April 11, 2023 • 35 mins
In Part 2 of our conversation with Golden State's Draymond Green, Draymond discusses his leadership approach this season, goes in-depth on his practice floor clash with Jordan Poole and the aftermath, addresses his long-term future with the Warriors and helps us break down the Western Conference playoffs.
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Welcome to this week uncut in the world of NA News.
Chris Hans works time. It's some time. This Lincoln Cut
is underway, on fire. This should be a good one.
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You are correct, Tim kits Ro, Voice of NBA JAM
and voice of this league. Uncut. This is gonna be
a good one. It's gonna be a great one. This
is Part two of our conversation with Draymond Green. Chris
and I spoke to him for about an hour over
the weekend. We decided to break this thing up into
two parts because he went so in depth with us
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on so many different subjects. In Part one, we talked
about defense, and we specifically got into the game against
the New Orleans Pelicans that Draymond himself said he felt
like really turned around Golden States season, his approach to
the game, the state of the Warriors. D We talked
about all these things. In Part two, though, he goes
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really in depth on the Jordan Pool situation in training camp.
He talks about his future with the Warriors. He talks
about what this Western Conference looks like, who's the favorite
after such a wide open and tumultuous regular season. Draymond
Green unplugged on this League uncut. Here's part two with
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Chris and I. So I wanted to read you this
from January. This was this was on your own podcast,
The Draymond Green Show, which is of course on the volume,
and and it's being nominated. It's being nominated right for
the war He mentioned, Yes, I've been nominated for a
Webby award, like I think the Best Sports Podcast or
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something like that, which, like we said at the top,
we need you on our show more than you need us.
But in January you had our friend Jamal Crawford on
and you guys ended up talking about what happened with
Jordan Poole and training camp, and your quote was, I
think a lot of our shortcomings this year is my fault.
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Why is it my fault? I have not been the
leader that I am and that I need to be
for this team. The reason I have not been that
leader is also my fault. Right. We all know what
happened with your young Wolverine brother JP. So for me,
I've kind of had to walk a fine line of
not really being Draymond. And when I'm not really being myself,
that's not the best thing for this team. Three months later,
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how close to the full Draymond, are you in terms
of leadership? I think I've been a lot better since then,
And just you know, Stanny, I had to get to
the point of where to really get back to just
being me and myself. And what that meant is you
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can't really care about feelings. You know, there's no space
in this game for winner. If you're winners for feelings,
feelings will get hurt often if you're trying to win,
because winning and feelings don't live in the same place.
They live in two totally different spaces, and oftentimes what
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you do is you try to cater to both, and
those that cater to both you end up stuck in
the middle. Well, what's the middle of the middle is
five hundred? The middle is not quite good enough, not
quite bad enough. That's the middle. Well guess what. That's
where we've been all year until as of late, stuck
right in the middle. And so I just had to
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get to a point to where I said, listen, I
can't sit here and worry about feelings. I've never worried
about feelings. Well, all of a sudden, am I so
worried about feelings now? And not that it's Jordan's feelings
to anyone's feelings about anything, like not just the JP incident,
but anything that you could be feeling that you may
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have a feeling about. I really don't have time to
worry about that because I can't lead and worry about
how your feelings, how you may take something, how your
feelings may get hurt, because guess what, and being a leader,
there's actually a time where you need and have to
hurt feelings, like intentionally have to hurt feelings, and it's
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totally necessary, and guess what, it can spark something totally
different than the team. So I had to just kind
of get back to that mindset of like, when have
you ever worried so much about feelings that you allow
that to get in the way of leading. And like
I said, that's not just JP's feelings, that's that's organizationally,
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that's publicly because that was a big part of it,
right the video never get released, that's a totally different thing,
and so the public's feelings. I had to stop worrying
about that as well. I think that was a bigger
worry than Jordan's feelings or the organization's feelings. Is how
I'm viewed in the public Man, I have a family,
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my wife that followed everyone, and so I think that
had more of an impact on me than necessarily what's
happening to organization, Because at the end of the day, man,
we're going to play basketball, like and when you get
between those lines, nothing else matters but going out there
to play basketball, competing at the highest level. But I
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think for me, I'm going out there, I don't want
to necessarily say something to Jordan because if I say
something to Jordan he react the wrong way. Everybody in
the public is going to pick it up and say, oh,
he's doing this and he's doing that right. And so
I was more worried about those things than I actually
was what would actually happen if I did say something
to Jordan, or what would actually happen on our team
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if I did say something to somebody else. I was
more worried about everyone else picking up what happens if
something did happen. Well, guess what, stuff like that happens
all the time throughout the season. Teammates get into it
and I know that and I've been a part of
those And guess what those things build character, Those things
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build bonds and so and understanding that and being the
leader and leading the way that I lead. I had
to just accept that, you know what, I may say
something to Jordan, I may say something somebody else. It
may blow up at times, but guess what if it
does and the public picks that up or the media
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wants to pick that up, AND's so be it, because
I don't have the time to worry about everyone else
feelings and everyone else perception of what's going on in
our locker room, what's going on with us between the lines,
except for doing what I have to do that I
know and what it takes that I know, or excuse me,
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doing what I know it takes to win at the
highest level. And it's like, oh, man, you know the Okay,
see game in Okay, see when I got pissed at Jordan?
All right, am I supposed to keep holding all of
those emotions in so that no one picks it up
or everybody picks it up and talk about it the
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next day, and who cares? And that's kind of the
mindset that I had to get back to and just
accepting that, and I think I've done a much better job.
I couldn't have had that game against New Orleans nor
could my team have followed that game against New Orleans
game forty just couldn't. Like, it wasn't possible. I'm not
sure they were capable of following that. I'm not sure
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we were capable of banding together the way we did.
I'm just not sure it was possible. But in working
through the things that I needed to work through, that
we need to work through, I think we've gotten to
that place. And lastly, and saying that, I also think
it required me to take that approach initially and not
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just try to be Draymond Boss to the walls. Yeah,
right out the gate. Now I think it sets us
up for a better come playoff time, which is now joy.
I'm not trying to harp on that because we didn't
want to touch on that really, but you mentioned the leak.
The leak took it to another level, and I think
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that made matters worse for everybody involved. Was that leak.
Was that issue resolved as far as from your knowledge
finding out who did it? Like? Was it resolved to
your satisfaction? No, not at all. I was never really
given a concrete I'm sure on how it came about.
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But anything else that gets investigated, you get to concrete things, right, like,
this is why we got to our investigation. That's that,
and it doesn't end until you reach a concrete place.
