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Our contestants square off when we cover these two great figures all about the power of impact. Bruce Lee shares his new ASMR meditation tape with us!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Heyby, why are all the lights off in the studio? Elliott,
don't walk in here if you're barefoot. I'm never barefoot.
I'm always in either my waking Oxford's or my sleeping Oxford's.
What's going on? Okay? Well? I recreated one of martial
arts master and film star Bruce Lee's most famous stunts
of kicking out a ceiling lamp, which is rad. But

(00:22):
I kicked out our ceiling lamp and it's a dark
in the studio and there's glass everywhere. Never fear for I,
Much like our other famous figure for today, American Red
Cross founder Clara Barton, am always prepared to help should
a disaster arise. I have an emergency head lamp with
me at all times. Really always prepared. Huh. Well what
if I break this table emergency tape okay? Or I

(00:45):
unplugged the recording equipment emergency generator, or I punch a
hole in the emergency magic high poster held up with
the emergency tape to cover the whole, or I, oh, hey,
it's a dolphin, Eric quick, Well, he's too distracted to
tear the studio apart. Please play the theme song here go?

(01:08):
What do you think you know about the room. The
game is on. Get some man a Jane. Buckle up
your brain because it's sign to play the Whos podcast?
Because it's stund to play Who Live from Tom Gland

(01:28):
or so called so called Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was?
The history quiz show that gives contestants the chance to
win lego brises and podcast. Laurie, I'm be your announcer,
who's got five months? And here's your host, the man
who is three kids in a trench coat posing as
an adult. It's Ellie Kylin. Thank you be everybody. Please

(01:50):
do not give away my secret. I'm trying to hide
the fact that I am three children in the trench coat.
And welcome everyone to the Who Was? Podcast. This show
is like Jeopardy, only with surprise, best silly games, and
bigger stunts. Our contestants were sent who Was books about
two great figures from history. Now they're here to show
off their knowledge and the hopes of winning fantastic prizes, prizes, prizes.

(02:13):
Today we're talking about Bruce Lee and Clara Barton, two
people who found themselves on opposite sides of a battle,
not with each other but in general. But before we
get to them. Let's get to know our contestants, all right.
First up, we have Ava, Ava. Please introduce yourself. I
am Ava and I am Ten. I enjoy um sketching

(02:39):
and I like to read a lot of books. And
my favorite TV show is definitely the Who Worship. That's
so excited to hear. What was your favorite episode of
the Who Was? TV? Show? I like the one about
Queen Elizabeth and Albert Einstein. Those are pretty funny. Oh nice, Well,
that is so exciting, Um that your favorite shows who Was? TV? Show?
And now here you are of Who Was? A podcast?

(03:01):
Speaking as one of the people who wrote Who Was? TV? Show?
You're right, it's a great show. Thank you very much
for watching it. That's right, all right, And up next
we have Natalie. Natalie please introduce yourself. Hi, Natalie, and
I intend and I enjoy sewing. Um, Natalie, are you
working on something right now? Is there a sewing project

(03:21):
you're working on? Yeah? Actually right now I'm in the
middle of like taking old drifted clothing and turning it
into something new. Oh my gosh, do you have like
an example of that? Like the thing that's coming from
my mind is like when people take a bunch of
ties and make them into a skirt. Where people take
pants and make them into smaller pants. Well, one of
my one of the things I've done is taking like

(03:44):
some oversized T shirts and taking clothing that I have
that I kind of like the shape up and putting
it on top of the fabric and sewing it together
to re create that except for the different sewing with
the different fabric. Comic. Oh cool, that's fantastic, so cool. Well,
thank you both so much for sharing. I had a
project like that once where I wanted to turn a
hat into a bathing suit and it didn't work. So

(04:07):
I admire that you seem to know a lot more
about sewing than I do. Thank you both of you,
Ava and Atlie Thinks so much for being with us today.
And thank you to Eric, our musician, for providing that
lovely Meet the Contestants music and all the music on
the show today today's episode. You guessed it. It's another
special matchup because Ava and Natalie have the same teacher.
Mr Bruno, that's right. It's a classmate battle to the end.

