August 10, 2022 • 27 mins
Our multi-talented contestants keep us on our toes as we learn more about these two renaissance men! Bea imagines what painting the Mona Lisa may have been like!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ah, hello, Elliott, please come in, Come in, hi, Bee.
What's under that sheet over there? Is it an easel? Elliott?
I have been inspired by one of our topics for
today's show, Leonardo da Vinci. I'm exploring my artistic side,
and under that sheet, as you call it, is my masterpiece,
and I am ready to unveil it. Oh that's so exciting.
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I can't wait to see it. Wait, no longer, is
that me? It certainly is. You are a wonderful subject
for a painter. Did you know that about yourself? It's
really great. Thank you, honored. Though I can't help but
notice you took some artistic license. Of course, I am,
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after all, an artiste. I put you on this canvas
as I see you, I take it. That's why I
have a clown nose and an eye patch. It reminds
me of how often our other historical figure today, President
Theodore Roosevelt, was a frequent subject of political cartoon caricatures.
You are one pcent, correct, I charge you for it?
But I know great art is priceless. Yeah, well there
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is that. Yeah, that's why I'm not offering to buy it. Eric,
please play the theme song. What do you think you
know about the grates From this the game is on.
Get some energy and buckle up your brain because it's
time to play podcast. Because it's time to play who
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Live from Top of the Land or so called so
Cow Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was, the history quiz
show that gives contestants the chance to win mega prizes
and podcast glory. I'm b your announcer and co pilot,
and here's your host, the man who puts the stance
in Renaissance, Kellie Klin. Thank you be and welcome everyone
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to the Who Was Podcast. This show it's like Jeopardy,
only with surprise guests, silly games, and a sun Day
bar with free topics, even gummy bears, especially gummy bears.
Be right back. Our contestants were sent Who Was books
about two great figures from history. Now they're here to
show off their knowledge and the hope of winning fantastic prizes, prizes, prizes.
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Oh sorry, ice cream Headache and gummy bear Tommy. Today
we're learning about two Renaissance men, Theodore Roosevelt and Leonardo
da Vinci. But before we meet them, let's meet our contestants.
First up, we've got Baltasar. Baltasar please introduce yourself. Hi,
my name's Buffasar, and I got a scene. You've got
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a dog this year. That's so exciting. Have you been
wanting a dog for a long time? Yeah? I have
what kind of john? Is it? Half Candle ri King?
Carol's half Pijan Coudo? And so did you take the
each of those dogs and you took half of each
and then put them together to make one dog? Faltazar
shaking his head. Yes, that's definitely how did that? And
I've got to note what's so that I can write
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the dog a letter? What's this dog's name? Names? Charla
made namesake? What a namesake to live up to? Now?
Does he do anything like you know, like a like
a ruler that's gonna take over a lot of lands?
Is he living up to his name like that? No? Okay?
Does he do any tricks? No? No? Is that chewing
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on my finger? Yes, that's a trick. That's a trick.
Thanks so much for joining us today. Thank you about
Tassar all right, and also with this today we have Mira. Mira.
Please introduce yourself. Hi. I have Mira. I love to
travel and I read in the middle. Then I what
is your attack on reading in the middle of the night.
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Do you do a flashlight under the covers? Do you
have a booklight that you clipped to the book, do
you the headlamp? Or can you see in the dark?
See in the dark? Kind of all of I used
to have a nightlight and I lost a man and
then now I just used my alarm clock nightlay. Okay,
what are you currently reading? I like reading graphic novels,
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for graphic novels with like cliffhangers. I like adventure books, comedy.
I read a lot of books. Thank you to you
both just for being here today. We're excited to have you.
And thank you to Eric, our musician, for all the
music you'll be hearing in this episode today. So that's
who is Balthazari Mira. Now let's find out who was
Theodore Roosevelt with four fast facts. Theodore Roosevelt was born
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in eighteen fifty eight and died in nineteen nineteen. As
President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt champions fairness for
citizens and fought to break up big railroad monopolies. Theodore
Roosevelt wrote over thirty five books, was a champion boxer, expert, taxidermist,
a hunter, a naval officer, and a family man. We
call him a renaissance man because he's good at a
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lot of stuff, and the Teddy Bear was named after him.
You know, if I were to have a stuffed animal
named after me, I'd wanted to be the Mighty t Rex,
so people would call it the b Rex. That and
I have very short arms, like disturbingly short parts. Yeah,
I've always thought you were kind of like a t
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rex that way. It's really cool. If I were to
have a stuffed animal named after me, I'd wanted to
be a wolf, and then you could call it Elliott Wolf.
Sounds pretty cool, right, well, I don't know. It kind
of sounds like someone who does your taxes, like a
but like a cool guy who does your taxes, right cool? Yeah,
like a cool accountant account cool. How about you, Mirra,
what kind of stuffed animal would you want named after you?
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Maybe I would want like a panda or something. Okay,
the mirror Panda. I like it because it kind of
rhymes a little bit, and that'll start. What about you?
What kind of animal would you want named after you?
I want a fly? Ohkay? Interesting? Why a fly? That's
an interesting choice. Panda's they're cute. Well that we all understand,
they're cute. Everybody loves bamboo. Yeah, and yeah, because bamboo
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is delicious, delicious. Why a fly? That's an interesting choice
because I can kill them. Mhmm, interesting. Interesting. There's a
lot going on there psychologically about the sorrow. I don't
know if you have the time to dig into it
all the way. But those those stuffed animals are great. Yeah,
those are great choices, and I think in the stores
soon we're going to see them, the mirror panda and
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the bolts our fly. But now let's get to our
first game. True or false? Truer? False? Is a fuse?
