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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's good everybody, Welcome back to the best show. You
know what I'm saying. I got three national champions, not one,
not two, but three winners, winners. I never wanted anything
in my basketball career. But it's all good, man. I
got to my right, the one and only mister Raymond
Felton Yo. To my left, I got Charlie V. Kurtz

(00:26):
sleeping at the wheel, not switching the camera angle. But
we're still good.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're gonna get it right. One day, he one day.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
We got Charlie V in the building, fucking kurt Man.
So we got two thousand and five in the building,
two thousand and four, and then we got twenty seventeen
national champion. An we gotta show love, though, we gotta
show Yeah, ya, y'all age yourself on the show. Don't
blame me.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's true. It's true, all.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Right, So we all started a little bit of a
wild thing. Mean feel just right. We don't know how
true it is, but supposedly Shade Gilders Alexander long name right. Pause,
as you would say, Yeah, I'm growing, but I don't
really care. So I'm just saying as you would say that,
I literally preface that you're trying to you're trying to
get you're trying to get at me today because I've
been Anyways, Supposedly he's costing the NBA a lot more money.

(01:18):
Someone reported two million dollars more because his name is
really long and stitching and he sells a lot of jerseys.
Do I know if that's true?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
What do y'all think?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Man? He's making the nbah that nobody want to hear
that ship. Man, I don't give a damn fuck it. Yeah,
two millions, he's making them another one hundred million on
ticket sales.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Come back from people buying his jersey. Come on, what's
he ranked in jerseys?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
He's got to be number one.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't know, He's definitely top five for sure. I'll
say this.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
My nephew is the biggest shake gial, just Alexander fan.
I try to give him jersey Canada exactly, but I
couldn't even find at the custom make one.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Really, so that means you're saying it sold.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Out for the kids size Yeah wow.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Shout out to SGA man.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Shout out to Dre Shelton, MT. Even shout out the
big bank. They say, I'm on Warriors payroll. Charlie's not
even top ten. He's on top ten.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Luca, Steph Bron, Tatum Brunson, Victor Davis, John Moran, LaMelo Ball,
Devin Booker. Makes sense, he's not top ten, That makes sense.
You put him up a Luca, they get more Luca
Luca Lakers, but and you not get a whole country
Steph Curry, Steph Curry. Luca got the whole world.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
You have to put him perspective.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Bron got the whole world world and lost. But no,
he's gonna get there. He's gonna get there.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Here's perspective though. Right, there's only thirty five million people
in Canada. There's more people in California than there is
in Canada.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, but let's think about this. Jalen Brunce is top
five a New York I mean New York.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Do you guys get a royalty from your Jersey cells?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, don't, don't don't. Still, Yeah, when you play, you
guys video game, all that stuff. Ship you're talking about.
He's talking about why we were playing.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh yeah, so when you're in New York, there's a
solid from that.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, we don't talking about that.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
But solid.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, But he doesn't specially like it's that it goes
to everyone. Yeah, it was like a big everybody get
the same amount, so it don't matter. It was nice though,
I said, one and Ray sells a million.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I was thinking, you guys get paid individual royal from
yours nice.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
No, no, no, no, that collective. I can't wait for that
chip because that that that will be fair. Just get
a fucking yeah, a couple of million more and I'm
give me ten dollars.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Like, come on, now, you have more than ten dollars, bro,
maybe twenty.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Just your brother that I met yesterday, said SG A
nine brother. Yeah he's yeah. You didn't know you had
a brother. He's not here, Bro, Have you have multiple brothers?
Brothers that I know him? Three more? He said that.
I know what rolling him.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Claim something like ten siblings.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's ten of us. I got six sisters and three
brother brothers. It's ten of us total. Pops was gated.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Y he knows of bro could be.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Six baby mamas. I put my business out there, Pops,
Pops pull out game was weak, trying ten six baby moms.
The baby mom. I can't go to the d R.
Yeah from there. I remember one time I asked, Pops,

(04:46):
pose you ever wear a rubber what's that? Never heard
of it? God, never heard of it? What is that?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Rob said, there's an eleventh in Puerto Rico? Is that true?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Rob put the business out there? There is supposedly there
is one one more he put it. But like I
said that, I know, I claim this a way for
boys Pop Scincy. Then hey, listen, we can stop the show.
We go a viral heath phase. That's that's right there, man,

(05:25):
we got one in Puerto Rico. He got lost possibly, yeah,
he got lost, but got ten of the possible rate.
You're no bullshit, No, this is true story. I know
we're changing gears, but no bullshit. I remember I was
playing for the d R team, but I was in
d R. I had this random person, random person like yo,
like your brother said. My brother said, yeah, your dad

(05:48):
and gave me the whole phone warning by my pop
claiming that that was my brother that they wanted some money.
I'm not bullshit. They might have been getting me, or
it might have been two stories. Because Pop's resume is
we'll support the facts. That's the first. Everything checking all

(06:08):
the boxes, right, he checking all the box So yeah,
that was crazy. But that's the true story.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Charlie gets some We get some DMS onto the ball
page about Charlie helped me on the d R as welle.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Bro d R is fied Man. She represented the r D.
I ain't know what that was about. Where we going?
Tell me? You know what I'm saying, Get me some
property over there. We talked, we will talk. It's affordable.
Now over there, you have a conversation. You have a conversation.

(06:40):
You're gonna, You're done. You're gonna. You're gonna get a
crib over there. You have got them. I'm in the
process of building. Yes, sure, it's already done, sir. And
we can come visit. Absolutely to the behind d R.
Ain't nobody doing. Ain't the flight. I'm gonna be honest,
the fucking flight.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
That would be lit is the wife. I gonna support it.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
That's crazy. That's a good that's a fair, it's a
fair question.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
We were all and rob kept dropping.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh no, no, no, We'll be all right. What could happen?
Will make it happen. You make it happen.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
You the mayor there, suppose you got.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
To, We'll make it happen. The wife in the building.
Shout out to the wife. All we need is good WiFi. Well,
we will make it happen. Like we know, we know
the spot gonna be nice. We're gonna we're gonna make
it happen.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I have no problems with it. I just said the
WiFi might not be.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
So in the in the in the in the plans,
let's put a studio. It just takes it's gonna be
building twenty twenty seven. Fuck, it takes a little minute.
But in the in room, I still got problem. We
can make it happen. I got property over there where
we can stay and make some ship happen. You see
what I'm saying. A little week in the d R
on me too, forget the higher ups on you on me.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
He put on wax.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
He put that on wax. That means, just get a
flight flight up book the flight book the flights. I
got to stay. Yeah, all right, they don't know what
happened because I did not see this what happened.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Oh no, x NBA.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Let me read that Charlemagne and that that was crazy.
I don't see that. Yeah, that was why. First of all,
let's let's go ahead talk about that. I love that
you brought that up. What's he going in his like
that talking about the dam Yeah, I'm from I will
beat your ass. I was like, oh they called him that, dash,

(08:37):
we called him that. That's just insane. Yeah, it was.
It was almost like high school kids going back and
forth to one another. Let me add, my house is
with charlat Mane. You know what he type of energy
he's bringing, So how can you get mad at him

(08:57):
and how he is? They done had a breakfast club
for how long now, ship since I've been alive, damn
near longer than that. So going on that show, they're
gonna ask you some tough fucking questions. Going on that show,
you already know what you're doing with is a liar,
damn some person. What they do to you?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Birds looking for smoke all right? On the tray On
the tray Young Pat Bev situation. Pat Bev basically said
he does not like basketball. I mean he takes the
game for granted. Trey Young hit back and said, relax,
let us speak for ourselves, and then Pat BEV said,
I don't think he's in a position to speak. I
don't think he's want enough to even speak to me
like that or tweet me like that. Then he said

(09:41):
he's been to the playoffs three times. I've been to
the playoff nine. He's been in the NBA seven years.
My first seven years, I didn't miss the playoffs at
all in the Western Conference. His rebuttal is probably going
to be, yeah, you weren't the main player on the team.
Absolutely right. This is why it's a team. So that's
kind of why they're beefing.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay, let me address that. Address that deal first and foremost.
Trey Young is a bona fide go get it, there's more,
go ahead. I've talked to people in Atlanta. They don't
want to play there. They don't think he's a good leader,
they don't think he's a good teammate. This isn't coming
from me, This is coming from Joe. Blow over there, Trey,

(10:20):
all the points you want, you can make, all of
the money you want, you can have, all the leads
and assists you want, you can do all that.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
If you don't win, that shit don't matter. When you retire,
they're going to forget you fast.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Damn. Hey, Look, all I'm saying is at the end
of the day, Oh we got the clip.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
The clip's there, But I don't know if you can
pull the audio.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Can we pull the audio? Peter Peter higher up, he
said two minutes. Well, I'm going to address it anyway.
I personally think it's a corny take on pet bell
side attacking the man as he's still a young player
in this league, still can do a whole lot in

(11:06):
this league. I'm pretty sure he went further than Pat
Bev already or they probably went to the same conference finals.
So Westbrooks, h that's the audio. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
And I think the I think the uh, it was
kind of corny for him to go straight there, understand like, oh,
I went seven years. Yeah, that's like you you were
a part of it, but like you weren't the guy.
You know what I'm saying. I think it's one of
those things where Trey Young is sort of been dealt

(12:35):
in weird hand. If you really think about his career,
he had how many good teams? Two? Maybe? I mean
every other year has been a bad team. There's a
lot of guys that people didn't like playing with, no
no disrespect. There are a lot of people who like
to play with Kobe.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think if you play with Kobe, you love him.
But if you don't, don't right.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
No disrespect to Pat though both disrespect Pat Bev. I
actually like you as a as a player, but you
put Pat Beav in Atlanta. What do you think what
happens the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Have you guys felt he's had good teams? Trey Young?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Listen, this, this is this is this is my issue.
This is what I love that we have this platform
to address things like this and talk about, you know,
certain things. Trey Young is a full star no matter
how you look at it, no matter how you think
about it. You know what I'm saying, Like, Trey Young

(13:43):
is an All Star. He's one of the best young
talents that we have in this league. You have to
get that man and slowers. Pat Bev never was an
All Star, never had to carry that that I'm the
number one guy, burden on his chest, on his back,
never had to carry that. So as athletes and as
former athletes, I don't like when we when we do

(14:06):
this to each other, when we go at each other,
when we tear each other down for whatever reason, we
do this. And I fuck with Pat Bam like I
fuck with them, you know, on the court, off the court.
But why are we tearing each other down as athletes?
Like instead of sticking together? When I see certain guys
talking about players, and you've played this game, you've been
up on a scrutiny before you've been When there's a

(14:29):
person with a pin or a computer typing and talking
bad about us who's never played a fucking game, so
us as as players who've played the game currently and retired,
why are we talking about each other? Yeah? You know
what I'm saying. Why are we being so fucking negative
towards each other for whatever reason? Like I don't, I
don't really like it, don't.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
So do you guys feel like in the media obviously
controversy selves, which you know some people of course, But
what what is fair than just criticizing his game?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah? Yeah, if you critiquing somebody, you critiquing somebody, you
know what I'm saying. But there's a way you can
do it, Like you could tell somebody man, like you know,
like you could be better in this spot, you could
be better doing these things rather than oh this motherfucker trash,
this motherfucker suck last night, Like damn, who's gonna play
perfect every night? Fucking Steph Curry has missed fucking twelve
threes in the game before. It's the best shooter in

(15:23):
the in the world for thirteen bunch of Okay, I
don't think saying I don't think criticizing or giving your
opinion on the player is a bad thing, because that's
gonna happen. I think once it gets a little personal, right,
like wow, I did this and you did that, Like
why are you comparing? Right, That's where it goes, like
why are you comparing? It's like to me, is like

(15:46):
that shouldn't be happening as players, as a fraternity, we
should have each other's backs. But it's okay to criticize
one another, but not like that. But he didn't, like
he said Pat Bans was talking about why they don't
play hell in the All Star Game. He didn't answer
the question, but I know he was attacking what Trey
Young said. But honestly, Srey Loki had a point. He's like, listen,

(16:09):
we was in the All Star Game. We could talk.
Let us talk about its talk. Let the All Stars
talk about wise and you can answer the question of like, okay,
should they play a little bit harder in the All
Star Game? Yes? Also, you did just get done playing
the whole first half of a season, right, so you are.

