June 8, 2022 • 28 mins
It's brother against brother and contestant against contestant in this high-flying episode! Happy Bros Day everyone! We promise it’s a real thing!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Be be Be. Where are you hello down there?
Elliott be Why are you swinging from the recording studio chandelier? Well?
I was so inspired reading about the Right Brothers the
Adventures of the Airplane that I've wanted to fly through
the guy just like Navid, only I don't have a blane. Luckily,
(00:22):
we record in an incredibly luxurious recording studio. Exactly as
I fall from the chandelier, I'll land safely in the
infinity pool. But you can't announce the show from up
there come back down? Oh no, not after I read
about our other historical figures, the brothers Grim, Staying up
here is the only thing keeping me safe from fairytale witches.
B It's easy to stay away from fairytale witches. Just
(00:45):
don't eat their candy houses. Oh with my sweet tooth.
You know I can't resist a candy house. Golly, it's
gonna take the whole theme song to get you down
from there. Hit it, Eric, bloody, you know about the
gates this story. The game is on. To get some
(01:06):
energy and buckle up your brain, because it's sign to
play the most podcast, because it's time to pass. Who
Knows Live from Tom Baland or so called SoCal Los Angeles.
Welcome to Who Was, the history clues show that gives
contestants the chance to win mega prizes and podcast glory.
(01:29):
I'm your announcer, be the co host with the co
most and here's your host, the man who is young
in heart but old of brain. It's Elliot Kaylin. Thank
you be and welcome everyone to the Who Was? Podcast.
You know this show is like Jeopardy, only with surprise guests,
silly games, and a pet elephant. Her name is Geraldine.
(01:51):
Her contestants were sent who Was books about two great
figures from history. Now they're here to show off their
knowledge and the hopes of winning fantastic prizes. Probably today
we're talking about the Ripe Brothers and the Brothers Grim.
That's right, it's our special Brother's Day episode. I don't
think Brother's Day is an actual holiday. Be well it
(02:11):
is now Happy Brother's Day everybody, Okay, for he's a
jolly good brother, He's a jolly good bray. Why don't
you know what? Why don't we just meet our contestants
about that? All right? Okay? Well, first up, we have
oz Oz. Please introduce yourself. Hi, my name is Cozy uh,
(02:31):
I'm ten years old and I like to draw, and
you like to draw, And we hear you have a
really cool joke to share with us. Will you please
share your joke? What do you cost us pasta? You
call it impasta? Very nice? Okay? And we also have
Trip Trip. Please introduce yourself. Hi, my name is Trip.
(02:56):
A fun fact about me is I really love football,
and I have multiple jokes I don't want to share.
Oh okay, Well, um, let's hear we want to give
us two Yeah, okay, I can do that. What if
you're American when you go in the bathroom and you're
American when you come out? What are you when you're
in the bathroom? I don't know what? What are you European? Oh? Nice?
(03:21):
All right? And what's your second joke? Did you hear
about the person who invented the knock knock joke? He
won a Nobel prize? Very nice? Very nice. I love
that our contestants have come on and they're already funnier
than we are. I know, Mozzie, you said that you
like to draw. What kind of thing do you like
(03:41):
to draw? The most just curious humans? All right, there's
a lot of them around it's easy to find one
to draw and Trip. You said you like football. Do
you like to play it or just to watch it
or both? In what position do you like to play?
I used to really like running back second find small spaces.
Then I got more into wide receiver. Then I got
really good at throwing, and I went to quarterback. Now
(04:04):
I'm in safety, wide receiver, quarterback, and running back. So
you're the whole team. They just need you on the fields. Well,
because Elliott, you also need a mascot. You need someone
to dress up in a costume and cheer the month exactly.
That's the other person on the team. Yeah, you know,
I used to play football myself, but I wasn't good
enough to be the quarterback, so I played the one
fifth back. I'm just trying to be as funny as
(04:26):
our contestants. All right, thank you both for joining us.
We're very excited to have you here. And thank you
also to Eric, our musician, for providing that lovely live
Meet the Contestants music. Today's episode is especially exciting. That's right, Trip,
Do you happen to have the same teacher? Yes, actually
the homeroom teacher and all periods and all periods and
that teacher's name would be Mr Bruno. Mr Bruno, you're
(04:49):
here too, Thank you so much for joining us again here. So,
Mr Bruno, how does your class celebrate Brother's Day? Well,
it's funny. This week we had twin Days. However, all
the kids were dressed up like twins, and it's exciting
to hear that you're celebrating real days in class as
opposed to Brother's Day, which be again, I have to
break it to your Brother's Day is not a not
(05:10):
a real holiday. It's not a real day that people celebrate.
It should be. So that's who is. Now let's find
out who was. Orville and will were right with four
fast facts, Fast guys. Wilbur Right lived from eighteen sixty
seven to nineteen fifteen and Orville Right live from eighteen
seventy to nine eight. They invented the airplane in nineteen
(05:33):
o three, and we're the first people to ever fly
in one. They worked together their whole lives. Wilbur came
up with the ideas, and Orville would build them. Fast guys, Okay,
I have to ask art contestants, because you know it's
Brother's Day. Do you have siblings? Well, I have my
sister here? Oh, your sisters there? Yes? Hello? How many? Wait?
(05:55):
So how many sisters do you have? All together? Four?
And one brother and one brother so you can celebrate
this not real holiday of Brother's Day. I don't celebrate it.
Thank you. Good. Yes, it's not real. And the sister
that's sitting here with me is my favorite. Oh that's
so nice to hear. Wow. And um, Osie, what about you?
(06:18):
Do you have any siblings? I have a sister. If
you and your sister were going to work together to
invent something, what do you think you might invent together?
What would we invent? Wait, Osie, is your sister there too?
Maybe it's sister's Day. Maybe it's sister's Day. Make a
TV show? Oh great, well you're already halfway there because
(06:38):
you're a great joke writer. Well, thank you both. We're
very excited to have you today. I think now it's
time to move on to our first game. It's called
Backpack from the Past. From the past Baby. For this game,
we managed to get our hands on the right brothers
actual backpack. They were very close and they are the
(07:00):
same backpack. We're going to pull some objects out of
it and describe them to you. Then you'll tell us
why it's important in the life of the Right Brothers.