Is a false? Or is a true? Is a truth
that it is false? That it was true? Or true? True?
Poor fault. In this game, be will read a statement
about Theodore Roosevelt and you'll tell us if it's true
or false. You guessed it, And since it's our first game,
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each question is worth one point, Balthazar, your first poter
Roosevelt was the first American to win the Nobel Peace Prize. True,
that's right, it's true. The Nobel Peace Prize and honors
individuals or groups that work hard to promote peace in
the world, and in nineteen o six, Roosevelt won the
award for helping end the Russo Japanese War, a big
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war between Russia and Japan. Other US presidents have also
won the Nobel Prize, Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter, and Barack Obama. Okay, Mira,
the next question is for you, Mira. True or false.
One of Theodore's well known features were his very small teeth. False.
That's right, it's false. He actually had huge teeth. He
was known for having enormous elephantine and teeth. In fact,
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it's something that cartoonists latched onto. They draw his teeth
even bigger than they were in real life, and in
real life they were already very big. A newspaper once
called him teeth a door which doesn't really roll off
the tongue. But maybe it's funny in print if you
look at it, maybe it's a funny name. Okay, Balthasar,
back to you. True or false. As a politician, Theodore
believed that he had to fight crookedness, whether it was
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great or small. False. I'm sorry, that's true. Theodore was
known as a reform someone who wants to change government
and society to help as many people as possible and
to keep it honest so it's not crooked. One thing
he supported was better working conditions. He believed people should
be safe at their jobs, which sounds like a good idea.
Maybe unless your job is like shark feeder. There's a
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little bit of danger that goes into that. It's gonna
only be so safe, Nera, you get the last question
of the round. Because Theodore was a city kid growing up,
he signed orders and legislation to make the rest of
the US look like his hometown, Manhattan. He poured concrete
and erected skyscrapers all across the US. That's false, you're right,
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that's false. From his youth, Theodore loved the outdoors. Even
though he was a city kid, he often traveled to
the vast open spaces of the West. Theodore Roosevelt believed
in conservation. That's preserving the country's natural resources. And as president,
he will preserve a hundred and fifty national forests. And
that's the end of true or false? True, true, true,
true orful. What a great first round, everybody. Now, before
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we go to a break, we're going to go to
producer Jane with our first round scores. Hey, Elliot and Beer,
don't mind telling you the Panda has out done the
fly this time. Mirror has two points about Bazzar one point.
It's very close. It's still anybody's game, Panda or Fly.
And we'll be back with our next game after this
short break. Eric, please play us some big Teeth music.
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That's a lot of wisdom. Welcome back to the Who
Was Podcast. Today we're learning who was Leonardo da Vinci
and who was D. R. Roosevelt. Now back to your host,
Elliot Klin. Thanks be. Before we get to the next game,
let's find out a little bit about who this next
game is about Leonardo da Vinci with four fast facts prospects.
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Leonardo da Vinci was born in fourteen fifty two and
died in fifteen nineteen at twelve years old. Da Vinci
was apprenticed to a famous Italian artist, Andrea del Varoccio.
Experts are certain of only thirteen paintings that Da Vinci painted,
and three of them are unfinished. In addition to painting,
da Vinci was also an engineer and inventor, an athlete,
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and a musician. Talk about a Renaissance man only in
this case instead of theoter Roosevelt. It was actually during
the Renaissance. Alright, Mira and Valsazar. I'm wondering. Da Vinci
was such an amazing artist. Do you have any artists
that you really love? My friend Aria draws really well,
that's really cool. You know what kind of stuff did
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she draw? She draws like mythical cats. Oh, mythical cats.
I love. What makes them mythical? Because regular cats are
already a little magical. What makes these ones? They have
like wings and like chomp tails. They have like corns
and things, wait, chomp tails, so they have uh, like
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a chomp like a venus fly trap mouth on their
tail kind of. She would drawn like pictures like us
one of them. I would have like the bigger one,
and she would have the smaller one. But it's sharper.
Oh wow, okay, that's it's like it. Do you want
it to be big or is it small and sharp?
You know? It's like these available online? She does? She
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even Etsy? Does she even Etsy shop? Yeah? Where do
I buy a T shirt with a with a with
a math mythical cat with WANs and a chop tail
on it? That'd be an amazing shirt. Yeah, belts are.
What about you? My friend Jake makes messy pictures. Messy pictures.
What makes them so messy? He just screwt w zone,
stabs his pencil into the paper and then just like
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he draws a picture. Sounds like an impressionist or an expressionist,
some kind of oppressionist. This is something impressionist start very impressing.
All right, well, thank you both so much for sharing
about your friends who are artists. That's so cool. And
you know, Elliott Leonardo da Vinci was really so well rounded,
yet most people probably only know him as a painter.
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That's true, being I figure it's because he painted the
Mona Lisa, the most famous painting in the world. You
ever wonder what it was like when he was painting her,
because here's how I think it probably went. Coming. Hello,
can I help you? Hi? Yeah, I'm looking for someone
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named Leonardo da Vinci, Davin, that's me. You must have
been Elsa Giordini. But call me Mona Lisa. It's a nickname.
I'm hoping it's going to catch on. Trust me. After
I paint your portrait, everyone will know the name Mona Lisa.
