April 9, 2025 • 56 mins
The hosts of TMI, Tamika and Mysonne are back like they never left! In this new episode, the two discuss their experiences and insights on authenticity in the entertainment industry/ Tamika reflects on her recent appearance on the Sherri Shepherd show, emphasizing the significance of genuine connections and the evolving nature of personal identity. The discussion also touches on the impact of social media algorithms and the controversial tactics used in fundraising within faith-based contexts. They also speaks on the complexities of community reactions to church fundraising efforts, particularly focusing on the criticisms faced by public figures like Marvin Sapp. The discussion transitions to Elon Musk's controversial remarks and the public's perception of his actions, highlighting the disconnect between wealthy individuals and everyday citizens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Tamika d. Mallory and the.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ship Boy my son in general.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
We are your host of T m I, t.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Mika and my Son's Information, Truth, motivation and inspiration.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Name new energy. What's going on, my son, Lennon.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I am happy to be back, Tomail.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're back, We're back, We're back.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm back in this.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Why are you screaming that?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Because you know I'm a little energy. Gotta come with
a little energy. We back. Genie, always be like yo,
come with you guys have doing energy. So I came
with the energy today, you know, right, Jannis.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And with the energy table, with your energy.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Okay, just no banging, no banging, but very nice to
see you, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Likewise, you got your head done. Yes, you look it
looks like it's work.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
To the side, over the pillow and just get up
and keep it moving. Curling it the curls was real good.
It was real good curl Uh. I had a black
Jamaican woman who curled my hair for Sherry Shepherd Show
two days ago.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
She curled different. She put the perfection curls to this heir.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes, ma'am, yes, Brenda from Sherry Sheppard Show.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
She is not from the Sherry shepherdow, oh my god,
why are you acting like you know what? I realized
that you did not know who Brenda was. Brenda is
directly across from Alicia in the salon all my stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yes, yes, she's Brenda.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So she's the one.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
She Ala went to Mexico and then I said, I
tried to tell her my by the way, Alicia is
my hairstylas y'all for everybody who's listening, I was like, Alicia,
not this week, Like you cannot have a trip to
go on this week because I'm gonna be on Chevy
Shepherd Show.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
What am I gonna do? And she was like damn.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know you could see that she really considered, like damn,
I gotta do your hair.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Your hair gotta be right.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Till she when I saw her the next few days
whatever later, I was like, yeah, now you remember, I said,
what you gonna do? Because you know it's on Monday.
She said, I'm going to Mexico and you gotta call Brenda.
She called Brenda set up the appointment. She was like, yeah, baby,
I love you, but there's always gonna be something because
(02:25):
my hair style is everybody who she handles has something
going on it's whatever it is teaching, being on TV,
being in the mix.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So she gotta she gotta find a little minute for herself,
and I not she's gonna be putting out fires and
running like a person with her hair cut off.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I am very very happy for her that she got
her a little bit of.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Vacation and Brenda came to.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The Brenda came to the rescue and came to my
house at six o'clock in the morning and started with
some curls, some good curves. Okay, right, and shout out
to Tatiana who also was on the beat Beat.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So anyway, speaking of Sherry Shepherd the Sherry Shepherd Show,
first of all, let me just say that Sherry Shepherd
in general is just an incredibly authentic woman. So speaking
of Sherry Shepherd and the Sherry Shepherd Show, which I
was very very very proud and honored to be on,
(03:27):
you know, Sherry is a super authentic woman. I I
first of all, First of all, we met because people
continuously tagged us together on social media saying, y'all look
so much alike it what it used to be. Keisha
Knight Pulliam that I always, always, always was mistaken for
(03:50):
and people would tag me with Keisha all the time,
but l as of late, it's really been Sherry Shepherd.
And so we met because you know, people were saying it.
And then eventually, no matter how busy you are, no
matter how many people who are following you or speaking
to you, if you see if something is consistently being
(04:11):
stated in your comment section, you're gonna see it and
you being tagged to, you know, people saying look at
them look alike photos. So we both saw it and
somehow online we just were like, oh, you know, hey, sis,
I guess we twin and you know, and that was that.
But then Bevy Smith had a dinner and we were
both there and that's where we had our first opportunity
(04:32):
to actually sit and talk about this look alike piece.
And then of course, you know, we took a video.
We put it out and it was super cute. And
I do see the resemblance between us. I don't think
we look as much as you know, folks be going
hard like, oh my god, I thought it was Sherry
talking to Sherry. Okay, I don't know about that, yah,
(04:52):
but there's a resemblance. You see something there. Especially it
depends on the angle depends on the hair, depends on
a bunch of things.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So we just became, you.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Know, cool, off of something where other people kind of
bought us together around this idea. But once we met
at the dinner, it was just like a starr in
your eye, like.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know it, sis, I see you, you see me.
You know we cool.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So then we just seen. You know how it is.
It's like a car. Once you get one or once
your friend has one. Everywhere you go you see this
particular brand, this making model.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That's how it is.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So then all of a sudden we just see each
other here and there in the third and she always
is just so cool and so real. She's not the
type of person. It's some of these folks that you know,
these uh and I want to say entertainment because she
is an entertainment movies and all of that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So she's an entertainment.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So I'm gonna say these entertainers that you can meet
and you're like hey, and they like how you doing.
I have to say I'm very, very very very privileged
in that it doesn't happen to me often, even whether
people know me or not generally, And I think I
kind of like do the same thing on the street. Right,
(06:08):
A lot of people are like, oh, you know, you
shouldn't get out your car in this place or that
place because look at those guys or look at those people.
But when I approach people, just because we work in communities,
I know how to have a voice and a tone
that just makes people feel like, Okay, she cool.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
She gets me.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So I jump out the car and I'm in the
hood and I want to go to the store and
get me some skittles or something water, whatever it is.
And I see a bunch of guys in front of
the store. I don't act afraid, first of all, and
second of all, I just honor them, like, what's up, guys,
how y'all doing? It's good to see you, and you know,
usually the response is like, what's up?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Sists? How you doing? You know? Cool?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So the same thing with how I try to operate
in any space is that when I see people, I
try to give them reverence, respect. It ain't about me.
I don't need you to be like, hey, I'm hi,
how you doing. I'm willing to speak first. So every
time I see her, it's mad love, mad love, mad love.
And she said to me one day. You know, you
got a book coming out, you're doing different things. Let
(07:07):
me know how I.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Can be supportive.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And sure enough I was able to get on her
show now, you know, and she's not she.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Doesn't have anything.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I don't even I think she just told her producers,
who happened to be amazing black woman on this set, amazing,
all kinds of people, all different types of people. They
were amazing on the set, Patrick, or just a bunch
of people just amazing. So I'm not saying I'm not
putting this on them, but you know how hard it
is for me, especially me, to be able to get
(07:39):
in some of those mainstream spaces because you have some
of the people on the teams like, oh, she's this
or she's that too controversial, to this, to that and
the third. And so I just expected and understood that
when I was telling her, like, hey, I would love
to come on this show, if she would have said
I've not been I can't get it done, which I
(08:00):
have been told that by other black people on other shows.
By the way, I'm sorry, I really would love to
have you on. You know, I was on Tammer Hall
too during my first book. But I've had a lot
of people say I want to do it, but you
know the story, you know what I've heard. You know,
I wish I tried, but in the meeting it turned
(08:22):
into this, that and the third. So I don't know
if she had to deal with anything. I don't know
if she had to speak up for me. I have
no idea. She never made it a thing any of that.
She just was like, I want to have you on,
and the next thing, you know, I was on and
I was expecting my son to get the call from
between when she told me that I was going to
be on, which was weeks before, I was expecting that
(08:44):
she would text me and say, Sis, can we talk?
Cause I get that all the time, and I already
know what it is. You know, whenever I'm supposed to
work on a project with the celebrity or you know,
in some type of space like that and they text me,
can we talk? Know that they're either trying to get
there talking points to go back and fight, or they're
(09:04):
getting ready to tell me that. Unfortunately, these folks are
saying whatever whatever and let me support you in a
different way. So that didn't happen. It was a great conversation.
She's a beautiful person. The energy in the space was amazing.
The black women that's showing up for Sherry Shepherd is
also extremely powerful. Just beautiful to see all those black folks,
(09:28):
men and women. So it was just a really really
good vibe.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Dope, you know, it looked very amazing. Like you said,
everybody there was Dope. I was happening to be there
to support you, and you know she was.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Not to support me on you on.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You are on the payroad for the tour, so let's
get that anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's your job. And what I told you about the.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Job, do your job because we have got to do
your job.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You've got to get paid, So you got to your job.
You know. It was it was just an amazing energy.
And like you said, it's a lot of people that don't.
It's a lot of people that say, oh, we're gonna
do this and yeah, you can come on the show,
and then it's and but I respect the people that
say I can't because that's just the reality. Look, I'm
at the boss here, you know, I work for some
people and they said this. But the people that pissed
(10:19):
me off is the ones that said they gonna do
it and then they don't respond your your cyst and bro,
we got you, we got you, like I don't, I
don't even, I don't even energy. No, it's not even
a fight. It's just for me. It's like, why should
I have to fight because you volunteered something and we're
still in this issue because it's people. It's just it's
(10:42):
so much fake ship in this industry, and you know,
and you just I've grown past the calling out and
feeling a way because I know these be the same
people that you'll hug tomorrow, that see you and be like,
oh yo, yeah, you call me tomorrow. It's the same
shit you see them, and it's the industry. Hug the industry.
You just hit me up, we're gonna do this. And
then you call them, they never answer what they respond
(11:04):
once and then you see him again they act like
they never told you. They told you last time, and
you just keep playing this game. And before it would
pissed me off.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Before I remember, because you used to pull people like
you can't me.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
But now I realized that you know, you know that,
I know that you bullshit and I know you know,
so I don't have to do because you you gotta
deal with that. I don't even I don't take it
on myself no more because that's the world we live
in this industry. But it's good to see that there
are still people still a genuine and authentic and you know,
it was a dope interview. The energy was dope. You know,
(11:36):
it was fun. It wasn't you know. It dived into
the book, but it had some fun things she showed
you social media. It was it just was a dope.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And you know what, I think that my appearance on
Sherry Shepherd's show showed. It gave people the ability to
see the other sides of me because I have been
boxed into what I have present. I'm not trying to
say that people should just out of the head imagine
(12:05):
something other than what they continuously see that you.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Promote about yourself.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And what I have been very comfortable as and what
I am until the death of me is an activist,
an organizer, a strategist in the movement. I am absolutely
that I am a protester. That's what I am. But
I just want folks to be able to see that
there is a human side to people that is not
just in front of a bullhorn, microphone camera. You know,
(12:33):
just being the angry black woman all the time, although
I'm angry as shit, and I don't let nobody take
that from me however, however, or try to weaponize that,
because we should be angry about everything that is happening
in our society. But I will say that I also
have other things about me, and I am evolving as
(12:55):
a person. My forty four year old self is very
much different than what people met in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one. I have a whole new thing going
on that I can feel rising up in me, and
so I think the interview gave an opportunity for people
to see those things, and it made people mad because
(13:15):
I've already received a few dms from people I know
and don't know, like those bikini pictures, like you're letting
people diminish your brand.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I love when they get mad about the bikini is why.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Would it diminish your brand?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean people are weird because they you know what
it is people have in their mind what your brain
is to them, So that means it's to you what
you think it is exactly. No, my brain is not
like when I say I'm gangsters woke. It's for people.