That wasn't the case with this investigation. Could it have
been the case if I pressed the issue? Probably so, right,
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Like we probably could have got all the way to
the bottom of it if I pressed the issue, if
rich Paul pressed the issue, we could have gotten all
the way to the bottom of it. I'm sure. But
but in hindsight or I mean even looking at it now, Hans,
I didn't want to get to the bottom of it.
I didn't want to chase Oh, man, who leaked this? Uh?
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Is there a way for me to find out, you know,
where this league came from? Like if I do find out,
what I'm gonna do? Like, am I going to sue someone? No? Like, say, say,
a lot of people said, man, that leade came from
the organization, all right, So if I find out the
organization leaked it, am I going to sue the Golden
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State Warriors? Of course? Not like I love to Going
State Warriors. I've been at the Golden State Warriors for
eleven years. Like my entire knowing as a professional basketball
players synonymous with the Golden State Warriors. Why am I
going to run and try to sue them for that.
I did it like I did it. The thing that
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happened I did it did get leaked. It's unfortunate, and
if I'm being quite honest, it's bullshit that it got leaked,
because you know, what don't get leaked, what don't get
leaked is when we running through plays. What doesn't get leaked.
This when we're going when what doesn't get leaked This
when we're going through a team's scout and we're scouting
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on you know, we're putting our game playing together, or
when coach gets pissed off in practice and go ape
shit on all of us. That doesn't get leaked. But
that thing gets leaked. It's unfortunate and it sucks. But
the reality is I did it, and you got to
face the music. Man, I'm not about to get so
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deep into trying to find out who leaked it that
I'm that it almost appears as I'm not willing to
face the music or something. So I did I As
you know, man, I am someone who stands on everything
I say. I stand on everything I do. Good battering
different to be quite honest with you, it was unfortunate
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that it got out there. It's one of my worst
moments as a pro. Like, I've never punched anyone as
heated as things have gotten, as much things as I've
been into. I'm not someone who just walks around punching someone.
And so it's something that I had never done. It's
unfortunate that it got leaked. But the reality is I
let myself go to that space and I did do it.
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It's not like somebody altered the video and put out
there and alter video. No, no, no, the video that
was out there is something that I did. And regardless
if it got leaked, if it was or it wasn't
supposed to get leaked, I did it. And because I
did it. You can approach that one or two ways.
You can bullshit around and try to get to the
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bottom of who leaked it, or you can accept it
it got leaked and you shouldn't have done it. And
because you shouldn't have done it, it would have never
been in a space to get leaked if you hadn't
done it. So control what you can control, and don't
worry about what you what you can't control. And so
again answer you a question. No, we never got to
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the bottom of it. To be honest with you, I
was given some lousy answer that you know me very well.
If I really cared to get to the bottom of it,
I would ate that lousy answer up. But it was
just no point. It is what it is. The damage
was done. So getting to the bottom of the leap
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like it does nothing like I heard, relationships and all
of that, and so the damage is done, like move forward,
correct what you can correct, and be better and learn
from it. And that's kind of what I what I
tried to do with the whole situation. Well, I mean,
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that was an incredibly candid answer and reminds me of
why I don't go in locker rooms very much anymore.
We are allowed back in locker rooms, but after a
few years off, I don't like going in there anymore.
But in the years that we did go into locker
rooms a lot. That's why they're all That's why there
was always a crowd around yours, because we know we're
gonna get we know we're gonna get that incredible detailed answer.
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But you said something in there. You've been a warrior
for eleven years. Chris knows this. He's heard this speech
a zillion times. Because I'm a basketball romantic. I would
like to see Draymond Green and Stephen Curry and Clay
Thompson play their whole careers together. It doesn't happen very
much anymore. I don't know how realistic it is. We're
in a different era, this is a different time. It
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is a business more than it's ever been. So, just
as generally as I can ask this, what do you
How likely is it that Draymond Green finished his career,
his career as a warrior well number one for something
you just said. I think this is the last time
we'll ever see it, especially with the new CBA. I
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don't think the new c BA will allow you to
see this again. You know, if there were things added
into the CBA, like you know, you drafted all of
these go you drafted Jordan Pool, you drafted this Clay Times,
you drafted Steph Kerry, you drafted Kevon Loon, and you
drafted Draymond Green. If there was things that was added
to the CBA like it should have been, and you're
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not penalized with drafting, well then maybe we will see
it again. That's not the case to my knowledge, and
so because that's not the case, I don't think we'll
ever see this again. With the penalties and the way
the money is increasing, I just don't think we will
as far as my situation goes. Man, I've been here
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eleven years. I've done everything that you can possibly do here.
Why would I want to go somewhere else and try
to do it again to prove to the people that
say Draymond can only play on that team, he can't
play anywhere else. Should I try to go prove those
people wrong. I've been proving those people wrong. Those same
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people said I would never make it in the NBA,
So I'm not going to waste my time trying to
prove the same idiots wrong that I prove wrong a
million times over. I would love to finish my career here.
That's been my goal since maybe signing this current contract
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been on own. It's like it looked like a more
realistic thing of me finishing here. And I also don't
want to play twenty years in the NBA. I want
to play fifteen years in the NBA. So I think,
you know, it's very realistic that in four more years
I will still be contributing at a high level, I'll
still be able to give to a team and live
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up to the contracts that I'll be on, and so
I do want to be here. As far as the
probability goes, I can't necessarily give you that because it's
not up to me. You know, if it's totally up
to me, I can one hundred percent tell you I
would finish my career here, But that's not something that's
totally up to me, you know, And I do understand you.
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Remember when I told you, I said, I told you guys,
I said, guys don't know how to play. Another one
that's even more baffling than me is guys don't understand
the business of basketball. I actually understand the business of basketball,
and so I do understand why that's not totally my decision,
and I don't have any hard feelings with that because
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I do understand that at the end of the day,
this is a business. This is a multi billion dollar business,
and it keeps moving. It doesn't matter who the characters
are within it. The business has to keep moving. And
so the likelihood or the probability, if it's up to me,
it's one hundred percent, But I can't give you the
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actual likelihood, because ultimately, you know, we all want to
in any job that we do, we all want to
be compensated for what we bring to the table. We
all want our fair market value, and so you know
that end of the bargain has to be uphill, and
my end of the bargain has to be uphill. I
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do think I am still holding the mind of the bargain.
