Hosts Tamika D. Mallory, Mysonne the General, Dr. Jamila T. Davis, and Tara Wallace link up for an crossover of TMI and I Love Me More.
We’re talking real talk: gun violence as a public health crisis, breaking the chains of poverty through financial literacy, generational wealth building, starting businesses with $500, mentoring the youth, and uniting for community power.
With a room full of changemakers, students, and future millionaires, this episode drops gems on:
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Why healing is the new hustle
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How to flip your mindset (and your money)
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Why community collaboration is more powerful than competition
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Building networks that work for us
Whether you're a teen trying to level up, an organizer making change, or someone looking for inspiration to reinvest in yourself, this one’s for you. Let’s get to the bag the right way.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Tamika D. Mallory and it's.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Your boy my son in general.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
We are your host of t M I.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
New Name, New Energy.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So what's going on to mek A D. Malory? How
you feeling today?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Doing all right? At the Pull Up for Peace conference
in Atlantic City, New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, it's like, yes, you have a live ta lia.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
What's up y'all? This is your girl, doctor Jamelle T. Davis,
and this is Star Wallace and this is I Love
me More.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Hey, Hey, hey, how are you girl? It's been a weekend.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
I can only imagine I have to ask you what
are you doing to try to stay calm and balance
throughout all of this?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
How can you stay calm when you're doing a conference
that you never dreamed the thought that you could do before.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
So we live and direct at pull Up.
Speaker 7 (01:02):
For a Peace that is say do who did the
walk today?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
And hold up y'all. We got a live audience.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Let's give it a full love audience.
Speaker 7 (01:14):
That is so dope, so many young faces.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
That's right, So pull Up for Peace, y'all. It's all
about organizing and galvanizing people from all across the country.
And y'all see I lost my voice, right. So we've
been dancing, we've been talking, we've been healing, we've been praying.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
It's been everything here.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
And what's so dope about this particular conference is that
it's young people, it's old the people, it's everyone.
Speaker 7 (01:42):
It's everyone in one room.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I don't think I've seen that in a long time.
I wish I had been here for the entire thing
to just really absorb it.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
Are y'all having a good time? Are y'all learning stuff?
That's so dope.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I remember as a kid, we always had to be
in these rooms where we're learning, you know.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
The kids did their thing. We always had to be.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
In the room where the adults are leading and teaching
us things. So I think it's so dope, and I
don't think you guys should take that for granted.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
That's right. So pull up for peace, y'all. Is a movement.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a movement all across this nation to let people
know it's to put the guns down and put the
healing up. And what do we mean by healing? It
means to take care of our minds, our bodies, and
our souls and to really emerge into our greater self.
So today, y'all, we got something different. Not only do
we have our podcast I Love Me More, today we're
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doing a remix with tm I. So we got tm
I in the building and they doing they thing, and
we're gonna do our thing together.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
So guys, get ready for some fun.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We're definitely in Atlantic City for the Pull Up for
Peace conference, which has been nothing short of amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I never thought I would be at a conference like this,
Like I've been to so many different conferences, but when
you put these type of credible messages and you put
this type of energy in this type of love in
the building, it's just way different. So I just want
to shout all of the organizers of this amazing conference
out for doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
It has been really, really beautiful to see all of
us come together for something so impactful. I don't think
anyone or that we can depend on anyone to do
this type of work for us and for our communities.
And I often hear, you know, people, when we're talking
about the political dynamics of America. People will say, well,
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we have to just figure out ways to do for
our own, you know, and we know that right like,
because we understand that no matter who's in white in
the White House, the state House, the city house, or
any level of government, they're never going to be as
invested in our communities as we are on the ground.
And I think that this conference is an example of that,
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of us pulling ourselves together to figure out what are
the strategies, and more importantly, meeting people from across the country.
I was talking to a woman in the hallway yesterday
and I asked her, you know, what has been the
best part of this conference, and she said that I
get to meet other people who are doing what I'm doing,
who may be feeling the stress that I feel or
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you know, and it's not always stressed, because she made
sure to tell me it's not all bad days. But
it feels good to have other folks that I can say, Hey,
what about your experience in this area? She said, you know,
I've been sharing with so many people. I have new friends,
I have new collaborators, new thought partners, which is important.
And I thought that was it has to be exactly
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what this conference was designed to do, to bring people
together so that they can feel stronger and so that
they can feel like they have a network of other
people across the country who are striving for the same goals.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
We are the remedy Tamika.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I watched you guys help to organize Target boycott, and
we saw with our own eyes how quickly stocks plummeted. Right,
So with this conference, we see and know that if
we galvanize, stocks can go up. But it's our stocks.
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We must invest in us. And too often we are
divided because we're taught only one organization can shine, only
one queen could be in the building. But when we
come together, nothing is impossible. Nothing is and we need
each other's resources.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You might have one thing, but I got the other,
and you struggling waiting on your one thing.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
But if I got the other, we could put that
together and we could go. Chinese people come together, the Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
The Vietnamese people come together and get nails laws across
the country and all these things. Why not the violence,
the people that are stopping by community orgs? Why not
we come together while we waiting for the White House
to fund us. Now we need their resources, so we
want them, right, But if they say no.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I still want to be able to say, yes, yeah,
we can't stop just because you know, as people change
face in different positions, different positions of power. When they
change faces, then all of a sudden, our communities are
no longer able.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
To move forward Shample.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And that has never been our reality. We've always been
a resourceful people. And when you think about all these
young people who are here today, you know, I think
that's what we want to teach, right. We want you
all to be able to see that there are people
in our communities who actually care and we're coming together
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with solutions for the issues that you're dealing with and
not pointing fingers at other people. Yes, though, we are
are going to make sure that we advocate for ourselves
because the resources that we want from the government, the
resources that we demand from people who are in positions
of influence and power and corporations and all of that,
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that is our money. It is our money. It is
our tax dollars that we're asking. We're not begging anyone.
If you ever hear people say, oh, they're just looking
for a handout, no, we're looking for our tax dollars
to circulate back into our communities to address the concerns
like we're putting money in the government. When you pay
your taxes on your job. How many of you have
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a job. You have a job and you see little
taxes come out your check, right, and it kind of hurts,
doesn't it. It's like over here the grown people are like, yeah,
the young people might not really pay too close of attention,
but those little taxes, that's serious, right, Like you've given
somebody your money, So when you put your money out
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into the world.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
You want to see that.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Because the whole point of them collecting taxes is that
they're supposed to be taking care of.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
The needs of the people.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
But it seems that when it comes to the needs
of black folks and brown folks and underserved communities, we
are always the last ones to get back the resources
that we need. Our communities don't look like the communities
where the rich people live. And guess what, they don't
pay as much tax They don't pay as many taxes
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as we do.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Isn't that crazy? Oh no, because the system is designed
for them to win. So now this new system that
we're going to create is designed for us to win,
and it starts.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
With you, young people. I've dedicated my.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Life now to teaching financial literacy to teens. We gotta
start with y'all. Y'all gotta understand and know what credit is.