Whoa WHOA? Slow down here? Who do you think you
are Michael Angelo. Everybody always brings that guy. Okayna, come
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in here and have a seat. I want to try
a few different things to one up an I just
supposed to smile, maybe eventually, but it feels a weird
to me to tell the women to smile. Let's try
something on the opposite interest. Give me betray look at
your best friend, story your doggie? Why why would do
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is a Belleluciano take my dog? Because if she was jealous?
Now show me that the disbelief a fire in your eyes? Yes, amazing,
your expressions are benefico. Now fear tell me Mona Lisa,
what are you most scared of? Parrots? Always up to something.
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You never know what they're gonna say. Yes, now show
me your face of a parrot. Fluid it right now?
Perfect though. Now let's move to joy. Maybe you imagine
you're at the beautiful peach with the sun on your
skin now giving me a laugh like you're frolicking in
the waves. Ha ha ha ha, Yes, a perfect, that's
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the smile I want, And that's the smile I'm going
to paint. Don't move a muss for like three days
while I get this down. This is the Mona Lisa smile.
That's gonna make me famous and be the title of
a movie. It's probably Julius Style's best performance on the film.
What are you talking about? It's not to me, it's
Be's mind. It's coming up with this ridiculous outtake. Be.
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I think it's time to go back to the show now.
And they lived happily ever after. Wow, great dream sequence,
don't you think, Elliott B. I've told you I can't
see what you see when you're daydreaming. But let's keep
the momentum going with our next game. Hashtag history, hashtag history,
hashtag history, hashtag history, hashtag history. Okay, okay, contestants in
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this game, B will read away hashtag Leonardo da Vinci
might have used on his social media if they had
that back then when he was alive, And you will
tell us what it's about. And since this is our
second game, each question is worth two points. Go for it.
Be alright, This first question is for you. The first
hashtag is hashtag brush with Greatness? Would Leonardo use this
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hashtag because A As a part of his first job,
he had to make paint brushes for an artist or
be Leonardo loved to brush his hair daily. A. That's right,
The answer is A. Leonardo was an artist's apprentice, which
is basically a student who learns a trade and does
the more basic chores that the artist he studies under
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doesn't want to do so that they can focus on creating.
There were no art supply stores back then, so apprentices
learned how to make both paint brushes and paint and
for the brushes they used animal hair, such as those
from hogs and squirrels. So to get that hair, I
guess Leonardo was also a squirrel barber. What a renaissance man.
Leo's next hashtag is for you, Baldassar. The second hashtag
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is hashtag supper time. Would Leonardo use this hashtag because A.
Leonardo had his own food network show called Diners, Drive
Bins and Da Vinci's Or be Leonardo created a famous
painting called The Last Supper B That's right, The answer
is be. Leonardo painted one of his most famous paintings,
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one of the most famous paintings in history. The Last
Supper is a huge mural of Jesus and his last
dinner with his followers. Leonardo worked very hard on the painting,
doing many sketches of it, and once he started painting,
he paint from sunrise sunset without even stopping to eat
or drink. Kids, don't do that at home. Feel free
to stop painting to you need to drink things, you
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need to do it. Don't be a Leonardo sometimes nero
Europe again. The next hashtag is hashtag sketchy with. Leonardo
used his hashtag because A he always kept a notebook
and was sketching in it or be. One of his
many inventions was Saturday Night Live, the Sketch Show. That's right.
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The answer is a Mionardo tout many, many notebooks because
he couldn't stop killing them A With ideas and drawings.
He filled his notebooks for thirty years, to the point
that there were about thirteen thousand pages. That's right, thirteen
thousand pages. Today, only six thousand pages are known to exist,
and they are considered priceless. Okay, Baltasar. This final hashtag
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is yours. The final hashtag is hashtag bird brain with.
Leonardo used this hashtag because A he studied birds and
their ability to fly or be he had a parent
who loved making fun of him. Oh, that's right. The
answer is a Leonardo was sure that one day people
would fly, even designed a flying machine that was kind
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of like a helicopter. He would buy birds and cages
and set them free in an attempt to understand how
they flew and how they flapped their wings and they
landed safely. Now, of course we know that he was right,
people would fly, but the airplane wouldn't be invented until
nineteen oh three hundreds of years later. But the right
brothers who are also you know who Was? Podcast? Episode?
Maybe go check out that episode after this one. Leonardo
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was a visionary, and vision areas aren't always appreciated in
their time, don't I know it? And that's hashtag history,
hashtag history, hashtag great round everybody, This has been so
much fun. We're going to take a short break while
Jane talies up the scores. Eric Lease play us some
flying machine music. Get to the chapter, Sally, who was there?
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Marie Curie? You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel Prizes,
or perhaps from my episode of the Who Was Podcast
where I played myself. I wanted to take a moment
to read one of my favorite reviews about the Who Was? Podcast.
This is from Shaken Bay and it reads loved this
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Me and my little sister love this show more. Please,
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and review to the UA's podcasts in the I Had
to Ride You Up, or wherever you get your podcasts. Revoir,
Oh sho, last day, Abio, Welcome back to the Lula's podcast.
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Today we're learning who was Leonardo da Vinci and who
was R. Roosevelt? And now back to your host Elliott Haylin.
Thanks be and now without further Ado, let's go take
our flying machines that are kind of like helicopters. To
producer Jane for the scores. Oh, Elliott and B. It's
still a very close game, but the panda has gone
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ahead with six points in the fly file mirror six Alfazar,
Oh thank you. Wow. What a closely, very close game.
That fly is is right behind that panda. And who
knows how things will turn out with our last game,
because there's one game left to go and it's called
Converge of Greatness. In this multiple choice game, B will
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read questions about where our two historical figures overlap or converge.