We're defending the championship. I am still playing at a
high level. And I don't doubt that that Joe and
Bob and our front office and ownership group will hold
up their end of the bargain. They always have. I
have no contrary to the reports out there and all
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the things, I have zero reasons to believe that they
won't hold up their end of the bargain because they've
never shown me that. And I think so many times
we get caught up in this constant media cycle and
all of the news and reports that we get caught
in our feelings and we stop believing what we what's
right in our face to believe. I saw on Twitter
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You're coming to Dallas, so I said, oh, that's good
for me. I saw that as well, But like right
in our face and my face and you guys face
in the public face, is that the Warriors has always
making sure that I was taken care of. The Warriors
has always making sure that Clay Thompson was taken care of.
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The Warriors have always made sure that Steph Curry was
taken care of, Kavin Luney was taken care of. That's
what's right in our face. That's what's been right in
our face. So I am not going to I am
not going to essentially, for lack of a better term,
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shit on the Warriors or not believe what they've shown
and not give them their credibility and what's due, which
is they have taken care of the guys that they're
supposed to take care of, so I have no reason
to believe that they won't still do that. Joy. I
have my final question. I know you got busy schedule
I wanted, by the way, I'm cool if I got
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fifteen more minutes. If y'all got something, no problem. If not,
don't let us get greedy. We will take off fifteen Drey.
You gave before, you gave a team bulletin board materials,
a team that's near you guys, before the season about
you know you talked about and you know that you
hear that. I think again, it's it's one thing about
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saying that publicly, I think kind of runs people the
wrong way. I don't know why, but it was always
known what I'm talking about was always known that you
get up for certain teams and you just don't have
it for other teams. But you know you made your
made those believe it was on the shop when you
made those comments earlier in the year saying the Kings
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are one of those teams where you had a hard
time getting up for them, and you know they took
it and ran with it, and they've had a really
good year, bounced back a year and Mike Brown, to me,
should be unanimous Coach of the Year over there with
the King. Has the dynamic change for you now that
they're been like, what what has the dynamic been like
for you going to play the Kings this season? Has
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it felt different? Well? Quite frankly, if people go back
and watch that episode, it was actually math saying who
those teams weren't? I agree? But okay, my bad. But
in saying that, like I said, you know me, I'm
always standing on everything I say. The Kings have sucked, Like,
let's just face it, um, since I've been in the NBA,
they have sucked. I have not made the playoffs since
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I've been So it's not like some like bulletin board
of disrespect. It's actually a fact. They are who we
were when I came into the NBA. Yes, they're changing that.
I also said on that episode. Now the Kings got
Mike Brown, and I expect that to change. I also
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had Dear Fox on my podcast and I told Fox, Fox,
this is on you, keens get to the playoffs. It's
on you, my brother, like you have to. They traded
Tyrese Halliburton. Dave essentially said the Aaron Fox is our
point guard. Fox, you need to go out there. You
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need to lead this team the playoffs. There's no reason
you shouldn't be an All Star, and so on and
so forth. Guess what. Fox went out there and led
this team to the playoffs. Fox went out there and
became an All Star, and he's leading that organization in
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the right direction. When they trade it another all star,
Tyrese Halliburton, he's doing exactly what they hoped he would do.
By trading Tyrese Halliburn and so I give all credit
to them. I give credit where credits do. Another team
that I spoke about was the Orlando Magic. Let's face it,
we get thrown in Orlando on the back to bat
with Miami because Orlando has sucked. Let's just face it,
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like you get them coming out of two three days
in Miami y because they've sucked. No one cares about
the game. They are changing that Jamal Mosley is doing
an incredible job, and most importantly, they have a guy
that it's about winning, that loves basketball, that you can
build around, and Polo ban Carol. Before anyone was ever
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really talking about Polo ban Carroll as the number one pick,
and everybody was saying Jabari Smith and this guy and
that guy who was on the podcast talking about Polo
ban Caro is the guy. Now. I think the Orlando
Magic why they want to take the bulletin board material
about me saying they sucked. I think they also took
the willetin board material from my podcast and evaluating talent
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because all of a sudden, out of nowhere, they drifted
Polo number one out of nowhere. But come on, let's
face it, he don't know man, news don't stay private
in the NBA no more. Like so they're not that
discreet to where they had somebody think and they was
taking someone else, and then all of a sudden they
take Polo ban Carl. They ain't that goddamn the street.
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No one is in the NBA anymore. So let's face it,
they were watching, they took the kid, and they did
the right thing. I give credit where credits due. I
think the Orlando Magic are headed and trended in the
right direction. They got Paolo fren Wagner as a player,
like a real player. They got guys, They got guys
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that they can really build around and continue to move
in the right direction. But let's let's also be real.
That also takes a commitment from the organization. Has that
organization really made that commitment as of late? You know,
That's that's where you guys to discuss. I don't want
to get fund about that, but you know, you are
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you going to make that commitment to keep it all together.
That's what all of this stuff ultimately boils down to. It.
It's never really um, you know, it's never really any
shot at you know guys in particular, but you know,
I'm always keeping a Hunter, and I'm not afraid of
you know, bulletin board material. You can post something on
your bulletin all you want. You still got a guard
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and win the game. I get the Memphis Grizzy a
million bulletin board points all last year and we still
beat them in the playoffs. So you still got to
guard and like win the game. And I'm totally fine
with that, and you know, it is what it is.
But I give credit where credit is due. What Mike
Brown has gone to Sacramento and done, it's absolutely amazing.
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I expect him to continue taking that that franchise upward
in the right direction. And you know, I give credit.
I give them their props. They're doing a great job.
This has been such a weird season. I mean the
West where really since Jordan retired the second time from Chicago,
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the West has been the power Conference. And we've had
years where I remember there was a year when the Warriors,
you know, this was before your time, but the Warriors
won forty eight games and missed the playoffs. They were
the ninth seed. And in the last twenty years we've
usually seen five fifty win teams in the West. We
only have two of the season just a bizarre season
with this big clump of teams in the middle. But
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I'm asking you today, given everything that's happened this season,
where you guys started where you are now, it sounds
like you feel pretty good about things. But who should
be favored to come out of this Western Conference? Steph
Curry healthy? I think so, sources say Clay Thompson, and
I saw Clay said that the other day. He said
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the the OC goat said that if we're healthy, nobody
can beat us in a seven game series or like
our chances in a seven game series. I think I
can tell you personally, I'm pretty healthy. No one at
this point pretty healthy. Body feels good. Looni's healthy, Jordan
Poole's healthy. I think the Warrior should be the favorite because,
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quite frankly, you know, Steiny, Hey, you guys want to
look like geniuses. Let's go all right now and say
the Warrior's gonna look the Warrior's gonna win a championship,
and in about two and a half months, the Warriors
are going back to back. You're saying it here, can
I get us thought? I'm just telling you. I told
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y'all last year, and you wanted to give a thought
and you didn't jump on the bandwise your opportunity to
look like a genius. So I'm just telling you again
you know no. But honestly, though, um and all seriousness,
I think I don't think there's any clear cut favorite
in the Western Conference. I think, you know, we love
our chances if we're healthy. Um. You know, Denver has
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had a great year. You see everybody saying they're not,
you know, afraid to play Denver. That's neither here nor there.