Oh you can't No, I can be. You can't be.
You don't get to tell me. Look, if I'm outside
and you approach me in a way, I'm gonna handle
(13:50):
it that way. When it comes to being woke, I'm
gonna speak on behalf of my people. I'm going to
merge both parts of me to create who I am, right,
And I don't have to make you feel comfortable. Yeah,
I don't have to make you feel comfortable about who
I am and that's okay. And you don't have to
like that part of me. You can be like you
know what, they can be like Yo, you know what?
To me, I don't really want to see you in
(14:11):
the babies don't look right. Go to like you said,
go to until freedom page. You're gonna see all of
the business and all. But on this page, I might
have on a babing suit, I might do this, I
might do whatever I want on my personal page, because
this is my personal life. And people gotta understand that
the Internet makes people. And we love you as fans.
(14:31):
We want you to love us for what you love
us for. Right. If you just like my wraps, my
YouTube page is full of raps, going in and watch
my raps. If you don't like my political stance, don't
come to my Instagram. Right, It's not gonna work for
you because I'm gonna speak on what I think. So
take the part of me that you like and enjoy it.
Take it with you, but don't put the rest of
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the shit on me, because the other part you don't like,
that's me. It's still me, and I'm not gonna change
it to make you happy.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So it is, it is what it is, Yes, but
I am very grateful for that opportunity. And more over,
and this is my thought of the day, I am
grateful for the way that people are showing up on
this tour now. I know in season four we talked
about this as well, because the tour just began and
(15:22):
there was so many incredible people coming out, and I
said that I was just, you know, very very grateful.
But I really want to kind of come at it
from a different perspective today, because yes, people are showing up.
And when I say showing up, it is amazing to me.
It's beyond what I could have imagined. I knew that
(15:42):
I wanted, which is why I have funded my entire
tour myself, and I knew that I wanted a And
by the way, funding my tour doesn't mean people haven't
had to purchase tickets depending on the venues or whatever.
But in terms of how I got there, the travel
for the most part, ninety percent of the time, I've
(16:03):
covered it myself. I've covered the team, different individuals who've
either had to travel with me or handling different aspects
of it. I've purchased books myself to give away here
to give to different people. I have done as much
as I can because I understand that the investment from
you for you is going to be more significant. You're
(16:25):
going to get more of a return from the investment
that you put into yourself. My publishing team amazing, amazing, amazing.
They have gone above and beyond to support me. But
there are still limitations with a company that's working with
a million authors. So if you really really want to
see a product that is like a product that represents
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you in exactly what you want and your capabilities and
your brand, you have to invest in it, right. And
I know that's hard for people to hear because it's like, damn,
I already struggled for you to hear what.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You mean, because I had to, damn it. I'm not
about this book, but just in general, I tell you
believe in certain things. You're be like, wow, I don't
know if people are going to come and I don't know. No,
you have, you have it, you have.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That particular part is different.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What I'm saying is I always believe in investing in
myself because no matter what we've done on this podcast,
to my other businesses, to UH until Freedom, to the
Justice League, and anything that we've been involved in, I
have always put my credit card up with everybody else's.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Let me let me I guess what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Is but I think you're speaking to the first part
of what I was saying, which is the way that
people are showing up is beyond my imagination and.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I told you that it shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But but well, it's it's that people are. If you
know some of the events that I have been a
part of the group of people who are having it right.
The host let's just say they're charging one hundred and
ten dollars for a ticket because they're feeding people, giving
(18:15):
you a drink ticket, giving you a book that's signed
by me, and of course they got to pay for
a venue, so they have all that going on. Sure,
I get there on my own in most situations. Few
times other people have paid for me to come, But
for the most part I don't even ask. I let
them offer, or if not, if it's something I want
to do, I'm on my way because I understand that
(18:37):
having events for somebody, and this is my book, this
ain't they booked like you know what I'm saying, it's
a lot. It's if venues are not cheap, dinner, drinks,
whatever you have, it's not cheap. So for somebody to
go in their pocket in this day and age, with
all the expenses, the eggs too high, to bread to
how to gas too high, the daycare, distress of what's
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going on on the tea, the world is a mess
for them to go in there pocket and say I'm
gonna spend one hundred and ten dollars on this event
so I could go and be a part of something
for Temiega Mallory. And it's not just one, but in
most places, one hundred, one hundred and fifty two hundred,
three hundred people just this past weekend, and there have
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been some situations where it's even more folks than that
showing up to celebrate and or just to be in
community with me and other people. That is amazing. It's
amazing to me. Amazing to get back to.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
My Twitter of the day.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
The thing that has been eye opening to me is
the creativity and the genius and the entrepreneurial spirit of
folks all over this country, everywhere that I've been. You
think I have a book, people have six books that
they have written on education, on health, kid on serious issues,
(20:02):
or novels or you know, the Coldest Winter Ever sequel. Right,
people in there, they're in their literary bag.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They're in their author bag. People with all these books.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I have so many books that come back with me
in my suitcase. Sometimes I have to have them ship
because twenty people in a room have a book that
they're giving me. Also products, right, make a lipstick, you
know anything, hair care products, stuff they're making at home
(20:36):
wanting you to test. Now, y'all can stop giving me
stuff that you're making at home that you want me
to test that doesn't have a seal and a label
and all that, because I'm telling you right now, I'm
not gonna I'm not going to test it, and I'm
not gonna eat the cookie or the whatever you bringing
me that you made in your house. I'm just not
gonna do it. You know, I'm just being honest, so
(20:56):
you don't even bother.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And by the way, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Even want I really don't don't even want anything when
i'm you know, most of the time, I'm like, let
me just maybe have a glass of wine, maybe a plate.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't want anything.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That has to do with that because I unfortunately I've
never met you before, you don't really know me. I
don't know where this stuff is coming from. I don't
know what it's gonna do to my skin, and I
wouldn't bring it to you and expect you to use
something that you whipped up in the kitchen and people
be in my ear like I did this in the
kitchen this and that.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I really really understand, but I'm personally not going to
put it on my body.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's just my truth. Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Nonetheless, the jackets, the Duffel bags. The one lady in
Buffalo gave me a gen Duffel bag with my name
on it. All kinds black folks are making everything that
we need. Everything so even the stuff that's being whipped
(21:52):
up in the kitchen, it's going somewhere. It's going from
tests to tube. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna
make it there because the products this stuff is like
really good.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And I feel like and I love what they're doing
on Easter.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Pastor Bryant, Jamaal Bryant and other passes around the country
are opening up their churches as vendor spaces so that
people who are even in target maybe not in target,
Black vendors in general, will have the opportunity to be showcased.
And I just feel like a lot more of our
attention has to be spent in that particular way and
(22:28):
that area of uplifting these people who don't have platforms,
but they are out here with the thing that you want.
You don't I have stuff where I don't need the
jacket from such and such downtown in whatever whoever makes
the jackets, like, I don't need that jacket because the
black people making biker jackets.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
So anyway, that's what I think.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I think a lot more of our attention has to
be on uplifting these folks who are our genius is
in their own way and making sure that the rest
of the world gets to see it. And the thing
about social media is that the algorithm is only going
to allow us to promote so much of a thing,
(23:12):
So only what ten percent?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I think.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
What's our brothers Isaac Hayes would say it's even less
than ten percent of your following is seeing your content,
the products and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I think we have to be a lot more intentional, right,
I think we have to create an algorithm because the
algorithm is there, right, and I think consistency, that's what
I realized about algorithm. Right. We say that the algorithm
grabs this. The algorithm grabs this because it sees that
there's a need for it, and especially on your page,
like certain things on your page, they figure out that
(23:48):
certain people come to your page for certain things. So
when you know what your algorithm is, because when you
put out these certain things, you get a bunch of comments,
you get a bunch of lives, because that is the
bucket they've put you. Right in order for you to
break out of that bucket, you gotta get start giving
them something consistent outside of that, and so it can
break into a different algorithm. So it's a process to
(24:10):
do it, but you have to be intentional. And since
I think that you that's a great idea because I
know during you know, during the pandemic and during when
we did a lot of just promoting all black people stuff,
you know, after that boycott a Nike and I started
promoting black you know, brands, the algorithm picked up. They
(24:30):
really was picking up on it because it became something
that I was, you know, focused on, and then people
will come to tune in for it. So I think
we I think we have an algorithm for it. I
think we should really start being I think you have
it too, because you can. Yeah, I think, well, I
know I have an algorithm for I know every.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Time that you can have an algorithm.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You have, the algorithm picks up on my page for
certain things.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I think you have an audience for the audience algorithm
for Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's all inside the audience. Your audience is part of
your algorithm. That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
When your audience what the algorithm is like, it's kind
of like the popularity of your content.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I don't know, I don't know what anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It is pretty much your fan base, right, what your
fan base reacts to that's your algorithm. Right, So when
you when you put certain things on your page, you know,
when you talk about social justice things, when you talk
about certain things, you get a immediately people grab on it.
You get the people to promoted, you get websites, they
because that's what they want to see. Because they immediately
(25:43):
see a lot of the other stuff that you put
on there, they don't even see it because you can
tell by the amount of views that you have. It's like,
why is it I not this is good content, but
it hasn't fit into your algorithm because it doesn't fit
into what your audience normally said. So the computer doesn't
send it out with the same vigor that it does.
So that's what the algorithm does. The computer identifies the
(26:06):
content you have and realize, oh, this is the content
that people know how for, so they make sure that
all of your followers see it. Yeah, but when you
don't have that and you still putting new stuff up,
the views get very low. So we gotta just build it.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Of interesting information because you know, I don't really pay
attention that much and I don't really know how it operates.
I just post stuff and keep it moving. But there
is obviously a science to it. So let's get into
our t M. I the too much. You're doing too.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Much, too much, getting done too much.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Too much. So everybody's up and not everybody. Let me
stop saying everybody, because there's a lot of people who
are not up in arms about it at all.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But there is a.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Conversation about Marvin sat that is a re surface video,
so it's not something that happened recently that someone put out.