Y'all gotta understand and know what budgeting is. You gotta
understand how to use your money and make your money grow.
You cannot wait for a handout because the handout might
not be available to you, right, So you got to
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know how to make your money, make money. I want
to teach you god side hussuits. I want to teach
you guys how to flip money, how to take but
we ain't gonna do it like they do it on
the block. We ain't gonna buy that other stuff. We're
gonna learn how to buy merchandise, how to sell things,
how to sustain yourself when others won't sustain you.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
So I think that's really the.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Key, y'all, is to teach our people how to collect
and remember the susu back in the days, all that
kind of stuff our parents.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Used to do it.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Okay, y'all know you're shaking your head with the susu.
We gotta figure this thing out like so explain it
on the susu.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So the susu was we had everybody in the family
put a certain amount of money into a pot and
every week, so it's savings, so a saving and what
happened was one family member would get that pot every month, right,
so you as it built up, it just kept going
around as long as you put the money in. And
it was like sometimes you get like five ten thousand,
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and but you just keep putting your same amount of
money and it would grow. The more people that put
into it, it will grow. And this is how a
lot of us was able to survive with the suits.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So that was a big thing. We got to get
back to that.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
But that's literacy. Do you remember.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
That's so really good?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Like any end, what is what are the findings?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
If you put into it for so long.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
The findings is you're saving your money.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, is we spend Oftentimes we spend before we get
how many of y'all can admit. Sometimes you spend that
paycheck before that paycheck come. That's not good. So what
the SUSU does is helped you have a lump sum
so that it budgets you. It helps you the budget
and save and be able to really really get your
money together.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So it's really.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
These banks, these banks is taking your money. They doing
the same thing and they giving you like less than
one percent of your money. So they flipping your money.
You put money into the bank. That's that's what the
bank does. They take your money, they invest in stocks
and all these things, and they make billions and billions
of dollars and they give you like zero point one
percent of growth on your money. I'll be looking at
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the bank, I'll be like, you had this amount of
money and it's only like forty dollars in like two years.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Growing, Like what the hell is going on? It ain't
really nothing growing.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
If you're waiting on that, brother, you're gonna be waiting
for this real time exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So that's what I'm saying is sousu is at least
when you get that that lump summer money, you like,
oh I'm putting my money and I actually see some
level of return on it. So we got to get
back to financial literacy. And I think that's what I
love about this converse, like this, this conversation right here
is this is what we've been doing. We've been sharing.
Is nobody gay keeping. It's not somebody little means.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And big us.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's none of that it's us giving you our knowledge,
our wisdom, our our triumphs our fails and everything so
that you can learn from it and growth from.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
I also want to say something because you know, this
just reminds me of when I went to college, and
the first thing that you do when you go to
college is almost set up for failure, Like that first
week of college when you enter the dorm room business conference,
and that conference is set up for you to get
your first Discover card for you get your first credit card,
and it's so easy to get that, but there's not
one class on how to manage that card, how to
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use this card to build your credit.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
So by the time you get to that five hundred dollars,
you have.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
The first negative thing on your credit report, on top
of these student loans that you're taking out that you
think are going to take.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Care of themselves that don't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
So I think this is so important because it's financial
literacy is the tool that unless you're taking finance, there's
no where to talk about finances and how to manage that.
You think they're just going to make the money and
pay it off, and that's not how it works. Like
you're set up for failure, even in the institutions that
are that are designed for success.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know what, this is such a good conversation because
when you think about pull Up for Peace, you think
of a conference that is designed to bring together the
community that's working to curve violence in our communities. You
would believe that we're only going to talk about like
shooting and you know, different strategies to get guns off
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the street. But what we have to understand is that
violence is a public health crisis. And if violence is
a public health crisis, that means there has to be
a public health strategy for addressing violence. And in order
to do so, you have to look at the root
causes of an issue. Right, That's what public health does.
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Whenever something is considered to be a public health crisis,
there are people who study the public health issues that
lead to the crisis. And poverty is a number of issues.
It is a number one. How many of you think
that poverty is a number one issue for problems that
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you see in your community? For the young folks in
the back, are you listening to me, Yeah, there you go, poverty?
Speaker 5 (14:05):
What do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
What do you think? Do you think that poverty is
probably one of the biggest challenges in your community. We
would you say yeah, People are saying yes, absolutely, and.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I just want to jump in here.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So the goal is we have to break the thorns
of poverty, right, and poverty makes people desperate.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
People don't just want to commit crimes. Wow.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
People ain't just saying Hey, today I'm gonna go commit
a crime. People are saying today, I want to get
a lick. People are saying today, I want to survive.
So if you look at crime, crime is generally directly
related to a financial gain. So if I teach people
how to get to the back, chances are they're not
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going to get to the back the wrong way. And
for me to me, I went to jail for a
thirty million dollar bank for a case. Right, So I
learned early how to get to the bag, but I
was getting there the wrong way, and I didn't realize
when you get to the bag the wrong way, you're
throwing Brits at the penitentiary system. Okay, cause it's gonna
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come get you. It's all a paper trail, they all
waiting for you. But I learned when you do it
the right way, that's how you break the bonds and
pop and you take your time.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
So my parents did it.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
One of the ways to do it is through education.
We tell y'all to go to school, and y'all like, uhuh,
But let me explain to you. When you go to
school and you get a certain degree, there's a certain
bottom line level of money that they gotta pay you.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And we're not even saying, okay, just get the degree.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Get the information, because some of y'all entrepreneurs. If you
have the information, you're gonna be able to make more money.
Now to make that money, you gotta make that money grow.
So you need to know about real.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Estate and assets.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And then my parents came from nothing and they used
real estate to make them rich. They bought property after
property after another property. My father owns like maybe fifty
properties now.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
But the thing about your family that you know. A
couple of weeks ago, I needed something that Jamilla couldn't
get to me physically, so she left it in her
mom's office and I went to her mother's office to
go pick up my books, right And while I was
in there, the thing that I realized is not only
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because they have cornered the marketplace your family, and this
is you're thinking about two people, just regular folks just
like us. Yeah, regular people, regular people. And now still
at this point they're elderly and your mom is still
whatever her real estate to the company. So what they
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have done is not only do they own properties, they
sell properties. Right, your mom is like doing transactions selling
properties and renting to people while also buying properties. And
it gives you. It's like you have to They say
that a woman needs seven forms of incomes in order
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for her to be successful, to sustain herself. We need
seven forms. So imagine they are collecting rinks.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
That's a lot of income. Jesus.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I mean by how many jobs.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Do you do? How about ten jobs? Actually?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
But you gotta have it, so mice. That's why y'all.