You know, Memphis has had a great year of Sack
has had a great year. Phoenix adding KD, hasn't lost
a game without KD. The Lakers are a totally different
team now than they were to start the year. Clippers,
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will they get Paul George back? I think that matters.
Russ is playing at a high level now, like everyone
has grown accustomed to rush plan over the years. I
think it's a lot that can happen. And if I'm
you know, I never really take this stand on anything,
but if I'm being honest with you, I think it's
wide open. I think it is wide open as we've
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ever seen it before. And that's no cop out. You know,
I'm always gonna be real. I'm not just gonna come
on here and say the Warriors should be the favorite
just because I play with the Warriors. That's not how
I roll. Do I think the Warriors could win the championship?
I one hundred percent. We believe we can win a championship.
But guess what, the Warriors also could have missed the playoffs.
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That was also or possibility two days ago, you know.
And so I'm always going to be honest. I do
think we have a great opportunity and I think, you know,
like Clay said in the seven game series, I haven't
seen anyone beat us healthy in the seven game series.
I said that last year. I said again, no one
has proven that they can do that yet. Until someone
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proves that they can do that, I always believe that
it's us. But in saying that, I think it is
why though, well look this, I knew this was gonna
be good, but it was even better than I hoped.
And again to complete this lopsided trade that we absolutely
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robbed you. Now, so you said, your policy is you
do not do interviews during the playoffs. So is your
podcast changing during the playoffs. It's just just gonna be y, No,
so I didn't. I didn't do interviews during the playoffs
last year. I just did. I just did a bunch
of podcasts. So you may shut like I did, gosh,
but I really during the playoffs, I really just lock
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in on the games and break down games because as
you guys know, man, the scheduling gets tough and for
me and scheduling guests during the playoffs and trying to like, man,
I don't even focus on my wife during the playoffs,
and I love her so much. She's the best. My
kids are incredible, Like I try to unless I'm in
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between series. I stayed like this on the game, and
I can watch other games and I'll break those games
down because I'm consumed with basketball and also watching possible opponents.
But just as far as like doing interviews and stuff
during the playoffs, unless we lose early, then I'll start,
like doing some interviews. But if we're in it, like
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I'll be breaking down games and doing that whole thing.
But it just trying to schedule and work around different
people schedule. Like I'm all for that during the regular
season and like you know, you have to continue to
live your life, but during the playoff, nothing else matters,
but the playoffs, and so I just don't really be
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wanting to hassle trying to make schedules work in different
things and taking away my focus from the playoffs. It's
one thing. It's one thing of me coming to this
hotel room after a game, popping my laptop up, popping
my light up, and shooting a podcast. Right. Um, it
takes me all the twenty twenty five minutes to do that,
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but you start getting in the interviews and you know,
it gets me out of character a little bit, and like,
I just like to stay locked there, So I don't
really do them during the playoffs. Well, Dre, you're on
the road, You're you're important, I believe, sir. Nice nice hotel.
I believe I know the hotel that is. But Dre
makes sure you stay away from those small hotel soaps.
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I didn't get to see what Chuck said that the
day I'm gonna hotel so I saw, but I saw
like a headline there says why Chuck said he will
never use hotel. So don't watch it. Don't watch I'm
not sure why try try he said. He said he
carries his own big bars of soap with him now.
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Because the hotel soaps are so small that he that
he had an accident that it almost disappeared. Chuck say
that for somebody who want to hear that. Man, No,
I keep my soul with me. One thing my wife
jud has done, and she makes sure I keep my
soap with me when I go to hotels and not
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using bad soap that ain't quite great for your skin.
She makes sure I keep my skincare routine with me,
uh you know, and make sure I'm dialed in there.
So I like to keep my soap. But Chuck man
say that ship for somebody who aren't hearing Chuck. Nobody
want to hear that way too much information, God Lee.
Somebody says, hey, somebody says to Charles Barkley, man, this
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is getting like like I said in the hallway when
I when I saw you, h you your podcast. You
don't even need guests. You like you said, you turn
on the mic, open the laptop, and you're a smash hit.
But we needed we need guests on this fledgling little podcast,
so we were grateful to host you today on this
league uncut. And when you are ready to resume interviewing,
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Haines and I will be there too. After eleven years
of throwing questions at you, you get to fire all
the questions at us. I'm looking forward to that, fellas,
I really appreciate it. I'm looking forward to just having
that conversation because I think so oftentimes it gets lost.
Like I said at the start of this, when I
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speak new media and old media, there's a space for
both their audience for both. And quite frankly, we all
live in the same bubble. And you know, I always
speak about how like man like this game works and
fees all of our families, you know, and at the
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end of the day, you know, I know oftentimes things
are so separate, but we're all one group putting together
a product that ultimately is sold to the masses, and
it's created a wonderful life for all of us. And
so I don't take that for granted. I never look
at it like it's any hard feelings at time. Doesn't
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get emotional, of course, but what doesn't get emotional when
it matters. I think anything that matters gets emotional, And
so you know, it's never really any hard feelings. You
do get heated, and things are will always get heated,
but ultimately it's one big team, NBA, NBA reporters, NBA players,
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NBA staff, NBA media. It's all one big team ultimately
putting together the best product in the world to be sold.
And I'm very thankful and appreciative of that. I'm appreciative
if you brothers and all that you are bringing to
the game and the diligence that you do and doing
your work, because it doesn't go unnotice our game honestly,
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like I can do as much as as many podcasts
as I want, um, Ultimately, it is not building the
game the way you guys build the game. I'm not
doing it every day, right, I'm not breaking down things
and keeping up on all of the current things that
you guys are, And so I don't take that for granted,
and I'm looking forward to grilling the hell out of
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y'all soon. And you're not spying. You're not spying for
the Calves either, I'm not. Hayes is definitely spine. One day,
I was a drink and he's going to admit it
to me. He was texting. He was he was texting
Lebron notes after Warrior's practicing. I appreciate y'all appreciate good
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luck in the playoffs. Man. Thanks to ILL for doing this, absolutely,
thank you. I see both of y'all soul and that'll
do it for us. See you next time. This League
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is Part two of our conversation with Draymond Green. Chris
and I spoke to him for about an hour over
the weekend. We decided to break this thing up into
two parts because he went so in depth with us
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on so many different subjects. In Part one, we talked
about defense, and we specifically got into the game against
the New Orleans Pelicans that Draymond himself said he felt
like really turned around Golden States season, his approach to
the game, the state of the Warriors. D We talked
about all these things. In Part two, though, he goes
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really in depth on the Jordan Pool situation in training camp.
