This is... Barbara Corcoran

Paris and Shark Tank’s Barbara Corcoran get ready for the ultimate #BossBabe conversation. The two discuss their path to achieving success, how to discover and work with talented people and how to become the ultimate entrepreneur. Ever wondered why the Comfy was the discovery of a lifetime for Barbara? She explains it all! In her candid conversation with Paris, the Shark Tank superstar also admits to having a celebrity crush and why it went all kinds of wrong. Paris plays with the possibility of ever appearing on Shark Tank. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Paris. Well, today is a very special day.
It's Hunter's birthday. Happy birthday. Yes, thank you so much,
thirty years old. That's hot. What is it a hot one?

(00:24):
Very hot? What are you doing for your birthday? I'm
going to have dinner with my family tonight and then
at some point, you know, I'd love to have like
a little friends thing. But it's tricky, you know, it's
it's it's all up in the air right now. I'd
love to get I wish we were in the same
room for for my birthday, but you know there's some

(00:47):
I got exposed to somebody, so but I don't have it.
It's good, just just what did you think I'm Someone
flashed me in Central Park and so now I can't
be in the same room. As you know, I had
a friend who ended up getting COVID and it's been

(01:09):
two weeks, so I don't have it. But I feel
like it's just better to be safe and sorry. Nobody
wants to be the person who gave Paris Hilton COVID.
It's just not the role I want, no me neither.
So thank you for being at home on your birthday
and not being here. We'll be with each other soon. Uh,
how is h How was your trip fun? It was

(01:30):
really fun. We went to Miami and then to Creas, Mexico.
So it's very romantic and um, just beautiful the weather
Miami so nice. When you when you and a carter
go out and you guys get out of the house
and um, go on a trip like that. Is it
does it feel just like so crazy just because of quarantine,

(01:52):
Like does it feel like it's like all these little
like it just feels like little honeymoons? Or do you
guys prefer the homebodied life as a couple. I'm so
used to traveling my entire career that I'm loving just
being at home and I've turned into like this introvert
who doesn't want to go anywhere. But we had to
go for a business trip. Um, so it was work.

(02:13):
But every day is like a honeymoon for us. It's
very romantic, so very lucky. That sounds great, That sounds nice. Well,
I'll get there at some point. One day. One day, Um,
I almost wanted to gazaliate your birthday party, and then
I decided I don't know if I'm her type, So
we'll the next birthday party here. Yeah, I'll get a

(02:35):
list together of whose comings so you can you can
prepare early. That's like gonna make me the most stressed.
But we have such a good episode today, maybe the
guest on our episode will be interested in um spending
the rest of her life together with me. You want
me to try to hook you up. Yeah, we'll see
if we can get her to be open to the idea.

(02:57):
It's Barbara Corkoran from Shark Tank. I love her, wonderful entrepreneur. Yeah,
she's fantastic. Yeah, I love that show, so I'm excited
to talk to her. She's such a boss. Yeah, and
hopefully we get you on Shark Tank too, because it
doesn't make sense that you haven't been on there yet.
That would be cute. It would be so fun to
go on Shark Tank as an entrepreneur and be on

(03:18):
the one episode that Paris Hilton is on, and you
get Paras Hilton to invest in your company, and now
you get to work with her for potentially the rest
of your life. I like this plane too. Let's see
what happens. All right, let's see what happens. Let's bring
her in. Well, welcome Barbara, thank you for coming on
the show. My pleasure. Happy to be here. Yes, you're

(03:40):
looking beautiful today like a boss. Thank you. It's Hunter's
birthday today too, Happy birthday, Hunter. Yeah, it's my birthday.
I'm I'm officially thirty years old. Wow, Jesus thirty, the
whole life's ahead of you, my god. Really yeah, I
don't feel that. I kind of felt old. What a

(04:02):
waste of time that was? Seriously, well, I just I
just talked about it on my Instagram. But I had
to get some spine shots like for cortisongs. That's having
back problems. And then I ended up with the hiccups
for forty eight hours. So thirty is not started off hot. Well,
how innocent hiccups for forty eight hours. It's the cutest

(04:24):
problem to have. You probably had your best shot at
catching more girls in those forty eight hours. Hickup. I
love that all right? Well, I hope, so, I hope.
So we've got some fun questions, right, yes, So, Barbara,
what did you want to be when you're a little girl?

(04:44):
Not a thing. I had no idea. I really didn't
have a single thought on it. How about you? What
did you want to be? I wanted to be a
veterinarian because I've always just been obsessed with animals. And
then I moved to New York and my priorities chain
ed and I realized I could become a very successful businesswoman,
and then I could have a lot of pets. Every

(05:06):
little girl loves animals, I think, right, well, yeah, that's
a good one. I don't want to walk it. That's
what happened with my kids. How many kids do you have? Two? Yeah? Once?
Were they the two that were helping you a second ago?
Get this all set up? I know, But they look
like kids. That's Emily in London in my office. No,

(05:28):
they're like kids. Her name is London, well not really,
I call it London. Her real name is Brittany. Her
last name is Paris. So I didn't like your name.
When I hired, I said, from now on, your London,
and she was in mine. I'm naming my daughter London
when I have my first daughter. Really my favorite name.

(05:49):
Better see what your husband has to say about it.
Moms usually get the wrong way, though. Yeah, I like London.
Thank you. What are your kid's names? Tom after my
favorite brother Tom, and then Kate because it's a short
name and she just looked like a Kate. My husband
named her a Sky. I always wanted to dine with

(06:10):
the name of Sky. She had dark hair, olive skin,
and brown eyes that every guy who dates is going
to be disappointed when he meets her. You know, you've
made it in Sky, not my kid at all, than
that's cute. I used to watch Shark Tank, uh, like
every single week with my family. We would all sit down.

(06:31):
My mom is like, my mom thinks you're probably one
of the greatest people on the planet. I love Shark
Tank too. I think it's such an inspirational show and
you're just incredible on it. So I'm always insecure on
Shark Tank. Interesting enough, I don't think I'm ever in
that seat where I'm not scared. And it's been twelve years.