We're giving y'all game right now.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
We want you to get it from now to know
that making money it's not difficult. People make it difficult
because we see I need twenty dollars. Then you got
to get away from the twenty dollars people. But you
need to get around the people who.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Talking about something. And I learned that too. Poverty.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
How you said it's a public health is you can
it's a disease and it's o agous. Let me tell you,
I love my folks, but I don't hang around broke folks.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Now broke folks.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Today saying you, if you hang around five people, you're
gonna be the six.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
So if you around people like a ta meek, a
mallory of so, because y'all keep me going now, I'm like,
all right, we're gonna go a little higher.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
We're gonna go.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
You gotta be around people doing things, and then it'll
show you that you could do it too. They're not
smarter than you, They not better than you, they're not
wiser than you.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
The difference between you and dumbest information.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well, it's not just information. It's not just information because
some of these people be dumb as hell and they
make a lot of money because they have discipline and
they and they are that's the epation.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
So the information is how to be successful.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
So Stephen Kobe right has the seven steps of being
an effectual successful person.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
But don't you see no information?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But don't you think you can have information if you
don't do anything with what you know.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
You're going biblical right. So faith without works.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
As void rightsibility because I can give you all the
tools that you need but if you're not going to
have that mind set and your stuff and believe you
your stuff to go apply it.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Then So let's talk about this real quick. Our people
perish because of lack of knowledge.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
So we're gonna take it to the word. So we
at the world. Let's go to the world.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Our people perish because of what even spiritual knowledge. Right,
we're working in spiritual warfare. Some of us have generational
curses on.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Us and all kinds of things.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Right, So if we lack the knowledge of how to
pray to break the spiritual curts, we're done.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
If we don't know how you can get money on
the phone, we got down. Kids are different than us.
We used to really have to do real work to
get money. I didn't know you can't can get on.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
The phone, do a shimmy shade, do a front of
our sell a shirt, and go get to the bag.
Our people perish because of what lack of knowledge. So
it's our to show people that it doesn't take a
lot to get money. We keep acting like, oh, you
got it, Nah, you can get.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
On TikTok shimmy shak.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
We can figure out the shimmy shak and we can
get a coin, So we have to figure out different
ways to get money, and we got to teach our
kids how to do it so that they know it's
not as difficult as they think.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
All right, Just no, I just want to add to that.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
She's been preaching all day.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
To day, lady.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I feel the spirit she been led today.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Nah No, I just want to say, you know in
that I you knows as young people, you know the
confidence level, right, It would be so amazing to see
the same confidence that I see young people when something
is bad or when it's time to fight or do
something crazy, but the lack of confidence when it's time
to step up and.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Learn information and apply that information.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
And I really want you guys, as we're sitting here
having this conversation, to look within and.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Find those tools, you.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Know, look within and understand that you are a beautiful person,
that you are an amazing person, that there's only one
person in this entire world like you, and apply that
to what we are saying, to what you identify with.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
We're not saying, you know, uh, there's one lane for you.
There are multiple lanes for everybody in this room. But
to have the.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Confidence to step into it and to know that You
guys are not in this room by chance, a happenstance,
but there's somebody who loves you right to bring you,
to take the time to bring you into this room,
into these rooms, and that not just take it for granted,
but to know that you are supposed to be here
because there's something great in you.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Baby, we might need to put up a chance.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I'm telling you, come on up.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You know you might be the wonder day because God
the Spirit is moving to Meka. First of all, I
love you. I might love you too, but to me,
I love you, and I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
You why I love you. I love you because.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
You have power, and with your power, you're willing to
lend that power to others. So I think one of
the call of actions is teaching not just our youth,
but our people are skilled. I want to share one
of the things we're doing in Birmingham and one of
the things we do in New York City. I make
sure that they give us discretion every funding to give
(22:23):
each of our kids five hundred dollars to start their
own businesses. Juneteenth, we had over one hundred teen entrepreneurs
vending at their city complex. Right we're going to Birmingham
with it. And now we do a program for gods
called Flipping the Game where we give them two thousand
dollars to start their own business. And people don't understand
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that resources and information is a game changer because one
of two things are going to happen. Even if my
kids don't pursue the career that we give them or
show them how to do, guess what happens. Their confidence
is boost they know what success looks like, they can
feel once you could feel it, baby, That's how the
battle because you got to have the faith to be
So if we speak light to them, we give them resources,
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we give them information, and.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
We charge our people to do the same.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
So one of the things I want us to do
through this podcast, through this platform, we know so many
people that get to the bag. First of all, Black
women right are the number one entrepreneurs in the country.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And one thing about black women, black women love who
that to meeke a dem allery?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Date who they love her?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Do black women love to make a dem allery? So
one of the things I want you to make a
pledge for us for pull up for because baby, I
have an ass That's another thing y'all gonna learn right.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
You have not because you what ah.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So I want you to learn how to ask people
for things because all they can tell you is no.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
And I don't think my sister's gonna say no. So
my ask for the.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Pull Up for Peace pledge is that you ask all
of those black women and all those incredible, amazing black
men that you guys know that are affluent, to come
into our community and teach a skill to our people
about how to get money.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I want people that are who are looking.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Like them, been where they've been, sleep where they slept,
who are successful to come drop gems.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
See that's the other thing we get kicked. We don't
want to give up the information.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
But if we create the community that cultivates the information
and we roll it.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Out to our people, that's how we break the bonds
apart it.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Come on, now, create the community so we not only
pull up for peace, we pull up for a piece
of the.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Power because it's our time. Come on now. I got
a little.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Preacher in me too. Now. But this is what it's about. Man.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Energy, Just give yourself around reports everybody in the end. Man,
because the energy for these last three days has just
been off the Chaine.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Hold on, we're gonna through the plans, y'all gonna do now?
I don't know, y'all. I don't want to commitment on
the carriage.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
No, no, I'm definitely down for that, definitely, no.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I just was I just I've been just praising this
this conference for the last three days, like just and
I just want to praise you, Jamila, because.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Praise God because he's using us.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I'm a best fool and he's using me. But I
know the people with the power. So that's why I
was so grateful for y'all to walk through the door,
because sometimes we don't even know how to use our power,
right we you know, we do what we do, but
I want you to use your power for the people
that are going through poverty, because mentors ship what we
do know and you not. I learned that in your book, baby,
you have some good mentor did y'all read Micky Demailoris
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I left.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
To tell a story.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That never if y'all ain't get that man, oh baby,
but to get that thing.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
And I learned you had some incredible mentors.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So success and the part of why I have such
important contributions in my life is because I understood since
I was a little girl, the importance of sitting with elders. Yeah,
my parents took me around elders all the time. And
it wasn't really they weren't doing it intentionally. It's just
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that they I was a kid who went wherever they went.