He talks about his future with the Warriors. He talks
about what this Western Conference looks like, who's the favorite
after such a wide open and tumultuous regular season. Draymond
Green unplugged on this League uncut. Here's part two with
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Chris and I. So I wanted to read you this
from January. This was this was on your own podcast,
The Draymond Green Show, which is of course on the volume,
and and it's being nominated. It's being nominated right for
the war He mentioned, Yes, I've been nominated for a
Webby award, like I think the Best Sports Podcast or
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something like that, which, like we said at the top,
we need you on our show more than you need us.
But in January you had our friend Jamal Crawford on
and you guys ended up talking about what happened with
Jordan Poole and training camp, and your quote was, I
think a lot of our shortcomings this year is my fault.
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Why is it my fault? I have not been the
leader that I am and that I need to be
for this team. The reason I have not been that
leader is also my fault. Right. We all know what
happened with your young Wolverine brother JP. So for me,
I've kind of had to walk a fine line of
not really being Draymond. And when I'm not really being myself,
that's not the best thing for this team. Three months later,
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how close to the full Draymond, are you in terms
of leadership? I think I've been a lot better since then,
And just you know, Stanny, I had to get to
the point of where to really get back to just
being me and myself. And what that meant is you
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can't really care about feelings. You know, there's no space
in this game for winner. If you're winners for feelings,
feelings will get hurt often if you're trying to win,
because winning and feelings don't live in the same place.
They live in two totally different spaces, and oftentimes what
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you do is you try to cater to both, and
those that cater to both you end up stuck in
the middle. Well, what's the middle of the middle is
five hundred? The middle is not quite good enough, not
quite bad enough. That's the middle. Well guess what. That's
where we've been all year until as of late, stuck
right in the middle. And so I just had to
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get to a point to where I said, listen, I
can't sit here and worry about feelings. I've never worried
about feelings. Well, all of a sudden, am I so
worried about feelings now? And not that it's Jordan's feelings
to anyone's feelings about anything, like not just the JP incident,
but anything that you could be feeling that you may
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have a feeling about. I really don't have time to
worry about that because I can't lead and worry about
how your feelings, how you may take something, how your
feelings may get hurt, because guess what, and being a leader,
there's actually a time where you need and have to
hurt feelings, like intentionally have to hurt feelings, and it's
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totally necessary, and guess what, it can spark something totally
different than the team. So I had to just kind
of get back to that mindset of like, when have
you ever worried so much about feelings that you allow
that to get in the way of leading. And like
I said, that's not just JP's feelings, that's that's organizationally,
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that's publicly because that was a big part of it,
right the video never get released, that's a totally different thing,
and so the public's feelings. I had to stop worrying
about that as well. I think that was a bigger
worry than Jordan's feelings or the organization's feelings. Is how
I'm viewed in the public Man, I have a family,
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my wife that followed everyone, and so I think that
had more of an impact on me than necessarily what's
happening to organization, Because at the end of the day, man,
we're going to play basketball, like and when you get
between those lines, nothing else matters but going out there
to play basketball, competing at the highest level. But I
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think for me, I'm going out there, I don't want
to necessarily say something to Jordan because if I say
something to Jordan he react the wrong way. Everybody in
the public is going to pick it up and say, oh,
he's doing this and he's doing that right. And so
I was more worried about those things than I actually
was what would actually happen if I did say something
to Jordan, or what would actually happen on our team
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if I did say something to somebody else. I was
more worried about everyone else picking up what happens if
something did happen. Well, guess what, stuff like that happens
all the time throughout the season. Teammates get into it
and I know that and I've been a part of
those And guess what those things build character, Those things
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build bonds and so and understanding that and being the
leader and leading the way that I lead. I had
to just accept that, you know what, I may say
something to Jordan, I may say something somebody else. It
may blow up at times, but guess what if it
does and the public picks that up or the media
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wants to pick that up, AND's so be it, because
I don't have the time to worry about everyone else
feelings and everyone else perception of what's going on in
our locker room, what's going on with us between the lines,
except for doing what I have to do that I
know and what it takes that I know, or excuse me,
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doing what I know it takes to win at the
highest level. And it's like, oh, man, you know the Okay,
see game in Okay, see when I got pissed at Jordan?
All right, am I supposed to keep holding all of
those emotions in so that no one picks it up
or everybody picks it up and talk about it the
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next day, and who cares? And that's kind of the
mindset that I had to get back to and just
accepting that, and I think I've done a much better job.
I couldn't have had that game against New Orleans nor
could my team have followed that game against New Orleans
game forty just couldn't. Like, it wasn't possible. I'm not
sure they were capable of following that. I'm not sure
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we were capable of banding together the way we did.
I'm just not sure it was possible. But in working
through the things that I needed to work through, that
we need to work through, I think we've gotten to
that place. And lastly, and saying that, I also think
it required me to take that approach initially and not
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just try to be Draymond Boss to the walls. Yeah,
right out the gate. Now I think it sets us
up for a better come playoff time, which is now joy.
I'm not trying to harp on that because we didn't
want to touch on that really, but you mentioned the leak.
The leak took it to another level, and I think
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that made matters worse for everybody involved. Was that leak.
Was that issue resolved as far as from your knowledge
finding out who did it? Like? Was it resolved to
your satisfaction? No, not at all. I was never really
given a concrete I'm sure on how it came about.
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But anything else that gets investigated, you get to concrete things, right, like,
this is why we got to our investigation. That's that,
and it doesn't end until you reach a concrete place.
That wasn't the case with this investigation. Could it have
been the case if I pressed the issue? Probably so, right,
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Like we probably could have got all the way to
the bottom of it if I pressed the issue, if
rich Paul pressed the issue, we could have gotten all
the way to the bottom of it. I'm sure. But
but in hindsight or I mean even looking at it now, Hans,
I didn't want to get to the bottom of it.
