December 17, 2025 • 49 mins
In this episode of TMI, Tamika Mallory and Mysonne talk about heavy political and social issues shaping America right now. The duo dives into how today’s political leadership, and the people backing them, are impacting everyday life, stressing why local organizing, community action, and voter registration are more important than ever as midterm elections approach. They also discuss ongoing global crises, their dedication to mutual aid, and showing up for their communities. Things heat up as they unpack mainstream media narratives, call out political hypocrisy, and take a hard look at Donald Trump’s influence on the political landscape. The episode also has a powerful conversation about strategy, resistance, and how to win the fight for social justice and political accountability.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Tamika D.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Mallory and it's your boy, my son.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
In general, we are your host of t M I.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration, New.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Name, New Energy. But what's going on with my son?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm chilling. What's going on with you all as well?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
All as well? It's too cold? America is bugging. It's
too cold in New York City. I don't even know
what to say. It's too cold for my skin.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You just you, You've been really complaining about being cold,
even when it's going from you still cold, like not
even a cold derangement central.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
That way, it has been cold. I feel so sorry
for my little granddaughter, you know, and I don't know why.
And this is what's wrong with the children of today.
The children of today are not going to be well,
let's not say that, but there is a possibility that
they will not be as strong as us. Because we
it was two and three and four years old, as
we have discussed on this show before, and the snow
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was up to the top of our heads and we
had to walk through the little path that they created.
And I'm over here feeling sorry for my granddaughter because
I don't want her to be out in the clat.
I don't want her to experience it. And I want
her to be driven door to door and be warm.
She ain't like snow like I didn't allow it. They
said the parents said they was gonna take a full
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plane and the snow, and I say, cold, I don't
want you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Out making snow. Man, kids need experiences, they need those
type of things. We were right to. We sheltered. Like
they'll shut the school down for two or three inches
of snow. We used to have to go to school
when it was five feet of snow, and like you said,
they shoveled a little walkway and you went inside that school.
The snow was covering the windows. You couldn't see outside,
but you was inside that school. They ain't even shut
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no schools down. You know what I'm saying. Super privilege
and catering and not allowing these kids to go through something. Man,
they need to do goosside the snow a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And they also had the Remember we had the snowsuits
and you had to take all of that stuff or
bring your sneakers to school, had to hang everything out.
I don't okay, I mean, I hear you, I guess
you know, you gotta do what you gotta do, and
i'm and you're right and I'm wrong and I get it.
But I like when she's comfy because she's so sweet
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and cute. AnyWho, I have been attending multiple retreats and conferences,
and I think it's just important to say, you know
to people who listen to us. And I hear it
all the time. I see people when I'm out traveling,
Folks will say what are we doing? Like are we
what are we doing? Because it is America is out
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of control, off the chain, and people are concerned, and
because folks don't kind of see, you know, a lot
of big convenence, like you know, in the past, you
had the State of the Black Union. You had you know,
big speaches where lots of people would show up in
different spaces, whether it be a big speech by Reverend
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Jesson Jackson, a big you know, conference situation. Not that
conferences are not still happening, but it just seemed like
the information may have been spread widely or more widely,
and even on social media. In the past, we have
had sessions where we kind of laid out like step
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one two three. This is how people need to get involved.
But what we are dealing with at this point is
a very diabolical diabolical not just administration, but people who
support the administration or you know, I saw a mean
today that said I didn't. I didn't. I voted for
the racism, but not the high prices, right. And so
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those people, the people who voted for the racism, knowing
that they are in proximity with us, we either be
real careful about what we share and I you know,
I just want to report for folks that people are
not sitting by doing nothing, saying nothing and you know,
just kind of like not working. Folks are actually very
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very very very much so participating in dialogue strategy around
what we will do on multiple levels. Of course, in
mid time elections coming up, it's very important. It's we
do not have a year. People think of it that way,
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that we have a year, but actually there will be
primaries and right now is the time to start thinking
of your plan, making sure you're registered, making sure other
people around your register. If you are saying to if
you say to me, you meet me in the street
and you say, oh, this scenalary, you know, I'm so
concerned what are we going to do and you haven't
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figured out a plan for how you're going to register
one hundred people in your community. Then you ask for
me the question, and that's cool. What the answer has
to be, how do you activate locally? That's what That's
what it's all about. It's a local game. And this
is not about swing states, because we're not just looking
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for particular states to you know, for in terms of
like a presidential election. This is about the entire nation.
How many people can you move in your local community?
And I'm saying one hundred, but you might be able
to do a thousand people on Saturdays on you know,
just every day that you have time, making sure you're
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out there registering people, making sure they understand the process
and that they get involved. So that's one thing on
the you know, the issue of voter I mean of
the midterm elections. Also how we're going to take care
of one another. You know, there are multiple stories moving
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around about the jobs numbers, and you know, I saw
something the other day in fact, shout out to our
brother Jay Jordan, who works at Reform. He sent me
an article that talks about how women who are formally
incarcerated are like unemployed at about fifty percent. Like that's
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a real high number of women who are for and
so imagine if you have that and then you have
an overall pot of women who are probably a million,
maybe even more, who have also been pushed out of
the workforce just in the last eleven months. And now
the administration is saying that they are not even going
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to release the jobs numbers, so we will not even
see going forward the numbers. So there's a lot happening,
and people are meeting about how we will take care
of one another, what mutual aid looks like, what resources
do we had to ensure that we are hiring within
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if you still have a budget for anything. It's not
about THEI, it's not about black it's not about any
of that. But they are qualified individuals who can be
hired to work those jobs and to take on those contracts.
So there's you know, there's a lot of different conversations happening,
and you know, and I've been sitting in these retreats,
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in these spaces, and i just want to make sure
to articulate to folks that people are not sitting by
doing nothing. People are really with their heads down just
figuring out what are the steps that we have to
take to be able to deal with the time that
we have left with this administration.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, I agree, you know, it's it is difficult. A
lot of people are confused about exactly what's going on.
But you have to be engaged, you know, you have
to make sure that you like you said that you
registered the vote. You have to look at who you
want to be in offers when we're not just being registered,
but looking at the people who are running for office
and see, you know, speak about, Hey, this is what
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we want to see from the people that we elect.
And that's what the problem is a lot of people
have been just aimlessly voting right and not really having
ask you know. That's what we did with the State
of the People told when we went around, we decided
to find out what was wanted by the community, find out, hey,
what do you what do you want to see by
the community, What are the ill in your community, What
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do you think is needed? What kind of resources need
in your community. So therefore, when we're looking at this
midterm election, we have an agenda for our communities. We
have an agenda that we can go and give to
each one of these elected officials and those people who
want our votes to say, are you willing? What? What
are the what part of this? Can you you know,
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guarantee that you're going to fight on behalf of you know,
we can't guarantee that anything is going to happen. We
want people in office that actually have an agenda, that
have the will and actually want to do something different,
because that's the one we'real that we want to do
something different.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Rebuild. We can't rebuild what has always been. Oh no,
we gotta, we.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Gotta, we gotta tell this this, this whole thing is
don't want to shreads, man. I tell people it's not
about partisan that it's about the people, man, And we
really want to be on the side of the people.
You know. I think our communities have been overlooked and
taking it for granted for so long, and that's why
most people are jaded. But I'm one hundred percent sure
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that looking at this administration that people realize that, Okay,
I know that I might have been bad with the
Democrats so this and that and felt like this and that,
but I know, damn well, we can't live like this.
So this is this is out of control.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
You know, it was just thinking about where we are
as you know, in a in a worldwide context, right,
because yeah, this country is certainly we we we've got
some serious issues and I think we all know that.
