September 9, 2025 • 35 mins
After discovering the latest self-improvement TikTok trend, The Great Lock In, The Packers are on a mission to optimize the last four months of 2025. But first, they catch us up on the latest with their little ones and school and Madison lets us in on an exciting career shift. Then, the Packers’ Great Lock In, or as they’re calling it, Great Pack Up, begins. Come along on this manifestation journey, whether you’re searching for wealth, health, or something else!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi, everyone, Welcome to these packs puck. I'm Madison Packer.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm Anya Packer. Madison and I are both former
pro hockey players. We met through hockey and fell in love,
and now we're married with two awesome toddlers, ages two
and four.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
These days, we're opening up about the chaos of our
daily lives, between the juggle of being athletes, raising kids.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And all the messiness in between. So buckle the puck up,
because there is a lot to talk about. Hey, Maddie, Hello,
how you done? Good? Good? Good?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You know what. A couple episodes ago, we talked about
what we thought was going to be the outcome of
the first day of our kids' school. So I think
we should start by just celebrating our our little ones.
All right, let's do it, okay. One of our predictions
was that miss Bean McQueen, now three years old, was
going to have an accident, and she did not. She
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did not on day one. She did not, Yes, she did.
Was day two, Day one, no accident. She came back
perfectly dressed. Yeah, it was day two and day three.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Then she subsequently had two accident days. But day one no,
no accident. No accidents this week, no knock on one
or at school knock on everything. We then forecasted that
the bean would also not eat her sandwich, which was
those girl correct. She did not even come close. She
had all of her punchy snacks and no sandwich. She
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ate her gummies everything, She doesn't like any she doesn't
like sandwiches. This is the problem.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, it's sandwiches because she'll eat just the meat and cheese,
but she won't eat the sandwich and eat it if
it's a sandwich. But she won't eat the meat and
cheese off the sandwich if I make it into a sandwich.
It has to be like you know we need to do.
We need to go back to Costco and get those
meat tricks.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well that or today I just made her a cheese sandwich,
so we shall see if it's the meat or if
it's the bread, because she'll definitely eat the cheese. Okay.
We also predicted that Whalan might have a best friend,
which honestly, I'm shocked by the answer here. But he
has claimed no best friends.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, I'm a little surprised too, but I think it's
because he has lots of friends. He hasn't identified the
best friend yet, although he did identify the bully.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh he's got the bully, which is good to know.
I mean, keep your enemies close. But I said, okay,
so I sent you a video. I hate to say
that I read something and then send a TikTok video,
but I saw it on TikTok. It was a woman
who basically said, if your kids have a hard time
making friends, it's because they watch you and your ability
to like model to them what making good friends looks like.
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And I immediately sent it to you and said, for
the rest of our lives, our kids are sol I'm
so bad at making friends, you know. Oh, I'm so good.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
She goes on to say, like, you should get out
of your car in the drop offline, say hi to people,
give hugs to acquaintances that you're friendly with. I was like,
I will be staying. I disagree with that video. I'm
just not good at making his friends. I don't think
I come across very cold. That's a crazy take. Well, yeah,
you come across cold. That's supposed to be. Yeah, but
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you know you don't. You haven't.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You don't have a hard time making friends. You have
lots of friends.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I have friends.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I'm gonna next on that. Okay, next, I disagree with that.
Take okay, Graaitland doesn't have a best friend yet because
he's friends with everyone, which goes against everything that you're saying.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
He's the king of friends. And then the last one
was that Harley Bean was going to get into a fight.
Good to know, no fights. Ah.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
She did get in a fight, though. Remember it wasn't
the first week of school. It was the second week
of school. She got pushed to the ground by some girl.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You know we're gonna have some trouble with Harlan. She
is a pistol and she is thirty percent. She's a
thirty thirty eight percent, thirty eight and she growls.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
She didn't fight back when the girl pushed her to
the ground. That I asked her, I said, she goes
she was whatever her story of the girl she pushed
me to the ground. I was like, old, did you
hit her? Did you hit her before or after?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And she goes, no, because two wrongs don't make up?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Right there?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Right? Mom? Three left? No, Okay, we're done with that anyway.
First day of school predictions were fifty to fifty. I'm bummed. Honestly,
I thought we knew them better. But these little children
are going off into the wild and really blazing their
own trail, which is kind of amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, you can't be that upset because we were wrong
about the fight. Yeah, and so Harlan took the high road.
So it's like it's mixed emotions.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You know, mixed emotions for sure. Well, naturally we need
to go into what we know and love, and it
is our hockey hot take. Are you ready for my
thoughts here? Girl, let's hear it. Hockey hot take. My
hockey hot take is I could not be more excited
for the opportunities that I'm watching you get in the
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broadcasting world because I love to see a knowledgeable former
player woman in the analytics discussion on the panel, like
really breaking it down. I think that you're crushing it.
So my hockey hot take is that you were a
tremendous higher. I think that you're doing an excellent job.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Ooh, I like that. I could not agree more. It
is a little nerve wracking, I will say the first
time I did it, it's mixed emotion when you get there,
because it's like you're trying not to be like a
kid in a candy store.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But it's so cool.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Like I signed the NHL wall when I did NHL
Network and like you're on the set and they're all
early things. And after my first time, I called my
talent manager and I'm like, how.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
DoD I do?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He's like, is it really good?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Really good?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
The only feedback is you didn't really seem to know
where you were supposed to look. And I was like, yeah,
that's because it was like robot cameras, so on that.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Tone, you got to tell us what you're learning, because
like we just watched the shows. I don't I've never seen.
I mean I've seen of like a studio, I've been
in them. I go with you when you get to go,
But what is it like on the other side, and
what are you learning slash? How are you preparing? Because
not to mention your first time, your first little dance
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on NHL Network was during the playoffs. Pretty incredible, But
now you know, what are some things that you go
to on the next appearance and the next broadcasting thing?
Like what are you learning?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I think for me it's a way to diversify, Like
I feel like so often, especially in hockey, people just
give like the generic cookie cutter the answer or like
in the interview, like it's all the same stuff and
you need to find a way to diversify yourself. One
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for me, it's being a former female player operating in
the men's hockey world, but also just like knowing your
stuff and picking out little nuggets and like when you
rewatch shows, you see what they talk about. A lot
of times they talk about the same thing. So if
you can point out different things or bring a fresh perspective,
bring something different. There are so many people that want
to do broadcasting, and not for nothing. It's not easy.
(06:53):
Like I think that people think that just because you
played the game and you can talk the game, like
you're not sitting there. I mean sometimes you are, but
like when you're on a broadcast and you're doing play
by play, that's very different from doing color. And when
you're doing color, it's very different from sitting on a panel.
I like the panel feel because it's just you have
to be more professional, right and sit up straight and
look at the camera and get used to the earpiece.
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That was an adjustment for me was someone talking in
my ear because I struggle sometimes with ambient noise, like
listening to someone talk in my ear while I'm talking,
and like they're counting you down while you're trying to
finish your sentence, like that can get confusing. So just
adjusting to that, I would be terrible at that. Yeah,
that's the hard I think that's for me. That's the
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hardest part is remembering where to look. Also, it took
me the first time I did the studio. It took
me like way too long to figure out that I
had a monitor right below me. I kept looking up
to see the video and like, I'm sitting next to
Dan Co and he kept looking down and I'm like,
how does he know what he's talking about? I'm like,
oh my god, there's a TV.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
H you know what. Familiarize yourself with the space, big guy.