And because this is our third game. Each question is
worth three points. Picked the best option as your answer
at Faltazzar. This first question is for you. Be you
know what to do. Both Roosevelt and da Vinci were
involved in wars in their lifetimes. But while da Vinci
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did not believe in war, he did a design propaganda
posters for it or be design uniforms for the soldiers
or see design weapons for it. See that's right. The
answer is seed. Vince referred to war as a disease. However,
the Duke he was working for, cesare Borgia, asked him
to design weapons for his troops. Despite his feelings about war,
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DaVinci did enjoy designing new and better war machinery. One
of his designs was a giant crossboat I could shoot
several arrows at once and would have taken several soldiers
to operate. Because even though Leonardo didn't like war, he
did like teamwork. Mira. This next one's for you. Both
da Vinci and Roosevelt were interested in the workings of
the human body. Da Vinci spent a lot of time
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studying the body, while Roosevelt was a huge advocate of
physical fitness because a he thought he would grow up
to be a doctor. B he was very frail as
a child, or see he didn't pass the presidential physical
fitness test ironic as a A. The answer is B.
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Roosevelt was so frail as a child that he had
to stay inside into his very severe asthma. As he
got older, he worked hard to develop more strength and
become more athletic, leading to Roosevelt becoming the hearty outdoorsman
we know him as today. Balthazar, back to you. Both
Roosevelt and da Vinci were passionate about nature. As a boy,
da Vinci became fascinated with a specific element of nature.
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Which element was it? Was it a water, be earth
or sea? Air? That's right, The answer is A. When
da Vinci was four years old, a hurricane hit the countryside,
and when he was ten, the Arno River flooded Florence.
Leonardo never forgot the flood, and all his life he
drew pictures of moving water. Leonardo was fascinated by water
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because it was a source of life and a source
of destruction. Like me, kind of ignoritor, Mira. Here's the
final question. Both da Vinci and Roosevelt were incredibly multitalented.
In fact, they had so many skills, it's easier to
list things they didn't do. Which of the following is
something Teddy Roosevelt did not do? Was it A learned
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to speak multiple languages. B became an expert sailor. Or
C invented a new pasta shape. Which one did he
not do? See, that's right, the answer is C. Sadly,
Teddy never made a new pasta shape, but he did
sail down Egypt's Nile River, where he discovered his love
of hunting. Roosevelt also learned languages on his family's travels
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to Europe. He began learning German, and later he learned
Latin and Greek and French. Look, I myself have learned Elvish,
so I'm no slouch either. If I ever meet an elf,
I don't know exactly what to say. And that's the
end of Converge of Greatness. And that sound means right
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at the end of the game. And that's the end
of the show. Will we wait for Producer James tell
you the points I'd love to hear from the contestants
in Europe. What's your favorite thing that you learned about
either Theodore Roosevelt or Leonardo da Vinci. I learned that
Leonardo da Vinci didn't only paint the Mona Lisa. He
painted um the girl with ermine, and he painted the
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other one. I thought the only lady he painted was
the Mona Lisa. Yeah, he painted a number of portraits
of women. It was you know, painters, they like to
paint pictures of all sorts of things that they find,
and certainly ladies or something that you find when you
just go walking around. Ladies are all over the place.
Why not paint pictures of them? Right Leonardo? Okay, Balthazar,
what about you? What's something that was your favorite thing
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that you learned about, either Theodore Roosevelt or Leonardo da Vinci.
I like Da Vinci that he tainted so many paintings
and was ahead of his time. I saw one take
games in Washington, d c. Yeah. His his paintings are
so beautiful, aren't they? And do you remember what the
painting was that you saw in Washington? I fret it was.
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It really amazing to think about, Oh, this person I'm
reading about. I saw one of their paintings. Hundreds of
years after they painted it. That painting is still there
and people can still look at it. And it's almost
like they're talking to the artist a little bit by
looking at his work. Thank you to both of you
for sharing your thoughts on those amazing things about Leonard DaVinci.
And now it's time for the big moment. Jane, please
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announced our winner, Elliott and b It's incredible, but the
fly caught up of the panda and ran ahead with
the game. Baltazar one with eleven points Mirror nine. Fantastic.
Still such a close game, Mira, you should be so
proud we were a fantastic panda player and Baltazar, congratulations
on your fly win. Balthazar is our winner today. You
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have ten seconds for shoutouts. Who would you like to
thank for your victory today? I would like to thank
my mom for signing me up for this show and
my family for helping me with the nice Oh and
we get a cameo from Charlomagne that was yet for
those listening at home. Charlemagne just showed up and is
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just as rebal and also cute as was broughtest earlier. Well. Congratulations,
congratulations Mirror for playing a great game. Our winner and
their library of choice were receiving a selection of who
was books and I'm going to give my own shout
out to intern Zach, Jane, Eric, Adam for text Her
for being our Leonardo da Vinci, and Jane Baker for
being our Mona Lisa, and to be of course, and
a big thank you to both of our contestants who
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played an amaze in game. And a bigger even thank
you to you wherever you are for listening. Until next time.
This is Elliott Big Teeth Calin saying we are history.
Good Bye. Everybody got a question for any of our
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Ah, hello, Elliott, please come in, Come in, hi, Bee.
What's under that sheet over there? Is it an easel? Elliott?
I have been inspired by one of our topics for
today's show, Leonardo da Vinci. I'm exploring my artistic side,
and under that sheet, as you call it, is my masterpiece,
and I am ready to unveil it. Oh that's so exciting.
