February 7, 2024 • 58 mins
Episode 4, Dwyane is joined by fellow Olympic Gold Medalist, one of the greatest ski racers of all-time Lindsey Vonn. The two discuss their knee injuries, multiple surgeries and Lindsey gives Dwyane rehab advice. Lindsey tells an amazing story of winning a cow in a race and why she kept the cow for years, she reveals the training regiment that got her to the elite level of ski racing, and why her kids will never fly private, but her dogs will! The two legends end with a discussion about "Premium" birthdays and what both of their "Why's" are moving forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
What's up? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome to the Y Podcast with Dwayne Wade today. I
am honored to be able to have someone I call
a friend, someone I admire, and someone who's one of
the greatest at what she does. Everybody, please welcome Lindsey Vonn.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Are you thanks for having you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
See how like calm that was? Now I want to
get to like the real time.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Okay, now we're getting serious. That was a nice easy
layup and now we're going straight n welcome you.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
To thank you for coming to my office.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I mean, what do you think about I love gold,
So I'm digging it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I know you are. Yeah, I know you are.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, We're gonna get to all your goal that you have.
But first, I like to always start off the interview
and I like to talk about the last time that
I seen my guests. And so the last time I
seen you was Art Basil, and I know why I
was out there. Let's talk about why you were out there.
Talk about why you were out there. What were you
(01:18):
doing in Art bas out there?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I live there now, I live in Miami. I mean,
I'm never anywhere. I'm literally the most I'm ever in
any one place per year is maybe one hundred days. Yeah,
like this year, I think I'm racking up one oh seven.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So why why why are you not anywhere?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Let's talk about keep up.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You know, it's a hard world out there, and I'm
just trying to keep up with d Wade that I am.
I'm not even like as much as.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I'm joking, I'm dead serious, your fucking boss. And you
know you're an owner of an NBA team and w
W n.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
A and the real Salt Lake and you know.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
You're anyway in your wines and all.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
These things, and I feel so insignificant. I'm just trying
to keep up with you. Okay, You're making me feel
you know, it's like this is like.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Because I knew you were coming and I was like listen, Lindsay's.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Coming and all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
These are new really, Yes, you were the first interview
in my office. This is the first time the trophy
has been up.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
That means a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, So I saw some our bads. I saw like
it was it like a baby blue range Rover.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Or something he was in front of.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, that was so I'm re sponsored.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
There we go. Okay, let's talk about your partnership and
my partnership in Miami. What did you what does it
consist of?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You go with Rolex, I was with land Rover.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You got a Rolex deal. You got a land Rover deal.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Ye, red Bull.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Dorsi Uh, I got my unique goggle company, my head
ski line, the Gucci colab last year.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And you got time to do what outside of that?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I'm just you know, I'm not an MBA or WNB
owner yet, so yeah, well I am.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I do own some little, tiny, minuscule piece of LAFC.
And also with you, we also like really yeah, so
you didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I did not know.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It's so big time.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I didn't even know the team Ryan invited you to
the like you know, opening the facility, and I was
not so.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So in your In all these partnerships that you have
that takes all your time away, what do they consist of?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Talk to us about like what do you do?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I mean I don't do any brand deals that I
don't believe in.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Or products that I don't use.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Is that just I should? True?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
No? I all my relationships are very long standing. So
I've been relexed since two thousand and nine, red Bull,
since I was like twenty years old, which you know,
we're not going to count how many years that is,
but it's a few. Under Omar, I was a pretty
much one of the first female athlete and the longest
standing athlete, almost twenty years with them. So I pick
(04:04):
brands that believe in me as much as I believe
in them, and I want to build like a long
lasting relationship.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Paid again, I picked brands.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So that was a bar right there, because most people
brands have to find them and come to them.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You said, I pick brands.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I mean, that's that's the level of Lindsay Barr right there,
You're picking brands.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm trying.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I mean, there's definitely, uh, you know, a lot of
years where I didn't pick the brands, but you know,
I think I was careful with my choices. Yeah, you know,
there's definitely, especially in the middle to the end of
my career, there's a lot of brands that are coming
at me with a lot of money, but they were
in line with who I was as a person, so
I didn't I didn't go with them.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So Lindsay and I we joke a lot, and we
have a great relationship where we joke on each other
a lot. And we talk about each other's accomplishments and
all these things. But in retirement, we retired around the
same same time.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Yeah, out to drunk and then drunk, you know, came back.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I had a lot of surgeries, You've had a lot
of We couldn't just go back.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, you're like bone on bone. I'm bone on bone.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, I'm bone both.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, like both knees one knee.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, I think both, but like one is really like
knee replacement, the other one is.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Because of the conversation, I.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Got your guy. I got a guy for the replacement
when you're ready years from now. Really no, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's well, would you get one early already?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I have a schedule for end of March. Yeah, I honestly.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I had a preparation surgery a couple of months ago
for the replacement, but it went really well. I did
some cleanup, got a lot of osteophytes, which is like
bone calluses out of there, and it feels pretty good.
So I'm going to get another injection on Monday and
we'll see.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So I'm glad you brought that up because I personally
know how many surgeries, like I mean, every time, like you've.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Had a CEO, you have MCO, you've had.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
All meniscus, You've had all the worst surges that you
can ever surge you can have. Yeah, but in the
midst of that, I still see you toss and tires.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I still see you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Going like like you get low, like I can't bend
my knee like that.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Like, so, what do you do in the midst of
your rehab?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
What makes your rehab so special where you still can
still be an athlete when I can't be an.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Athlete no more?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Did you do your rehab?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I mean maybe I didn't. What what what does your
rehab consist of?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Range of motion? That's like the number one thing I
still work on that today.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Like what like what kind of like what do you do?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I need to like jam it, like I need to
I need to jam my knee and make it bend.
You know, I do it every day. I straighten and
I bend it. I just move my kneecap around like
that stuff. If you don't continue to make if you
don't maintain that, a scar, tissue.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Build up and all that. That's what's up in my
knee like a scar.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
That's why I get clean ups all the time, because
it just keeps building and then you can't bend your knee,
and then you can't go as low as I can go.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I get cleanups, but you're not scared to go under
and get as many How many surgeries have you had?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I ha, stop counting after two hands, it's just why
I count.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And you're not scared to go under the knife and
get a cleanup. Like if you got to get it done,
you like, let's get it done.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Feel like I've got the best in the world making
me feel better every time I go in.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It is for a reason. I have a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I need it fixed. It's like, you know, you take
your car into the shop to get it tuned up.
I need to tune up. You know, I just happened
to be unconscious.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Well I'm getting tuned up though.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Why it's great. You sleep great?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You lose all your muscle masks, and let's talk about that,
okay from surgery.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
No, yes, you do, but cleanups, you don't lose that
much muscle mass. You got to do some eastim just
some literally just like quad activations holding for thirty to
sixty seconds, like easy stuff, honestly, really basic, but that'll
keep your tone. And also blood flow restriction is helpful
to like land with your feet up. No, like I honestly,
(08:11):
I didn't do it. I was when I was competing,
but I'm doing it now. It's like you, it's this
machine that kind of restricts your blood flow.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh yes, jump it up.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yes, so it helps maintain your your muscle mass. Okay,
so it's so easy things.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
But honestly, like I'm doing stuff the next day after cleanup, Okay,
you're going to the wrong people.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Man, Well I was.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I haven't had it since I've been done planned, but
we will talk about could clean up.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Honestly, it'd be like a thirty minute surgery and you'd
be you'd be pumped.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You still know the right person.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
So I don't know why you didn't call me.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Your Well, I should have called you because I remember
you had one of the ugliest accidents.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Was waiting for what was at the end of that day.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, it was just one of the uggest accidents ever.
And you tore a lot of.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Things, a lot of things, so many things.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Can we can we go back to that? I'm sorry,
go back there? Can we go back to oh?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Can you take us back there?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
What year was it?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Twenty thirteen was my first.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
It kind of set like that was the first domino
to fall, and after that it was like a series
of unfortunate events, a lot of surgeries, a lot of
a lot of injuries.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
But my first crash that was really bad. I tore
my MCL off the bone, which is hard to do.
My ACL and I had a tili plateau fracture. My
minisis was okay, some small small tears, but mainly the
big thing was the MCLA, so I had to repair
both of those. The MCL is one of the ligaments
(09:39):
that has the most blood flow, so it heals fast.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
But because it was off the bone, then it made
it more complicated. So it's a little nitty gritty, but
it took me a while and then I and then
I blew it out. Then nine months later again again I.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Had I had a brace on and everything.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I had done all the right things, but in ski
racing it's like one small little thing can go wrong
and you crash. You're in the fences and your legs
and like a pretzel.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So for everybody out there, if I didn't start off
saying it. I mean, Lindsay is one of the greatest
skiers of time. She's legendarius. Little girls right now growing
up with pictures and photos and everything of Lindsay bond
around their room, and even though she don't want that,
she's one of She's the goat. As we sit here today,
how do you get to the point where you are
(10:26):
not like, I ski one time and I'm never going
back again.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
How do you get open you didn't go skiing with
me the perfect exactly, I'm not going with you.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
No, I would help you.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
No, I don't believe that I would.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I would make fun of you.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I would also help you.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I would also help.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I got like, it's hard for me to break
with this bone on bone on his left in his
left knee. It's hard for me to do that pizza
thing they talk about.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh yeah that's the work.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah it hurts.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, we need to do a clean up and I'll
get your quads a little stronger and then we'll go
and I'll get you that right setup.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
No, No, I'm okay, I'm okay. Are you sure I
like to have you can.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Have your wine and then you you know, you'd be
loosened up, and then I'll give you that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I hate the gold.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I lost my glove, you lost your clothes like.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
The kid thing where it like, you know, snaps on
your jackets.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
It don't lose it, right, I.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Mean that is for everybody who's never skied before and
is not into it. It's one of the like it's
life threatening every time you come down here.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You could die here.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah you can die. You can die.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yet you could die, so you can die.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
How do you pick up a sport?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, how do you drive a car? Exactly? You could
die driving a car. You still drive a car.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, that was exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I know, right. I love skiing fast, like that's what's
excites me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Where did it come from?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I mean, honestly, I I love skiing because I just
love skiing. Like when I was a kid, it was
the only thing my family did together.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
We didn't go to the beach.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
We didn't you know, we didn't really have any money
for those kinds of things. So you know, we jump
in my grandfather's old suburban and we drive to Colorado
and we all go skiing. And you know, when I
start racing, I honestly wasn't very fast.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I just loved, you know, to do it. And then
I became better, and then I decided I want to
be in the Olympics. And then I started working hard
and I started really going fast, and then I really
loved it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
How do you go fast like you wasn't like for
me someone who don't know, I just think, if you're
going downhill, you're going fast.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
So it's kind honestly, it's kind of like driving a car,
like when you put your foot on the gas pedillo,
you're going faster. Right For me, I just point my
tips downhill and I go faster, like I can gauge
how fast I'm going or not.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
It's kind of like that.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And then the way I see, you know, when you're racing,
you see a line, it's very similar to a road
like a race like a Formula one track, where I see,
you know, the line that I want to take and
where I want to accelerate or decelerate, and you know
what I need to hit or avoid.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, okay, for everybody out there, I didn't. I didn't
do this in the beginning, so I want to make
sure I do it now. So in my wanting to
do a podcast and wanting to have conversations with people
that I am ironing the door and it's great. I've
been like changing it up every time, trying to figure
out and trying to find it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And in the midst of that, I've added a sideline
guy over here. His name is Bob Mittellus.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Say Barry White was over there, so we called him
the flown the wall. Even though he has a camera
looking at him right now, he will not be on screen.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
He's just a flower on the wall. He's a voice
that you will hear.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
But he's actually, you know, someone on the sideline that
I look at to help me maybe called time out sometime.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But also too, Bob has some great questions as well.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, so I'm gonna take this moment, Bob, what you
got for us as we take our first break?
