September 4, 2025 • 40 mins
In this episode of TMI, Tamika Mallory and Mysonne discuss the Target Boycott, which has garnered support from the American Federation of Teachers. They explore the significance of this boycott against Target's stance on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). The duo also delves into cultural issues surrounding music in public spaces, particularly the exclusion of hip-hop in favor of 'white-friendly' music at resorts. They discuss the implications of leaked jail phone calls involving prominent rappers like Young Thug and address the challenges of maintaining integrity and staying out of trouble in the public eye. They wrap up with commentary on Cardi B’s legal victory and its broader implications for celebrities facing frivolous lawsuits.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Tamika D.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Mallory and it's your boy my son.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
In general, we are your host of t M I.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, motivation and inspiration.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
New name, New Energy. What's going on, my son, Lennon?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Ain't much to mend how you feeling today? Good? I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Some people say summer's over. But for people like me
with no never no well no no about never, but
it's certainly not over until at least the end of September.
At least I ain't giving it up. So there's that.
But you people who have small children, and people who
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have college students, and people what you say that teach Also,
summer is officially.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Officially when you start when you start seeing the ther
old buses outside and you see the other bus take
clogging the the road and the traffic is what's third.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Online minutes traffic? Oh my god, I'm not looking forward
to that again. But you know, want to report something
that's really really good target. You know, everybody calls me
every day to tell me. Not everybody, let me not
say that. There are many people who cause it encourage
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us to keep going. But there's a group of people
who call all the time to tell me, boycott don't
mean anything. Some of them called to tell me that
Target is the best place in the world. Others, you know,
a bunch of different feedback from people. But I'm proud
to say that the American Federation of Teachers one point
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eight million teachers around the country have decided to join
the boycott. And so they announced that a school is
going back. Now we're going into a new season that
they are now officially joining the Target boycott and they
will be asking their teachers to stand down and don't
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shop at Target. And I'll tell you what's good about that.
First of all, I have to give a big shout
out to Randy Winingarten, who is the president of the
American Federation and Teachers AFT. And I would say, you know,
one of the other things that makes this a real
positive step is that AFT is not just black teachers.
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It's teachers in general, a very diverse group of teachers
and administrators and other people who work in education that
you know are in that space, and they are a
powerful labor union. And so to have them join and
begin to, you know, work alongside those people who are
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continuing to hold corporations accountable and specifically looking at Target.
I think that's a huge I wouldn't say a win,
but it is certainly a motivator to keep going and
to do even more at this point, to continue to
organize the community.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, I think that you guys have really done
an amazing job with the boycott, and it's not an
easy thing to do, and it's always gonna be they say,
it's gonna be people that are so hooked on Target
and hooked on whatever organization and just want to see
people fail. Just they scared to do anything, so they
want to talk you out of it. They don't have
any heart, they don't have any pride in anything, so
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they want to talk you out of it. You know,
it's so many different elements, and it's some people that's
just generally scared because they don't know anything else, and
some people actually have lost and this comes with the sacrifice.
But to see that you guys took the opportunity to
listen to the people. It wasn't that you called the boycott.
The people called the boycott, and you organized around what
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the people do. And that's what leadership is. You know,
it's boycotts are never going to be comfortable, They're not
going to be convenient. You know, when you have to
sacrifice and show somebody that you mean business, it's gonna
hurt everybody, and you have to be willing to sacrifice
and just watching out. Every day more people join up
because they understand the significance of this. If Target doesn't
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have to abide about what it says, then there's nothing.
If you make an obligation and you promise to do
something and you feel like that it's not on the
people to try to take up for you.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
But you see the argument that a lot of people
have is that well they're still doing you know, some
of that stuff, and they would say they're doing all
of it. We've asked some specific questions and also put
forth some serious demands which are on targetfast dot org,
targetfast dot org for anybody who is listening, you know,
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and wants to know more about the specific demands, and
they have not responded to those things. And we've asked,
which I say this on the show all the time,
what is the difference between you Target and other companies
that decided they will remain committed to DEI by name,
to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion by name that they don't
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need to change the name. They don't need to shift
it and tuck it and hide it and put it
around the corner. They are going to remain committed to
it by calling it diversity, equity and inclusion and have
it as a forefront issue. We saw just what a
week before last that Alta, which is a beauty company,
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a beauty brand, that was inside of Target. So they
had the Alta you know, it's like the makeup section
that you've probably never been to, but it's very it's
well lit, and it's beautiful. You know, Target they were partners.
They have ended their partnership with Target, or let me
say it properly because this is what was announced. But
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we know how these statements go. Target and Alta have
now separated and beginning in twenty twenty six, Alta will
not be in Target stores. Now, there are some people
who will say, well, you know, they it was for
different reasons. It was for because they that's kind of
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you know, you know how it goes. They kind of
put out that it's just a difference in the model
and things are you know, they're changing the skull and
changing the way in which they do things, and so
of course they're gonna say that. And but what we
do know after going and looking at Alta's statement of
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their statement of purpose and their business model, that they
are committed to diversity, EPREUNI and inclusion by by name,
and in fact they've made some statements that are very
strong that for them, diversity, equity and inclusion it is
not it's a cornerstone rather of their business. And so
for them to separate from Target in the midst of
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all of this, one can only consider diversity equity and
inclusion issues and the boycott issues as one of the
things that was discussed and probably Target in the meetings said,
you know, we're not let's not let's not you know,
let's not make that a thing, because we still have
this other program and we're doing this and doing that.
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None of the dup so cool. But nonetheless the company
Alta has said something very different and very clear. So
I continuously asked Target, why are you not able to
stand one hundred percent on your diversity, equing and inclusion
as well? What is different about you? And if there's
an answer, they should tell us what the answer is,
but they have been they have not done so get
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the answer is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That they're scared and they aligned with, you know, with
Trump on these values when it comes to d I,
and they wanted cozy up to him and they don't
want to deal with any adverse effect from the magapie.
And that's just the reality of situation. And when you
look at it, you know, we was having this conversation
a few last week and I don't know, we was
talking about Crackerbat and we was talking about how crack
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a bat immediately changed. This is when the people who
they felt like they was beholden to said, no, now
you're gonna put that man back on that box and
that cheer, you know, because that's somebody that we identified.
You're not going to do this d EI. And and
they and they showed who they were loyal to, right,
they showed within a matter of hours that you know,
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we made the decision the base that really supports us,
that we feel as our base are stocked up. Whatever happened,
we want to make sure that we adhere to the
voices of our base. And that's what Target shit. And
the fact that Target can go this long is still
try to high and we even duck and make us
the side ship when we've been the main ship for
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all this time. It's just crazy and and and and
as people with any level of integrity, we can't go
for it, you know. And it hurts because, like you said,
there are a lot of people who.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Are intact, they have contracts, and some people target and
some people just love targeting. And guess what, I know
all about it because I saw something I liked from
Gucci the other day and it was like, damn, you know,
I could have got this was cute, but I don't
wear Gucci anymore. And so I'm one of those people
who falls in the category of just liking the brands
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that I like, and target happen to have been one
of them. At one point, I'll be trying to figure out,
you know, different things, different ways to get the things
that I need because I try to kind of slow
down on ordering from Amazons and all of that and
just try to figure out how to go buy a
ninety nine cent store, how to go to a hardware store,
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how to order directly from vendors, Like you know, it's
a process, but I'm doing it and I'm doing just fine.
And we know a lot of other people who are
doing the same. So as we gear up for the
holiday season. We're going to turn up on our work
around this boycott and the collaboration, like you said, with
the people to stay out of target. Stay out of target.