(16:29):
It's it's an honor to be an All Star, no question.
Everyone wants to be an All Star. But at the
same time, you also want to break a breaking. All
Star is supposed to be fun. Who wants to go
hard in the situation where I like when they do
go hard when they playing for something. But at the

(16:50):
same time, you also got to think about you're looking
at your season two. I go out there and turn
an ankle, us that comes back and I can't play
for the next two three, you know what I'm saying.
And then after All Star break, you know, them games
really start to matter at that point, you know what
I'm saying. So those games really mean something then, and
you're making a push, specially for you those guys who
are making a push for the playoffs, in the playoffs,

(17:11):
whatever it is. So it's a lot that weighs into it.
Like I like the fact that, you know, I would
love the fact that they would go back to playing
a little harder within the game. I think it's getting
a little crazy now. They shooting't have court shots, and
they're doing a lot of stuff like that, and that
stuff is fun to see and look at. But if
you're going to do that, then just make it a challenge.
I have court shot challenge, do something like that rather

(17:34):
than doing it within the mix of the game, or
you just make the game shorter, like dude, like International
ten minutes a quarter or some shit like that, and
then one group play five, other group play five and
some shit like that. Like, my biggest thing is it's
tough because you got the best players on each team
playing in an All Star game, and they're the ones
not getting the rest, that's a fact. And they're the

(17:56):
ones that got to prevail their team to get to
the make a playoff run. They're the one trying to
get the big trophy at the end of the year.
So their biggest their biggest thing is, hey, look bro,
I'm playing for something greater than this right now, and
I'm tired. I've had to do everything to be an
All Star. I got to carry my squad to the

(18:17):
next so like I've seen it, I'll say this. When
when I was with Dallas, we had uh Luca and Codd,
they were All Stars. They had to go to Utah
ship we on vacation. Why am I on vacation and
Luca and uh and Luca in them at Utah.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
So I was just gonna say, but Robson, should we
put the Allstar Game at the end of the NBA
season kind of.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Like kind of like the NFL how they put the
Pro Bowl at the end of the year pretty much
of the year. But if you do that, I think
it takes away out of the excitement of the game, because,
like you're talking about, they don't they're not playing hard now.
They definitely not gonna play hard at the end of
the season. You feel me where some people ain't even
gonna play, they ain't even gonna participate. Shoot, they just

(19:08):
get rid of the All Star.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
No, I think you need one. I think you just
need to listen baseball. Does Baseball still do the rule
where whoever wins the Allstar Game gets hold home court back.
I think you just need to do something like that.
Make it east US West, and well.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
That's what I say. You make it whereas they want
to be competitive, You give them a reason to be competitive. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Whether it's playing for money,
I do it. If you do that, If you're doing it,
what they get a million dollars for the play at
the end season tournament A million. Yeah, do that for
the All Star Game. It's just tough for the All
Star because them guys are making thirty, forty, fifty sixty.

(19:40):
Money is money. Money is money.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
And it makes the most sense though, because I like
the home because everybody that's in the also ninety players
in the also game are winners. Right, No, No, you're typically
not making the Also Game if you're not close to
the playoff team, right or wrong?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, right about that?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
So putting the stakes of yo, whoever, what if the
East wins this game, they get the home court advantage,
that makes the more sense because I think money. I
don't think money moves those guys.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I don't think money doesn't move the needle for those guys. Nope,
you're making sixty MS a year and you're worrying about
one million. Stop it, man, Ain't no way. I mean,
ain't no way. A million is a million. But I
mean I would say a million is a million. I
ain't make sixty a year. Yeah, but if I'm making
sixty a year, but he makes a great So we

(20:33):
talking about a million. If we talk about a million,
gonna do it? A million, and then we talk about
a team, let's say, fucking a team that's in the
A seed and he an All Star. That nigga, No,
he ain't never getting He not even thinking about going
to the finals. He don't give a fuck about home
court advantage. I'm not gonna have that anyway.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I feel that. But if you're playing your starters, most
most starters are on great teams. I would say most
starters are Luca Johnis, guys that and carry their team
to a top four seed. They're the ones and in
the games, and they're playing majority of the minute. So
it kind of like makes sense.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
How much how important is the is All Star weekend?
It's it portant that sponsors and this important fans. It is.
It's more for the fans. Take it away because these
are the stars of the NBA, so these fans want
to see them. We can't take it all, I mean away,

(21:30):
one be weird if we didn't have it, because it
is a it is a time. It is a decent time.
But it's tough though, because I feel for the guys.
I feel for the All Stars because, like I said,
when you got two ways, bitch, guys that don't play
that much and they're able to go relax, and then

(21:52):
you got your star players having to go because at
All Star Week they don't really chill. They got hell
advanced the schedule, helping on Run Your Race, they're helping
on Run Your rais, doing all these other ship and
like they're doing a whole lot of stuff. But that's
why I say, if they're not they doing all this
other stuff making extra bread, I feel like a million
they're gonna do something. They're not going to easy parisies

(22:14):
for free. That's a fee. They're making money. They're making
some bread. So if you go out there and hoop
and be like, oh guess what on top of that,
Wigi two mil to the winner on.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Top of it, and then the NBA is gonna fork
out twenty four million dollars for the game, I think
they spend that.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Much more money. Listen to the way the way money
they're making, the money they're trying to nigga people making
how much is Shay making a year?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
So here's a perspective, Right, you don't get that sponsorship
money no matter how hard they play. So why if
I know I'm gonna get the same result, Right, I
know I'm gonna get you here. I know I'm gonna
get the sponsors.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
So I'm gonna flip. I'm flipp it on you. Right.
So if I had I just signed a five million
dollar contra, I mean, a five year, one hundred million
dollar contract, why am I gonna play hard? Because I
know I'm getting Gary twenty five that's what I'm saying,
twenty million a year.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
But what I'm saying, why is the NBA? Why is
the NBA gonna pay more money? Because I'm still right
at the end of the day, charge I'm still gonna
get Google as my sponsor at this also game, regardless
of how hard you guys play. So why am I
gonna cut out of my bottom line? I don't see.
I don't see why that may woun do it?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Hey, let me help everybody understand. When you're in the
summer and you're playing pickup, you're trying to get yourself
back in shape. So that's a whole different You're playing something,
you're playing with something, you're playing to get yourself back
into playing shape. So that's a whole different, whole different
spectrum of the year. Like you don't want to be
in your best shape at the beginning of the year.
You're gonna fucking be done by All Star brek.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
You're working yourself in.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
You are you listen? Ray y'all two can talk about
it more than better than me. It's a marathon. It
is that ship is the season is a marathon. You
are playing every other day. Teams can't practice no more
because you are literally playing every other day. Damn there

(24:01):
and then you might have a back to back. It's tough.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I also feel like the All Star game now is
so much like the game now is so much faster,
so those guys are playing hard, contesting all threes. It's
it's also way more tough on your body.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Like All Star weekend four hundred and twenty twenty nine
million in total, that's.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
For the whole city, hey man.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
But at the end of the day, were competitors, right,
we competitors, right, We decided to.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
That's for the whole city. So like all the hotels
and food, that's not the NBA spent a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Competitors at the end of the day, and at the
end of the day, we want to see competitors compete.
That's all it is. We talked about it the other day. Right,
if they do the charity thing, when you're playing for
something bigger than yourself, you would get more. I feel
like you would get more out of these guys. Have fun,
have fun the first the first two quarters, have fun,
do what you want to do, a little tricks, shots, dunk,

(24:57):
all of that. But when they get to that full court,
even the first three quarters, make it fun for the fans.
Then after that, all right, now we're getting serious. Keep
it kind of close and then boom you turn that
you go into it or put it zero zero for
the fourth quarter. Whoever wins fourth quarter, that's who getting
the witch color. That's how and that's how. That's how
I break it down.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
You a fan of the lam Yeah, would you say?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
He said, I thought it was what you know, the
target score. That's how they did it that one year though.
That's how it took forever, though it took a while.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's actually it's a it's actually called elam at the
end of the day to e L A M. What
is that E lamb?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
But all right, ending where let's just say you're winning
one hundred and two to one hundred on me, they'll
put twenty four points and say you gotta score one
twenty four, one hundred twenty four target score. You only
got to score twenty two cause you're already at one two,
And I go, I gotta score twenty four, And whoever
scores the first gets the one twenty four first winstcha
do y'all like that?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's cool? Cool at the end of the day, we
here talking about at the end of the day, too
much is given, much is expected? Bro, Then did these
motherfuckers is all stars? Yeah, making good bank broll, get
the people what they want to see?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Oh right? A bonus incentive for being an All Star?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah? How much you got in your contract? It's in
your contract? Is individual mill right? Probably some people, It depends,
It depends.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think if it's an incentive, that kind of changed
my perspective. You should play hard. You are getting money already,
go there, right. Kind of different. But anyways, speaking of
bread Kawhi Leonard, we learned some new news again today.
If they are found guilty, there are some serious potential punishments.

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Some of these punishments can be Kawhi can lose his contract.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
You're not signed with the Clippers. He'd be forced to
pay back all the money to Aspiration. I don't know
how that. This is what I read in the Athletic article.
Do not come for me in the chat. And then
on the Clipper side, they can be fined up to
seven point five million dollars, obviously losing the draft picks,
and they could suspind so they could sorry suspend Steve
Balmer an other key personnel for one year from the

(27:15):
Clippers and charge them a million dollars each, which a
million to Steve Bamber is nothing. But those are some
of the repercussions.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
The one that stood out to me the most was
Kawhi giving that money back. When I first initially came
in this building and sat here, I said, there's no
way that. Did a little bit of research and it
was Joe Smith got in trouble for the same thing,
and they avoided his contract, but the same thing he

(27:43):
in trouble away. Sometimes they might they might avoid that thing,
but he'll make it back up, but they might avoid it.
My question is that they void it, does that mean
he goes to another team this year or does it
mean he has to play out this year and not
get paid at all? I don't know. I think investigate
the investigation process.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
But yeah, the investigation probably gonnake at least a year,
probably got three to six months. Those things gonna get
done right away.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
They avoid that contract that's being I'll be sick. Yeah, yeah,
I don't think it's gonna he'll make it up. I
don't think it's gonna ever get to that point. And
the NBA is gonna investigate, they gonna find, They're gonna
find mister Obama. He's gonna pay it, and everything is
gonna just be done with because he's not a bad owner.
He's one of the hes, probably one of the best

(28:32):
owners that the NBA's have. You don't want to piss
him off, you know what I'm saying. Okay, he did
something a little shaky, a little shady, you know, shaky,
little shady, guilty, innocent, you know, yeah, innocent to proven guilty,
but you know, let's he didn't know. So he's still
one of the best owners that Adam Silver has. So

(28:55):
just find the man. You gotta shipload of money find him.
That's going to move past this, you know what I'm saying.
Finally gonna be a tax right off. You know what
I'm saying, like, this is not going like they went
and won a championship exactly. They did anything crazy benefit
they didn't benefit from.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Why does the result change the punishment, though?

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Say, what crime is a crime?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Punishment?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Crime is the rules a rule.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
That's what I'm saying. Like, whether they want a championship
or not like that, I'm saying that shouldn't matter. That's
just my opinion though.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
So you're just all right, let let me get a
couple of me off here. You need me get five
draft picks. That's gonna still hurt them. Yeah, draft pick
and I ever do a damn crime with home. Guys,
your as going to jail? What you mean? Look, guys,
we did it, Okay, we fucking did it. No we didn't.
You did it? No we didn't. No, No, I'm more.