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I can't wait to see it. Wait, no longer, is
that me? It certainly is. You are a wonderful subject
for a painter. Did you know that about yourself? It's
really great. Thank you, honored. Though I can't help but
notice you took some artistic license. Of course, I am,
(00:42):
after all, an artiste. I put you on this canvas
as I see you, I take it. That's why I
have a clown nose and an eye patch. It reminds
me of how often our other historical figure today, President
Theodore Roosevelt, was a frequent subject of political cartoon caricatures.
You are one pcent, correct, I charge you for it?
But I know great art is priceless. Yeah, well there
(01:05):
is that. Yeah, that's why I'm not offering to buy it. Eric,
please play the theme song. What do you think you
know about the grates From this the game is on.
Get some energy and buckle up your brain because it's
time to play podcast. Because it's time to play who
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Live from Top of the Land or so called so
Cow Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was, the history quiz
show that gives contestants the chance to win mega prizes
and podcast glory. I'm b your announcer and co pilot,
and here's your host, the man who puts the stance
in Renaissance, Kellie Klin. Thank you be and welcome everyone
(01:53):
to the Who Was Podcast. This show it's like Jeopardy,
only with surprise guests, silly games, and a sun Day
bar with free topics, even gummy bears, especially gummy bears.
Be right back. Our contestants were sent Who Was books
about two great figures from history. Now they're here to
show off their knowledge and the hope of winning fantastic prizes, prizes, prizes.
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Oh sorry, ice cream Headache and gummy bear Tommy. Today
we're learning about two Renaissance men, Theodore Roosevelt and Leonardo
da Vinci. But before we meet them, let's meet our contestants.
First up, we've got Baltasar. Baltasar please introduce yourself. Hi,
my name's Buffasar, and I got a scene. You've got
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a dog this year. That's so exciting. Have you been
wanting a dog for a long time? Yeah? I have
what kind of john? Is it? Half Candle ri King?
Carol's half Pijan Coudo? And so did you take the
each of those dogs and you took half of each
and then put them together to make one dog? Faltazar
shaking his head. Yes, that's definitely how did that? And
I've got to note what's so that I can write
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the dog a letter? What's this dog's name? Names? Charla
made namesake? What a namesake to live up to? Now?
Does he do anything like you know, like a like
a ruler that's gonna take over a lot of lands?
Is he living up to his name like that? No? Okay?
Does he do any tricks? No? No? Is that chewing
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on my finger? Yes, that's a trick. That's a trick.
Thanks so much for joining us today. Thank you about
Tassar all right, and also with this today we have Mira. Mira.
Please introduce yourself. Hi. I have Mira. I love to
travel and I read in the middle. Then I what
is your attack on reading in the middle of the night.
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Do you do a flashlight under the covers? Do you
have a booklight that you clipped to the book, do
you the headlamp? Or can you see in the dark?
See in the dark? Kind of all of I used
to have a nightlight and I lost a man and
then now I just used my alarm clock nightlay. Okay,
what are you currently reading? I like reading graphic novels,
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for graphic novels with like cliffhangers. I like adventure books, comedy.
I read a lot of books. Thank you to you
both just for being here today. We're excited to have you.
And thank you to Eric, our musician, for all the
music you'll be hearing in this episode today. So that's
who is Balthazari Mira. Now let's find out who was
Theodore Roosevelt with four fast facts. Theodore Roosevelt was born
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in eighteen fifty eight and died in nineteen nineteen. As
President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt champions fairness for
citizens and fought to break up big railroad monopolies. Theodore
Roosevelt wrote over thirty five books, was a champion boxer, expert, taxidermist,
a hunter, a naval officer, and a family man. We
call him a renaissance man because he's good at a
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lot of stuff, and the Teddy Bear was named after him.
You know, if I were to have a stuffed animal
named after me, I'd wanted to be the Mighty t Rex,
so people would call it the b Rex. That and
I have very short arms, like disturbingly short parts. Yeah,
I've always thought you were kind of like a t
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rex that way. It's really cool. If I were to
have a stuffed animal named after me, I'd wanted to
be a wolf, and then you could call it Elliott Wolf.
Sounds pretty cool, right, well, I don't know. It kind
of sounds like someone who does your taxes, like a
but like a cool guy who does your taxes, right cool? Yeah,
like a cool accountant account cool. How about you, Mirra,
what kind of stuffed animal would you want named after you?
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Maybe I would want like a panda or something. Okay,
the mirror Panda. I like it because it kind of
rhymes a little bit, and that'll start. What about you?
What kind of animal would you want named after you?
I want a fly? Ohkay? Interesting? Why a fly? That's
an interesting choice. Panda's they're cute. Well that we all understand,
they're cute. Everybody loves bamboo. Yeah, and yeah, because bamboo
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is delicious, delicious. Why a fly? That's an interesting choice
because I can kill them. Mhmm, interesting. Interesting. There's a
lot going on there psychologically about the sorrow. I don't
know if you have the time to dig into it
all the way. But those those stuffed animals are great. Yeah,
those are great choices, and I think in the stores
soon we're going to see them, the mirror panda and
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the bolts our fly. But now let's get to our
first game. True or false? Truer? False? Is a fuse?
Is a false? Or is a true? Is a truth
that it is false? That it was true? Or true? True?