(06:52):
I keep waiting for me to come into my own.
It doesn't quite happen. You know, what's the insecurity feel like? Like?
What is it? I feel like? Well, first of all,
I'm afraid of losing your money because I've lost so
much money on so many deals. But in the end,
I've made money, So that's number one in my head
because it's real money, it's not fake money. And secondly,

(07:12):
I want to make sure I have great people that
I that I choose, And you know, you can't always
tell that in that interview because it's focused on the
money of business in and what I really found after
all the years are doing it, the great people always
make me money. It has nothing to do with whether
the business makes any sense. It's just I could really
pick out great people. I always make money, so and

(07:32):
I'm always afraid of maybe choosing the wrong one or
missing out on the good one. You know. So maybe
maybe by year forty, we've been doing it thirteen years,
maybe I'm gonna really be secure and get in there
and just make my judgements fast. You know. I like
that you choose from your heart. I think that's nice
to choose from your heart. And I've noticed that about

(07:53):
you on the Show's al right, it ain't no good.
I've had two husbands, you know, Yes, the heart. When
when you say you get nervous about the money, do
you notice any difference between someone who's asking for fifty
grand and someone who's asking for one point five million?
Or is it not? Is it just the prospect that

(08:16):
gets you that same amount of nerves if they're asking
for fifty grand, I love them ten times more than
someone asking for a million five Oh for sure. Yeah,
because it's a cheap buying. You could spread your money around,
you get more entrepreneurs in your stable, so to speak,
and have more fun with them. But if someone asked
for a lot of money, they almost always offering very

(08:37):
little interest because they usually have big sales, which I
don't like. But I'm never quite sure what I'm going
to do to make it better for them. You know,
when I get a young entrepreneur has very little sales,
not asking for a lot of money, if I get
a good snapshot in my head about what I could do,
I could I could make a huge difference in their future.
And so I like that for all of those reasons.

(08:59):
A bit sign they come out and asked for a
lot of money for me the way I like to invest. Now.
Mark Huban is a different guy. You know, the more
money you asked for Mark and the less you give him,
the more excited that man becomes. Because he's got so
much money he just could throw it around like crazy.
He's very hard to compete with if he wants to
deal that. You want what's the most want to ask

(09:21):
for the most anyone has asked for him. I'm not
sure I know exactly, but probably, uh two million, you think,
I think five. I think we had a five million
dollar technology deal, which was good because I sat there
and listened for forty five minutes to the pitch. I
had no idea what they were talking about, so I
was gonna lose my money on that one. Once they

(09:43):
go through into the technology or it's like, yeah, I
just don't even know what they're talking about when they
go too deep, I kind of get it peripherally. Uh. Now,
Paris would be great at that, right, he'd be great
at analyzing a technology deal, because, in a way, you
invented social media I think, or at least my day
when you were getting started as a kid, I thought, boy,

(10:04):
you got it early first, and you got the first
thing go, you know, being famous for being famous, I mean,
nobody ever heard of that before. Seemed bizarre the concept, right,
So you would get it, you know, you would probably
get whatever is going on right now. I'm not I
wasn't you know that good at that. I'm still not
so good at that. So I stick with the people,
the kinds of businesses that I think. I really clearly understand,

(10:26):
you know, like a product, like a widget, something that
takes a low I Q, well, thank you, I appreciate that,
do you? You said, I'm just so curious about this,
And I think this question goes for both of you.
But I think a lot of people think, because Barbara,

(10:46):
you started with nothing, you asked for a thousand dollar investment,
and then you built your you know, empire. I think
paris different upbringing but has clearly built her own success.
And I think a lot of people assume that when
you get money and you get the things you kind
of have always wanted, that you don't worry about money anymore.
But from what you kind of said, money is still

(11:07):
something that you're cautious about and that you, you know,
you really spend a lot of time picking what you
do with it. And is that true? Yes? And no,
I mean I spend money like it's water. I was
raised by mom with ten kids, and she was always
living hand to mouth and my dad was always losing
his job. But her attitude tour money always wasn't all
of her kids. She embedded it in us was money

(11:29):
was meant to be spent, So we always got our
newer jobmas at Christmas Weather. We had money to get
them or not, she would charge them, you know. But
my attitude to her money, uh is it is important.
It is important to me for a couple of reasons. One,
I worked so hard for rebucket I having made. You know,
when you don't have anything, you really struggle to make

(11:50):
your first ten, a second hundred, you know, so you
don't forget that. You you remember the work ethic behind,
how hard you had to work to get it, not
that it makes you a hoarder. Because I'm very good
at taking risks. I'll throw money at anything that I
just have a good, good gut reaction to, assuming I'm
going to make money, and I usually have a good
nose for making money. The part that I'm no good
at is saving money. We're making money with money, that's

(12:14):
a whole different thing. I'm great at making money in
a business, I know, I just have a natural gift
at that. But if I get millions of dollars and
invest it, I will usually choose the wrong person. I
usually will choose the wrong investment vehicles. So I've really
learned to be cautious. Six I'm as bad at that
as I am of making the money in the first place.
You have to I think in the end, you just

(12:34):
have to know. You know where you're good, and I
clearly know where I'm good and where I'm terrible. You
know that was a long answer right to your little question. Right,
that's perfect answer. Good Hunter, I like it. This is
the first time we've done it, like well, not together,
so it's so weird, like not being a punter here
because oh well, I feel like I'm when you're virgin voyage.

(12:56):
I'm pleased to be part of it. Welcome to the voyage.
We prefer to be arms length away from each other.
But we're figuring it out. This won't we won't. We
probably won't be doing this again. You know, I had
a partner that looked like Paris. Where I had a
partner that looked like Hunter, and I was married to
either of you are dating me, I would insist you
be separate at all. Uh No, I've met I've met

(13:20):
Paris as fiance, and I can tell you right now
he has nothing to worry about with me. He's got
about a foot and a half on me, and then
just a whole bunch of everything else. He's a handsome dude. Well,
guess what else he's got on you? Carrot ring. Yeah,
he's got me by about twenty three and a half carrots.
I don't know if I'm if I'm doing that. But

(13:43):
does he have your teeth is the question? Yes? Yeah,
I think he's got nice to you. I've got nothing, Barbara,
I am in this scenario. You pushed me under the rug.
It's good and I'm happy there. Okay, you're also very secure,
I see, Yeah, it's nice. I mean working with Paris,
I feel like you gotta have someone who's secure because
she's uh, she definitely no matter where she goes, the

(14:07):
spotlight finds her. And I like just looking. I like
getting some of the reflections off of the off of her. Um.
And it's nice. But Paris, I wanted to ask you,
do you what about you? And like how you were
raising money? Uh? And do you spend it like water?
Now too? Are you cautious at all? Um? Growing up?
I think my parents they really just didn't want to

(14:28):
spoil my sister and I and my little brothers. And
I think when you come from a privileged family, you
can do that, but you will destroy your children. So
I'm really happy and lucky that My parents really instilled
hard work, ethic and me and I feel like that's
something that runs in my blood. And ever since I
was a little girl, I wanted to do big things.