Speaker 6 (13:59):
So when was the moment that you realized you were
going to be nice? Like, when was the moment you
realized you were going to be special?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I mean, I it was always my dream, right, you know,
when you have a dream to be professional.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
My dream is to be an Olympian.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I didn't think I was going to be anything other
than an Olympian and then once I made it to
the Olympics when I was seventeen, then it's you know, like, okay,
what's the next goal. It's kind of like your competitive
and you know, you want to be better every time,
and so it's, you know, one thing after the next,
and I just got better and better and you.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Know, winning more and more. And I didn't think I
was special.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I just loved what I was doing and I strived to.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Always be better and by the end that was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You think you can be great without loving what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Not truly.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I mean, I think I've met a lot of athletes
that are really good at what they do. Yeah, but
they're not great because they really don't have that like
deep inner passion and for it. And they could have
won so much more if they had that passion. And
I think it has to come. You know, a lot
of parents push their kids into sports, and you know,
(15:11):
again they're naturally gifted. They love to do it, but
they don't the passion's not there, and eventually they don't
like it. And I've seen a lot of athletes retire
way before their time because I just don't enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's a lot of things that can take the enjoyment out,
the love out when.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
You're a lot of things going through the journey, a
lot of things.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Your kids, you're like, oh, I want to I want
to be this, I'm going to be this. When you're
a kid, you say I'm going to be this something
like my son, you know, he say, oh, I'm going
to be an NBA. He no, it's no doubt about it.
Then you got to actually do the work to get
an NBA.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
One of the things I think is tough for kids
to understand is this notion of hard work. When kids
think they're working hard, they think, oh, I went to practice,
I worked with the.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Team, and I'm doing again and again.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
What did you do when you talk about hard work, like,
what was your resuremen?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Like, Well, I was one of those kids that I
thought I was working hard and until I realized that
it wasn't. You know, I think it's all I think
so much of life is based on your perception and
what you've experienced to make you think that way. And
so when I was younger, you know, I love skiing,
So I was the first one on the hill and
the last one off the hill, and I thought, that's
(16:36):
what that was hard work, That's what I needed to
do to be better.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And I did.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I got better, but then there was a point where
I wasn't getting better, and then other kids started to
get faster and I had to figure out, Okay, what
can I do now? And I realized that, well, I
wasn't really working that hard in the gym. I was
doing what I was told to do, but nothing more.
And so I had this kind of come to Je's
(17:02):
with my dad and he's like, you need to figure out,
you know, what you really want. And so we actually
got a loan from my ski company to hire a trainer.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I went to Monaco. I know it sounds really fancy,
but it was absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It really sounds fancy I had. I had a Polish
trainer who I was sharing a one bedroom apartment with
with him and his girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They gave me the bed and they slept on the couch.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I spent two summers there and parts of the winter.
It was hell on earth. It was like military camp.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
How were you?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I was seventeen eighteen part of nineteen, and I mean
it was like tearing you down to build you back
up kind of thing. And what I thought was hard
work was so far from it. And he showed me
like how far I could push my body and after
that moment, it was like nothing could be as hard
(18:05):
as this.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
He gave me.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
This shitty old bike that had like two gears and
he would drive behind me as I had to climb
up the mountain and he wouldn't let me stop like
it was like you know, you know, don't give her
water like it was. It was pretty aggressive. I'm not
gonna lie, but.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It was like Rocky serious.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
It was like run until run until I tell you
to stop, And I'm like, what does that mean? Can
I stop now?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And you did it because you loved it.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Because I wanted to be better and I knew it
was either I do this and I get better, or
I do this, I don't and I quit.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You know, those like the only two options. And he
was the best at the time.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
He coached a lot of great champions and they were
also in the gym with me at the time, so
I got to see what they were doing, and uh,
it opened my eyes. It changed my perspective. It changed
how I viewed working out, a changed how I viewed,
you know, myself and what I'm capable of and that
those types of moments really help you dig deep when
(19:05):
you have hard times. You know, Okay, I've been through worse.
I can get through it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh yeah, I remember I was telling him. This was
later in my career. Were playing in Toronto in the.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Playoffs and we had it was game four and we
end up going into overtime. Anyway, I was tired. I
was so tired. I had nothing, right, I thought I
had nothing. And it was a moment on the court
where I saw my trainer sitting in the seats that
I had my course I seats, and I looked at
him and he looked at me. In my eyes, there
(19:38):
was no word said. But when I looked at him,
I just saw all the work that I put in
over the summer, like all the all the climbs, all
the stairs, all the early five am wake ups. And
I was like, you do have more? Yeah, And I
ended up having thirty eight and so far and so on.
You know, yeah, but like more came from that, right,
And so you find that inner from your work.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Really, I'm from here right from your work. So I
definitely understand it.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, you get it.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
One thing I know.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
About you in our time of becoming friends. Is family
is important. Family is very important to you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And I know your sister Car shout out the car,
She's amazing. But I've talked to Carr about, like, you.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Know, in the joking way, I'm like, so, how did
Lindsay get so much better than your own?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Man?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
She's like, I could have.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Been, I could have so why Okay, So y'all grew
up as a family. You grow up. Car is in
the skiing and the whole family. This is something y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
How is that when you go from you know, some
of y'all like doing some of the family do to
old Lindsay's getting better.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I mean, I'm so I'm four years old than Kren
and I'm six years old on the triplets, the youngest
three are triplets. And it was definitely something where we
all skied growing up, and Karen, I and my.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
One brother Read were the only ones that actually liked racing.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
And my dad likes the joke that Car and I
we eat raw meat for breakfast like we're hungry, We're
we're going to seize every day, and the others, you know,
not as much. So, you know, me and Carr are
definitely on like another level competitively, you know. And so
for some reason, when we moved to Colorado, she made
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some friends and decided that she didn't want to race anymore.
She went back to Minnesota head and skied in like
four years and then was stay champed.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So and she's like, oh, shoot, I should have kept up.
I might have made Yeah, And then I was like,
you know it was and so she hangs on to that.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Also, my dad likes to say that she was more
talented than I was. I think he likes to just
jab me a little bit, like I.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Worked hard, but she was more talented.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, yeah, but you know I'm here, So that's the
that's the.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
That's that's the right there. Oh yeah, we love each other.
But I could still beat them on the mountain. They
all know that. Yeah, my brother thinks he can, but
they cannot.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So who's the coolest person you've been on a mountain with?
Like when you was like, I can't believe I'm out
here with this person.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
I mean a lot of people like Whitney Wolf heard
she's a boss bone and bumble tender.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Okay, she's young, boss young. I love entrepreneurs.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I think it's so hard to do what she's done,
and she rips. She's a really good, really shocking. She
is like a four year old kid or three year old,
and he is like I would be shocked and amazed
if he wasn't like a champion skier one day.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but as a
one time skier, what I did not appreciate is send
them three year old, four year old, five year old
kids skiing down at the Dumby.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
They can crash and be literally a pretzel on They're fine.
You just give them some hot chocolate and send them
on their way.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So, Bob, I'm skiing that's and I'm going down. I'm nervous.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean, my whole life is flashing it every second,
and I see these young kids just flying by me,
and they I think they felt like they were laughing
at me like I felt. I think when I was
holding a dog like it was insane and I was
sitting there trying not to like.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Get nothing to lose my life, and these three year
olds just flying down. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Oh I did I did ski with Eli Manning?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Was that cool?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It was indoors in the ski dome in New Jersey
at the dream.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It was not a dream. Skiing indoors is not a dream.
Why not, It's just not it's you're in a freezer.
It's a man made freezer. Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It's not a dream.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
No, but it was funny. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I I like skiing with people like I know you
don't want to ski with me, but you really should.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
We would have a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I'm not I don't I don't stress like I'm not
a I'm not gonna nitpick you. I will make fun
of you, obviously, give me just get up, don't give
you lessons. And then once you were sufficient, then I
would make fun of you. I would give you I
would I would it be soft, like you know.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You still have your place in Utah.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, okay, I told you.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
We'll talk about this offline. Maybe one time I'm in.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Utah and we think about taking lessons.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Okay, let's do it all right, Yeah, okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I'm not so.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Obviously, I have all these trophies back here, Like I said,
I even try to shign them for you.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
They're they're very shiny, and they're large. I think basketball
does a better job of trophies.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And ski But yeah, I mean we're you know, I
don't know, we just need to ship. I know, we
need to show something I don't know what is. But
you are not a stranger to winning. Talk to me
about your obsession because I know it became an obsession.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
So was it your first one?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, upset?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, so was it when you forgot to first win?
You became obsessed? So, like, what was your obsession to win?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Anywhere?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
To start? I mean, I actually really liked winning when
I was a kid.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Because I was probably like ten eleven and I was
beating kids that were like fourteen fifteen. I was beating
all the kids that made fun of me, and I
really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I don't I didn't. I didn't talk much when I
was younger. I just didn't you know.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Again, I was racing with kids that were a lot
older than me, and at that age, you know, there
was such a social gap that I didn't I didn't
know where what my place was, and so my place
was skiing fast and so when I won, that gave
me like a seat at the table. So that's when
I really loved it because that was my way of
being like different and cool.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I was on there you are, you're different and cool.
I mean, none of us are that cool until we
become different and cool. Like I wasn't cool until I know,
walk with.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Three theres probably always cool.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I was like real square and real quiet and real
nerdish but not nerd like smart nerd, like just.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah that was to himself.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, not cool at all.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I don't believe that entirely.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But okay, sports sports helped me become.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Okay shell. Yeah yeah, that's that's I don't know if
I ever came really out of my shell, but but
I definitely found my confidence, like a lot more confident
because of winning. Yeah, I don't know, I.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I think, you know, it became It only became an
obsession when it was on the bigger stages, and I
liked trying to one up myself, Like it was kind
of like a bet I made with myself, like how
many can you win?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
You know, what's the next one?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And so you're competing against yourself. I mean I know
this competing against the field.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Of course, it was always me against myself because there
was no one harsher.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
There's no harsher critic than myself.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I feel like you're very very hard.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, well yourself, but not on other people, just on myself.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's on yourself. Yeah yeah, just yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Apread show with everyone else. I just I expect a
lot of myself.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It probably comes from like my family and my grandparents
and my parents, and probably need to go to a
psychologist for that. But yeah, I'm hard on myself. That's
for another time. This is another person. That's for another book,
another book called The Inside My Head that you don't
want to I don't want to be in there.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So how many medals and how many awards? Like what
do you have? Like I can say, oh, I have
three champions I have three NBA championships, I have this,
I have that.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
How many you have? Do you even know how much?
How many medals and trophies and all you have?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Well?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I can so I have eighty two World Cup wins
and twenty titles, But I can't tell you how many titles.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Or what we did?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You say? You said eighty two?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
What weld Cup wins?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Eighty two World Cup wins? And you get a metal
for all those things or you get a trophy for
those things?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You get money? What'd you get? Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Not much money? I say that not like the NBA.
Definitely not like the NBA.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Each race is different, so they decide like I've gotten
the most random things.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I've gotten a cow, live cow, I know, and I
actually moivated me. I was like, there's a.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Cow in the finishing milk and I'm going to fucking
win this cow the cow milk Like yeah, it was
a special French cow from this very particular part of
France that makes a very particular cheese. And so I won,
and you know, they there's this whole prize ceremony and
they're like okay, and here's a check and some cheese
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and and there it was like a promo deal and.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'm like, check is cheese? By the way, Check there
was a fifty fifty kilo wheel of.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Cheese and a check cheese. Think too disgusting.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Try putting it in your car travel The smells bad
and then your skis get make it wet and it's foul.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, somebody should be some cheese before Nick got to
my cream.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah, it's not a good gift. I'd save that. So
it's a really story. Okay, So I got the cow.