And since this is our first round, every question will
be worth one point. Mosie. The first item is going
to be for you, b Please pull it out of
that backpack. Hey, it's a hockey stick. I don't think
the Wright brothers played for the Philadelphia Flyers, so why
(07:23):
would they have this hockey stick. It's because I'm pretty
sure Jacob got hit by a hockey stick and he
became depressed. It's that's right that it was Wilbur that
that hit for the hockey stick. But I think we've
gotten our the Grim brothers mixed up with the Right brothers.
But that's okay. Who hasn't made that mistake in his
quiz history? Kids Quiz Show, I do that all the time.
(07:45):
That's true. But Wilbur when he was young, he was
accidentally hit with a hockey stick while playing. The injuries
he received forced him to leave school and give up
his dreams of being a teacher. But don't worry, he
managed to build a career as a successful plane inventor.
The next item is for Trip. Oh, it's a bicycle bell.
Why is that in the backpack? Trip? Why is it
(08:06):
in there? Uh? That is why the bicycle bell is
in there is because when they used to make bicycles
before they made planes. That's right, exactly. The Rape brothers
owned a bicycle shop and made bis instead of planes.
And they even used what they learned about steering bicycles
(08:26):
to help them figure out how to steer a plane.
But too bad they didn't put that little bell on
the plane though. That would have been fun. Okay, OZI,
you're turned again, all right, I bet this one will
be very exciting. Oh it's just a long, thin cardboard box.
It's kind of beat up to like someone was twisting it.
Why would the Rape brothers have this Because they like
(08:48):
to make stuff and they made boxes. It's a good
guess it's not quite what we're looking for. This was
the box that inspired Wilbur to make a breakthrough in
his airplane design. He picked up this box. When he
twisted in his hands, it gave him the idea to
have the pilot of the plane twist the plane's wings.
It turns out ideas can come from anywhere. I'm going
to pull out the last item from the backpack trip.
(09:09):
This one is for you. It's a hat, and the
tag says made in France. What's this doing in the
right Brothers backpack? It's on the tip of my brain
like that happens to me a lot. To shake it
off the tip of your brain. Get it get get
it to the back of your brain where you can,
you can pull it in. All right, that's okay. It's
from when Wilbur demonstrated their plane in France and instantly
(09:33):
became an international superstar. He became so famous that copies
of his hat became the latest fashion trend known as
the Viba reed. You know there's a hat in France
named after me? Really there is, Yes, it's called the
b Ray good point. I shouldn't have asked. And that's
the end of our first game from The Best Baby.
(09:58):
Now let's fly on over to producer Jane for the scores.
Thanks Elliott, and happy brother's day too. I would like
to give a little shout out to my own brothers.
That would be Bugs, Bake Wheels, Boo boo and Moose.
All right, I'd also like to tell you the score.
I'll tied up one to one. Thank you, Jane. We
have to go to a short break. But while we're
(10:20):
doing that Be has a bonus question for our contestants
to think about. During the break, the Right brothers realized
that to design a working plane they had to solve
three specific problems. When we come back, our contestants will
get one bonus point for each of these problems they
can name, for a total of three points. So let's
(10:40):
get to the break so we can get back to
the game. Eric, please play us some airplane music overhead compartment.
(11:00):
Welcome back to the WHOS podcast. Today we're learning all
about the Ripe Brothers and the brothers Grim and now
back to your host, Elliott Kaylin. Happy Brother's Day, Elliott,
still not a real holiday v. Before the break, the
scores were tied. Trip and Dosi both have one point each.
But let's see if we can add to those scores
with our bonus question. Uh Be, can you remind me
what was that bonus question again? Okay? Before the break,
(11:23):
we asked the contestants that they could name three problems.
The Rpe Brothers decided they had to solve to design
a working plane. Okay, so Mosie is going to get
a chance to answer first. Trip, would you please remove
your headphones? Mosie, can you remember what were any of
the three problems that the Ripe brothers decided they had
to solve how to keep good plane flying, how to
(11:44):
make a working engine, and how to turn it. Yeah,
that's right. Now, let's get tripped back in here. They
needed a engine that would left. Uh wait, no, the
wings needed have left and engines need to hold him
up up and a light enough engine so it wouldn't fall.
You got two of them right. They needed the wings
(12:04):
that would lift them up, and they did an engine
to push it forward. And the third one was they
needed to figure out a way to steer and control
the machine and then when it was flying. But that
was great, that was great. They had those three problems
and they and it took them a lot longer to
figure it out than it took you. That's for sure.
That's true. And you know what I loved about all
those answers because they were all the right answers, because
(12:25):
they were the right brothers for the problems that they
were looking for. You know, because because there because their names.
That was hilarious, Thank you, thank you. But enough about
those brothers. Let's get right to finding out about our
other subjects from history. Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm with four
fast Facts pas Facts. Wilhelm Grimm lived from seventeen eighty
(12:49):
six to eighteen fifty nine and Jacob Grimm lived from
seventeen eighty five to eighteen sixty three. They collected and
published traditional German fairy tales told by ordinary people. They
were both university a philologist, which means the study of
language in historical texts. The third edition of their fairy
tale book was a huge success. It was the diary
of a wimpy kid of its time. So let's move
(13:13):
on to our next game. It's something we call Once
upon a Lie. The brothers Grammar best known for their
books of fairy tales. So in this game, we'll tell
you a fairy tale about them and you have to
tell us if it's true or a lie. And since
this is our second game, each question is worth two points,
(13:34):
So get ready for some questions in fairy tale form.
Trip Europe. First, take it away be once upon a Time.
Two brothers decided to collect all the magical stories in
the world, so they booted up their computer connected to
yield Internet and visited old German folk tales dot biz faults.
(13:54):
They did have computers at the time. That's right, it's
a lie. I appreciate your anger. Wow that we we
tried to pull one over on you and you would
not have it. That's a lie. They collected their fairy
tales from ordinary people like maids, nanny's soldiers, even children.
Good stories can come from anywhere. In fact, your average
old person has way more interesting stories than the lousy internet.
