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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Warning, the following episode contains explicit language and sexual themes.
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
They saw themselves as the real carriers of the Russian tradition,
and it was a world of very small, tightly organized
criminal groups which were brought together by a very strict
and hierarchical code. Leaders of these groups who were called
the thieves in law, which meant ready thieves within their
own law, they were called vorti.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
What their traditional mafia is to Italy, the vori is
to Russian organized criminal groups, or as they're called in Russia.
Opg Ivory were born in Soviet labor camps and eventually
became the elite criminal class in Russia, known for a
specific code of honor, one that had very strict guidelines
around women.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
The Braskoys are gone or thieves code. He must forsake
his family, he must never work, He must survive by
criminal activities alone, help other thieves, and recruit and train
young beginners in the trade. Limit his drinking and not
a mass gambling debt city cannot cover. The thief can

(01:31):
have nothing to do with the authorities or serve in
the military. He must keep his promises made to other
thieves and abide by punishment determined by other thieves. In law,
he must refrain from marrying or having a family of
his own. This does not precruit him from having a lover.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
A key.

Speaker 7 (02:00):
Dude that I come on my June to that.

Speaker 8 (02:07):
Of I was hold and my god, I got to.

Speaker 9 (02:15):
You. I had to kill you.

Speaker 7 (02:23):
Thisss.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
So what's for? Episode twelve, Chapter twenty six, Another Life?

Speaker 9 (03:00):
So Friday morning, my vocap and the first thing in
my brain was, oh, my god, what if I will
not be able to do that? What if he wouldn't
like me? What if something will go wrong? I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
It was the day of Leah's biggest operation. On this
Friday night, she would go to the city's hottest club
disguised as a high class prostitute. Her mission to seduce Vladimir,
the head of a dangerous drug trafficking gang, and infiltrate
his organization. Just one mistake could cost Aliah her life.

(03:35):
There was a lot of preparation to be done, and
it started with remembering that Vladimir's childhood friend had told
her team that the love of Vladimir's youth, who had
left him for another man, had worn short skirts, white
knee socks, and braided hair.

Speaker 9 (03:50):
I dressed in this really short skirt and I bought
a really beautiful but very sexy, very open on top
with crystals on it. It was sparkling white, and I
raided my hair. I put some makeup, and I put
white socks. Tell my niece, and I put some high heels.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
During their investigation, the least team had also learned about
the personality of Vladimir's high school girlfriend, and what stood
out was that she was very talkative and funny, almost silly.

Speaker 9 (04:27):
So I decided that I will rehearse in front of
the mirror, and I just started to pronounce these words
in this like giggling way. I had to make sure
he would definitely be interested and intrigued by me from
the first moment, and I was thinking what would I

(04:49):
tell him and how would I look to him? So
I trained my eyes as well with this like look,
with full desire and admiration, and I I remembered some jokes,
So I wrote down some jokes. I mean, I was
freaking out seriously.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Leah's team leader had already made the initial contact with
the gang and established a relationship, pretending to be a
small time pimp and drug dealer.

Speaker 9 (05:18):
So in our plan, he's supposed to introduce me as
one of the next girl. So he was literally like,
you know, pimp. But I didn't want to sleep at
him from the first night because I knew it wouldn't
be appreciated.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
That evening.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Leah then met her colleagues to drive to the club
and make the initial contact with Vladimir and his so
called brothers in the gang.

Speaker 9 (05:46):
So we said to the car the drove and my
concern was about his brothers. He had always these like
four guys next to him all the time, and they
looked really violent and they were huge, no emotions on face.
And you definitely don't want to see these guys in

(06:09):
the dark neighborhood. Believe me, you don't. So I was thinking,
how can I make them to like me? Because if
I seduce Vladimir, need to seduce his in the circle
in the way they would like me and they would
accept me in the circle. They gave me the wire

(06:31):
and they was like, we will be nearby. If something
will go wrong, don't worry because we will be just
in the car sitting and waiting for you. But your
colic will be next to you, your amazing pimp, so
don't worry. Everything will be good. And then my colleagues said, Okay,
be careful.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Her mission was not just to get evidence against Vladimir's gang,
but to uncover the whole network that was bringing drug
in from Afghanistan, then deluting them with chemicals, packaging them
and distributing them in Russia.