So and in the end I had to negotiate to
get the actual cow, because.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Here's my thing. Cows are worth a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
That cow is worth between eight to ten k and
they were gonna give me like a five hundred dollars check.
I was like, no, first of all, that's a good
looking cow that makes really good cheese, so and it's
worth a lot more than this.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Five dollars check. So I negotiated.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I got my cow and she was pregnant, so I
got a two for one yep. And then that might say,
and then my friend who has a farm in Austria,
because you know, why wouldn't I have a friend that has.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
A farm in Austria, And he said he'd take my cow.
So then, of course cows, you know, they make money
off the cheese. So he started, you know, having more
cows with my cow, and I had a lot of
cows by the end of my career. And then I
want another cow later on, So I ended up having
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like eight cows.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So Lindsay has a lot of cheese. Everybody, I'm just yalking.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's a really sad story. So when I retired my
last year, I was I called at my farmer friend
and I said, hey, listen, I would love to come
see the cows, and he said, lindsay, they only last
ten years. It was so sad. I was so traumatized.
And he's like, and also I switched to sheep.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Because of the only last ten years.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, more money in sheep.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I guess I've never thought I was going to hear
a sad cow.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Now you're sad.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I was sad.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I know, but there's still one left. It just lives
in France. She never went to Austria. Okay, Sonny, I
named a cow after my sister, after car.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
She did not like that. No, she was not happy.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So how did you deal? Okay? Moving on from from
you asked what I got? Real quiet?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It's a lot different.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
We celebrated Champagne, the milk and cow. So you really
have been in the beginning stages of like building.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Ski.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
You're like, yeah, yeah, I definitely are.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
You're going to be presenter one day and the person
that you're going to presented is gonna be making millions
off of the race. You're gonna be like, I have
five hundred dollars in a cow, what's my Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I don't know if the millions will ever happen, but
you know, definitely there, I hope.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So instea, can you invest in the team?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You can't?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Well, actually I could. The US team is privately funded,
but I don't know. Oh, maybe invest in another soccer team. Okay,
but a mentor. They got plenty of money.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
They're good.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It's more of the prize money.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
It's not about so if you give money to the organization,
you're helping them with like training and you know, flights
and all that stuff. You're not actually helping an individual athlete. Like,
I need to change how ski racing is in the media,
like on TV. Last year it wasn't even shown on television. Yeah,
So like how are you supposed to How is any
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athletes supposed to make money if your sport's not on television?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Is it an expensive sport?
Speaker 5 (32:11):
It's so expensive.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
And also there's weather.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
You know, if you if there's a snowstorm and you
can't have a race, that's three million dollars right off
the bat, just for one day.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
So there's no basketball games getting.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Canceled, Well, no sound in the bubble.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
COVID, Yeah, you guys made a bubble that's yeah. Yeah,
but indoor indoor sport, I know, I got it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, so how did you deal with you know, obviously
you started skinning because you know some that you're in
your family. Did you end up getting a love for it?
You end up becoming good? You end up and then
at some point you.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Became like this beautiful skier Lindsey Vaughn, Like, how did
you deal with that? Like s Newdy, how did you
deal with that?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Like it was just about your talent, it was also
about your looks.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Was that a thing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I mean it was weird.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I think it was around the time that I won
the Olympics that kind of how was twenty ten, like
how things kind of shifted in the media, like how
they portrayed me. And also I mean it didn't like
really help my cause that I was in the swimsuit
issue either.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
But you know, but you know, whatever's life.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Just I did what I did, so I don't regret it.
But you know, it was like there are things like
I was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, for example,
and I was in a skiing position and it was
the same.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
It was like a kind of a.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Redo of a male skier who was on the cover
like twenty five years before that, and all of a sudden.
I was on the O'Reilly Show talking about my sexual
position on the cover of Sports Illustrated, which was my
ski position. I'm like, why is this a conversation? And
it's exactly the same thing. This is how this is
my sport. Why why is this a conversation? Because like,
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I get, you know, there's two sides of it. You know,
I get swimsuit and whatever. You know, if I'm in
a magazine, that's that. But you know, if you're taking
my sport and you're sexualizing my sport, that's a whole
nother thing.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
And I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
You know that that line got really blurred, and I
think that's what the only thing that really bothers me
was that, like, respect my sport and what I'm doing,
and if you want to criticize me for other things,
go for it.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
But you know, there's a line are.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You okay with? Like how do you handle that? Like
do you come out and say it?
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Like I don't know if you know me, but I
do speak my mind.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
It's kind of a problem sometimes I don't really hold back.
And I think that's one thing that has both hurt
me and helped me. I mean, I am who I am.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I've never been shy about, you know, saying if I
agree or disagree with something. You know, I try not
to talk about politics because I did that once and
that really did not end up well. But you know,
I I'm always going to speak my mind. So if
I have a problem with something, you'll you'll know it.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Oh well, I know all about it, Bobby, anything was it?
Were you always like that?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Like that come about if you're just starting to speak
in mind.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I just think I'm really stubborn. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I I'm stubborn in my ways, and I I have energy.
I'm you know, I like I'm living. I you know,
he ask me how I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I'm gonna tell you how I'm feeling. You know, I don't.
I don't see the reason in like holding that part back.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I think what I have realized now and kind of
this phase of my life is that there are definitely
things that I need to just keep for myself and
my family, Like I don't need to share everything on
social media or you know, say everything that's on my mind,
although sometimes I do like a little filter like would
be nice sometimes, but I'm not great at that. So
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I think it's like, I don't know, I just I don't.
I don't I don't like hiding. I just am who
I am, and you know I can't change that.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Do you think as now as you know, you're obviously
moving into being a business woman, like fully, do you
think that you get the respect when you walk into
rooms of being a businesswoman or are you still looked
at as this athlete or you still or you think
you looked at as this beautiful woman walking in what
do you It's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I think some rooms people have no idea who I am,
and I have a normal business conversation and by the
end of an hour they figure out who I am,
and they're like, oh shit, you know, but I really
enjoy having a normal conversation with someone as if I'm
just a regular person, like as I am, right without you.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Know, a predesigned idea of who I am. Yeah, And
then there's definitely people that you know, meet me and
they they're excited because they think I'm a pretty skier,
you know, or just that I'm a skier, and then
they realize, oh, I actually have something to say, I
actually have knowledge, and I'm you know, not just a skier.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
You have knowledge.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I have knowledge. Drop some knowledge bombs every once in
a while, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I mean again like I have a lot to learn,
But I think you know, I've done pretty well for
myself and made kind of something out of nothing, you know,
in my sport.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So is it anything that you did not accomplish in
your sport that now that we're retired, as you sit
back and was like, if I would have just.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I mean, there's obviously the record there's one guy that
had more wins and nighted, but those records were broken.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So you know, one guy, by the way, not one lady,
one guy, one guy.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
One guy. I think you know I did the best
I could. I talked to Roger Fetter about this, and
I you know, it was like.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I squeeze a lemon dry. There's nothing left that I
could have given. Did I make mistakes?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I mean you know, if I if I started my
career now with everything that's available, I think I would
have been able to ski a lot longer because just
everything is different. Recovery is different, you know, the way
we train is different, nutrition is different.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
But I had what I had.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
I played the cards that I was dealt, and I
don't think I could have done more with it than
I did.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So I don't have any regrets. Life's too short for regrets.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
So let's get to your life now. Like when I
see you now, besides when I see you on private jets.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
And you want to talk, when I see you with
your dogs.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
The only time fly private is with my dogs.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I was trying to get to.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
You know, you just had to you know, to yourself
when I'm fly private.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
No, I I.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Would save every penny for my dogs, like I and
it sounds silly, and you know, obviously I would love
to have kids, and I will one day. But right
now I have three dogs and they're getting older. One
my oldest in particular, I lost one almost two years
ago and it was like so traumatizing.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Dogs are. They're very special. So I will give every
last penny. I have to have my dogs with me
as long as I can.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
And do you think they're preparing you for being a
parent's case, I'm screwed.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Well, I mean they're like kids.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Well, my kids are not flying private. Just to be clear, my.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Dogs, well, I tell you that.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I'll tell you that right now. Maybe when they're younger
and they don't realize it. Yeah, they realize it.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Going through.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, they're in the back. Yeah like I was.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I Lily have.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Food in New Zealand next to the toilet and roll
like seventy five. They can do it. Okay, it's possible.
We can do hard things.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
But your dog's private. I'm just going to turn it
out there.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Okay, but your kid is not. No, and you ain't
had no wine before we started his interview. And one
just for the record to be shown, Lindsay does not
want to drink any of my wine because she is
family in world.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yes, I know she would not love scroll.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, you would not. You don't know to drink my wine.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
And on my podcast, you know I love you and
I I Wigh Cellars, great wine. If I drink wine,
I drink Way Cellars, but I drink tequila.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Oh shit, this is this is unfiltered.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
What happens when you when you have a Way cellar?
I don't know what that does. Motorcycle vest on this.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Can I talk about this real?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
It's a motorcycle jacket.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So when I first got it could be a lot
of things.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Yeah, rustic.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
So when I first got into the wine industry, right,
and no, I wasn't even in the wine industry. When
I first went to NAPA for the first time ever
to go and do wine tastings, the first gentleman that
I ran into was wearing one of these.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
He was wearing one of these. He was a black story.
It was a black man.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And you know, if you know anything about wine, especially
if you know anything about wine, but if you know
anything about Nap as well, like you don't see a
lot of black people into wine. And so I pull
up and I first person to open the gate, and
it's a black man and he's wearing one of these,
and I'm like, wait, who are you? Yeah, And I
got a chance to build a relationship with him and
all these things. But I say that to say, I've
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always wanted one of these. And so when I started
my own wine label.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I got me one right here. I like it, yeah,
you know, yeah, a little branding, I like it, little swag.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
No, it's great, seven level of seventeen oh seven. It's
better branding. But it's okay. It's a wolf. You know,
you got the three stripes. That's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Though, Well, jumping here because we.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Get off topic.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
But so I wanted to understand as far as like
when you see another athlete, like they both got gold medals.
Is it a situation where you see another athlete, It's
like like a like in the movie Wall Street where
its sharks, he's another shark when you see another great athlete?
What does that feel like to you? Guys, we all
see each.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Other, It's cool. I feel like we're in a club. Yeah,
I'm like finally at the cool kids club.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
You know, because there's a respect that we all have.
We understand to get here, what you did to get here. Yeah,
we have a respect.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I like the respect because it's not something that's given.
It's definitely earned, definitely. But it's such a small group
of us that I don't know, it feels it feels
pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, no, I do. I like. I mean the ones
that are cool, Yeah, let's go there. The ones that
are not, they're not the ones that are like.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
A cool We're not going to talk about this, but
there's a couple that you know, they're in their own club.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
I like being a part of it.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I honestly, I've been like it's kind of an individual
sport even.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Though we are part of a team. But I like
being the team.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I mean, it's it's as symbol as when when Lindsay
and I, like as our friendship built, was at the
aspects when we kind of like, you know, our friendship
started to build, and it was it was really just
out of respect. It was like her in Gronk. Yeah,
we all had accomplished great things in our own sport.