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I more.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Why is he saying, well, they didn't win, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
No, no, no, just give me your heart is what
it is.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Right by the way, before we continue on, just found
out shout to mel looks like the Nick will retires Jersey.
That's what it's reported.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in the building.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
There's a lot of internal support that he'll have his
jersey retired by the Next, which is really by Ian Baguley.
I'm sure you know Ian, Yeah, there before we do that,
before we talk about that too. And it just reported
that he also were you in the twenty fifteen team? No, right, No,
he was offered to payoffs the early entire salary when
he got shot outside of the club. Again, Carmelo offered

(30:27):
to play clear clear Anthony early his entire year salary
after he got cut by the Next because he got
shot at the club. That's big up a mellow shout
out to mellow man.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
What was his salary?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
A mill? There's still a lot of money. You're just
gonna give up, yo. Let me get a mill.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Remember, let me get a mill. Let me making sixty millions,
fifty million. Let me get want a mill.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Let me get a mill.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
You want to mean game, you gotta go get shot
a shot. It's a difference. Enough bad because he got.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Sasa Melo still took his offer to take care of
the man. That's all I'm saying, Mellow, No.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
You're a real man. Kat said, Hey, this shit getting
out of hand. Come on, Pat, you sound delusional.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Brother, Yeah, okay, cool. So a couple of other things
on the Kuai situation. Supposedly the Clippers have started to
lose faith internally or probably moving I don't want to
say moving on. The words are might be fed up
with building around him and then uh. He reportedly asked
in twenty twenty one during the twenty nineteen during the negotiations,

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the Lakers to give him part ownership of the team,
which legally can't be done. Well, Dennis Robertson did access
to private play in whatever a house and guaranteed off
or endorsement money any last loss before we move on
with Hawhi.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Guys, after you hear that shit, that's crazy. Come on.
The nigga had leverage that year. He did have the level.
He had a lot of levers that year, and you
got a lot of levers, but not that type of level.
He had leverage, bro, not to get no, damn but
part ownership of the Lakers. What leverage? He went to
a team for six months and won them a championship?

(32:05):
I don't care the ultimate goal right when Kobe Bryan
and Lebron James ain't got part ownership? Yeah, part ownership
of something a hell of leverage. No, I'm with Ray.
You can't ask for ownership. If Kobe you can't ask
for ownership, is wild ownership. I'll try to remember, Yes, business,
that's the only thing I was tripping about about. This

(32:26):
is a business, and at the end of the day,
you can ask for it. What's the worst I can
say is no, let me show this start from the beginning. Alright, cool,
if you're close, Mop, don't get fed, right.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Even if you got your championship, does Kawhi Leonard on
the business side bring you money like a Lebron and
Kobe to give ownership because I'm not giving him ownership.
I'd rather pay him one hundred and fifty million dollars
salary if I couldn't give him ownership. He doesn't sell
tickets like that, I'd rather.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Give it like a Leonard doesn't sell tickets, No, he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
He doesn't sell tickets like Steph. Yeah, you're gonna compare
him to Lebron, but that's what that's what.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
You get ownership to.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
You give ownership to a guy that actually is like
a Luka.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I'm gonna be honest, and you gotta owner every time
you talk about something, you got to throw a Golden
State player there I'm going to tell you this, yeah,
step twenty nineteen. I don't know if you can say.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
That that's fair.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I'm asking you, guys, we're talking about that was the
time he was asking for this ship. He was healthy,
he was the best playing he was wanted at that time,
better than bron at that time. Nowhere actual ownership. He
wont a championship of interest does matter. He's considered to
be the best player.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
So he was the best player.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Was the best player this year?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Even you said it he was, I got you all.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
No, No, he he was. But s c A was
m v P and he won a championship. So to
the world, c A was the best player. Yo. Chat.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
What do you guys think? Would you guys have offered
Landuilander ownership?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
No, I mean we don't need we don't really need you.
And then you're talking about the bid the most, the
best what organization revenue share team in the in the NBA?
I think them in New York.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, Golden State has is worth the most amount of money?
Golden State say has an eight I think it's eight
million dollars. They're the highest value team in the league,
hands down.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Now, I ain't talking about that, talking about who makes
the most.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Money, who makes the most money, makes makes money every years, exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I know it's I'm talking about. You're probably saying who
brings in the most revenue the Lakers. For an active
player to have any type of ship is wild.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
That's what we're talking about, exactly. So why he even
asked that, That's what I'm saying. That's the point.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I mean, that's why he asked for the Raptors ownership.
I mean, the least ownership for the NHL team.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I don't blame we're bad at the man because the money.
He wants some bread, you want some statement. You know,
the ball gonna stop bouncing at some point. Ship don't
get fair. Come on, bro. All they can say is
what did anyone ever have other than Kawhi Leonard in
twenty nineteen. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Also going to fact check Ray and myself, it actually
was the worst. They did the most revenue last year
out of the NBA. Yeah, they did seven hundred and
eighty one million dollars in revenue.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
When you think about the NBA here, you think of
first the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I'm just we're just talking about the revenue aspect of it.
The words are the most revenue.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, I was going off the most famous organization ever,
not ever, because the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
But I would say Lakers are top five, right, Yeah,
you guys like Man United three.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
No, no, no, I don't think they top three. You
don't think the Lakers because you got Cowboys, you got Yankees, Yanks,
you man, you have those like Barcelona.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, you're right, they probably top They've top ten for sure,
top ten.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
All right, Well let's listen, we'll see, we'll see what
they lose. Next thing for y'all, top ten players under
twenty five before we put up any list or any graphics.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Man, I don't even know. I don't even know these
dudes ages.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
So yeah, y'all don't know. I'll give you guys some
names and Wemby Tyres Cade, Paolo J. Doub Tyres, Maxie Garland,
Mobiley Cooper, Luca, you know, Lucas twenty six, Alprin Sengoon, Hey,
hey all men, Amen Thompson, Zion, Scottie Barnes, Chatting Lamelow.

(36:27):
That's gonna be our list. But those are your some
of your top twenty five players. I just put him
there because people probably put him there. So what y'all got?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Who who's number one? Number one? Picking the dreamt So yeah,
you gotta put him in?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
And who y'all got?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
No, no, no, take it back? Number one. I gotta
put wem b b number one be different. Wemby is
different him they wanted to but right now is number
one is number one? Right now? As far as resume,
you think so yeah? Now, yeah, she's twenty the damn

(37:01):
look at twenty seven young and.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
He spent a year in college just like seven years.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
They are still young though, that's what's crazy. Him and
Lucas twenty six to twenty seven years old. League in
a good place. Man. So here's my thing though, here's
my thing with international players. But that's another another topic
to you.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Three is as team is really good? Like if when
we had the same team, a similar team built around
the talent, would he be doing and did?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Like you got a solid team now solid? Now you
stay healthy? Who in the Spurs right now?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yaro Castle Castle, that's.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
A nice back court. Good bye court they got They
signed somebody else too, though somebody else I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Harrison Bars Harrison Belta Harrison Feld tar heel.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I thought they had somebody else another big Dylan Harper,
Dylan Harper. I like young boy, I like him.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
But yeah, what y'all got who who yes to go
back to?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
You're not gonna be no, no.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think he takes that step with the air Fox
or they have Caldon Johnson, come dog, Devin, Yeah stop
but he let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Stop, bro, you named the same niggas that was on
the team last year. Hold hold up.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Wemby takes a step. The air Fox didn't really play
all year. He was injured.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
That's not enough.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
That's that's not enough, not to win a championship.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
The championship. They're gonna be respected. I love, I love
when we do this. Fellas. They're gonna you're gonna respect him. Now,
we're gonna respect them. They're gonna be a cake walk.
Why listen, you're relying on Winby to take a step, understood?
Is that is that his job to take a step
this year? All right?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Third year?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Are they better in New Orleans? Yes? Yes? Yes? Healthy
who knew yes? Healthy?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Though Zion and Wemby.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
The Thing is that I don't like how you say
yes because you start sweating. Then you start bobbing your
head because it's how is this a debate? How's it
a debate? What the New Orleans? New Orleans? Are you saying.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
New Orleans is not New Orleans?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Decent? Okay? He just named off their roster named New Orleans.
New Orleans got Uh, they got they got Jose Grand
theft Otto, respect, they got Bay Okay, Jeremiah Fears, Jordan Hawkins,
Herbert Jones, Kevon Looney, Uh, Jaylen McDaniels, Trey Murphy, de

(39:47):
Jonty Murray, Jordan Poole, Derrick Queen, Jared Springer, Zion Williamson.
They're even, They're even, they even? Why are you at Bay?
Who's the second best Who is the third best player
on that team? Third Rookie of the year Stephan Castle.
So you're taking Stephan Castle over Jordan of the Year? Yep? Really? Absolutely?

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You think? Not right now? I'm taking.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
The third best player on the team right now.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I'm going Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
He's just speaking because he's you Cam.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
No, I'm not better than Trade Murphy. He's not is
not better than Trade Murphy. Okay, but but but will
you agree? Trying to get who's better Zion?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Right now? Who's better Zion?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Out there? We really have nothing to talk about. We
argue about New Orleans. No Zion, we got Zion? Who
you got? Okay? Taking Zion right now? I'm out of
your mind. You see what Zion did when he was healthy.
He was giving the Lakers forty healthy Anthony David.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
He couldn't know li Wenby changes the whole defensive like
Webby's up.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
If healthy, the team around Zion. If I could get
a Zion, if I could get a healthy if I
can get a healthy if I could get a healthy Zion,
I'm taking Zion. I'm just what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
No, don't do drugs, Bro, That ain't gonna workouldn't all right?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
So back back to my hard his arms don't stop going.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Daron Fox or John Tay Murray, Daring.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Fox, Daron Fox Fox, not that landslide.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
It's a landslide for me.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
It's not a landslide.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Serious rays.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
So for the last three seasons, that's injury we're talking about.
If he's has to bro the last two years, the
Aaron Fox has been hurt. But yes, and he's not
even starting to be.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Here, are we can compare on the athletic guard that
had an achilles was an achilles hair right?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I want you. I don't think you respect No, you
literally said I can trip of doubles.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
What is Damian Li gonna do? His games are predicated
on athleticism, you, Jontay Murray's game is predicated on.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's not part of it is no no, no, no, no,
no long arms play, defense, rebounds, a great passer. You're
talking about de Aaron Fox be punching people.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
But Dearon doesn't have a major injuries. What I'm trying
to say to you, he has a foot injury. Nick
knack injuries, though, what's the knickknack?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
If you out for the whole second half of the year,
that's for like a month and a half. Oh my god. Okay,
so you got so the debate is you got New Orleans.
What I said, it's even it's not a landslide that
the Spurs are better than the Pelicans. I can't wait
to that game. Play better than Dallas, better than Dallas.

(42:48):
Surprised you say, yeah, the way you love Wimby San Antonio.
Better than the Warriors, No, Houston, no Clippers, Lakers, Minnesota,
no Phoenix. No, yes, yes, Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
No. I think it's only booked there.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I mean Green is there may the starting five for
Phoenix Sons right now? J Dylan Brooks. I think Dylan
Brooks Jalen book. Okay, give me their bigs. You got
Bow Richards, you got Mark Williams. They got a four
over there that I forgot, though you don't need him.

(43:30):
They don't need him exactly. They're better than Phoenix. They
got Grayson Allen, who's gonna go book shooter.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I think their team is better.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
They're better than Portland. Yes, Nolan's gonna be okay, Portland's
gonna be all right, Orland's gonna be solid. Look at
Portland Ross. I'm serious, I got it right here. They
got they got Denny who got uh Vita He is good?
You know he was good? Really well.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
They got got Jeremy Grant.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Jeremy Grant, school Henderson, Drew Holliday, uh d C. Donovan
said Robert Williams. And as a coach, y'all holiday over there,
bro tripping, who's the number one player versus Drew Holliday?

(44:25):
They better?