So I would go to rallies and other organized spaces,
and while being there, you know, the elders did not
just look over me. That's good, right, And that's something
that we have to so lindful of as older people
in the room. Sometimes we'll see a young person and
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kind of little kid them and not and it's aggravating
that they're even there. But they didn't do that to
me as a young kid. The elders would sit with me,
they would talk to me. Sometimes i'd get to the
rally on a Saturday morning. We had rallies every Saturday
that my parents took me to, and somebody would have
like books for me, kids books with ribbons on it,
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and they would give it to me and then they
asked me, what did you read the book? Because I
was one of maybe four kids that's always around, and
so they found ways to work with me and talk
to me.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
So I always had this thing.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
For elderly people, and.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Actually, you know, it was like a blessing from God
that I had the taste in my mouth or the
space in my heart to sit with the eighty year
old and just listen to them. Not everyone does that, right,
And in my book, when you talk about my memoir,
everywhere I've been on tour, people have asked me, what's
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the one thing that I want young people to take
away from this book? And you guys should get the book.
It's a really good book. And I'm not saying it
just because it's my book. It is a really good
book for development in your life and just to hear
the story of someone else who came from exactly where
you all are are coming from, right. And so my
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answer to the one thing I want kids to take
away is listen to your parents, right. And I know
that's like corny, like you know what I mean, listen
to your parents. People like, okay, you know, But what
I realized. What I realized is that every single thing
my mother told me everything, I mean, every single thing
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she said, eventually I found out that she was right.
She may not have known in the moment exactly what
she was talking about, but her wisdom was actually the
navigation tool for my life. And I bring that up
because these elders that I talked to, that I sit
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at the feet of, throughout my entire life, they have
helped me. And even if in the moment whatever they
was saying to me didn't make sense, there was some
place that I was out in the wild and this
out on the boardwalk, as they say, trying to figure
out my life, and the words that they told me
would come back to me. It does not mean that
my friends who look like me and the people who
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are sitting next to you are not important. But it
is the wisdom of people who've already gone passed you
that can help you. You don't make the same so
you don't make the same mistake all.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
The time, that we are cheat sheets to life. Yeah right,
because my son, my son didn't realize this till he
was twenty years old.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I never forget it.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Like I've been talking to him and you think you're
not listening. But if you're talk enough, if you talk enough,
they listen, you know. And that's what we gotta do.
We gotta we gotta understand as elders that our kids
are taking in information.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
We think they not listening. But I remember I woke.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I think it was like his twentieth birthday, and I
went to his Facebook, and on his Facebook he wrote,
I just now realized that my dad never told me
nothing wrong. Everything that he ever said to me was
one hundred percent correct. And we find that out. And
I found the same thing else. I remember I used
to tell my mother. I remember I had a girlfriend.
I'm marrying this girl. My mother said, you're not married.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I love her.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Mami together, I said, you're not gonna marry.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Just relax.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And then when we broke up, and then I said,
how you knew, she said, because I know because I'm
your mother, because I lived life and I've had that
same stage, in the same phase, and all the stuff
that you're thinking, I've already thought. I'm and you're a
product of me, So I know exactly what you're going through.
So just understand that we have levels of wisdom and
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things that prevent you from making the mistakes that we made.
Don't You don't have to do it when you're around
people who have wisdom and you have elders that pour
into you.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Please take that out.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And you know, I think this conversation is so important
because you can get money. Like you talked about, we
could teach you how to make money. I need you
mill to continue to teach me how to make money
because I am a service oriented person, so I give
more than I take right And that's changing now because
now I'm forty five years old. And so it was
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cute from whatever age to forty five, but now at
forty five, I'm beginning to think about the rest of
my life and what I will leave behind for my granddaughter,
who's my bestie, my broke three year old almost three
years old bestie. But she's not gonna be broke because
she's going to control and my life. All of my
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resources will be signed over to her at some point.
If my son was here, he'd be like, word, yeah, absolutely,
thank you for giving me my best friend, my sweetheart, Blair.
And so you can make money, because I've made lots
of money in my life, millions of dollars. But how
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you not only keep the money but value the money
and value what to do with the money comes from
your character and the other influences that you have around.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
You and financial literacy.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
So again information. Our people perish because of what. So
as we continue to cultivate this community, I know we
come into a close This is good stuff. We gotta
stay in touch, we gotta give back, we gotta do more.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Right.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Most of y'all young people. Where you're from? Atlantic City?
How many y'all from Atlantic City? Okay? I see a lot.
How many of y'all from New York City? Okay? Few?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
How many organizations? So we are representing a few organizations.
So one of the things I'm gonna do, I'm gonna
practice what I preach. All of y'all promise you this
book I Live to Tell a Story is amazing. I'm
gonna donate a copy to every single person because I
bought my copy.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Shall that's my sister buying right, Yes, So.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
We're gonna get y'all a copy of the book, and
we're gonna start talking to your cities about contributions.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I'm doing some.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Work in Atlantic City, so I'm gonna ask your mayor
about out our earn and learn program.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Let's give y'all. How many of y'all like to get
five hundred dollars to start your own business in here? Okay?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
You see them? Hans is out. My kids want that money.
So we're going through Marty. Marty's well, we're gonna talk
to you all right, so we're gonna figure out how
to create more programs like that SYS.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
We want y'all, y'all to come.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
In the community, you know Institute or Research for Social
Justice and Action that was created by myself and your
brother Angelo Pinto.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
We created the institute to be the church in action. Right.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
It's okay to go to a place and be filled
up or spiritual house, right, but some of us need
other things like information, resources, stuff that applies to the natural.
So we got the spiritual, then we got the practical.
So the Institute was created to give the people the practical.
How do I get money right now? How do I
level up right now? How do our professionalize right now?
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To take my idea, because many of us have dreams.
God talks to us through our hearts and our dreams.
But if we don't know how to make our dreams
of reality, then we stock right. The Institute gives some information,
So I'm looking for y'all to come on down and
to the Institute and give us all lot of information
and resources.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Y'all can love that.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
So you know, before we go, I just want to
say that, you know, it's about taking these little bits
and pieces of information right that build your life.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
It's not one mapped out it's not one mapped out.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Lane the yellow big road that you follow, but it's
in these places that you get information. So please y'all
take this information, do the follow up, follow up, make
sure you get your book, make sure you read your
book right, and make sure you follow up with the
people that you need to follow up to make sure
that we're doing what we need to do and what
we have promised you. Because we're in this room for
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a reason, but we have a lot of stuff going on,
but ideally we want to be accountable for everything we
have said that we're going.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
To hold us accountable absolutely, all right, So thank y'all
so much, Thank you so much. Tune into an episode
of I Love Me.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Doing all right? At the Pull Up for Peace conference
in Atlantic City, New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, it's like, yes, you have a live ta lia.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
What's up y'all? This is your girl, doctor Jamelle T. Davis,
and this is Star Wallace and this is I Love
me More.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Hey, Hey, hey, how are you girl? It's been a weekend.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
I can only imagine I have to ask you what
are you doing to try to stay calm and balance
throughout all of this?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
How can you stay calm when you're doing a conference
that you never dreamed the thought that you could do before.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
So we live and direct at pull Up.