Speaker 9 (07:06):
Oh with department, we wanted to find out who were
these people who would fix and mix these drugs, because
these people are responsible for all these deaths. Mixing all
these doses with amphetamine and chemical drugs, it would.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
Kill other people.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Eventually, Aliyah arrived at the club. It was one she'd
never been to before, the most popular and exclusive in
the city.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
So we're there.

Speaker 9 (07:36):
I see the club, huge building, beautiful girls standing outside, smoking,
beautiful dresses, just gorgeous.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
The music was so loud.

Speaker 9 (07:49):
And every time I hear this music, I'm remembering that night.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Her contact, who was undercover pretending to be her pimp,
was waiting outside and went over the plan with her.

Speaker 7 (08:03):
He gave me instructions.

Speaker 9 (08:05):
This should to come to the bar a counter and
ordered some drinks and he will do the whole introduction.
And all I need to do is just smile, be nice,
and just be playful. If Vladimir likes you, usually, if
he likes the girl I introduced him, he invites her
to the table. If he doesn't like her, he does

(08:28):
introduce her to the table. And that's how I know
that I should find another girl for him.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Between her strict upbringing military school in Chehnya, Aliyah had
never been to a place like this before. As she
walked to the door, she was intoxicated by the glamor,
almost forgetting the gravity of her mission.

Speaker 9 (08:47):
I had never been in the club, I never being dancing,
I never hang out with other people like that. So
I just wanted to have fun. And I was thinking
that I'll do my job, but you know what, I'll
have a good time.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
Why not.

Speaker 9 (09:04):
Be came to the bar counter, my pimp ordered some
drinks and I was like dancing. But from my powerful vision,
I saw Vladimir looking at me because they were sitting
at the corner table. Which was the biggest table and

(09:27):
it was on the stage, my presenting peep. He said, Okay,
be ready, he's coming. Stop drinking. He came and he
looked at me and he was like observing and studying
what I'm doing, like every single my move, Like.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
It was so exciting. It was so cold, and it
was so dangerous.

Speaker 9 (09:52):
I didn't even want to have any thought that he
may ever know that I was an undercover agent. I
just didn't love this thought to come to my brain,
as I was taught never think about a failure, because
you will fail and I have to be the winner.

(10:17):
So then my pretending pimp, he touched my shoulder and
he said, hey, this is Vladimir. Want to introduce you.
And the moment I looked at Vladimir with my seductive,

(10:37):
playful look, the whole love which I created for two months,
looking at him every single day for eight hours at least,
and he noticed.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Leah worked her usual routine, making sure to embody the positive,
funny qualities of Vladimir's former girlfriend while adding in her
seduction training, specifically flattery, complementing Vladimir as he talked about
being one of the owners of the club and.

Speaker 9 (11:08):
That's the power of the manipulative compliments. And while he
was telling me these things, you what can he brought
me to they table and we sat down, and my
pretending pemp I could see him, so he was standing
at the bar countern, just like sipping a drink. I

(11:33):
felt like, it's okay, I'm not alone. I felt safe
kind of more or less. So I asked him some
questions which will lead him to the conversation where he
would think that we have mutual interests.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
After creating this initial rapport, Liah moved on to the
next part of the script.

Speaker 8 (11:58):
She'd been practicing.

Speaker 9 (12:00):
So I had homework to write these stories, and then
I rehearsed it in front of the mirror so I
could tell him and he loved And then he told
to one of his guys, oh, look like, listen to
her story. It's so funny, Like she's a funny girl.
It was a crazy feeling when you're playing the role

(12:21):
of someone else, even though like I did their rehearsal
and I did the whole preparation, but yet inside of me,
I still had this kind of what if, you know,
like I need to be careful here.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
As she worked to win over the group. She noticed
that one person in Vladimir's game wasn't trusting this unfamiliar
woman who seemed to be entertaining the whole table.

Speaker 9 (12:50):
And I started to tell this funny story and everybody
loved afarst from one guy.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
And he looked.