Speaker 1 (44:26):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Hold on? Hold on? Like Weiby is just going to
just win the game by himself. They got bodies over there.
They got another seven foot over there that can bangle him.
They got another one off the bitch. Who you got, Jeremy?
You got Drew Holiday? What are you serious? What they
better than Sack? Holiday is sitting on all of that
with Dan Fox. They better than Sack, better than Shot

(44:49):
and they better It's not even close. It's by far,
not by far. You say san Antonio is better than Sack.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I will say this though, it's pretty good. Santonio was
hovering around five hundred last year, right until when we
got injured. Right he has blood clot Chris pauling there anymore?
That's a big loss.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
They better than Okay see hell?

Speaker 3 (45:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Are they better than Utah? Hell? Yes? Yes? Are they
better than Memphis? No? No, they're not. You bet not, Charlie, Charlie,
you bet not? Bro debate debate?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Is Charlie smoking some ship?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Possibly? Are they better than Bro? So we just named
they're better than three teams in the West. Oh, they
d got big fellow Phoenix. Phoenix. The dude got a
big boy from Duke he got.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
He's a rookie, though he gonna get cooked don't get
cooked early. You know how it is as a big,
it's tough to play as a big especialism.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
It's a debate though what san Antonia leans. It's a debate.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Quick question for y'all. What's the hardest position to transition
as a rookie? Is a point guard? Guards?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah? Point guard? Point guard?

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Because before it used to be a big right point.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Every every night you got sniggers up. You're getting no
nights off, you get no nights off. I'm being I'm
being with you. Youn't getting no night one night? Yeah,
think about all the point guards right now, all the team,
and think all the point I'm just saying, I'm not
even playing there. So just think about all the point
guards today, Trey, Yeah, yeah, for sure, job you got

(46:27):
off Steph Curry.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
I told you who's the best point guard. Who's the
best point guard? Actually know.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Exactly step top three. I'm just saying, just think about
just think about Charlotte. You still got to deal with
the Miller ball.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
But I feel like the small for position, you got
to see somebody every night.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
How important you gotta deal with Drew Holliday. That's hell.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Down Toronto. You gotta deal with quick. That's that's how
on one side.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Okay, Houston, you gotta deal with Fred Afleet that niggas
a minute as you got to deal with did John T. Murray,
Kay Cutaham New York, Jaylen Briston, Lakers, Luca Okay, see
Shay Orlando jus he got bet ship.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
He coming back, He is coming back, all right, So
let's get back to our original argument.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Can we put the list.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Let's put the list of Peter.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Put the list up, Pete.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
So so y'all, but y'all have what y'all have, Zion
over Wemby.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Though I have Wemby over Zion.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
North Carolina, North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I'm going with my South Carolina boy. I don't give
higher ups get drug So we'll get the list up, Peter. Today,
let's get some drug tests going on, all right.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
So I got a couple of tears and will grade them.
But I think that's easy. Zion. You guys think he's
a superstar. I can't see that the bottom left Zion superstar, Yes,
super superstar words super superstar. Tyre Taliburton.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Why we skipped garlic.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
We're gonna get to its.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Haliburton is a superstar one.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Okay, easy ones. First, Peter, uh, where's Wenby? Wemby superstar?
Do I put Wemby there? Come on, that's my fault. Okay, okay,
Now let's.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Go to the We know Wemby's up there, Kay Cunningham.
He a star teer, all star teer. Okay, superstar yet,
let's talk about it. All star teer. There you go.
He's not a superstar, No, not yet. This year he'll
be a superstar follows all star follow star to star teer.
Chat is a star star star, just a star star,

(48:37):
just a star.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Star teer, all star tear Sangoon, Yes, that's Chat, Peter,
put him in star Come on, there you go, Sanggoon
is all star. The white guy, white guy Peter with
the red jersey a star, Lamello, Lamello star star star,

(49:01):
Tyre's Max is a star all star tier.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Wasn't he an all star? All these dudes are also
Lamello was an all star? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
But but is that like.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Based on the what do you guys? Cooper is a
was starter, but Cooper is started the other white guy
Peter knows who Cooper is.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Of course he star starter Peter and then okay, Evan Mobley,
where you anna put Evans? All stars? Star star, a star,
he's a star defense play Yeah, he's a star. And
then JDub is an all star no doubt. Yeah yeah,
I think the harder one. I think, what what do
you guys?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Amen? Amen Thompson, he's a star? No, he's a d
Pauls what the is the d like?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Like?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
They don't? There's a bench player, he's a star.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Don't start, he's a start. You started?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
He's a star this year, star this year. I take
that starter.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I'm a star this year. What do you think? He's
a star? Starter the starter? He's a starter.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
He was a defensive. He was a defensive.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Started not listening to home. It's three to one he
started the star said starter? Starter, starter, starter, starter, play
its jump shot. I can't do it yet? All right, Max?
He is an all star tear bro. He's a star.

(50:36):
He's a star. He's not an all star.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
What you got, Maxie? Him as a star?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Kurk? What you got star? All star? Kurk still three
to put him at star? He's all star, Maxie, they're
doing you dirty on this different He's still a star.
Hold on, let's talk about it. Paul George was injured.
You think that Paul Andrel are playing He's gonna be
All Star again. I know we haven't seen it. Bro.

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Is that fair to say?

Speaker 1 (51:06):
No, it's not fair.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I'm not fair. We haven't seen it. This spans out
against the nick.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Let's assume everybody is healthy. That's let's always make that
a something. He's a star, Rosters healthy star.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
We haven't seen it right now. All star. No, he's
a star. No, No, he's an All Star. What I'm
saying is we haven't seen all three of them healthy
at the same a star.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Bro Bro Stars three to one, you lose this one.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
He's a star. This is all stars. Like stars, you guarantee,
you'll be guaranteed saying should be All Star Mobley and Maxi.
They play with other guys. They play with other guys
that are all Stars, so you know they may take
They ain't gonna take two guys every time from their team.
You see what I'm saying. So you're not confident chet

(51:54):
LaMelo you guys in my opinion, no, we changed it.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Hold that is what I guess.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
That's fair mindset. If you're an All Star every single year,
like we feel like that you should be an All
Star teer. You believe that Tyres Max is gonna be
All SAR every single year.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
With m being on his team and Beat is healthy,
he has a great chance.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
All right, let's put on I think Max is the
second best player single year. If he's an also, let's
put some money.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I think he's he's the second best player on that team.
You want to put some money on it, I'm gonna
put some money because I love taking dollars every single year.
If he's an All Star, let's take it. Let's put
up he's this year. Why because Philadelphia's not gonna be.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
A residual bat Okay, cool, chake on it.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
You don't think they're gonna be healthy this year. I
think they're gonna be healthy, gonna be They're never healthy.
But Max, he's gonna be healthy. He's gonna do what
he's gonna do again every year he does it. What
is Garland?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
He's a starter for.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Me, He's not stop stop starting. This man's crazy man
the gold Field Brolet go for you. Oh this is
tough start. I'm gonna put him as a starter right now,

(53:07):
But I think he could become a star. I like
him starter starter, I like Garland, Garland Peter.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
He's a starter.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
He's a star. He's a star. Starter is a star.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Who Scotty Barnes, That Scotty Barnes.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Where does he start? He started? Why is he a star?
Is star?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Because he's a fringe all star? He's been an all
star before. He was like twenty six?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Where was he all star? He was two years ago,
but he was like he was, Yes, Hey, how do
you know he made a star game? It was a
replacement he was, he was. He was a replacement in
the East. He averaged twenty eight and six. Well he
is here. Yes, he is the franchise player. Put him up,
put him up, franchise. He's a star star. He's a

(53:49):
franchise player in Toronto. He's a star. My four guy.
He's not better than Be better than be? No, he's not. No,
he's not better than Be. I'm sorry, Brandon, not better
than He's a starter. That's debate. That's a debate. He's
a starter to me, what the b I average numbers? Lie?
Don't lie? When when he was an allsong last last year?

(54:14):
Didn't play last year? I didn't play last Okay, so
whenever he was take year, Scotty taking two guys from Toronto?
Who are you taking? I take Scotty, I take Scotty
Barnes because you're gonna get defense. You gonna get rebounds
from Scotty Barnes. I'm not giving All Star for defense.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I will say this, guys, I will say this. I
think it is depending on what your team just started,
are you Are you gonna.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Say you're what was all started defense?

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Always gonna say you're gonna always pick Brandon Ingram over
Scotty Barnes. I think it's situational, situational.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I think who's having a better year.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I think it's situational based on what your team.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Who's having a better year. Know who's having a better year.
Take Scotty Barnes best year and be his best year,
and that's it.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I'll compare him right now.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Is going it's going to be beyond. It's gonna be
Scottie Barnes. No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I average scored average before and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Bro be on average twenty six. Yes, I gotta see
this because ingles the score.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
But he is one of the cold.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
He's cold. I'm not saying he's not cold, bro, Bro.
He made over onered and fifty.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Twenty five sorry, twenty five, Okay, he's average twenty fifty
five six and five was his best year.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Twenty five six. That's solid, not more than something, all right, Bro,
that's fucking amazing, Bro. Scotty Barnes the average over twenty
two games. Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Scotty's also year two years ago was twenty eight and six.
Twenty what twenty eight?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Twenty we got we got it? You gotta twenty fucking
Peter bro twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Higher up, it's twenty points eight rebounds on hold.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Wait a minute, Yeah, it's close, it's not. I can't
go back. You're going slow it down, nigga Peters.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
You know Peter and even invited to the cookout, Bro, Yes.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Per game night rebounds, assists. I needed best years. Give
me best year year, are you?

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Scotty Barnes's best year is twenty points eight rebounds and
six assists by twenty five, twenty five, five and six, Look.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
A Scotty, Scotty that the better sets.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I think it depends on what you need.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
He is saying twenty eight. He's saying twenty bees. Put
on the team. Twenty five. You know he's saying twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
He says twenty twenty and eight rebounds.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
A twenty points.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah, yeah, twenty eight and six like each was a stat.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
B I you gotta misinformation. You're throwing me home. You
could have twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Holdo, hold on, hold on. You didn't listen because they
understood the signment.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
I did it. They said san Antonio is a playing team.
Who's getting in on that? It was one hundred.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Let's go through the west right now. You want to
bring up the list or y'all, I got the list.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Man, san Antonio is nice. If they stay healthy, san
Antonios are playing team. They are competing for a playoff
spot if they stay healthy one thousand percent. So that means.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
If they're healthy and those guys taking a step forward
that Burton says, I agree, and Castle and so.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Hi, they better move san Antonio to the east. They
got to be in the first They got to be
in the top ten, correct, Yeah, they gotta be in
the top ten. They better move them to the east.
They got So we're gonna name the playoff teams right now, Dallas, Denver,
Golden State, Houston. They playoff teams Dallas, Denver, go to State, Houston, Clippers, Lakers, Minnesota, Memphis, OKC, Memphis.

(57:47):
That's nine San Antonio could get in there? Are you?
Who else is who? I didn't say New Orleans, sack
in New Orleans. I didn't hear fucking New Orleans. We're from?
Is it New Orleans or New Orleans? I gotta get
this ship right New Orleans either you missed, you miss Phoenix.

(58:08):
Depends who you're talking, New Orleans or New Orleans. Who
you're talking. I was naming the guaranteed guaranteed. There's no
guaranteed playoff teams barring injury. There's nine, so seck New Orleans, Phoenix,
Utah and the Spurs Utah, Utah, Utah's cook. So are

(58:31):
they better than Phoenix? Are they better than New Orleans?
I can't say that, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
You can't say that.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
I just did.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Okay, Okay, you said that.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I did, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
How much better are they? How many games are they
better than them?

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I don't know. We're gonna find how much games you're.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
So confident, how much like put your money where your mother?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
How many games they're better? I guarantee they. I'll bet
that that they'll have a better und New Orleans one, Phoenix, Phoenix,
they have bet they have a better to have a
better record. That definitive, right, definitive. It should be easy then, right,
ten games better?

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Five games?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
How many know? How many games?

Speaker 3 (59:10):
That?

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Confident? Then the better they are better? Confident I'm so
confident they're not better. I'm saying you're not gonna bet me. Though.
Issue is that he says that they're way better. It's
easy call.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
If it's an easy call, how many games are they better?