(14:15):
Next time you want to go on the Internet, just
go talked to an old person. Yeah, alright. This next
question is for ozy. Once upon a time, two brothers
decided to write the most magical book of all, a dictionary.
But the dictionary grew larger and larger and longer and longer,
and it wasn't finished for over a hundred years. Yep,
(14:37):
that's true. Jacob and Wilham tried to write the first
German dictionary, but it took them sixteen years just to
get part of the way through the letter B. In
the end, they only made it up to the letter D.
Other people eventually finished the dictionary in nineteen sixty, almost
a century after both brothers had died. Okay, and the
next question is for trips. Once upon a time, two
(14:59):
brave brothers were forced to leave their home by a
wicked king when they refused to cross out the names
of all the authors in the library and write the
king's name so that it would look like the king
wrote all the books faults. All right, that's a lie.
The King of Hanover demanded every professor sign a loyalty
oath to him. That's what he demanded. Yes, I studied
(15:20):
that page for hours. Do you remember what Jacob and
Wilhelm did. Did they sign that loyalty oath? No? They
would throw rocks in the professor's windows that didn't sign it.
Can't get bonus points. No, No monus points were thank
you for helping tell the story. Jacob and Wilhelm. They
took a stand for political freedom and refused to sign
that loyalty oath. So they were exiled from Hanover. Rocks
(15:40):
were thrown at them, they were kicked out of town.
But it made them heroes to people around the world. Okay,
and this last question is for Oz. Once upon a
time there was a man named Jacob who loved footnotes,
which are little messages at the bottom of the page
that explained something in the book. After a long day
of footnoting, his newest book, he laid down for a
pleasant slum, but when he awoke, he discovered that all
(16:02):
of his footnotes had disappeared, stolen by his wicked brother.
This is true. Jacob and Wilhelm disagreed about who their
fairy tale books were for. Jacob wanted them to be
for scholars who loved having words explained to them, but
ville Ham wanted them to be for kids who just
wanted good stories. And in the end, ville Ham one
(16:24):
based on the ancient law kids rule grown ups. True
true words were never spoken. And that's the end of
Once upon a Lie, and we all lived happily ever after?
Or did we? Let's find out. Producer Jane, what are
our Scots who at six points turned past seven? Thank you, Jane.
(16:49):
I'm now very excited to announce we have some very
special guests. The fairytale fanatics, the determined Germans, the brothers
from another fairy godmother, the Grim's courtesy of the who
was he was? You want to make in the first
is the gluten talk? I am Jacob Grim. Well, welcome
(17:15):
to the show, Jacob. But where's your brother Wilhelm? Doctor?
If we are not talking right now? Oh that's terrible.
Why not you work together so well on your fairy
tale books. I know, but we're writing the first ever
German dictionary and somehow researching the meaning and history of
every single chairman Verde. It isn't as fun as listening
to stories about the witches and gnomes. Who would have
(17:38):
guessed that. So, Jacob, what has Wilhelm been doing that's
getting on your nerves? Oh my god, fair to I begin.
He keeps borrowing my books and closing to the door
too loudly, and he's taking forever business work. You know.
He holds his fingers close to me, and he keeps
saying I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you, which
(17:58):
is technically true, he is not touching me, but still
it's so annoying. You know what, the maybe we should
have called the right brothers. They really loved each other.
Oh no, no, no, I am in this for the drama.
I love my bras too in some place. That's what
makes it difficult to work with him, because he's so
important to me that I want everything we do together
(18:21):
to be perfect. Oh that's so sweet. Being a brother
sounds hard. Happy Brother's Day, by the way, I appreciate
that you're welcome. It's not a real holiday. You know,
working together is also hard for these two Italian brothers.
I know, the Mario brothers. You say collect Italian folk tales.
Oh no, no, they're plumbers who save a princess from
(18:42):
a mean turtle king in a mushroom world. This sounds
like a fairy tale we need for the book. You
must tell it to me. Well, once upon a time
there was a magical land called Nintendo, where two brothers
of very heights had to work together with Mario educational value, Luigi,
(19:03):
why don't we go to a short breaking. If we'll
get to our final round, we'll find out who will
be our winner. Eric, please play us some footnote music.
Please mustache pages, don't wear shoes. You know Sally? Who
(19:25):
was there? Marie Curie? You may remember me from winning
multiple Nobel prizes, or perhaps from my episode of the
who wast podcast where I played myself. I wanted to
take a moment to read one of my favorite reviews
about the Who Was podcasts. This is from Shaken Bay
and it reads loved this. Me and my little sister
(19:48):
love this show more. Please, our faith is Ariet Toman.
If you want to hear your review right on the air.
Make sure to subscribe, like and review to the OAS
podcasts in the I had to write you up or
wherever you get your podcasts should let's day as we're
(20:11):
back on the Hula podcast. When we least left up,
OZI had six points and Trip had seven points. Now
back to your host, Ellie Kalin, Thank you be and
now it's time for our final game of the game,
Converge of Greatness. In this multiple choice game, we'll explore
(20:37):
how the lives of the Wright brothers and the brothers
Grim overlap are similar to each other or converge And
because we're in the third round, each question is worth
three enormous points. Are you ready? The first question is
for oz B take it away. The brothers Grim put
out multiple books, but the Wright brothers also dabbled in publishing.
(20:58):
Their first business together was a print shop. What did
they print? Was it a wanted posters for gun slingers?
Be their own newspaper as well as a newspaper for Dayton,
Ohio's black community. Or see the first phone book which
was only one page long and said nobody has a
phone yet Ya ding Nang's that's right. The answer is v.
(21:21):
As teenagers Boordville, will were put out a weekly newspaper
and a daily newspaper, and they helped their high school friends.
The poet Paul Dunbar put out a paper for Dayton's
black community. You know, what do you think if they
had stuck with printing, we'd be flying today in paper airplanes. Wow.
History's mystery. Yeah, to think of how different life would
have been. Okay, the next question is for trip Flying
their plane in France made the Right brothers famous, but
(21:44):
France also had a big impact on the lives of
the brothers Grimm. Was it because A They were inspired
to collect fairy tales after hearing a story about a
magic Beckett. B they were inspired to preserve German culture
after the French army took over their village. Or see
they were inspired to eat nothing but hot dogs after
(22:06):
they first tasted frenches mustard. Uh, yes it was b.