Speaker 9 (12:59):
At me like he was looking through me, trying to
read my mind, and just like checking every single details
which I had. I felt that look. I didn't like
it at all. It made me worried. And Vladimir said, oh,

(13:19):
this is a right hand, which I knew. I always
used to see him next to him, so he'd never
had any emotions on his face. He would be really
like strict, and he wouldn't go out with any girls.
Really kind of like a good security, like a perfect dog,

(13:40):
which is just watching.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
And sisting there.

Speaker 9 (13:44):
And I try not to pay attention, but it I
felt that I should be really careful with this guy,
like super careful.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
As she sat at the table trying to win the
acceptance of Vladimir, circle Alia saw an opportunity that might
save the mission. A first seduction failed to recruit one
of the women there as a friend and unwinning informant,
so she set her sights on a member of the
entourage who seemed to be closest to the game.

Speaker 9 (14:23):
She was wearing very low waist jeans and her panties.
I could see her panties like out of her jeans
and was all kind of like crystals, and I was
so shocked. First of all, I've never seen anything like that.
And then I was like, wow, this is like superfession.

(14:44):
And I started to speak with this girl about her
like look and fashion style and said like, oh, you
put everything so nicely, and she loved it, and we
started to talk. So Anna, her name was Anna. She
was a perfect informa. First of all, she was in
the gang for quite a long time, and she was

(15:06):
sometimes sleeping with one right hand of the Vladimir and
she's like, oh my god, you're so cool. You should
come again. We should hang out and we exchange numbers.
So it was good because I will get more information
about this gang, Like what does she know? I wanted
just to get everything out of her head.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
With this small victory secured, Leah tried to figure out
how to turn her attention back to Vladimir.

Speaker 9 (15:34):
And I felt that Vladimir looked at me a few
times very briefly, and I put my hand on his
knees very softly, and I felt that he liked it.
And then I slowly moved my hand a little bit further,

(15:56):
and then, you know, just on his inner sarry a
little bit, and at this same moment he hugged me.
I felt like, yes, okay, I'm getting closer. Good, So
I established kind of connection.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Whenever Leah noticed Vladimir speaking about something that excited him,
she used the NLP techniques she'd learned in the academy
and try to anchor those good feelings to her.

Speaker 9 (16:22):
And when he had these positive memories, I touched his neck.
I established that that anchor and I thought, like, you know,
like it has to work, because it did work on Cornel.
It was important for me to have Hate's desire to

(16:44):
meet with me again, to be like, you know, there
is something about this girl. I don't know what, but
she's interesting.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
And then Aliah used one of the oldest seduction tricks
in the book, leave them wanting more.

Speaker 9 (17:00):
But in about an hour, I said to Vladimir, I'm
really sorry.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
I have to go home.

Speaker 9 (17:08):
My university starts like at early morning and I have
to do my classes. He was like, yeah, of course,
I do understand, and he said, let's go.

Speaker 7 (17:19):
I will drop you off.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
This was the moment when Alea knew she'd accomplished her
initial objective and added success was that she would now
have some time alone with Vladimir in a car. It
was also an added danger. Vladimir signaled to two of
his friends who left with them and followed in a
car behind.

Speaker 9 (17:40):
We were driving to my house to drop me off,
and I was thinking if my colleagues, if they will
be following us or not. I didn't know that time,
but I knew they were shaking on me. Well that's
what I wanted to think.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
Chapter twenty seven, Uncle Stpa, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (18:28):
This is the face of a true Rsian mobster. The
logic goes like this. Cops usually catch the gruns, the soldiers,
the lower level thugs and crooks who do the dirty work,
while the bosses who give the orders sit back and
maintain the appearance of innocence. The bosses don't like to
get their hands dirty, and.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
So it is rare to prove serious crimes against them.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Aliyah had just left the club with her target. She
was now alone in the car with Vladimir. The leader
of one of the biggest drug trafficking and extortion gangs
in the city. Behind her, there was another car following them,
filled with other equally dangerous criminals in Vladimir's gang. She
hoped that behind them were the much less dangerous, much

(19:22):
less experienced members of her backup team.