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People might ask for somebody who's just listening, and it says, well,
why not other corporations. You should boycott anybody you want,
anybody you feel has been disrespectful to you or to
our community, you should definitely do that. For us, we
focused on one particular business at a time. We are
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specifically focused on being able to show how the loss
of revenue from our community will impact the business this
bottom line, and that's what we're focused on. And you
don't get to do that in three months, four months,
five months. Sometimes it takes a year. Sometimes it takes
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a year and a half to be able to really
look at where there were dips and to look at
the revenue over time and know exactly what the power
of you making a decision about your one point eight
trillion dollars in spending Black people one point eight trillion
dollars in spending. So that's where we are. Target boycott continues,
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and we ask you if you are you know, if
you forgot, we're reminding you if you're thinking, well, maybe
I was gonna go, don't worry about it. Target is
not the answer. So there's that. That's all right. Let's
go on to my thought of the day.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Last couple of weeks, I've been traveling around, some work,
some vacation, you know, and it's not really kind of
been since my birthday. I you know, have been you know,
just just paying attention to culture. I guess that's the
way that I was describe it, paying attention to culture.
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And while being in a resort, I was sitting by
myself and I saw I was listening to of course
the music, everything has a techno beat. Even a hip
hop song, they add a techno beat to it, right,
And so obviously that's a strategy to keep the music.
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I don't it's not so much evergreen, because the techno
does apply to somebody. I just don't know who, but
I know it applies to somebody. So, you know, you
hear this mixture because they clearly don't want to play
straight hip hop music. And in talking to so then
I start asking questions and a manager told me that
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they are not allowed to play hip hop music at all, really,
and if they do, it has to be done a
certain way. But then there were all of these songs
that are frictly for white people, write a whole bunch
of white songs, and of course the black people are
just kind of either sitting around or not even hanging
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out in the in the little whatever, the little area,
because there's not the music is not really culturally competent,
like it doesn't it's not culturally relevant. And so when
I was like, damn, so they decided that they won't
play any hip hop music. I guess that jet field
they feel it controls whatever. I don't know what whatever
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it is, drama, violence or whatever, but they will play
white people music. So, as I'm sitting there thinking about this,
I see a white man come down the ramp driving
a little like a you know, for people who was
meant mainly either disabled or elderly, people who cannot walk
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right or they can't they can walk a little bit,
but their drive is like one of those mobility things,
right red whatever. He's coming down a ramp with two
women sitting on his lap. When he gets down into
the area where I was sitting, he ran over somebody's foot,
another a white woman's foot. He wasn't even handicapped because
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he got off the thing and walked around and he's
he's caused all kind of stuff. They had to get
the security, they got to take the lady to get
her foot straight. First of all, he was able to
just walk up to the bar and drink, so they
didn't like say, okay, now you're in trouble and you're
being ejected from the resort. Second of all, he was
not disable. He had no reason to be using. He
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wasn't physically disable. I don't know what maybe in other places,
but he did not have a visible disability. Because after
he left the car over there wherever they made him
get off of it, he went to the bar and
was drinking and doing whatever, and a woman's toe was
ran over And I'm just saying, and maybe she was
somebody he knew, so therefore there was no further action.
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But I'm just trying to understand does that not also
mean and this is really my thought of the day.
Does it is it that it's so kay that white
violence is like less threatening and black violence or black
issues is more threatening? Is that the reason why hip
hop music has been almost removed and if not removed
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has to be added with some type of techno under
under girding. And is it because white violence and white
issues is just easy to deal with because he's a
drunk man who's driving a car is not supposed to be.
He runs over a lady's foot, he's listening to all
the good white music. That stuff doesn't what what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's just there's a narrative that's always been spread. Right
when we talk about you know, black events, black everything,
white events, nobody talks about how you go to during
Saint Patrick's Day, there's a million and one white people fighting, stabbing,
doing all types of stuff at these events.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
They stabbing, yeah, they stabbed.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Hit each other with bole kids, they fight, they do
all types of stuff. Nobody has that conversation. It's one
of the most violent times that white people have. So
when nobody ever has those conversations, you know what I'm saying,
When nobody talks about people dying and rage like white
people rage, people literally die in those rags, they can't
below each other, They killed all types shit. Nobody has
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those conversations. So what it is is we have been,
we have been the narrative that we are the most
violent people has been spread around and if we do
engagement levels of violeus. But it's all about circumstances in
particular places. You know, I don't know anybody just in
these resources that are getting into violence.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm sure that happened, but I met you where I was,
that's not the case. Never, And I mean I noticed
that the culture is that even down to the food,
they make sure that the food is a certain way,
that the taste and the style of it is more
palatable to white communities.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
These things are give toward and that's why we find out.
This is why we end up boycotting certain brands, because
you find out later that the brand was never made
for you. Right as you started making millions and bills
of dollars, the owner of the brand said, well, this
was never for black people. It was it was towards
these people. This is how we created for this people.
We didn't create it for black people to take on.
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And that's how they really feel. So when we go
to results or wherever you go to and you hear
the music, you realize that most of the time, we
we're not the majority of people there, right, And then
when we do have this pretty much even they don't
care they paid. They don't even play to a crowd, right,
they don't even play to crawd. You got fifty people
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in the place, and you got five whites and fifty
people like, hey, you want to hear certain reason they
won't play it because they don't. They're not trying to
play in adhere to what it is that you want.
They're not trying to compensate you, right, they don't want
you to be okay that you're not their target audience.
So we just have to understand that and and just
started going places where we accepted, where we respected, and
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what we acknowledge. Right. Hip hop is probably the biggest
thing in the cultes. It's the biggest genre of music
right now. You know, I will argue, you know, alongside
country music, which is also a big thing, but they're
not playing country music. Techno music ain't big in hip hop.
So the fact that you decided to techno hip hop songs,
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you know, the cater to whoever. It's crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
To make people feel comfortable, I'm not always sure what
the real like. I want to know more. Because of course,
this man wasn't going to get too far into the conversation.
But I found it to be quite interesting that they
their music is literally I didn't. I mean, I might
have heard a fifty cent song, but it still had techno.
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It still had techno. So it's an interesting dynamic. Just's
something to think about. Is again my thoughts of day
is a question that is white violence and white issues
at these resorts and on the ships.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And that's why I feel sorry for the drill rappers
because y'all never gonna get played nowhere outside of y'all
little city, because they're not gonna play that shit. It's
just not gonna get played because the hip hop itself
has already been casted into this violent realm and it
gives a certain feel. So and I think it actually
comes from the drill music that they say, you know, well,
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we don't want hip hop because they start hearing that
type of shit that music has never I have never
heard drill music get played outside of the Burroughs and
the most you know, black inner city communities. They don't
come outside. It's not coming outside. So y'all better figure
something out. You better figure out how you're gonna make,
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you know, a transition to music that actually can we
have a universal sound and a universal pill, you know,
because only the hip hop artist, the elder hip hop
it is the elder stasman who got the saws? Did
they remember from high school? You know? And they figured
out they're gonna throw a techno beat. They ain't throwing
no techno beating on drill saw. So yeah, I better
figure it out. M M.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
But today TM, I, let's talk about this trial that
Carti B Has successfully been cleared, you know from the charges.
So I started just listening in and watching you know whatever,
and watching what I could find and reading just to
kind of of course, just being interested. And I said
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from several days ago when the administrator from the office
administrator and then also the doctor when they but first
of all, when the office administrator testified that Carti did
not hit the other young lady, miss Ellis, that you
know they were it was definitely heeded. They was yelling
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back and forth, but that she was unable to calm
miss Ellis down right like she was like you know,
she was trying to tell her like got to back up,
gotta calm calm down. That day, I said, Carty's gonna
win this case, right because you have a witness there.