That's right. Napoleon soldiers invaded the Grimm's village of Castle
in eighteen o six and they stayed there for seven years.
It was a very difficult and dangerous time for the
people of Castle. Luckily, the Grimms like to stay inside
and read books all day, so that kept him out
of trouble Mosy. This next question is for you. The
(22:28):
brothers Grim relied on many other people to share fairy
tales with them. The right brothers also couldn't have built
their airplane all on their own. How did they get
help from others? Did they A asked the Smithsonian and
the Weather Service for advice on their experiments? Be compared
notes with other inventors working on developing flying machines. See
I lie, they did it all on their own with
(22:50):
no help from anyone. Or D they did both A
and B but not SID. That's right. The answer is D.
They got information government offices, and they were in contact
with other inventors who are also working on flying machines.
They never could have invented the airplane if they tried
to do it all on their own and refuse to
let anybody help them. It is very hard to invent
new things. And now our final question goes to Tripp.
(23:13):
Wilbur Wright was a star student, but Orville Wright hated school. Similarly,
when Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm were both professors at the
University of Hanover, Vilhelm was a popular teacher, but students
did not like Jacob. Why not? Was it because A
he didn't let students ask questions, b he gave too
(23:35):
much homework? Or see, whenever a student asked, can I
go to the bathroom? Jacob would reply I don't know,
can you and laugh at them? Hey, that's right. The
answer is a Jacob refused to let his students ask
questions in class. They just had to sit there and
listen to him talk on and on forever, stick to
the fairytale collecting business. Jacob teaching was not for you.
(24:06):
That sound means it's the end of the game, which
means it's almost the end of the show. But first,
while we wait for producer Jane to finish telling the points,
I've got some questions for the contestants. First, I want
to ask Mr Bruno, do you let your students ask
questions in class all the time? Okay, better teacher than
Jacob Graham. Great history will look kindly on you for
letting them ask questions. That's fantastic. Yeah, very anti Socratic
(24:28):
method that yeah, it's him and Socrates did not see
eye to eye. Also, they couldn't look at each other.
They lived thousands of years apart. Now I'd like to
ask you, contestants, what's something that you were surprised to
learn about the Right Brothers or the brothers Grim Trip.
Is there anything that jumped out at you or that
really surprised yours particularly interesting to you about either of
our brothers? To be honest, uh, I was very fascinated
(24:51):
on how they could stay like six hours a day
before school. I could barely study thirty minutes on these people.
So you were amazed at how much they study compared
to how much you can study. Yes, wow, that's fair.
But maybe they're an example for you to try to
live up to if you want to. Possibly, and Oz,
is there anything that when you were reading about the
Right Brothers or Brothers Grim that really either surprised you
(25:13):
or that really stuck with you, something that you found
really memorable? They created the airplane, That's true. That's it,
To be honest. They didn't do too much else besides
making and flying airplanes, but that's all you gotta do.
They found the thing that was really exciting to them
and they did it and nobody had ever done it before.
It's quality, not quantity, Elliott, exactly. Not everyone has to
be a Thomas Edison making lots of inventions. You make
(25:33):
one invention that's big enough, people will love you and
they'll buy hats that look like your hat. Mr Berno,
is there anything that that really jumped out to you
about either the Right Brothers or the brothers Graham. I
was amazed at how they used the bicycles to help
them invent their plane, and that they charged six for
a bicycle way back then. Must have been a lot
of money. Yeah, yeah, that'd be a great deal for
(25:53):
a bicycle. Now, thank you so much for your answers.
Now Here, it is time for the exciting conclusion of
our special Mother's Day episode. It's not real. Well listen,
Elliott got on board Trip. You'll get there eventually. You'll
get there somewhere. I was against Brother's Day two. You'll
you'll feel it. You'll get there eventually. Trip better feel
it because Trip one with thirteen points, Trip is our
(26:16):
winner today. Great job Trip, and great job Ozzie. You've
both played fantastically a trip as our winner. You have
ten seconds for shoutouts. Who would you like to thank?
I would like to thank my family. I would like
to thank my mom and my dad and essentially and
my sister, and I also would like to thank my
friend group. Thank you all. I'm saying thank you as
a member of your friend group. Yeah, be was one
(26:39):
of the friends that you were thanking. I assume right, Yeah,
I guess our winner and their library of choice where
we're receiving a selection of Who Was books, and I'm
going to give my own shout outs to interim Zach
Jane Kennie, Eric Chris Ferry for being our Jacob Grimm
and to be and a big thank you to both
of our contestants. Thank you so much to you at
(26:59):
home for listening. Next week, please come back to us,
we'll be learning who Was two more amazing people from history.
Until then, this is Elliott Caylin's way or the High
Whalen's Way, Calin saying we're history. Goodbye. Everybody got a
question for any of our famous figures, send us a
voice memo at the Who Was Podcast at gmail dot com.
(27:21):
It might just end up on the show. Who Was
Podcast is produced by a Radio Point, I Heart Media
and Penguin Workshop, based on the best selling Hugh h
Q series published by Penguin. The show is hosted by
Elliott Calin with co host Megan O'Neill as b and
also starred Jane Baker as producer Jane, Eric Shackney as Eric,
and Chris Ferry as Jacob Grimm. Executive producers are Richard Corson,
(27:42):
Alex Bach, Elliott Calin, Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder.
The executive producer for Penguin Workshop is Francesco Sedida and
the executive producer for iHeart Media is Lindsay Hawkman. This
show was written by Megan O'Neill, Elliott Caylin, Cannie Mobley,
and Jane Baker. It was produced by Bernie Kaminski. Are
talent producer is Jane Baker. The theme song and music
(28:03):
were composed and performed by Eric Schackman, edited and mixed
by Kate Moldenhower, and recorded by Joanna Samuels. Special thanks
to Zach Timpson, Charlotte Dianda, Daniel Goodman, and Michael Lewis Howard,
who was podcast was recorded at the iHeart Studios in
Los Angeles, California. Sound services provided by Great City Hosts
(28:23):
The Bus podcast because it's standard flavor
Hi, Be be Be. Where are you hello down there?