Where he is at a conference, uh. And he tells people,
which is a it's a church conference, which is mostly
where he is all the time, and he tells the
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trustees and security, lock the doors, don't let anybody out.
I'm raising money. I need to raise forty thousand dollars
in here. And he starts to tell people how he
wants it raised. You know, he wants it twenty five dollars,
twenty dollars, twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I think was some was it?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Was the baseline? I think that was the baseline. I
could be wrong. Yeah, so Janisi is twenty dollars, right,
it was the baseline. And so again he's at a conference, right,
and so he starts asking for this, and I guess
they've calculated it's exceed If it's packed, then you could
get to your amount by this. And so people are like, oh,
you know, he's telling he's locking people in, which is
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kind of like holding people hostage. You know, it's like
kind of like quasi kidnapping. And there you know, that's
from the comments what I see. And one of the
questions that was asked is like, where's the line between.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Stewardship and showmanship?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I think for a lot of people when they say showmanship,
I think I'm just getting in other people's heads and
honoring their thoughts that when you say showmanship, what you're
really kind of saying is that it's so much pomp
and circumstance, and then you got to raise all this
money and you want to you know, to be on
the stage, lock the doors and talking whatever. And people
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see it as performative even though and they say our
work is performative too.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
This is a normal a word.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
No, So folks feel like, you know, he's wrong because
he is locking people in and essentially forcing them to
come up with X amount of dollars at this faith
based conference. So the question then becomes, I have an opinion.
(29:06):
I always have an opinion, and for tem I we
might not always have our own opinions, but I do
have an opinion. But I do I would put it
out there to the world, do you know. Never mind,
we're not up to the question yet. Right now, I
just want to hear what you think about it. We
actually never really talked about this.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
And I think for me, it's like anything, what did
the church say, the people in the church? Did the
people did somebody come forward that was at the conference,
that was in the church that felt defended that? Have
we heard that?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well, the video came from somebody in the church at
the event.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I mean, just showing the video doesn't mean that you're offended.
You might just.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
There's been no outcry from the attendees to say, oh
my god, we feel so you know, harmed by this.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And I think that's telling, right. I think in any situation,
like when you talk about people like that, there's always
been this conversation about the past. Is you know in
a collection played? And why do you need a collection plate?
And I say to myself, if you don't go to
that church, then you wouldn't understand if you not donating,
if you're not putting your money in that collection plate,
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then you shouldn't have an issue what goes in that
collection plate. It's always outside people that have an issue
about people giving him money, grown adult people who said,
you know what, I would like to put my money
in this collection plate because I believe in this church,
I believe in that past. I believe they're going to
do something good with my money, and I'm okay with that.
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These are grown people making decisions. So for me, I
think that every time, it's always the backlash coming from
people that have nothing to do with the situation. Right,
So if the people who were in the church right,
who were in this conference came forward and felt like
what he was doing was wrong, if his congregation was
saying that he was going about something wrong, that I
would understand that. Then there would be a conversation. But
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the fact that you just somebody looking on and you you,
first of all, you're not even familiar with the culture
of that church, with that preacher, with the culture of
that congregation, or that that you know, that convention, you
don't you're not familiar with what goes on in that
So you're making an assessment and the decision based on
something you know. It's like it's like a relationship. It's
like seeing being mad at the way two people deal
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with their relationship, and they not mad at it.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
But if you see a man being a woman.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Being a woman is different. If a man tell us woman,
you'll go get me some food and she started laughing.
I like when you might like, she might like the
way he tell her to gets it might be role
playing for them. You're paying attention to people's business and
you've made an assessment that is wrong because it's not
for you. That's why you ain't in that relationship. That's
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why you wasn't at that conference. That's why you don't
go to that man's church. You go to the preacher
the church that says, hey, if you have a couple
of hours, can you please give it to I've been
to churches.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
That they don't send her.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
They don't say but that also been to churches and
not even church. I've been to mars where they say, listen,
we need to raise one hundred thousand dollars, and we
know a few of y'all got about five thousand dollars,
got good suits on. You know what I'm saying. Don't
don't leave too fast. I know you got a good
suit on and we know we can get two or
three of y'all to put five thousand dollars because we
need to make and you know what happens, and people
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come out there in pockets or they don't, and then
and if people are happy and they come back, every
in the church is full. The monster is still full.
So what I'm trying to say is people always want
to have an opinion about somebody else's situation. If you're
not a church person, if you don't go to that
type of church, if you're not into that type of church,
then find but trying to say that it's wrong because
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it's something not something that you would do. It's not illegal,
it's not crime. Nobody's robbed anybody, nobody's filed these charges.
You probably just need to go to a church that
fits you. That preacher in that situation is just not
for you. That's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, I mean, I well, here's my opinion. I'm not
even gonna get into a long drawn out thing. The
bottom line is that I've been going to church since
I was a little girl. And not only have I
been in church since I was a little girl, I've
also been in uh in organizations, civil rights organizations. Since
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I was a little child, and as young as five
years old, my mother used to roll up whatever the
money that I'm supposed to you know, that is my portion.
She taught me about tithing and stewardship from a young age.
From five years old, I had my own envelopes, my
own number stick, my little five dollars in there. I
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used to save it all week so by the end
of the week, you know, fifty cent, twenty five.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Cent or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Then she would put whatever else so that five dollars
would be in my envelope. And I can remember multiple
times being in church or being at a rally, or
in some situation where the pastor will say, nobody move
while I'm raising money, or the speaker, nobody moves while
I'm raising money. Matter fact, close the door. Nobody might
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want nobody moving for two reasons. The first reason is
just on a lighter side. You know, it's like, nah,
we're gonna get this money in here today, so ain't
nobody getting Now is not the time you done have
your holy spirit, You done sang songs and did all
the things you feel me up floor, and now when
it's time to get the collection played going you finna
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slide on out, slip tiptoe with the one finger in
the air. So that's on a lighter note, but on
the serious side, when people start moving all around and
money is being collected and you don't know what's going on,
and pastors, just like everybody else, have the right to say,
hold up, I want to.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
See where the moving pieces are.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
While I'm up here vulnerable, either collecting money or not.
I know some past SAIDs that are even concerned about
people running around and moving too much in the church
in the spirit.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Because the door you might really need.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So with that being said, with that being said, and
holding that on one side, that this is regular, this
is this culture.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
And to your point, to your point, the reason.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Why there are not one hundred, two hundred people even
fifteen people that were in the room that day saying
that was in the facility that day saying oh, I'm
so offended and upset about it, is because most people
that go to churches, especially at the level of Marvin Sap,
Marvin Sap is not the preacher from the corner of
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your community. And I'm not saying that he ain't because
he raised money too. The corner preacher raised money too. Okay,
so let's just get that. But Marvin sap is on
a totally different level. When you go to his church,
it's a it's a bigger space, there's more expenses. The
real question is not how he said it and whether
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or not to me, some other people will say, no,
it does matter to me how he said it.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Cool, that's that's you. But it doesn't that that's not
I'm not caught up in that. What I want to
know is what are.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
The services that the church provides from from Sunday to Saturday.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That's what I want to know. I want to know
after church is over, what do they do?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Because I know for a fact, not because of what
I think, not because of what somebody told me. But
I know for a fact that Marvin Sapps specifically and
his congregation are very very community oriented. I know for
a fact that they feed people. I know for a
fact that they're invested in housing, that they do community activities,
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that they are giving out scholarships, that their work, they're
holding up young people. Now, I can see if all
you see is the past to just rolling up, get
the money, and then the church does nothing in the
community cool, you need to raise that. As members of
the church, you need to raise that. But I know
the type of pastor he is because I know his friends.
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I know where he comes from. I know that Jamal
Brian is one of his friends. I know that Rudy McKissick,
who is one of my best friends, is one of
his friends. I know who he's around and the people
that are he's around. They have ministries that are deeply
invested in community. So if somebody can show me where
the money that's being raised is going towards vacation for
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not just him, before the staff and everybody to go
on Monday until Friday, they go to the beach and
then they come back on Saturday and they act like
they just back for preparation for church, then I can
tell me that. But if what you're telling me is
you didn't like the way he said it, and yet
the work that's being done is something that you do
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like I'm not acting.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So that's how I feel about it. I think, y'all,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I don't think Marvin Sapp is the one that was
doing too much in this situation.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I think the critics are doing.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
They always in the comments that might be a segment
we need to do in the comments. In the comments, let.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Us go to the next thing because Janice is gonna
kill us. So our next topic today is hilarious to me.
I mean, just knocked down on the floor.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Just swipe, just.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Screaming, hollering that you okay, I know how I'm gonna
say it.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I know you fucking lying that Elon Musk is out
of his rabbit ass. Mine.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
This man is doing an interview. You posted this. He's
doing this interview here where he is saying, I can't
believe that people are watching my think he said, Bernie
saying Tim Walls. He said, he said that Tim Walls,
(39:08):
and it's a creep.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
He called him a creep. He said, what kind of creep?
You know? He's he's on stage and he's parading the
fall of chestless stocks, stock numbers.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Right, Okay, don't don't don't do Okay, he has disabilities.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I don't know if he has. He never said, I'm
just I'm just speaking to He said, you know, and
and he's parading, he's parading the stock for right, What
kind of creep does that? What kind of creep? Praise
and Happiness he's someone fall No one does that. No, no, no,
you know he's a creep. He's a creep, this guy.
So what I'm saying to myself, how could he be
a creep when you was on the stage.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I never saw this, I never saw.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I never saw the man had a soul. Somebody he
cutting the jobs and he was a government.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And like one of them conferences with all the white
people like this, but I didn't know he had He
was like this, like a chainsaw.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
It was a fake chainsaw, but they gave him the
chainsaw simulating that he.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Was going to simulating.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Symbolizing the same thing. I know what I'm talking about,
all the ole thing. But anyway, he was simulating like
he was cutting the prices, and he was cutting the jobs.
So you felt felt it was a creep, right, somebody
was a creep for talking about your stock prices. You're
the richest man in the world, and there was a
creep because they talk about how your stock prices had plummeted.