Dad works in the office, who's clearly saying no, it
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didn't happen, and she's using certain language, which I think
she was using because it was just the truth. Dad.
She had to try to like get this lady, you know,
the security guard, to calm down. As I think the
TMI today is are these people Because Carti says something
when she was giving her speech at the end, you know,
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you know, outside the courthouse, lord had mercy. It's not
an acceptance speech, but I can't figure out exactly what
to call it. So at the press conference afterwards, she said,
I'm gonna sue the next person. It'll be nice this time,
but I'm gonna sue the next person. I'm like, counter
sue them and make them pay. Because of these frivolous lawsuits,
people think that celebrity are just supposed to pay up whatever,
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and that most celebrities are going to settle. And I
was just you know, twenty four million dollars. I'm thinking
that for some people they might say, hey, Carti is
a celebrity. If you get into an argument or any
type of altercation outside verb war, otherwise you have to
be subject to these big lawsuits again. Twenty four million dollars.
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And I'm just wondering for people who paid attention that
the doctor came out and said he did not see
any scars. He did not see this young lady hit
by Carti. The other young lady who's the office administrator,
says she got hit in her face because the security
guard hit her. And I'm just wondering, like for people,
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are they feeling like, you know, it is what it is,
it's fair game because you're a celebrity and you have
a lot of money, or do folks feel that what
has happened here is just ridiculous because I think that
the girl even asking and having her mother to testify,
trying to say, you know, I believe my daughter, all
of that, it's just so traumatizing. It just seems so
crazy to me. And I never thought she was going
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to win this case.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I mean I didn't. I don't put anything past anybody.
We're in we're in times when people are hungry, they
start and they're trying to come up. People try to
get lawsuits every day, and this lady was no difference.
She's seen Cardi. You know, Cardi has a reputation of
quote unquote being violent because she's getting to fight publicly
and they've seen it, and she figured she could convince
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a jury or somebody to give them. Somebody or Carli
would just cop out, because what they say is that
for the most part, that most people wanna cop out
because it's more expensive to fight, that you gotta pay
these lawyers. Why not just cop out? And that's what
most people do. They figure people wanna cop out. I'm
glad that Cardi has taken a stance that she's like, no,
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I'm not gonna just cop out. I got a family
that will cost more money, and I'm not just giving
y'all hour work. No, I'm not making and not giving
your money. I'm going to count a suit and to
make sure you don't have nothing. You know, she already
did it to what's the lady's name.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh lord, oil boyd any rate a blogger. I can't
get your names already.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So you know, Carty has been successful at these lawsuits.
You know, she's been constantly making sure that she stands
up for herselfs and I love it. You know, BX
how Grid to.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
The death, Well then there's that. So but the T
and I, y'all, we want you to hit us up
and tell us do you think that these lawsuits for
celebrities are fair game or do you feel that what
happened to Cardi the fact that she missed her children's
first day of school, the last week of school, the
last week of summer of vacation, she missed all of
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that to be in court for a twenty four million
dollar lawsuit where half the people testified for Carti or
not so much for her, but just in her favor.
I just think that it's ridiculous, and I agree with
you minds that somebody need to be.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Sued, so everybody.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It's not everybody, because everybody means everybody means that they
can sue us too. So we are still in the
midst of the summer break, people sort of getting back
to reality. Lots happening Washington, d C. Next week, we
plan to have some folks on this show to talk
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about everything that has happened with the military occupation by
the Trump administration in Washington, d C. We're gonna be
talking with some folks who are very close to the
details of the things that's happening in the city, trying
to understand more about what Mayor Muriel Bowser has been
talking about because you know, I'm confused. Maybe I'm not confused.
(25:51):
I understand that DC does not have this statehood, and
so I'm clear that, you know, because of that, it
puts the mayor in a different situation. But the tone
that she's taken is a tone that I think is
pretty dangerous. I've been watching on the media in the
media in the last couple of days as people try
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to make the case for why she should why other
cities should just be open to occupation, to military occupation.
They are now using Mayor Browser's statements and her tone
as a defense for them, and I think that's pretty dangerous. So,
you know, we will, we'll hear from these folks to
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learn more. And then we've got guests that are coming up.
You know, folks are getting back and they're ready to talk.
You know, I've been getting all these text messages and
emails from people asking to get on the show to
talk about a number of issues. People pissed off about
everything easy bad, the airbnb, the you know, people feel
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racial discrimination. Folks are they have new products, new books,
new so serviss folks trying to you know, really get
their their businesses off. The ground, so it is so
much to cover. And when we get on the other
side of this week and a couple more weeks, we're
going to get back into bringing you some of the
most talented, educated, passionate guests that we can possibly offer,
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people that are in our network. But if you have
folks that you want us to talk to, please send
us a d M, send us some information somehow buried
the plane, and just let us know that. You know,
you have folks that you want to hear from that
you think we should have on the TMI show.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yep, let us know. So for my I don't get
it today. You know, all week there has been a
series of just phone conversations dropping that allegedly that young
thug was on the phone with this one twenty one
savage with all types of people I can't even name
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all the people supposed to talking to in about And
for my I don't get it right, whether it's true
or not, I don't know why people still talk on
the jail phone, Like this is the craziest thing to
me since you know, I got locked up in the
late nineties and it was always told do not talk
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on the jail. Now every couple of months something. You
hear conversations that people are having on the jail phone
and they just shouldn't be having, Like it just doesn't
make sense. Even if you had in Dinny's case, they
was on the phone having conversation, they don't dropped probably
like fifteen conversations that your thugies happen. It's just like,
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I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Think they did that bad, but then again we won't know.
And so because this is I mean, you know, I've
made a comment before that I'm trying to understand who
is releasing these audios.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Oh, they defense is released. It's people that's inside those
places that can't be really traced because a lot of
those officers they sit there and listen to your phone call,
especially when your name comes up. They can literally listen
to your fall call, so they can just pretty much
have their phone they tapement in your conversation. Literally just
take me your yourself for that. I mean, that's what
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I'm trying to tell you. That the jail has its
own set of rules. The officers in there are crooked,
they trying to make money. The drugs get in there.
Because the officers bringing drugs in there, there's no pridy
that's locked up, just bringing drugs inside the facility. So
I'm just trying to tell you everything that goes on
these offices are all the way involved in, you know.
(29:36):
So that's why I'm so confused that why are y'all
still talking on the jail phone? Like what are you? Like?
I remember who was it? It was five year old farmer.
Five year old farm was before he had got out.
He just came home.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I hope he was able to deep socks and get love.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
We got a lot of love. Five year said something
out and I had to hit them like come on,
buck fabio and see these young boys that you know
from the Bronx was beefing and they was beefing on
the jail phone. Like they was on the jail phone
making songs, this making dissauce about each other over the
jail phone, talking about who did this? Who didn't do that?
(30:19):
Won't you not that? You know? Good? Like that? I
said to myself, how do they think this makes sense?
And finally was like, yo, I'm all for the beef
over the jail phone. That this songs over the jail phone,
I'm with that. And I'm like, how did we get
to a point will we start making sense over basically
telling on yourself. Just it don't make sense. Even when
(30:41):
if you in jail for murder, attempted murder, shot somebody
this and that, and you talking about violence on the
phone against the people you're supposed to have beef with,
that that one of their people is the person you
supposed to shot, It just doesn't make sense, you know
what I'm saying. So even when I'm listening to these conversations,
I'm like him, I hope these conversations is fake. That
(31:02):
does is that? Like? What do you have in conversations
about anything on these jail phones? For anything? You're not
gonna tell them people you shouldn't be telling on your phone.