Elliott be Why are you swinging from the recording studio chandelier? Well?
I was so inspired reading about the Right Brothers the
Adventures of the Airplane that I've wanted to fly through
the guy just like Navid, only I don't have a blane. Luckily,
(00:22):
we record in an incredibly luxurious recording studio. Exactly as
I fall from the chandelier, I'll land safely in the
infinity pool. But you can't announce the show from up
there come back down? Oh no, not after I read
about our other historical figures, the brothers Grim, Staying up
here is the only thing keeping me safe from fairytale witches.
B It's easy to stay away from fairytale witches. Just
(00:45):
don't eat their candy houses. Oh with my sweet tooth.
You know I can't resist a candy house. Golly, it's
gonna take the whole theme song to get you down
from there. Hit it, Eric, bloody, you know about the
gates this story. The game is on. To get some
(01:06):
energy and buckle up your brain, because it's sign to
play the most podcast, because it's time to pass. Who
Knows Live from Tom Baland or so called SoCal Los Angeles.
Welcome to Who Was, the history clues show that gives
contestants the chance to win mega prizes and podcast glory.
(01:29):
I'm your announcer, be the co host with the co
most and here's your host, the man who is young
in heart but old of brain. It's Elliot Kaylin. Thank
you be and welcome everyone to the Who Was? Podcast.
You know this show is like Jeopardy, only with surprise guests,
silly games, and a pet elephant. Her name is Geraldine.
(01:51):
Her contestants were sent who Was books about two great
figures from history. Now they're here to show off their
knowledge and the hopes of winning fantastic prizes. Probably today
we're talking about the Ripe Brothers and the Brothers Grim.
That's right, it's our special Brother's Day episode. I don't
think Brother's Day is an actual holiday. Be well it
(02:11):
is now Happy Brother's Day everybody, Okay, for he's a
jolly good brother, He's a jolly good bray. Why don't
you know what? Why don't we just meet our contestants
about that? All right? Okay? Well, first up, we have
oz Oz. Please introduce yourself. Hi, my name is Cozy uh,
(02:31):
I'm ten years old and I like to draw, and
you like to draw, And we hear you have a
really cool joke to share with us. Will you please
share your joke? What do you cost us pasta? You
call it impasta? Very nice? Okay? And we also have
Trip Trip. Please introduce yourself. Hi, my name is Trip.
(02:56):
A fun fact about me is I really love football,
and I have multiple jokes I don't want to share.
Oh okay, Well, um, let's hear we want to give
us two Yeah, okay, I can do that. What if
you're American when you go in the bathroom and you're
American when you come out? What are you when you're
in the bathroom? I don't know what? What are you European? Oh? Nice?
(03:21):
All right? And what's your second joke? Did you hear
about the person who invented the knock knock joke? He
won a Nobel prize? Very nice? Very nice. I love
that our contestants have come on and they're already funnier
than we are. I know, Mozzie, you said that you
like to draw. What kind of thing do you like
(03:41):
to draw? The most just curious humans? All right, there's
a lot of them around it's easy to find one
to draw and Trip. You said you like football. Do
you like to play it or just to watch it
or both? In what position do you like to play?
I used to really like running back second find small spaces.
Then I got more into wide receiver. Then I got
really good at throwing, and I went to quarterback. Now
(04:04):
I'm in safety, wide receiver, quarterback, and running back. So
you're the whole team. They just need you on the fields. Well,
because Elliott, you also need a mascot. You need someone
to dress up in a costume and cheer the month exactly.
That's the other person on the team. Yeah, you know,
I used to play football myself, but I wasn't good
enough to be the quarterback, so I played the one
fifth back. I'm just trying to be as funny as
(04:26):
our contestants. All right, thank you both for joining us.
We're very excited to have you here. And thank you
also to Eric, our musician, for providing that lovely live
Meet the Contestants music. Today's episode is especially exciting. That's right, Trip,
Do you happen to have the same teacher? Yes, actually
the homeroom teacher and all periods and all periods and
that teacher's name would be Mr Bruno. Mr Bruno, you're
(04:49):
here too, Thank you so much for joining us again here. So,
Mr Bruno, how does your class celebrate Brother's Day? Well,
it's funny. This week we had twin Days. However, all
the kids were dressed up like twins, and it's exciting
to hear that you're celebrating real days in class as
opposed to Brother's Day, which be again, I have to
break it to your Brother's Day is not a not
(05:10):
a real holiday. It's not a real day that people celebrate.
It should be. So that's who is. Now let's find
out who was. Orville and will were right with four
fast facts, Fast guys. Wilbur Right lived from eighteen sixty
seven to nineteen fifteen and Orville Right live from eighteen
seventy to nine eight. They invented the airplane in nineteen
(05:33):
o three, and we're the first people to ever fly
in one. They worked together their whole lives. Wilbur came
up with the ideas, and Orville would build them. Fast guys, Okay,
I have to ask art contestants, because you know it's
Brother's Day. Do you have siblings? Well, I have my
sister here? Oh, your sisters there? Yes? Hello? How many? Wait?
(05:55):
So how many sisters do you have? All together? Four?
And one brother and one brother so you can celebrate
this not real holiday of Brother's Day. I don't celebrate it.
Thank you. Good. Yes, it's not real. And the sister
that's sitting here with me is my favorite. Oh that's
so nice to hear. Wow. And um, Osie, what about you?
(06:18):
Do you have any siblings? I have a sister. If
you and your sister were going to work together to
invent something, what do you think you might invent together?
What would we invent? Wait, Osie, is your sister there too?
Maybe it's sister's Day. Maybe it's sister's Day. Make a
TV show? Oh great, well you're already halfway there because
(06:38):
you're a great joke writer. Well, thank you both. We're
very excited to have you today. I think now it's
time to move on to our first game. It's called
Backpack from the Past. From the past Baby. For this game,
we managed to get our hands on the right brothers
actual backpack. They were very close and they are the
(07:00):
same backpack. We're going to pull some objects out of
it and describe them to you. Then you'll tell us
why it's important in the life of the Right Brothers.