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But you was the good person for just cutting people's jobs,
every day jobs that worked their whole life and went
to school and and did everything they could to get
in these federal jobs and you cut their jobs, and
you made a joker. But yeah, we're cutting it all,
get rid of it. But you wasn't the creep though.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
But not only are you cutting jobs, you're calling people
parasites for needing social services. And meanwhile, you are an
American welfare and recipient because every single one of your
businesses you have needed American money. You have needed handouts
in order to save them because they were failing. You
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and Trump have literally robbed the system literally to if
we're going by your.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Stations, think about but just think about just you got
to really think about what they're telling you, right, what
Social Security is right, because the average person that works
every day, the tax money goes, they have the Social
Security like immediately they take it out of your check.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
And it goes to the and it goes and social
Security money does get used.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
So the Social Security money is every person in America
that most of the people that work, that money goes
into the pot to pay. So when you can't work,
to when you're too old, when you have disability, when
you've done all the work and you can now you
get the money that you delay away. So you're telling
people that delay their money away that they parasites, right,
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but oh no.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Well that's that's social security.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
But and now and he what, well, I can't say
he made a distinction, but I would imagine that what
he would say is that he's talking more so about
food stamps and uh checks and what I'm saying, I know, no,
I'm not saying he hasn't attacked social security. And yes
there's some specific things there, but I'm saying, well, he
made the parasite comment. I just want to give credit,
(42:36):
like not credit, but I just want to be careful
to make.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Sure well, he said that people who take social security, Oh.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I didn't because I know what I was going to
try to do is and what by the way, I'm
not trying to say that. I'm not trying to make
it better, y'all. Wasn't trying to make it better. What
I was trying to do is say, let's go with
your theory. Let's not even talk about social security. Let's
just go with what welfare and what's the other thing,
welfare and food stamps?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Right, let's just go with that.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
What I'm trying to say is that you were able
to come to this country to build your businesses and
when they failed, you turned to government assistance to get
you some money to help save your businesses. If that's
if that, I don't and by the way, and by
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the way, that's government assistance. And by the way, I'm
not saying that you're a parasite. Right, well, I'm saying
it now. I'm saying it now. Now I'm saying and
that's the same. So now I'm now are with you,
Now I'm with you that they're exactly you're a worse
parasite than some of the little parasites that's getting three
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hundred dollars a month for food stamps.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
So we're talking about real parasites here.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
You a piranha. Okay, you're the piranha for sure. So
but what I'm saying is that since you want to
label people, can't why you didn't sit on the TV
and just say, you know what, it's fair game, you
know cool, If that's what Tim Walls want to do,
that's fine. You know why, because you are not just
a You're not just a narcissist. You're a diabolical, dangerous
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individual that you want people to feel sorry for you.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Not only but no, not only that, I ain't mean
to cut you off. But the man said, one of
the biggest faults in America is empathy. He said, that's
one of the biggest flaws that America has, is that
we have empathy. Just think about the mind state of
a person that says empathy is a flaw. So now
you telling them, You just said it, told the whole
world that America's flaws is empathy. But you want people
(44:44):
to be empathetic that you lost your billion dollars and
you got more money than anybody in the world. You
want people to be empathetic that your stock is for.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
You know what I mean? You know what I think
is so funny. I can imagine that any half.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Of an adult that works around these people, any half
of an adult, right, Like, let's just say Milania is
half of an adult, because she don't be wanting to
be around with them. She don't even be wanting fool
with them jokers. But let's just say she's half of
an adult. And she watches out the window of the
White House, maybe if she's there or on the news
(45:21):
while she's in New York at home with her son,
who she says, I have to stay with my son
because he's in college and I need to be there,
which fine, says, do your thing. But if she sees
them with a tesla on the lawn, like on the whatever,
the pavement of the White House with these two big
(45:42):
dummies Donald Trump and standing there.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Was terrible. Trump was telling you weeks ago. It's terrible.
I don't even know why. Why would anybody buy now?
I love my tesla.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Kilon Musk is standing there like, yeah, help me, help me,
help me. They're messing with my money, help me, help me.
And Donald Trump is like trying to sell it. I
can imagine that this lady is just like this is
so embarrassing. It is very embassing.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I mean when you have any level of sanity.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Because we don't know her family, right, we don't know
her family, so for all we know, she's got family
members that's calling her saying now.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Girl, because you know she kind of brown slightly a
little a little a little little bit of something that's
in there. We did I need to do a little research.
She probably got somebody that's like, girl, what in the world.
It's a ship It's a ship show.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
The ship show. And speaking of a ship show, that
brings me to my idom. Meet now this video has
been serviced. You sent me this video, and I'm like,
why would you send me this?
Speaker 3 (46:56):
I sent it to you for a very specific reason,
but I'll wait until you finished.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I'm sitting there and I just see like a little
video and just tunes to this man. He happens to
be a Caucasian white man, Caucasian white and all of
a sudden, you just see like this little sprinkle coming
from between and he's sitting on a plane. And the
man is literally sitting on a plane peeing, like peeing
(47:25):
in the seat, not in the bathroom, in the seat, Like, well,
I'm so confused now. It looks like it might be
something wrong with his prostate too, because he don't.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Really have what are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
It's like it's like the little bit of p might
be peeing.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
On his balls, but maybe it was something else. Maybe
he because we don't see his actual peepee.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, you don't get to see that. The fact that
it was a it wasn't. This man was peeing on plane.
He was peeing. And if this was me, I would
have threw water on him. I would have screamed everything, Yeah,
what you're doing? He nasty mother. If I'd have called
him out like that, Literally, you have to get off
the plane, like it's no way that you that lazy
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or anything that you're sitting there peeing on a plane.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
But you what's going on?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I just don't understand the mind state of a man
that's sitting on a plane. And the thing is somebody
is taping you. They across from you. He never looked
to the side one time to see if anybody else
was looking at him. He's literally just sitting there like this,
peeing like it's the weirdest shit.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
But there is something, there's something about what's y'all don't
get it.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
I don't get the man peeing on a plane. But
what do you mean? But I don't get it? Do
you get him being on a plane?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah? Because you know what, there's some freaks out here.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
It's people that they do exposing themselves. They are people
who he might be one of those people that has
a mixture of exposure.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
He wants to be what's call when.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
You expose yourself, it's called being a exhibitionist. Right, But no,
but listen, he might be an exhibitionist and he likes
to pee on people all in one thing like he
probably is some weird ass freak. But you know what
I don't get. This is what I don't get.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I expect.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Let me tell you what I expect. Let me tell
you what I expect.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Me expect.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
No, No, I'm not even I think the person who
recorded is important because it helps supprove my point.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
I get it all.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
What I don't get is how anybody would take themselves
on the plane.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
And sit in the seat and use the screen.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
The the what you call the thing, the lights, and
the air conditioning, and put the seatbelt on and touch
the buttons on the side when you have no way
of knowing if the person before you was pissing on
the plane. I clean everything that I can. I'm not
saying that. I'm not saying that I am cleaning it
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to the point where I'm not getting I'm not touching
any germs.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
But I tell you what I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
I'm definitely not putting my head the back of my
hair on a headboard or the yeah, the headboard, it's
not the headboard, but the head rest, the head rest
of the plane, knowing that your dan drift, your sweat,
your whatever is going into my head. And then I'm
gonna take my head and put it in my in
my in my hat, in my.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Head, scar in my bed. Are you crazy?
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Nah, I'm wiping that down. If I have time and
I get on the plane early enough, I wipe the
seat from the top.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Down.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
I pull the flaps, you know how to the flaps
be back like this, I pull them and clean them.
Because one time I happen to be talking to a
friend who was I was in comfort, the first row
of comfort, and my friend was in first class, and
I leaned up.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
To say, hey, girl, you know, good to see you know,
you're just talking somebody.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
You happen to bump into them on a plane, and
I happened to look my head and saw that I
guess they was eating food or whatever. They must have
grabbed like this, and it was like ketch up and something.
It was so filthy, and I'm like, I told her,
don't move. Another thing that happened to me one day
I was on the plane and this man was sitting.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Right across and he.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Was cleaning his nose and doing and he hawked into
the tissue. And when the flight attendant came by, she
took all the people's stuff, which she should have had
her gloves on, but she didn't, and this man, knowing
what was in this tissue, gave it to her in
her hand. I got up and shot myself to the front,
(51:51):
to the little area, because how do I know she
gonna wash her hands in between making somebody's drink. That's
why I don't drink out there. Glass would like to
have a plastic cut. I mean, I don't play around.
I clean, and so I don't understand anybody that gets
on the plane without some wipes or something to say,
let me wipe this down before I sit my ass
(52:13):
down here and go to sleep and lay back and
do all.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Of this and touch the thing.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
And then I want to pick my own nose or
rub my face or scratch somewhere. And I'm gonna take
piss from a man with me and boogers and nastiness.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
So when you ask what boogers and nastiness?
Speaker 1 (52:34):
When you ask, when you say, what, you don't get?
Speaker 2 (52:37):
She said, boers and nastiness. Oh my god, you can't
make this up. And the funny part is, y'all think
she exaggerated, but she ain't even giving you the full story.
The lady gets on the plane and it be to
the point where they give her all of the whites.
Like she goes to the person, my own wife, you
(52:58):
have she got a bag for the wife, about three
hundred of them. But she still makes sure. She goes
to the flight attendant, say do you have wipes? And
they don't. They stop giving them out, you know, recently
some of them. And if they have them, they'll give
her the whole bag. And she she's like a kid
in the candy. So she lights up, her eyes light up.
She puts them in the bag. She goes to her
(53:19):
seat and she opens them up and she wipes. And
if I happen to be sitting next to her, she's like, no, no, no, no,
sit there, don't touch anything. What are you doing? Don't
touch it? And then she'll pass you the wipe. And
then if you don't do it good enough, she's like no, no, no,
no no. The button's there, no no, no no, and
she wipes it down, and do you be sitting there? Funny,
And she wipes the whole seat down. She wipes every button,
(53:43):
seat belt, she makes anything, and if you anything too much,
she'll be like, don't touch that. It is a full movie.
It is not And this is every flight. It's not
like once. This is every flight. She doesn't take no
days off.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yes I do, I say, am a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
I can be like because the night from the night before,
I feel like the germs they kind of they you know,
once that plane is parked for you know, however many hours,
eight hours or seven hours, and they wiped it down
a little bit. When I get on at six o'clock,
I'm like, I'm basically heading home to try to clean
myself up.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Anyways, so I'm gonna just go with it.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
But this this head thing, head rest, I cannot put
my hair.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Oh anyway, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
It's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
I am very serious about it.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
I just think cleanliness is next to godliness, as the
Muslim community says.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I agree. I agree. I mean, but you are godly
necks next to godiness because if you if cleanliness now,
because you it's above and beyond. Like it's above and beyond.
She wants me watch you with your phone and like,
did you did you wipe the phone down? Like wipe
your phone off? Like she does this to everybody. She'll
watch a stranger about to touch something and be like,
(55:11):
let me.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Just say this, I found my tribe. I found my
people because in the comments section where the man was
paying Janice, I wrote a comment and I said, I
cannot believe that people sit there and they don't clean
down area, and there is there are a bunch of
folks in there who are saying cuss words like I
don't give a shit, who don't like it? I clean everything.