By the way, Ken Danico, I had call out.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, I had the I had the privilege for my
first in studio NHL event or appearance was with two
people who I had worked with before, and so I
was able to walk in and have that familiarity and
just be very comfortable. And that goes a really long way.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It was Ken and whom Erica Watcher, and Erica Watcher
was pregnant, which is like the full circle of momming
women just taking over and being amazing. I remember being
so hyped that it was Erica and like that it
was just all of those things together. It just felt
really perfect, perfect timing. Yeah, so I also think that
(08:39):
something you said is really interesting to me because and
I will call out my new England Patriots Stefan Diggs
just did an interview where basically he said, I'm really
sorry that all training camp have been really quiet. I'm
trying to make my impression. I'm trying to get my
teeth cut. Like he's new to the Patriots, he's obviously
a very big name, Like we want to just see
a monster season out of him as a Patriots fan.
(08:59):
But he basically goes in and is like, I understand
I'm coming off standoffish, but I'm not going to do
an interview if I don't have anything good to say.
I'm going to try to give you thoughtful answers. I
want to reset this conversation. Like the media and the
players have such a humongous liability to tell good stories
and to work together really seamlessly. And obviously someone wrote
a smash piece about him because he was being basically
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standoffish to the writer's perspective, and he's like, Yo, I'm
here to do a job, but like I'm sorry, Like
I'm going to own up on my part. I think
the part of the media that people don't realize, and
that's why I really love you as an option, is
how it can be distracting, It can be noisy, it
can be all of these things. So if you don't
handle it with the right grace from a media perspective,
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it can be really difficult. So I love in hockey
that most of our media storytellers are former players because
I just think, like, you get it more.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot that goes into it too,
like research wise, if you try to talk to players,
find out what's going on in the room. Right, Like
there was an article written when I was on the
New York Sirens by the New York Times, and honestly,
it was really shitty, Like from a personal perspective, like
it got us attention for like what we were doing
(10:13):
for the team and for the game, and I got
a lot of individual attention. It didn't necessarily make me
look bad, but it made the team look terrible, right,
And like my teammates were upset, And you know, I
think that on one hand, the media has a job
to do, right, but like you also have to recognize
it when you're in someone's home and you're overhearing conversations
(10:33):
because you've been given access, like you have journalistic integrity
and you have an obligation to say, Hey, this is
going to be on the record, are we okay with that?
This is off the Like, there was very much blurring
of the line and we had like all access all
the time, and I felt like there were some liberties taken.
So I I just think that being on the other
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side of it, I understand, like, yeah, drama sells, but
so does sess right, Like, I just think that you
get a lot further by championing the successes of the athletes,
really knowing the game, bringing a different perspective, not talking
about the same thing over and over and over, maybe
not even talking about the same players. Right, Like when
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we were talking about the Stanley Cup Finals when I
was on NHL Network, we hadn't talked about Seth Jones
at all that and like pointing out that hey, that's
not necessarily a bad thing, Like the these are all
these things x y Z about this phenomenal player. And
I think that that's just to your point, like being
a former player recognizing those things, what would as an
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avid hockey fan, what would I want to hear that part?
And then as a new hockey fan, how do I
explain it so that everyone can understand.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I remember back when the league didn't have enough broadcasters,
this is old NWHL days. They asked if I would
do color and who can't do color commentary? It's just
you know, listening and then saying breaking down a little bit.
But I remember very very clear, this is when we
were on Twitch. We had a lot of new fans
that weren't per se hockey fans, like they were new
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to hockey and women's hockey all at once. So it
was a lot of making that accessibility slash interest if
you already got it, and bridging that gap. And it
was really fun for me because I could also watch
people convert into hockey fans, like in real time. But
I think that that is the part, especially from a
because now your talent, you're not just getting to be
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a hockey person. You have to also be engaging, you
have to be interesting, you have to be funny at times,
like there's a lot of more dynamic that you need
to add. How much of it is your real personality
and how much of it is like do you go
into like broadcast Mattie Mode.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I think it's mostly I mean, like you don't, I
don't know. I guess I haven't been doing it long
enough to like really know. But I think that the
people that do best are themselves. And I think that
I bring a certain unicorn esque.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Bring a certain stuck to the stage.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You look at yeah, you look at Paul Bisonette or
PK Sue Band. Like some people think PK Suband is
too loud and too much. He is unapologetically himself and
it sells. Yeah, he's just a great guy. So I
think that trying to be the minute you try to
be something or someone different, or you try to if
you're unpolished, button up or you're super polished, like dress
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it down or whatever, it is, the minute you try
to be something else. One and you don't get to
show up to work as yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That sucks.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But two, at some point you're gonna get tired of
like the mask, right, So you have to if you're
not right for the role. The role is not right
for you, and you just have to find a space
where you fit for them to you know, I think
that I bring a lot, like I think I bring
a lot to the to the table as I am.
I'm not going to put a dress on, I'm not
going to die my hair blonde. I'm going to be
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me and you're gonna get what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I love that, well, you know what. I think that's like,
that's reminiscent of what we can take to every space
in our entire lives. It's so hard and not feel
like you can be yourself. So I love that for you.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, well I love it for me too. Speaking of them,
where are we at today?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You will check in? Oh I love our check ins.
I'm doing really well. I woke up early. I woke
up at seven, and that was before everyone in this house.
And I don't know that ten minutes of like being
by myself, brushing my teeth, getting up, putting on clothes
that I like, feeling good about myself, and then having
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Harlan come in and you know, having her wake you
up and give you sweet kisses like I just had
the most delightful morning and I would say, I'm at
like a cool ninety. I need to go work out,
which is bringing me down just a touch. But I'm good.
I'm really good. I feel amazing. N I oh yeah,
I got on the ice.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yesterday like a seventy four. You've been so tired. You
you have anemia. Thanks Doc, You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I In case you can't see it, listeners might not
be able to see it, but you see that little
white spot there.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
On my share. What happened, dear?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I opened the bedroom door and the door hit my hat,
thus tipping my hat up. Door continues into my face,
chipped my tooth. Not great.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Everybody needs to know that you should leave at least
an arm's length to your own face and the door
that you are opening yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
That happened right after my therapy call. So it was
like a real dart to the face. You know what
I mean? Like you know that, Like that's saying like
it was an elephant.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Dart to the Nobody says that. No one says that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But you the tickets from a movie. Look it up,
run the tape it it hurts so badly. You were
on a work call. Appreciate whoever you were talking to
allowing you to mend my little tooth situation there. But yeah,
that didn't feel great. I also, I have been very
tired and I'm not working out today because i went
three days in a row and I'm quite three days
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three days in a row, and I am quite sure.