Speaker 9 (19:26):
While we were driving, he asked me some questions, like
what's your blood? Where are you coming from, because I
obviously don't look like a Russian girl, And I said,
of all guests, and he was like, ta Jikistan, I'm
like a warm Okay, it was the biggest. Then I'm
like a warmer. So what like Kazakhstan? Like yes, hot, hot, hot,

(19:51):
And I was giggling, and he loved it because it
brought him to his childhood. He's like, he was so funny,
like what you couldn't say from Kazakhstan. I'm like, well,
it wouldn't be interesting, right, don't you like games? And
he looked at me like this will depend what kind
of games? I said, like with me, it will be
only finding games.

Speaker 8 (20:12):
They soon arrived in front of Lee's apartment.

Speaker 9 (20:16):
I leaned to Vladimir and I kissed his cheek and
I said, well, thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (20:26):
And he's like, okay, Sunshine, sleep well and i'll text
you tomorrow. And I remember I was like walking into
a part of It's like, oh my hands for shaking.
I was like, oh my god, oh my god, I
can't believe.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
It, Like whow that was?

Speaker 9 (20:47):
It was an experience. I felt so many emotions.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
I asked Aleiah whether she was worried that since the
gang knew where she lived, they could then follow her
and find out she was an intelligence agent.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
We agreed before with my team.

Speaker 9 (21:04):
Once I will infiltrate the gang, I will not go
back to the.

Speaker 7 (21:09):
Office at all.

Speaker 9 (21:11):
Also, I had a separate number which was you know,
the same card was registered not on my name.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
The next day, Eliah texted Anna, the woman she had
met at the club, in hopes to befriending her and
recruiting her as an informant. They agreed to meet at
a trendy cafe later that afternoon.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
I went to see her.

Speaker 9 (21:33):
She was sitting in a beautiful dress, looking so cooled beautiful.
So I started to ask her about herself. First, she
was hanging out with this gang for almost a year,
which was really important. To know her well and establish
good connection.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Eventually, Aliah found a way to ask Anna about the
very quiet gang member, the one who was thearing mistrustfully
at her in the club the night before.

Speaker 9 (22:02):
And then that guy who was looking at me with
these like sharp eyes, absolutely cold and tough. That guy
actually was one of Vladimir's very old friend So that
guy actually was responsible for bringing and supplying heroin and cocaine.

(22:27):
And she said, like, he's so creepy. He always likes
sitting there like quiet, and he looks at everybody and everything.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
As Aliah talks more about her meeting with Anna, she
keeps referring to how stylish Houna was and how well
the gang took care of her financially. So I asked
her if although her job was to seduce the gang,
was she also being seduced by the glamor, celebrity and
lifestyle of the gang. And you didn't have any female
role models in a sense until you met Anna.

Speaker 9 (22:57):
Anna was my role model hungerd percent and because I
asked her, like, where do you buy all these crazy
amazing clothes And she's like, oh, it's like this day
is like boutique.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
It's super exclusive.

Speaker 9 (23:09):
I'll bring you there, And yes, I was seduced by
the fashion that moment. Yes, that's where my fashion, desired
fashion comes from that time, one hundred percent. Because look
also it was useless are everybody was wearing the same
very dark and just very awful clothes.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
And then uses are full.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
And all these American clothes comes like jeans, like cool shoes,
like trainers.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Back at her home, Aleah received a text from Ladimir
inviting her to beat him at the club that evening.

Speaker 9 (23:51):
I came to the club by the taxi. I texted Sasha.
He said he's on the spot. I also texted and
I said that I'm coming. So she was waiting for me.
So I walked in and.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
It was scary.

Speaker 9 (24:10):
I felt like I'm a deer or like a lama
walking into the tiger's home. But I said, no, I
can do it. So I put a big smile on
my face and I saw him. He looked at me,

(24:32):
and he stand up. And that guy was also there,
exactly the same spot, and I saw he was watching me,
watching through me, and it felt like he knew who.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
I really was.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Leah tried to focus on the task at hand, returning
her attention to Vladimir, the gang's leader.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
I wanted to seduce him.

Speaker 9 (24:58):
So we talked about his past, and he told me
a little bit about his family, which is great. And
there was one question which every man loves and every
man wants to talk about this. And this is the
question which brings women very close to the man, and

(25:19):
the question is.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Leah pauses and ask me to guess the question, very
similar to the game she was playing with Vladimir. I'm
unable to guess it.