(55:33):
They gotta wait for me to clean it down. I
said that what I'm talking about, get it, that's it.
Those my people in the comment section. Matter of fact,
I need to see who them people are so I
can send every single one of them my book.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
I live to tell the story. Okay, lord, there we go.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
You with that said brings us to the end of
another episode. So it definitely was a good start to
the new season. Season five.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yes, season five.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're back, We're back, We're back.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm back in this.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Why are you screaming that?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Because you know I'm a little energy. Gotta come with
a little energy. We back. Genie, always be like yo,
come with you guys have doing energy. So I came
with the energy today, you know, right, Jannis.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And with the energy table, with your energy.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Okay, just no banging, no banging, but very nice to
see you, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Likewise, you got your head done. Yes, you look it
looks like it's work.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
To the side, over the pillow and just get up
and keep it moving. Curling it the curls was real good.
It was real good curl Uh. I had a black
Jamaican woman who curled my hair for Sherry Shepherd Show
two days ago.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
She curled different. She put the perfection curls to this heir.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes, ma'am, yes, Brenda from Sherry Sheppard Show.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
She is not from the Sherry shepherdow, oh my god,
why are you acting like you know what? I realized
that you did not know who Brenda was. Brenda is
directly across from Alicia in the salon all my stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yes, yes, she's Brenda.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So she's the one.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
She Ala went to Mexico and then I said, I
tried to tell her my by the way, Alicia is
my hairstylas y'all for everybody who's listening, I was like, Alicia,
not this week, Like you cannot have a trip to
go on this week because I'm gonna be on Chevy
Shepherd Show.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
What am I gonna do? And she was like damn.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know you could see that she really considered, like damn,
I gotta do your hair.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Your hair gotta be right.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Till she when I saw her the next few days
whatever later, I was like, yeah, now you remember, I said,
what you gonna do? Because you know it's on Monday.
She said, I'm going to Mexico and you gotta call Brenda.
She called Brenda set up the appointment. She was like, yeah, baby,
I love you, but there's always gonna be something because
(02:25):
my hair style is everybody who she handles has something
going on it's whatever it is teaching, being on TV,
being in the mix.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So she gotta she gotta find a little minute for herself,
and I not she's gonna be putting out fires and
running like a person with her hair cut off.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I am very very happy for her that she got
her a little bit of.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Vacation and Brenda came to.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The Brenda came to the rescue and came to my
house at six o'clock in the morning and started with
some curls, some good curves. Okay, right, and shout out
to Tatiana who also was on the beat Beat.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So anyway, speaking of Sherry Shepherd the Sherry Shepherd Show,
first of all, let me just say that Sherry Shepherd
in general is just an incredibly authentic woman. So speaking
of Sherry Shepherd and the Sherry Shepherd Show, which I
was very very very proud and honored to be on,
(03:27):
you know, Sherry is a super authentic woman. I I
first of all, First of all, we met because people
continuously tagged us together on social media saying, y'all look
so much alike it what it used to be. Keisha
Knight Pulliam that I always, always, always was mistaken for
(03:50):
and people would tag me with Keisha all the time,
but l as of late, it's really been Sherry Shepherd.
And so we met because you know, people were saying it.
And then eventually, no matter how busy you are, no
matter how many people who are following you or speaking
to you, if you see if something is consistently being
(04:11):
stated in your comment section, you're gonna see it and
you being tagged to, you know, people saying look at
them look alike photos. So we both saw it and
somehow online we just were like, oh, you know, hey, sis,
I guess we twin and you know, and that was that.
But then Bevy Smith had a dinner and we were
both there and that's where we had our first opportunity
(04:32):
to actually sit and talk about this look alike piece.
And then of course, you know, we took a video.
We put it out and it was super cute. And
I do see the resemblance between us. I don't think
we look as much as you know, folks be going
hard like, oh my god, I thought it was Sherry
talking to Sherry. Okay, I don't know about that, yah,
(04:52):
but there's a resemblance. You see something there. Especially it
depends on the angle depends on the hair, depends on
a bunch of things.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So we just became, you.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Know, cool, off of something where other people kind of
bought us together around this idea. But once we met
at the dinner, it was just like a starr in
your eye, like.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know it, sis, I see you, you see me.
You know we cool.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So then we just seen. You know how it is.
It's like a car. Once you get one or once
your friend has one. Everywhere you go you see this
particular brand, this making model.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That's how it is.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So then all of a sudden we just see each
other here and there in the third and she always
is just so cool and so real. She's not the
type of person. It's some of these folks that you know,
these uh and I want to say entertainment because she
is an entertainment movies and all of that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So she's an entertainment.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So I'm gonna say these entertainers that you can meet
and you're like hey, and they like how you doing.
I have to say I'm very, very very very privileged
in that it doesn't happen to me often, even whether
people know me or not generally, And I think I
kind of like do the same thing on the street. Right,
(06:08):
A lot of people are like, oh, you know, you
shouldn't get out your car in this place or that
place because look at those guys or look at those people.
But when I approach people, just because we work in communities,
I know how to have a voice and a tone
that just makes people feel like, Okay, she cool.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
She gets me.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So I jump out the car and I'm in the
hood and I want to go to the store and
get me some skittles or something water, whatever it is.
And I see a bunch of guys in front of
the store. I don't act afraid, first of all, and
second of all, I just honor them, like, what's up, guys,
how y'all doing? It's good to see you, and you know,
usually the response is like, what's up?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Sists? How you doing? You know? Cool?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So the same thing with how I try to operate
in any space is that when I see people, I
try to give them reverence, respect. It ain't about me.
I don't need you to be like, hey, I'm hi,
how you doing. I'm willing to speak first. So every
time I see her, it's mad love, mad love, mad love.
And she said to me one day. You know, you
got a book coming out, you're doing different things. Let
(07:07):
me know how I.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Can be supportive.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And sure enough I was able to get on her
show now, you know, and she's not she.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Doesn't have anything.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I don't even I think she just told her producers,
who happened to be amazing black woman on this set, amazing,
all kinds of people, all different types of people. They
were amazing on the set, Patrick, or just a bunch
of people just amazing. So I'm not saying I'm not
putting this on them, but you know how hard it
is for me, especially me, to be able to get
(07:39):
in some of those mainstream spaces because you have some
of the people on the teams like, oh, she's this
or she's that too controversial, to this, to that and
the third. And so I just expected and understood that
when I was telling her, like, hey, I would love
to come on this show, if she would have said
I've not been I can't get it done, which I
(08:00):
have been told that by other black people on other shows.
By the way, I'm sorry, I really would love to
have you on. You know, I was on Tammer Hall
too during my first book. But I've had a lot
of people say I want to do it, but you
know the story, you know what I've heard. You know,
I wish I tried, but in the meeting it turned
(08:22):
into this, that and the third. So I don't know
if she had to deal with anything. I don't know
if she had to speak up for me. I have
no idea. She never made it a thing any of that.
She just was like, I want to have you on,
and the next thing, you know, I was on and
I was expecting my son to get the call from
between when she told me that I was going to
be on, which was weeks before, I was expecting that
(08:44):
she would text me and say, Sis, can we talk?
Cause I get that all the time, and I already
know what it is. You know, whenever I'm supposed to
work on a project with the celebrity or you know,
in some type of space like that and they text me,
can we talk? Know that they're either trying to get
there talking points to go back and fight, or they're
(09:04):
getting ready to tell me that. Unfortunately, these folks are
saying whatever whatever and let me support you in a
different way. So that didn't happen. It was a great conversation.
She's a beautiful person. The energy in the space was amazing.
The black women that's showing up for Sherry Shepherd is
also extremely powerful. Just beautiful to see all those black folks,
(09:28):
men and women. So it was just a really really
good vibe.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Dope, you know, it looked very amazing. Like you said,
everybody there was Dope. I was happening to be there
to support you, and you know she was.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Not to support me on you on.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You are on the payroad for the tour, so let's
get that anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's your job. And what I told you about the.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Job, do your job because we have got to do
your job.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You've got to get paid, So you got to your job.
You know. It was it was just an amazing energy.
And like you said, it's a lot of people that don't.
It's a lot of people that say, oh, we're gonna
do this and yeah, you can come on the show,
and then it's and but I respect the people that
say I can't because that's just the reality. Look, I'm
at the boss here, you know, I work for some
people and they said this. But the people that pissed
(10:19):
me off is the ones that said they gonna do
it and then they don't respond your your cyst and bro,
we got you, we got you, like I don't, I
don't even, I don't even energy. No, it's not even
a fight. It's just for me. It's like, why should
I have to fight because you volunteered something and we're
still in this issue because it's people. It's just it's
(10:42):
so much fake ship in this industry, and you know,
and you just I've grown past the calling out and
feeling a way because I know these be the same
people that you'll hug tomorrow, that see you and be like,
oh yo, yeah, you call me tomorrow. It's the same
shit you see them, and it's the industry. Hug the industry.
You just hit me up, we're gonna do this. And
then you call them, they never answer what they respond
(11:04):
once and then you see him again they act like
they never told you. They told you last time, and
you just keep playing this game. And before it would
pissed me off.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Before I remember, because you used to pull people like
you can't me.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
But now I realized that you know, you know that,
I know that you bullshit and I know you know,
so I don't have to do because you you gotta
deal with that. I don't even I don't take it
on myself no more because that's the world we live
in this industry. But it's good to see that there
are still people still a genuine and authentic and you know,
it was a dope interview. The energy was dope. You know,
(11:36):
it was fun. It wasn't you know. It dived into
the book, but it had some fun things she showed
you social media. It was it just was a dope.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And you know what, I think that my appearance on
Sherry Shepherd's show showed. It gave people the ability to
see the other sides of me because I have been
boxed into what I have present. I'm not trying to
say that people should just out of the head imagine
(12:05):
something other than what they continuously see that you.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Promote about yourself.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And what I have been very comfortable as and what
I am until the death of me is an activist,
an organizer, a strategist in the movement. I am absolutely
that I am a protester. That's what I am. But
I just want folks to be able to see that
there is a human side to people that is not
just in front of a bullhorn, microphone camera. You know,
(12:33):
just being the angry black woman all the time, although
I'm angry as shit, and I don't let nobody take
that from me however, however, or try to weaponize that,
because we should be angry about everything that is happening
in our society. But I will say that I also
have other things about me, and I am evolving as
(12:55):
a person. My forty four year old self is very
much different than what people met in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one. I have a whole new thing going
on that I can feel rising up in me, and
so I think the interview gave an opportunity for people
to see those things, and it made people mad because
(13:15):
I've already received a few dms from people I know
and don't know, like those bikini pictures, like you're letting
people diminish your brand.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I love when they get mad about the bikini is why.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Would it diminish your brand?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean people are weird because they you know what
it is people have in their mind what your brain
is to them, So that means it's to you what
you think it is exactly. No, my brain is not
like when I say I'm gangsters woke. It's for people.