You know, I don't know what. I don't know who's who.
I don't know who's snitches. I don't know. But I
told people on my post today that everybody is snitch
and people old everybody in stitching. My man held it down.
(31:23):
My man is one hundred, my man did thirty, my
man did forty years. And I said, your man is
the zero point one percent. I want you to if
you are outside right now and you're thinking about engaging
in a legal activity with somebody else. Assume that he
is a rat, because by the time you find out
(31:43):
he is, it's gonna be too late and about fakes
and abandoned that mission. I'm just telling you right now
because everybody that I know that got ratted on and
told on it was by somebody that they didn't believe
would tell them if somebody called him brother, Like we
just seen with a man's father, the toll on they
got in life a person. So see if your father
(32:04):
tells me, it's nobody that you could put in us.
So I'm just my thing is your man might be
the most solid person, or he might be solid. He
might have been solid, he might have did ten for
another person, he might defive all of this shit. By
the time you find out he ain't solid for you,
it's gonna be too late. So I'm saying, assume that
everybody is a rat. Stay out the streets, get out
(32:26):
the game. It is completely over. There's no loyalty, there's
no honor, no integrity. Nobody celebrates that. No, most of
these people don't care about that. They care about their
self preservation. When it comes to these streets, it's about
self preservation. Everybody is gonna choose they self over you
or nine point ninety nine that one person. Nobody talks
(32:51):
about them. They sitting them out as mad. They got
forty fifty years, they never come home. And they did
it for people who in there put two dollars was
on their books. Don't be, don't be none of those people.
Don't be the nigga that sit and sell for a
nigga that wouldn't put two thousands of your books. And
don't be a nigga that's sitting and sell. I mean
that find out late that somebody told that the person
(33:13):
he thought was silent was a rat.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Well there's that stay off from.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Jail phones, man, because them jail phones is they him?
And y'all up? Man, I'm telling they say. The people that.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Don't I still think they need to go to jail.
But I think anybody is cr No. I think if
anybody is caught taping.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
But the conversation, I don't know. Do they become public afterwards?
We have to look into the domain. It's can your conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
They was leading young thugs conversations.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
While they let you know when you get on the phone.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
They said, I get that it should be that's it.
It should be monitored. It should not be leaked.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
They said it can be.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You should be able to have a private conversation. What
you man the same as you're saying. But I'm just
trying to tell you that I feel like you should
be able to have a private conversation with your family
members and whomever else it is, and it not be leaked.
They need to come up with a system for ensuring
that the conversations can't be leaked because it's encrypted. It's
(34:18):
something something, something that goes to a very small bubble
of people who are responsible. I'm just saying, because you
you should listen. Your mother's dying, your mag in the park,
your dad is, you know, going through something. You should
be able to have those conversations. You should be able
to talk to your adopted, to talk to whoever it
(34:38):
is that you need to talk to, and it should
not be leaked. I don't care what they're saying. They
could be snitch and telling doing I don't care. It
should well, I think that it's not right and nobody's
gonna do anything about it because and I'm thinking to myself,
I don't even pay attention to what's going on with
young Doug and this one and little who and blat
(35:00):
of line, none of that stuff. I don't this not
in my universe. But when it saw on my timeline,
that's crazy that at least five or six times I
saw something this one said this about that one said
this and that in the third and the only I
only have two particular points. The first point is that
I don't know exactly who said what did was saying who?
(35:22):
But I know young thugs better go somewhere and sit down,
That's what I know. Because them people are just waiting
on the brother to make the wrong move, get into
the wrong thing. And people told me came associate with
folks who have felony convictions and other people that's out
here doing stuff and being and you are here going
back and forth. And then the other guy saw he said,
wooty woody what he somebody? He said, he is a
(35:45):
law bidy citizen. So already these people are setting up
their place to be able to disassociate themselves. And then
you know what's gonna happen. Young Doug will be back
in jail after after being able to secure and epic
win and epic win. It's like the idea that this
man didn't have to do any time, and bab, I mean, well,
(36:09):
I'm sorry any more time, yes, right, but I'm talking
about what they when he was up against right, because
I'm just thinking, Okay, this man has been afforded a
massive blessing. Okay, it could have been a completely different situation.
What if I was given if I was advising, and
(36:29):
I'm sure it's people around who's doing that. You know what,
I would learn how to do golf, some tennis, some whatever,
even in basketball, I don't care what it isbe maybe
you gotta figure out something else, because this see a
thing right here, this back and forth now, because the
(36:51):
whole purpose of these people leaking little bits of information
here there is too they leaking certain things. Why not
when he was talking to us, mother, father, whoever. No,
they're leaking certain things for a purpose. And this is
when he has to lock in in his mind that
no matter what, I'm not gonna let you trick me
(37:13):
out of what this this blessing that God has bestowed
upon me and everybody else's little baby. I heard his
name up there, this person in that prison. You know
what they should do. They should just say whatever you said,
you said, I don't fuck with you, you don't fuck with me.
That's it. That's it, that's it. Walk the other way
because otherwise, you know what. Guess what old finding them
and these other prosecutors in the neighboring areas. Guess what
(37:36):
they're doing. They sitting around listening to see if there's
any new indictments that they can get off the tapes.
Can they get a little bit of this? Can they
get over all the unless watch the social media and see.
That's why that guy said I'm a law bidy citizen
because he already thought of people screenshot and cutting it
up and putting this word with this word, and this
thing with that. And now they're gonna be on a
whole new surveillance. That's it. That's how it goes. So
(37:59):
I pray and you don't. May maybe they gonna get
it together. But it's very scary to me because I
thought they got a bless.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Listen, man, everybody's awry and the face can't wait to
get you. And if you're playing around with them people,
you keep on playing around, they're gonna get you. They
only got to catch you one time. They gotta let
you keep on, you know, and you find out that
water is wet and finally it is hot, you know,
so hopefully don't get it. Hopeful everybody get it. Man,
(38:28):
don't let them people do, because them people will trick
your ass out of your freedom forever. Wet as hell.
People find out what you find out what the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
It's not funny, it's not funny. It's very serious. I'm
over here, word about it, and this ain't even my
not in my wheelhouse. And I'm concerned because it makes sense.
Stay out the way, out the way.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
And with that said, that brings it to the end
of another episode of TMM. We appreciate y'all continue to
follow us. Next week. You want to have a real
dope episode to be Washington, DC.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
S foosed to talk about what has been happening there
with the occupation and Mario Bowser, and we're gonna get
into some real serious details. I want to talk to
the people who feel like they understand her position, not
just all the people who are saying because I'm with it. Yeah,
I'm with the people that don't understand. So I but
I but I want to hear from other people because
(39:30):
I like to grow, I like to get smarter, I
like to deepen my understanding. I don't want to just
sit in my frustration on my decision that I don't
like something you did or something you said. I'm willing.
I'm willing to expand. I'm willing to expand. So that's
what i want to do.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I'm not mad at the expansion, but it's certain things
that this not gonna make sense. I'll just trust the
words you you or how you saying to me, So
I'm cool with all that. But if you say some
bullshit to me, just because you put syrup on it,
it don't make it panky, you know. So with that said,
I'm not gonna always be right to me get the man,
which is I conna always be wrong. We will both
(40:07):
always and I mean always be authentic. That
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Ain't much to mend how you feeling today? Good? I'm good.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Some people say summer's over. But for people like me
with no never no well no no about never, but
it's certainly not over until at least the end of September.