(04:33):
It's just a classmate battle to the end of the battle.
Mr Bruno, do you have any words of encouragement for
these two shining stars. They're great girls. I know that
they're going to do a great job today. They're really,
really fantastic kids. I love. Oh that's the great, very sweet.
So that's who is. Now let's find out who was
Clara Barton with four fast facts fast Clara Barton lived

(04:59):
from you one to Her nickname was the Angel of
the Battlefield after her field hospital work in the Civil War.
She was a teacher and an advocate for public school.
She brought the Red Cross to America. Has Now we
simply must get on to our first game. It's called
hashtag history. Hashtag history, hashtag history, hashtag hashtag. In this

(05:29):
multiple choice game, we will read to a comment and
a hashtag Clara Barton would have used during her life
if there was social media at the time. There wasn't, unfortunately,
but if there was, this is what she would have said,
and you will choose the best answer to tell us
what she was hash in about. And because this is
the first game, each question is worth one point. So
the first question is for Eva, I wanted to go viral,

(05:53):
but this is ridiculous hashtag smallpox, big problems. Is this
hashtag about a a young Clara helping the children in
her town through a smallpox outbreak. B Clara being told
the Red Cross was a virus to democracy. Or see
Clara's band compromised a petite women called smallpox, reaching number

(06:17):
one with their hit healing time. The best answer to
me would probably be A, that's right. The answer is
a young Clara, fresh off nursing for brother after a
bad fall, helped take care of the children of her
town during a smallpox outbreak. She was only about thirteen
at the time, but already showing signs of courage and ingenuity,
as she would display throughout her life. The next question

(06:39):
is for Natalie attention at school House One. Your arithmetic
is all wrong. Six hundred dollars divided by two fifty
dollars equals I quit hashtag square root of unfair hashtag
wage battle. Now was Clara talking of out a her

(07:01):
tuition fees for the college she went too being too high?
B Wage inequality at the schoolhouse she established. Or see
her father telling her battle stories from his military days.
I think the answer is B. You got it right.
The answer is being Clara created Schoolhouse one, a free
school in Boardentown, New Jersey. It was a huge success,

(07:21):
but the board hired a male principle and paid him
over twice what they offered Clara. She was so disheartened
she quit, but the incident didn't deter her from helping others. Okay,
the next question is for Eva, take it away, b
it's time to sway President Hayes, my way. Let's not
be neutral about helping people. Hashtag Swissmas, hashtag say yeah

(07:44):
to Geneva? Was she talking about a asking President Hayes
to legalize chocolate in America, be trying to get the
US to convert to the metric system, or c getting
the US to join the first Geneva Convention? That's right.
The answer is seeing. It took Clara over a decade

(08:04):
and three presidents in office until the United States finally
joined the Geneva Convention, a set of humanitarian rules that
tells countries that war how to treat captured soldiers and
enemy civilians, and pledged to establish the American Red Cross
for disaster relief. Good answer. The next question is for Natalie,
who can put a price on helping those in need?
Money doesn't make a difference. Clara Barton makes a difference.

(08:27):
Hashtag budget without boarders, hashtag fallen angel. Was Clara talking
about a her critics saying she mismanaged money at the
Red Cross b inflation during the Russian Famine of or
see the expensive gifts and jewelry heads of state gave her.
I think the best answer is probably a. You're right.

(08:48):
The answer is A. Clara was criticized for running the
Red Cross with an iron rule. It was accused of
stealing funds. Many people encouraged her to give up her position,
but she didn't resign until nineteen o four after a
Senate investigation found her come fleetely innocent. That wasn't the
end of Clara's career, but unfortunately it is the end
of this game. Hashtag hashtag thank you both. That was

(09:13):
a great round that you just played. Incredible. Okay, we're
going to have producer Jane tally up the scores and
then we'll reveal them to the world right after this
short break, Eric, can you play us some first aid
music please? What they're out overnight? Welcome back to the

(09:36):
Who Was Podcast, where today we're finding out who was
Clara Martin and who was Bruce Lee? And now back
to your host, Elliott Halin. Thank you be. We just
got through an exciting game of hashtag history between our
competitors Eva and Natalie. Producer Jane. Can you hashtag tell
us the scores? Sure, Ken Elliott, It's all tied up

(09:58):
at two fantastic. It's a real close game, the closest
a game can get. Everyone has the same score. Let's
keep the show going as we find out who was
Bruce Lee with four fast facts pas Born in San
Francisco in nineteen forty. He split his time between the
US and Hong Kong until his death in nine His

(10:21):
given name is Lee John Fan. Bruce Lee made martial
arts popular in the US. His fastest punches clocked in
at a hundred and eighteen miles brour. That's even faster
than these facts. Bruce Lee was also known as the
Dragon because he was born in the year of the
Dragon and also the time of the dragon between six

(10:42):
am and eight am. Oh, that's the time of my
dragon breath every morning. And I'm glad you don't show
up to work until afternoon most days, most days, most days.
But I think the Dragon is such a great nickname,
and I know I wish I want people to I
want people to call me that. I'm wondering for our intestines.
Have any cool nicknames? Natalie? Do you have a nickname