Oh you can't No, I can be. You can't be.
You don't get to tell me. Look, if I'm outside
and you approach me in a way, I'm gonna handle
(13:50):
it that way. When it comes to being woke, I'm
gonna speak on behalf of my people. I'm going to
merge both parts of me to create who I am, right,
And I don't have to make you feel comfortable. Yeah,
I don't have to make you feel comfortable about who
I am and that's okay. And you don't have to
like that part of me. You can be like you
know what, they can be like Yo, you know what?
To me, I don't really want to see you in
(14:11):
the babies don't look right. Go to like you said,
go to until freedom page. You're gonna see all of
the business and all. But on this page, I might
have on a babing suit, I might do this, I
might do whatever I want on my personal page, because
this is my personal life. And people gotta understand that
the Internet makes people. And we love you as fans.
(14:31):
We want you to love us for what you love
us for. Right. If you just like my wraps, my
YouTube page is full of raps, going in and watch
my raps. If you don't like my political stance, don't
come to my Instagram. Right, It's not gonna work for
you because I'm gonna speak on what I think. So
take the part of me that you like and enjoy it.
Take it with you, but don't put the rest of
(14:53):
the shit on me, because the other part you don't like,
that's me. It's still me, and I'm not gonna change
it to make you happy.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
So it is, it is what it is, Yes, but
I am very grateful for that opportunity. And more over,
and this is my thought of the day, I am
grateful for the way that people are showing up on
this tour now. I know in season four we talked
about this as well, because the tour just began and
(15:22):
there was so many incredible people coming out, and I
said that I was just, you know, very very grateful.
But I really want to kind of come at it
from a different perspective today, because yes, people are showing up.
And when I say showing up, it is amazing to me.
It's beyond what I could have imagined. I knew that
(15:42):
I wanted, which is why I have funded my entire
tour myself, and I knew that I wanted a And
by the way, funding my tour doesn't mean people haven't
had to purchase tickets depending on the venues or whatever.
But in terms of how I got there, the travel
for the most part, ninety percent of the time, I've
(16:03):
covered it myself. I've covered the team, different individuals who've
either had to travel with me or handling different aspects
of it. I've purchased books myself to give away here
to give to different people. I have done as much
as I can because I understand that the investment from
you for you is going to be more significant. You're
(16:25):
going to get more of a return from the investment
that you put into yourself. My publishing team amazing, amazing, amazing.
They have gone above and beyond to support me. But
there are still limitations with a company that's working with
a million authors. So if you really really want to
see a product that is like a product that represents
(16:49):
you in exactly what you want and your capabilities and
your brand, you have to invest in it, right. And
I know that's hard for people to hear because it's like, damn,
I already struggled for you to hear what.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You mean, because I had to, damn it. I'm not
about this book, but just in general, I tell you
believe in certain things. You're be like, wow, I don't
know if people are going to come and I don't know. No,
you have, you have it, you have.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That particular part is different.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What I'm saying is I always believe in investing in
myself because no matter what we've done on this podcast,
to my other businesses, to UH until Freedom, to the
Justice League, and anything that we've been involved in, I
have always put my credit card up with everybody else's.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Let me let me I guess what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Is but I think you're speaking to the first part
of what I was saying, which is the way that
people are showing up is beyond my imagination and.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I told you that it shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But but well, it's it's that people are. If you
know some of the events that I have been a
part of the group of people who are having it right.
The host let's just say they're charging one hundred and
ten dollars for a ticket because they're feeding people, giving
(18:15):
you a drink ticket, giving you a book that's signed
by me, and of course they got to pay for
a venue, so they have all that going on. Sure,
I get there on my own in most situations. Few
times other people have paid for me to come, But
for the most part I don't even ask. I let
them offer, or if not, if it's something I want
to do, I'm on my way because I understand that
(18:37):
having events for somebody, and this is my book, this
ain't they booked like you know what I'm saying, it's
a lot. It's if venues are not cheap, dinner, drinks,
whatever you have, it's not cheap. So for somebody to
go in their pocket in this day and age, with
all the expenses, the eggs too high, to bread to
how to gas too high, the daycare, distress of what's
(18:58):
going on on the tea, the world is a mess
for them to go in there pocket and say I'm
gonna spend one hundred and ten dollars on this event
so I could go and be a part of something
for Temiega Mallory. And it's not just one, but in
most places, one hundred, one hundred and fifty two hundred,
three hundred people just this past weekend, and there have
(19:19):
been some situations where it's even more folks than that
showing up to celebrate and or just to be in
community with me and other people. That is amazing. It's
amazing to me. Amazing to get back to.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
My Twitter of the day.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
The thing that has been eye opening to me is
the creativity and the genius and the entrepreneurial spirit of
folks all over this country, everywhere that I've been. You
think I have a book, people have six books that
they have written on education, on health, kid on serious issues,
(20:02):
or novels or you know, the Coldest Winter Ever sequel. Right,
people in there, they're in their literary bag.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They're in their author bag. People with all these books.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I have so many books that come back with me
in my suitcase. Sometimes I have to have them ship
because twenty people in a room have a book that
they're giving me. Also products, right, make a lipstick, you
know anything, hair care products, stuff they're making at home
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wanting you to test. Now, y'all can stop giving me
stuff that you're making at home that you want me
to test that doesn't have a seal and a label
and all that, because I'm telling you right now, I'm
not gonna I'm not going to test it, and I'm
not gonna eat the cookie or the whatever you bringing
me that you made in your house. I'm just not
gonna do it. You know, I'm just being honest, so
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you don't even bother.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And by the way, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Even want I really don't don't even want anything when
i'm you know, most of the time, I'm like, let
me just maybe have a glass of wine, maybe a plate.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't want anything.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That has to do with that because I unfortunately I've
never met you before, you don't really know me. I
don't know where this stuff is coming from. I don't
know what it's gonna do to my skin, and I
wouldn't bring it to you and expect you to use
something that you whipped up in the kitchen and people
be in my ear like I did this in the
kitchen this and that.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I really really understand, but I'm personally not going to
put it on my body.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's just my truth. Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Nonetheless, the jackets, the Duffel bags. The one lady in
Buffalo gave me a gen Duffel bag with my name
on it. All kinds black folks are making everything that
we need. Everything so even the stuff that's being whipped
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up in the kitchen, it's going somewhere. It's going from
tests to tube. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna
make it there because the products this stuff is like
really good.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And I feel like and I love what they're doing
on Easter.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Pastor Bryant, Jamaal Bryant and other passes around the country
are opening up their churches as vendor spaces so that
people who are even in target maybe not in target,
Black vendors in general, will have the opportunity to be showcased.
And I just feel like a lot more of our
attention has to be spent in that particular way and
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that area of uplifting these people who don't have platforms,
but they are out here with the thing that you want.
You don't I have stuff where I don't need the
jacket from such and such downtown in whatever whoever makes
the jackets, like, I don't need that jacket because the
black people making biker jackets.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
So anyway, that's what I think.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I think a lot more of our attention has to
be on uplifting these folks who are our genius is
in their own way and making sure that the rest
of the world gets to see it. And the thing
about social media is that the algorithm is only going
to allow us to promote so much of a thing,
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So only what ten percent?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I think.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
What's our brothers Isaac Hayes would say it's even less
than ten percent of your following is seeing your content,
the products and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I think we have to be a lot more intentional, right,
I think we have to create an algorithm because the
algorithm is there, right, and I think consistency, that's what
I realized about algorithm. Right. We say that the algorithm
grabs this. The algorithm grabs this because it sees that
there's a need for it, and especially on your page,
like certain things on your page, they figure out that
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certain people come to your page for certain things. So
when you know what your algorithm is, because when you
put out these certain things, you get a bunch of comments,
you get a bunch of lives, because that is the
bucket they've put you. Right in order for you to
break out of that bucket, you gotta get start giving
them something consistent outside of that, and so it can
break into a different algorithm. So it's a process to
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do it, but you have to be intentional. And since
I think that you that's a great idea because I
know during you know, during the pandemic and during when
we did a lot of just promoting all black people stuff,
you know, after that boycott a Nike and I started
promoting black you know, brands, the algorithm picked up. They
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really was picking up on it because it became something
that I was, you know, focused on, and then people
will come to tune in for it. So I think
we I think we have an algorithm for it. I
think we should really start being I think you have
it too, because you can. Yeah, I think, well, I
know I have an algorithm for I know every.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Time that you can have an algorithm.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You have, the algorithm picks up on my page for
certain things.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I think you have an audience for the audience algorithm
for Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's all inside the audience. Your audience is part of
your algorithm. That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
When your audience what the algorithm is like, it's kind
of like the popularity of your content.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I don't know, I don't know what anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It is pretty much your fan base, right, what your
fan base reacts to that's your algorithm. Right, So when
you when you put certain things on your page, you know,
when you talk about social justice things, when you talk
about certain things, you get a immediately people grab on it.
You get the people to promoted, you get websites, they
because that's what they want to see. Because they immediately
(25:43):
see a lot of the other stuff that you put
on there, they don't even see it because you can
tell by the amount of views that you have. It's like,
why is it I not this is good content, but
it hasn't fit into your algorithm because it doesn't fit
into what your audience normally said. So the computer doesn't
send it out with the same vigor that it does.
So that's what the algorithm does. The computer identifies the
(26:06):
content you have and realize, oh, this is the content
that people know how for, so they make sure that
all of your followers see it. Yeah, but when you
don't have that and you still putting new stuff up,
the views get very low. So we gotta just build it.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Of interesting information because you know, I don't really pay
attention that much and I don't really know how it operates.
I just post stuff and keep it moving. But there
is obviously a science to it. So let's get into
our t M. I the too much. You're doing too.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Much, too much, getting done too much.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Too much. So everybody's up and not everybody. Let me
stop saying everybody, because there's a lot of people who
are not up in arms about it at all.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But there is a.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Conversation about Marvin sat that is a re surface video,
so it's not something that happened recently that someone put out.
Where he is at a conference, uh. And he tells people,
which is a it's a church conference, which is mostly
where he is all the time, and he tells the
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trustees and security, lock the doors, don't let anybody out.