But the entire world is really, really, really going through
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like a significant crisis. And I'm not suggesting that we
haven't always experienced massacres and murder and you know, and
corruption and violence and all the things, hunger and you know,
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I don't think I don't know if we're allowed to
say genocide, maybe it'll be muted out, but that's always happened,
but it seems that we're seeing it all taking place
at one time, from coast to coast, and it's very
very scary when you think about the Congo Haiti, you know,
Sudan and the issues there. And I'm actually going to
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be doing something with the Friends of Congo where we
help to raise money for some of the efforts that
they have going on. And when you think about the
fact that African nations are screaming see us like we're
over here dying as well because our natural resources are
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being stolen. We know about the issues in Nigeria, and
there are many places in African countries, African nations that
are dealing with all types of violence, and it's all
based upon theft and control. People not wanting to allow
Africa and then of course, like we said, Haiti to
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control their own destiny, right like they want to impose
European sanctions if you will across the board and steal
resources and see and European and of course America, we
always in the middle of some shit try, you know,
saying that we're helping people and not really helping people
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at all, and so that's happening. You also have Israel, God,
the Israel and the Palestinians who are absolutely and slaughtered
right and and that's another issue that has been a
part of the dialogue. You also have the horrific killings
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that just took place in Australia where folks who are
celebrating their holiday, the Jewish community celebrating their holiday Tonkah,
they are in in in celebration together. It's a spiritual
time for them. And to have some deranged person full
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of hate to go there and murder people, and then
to have a man put his life in jeopardy to
try to stop it. In the irony of that man
being a Muslim man having to say to in that moment,
see humanity and not race, not who is who in
what side politically, but just to know I have to
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do something right now because people are being killed. And
then you come here to America where we are, and
in addition to the day to day to day struggle
that you and others are engaged in trying to keep
our men saying and to reduce violence in our communities,
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we got folks dealing with domestic violence issues we have
in domestic violence and relationships, but also with families. I
keep seeing videos of mothers killing children, father killed the
mother the children I mean, and now the continuation of
these killings that's happening a bitch, mass shootings happening on
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college campuses and now Brown University at least two people
have been killed. That's a lot. That's a lot. It's
a lot. It's a lot. And the idea that all
of it gets wrapped up in political contexts, like you
can't just say I feel so bad about the killing,
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because the next thing, you know, you also into the
conversation around geopolitical politics or you know what the person believed.
And it's a lot, and I can Imagine that there
are people whose mental health is being impacted extremely by
not but by their nervous system not knowing from day
to day what we are, what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, it's it's really a lot when you look at
the news. Sometimes I look at the news because I
want to be informed, but sometimes it's like damn, like
for real again, like when you when you turn on
the news and you I've just seen a young black
boy and he was talking about the brown situation, what
happened there? And he just said he was saying, like,
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you know, we just heard these noises, we didn't know
what was going on. And then you just just understanding,
putting your mind and trying to just identify and just think,
to you, so, what what I do in the situation
like that? Imagine how they must the felt just hearing that.
And then you look at the news, like you said,
you see the man this on the gunman and you
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just see just thinking about that these people are on
the beach and you shooting up a beach. Fifteen people dead,
dozens are injured. It's like, my god, like to have
to constantly see that level with trauma all the time
and know that this is this is the world we
live in, and it's constantly happening. It's overbearing, you know,
and it's overbearing for me. And we've been doing this work. Look,
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we constantly see this happen on a regular basis. We've
been doing this work. You've grown up in this space.
So I understand the average individual who is not you know,
not hasn't been brought up in this and had to
deal with this uncle at this level every day of
his life. You know, for the most part, I can
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imagine what he's thinking and imagining what these kids are thinking.
Our kids are growing up in a time that's just
so dangerous. You got to be scared to send your
kids to school, like people sitting their kids. It's the
school and they not coming home. They dying on the
college campus. Just imagine that. You you raised your kid
up and you send them off to school and they
don't come home, and they lose it like they should
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be getting a higher limiting. You know. We just we're
in some real bad times, man. And I'm praying for
all of the victims, playing for those who are still injured,
who are still alive, you know, I'm praying for the
soul of America.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, absolute, the soul of the world.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We need it.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean absolutely, I agree with you one hundred percent.
It's way. It's over the top. It's over the top,
and it makes you and it makes you have the
second guess, like should I even be bringing kids into
this society, you know, with all of this stuff going on,
because you know, I can't imagine getting a call. It's
funny that every time I get a phone call from
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my granddaughter's parents, I'm stressed just from seeing the phone
number come through. I don't even know what happened. And
it's part in ninety nine point nine percent of the time,
it's just regular stuff. You know, Hey, do you have this?
Can you find that? Or you know, maybe a joke
or something, or hey, did you know you know Grandma
said this, ha ha ha, whatever. But my initial instinct
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is that I'm so concerned that, you know, as to
what might be on the other end of that phone line,
just because of everything that's going on. And that's just
a terrible way for us to operate. And I don't
know how we fix that, you know, I don't know
that there is even a way to fix it. But
what I do know is I don't believe that we
can continue on this path like at this rate of
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intense pressure. I don't see how long this can go on.
And unfortunately we don't have a president who's even who's
helping at all. One thing about Obama, he wasn't perfect
on any on the issues. We can all give our critiques.
You're gonna be you have. You are going to critique
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every president every single time, and probably every elected official
every single time, because they're going to have some blind
spot somewhere or something that you don't agree with, you
feel that they should be doing, and therefore there's always
going to be a critique. So this isn't to say
that President Obama was perfect, but what he was was
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a calming spirit he had. Uh. I think I saw
you say something about well you didn't say this about
President Obama, but he exhibited a level of decorm and leadership.
So you at least went to bed thinking, Okay, perhaps
somebody is with some good sense is gonna try to
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negotiate or deal with or address these issues. This what
we're dealing with is a lunatic. I mean, he's literally
a lunatic. There's no way your nervous system can even feel.
You know, it's like having a man in your house
and you come in the house and you you know,
you're like, oh my god. You know today at work,
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this one did this to me, and you know, the
kids upset me and I lost my keys and this
and that, and your husband go, oh my gosh, instead
of saying, wow, okay, let's work on solutions and calm
down and let's let's try to figure out how we're
gonna what we're gonna do. You deal with somebody that
gets more crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Than you, and you're dealing with somebody was not well.
That brings me to my teeth comment because this man
like and you know what I've been I've been really
trying to limit them up because I don't really you know,
I wish I didn't have to talk about I wish
he wasn't the president of the United States. I wish
I didn't have to look on the TV and here's
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some of the most outland the ship that he says
and does every day. I wish I just I wish
everything in me wishes that I didn't have to speak
on this. But if I if I don't speak on this,
there are people that actually look for me for information, right,
and it's not gossip. It's not to quote unquote. What
he likes to say is Trump and rage percent and
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this is this is what he said today. You know,
one of the great actor and director, Rob Reiner, passed away.
You know, I remember him from All in the Family.
He was meet at. That's all I remember him being
meet at. You know, I was a young kid. I
used to watch All in the Family and he was
It tackled some real race issues. And then there was
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a spin off called The Jeffersons, which George Jefferson was
inside of All of the Family. Him and Archie Bunker
would go at it and it was about race. It
was a lot of race issues in there, and it
showed how they both had race issues and Archie Bunker
was a real racist due but they started to learn
each other and they actually started to grow into a friendship.
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So it was one of the first shows on TV
that I seen actually tackled that, you know. And then
he moved on and he became a lot more politically
sad he was. He spoke out about a lot of
different things and he passed away and he was actually
I heard he was killed by his child him and
his wife was killed by his child, and Donald Trump
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put out a statement saying, a very sad thing happened
last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured, struggling but
once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed
away together with his wife Michelle, reportedly due to anger
he caused others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction
with mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes
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referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven
people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump,
which his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump
administration surpassed all goes in expectations of greatness and with
the Golden Age of America upon us perhaps like never before.
May Rob and Michelle rest in peace. Now, That to
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me was the craziest shit I've ever heard of presidency.
Like I've never seen someone of salm who had supposed
to be a leader get on it, tell get on
his social media and put a message out of about somebody,
a civilian who was killed. I just never seen that.
And the fact that people have normalized this kind of behavior,
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right the fact that people have normalized this kind of behavior.
It's crazy. And then right after that, I mean the
day before that, he was talking about the people who
were murdered in Brown and he just says that things
can happen. You know, it's sad that they lost their life,
the people who lost their life, nine people who are injured,
you know, hope you heal fast, but you know, things happen.
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And I've never seen that type of callousness, the type
of just lack of leadership. And that's always been my
problem with Trump, you know, I just I felt like
he was always just so unqualified, like there was nothing
presidential about anything that he said. Here, you know, people
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have lost their lives as family members, you know, people
are traumatized, and you say things happen, Like, what kind
of leadership is that?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, he has to say that because you know, he's
bought and paid for by the NRA, such as many
of the Democrats and Republicans who hold federal office, who
are people people who are on that level, right, they
are bought and paid for by the National Rifle Association,
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And so what the hell else are they going to say?
Because if they if they if they make even a
half of the statement that kind of leans in the
direction of their needing to be reformed. They're needing to
be tougher gun laws that specifically address, you know, limiting
the amount of assault weapons and mass production of guns.