I didn't want to chase Oh, man, who leaked this? Uh?
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Is there a way for me to find out, you know,
where this league came from? Like if I do find out,
what I'm gonna do? Like, am I going to sue someone? No? Like, say, say,
a lot of people said, man, that leade came from
the organization, all right, So if I find out the
organization leaked it, am I going to sue the Golden
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State Warriors? Of course? Not like I love to Going
State Warriors. I've been at the Golden State Warriors for
eleven years. Like my entire knowing as a professional basketball
players synonymous with the Golden State Warriors. Why am I
going to run and try to sue them for that.
I did it like I did it. The thing that
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happened I did it did get leaked. It's unfortunate, and
if I'm being quite honest, it's bullshit that it got leaked,
because you know, what don't get leaked, what don't get
leaked is when we running through plays. What doesn't get leaked.
This when we're going when what doesn't get leaked This
when we're going through a team's scout and we're scouting
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on you know, we're putting our game playing together, or
when coach gets pissed off in practice and go ape
shit on all of us. That doesn't get leaked. But
that thing gets leaked. It's unfortunate and it sucks. But
the reality is I did it, and you got to
face the music. Man, I'm not about to get so
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deep into trying to find out who leaked it that
I'm that it almost appears as I'm not willing to
face the music or something. So I did I As
you know, man, I am someone who stands on everything
I say. I stand on everything I do. Good battering
different to be quite honest with you, it was unfortunate
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that it got out there. It's one of my worst
moments as a pro. Like, I've never punched anyone as
heated as things have gotten, as much things as I've
been into. I'm not someone who just walks around punching someone.
And so it's something that I had never done. It's
unfortunate that it got leaked. But the reality is I
let myself go to that space and I did do it.
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It's not like somebody altered the video and put out
there and alter video. No, no, no, the video that
was out there is something that I did. And regardless
if it got leaked, if it was or it wasn't
supposed to get leaked, I did it. And because I
did it. You can approach that one or two ways.
You can bullshit around and try to get to the
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bottom of who leaked it, or you can accept it
it got leaked and you shouldn't have done it. And
because you shouldn't have done it, it would have never
been in a space to get leaked if you hadn't
done it. So control what you can control, and don't
worry about what you what you can't control. And so
again answer you a question. No, we never got to
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the bottom of it. To be honest with you, I
was given some lousy answer that you know me very well.
If I really cared to get to the bottom of it,
I would ate that lousy answer up. But it was
just no point. It is what it is. The damage
was done. So getting to the bottom of the leap
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like it does nothing like I heard, relationships and all
of that, and so the damage is done, like move forward,
correct what you can correct, and be better and learn
from it. And that's kind of what I what I
tried to do with the whole situation. Well, I mean,
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that was an incredibly candid answer and reminds me of
why I don't go in locker rooms very much anymore.
We are allowed back in locker rooms, but after a
few years off, I don't like going in there anymore.
But in the years that we did go into locker
rooms a lot. That's why they're all That's why there
was always a crowd around yours, because we know we're
gonna get we know we're gonna get that incredible detailed answer.
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But you said something in there. You've been a warrior
for eleven years. Chris knows this. He's heard this speech
a zillion times. Because I'm a basketball romantic. I would
like to see Draymond Green and Stephen Curry and Clay
Thompson play their whole careers together. It doesn't happen very
much anymore. I don't know how realistic it is. We're
in a different era, this is a different time. It
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is a business more than it's ever been. So, just
as generally as I can ask this, what do you
How likely is it that Draymond Green finished his career,
his career as a warrior well number one for something
you just said. I think this is the last time
we'll ever see it, especially with the new CBA. I
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don't think the new c BA will allow you to
see this again. You know, if there were things added
into the CBA, like you know, you drafted all of
these go you drafted Jordan Pool, you drafted this Clay Times,
you drafted Steph Kerry, you drafted Kevon Loon, and you
drafted Draymond Green. If there was things that was added
to the CBA like it should have been, and you're
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not penalized with drafting, well then maybe we will see
it again. That's not the case to my knowledge, and
so because that's not the case, I don't think we'll
ever see this again. With the penalties and the way
the money is increasing, I just don't think we will
as far as my situation goes. Man, I've been here
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eleven years. I've done everything that you can possibly do here.
Why would I want to go somewhere else and try
to do it again to prove to the people that
say Draymond can only play on that team, he can't
play anywhere else. Should I try to go prove those
people wrong. I've been proving those people wrong. Those same
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people said I would never make it in the NBA,
So I'm not going to waste my time trying to
prove the same idiots wrong that I prove wrong a
million times over. I would love to finish my career here.
That's been my goal since maybe signing this current contract
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been on own. It's like it looked like a more
realistic thing of me finishing here. And I also don't
want to play twenty years in the NBA. I want
to play fifteen years in the NBA. So I think,
you know, it's very realistic that in four more years
I will still be contributing at a high level, I'll
still be able to give to a team and live
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up to the contracts that I'll be on, and so
I do want to be here. As far as the
probability goes, I can't necessarily give you that because it's
not up to me. You know, if it's totally up
to me, I can one hundred percent tell you I
would finish my career here, But that's not something that's
totally up to me, you know, And I do understand you.
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Remember when I told you, I said, I told you guys,
I said, guys don't know how to play. Another one
that's even more baffling than me is guys don't understand
the business of basketball. I actually understand the business of basketball,
and so I do understand why that's not totally my decision,
and I don't have any hard feelings with that because
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I do understand that at the end of the day,
this is a business. This is a multi billion dollar business,
and it keeps moving. It doesn't matter who the characters
are within it. The business has to keep moving. And
so the likelihood or the probability, if it's up to me,
it's one hundred percent, But I can't give you the
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actual likelihood, because ultimately, you know, we all want to
in any job that we do, we all want to
be compensated for what we bring to the table. We
all want our fair market value, and so you know
that end of the bargain has to be uphill, and
my end of the bargain has to be uphill. I
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do think I am still holding the mind of the bargain.
We're defending the championship. I am still playing at a
high level. And I don't doubt that that Joe and
Bob and our front office and ownership group will hold
up their end of the bargain. They always have. I
have no contrary to the reports out there and all
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the things, I have zero reasons to believe that they
won't hold up their end of the bargain because they've
never shown me that. And I think so many times
we get caught up in this constant media cycle and
all of the news and reports that we get caught
in our feelings and we stop believing what we what's
right in our face to believe. I saw on Twitter
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You're coming to Dallas, so I said, oh, that's good
for me. I saw that as well, But like right
in our face and my face and you guys face
in the public face, is that the Warriors has always
making sure that I was taken care of. The Warriors
has always making sure that Clay Thompson was taken care of.