Speaker 7 (01:02):
For a Peace that is say do who did the
walk today?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
And hold up y'all. We got a live audience.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Let's give it a full love audience.
Speaker 7 (01:14):
That is so dope, so many young faces.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
That's right, So pull Up for Peace, y'all. It's all
about organizing and galvanizing people from all across the country.
And y'all see I lost my voice, right. So we've
been dancing, we've been talking, we've been healing, we've been praying.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
It's been everything here.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
And what's so dope about this particular conference is that
it's young people, it's old the people, it's everyone.
Speaker 7 (01:42):
It's everyone in one room.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I don't think I've seen that in a long time.
I wish I had been here for the entire thing
to just really absorb it.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
Are y'all having a good time? Are y'all learning stuff?
That's so dope.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I remember as a kid, we always had to be
in these rooms where we're learning, you know.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
The kids did their thing. We always had to be.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
In the room where the adults are leading and teaching
us things. So I think it's so dope, and I
don't think you guys should take that for granted.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
That's right. So pull up for peace, y'all. Is a movement.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a movement all across this nation to let people
know it's to put the guns down and put the
healing up. And what do we mean by healing? It
means to take care of our minds, our bodies, and
our souls and to really emerge into our greater self.
So today, y'all, we got something different. Not only do
we have our podcast I Love Me More, today we're
(02:33):
doing a remix with tm I. So we got tm
I in the building and they doing they thing, and
we're gonna do our thing together.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
So guys, get ready for some fun.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We're definitely in Atlantic City for the Pull Up for
Peace conference, which has been nothing short of amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I never thought I would be at a conference like this,
Like I've been to so many different conferences, but when
you put these type of credible messages and you put
this type of energy in this type of love in
the building, it's just way different. So I just want
to shout all of the organizers of this amazing conference
out for doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
It has been really, really beautiful to see all of
us come together for something so impactful. I don't think
anyone or that we can depend on anyone to do
this type of work for us and for our communities.
And I often hear, you know, people, when we're talking
about the political dynamics of America. People will say, well,
(03:35):
we have to just figure out ways to do for
our own, you know, and we know that right like,
because we understand that no matter who's in white in
the White House, the state House, the city house, or
any level of government, they're never going to be as
invested in our communities as we are on the ground.
And I think that this conference is an example of that,
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of us pulling ourselves together to figure out what are
the strategies, and more importantly, meeting people from across the country.
I was talking to a woman in the hallway yesterday
and I asked her, you know, what has been the
best part of this conference, and she said that I
get to meet other people who are doing what I'm doing,
who may be feeling the stress that I feel or
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you know, and it's not always stressed, because she made
sure to tell me it's not all bad days. But
it feels good to have other folks that I can say, Hey,
what about your experience in this area? She said, you know,
I've been sharing with so many people. I have new friends,
I have new collaborators, new thought partners, which is important.
And I thought that was it has to be exactly
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what this conference was designed to do, to bring people
together so that they can feel stronger and so that
they can feel like they have a network of other
people across the country who are striving for the same goals.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
We are the remedy Tamika.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I watched you guys help to organize Target boycott, and
we saw with our own eyes how quickly stocks plummeted. Right,
So with this conference, we see and know that if
we galvanize, stocks can go up. But it's our stocks.
(05:18):
We must invest in us. And too often we are
divided because we're taught only one organization can shine, only
one queen could be in the building. But when we
come together, nothing is impossible. Nothing is and we need
each other's resources.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
You might have one thing, but I got the other,
and you struggling waiting on your one thing.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
But if I got the other, we could put that
together and we could go. Chinese people come together, the Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
The Vietnamese people come together and get nails laws across
the country and all these things. Why not the violence,
the people that are stopping by community orgs? Why not
we come together while we waiting for the White House
to fund us. Now we need their resources, so we
want them, right, But if they say no.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I still want to be able to say, yes, yeah,
we can't stop just because you know, as people change
face in different positions, different positions of power. When they
change faces, then all of a sudden, our communities are
no longer able.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
To move forward Shample.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And that has never been our reality. We've always been
a resourceful people. And when you think about all these
young people who are here today, you know, I think
that's what we want to teach, right. We want you
all to be able to see that there are people
in our communities who actually care and we're coming together
(06:52):
with solutions for the issues that you're dealing with and
not pointing fingers at other people. Yes, though, we are
are going to make sure that we advocate for ourselves
because the resources that we want from the government, the
resources that we demand from people who are in positions
of influence and power and corporations and all of that,
(07:15):
that is our money. It is our money. It is
our tax dollars that we're asking. We're not begging anyone.
If you ever hear people say, oh, they're just looking
for a handout, no, we're looking for our tax dollars
to circulate back into our communities to address the concerns
like we're putting money in the government. When you pay
your taxes on your job. How many of you have
(07:35):
a job. You have a job and you see little
taxes come out your check, right, and it kind of hurts,
doesn't it. It's like over here the grown people are like, yeah,
the young people might not really pay too close of attention,
but those little taxes, that's serious, right, Like you've given
somebody your money, So when you put your money out
(07:58):
into the world.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
You want to see that.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Because the whole point of them collecting taxes is that
they're supposed to be taking care of.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
The needs of the people.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
But it seems that when it comes to the needs
of black folks and brown folks and underserved communities, we
are always the last ones to get back the resources
that we need. Our communities don't look like the communities
where the rich people live. And guess what, they don't
pay as much tax They don't pay as many taxes
(08:29):
as we do.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Isn't that crazy? Oh no, because the system is designed
for them to win. So now this new system that
we're going to create is designed for us to win,
and it starts.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
With you, young people. I've dedicated my.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Life now to teaching financial literacy to teens. We gotta
start with y'all. Y'all gotta understand and know what credit is.
Y'all gotta understand and know what budgeting is. You gotta
understand how to use your money and make your money grow.