(14:48):
I just be curious. So how is a parent, how
can you really protect your child from the affluent world
of growing up in and the values that come with that,
you know? I remember Robert her Chevik was telling me
the first time his plane was broken, his jet and
his kids went on the first class section of a
regular airline. His two kids turnounds and what are all

(15:10):
these people doing here? I mean, that's kind of like
an amazing reality, right. How do you really protect a
privileged child from not being not realizing they have very
privileged and all the values that go with it. I
think it's a huge challenge. I think with my family,
they just really just instilled that at me and wanting
to work hard and also doing a lot of just

(15:32):
charity work and seeing the other side of the world
and really being exposed to that from a young age. Wow,
there's a lot, Yeah, but I think it's important to
do importantly, those are all conscious moves they made, right,
that just doesn't happen in a typical family. Yeah, We're
not a typical family at all. Barbara, what about with

(15:54):
your kids, were you have have you have you taught
about money? I don't. I don't really talked to them
about money. And uh, you know, it's kind of like
my two kids are different. My son Tommy's twenty eight,
and when he was growing up, I had him at
forty six. I was a very older mom. Uh. And
I was well known in New York because of my
real estate business. But that's like local notoriety, and so

(16:17):
people said, oh you you're you're the son of the
real estate lady. That's the most of what he would hear.
And also because I was so insecure on any given
year where we made money, which was probably only the
last three years that I owned the business, because I
was always plowing money back in so I was always
living like a middle class person, putting the money in
the business. So in his mind, he grew up as

(16:38):
a middle class kid in New York City with everyone
around about me a lot more money than him. But
by the time my Kate came along ten years later,
um she was born into shark tank. I gave her.
I didn't give birth to most to credit for her
birth mom it, that's weird. When I adopted Kate, she
it was the first year of Shark Tank, so she

(16:59):
doesn't remember any other time with people your mother's on
Shark Tank, and so it's a harder protection for Kate,
and she on a couple of occasions have said to me, well,
I'm really not friends with those two girls anymore. They
really I could tell they liked me because of you.
So my son didn't have to wrestle with that value system.
You know. He was liked for how well he threw

(17:21):
a football or something, you know. But Katie is like,
I think she's conscious of separating, and that's a tricky
for a kid, you know, and Kennedy value a child's eco,
so I think it's And then also, we have a
lot more money now than we had when Tommy was born,
and so we go on extravagant vacations, we have multiple homes,
and it's just it's difficult. I think it's easier. And

(17:44):
maybe this is crazy to say, but I think it's
easier to raise a poor kid than a rich kid. Well,
I think it's less challenging because a lot of stuff
is taken care of it for you as a parent,
you know work. I think comparisons, you know, seeing hardship,
you get pretty much buffered from that when you are

(18:04):
an athlete. Family, unless someone like your parents went out
of their way, it sounds like to expose you to
things they wanted to. You know, I should have thought
of that sooner. I never thought of it. You know,
it's it's actually very good advice. Too late for me.
Maybe it's not another baby, I'm only seventy three. What
the heck, Yeah, I agree with that. I've you know,

(18:29):
just growing up in l A and just seeing just
a lot of these kids who have grown up in
these families, they just if they haven't been raised in
the right way, they just when they're an adult, they
don't even know how to live for themselves. They're spoiled,
they're not happy, They've never done anything for themselves. And
I just feel bad for them because they don't really
have true happiness because everything has just been handed to them.

(18:52):
And you know what, l A. I think it's another
whole layer on that stuff. It's such a wacky kind
of a world to grow up. And I think I
was exposed to it through Shark Tank, but I was
already grown, had my success, so I wasn't gonna be
whacked out by it, you know, but with kids growing
up there, that's so odd. It's kind of I always
feel like in New York. The value system in New

(19:14):
York was what do you do for a living? Which
is another way of saying how much money do you have?
In l A, I got the land that lay to
the land really quick when I started going out there
to shoot the show. It's kind of like, are you famous?
That's the commodity, you know, Fame, not money, I think
is a big one in l A. That's so that's
even a tougher one for kids, I think, you know,
to define and to measure up against. Definitely dangerous town.

(19:41):
Don't want London growing up here as a teenager for sure.
Oh yeah, great traffic, beautiful traffic, brutal. You guys shoot
Shark Tank in l A. We do every year, but
this last year we did in Las Vegas in a
giant bubble that was built for a basketball or football team,
I forget which. So we were really far apart. We

(20:02):
have microphone, so like Mark Cuban and my left was
twenty ft away, Kevin was twenty ft to my right.
You know what you say. What worked out? It was
a really almost seem surreal. They wouldn't let us party
at night to see each other. I'm sure the normal
plan every night is for you guys to party together. Yeah. Well,

(20:23):
I'm not speaking on that. That was the plan anyway.
But we got this show in the camp, which is
great because so few shows were being produced and as
a result, are you know, our ratings are through the roof.
I don't think it's we've gotten better. I think it's
just they're less shows competing, you know this, particularly new shows. Yeah.

(20:48):
I think also because people are so inspired and they
want to learn, and I feel then you watch that show,
you really learned so much about business and building a
brand and what you can do, and people get inspired.
So I think, you know, right now, people are going
through so much in the world and something like this
gives them hope. Paris your business. Why don't you go
on as a guest shark? Really, we've had a few ladies,

(21:10):
but what about you? I would love that. Right after
we hang up, I'll call Clay. He's my boss. He's
an executive producer. He decides all that stuff. Perfect. Yeah,
you could do You could be whatever you want from
your business is right as a calling card. Thank you? Yes, yeah,
well my word doesn't mean anything. I'm not the boss,

(21:30):
but at least I'll do the introduction, like you need
an introduction. But really I could see that so well.
But I wouldn't want to be on the set you're on.
No way, I don't want to compute. I'm gonna say
I'm one condition. I'm not there when she's there. Now
you're beautiful, Oh, I'm sure. And people won't dare compare
you with me? Of course, no, thank you. You could

(21:53):
be compared to Mark or Kevin. That's it. Let compare
hisself to you. She's got she she has more confidence
than I have. Love. This is Paris, This is Paris.

(22:21):
You've been on Shark Tank for a while now. We
kind of touched on it about how you um got
a thousand dollar investment, right, who did you get that
investment from at the beginning of your career and tell
us what happened with that. Well, I was a diner
waitress on a counter and a guy walked in in
order a cup of tea, and he became my first boyfriend.
I was twenty three at the time, was a little

(22:41):
slow out of the gate and he gave me a
ride home. And a year later he said, hey, why
don't you start real estate company? Wasn't my idea, you
know I was. I was working already as for two
developers in New York, answering the phone, which has nothing
to do with selling, of course, you know, you're just
answering them all day. But he said, you've got a
great personality. You'd be great as a real sick salesman.