Poor fault. In this game, be will read a statement
about Theodore Roosevelt and you'll tell us if it's true
or false. You guessed it, And since it's our first game,
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each question is worth one point, Balthazar, your first poter
Roosevelt was the first American to win the Nobel Peace Prize. True,
that's right, it's true. The Nobel Peace Prize and honors
individuals or groups that work hard to promote peace in
the world, and in nineteen o six, Roosevelt won the
award for helping end the Russo Japanese War, a big
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war between Russia and Japan. Other US presidents have also
won the Nobel Prize, Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter, and Barack Obama. Okay, Mira,
the next question is for you, Mira. True or false.
One of Theodore's well known features were his very small teeth. False.
That's right, it's false. He actually had huge teeth. He
was known for having enormous elephantine and teeth. In fact,
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it's something that cartoonists latched onto. They draw his teeth
even bigger than they were in real life, and in
real life they were already very big. A newspaper once
called him teeth a door which doesn't really roll off
the tongue. But maybe it's funny in print if you
look at it, maybe it's a funny name. Okay, Balthasar,
back to you. True or false. As a politician, Theodore
believed that he had to fight crookedness, whether it was
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great or small. False. I'm sorry, that's true. Theodore was
known as a reform someone who wants to change government
and society to help as many people as possible and
to keep it honest so it's not crooked. One thing
he supported was better working conditions. He believed people should
be safe at their jobs, which sounds like a good idea.
Maybe unless your job is like shark feeder. There's a
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little bit of danger that goes into that. It's gonna
only be so safe, Nera, you get the last question
of the round. Because Theodore was a city kid growing up,
he signed orders and legislation to make the rest of
the US look like his hometown, Manhattan. He poured concrete
and erected skyscrapers all across the US. That's false, you're right,
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that's false. From his youth, Theodore loved the outdoors. Even
though he was a city kid, he often traveled to
the vast open spaces of the West. Theodore Roosevelt believed
in conservation. That's preserving the country's natural resources. And as president,
he will preserve a hundred and fifty national forests. And
that's the end of true or false? True, true, true,
true orful. What a great first round, everybody. Now, before
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we go to a break, we're going to go to
producer Jane with our first round scores. Hey, Elliot and Beer,
don't mind telling you the Panda has out done the
fly this time. Mirror has two points about Bazzar one point.
It's very close. It's still anybody's game, Panda or Fly.
And we'll be back with our next game after this
short break. Eric, please play us some big Teeth music.
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That's a lot of wisdom. Welcome back to the Who
Was Podcast. Today we're learning who was Leonardo da Vinci
and who was D. R. Roosevelt. Now back to your host,
Elliot Klin. Thanks be. Before we get to the next game,
let's find out a little bit about who this next
game is about Leonardo da Vinci with four fast facts prospects.
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Leonardo da Vinci was born in fourteen fifty two and
died in fifteen nineteen at twelve years old. Da Vinci
was apprenticed to a famous Italian artist, Andrea del Varoccio.
Experts are certain of only thirteen paintings that Da Vinci painted,
and three of them are unfinished. In addition to painting,
da Vinci was also an engineer and inventor, an athlete,
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and a musician. Talk about a Renaissance man only in
this case instead of theoter Roosevelt. It was actually during
the Renaissance. Alright, Mira and Valsazar. I'm wondering. Da Vinci
was such an amazing artist. Do you have any artists
that you really love? My friend Aria draws really well,
that's really cool. You know what kind of stuff did
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she draw? She draws like mythical cats. Oh, mythical cats.
I love. What makes them mythical? Because regular cats are
already a little magical. What makes these ones? They have
like wings and like chomp tails. They have like corns
and things, wait, chomp tails, so they have uh, like
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a chomp like a venus fly trap mouth on their
tail kind of. She would drawn like pictures like us
one of them. I would have like the bigger one,
and she would have the smaller one. But it's sharper.
Oh wow, okay, that's it's like it. Do you want
it to be big or is it small and sharp?
You know? It's like these available online? She does? She
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even Etsy? Does she even Etsy shop? Yeah? Where do
I buy a T shirt with a with a with
a math mythical cat with WANs and a chop tail
on it? That'd be an amazing shirt. Yeah, belts are.
What about you? My friend Jake makes messy pictures. Messy pictures.
What makes them so messy? He just screwt w zone,
stabs his pencil into the paper and then just like
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he draws a picture. Sounds like an impressionist or an expressionist,
some kind of oppressionist. This is something impressionist start very impressing.
All right, well, thank you both so much for sharing
about your friends who are artists. That's so cool. And
you know, Elliott Leonardo da Vinci was really so well rounded,
yet most people probably only know him as a painter.
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That's true, being I figure it's because he painted the
Mona Lisa, the most famous painting in the world. You
ever wonder what it was like when he was painting her,
because here's how I think it probably went. Coming. Hello,
can I help you? Hi? Yeah, I'm looking for someone
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named Leonardo da Vinci, Davin, that's me. You must have
been Elsa Giordini. But call me Mona Lisa. It's a nickname.
I'm hoping it's going to catch on. Trust me. After
I paint your portrait, everyone will know the name Mona Lisa.
Whoa WHOA? Slow down here? Who do you think you
are Michael Angelo. Everybody always brings that guy. Okayna, come
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in here and have a seat. I want to try
a few different things to one up an I just
supposed to smile, maybe eventually, but it feels a weird
to me to tell the women to smile. Let's try
something on the opposite interest. Give me betray look at
your best friend, story your doggie? Why why would do
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is a Belleluciano take my dog? Because if she was jealous?
Now show me that the disbelief a fire in your eyes? Yes, amazing,
your expressions are benefico. Now fear tell me Mona Lisa,
what are you most scared of? Parrots? Always up to something.