I did your consistency code workout with you on Tuesday
and then decided that it was a good idea to
go to boxing on Wednesday, where Vic had me do legs.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Shout out to this, shout out to Chris Smith. Call back.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It was awful. Awful, Okay, wait, deadlifts, squats, bulgarians, walking lunches, lunges.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Hip thrust. What was the other? Oh? The hip thrust?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I used the hip thrust?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Miss?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Did you like it? Yeah? I don't care for that.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, I just eat on bar. But I've got bony hips,
you know how. My my hip bone, like the front
of my hip bones are like really pointy. Oh I'm
just sure.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm just tired, you know what.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So after all of that negative, I hit my protein goal.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
After all that negative, to be the still at a
seventy four is quite impressive.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I don't look at it as negative. I think of
it as learning experiences.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, shaping the future, proud of you. Well, actually, I
feel like that's the perfect place to kind of like,
we'll send it to ads and we'll come back because
we are getting into the viral I hate myself for
this whole sentence, the viral TikTok trend of the great
lock in. We are renaming it the pack up. It's
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for the final four months of the year. We're going
to get into what we're doing and what we're focusing
on with four months remaining in twenty twenty five. Holy mackerel.
All right, you have four months left in the year
since September one. This is not September first, but around
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that time, you have four months left of the year.
This viral trend is basically taking that four months and
then giving you a specific amount of time to lock
in on a specific thing. We are getting into it
in the Packer household because at the perfect time that
this quote quote trend is starting, our kids have gone
back to school. We have given ourselves the gift of
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like seven uninterrupted kid free hours in the day where
we can lock in on something. I'm excited you thought
about bringing back our business meetings, which I love for us,
you know, we can kind of get back into the conversation,
really focus on whatever we want and then kind of
fix our priorities, set new priorities, maybe set some goals,
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speak them into existence, practice a little gratitude. You mentioned
consistency code. I'm going to talk about what I'm doing
for my health and wealth, because health is wealth, you know.
But all that to say, we've got four months left
in the year. Pack if you could focus on one,
maybe two elements of your life individually, your life, what
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are you choosing?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Am choosing? Well, I guess it's all the same, but
technically too physical health and mental health.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, it is overall health, and I'm obsessed with that.
All right, Well, how what's your jump start, what's your
what's your first catalyst, and maybe what's the long term
goal for each?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So for physical health, I'm doing daily creatine yes, hitting
my water goal, hitting my protein goal, and workouts my
workout goals. So I've been doing workouts with you lifts
alongside training with VIC for a little boxing event in November,
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and my goal is to have five strength based workouts
a week, one meditation or recovery day, one off day.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I love that what's your water goal, what's your creating goal,
and what's your protein goal.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well, if I say my water goal, everyone's going to
know my weight.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That would be protein.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
And water.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, then don't water is half?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
My protein goal is to eat my weight in protein
in grams in grams. My water goal is to drink
half my body weight in ounces.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Is that how much water we need? I am not
drinking enough water? Yeah, that's how much water you should
be drinking.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
And my creating goal is to increase from five milligrams
to ten.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Wow, I think I'm going to do a little bit
of creatine cycling. I've excited. Okay, So thank you for
sharing your goals. I love them. Okay, So then talk
about your mental health site because I love that you've
incorporated a little like Recovery Meditation Day. What are some new.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Health and well?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, health and well.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I have not been sleeping great, which you have self
diagnosed as any so I need to go get I
need to go to the doctor and get that figured out.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
But I have.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Found that when I don't sleep, I feel like miserable.
And we know that blue light is not good for
falling asleep. So incorporating some meditation, some more podcasts, reading
more good for your mental health. And I think the
workout thing lends itself to mental health, like if you
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are taking care of your body physically like hormonally, you
should feel better. So I think it's just all like
working together, no alcohol.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's a big one. So cool. Yeah, I mean I
think all of that is really important. I think for you,
even just practicing gratitude and taking a little time to
be proud of yourself, especially like post hockey career, I've
noticed I think it's hard for you to be proud
of yourself. You've always tethered your success to.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
You.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Did your team win, did you score? Did you stay
out of the box, like whatever the micro goal was
that we set per game. And I watch you go
through new life, and I think that that's always hard.
So I'm really out of you that you're putting gratitude
in that you're putting time to meditate, time to just
be introspective, because that is not easy post doing anything
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as intensely as playing a professional sport.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Well, thank you, I appreciate that we are your goals.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, one of them is definitely a big fund. Yeah,
that hurt my brain. One is definitely in the I
want to really lock into my health, my physical health,
mental health. I'm with you on the health thing. I
may be doing it a little bit differently, but I'm
really locking in there. And then on the other side
of the fence, I want to come up with a
goal financially that really makes sense, that is aspirational, that
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is hard to do. I have wanted to buy something,
whether it's like a small business and an apartment in
an asset, Like is that real in my life currently?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
But like, is there a way that we can make
that work in this house possibly. I'm excited to basically
just take four months where I can sit down and
look at our finances in a way that gives me power,
not necessarily clarity. I don't need clarity. I understand them completely.
I don't always get like how rich people move, and
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I want to know that more and that those are
my two big lock ins. Like I think all summer
we did a really big lock in on the house,
and like the physical, like the look of our home.
We did our backyard a bunch, I did a bunch
of gardening, Like those projects still are like creeping through
the year. But I think that they're clear to me,
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So I don't really feel like I need to lock
in on those. I think I just need to invest
the same amount of time. But if I can get
better at those two other things, everything else will make
more sense to me. So those are my goals. I
want to take care of my health and I want
that ripple effect to go into a bunch of other places.
And then I also want to figure out how do
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we retire at fifty two when we're still young and hot.
These are my thoughts. Fifty two, that's what I've decided.
I love. I love that for us, We'll be amazing,
We'll be young, we'll be hot, we can watch our
kids do whatever it is that they're doing at that
point in time. Yeah, I've decided fifty two feels like, wow,
that'd be fun.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Dive more into the health and I want to hear
your health your health goals.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Okay, because that's very Genese it is, but I do
feel like, hey, so I've always taken a couple Honestly,
maybe a year ago now, I looked into creating and
it's benefit on.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Your body, and I was like done. One article kind
of set me over the edge, and then I started
really looking at it, talked to my doctor about it.
Bone density goes up. It helps you know your water
retention and your muscles. It literally helps your brain functionality.
I've been big on the creating thing. I want a
creating cycle so I can boost up the muscle growth
a little bit. Because I have been doing Chris Smith.
(25:05):
We have had her on the podcast before. I've been
doing Chris Smith's Consistency Code, which is a health and
wellness reset. It's ninety days of your life. It's enough
time to make a habit. It creates, you know, a
really good feeling one. I just feel like I look different.
I take, you know, every week I take a picture
of myself just to send a Chris and be like,
look at how I'm progressing. I can already notice a
(25:27):
difference in my legs and my pants size and how
my arms look. Again. I feel like my old self.
So I'm doing that. I highly recommend It is a
completely e platform. You just kind of like buy a
subscription and then you can self guided go through it.
It has nutrition options, recovery, it has lifts, it has
gym training videos to explain it all. It's amazing. So
(25:48):
I'm doing that in the process of doing that, I'm
also simplifying a lot of the other things that I'm doing.
I'm taking a multivitamin, I'm taking one like other like
mushroomy style mental enhancement supplement. That is it. I've totally
simplified there. I've started really sticking to my really clean
(26:10):
eating water, couple dye cokes because I'm not perfect girl,
but I'm trying to get in that space where things
are simple. I don't necessarily need a ten step skin routine,
maybe two, maybe three, like make it easy for me,
because if I over commit to really being obsessed with something,
I won't do it all the way. I know myself.