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If you even say that a little bit, it adds
seem to what many have been saying for years and
years and years and years, that there has to be
a change in the system. And so what they're doing
is what they do very very well that we could
take a page out of their book on a number
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of issues, is that they are pretty much saying we
are lockstep and key that even if people, even with
casualties in this war, right, we stand where we stand
and we're not gonna waiver, and we're all going to
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be on the same talking points. And so the only
thing I can say is something stupid, especially when when
I know that the uneducated are a large part of
the people who actually follow me and listen to me,
because that's what he said. He said that the uneducated
or under educated or whatever, same damn thing, that they
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love him so and he loves them. So he's talking
to people who he believes to be stupid, and so
he says things can happen, and then you know what,
people sit there and say, well, you know, you know,
you know, well they say, oh yeah, you know, well, hey,
maybe you know things can happen, you know, but at
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least you know, a gas price is a down or
some crazy shit that makes in their mind. They can
make it make sense, you know what I'm saying. And meanwhile, meanwhile,
two people were killed on that campus. One young man
he looks like he might be a Latino descent. I
didn't look up who he is. And then the young
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lady is a young white woman who was actually over
the Republican FUCUS or whatever on the campus. So this
is this is bipartisan. The murders, the dash is bipartisan.
It's not, oh well, only certain people. As much as
you want to, we could sit here and talk about
Charlie Kirk and how awful he was. What happened to
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that man on TV is not acceptable. It's just not
it's crazy. That's something.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But the great thing is, you know, and I've seen
a lot of people saying that today that you couldn't say,
you couldn't utilize Charlie Kirk's words after he was killed.
You couldn't say, well, Charlie Kirk said this without being
chan sued, people losing their job, arrested. You couldn't say,
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you couldn't post what he said. But the Trump can
get on TV, get on social media and say all
this stuff about blah Bryan. You can disrespect that man
minutes after he lost his life and you can say
that and it's okay. But people couldn't say, well, you know,
I didn't agree with Charlie Kirk because he said blah
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blah blah. These are now.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Look I want to see. I want to see if
the uneducated file Trump followers, if they are going to
say this is wrong, right. But I'm telling you it's
a cult behavior. It's a cult like behavior where you
can't find anything you could say. What people can sit
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and say to Meeka Mallory and my son are Democratic,
whatever they call us. I see them say all kinds
of stuff about we love Democrats, be whatever. But I
can at least run down five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
sometimes fifty things that I have an issue with as
it relates to how the Democrats operate. I never never
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do I hear some of these uneducated Trump followers. I
never hit them say I have a problem with number six, seven,
and eight, nine and ten. They literally make excuses for
everything that he does. And I could sing and tell you, well,
I don't like when Joe Biden did this. I have
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an issue with Kambla. Harris on that. I have an
issue with Congressman so and so on this. I can
literally give you ten things off the top of my
head that I've challenged the administration. I've marched against, organized against,
went into rooms and pushed against on certain things. And
most of these people when you say, when you say, well,
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what you just mentioned the comparison in the Charlie Kirks scenario,
I've watched some of these people who I know, get
on their social media and say it is wrong to
talk crazy or not even said that's so crazy, but
it is wrong to address Charlie Kirk's racism in the
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midst of you know, in light of his death right
like they said that, Okay, fine, let's say you agree
with that. Let's say you agree with that, which, by
the way, when you die, people don't make up a
new story. They always say that the hardest job of
a pastor is to try to eulogize an irrelevant or
an inappropriate person because you got to try to make
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up a story, you know what I'm saying, So you're
only gonna speak on who the person is and was.
And in fact, in the case of Charlie Kirk, if
they didn't make him such a martyr, people wouldn't have
Nobody I knew, and I'm talking about I had this
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conversation with aunt's uncles, colleagues, people. I saw people I
don't even really mess with on social media saying who
is Charlie Kirk? They had to go learn who the
mad it was. Y'all made him so big? Right to us?
Y'all did that. We didn't do that right because he
would have been another person whose life was taken in
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a horrific act of violence. By the way, the same
shoe that we saw with Charlie Kirk, I've seen Pooky
and ray reg gets shot like that on the corner too.
So the issue of violence and gun then, and and
and and hate, it's something that is nonpartisan that we
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really could if we wanted to do something about it
as a nation, But they have decided that they're not
going to do anything about it, and it's really ridiculous
that the people who support them will not say a
word even if they know what they see in front
of them is wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, it's it's it's mom blocking, it's I said all
the time. It needs to be studied. I've never seen
levels of delusion that his followers have, like they don't.
They just act like every he could tell them this
guy is purple and they say, yeah, it's purple. You know.
They they will argue you down. They will never see
any flaw in anything the man does. I just have
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never seen anything like it before, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So, you know, and need to do a good job.
They do a good job because they made the title
Trump derangement syndrome. They do a great job at marketing.
We are to start talking about the Trump delusional syndrome
because these people are delusional all the wait this time,
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you can't. Anytime your child goes to school and when
the teacher comes back and report on things that happen,
every single time you say not, my child didn't happen,
can't happen, It never happened, and you defend them. Anytime
you do that, you're actually harming your child.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's always harm to death because those just saying kids
that grow up to be in jail, and then they
got they got a homicide, and you're going to visit
and they still telling you they didn't do it. And
they've been telling you they did it since kindergarten, and
you've been going along with it. Not my child, you
don't afford the teachers, you don't want them. By the
three or four schools, you done have every excuse for
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your child except for your child. And then by the
time it's always too late. You see it in the prison,
in the prison on a visit when your child got
twenty five to light and you still saying your child's
and they need to come home, and you still living
in this delusion. And that's what it's like. It's really
like that. I've never seen nothing, like nothing at all. Oh.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
What I will say though, is that we know we're
not going to get the leadership that we need from
the president, from the vice president, who's also in his
statement that he put out about the woman who was
killed at Brown University, he goes straight to talking about how,
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you know she was a Republican, who was you know,
it's got to be hard to be on a campus
dealing with you know, dealing with or trying to representing
Republican values, conservative values, like what does it happen to
do it anything? So we know we're not going to
get the leadership from there because we can't even get
honesty at all. Like they lie from the time they
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wake up until the time they go to bed. They lie,
and they push propaganda. Because I would have the question
for you, or we would have the question for Donald
Trump if he was sitting right here. Did the son
tell you that he killed the mother and the father
because the father was anti whatever? I don't know what
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the father is it. So did he tell you that?
Where did you get that from? Did he write something?
Where did you get that from? How did you insert
in this that? Now, as it relates to the young
lady who's Republican in Brown University who's killed, where did
you how did her father the person who killed her? Gold?
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They're looking willed it they still have and they by
the way, they arrested a person who wasn't and cash
Hotel went out there. FBI directed to talk about they
had the person in custody and they had to let
the man go. They just doing anything.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, it's it's just it's crazy. And when you talk
about how hard it must be to be a Republicans,
and I asked this question a couple of weeks ago.
I watched Marjorie Taylor Green. You know, as she started
to move away from Trump and she wanted the Epstein files,
and you know, Trump threw her out, the parties moved
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away from her. She started to fear for her life.
Right prior to that, she was anti everything Democrats. She
hated the liberal liberals. She said anything she could. She
disrespected Javeline Crockett, she disrespected President Biden, she disrespected Kamalas.
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She disrespected everybody you can think on the left. Never
did she fear for her life. Never one time did
she said she had depth threats and she was scared
about anything. The minute she he became on the opposite
side of what Maga was, she started feeling for her life.
Just like I watched Cannons owners. Canna always been saying
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the worst ship she could possibly say about black people,
everybody on the left. She hated everybody. She doesn't disrespect
the Michelle Obama, she doesn't respect Karmaa. She done anything
you can name to be disrespectful to everybody. On the left,
she's done it. Never feared for her life the minute
she started talking against what was going on with the
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Republicans and MACGA, she said, she's every day she's talking
about she fears for her life. She don't know how
far she's gonna make it. She doesn't know if this
is going. So if we're the left is such of
the dangerous party, right, if the left is the people
that you need to be scared of, and all of
these things, why as soon as they go opposite of
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MAGA and the Republicans, they fear for their life. I'm
just Bonney, wasn't just scared for their life prior to that?
That brings me to my I don't get it because.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Again I just say one thing about that one as
to your point, now we should know who the dangerous
party is, right? But also I thought y'all said that
the Republicans and the MAGA movement was the party of
free speech. Where you can you can, you can be
free to say what you feel, you can run conspiracy theories,
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you can do all of that. What happened? Where did
it change?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah? Where did it shift? Where do people stop being
able to say? Y'all think had conspiracy theories about the
Left for years and it has been the best thing
in the world. You in the algorithm, you move, when
you're doing everything you possibly can, there's nothing stopping. As
soon as you say something that's in time MAGA, you
don't know if you're gonna make it. Nobody knows that
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they're gonna live as soon as they say something that's ANTIAGA.