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You never know what they're gonna say. Yes, now show
me your face of a parrot. Fluid it right now?
Perfect though. Now let's move to joy. Maybe you imagine
you're at the beautiful peach with the sun on your
skin now giving me a laugh like you're frolicking in
the waves. Ha ha ha ha, Yes, a perfect, that's
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the smile I want, And that's the smile I'm going
to paint. Don't move a muss for like three days
while I get this down. This is the Mona Lisa smile.
That's gonna make me famous and be the title of
a movie. It's probably Julius Style's best performance on the film.
What are you talking about? It's not to me, it's
Be's mind. It's coming up with this ridiculous outtake. Be.
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I think it's time to go back to the show now.
And they lived happily ever after. Wow, great dream sequence,
don't you think, Elliott B. I've told you I can't
see what you see when you're daydreaming. But let's keep
the momentum going with our next game. Hashtag history, hashtag history,
hashtag history, hashtag history, hashtag history. Okay, okay, contestants in
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this game, B will read away hashtag Leonardo da Vinci
might have used on his social media if they had
that back then when he was alive, And you will
tell us what it's about. And since this is our
second game, each question is worth two points. Go for it.
Be alright, This first question is for you. The first
hashtag is hashtag brush with Greatness? Would Leonardo use this
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hashtag because A As a part of his first job,
he had to make paint brushes for an artist or
be Leonardo loved to brush his hair daily. A. That's right,
The answer is A. Leonardo was an artist's apprentice, which
is basically a student who learns a trade and does
the more basic chores that the artist he studies under
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doesn't want to do so that they can focus on creating.
There were no art supply stores back then, so apprentices
learned how to make both paint brushes and paint and
for the brushes they used animal hair, such as those
from hogs and squirrels. So to get that hair, I
guess Leonardo was also a squirrel barber. What a renaissance man.
Leo's next hashtag is for you, Baldassar. The second hashtag
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is hashtag supper time. Would Leonardo use this hashtag because A.
Leonardo had his own food network show called Diners, Drive
Bins and Da Vinci's Or be Leonardo created a famous
painting called The Last Supper B That's right, The answer
is be. Leonardo painted one of his most famous paintings,
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one of the most famous paintings in history. The Last
Supper is a huge mural of Jesus and his last
dinner with his followers. Leonardo worked very hard on the painting,
doing many sketches of it, and once he started painting,
he paint from sunrise sunset without even stopping to eat
or drink. Kids, don't do that at home. Feel free
to stop painting to you need to drink things, you
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need to do it. Don't be a Leonardo sometimes nero
Europe again. The next hashtag is hashtag sketchy with. Leonardo
used his hashtag because A he always kept a notebook
and was sketching in it or be. One of his
many inventions was Saturday Night Live, the Sketch Show. That's right.
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The answer is a Mionardo tout many, many notebooks because
he couldn't stop killing them A With ideas and drawings.
He filled his notebooks for thirty years, to the point
that there were about thirteen thousand pages. That's right, thirteen
thousand pages. Today, only six thousand pages are known to exist,
and they are considered priceless. Okay, Baltasar. This final hashtag
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is yours. The final hashtag is hashtag bird brain with.
Leonardo used this hashtag because A he studied birds and
their ability to fly or be he had a parent
who loved making fun of him. Oh, that's right. The
answer is a Leonardo was sure that one day people
would fly, even designed a flying machine that was kind
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of like a helicopter. He would buy birds and cages
and set them free in an attempt to understand how
they flew and how they flapped their wings and they
landed safely. Now, of course we know that he was right,
people would fly, but the airplane wouldn't be invented until
nineteen oh three hundreds of years later. But the right
brothers who are also you know who Was? Podcast? Episode?
Maybe go check out that episode after this one. Leonardo
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was a visionary, and vision areas aren't always appreciated in
their time, don't I know it? And that's hashtag history,
hashtag history, hashtag great round everybody, This has been so
much fun. We're going to take a short break while
Jane talies up the scores. Eric Lease play us some
flying machine music. Get to the chapter, Sally, who was there?
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Marie Curie? You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel Prizes,
or perhaps from my episode of the Who Was Podcast
where I played myself. I wanted to take a moment
to read one of my favorite reviews about the Who Was? Podcast.
This is from Shaken Bay and it reads loved this
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Oh sho, last day, Abio, Welcome back to the Lula's podcast.
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Today we're learning who was Leonardo da Vinci and who
was R. Roosevelt? And now back to your host Elliott Haylin.
Thanks be and now without further Ado, let's go take
our flying machines that are kind of like helicopters. To
producer Jane for the scores. Oh, Elliott and B. It's
still a very close game, but the panda has gone
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ahead with six points in the fly file mirror six Alfazar,
Oh thank you. Wow. What a closely, very close game.
That fly is is right behind that panda. And who
knows how things will turn out with our last game,
because there's one game left to go and it's called
Converge of Greatness. In this multiple choice game, B will
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read questions about where our two historical figures overlap or converge.