You know, obviously we were moving to something else. But
the way you were able to build relationships with people
and you respect them is because one I knew just
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from the stuff that I heard about Lindsay without knowing
all the things, is I knew I was like, yo,
this this athlete to do all the things and accomplished
what she's accomplished in the sport that she's accomplished in,
Like her mental has to like you know what I mean,
Like I'm already going her mind. I'm like, her mind
has to be so strong, she has to be so this,
she has to be so that. So it's a respect
that goes into knowing like what it took for you
(44:02):
to get on this stage where I am, because I
know the dark knights and the times I talked to
myself to get on this stage as well, you know,
And so yeah, it feels good to have relationships with
people that you respect at that at that extreame day.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
And I think it's also to like different generations, like
you know, even you know, older athletes, like there's always
that level of respect because again, you know how hard
it it takes, like what it takes to get there.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, so yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
When you are not in a room, what do you
hope that people say about you.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
When you're not in a room?
Speaker 1 (44:38):
What are the things that asking question behind?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Just did I left the room better than the way
I found it? Like I always want to.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Be it's cooler when you leave, Like what do you
mean by that?
Speaker 6 (44:49):
No?
Speaker 4 (44:49):
I mean so when I think about my mom, like
she was always this you know, incredibly positive person. It
was like this light that she had and no matter
how shitty er day is, she always made me feel.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Better, Like I want you to feel better. I didn't drink
your wine.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
But making me feel that, Like you leave in my
office and I.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
I said, I drink Way wine. Way sellers, you know,
And that's I'm promoting. Always promote my friends. You know,
I got you so, but that's what I place.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah, I hope I love skiing in a better place
than I found it.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
You know, I hope that I, you know, whatever whatever
I do in the business world, same thing. And you know,
when I invest in in sports, I'm investing mainly in women,
you know, and I want to make it better or
somewhat easier for them than it was for me. You know,
I don't, like, I don't promote skiing just to promote myself.
I do it for the sport, you know, Like, of
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course there's you know, there's our business, but ultimately I.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Want to leave it better than when I found it.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
And you know, I was inspired by by my idle
Peeaboo Street and you know, she triggered that chain reaction
of me following my dream. So how many people can
I positively affect like she did for me. That's what
I want to do, create a ripple effect that lasts
a long time, a long time. But you'll probably talk
shit about me when I leave, So it's fine.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
I mean, I'm definitely gonna do it, but I also
big you up to at the same time, like I
do both. One of the things that actually how we
even get to this point that we hear is the
fact that I remember one of the first after the
spis one of the first times we talked out the
words you talked to me about. It was an investment
opportunity I don't know if you remember, and you sent
(46:31):
it over like head to something that you and you
want to do.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I thought that was so cool. It was so dope.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
It wasn't like, like, you don't get a lot of
people who are up and doing something that want you
to be a part of it. Yeah, not not in
the where I come from. Not in sports, I get you,
Not in the sports I come from.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
That's not how Yeah, that's not how I operate. But
I've had that for most of my career.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
There's been situations where there's been opportunities and because someone
didn't want me a part of it, they shut it down.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
And I never want to be that person.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
If there's an opportunity that I can give to others,
like I want to I want you on on the deal,
like I want all of us to make money, you know,
I want to build something great with new companies or
support other people.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
You know, that's that's my jam. I'm not like, I
don't need to hog all everything for myself planning to
go around.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I always say, like I don't want to eat at
a table bout myself. It's long, now, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Like, who wants to.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Be sitting there cutting up steak by theyself for no
one to talk to? You don't want to no want
to share things with none, you know, and so like
I want a whole table full of people who.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
I don't want to talk to my dogs, just my dogs.
That'd be weird.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I feel like one of your private jed is just
you and your dogs. I mean, I'm just gonna I
believe that where it is. I don't know, it might
be before I get to my last question.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
You got anything else?
Speaker 6 (47:46):
I don't know, just kind of like not that I
both in both retirement. What's like some of the biggest
and coolest things you're doing retirement now?
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yeah, again, I'm just trying to keep up with him.
So it's it's hard.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Literally, I I'm still building off of what I started
in skiing, you know. I think it's been just this
constant evolution of you know, brand partnerships and investments. And
I start investing, you know, while I was still racing,
but not to the degree in which I would have
liked had I known more at the time. But you know,
(48:21):
it's just like we're building, you know, I'm building in
the investment side and now in a sports fund with
with Avenue Capital, with Strahan and Kandice Parker and thanks.
I'm really excited about it. But it's it's an evolution
of just building, and I don't know where it'll get to.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
I don't know what my goal is honestly.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Ultimately, I just want to make everything I touch better
and and then hopefully be able to sustain myself and
my kids for a long time and my dogs and
their private jets.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Only the dogs.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
For me, when I was getting thinking about retirement, actually,
Kobe was doing amazing in retirement and so for me
when I was getting ready to retire, I was like, cool,
I won't be able to reach out to Cole. I'll
be able to ask him anything about like TV production,
about investing all the things that he was doing, and
(49:21):
he was doing it at the same level that he
was playing at, Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
It wasn't like he was just doing he was doing
it at the same level.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
And unfortunately, when we lost our brother, I felt like
I became a leader in retirement for athletes.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, right, And you literally hit the ground running.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Hit the ground running.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
And even before that, though.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Even before Kobe, you you definitely were on like a
different trajectory and you've taken retirement to a totally different level.
And I think that's like why you know we connect
a lot, is because you know, we're we're we see
things in a different way.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
We want to go to different places.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
I'm not content with just living off of my accolades,
like this is great, but it's not who we are.
You know, There's so much more that we have to
give and that we strive for. So you have definitely
led the way in retirement and I honestly sincerely look
up to you.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
So but don't don't don't take that run with it.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Well, I've tried, and I felt that I felt like
I like I knew when I was retiring, I needed
someone that was doing it to show me, like, man,
you could still reach a certain level of retirement and
it looks a certain way, and you know the way
Cod was doing it. And so in my retirement, I've
tried to do that. And even if someone reaches out
(50:39):
to me, if they don't, I know they're watching. Everyone's watching,
and so you know what I've tried to do is
I've tried to continue to push the envelope.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I tried to show people that it.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Can look different, it can be different, it can feel,
you know, whatever way you wanted to feel, because like
I do all the things, I'm an owner of a team, right, well,
not an owner, I'm a governor.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Not even a governor. I'm like a small monory.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Just accept that I'm a small but also taking my
shirt off all the time.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
You do.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah, it's a lot sometimes I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
I mean, it's just it's like.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
My algorithm says that, yeah, that people gonna they're gonna
with my posts.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
I mean, yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
I don't know, Like it's like even on the red carpet,
just like the Wade shirt comes off.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
It's just it's kind of like those those requests your
wife wants.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
To request, algorithm, Well, you probably don't have to do
what she has to say.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, yeah, but I try to show them that, like
you can do different who you don't. You don't have
to look like this, like I throw a suit on
and not be in this meeting, but also.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
To out there better than mine, so you can do
things different.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
I believe in you color your hair, yeah, you want,
you want?
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, that's how I roll.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Good. So to get you out of here.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
When I started a podcast, you know, I talked about
the name of the podcast called The Why, And I
think that's a very important question, especially what we are
in life. You are eighty four, baby, so you'll be
turning big. Ye're coming up, so we don't need to talk.
Leave it.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
I'm already over it, like I'm turning forty two.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
On the other side. Is it good?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Great, it's great in the forties, it's so good. No
one knows that eighty four.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Some people can't count. It's okay, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Actually, I have somebody who I work with that really
runs like my business and she's not a good counter.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
So I understand that exactly.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
So the question is, at this point, you've accomplished so much.
I mean, to me and to so many others. You
are a legend, and you are konic in so many ways,
and you're doing so many incredible things. But as we
sit here and we're turning next year, that that premium.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Number is premium. That's a good way to say, that's a.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Premium number that we're turning right, a very important part
of our life, right, we want to get to that
number from where you sit here and where you're going
before your birthday comes?
Speaker 1 (53:05):
What would be your why? What is your why going forward?
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Like we know your why as a kid, how you
got to this place, and once you get to that space,
out of all the accolades and all the success, all
the business opportunities endeavorsit you in, what is your why
going for?
Speaker 3 (53:21):
I mean going forward is a hard question because I
think I'm still figuring out my why. Like I am
someone that.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
Always works hard, and I always have worked hard, and I'm
trying to figure out how do I put that into
a passion because I'm doing so many things right and
nothing is really engaging me in the way that scheme.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Can it right?
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (53:44):
Okay, but I'm still not going eighty five? You know,
Like investing is fun at all, but like I'm not
risking my life.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Like when's an investment don't feel good? It's like, oh, okay,
you gotta get.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
An email exactly, it's not you know, you're not You're
not getting anything tangible from it, and so you know,
I don't know I I think I'm still in search
of my why.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
I guess, and I'm actually proud of that. You know,
I it's an evolution, you know, I'm still evolving. I'm
still learning, I'm still growing. I don't know where that's
going to take me. You know, life is crazy, it
can be amazing, it can be very difficult. But I
know that I'm here. I'm enjoying every second. I woke
(54:24):
up every day thankful that I'm here. And where that
takes me, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
So you put pressure on yourself right now to do,
to accomplish, to become.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Are you just riding a wave?
Speaker 5 (54:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (54:36):
I always put pressure on myself like I you know,
if I'm if I say I'm going to do something,
you know, I expect to do it, and I have
those high kind of expectations.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
But I don't.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
I'm not as self critical as I used to be.
But I'm working on that. That's the different. That's that's
a that's a therapist question.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
That's okay. Once you get to TVD to the premium.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
You probably answer us already in your other podcast.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I've never no one has ever in my other podcast,
no one has asked me my wife you're the first person.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
What is your why in your premium? You're coming up?
Speaker 1 (55:13):
You know what's crazy? I asked you that question. I
never thought about myself.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Well I'm here to ask you.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
You know, I.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Guess my why To sum it up, and I be
long wind, that would be to make sure that whatever
I'm doing is what I want to do. And you know,
we go through life a lot and you have so
many people who you know obviously there to assist you
and help you, you know, to accomplish things you want to,
but you know you wanted to be you. You wanted
to feel like you. And so my why every day
(55:41):
is to is to wake up and to find, you know,
find that what is that? Who do I want to be?
Because it changes all the time, and so you know,
but I want to make sure that whatever I'm doing
in life that it feels like me when you see it,
you smell it, when you hear it. That's the a way.
And so my wife is to find myself from these
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forties on, we.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Don't say that number. From premium on forty one, from
premium on, from premium, I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Premium yet signing from premium.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Premium on premium. Just say premium on premium.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, everybody right here on the podcast creative thing.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
So, Lindsey, I have this book that was sent to
me and I opened it up very excited.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
I was like, oh, Lindsay sent me.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
To be clear, you sent me your book that was
not signed.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Also, oh, that's what we're doing now. I know what
car it just just to feel like you're telling us.
Speaker 4 (56:37):
Now one day when I have a podcast, I'm going
to have you on with your unsigned book and I'm
going to force you to sign it on on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I'm getting it signed on the podcast, everybody.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
And this is this is something that I did not
bring over here today because you were coming.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
This is something that stays in my office.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
I got books of great athletes and people that I
adore the myer and so I will love if you
will be able to sign this.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
I will sign your I have my book for you.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I have a shop before you.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
It's not gold. It's kind of funny, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
No, Okay, don't be calling me all like, listen, okay,
we're on the budget.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
We retired the.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
Way and you're so premium.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
I almost said, we didn't, we didn't we just started
something on the podcast Baby on premium.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
How do you premium premium? That means that maybe forty plus.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
No, it's just premium plus premium plus.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
It's exactly. We just coined something. You trademark that before
me all be really mad.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Well, let's do it together, get together, Okay.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
Plus weed and Downhome Gold Enterprise Inc. We just trademarked
in so you can't steal it. All right, it's done,
all right, official.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
There we go. Lindsey Va, thank you for being on
my podcast. Thank you appreciating Yes, love
What's up? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome to the Y Podcast with Dwayne Wade today. I
am honored to be able to have someone I call
a friend, someone I admire, and someone who's one of
the greatest at what she does. Everybody, please welcome Lindsey Vonn.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Are you thanks for having you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
See how like calm that was? Now I want to
get to like the real time.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Okay, now we're getting serious. That was a nice easy
layup and now we're going straight n welcome you.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
To thank you for coming to my office.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I mean, what do you think about I love gold,
So I'm digging it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I know you are. Yeah, I know you are.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, We're gonna get to all your goal that you have.