And I'm just I'm so confused that if the Left
is the violent party you're doing we call and all
the violence to rhetoric everything, why do y'all get so
scared for your life when you decide to go anti
MACA and anti Republic. I just don't I really don't
understand that. So from my I don't get it. A
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video this happened me laughing like I could not stop laughing.
I was watching hearing where Congressman Bennie Thompson from Mississippi
was questioning the FBI National FBI Director and the director
was telling him that the biggest threat inside of America
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was Antifa. So he asked him, he said, so at
Tifa is the biggest threat and he said yeah, yeah,
it's the biggest trade. He said, so, where's the headquarters
for Antifa, so he was solid. He didn't ask a question.
He said, no, no, you said it's the biggest thress. So
how many members do they have? We are the members, right?
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He said, Well, we're still doing the research. He said,
so you're telling me that you're still doing the research.
You don't know where they are, you don't know how
many members. But you say Antifa is the biggest stretch.
What do you have? What is the intel that you
have that makes Antifa the biggest tract. The man said, well,
you know it's fluid. You you can't really, he said fluid.
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So he said, so you did. He said, sir, I
know you wouldn't come in with no information making a
claim with nothing to back it up. You wouldn't do that.
You wouldn't do that. Well, and the said, but you did,
and I laughed so hard and I for me, I
don't get how these people are able to just make
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up shit, like literally make up shit Antifa. It just
means anti Fascion's not an organization, it's not a prime
it's not it's people that don't want fascism. And y'all
created this fake network and said this is some time
like it's it's antieth is worse than the KKK, It's
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worse than the Proud Boys, who they got to identify
leaders who have done things to harm people who have
done all types of mischief. But you got Antifa that
they ain't got no headquarters, don't got no leader, know nothing,
but y'all just keep throwing it up. And what it
is they do, it's a strategy, right, because what happens
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is you can make anybody Antifa once you say it's Antifa.
So somebody out there protests that we don't like fascism.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Right, they have a sign, you see a sign or
yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
And once and all you and then now you have
them as domestic terrorists just because they protested against something
that they don't like, which they they have the right
to do. And it's it's crazy that we're able to
see this and people act like it's not happening. I
really just don't get how they're able to get away
with doing this shit. Yeah this is the most.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Mind buggle, but it's actually not. And I think that
it's a very simple, a very simple beginning and end.
They're looking for ways to criminalize individuals who push back
against what they are doing and in order to do that,
they have to they are very good at marketing and
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labeling people and things. They've done it from DEI, They've
done it, from Woke, They've done it from Black Lives Matter.
They have they have found a way to make any
turn that was meant for a good for progress and
to expose inequities in the system. They have found a
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way to label it and then turn it around. And
they've done it in in in international politics. Uh. They
did it with from the River to the Sea. Uh.
They update this is and that is in relation to
the Palestinian community. They know how to take words and
create fear around it so that they can get their
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uneducated followers to get behind narratives that takes a lot,
that that will take a person's life right, that demonize
this and OPPRESSUS communities. And they're doing the same thing
with the immigrant community with him calling some Allians, what
do you say is garbage or whatever? Whatever like this.
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This is what they do. So one thing we have
learned is that it's not whether we are morally on
the right side, it's whether or not we have the
skills to market our movement and our messaging. The same
way that these people have found a way to market evilness.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
And that's and that's the thing, and I think I
say all the time, it's really hard, right because when
you look at evil, evil doesn't have a moral compass.
There's no moral compass that goes with it. So whether
it's right or wrong, whether it's even they don't stop,
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they don't follow any rules. And unfortunately, when you have
a moral compass, you know until you you break down
and realize that the game is fixed, right, and you're
trying to play the game right, and you're saying, well,
we're just going to give the people the opportunities. We
wanted to be fair, we wanted to be just, we
wanted to be by the books. And you can't beat
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somebody that's not playing fair. You can't play fair against
somebody that's cheating. You can't play with a hand wrapped
behind your back while somebody else got both feet in
both hands and they stabbing you to death. And you saying, well,
the rules that you're supposed to have one hand behind
your back, But you know that's not the people you
fight against. The people that you the same, the people
that you're in arena with, they not following those rules,
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you know. And unfortunately we can't follow rules that they
not follow us, you know, and we have to. We
got to fight fire with fire. And that's why, you know,
I think we've come to the point now whereas we watch,
you know, people keep saying, you know, Trump showed you
what he could do as a president. And even though
he's going against every ethical anything according to the presidency,
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he wanted against the rules, the laws, everything to be
able to implement things that he wants. And unfortunately, when
we get in our position back, God willing, when we
get our positions back, we have to use the same
power and will it the same way with the same.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, but we won't. The Democrats ain't gonna do a
damn thing, so please they've that it ain't. We're not.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
We won't.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
We'll just walk around looking at the walls, trying to
explain why all the reasons why things can't be done.
And that's the thing that frustrates me. And we can
say that without a doubt that they that we fundamentally, fundamentally,
what we have learned here is that the strategy that
we have right as people, as you said, the liberal community,
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our strategy is way too kind, and we can't win
this way because again, when you're up against a diabolical opponent,
trying to approach it with all the good the nice
niceties is never gonna work, right. And that's the same
thing where we have the conversation about Target boycotting Target
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and other corporations that are not upholding the values that
date that our communities deserve. It's the same thing there
people say, well, what about this and what about that? Yeah,
we know, we understand that there's gonna be casualties, but
just so you know, y'all want to play nice in
a war. So while we over here trying to accommodate everybody,
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every single person's the job and the and the contracts
and the vendors, and we're trying to accommodate all of
that which we want to be able to do, we're
over here with hundreds of thousands of people losing jobs,
loving opportunities, corporations participating in people being disappeared off of
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our streets. We're dealing with corporations that are investing in
further racist policies that harm our communities. Black women again
having a million of us probably more being pushed out
of the workforce. We are in a war here at
the highest level, and folks is like, well, we got
two hundred people that you need a job or need
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a vending a contract, and what we're going to do
about that? And until we realize that we're going to
have to make some sacrifices that are at a high
level to address the war that we're in, I don't
see how how we make it. And so all we
can do is do our part. All we can do
is come to the table and say, hey, we you know,
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y'all want us to go down there to fight bul
Kana and the enemies that are down there, and you
want us to show up unequipped. Now, there was the
strategy of showing up. Excuse me, there was the strategy
of showing up in a nonviolent posture, right. There was
that strategy. But they still showed up. They still showed up,
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and they showed up knowing they didn't go down there
and say, well we can't. We got to cut around
the back street to see if maybe we can we
can get behind them and and find a way to
circumvent what we know is gonna happen. No, they walked
down there and went straight into it and said, we
know they're gonna beat us, but we need them to
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do what they're gonna do so that we can show
the world how bad this situation is. So I you know,
we're walking towards Bulkana, that's what we're doing. And it's
up to people either walk with us, or we can retreat.
And or if some folks can retreat and go back
and sit and say, you know, let's figure out a
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strategy to you know, to trick him and not let
him see us fumbing.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Well, I don't think that strategy has been working. You know,
the strategy that us walking straight down seeing us coming.
And that's what I keep telling you all the time,
is that we we we I'm tired of the mortal victory, right,
I'm tired of saying, you know, we're on the right
side of history, but they keep wiping us out. I
want to be on the right side of the history
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where we win, all right. I want to have a
strategy that we say, Okay, this is how we're going
to win. We're not going to lose all our soldiers
in the war, and we're going we fight with knobs
and they got machine guns, and we go out our humblean.
We say we fight to the death, and we run
in the middle of the field and they give us
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a ceremony and they talk about us thirty and forty
years later and we died right, and we didn't. We
never actually won. Like even if you look at the
movie Glory, the Glory is the end of the movie.
All the black black soldiers, they told them to go first.
We want you to go go first, and you know
it's gonna be major casualties. More than likely you're gonna
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have major cassualties. But we need you to go first
and break down the platoon, you know, break down the brigade.
And it was pretty much just a deaf mission, right.
They sent you on the suicide mission, and we took
the honor of always going on the suicide mash. At
some point the suicide mission is supposed to set it
up so that we actually went right. So we done
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did enough suicide missions for me, I'm ready to actually
win the war, right, I'm ready to figure out we
trojan the horse, how we get in, how we get
in and we keep our power and we maintain and
we get the beloved community. So that's what I'm looking for.