(23:04):
I'll give you the thousand dollars to start, And I said,
why not. I had twenty two other jobs. You know.
The worst that happened. I went back to the diner right,
big deal, and that became my first business until he
left me and married my secretary. That was a surprise
after seven years after raising his three kids. You know,
I'm like what I wanted to get even with him

(23:25):
and her. They got married right away, and then she
shared the office with Ramon Simone, which was a killer
to go into work on the park but not her
and see them giggling and holding hands. It was a heartbreaker,
but anyway, it was good because it got me so angry.
After a year, I ended the business. We divided into
and that's when I started the corking group. And I

(23:46):
was thirty at the time. I had on the other
business for seven years. With Ray, he owned fifty which
gave him, I'm sure you know, control. So I wasn't
allowed to fire Tina and his wife. I would have
liked to have fired her just because I couldn't see
that sounds like a nightmare only then, you know. But
now I look back, and what's a big deal. I

(24:07):
should have walked in on week one and said them over,
let's end this. But I didn't have the confidence. But
finally I did, and that was the beginning of the
Corcoran Group. And you know, none of that would have
happened if I didn't have that a bump in the road.
And that's what bumps in the roads are. You know.
You always look back and you realize why they were important,
why they're good. Well you justify them. If they weren't,
you figure angle somehow. But that was how I got

(24:30):
to start really in my own firm. Uh And that's
that was the firm that I had the great success with.
You know, everything in life happens for a reason. It
sounds like my mother, It's true. I've had so many
terrible things happened to me, and terrible things happened, but
then good things come of it. I wish she was

(24:51):
a fortune teller who specialized in that particular category, so
that when bad things happened, you could quickly go to
her or he and ask, what the what's the upside
here going to be? Because that's the bad side of it.
You don't know what the upside is. It just feels
like a hole when you're in it, right, Yes, it
feels too dark until you're looking back at it. Then

(25:13):
it just doesn't seem like a very bad hole at all. Right,
So then once you split the group, what do you
think it is? Because you're you're kind of making it
seem like, you know, this wasn't even real estate, wasn't
your forte Obviously, it wasn't something you were working in.
So what made you so successful in this field and
in this world? Well, I think you ask anyone who's

(25:35):
successful in anything. It's not one answer. It's a combination.
You know, you get the trifecta, so to speak. Um, definitely,
my greatest greatest strain always was and just happened real estate.
It happened in the jobs I had. It happened in
my neighborhood. I always chose good people. I had a
good nose for people, So I think when I started

(25:55):
my company, the first one and then again the second one,
I had a nose seeing talent where other people didn't
see it. And thank god I could, because in those
days we had giant companies in New York City, the
Guerrillas owned by the Old Boy Network, and uh, I
had no hope of getting anybody good as an employee

(26:16):
or a salesman, because I usually got people who were
losers and other things and kind of came like as
the last stop into real estate on a commission basis.
So I usually had to be careful choosing a few
diamonds among a lot of rough people. But I was
able to make a team of them too, And I
would say that was the second thing but that I

(26:36):
got from my mother. But she had those ten kids
and we were a team, and we were really, i'd say,
the most happy family in town. I mean, we had
our struggles like every family in town, but she made
a good team of us, and she was a powerful leader.
So I had that great advantage watching my mother navigate
us and I kind of just did a knock off

(26:58):
on her in business, and all the same rules apply.
People's smarts, motivating people, giving recognition, U knowing an opportunity,
No it's not going to be there the next are you,
but to jump on it. Getting over failure. I mean
I watched m to come back up from you know,
financial failure in our family units so many times, uh
that I was able to see how that looked, you know, uh.

(27:21):
And what a huge advantage is to have a powerful
role model. You know that you could take in your
hip pocket. And so all those things have a lot
to do with building a business. But my other great thing,
if I could brag, not that I'd like to brag,
but I'm getting more comfortable as I get older, is
I was very good at marketing. Just like Paris. You know,

(27:42):
you made a brand of you didn't even need the
rest of your name. You could have done it was
just a namep right, Um. I made a brand, uh,
publishing reports and becoming an industry expert because there were
no stats out there was before the internet, so people
needed stats on real estate, and I published a report
turned them out in amat churn amount. So anyone in
the media business. There was no social media then, but

(28:05):
anyone for the Wall Street chair in New York Times,
Crane's Business Week came to me for numbers, and so
I was always quoted. So when we had thirty people,
I looked like I had a hundred, We had a hundred,
people looked like I had five hundred. When people used
to coming for an interview, they used to walk in
and goes, this is it. Because our presence of the
media was so big compared to what we actually had,
you know. And then so that really pushed the growth

(28:27):
of the company. I kind of had a run like
hell to catch up to the image that I created
that wasn't really true, but you run like crazy to
fulfill it, right and then uh, and then that really
gave us a powerful brand, and that also enabled me
to sell the business. It wasn't worth nearly what I
sold it for, I don't think, but they were paying
such a premium for the power of the brand and

(28:48):
built it under it. You know. Yeah, that was a long,
long answer, right belong us so far that's what we love.
Though we like long answers, that's the point I don't.
I like short answers. Yeah, Paris what about you? What?
What are like? What are some things that helped you
find success? Because your industry is very odd, it's you've

(29:11):
got a thousand different directions going at all times. So
so what has helped you find the success you have now?
For me, I just do what I love and what
I'm passionate about, and I love that I get to
do so many things like whether it be modeling or designing,
or doing art or acting or deejaying or music, or
being a businesswoman or writing a book or I just

(29:33):
I feel like being an Aquarius. I'm just a naturally
creative person and it's amazing that I get to do
so many things that I love. So it just doesn't
even feel like work when you really love what you're doing.
So yeah, sounds too easy. I'm jealous. I want to
be an Aquarius? Is that the key? Yes? What about

(29:54):
your COVID How how have you been during all this? Well,
you know, uh, for business, it's been terrific for me
because when COVID hit, we went into overdrive with the
team I have at worked. We really got out there
and as a result, we really increased our business. You know,
So thanks for that. The sad thing about COVID was

(30:15):
I didn't see my son for probably seven months, which
is a heartbreaker. You know. I saw every week he
was here in the city, but he was afraid of
contaminating his father and his mother. My daughter was home
from school and home schooled, not homeschool, online school, terrible
for every kid. No kids doing well on that. And

(30:35):
we live right over Central Park, right above where they
built all those tents, so that, for me will always
be my memory of COVID. The the eerieness of looking
out our window at night and seeing the bright lights
of those tents was kind of it was like a
movie scene and seeing the bodies coming and out and
the doctors hustling, and it's just freaky. When those tents

(30:57):
went down and lead left big bear spots of their
footprints all over that section of the park, I was
so happy they got sought and covered it. I mean,
even looking at those blank spots still bothered at me.
And then the other memory of COVID, which was difficult,
was we're very close tom Outside and my hospital by
five blocks. I used to count the sirens in an hour.