(11:03):
that anyone calls you? No, not really. I mean sometimes
my friends will call me Nat, but that's not really cool.
I think it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Yeah, and okay,
Av Then what do you have a nickname? Yes? Oh,
here we go. You know it's gonna be good when
they start laughing before before an answer. Well, I was baby,

(11:24):
I was called chunky monkey, and then now I'm just monkey.
Why all right? Those are both amazing nicknames. Elliott, did
you ever have a nickname? The closest I ever had
to a nickname was when I would correct people and
how to spell my first name, which is spelled with
two teas, so people would call me two teas, which

(11:45):
is not an amazing nickname. It's just a spelling I
did well more than it's more than I should, but
it's because of my diet. And what about you, be,
I mean, what what you must have an amazing nickname? Yes,
some people call me B, which is well, you know,
B is a nickname for Beatrice. So I'm just always

(12:07):
out here with my nicknames. I thought you were saying
that BE the letter was what people called you as
a nickname for be the name. Yes, it's shorter, but
still the sounds the same. That's true. And I can
tell the difference. I know when someone is calling me B, B,
E A or B just the letter B, or if
they're really if they're really throwing everybody for a lope
and call me like the insect B. Yeah, b E.

(12:29):
Oh wow, that's there's a lot of meanings to that
that word slash letter. Okay, enough about nicknames. I contain
multitude ease, yeah, multitudes. Okay, enough about nicknames, enough about tuting.
Let's get on and know more about Bruce. Let's get
to know more about Bruce Lee in this next game
lists of fury. So this is gonna be a timed

(12:52):
game for this time game, b will run through a
list of statements about Bruce Lee. If the statements are true,
you will say Cato, which is the name of Bruce
his character from the Green Hornet TV show. If they're false,
you'll say no way, like Bruce Lee is fighting technique
the way of no Way. And if you don't know
the answer, say pass like if you were Bruce Lee
and you wanted to catch up, but it was on
the other end of the table, and you'd say, please

(13:14):
pass me the catchup. That's how Bruce Lee would say that.
So if it's true, say kato. If it's not true,
saying no way, and if it's you don't know, say pass.
We're gonna see how many answers you can get in
thirty seconds. And because this is the second game, each
question is worth two points, So producer Jane is going
to keep score and Elliott will time you. Elliott tell

(13:36):
us when you are ready, okay, and begin. Bruce's other
nickname was never sits still Pakato. Bruce's dad's name was
Big Bruce Pass. Bruce was the Cha Chaw champion of
Hong Kong Kato. Bruce's first movie role came when he
was just a baby. Pass. Bruce Lee is the brother

(13:59):
of directors Bikely No way, Okay, and that's thirty seconds.
All right, excellent job, all right, Elliott, tell us window
and let us begin. Bruce Lee invented the sport of
train surfing. Past his famous one inch punch knocked a
man back sixt Kato. Bruce could do push ups with

(14:23):
his nose past he was allergic to shirts. No way,
great job both of you. Excellent work both of you.
Those were some fast lists and you listed very fastly,
and you remember just what you were supposed to say
for true or false, which I know I would have forgotten. There,
that was it. Let's high kick jump over to Jane

(14:49):
producer Jane with the scores Madealie is in the lead
with eight while Eva has six. Okay, this is so exciting.
This game is so incredible. I can hardly contain myself.
You see him pretty on edge. I'm fine, Okay, you

(15:09):
know what, I might need to take some deep breaths
and center myself. Do you mind if I put in
a meditation tape? Could you do it later? We have
a showed a great so much for understanding. Hello. It
is me film star, martial arts champion Total Cuilty and
lifelong meditator Bruce Lee. I'm using a s m R,

(15:35):
that thing where your scalp goes all tingly from listening
to sounds. Personally, I don't get it, but yucking, someone's young.
It's not very zen. Anyway, In this meditation, I will
use a s m R to deepen your relaxation so
you can achieve the highest levels of enlightenment. Maybe then

(15:57):
you will come up with profound thoughts like in the
middle of chaos lies opportunity or real living is living
for others. Or my name is Bruce Lee. Wow, who
came up with those super deep thoughts? Oh yeah, it

(16:21):
was me, Bruce Lee. I did. But enough of my
letter musings. Let's get to meditating. Get in a comfortable position,
totally relaxed, with no distractions. Take a deep breath and

(16:42):
listen closely. You are in an ice factory like in
my film The Big Boss. A whole bunch of bad
guys approach and let the sound of the one inch
punch wash show over you. Total relaxation. Now, picture yourself