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The Warriors have always made sure that Steph Curry was
taken care of, Kavin Luney was taken care of. That's
what's right in our face. That's what's been right in
our face. So I am not going to I am
not going to essentially, for lack of a better term,
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shit on the Warriors or not believe what they've shown
and not give them their credibility and what's due, which
is they have taken care of the guys that they're
supposed to take care of, so I have no reason
to believe that they won't still do that. Joy. I
have my final question. I know you got busy schedule
I wanted, by the way, I'm cool if I got
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fifteen more minutes. If y'all got something, no problem. If not,
don't let us get greedy. We will take off fifteen Drey.
You gave before, you gave a team bulletin board materials,
a team that's near you guys, before the season about
you know you talked about and you know that you
hear that. I think again, it's it's one thing about
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saying that publicly, I think kind of runs people the
wrong way. I don't know why, but it was always
known what I'm talking about was always known that you
get up for certain teams and you just don't have
it for other teams. But you know you made your
made those believe it was on the shop when you
made those comments earlier in the year saying the Kings
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are one of those teams where you had a hard
time getting up for them, and you know they took
it and ran with it, and they've had a really
good year, bounced back a year and Mike Brown, to me,
should be unanimous Coach of the Year over there with
the King. Has the dynamic change for you now that
they're been like, what what has the dynamic been like
for you going to play the Kings this season? Has
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it felt different? Well? Quite frankly, if people go back
and watch that episode, it was actually math saying who
those teams weren't? I agree? But okay, my bad. But
in saying that, like I said, you know me, I'm
always standing on everything I say. The Kings have sucked, Like,
let's just face it, um, since I've been in the NBA,
they have sucked. I have not made the playoffs since
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I've been So it's not like some like bulletin board
of disrespect. It's actually a fact. They are who we
were when I came into the NBA. Yes, they're changing that.
I also said on that episode. Now the Kings got
Mike Brown, and I expect that to change. I also
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had Dear Fox on my podcast and I told Fox, Fox,
this is on you, keens get to the playoffs. It's
on you, my brother, like you have to. They traded
Tyrese Halliburton. Dave essentially said the Aaron Fox is our
point guard. Fox, you need to go out there. You
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need to lead this team the playoffs. There's no reason
you shouldn't be an All Star, and so on and
so forth. Guess what. Fox went out there and led
this team to the playoffs. Fox went out there and
became an All Star, and he's leading that organization in
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the right direction. When they trade it another all star,
Tyrese Halliburton, he's doing exactly what they hoped he would do.
By trading Tyrese Halliburn and so I give all credit
to them. I give credit where credits do. Another team
that I spoke about was the Orlando Magic. Let's face it,
we get thrown in Orlando on the back to bat
with Miami because Orlando has sucked. Let's just face it,
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like you get them coming out of two three days
in Miami y because they've sucked. No one cares about
the game. They are changing that Jamal Mosley is doing
an incredible job, and most importantly, they have a guy
that it's about winning, that loves basketball, that you can
build around, and Polo ban Carol. Before anyone was ever
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really talking about Polo ban Carroll as the number one pick,
and everybody was saying Jabari Smith and this guy and
that guy who was on the podcast talking about Polo
ban Caro is the guy. Now. I think the Orlando
Magic why they want to take the bulletin board material
about me saying they sucked. I think they also took
the willetin board material from my podcast and evaluating talent
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because all of a sudden, out of nowhere, they drifted
Polo number one out of nowhere. But come on, let's
face it, he don't know man, news don't stay private
in the NBA no more. Like so they're not that
discreet to where they had somebody think and they was
taking someone else, and then all of a sudden they
take Polo ban Carl. They ain't that goddamn the street.
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No one is in the NBA anymore. So let's face it,
they were watching, they took the kid, and they did
the right thing. I give credit where credits due. I
think the Orlando Magic are headed and trended in the
right direction. They got Paolo fren Wagner as a player,
like a real player. They got guys, They got guys
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that they can really build around and continue to move
in the right direction. But let's let's also be real.
That also takes a commitment from the organization. Has that
organization really made that commitment as of late? You know,
That's that's where you guys to discuss. I don't want
to get fund about that, but you know, you are
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you going to make that commitment to keep it all together.
That's what all of this stuff ultimately boils down to. It.
It's never really um, you know, it's never really any
shot at you know guys in particular, but you know,
I'm always keeping a Hunter, and I'm not afraid of
you know, bulletin board material. You can post something on
your bulletin all you want. You still got a guard
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and win the game. I get the Memphis Grizzy a
million bulletin board points all last year and we still
beat them in the playoffs. So you still got to
guard and like win the game. And I'm totally fine
with that, and you know, it is what it is.
But I give credit where credit is due. What Mike
Brown has gone to Sacramento and done, it's absolutely amazing.
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I expect him to continue taking that that franchise upward
in the right direction. And you know, I give credit.
I give them their props. They're doing a great job.
This has been such a weird season. I mean the
West where really since Jordan retired the second time from Chicago,
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the West has been the power Conference. And we've had
years where I remember there was a year when the Warriors,
you know, this was before your time, but the Warriors
won forty eight games and missed the playoffs. They were
the ninth seed. And in the last twenty years we've
usually seen five fifty win teams in the West. We
only have two of the season just a bizarre season
with this big clump of teams in the middle. But
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I'm asking you today, given everything that's happened this season,
where you guys started where you are now, it sounds
like you feel pretty good about things. But who should
be favored to come out of this Western Conference? Steph
Curry healthy? I think so, sources say Clay Thompson, and
I saw Clay said that the other day. He said
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the the OC goat said that if we're healthy, nobody
can beat us in a seven game series or like
our chances in a seven game series. I think I
can tell you personally, I'm pretty healthy. No one at
this point pretty healthy. Body feels good. Looni's healthy, Jordan
Poole's healthy. I think the Warrior should be the favorite because,
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quite frankly, you know, Steiny, Hey, you guys want to
look like geniuses. Let's go all right now and say
the Warrior's gonna look the Warrior's gonna win a championship,
and in about two and a half months, the Warriors
are going back to back. You're saying it here, can
I get us thought? I'm just telling you. I told
(26:28):
y'all last year, and you wanted to give a thought
and you didn't jump on the bandwise your opportunity to
look like a genius. So I'm just telling you again
you know no. But honestly, though, um and all seriousness,
I think I don't think there's any clear cut favorite
in the Western Conference. I think, you know, we love
our chances if we're healthy. Um. You know, Denver has
(26:51):
had a great year. You see everybody saying they're not,
you know, afraid to play Denver. That's neither here nor there.