But first, I like to always start off the interview
and I like to talk about the last time that
I seen my guests. And so the last time I
seen you was Art Basil, and I know why I
was out there. Let's talk about why you were out there.
Talk about why you were out there. What were you
(01:18):
doing in Art bas out there?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I live there now, I live in Miami. I mean,
I'm never anywhere. I'm literally the most I'm ever in
any one place per year is maybe one hundred days. Yeah,
like this year, I think I'm racking up one oh seven.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So why why why are you not anywhere?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Let's talk about keep up.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You know, it's a hard world out there, and I'm
just trying to keep up with d Wade that I am.
I'm not even like as much as.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I'm joking, I'm dead serious, your fucking boss. And you
know you're an owner of an NBA team and w
W n.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
A and the real Salt Lake and you know.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
You're anyway in your wines and all.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
These things, and I feel so insignificant. I'm just trying
to keep up with you. Okay, You're making me feel
you know, it's like this is like.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Because I knew you were coming and I was like listen, Lindsay's.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Coming and all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
These are new really, Yes, you were the first interview
in my office. This is the first time the trophy
has been up.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
That means a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, So I saw some our bads. I saw like
it was it like a baby blue range Rover.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Or something he was in front of.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, that was so I'm re sponsored.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
There we go. Okay, let's talk about your partnership and
my partnership in Miami. What did you what does it
consist of?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You go with Rolex, I was with land Rover.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You got a Rolex deal. You got a land Rover deal.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Ye, red Bull.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Dorsi Uh, I got my unique goggle company, my head
ski line, the Gucci colab last year.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And you got time to do what outside of that?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I'm just you know, I'm not an MBA or WNB
owner yet, so yeah, well I am.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I do own some little, tiny, minuscule piece of LAFC.
And also with you, we also like really yeah, so
you didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I did not know.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It's so big time.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I didn't even know the team Ryan invited you to
the like you know, opening the facility, and I was
not so.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So in your In all these partnerships that you have
that takes all your time away, what do they consist of?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Talk to us about like what do you do?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I mean I don't do any brand deals that I
don't believe in.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Or products that I don't use.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Is that just I should? True?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
No? I all my relationships are very long standing. So
I've been relexed since two thousand and nine, red Bull,
since I was like twenty years old, which you know,
we're not going to count how many years that is,
but it's a few. Under Omar, I was a pretty
much one of the first female athlete and the longest
standing athlete, almost twenty years with them. So I pick
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brands that believe in me as much as I believe
in them, and I want to build like a long
lasting relationship.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Paid again, I picked brands.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So that was a bar right there, because most people
brands have to find them and come to them.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You said, I pick brands.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I mean, that's that's the level of Lindsay Barr right there,
You're picking brands.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm trying.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I mean, there's definitely, uh, you know, a lot of
years where I didn't pick the brands, but you know,
I think I was careful with my choices. Yeah, you know,
there's definitely, especially in the middle to the end of
my career, there's a lot of brands that are coming
at me with a lot of money, but they were
in line with who I was as a person, so
I didn't I didn't go with them.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So Lindsay and I we joke a lot, and we
have a great relationship where we joke on each other
a lot. And we talk about each other's accomplishments and
all these things. But in retirement, we retired around the
same same time.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Yeah, out to drunk and then drunk, you know, came back.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I had a lot of surgeries, You've had a lot
of We couldn't just go back.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, you're like bone on bone. I'm bone on bone.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, I'm bone both.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, like both knees one knee.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, I think both, but like one is really like
knee replacement, the other one is.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Because of the conversation, I.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Got your guy. I got a guy for the replacement
when you're ready years from now. Really no, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's well, would you get one early already?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I have a schedule for end of March. Yeah, I honestly.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I had a preparation surgery a couple of months ago
for the replacement, but it went really well. I did
some cleanup, got a lot of osteophytes, which is like
bone calluses out of there, and it feels pretty good.
So I'm going to get another injection on Monday and
we'll see.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So I'm glad you brought that up because I personally
know how many surgeries, like I mean, every time, like you've.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Had a CEO, you have MCO, you've had.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
All meniscus, You've had all the worst surges that you
can ever surge you can have. Yeah, but in the
midst of that, I still see you toss and tires.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I still see you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Going like like you get low, like I can't bend
my knee like that.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Like, so, what do you do in the midst of
your rehab?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
What makes your rehab so special where you still can
still be an athlete when I can't be an.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Athlete no more?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Did you do your rehab?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I mean maybe I didn't. What what what does your
rehab consist of?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Range of motion? That's like the number one thing I
still work on that today.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Like what like what kind of like what do you do?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I need to like jam it, like I need to
I need to jam my knee and make it bend.
You know, I do it every day. I straighten and
I bend it. I just move my kneecap around like
that stuff. If you don't continue to make if you
don't maintain that, a scar, tissue.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Build up and all that. That's what's up in my
knee like a scar.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
That's why I get clean ups all the time, because
it just keeps building and then you can't bend your knee,
and then you can't go as low as I can go.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I get cleanups, but you're not scared to go under
and get as many How many surgeries have you had?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I ha, stop counting after two hands, it's just why
I count.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And you're not scared to go under the knife and
get a cleanup. Like if you got to get it done,
you like, let's get it done.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Feel like I've got the best in the world making
me feel better every time I go in.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It is for a reason. I have a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I need it fixed. It's like, you know, you take
your car into the shop to get it tuned up.
I need to tune up. You know, I just happened
to be unconscious.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Well I'm getting tuned up though.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Why it's great. You sleep great?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You lose all your muscle masks, and let's talk about that,
okay from surgery.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
No, yes, you do, but cleanups, you don't lose that
much muscle mass. You got to do some eastim just
some literally just like quad activations holding for thirty to
sixty seconds, like easy stuff, honestly, really basic, but that'll
keep your tone. And also blood flow restriction is helpful
to like land with your feet up. No, like I honestly,
(08:11):
I didn't do it. I was when I was competing,
but I'm doing it now. It's like you, it's this
machine that kind of restricts your blood flow.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh yes, jump it up.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yes, so it helps maintain your your muscle mass. Okay,
so it's so easy things.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
But honestly, like I'm doing stuff the next day after cleanup, Okay,
you're going to the wrong people.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Man, Well I was.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I haven't had it since I've been done planned, but
we will talk about could clean up.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Honestly, it'd be like a thirty minute surgery and you'd
be you'd be pumped.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You still know the right person.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
So I don't know why you didn't call me.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Your Well, I should have called you because I remember
you had one of the ugliest accidents.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Was waiting for what was at the end of that day.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, it was just one of the uggest accidents ever.
And you tore a lot of.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Things, a lot of things, so many things.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Can we can we go back to that? I'm sorry,
go back there? Can we go back to oh?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Can you take us back there?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
What year was it?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Twenty thirteen was my first.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
It kind of set like that was the first domino
to fall, and after that it was like a series
of unfortunate events, a lot of surgeries, a lot of
a lot of injuries.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
But my first crash that was really bad. I tore
my MCL off the bone, which is hard to do.
My ACL and I had a tili plateau fracture. My
minisis was okay, some small small tears, but mainly the
big thing was the MCLA, so I had to repair
both of those. The MCL is one of the ligaments
(09:39):
that has the most blood flow, so it heals fast.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
But because it was off the bone, then it made
it more complicated. So it's a little nitty gritty, but
it took me a while and then I and then
I blew it out. Then nine months later again again I.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Had I had a brace on and everything.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I had done all the right things, but in ski
racing it's like one small little thing can go wrong
and you crash. You're in the fences and your legs
and like a pretzel.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So for everybody out there, if I didn't start off
saying it. I mean, Lindsay is one of the greatest
skiers of time. She's legendarius. Little girls right now growing
up with pictures and photos and everything of Lindsay bond
around their room, and even though she don't want that,
she's one of She's the goat. As we sit here today,
how do you get to the point where you are
(10:26):
not like, I ski one time and I'm never going
back again.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
How do you get open you didn't go skiing with
me the perfect exactly, I'm not going with you.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
No, I would help you.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
No, I don't believe that I would.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I would make fun of you.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I would also help you.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I would also help.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I got like, it's hard for me to break
with this bone on bone on his left in his
left knee. It's hard for me to do that pizza
thing they talk about.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh yeah that's the work.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah it hurts.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, we need to do a clean up and I'll
get your quads a little stronger and then we'll go
and I'll get you that right setup.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
No, No, I'm okay, I'm okay. Are you sure I
like to have you can.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Have your wine and then you you know, you'd be
loosened up, and then I'll give you that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I hate the gold.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I lost my glove, you lost your clothes like.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
The kid thing where it like, you know, snaps on
your jackets.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
It don't lose it, right, I.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Mean that is for everybody who's never skied before and
is not into it. It's one of the like it's
life threatening every time you come down here.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You could die here.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah you can die. You can die.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yet you could die, so you can die.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
How do you pick up a sport?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, how do you drive a car? Exactly? You could
die driving a car. You still drive a car.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, that was exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I know, right. I love skiing fast, like that's what's
excites me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Where did it come from?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I mean, honestly, I I love skiing because I just
love skiing. Like when I was a kid, it was
the only thing my family did together.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
We didn't go to the beach.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
We didn't you know, we didn't really have any money
for those kinds of things. So you know, we jump
in my grandfather's old suburban and we drive to Colorado
and we all go skiing. And you know, when I
start racing, I honestly wasn't very fast.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I just loved, you know, to do it. And then
I became better, and then I decided I want to
be in the Olympics. And then I started working hard
and I started really going fast, and then I really
loved it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
How do you go fast like you wasn't like for
me someone who don't know, I just think, if you're
going downhill, you're going fast.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
So it's kind honestly, it's kind of like driving a car,
like when you put your foot on the gas pedillo,
you're going faster. Right For me, I just point my
tips downhill and I go faster, like I can gauge
how fast I'm going or not.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
It's kind of like that.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And then the way I see, you know, when you're racing,
you see a line, it's very similar to a road
like a race like a Formula one track, where I see,
you know, the line that I want to take and
where I want to accelerate or decelerate, and you know
what I need to hit or avoid.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, okay, for everybody out there, I didn't. I didn't
do this in the beginning, so I want to make
sure I do it now. So in my wanting to
do a podcast and wanting to have conversations with people
that I am ironing the door and it's great. I've
been like changing it up every time, trying to figure
out and trying to find it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And in the midst of that, I've added a sideline
guy over here. His name is Bob Mittellus.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Say Barry White was over there, so we called him
the flown the wall. Even though he has a camera
looking at him right now, he will not be on screen.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
He's just a flower on the wall. He's a voice
that you will hear.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
But he's actually, you know, someone on the sideline that
I look at to help me maybe called time out sometime.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But also too, Bob has some great questions as well.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, so I'm gonna take this moment, Bob, what you
got for us as we take our first break?