All right, And with that said, we come to the
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Name, New Energy. But what's going on with my son?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm chilling. What's going on with you all as well?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
All as well? It's too cold? America is bugging. It's
too cold in New York City. I don't even know
what to say. It's too cold for my skin.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You just you, You've been really complaining about being cold,
even when it's going from you still cold, like not
even a cold derangement central.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
That way, it has been cold. I feel so sorry
for my little granddaughter, you know, and I don't know why.
And this is what's wrong with the children of today.
The children of today are not going to be well,
let's not say that, but there is a possibility that
they will not be as strong as us. Because we
it was two and three and four years old, as
we have discussed on this show before, and the snow
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was up to the top of our heads and we
had to walk through the little path that they created.
And I'm over here feeling sorry for my granddaughter because
I don't want her to be out in the clat.
I don't want her to experience it. And I want
her to be driven door to door and be warm.
She ain't like snow like I didn't allow it. They
said the parents said they was gonna take a full
(01:26):
plane and the snow, and I say, cold, I don't
want you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Out making snow. Man, kids need experiences, they need those
type of things. We were right to. We sheltered. Like
they'll shut the school down for two or three inches
of snow. We used to have to go to school
when it was five feet of snow, and like you said,
they shoveled a little walkway and you went inside that school.
The snow was covering the windows. You couldn't see outside,
but you was inside that school. They ain't even shut
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no schools down. You know what I'm saying. Super privilege
and catering and not allowing these kids to go through something. Man,
they need to do goosside the snow a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And they also had the Remember we had the snowsuits
and you had to take all of that stuff or
bring your sneakers to school, had to hang everything out.
I don't okay, I mean, I hear you, I guess
you know, you gotta do what you gotta do, and
i'm and you're right and I'm wrong and I get it.
But I like when she's comfy because she's so sweet
(02:22):
and cute. AnyWho, I have been attending multiple retreats and conferences,
and I think it's just important to say, you know
to people who listen to us. And I hear it
all the time. I see people when I'm out traveling,
Folks will say what are we doing? Like are we
what are we doing? Because it is America is out
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of control, off the chain, and people are concerned, and
because folks don't kind of see, you know, a lot
of big convenence, like you know, in the past, you
had the State of the Black Union. You had you know,
big speaches where lots of people would show up in
different spaces, whether it be a big speech by Reverend
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Jesson Jackson, a big you know, conference situation. Not that
conferences are not still happening, but it just seemed like
the information may have been spread widely or more widely,
and even on social media. In the past, we have
had sessions where we kind of laid out like step
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one two three. This is how people need to get involved.
But what we are dealing with at this point is
a very diabolical diabolical not just administration, but people who
support the administration or you know, I saw a mean
today that said I didn't. I didn't. I voted for
the racism, but not the high prices, right. And so
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those people, the people who voted for the racism, knowing
that they are in proximity with us, we either be
real careful about what we share and I you know,
I just want to report for folks that people are
not sitting by doing nothing, saying nothing and you know,
just kind of like not working. Folks are actually very
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very very very much so participating in dialogue strategy around
what we will do on multiple levels. Of course, in
mid time elections coming up, it's very important. It's we
do not have a year. People think of it that way,
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that we have a year, but actually there will be
primaries and right now is the time to start thinking
of your plan, making sure you're registered, making sure other
people around your register. If you are saying to if
you say to me, you meet me in the street
and you say, oh, this scenalary, you know, I'm so
concerned what are we going to do and you haven't
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figured out a plan for how you're going to register
one hundred people in your community. Then you ask for
me the question, and that's cool. What the answer has
to be, how do you activate locally? That's what That's
what it's all about. It's a local game. And this
is not about swing states, because we're not just looking
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for particular states to you know, for in terms of
like a presidential election. This is about the entire nation.
How many people can you move in your local community?
And I'm saying one hundred, but you might be able
to do a thousand people on Saturdays on you know,
just every day that you have time, making sure you're
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out there registering people, making sure they understand the process
and that they get involved. So that's one thing on
the you know, the issue of voter I mean of
the midterm elections. Also how we're going to take care
of one another. You know, there are multiple stories moving
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around about the jobs numbers, and you know, I saw
something the other day in fact, shout out to our
brother Jay Jordan, who works at Reform. He sent me
an article that talks about how women who are formally
incarcerated are like unemployed at about fifty percent. Like that's
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a real high number of women who are for and
so imagine if you have that and then you have
an overall pot of women who are probably a million,
maybe even more, who have also been pushed out of
the workforce just in the last eleven months. And now
the administration is saying that they are not even going
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to release the jobs numbers, so we will not even
see going forward the numbers. So there's a lot happening,
and people are meeting about how we will take care
of one another, what mutual aid looks like, what resources
do we had to ensure that we are hiring within
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if you still have a budget for anything. It's not
about THEI, it's not about black it's not about any
of that. But they are qualified individuals who can be
hired to work those jobs and to take on those contracts.
So there's you know, there's a lot of different conversations happening,
and you know, and I've been sitting in these retreats,
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in these spaces, and i just want to make sure
to articulate to folks that people are not sitting by
doing nothing. People are really with their heads down just
figuring out what are the steps that we have to
take to be able to deal with the time that
we have left with this administration.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, I agree, you know, it's it is difficult. A
lot of people are confused about exactly what's going on.
But you have to be engaged, you know, you have
to make sure that you like you said that you
registered the vote. You have to look at who you
want to be in offers when we're not just being registered,
but looking at the people who are running for office
and see, you know, speak about, Hey, this is what
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we want to see from the people that we elect.
And that's what the problem is a lot of people
have been just aimlessly voting right and not really having
ask you know. That's what we did with the State
of the People told when we went around, we decided
to find out what was wanted by the community, find out, hey,
what do you what do you want to see by
the community, What are the ill in your community, What
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do you think is needed? What kind of resources need
in your community. So therefore, when we're looking at this
midterm election, we have an agenda for our communities. We
have an agenda that we can go and give to
each one of these elected officials and those people who
want our votes to say, are you willing? What? What
are the what part of this? Can you you know,
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guarantee that you're going to fight on behalf of you know,
we can't guarantee that anything is going to happen. We
want people in office that actually have an agenda, that
have the will and actually want to do something different,
because that's the one we'real that we want to do
something different.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Rebuild. We can't rebuild what has always been. Oh no,
we gotta, we.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Gotta, we gotta tell this this, this whole thing is
don't want to shreads, man. I tell people it's not
about partisan that it's about the people, man, And we
really want to be on the side of the people.
You know. I think our communities have been overlooked and
taking it for granted for so long, and that's why
most people are jaded. But I'm one hundred percent sure
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that looking at this administration that people realize that, Okay,
I know that I might have been bad with the
Democrats so this and that and felt like this and that,
but I know, damn well, we can't live like this.
So this is this is out of control.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
You know, it was just thinking about where we are
as you know, in a in a worldwide context, right,
because yeah, this country is certainly we we we've got
some serious issues and I think we all know that.
But the entire world is really, really, really going through
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like a significant crisis. And I'm not suggesting that we
haven't always experienced massacres and murder and you know, and
corruption and violence and all the things, hunger and you know,
(10:22):
I don't think I don't know if we're allowed to
say genocide, maybe it'll be muted out, but that's always happened,
but it seems that we're seeing it all taking place
at one time, from coast to coast, and it's very
very scary when you think about the Congo Haiti, you know,
Sudan and the issues there. And I'm actually going to
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be doing something with the Friends of Congo where we
help to raise money for some of the efforts that
they have going on. And when you think about the
fact that African nations are screaming see us like we're
over here dying as well because our natural resources are
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being stolen. We know about the issues in Nigeria, and
there are many places in African countries, African nations that
are dealing with all types of violence, and it's all
based upon theft and control. People not wanting to allow
Africa and then of course, like we said, Haiti to
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control their own destiny, right like they want to impose
European sanctions if you will across the board and steal
resources and see and European and of course America, we
always in the middle of some shit try, you know,
saying that we're helping people and not really helping people
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at all, and so that's happening. You also have Israel, God,
the Israel and the Palestinians who are absolutely and slaughtered
right and and that's another issue that has been a
part of the dialogue. You also have the horrific killings
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that just took place in Australia where folks who are
celebrating their holiday, the Jewish community celebrating their holiday Tonkah,
they are in in in celebration together. It's a spiritual
time for them. And to have some deranged person full
(12:38):
of hate to go there and murder people, and then
to have a man put his life in jeopardy to
try to stop it. In the irony of that man
being a Muslim man having to say to in that moment,
see humanity and not race, not who is who in
what side politically, but just to know I have to
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do something right now because people are being killed. And
then you come here to America where we are, and
in addition to the day to day to day struggle
that you and others are engaged in trying to keep
our men saying and to reduce violence in our communities,
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we got folks dealing with domestic violence issues we have
in domestic violence and relationships, but also with families. I
keep seeing videos of mothers killing children, father killed the
mother the children I mean, and now the continuation of
these killings that's happening a bitch, mass shootings happening on
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college campuses and now Brown University at least two people
have been killed. That's a lot. That's a lot. It's
a lot. It's a lot. And the idea that all
of it gets wrapped up in political contexts, like you
can't just say I feel so bad about the killing,
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because the next thing, you know, you also into the
conversation around geopolitical politics or you know what the person believed.