You know, Memphis has had a great year of Sack
has had a great year. Phoenix adding KD, hasn't lost
a game without KD. The Lakers are a totally different
team now than they were to start the year. Clippers,
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will they get Paul George back? I think that matters.
Russ is playing at a high level now, like everyone
has grown accustomed to rush plan over the years. I
think it's a lot that can happen. And if I'm
you know, I never really take this stand on anything,
but if I'm being honest with you, I think it's
wide open. I think it is wide open as we've
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ever seen it before. And that's no cop out. You know,
I'm always gonna be real. I'm not just gonna come
on here and say the Warriors should be the favorite
just because I play with the Warriors. That's not how
I roll. Do I think the Warriors could win the championship?
I one hundred percent. We believe we can win a championship.
But guess what, the Warriors also could have missed the playoffs.
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That was also or possibility two days ago, you know.
And so I'm always going to be honest. I do
think we have a great opportunity and I think, you know,
like Clay said in the seven game series, I haven't
seen anyone beat us healthy in the seven game series.
I said that last year. I said again, no one
has proven that they can do that yet. Until someone
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proves that they can do that, I always believe that
it's us. But in saying that, I think it is
why though, well look this, I knew this was gonna
be good, but it was even better than I hoped.
And again to complete this lopsided trade that we absolutely
(28:40):
robbed you. Now, so you said, your policy is you
do not do interviews during the playoffs. So is your
podcast changing during the playoffs. It's just just gonna be y, No,
so I didn't. I didn't do interviews during the playoffs
last year. I just did. I just did a bunch
of podcasts. So you may shut like I did, gosh,
but I really during the playoffs, I really just lock
(29:01):
in on the games and break down games because as
you guys know, man, the scheduling gets tough and for
me and scheduling guests during the playoffs and trying to like, man,
I don't even focus on my wife during the playoffs,
and I love her so much. She's the best. My
kids are incredible, Like I try to unless I'm in
(29:24):
between series. I stayed like this on the game, and
I can watch other games and I'll break those games
down because I'm consumed with basketball and also watching possible opponents.
But just as far as like doing interviews and stuff
during the playoffs, unless we lose early, then I'll start,
like doing some interviews. But if we're in it, like
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I'll be breaking down games and doing that whole thing.
But it just trying to schedule and work around different
people schedule. Like I'm all for that during the regular
season and like you know, you have to continue to
live your life, but during the playoff, nothing else matters,
but the playoffs, and so I just don't really be
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wanting to hassle trying to make schedules work in different
things and taking away my focus from the playoffs. It's
one thing. It's one thing of me coming to this
hotel room after a game, popping my laptop up, popping
my light up, and shooting a podcast. Right. Um, it
takes me all the twenty twenty five minutes to do that,
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but you start getting in the interviews and you know,
it gets me out of character a little bit, and like,
I just like to stay locked there, So I don't
really do them during the playoffs. Well, Dre, you're on
the road, You're you're important, I believe, sir. Nice nice hotel.
I believe I know the hotel that is. But Dre
makes sure you stay away from those small hotel soaps.
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I didn't get to see what Chuck said that the
day I'm gonna hotel so I saw, but I saw
like a headline there says why Chuck said he will
never use hotel. So don't watch it. Don't watch I'm
not sure why try try he said. He said he
carries his own big bars of soap with him now.
(31:10):
Because the hotel soaps are so small that he that
he had an accident that it almost disappeared. Chuck say
that for somebody who want to hear that. Man, No,
I keep my soul with me. One thing my wife
jud has done, and she makes sure I keep my
soap with me when I go to hotels and not
(31:32):
using bad soap that ain't quite great for your skin.
She makes sure I keep my skincare routine with me,
uh you know, and make sure I'm dialed in there.
So I like to keep my soap. But Chuck man
say that ship for somebody who aren't hearing Chuck. Nobody
want to hear that way too much information, God Lee.
Somebody says, hey, somebody says to Charles Barkley, man, this
(31:53):
is getting like like I said in the hallway when
I when I saw you, h you your podcast. You
don't even need guests. You like you said, you turn
on the mic, open the laptop, and you're a smash hit.
But we needed we need guests on this fledgling little podcast,
so we were grateful to host you today on this
league uncut. And when you are ready to resume interviewing,
(32:17):
Haines and I will be there too. After eleven years
of throwing questions at you, you get to fire all
the questions at us. I'm looking forward to that, fellas,
I really appreciate it. I'm looking forward to just having
that conversation because I think so oftentimes it gets lost.
Like I said at the start of this, when I
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speak new media and old media, there's a space for
both their audience for both. And quite frankly, we all
live in the same bubble. And you know, I always
speak about how like man like this game works and
fees all of our families, you know, and at the
(32:58):
end of the day, you know, I know oftentimes things
are so separate, but we're all one group putting together
a product that ultimately is sold to the masses, and
it's created a wonderful life for all of us. And
so I don't take that for granted. I never look
at it like it's any hard feelings at time. Doesn't
(33:19):
get emotional, of course, but what doesn't get emotional when
it matters. I think anything that matters gets emotional, And
so you know, it's never really any hard feelings. You
do get heated, and things are will always get heated,
but ultimately it's one big team, NBA, NBA reporters, NBA players,
(33:41):
NBA staff, NBA media. It's all one big team ultimately
putting together the best product in the world to be sold.
And I'm very thankful and appreciative of that. I'm appreciative
if you brothers and all that you are bringing to
the game and the diligence that you do and doing
your work, because it doesn't go unnotice our game honestly,
(34:04):
like I can do as much as as many podcasts
as I want, um, Ultimately, it is not building the
game the way you guys build the game. I'm not
doing it every day, right, I'm not breaking down things
and keeping up on all of the current things that
you guys are, And so I don't take that for granted,
and I'm looking forward to grilling the hell out of
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y'all soon. And you're not spying. You're not spying for
the Calves either, I'm not. Hayes is definitely spine. One day,
I was a drink and he's going to admit it
to me. He was texting. He was he was texting
Lebron notes after Warrior's practicing. I appreciate y'all appreciate good
(34:47):
luck in the playoffs. Man. Thanks to ILL for doing this, absolutely,
thank you. I see both of y'all soul and that'll
do it for us. See you next time. This League
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Mark Steyne.
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