And since this is our first round, every question will
be worth one point. Mosie. The first item is going
to be for you, b Please pull it out of
that backpack. Hey, it's a hockey stick. I don't think
the Wright brothers played for the Philadelphia Flyers, so why
(07:23):
would they have this hockey stick. It's because I'm pretty
sure Jacob got hit by a hockey stick and he
became depressed. It's that's right that it was Wilbur that
that hit for the hockey stick. But I think we've
gotten our the Grim brothers mixed up with the Right brothers.
But that's okay. Who hasn't made that mistake in his
quiz history? Kids Quiz Show, I do that all the time.
(07:45):
That's true. But Wilbur when he was young, he was
accidentally hit with a hockey stick while playing. The injuries
he received forced him to leave school and give up
his dreams of being a teacher. But don't worry, he
managed to build a career as a successful plane inventor.
The next item is for Trip. Oh, it's a bicycle bell.
Why is that in the backpack? Trip? Why is it
(08:06):
in there? Uh? That is why the bicycle bell is
in there is because when they used to make bicycles
before they made planes. That's right, exactly. The Rape brothers
owned a bicycle shop and made bis instead of planes.
And they even used what they learned about steering bicycles
(08:26):
to help them figure out how to steer a plane.
But too bad they didn't put that little bell on
the plane though. That would have been fun. Okay, OZI,
you're turned again, all right, I bet this one will
be very exciting. Oh it's just a long, thin cardboard box.
It's kind of beat up to like someone was twisting it.
Why would the Rape brothers have this Because they like
(08:48):
to make stuff and they made boxes. It's a good
guess it's not quite what we're looking for. This was
the box that inspired Wilbur to make a breakthrough in
his airplane design. He picked up this box. When he
twisted in his hands, it gave him the idea to
have the pilot of the plane twist the plane's wings.
It turns out ideas can come from anywhere. I'm going
to pull out the last item from the backpack trip.
(09:09):
This one is for you. It's a hat, and the
tag says made in France. What's this doing in the
right Brothers backpack? It's on the tip of my brain
like that happens to me a lot. To shake it
off the tip of your brain. Get it get get
it to the back of your brain where you can,
you can pull it in. All right, that's okay. It's
from when Wilbur demonstrated their plane in France and instantly
(09:33):
became an international superstar. He became so famous that copies
of his hat became the latest fashion trend known as
the Viba reed. You know there's a hat in France
named after me? Really there is, Yes, it's called the
b Ray good point. I shouldn't have asked. And that's
the end of our first game from The Best Baby.
(09:58):
Now let's fly on over to producer Jane for the scores.
Thanks Elliott, and happy brother's day too. I would like
to give a little shout out to my own brothers.
That would be Bugs, Bake Wheels, Boo boo and Moose.
All right, I'd also like to tell you the score.
I'll tied up one to one. Thank you, Jane. We
have to go to a short break. But while we're
(10:20):
doing that Be has a bonus question for our contestants
to think about. During the break, the Right brothers realized
that to design a working plane they had to solve
three specific problems. When we come back, our contestants will
get one bonus point for each of these problems they
can name, for a total of three points. So let's
(10:40):
get to the break so we can get back to
the game. Eric, please play us some airplane music overhead compartment.
(11:00):
Welcome back to the WHOS podcast. Today we're learning all
about the Ripe Brothers and the brothers Grim and now
back to your host, Elliott Kaylin. Happy Brother's Day, Elliott,
still not a real holiday v. Before the break, the
scores were tied. Trip and Dosi both have one point each.
But let's see if we can add to those scores
with our bonus question. Uh Be, can you remind me
what was that bonus question again? Okay? Before the break,
(11:23):
we asked the contestants that they could name three problems.
The Rpe Brothers decided they had to solve to design
a working plane. Okay, so Mosie is going to get
a chance to answer first. Trip, would you please remove
your headphones? Mosie, can you remember what were any of
the three problems that the Ripe brothers decided they had
to solve how to keep good plane flying, how to
(11:44):
make a working engine, and how to turn it. Yeah,
that's right. Now, let's get tripped back in here. They
needed a engine that would left. Uh wait, no, the
wings needed have left and engines need to hold him
up up and a light enough engine so it wouldn't fall.
You got two of them right. They needed the wings
(12:04):
that would lift them up, and they did an engine
to push it forward. And the third one was they
needed to figure out a way to steer and control
the machine and then when it was flying. But that
was great, that was great. They had those three problems
and they and it took them a lot longer to
figure it out than it took you. That's for sure.
That's true. And you know what I loved about all
those answers because they were all the right answers, because
(12:25):
they were the right brothers for the problems that they
were looking for. You know, because because there because their names.
That was hilarious, Thank you, thank you. But enough about
those brothers. Let's get right to finding out about our
other subjects from history. Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm with four
fast Facts pas Facts. Wilhelm Grimm lived from seventeen eighty
(12:49):
six to eighteen fifty nine and Jacob Grimm lived from
seventeen eighty five to eighteen sixty three. They collected and
published traditional German fairy tales told by ordinary people. They
were both university a philologist, which means the study of
language in historical texts. The third edition of their fairy
tale book was a huge success. It was the diary
of a wimpy kid of its time. So let's move
(13:13):
on to our next game. It's something we call Once
upon a Lie. The brothers Grammar best known for their
books of fairy tales. So in this game, we'll tell
you a fairy tale about them and you have to
tell us if it's true or a lie. And since
this is our second game, each question is worth two points,
(13:34):
So get ready for some questions in fairy tale form.
Trip Europe. First, take it away be once upon a Time.
Two brothers decided to collect all the magical stories in
the world, so they booted up their computer connected to
yield Internet and visited old German folk tales dot biz faults.
(13:54):
They did have computers at the time. That's right, it's
a lie. I appreciate your anger. Wow that we we
tried to pull one over on you and you would
not have it. That's a lie. They collected their fairy
tales from ordinary people like maids, nanny's soldiers, even children.
Good stories can come from anywhere. In fact, your average
old person has way more interesting stories than the lousy internet.
(14:15):
Next time you want to go on the Internet, just
go talked to an old person. Yeah, alright. This next
question is for ozy. Once upon a time, two brothers
decided to write the most magical book of all, a dictionary.