And because this is our third game. Each question is
worth three points. Picked the best option as your answer
at Faltazzar. This first question is for you. Be you
know what to do. Both Roosevelt and da Vinci were
involved in wars in their lifetimes. But while da Vinci
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did not believe in war, he did a design propaganda
posters for it or be design uniforms for the soldiers
or see design weapons for it. See that's right. The
answer is seed. Vince referred to war as a disease. However,
the Duke he was working for, cesare Borgia, asked him
to design weapons for his troops. Despite his feelings about war,
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DaVinci did enjoy designing new and better war machinery. One
of his designs was a giant crossboat I could shoot
several arrows at once and would have taken several soldiers
to operate. Because even though Leonardo didn't like war, he
did like teamwork. Mira. This next one's for you. Both
da Vinci and Roosevelt were interested in the workings of
the human body. Da Vinci spent a lot of time
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studying the body, while Roosevelt was a huge advocate of
physical fitness because a he thought he would grow up
to be a doctor. B he was very frail as
a child, or see he didn't pass the presidential physical
fitness test ironic as a A. The answer is B.
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Roosevelt was so frail as a child that he had
to stay inside into his very severe asthma. As he
got older, he worked hard to develop more strength and
become more athletic, leading to Roosevelt becoming the hearty outdoorsman
we know him as today. Balthazar, back to you. Both
Roosevelt and da Vinci were passionate about nature. As a boy,
da Vinci became fascinated with a specific element of nature.
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Which element was it? Was it a water, be earth
or sea? Air? That's right, The answer is A. When
da Vinci was four years old, a hurricane hit the countryside,
and when he was ten, the Arno River flooded Florence.
Leonardo never forgot the flood, and all his life he
drew pictures of moving water. Leonardo was fascinated by water
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because it was a source of life and a source
of destruction. Like me, kind of ignoritor, Mira. Here's the
final question. Both da Vinci and Roosevelt were incredibly multitalented.
In fact, they had so many skills, it's easier to
list things they didn't do. Which of the following is
something Teddy Roosevelt did not do? Was it A learned
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to speak multiple languages. B became an expert sailor. Or
C invented a new pasta shape. Which one did he
not do? See, that's right, the answer is C. Sadly,
Teddy never made a new pasta shape, but he did
sail down Egypt's Nile River, where he discovered his love
of hunting. Roosevelt also learned languages on his family's travels
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to Europe. He began learning German, and later he learned
Latin and Greek and French. Look, I myself have learned Elvish,
so I'm no slouch either. If I ever meet an elf,
I don't know exactly what to say. And that's the
end of Converge of Greatness. And that sound means right
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at the end of the game. And that's the end
of the show. Will we wait for Producer James tell
you the points I'd love to hear from the contestants
in Europe. What's your favorite thing that you learned about
either Theodore Roosevelt or Leonardo da Vinci. I learned that
Leonardo da Vinci didn't only paint the Mona Lisa. He
painted um the girl with ermine, and he painted the
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other one. I thought the only lady he painted was
the Mona Lisa. Yeah, he painted a number of portraits
of women. It was you know, painters, they like to
paint pictures of all sorts of things that they find,
and certainly ladies or something that you find when you
just go walking around. Ladies are all over the place.
Why not paint pictures of them? Right Leonardo? Okay, Balthazar,
what about you? What's something that was your favorite thing
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that you learned about, either Theodore Roosevelt or Leonardo da Vinci.
I like Da Vinci that he tainted so many paintings
and was ahead of his time. I saw one take
games in Washington, d c. Yeah. His his paintings are
so beautiful, aren't they? And do you remember what the
painting was that you saw in Washington? I fret it was.
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It really amazing to think about, Oh, this person I'm
reading about. I saw one of their paintings. Hundreds of
years after they painted it. That painting is still there
and people can still look at it. And it's almost
like they're talking to the artist a little bit by
looking at his work. Thank you to both of you
for sharing your thoughts on those amazing things about Leonard DaVinci.
And now it's time for the big moment. Jane, please
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announced our winner, Elliott and b It's incredible, but the
fly caught up of the panda and ran ahead with
the game. Baltazar one with eleven points Mirror nine. Fantastic.
Still such a close game, Mira, you should be so
proud we were a fantastic panda player and Baltazar, congratulations
on your fly win. Balthazar is our winner today. You
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have ten seconds for shoutouts. Who would you like to
thank for your victory today? I would like to thank
my mom for signing me up for this show and
my family for helping me with the nice Oh and
we get a cameo from Charlomagne that was yet for
those listening at home. Charlemagne just showed up and is
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just as rebal and also cute as was broughtest earlier. Well. Congratulations,
congratulations Mirror for playing a great game. Our winner and
their library of choice were receiving a selection of who
was books and I'm going to give my own shout
out to intern Zach, Jane, Eric, Adam for text Her
for being our Leonardo da Vinci, and Jane Baker for
being our Mona Lisa, and to be of course, and
a big thank you to both of our contestants who
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played an amaze in game. And a bigger even thank
you to you wherever you are for listening. Until next time.
This is Elliott Big Teeth Calin saying we are history.
Good Bye. Everybody got a question for any of our
famous figures, send us a voice memo at the who
Was Podcast at gmail dot com. It might just end
up on the show. But Who Was Podcast is produced
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by Radio Point, I Heart Media and Penguin Workshop and
is based on the best selling who h Q series
published by Penguin. This show is hosted by Elliott Calin
with co host Megan O'Neill as b also starring Jane
Baker as Producer, Jane and Mona Lisa, Eric Shackney as Eric,
and Adam protect Her as Leonardo da Vinci. Our executive
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producers are Richard Corson, Alex Bach, Elliott Calin, Megan O'Neil,
Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. The executive producer for Penguin
Workshop is Francesco Sadita. Executive producer for I Heart Media
is Lindsay Hoffman. Ex episode was written by Devin Coleman,
Elliott Calin, and Megan O'Neill. Produced by Bernie Kaminsky and
Taylor Kawalski. Talent producer is Jane Breaker. Theme song and
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