(26:31):
I get bored of it. I'm tired of it. It's annoying,
and then I just let the products stack up in
my closet and then I throw them all away. So
I've decided to simplify my life. That is my health
and wellness journey. I love that.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
For the piles in our closet.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I'm the worst at it. I do think I'm a hoarder.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, you're under sync.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Gives me no, I'm one hundred percent of hoarder because
I think, like, oh, I'm going to start mixing my
own oils to make hair oil for my hair. So
then I have sixteen oils and each one does something different,
and then I'm like, what am I doing? I don't
want to do that, and you never use more than
you No, I don't use them, and then I just
I hoard them. So I'm a hoarder. I'm gonna try
(27:10):
to unlearn that skill. I'm not good at it, by
the way, but I've decided if I can let that go,
I'll be in a better headspace.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
So we are doing all of this.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Why cause we have four months left baby, four months
left until twenty twenty six. Why I don't know, because
I think we take enough of our life and energy
in the Rigama rule of like just going through the motions,
and if we don't hyper fixate on a certain thing
for a period of time, just until it's finished or
(27:43):
just until it's buttoned up, like we'll just keep rolling.
And as moms we just like, oh, I haven't gotten
my haircut since Harlan was born. It's fine, and like
it all just goes on the back burner again and
again and again. And I love one just that I
saw it on TikTok, and I was like, yeah, we
could do that, but too, Like I love the intentionality
of it because I'm the last person I think about
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every single day.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, and I think that a lot of this obviously
it was inspired by the trend the Great lock in, right,
but also we had Kate Rope on our podcast and
that's coming out soon, right, and we had a good
conversation with her. We got to preview Kate Rope's book
Strong as a Girl, and I think that that motivated
(28:29):
us to look at things differently. And I think it's
I actually felt kind of guilty because like that coincides
directly with do you take care of yourself the same
way that you take care.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Of your kids?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
And I had like a little bit of like a
weirdness moment because we do. I think that I did,
and sometimes still do, approach parenting differently for Harlan than
I do for Wen because girl verus boy, and I
don't love that I do that. And then reading this
book like reaffirmed that to me and like motivated me
(29:04):
because I don't just want Harlan to do these things
better or have the ambition or the confidence or the
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
But the pressures and the social norms that society plays
them in girls inadvertently makes them feel some type of way.
And so if we can do these things for both
of our kids, right, Whalen is automatically going to have
a bit of an advantage because he's a boy, and
hopefully that that societal trend changes. But let's be serious,
We're in twenty twenty five and we're still here. So
(29:34):
I think that to your point of like kids watching
their parents make friends, which I don't. I think that
that person on TikTok, I want to have a chat
with that person. But like your kids do model your
behaviors and they look up to you and they see you,
and if they see us taking care of ourselves and
they see us motivated by these things, then it becomes
easier for them to set goals and for them to
stay motivated, and for them to recognize the power and
(29:57):
the purpose behind hard work, just like dedication. Right, it
doesn't have to be super crazy, Like it's not like
we're like, it's not a complete lifestyle shift for us.
It's like things that we've always done. It's just like
dialing them back in and paying more attention and doing
things daily with intention versus falling into a pattern and
a habit, and like allowing that to become such, and
(30:20):
then the kids fall into the same pattern. Like you
want what's best for your kids, you need to do
what's best for yourself so that they can understand what
that behavior looks like.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, one thousand percent. And I think the more we
appreciate where we're at, where we want to go, set goals.
I love when our kids set goals. I want ABC, mommy,
I want to do da da da da da like.
And all of this comes from the fact that they
watch us set goals and they watch us march towards them.
And the more that we can march towards them together,
(30:50):
I think, the better. But I'm excited that hopefully as
we start the new year, one, I'll be able to
tell everyone what rich people do with their money. I'm
obsessed with that. But two, we'll just be able to say,
here is the answer to that question. It's not spend it,
hon it's not good exploring correct right now? Yeah, they
(31:11):
vote terribly ruin our lives and try to hoard it
all and don't give it to people that need it
the most. Yet well not that stuff they do. They
don't pay any taxes. No, I'm not trying to be
that kind of rich person. I want. I want total wealth,
and total wealth starts with health. So I'm there first
health as well, health as well. And it really is
because there's nothing money can't buy me. If I can't
(31:33):
get out of bed and go for a walk and
play with our kids, I don't need money, like I'm
truly I love having the energy that I have during
the day. All that to say, this is the great lock,
and this is how we're going to do it. And
then the check ins that we have with each other, Yes,
we do the one to one hundred. We do that
every day, whether that's on this podcast or in real life.
I think it makes us a better couple. But we
(31:54):
also have started my new paper thing, which is a
weekly PowerPoint meeting you you. I do mine on Excel
though too, because I'm an Excel girly. I could formula
up anything. So this is where I'm gonna really bring
my like corporate America Anya's side into this couple and
into this house. And I think that's funny. Like you
ever seen the videos of people pitching a vacation to
(32:15):
their family on PowerPoint in front of their family. Have
you ever seen those? Yeah, I think that's hilarious. Like
step O the we're gonna start powerpointing in this house,
so maybe one day we'll start to.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
We call our business meeting boats and yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, we know we're going to pick a new one,
like we're gonna pick a new one for ourselves. Be original, girl,
I'm excited to PowerPoint. I'm excited to present my ideas
in a cohesive manner. I can be very scatter brain,
can't I be?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Well, all of that to say, I'm not super excited
about the PowerPoint meeting, but because I'm not super tech savvy,
I will bring the snacks and you can do the
power points, and in that we encourage people to join
us on Yeah, what are your goals?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Goals?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Share your goals in the comments, share your goals with
each other. Set achievable mini goals set I like, I
love that likenod advice and then a behag. Yeah, a
b hag is a big, hairy, ambitious goal. It needs
to be attainable, but it's like if everything aligned and
you do everything absolutely correctly, this is the goal I
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want to achieve, and then in there you set many milestones.
So our call to action for this week is for
all of you to join us on our journey of
becoming healthier and wealthier or whatever matters to you.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Lock in on your own thing. If your apartment is
not to your decor, style doesn't matter, like whatever it is.
If your friend group needs an audit and an edit,
if doesn't matter, what it is. Literally find something in
your life that you think could be ten percent better
and pick the next four months and join us on
this journey to just really review it, really lock it in.
(33:55):
I love the way you explain it because in my
life I call it my sand rocks and boulders, Like,
pick your boulders, put those in the cup, then fill
in with rocks, and then everywhere that there's white space,
just pour in the sand. Like every day, you could
be doing one tiny thing to get to a rock,
and then that rock could get you a little bit
closer to a boulder, and you kind of just keep
(34:16):
going until you have a completely full cup. So figure
out what your cup is, and then we're all going
to try to sand rocks and boulder it up.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
That's it for this week.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Thanks for listening, and if you like what you heard,
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Speaker 1 (34:37):
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Speaker 3 (34:41):
It really really helps until next week.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm Madison Packer and I'm on Your Packer and this
was These Packs Puck. These Packs Puck is a production
of iHeart Women's Sports and Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.