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Then I don't know. Then you can't say it's an
easy call. Okay, five games better, five games better. I
take you up on that. No, I don't like to
put numbers.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
I'll take you up on that they're gonna have a
better record than I'm not taking you up on that
because I do believe Antonio is better. But you make
it seem like it's an easy call. I'm not saying
it's an easy you literally said that earlier. Never be
an easy call because we don't know how the season
is going to turn out. Anybody gonna be healthy. Five
games and that's not a lot. That's not it's not
a lot. I feel like that's fair a lot. That's fair.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
I've gained better than New Orleans and that's not san
Antonio is better than both teams, so they take the beat. Okay,
let's think what is the bet. Let's make the same
better records five games New Orleans has played like the
over and under ship. You give me, you give him? No,
I don't like that. Trying to put me in a
blender right now, fam, I'm not rolling, bro. San Antonio

(01:00:16):
gotta play Dallas four times. They gotta play Houston four times.
They gotta play Okay, see four times, Antonio's respectable team.
You gotta play a lot of good teams fucking times.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Let's keep it moving, yo, Let's keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
You didn't want to bet me, though, home, I told
you one of your niggas confident, But.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I'm confident on the five games under the five games.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I don't like that, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Anyways, all right, so Peter, can you bring up the
tier lists again? We gotta rank. We're gonna ranked them
from our top five, our top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Sorry, let me in there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
No, No, We're gonna rank them in order, the tier
list in order. You got Zion, right, I know?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
The first game on October second, is it? Yes? Preseason?
First preseason game? Yeah? Bro? Crazy? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
So who's number one for you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
You got Zion, I got Anthony. Wimby's on here. I
got Wemby. When I got Anthony, he's right, I got
I got Wemby. Have the resume Wemby, I go Weby
Weby second. I go Wenby to Zon three only because
ain't being healthy. But if was healthy, I will put him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
To Okay, it was and then ty I got over
Tres actually on that, I got Kate over. Tyres has
done more. But I'm talking about this year. I feel
I got kid. That's what I'm saying this year. This
year is out this year bro, No, but if we

(01:01:43):
see what if we see Kate what he does this year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
You don't know what. We don't know what Tyres did
last year. Bro, you can't like he's he's four.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Bro listen, come on, when you say what Tyres did,
please explain what do you What do you mean by that?
Because yesterday do I have to explain? Do you sew it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Can I give you context?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
What you're gonna give me? Hit the most game winners
last year than any.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
That you said you think the team is still gonna
make the playoffs without their best player and losing their
second best player.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
So is that a system team? They just got to
get the team.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Okay, So he had a great team.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
That team with the Pistons is not making.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
The playoffs without kid.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
They would make it with Tyrese, But that's my They
would make it with Tyreeves.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
But that's my point. A lot of Indiana successes because
you guys say, Rick carl is a genius and it's
a good team.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
They might have made the playoffs they had they did
not have Dennis last year. My fault.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
But my point is is that I do not think
that that team makes the playoffs with okad, and I
think that you and we all agree that that Indiana
is a really good team.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
So what's wrong with that? So now Halliburton, all those
championships right now? A great point, the right, right, right, right? Wait,
let Steph really have all those championships.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
I'm glad No he does not, But I'm glad you
brought it up because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Without him twenty he did. With twenty he won with it.
Possibly we're not really talking about Stephan them the same way.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
For sure, for sure or not? I get to understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I'm gonna be honest. I don't know if Stephan is
still there, if I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Don't get hurt, hey don't get there, maybe not, maybe not,
but that's what but that's but that's history.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
But it doesn't matter. Like like me and Charlie just said,
it's not a debate, bro, what halla Burton did last year,
what he's done, cutting him in front of him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Right now, he still has to do more right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
We're doing the list right now, but we're doing the
list up. No, we're doing the list right now. Take
this season, of course, you're gonna take this season. Play
doesn't hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
What he does this season. I think he's gonna do
incredible things this season that will play.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yes, I believe nobody denying that he's doing. He's gonna
do great things.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
That is my point. Agree and Wow Burn actually agrees with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I'm gonna be completely honest. I don't know if okayc
wins that last game, if Halliburn don't get hurt, and
that's cool he was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
I'm just saying, what k is gonna do this year
is going to be like very Lebron Lucas.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Oh my god, I was like this now I know
why Burton is saying haller Burn is not ahead of
kid is from New York No, because yeah, I know why.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
All right, yeah, all right, we'll keep that. We'll keep
that on the side, all right, cool, So everybody's cool
with that. Everybody's good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
We're good. Antonio is better than New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
We can take that down, Peter, What do you guys
think about mister easy money sniper KD saying that he
will play in the twenty twenty eight Olympics if she's
not washed, he'll be the only player playing five. I
think in the US Mellow played four.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
How old is KD?

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
He's thirty seven or thirty six?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
He's thirty? Yeah, he's he can do it. Lebron did it? Ship?
Why can't KD do it? It's a fucking spot ups
not more than spot up?

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Can you believe this was ten years ago? Almost, Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
I played against k D when he was in uh Seattle,
super Sonic me too. Just keep that in mind. That's
a long ass fucking time ago. Maeah, I don't remember
seeing the super Sonic girl. Yeah, Bro, that nigga is
so good. Look at him. Seven listen, seven, he's not

(01:05:30):
doing that he's gonna be doing the same ship. I
know we're not even maybe a little step slower, but
it's still effective.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Veteran, some veteran leadership.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
The most effective uh oh oh Usa player. His game
fits perfectly, Bro Burden is right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
What do you say effective? It's like efficient he.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Did for the international game. KD fits, Yes, he does.
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Yeah, I think he's the most interchangeable player you could play.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
But he said before like he's the most plug and
play player in the league, hands down, fit anything.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Agree, God, damn Houston gonna be good, he said, it's
so good, good God. That division have to be a
dog fight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
I don't know if you right though, they do have
to play the MAVs four times, and and Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Who else in that division? Memphis?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
That's a tough.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Division, Bro, tough division. But okay, that's a tough division.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Do all four of them getting in playoffs? We're not
getting in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Who's the fifth?

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
I think it's like, okay, see.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Okay, season that division?

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Two? Yeah, get in get in playoffs? Who's all of them? Houston, Yep, Dallas?

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Okay, see I don't think the division Okay, See, I
think is in the northwest one, which is like with Utah.
Who's the fifth field?

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Looking fine? I was about to say, there'll make some
troubles for your boys down there, make it if they
stay healthy, they're making bro What the hell, Charlie, if
they go to if they go to the players bro

(01:07:24):
To they go to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
The East, the Pelicans, that's the fifth team.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Like I said, so it's only gonna be two teams
go out of there, two or three. San Antonia San
Antonio was playing with five hundred before Wimby got hurt.
He said, flirt, I mean right, flirt for five hundred.
Well you think five hundred get you in the whist?
You gotta go to the East to make the playoffs.
But I think they got a little bit of help.

(01:07:51):
And I think they haven't, but they got the Fox.
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Chris Paul is great for young teams. We see what
Chris Paul did.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Okay, So you know thirty eight Christ, thirty eight year
old Christ, he's my age forty. You put a lot
of steak in Castle.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Now what does that mean? Though?

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
When I like Castle, I'm just saying with them young
dudes coming up. They're gonna be. They're gonna be. I
think they're still a year or two away. I think
they need another go. I haven't feel I saw way
he shaved this ship ball. He want to go spend
time with the monks. Seriously, there's the reason they tried

(01:08:33):
to go get the reason why you do that. There's
a reason they tried to go get. Why are you
doing that, Charlotte? He get better? Yeah, for sure, it's
gonna come back here. And he put on some muscle.
He put on some muscle too. He gonna come back
with some ship. All right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Well, listen, this topic is a little interesting. I don't
know if you'll dive in too much. You guys might
have some strong opinions. Did you guys see that nb
NBC Sports is going to start putting in the listen
pretty much at every single bench so they can give
more insight on teams and their decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Put an endless at the end of the bench.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Yeah, and they can be in huddles and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
It's gonna be allowed. That's allowed. No way, there's no
way that's gonna be allowed. Not the ship that we
can talk about on the bench and freely. They can't
do that censorship. Because they can't do that type, you
won't be.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Able to listen to it. But they're gonna have people
that can listen to it and be able to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
That's what I'm saying. Even with those people, they're gonna
have to sign contracts that they can't put certain stuff out.
What's no way, there's no way. What's the ship? We
say on that bench, snow fuck away and somebody on
there that can listen to the snow A lot of conversations.
Let me this a lot of extra ship, extra ship.

(01:09:49):
But let me just get violated.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
But let me ask you guys this, what's the difference
in that and being first one behind the bench?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
First? What first roll behind the bench? They still can't
part of the team.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Oh yeah, because then it's like two rows of the team.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Right, Yeah, Like you got you got the behind the
bench behind.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
And you got what about the person that's right beside
the end of the bench. I think that's why we're
gonna place them. I don't know for sure, but it's
the coaches. They're not are you talking about the only place?
The only place that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Has that is like the Lakers. What kind of insight.
They're gonna be providing, like more information you get. I
think they like looking in on the huddle and ship
and I'm like, bro, sometimes the huddle sometimes you don't
want but sometimes coaches don't want you in a huddle.
They drawn up players and talk about you don't want you, and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
That I presume, right, think think about this, right, A
lot of us say that people don't know the game floor,
A lot of us, a lot of you three right,
will say that people don't know the game because they
didn't play basketball, right, which is fair. I get it.
I don't know the game to level you guys. You
guys know all that stuff. I understand that. Obviously we

(01:10:57):
have a different opinion on it because we just look
on the outside. Maybe that's bridging the gap. Maybe that's
what's they're to do bridge gap, is be able to
give more insight.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
I hear you about that, and I agree with that.
I think it depends on who that person is. They
could be out there saying some.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Bullshit you know what, you know what TOO didn't say.
It could be like their analysts, like like Steve Nash,
you know what I'm saying. It could be like their
their their actual form, and now that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Is what it said. Yes, is doing this now if
it's somebody like that, if it's like that, I will
be okay with that because they know, okay, I'm not
going to say this exactly. You know what I'm saying.
I give you this information, but I give you but
but so much information because they will understand, all right,
that's not needed to be said on national television. So

(01:11:47):
that's where I think the bridge needs to be right there,
because no offense to writers and analysts and stuff. If
they hear something they they think can get them going,
make them go viral, they gonna say it. Fuck man,
you know what I'm saying, Steve Nash, don't need that
mellow mellow with NBC. With NBC, Melo, I think it's

(01:12:09):
what Amazon's events.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
He's with Amazon, I believe Melot NBC. Yeah, you know,
he's with NBC. He's with NBC. MIC's with NBC. But
he's not gonna be do on bench. So I'll read
it to you guys, Michael Jordan NBC. It will be
used exclusively for twenty three. Rather than sitting next to
the play by player, the analysts will be positioned near
the assistant coaches of their assigned team during the action,

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listening on huddles and time wills and delivering information straight
from the bench. And it doesn't say who it will
be who how much y'all think they paid MJ.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
She's probably getting forty fifty a year now, he's getting
up there. Yeah, he's up the forty fifty a year here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Oh my, if you're MJ, you don't move for less
than that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
It's whatever, it's time. What's Tom Brady getting? He getting
some stupid so he's probably equipment to that or more. No,
is he getting more? He getting more? Yeah, he's the
goat in basketball, Tom Brady goat with football. So whatever
time Brady got, maximouts.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
NBC lineup is crazy. Guys ready for this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
They got crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
They got Reggie Miller, Jamal Crawford, Brant Hill, T, Mac
Carmelo VC and obviously the goat.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
That's crazy, Bonefie Hoopers. A lot of money NBC guy,
they got a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
NBC spend some bank for sure. So so you guys,
you guys don't think it's like you guys think there's
validity to teaching people the game where you're just don't
think I think it's a It's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
A good angle for the normal fan to get right.
They're almost up there with us. Bro. It's dope, I think.
I think it's dope. Cool, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Moving along, Al Horford, Uh, it's reported that he will
be signing with the Warriors once the worst he out
the coming situation. Basically what I wanted to have the
conversation We've talked about enough. Do you guys even think
the Warriors will compete for a championship this year? So
their starting line up will be Steph Curry, I want
to say Moses Moody because he started the playoffs last year,