You cannot wait for a handout because the handout might
not be available to you, right, So you got to
(09:04):
know how to make your money, make money. I want
to teach you god side hussuits. I want to teach
you guys how to flip money, how to take but
we ain't gonna do it like they do it on
the block. We ain't gonna buy that other stuff. We're
gonna learn how to buy merchandise, how to sell things,
how to sustain yourself when others won't sustain you.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
So I think that's really the.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Key, y'all, is to teach our people how to collect
and remember the susu back in the days, all that
kind of stuff our parents.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Used to do it.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Okay, y'all know you're shaking your head with the susu.
We gotta figure this thing out like so explain it
on the susu.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So the susu was we had everybody in the family
put a certain amount of money into a pot and
every week, so it's savings, so a saving and what
happened was one family member would get that pot every month, right,
so you as it built up, it just kept going
around as long as you put the money in. And
it was like sometimes you get like five ten thousand,
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and but you just keep putting your same amount of
money and it would grow. The more people that put
into it, it will grow. And this is how a
lot of us was able to survive with the suits.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So that was a big thing. We got to get
back to that.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
But that's literacy. Do you remember.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
That's so really good?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Like any end, what is what are the findings?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Like?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
If you put into it for so long.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
The findings is you're saving your money.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, is we spend Oftentimes we spend before we get
how many of y'all can admit. Sometimes you spend that
paycheck before that paycheck come. That's not good. So what
the SUSU does is helped you have a lump sum
so that it budgets you. It helps you the budget
and save and be able to really really get your
money together.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So it's really.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
These banks, these banks is taking your money. They doing
the same thing and they giving you like less than
one percent of your money. So they flipping your money.
You put money into the bank. That's that's what the
bank does. They take your money, they invest in stocks
and all these things, and they make billions and billions
of dollars and they give you like zero point one
percent of growth on your money. I'll be looking at
(11:15):
the bank, I'll be like, you had this amount of
money and it's only like forty dollars in like two years.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Growing, Like what the hell is going on? It ain't
really nothing growing.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
If you're waiting on that, brother, you're gonna be waiting
for this real time exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So that's what I'm saying is sousu is at least
when you get that that lump summer money, you like,
oh I'm putting my money and I actually see some
level of return on it. So we got to get
back to financial literacy. And I think that's what I
love about this converse, like this, this conversation right here
is this is what we've been doing. We've been sharing.
Is nobody gay keeping. It's not somebody little means.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And big us.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's none of that it's us giving you our knowledge,
our wisdom, our our triumphs our fails and everything so
that you can learn from it and growth from.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
I also want to say something because you know, this
just reminds me of when I went to college, and
the first thing that you do when you go to
college is almost set up for failure, Like that first
week of college when you enter the dorm room business conference,
and that conference is set up for you to get
your first Discover card for you get your first credit card,
and it's so easy to get that, but there's not
one class on how to manage that card, how to
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use this card to build your credit.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
So by the time you get to that five hundred dollars,
you have.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
The first negative thing on your credit report, on top
of these student loans that you're taking out that you
think are going to take.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Care of themselves that don't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
So I think this is so important because it's financial
literacy is the tool that unless you're taking finance, there's
no where to talk about finances and how to manage that.
You think they're just going to make the money and
pay it off, and that's not how it works. Like
you're set up for failure, even in the institutions that
are that are designed for success.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You know what, this is such a good conversation because
when you think about pull Up for Peace, you think
of a conference that is designed to bring together the
community that's working to curve violence in our communities. You
would believe that we're only going to talk about like
shooting and you know, different strategies to get guns off
(13:15):
the street. But what we have to understand is that
violence is a public health crisis. And if violence is
a public health crisis, that means there has to be
a public health strategy for addressing violence. And in order
to do so, you have to look at the root
causes of an issue. Right, That's what public health does.
(13:37):
Whenever something is considered to be a public health crisis,
there are people who study the public health issues that
lead to the crisis. And poverty is a number of issues.
It is a number one. How many of you think
that poverty is a number one issue for problems that
(13:58):
you see in your community? For the young folks in
the back, are you listening to me, Yeah, there you go, poverty?
Speaker 5 (14:05):
What do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
What do you think? Do you think that poverty is
probably one of the biggest challenges in your community. We
would you say yeah, People are saying yes, absolutely, and.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I just want to jump in here.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So the goal is we have to break the thorns
of poverty, right, and poverty makes people desperate.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
People don't just want to commit crimes. Wow.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
People ain't just saying Hey, today I'm gonna go commit
a crime. People are saying today, I want to get
a lick. People are saying today, I want to survive.
So if you look at crime, crime is generally directly
related to a financial gain. So if I teach people
how to get to the back, chances are they're not
(14:56):
going to get to the back the wrong way. And
for me to me, I went to jail for a
thirty million dollar bank for a case. Right, So I
learned early how to get to the bag, but I
was getting there the wrong way, and I didn't realize
when you get to the bag the wrong way, you're
throwing Brits at the penitentiary system. Okay, cause it's gonna
(15:18):
come get you. It's all a paper trail, they all
waiting for you. But I learned when you do it
the right way, that's how you break the bonds and
pop and you take your time.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
So my parents did it.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
One of the ways to do it is through education.
We tell y'all to go to school, and y'all like, uhuh,
But let me explain to you. When you go to
school and you get a certain degree, there's a certain
bottom line level of money that they gotta pay you.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And we're not even saying, okay, just get the degree.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Get the information, because some of y'all entrepreneurs. If you
have the information, you're gonna be able to make more money.
Now to make that money, you gotta make that money grow.
So you need to know about real.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Estate and assets.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And then my parents came from nothing and they used
real estate to make them rich. They bought property after
property after another property. My father owns like maybe fifty
properties now.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
But the thing about your family that you know. A
couple of weeks ago, I needed something that Jamilla couldn't
get to me physically, so she left it in her
mom's office and I went to her mother's office to
go pick up my books, right And while I was
in there, the thing that I realized is not only
(16:31):
because they have cornered the marketplace your family, and this
is you're thinking about two people, just regular folks just
like us. Yeah, regular people, regular people. And now still
at this point they're elderly and your mom is still
whatever her real estate to the company. So what they
(16:52):
have done is not only do they own properties, they
sell properties. Right, your mom is like doing transactions selling
properties and renting to people while also buying properties. And
it gives you. It's like you have to They say
that a woman needs seven forms of incomes in order
(17:14):
for her to be successful, to sustain herself. We need
seven forms. So imagine they are collecting rinks.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
That's a lot of income. Jesus.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I mean by how many jobs.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Do you do? How about ten jobs? Actually?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
But you gotta have it, so mice. That's why y'all.