At least I ain't giving it up. So there's that.
But you people who have small children, and people who
(00:41):
have college students, and people what you say that teach Also,
summer is officially.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Officially when you start when you start seeing the ther
old buses outside and you see the other bus take
clogging the the road and the traffic is what's third.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Online minutes traffic? Oh my god, I'm not looking forward
to that again. But you know, want to report something
that's really really good target. You know, everybody calls me
every day to tell me. Not everybody, let me not
say that. There are many people who cause it encourage
(01:20):
us to keep going. But there's a group of people
who call all the time to tell me, boycott don't
mean anything. Some of them called to tell me that
Target is the best place in the world. Others, you know,
a bunch of different feedback from people. But I'm proud
to say that the American Federation of Teachers one point
(01:42):
eight million teachers around the country have decided to join
the boycott. And so they announced that a school is
going back. Now we're going into a new season that
they are now officially joining the Target boycott and they
will be asking their teachers to stand down and don't
(02:05):
shop at Target. And I'll tell you what's good about that.
First of all, I have to give a big shout
out to Randy Winingarten, who is the president of the
American Federation and Teachers AFT. And I would say, you know,
one of the other things that makes this a real
positive step is that AFT is not just black teachers.
(02:27):
It's teachers in general, a very diverse group of teachers
and administrators and other people who work in education that
you know are in that space, and they are a
powerful labor union. And so to have them join and
begin to, you know, work alongside those people who are
(02:48):
continuing to hold corporations accountable and specifically looking at Target.
I think that's a huge I wouldn't say a win,
but it is certainly a motivator to keep going and
to do even more at this point, to continue to
organize the community.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, I think that you guys have really done
an amazing job with the boycott, and it's not an
easy thing to do, and it's always gonna be they say,
it's gonna be people that are so hooked on Target
and hooked on whatever organization and just want to see
people fail. Just they scared to do anything, so they
want to talk you out of it. They don't have
any heart, they don't have any pride in anything, so
(03:27):
they want to talk you out of it. You know,
it's so many different elements, and it's some people that's
just generally scared because they don't know anything else, and
some people actually have lost and this comes with the sacrifice.
But to see that you guys took the opportunity to
listen to the people. It wasn't that you called the boycott.
The people called the boycott, and you organized around what
(03:48):
the people do. And that's what leadership is. You know,
it's boycotts are never going to be comfortable, They're not
going to be convenient. You know, when you have to
sacrifice and show somebody that you mean business, it's gonna
hurt everybody, and you have to be willing to sacrifice
and just watching out. Every day more people join up
because they understand the significance of this. If Target doesn't
(04:09):
have to abide about what it says, then there's nothing.
If you make an obligation and you promise to do
something and you feel like that it's not on the
people to try to take up for you.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
But you see the argument that a lot of people
have is that well they're still doing you know, some
of that stuff, and they would say they're doing all
of it. We've asked some specific questions and also put
forth some serious demands which are on targetfast dot org,
targetfast dot org for anybody who is listening, you know,
(04:43):
and wants to know more about the specific demands, and
they have not responded to those things. And we've asked,
which I say this on the show all the time,
what is the difference between you Target and other companies
that decided they will remain committed to DEI by name,
to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion by name that they don't
(05:04):
need to change the name. They don't need to shift
it and tuck it and hide it and put it
around the corner. They are going to remain committed to
it by calling it diversity, equity and inclusion and have
it as a forefront issue. We saw just what a
week before last that Alta, which is a beauty company,
(05:25):
a beauty brand, that was inside of Target. So they
had the Alta you know, it's like the makeup section
that you've probably never been to, but it's very it's
well lit, and it's beautiful. You know, Target they were partners.
They have ended their partnership with Target, or let me
say it properly because this is what was announced. But
(05:47):
we know how these statements go. Target and Alta have
now separated and beginning in twenty twenty six, Alta will
not be in Target stores. Now, there are some people
who will say, well, you know, they it was for
different reasons. It was for because they that's kind of
(06:08):
you know, you know how it goes. They kind of
put out that it's just a difference in the model
and things are you know, they're changing the skull and
changing the way in which they do things, and so
of course they're gonna say that. And but what we
do know after going and looking at Alta's statement of
(06:29):
their statement of purpose and their business model, that they
are committed to diversity, EPREUNI and inclusion by by name,
and in fact they've made some statements that are very
strong that for them, diversity, equity and inclusion it is
not it's a cornerstone rather of their business. And so
for them to separate from Target in the midst of
(06:51):
all of this, one can only consider diversity equity and
inclusion issues and the boycott issues as one of the
things that was discussed and probably Target in the meetings said,
you know, we're not let's not let's not you know,
let's not make that a thing, because we still have
this other program and we're doing this and doing that.
(07:13):
None of the dup so cool. But nonetheless the company
Alta has said something very different and very clear. So
I continuously asked Target, why are you not able to
stand one hundred percent on your diversity, equing and inclusion
as well? What is different about you? And if there's
an answer, they should tell us what the answer is,
but they have been they have not done so get
(07:34):
the answer is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That they're scared and they aligned with, you know, with
Trump on these values when it comes to d I,
and they wanted cozy up to him and they don't
want to deal with any adverse effect from the magapie.
And that's just the reality of situation. And when you
look at it, you know, we was having this conversation
a few last week and I don't know, we was
talking about Crackerbat and we was talking about how crack
(07:57):
a bat immediately changed. This is when the people who
they felt like they was beholden to said, no, now
you're gonna put that man back on that box and
that cheer, you know, because that's somebody that we identified.
You're not going to do this d EI. And and
they and they showed who they were loyal to, right,
they showed within a matter of hours that you know,
(08:18):
we made the decision the base that really supports us,
that we feel as our base are stocked up. Whatever happened,
we want to make sure that we adhere to the
voices of our base. And that's what Target shit. And
the fact that Target can go this long is still
try to high and we even duck and make us
the side ship when we've been the main ship for
(08:39):
all this time. It's just crazy and and and and
as people with any level of integrity, we can't go
for it, you know. And it hurts because, like you said,
there are a lot of people who.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Are intact, they have contracts, and some people target and
some people just love targeting. And guess what, I know
all about it because I saw something I liked from
Gucci the other day and it was like, damn, you know,
I could have got this was cute, but I don't
wear Gucci anymore. And so I'm one of those people
who falls in the category of just liking the brands
(09:12):
that I like, and target happen to have been one
of them. At one point, I'll be trying to figure out,
you know, different things, different ways to get the things
that I need because I try to kind of slow
down on ordering from Amazons and all of that and
just try to figure out how to go buy a
ninety nine cent store, how to go to a hardware store,
(09:36):
how to order directly from vendors, Like you know, it's
a process, but I'm doing it and I'm doing just fine.
And we know a lot of other people who are
doing the same. So as we gear up for the
holiday season. We're going to turn up on our work
around this boycott and the collaboration, like you said, with
the people to stay out of target. Stay out of target.