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Jimmy Butler, Draymond Greenen, Al Horford.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
The reason I say no is because good addition, though
they weren't that much better than Houston and now they
just added fucking Kevinor.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
What about the fact that I'm just throwing up the
Devil's advocate that Jimmy, Steph and Draga a whole summer
training off season together because that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
They didn't add ship Bro, they didn't add nothing. I
think they need to trade, come in and get something
for him. I'd like to see him go to Sack
and they get somebody like Zach Levine.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
So if they pick up Malik Monk, Let's say they
get Milik Monk.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I was that Levin. I like Malik if you could
get Malik to be a six man. But I like Zach.
I think Zach Levine could be good in the system
like that when he don't got to do a lot
of ice old ball, because I think he can shoot.
He's athletic as hell. We know that. I don't want
to see him in a different and a better situation
because I actually like his game. I want to see
second didn't get out of Sacramento. I think if you

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have the best shooter on the world on your team,
you got a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Yeah, I mean you've got best shooter thirty seven now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Saying I can still shoot at forty one, but.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
You ain't moving four miles a game. You still shoot
back to back.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
I'm just saying they need a young they need a
young go getter. They need a young they need a
young guy that can go get them buckets. I like buddy,
but no, that ain't gonna be I like out that
you can throw the ball to like a dum to
go get you a bucket. That's what they had when
they made that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Why do you need Malik if you have Buddy, Because
Milik can create off the dribble, you can.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Go get his own back. He can go get a bucket.
But you got Mingo already then even commit?

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Is that too many liabilities on the defensive end? But
he is not a good defender. The league is not
known for his defense. Yeah, they're gonna be getting cooked
on the other end.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
That's the issue, bro, that's the issue with him. They're
not a contender. They're not They're not a contender. They're
sure it's hell not better than Denver. They sure it's Heil,
not better than the Lakers. They are playoff team, but
the playoff team they continued for a championship. I don't know.
They are not better than never, They are not better
than Okay, we like okay, see it's still the team

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to be is still the team We don't know over okay, see,
you just want a championship. You gotta show the man
you are the champions team.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
You're the champion. The best team walking of the season,
they are.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
The best team walking. It's okay, it's okay, what.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Did okay she doing the off season?

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Don't they want a championship. Got to do nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
They don't need to do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
The conversation, we.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Haven't that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I'm asking what do they need? You tell us? You
thought that would tell us? What did they need to change?

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
So they barely beat Okay, they barely beat Denver? No, no,
but let's make this. Let me make my case. Barely
beat Denver with a one legged Aaron Gordon, right, but
they beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
They added the same amount of stats and the same
shooting from markt Michael Porter Jr. Then camp with Cam
Cam Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Yes or no.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
They added a suitable replacement fifteen and seven if he starts,
Jonas Valentinas to back up Yokich. They added Bruce Brown,
and they added Tim Hardway Junior. So what did okay
see we talked about how good Denver got me?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I got it for you. Okay. They didn't add no nobody.
But they'll get more from Chat. They get more from
j Dubb, they get more from Shay. You don't think
that can cover the the and you forgot about the
top pick, the kid that played the summer league. They
got hurt, hurt the game. You guys don't think you
just gonna get more.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Murry's gonna be healthier. You guys think he's gonna have
a good season, yes or no? Yeah, Ye's gonna being
the playoffs. So listen, I'm not listen. All I'm saying is,
okay See is essentially the same team that you expect
to get better. Denver added a lot of pieces and
fixed a lot of the weaknesses. That was my only point.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
I'm gonna say this one thing that you didn't realize.
Jay Double was hurt the whole playoffs. Yeah he was. Yeah,
he had a whole handful. I think it was like
a fingers were fucking broke. Still played right, So there's
a lot to go into it. I think okay See
was inexperienced. I think Joe found a way to win.
Is gonna get better, Yeah, I think everybody's gonna come

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come back better. And then at the same time, they've
been there. I've said it before and you get on
me about it all the time. Experience matters. Okay See
has been in these situations they played Denver. Do they
have a different team. Yes, they still got fucking lou Dor,
they still got Alex Caruso. They can guard Cam Johnson
and Tim Hardaway, they still got fucking Shaye Shake might

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shoot more threes this year, hit more three If it's
if it's not broken, then why fix it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I'm not saying they need to add anything. The only
thing I said is Denver addressed every pretty much every.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Issue they had last year, and what make the next step?

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
If I don't think Chuck can make the next step,
I just think, because obviously Aaron Wiggins, everybody's gonna make
the next step, there's only one basketball to go around.
I think he'll be better, but I don't think he'll
be drastic because there's only one basketball to go round.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I mean he could make We can say the same
thing about what you said about never one basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Yes, but all the players I mentioned are the role
players that need to be placed into Denver fit matters, right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Those dudes are role players. Those stars are Jada and
sha a layer. That's a role player.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
So if he gets drastically better, he's just gonna play
his role.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
That's my point, And that's fine. He's the third man exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Okay, So what I'm saying, he's not going to be
a star tomorrow because he still has a role player.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
There's only two stars, Like I said it didn't play
well in that Denver series, and I think if that
next step is him being more consistent, him imposing his
will more because they don't get there without yet. I
agree with you he takes that next step and be
more consistent because his defense was was on point. He's
gonna be They gonna be a fucking issue.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
I understand that. Listen, I get it check and do
a lot of different things. I'm just saying I think
Denver addressed a lot of their weaknesses, and the Kole
yoak Is is still the best goddamn player.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
In the world. Good. He still gotta beat Okay, see
still gotta be let him get home defending champs.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
All right, Peter, you want to play the Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
Clip pissed I'm living. I feel like we let that
opportunity slip away, and that to me was the biggest

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just kind of upsetting think about it, which she really
pissed me off, and I was just like, if we
have the same team, we can do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Anthony Slader with Oklahoma and Kevin, you know, lost is
still fresh, but you have kind of have an unknown
future coming over the next month. How do you kind
of expect that to play out and when you'll start
thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I mean, it was just lost like thirty minutes ago.

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
So myself and Kevin had a unique situation because Kevin
was really really good early. I wasn't that great. Kevin
was always getting better and getting better, getting better. My
evolution happened pretty quickly to where we never was equal,
but we pretty damn close of being able to hold

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our own and run an organization and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
To do things that can can change the game.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
This team will never win a championship with Russell Westbrook
as the primary decision maker, the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
News again coming in moments ago.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
So yeah, Ray, I know obviously you spoke about a
little bit yesterday. You were Russ's former teamate, you spent
some time in OKC. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
A man could do whatever he want to do. But
as we all say, you can do what you want
to do, you can say what you want to say,
but it's all turned all but in the looks of
things and in the terms of things, it's how you
do it and how you say it. The way Kevin
Durant did it. It looks crazy you went to a
team that just beat you, and I should have won.

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You had a chance to win, and you go over
there and y'all go win two championships. So you know,
it kind of justified what he wanted to do. But
I feel like he could have did that, and okay,
see if he just stuck it out. But it also
gave Russe an opportunity to really show the world that

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I can not only be the man and be the
franchise guy, but I also can be a leader. I
could be a guy who can pass the ball. Because
if you saw this whole documentary, you had guys like
Steven A. Smith skipped Bayless. They was murdering him, bro,
it was killing him. They was talking crazy about this man.
And he went out that next year and took a

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team that, you know, let's be honest, it's a decent team,
have some players over there, you know, but you know
it wasn't Kevin Lurant and the team they had before,
And he made the playoffs and got MVP and average
a triple double. So I mean it helped him as

(01:23:41):
an individual, But at the same time, like damn, like
you know, KD, why would you leave and go to
a team that just beat us? You know what I'm saying,
so it's all about how he did it. I'm not
mad at what he did, because, shit, you do what
you want to do. You want to go somewhere else
and play, that's what you want to do. You have
that right. But going to that team, I think that's
what everybody really disliked him about, why they still dislike

(01:24:04):
him to this day in Okse. But you know, it
is what it is. What y'all think. I'm with you.
I mean, I think it's just it's tough as a competitor.
I mean, what I've done it, I couldn't do it. Dope.
That's that's KD Like they saying. Kevin Durant is his
own man. He felt like that was the best for him,

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his situation. Kudos to you. We're talking about our opinion,
my opinion. If me and Ray on the team and
we're the caliber Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook and we
build that rapport and we like we right fucking there, dog,
we right there. We just lost three to one. For me,

(01:24:48):
it would be hard for me what they built for
me to do that to Ray. That's point blank period.
How can I do that to somebody that how many
years where they okay, see the together.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Two thousand and eight, Russ was drafted, So twenty eight
to twenty sixteen, eight years, nine years.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
That's a long fucking time, bro. And the way they
took up for each other in that time period, because
Katie heard what they were saying about him and he
was he would speak up for us. It'd be like, Yo,
don't need to chill the fuck out, We're not here
without him. And then just to dip on him to
a team that just beat you after that's a heartbreaker. Dog,
that's a heartbreaker to a team that just beat you

(01:25:27):
on some bullshit. That's tough to do. And you look
at somebody differently after that, you do. You can't blame
Rus for looking at k a different way after he did.
It was smoked for for a few years. I think
I think now they cool and they cordial, you know
what I'm saying. But it's still it's still it still hurts.

(01:25:48):
It definitely stains Kd's legacy Drey made. Look at that
right there though. I agree with that. No conversation, Yeah,
that might be different if they had that conversation CV. Yeah, yeah,
I mean you almost feel betrayed exactly, and then you're
looking at him. Damn just joined the team that won

(01:26:09):
seventy two, seventy three games. The fucking we just lost
to them boys. No conversation, no nothing word. Ain't telling thathing.
We just did an interview together and then after that
I found out as a man, that's a white move.
But I respect the fact that, like what Ray saying,
what THEO said. Gotta respect what the man wants to do,

(01:26:30):
like he thought it was a better business decision or
a better basketball decision for him to join that. But
as a person color loyalty, come holler at me like, yeah, like,
come on, as a that's a whack move, Broeh's a
whack move.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
I agree with you guys on every point. Yo, A
lot of people you hear speaking about it, Like in
any team when they spend a long time, they call
their teammate and they tell their teammate first. So I
agree with every single point you guys said. It's how
you handle it. I would say on on actually just
speaking about the business move, like he made a decision
basketball made more sense. I think everybody agrees there. Would

(01:27:06):
you rather play? Would you rather play a selfish system
where you move the ball and your talents fit or
would you rather play?