(31:20):
I mean there was sometimes when I heard forty someone
sirens in an hour. Everybody go to the hospital with people,
so it just seemed like you were in a war
zone up there, you know. But I mean, we have
a beautiful home, and I had a terrace so we
could go outside. Most people couldn't go outside. Um and
I had the park across the street, so I knew
how fortunate I was. I was so thankful. But the

(31:41):
whole atmosphere being here in New York was such a
I think the closest I hope I ever get to
a war kind of like an invasion. It felt like
that to me. Really, Yeah, stop making me talk about it,
giving me the e b G bees were almost sorry,
Do I feel like you're one of the nicer sharks? Like,

(32:02):
you know, not to put you in that thing, but
I feel like if I went on the show, I
would want to do a deal with you, and then
second probably Mark, that would be my second choice. But
I feel like with you, there's like there would be
a relationship, there would be an actual like some sort
of like I'm sure it's all every shark has that

(32:23):
relationship with their um. Well, you'd be surprised. Um. I
do think I have a great relationship with my entrepreneurs.
The good ones, the ones that aren't so good they
can't find me. But here's the rub. Everybody, every shark

(32:44):
has her own style, right, Um marks a phenomenal delegator.
So he'll have a relationship with his entrepreneurs and be
there for them whatever they need. But it's not like
they feel like he's just their chunk. And maybe that's
because he has billion dollars and that makes a difference, right,
probably weighs and I guess, um, you know, Laura, Laura,

(33:07):
I don't know. I can't. I still want to get
a read on Laura. I'm still figuring that one out.
Um Robert Herschevik wants the party with you or wants
to ride in a fast car? When do you have time?
And then who do I leave? Damon is entirely genuine.
What you see is what you get, uh, you know.
He just wraps himself around his entrepreneurs. He sees himself

(33:29):
in them. And I think that's what Damon and I
have in common. We we see ourselves in the entrepreneurs.
Like when that door opens, I'm always hoping to see
myself somebody who's going to get a lucky break, who
hasn't had a lucky break, yet you know, because for
me it's more exciting. I could like be a fairy
godmother and get the satisfaction of feeling like I made
a difference. And isn't that what we all like to do,

(33:50):
is make a difference in whatever we pursue, right, yes,
and so so Damon is very much that way too,
you know. And then who did I leave at all?
Miss You're wonderful? Who's not wonderful at all? The Bully?
You know, he's so essential to that show. Without Kevin, Uh,
this show I don't think would be half of what
it is. I hate to give him that credit, but

(34:11):
I do believe that he was running for whatever the
top offices in Canada. I don't think they call it
president prime ministers in Canada. I was forgetting whatever. And
when he was making his run for that, he didn't
make it because what do you know, he doesn't speak French.
You have to speak French to your prime minister for Canada.
I don't know what he was thinking, but anyway, he

(34:32):
was not on a number of our shows a couple
of summers back and uh, because we weren't allowed to
buy law to have a political candidate, right, and it
was not the same. Without Kevin, you needed a bad guy.
You needed the bully that's lurching around the corner that's
going to scare everybody for the show to have teeth.
And it made me doubly appreciate Kevin. But what's interesting

(34:53):
about Kevin is off air he's the biggest pushover. His
persona on the show is so mean and are I'm
after my money, my money, you know that's his old thing.
But if you were to have a dinner with Kevin,
he's a great fun dinner host and a real pushover. Yeah,
I love that. What was the craziest idea that you

(35:15):
ever had pitched you? Oh, there's so many, so many
that hit the dust that and show which I think
people at home would love him. We had I could
rattle off a list. We had the chubby lady selling
lipstick who swore that her lipstick made you lose weight
day one, whose parents right away it's like, oh really okay.
Then we had the whacka doo dentist and he claimed

(35:39):
you brush your teeth with his toothpaste. And what was
his claim? I think you had a baby or something.
Something's really weird, Like you gotta be kidding. And then
we had the oh, the brainy guy. What do you
call those guys that are smarter than everybody in the universe?
I forget what they call that. They get these awards
as super brainy people. He was an engineer all beyond

(36:00):
men's no, no, no, that's true culture. This is about
a Rhodes scholar that's a crazy smart right, Like, I
think you really have to be high I Q guy
to that. Anyway, he was this genius engineer and he
was hitting us up for a million dollars to build
his first tower in the middle, specifically in the middle
of the Atlantic. Go. She showed us a map bullseye

(36:22):
right in the middle where he was gonna turn seawater
into pure gold. It's like, whoa, I'm in. I'm in
on that one, you know, so we hear them all.
Then we had the other kind of crazy guy who
I'm not supposed to call him crazy. I think we
got control of the other lovely guy who had a
wonderful idea YouTube or something in your brain shoot it in. Okay,

(36:45):
no your cell phone service, So for Merimoor, you didn't
have to charge your phone. You had your cell phone
in your brain. But then when it runs out of juice.
We had a long term battery, but when it runs
out of juice, you go in for another operation and
have a recharge. I'm like, oh boy, you know so
many really crazy things that but it's interesting. Very often

(37:09):
we'll get a crazy person on the show, crazy idea.
I shouldn't really call them crazy, but they seem to
be crazy. And then I'll pitch on the show and
you're thinking, how could that be? How could that be?
And then somebody will buy in. It's like what what?
So that's always a surprise to me. I almost jumped
out of my chair. What was the what was the

(37:32):
investment that you made that you just had no idea
was going to turn into what it turned into? Like,
what was your unicorn investment on the show? This is
a good way of putting a unicorn. I'll use that
word from now. And definitely the Comfy Brothers too crazy
wild and crazy guys come on like they just jumped
off a bar stool, you know, that kind of a
feel about them, And they're holding an oversized blanket with

(37:55):
a hood on it with a pocket holding it. They
put it on and they sing out a jingle that
the coffee is the most comfortable thing you ever saw.
To the tune of jingle bells. They couldn't sing. They
I definitely felt like they had been drinking. I wasn't sure.
And they then answered our battery of questions, you know,
the usual, how much do you want? I forget what

(38:16):
they wanted not a lot of money. It was a
cheap buy. And uh, what is it cost to make it?
We don't know. We made them by hand. Who are
you going to sell do? We don't know? What does
it cost to me? We don't know. Every answer was
we don't know. But they were fun. They were fun
loving guys that twinkles in their eyes. You could tell
that they were having the time of their life. One

(38:39):
was an unemployed guy for years. His brother was a
TV H t V camera carrier, carried cameras. There's a
word for that in the business. And that was their background.
Had nothing to do with textiles, right. I bought into
their business. They were offering ten for whatever small amount
of money. It was a hundred thousand, maybe fifty thou even,

(39:00):
And I said I have to take a third for
that much money because they had nothing there. You know, okay, Barbie,
They said, awful win all right, and they have I
don't quote, thirty five million and three hundred two hundred
and fifty million dollars in sales three years later. That's amazing.
I actually have companies, and I have a couple of them.