And it's a lot, and I can Imagine that there
are people whose mental health is being impacted extremely by
not but by their nervous system not knowing from day
to day what we are, what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, it's it's really a lot when you look at
the news. Sometimes I look at the news because I
want to be informed, but sometimes it's like damn, like
for real again, like when you when you turn on
the news and you I've just seen a young black
boy and he was talking about the brown situation, what
happened there? And he just said he was saying, like,
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you know, we just heard these noises, we didn't know
what was going on. And then you just just understanding,
putting your mind and trying to just identify and just think,
to you, so, what what I do in the situation
like that? Imagine how they must the felt just hearing that.
And then you look at the news, like you said,
you see the man this on the gunman and you
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just see just thinking about that these people are on
the beach and you shooting up a beach. Fifteen people dead,
dozens are injured. It's like, my god, like to have
to constantly see that level with trauma all the time
and know that this is this is the world we
live in, and it's constantly happening. It's overbearing, you know,
and it's overbearing for me. And we've been doing this work. Look,
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we constantly see this happen on a regular basis. We've
been doing this work. You've grown up in this space.
So I understand the average individual who is not you know,
not hasn't been brought up in this and had to
deal with this uncle at this level every day of
his life. You know, for the most part, I can
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imagine what he's thinking and imagining what these kids are thinking.
Our kids are growing up in a time that's just
so dangerous. You got to be scared to send your
kids to school, like people sitting their kids. It's the
school and they not coming home. They dying on the
college campus. Just imagine that. You you raised your kid
up and you send them off to school and they
don't come home, and they lose it like they should
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be getting a higher limiting. You know. We just we're
in some real bad times, man. And I'm praying for
all of the victims, playing for those who are still injured,
who are still alive, you know, I'm praying for the
soul of America.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, absolute, the soul of the world.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We need it.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean absolutely, I agree with you one hundred percent.
It's way. It's over the top. It's over the top,
and it makes you and it makes you have the
second guess, like should I even be bringing kids into
this society, you know, with all of this stuff going on,
because you know, I can't imagine getting a call. It's
funny that every time I get a phone call from
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my granddaughter's parents, I'm stressed just from seeing the phone
number come through. I don't even know what happened. And
it's part in ninety nine point nine percent of the time,
it's just regular stuff. You know, Hey, do you have this?
Can you find that? Or you know, maybe a joke
or something, or hey, did you know you know Grandma
said this, ha ha ha, whatever. But my initial instinct
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is that I'm so concerned that, you know, as to
what might be on the other end of that phone line,
just because of everything that's going on. And that's just
a terrible way for us to operate. And I don't
know how we fix that, you know, I don't know
that there is even a way to fix it. But
what I do know is I don't believe that we
can continue on this path like at this rate of
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intense pressure. I don't see how long this can go on.
And unfortunately we don't have a president who's even who's
helping at all. One thing about Obama, he wasn't perfect
on any on the issues. We can all give our critiques.
You're gonna be you have. You are going to critique
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every president every single time, and probably every elected official
every single time, because they're going to have some blind
spot somewhere or something that you don't agree with, you
feel that they should be doing, and therefore there's always
going to be a critique. So this isn't to say
that President Obama was perfect, but what he was was
(18:17):
a calming spirit he had. Uh. I think I saw
you say something about well you didn't say this about
President Obama, but he exhibited a level of decorm and leadership.
So you at least went to bed thinking, Okay, perhaps
somebody is with some good sense is gonna try to
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negotiate or deal with or address these issues. This what
we're dealing with is a lunatic. I mean, he's literally
a lunatic. There's no way your nervous system can even feel.
You know, it's like having a man in your house
and you come in the house and you you know,
you're like, oh my god. You know today at work,
(19:02):
this one did this to me, and you know, the
kids upset me and I lost my keys and this
and that, and your husband go, oh my gosh, instead
of saying, wow, okay, let's work on solutions and calm
down and let's let's try to figure out how we're
gonna what we're gonna do. You deal with somebody that
gets more crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Than you, and you're dealing with somebody was not well.
That brings me to my teeth comment because this man
like and you know what I've been I've been really
trying to limit them up because I don't really you know,
I wish I didn't have to talk about I wish
he wasn't the president of the United States. I wish
I didn't have to look on the TV and here's
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some of the most outland the ship that he says
and does every day. I wish I just I wish
everything in me wishes that I didn't have to speak
on this. But if I if I don't speak on this,
there are people that actually look for me for information, right,
and it's not gossip. It's not to quote unquote. What
he likes to say is Trump and rage percent and
(20:03):
this is this is what he said today. You know,
one of the great actor and director, Rob Reiner, passed away.
You know, I remember him from All in the Family.
He was meet at. That's all I remember him being
meet at. You know, I was a young kid. I
used to watch All in the Family and he was
It tackled some real race issues. And then there was
(20:27):
a spin off called The Jeffersons, which George Jefferson was
inside of All of the Family. Him and Archie Bunker
would go at it and it was about race. It
was a lot of race issues in there, and it
showed how they both had race issues and Archie Bunker
was a real racist due but they started to learn
each other and they actually started to grow into a friendship.
(20:48):
So it was one of the first shows on TV
that I seen actually tackled that, you know. And then
he moved on and he became a lot more politically
sad he was. He spoke out about a lot of
different things and he passed away and he was actually
I heard he was killed by his child him and
his wife was killed by his child, and Donald Trump
(21:09):
put out a statement saying, a very sad thing happened
last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured, struggling but
once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed
away together with his wife Michelle, reportedly due to anger
he caused others through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction
with mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes
(21:34):
referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven
people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump,
which his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump
administration surpassed all goes in expectations of greatness and with
the Golden Age of America upon us perhaps like never before.
May Rob and Michelle rest in peace. Now, That to
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me was the craziest shit I've ever heard of presidency.
Like I've never seen someone of salm who had supposed
to be a leader get on it, tell get on
his social media and put a message out of about somebody,
a civilian who was killed. I just never seen that.
And the fact that people have normalized this kind of behavior,
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right the fact that people have normalized this kind of behavior.
It's crazy. And then right after that, I mean the
day before that, he was talking about the people who
were murdered in Brown and he just says that things
can happen. You know, it's sad that they lost their life,
the people who lost their life, nine people who are injured,
you know, hope you heal fast, but you know, things happen.
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And I've never seen that type of callousness, the type
of just lack of leadership. And that's always been my
problem with Trump, you know, I just I felt like
he was always just so unqualified, like there was nothing
presidential about anything that he said. Here, you know, people
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have lost their lives as family members, you know, people
are traumatized, and you say things happen, Like, what kind
of leadership is that?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, he has to say that because you know, he's
bought and paid for by the NRA, such as many
of the Democrats and Republicans who hold federal office, who
are people people who are on that level, right, they
are bought and paid for by the National Rifle Association,
(23:33):
And so what the hell else are they going to say?
Because if they if they if they make even a
half of the statement that kind of leans in the
direction of their needing to be reformed. They're needing to
be tougher gun laws that specifically address, you know, limiting
the amount of assault weapons and mass production of guns.
(24:00):
If you even say that a little bit, it adds
seem to what many have been saying for years and
years and years and years, that there has to be
a change in the system. And so what they're doing
is what they do very very well that we could
take a page out of their book on a number
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of issues, is that they are pretty much saying we
are lockstep and key that even if people, even with
casualties in this war, right, we stand where we stand
and we're not gonna waiver, and we're all going to
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be on the same talking points. And so the only
thing I can say is something stupid, especially when when
I know that the uneducated are a large part of
the people who actually follow me and listen to me,
because that's what he said. He said that the uneducated
or under educated or whatever, same damn thing, that they
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love him so and he loves them. So he's talking
to people who he believes to be stupid, and so
he says things can happen, and then you know what,
people sit there and say, well, you know, you know,
you know, well they say, oh yeah, you know, well, hey,
maybe you know things can happen, you know, but at
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least you know, a gas price is a down or
some crazy shit that makes in their mind. They can
make it make sense, you know what I'm saying. And meanwhile, meanwhile,
two people were killed on that campus. One young man
he looks like he might be a Latino descent. I
didn't look up who he is. And then the young
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lady is a young white woman who was actually over
the Republican FUCUS or whatever on the campus. So this
is this is bipartisan. The murders, the dash is bipartisan.