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
That's all it came down to, right, I'm not even
mad at the decision. I'm mad at how you went
about it exactly. I'm cool with that. That's all it is.
He wasn't fucking with us. But that's the thing though,
I'm looking at what Burton said. That's like saying everybody
thought that Kobe and Shaq didn't like each other. That
wasn't a case. There are two stars too appas on

(01:27:33):
a team who held each other accountable. So, yeah, they're
gonna get into it. You know, they're gonna, Yeah, they
go scream at each other, they gonna it's gonna be
some tension because they at a level that they're trying
to hold each other at this high level each and
every night. You know, Damn Rush, you gotta pass the
ball in this situation. Damn kd you gotta pass that
motherfucker too. Whatever they was getting into about. But you
can sit there and say that Kobe and Shaq didn't

(01:27:56):
like each other. Ain't that what everybody was trying to say.
Kobe and Shaqa said, Man, I love Kobe, We loved
each other, but we just bumped heads. That question right there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Why does Russell okay.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
That conversation if you only co workers, they weren't just
co workers at this point, we've been together for eight
nine years. We ain't just we ain't just co workers.
Were family, we bros.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
But you don't know that though you know that, you
know that they were.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
I felt like that with all my teammates. If I'm
with you that many years, bro, even if we want
this close, I wanted I was close to Mellow. Mello
was like me and me and Mellow was like was
like that was my closest teammates. But that doesn't change
my relationship with Tyson or anybody else on that team
like this, but he did makes me tells me they

(01:28:50):
weren't cool like that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
But but you hear Kad though like you hear in
the media, he doesn't. I feel like he he is
very If I with you, with you, even if you're
my teammate, I don't walk with you were cool. But
like he, I feel like he can cut it off
real quick, like he can clean cup.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
We can move on. I mean, I just think it's
just it's just respect of two Bone of five Stars, Bro,
two Bone of five Superstars, that it's just respect, like Bro,
I'm about to I'm about to roll out like I'm
finna go to go to state. I think that happens
more now than anything exactly because of that. Because of it,
Because of that, I think people have conversations with each

(01:29:25):
other now, because of this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Let's be real. Brad didn't tell John he was on
the way out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
No, I'm saying, I'm saying the other thing. Ray. I
think a lot of guys don't say anything. Now. We
talked about race.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
John had no John didn't. Brad didn't tell John that
he okayed the trade for John. He found him from Ross.
Ross texted John and said, Yo, why are you holding
up the trade? Brad didn't say nothing to him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
That's why I said for me, because Brad was trying
to get that money. That's why that's why I said
for me, and they, like I said, the relationship is
the relationship. If I'm doing eight years a long time,
though you can be frustrated, how let's think about this.
Eight years will got to be rule, right, Yeah, it's

(01:30:11):
decency and nigga, when you're a rookie, you don't sign
an eight year deal, you'll fucking re signed for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
But you know, when you sign your first rookie extension,
Like that's kind of a given. Am I wrong? When
you guys sign your like not everywhere, but like, if
you're a star of that caliber, you typically resign your extension.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Eight years a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
You gotta tell me one star that hasn't signed the
rookie extension, but.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
You can ask to go. We're not even talking about
that though. It's just I don't know. I don't know.
I guess I'm built different. I think things differently. Yeah,
I'm built different.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
It's different.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
I think, Yeah, I got differently.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
But everybody here agrees that you owe him a conversation.
That's not what it is. It was just saying leaving
is like eight years, eight years, but do it best
for you that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
I'm not mad about leaving about your people? Sure we're
all in agreeing on this people, because he explained that's
a big if. If we don't know that he said
it was good basketball over there. But if y'all it's
just a respect level though of being that caliber players,
is that respect, then I'm going to holler at you.

(01:31:12):
I ain't. We ain't telling him to k I didn't
say Serge Obaka I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
But you should. D six years D. He was in
the trenches search for like six years.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
He was I'm calling all the niggas I'm calling if
I'm looking for six five six years. KD made it
seem like they were cool, though, because KD did have
his back on multiple multiple occasion. So it's the image
you portrayed, right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
So at the end of the but you don't have
your teammates back regardless if.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
You really, if you if you fun with somebody, you
gotta give him that respect.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
I think, regardless if I don't funk with you and
you're my teammate, you're the second best player. I have
to have your back no matter what because you're in
the trenches.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
With me, exactly. I think if you was to ask
k D if you would change anything about that, I
think he would. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
I mean, listen, he was back reasons and he wanted
a new change. I mean, I'm gonna tell you this,
I don't want to be I wouldn't want to be
in Oklahoma City, no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Russell would have been upset for the summer. Maybe the
first half a day he would have respected it, but
then he'd be like the motherfucker told me. He told me.
Why do I do I agree with it? No, but
he fucking told me regardless if it's a tough conversation,
and like you know, people are gonna be like, man,

(01:32:27):
he don'ta owe that nigga nothing, all right, Bro, Like
I said, that's how you made Now he owes him
the conversation. I think I think you owed Nigga, but
he owes him the conversation. That's the conversation. Find out
from me before you find out from everybody else in
the world. Was like you said on the documentary, he
sat there like, hold on, bro, for Russe, the for

(01:32:49):
Russ to react like that they were closer than what
the fuck Bergen talking about, for him to be like,
ain't no way he went there, ain't no way. No,
he didn't he ain't nah on all the teams, he
didn't go to fucking go to state. That's what he
said though. That's exactly what he said in the document
can't beat him. You joined them. What they say, it's

(01:33:13):
a sucker move. Keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
I mean, I mean, you guys always say you guys
are more than athletes. If tomorrow Google, someone's working for
Samsung and Google gave you a better package, better work
life balance.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
No, No, you don't say if you don't say it's
a soccer move, because you say you're more than that.
The way you do, the way you it's a soccer move, going,
it's a socker move. No, But at the end of
the day, I would never if you were for Google
and Apples, a better company. They offered you a better,
better package, better work life balance, but better city. I'm
gonna call you socker for leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
I'm going to let you know we're not talking about
he's talking about because how he did it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
No, you said he's a socker move because he went
it's just well I would have not done there. Okay,
but that's what I'm saying. But it's meant to humanize people.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
It's okay if he feel like it's a soccer move
to go to a team like that they just beat
you and just beat you, but also wanting the team
to just whooped your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
No, but I don't think it's a soucer move. He
made a decision was best for him.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
So if a nigga came up and you just smacked
the ship out of you, what is I just wanted
to say that, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
I was waiting for the parts. Okay, all right, But
at the.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
End of the day, like you guys always say that
you guys are more than athletes, which I agree with,
he made a decision was best for himself.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Why you guys, which is entitled to He's entitled to that.
A lot of sucker move, he's entitled to that. But
to me, it's like you're.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Staying okay, see over, goes over San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Staying on his legacy. He did it, did it? You
know you he did.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Agree with how he did it was not was, but
you would stay okay, see over San Francisco. Tell me
that right now? You play worse basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Listen, Bro, it's about the game. Bro. You just was
beating these niggas three one and then the next year
whole ship. I'm gonna go join the who watched those games?
Who watched those games? No competitive bone in your body,
that's no Like I just said, I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
I just said I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
A sucker move.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
You agree with him personally, but it doesn't mean you
ber move because he wants he Why wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
You do it? At home? You don't. You don't. You
don't get it, because no, he gets it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
He agrees with I agree with y'all the day.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
But why wouldn't you do it?

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Because playing with Russ was looks is way toffer than
playing with Klay Stephen dre when they're also selfless. Let's
keep it a stack. I don't want to sit down.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
There choke all that that we watched that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Why the fuck is Russell westboroth kicking the last shot?
Please explain to me over.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Kevin Durant because he feels like he can all the time.
It happened quite often. Why they give damn about that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
So why is Russell Westbrook taking the LAS show with
Kevin Durant? He's explained to.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Me because he like he can make it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
That's what he's saying. He's just saying, why would you
go to Golden But calling him a sucker for that
is crazy. Nigga, you are great. I don't think you're
hearing yourself. I wouldn't do it, but it doesn't mean
I agree that he shouldn't have went to Golden State.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
I personally would have done it. I wouldn't have done it, Okay,
but I don't think it's a socker move. I think
you made a decision.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Oh you're mad about the sucker park. You're just saying that.
You know that his Golden State. I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
I don't. I don't not a bad doing that you made.
You made a good decision for yourself. Why are you
sucking when you make a decision for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
The way he did it? Three one, bro, if you
lost in the first one, if you lost in the
first round to another team and then you joined Golden State, is.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Ray Allen the sucker?

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
It's Ray Allen the sucker. Say it that was a
corny more too. I will say that yes or no,
that was a corny.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
More all right, he's a sucker move. As long as
you're consistent. As long as you're consistent, Kge, that's the
sucker move. As long as you're consistent, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
I mean consistently, you're consistent. Ray Allen did the same ship.
But I mean it ain't about it being being consistent.
If I don't want to call rayel and the sucker,
I don't got you. If I want to call k
a sucker, he's a sucker. That's cool. That's what it is.
I'm just saying I didn't call neither one of them
a sucker. I'm just saying, like I funk with both

(01:37:34):
of them, and I'm not saying that suckers. It's not
a person. Everything. Everything is about somebody's opinion. That's opinion,
that's a move. It's the same thing you just get
riled up about the sucker said you you rather play with?
You went on some other ship. Want to this rush rush?

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Yeah? You really just my brother know who that's and
that's like my bro.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
You literally you literally said Russ makes some bad decisions sometimes.
I still and that's what I say.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
You got to live with the good in the bad
bad to live with.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
If I'm Kevin Durant, so I'm taking a lot of shot.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
I understand what you said. But Russ has the type
of confidence that he feels like he can too. So
I'm not saying he should take it every time. No,
But I'm not gonna sit here say he's supposed to
give it to Katie every time. No, I'm not going
to just got mad with agreeing with us. That's what
you were so mad you. We're gonna show you the
clip you agree with you was over here like this.

(01:38:37):
He agreed with us. You agree with everything we were
saying because you said you're right. I want to win.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
They call him the sucker is crazy, Okay, corny. Whatever
you guys want to say is your words. I just think.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
That opinion doesn't matter. He must have got called a
sucker before in his life, and trigger trigger you bullied back,
and it's dive deep into this, deep into you bullied
back when going on.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
I wasn't I promise you I wasn't. Let me tell
you that, Charlotte. I'm Asian, right. People used to make
fun of my my noodles. Oh yeah, all right, you
don't like the way my noodles smell. I'mna come sit
right beside you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
You want to fight out?

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
That's how.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
I don't like using this we talk about noodles. I'm
just letting 'all know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
I pull up next to you with my noodles and say,
what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
You want to make fun of my noodles and how
they smell? Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Oh, you're invited to the barbecue for sure. He listen
taking fun of your doodles. Made fun of your noodles, Bro,
I'm what you mean. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Everybody's saying slanted eyes and ship, bro, it's fighting all
the time. Making doodles.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
That's crazy, made funny doodles. Everything your noodles? Did you
eat chicken with your noodles? How chicken? With my name
the show? I'm just letting y'all know, Bro, you have
a soda on the side? Was allow soda? Bro? I
was allowed? Solda? You a g.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Everybody used to make.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
Okay bottle cups?

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
Mother, my ship stink my noodle stick closer?

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Brotink though?

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
Is all your food smelling like roses?

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
My?

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
What all the food, all the food that Dominican for
folke smell roses?

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Yep, you're fucking noodle stink out of here? Next song,
sign you funny. It's hilarious. If y'all don't watch this show,

(01:41:05):
y'all crazy about this show is hilarious home So we
didn't we did this larape, we did this everything ahead, Hey,
we don't. Nigga, he's still mad about the noodles. Yeah,
that hit the nerve charing. Somebody called him a sucker
about them noodles. Tell you were talking about Oh my god, Nigga,

(01:41:29):
I'm sweating yo made funny noodles?

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
You gotta let us know who the fun that is. Yeah, noodles, next, noodles.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
To eat us an example, bro, any Asian food. All right,
let's move on, guys. Let's move on, ship, move on, noodle.
We're talking sip your mother, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
That's not right. THEO is the one that you know
what I mean. I'm on the ship now. Yeah, I
hate saying that. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Charlie did say that he don't like he don't like
the show. Last thing for today. We apologized got off topic.
Alan Iverson's new documentary is coming out October twenty third
on Amazon Prime. You'll excited for that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
By Hey, yah boy got the niggas. Yeah, y'all forgot
about that part. Huh yeah, I used to have What
was the debate? Who were earlier?

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
But we don't we'll get into it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
We don't get into it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
We don't get into it. So obviously they're paying homage
to AI. His documentary will be produced by Steph Curry.
But let's just get into it. Who had a greater
impact on basketball, Steph Curry or Alan Iverson?