I'm raising money. I need to raise forty thousand dollars
in here. And he starts to tell people how he
wants it raised. You know, he wants it twenty five dollars,
twenty dollars, twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I think was some was it?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Was the baseline? I think that was the baseline. I
could be wrong. Yeah, so Janisi is twenty dollars, right,
it was the baseline. And so again he's at a conference, right,
and so he starts asking for this, and I guess
they've calculated it's exceed If it's packed, then you could
get to your amount by this. And so people are like, oh,
you know, he's telling he's locking people in, which is
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kind of like holding people hostage. You know, it's like
kind of like quasi kidnapping. And there you know, that's
from the comments what I see. And one of the
questions that was asked is like, where's the line between.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Stewardship and showmanship?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I think for a lot of people when they say showmanship,
I think I'm just getting in other people's heads and
honoring their thoughts that when you say showmanship, what you're
really kind of saying is that it's so much pomp
and circumstance, and then you got to raise all this
money and you want to you know, to be on
the stage, lock the doors and talking whatever. And people
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see it as performative even though and they say our
work is performative too.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
This is a normal a word.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
No, So folks feel like, you know, he's wrong because
he is locking people in and essentially forcing them to
come up with X amount of dollars at this faith
based conference. So the question then becomes, I have an opinion.
(29:06):
I always have an opinion, and for tem I we
might not always have our own opinions, but I do
have an opinion. But I do I would put it
out there to the world, do you know. Never mind,
we're not up to the question yet. Right now, I
just want to hear what you think about it. We
actually never really talked about this.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
And I think for me, it's like anything, what did
the church say, the people in the church? Did the
people did somebody come forward that was at the conference,
that was in the church that felt defended that? Have
we heard that?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well, the video came from somebody in the church at
the event.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I mean, just showing the video doesn't mean that you're offended.
You might just.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
There's been no outcry from the attendees to say, oh
my god, we feel so you know, harmed by this.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And I think that's telling, right. I think in any situation,
like when you talk about people like that, there's always
been this conversation about the past. Is you know in
a collection played? And why do you need a collection plate?
And I say to myself, if you don't go to
that church, then you wouldn't understand if you not donating,
if you're not putting your money in that collection plate,
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then you shouldn't have an issue what goes in that
collection plate. It's always outside people that have an issue
about people giving him money, grown adult people who said,
you know what, I would like to put my money
in this collection plate because I believe in this church,
I believe in that past. I believe they're going to
do something good with my money, and I'm okay with that.
(30:41):
These are grown people making decisions. So for me, I
think that every time, it's always the backlash coming from
people that have nothing to do with the situation. Right,
So if the people who were in the church right,
who were in this conference came forward and felt like
what he was doing was wrong, if his congregation was
saying that he was going about something wrong, that I
would understand that. Then there would be a conversation. But
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the fact that you just somebody looking on and you you,
first of all, you're not even familiar with the culture
of that church, with that preacher, with the culture of
that congregation, or that that you know, that convention, you
don't you're not familiar with what goes on in that
So you're making an assessment and the decision based on
something you know. It's like it's like a relationship. It's
like seeing being mad at the way two people deal
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with their relationship, and they not mad at it.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
But if you see a man being a woman.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Being a woman is different. If a man tell us woman,
you'll go get me some food and she started laughing.
I like when you might like, she might like the
way he tell her to gets it might be role
playing for them. You're paying attention to people's business and
you've made an assessment that is wrong because it's not
for you. That's why you ain't in that relationship. That's
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why you wasn't at that conference. That's why you don't
go to that man's church. You go to the preacher
the church that says, hey, if you have a couple
of hours, can you please give it to I've been
to churches.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
That they don't send her.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
They don't say but that also been to churches and
not even church. I've been to mars where they say, listen,
we need to raise one hundred thousand dollars, and we
know a few of y'all got about five thousand dollars,
got good suits on. You know what I'm saying. Don't
don't leave too fast. I know you got a good
suit on and we know we can get two or
three of y'all to put five thousand dollars because we
need to make and you know what happens, and people
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come out there in pockets or they don't, and then
and if people are happy and they come back, every
in the church is full. The monster is still full.
So what I'm trying to say is people always want
to have an opinion about somebody else's situation. If you're
not a church person, if you don't go to that
type of church, if you're not into that type of church,
then find but trying to say that it's wrong because
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it's something not something that you would do. It's not illegal,
it's not crime. Nobody's robbed anybody, nobody's filed these charges.
You probably just need to go to a church that
fits you. That preacher in that situation is just not
for you. That's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Well, I mean, I well, here's my opinion. I'm not
even gonna get into a long drawn out thing. The
bottom line is that I've been going to church since
I was a little girl. And not only have I
been in church since I was a little girl, I've
also been in uh in organizations, civil rights organizations. Since
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I was a little child, and as young as five
years old, my mother used to roll up whatever the
money that I'm supposed to you know, that is my portion.
She taught me about tithing and stewardship from a young age.
From five years old, I had my own envelopes, my
own number stick, my little five dollars in there. I
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used to save it all week so by the end
of the week, you know, fifty cent, twenty five.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Cent or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Then she would put whatever else so that five dollars
would be in my envelope. And I can remember multiple
times being in church or being at a rally, or
in some situation where the pastor will say, nobody move
while I'm raising money, or the speaker, nobody moves while
I'm raising money. Matter fact, close the door. Nobody might
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want nobody moving for two reasons. The first reason is
just on a lighter side. You know, it's like, nah,
we're gonna get this money in here today, so ain't
nobody getting Now is not the time you done have
your holy spirit, You done sang songs and did all
the things you feel me up floor, and now when
it's time to get the collection played going you finna
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slide on out, slip tiptoe with the one finger in
the air. So that's on a lighter note, but on
the serious side, when people start moving all around and
money is being collected and you don't know what's going on,
and pastors, just like everybody else, have the right to say,
hold up, I want to.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
See where the moving pieces are.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
While I'm up here vulnerable, either collecting money or not.
I know some past SAIDs that are even concerned about
people running around and moving too much in the church
in the spirit.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Because the door you might really need.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So with that being said, with that being said, and
holding that on one side, that this is regular, this
is this culture.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
And to your point, to your point, the reason.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Why there are not one hundred, two hundred people even
fifteen people that were in the room that day saying
that was in the facility that day saying oh, I'm
so offended and upset about it, is because most people
that go to churches, especially at the level of Marvin Sap,
Marvin Sap is not the preacher from the corner of
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your community. And I'm not saying that he ain't because
he raised money too. The corner preacher raised money too. Okay,
so let's just get that. But Marvin sap is on
a totally different level. When you go to his church,
it's a it's a bigger space, there's more expenses. The
real question is not how he said it and whether
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or not to me, some other people will say, no,
it does matter to me how he said it.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Cool, that's that's you. But it doesn't that that's not
I'm not caught up in that. What I want to
know is what are.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
The services that the church provides from from Sunday to Saturday.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That's what I want to know. I want to know
after church is over, what do they do?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Because I know for a fact, not because of what
I think, not because of what somebody told me. But
I know for a fact that Marvin Sapps specifically and
his congregation are very very community oriented. I know for
a fact that they feed people. I know for a
fact that they're invested in housing, that they do community activities,
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that they are giving out scholarships, that their work, they're
holding up young people. Now, I can see if all
you see is the past to just rolling up, get
the money, and then the church does nothing in the
community cool, you need to raise that. As members of
the church, you need to raise that. But I know
the type of pastor he is because I know his friends.
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I know where he comes from. I know that Jamal
Brian is one of his friends. I know that Rudy McKissick,
who is one of my best friends, is one of
his friends. I know who he's around and the people
that are he's around. They have ministries that are deeply
invested in community. So if somebody can show me where
the money that's being raised is going towards vacation for
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not just him, before the staff and everybody to go
on Monday until Friday, they go to the beach and
then they come back on Saturday and they act like
they just back for preparation for church, then I can
tell me that. But if what you're telling me is
you didn't like the way he said it, and yet
the work that's being done is something that you do
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like I'm not acting.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So that's how I feel about it. I think, y'all,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I don't think Marvin Sapp is the one that was
doing too much in this situation.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I think the critics are doing.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
They always in the comments that might be a segment
we need to do in the comments. In the comments, let.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Us go to the next thing because Janice is gonna
kill us. So our next topic today is hilarious to me.
I mean, just knocked down on the floor.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Just swipe, just.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Screaming, hollering that you okay, I know how I'm gonna
say it.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I know you fucking lying that Elon Musk is out
of his rabbit ass. Mine.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
This man is doing an interview. You posted this. He's
doing this interview here where he is saying, I can't
believe that people are watching my think he said, Bernie
saying Tim Walls. He said, he said that Tim Walls,
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and it's a creep.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
He called him a creep. He said, what kind of creep?
You know? He's he's on stage and he's parading the
fall of chestless stocks, stock numbers.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Right, Okay, don't don't don't do Okay, he has disabilities.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I don't know if he has. He never said, I'm
just I'm just speaking to He said, you know, and
and he's parading, he's parading the stock for right, What
kind of creep does that? What kind of creep? Praise
and Happiness he's someone fall No one does that. No, no, no,
you know he's a creep. He's a creep, this guy.
So what I'm saying to myself, how could he be
a creep when you was on the stage.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I never saw this, I never saw.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I never saw the man had a soul. Somebody he
cutting the jobs and he was a government.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And like one of them conferences with all the white
people like this, but I didn't know he had He
was like this, like a chainsaw.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
It was a fake chainsaw, but they gave him the
chainsaw simulating that he.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Was going to simulating.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Symbolizing the same thing. I know what I'm talking about,
all the ole thing. But anyway, he was simulating like
he was cutting the prices, and he was cutting the jobs.
So you felt felt it was a creep, right, somebody
was a creep for talking about your stock prices. You're
the richest man in the world, and there was a
creep because they talk about how your stock prices had plummeted.