Speaker 6 (13:59):
So when was the moment that you realized you were
going to be nice? Like, when was the moment you
realized you were going to be special?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I mean, I it was always my dream, right, you know,
when you have a dream to be professional.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
My dream is to be an Olympian.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I didn't think I was going to be anything other
than an Olympian and then once I made it to
the Olympics when I was seventeen, then it's you know, like, okay,
what's the next goal. It's kind of like your competitive
and you know, you want to be better every time,
and so it's, you know, one thing after the next,
and I just got better and better and you.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Know, winning more and more. And I didn't think I
was special.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I just loved what I was doing and I strived to.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Always be better and by the end that was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You think you can be great without loving what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Not truly.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I mean, I think I've met a lot of athletes
that are really good at what they do. Yeah, but
they're not great because they really don't have that like
deep inner passion and for it. And they could have
won so much more if they had that passion. And
I think it has to come. You know, a lot
of parents push their kids into sports, and you know,
(15:11):
again they're naturally gifted. They love to do it, but
they don't the passion's not there, and eventually they don't
like it. And I've seen a lot of athletes retire
way before their time because I just don't enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's a lot of things that can take the enjoyment out,
the love out when.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
You're a lot of things going through the journey, a
lot of things.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Your kids, you're like, oh, I want to I want
to be this, I'm going to be this. When you're
a kid, you say I'm going to be this something
like my son, you know, he say, oh, I'm going
to be an NBA. He no, it's no doubt about it.
Then you got to actually do the work to get
an NBA.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
One of the things I think is tough for kids
to understand is this notion of hard work. When kids
think they're working hard, they think, oh, I went to practice,
I worked with the.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Team, and I'm doing again and again.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
What did you do when you talk about hard work, like,
what was your resuremen?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Like, Well, I was one of those kids that I
thought I was working hard and until I realized that
it wasn't. You know, I think it's all I think
so much of life is based on your perception and
what you've experienced to make you think that way. And
so when I was younger, you know, I love skiing,
So I was the first one on the hill and
the last one off the hill, and I thought, that's
(16:36):
what that was hard work, That's what I needed to
do to be better.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And I did.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I got better, but then there was a point where
I wasn't getting better, and then other kids started to
get faster and I had to figure out, Okay, what
can I do now? And I realized that, well, I
wasn't really working that hard in the gym. I was
doing what I was told to do, but nothing more.
And so I had this kind of come to Je's
(17:02):
with my dad and he's like, you need to figure out,
you know, what you really want. And so we actually
got a loan from my ski company to hire a trainer.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I went to Monaco. I know it sounds really fancy,
but it was absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It really sounds fancy I had. I had a Polish
trainer who I was sharing a one bedroom apartment with
with him and his girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They gave me the bed and they slept on the couch.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I spent two summers there and parts of the winter.
It was hell on earth. It was like military camp.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
How were you?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I was seventeen eighteen part of nineteen, and I mean
it was like tearing you down to build you back
up kind of thing. And what I thought was hard
work was so far from it. And he showed me
like how far I could push my body and after
that moment, it was like nothing could be as hard
(18:05):
as this.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
He gave me.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
This shitty old bike that had like two gears and
he would drive behind me as I had to climb
up the mountain and he wouldn't let me stop like
it was like you know, you know, don't give her
water like it was. It was pretty aggressive. I'm not
gonna lie, but.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It was like Rocky serious.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
It was like run until run until I tell you
to stop, And I'm like, what does that mean? Can
I stop now?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And you did it because you loved it.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Because I wanted to be better and I knew it
was either I do this and I get better, or
I do this, I don't and I quit.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You know, those like the only two options. And he
was the best at the time.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
He coached a lot of great champions and they were
also in the gym with me at the time, so
I got to see what they were doing, and uh,
it opened my eyes. It changed my perspective. It changed
how I viewed working out, a changed how I viewed,
you know, myself and what I'm capable of and that
those types of moments really help you dig deep when
(19:05):
you have hard times. You know, Okay, I've been through worse.
I can get through it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh yeah, I remember I was telling him. This was
later in my career. Were playing in Toronto in the.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Playoffs and we had it was game four and we
end up going into overtime. Anyway, I was tired. I
was so tired. I had nothing, right, I thought I
had nothing. And it was a moment on the court
where I saw my trainer sitting in the seats that
I had my course I seats, and I looked at
him and he looked at me. In my eyes, there
(19:38):
was no word said. But when I looked at him,
I just saw all the work that I put in
over the summer, like all the all the climbs, all
the stairs, all the early five am wake ups. And
I was like, you do have more? Yeah, And I
ended up having thirty eight and so far and so on.
You know, yeah, but like more came from that, right,
And so you find that inner from your work.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Really, I'm from here right from your work. So I
definitely understand it.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, you get it.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
One thing I know.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
About you in our time of becoming friends. Is family
is important. Family is very important to you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And I know your sister Car shout out the car,
She's amazing. But I've talked to Carr about, like, you.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Know, in the joking way, I'm like, so, how did
Lindsay get so much better than your own?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Man?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
She's like, I could have.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Been, I could have so why Okay, So y'all grew
up as a family. You grow up. Car is in
the skiing and the whole family. This is something y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
How is that when you go from you know, some
of y'all like doing some of the family do to
old Lindsay's getting better.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I mean, I'm so I'm four years old than Kren
and I'm six years old on the triplets, the youngest
three are triplets. And it was definitely something where we
all skied growing up, and Karen, I and my.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
One brother Read were the only ones that actually liked racing.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
And my dad likes the joke that Car and I
we eat raw meat for breakfast like we're hungry, We're
we're going to seize every day, and the others, you know,
not as much. So, you know, me and Carr are
definitely on like another level competitively, you know. And so
for some reason, when we moved to Colorado, she made
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some friends and decided that she didn't want to race anymore.
She went back to Minnesota head and skied in like
four years and then was stay champed.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So and she's like, oh, shoot, I should have kept up.
I might have made Yeah, And then I was like,
you know it was and so she hangs on to that.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Also, my dad likes to say that she was more
talented than I was. I think he likes to just
jab me a little bit, like I.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Worked hard, but she was more talented.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, yeah, but you know I'm here, So that's the
that's the.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
That's that's the right there. Oh yeah, we love each other.
But I could still beat them on the mountain. They
all know that. Yeah, my brother thinks he can, but
they cannot.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So who's the coolest person you've been on a mountain with?
Like when you was like, I can't believe I'm out
here with this person.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
I mean a lot of people like Whitney Wolf heard
she's a boss bone and bumble tender.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Okay, she's young, boss young. I love entrepreneurs.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I think it's so hard to do what she's done,
and she rips. She's a really good, really shocking. She
is like a four year old kid or three year old,
and he is like I would be shocked and amazed
if he wasn't like a champion skier one day.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but as a
one time skier, what I did not appreciate is send
them three year old, four year old, five year old
kids skiing down at the Dumby.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
They can crash and be literally a pretzel on They're fine.
You just give them some hot chocolate and send them
on their way.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So, Bob, I'm skiing that's and I'm going down. I'm nervous.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean, my whole life is flashing it every second,
and I see these young kids just flying by me,
and they I think they felt like they were laughing
at me like I felt. I think when I was
holding a dog like it was insane and I was
sitting there trying not to like.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Get nothing to lose my life, and these three year
olds just flying down. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Oh I did I did ski with Eli Manning?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Was that cool?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It was indoors in the ski dome in New Jersey
at the dream.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It was not a dream. Skiing indoors is not a dream.
Why not, It's just not it's you're in a freezer.
It's a man made freezer. Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It's not a dream.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
No, but it was funny. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I I like skiing with people like I know you
don't want to ski with me, but you really should.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
We would have a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I'm not I don't I don't stress like I'm not
a I'm not gonna nitpick you. I will make fun
of you, obviously, give me just get up, don't give
you lessons. And then once you were sufficient, then I
would make fun of you. I would give you I
would I would it be soft, like you know.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You still have your place in Utah.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, okay, I told you.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
We'll talk about this offline. Maybe one time I'm in.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Utah and we think about taking lessons.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Okay, let's do it all right, Yeah, okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I'm not so.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Obviously, I have all these trophies back here, Like I said,
I even try to shign them for you.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
They're they're very shiny, and they're large. I think basketball
does a better job of trophies.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And ski But yeah, I mean we're you know, I
don't know, we just need to ship. I know, we
need to show something I don't know what is. But
you are not a stranger to winning. Talk to me
about your obsession because I know it became an obsession.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
So was it your first one?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, upset?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, so was it when you forgot to first win?
You became obsessed? So, like, what was your obsession to win?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Anywhere?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
To start? I mean, I actually really liked winning when
I was a kid.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Because I was probably like ten eleven and I was
beating kids that were like fourteen fifteen. I was beating
all the kids that made fun of me, and I
really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I don't I didn't. I didn't talk much when I
was younger. I just didn't you know.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Again, I was racing with kids that were a lot
older than me, and at that age, you know, there
was such a social gap that I didn't I didn't
know where what my place was, and so my place
was skiing fast and so when I won, that gave
me like a seat at the table. So that's when
I really loved it because that was my way of
being like different and cool.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I was on there you are, you're different and cool.
I mean, none of us are that cool until we
become different and cool. Like I wasn't cool until I know,
walk with.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Three theres probably always cool.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I was like real square and real quiet and real
nerdish but not nerd like smart nerd, like just.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah that was to himself.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, not cool at all.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I don't believe that entirely.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But okay, sports sports helped me become.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Okay shell. Yeah yeah, that's that's I don't know if
I ever came really out of my shell, but but
I definitely found my confidence, like a lot more confident
because of winning. Yeah, I don't know, I.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I think, you know, it became It only became an
obsession when it was on the bigger stages, and I
liked trying to one up myself, Like it was kind
of like a bet I made with myself, like how
many can you win?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
You know, what's the next one?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And so you're competing against yourself. I mean I know
this competing against the field.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Of course, it was always me against myself because there
was no one harsher.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
There's no harsher critic than myself.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I feel like you're very very hard.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, well yourself, but not on other people, just on myself.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's on yourself. Yeah yeah, just yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Apread show with everyone else. I just I expect a
lot of myself.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It probably comes from like my family and my grandparents
and my parents, and probably need to go to a
psychologist for that. But yeah, I'm hard on myself. That's
for another time. This is another person. That's for another book,
another book called The Inside My Head that you don't
want to I don't want to be in there.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So how many medals and how many awards? Like what
do you have? Like I can say, oh, I have
three champions I have three NBA championships, I have this,
I have that.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
How many you have? Do you even know how much?
How many medals and trophies and all you have?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Well?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I can so I have eighty two World Cup wins
and twenty titles, But I can't tell you how many titles.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Or what we did?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
You say? You said eighty two?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
What weld Cup wins?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Eighty two World Cup wins? And you get a metal
for all those things or you get a trophy for
those things?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You get money? What'd you get? Oh?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Not much money? I say that not like the NBA.
Definitely not like the NBA.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Each race is different, so they decide like I've gotten
the most random things.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I've gotten a cow, live cow, I know, and I
actually moivated me. I was like, there's a.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Cow in the finishing milk and I'm going to fucking
win this cow the cow milk Like yeah, it was
a special French cow from this very particular part of
France that makes a very particular cheese. And so I won,
and you know, they there's this whole prize ceremony and
they're like okay, and here's a check and some cheese
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and and there it was like a promo deal and.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'm like, check is cheese? By the way, Check there
was a fifty fifty kilo wheel of.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Cheese and a check cheese. Think too disgusting.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Try putting it in your car travel The smells bad
and then your skis get make it wet and it's foul.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, somebody should be some cheese before Nick got to
my cream.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah, it's not a good gift. I'd save that. So
it's a really story. Okay, So I got the cow.