It's hosted by us Madison and on You Packer. Emily
Meronov is our senior producer and story editor. We were
mixed and mastered by Mary do. Our executive producers are
Jennifer Bassett, Jesse Katz, and Ally Perry.
Hi, everyone, Welcome to these packs puck. I'm Madison Packer.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm Anya Packer. Madison and I are both former
pro hockey players. We met through hockey and fell in love,
and now we're married with two awesome toddlers, ages two
and four.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
These days, we're opening up about the chaos of our
daily lives, between the juggle of being athletes, raising kids.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And all the messiness in between. So buckle the puck up,
because there is a lot to talk about. Hey, Maddie, Hello,
how you done? Good? Good? Good?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You know what. A couple episodes ago, we talked about
what we thought was going to be the outcome of
the first day of our kids' school. So I think
we should start by just celebrating our our little ones.
All right, let's do it, okay. One of our predictions
was that miss Bean McQueen, now three years old, was
going to have an accident, and she did not. She
(00:57):
did not on day one. She did not, Yes, she did.
Was day two, Day one, no accident. She came back
perfectly dressed. Yeah, it was day two and day three.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Then she subsequently had two accident days. But day one no,
no accident. No accidents this week, no knock on one
or at school knock on everything. We then forecasted that
the bean would also not eat her sandwich, which was
those girl correct. She did not even come close. She
had all of her punchy snacks and no sandwich. She
(01:28):
ate her gummies everything, She doesn't like any she doesn't
like sandwiches. This is the problem.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, it's sandwiches because she'll eat just the meat and cheese,
but she won't eat the sandwich and eat it if
it's a sandwich. But she won't eat the meat and
cheese off the sandwich if I make it into a sandwich.
It has to be like you know we need to do.
We need to go back to Costco and get those
meat tricks.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well that or today I just made her a cheese sandwich,
so we shall see if it's the meat or if
it's the bread, because she'll definitely eat the cheese. Okay.
We also predicted that Whalan might have a best friend,
which honestly, I'm shocked by the answer here. But he
has claimed no best friends.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, I'm a little surprised too, but I think it's
because he has lots of friends. He hasn't identified the
best friend yet, although he did identify the bully.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh he's got the bully, which is good to know.
I mean, keep your enemies close. But I said, okay,
so I sent you a video. I hate to say
that I read something and then send a TikTok video,
but I saw it on TikTok. It was a woman
who basically said, if your kids have a hard time
making friends, it's because they watch you and your ability
to like model to them what making good friends looks like.
(02:33):
And I immediately sent it to you and said, for
the rest of our lives, our kids are sol I'm
so bad at making friends, you know. Oh, I'm so good.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
She goes on to say, like, you should get out
of your car in the drop offline, say hi to people,
give hugs to acquaintances that you're friendly with. I was like,
I will be staying. I disagree with that video. I'm
just not good at making his friends. I don't think
I come across very cold. That's a crazy take. Well, yeah,
you come across cold. That's supposed to be. Yeah, but
(03:07):
you know you don't. You haven't.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You don't have a hard time making friends. You have
lots of friends.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I have friends.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I'm gonna next on that. Okay, next, I disagree with that.
Take okay, Graaitland doesn't have a best friend yet because
he's friends with everyone, which goes against everything that you're saying.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
He's the king of friends. And then the last one
was that Harley Bean was going to get into a fight.
Good to know, no fights. Ah.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
She did get in a fight, though. Remember it wasn't
the first week of school. It was the second week
of school. She got pushed to the ground by some girl.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You know we're gonna have some trouble with Harlan. She
is a pistol and she is thirty percent. She's a
thirty thirty eight percent, thirty eight and she growls.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
She didn't fight back when the girl pushed her to
the ground. That I asked her, I said, she goes
she was whatever her story of the girl she pushed
me to the ground. I was like, old, did you
hit her? Did you hit her before or after?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And she goes, no, because two wrongs don't make up?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Right there?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Right? Mom? Three left? No, Okay, we're done with that anyway.
First day of school predictions were fifty to fifty. I'm bummed. Honestly,
I thought we knew them better. But these little children
are going off into the wild and really blazing their
own trail, which is kind of amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, you can't be that upset because we were wrong
about the fight. Yeah, and so Harlan took the high road.
So it's like it's mixed emotions.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You know, mixed emotions for sure. Well, naturally we need
to go into what we know and love, and it
is our hockey hot take. Are you ready for my
thoughts here? Girl, let's hear it. Hockey hot take. My
hockey hot take is I could not be more excited
for the opportunities that I'm watching you get in the
(04:43):
broadcasting world because I love to see a knowledgeable former
player woman in the analytics discussion on the panel, like
really breaking it down. I think that you're crushing it.
So my hockey hot take is that you were a
tremendous higher. I think that you're doing an excellent job.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Ooh, I like that. I could not agree more. It
is a little nerve wracking, I will say the first
time I did it, it's mixed emotion when you get there,
because it's like you're trying not to be like a
kid in a candy store.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But it's so cool.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Like I signed the NHL wall when I did NHL
Network and like you're on the set and they're all
early things. And after my first time, I called my
talent manager and I'm like, how.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
DoD I do?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He's like, is it really good?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Really good?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
The only feedback is you didn't really seem to know
where you were supposed to look. And I was like, yeah,
that's because it was like robot cameras, so on that.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Tone, you got to tell us what you're learning, because
like we just watched the shows. I don't I've never seen.
I mean I've seen of like a studio, I've been
in them. I go with you when you get to go,
But what is it like on the other side, and
what are you learning slash? How are you preparing? Because
not to mention your first time, your first little dance
(05:59):
on NHL Network was during the playoffs. Pretty incredible, But
now you know, what are some things that you go
to on the next appearance and the next broadcasting thing?
Like what are you learning?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I think for me it's a way to diversify, Like
I feel like so often, especially in hockey, people just
give like the generic cookie cutter the answer or like
in the interview, like it's all the same stuff and
you need to find a way to diversify yourself. One
(06:30):
for me, it's being a former female player operating in
the men's hockey world, but also just like knowing your
stuff and picking out little nuggets and like when you
rewatch shows, you see what they talk about. A lot
of times they talk about the same thing. So if
you can point out different things or bring a fresh perspective,
bring something different. There are so many people that want
to do broadcasting, and not for nothing. It's not easy.
(06:53):
Like I think that people think that just because you
played the game and you can talk the game, like
you're not sitting there. I mean sometimes you are, but
like when you're on a broadcast and you're doing play
by play, that's very different from doing color. And when
you're doing color, it's very different from sitting on a panel.
I like the panel feel because it's just you have
to be more professional, right and sit up straight and
look at the camera and get used to the earpiece.
(07:13):
That was an adjustment for me was someone talking in
my ear because I struggle sometimes with ambient noise, like
listening to someone talk in my ear while I'm talking,
and like they're counting you down while you're trying to
finish your sentence, like that can get confusing. So just
adjusting to that, I would be terrible at that. Yeah,
that's the hard I think that's for me. That's the
(07:33):
hardest part is remembering where to look. Also, it took
me the first time I did the studio. It took
me like way too long to figure out that I
had a monitor right below me. I kept looking up
to see the video and like, I'm sitting next to
Dan Co and he kept looking down and I'm like,
how does he know what he's talking about? I'm like,
oh my god, there's a TV.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
H you know what. Familiarize yourself with the space, big guy.