But the dictionary grew larger and larger and longer and longer,
and it wasn't finished for over a hundred years. Yep,
(14:37):
that's true. Jacob and Wilham tried to write the first
German dictionary, but it took them sixteen years just to
get part of the way through the letter B. In
the end, they only made it up to the letter D.
Other people eventually finished the dictionary in nineteen sixty, almost
a century after both brothers had died. Okay, and the
next question is for trips. Once upon a time, two
(14:59):
brave brothers were forced to leave their home by a
wicked king when they refused to cross out the names
of all the authors in the library and write the
king's name so that it would look like the king
wrote all the books faults. All right, that's a lie.
The King of Hanover demanded every professor sign a loyalty
oath to him. That's what he demanded. Yes, I studied
(15:20):
that page for hours. Do you remember what Jacob and
Wilhelm did. Did they sign that loyalty oath? No? They
would throw rocks in the professor's windows that didn't sign it.
Can't get bonus points. No, No monus points were thank
you for helping tell the story. Jacob and Wilhelm. They
took a stand for political freedom and refused to sign
that loyalty oath. So they were exiled from Hanover. Rocks
(15:40):
were thrown at them, they were kicked out of town.
But it made them heroes to people around the world. Okay,
and this last question is for Oz. Once upon a
time there was a man named Jacob who loved footnotes,
which are little messages at the bottom of the page
that explained something in the book. After a long day
of footnoting, his newest book, he laid down for a
pleasant slum, but when he awoke, he discovered that all
(16:02):
of his footnotes had disappeared, stolen by his wicked brother.
This is true. Jacob and Wilhelm disagreed about who their
fairy tale books were for. Jacob wanted them to be
for scholars who loved having words explained to them, but
ville Ham wanted them to be for kids who just
wanted good stories. And in the end, ville Ham one
(16:24):
based on the ancient law kids rule grown ups. True
true words were never spoken. And that's the end of
Once upon a Lie, and we all lived happily ever after?
Or did we? Let's find out. Producer Jane, what are
our Scots who at six points turned past seven? Thank you, Jane.
(16:49):
I'm now very excited to announce we have some very
special guests. The fairytale fanatics, the determined Germans, the brothers
from another fairy godmother, the Grim's courtesy of the who
was he was? You want to make in the first
is the gluten talk? I am Jacob Grim. Well, welcome
(17:15):
to the show, Jacob. But where's your brother Wilhelm? Doctor?
If we are not talking right now? Oh that's terrible.
Why not you work together so well on your fairy
tale books. I know, but we're writing the first ever
German dictionary and somehow researching the meaning and history of
every single chairman Verde. It isn't as fun as listening
to stories about the witches and gnomes. Who would have
(17:38):
guessed that. So, Jacob, what has Wilhelm been doing that's
getting on your nerves? Oh my god, fair to I begin.
He keeps borrowing my books and closing to the door
too loudly, and he's taking forever business work. You know.
He holds his fingers close to me, and he keeps
saying I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you, which
(17:58):
is technically true, he is not touching me, but still
it's so annoying. You know what, the maybe we should
have called the right brothers. They really loved each other.
Oh no, no, no, I am in this for the drama.
I love my bras too in some place. That's what
makes it difficult to work with him, because he's so
important to me that I want everything we do together
(18:21):
to be perfect. Oh that's so sweet. Being a brother
sounds hard. Happy Brother's Day, by the way, I appreciate
that you're welcome. It's not a real holiday. You know,
working together is also hard for these two Italian brothers.
I know, the Mario brothers. You say collect Italian folk tales.
Oh no, no, they're plumbers who save a princess from
(18:42):
a mean turtle king in a mushroom world. This sounds
like a fairy tale we need for the book. You
must tell it to me. Well, once upon a time
there was a magical land called Nintendo, where two brothers
of very heights had to work together with Mario educational value, Luigi,
(19:03):
why don't we go to a short breaking. If we'll
get to our final round, we'll find out who will
be our winner. Eric, please play us some footnote music.
Please mustache pages, don't wear shoes. You know Sally? Who
(19:25):
was there? Marie Curie? You may remember me from winning
multiple Nobel prizes, or perhaps from my episode of the
who wast podcast where I played myself. I wanted to
take a moment to read one of my favorite reviews
about the Who Was podcasts. This is from Shaken Bay
and it reads loved this. Me and my little sister
(19:48):
love this show more. Please, our faith is Ariet Toman.
If you want to hear your review right on the air.
Make sure to subscribe, like and review to the OAS
podcasts in the I had to write you up or
wherever you get your podcasts should let's day as we're
(20:11):
back on the Hula podcast. When we least left up,
OZI had six points and Trip had seven points. Now
back to your host, Ellie Kalin, Thank you be and
now it's time for our final game of the game,
Converge of Greatness. In this multiple choice game, we'll explore
(20:37):
how the lives of the Wright brothers and the brothers
Grim overlap are similar to each other or converge And
because we're in the third round, each question is worth
three enormous points. Are you ready? The first question is
for oz B take it away. The brothers Grim put
out multiple books, but the Wright brothers also dabbled in publishing.
(20:58):
Their first business together was a print shop. What did
they print? Was it a wanted posters for gun slingers?
Be their own newspaper as well as a newspaper for Dayton,
Ohio's black community. Or see the first phone book which
was only one page long and said nobody has a
phone yet Ya ding Nang's that's right. The answer is v.
(21:21):
As teenagers Boordville, will were put out a weekly newspaper
and a daily newspaper, and they helped their high school friends.
The poet Paul Dunbar put out a paper for Dayton's
black community. You know, what do you think if they
had stuck with printing, we'd be flying today in paper airplanes. Wow.
History's mystery. Yeah, to think of how different life would
have been. Okay, the next question is for trip Flying
their plane in France made the Right brothers famous, but
(21:44):
France also had a big impact on the lives of
the brothers Grimm. Was it because A They were inspired
to collect fairy tales after hearing a story about a
magic Beckett. B they were inspired to preserve German culture
after the French army took over their village. Or see
they were inspired to eat nothing but hot dogs after
(22:06):
they first tasted frenches mustard. Uh, yes it was b.