So and in the end I had to negotiate to
get the actual cow, because.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Here's my thing. Cows are worth a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
That cow is worth between eight to ten k and
they were gonna give me like a five hundred dollars check.
I was like, no, first of all, that's a good
looking cow that makes really good cheese, so and it's
worth a lot more than this.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Five dollars check. So I negotiated.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I got my cow and she was pregnant, so I
got a two for one yep. And then that might say,
and then my friend who has a farm in Austria,
because you know, why wouldn't I have a friend that has.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
A farm in Austria, And he said he'd take my cow.
So then, of course cows, you know, they make money
off the cheese. So he started, you know, having more
cows with my cow, and I had a lot of
cows by the end of my career. And then I
want another cow later on, So I ended up having
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like eight cows.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So Lindsay has a lot of cheese. Everybody, I'm just yalking.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's a really sad story. So when I retired my
last year, I was I called at my farmer friend
and I said, hey, listen, I would love to come
see the cows, and he said, lindsay, they only last
ten years. It was so sad. I was so traumatized.
And he's like, and also I switched to sheep.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Because of the only last ten years.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, more money in sheep.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I guess I've never thought I was going to hear
a sad cow.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Now you're sad.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I was sad.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I know, but there's still one left. It just lives
in France. She never went to Austria. Okay, Sonny, I
named a cow after my sister, after car.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
She did not like that. No, she was not happy.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So how did you deal? Okay? Moving on from from
you asked what I got? Real quiet?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
It's a lot different.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
We celebrated Champagne, the milk and cow. So you really
have been in the beginning stages of like building.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Ski.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
You're like, yeah, yeah, I definitely are.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
You're going to be presenter one day and the person
that you're going to presented is gonna be making millions
off of the race. You're gonna be like, I have
five hundred dollars in a cow, what's my Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I don't know if the millions will ever happen, but
you know, definitely there, I hope.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
So instea, can you invest in the team?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
You can't?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Well, actually I could. The US team is privately funded,
but I don't know. Oh, maybe invest in another soccer team. Okay,
but a mentor. They got plenty of money.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
They're good.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It's more of the prize money.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
It's not about so if you give money to the organization,
you're helping them with like training and you know, flights
and all that stuff. You're not actually helping an individual athlete. Like,
I need to change how ski racing is in the media,
like on TV. Last year it wasn't even shown on television. Yeah,
So like how are you supposed to How is any
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athletes supposed to make money if your sport's not on television?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Is it an expensive sport?
Speaker 5 (32:11):
It's so expensive.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
And also there's weather.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
You know, if you if there's a snowstorm and you
can't have a race, that's three million dollars right off
the bat, just for one day.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
So there's no basketball games getting.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Canceled, Well, no sound in the bubble.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
COVID, Yeah, you guys made a bubble that's yeah. Yeah,
but indoor indoor sport, I know, I got it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, so how did you deal with you know, obviously
you started skinning because you know some that you're in
your family. Did you end up getting a love for it?
You end up becoming good? You end up and then
at some point you.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Became like this beautiful skier Lindsey Vaughn, Like, how did
you deal with that? Like s Newdy, how did you
deal with that?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Like it was just about your talent, it was also
about your looks.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Was that a thing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I mean it was weird.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I think it was around the time that I won
the Olympics that kind of how was twenty ten, like
how things kind of shifted in the media, like how
they portrayed me. And also I mean it didn't like
really help my cause that I was in the swimsuit
issue either.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
But you know, but you know, whatever's life.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Just I did what I did, so I don't regret it.
But you know, it was like there are things like
I was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, for example,
and I was in a skiing position and it was
the same.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
It was like a kind of a.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Redo of a male skier who was on the cover
like twenty five years before that, and all of a sudden.
I was on the O'Reilly Show talking about my sexual
position on the cover of Sports Illustrated, which was my
ski position. I'm like, why is this a conversation? And
it's exactly the same thing. This is how this is
my sport. Why why is this a conversation? Because like,
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I get, you know, there's two sides of it. You know,
I get swimsuit and whatever. You know, if I'm in
a magazine, that's that. But you know, if you're taking
my sport and you're sexualizing my sport, that's a whole
nother thing.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
And I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
You know that that line got really blurred, and I
think that's what the only thing that really bothers me
was that, like, respect my sport and what I'm doing,
and if you want to criticize me for other things,
go for it.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
But you know, there's a line are.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You okay with? Like how do you handle that? Like
do you come out and say it?
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Like I don't know if you know me, but I
do speak my mind.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
It's kind of a problem sometimes I don't really hold back.
And I think that's one thing that has both hurt
me and helped me. I mean, I am who I am.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I've never been shy about, you know, saying if I
agree or disagree with something. You know, I try not
to talk about politics because I did that once and
that really did not end up well. But you know,
I I'm always going to speak my mind. So if
I have a problem with something, you'll you'll know it.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Oh well, I know all about it, Bobby, anything was it?
Were you always like that?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Like that come about if you're just starting to speak
in mind.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I just think I'm really stubborn. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I I'm stubborn in my ways, and I I have energy.
I'm you know, I like I'm living. I you know,
he ask me how I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I'm gonna tell you how I'm feeling. You know, I don't.
I don't see the reason in like holding that part back.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I think what I have realized now and kind of
this phase of my life is that there are definitely
things that I need to just keep for myself and
my family, Like I don't need to share everything on
social media or you know, say everything that's on my mind,
although sometimes I do like a little filter like would
be nice sometimes, but I'm not great at that. So
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I think it's like, I don't know, I just I don't.
I don't I don't like hiding. I just am who
I am, and you know I can't change that.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Do you think as now as you know, you're obviously
moving into being a business woman, like fully, do you
think that you get the respect when you walk into
rooms of being a businesswoman or are you still looked
at as this athlete or you still or you think
you looked at as this beautiful woman walking in what
do you It's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I think some rooms people have no idea who I am,
and I have a normal business conversation and by the
end of an hour they figure out who I am,
and they're like, oh shit, you know, but I really
enjoy having a normal conversation with someone as if I'm
just a regular person, like as I am, right without you.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Know, a predesigned idea of who I am. Yeah, And
then there's definitely people that you know, meet me and
they they're excited because they think I'm a pretty skier,
you know, or just that I'm a skier, and then
they realize, oh, I actually have something to say, I
actually have knowledge, and I'm you know, not just a skier.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
You have knowledge.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I have knowledge. Drop some knowledge bombs every once in
a while, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I mean again like I have a lot to learn,
But I think you know, I've done pretty well for
myself and made kind of something out of nothing, you know,
in my sport.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So is it anything that you did not accomplish in
your sport that now that we're retired, as you sit
back and was like, if I would have just.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I mean, there's obviously the record there's one guy that
had more wins and nighted, but those records were broken.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So you know, one guy, by the way, not one lady,
one guy, one guy.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
One guy. I think you know I did the best
I could. I talked to Roger Fetter about this, and
I you know, it was like.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I squeeze a lemon dry. There's nothing left that I
could have given. Did I make mistakes?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I mean you know, if I if I started my
career now with everything that's available, I think I would
have been able to ski a lot longer because just
everything is different. Recovery is different, you know, the way
we train is different, nutrition is different.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
But I had what I had.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
I played the cards that I was dealt, and I
don't think I could have done more with it than
I did.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
So I don't have any regrets. Life's too short for regrets.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
So let's get to your life now. Like when I
see you now, besides when I see you on private jets.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
And you want to talk, when I see you with
your dogs.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
The only time fly private is with my dogs.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I was trying to get to.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
You know, you just had to you know, to yourself
when I'm fly private.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
No, I I.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Would save every penny for my dogs, like I and
it sounds silly, and you know, obviously I would love
to have kids, and I will one day. But right
now I have three dogs and they're getting older. One
my oldest in particular, I lost one almost two years
ago and it was like so traumatizing.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Dogs are. They're very special. So I will give every
last penny. I have to have my dogs with me
as long as I can.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
And do you think they're preparing you for being a
parent's case, I'm screwed.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Well, I mean they're like kids.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Well, my kids are not flying private. Just to be clear, my.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Dogs, well, I tell you that.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I'll tell you that right now. Maybe when they're younger
and they don't realize it. Yeah, they realize it.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Going through.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, they're in the back. Yeah like I was.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
I Lily have.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Food in New Zealand next to the toilet and roll
like seventy five. They can do it. Okay, it's possible.
We can do hard things.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
But your dog's private. I'm just going to turn it
out there.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Okay, but your kid is not. No, and you ain't
had no wine before we started his interview. And one
just for the record to be shown, Lindsay does not
want to drink any of my wine because she is
family in world.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yes, I know she would not love scroll.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, you would not. You don't know to drink my wine.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
And on my podcast, you know I love you and
I I Wigh Cellars, great wine. If I drink wine,
I drink Way Cellars, but I drink tequila.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Oh shit, this is this is unfiltered.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
What happens when you when you have a Way cellar?
I don't know what that does. Motorcycle vest on this.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Can I talk about this real?
Speaker 3 (41:06):
It's a motorcycle jacket.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So when I first got it could be a lot
of things.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Yeah, rustic.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
So when I first got into the wine industry, right,
and no, I wasn't even in the wine industry. When
I first went to NAPA for the first time ever
to go and do wine tastings, the first gentleman that
I ran into was wearing one of these.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
He was wearing one of these. He was a black story.
It was a black man.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And you know, if you know anything about wine, especially
if you know anything about wine, but if you know
anything about Nap as well, like you don't see a
lot of black people into wine. And so I pull
up and I first person to open the gate, and
it's a black man and he's wearing one of these,
and I'm like, wait, who are you? Yeah, And I
got a chance to build a relationship with him and
all these things. But I say that to say, I've
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always wanted one of these. And so when I started
my own wine label.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I got me one right here. I like it, yeah,
you know, yeah, a little branding, I like it, little swag.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
No, it's great, seven level of seventeen oh seven. It's
better branding. But it's okay. It's a wolf. You know,
you got the three stripes. That's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Though, Well, jumping here because we.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Get off topic.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
But so I wanted to understand as far as like
when you see another athlete, like they both got gold medals.
Is it a situation where you see another athlete, It's
like like a like in the movie Wall Street where
its sharks, he's another shark when you see another great athlete?
What does that feel like to you? Guys, we all
see each.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Other, It's cool. I feel like we're in a club. Yeah,
I'm like finally at the cool kids club.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
You know, because there's a respect that we all have.
We understand to get here, what you did to get here. Yeah,
we have a respect.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I like the respect because it's not something that's given.
It's definitely earned, definitely. But it's such a small group
of us that I don't know, it feels it feels
pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, no, I do. I like. I mean the ones
that are cool, Yeah, let's go there. The ones that
are not, they're not the ones that are like.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
A cool We're not going to talk about this, but
there's a couple that you know, they're in their own club.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
I like being a part of it.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I honestly, I've been like it's kind of an individual
sport even.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Though we are part of a team. But I like
being the team.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I mean, it's it's as symbol as when when Lindsay
and I, like as our friendship built, was at the
aspects when we kind of like, you know, our friendship
started to build, and it was it was really just
out of respect. It was like her in Gronk. Yeah,
we all had accomplished great things in our own sport.