(17:09):
in the hall of mirrors like in that movie. Enter
the dragon that I was in, see your own image
reflected back at you, and smash it. Mirrors are only
useful when they are broken. This is a pure one

(17:30):
hondo p maximum chill, inspired by my mantra of be
like water. Here are some water sounds. Think of the
way water flows down from the sky or over rocks,
or into the big glass of water I drank before

(17:53):
I started recording this. Actually, have some coffee too. We
choose also made of water. Oh boy, that's a lot
of water that I drank and water is super watery. Right,
it's like mostly water. It looks like I'm going to

(18:16):
have to cut this shot to enter the bathroom. Okay,
I'm back, I'm centered, and I'm ready to get to
our last game. I am too. But before we do that,
we have to take a break. We'll be right back
very soon. Eric, play us some chat chat Champion music.

(18:36):
Please one to chat Champion Sally. Who was Marie Curie?
You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel prizes or
paps from my episode of the Who Warst Podcast where

(18:57):
I played myself. I wanted to take a moment to
read one of my favorite reviews about the Who Was Podcast.
This is from Shake and Bay and it reads loved
this Me and my little sister love this show more. Please.
Our faith is Arietman. If you want to hear your

(19:17):
review read on the air, make sure to subscribe, like
and review to the oas podcasts in the I heard
Radio up or wherever you give your podcasts revoir or
should I stay ABIENO. Welcome back to the Who Was Podcast.

(19:38):
Today we're discussing who was Clara Barton and who was
Bruce Lee When we last left up, Eva had six
points and Natalie had eight points. And now back to
your host, Elliott Caitlin, thank you be and with not
a moment to lose, let's get right into our next
and final game, Converge of Greatness. In this multiple choice game,

(20:08):
we'll explore how our famous people connect, overlap or converge,
choose the best answer for each question be asked. And
because this is our third game, each question is worth
three points, so this is still anyone's game. Ava Europe. First,
Clara Barton took many things away from her visits to Switzerland,
and Bruce took away the number one box office slot

(20:31):
in Asia with his first film, The Big Boss. From
this movie which ends in Switzerland. What was the name
of that movie? Was it A Ingmar Bergman's Wild Strawberries,
B Swiss Army Man or see the Sound of Music.
I think it's B. I'm so sorry. The answer is

(20:52):
ce The Big Boss shattered box office records and the
Sound of Music, which up until then was the number
one film in Asia, had to say so long, farewell
all vet us in goodbye to the top slot. Okay,
Our next question goes to Natalie. Both Bruce Lee and
Clara Barton challenged the roles society built for them. Bruce
refused to take any part that showed Asian Americans in

(21:14):
demeaning roles, and Clara challenged this belief in her time.
Was it A that women shouldn't be on the battlefield?
B that working at the patent office was boring? Or
see that only married women could ride horses? A, that's right.
The answer is A. Many military leaders refused to let

(21:37):
Clara and other women work as nurses on the battlefield,
and nursing at the time was traditionally seen as a
man's job until Clara's work helped to change that mistaken belief.
Okay Eva, this next question is for you taken away
b Both Clara and Bruce were authors. While Bruce's books
included fun titles like Striking Thoughts and Bruce Lee Artist

(21:57):
of Life, one of Clara's book titles was less exciting
but still very impactful. Was the name of that book?
A fifty one Practical uses for Gauze b Patent Pending
The Life and Times of a Lady Patent Clerk or
see the Red Cross of the Geneva Convention. What it is? Oh?

(22:19):
Probably see? That's right. The answer is seeing. While the
title feels like kind of a first draft, this book
helped convince the public that neutral relief aid and bringing
the Red Cross to America was a good idea. Although
I like to think you can jazz up the title
a little bit by saying it this way, The Red
Cross of the Geneva Convention. What it is? Okay? The
next question goes to Natalie. Clara and Bruce went through

(22:41):
big personality changes in their lives. Clara was so shy
her mother consulted doctors for a cure. And you may
be surprised to learn this about a young Bruce Lee.
Was it A he ran the street gang named the Tigers,
b he suffered from polio and was often bedridden. Or
see he was total enemies with his bully in class,

(23:02):
Kareem abdul Jabbar. A. That's right. The answer is a.
As a youngster, Bruce was caught up with the wrong
crowd and his family sent him back to the United
States as a teenager to keep him out of trouble.
And Kareem abdul Jabar and Blues weren't in the same
class as kids, but they were in the same class
of people because they're both amazing athletes and actors and
they were real life friends. Look, we love you, we