Speaker 9 (25:29):
When I was in the military academy, the coronel said,
the most psychological technique which really makes the brain of
the man becomes really attached to the woman. If the
woman asked what was your dream when you were a
little boy? Then I asked this question to Vladimir and

(25:50):
he said, I wanted to be like Uncle Stopa.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
Uncle Stopa.

Speaker 9 (25:55):
It is Marshack's poem for children, and it was about
this uncle Stopo who would be like a real hero
in real life. And he was like a policeman. Can
you measine? Vladimir when he was a little boy, he
wanted to be a good, noble, brief policeman. And I

(26:19):
touched his hand and I said, to him, that's so amazing.
I wanted to work in police too, but I go
into another direction. But you know what, you still can
try a lot of things in our life. You're still young.
The whole world isn't around us like you know, you
can do anything you want. And I smiled, but inside

(26:43):
of me, I felt like, you don't know what you're
talking about, because I wasn't trapped, and he that moment
was he had much more and bigger freedom than I did.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
This second night with Vladimir was key to Alia's seduction.
If it didn't go well, she might never see him again.
And it's becoming clear here that this was important to
Aliyah not just because she wanted to succeed in her mission,
but because she wanted to keep her access to this world.
She was becoming so enamored by the world of beauty, power, luxury,

(27:40):
and fashion that her strict father forbid her from participating
in as a teenager.

Speaker 9 (27:45):
In the end of the day, I had to do
my job. It had to be the best night in
his life, the best. So the time has came and
he kind of like, not that his hat and his
brother's and these two guys stand up and we started

(28:05):
to walk out from the club.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
They drove to Vladimir's holl a building that Lea had
staked out many times over the past few months, but
she'd never been inside.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
And we came to his house, into this big house, beautiful.

Speaker 9 (28:25):
We walked upstairs, but these two guys they were in
the house too. They were kind of like security, but
also friends and collects. It was a little bit difficult
because I was planning to search house and see what's everywhere.

(28:47):
We walked into his bedroom and I saw big bad
and I saw ceiling was mirror ceiling, and it was
a little bit awkward because I've never seen anything like
this before. And he started to kiss me, and you know,

(29:09):
that moment, I surprised. I never felt this with anyone before.
My whole body reacted on his kisses and on his statues,
and I felt good, and I just forgot that it
was my job, and I forgot that I have to
do it to get information, and I forgot that it

(29:33):
wasn't really me. I just said myself, I just want
to experience that. I want to try it with a
man whom I really want, not when I was abused
or reaped. I want to do it for myself, so

(29:54):
I just I accept to him fully, and I never
ever experienced anything like that before, And it was so
beautiful and powerful, like he just opened me like a woman.

(30:15):
And I looked in the mirror and the sitting and
the first moment in my life I received such a
strong organism. He was the first man who really gave
me that pleasure and that understanding of my sexuality is

(30:37):
a woman. And I felt so special in his hands.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
There was just one problem with this otherwise perfect moment.
Eliah was not here to feel special. She was here
to find evidence against the man she was starting to
fall in love with.

Speaker 9 (31:01):
I stand up slowly so he wouldn't wake up. I
didn't go downstairs because I didn't know exactly where these
guys were steeping. But upstairs, I opened the door of
another room and I saw huge black thrush bags. So

(31:23):
I walked and I slowly opened it, and I saw
that it was full of cash, lots of lots of money.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Leah's story continues in episode.

Speaker 8 (31:41):
Thirteen, What city do you live in? I'm in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
If I didn't like you, and I found you in
Los Angeles and stabbed you on the sidewalk, I would
immediately have heat on me.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
To Die For is a production of Tenderfoot TV in
association with iHeart Podcasts. The show is hosted and written
by me Neil Strauss, with additional writing assistants by Tristan Bankston.
Executive producers are myself, Donald Albright, and Payne Lindsay. For
iHeart Podcasts, executive producers are Matt Frederick and Alex Williams.

(32:29):
Lead producer and editor is Tristan Bankston. Additional editing by
Miles Clark and Christian Brown. Supervising producer Tracy Kaplan. Consultants
include Nushin, Valiza day, Chelsea Gooden, and Jamie Albright.

Speaker 8 (32:44):
Artwork by Byron McCoy.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
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