(10:00):
People might ask for somebody who's just listening, and it says, well,
why not other corporations. You should boycott anybody you want,
anybody you feel has been disrespectful to you or to
our community, you should definitely do that. For us, we
focused on one particular business at a time. We are
(10:20):
specifically focused on being able to show how the loss
of revenue from our community will impact the business this
bottom line, and that's what we're focused on. And you
don't get to do that in three months, four months,
five months. Sometimes it takes a year. Sometimes it takes
(10:42):
a year and a half to be able to really
look at where there were dips and to look at
the revenue over time and know exactly what the power
of you making a decision about your one point eight
trillion dollars in spending Black people one point eight trillion
dollars in spending. So that's where we are. Target boycott continues,
(11:06):
and we ask you if you are you know, if
you forgot, we're reminding you if you're thinking, well, maybe
I was gonna go, don't worry about it. Target is
not the answer. So there's that. That's all right. Let's
go on to my thought of the day.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Last couple of weeks, I've been traveling around, some work,
some vacation, you know, and it's not really kind of
been since my birthday. I you know, have been you know,
just just paying attention to culture. I guess that's the
way that I was describe it, paying attention to culture.
(11:50):
And while being in a resort, I was sitting by
myself and I saw I was listening to of course
the music, everything has a techno beat. Even a hip
hop song, they add a techno beat to it, right,
And so obviously that's a strategy to keep the music.
(12:14):
I don't it's not so much evergreen, because the techno
does apply to somebody. I just don't know who, but
I know it applies to somebody. So, you know, you
hear this mixture because they clearly don't want to play
straight hip hop music. And in talking to so then
I start asking questions and a manager told me that
(12:36):
they are not allowed to play hip hop music at all, really,
and if they do, it has to be done a
certain way. But then there were all of these songs
that are frictly for white people, write a whole bunch
of white songs, and of course the black people are
just kind of either sitting around or not even hanging
(12:58):
out in the in the little whatever, the little area,
because there's not the music is not really culturally competent,
like it doesn't it's not culturally relevant. And so when
I was like, damn, so they decided that they won't
play any hip hop music. I guess that jet field
they feel it controls whatever. I don't know what whatever
(13:20):
it is, drama, violence or whatever, but they will play
white people music. So, as I'm sitting there thinking about this,
I see a white man come down the ramp driving
a little like a you know, for people who was
meant mainly either disabled or elderly, people who cannot walk
(13:44):
right or they can't they can walk a little bit,
but their drive is like one of those mobility things,
right red whatever. He's coming down a ramp with two
women sitting on his lap. When he gets down into
the area where I was sitting, he ran over somebody's foot,
another a white woman's foot. He wasn't even handicapped because
(14:06):
he got off the thing and walked around and he's
he's caused all kind of stuff. They had to get
the security, they got to take the lady to get
her foot straight. First of all, he was able to
just walk up to the bar and drink, so they
didn't like say, okay, now you're in trouble and you're
being ejected from the resort. Second of all, he was
not disable. He had no reason to be using. He
(14:29):
wasn't physically disable. I don't know what maybe in other places,
but he did not have a visible disability. Because after
he left the car over there wherever they made him
get off of it, he went to the bar and
was drinking and doing whatever, and a woman's toe was
ran over And I'm just saying, and maybe she was
somebody he knew, so therefore there was no further action.
(14:51):
But I'm just trying to understand does that not also
mean and this is really my thought of the day.
Does it is it that it's so kay that white
violence is like less threatening and black violence or black
issues is more threatening? Is that the reason why hip
hop music has been almost removed and if not removed
(15:15):
has to be added with some type of techno under
under girding. And is it because white violence and white
issues is just easy to deal with because he's a
drunk man who's driving a car is not supposed to be.
He runs over a lady's foot, he's listening to all
the good white music. That stuff doesn't what what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's just there's a narrative that's always been spread. Right
when we talk about you know, black events, black everything,
white events, nobody talks about how you go to during
Saint Patrick's Day, there's a million and one white people fighting, stabbing,
doing all types of stuff at these events.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
They stabbing, yeah, they stabbed.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Hit each other with bole kids, they fight, they do
all types of stuff. Nobody has that conversation. It's one
of the most violent times that white people have. So
when nobody ever has those conversations, you know what I'm saying,
When nobody talks about people dying and rage like white
people rage, people literally die in those rags, they can't
below each other, They killed all types shit. Nobody has
(16:20):
those conversations. So what it is is we have been,
we have been the narrative that we are the most
violent people has been spread around and if we do
engagement levels of violeus. But it's all about circumstances in
particular places. You know, I don't know anybody just in
these resources that are getting into violence.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm sure that happened, but I met you where I was,
that's not the case. Never, And I mean I noticed
that the culture is that even down to the food,
they make sure that the food is a certain way,
that the taste and the style of it is more
palatable to white communities.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
These things are give toward and that's why we find out.
This is why we end up boycotting certain brands, because
you find out later that the brand was never made
for you. Right as you started making millions and bills
of dollars, the owner of the brand said, well, this
was never for black people. It was it was towards
these people. This is how we created for this people.
We didn't create it for black people to take on.
(17:23):
And that's how they really feel. So when we go
to results or wherever you go to and you hear
the music, you realize that most of the time, we
we're not the majority of people there, right, And then
when we do have this pretty much even they don't
care they paid. They don't even play to a crowd, right,
they don't even play to crawd. You got fifty people
(17:43):
in the place, and you got five whites and fifty
people like, hey, you want to hear certain reason they
won't play it because they don't. They're not trying to
play in adhere to what it is that you want.
They're not trying to compensate you, right, they don't want
you to be okay that you're not their target audience.
So we just have to understand that and and just
started going places where we accepted, where we respected, and
(18:04):
what we acknowledge. Right. Hip hop is probably the biggest
thing in the cultes. It's the biggest genre of music
right now. You know, I will argue, you know, alongside
country music, which is also a big thing, but they're
not playing country music. Techno music ain't big in hip hop.
So the fact that you decided to techno hip hop songs,
(18:26):
you know, the cater to whoever. It's crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
To make people feel comfortable, I'm not always sure what
the real like. I want to know more. Because of course,
this man wasn't going to get too far into the conversation.
But I found it to be quite interesting that they
their music is literally I didn't. I mean, I might
have heard a fifty cent song, but it still had techno.
(18:52):
It still had techno. So it's an interesting dynamic. Just's
something to think about. Is again my thoughts of day
is a question that is white violence and white issues
at these resorts and on the ships.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And that's why I feel sorry for the drill rappers
because y'all never gonna get played nowhere outside of y'all
little city, because they're not gonna play that shit. It's
just not gonna get played because the hip hop itself
has already been casted into this violent realm and it
gives a certain feel. So and I think it actually
comes from the drill music that they say, you know, well,
(19:29):
we don't want hip hop because they start hearing that
type of shit that music has never I have never
heard drill music get played outside of the Burroughs and
the most you know, black inner city communities. They don't
come outside. It's not coming outside. So y'all better figure
something out. You better figure out how you're gonna make,
(19:50):
you know, a transition to music that actually can we
have a universal sound and a universal pill, you know,
because only the hip hop artist, the elder hip hop
it is the elder stasman who got the saws? Did
they remember from high school? You know? And they figured
out they're gonna throw a techno beat. They ain't throwing
no techno beating on drill saw. So yeah, I better
figure it out. M M.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
But today TM, I, let's talk about this trial that
Carti B Has successfully been cleared, you know from the charges.
So I started just listening in and watching you know whatever,
and watching what I could find and reading just to
kind of of course, just being interested. And I said
(20:35):
from several days ago when the administrator from the office
administrator and then also the doctor when they but first
of all, when the office administrator testified that Carti did
not hit the other young lady, miss Ellis, that you
know they were it was definitely heeded. They was yelling
(20:57):
back and forth, but that she was unable to calm
miss Ellis down right like she was like you know,
she was trying to tell her like got to back up,
gotta calm calm down. That day, I said, Carty's gonna
win this case, right because you have a witness there.