You know, obviously we were moving to something else. But
the way you were able to build relationships with people
and you respect them is because one I knew just
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from the stuff that I heard about Lindsay without knowing
all the things, is I knew I was like, yo,
this this athlete to do all the things and accomplished
what she's accomplished in the sport that she's accomplished in,
Like her mental has to like you know what I mean,
Like I'm already going her mind. I'm like, her mind
has to be so strong, she has to be so this,
she has to be so that. So it's a respect
that goes into knowing like what it took for you
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to get on this stage where I am, because I
know the dark knights and the times I talked to
myself to get on this stage as well, you know,
And so yeah, it feels good to have relationships with
people that you respect at that at that extreame day.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
And I think it's also to like different generations, like
you know, even you know, older athletes, like there's always
that level of respect because again, you know how hard
it it takes, like what it takes to get there.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, so yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
When you are not in a room, what do you
hope that people say about you.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
When you're not in a room?
Speaker 1 (44:38):
What are the things that asking question behind?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Just did I left the room better than the way
I found it? Like I always want to.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Be it's cooler when you leave, Like what do you
mean by that?
Speaker 6 (44:49):
No?
Speaker 4 (44:49):
I mean so when I think about my mom, like
she was always this you know, incredibly positive person. It
was like this light that she had and no matter
how shitty er day is, she always made me feel.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Better, Like I want you to feel better. I didn't drink
your wine.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
But making me feel that, Like you leave in my
office and I.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
I said, I drink Way wine. Way sellers, you know,
And that's I'm promoting. Always promote my friends. You know,
I got you so, but that's what I place.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah, I hope I love skiing in a better place
than I found it.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
You know, I hope that I, you know, whatever whatever
I do in the business world, same thing. And you know,
when I invest in in sports, I'm investing mainly in women,
you know, and I want to make it better or
somewhat easier for them than it was for me. You know,
I don't, like, I don't promote skiing just to promote myself.
I do it for the sport, you know, Like, of
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course there's you know, there's our business, but ultimately I.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Want to leave it better than when I found it.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
And you know, I was inspired by by my idle
Peeaboo Street and you know, she triggered that chain reaction
of me following my dream. So how many people can
I positively affect like she did for me. That's what
I want to do, create a ripple effect that lasts
a long time, a long time. But you'll probably talk
shit about me when I leave, So it's fine.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
I mean, I'm definitely gonna do it, but I also
big you up to at the same time, like I
do both. One of the things that actually how we
even get to this point that we hear is the
fact that I remember one of the first after the
spis one of the first times we talked out the
words you talked to me about. It was an investment
opportunity I don't know if you remember, and you sent
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it over like head to something that you and you
want to do.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I thought that was so cool. It was so dope.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
It wasn't like, like, you don't get a lot of
people who are up and doing something that want you
to be a part of it. Yeah, not not in
the where I come from. Not in sports, I get you,
Not in the sports I come from.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
That's not how Yeah, that's not how I operate. But
I've had that for most of my career.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
There's been situations where there's been opportunities and because someone
didn't want me a part of it, they shut it down.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
And I never want to be that person.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
If there's an opportunity that I can give to others,
like I want to I want you on on the deal,
like I want all of us to make money, you know,
I want to build something great with new companies or
support other people.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
You know, that's that's my jam. I'm not like, I
don't need to hog all everything for myself planning to
go around.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I always say, like I don't want to eat at
a table bout myself. It's long, now, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Like, who wants to.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Be sitting there cutting up steak by theyself for no
one to talk to? You don't want to no want
to share things with none, you know, and so like
I want a whole table full of people who.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
I don't want to talk to my dogs, just my dogs.
That'd be weird.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I feel like one of your private jed is just
you and your dogs. I mean, I'm just gonna I
believe that where it is. I don't know, it might
be before I get to my last question.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
You got anything else?
Speaker 6 (47:46):
I don't know, just kind of like not that I
both in both retirement. What's like some of the biggest
and coolest things you're doing retirement now?
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yeah, again, I'm just trying to keep up with him.
So it's it's hard.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Literally, I I'm still building off of what I started
in skiing, you know. I think it's been just this
constant evolution of you know, brand partnerships and investments. And
I start investing, you know, while I was still racing,
but not to the degree in which I would have
liked had I known more at the time. But you know,
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it's just like we're building, you know, I'm building in
the investment side and now in a sports fund with
with Avenue Capital, with Strahan and Kandice Parker and thanks.
I'm really excited about it. But it's it's an evolution
of just building, and I don't know where it'll get to.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
I don't know what my goal is honestly.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
Ultimately, I just want to make everything I touch better
and and then hopefully be able to sustain myself and
my kids for a long time and my dogs and
their private jets.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Only the dogs.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
For me, when I was getting thinking about retirement, actually,
Kobe was doing amazing in retirement and so for me
when I was getting ready to retire, I was like, cool,
I won't be able to reach out to Cole. I'll
be able to ask him anything about like TV production,
about investing all the things that he was doing, and
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he was doing it at the same level that he
was playing at, Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
It wasn't like he was just doing he was doing
it at the same level.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
And unfortunately, when we lost our brother, I felt like
I became a leader in retirement for athletes.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, right, And you literally hit the ground running.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Hit the ground running.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
And even before that, though.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
Even before Kobe, you you definitely were on like a
different trajectory and you've taken retirement to a totally different level.
And I think that's like why you know we connect
a lot, is because you know, we're we're we see
things in a different way.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
We want to go to different places.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
I'm not content with just living off of my accolades,
like this is great, but it's not who we are.
You know, There's so much more that we have to
give and that we strive for. So you have definitely
led the way in retirement and I honestly sincerely look
up to you.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
So but don't don't don't take that run with it.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Well, I've tried, and I felt that I felt like
I like I knew when I was retiring, I needed
someone that was doing it to show me, like, man,
you could still reach a certain level of retirement and
it looks a certain way, and you know the way
Cod was doing it. And so in my retirement, I've
tried to do that. And even if someone reaches out
(50:39):
to me, if they don't, I know they're watching. Everyone's watching,
and so you know what I've tried to do is
I've tried to continue to push the envelope.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I tried to show people that it.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Can look different, it can be different, it can feel,
you know, whatever way you wanted to feel, because like
I do all the things, I'm an owner of a team, right, well,
not an owner, I'm a governor.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Not even a governor. I'm like a small monory.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Just accept that I'm a small but also taking my
shirt off all the time.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
You do.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah, it's a lot sometimes I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (51:10):
I mean, it's just it's like.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
My algorithm says that, yeah, that people gonna they're gonna
with my posts.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
I mean, yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
I don't know, Like it's like even on the red carpet,
just like the Wade shirt comes off.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
It's just it's kind of like those those requests your
wife wants.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
To request, algorithm, Well, you probably don't have to do
what she has to say.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, yeah, but I try to show them that, like
you can do different who you don't. You don't have
to look like this, like I throw a suit on
and not be in this meeting, but also.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
To out there better than mine, so you can do
things different.
Speaker 5 (51:47):
I believe in you color your hair, yeah, you want,
you want?
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, that's how I roll.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Good. So to get you out of here.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
When I started a podcast, you know, I talked about
the name of the podcast called The Why, And I
think that's a very important question, especially what we are
in life. You are eighty four, baby, so you'll be
turning big. Ye're coming up, so we don't need to talk.
Leave it.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
I'm already over it, like I'm turning forty two.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
On the other side. Is it good?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Great, it's great in the forties, it's so good. No
one knows that eighty four.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Some people can't count. It's okay, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Actually, I have somebody who I work with that really
runs like my business and she's not a good counter.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
So I understand that exactly.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
So the question is, at this point, you've accomplished so much.
I mean, to me and to so many others. You
are a legend, and you are konic in so many ways,
and you're doing so many incredible things. But as we
sit here and we're turning next year, that that premium.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Number is premium. That's a good way to say, that's a.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Premium number that we're turning right, a very important part
of our life, right, we want to get to that
number from where you sit here and where you're going
before your birthday comes?
Speaker 1 (53:05):
What would be your why? What is your why going forward?
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Like we know your why as a kid, how you
got to this place, and once you get to that space,
out of all the accolades and all the success, all
the business opportunities endeavorsit you in, what is your why
going for?
Speaker 3 (53:21):
I mean going forward is a hard question because I
think I'm still figuring out my why. Like I am
someone that.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
Always works hard, and I always have worked hard, and I'm
trying to figure out how do I put that into
a passion because I'm doing so many things right and
nothing is really engaging me in the way that scheme.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Can it right?
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (53:44):
Okay, but I'm still not going eighty five? You know,
Like investing is fun at all, but like I'm not
risking my life.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Like when's an investment don't feel good? It's like, oh, okay,
you gotta get.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
An email exactly, it's not you know, you're not You're
not getting anything tangible from it, and so you know,
I don't know I I think I'm still in search
of my why.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
I guess, and I'm actually proud of that. You know,
I it's an evolution, you know, I'm still evolving. I'm
still learning, I'm still growing. I don't know where that's
going to take me. You know, life is crazy, it
can be amazing, it can be very difficult. But I
know that I'm here. I'm enjoying every second. I woke
(54:24):
up every day thankful that I'm here. And where that
takes me, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
So you put pressure on yourself right now to do,
to accomplish, to become.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Are you just riding a wave?
Speaker 5 (54:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (54:36):
I always put pressure on myself like I you know,
if I'm if I say I'm going to do something,
you know, I expect to do it, and I have
those high kind of expectations.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
But I don't.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
I'm not as self critical as I used to be.
But I'm working on that. That's the different. That's that's
a that's a therapist question.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
That's okay. Once you get to TVD to the premium.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
You probably answer us already in your other podcast.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I've never no one has ever in my other podcast,
no one has asked me my wife you're the first person.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
What is your why in your premium? You're coming up?
Speaker 1 (55:13):
You know what's crazy? I asked you that question. I
never thought about myself.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Well I'm here to ask you.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
You know, I.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Guess my why To sum it up, and I be
long wind, that would be to make sure that whatever
I'm doing is what I want to do. And you know,
we go through life a lot and you have so
many people who you know obviously there to assist you
and help you, you know, to accomplish things you want to,
but you know you wanted to be you. You wanted
to feel like you. And so my why every day
(55:41):
is to is to wake up and to find, you know,
find that what is that? Who do I want to be?
Because it changes all the time, and so you know,
but I want to make sure that whatever I'm doing
in life that it feels like me when you see it,
you smell it, when you hear it. That's the a way.
And so my wife is to find myself from these
(56:03):
forties on, we.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Don't say that number. From premium on forty one, from
premium on, from premium, I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Premium yet signing from premium.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Premium on premium. Just say premium on premium.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, everybody right here on the podcast creative thing.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
So, Lindsey, I have this book that was sent to
me and I opened it up very excited.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
I was like, oh, Lindsay sent me.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
To be clear, you sent me your book that was
not signed.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Also, oh, that's what we're doing now. I know what
car it just just to feel like you're telling us.
Speaker 4 (56:37):
Now one day when I have a podcast, I'm going
to have you on with your unsigned book and I'm
going to force you to sign it on on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I'm getting it signed on the podcast, everybody.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
And this is this is something that I did not
bring over here today because you were coming.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
This is something that stays in my office.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
I got books of great athletes and people that I
adore the myer and so I will love if you
will be able to sign this.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
I will sign your I have my book for you.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
I have a shop before you.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
It's not gold. It's kind of funny, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
No, Okay, don't be calling me all like, listen, okay,
we're on the budget.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
We retired the.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
Way and you're so premium.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
I almost said, we didn't, we didn't we just started
something on the podcast Baby on premium.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
How do you premium premium? That means that maybe forty plus.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
No, it's just premium plus premium plus.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
It's exactly. We just coined something. You trademark that before
me all be really mad.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Well, let's do it together, get together, Okay.
Speaker 4 (57:42):
Plus weed and Downhome Gold Enterprise Inc. We just trademarked
in so you can't steal it. All right, it's done,
all right, official.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
There we go. Lindsey Va, thank you for being on
my podcast. Thank you appreciating Yes, love
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