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But you was the good person for just cutting people's jobs,
every day jobs that worked their whole life and went
to school and and did everything they could to get
in these federal jobs and you cut their jobs, and
you made a joker. But yeah, we're cutting it all,
get rid of it. But you wasn't the creep though.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
But not only are you cutting jobs, you're calling people
parasites for needing social services. And meanwhile, you are an
American welfare and recipient because every single one of your
businesses you have needed American money. You have needed handouts
in order to save them because they were failing. You
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and Trump have literally robbed the system literally to if
we're going by your.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Stations, think about but just think about just you got
to really think about what they're telling you, right, what
Social Security is right, because the average person that works
every day, the tax money goes, they have the Social
Security like immediately they take it out of your check.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
And it goes to the and it goes and social
Security money does get used.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
So the Social Security money is every person in America
that most of the people that work, that money goes
into the pot to pay. So when you can't work,
to when you're too old, when you have disability, when
you've done all the work and you can now you
get the money that you delay away. So you're telling
people that delay their money away that they parasites, right,
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but oh no.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Well that's that's social security.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
But and now and he what, well, I can't say
he made a distinction, but I would imagine that what
he would say is that he's talking more so about
food stamps and uh checks and what I'm saying, I know, no,
I'm not saying he hasn't attacked social security. And yes
there's some specific things there, but I'm saying, well, he
made the parasite comment. I just want to give credit,
(42:36):
like not credit, but I just want to be careful
to make.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Sure well, he said that people who take social security, Oh.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I didn't because I know what I was going to
try to do is and what by the way, I'm
not trying to say that. I'm not trying to make
it better, y'all. Wasn't trying to make it better. What
I was trying to do is say, let's go with
your theory. Let's not even talk about social security. Let's
just go with what welfare and what's the other thing,
welfare and food stamps?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Right, let's just go with that.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
What I'm trying to say is that you were able
to come to this country to build your businesses and
when they failed, you turned to government assistance to get
you some money to help save your businesses. If that's
if that, I don't and by the way, and by
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the way, that's government assistance. And by the way, I'm
not saying that you're a parasite. Right, well, I'm saying
it now. I'm saying it now. Now I'm saying and
that's the same. So now I'm now are with you,
Now I'm with you that they're exactly you're a worse
parasite than some of the little parasites that's getting three
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hundred dollars a month for food stamps.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
So we're talking about real parasites here.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
You a piranha. Okay, you're the piranha for sure. So
but what I'm saying is that since you want to
label people, can't why you didn't sit on the TV
and just say, you know what, it's fair game, you
know cool, If that's what Tim Walls want to do,
that's fine. You know why, because you are not just
a You're not just a narcissist. You're a diabolical, dangerous
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individual that you want people to feel sorry for you.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Not only but no, not only that, I ain't mean
to cut you off. But the man said, one of
the biggest faults in America is empathy. He said, that's
one of the biggest flaws that America has, is that
we have empathy. Just think about the mind state of
a person that says empathy is a flaw. So now
you telling them, You just said it, told the whole
world that America's flaws is empathy. But you want people
(44:44):
to be empathetic that you lost your billion dollars and
you got more money than anybody in the world. You
want people to be empathetic that your stock is for.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
You know what I mean? You know what I think
is so funny. I can imagine that any half.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Of an adult that works around these people, any half
of an adult, right, Like, let's just say Milania is
half of an adult, because she don't be wanting to
be around with them. She don't even be wanting fool
with them jokers. But let's just say she's half of
an adult. And she watches out the window of the
White House, maybe if she's there or on the news
(45:21):
while she's in New York at home with her son,
who she says, I have to stay with my son
because he's in college and I need to be there,
which fine, says, do your thing. But if she sees
them with a tesla on the lawn, like on the whatever,
the pavement of the White House with these two big
(45:42):
dummies Donald Trump and standing there.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Was terrible. Trump was telling you weeks ago. It's terrible.
I don't even know why. Why would anybody buy now?
I love my tesla.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Kilon Musk is standing there like, yeah, help me, help me,
help me. They're messing with my money, help me, help me.
And Donald Trump is like trying to sell it. I
can imagine that this lady is just like this is
so embarrassing. It is very embassing.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I mean when you have any level of sanity.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Because we don't know her family, right, we don't know
her family, so for all we know, she's got family
members that's calling her saying now.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Girl, because you know she kind of brown slightly a
little a little a little little bit of something that's
in there. We did I need to do a little research.
She probably got somebody that's like, girl, what in the world.
It's a ship It's a ship show.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
The ship show. And speaking of a ship show, that
brings me to my idom. Meet now this video has
been serviced. You sent me this video, and I'm like,
why would you send me this?
Speaker 3 (46:56):
I sent it to you for a very specific reason,
but I'll wait until you finished.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I'm sitting there and I just see like a little
video and just tunes to this man. He happens to
be a Caucasian white man, Caucasian white and all of
a sudden, you just see like this little sprinkle coming
from between and he's sitting on a plane. And the
man is literally sitting on a plane peeing, like peeing
(47:25):
in the seat, not in the bathroom, in the seat, Like, well,
I'm so confused now. It looks like it might be
something wrong with his prostate too, because he don't.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Really have what are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
It's like it's like the little bit of p might
be peeing.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
On his balls, but maybe it was something else. Maybe
he because we don't see his actual peepee.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, you don't get to see that. The fact that
it was a it wasn't. This man was peeing on plane.
He was peeing. And if this was me, I would
have threw water on him. I would have screamed everything, Yeah,
what you're doing? He nasty mother. If I'd have called
him out like that, Literally, you have to get off
the plane, like it's no way that you that lazy
(48:10):
or anything that you're sitting there peeing on a plane.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
But you what's going on?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I just don't understand the mind state of a man
that's sitting on a plane. And the thing is somebody
is taping you. They across from you. He never looked
to the side one time to see if anybody else
was looking at him. He's literally just sitting there like this,
peeing like it's the weirdest shit.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
But there is something, there's something about what's y'all don't
get it.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
I don't get the man peeing on a plane. But
what do you mean? But I don't get it? Do
you get him being on a plane?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah? Because you know what, there's some freaks out here.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
It's people that they do exposing themselves. They are people
who he might be one of those people that has
a mixture of exposure.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
He wants to be what's call when.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
You expose yourself, it's called being a exhibitionist. Right, But no,
but listen, he might be an exhibitionist and he likes
to pee on people all in one thing like he
probably is some weird ass freak. But you know what
I don't get. This is what I don't get.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I expect.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Let me tell you what I expect. Let me tell
you what I expect.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Me expect.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
No, No, I'm not even I think the person who
recorded is important because it helps supprove my point.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
I get it all.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
What I don't get is how anybody would take themselves
on the plane.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
And sit in the seat and use the screen.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
The the what you call the thing, the lights, and
the air conditioning, and put the seatbelt on and touch
the buttons on the side when you have no way
of knowing if the person before you was pissing on
the plane. I clean everything that I can. I'm not
saying that. I'm not saying that I am cleaning it
(50:08):
to the point where I'm not getting I'm not touching
any germs.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
But I tell you what I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
I'm definitely not putting my head the back of my
hair on a headboard or the yeah, the headboard, it's
not the headboard, but the head rest, the head rest
of the plane, knowing that your dan drift, your sweat,
your whatever is going into my head. And then I'm
gonna take my head and put it in my in
my in my hat, in my.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Head, scar in my bed. Are you crazy?
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Nah, I'm wiping that down. If I have time and
I get on the plane early enough, I wipe the
seat from the top.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Down.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
I pull the flaps, you know how to the flaps
be back like this, I pull them and clean them.
Because one time I happen to be talking to a
friend who was I was in comfort, the first row
of comfort, and my friend was in first class, and
I leaned up.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
To say, hey, girl, you know, good to see you know,
you're just talking somebody.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
You happen to bump into them on a plane, and
I happened to look my head and saw that I
guess they was eating food or whatever. They must have
grabbed like this, and it was like ketch up and something.
It was so filthy, and I'm like, I told her,
don't move. Another thing that happened to me one day
I was on the plane and this man was sitting.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Right across and he.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Was cleaning his nose and doing and he hawked into
the tissue. And when the flight attendant came by, she
took all the people's stuff, which she should have had
her gloves on, but she didn't, and this man, knowing
what was in this tissue, gave it to her in
her hand. I got up and shot myself to the front,
(51:51):
to the little area, because how do I know she
gonna wash her hands in between making somebody's drink. That's
why I don't drink out there. Glass would like to
have a plastic cut. I mean, I don't play around.
I clean, and so I don't understand anybody that gets
on the plane without some wipes or something to say,
let me wipe this down before I sit my ass
(52:13):
down here and go to sleep and lay back and
do all.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Of this and touch the thing.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
And then I want to pick my own nose or
rub my face or scratch somewhere. And I'm gonna take
piss from a man with me and boogers and nastiness.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
So when you ask what boogers and nastiness?
Speaker 1 (52:34):
When you ask, when you say, what, you don't get?
Speaker 2 (52:37):
She said, boers and nastiness. Oh my god, you can't
make this up. And the funny part is, y'all think
she exaggerated, but she ain't even giving you the full story.
The lady gets on the plane and it be to
the point where they give her all of the whites.
Like she goes to the person, my own wife, you
(52:58):
have she got a bag for the wife, about three
hundred of them. But she still makes sure. She goes
to the flight attendant, say do you have wipes? And
they don't. They stop giving them out, you know, recently
some of them. And if they have them, they'll give
her the whole bag. And she she's like a kid
in the candy. So she lights up, her eyes light up.
She puts them in the bag. She goes to her
(53:19):
seat and she opens them up and she wipes. And
if I happen to be sitting next to her, she's like, no, no, no, no,
sit there, don't touch anything. What are you doing? Don't
touch it? And then she'll pass you the wipe. And
then if you don't do it good enough, she's like no, no, no,
no no. The button's there, no no, no no, and
she wipes it down, and do you be sitting there? Funny,
And she wipes the whole seat down. She wipes every button,
(53:43):
seat belt, she makes anything, and if you anything too much,
she'll be like, don't touch that. It is a full movie.
It is not And this is every flight. It's not
like once. This is every flight. She doesn't take no
days off.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yes I do, I say, am a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
I can be like because the night from the night before,
I feel like the germs they kind of they you know,
once that plane is parked for you know, however many hours,
eight hours or seven hours, and they wiped it down
a little bit. When I get on at six o'clock,
I'm like, I'm basically heading home to try to clean
myself up.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Anyways, so I'm gonna just go with it.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
But this this head thing, head rest, I cannot put
my hair.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Oh anyway, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
It's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
I am very serious about it.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
I just think cleanliness is next to godliness, as the
Muslim community says.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I agree. I agree. I mean, but you are godly
necks next to godiness because if you if cleanliness now,
because you it's above and beyond. Like it's above and beyond.
She wants me watch you with your phone and like,
did you did you wipe the phone down? Like wipe
your phone off? Like she does this to everybody. She'll
watch a stranger about to touch something and be like,
(55:11):
let me.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Just say this, I found my tribe. I found my
people because in the comments section where the man was
paying Janice, I wrote a comment and I said, I
cannot believe that people sit there and they don't clean
down area, and there is there are a bunch of
folks in there who are saying cuss words like I
don't give a shit, who don't like it? I clean everything.
(55:33):
They gotta wait for me to clean it down. I
said that what I'm talking about, get it, that's it.
Those my people in the comment section. Matter of fact,
I need to see who them people are so I
can send every single one of them my book.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
I live to tell the story. Okay, lord, there we go.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
You with that said brings us to the end of
another episode. So it definitely was a good start to
the new season. Season five.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yes, season five.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
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