It's not, oh well, only certain people. As much as
you want to, we could sit here and talk about
Charlie Kirk and how awful he was. What happened to
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that man on TV is not acceptable. It's just not
it's crazy. That's something.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But the great thing is, you know, and I've seen
a lot of people saying that today that you couldn't say,
you couldn't utilize Charlie Kirk's words after he was killed.
You couldn't say, well, Charlie Kirk said this without being
chan sued, people losing their job, arrested. You couldn't say,
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you couldn't post what he said. But the Trump can
get on TV, get on social media and say all
this stuff about blah Bryan. You can disrespect that man
minutes after he lost his life and you can say
that and it's okay. But people couldn't say, well, you know,
I didn't agree with Charlie Kirk because he said blah
(26:52):
blah blah. These are now.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Look I want to see. I want to see if
the uneducated file Trump followers, if they are going to
say this is wrong, right. But I'm telling you it's
a cult behavior. It's a cult like behavior where you
can't find anything you could say. What people can sit
(27:15):
and say to Meeka Mallory and my son are Democratic,
whatever they call us. I see them say all kinds
of stuff about we love Democrats, be whatever. But I
can at least run down five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
sometimes fifty things that I have an issue with as
it relates to how the Democrats operate. I never never
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do I hear some of these uneducated Trump followers. I
never hit them say I have a problem with number six, seven,
and eight, nine and ten. They literally make excuses for
everything that he does. And I could sing and tell you, well,
I don't like when Joe Biden did this. I have
(28:00):
an issue with Kambla. Harris on that. I have an
issue with Congressman so and so on this. I can
literally give you ten things off the top of my
head that I've challenged the administration. I've marched against, organized against,
went into rooms and pushed against on certain things. And
most of these people when you say, when you say, well,
(28:23):
what you just mentioned the comparison in the Charlie Kirks scenario,
I've watched some of these people who I know, get
on their social media and say it is wrong to
talk crazy or not even said that's so crazy, but
it is wrong to address Charlie Kirk's racism in the
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midst of you know, in light of his death right
like they said that, Okay, fine, let's say you agree
with that. Let's say you agree with that, which, by
the way, when you die, people don't make up a
new story. They always say that the hardest job of
a pastor is to try to eulogize an irrelevant or
an inappropriate person because you got to try to make
(29:06):
up a story, you know what I'm saying, So you're
only gonna speak on who the person is and was.
And in fact, in the case of Charlie Kirk, if
they didn't make him such a martyr, people wouldn't have
Nobody I knew, and I'm talking about I had this
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conversation with aunt's uncles, colleagues, people. I saw people I
don't even really mess with on social media saying who
is Charlie Kirk? They had to go learn who the
mad it was. Y'all made him so big? Right to us?
Y'all did that. We didn't do that right because he
would have been another person whose life was taken in
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a horrific act of violence. By the way, the same
shoe that we saw with Charlie Kirk, I've seen Pooky
and ray reg gets shot like that on the corner too.
So the issue of violence and gun then, and and
and and hate, it's something that is nonpartisan that we
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really could if we wanted to do something about it
as a nation, But they have decided that they're not
going to do anything about it, and it's really ridiculous
that the people who support them will not say a
word even if they know what they see in front
of them is wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, it's it's it's mom blocking, it's I said all
the time. It needs to be studied. I've never seen
levels of delusion that his followers have, like they don't.
They just act like every he could tell them this
guy is purple and they say, yeah, it's purple. You know.
They they will argue you down. They will never see
any flaw in anything the man does. I just have
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never seen anything like it before, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
So, you know, and need to do a good job.
They do a good job because they made the title
Trump derangement syndrome. They do a great job at marketing.
We are to start talking about the Trump delusional syndrome
because these people are delusional all the wait this time,
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you can't. Anytime your child goes to school and when
the teacher comes back and report on things that happen,
every single time you say not, my child didn't happen,
can't happen, It never happened, and you defend them. Anytime
you do that, you're actually harming your child.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's always harm to death because those just saying kids
that grow up to be in jail, and then they
got they got a homicide, and you're going to visit
and they still telling you they didn't do it. And
they've been telling you they did it since kindergarten, and
you've been going along with it. Not my child, you
don't afford the teachers, you don't want them. By the
three or four schools, you done have every excuse for
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your child except for your child. And then by the
time it's always too late. You see it in the prison,
in the prison on a visit when your child got
twenty five to light and you still saying your child's
and they need to come home, and you still living
in this delusion. And that's what it's like. It's really
like that. I've never seen nothing, like nothing at all. Oh.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
What I will say though, is that we know we're
not going to get the leadership that we need from
the president, from the vice president, who's also in his
statement that he put out about the woman who was
killed at Brown University, he goes straight to talking about how,
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you know she was a Republican, who was you know,
it's got to be hard to be on a campus
dealing with you know, dealing with or trying to representing
Republican values, conservative values, like what does it happen to
do it anything? So we know we're not going to
get the leadership from there because we can't even get
honesty at all. Like they lie from the time they
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wake up until the time they go to bed. They lie,
and they push propaganda. Because I would have the question
for you, or we would have the question for Donald
Trump if he was sitting right here. Did the son
tell you that he killed the mother and the father
because the father was anti whatever? I don't know what
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the father is it. So did he tell you that?
Where did you get that from? Did he write something?
Where did you get that from? How did you insert
in this that? Now, as it relates to the young
lady who's Republican in Brown University who's killed, where did
you how did her father the person who killed her? Gold?
(33:52):
They're looking willed it they still have and they by
the way, they arrested a person who wasn't and cash
Hotel went out there. FBI directed to talk about they
had the person in custody and they had to let
the man go. They just doing anything.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, it's it's just it's crazy. And when you talk
about how hard it must be to be a Republicans,
and I asked this question a couple of weeks ago.
I watched Marjorie Taylor Green. You know, as she started
to move away from Trump and she wanted the Epstein files,
and you know, Trump threw her out, the parties moved
(34:27):
away from her. She started to fear for her life.
Right prior to that, she was anti everything Democrats. She
hated the liberal liberals. She said anything she could. She
disrespected Javeline Crockett, she disrespected President Biden, she disrespected Kamalas.
(34:47):
She disrespected everybody you can think on the left. Never
did she fear for her life. Never one time did
she said she had depth threats and she was scared
about anything. The minute she he became on the opposite
side of what Maga was, she started feeling for her life.
Just like I watched Cannons owners. Canna always been saying
(35:08):
the worst ship she could possibly say about black people,
everybody on the left. She hated everybody. She doesn't disrespect
the Michelle Obama, she doesn't respect Karmaa. She done anything
you can name to be disrespectful to everybody. On the left,
she's done it. Never feared for her life the minute
she started talking against what was going on with the
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Republicans and MACGA, she said, she's every day she's talking
about she fears for her life. She don't know how
far she's gonna make it. She doesn't know if this
is going. So if we're the left is such of
the dangerous party, right, if the left is the people
that you need to be scared of, and all of
these things, why as soon as they go opposite of
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MAGA and the Republicans, they fear for their life. I'm
just Bonney, wasn't just scared for their life prior to that?
That brings me to my I don't get it because.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Again I just say one thing about that one as
to your point, now we should know who the dangerous
party is, right? But also I thought y'all said that
the Republicans and the MAGA movement was the party of
free speech. Where you can you can, you can be
free to say what you feel, you can run conspiracy theories,
(36:25):
you can do all of that. What happened? Where did
it change?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah? Where did it shift? Where do people stop being
able to say? Y'all think had conspiracy theories about the
Left for years and it has been the best thing
in the world. You in the algorithm, you move, when
you're doing everything you possibly can, there's nothing stopping. As
soon as you say something that's in time MAGA, you
don't know if you're gonna make it. Nobody knows that
(36:51):
they're gonna live as soon as they say something that's ANTIAGA.
And I'm just I'm so confused that if the Left
is the violent party you're doing we call and all
the violence to rhetoric everything, why do y'all get so
scared for your life when you decide to go anti
MACA and anti Republic. I just don't I really don't
understand that. So from my I don't get it. A
(37:14):
video this happened me laughing like I could not stop laughing.