(23:25):
think you're great. Come on the show and that's the
end of the gay Oh that was fantastic. And while
we wait for Jane to tell you the final points
and wait for Kareem Abdul Jabbar too, I guess right
in and tell us that he'd love to be on
the show. I'd love to hear from our contestants. Uh,

(23:45):
what is something that you were surprised to learn about
Bruce Lee or Clara Barton? Natalie? Was there something that
kind of surprised you or jumped out at you that
that you found really memorable about either one of our figures. Well,
I thought, it's kind of surprising how Clara Parton would
be able to teach yourself how to take care of
somebody and help get them back to good health in
just two years when college takes four years in order

(24:07):
to learn that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, she she's really
a self taught nurse back in the back in the day. Yeah,
it's really amazing. How if you put your mind to
learning something, you can learn it fast if you're excited
about learning, or if you just worked really hard. And
I think she worked super super hard to learn everything
that she knew. Eva. Is there anything about Bruce Lee
or Clara Barton that really jumped out at you? And

(24:28):
I don't mean like Bruce Lee would jump out of you. Yeah,
because he would jump out and go, but you know
information that jumped out of you. Um, I'm glad of that.
It was also really cool that Bruce Lee started off
as a kid and you like gott and then when
he grew older, he became a lot I know, I wish,

(24:49):
I wish everybody like listening at home right now could
see what you're doing, because I know exactly what you mean,
but it's more of a visual thing. That he just
became like very focused and was able to use his
talent to like build a career for himself. It shows
you that there's sometimes there's something that you're excited about
doing as a kid, we're really good at doing as
a kid, that you can make what you do for
your whole life. And Bruce Lee was able to do it,

(25:11):
and a lot of people are able to do it
if you focus on it. Yeah, you have the discipline
and you work hard, and if you listen to your
teachers like Mr Bruno, unless you're like Clara Barton and
you don't need a teacher like Mr Bruno. Mr Bruno,
what about you? Do you think it's better for kids
to listen to their teachers. I didn't hear that. That's
the second time Mr Bruno has pleaded the fifth in

(25:34):
his recordings with the Yeah, there's a lot. There's a
lot that Mr Bruno's being very tactful about, which I
really appreciate, which which makes him a great teacher. Yeah,
thank you so much, everybody. Now we're here, it's the
big moment. Jane, will you please announce our winner? I
sure will. We have a winner of Natalie with fourteen points. Amazing.

(25:57):
Congratulations Natalie, Ava, you played a fan plastic game. Natalie,
you as the winner, have ten seconds now to give
your shout outs. Who would you like to thank for
your success today? Myself? Only yourself and nobody else. Love
it to two seconds of shoutouts, eight seconds to bask

(26:17):
in that glory. She did it right. That's the way
to do it. Our winner and their library of choice,
where we're receiving a selection of Who Was Books And
I'm going to give a shout out to myself, I guess,
but also to intern z Act, Jane, Eric Kinnie, Woody
Food for being our Bruce Lee and to be of course,
and a big thank you to both of our contestants,
Eva Natalie, you played a great game. Thank you so

(26:38):
much for being with us, and thank you at home
or wherever you are for listening to this. That's right,
I'm talking to you the listener. Next week, please come
back and listen to us again. We're gonna find out
about two more fantastic figures from history. Until then, this
is Elliott Angel of the Battlefield Caleb saying we are history. Goodbye.
Everybody got a question for any of our famous figures,

(26:59):
send us a voice emo at the who Was Podcast
at gmail dot com. It might just end up on
the show. Who Was Podcast is produced by Radio Point,
I Heart Media and Penguin Workshop, based on the best
selling who h Q series published by Penguin. This show
was hosted by Elliott Calin with co host Megan O'Neill
as b It also starred Jane Baker as Producer, Jane,

(27:20):
Eric Shackney as Eric, and Woody Foo as Bruce Lee.
The executive producers are Richard Corson, Alex Bach, Elliott Caylin,
Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. Executive producer for
Penguin Workshop is Francesco Sadita and executive producer for I
Heart Media is Lindsay Hoffman. This show was written by
Megan O'Neill, Elliott Kaylan, Kennice Mobley, and Jane Baker, and

(27:41):
it was produced by Bernie Kaminski. Our talent producer is
Jane Baker. The theme song and the music were composed
and performed by Eric Shackney. Our show was edited and
mixed by Breematan, recorded by Joanna Samuels. Special thanks to
Zach Timpson, Charlotte DeAnda, Daniel Goodman, and Michael Lewis Howard.
The HUAS podcast was recorded at the Ipart Studios in

(28:03):
Los Angeles, California. Sound services provided by a Great City
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