(39:22):
You've got to wear and help us promote. We gotta
keep this gravy train running. I love it. I love
a story like that. That's amazing. You know. It's it's
against all odds that they would have succeeded. They knew
nothing about business. But I'll tell you what I learned
about them working with them. They will come up with
these things and I'll think that will never work. I

(39:43):
realized my memories, my deficit. I've been in business so long.
I start to analyze things. You know, they'll just say
we like it. Off they go, and they're right every time.
That's scary for me. It's like I gotta retire, Like
I don't have any idea bit to these kids, you know.
And so they've had tremendous successes. They have new wives,

(40:03):
new houses, they have new everything. I love it. They
have a whole new life and they're having a ball
and it's like, not they weren't all there. I guess
my partners are probably in their early forties, but they
never thought they'd see that success after the first forty
years of their life. You know, but here's an interesting thing,

(40:25):
and then I'll be quiet for a minute. Their mother
always said to them, and they keep quoting their mother.
The mother would always point out success stories to these
boys growing up, and even when they're grown up and
working and losing their jobs, she would point out a
success to her and she'd say, why not you? Why
not you? And you know, they tell me now they

(40:47):
always paused and thought, yeah, why not us? And now
it's us, it's them right WHOA. Yeah, it's a great
it's such a joy to be part of that. You know,
it's a privilege in every way. You know, it's like
being a groundhog day with the beginning years of all
these businesses when it's so exciting, you know you could

(41:09):
have great successes. My business was very successful ten twenty
years out. But the best time in your life when
you're building a business is always like kind of like
even with building a family. When the kids are young,
it's the best days. And when the business is young,
it's so exciting. Every piece of it and so I
get to relive this every single day with all my partners.

(41:30):
You know how many people can get that kind of
a ride, right? Most people have one shot riders, sometimes two,
unless your Paris. Then you start fifty businesses. You get
fifty rides in one lifetime. That's very unusual, right. Yeah.
So yeah, I'm very happy for these guys. They are
happy for themselves. I'm sure they're happy they met their

(41:50):
fairy godmother, Barbie. You know, that was just a lucky
hit that day. You know, maybe I wasn't on the
set that day they were laughter us to set by everybody,
or maybe I didn't see that Clinton there I that day,
or maybe I was hungry for lunch that day. They
came in after lunch that had a full belly. You
never know all those little things, but it is what
it is, and they ran up flank pole and nobody

(42:13):
could take that away from them. That's they're doing, differing
with me almost all along the way. What would be
a good move? By the way, Wow, Yeah, I love
that was there's anything on Shark Tank that you really
wanted and then you didn't get, you know, not worry
that way. There's certainly there's a lot of stuff on

(42:34):
Shark Tank I really wanted, and I lost to Laurie
more often than not. Really bugs me because I want
to say, but look at us, you'd much rather do
business with me. But it overbids me and I have
a limit, right, and it's not gonna make sense that
that much money, so I cut it, you know, but
you know it, once that business has gone taken by

(42:57):
somebody else, it's history. I didn't even think about it,
and it you know, I just the door opens within
five minutes on the set and we have another entrepreneur.
They turn that set around like crazy, and somebody else
walks to the door. So it's not like there's a
a shortage of businesses. Um, yeah, I just yeah, No.
I don't have regrets about stuff like that. But in

(43:17):
the moment, I feel very heated that I wanted and
I'm disappointed when I lose it. But it's you know,
I'm pretty good at rejection and getting over stuff. It's like, uh,
next bump in the road, boom, get up. You know,
it's not a big deal. It's not gonna make the
difference of whether my kids go to a private school
or not, you know what I mean? Onto the next one,

(43:38):
the next right. If you could go back and give
yourself one piece of advice, what would it be. Well,
I would definitely go back to second grade. When the
none from Hell sister Stella Marie told me if I
did learned to read, I'd always be stupid, I would
stand him and say, oh yeah, I think I have
my first curse word at her, tell her where to go.

(44:02):
And I think I wouldn't have believed her, you know,
but I think you know when you were you know,
I happen to be a terrible student at school, as
so many kids are probably ten percent of the population
struggle with learning to read. Um. But in those days, uh,
there was only one label for that kid, which was stupid,
you know. So she wasn't off her mark and calling
me that. But I believed her, And I think, you know,

(44:24):
if you go rewind, well what I really I'm not
so sure. I just argue against my own head. Now, Um,
I'll tell you maybe maybe not, Okay. I would probably
go back and be a smart student, so I wouldn't
have had the ridicule of coming through school and hiding
out and feeling ashamed of who I was, what a
waste of time a kid is so innocent, you know,

(44:46):
you know, I was smart. I just had a different
kind of smart, right, But um, honestly, I probably wouldn't
have changed it now because it'll turned out alright. But
it turned out alright. Maybe it didn't turn out all right.
If I kept going and believing I had stupid my
whole life and a shame, that would be a tragedy.
But I honestly believe without that rough bump, uh, that
self imaging that was lacking for me as a child,

(45:07):
and the insecurity and the pain that went with that, um,
I don't think I would have tried as hard to
be a success. I think it drove me my whole life.
I think when you're sol short, we're damned or whatever,
uh you know, assumed guilty uh early on. Uh, it
injures very very deep and I think, um, that deepness

(45:30):
is what gives you the passion to get even. Not
that I want to get even with life. I'm not
an angry person at all, but kind of like I'll
show you. You know, once I got out my first
job at eleven part time you after school, I was
pretty good at that, you know, I helped at the
kiddie pool, as pretty good as a sales clerk after school.
I was a pretty good as a hot dog salesman
on the cart. I was pretty good as a nurse's aid.

(45:52):
You know. I was good at all these jobs. I
just wasn't good at school, and so um, I soon
learned that I had other gifts. Thank god I worked,
or maybe I wouldn't have discovered that. But I yeah,
if you could rewind the clock, maybe I would have
given myself an easy to get out of that faster.
But I think because of it, I've gotten so much

(46:12):
for it, you know, because school is a short chapter
of your life. You're out of there when you're eighteen.
I used to think of breaking out of jail eighteen
oh eighteen. I can't wait at eighteen, you know. But
then I had from eighteen to now to however long
I'll live to kind of make up for it with
a lot of passion about it, you see, And deep inside,
I think when kids are injured at a young age,

(46:33):
whatever the injury is, as a million injuries, different varieties
that kids could get, um, they don't ever totally get
over it, and so they don't ever totally get over
the motivation that it brings. I don't think you ever
get whole about it, you know, because those early injuries
are the worst ones, I think for all of us,
and so so I'm thankful in the end. But then again,
it might be that same old thing. You have something

(46:55):
bad and you look back and go, oh, that was great.
So it might be just justify But I don't think so.
I think it's been my best friend through life. I
over prepare for everything I do. I try harder than
the next guy. I work harder than everybody else. And
I don't think I would be that person if I
had had early, easy success like my eight brothers and sisters.
Other than my brother John and I, we were the

(47:16):
dump kids. But the other eight were straight as students,
never opened a book and uh, and they're all successful,
but not as successful as John and I avenge of
the nerds. It reminds me of that Albert Einstein quote
about um, you know, everybody's a genius, but if you
judge a fish by how it can climb a tree,

(47:37):
it'll go its whole life thinking it's stupid. Wow, I
like that. I never heard that. Yeah, that hits hard.
This is Paris, this is seven nuts living questions. So
are you ready for seven living questions? Oh? Fast question?