That's right. Napoleon soldiers invaded the Grimm's village of Castle
in eighteen o six and they stayed there for seven years.
It was a very difficult and dangerous time for the
people of Castle. Luckily, the Grimms like to stay inside
and read books all day, so that kept him out
of trouble Mosy. This next question is for you. The
(22:28):
brothers Grim relied on many other people to share fairy
tales with them. The right brothers also couldn't have built
their airplane all on their own. How did they get
help from others? Did they A asked the Smithsonian and
the Weather Service for advice on their experiments? Be compared
notes with other inventors working on developing flying machines. See
I lie, they did it all on their own with
(22:50):
no help from anyone. Or D they did both A
and B but not SID. That's right. The answer is D.
They got information government offices, and they were in contact
with other inventors who are also working on flying machines.
They never could have invented the airplane if they tried
to do it all on their own and refuse to
let anybody help them. It is very hard to invent
new things. And now our final question goes to Tripp.
(23:13):
Wilbur Wright was a star student, but Orville Wright hated school. Similarly,
when Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm were both professors at the
University of Hanover, Vilhelm was a popular teacher, but students
did not like Jacob. Why not? Was it because A
he didn't let students ask questions, b he gave too
(23:35):
much homework? Or see, whenever a student asked, can I
go to the bathroom? Jacob would reply I don't know,
can you and laugh at them? Hey, that's right. The
answer is a Jacob refused to let his students ask
questions in class. They just had to sit there and
listen to him talk on and on forever, stick to
the fairytale collecting business. Jacob teaching was not for you.
(24:06):
That sound means it's the end of the game, which
means it's almost the end of the show. But first,
while we wait for producer Jane to finish telling the points,
I've got some questions for the contestants. First, I want
to ask Mr Bruno, do you let your students ask
questions in class all the time? Okay, better teacher than
Jacob Graham. Great history will look kindly on you for
letting them ask questions. That's fantastic. Yeah, very anti Socratic
(24:28):
method that yeah, it's him and Socrates did not see
eye to eye. Also, they couldn't look at each other.
They lived thousands of years apart. Now I'd like to
ask you, contestants, what's something that you were surprised to
learn about the Right Brothers or the brothers Grim Trip.
Is there anything that jumped out at you or that
really surprised yours particularly interesting to you about either of
our brothers? To be honest, uh, I was very fascinated
(24:51):
on how they could stay like six hours a day
before school. I could barely study thirty minutes on these people.
So you were amazed at how much they study compared
to how much you can study. Yes, wow, that's fair.
But maybe they're an example for you to try to
live up to if you want to. Possibly, and Oz,
is there anything that when you were reading about the
Right Brothers or Brothers Grim that really either surprised you
(25:13):
or that really stuck with you, something that you found
really memorable? They created the airplane, That's true. That's it,
To be honest. They didn't do too much else besides
making and flying airplanes, but that's all you gotta do.
They found the thing that was really exciting to them
and they did it and nobody had ever done it before.
It's quality, not quantity, Elliott, exactly. Not everyone has to
be a Thomas Edison making lots of inventions. You make
(25:33):
one invention that's big enough, people will love you and
they'll buy hats that look like your hat. Mr Berno,
is there anything that that really jumped out to you
about either the Right Brothers or the brothers Graham. I
was amazed at how they used the bicycles to help
them invent their plane, and that they charged six for
a bicycle way back then. Must have been a lot
of money. Yeah, yeah, that'd be a great deal for
(25:53):
a bicycle. Now, thank you so much for your answers.
Now Here, it is time for the exciting conclusion of
our special Mother's Day episode. It's not real. Well listen,
Elliott got on board Trip. You'll get there eventually. You'll
get there somewhere. I was against Brother's Day two. You'll
you'll feel it. You'll get there eventually. Trip better feel
it because Trip one with thirteen points, Trip is our
(26:16):
winner today. Great job Trip, and great job Ozzie. You've
both played fantastically a trip as our winner. You have
ten seconds for shoutouts. Who would you like to thank?
I would like to thank my family. I would like
to thank my mom and my dad and essentially and
my sister, and I also would like to thank my
friend group. Thank you all. I'm saying thank you as
a member of your friend group. Yeah, be was one
(26:39):
of the friends that you were thanking. I assume right, Yeah,
I guess our winner and their library of choice where
we're receiving a selection of Who Was books, and I'm
going to give my own shout outs to interim Zach
Jane Kennie, Eric Chris Ferry for being our Jacob Grimm
and to be and a big thank you to both
of our contestants. Thank you so much to you at
(26:59):
home for listening. Next week, please come back to us,
we'll be learning who Was two more amazing people from history.
Until then, this is Elliott Caylin's way or the High
Whalen's Way, Calin saying we're history. Goodbye. Everybody got a
question for any of our famous figures, send us a
voice memo at the Who Was Podcast at gmail dot com.
(27:21):
It might just end up on the show. Who Was
Podcast is produced by a Radio Point, I Heart Media
and Penguin Workshop, based on the best selling Hugh h
Q series published by Penguin. The show is hosted by
Elliott Calin with co host Megan O'Neill as b and
also starred Jane Baker as producer Jane, Eric Shackney as Eric,
and Chris Ferry as Jacob Grimm. Executive producers are Richard Corson,
(27:42):
Alex Bach, Elliott Calin, Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder.
The executive producer for Penguin Workshop is Francesco Sedida and
the executive producer for iHeart Media is Lindsay Hawkman. This
show was written by Megan O'Neill, Elliott Caylin, Cannie Mobley,
and Jane Baker. It was produced by Bernie Kaminski. Are
talent producer is Jane Baker. The theme song and music
(28:03):
were composed and performed by Eric Schackman, edited and mixed
by Kate Moldenhower, and recorded by Joanna Samuels. Special thanks
to Zach Timpson, Charlotte Dianda, Daniel Goodman, and Michael Lewis Howard,
who was podcast was recorded at the iHeart Studios in
Los Angeles, California. Sound services provided by Great City Hosts
(28:23):
The Bus podcast because it's standard flavor
Popular Podcasts
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.