We're giving y'all game right now.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
We want you to get it from now to know
that making money it's not difficult. People make it difficult
because we see I need twenty dollars. Then you got
to get away from the twenty dollars people. But you
need to get around the people who.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Talking about something. And I learned that too. Poverty.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
How you said it's a public health is you can
it's a disease and it's o agous. Let me tell you,
I love my folks, but I don't hang around broke folks.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Now broke folks.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Today saying you, if you hang around five people, you're
gonna be the six.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
So if you around people like a ta meek, a
mallory of so, because y'all keep me going now, I'm like,
all right, we're gonna go a little higher.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
We're gonna go.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
You gotta be around people doing things, and then it'll
show you that you could do it too. They're not
smarter than you, They not better than you, they're not
wiser than you.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
The difference between you and dumbest information.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Well, it's not just information. It's not just information because
some of these people be dumb as hell and they
make a lot of money because they have discipline and
they and they are that's the epation.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
So the information is how to be successful.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
So Stephen Kobe right has the seven steps of being
an effectual successful person.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
But don't you see no information?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But don't you think you can have information if you
don't do anything with what you know.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
You're going biblical right. So faith without works.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
As void rightsibility because I can give you all the
tools that you need but if you're not going to
have that mind set and your stuff and believe you
your stuff to go apply it.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Then So let's talk about this real quick. Our people
perish because of lack of knowledge.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
So we're gonna take it to the word. So we
at the world. Let's go to the world.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Our people perish because of what even spiritual knowledge. Right,
we're working in spiritual warfare. Some of us have generational
curses on.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Us and all kinds of things.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Right, So if we lack the knowledge of how to
pray to break the spiritual curts, we're done.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
If we don't know how you can get money on
the phone, we got down. Kids are different than us.
We used to really have to do real work to
get money. I didn't know you can't can get on.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
The phone, do a shimmy shade, do a front of
our sell a shirt, and go get to the bag.
Our people perish because of what lack of knowledge. So
it's our to show people that it doesn't take a
lot to get money. We keep acting like, oh, you
got it, Nah, you can get.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
On TikTok shimmy shak.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
We can figure out the shimmy shak and we can
get a coin, So we have to figure out different
ways to get money, and we got to teach our
kids how to do it so that they know it's
not as difficult as they think.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
All right, Just no, I just want to add to that.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
She's been preaching all day.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
To day, lady.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I feel the spirit she been led today.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Nah No, I just want to say, you know in
that I you knows as young people, you know the
confidence level, right, It would be so amazing to see
the same confidence that I see young people when something
is bad or when it's time to fight or do
something crazy, but the lack of confidence when it's time
to step up and.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Learn information and apply that information.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
And I really want you guys, as we're sitting here
having this conversation, to look within and.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Find those tools, you.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Know, look within and understand that you are a beautiful person,
that you are an amazing person, that there's only one
person in this entire world like you, and apply that
to what we are saying, to what you identify with.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
We're not saying, you know, uh, there's one lane for you.
There are multiple lanes for everybody in this room. But
to have the.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Confidence to step into it and to know that You
guys are not in this room by chance, a happenstance,
but there's somebody who loves you right to bring you,
to take the time to bring you into this room,
into these rooms, and that not just take it for granted,
but to know that you are supposed to be here
because there's something great in you.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Baby, we might need to put up a chance.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I'm telling you, come on up.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You know you might be the wonder day because God
the Spirit is moving to Meka. First of all, I
love you. I might love you too, but to me,
I love you, and I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
You why I love you. I love you because.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
You have power, and with your power, you're willing to
lend that power to others. So I think one of
the call of actions is teaching not just our youth,
but our people are skilled. I want to share one
of the things we're doing in Birmingham and one of
the things we do in New York City. I make
sure that they give us discretion every funding to give
(22:23):
each of our kids five hundred dollars to start their
own businesses. Juneteenth, we had over one hundred teen entrepreneurs
vending at their city complex. Right we're going to Birmingham
with it. And now we do a program for gods
called Flipping the Game where we give them two thousand
dollars to start their own business. And people don't understand
(22:45):
that resources and information is a game changer because one
of two things are going to happen. Even if my
kids don't pursue the career that we give them or
show them how to do, guess what happens. Their confidence
is boost they know what success looks like, they can
feel once you could feel it, baby, That's how the
battle because you got to have the faith to be
So if we speak light to them, we give them resources,
(23:08):
we give them information, and.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
We charge our people to do the same.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
So one of the things I want us to do
through this podcast, through this platform, we know so many
people that get to the bag. First of all, Black
women right are the number one entrepreneurs in the country.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And one thing about black women, black women love who
that to meeke a dem allery?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Date who they love her?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Do black women love to make a dem allery? So
one of the things I want you to make a
pledge for us for pull up for because baby, I
have an ass That's another thing y'all gonna learn right.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
You have not because you what ah.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So I want you to learn how to ask people
for things because all they can tell you is no.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
And I don't think my sister's gonna say no. So
my ask for the.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Pull Up for Peace pledge is that you ask all
of those black women and all those incredible, amazing black
men that you guys know that are affluent, to come
into our community and teach a skill to our people
about how to get money.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I want people that are who are looking.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Like them, been where they've been, sleep where they slept,
who are successful to come drop gems.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
See that's the other thing we get kicked. We don't
want to give up the information.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
But if we create the community that cultivates the information
and we roll it.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Out to our people, that's how we break the bonds
apart it.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Come on, now, create the community so we not only
pull up for peace, we pull up for a piece
of the.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Power because it's our time. Come on now. I got
a little.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Preacher in me too. Now. But this is what it's about. Man.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Energy, Just give yourself around reports everybody in the end. Man,
because the energy for these last three days has just
been off the Chaine.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Hold on, we're gonna through the plans, y'all gonna do now?
I don't know, y'all. I don't want to commitment on
the carriage.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
No, no, I'm definitely down for that, definitely, no.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I just was I just I've been just praising this
this conference for the last three days, like just and
I just want to praise you, Jamila, because.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Praise God because he's using us.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I'm a best fool and he's using me. But I
know the people with the power. So that's why I
was so grateful for y'all to walk through the door,
because sometimes we don't even know how to use our power,
right we you know, we do what we do, but
I want you to use your power for the people
that are going through poverty, because mentors ship what we
do know and you not. I learned that in your book, baby,
you have some good mentor did y'all read Micky Demailoris
(25:46):
I left.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
To tell a story.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That never if y'all ain't get that man, oh baby,
but to get that thing.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
And I learned you had some incredible mentors.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So success and the part of why I have such
important contributions in my life is because I understood since
I was a little girl, the importance of sitting with elders. Yeah,
my parents took me around elders all the time. And
it wasn't really they weren't doing it intentionally. It's just
(26:21):
that they I was a kid who went wherever they went.