(48:02):
Is that kind of thing they're sliving? Okay? Living is
a word that I invented in the dictionary. Yet could
I use it? Scrabble tone and playing with two friends?
It's s l I v I n G. And it
is in the Urban Dictionary and it means slang and
living your best life. What a good word? You can

(48:26):
use it at picture at scrabble tonight. For sure you've
got paris as approval. I'm going to start telling everybody
I invented the word. What do you think about sliving? Yes?
Using my word today? Sliving? Ye? Yes, I love that.
I love hearing you say it. You love it when

(48:47):
you hear me tomorrow morning, I say, the Today Show
is something, Well, it's like my words living. I think
parents would love it. I think she'd bet I would
really love that. Okay, I use it? Yes? All right,
here we go. What is the worst day you've ever

(49:08):
been on? And why you want a truthfulance? Is this
X rated? Sure? Oh good? Anything does well? That would
be with Tony. I'll save his last name for myself,
the guy my mother insisted. I just go on one
day with he's such a nice boy, brother, give him
a break. His mother is so nice. His family is

(49:29):
some nice. Never a good sign right already, even though
I had never a date in my life at that point,
I was sixteen. Even then I knew that was a
bad sign, that his mother's so nice. So he pulls
up he was nineteen, drove a car which was a
selling feature. The only one in my was the car. Okay,
I'll go pulls up in the car. We go out

(49:51):
and watch car racism. When we came home, right before
I ran up the steps to go back to my
parents home, he had a little surprise for me in
the front seat and I'll let you fill in the blank.
And he said do you mind? And I said, because
I'm a pleaser, I said, oh no, it's cute. It's
just cute introduction to a scandal. One oh one. I

(50:18):
never went on another day with that little man. I
measured my future boyfriend against that moment, and every man
sense not a bad measuring stick. The bar is low. Yeah, Wow,
that was quite the story because you were in that pontiac.

(50:45):
Oh my god. I still get a bad feeling when
a pontiac just goes by traumatized. We should all be
we should all be a little turned off by a
pontiac at this point. Yeah, yeah, I'll never look at
a pontiac the same way again. You'll think of You'll say, oh,
poor Barb, so fradulate that age or a little baby Barb.

(51:10):
All right, well, but nex question what is your spirit animal?
Make it an easier question. What's the question? What is
your spirit animal? Mine is a unicorn? You know what
I think I would be? Uh, definitely some kind of
a bird. I don't know what kind, because they hang
out in gardens, a lot of gardening. You get all

(51:31):
the seed you want, You drop your phone wherever you want,
nobody's telling you what to do. You could like pick
out you made. There's millions of them to choose from.
They all seem even, and you can get Yeah, you
could fly, but more importantly, you can hang out in
the garden. Wouldn't that be nice? With no pressure, no predators,
no lines coming in? Yeah, probably like a little blue

(51:53):
jay or something, or blue jay canary, not a pigeon.
Nobody wants to be a pigeon. Nobody even wants to
be a blackbird, picking up, picking up part people's bones.
I don't think no, no, no ravens. That's a raven.
Yeah yeah, I just made that answer up. I don't
even know if that's a true answer. I like Canary

(52:16):
for you. I feel like that's a perfect bird. Yeah,
I love I love Canary. Honestly, this was sweet little saying, well,
I like it. I'll take it as they say your
top beauty secret. I don't need have beauty secrets honestly,
other than three facelifts. I think that's the big beauty secret.

(52:39):
I just go in for a hold the whole when
you really need it, when everybody's telling you look good
for your age and the poison words there is for
your age, and that's when you know it's time for
you nex facelift. Just march writing there and get it done.
Because you can get all the botox, filler, facial treatment
standings of your face, all those treatments I used to
pendament of dolls. Nothing does it for you as well

(53:02):
as a facelift gives you the most bang for your buck.
If you really pro raded over the days, you're gonna
look better. You know. Yeah, that's it, faceless my beauty secret. Okay,
I let you look hot yeah, oh I don't look hot,
but I hopefully don't look my age and trying harnch.
You look very young. Yeah, thank you, Paris. I love
you too, look you. Thank you. First celebrity crush, I

(53:27):
would say mel Gibson because I ran into him on
East fifty seventh Street, walking arm and arm with Kevin Coster.
How's that for a double header coming across fifty seven Street.
I was already like forty years old. I had never
met a celebrity, actually, no one. They just were people
in magazines, you know. But anyway, I'm walking across fifty

(53:49):
seven Street. They're walking right towards me. I see them
and like a teeny bopper, I'm still mortified by it,
but I know I'll never see them again. I go
grop up to him like a person who can't talk,
and I grabbed them both, like grabbed them both like
I could control. I imagine why that happened. And really,

(54:11):
it wasn't like I even went to the movies. It
wasn't like I was into celebrities at all. I was
busy working, you know. But anyway, you know what Kevin
and not Kevin mel Gibson did. He just took my arm.
Really classy move. Took my arm this one and that one,
and he gently pushed his side and they kept walking
and talking and everything. That's how a lot important I was.

(54:33):
They never woke saidence they were in. They just kept
talking and I stood there and then I didn't know
what to do with myself for the next hour. I
was so ashamed. I mean, how I'd be so uncool?
You know. Fortunately I looked around and I didn't see
anybody knew me. You know, I was by myself. What

(54:53):
a terrible thing to do to somebody. Someone did that
to me. Now, if somebody came watching and like put
there just grabbed me, I've never punchmizing. Oh I hope.
I hope you get to meet him at some point,
and I hope he remembers this vividly, because I know
you think that. I know you think his conversation continued

(55:13):
with whatever they were talking about. It didn't. They talked
about you for the rest of that walk, being like
what just happened. They would have loved No. They I mean,
two men who were at the peak of their celebrity
dumb They none of that's weird to them. They just
it's flattering. To them. All you did was give them

(55:34):
a physical compliment. Well, I don't know. Now, maybe if
I was Paris and did it, they'd be talking now
my navy blue business suiting, my moderate heels, with my stockings,
with my short hair. No, I don't even think they've
registered it was a woman that I had grabbed them.
I don't think so, but thank you. I'll try to

(55:55):
reframe into my memory that way. Oh my god, that's funny.
Do you do you have a current celebrity crush you, Harris,
I'm gonna go the other way. I'm gonna start hitting
on you with love letters. That's hot love. No, I don't.
I don't have a celebrity crush. You know, it's not

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so celebrity driven, like who's who? You know? She's going
to the movies where I'll ask me a year from now,
I'll have a big celebrity crush. I'll pick somebody out
of than you. I know. It's weird for someone to
tell your, face to face you're in. I have a
question that might you. You can say no to this, Barbara,
but I think it could be. It could be fine,

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But feel free to say no. Do you know the game? Kiss? Mary?
Kill or f Mary Kilber will play kiss Mary kill.
I do know that game. It's like shoot some that
kind of thing, you know, guy? Maybe no, maybe no.
But so basically, if you had to pick between your
three male co host on Shark Tank, which one you