By the way, Ken Danico, I had call out.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, I had the I had the privilege for my
first in studio NHL event or appearance was with two
people who I had worked with before, and so I
was able to walk in and have that familiarity and
just be very comfortable. And that goes a really long way.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It was Ken and whom Erica Watcher, and Erica Watcher
was pregnant, which is like the full circle of momming
women just taking over and being amazing. I remember being
so hyped that it was Erica and like that it
was just all of those things together. It just felt
really perfect, perfect timing. Yeah, so I also think that
(08:39):
something you said is really interesting to me because and
I will call out my new England Patriots Stefan Diggs
just did an interview where basically he said, I'm really
sorry that all training camp have been really quiet. I'm
trying to make my impression. I'm trying to get my
teeth cut. Like he's new to the Patriots, he's obviously
a very big name, Like we want to just see
a monster season out of him as a Patriots fan.
(08:59):
But he basically goes in and is like, I understand
I'm coming off standoffish, but I'm not going to do
an interview if I don't have anything good to say.
I'm going to try to give you thoughtful answers. I
want to reset this conversation. Like the media and the
players have such a humongous liability to tell good stories
and to work together really seamlessly. And obviously someone wrote
a smash piece about him because he was being basically
(09:22):
standoffish to the writer's perspective, and he's like, Yo, I'm
here to do a job, but like I'm sorry, Like
I'm going to own up on my part. I think
the part of the media that people don't realize, and
that's why I really love you as an option, is
how it can be distracting, It can be noisy, it
can be all of these things. So if you don't
handle it with the right grace from a media perspective,
(09:44):
it can be really difficult. So I love in hockey
that most of our media storytellers are former players because
I just think, like, you get it more.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot that goes into it too,
like research wise, if you try to talk to players,
find out what's going on in the room. Right, Like
there was an article written when I was on the
New York Sirens by the New York Times, and honestly,
it was really shitty, Like from a personal perspective, like
it got us attention for like what we were doing
(10:13):
for the team and for the game, and I got
a lot of individual attention. It didn't necessarily make me
look bad, but it made the team look terrible, right,
And like my teammates were upset, And you know, I
think that on one hand, the media has a job
to do, right, but like you also have to recognize
it when you're in someone's home and you're overhearing conversations
(10:33):
because you've been given access, like you have journalistic integrity
and you have an obligation to say, Hey, this is
going to be on the record, are we okay with that?
This is off the Like, there was very much blurring
of the line and we had like all access all
the time, and I felt like there were some liberties taken.
So I I just think that being on the other
(10:55):
side of it, I understand, like, yeah, drama sells, but
so does sess right, Like, I just think that you
get a lot further by championing the successes of the athletes,
really knowing the game, bringing a different perspective, not talking
about the same thing over and over and over, maybe
not even talking about the same players. Right, Like when
(11:16):
we were talking about the Stanley Cup Finals when I
was on NHL Network, we hadn't talked about Seth Jones
at all that and like pointing out that hey, that's
not necessarily a bad thing, Like the these are all
these things x y Z about this phenomenal player. And
I think that that's just to your point, like being
a former player recognizing those things, what would as an
(11:36):
avid hockey fan, what would I want to hear that part?
And then as a new hockey fan, how do I
explain it so that everyone can understand.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I remember back when the league didn't have enough broadcasters,
this is old NWHL days. They asked if I would
do color and who can't do color commentary? It's just
you know, listening and then saying breaking down a little bit.
But I remember very very clear, this is when we
were on Twitch. We had a lot of new fans
that weren't per se hockey fans, like they were new
(12:06):
to hockey and women's hockey all at once. So it
was a lot of making that accessibility slash interest if
you already got it, and bridging that gap. And it
was really fun for me because I could also watch
people convert into hockey fans, like in real time. But
I think that that is the part, especially from a
because now your talent, you're not just getting to be
(12:27):
a hockey person. You have to also be engaging, you
have to be interesting, you have to be funny at times,
like there's a lot of more dynamic that you need
to add. How much of it is your real personality
and how much of it is like do you go
into like broadcast Mattie Mode.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I think it's mostly I mean, like you don't, I
don't know. I guess I haven't been doing it long
enough to like really know. But I think that the
people that do best are themselves. And I think that
I bring a certain unicorn esque.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Bring a certain stuck to the stage.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You look at yeah, you look at Paul Bisonette or
PK Sue Band. Like some people think PK Suband is
too loud and too much. He is unapologetically himself and
it sells. Yeah, he's just a great guy. So I
think that trying to be the minute you try to
be something or someone different, or you try to if
you're unpolished, button up or you're super polished, like dress
(13:22):
it down or whatever, it is, the minute you try
to be something else. One and you don't get to
show up to work as yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That sucks.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But two, at some point you're gonna get tired of
like the mask, right, So you have to if you're
not right for the role. The role is not right
for you, and you just have to find a space
where you fit for them to you know, I think
that I bring a lot, like I think I bring
a lot to the to the table as I am.
I'm not going to put a dress on, I'm not
going to die my hair blonde. I'm going to be
(13:50):
me and you're gonna get what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I love that, well, you know what. I think that's like,
that's reminiscent of what we can take to every space
in our entire lives. It's so hard and not feel
like you can be yourself. So I love that for you.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, well I love it for me too. Speaking of them,
where are we at today?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You will check in? Oh I love our check ins.
I'm doing really well. I woke up early. I woke
up at seven, and that was before everyone in this house.
And I don't know that ten minutes of like being
by myself, brushing my teeth, getting up, putting on clothes
that I like, feeling good about myself, and then having
(14:33):
Harlan come in and you know, having her wake you
up and give you sweet kisses like I just had
the most delightful morning and I would say, I'm at
like a cool ninety. I need to go work out,
which is bringing me down just a touch. But I'm good.
I'm really good. I feel amazing. N I oh yeah,
I got on the ice.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yesterday like a seventy four. You've been so tired. You
you have anemia. Thanks Doc, You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I In case you can't see it, listeners might not
be able to see it, but you see that little
white spot there.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
On my share. What happened, dear?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I opened the bedroom door and the door hit my hat,
thus tipping my hat up. Door continues into my face,
chipped my tooth. Not great.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Everybody needs to know that you should leave at least
an arm's length to your own face and the door
that you are opening yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
That happened right after my therapy call. So it was
like a real dart to the face. You know what
I mean? Like you know that, Like that's saying like
it was an elephant.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Dart to the Nobody says that. No one says that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But you the tickets from a movie. Look it up,
run the tape it it hurts so badly. You were
on a work call. Appreciate whoever you were talking to
allowing you to mend my little tooth situation there. But yeah,
that didn't feel great. I also, I have been very
tired and I'm not working out today because i went
three days in a row and I'm quite three days
(16:10):
three days in a row, and I am quite sure.