I was watching hearing where Congressman Bennie Thompson from Mississippi
was questioning the FBI National FBI Director and the director
was telling him that the biggest threat inside of America
(37:35):
was Antifa. So he asked him, he said, so at
Tifa is the biggest threat and he said yeah, yeah,
it's the biggest trade. He said, so, where's the headquarters
for Antifa, so he was solid. He didn't ask a question.
He said, no, no, you said it's the biggest thress. So
how many members do they have? We are the members, right?
(37:56):
He said, Well, we're still doing the research. He said,
so you're telling me that you're still doing the research.
You don't know where they are, you don't know how
many members. But you say Antifa is the biggest stretch.
What do you have? What is the intel that you
have that makes Antifa the biggest tract. The man said, well,
you know it's fluid. You you can't really, he said fluid.
(38:21):
So he said, so you did. He said, sir, I
know you wouldn't come in with no information making a
claim with nothing to back it up. You wouldn't do that.
You wouldn't do that. Well, and the said, but you did,
and I laughed so hard and I for me, I
don't get how these people are able to just make
(38:45):
up shit, like literally make up shit Antifa. It just
means anti Fascion's not an organization, it's not a prime
it's not it's people that don't want fascism. And y'all
created this fake network and said this is some time
like it's it's antieth is worse than the KKK, It's
(39:06):
worse than the Proud Boys, who they got to identify
leaders who have done things to harm people who have
done all types of mischief. But you got Antifa that
they ain't got no headquarters, don't got no leader, know nothing,
but y'all just keep throwing it up. And what it
is they do, it's a strategy, right, because what happens
(39:26):
is you can make anybody Antifa once you say it's Antifa.
So somebody out there protests that we don't like fascism.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Right, they have a sign, you see a sign or
yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
And once and all you and then now you have
them as domestic terrorists just because they protested against something
that they don't like, which they they have the right
to do. And it's it's crazy that we're able to
see this and people act like it's not happening. I
really just don't get how they're able to get away
with doing this shit. Yeah this is the most.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Mind buggle, but it's actually not. And I think that
it's a very simple, a very simple beginning and end.
They're looking for ways to criminalize individuals who push back
against what they are doing and in order to do that,
they have to they are very good at marketing and
(40:27):
labeling people and things. They've done it from DEI, They've
done it, from Woke, They've done it from Black Lives Matter.
They have they have found a way to make any
turn that was meant for a good for progress and
to expose inequities in the system. They have found a
(40:49):
way to label it and then turn it around. And
they've done it in in in international politics. Uh. They
did it with from the River to the Sea. Uh.
They update this is and that is in relation to
the Palestinian community. They know how to take words and
create fear around it so that they can get their
(41:12):
uneducated followers to get behind narratives that takes a lot,
that that will take a person's life right, that demonize
this and OPPRESSUS communities. And they're doing the same thing
with the immigrant community with him calling some Allians, what
do you say is garbage or whatever? Whatever like this.
(41:33):
This is what they do. So one thing we have
learned is that it's not whether we are morally on
the right side, it's whether or not we have the
skills to market our movement and our messaging. The same
way that these people have found a way to market evilness.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
And that's and that's the thing, and I think I
say all the time, it's really hard, right because when
you look at evil, evil doesn't have a moral compass.
There's no moral compass that goes with it. So whether
it's right or wrong, whether it's even they don't stop,
(42:17):
they don't follow any rules. And unfortunately, when you have
a moral compass, you know until you you break down
and realize that the game is fixed, right, and you're
trying to play the game right, and you're saying, well,
we're just going to give the people the opportunities. We
wanted to be fair, we wanted to be just, we
wanted to be by the books. And you can't beat
(42:37):
somebody that's not playing fair. You can't play fair against
somebody that's cheating. You can't play with a hand wrapped
behind your back while somebody else got both feet in
both hands and they stabbing you to death. And you saying, well,
the rules that you're supposed to have one hand behind
your back, But you know that's not the people you
fight against. The people that you the same, the people
that you're in arena with, they not following those rules,
(43:01):
you know. And unfortunately we can't follow rules that they
not follow us, you know, and we have to. We
got to fight fire with fire. And that's why, you know,
I think we've come to the point now whereas we watch,
you know, people keep saying, you know, Trump showed you
what he could do as a president. And even though
he's going against every ethical anything according to the presidency,
(43:22):
he wanted against the rules, the laws, everything to be
able to implement things that he wants. And unfortunately, when
we get in our position back, God willing, when we
get our positions back, we have to use the same
power and will it the same way with the same.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, but we won't. The Democrats ain't gonna do a
damn thing, so please they've that it ain't. We're not.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
We won't.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
We'll just walk around looking at the walls, trying to
explain why all the reasons why things can't be done.
And that's the thing that frustrates me. And we can
say that without a doubt that they that we fundamentally, fundamentally,
what we have learned here is that the strategy that
we have right as people, as you said, the liberal community,
(44:15):
our strategy is way too kind, and we can't win
this way because again, when you're up against a diabolical opponent,
trying to approach it with all the good the nice
niceties is never gonna work, right. And that's the same
thing where we have the conversation about Target boycotting Target
(44:35):
and other corporations that are not upholding the values that
date that our communities deserve. It's the same thing there
people say, well, what about this and what about that? Yeah,
we know, we understand that there's gonna be casualties, but
just so you know, y'all want to play nice in
a war. So while we over here trying to accommodate everybody,
(44:57):
every single person's the job and the and the contracts
and the vendors, and we're trying to accommodate all of
that which we want to be able to do, we're
over here with hundreds of thousands of people losing jobs,
loving opportunities, corporations participating in people being disappeared off of
(45:19):
our streets. We're dealing with corporations that are investing in
further racist policies that harm our communities. Black women again
having a million of us probably more being pushed out
of the workforce. We are in a war here at
the highest level, and folks is like, well, we got
two hundred people that you need a job or need
(45:41):
a vending a contract, and what we're going to do
about that? And until we realize that we're going to
have to make some sacrifices that are at a high
level to address the war that we're in, I don't
see how how we make it. And so all we
can do is do our part. All we can do
is come to the table and say, hey, we you know,
(46:02):
y'all want us to go down there to fight bul
Kana and the enemies that are down there, and you
want us to show up unequipped. Now, there was the
strategy of showing up. Excuse me, there was the strategy
of showing up in a nonviolent posture, right. There was
that strategy. But they still showed up. They still showed up,
(46:25):
and they showed up knowing they didn't go down there
and say, well we can't. We got to cut around
the back street to see if maybe we can we
can get behind them and and find a way to
circumvent what we know is gonna happen. No, they walked
down there and went straight into it and said, we
know they're gonna beat us, but we need them to
(46:47):
do what they're gonna do so that we can show
the world how bad this situation is. So I you know,
we're walking towards Bulkana, that's what we're doing. And it's
up to people either walk with us, or we can retreat.
And or if some folks can retreat and go back
and sit and say, you know, let's figure out a
(47:08):
strategy to you know, to trick him and not let
him see us fumbing.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Well, I don't think that strategy has been working. You know,
the strategy that us walking straight down seeing us coming.
And that's what I keep telling you all the time,
is that we we we I'm tired of the mortal victory, right,
I'm tired of saying, you know, we're on the right
side of history, but they keep wiping us out. I
want to be on the right side of the history
(47:36):
where we win, all right. I want to have a
strategy that we say, Okay, this is how we're going
to win. We're not going to lose all our soldiers
in the war, and we're going we fight with knobs
and they got machine guns, and we go out our humblean.
We say we fight to the death, and we run
in the middle of the field and they give us
(47:57):
a ceremony and they talk about us thirty and forty
years later and we died right, and we didn't. We
never actually won. Like even if you look at the
movie Glory, the Glory is the end of the movie.
All the black black soldiers, they told them to go first.
We want you to go go first, and you know
it's gonna be major casualties. More than likely you're gonna
(48:18):
have major cassualties. But we need you to go first
and break down the platoon, you know, break down the brigade.
And it was pretty much just a deaf mission, right.
They sent you on the suicide mission, and we took
the honor of always going on the suicide mash. At
some point the suicide mission is supposed to set it
up so that we actually went right. So we done
(48:40):
did enough suicide missions for me, I'm ready to actually
win the war, right, I'm ready to figure out we
trojan the horse, how we get in, how we get
in and we keep our power and we maintain and
we get the beloved community. So that's what I'm looking for.
All right, And with that said, we come to the
end of another episode of Here My thank you for
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