Dad works in the office, who's clearly saying no, it
(21:18):
didn't happen, and she's using certain language, which I think
she was using because it was just the truth. Dad.
She had to try to like get this lady, you know,
the security guard, to calm down. As I think the
TMI today is are these people Because Carti says something
when she was giving her speech at the end, you know,
(21:39):
you know, outside the courthouse, lord had mercy. It's not
an acceptance speech, but I can't figure out exactly what
to call it. So at the press conference afterwards, she said,
I'm gonna sue the next person. It'll be nice this time,
but I'm gonna sue the next person. I'm like, counter
sue them and make them pay. Because of these frivolous lawsuits,
people think that celebrity are just supposed to pay up whatever,
(22:02):
and that most celebrities are going to settle. And I
was just you know, twenty four million dollars. I'm thinking
that for some people they might say, hey, Carti is
a celebrity. If you get into an argument or any
type of altercation outside verb war, otherwise you have to
be subject to these big lawsuits again. Twenty four million dollars.
(22:26):
And I'm just wondering for people who paid attention that
the doctor came out and said he did not see
any scars. He did not see this young lady hit
by Carti. The other young lady who's the office administrator,
says she got hit in her face because the security
guard hit her. And I'm just wondering, like for people,
(22:47):
are they feeling like, you know, it is what it is,
it's fair game because you're a celebrity and you have
a lot of money, or do folks feel that what
has happened here is just ridiculous because I think that
the girl even asking and having her mother to testify,
trying to say, you know, I believe my daughter, all
of that, it's just so traumatizing. It just seems so
crazy to me. And I never thought she was going
(23:08):
to win this case.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I mean I didn't. I don't put anything past anybody.
We're in we're in times when people are hungry, they
start and they're trying to come up. People try to
get lawsuits every day, and this lady was no difference.
She's seen Cardi. You know, Cardi has a reputation of
quote unquote being violent because she's getting to fight publicly
and they've seen it, and she figured she could convince
(23:30):
a jury or somebody to give them. Somebody or Carli
would just cop out, because what they say is that
for the most part, that most people wanna cop out
because it's more expensive to fight, that you gotta pay
these lawyers. Why not just cop out? And that's what
most people do. They figure people wanna cop out. I'm
glad that Cardi has taken a stance that she's like, no,
(23:52):
I'm not gonna just cop out. I got a family
that will cost more money, and I'm not just giving
y'all hour work. No, I'm not making and not giving
your money. I'm going to count a suit and to
make sure you don't have nothing. You know, she already
did it to what's the lady's name.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh lord, oil boyd any rate a blogger. I can't
get your names already.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So you know, Carty has been successful at these lawsuits.
You know, she's been constantly making sure that she stands
up for herselfs and I love it. You know, BX
how Grid to.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
The death, Well then there's that. So but the T
and I, y'all, we want you to hit us up
and tell us do you think that these lawsuits for
celebrities are fair game or do you feel that what
happened to Cardi the fact that she missed her children's
first day of school, the last week of school, the
last week of summer of vacation, she missed all of
(24:47):
that to be in court for a twenty four million
dollar lawsuit where half the people testified for Carti or
not so much for her, but just in her favor.
I just think that it's ridiculous, and I agree with
you minds that somebody need to be.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Sued, so everybody.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It's not everybody, because everybody means everybody means that they
can sue us too. So we are still in the
midst of the summer break, people sort of getting back
to reality. Lots happening Washington, d C. Next week, we
plan to have some folks on this show to talk
(25:27):
about everything that has happened with the military occupation by
the Trump administration in Washington, d C. We're gonna be
talking with some folks who are very close to the
details of the things that's happening in the city, trying
to understand more about what Mayor Muriel Bowser has been
talking about because you know, I'm confused. Maybe I'm not confused.
(25:51):
I understand that DC does not have this statehood, and
so I'm clear that, you know, because of that, it
puts the mayor in a different situation. But the tone
that she's taken is a tone that I think is
pretty dangerous. I've been watching on the media in the
media in the last couple of days as people try
(26:12):
to make the case for why she should why other
cities should just be open to occupation, to military occupation.
They are now using Mayor Browser's statements and her tone
as a defense for them, and I think that's pretty dangerous. So,
you know, we will, we'll hear from these folks to
(26:35):
learn more. And then we've got guests that are coming up.
You know, folks are getting back and they're ready to talk.
You know, I've been getting all these text messages and
emails from people asking to get on the show to
talk about a number of issues. People pissed off about
everything easy bad, the airbnb, the you know, people feel
(26:55):
racial discrimination. Folks are they have new products, new books,
new so serviss folks trying to you know, really get
their their businesses off. The ground, so it is so
much to cover. And when we get on the other
side of this week and a couple more weeks, we're
going to get back into bringing you some of the
most talented, educated, passionate guests that we can possibly offer,
(27:21):
people that are in our network. But if you have
folks that you want us to talk to, please send
us a d M, send us some information somehow buried
the plane, and just let us know that. You know,
you have folks that you want to hear from that
you think we should have on the TMI show.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yep, let us know. So for my I don't get
it today. You know, all week there has been a
series of just phone conversations dropping that allegedly that young
thug was on the phone with this one twenty one
savage with all types of people I can't even name
(27:58):
all the people supposed to talking to in about And
for my I don't get it right, whether it's true
or not, I don't know why people still talk on
the jail phone, Like this is the craziest thing to
me since you know, I got locked up in the
late nineties and it was always told do not talk
(28:20):
on the jail. Now every couple of months something. You
hear conversations that people are having on the jail phone
and they just shouldn't be having, Like it just doesn't
make sense. Even if you had in Dinny's case, they
was on the phone having conversation, they don't dropped probably
like fifteen conversations that your thugies happen. It's just like,
(28:40):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Think they did that bad, but then again we won't know.
And so because this is I mean, you know, I've
made a comment before that I'm trying to understand who
is releasing these audios.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Oh, they defense is released. It's people that's inside those
places that can't be really traced because a lot of
those officers they sit there and listen to your phone call,
especially when your name comes up. They can literally listen
to your fall call, so they can just pretty much
have their phone they tapement in your conversation. Literally just
take me your yourself for that. I mean, that's what
(29:15):
I'm trying to tell you. That the jail has its
own set of rules. The officers in there are crooked,
they trying to make money. The drugs get in there.
Because the officers bringing drugs in there, there's no pridy
that's locked up, just bringing drugs inside the facility. So
I'm just trying to tell you everything that goes on
these offices are all the way involved in, you know.
(29:36):
So that's why I'm so confused that why are y'all
still talking on the jail phone? Like what are you? Like?
I remember who was it? It was five year old farmer.
Five year old farm was before he had got out.
He just came home.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I hope he was able to deep socks and get love.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
We got a lot of love. Five year said something
out and I had to hit them like come on,
buck fabio and see these young boys that you know
from the Bronx was beefing and they was beefing on
the jail phone. Like they was on the jail phone
making songs, this making dissauce about each other over the
jail phone, talking about who did this? Who didn't do that?
(30:19):
Won't you not that? You know? Good? Like that? I
said to myself, how do they think this makes sense?
And finally was like, yo, I'm all for the beef
over the jail phone. That this songs over the jail phone,
I'm with that. And I'm like, how did we get
to a point will we start making sense over basically
telling on yourself. Just it don't make sense. Even when
(30:41):
if you in jail for murder, attempted murder, shot somebody
this and that, and you talking about violence on the
phone against the people you're supposed to have beef with,
that that one of their people is the person you
supposed to shot, It just doesn't make sense, you know
what I'm saying. So even when I'm listening to these conversations,
I'm like him, I hope these conversations is fake. That
(31:02):
does is that? Like? What do you have in conversations
about anything on these jail phones? For anything? You're not
gonna tell them people you shouldn't be telling on your phone.