I did your consistency code workout with you on Tuesday
and then decided that it was a good idea to
go to boxing on Wednesday, where Vic had me do legs.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Shout out to this, shout out to Chris Smith. Call back.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It was awful. Awful, Okay, wait, deadlifts, squats, bulgarians, walking lunches, lunges.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Hip thrust. What was the other? Oh? The hip thrust?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I used the hip thrust?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Miss?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Did you like it? Yeah? I don't care for that.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, I just eat on bar. But I've got bony hips,
you know how. My my hip bone, like the front
of my hip bones are like really pointy. Oh I'm
just sure.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm just tired, you know what.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So after all of that negative, I hit my protein goal.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
After all that negative, to be the still at a
seventy four is quite impressive.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I don't look at it as negative. I think of
it as learning experiences.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, shaping the future, proud of you. Well, actually, I
feel like that's the perfect place to kind of like,
we'll send it to ads and we'll come back because
we are getting into the viral I hate myself for
this whole sentence, the viral TikTok trend of the great
lock in. We are renaming it the pack up. It's
(17:27):
for the final four months of the year. We're going
to get into what we're doing and what we're focusing
on with four months remaining in twenty twenty five. Holy mackerel.
All right, you have four months left in the year
since September one. This is not September first, but around
(17:49):
that time, you have four months left of the year.
This viral trend is basically taking that four months and
then giving you a specific amount of time to lock
in on a specific thing. We are getting into it
in the Packer household because at the perfect time that
this quote quote trend is starting, our kids have gone
back to school. We have given ourselves the gift of
(18:11):
like seven uninterrupted kid free hours in the day where
we can lock in on something. I'm excited you thought
about bringing back our business meetings, which I love for us,
you know, we can kind of get back into the conversation,
really focus on whatever we want and then kind of
fix our priorities, set new priorities, maybe set some goals,
(18:32):
speak them into existence, practice a little gratitude. You mentioned
consistency code. I'm going to talk about what I'm doing
for my health and wealth, because health is wealth, you know.
But all that to say, we've got four months left
in the year. Pack if you could focus on one,
maybe two elements of your life individually, your life, what
(18:53):
are you choosing?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Am choosing? Well, I guess it's all the same, but
technically too physical health and mental health.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, it is overall health, and I'm obsessed with that.
All right, Well, how what's your jump start, what's your
what's your first catalyst, and maybe what's the long term
goal for each?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So for physical health, I'm doing daily creatine yes, hitting
my water goal, hitting my protein goal, and workouts my
workout goals. So I've been doing workouts with you lifts
alongside training with VIC for a little boxing event in November,
(19:41):
and my goal is to have five strength based workouts
a week, one meditation or recovery day, one off day.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I love that what's your water goal, what's your creating goal,
and what's your protein goal.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well, if I say my water goal, everyone's going to
know my weight.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
That would be protein.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
And water.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, then don't water is half?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
My protein goal is to eat my weight in protein
in grams in grams. My water goal is to drink
half my body weight in ounces.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Is that how much water we need? I am not
drinking enough water? Yeah, that's how much water you should
be drinking.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
And my creating goal is to increase from five milligrams
to ten.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Wow, I think I'm going to do a little bit
of creatine cycling. I've excited. Okay, So thank you for
sharing your goals. I love them. Okay, So then talk
about your mental health site because I love that you've
incorporated a little like Recovery Meditation Day. What are some new.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Health and well?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, health and well.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I have not been sleeping great, which you have self
diagnosed as any so I need to go get I
need to go to the doctor and get that figured out.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
But I have.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Found that when I don't sleep, I feel like miserable.
And we know that blue light is not good for
falling asleep. So incorporating some meditation, some more podcasts, reading
more good for your mental health. And I think the
workout thing lends itself to mental health, like if you
(21:14):
are taking care of your body physically like hormonally, you
should feel better. So I think it's just all like
working together, no alcohol.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It's a big one. So cool. Yeah, I mean I
think all of that is really important. I think for you,
even just practicing gratitude and taking a little time to
be proud of yourself, especially like post hockey career, I've
noticed I think it's hard for you to be proud
of yourself. You've always tethered your success to.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
You.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Did your team win, did you score? Did you stay
out of the box, like whatever the micro goal was
that we set per game. And I watch you go
through new life, and I think that that's always hard.
So I'm really out of you that you're putting gratitude
in that you're putting time to meditate, time to just
be introspective, because that is not easy post doing anything
(22:10):
as intensely as playing a professional sport.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Well, thank you, I appreciate that we are your goals.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well, one of them is definitely a big fund. Yeah,
that hurt my brain. One is definitely in the I
want to really lock into my health, my physical health,
mental health. I'm with you on the health thing. I
may be doing it a little bit differently, but I'm
really locking in there. And then on the other side
of the fence, I want to come up with a
goal financially that really makes sense, that is aspirational, that
(22:52):
is hard to do. I have wanted to buy something,
whether it's like a small business and an apartment in
an asset, Like is that real in my life currently?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
But like, is there a way that we can make
that work in this house possibly. I'm excited to basically
just take four months where I can sit down and
look at our finances in a way that gives me power,
not necessarily clarity. I don't need clarity. I understand them completely.
I don't always get like how rich people move, and
(23:29):
I want to know that more and that those are
my two big lock ins. Like I think all summer
we did a really big lock in on the house,
and like the physical, like the look of our home.
We did our backyard a bunch, I did a bunch
of gardening, Like those projects still are like creeping through
the year. But I think that they're clear to me,
(23:49):
So I don't really feel like I need to lock
in on those. I think I just need to invest
the same amount of time. But if I can get
better at those two other things, everything else will make
more sense to me. So those are my goals. I
want to take care of my health and I want
that ripple effect to go into a bunch of other places.
And then I also want to figure out how do
(24:11):
we retire at fifty two when we're still young and hot.
These are my thoughts. Fifty two, that's what I've decided.
I love. I love that for us, We'll be amazing,
We'll be young, we'll be hot, we can watch our
kids do whatever it is that they're doing at that
point in time. Yeah, I've decided fifty two feels like, wow,
that'd be fun.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Dive more into the health and I want to hear
your health your health goals.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Okay, because that's very Genese it is, but I do
feel like, hey, so I've always taken a couple Honestly,
maybe a year ago now, I looked into creating and
it's benefit on.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Your body, and I was like done. One article kind
of set me over the edge, and then I started
really looking at it, talked to my doctor about it.
Bone density goes up. It helps you know your water
retention and your muscles. It literally helps your brain functionality.
I've been big on the creating thing. I want a
creating cycle so I can boost up the muscle growth
a little bit. Because I have been doing Chris Smith.
(25:05):
We have had her on the podcast before. I've been
doing Chris Smith's Consistency Code, which is a health and
wellness reset. It's ninety days of your life. It's enough
time to make a habit. It creates, you know, a
really good feeling one. I just feel like I look different.
I take, you know, every week I take a picture
of myself just to send a Chris and be like,
look at how I'm progressing. I can already notice a
(25:27):
difference in my legs and my pants size and how
my arms look. Again. I feel like my old self.
So I'm doing that. I highly recommend It is a
completely e platform. You just kind of like buy a
subscription and then you can self guided go through it.
It has nutrition options, recovery, it has lifts, it has
gym training videos to explain it all. It's amazing. So
(25:48):
I'm doing that in the process of doing that, I'm
also simplifying a lot of the other things that I'm doing.
I'm taking a multivitamin, I'm taking one like other like
mushroomy style mental enhancement supplement. That is it. I've totally
simplified there. I've started really sticking to my really clean
(26:10):
eating water, couple dye cokes because I'm not perfect girl,
but I'm trying to get in that space where things
are simple. I don't necessarily need a ten step skin routine,
maybe two, maybe three, like make it easy for me,
because if I over commit to really being obsessed with something,
I won't do it all the way. I know myself.