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would kiss, which one you would marry, and which one
you would kill, what would it be? And you can
feel free to say now if this is uncomfortable, but oh,
I know exactly who it is. I'd love to Yeah. Yeah,
I would definitely marry Mark. Who wouldn't old? And he's
a lovely man and a loyal husband. I've met his wife,
his kids. What a catch that guy is. I would

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marry him at a dime. I would drop Bill so fast.
You know what his name was? At home? Okay, okay,
who would I kill? Robert? I'm I spent five minutes
with Robert. I could kill him right away. You like
these couplings, these couplings, the shirt, the shirt this Jack
just put on anything, Robert, just get on the set
and let's get going. Okay, I love And then what

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was the other one kiss? Like? Who would you have
a nice fun date with? Oh? I can tell you
from experience. I would kiss Kevin. They married three times
on set, and each time they want me to they
want him to kiss of Briannie. He goes to kiss
me and I'm like, like, you know, I hamming up, like, ah,
that's good for the show. But the last time I said,
we're getting married again, and this time I closed my

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eyes and I leaned in and he had the softest,
loveliest lips. Did your husband get mad? Did your husband
get mad or jealous? You know, my husband is one
of those confident guys. Based on what I'm not sure,
but he is very confident about himself. If he knew

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how close I've come to leaving him a hundred times,
he should be shaking in his boot and saying his
prayers every night. No, but he's calm, He's got me.
He doesn't worry at all. It's one of those I'm
so happy you played that game with us. I'm hoppy
you ask me those questions. I happened to have three
solid answers. Have you never been asked that an interview before? Never? Are?

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I just thought it was rock paper cut? You know
when you shoot size foos on your baseball team? Oh
my god, this is now? You know what you learn
every day. Mm hmm, I like it. Next you have

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to go why do you think country that I wouldn't
answer that question. That was the easiest question, much easier
than the first date. Well sometimes, you know, I just
always try and be as careful as possible. I don't
want to ever make anyone uncomfortable with your lovely voice,
and I'm sure Paris will bear me out on this.
With you a lovely voice, you can never make anyone

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feel uncomfortable. You have the most soothing, calming voice. You
could ask the worst questions and pull it out get
away with it. Yes, that's very sweet, Thank you so much.
True though, listen to yourself recording? Oh you do record yourself.
I'm on a podcast. Yeah, I hear myself all the time.
I don't love it as much as I think you do,

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but I love it. Yeah. I have a hard time
watching or listening to my own stuff, but I appreciate
it nonetheless. Yes, leave me leave me a voicemail around
eleven o'clock. Oh, I got you. You're gonna get a
long one. Mind no longer your celebrity crush over um fearing. Yes,

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all right, I am come back next time for sure.
As illustrian, because I have concluded that it's so much
cheesy to get along with women and men. I mean,
they're more complex, you know, they get it. They did,
and I do so many things differently than man. I'm
definitely not going for a guy the next time. I've
already decided it's over now for the next life. This

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is my last chance. Then I'm gonna start start prepping
that voicemail. Well guess what I'm changing my mind. I'm
considering you. Yes, my mom is gonna be so happy.
She's gonna be like, let's set this wedding up asaph.
This is great. No, your mother is not going to

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be that way. You know what. She's kind of saying,
you're right away. Do you have any idea? Well, she is,
she's old enough to be my mother. Uh, not at all.
She would be so happy for me. No, she won't
be trust me. Mother wants to see this so and
marry someone older than them. Nobody when they love you
as much as my mom loves you, she'll be like,

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you know what, I see it, and I love it.
I think this is this is fantastic. I doubt it,
but go ahead. Yes, oh my god, Yes, it's amazing
o good. Next living, you have to go live on
an island. You get to bring a one person and

(01:02:03):
one item. Who is it? What is it? And why
m I would bring Kio, who was my partner and
dancing with the stars, because if he was locked on
an island, he might consider me as a data. And
the whole time I was dancing with him, I was thinking,
I wondered if he'd ever marry me, that guy would
even consider it. You're dancing weekend, we go out with

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somebody who's like totally buff, totally gorgeous in a third
year age. It's a thrill of a lifetime. And if
somebody said, how can you make your life perfect? I
would have said, put me on an island with Ko
where he can't get off. It was an easy answer.

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I've been thinking about that for a long time. And
then the one item might be like a speaker system
so that you can play whatever music you want to
dance too. Oh, I had that music in my head.
I still have that music in my head. Wow beautiful.
This is the most beautiful, like non your husband love
story I've ever heard in my entire life. You know why,

(01:03:10):
because it's so innocent. I could talk like this, but
what am I really a virgin? There's no harm in
this kind of for place, none, none, whatsoever. Those are
perfect answers. Oh my god, I got an a for
the first time in my life. Maybe those were my
favorite answers for this living questions you killed him? M M.

(01:03:34):
I'm gonna steal not only your word, and I'm steal you.
I'm gonna steal your questions from my podcast, my podcast
It's unusual. Tune in. You'll be hearing those questions next
week at this time. That's right, I'm I'm excited. Everybody,
go listen to unusual business and usual business. Please hundreds

(01:03:57):
business unusual, well, business unusual, not if you want personal advice,
only business advices. That's all I'm good at. As you
will know. Yes, I can't wait to listen to it now.
You're very fun and very interesting and very cool. And
this was awesome. You're the first celebrity I ever hung

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out with. It's a pleasure, really paris original celebrity, celebrity,
really amazing, really too futuremendous credit. I mean, we all
make a living creating something out of something like fame
out is something you created fame out of just fame.
You know, I still don't quite get it, you know
what I mean. I don't know how that could really happen.

(01:04:43):
It's like the loaves of officious, like a miracle. Really,
if you think about it, it doesn't make any common sense, right, Yeah,
I like being a first. Thank you. I suspect you'll
always be a first. I don't think it's over by
any means. It's your nature. This is just the beginning.
I'm not sure about you. Hunter, don't have a good

(01:05:04):
feeling about you, though I'm gonna I have a feeling.
I'm gonna marry someone very wealthy very soon, and I'll
be okay. I don't need a ring. I do not
need a ring. Listen, I don't need anything. I don't
even need the money. I just want to hang out
and uh and I hear more about these first jobs.

(01:05:27):
I like it. Okay, all right, we've got to sell
as a future date. I love this plan. When I
come to New York, I'll stay at Paris's place and
you can come over here to death. It was really
nice meeting you. I think we're gonna be recording an

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episode of Unicorn Tank, which is like Shark Tank, but sweeter,
so you guys will be able to listen to me
try and pitch ideas to Paris and Barbara, who will
hopefully go easy on me. Yes, the quietness, the quiet
before the yes, was enough for me to know that
I'm in for it. So everyone get ready to listen
to that at the pod posts coming out later this week.

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