You know, I don't know what. I don't know who's who.
I don't know who's snitches. I don't know. But I
told people on my post today that everybody is snitch
and people old everybody in stitching. My man held it down.
(31:23):
My man is one hundred, my man did thirty, my
man did forty years. And I said, your man is
the zero point one percent. I want you to if
you are outside right now and you're thinking about engaging
in a legal activity with somebody else. Assume that he
is a rat, because by the time you find out
(31:43):
he is, it's gonna be too late and about fakes
and abandoned that mission. I'm just telling you right now
because everybody that I know that got ratted on and
told on it was by somebody that they didn't believe
would tell them if somebody called him brother, Like we
just seen with a man's father, the toll on they
got in life a person. So see if your father
(32:04):
tells me, it's nobody that you could put in us.
So I'm just my thing is your man might be
the most solid person, or he might be solid. He
might have been solid, he might have did ten for
another person, he might defive all of this shit. By
the time you find out he ain't solid for you,
it's gonna be too late. So I'm saying, assume that
everybody is a rat. Stay out the streets, get out
(32:26):
the game. It is completely over. There's no loyalty, there's
no honor, no integrity. Nobody celebrates that. No, most of
these people don't care about that. They care about their
self preservation. When it comes to these streets, it's about
self preservation. Everybody is gonna choose they self over you
or nine point ninety nine that one person. Nobody talks
(32:51):
about them. They sitting them out as mad. They got
forty fifty years, they never come home. And they did
it for people who in there put two dollars was
on their books. Don't be, don't be none of those people.
Don't be the nigga that sit and sell for a
nigga that wouldn't put two thousands of your books. And
don't be a nigga that's sitting and sell. I mean
that find out late that somebody told that the person
(33:13):
he thought was silent was a rat.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Well there's that stay off from.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Jail phones, man, because them jail phones is they him?
And y'all up? Man, I'm telling they say. The people that.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Don't I still think they need to go to jail.
But I think anybody is cr No. I think if
anybody is caught taping.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
But the conversation, I don't know. Do they become public afterwards?
We have to look into the domain. It's can your conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
They was leading young thugs conversations.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
While they let you know when you get on the phone.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
They said, I get that it should be that's it.
It should be monitored. It should not be leaked.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
They said it can be.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You should be able to have a private conversation. What
you man the same as you're saying. But I'm just
trying to tell you that I feel like you should
be able to have a private conversation with your family
members and whomever else it is, and it not be leaked.
They need to come up with a system for ensuring
that the conversations can't be leaked because it's encrypted. It's
(34:18):
something something, something that goes to a very small bubble
of people who are responsible. I'm just saying, because you
you should listen. Your mother's dying, your mag in the park,
your dad is, you know, going through something. You should
be able to have those conversations. You should be able
to talk to your adopted, to talk to whoever it
(34:38):
is that you need to talk to, and it should
not be leaked. I don't care what they're saying. They
could be snitch and telling doing I don't care. It
should well, I think that it's not right and nobody's
gonna do anything about it because and I'm thinking to myself,
I don't even pay attention to what's going on with
young Doug and this one and little who and blat
(35:00):
of line, none of that stuff. I don't this not
in my universe. But when it saw on my timeline,
that's crazy that at least five or six times I
saw something this one said this about that one said
this and that in the third and the only I
only have two particular points. The first point is that
I don't know exactly who said what did was saying who?
(35:22):
But I know young thugs better go somewhere and sit down,
That's what I know. Because them people are just waiting
on the brother to make the wrong move, get into
the wrong thing. And people told me came associate with
folks who have felony convictions and other people that's out
here doing stuff and being and you are here going
back and forth. And then the other guy saw he said,
wooty woody what he somebody? He said, he is a
(35:45):
law bidy citizen. So already these people are setting up
their place to be able to disassociate themselves. And then
you know what's gonna happen. Young Doug will be back
in jail after after being able to secure and epic
win and epic win. It's like the idea that this
man didn't have to do any time, and bab, I mean, well,
(36:09):
I'm sorry any more time, yes, right, but I'm talking
about what they when he was up against right, because
I'm just thinking, Okay, this man has been afforded a
massive blessing. Okay, it could have been a completely different situation.
What if I was given if I was advising, and
(36:29):
I'm sure it's people around who's doing that. You know what,
I would learn how to do golf, some tennis, some whatever,
even in basketball, I don't care what it isbe maybe
you gotta figure out something else, because this see a
thing right here, this back and forth now, because the
(36:51):
whole purpose of these people leaking little bits of information
here there is too they leaking certain things. Why not
when he was talking to us, mother, father, whoever. No,
they're leaking certain things for a purpose. And this is
when he has to lock in in his mind that
no matter what, I'm not gonna let you trick me
(37:13):
out of what this this blessing that God has bestowed
upon me and everybody else's little baby. I heard his
name up there, this person in that prison. You know
what they should do. They should just say whatever you said,
you said, I don't fuck with you, you don't fuck with me.
That's it. That's it, that's it. Walk the other way
because otherwise, you know what. Guess what old finding them
and these other prosecutors in the neighboring areas. Guess what
(37:36):
they're doing. They sitting around listening to see if there's
any new indictments that they can get off the tapes.
Can they get a little bit of this? Can they
get over all the unless watch the social media and see.
That's why that guy said I'm a law bidy citizen
because he already thought of people screenshot and cutting it
up and putting this word with this word, and this
thing with that. And now they're gonna be on a
whole new surveillance. That's it. That's how it goes. So
(37:59):
I pray and you don't. May maybe they gonna get
it together. But it's very scary to me because I
thought they got a bless.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Listen, man, everybody's awry and the face can't wait to
get you. And if you're playing around with them people,
you keep on playing around, they're gonna get you. They
only got to catch you one time. They gotta let
you keep on, you know, and you find out that
water is wet and finally it is hot, you know,
so hopefully don't get it. Hopeful everybody get it. Man,
(38:28):
don't let them people do, because them people will trick
your ass out of your freedom forever. Wet as hell.
People find out what you find out what the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
It's not funny, it's not funny. It's very serious. I'm
over here, word about it, and this ain't even my
not in my wheelhouse. And I'm concerned because it makes sense.
Stay out the way, out the way.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
And with that said, that brings it to the end
of another episode of TMM. We appreciate y'all continue to
follow us. Next week. You want to have a real
dope episode to be Washington, DC.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
S foosed to talk about what has been happening there
with the occupation and Mario Bowser, and we're gonna get
into some real serious details. I want to talk to
the people who feel like they understand her position, not
just all the people who are saying because I'm with it. Yeah,
I'm with the people that don't understand. So I but
I but I want to hear from other people because
(39:30):
I like to grow, I like to get smarter, I
like to deepen my understanding. I don't want to just
sit in my frustration on my decision that I don't
like something you did or something you said. I'm willing.
I'm willing to expand. I'm willing to expand. So that's
what i want to do.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I'm not mad at the expansion, but it's certain things
that this not gonna make sense. I'll just trust the
words you you or how you saying to me, So
I'm cool with all that. But if you say some
bullshit to me, just because you put syrup on it,
it don't make it panky, you know. So with that said,
I'm not gonna always be right to me get the man,
which is I conna always be wrong. We will both
(40:07):
always and I mean always be authentic. That
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