(26:31):
I get bored of it. I'm tired of it. It's annoying,
and then I just let the products stack up in
my closet and then I throw them all away. So
I've decided to simplify my life. That is my health
and wellness journey. I love that.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
For the piles in our closet.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I'm the worst at it. I do think I'm a hoarder.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, you're under sync.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Gives me no, I'm one hundred percent of hoarder because
I think, like, oh, I'm going to start mixing my
own oils to make hair oil for my hair. So
then I have sixteen oils and each one does something different,
and then I'm like, what am I doing? I don't
want to do that, and you never use more than
you No, I don't use them, and then I just
I hoard them. So I'm a hoarder. I'm gonna try
(27:10):
to unlearn that skill. I'm not good at it, by
the way, but I've decided if I can let that go,
I'll be in a better headspace.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
So we are doing all of this.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Why cause we have four months left baby, four months
left until twenty twenty six. Why I don't know, because
I think we take enough of our life and energy
in the Rigama rule of like just going through the motions,
and if we don't hyper fixate on a certain thing
for a period of time, just until it's finished or
(27:43):
just until it's buttoned up, like we'll just keep rolling.
And as moms we just like, oh, I haven't gotten
my haircut since Harlan was born. It's fine, and like
it all just goes on the back burner again and
again and again. And I love one just that I
saw it on TikTok, and I was like, yeah, we
could do that, but too, Like I love the intentionality
of it because I'm the last person I think about
(28:05):
every single day.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, and I think that a lot of this obviously
it was inspired by the trend the Great lock in, right,
but also we had Kate Rope on our podcast and
that's coming out soon, right, and we had a good
conversation with her. We got to preview Kate Rope's book
Strong as a Girl, and I think that that motivated
(28:29):
us to look at things differently. And I think it's
I actually felt kind of guilty because like that coincides
directly with do you take care of yourself the same
way that you take care.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Of your kids?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
And I had like a little bit of like a
weirdness moment because we do. I think that I did,
and sometimes still do, approach parenting differently for Harlan than
I do for Wen because girl verus boy, and I
don't love that I do that. And then reading this
book like reaffirmed that to me and like motivated me
(29:04):
because I don't just want Harlan to do these things
better or have the ambition or the confidence or the
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
But the pressures and the social norms that society plays
them in girls inadvertently makes them feel some type of way.
And so if we can do these things for both
of our kids, right, Whalen is automatically going to have
a bit of an advantage because he's a boy, and
hopefully that that societal trend changes. But let's be serious,
We're in twenty twenty five and we're still here. So
(29:34):
I think that to your point of like kids watching
their parents make friends, which I don't. I think that
that person on TikTok, I want to have a chat
with that person. But like your kids do model your
behaviors and they look up to you and they see you,
and if they see us taking care of ourselves and
they see us motivated by these things, then it becomes
easier for them to set goals and for them to
stay motivated, and for them to recognize the power and
(29:57):
the purpose behind hard work, just like dedication. Right, it
doesn't have to be super crazy, Like it's not like
we're like, it's not a complete lifestyle shift for us.
It's like things that we've always done. It's just like
dialing them back in and paying more attention and doing
things daily with intention versus falling into a pattern and
a habit, and like allowing that to become such, and
(30:20):
then the kids fall into the same pattern. Like you
want what's best for your kids, you need to do
what's best for yourself so that they can understand what
that behavior looks like.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, one thousand percent. And I think the more we
appreciate where we're at, where we want to go, set goals.
I love when our kids set goals. I want ABC, mommy,
I want to do da da da da da like.
And all of this comes from the fact that they
watch us set goals and they watch us march towards them.
And the more that we can march towards them together,
(30:50):
I think, the better. But I'm excited that hopefully as
we start the new year, one, I'll be able to
tell everyone what rich people do with their money. I'm
obsessed with that. But two, we'll just be able to say,
here is the answer to that question. It's not spend it,
hon it's not good exploring correct right now? Yeah, they
(31:11):
vote terribly ruin our lives and try to hoard it
all and don't give it to people that need it
the most. Yet well not that stuff they do. They
don't pay any taxes. No, I'm not trying to be
that kind of rich person. I want. I want total wealth,
and total wealth starts with health. So I'm there first
health as well, health as well. And it really is
because there's nothing money can't buy me. If I can't
(31:33):
get out of bed and go for a walk and
play with our kids, I don't need money, like I'm
truly I love having the energy that I have during
the day. All that to say, this is the great lock,
and this is how we're going to do it. And
then the check ins that we have with each other, Yes,
we do the one to one hundred. We do that
every day, whether that's on this podcast or in real life.
I think it makes us a better couple. But we
(31:54):
also have started my new paper thing, which is a
weekly PowerPoint meeting you you. I do mine on Excel
though too, because I'm an Excel girly. I could formula
up anything. So this is where I'm gonna really bring
my like corporate America Anya's side into this couple and
into this house. And I think that's funny. Like you
ever seen the videos of people pitching a vacation to
(32:15):
their family on PowerPoint in front of their family. Have
you ever seen those? Yeah, I think that's hilarious. Like
step O the we're gonna start powerpointing in this house,
so maybe one day we'll start to.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
We call our business meeting boats and yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, we know we're going to pick a new one,
like we're gonna pick a new one for ourselves. Be original, girl,
I'm excited to PowerPoint. I'm excited to present my ideas
in a cohesive manner. I can be very scatter brain,
can't I be?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Well, all of that to say, I'm not super excited
about the PowerPoint meeting, but because I'm not super tech savvy,
I will bring the snacks and you can do the
power points, and in that we encourage people to join
us on Yeah, what are your goals?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Goals?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Share your goals in the comments, share your goals with
each other. Set achievable mini goals set I like, I
love that likenod advice and then a behag. Yeah, a
b hag is a big, hairy, ambitious goal. It needs
to be attainable, but it's like if everything aligned and
you do everything absolutely correctly, this is the goal I
(33:22):
want to achieve, and then in there you set many milestones.
So our call to action for this week is for
all of you to join us on our journey of
becoming healthier and wealthier or whatever matters to you.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Lock in on your own thing. If your apartment is
not to your decor, style doesn't matter, like whatever it is.
If your friend group needs an audit and an edit,
if doesn't matter, what it is. Literally find something in
your life that you think could be ten percent better
and pick the next four months and join us on
this journey to just really review it, really lock it in.
(33:55):
I love the way you explain it because in my
life I call it my sand rocks and boulders, Like,
pick your boulders, put those in the cup, then fill
in with rocks, and then everywhere that there's white space,
just pour in the sand. Like every day, you could
be doing one tiny thing to get to a rock,
and then that rock could get you a little bit
closer to a boulder, and you kind of just keep
(34:16):
going until you have a completely full cup. So figure
out what your cup is, and then we're all going
to try to sand rocks and boulder it up.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
That's it for this week.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Thanks for listening, and if you like what you heard,
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Speaker 1 (34:37):
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Speaker 3 (34:41):
It really really helps until next week.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm Madison Packer and I'm on Your Packer and this
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