So I would go to rallies and other organized spaces,
and while being there, you know, the elders did not
just look over me. That's good, right, And that's something
that we have to so lindful of as older people
in the room. Sometimes we'll see a young person and
(26:43):
kind of little kid them and not and it's aggravating
that they're even there. But they didn't do that to
me as a young kid. The elders would sit with me,
they would talk to me. Sometimes i'd get to the
rally on a Saturday morning. We had rallies every Saturday
that my parents took me to, and somebody would have
like books for me, kids books with ribbons on it,
(27:05):
and they would give it to me and then they
asked me, what did you read the book? Because I
was one of maybe four kids that's always around, and
so they found ways to work with me and talk
to me.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
So I always had this thing.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
For elderly people, and.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Actually, you know, it was like a blessing from God
that I had the taste in my mouth or the
space in my heart to sit with the eighty year
old and just listen to them. Not everyone does that, right,
And in my book, when you talk about my memoir,
everywhere I've been on tour, people have asked me, what's
(27:43):
the one thing that I want young people to take
away from this book? And you guys should get the book.
It's a really good book. And I'm not saying it
just because it's my book. It is a really good
book for development in your life and just to hear
the story of someone else who came from exactly where
you all are are coming from, right. And so my
(28:03):
answer to the one thing I want kids to take
away is listen to your parents, right. And I know
that's like corny, like you know what I mean, listen
to your parents. People like, okay, you know, But what
I realized. What I realized is that every single thing
my mother told me everything, I mean, every single thing
(28:28):
she said, eventually I found out that she was right.
She may not have known in the moment exactly what
she was talking about, but her wisdom was actually the
navigation tool for my life. And I bring that up
because these elders that I talked to, that I sit
(28:49):
at the feet of, throughout my entire life, they have
helped me. And even if in the moment whatever they
was saying to me didn't make sense, there was some
place that I was out in the wild and this
out on the boardwalk, as they say, trying to figure
out my life, and the words that they told me
would come back to me. It does not mean that
my friends who look like me and the people who
(29:10):
are sitting next to you are not important. But it
is the wisdom of people who've already gone passed you
that can help you. You don't make the same so
you don't make the same mistake all.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
The time, that we are cheat sheets to life. Yeah right,
because my son, my son didn't realize this till he
was twenty years old.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I never forget it.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Like I've been talking to him and you think you're
not listening. But if you're talk enough, if you talk enough,
they listen, you know. And that's what we gotta do.
We gotta we gotta understand as elders that our kids
are taking in information.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
We think they not listening. But I remember I woke.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I think it was like his twentieth birthday, and I
went to his Facebook, and on his Facebook he wrote,
I just now realized that my dad never told me
nothing wrong. Everything that he ever said to me was
one hundred percent correct. And we find that out. And
I found the same thing else. I remember I used
to tell my mother. I remember I had a girlfriend.
I'm marrying this girl. My mother said, you're not married.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I love her.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Mami together, I said, you're not gonna marry.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Just relax.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And then when we broke up, and then I said,
how you knew, she said, because I know because I'm
your mother, because I lived life and I've had that
same stage, in the same phase, and all the stuff
that you're thinking, I've already thought. I'm and you're a
product of me, So I know exactly what you're going through.
So just understand that we have levels of wisdom and
(30:34):
things that prevent you from making the mistakes that we made.
Don't You don't have to do it when you're around
people who have wisdom and you have elders that pour
into you.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Please take that out.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And you know, I think this conversation is so important
because you can get money. Like you talked about, we
could teach you how to make money. I need you
mill to continue to teach me how to make money
because I am a service oriented person, so I give
more than I take right And that's changing now because
now I'm forty five years old. And so it was
(31:06):
cute from whatever age to forty five, but now at
forty five, I'm beginning to think about the rest of
my life and what I will leave behind for my granddaughter,
who's my bestie, my broke three year old almost three
years old bestie. But she's not gonna be broke because
she's going to control and my life. All of my
(31:26):
resources will be signed over to her at some point.
If my son was here, he'd be like, word, yeah, absolutely,
thank you for giving me my best friend, my sweetheart, Blair.
And so you can make money, because I've made lots
of money in my life, millions of dollars. But how
(31:47):
you not only keep the money but value the money
and value what to do with the money comes from
your character and the other influences that you have around.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
You and financial literacy.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
So again information. Our people perish because of what. So
as we continue to cultivate this community, I know we
come into a close This is good stuff. We gotta
stay in touch, we gotta give back, we gotta do more.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Right.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Most of y'all young people. Where you're from? Atlantic City?
How many y'all from Atlantic City? Okay? I see a lot.
How many of y'all from New York City? Okay? Few?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
How many organizations? So we are representing a few organizations.
So one of the things I'm gonna do, I'm gonna
practice what I preach. All of y'all promise you this
book I Live to Tell a Story is amazing. I'm
gonna donate a copy to every single person because I
bought my copy.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Shall that's my sister buying right, Yes, So.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
We're gonna get y'all a copy of the book, and
we're gonna start talking to your cities about contributions.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I'm doing some.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Work in Atlantic City, so I'm gonna ask your mayor
about out our earn and learn program.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Let's give y'all. How many of y'all like to get
five hundred dollars to start your own business in here? Okay?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
You see them? Hans is out. My kids want that money.
So we're going through Marty. Marty's well, we're gonna talk
to you all right, so we're gonna figure out how
to create more programs like that SYS.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
We want y'all, y'all to come.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
In the community, you know Institute or Research for Social
Justice and Action that was created by myself and your
brother Angelo Pinto.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
We created the institute to be the church in action. Right.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
It's okay to go to a place and be filled
up or spiritual house, right, but some of us need
other things like information, resources, stuff that applies to the natural.
So we got the spiritual, then we got the practical.
So the Institute was created to give the people the practical.
How do I get money right now? How do I
level up right now? How do our professionalize right now?
(33:57):
To take my idea, because many of us have dreams.
God talks to us through our hearts and our dreams.
But if we don't know how to make our dreams
of reality, then we stock right. The Institute gives some information,
So I'm looking for y'all to come on down and
to the Institute and give us all lot of information
and resources.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Y'all can love that.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
So you know, before we go, I just want to
say that, you know, it's about taking these little bits
and pieces of information right that build your life.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
It's not one mapped out it's not one mapped out.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Lane the yellow big road that you follow, but it's
in these places that you get information. So please y'all
take this information, do the follow up, follow up, make
sure you get your book, make sure you read your
book right, and make sure you follow up with the
people that you need to follow up to make sure
that we're doing what we need to do and what
we have promised you. Because we're in this room for
(34:52):
a reason, but we have a lot of stuff going on,
but ideally we want to be accountable for everything we
have said that we're going.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
To hold us accountable absolutely, all right, So thank y'all
so much, Thank you so much. Tune into an episode
of I Love Me.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
More and your Ma.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
And you already know what it is.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
We'll holliful peace pollif peace.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Pull up a peace
Speaker 2 (35:18):
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