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
Alan? The answer Iverson? Yeah, the fact that you took
that d. But listen, this this is what I'm gonna say.
You gotta talk about different generations. Yes, y'all younger the
history years. Young boys need to know that you they

(01:43:16):
still should know about we lived.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
I loved the I love the hype. I love through that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
Yeah, but you fingers still did you wear? Still You're
still a number one Golden State fan. So we can't
talk to you. We gotta go more over here to
the because you're a number one going at that point,
I can be objective about it. I'm just saying you,
he don't know the history. No, wait, I agree. I

(01:43:41):
agree with the elder statements to let I agree. I
agree with y'all. But I'm saying Steph is right there. No,
I'm saying I think now, I think Steph is a
pioneer because he changed the game as far as and
all of that. You know, he did that. Like I'm
totally with that. But ai the culture, the culture for

(01:44:02):
us as young black menas basketball, like just the hood everything.
I was that guy. I was the guy. Listen. I
think they're right there, neck and neck. I think Steph
is more game and I think a more culture. So
can we be objective? Had the game to go with
the coaches everything, So so can we be object.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
I think the most impactful person of that era is
probably Kobe. First thing, So I don't even think it
should be Allan should be Kobe because we don't say
Alan Kobe.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
We're talking about Kobe. No no, no, no no no no.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
I'm talking about from that from that draft class. That
era is Kobe is the most impactful player from that time.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
But we're talking about these two.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
I'm gonna get to my point.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Person.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
People don't say Alan Iverson now, people say Steph. Well,
when a lot of kids shoot, they say Curry or Steph.
That's what they say.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Yeah, that's what that But as a kid, as a
young I would saying, ay, I I wanted to. I
went outside and was like trying to do that cross
over like this guy. Okay cool. So that's why the argument,
that's why we're here arguing because these two y A,
I had the flat but I played, but the range,

(01:45:20):
the shooting at a hot clip. Steph Curry has changed
the games.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
Playing basketball because.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
I wore arms. So yes, I would baggy clothes, baggy
change corn rolls, like, didn't dress, didn't poor those suits.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Because so this is what I would say to you
guys are right. Culture wise is not even a question mark.
It's not a question. But I think basketball is not
a question either. Steph Curry is is way, but.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Yeah, but you have to make a decision, and this
guy impacted both both both ways, so I don't know
if he impacted on the game too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
I mean Steph Curry has a people in my heart
thinking they can hoop Steph Curry as people thinking they're just.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Remember Alan Iverson is probably shorter than Steph Curry.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
You know what I'm saying, people, Steph Curry is a
lot more relatable because you don't have to be as
fast and jump as high as Steph as Alan Iverson, right,
he has a lot of people just thinking they believe
they can hoop Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
We have a lot of people just shooting gymp shots.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Small Brop is like sixty three, so he's definitely shorter.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
So you don't think another five eleven cat out there
is saying like I could be in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
To so they ain't saying that, they say I could
be like Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Because they say they're growing up now were talking. I'm
saying as far as like so culturally can I finish. Yeah,
go ahead, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
So what I'm saying is that I think they both
have the same impact. I'm trying to finish my point
and then you can go. Then you go, Jesus. So
what I'm saying is, though I think culturally Steph Curry
has changed the game today, right, But what's the number
one rule you're taught as a kid when you played basketball?
Pro check the paint that has changed because of Steph Curry?

(01:47:02):
Why do we shoot threes now? Kids are not Kids
are literally not Dunky anymore. They're just shooting threes and
warm ups because of Steph Curry. So what I'm trying
to say to you guys is I think it's even
That's my point.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Let me tell you this, what you think what you
think AI would have been this day? Oh my god,
with just social media Steh Curry around, or if kid
Steth Curry, Steph could still be who he is.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
I don't think he's just today crazy. I don't think he's.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Craziest with social media the way social media is now
and the way to Hank's point, it's tough to say
that because AI had to start it right for us
to be where we are today. He had to start
somebody else. You know what I'm saying, It's hard to
say he would be the same because right now, if

(01:47:50):
you look at AI's game, now, what's the difference between
AI game now and John Moran. That's what I was
about to make a example. Think about John. John was
on on pace to be the new face of the NBA. Yeah,
m if he can, if he could have held it together,
John would have been just like the AI. He would
have been for because he just had that type of

(01:48:12):
swag yah for the culture, just being honest, So he
was going to be the face playing ball to all
the excitement he was bringing to the game, but also
off the court, the culture can It's just something because
Steph's long has had more of a longevity of no,
no question the greatness so far. So it's like, okay,

(01:48:34):
does he have the upper hand. But he did so
much for everybody. AI did so much for That's what
I'm saying. That's that's what I'm saying. They're not trying
to sing you out at all, but like he did
so much for us to be like the feel comfortable.
What do you mean like black people people who play basketball,
we get to wear assessors. We get to wear, we
get to be comfortable doing because A I didn't give

(01:48:56):
a fuck. He didn't, so he made us not really
give a fuck. He's like, all right, back cool, it's
cool to wear armsleeve. He made it. He made it
okay to be yourself. Yes, pretty much, no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
I can't speak to that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
He opened it up for everybody like you. Like, I'll
give you another example, like Snoop Dogg. Think about the
thing Snoop Dogg get to do that everybody can't do.
Everybody can't go on TV and smart weed Snoop. That's
what I'm saying. But he's another person that set that
tone of I'm gonna be me no matter what. You're
gonna have to accept it. If you want me, if

(01:49:28):
you want Snoop dog to be on your commercial, to
be on part of your brand, you gotta accept that.
I'm gonna be me. AI did that, but he's gonna
be him no matter what their class and probably to
like what two thousand seven and eight are gonna say AI,
from then on, I'm probably gonna say, Steph, I'm not

(01:49:49):
mad at it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
I just I think to be changed the whole game though,
Steph changed the whole way we play the game like that.
That's an Obviously AI changed the culture, but he didn't
change where you played the game. You want to play
like him, You guys can't discount that Steph changed the
way the game is played. There's a reason why seven
footers on a premium anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
No disrespect to Eric dam Pierce, but he got a
fifteen million dollar contract just to guard.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
Shrack listen exactly. He he he changed the game. But
let's be honest. Let's be honest. I'm gonna be honest
with you. The game was going to evolve to this anyway.
It just it. He just made it faster. Let's be real.
These guys overseas and you're in Europe was already doing this.
They was already shooting threes and stuff. Then now we're
doing it over here in America. And now that that

(01:50:33):
has went now the game, I don't think people are
shooting like that to steps do you guys. You know
what I'm saying is he he made it happen faster.
Like now they're like teams are changing. Teams was trying
to change to be golden state of the movement. Yeah,
teams will changing to be Goda stand up that what that? Okay?
See let me ask you this though.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Can you not say the same argument with Alan Iverson
that if if it was somebody would have probably pioneered
like Alan Iverson did.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Nobody did it though.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
But the same thing with the Steph. Nobody did it
till Steph did it. He's the one that caused the revolution.
That that's my only point.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Stiff made it. Steph. Listen, bro, Steph, you can't sit
here and say that other guys wasn't shooting threes. Reality,
they were shooting off the shooting. They weren't shooting this deep.
He made it. He made it look he made it
look fun. Put like that. He changed the game because
he made a little fun. Steph was hitting with the bank,
shooting at mug and running down the court when you're
looking at it, and he was shooting as soon as

(01:51:26):
he stepped crossed half court. That was never seen before.
That was that was never before. Bad shots think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
Yeah, just a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
That's bad shot. Everybody him, yeah, everybody else but fucking
up the game. But that's still it is. He's also
fucking up. But we can't listen up the game is
like people not realizing you ain't sucking Steph Curry exactly.
But that's not Steph fault. No, no, no, no, he changed,
like I said, he just because they're saying that he

(01:51:57):
changed it. Think about what you just said. You just said,
Steph curR fucking up the game. That means you got
a lot of power. You're sucking up the whole game
of basketball if you're doing that, and then you think
you got a bunch of people trying to do it
he got. I think it's even.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
I think it's even. That's my point.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
I think it's I think it's impact. They both have
the same. I think it's on the game at the
end of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
Like he changed the way we look at basketball like that,
I'm not discounting that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Well. I can't say he changed the game the way
I look at basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
The fundamental thing I was changed it for the protect
the paint.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
He changed it for everybody in the NBA. He changed
the NBA. He changed it for these kids. I mean
the AU space. All these kids want to shoot threes.
Nobody wants to play age no more, nobody wants to
do certain stuff. Everybody want to shoot threes. I swear
I'm an AU tournaments all the time. You're right, he
got here trade young. They was talking calling him the
news that the new Steph Curry. Jimmy for that that

(01:52:53):
motherfucker before. That's where it gets real tricky because Jimmy
was the on that ship. Maybe first they used to
call that the Jimmy range. But Jimmy didn't do nothing
in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
But here's the thing, though, Right, Jimmy, you did that
before Steph. We all know that, but it's no different.
I'm sure someone was wearing don't be themselves, but they
just didn't take it to the next level like Ai.
I'm sure someone was doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
That's why I said that a A I did it exactly.
Def had to do it. Shout out to Mark Jackson.
Could you put that better? But let's be honest, though,
you like, like you just said, Jimmer for he was
doing he did that before Steph did. Right, it ain't
for everybody. Ain't for everybody. We're just saying somebody else
did it, they did it before Ai, But it ain't
for everybody AI. Well, AI did on the court. A

(01:53:39):
lot of people can't say they did a lot of
people ain't didn't do it. Just be honest. For his size,
what he did, he was a bona fide score. He
wasn't a point guard. He was a bona fide scorer
at six feet and he was. He changed the culture
with how he was. He gonna be himself, his swag, everything,
He got the best most infamous quot ever practice. Yeah,

(01:54:05):
you know what I'm saying, but I agree with you
with Steph though. Listen, I'm not saying you're not right.
That's not what I'm saying. But you you asked me
a question and I just gave you an answer. You
say who, I think who Who's Who's Who's more impactful?
I say they, That's all I said. I didn't say
Steph wasn't because he is.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
I would say I wasn't old enough to understand as impact.
But hearing you guys speak about it, I can see
why you guys say as over stuff. I understand where
you guys are coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
Because it was the game and then the culture. He
was both factors. AI impacted both things.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
Yeah, So did AI change the way the game's played
or he just had kids want to play with him?
Those are two different things.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
He had kids wanting to to have corn rows, he
had kids wanted to wear headbands and arms, sleeves. He
did all of this when I was coming up. And
then and then Steph. Steph did it because all the
kids didn't want to wear nikes no more in Jordan's
they wanted to wear under arms. Shoot, Steed, I saw that,
I saw corn rolls, and I couldn't have him. All right,

(01:55:01):
they go to the.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Appreciate But back to the argument though, right, Like, you're
saying that he wanted kids to play with him, But
how did A I actually change the game, like the
actual game itself.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
Cross cross over what Michael Jordans he did. You'll never
forget that, But.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
Not trying to cross people before that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
I'm not old enough. That was not crossover everybody that
I did a whole movement and one yeah, and one
was based on fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
I might switch the A. I man, yeah, because okay,
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
I still think it's even I didn't know that I
was old.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Enough for And one I remember Professor and all them.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
That's a I with the do rag boom collector. AI.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
Well, who's the big dude Cadillac Cadillac alright, so I
remember all that. But if A I was on that Pioneer,
the and one moving, I gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
Say, but A, I wasbo you kids, but AI influenced
and one the players for sure about it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
I saw, So that was all I was gonna say,
Like what about I thought Tim Hardaway and.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Uh the Killer Crossover. But like I said, both, Hey,
I had both. He had the swag, he had everything
to go with it. He did, but that that ship matters, Bro,
No one does you do that Left the Right crossover.

(01:56:41):
That's one person. You go to the point, go to
the park. Persons out there like I got that AI
crossover there trying to do that Left the rights AI
right now and now talking about you got kids now
saying I'm shooting at three like Steph Kurt. So you
know they both you know what I'm saying, Like, it's
just they did. They both did it, bro, But for me,

(01:57:01):
for me, it was a For me, everyone wants to
look like Steph Curry no outside of the game, but people.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Want to look like Inspire all the light Skin brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
Made Away. I don't want the linelight like that. He
ain't as out there last Uh He's no, he's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
He's just in a very good image.

Speaker 2 (01:57:23):
Yea, but that nigga like playing golf. He's playing golf,
he's doing like corporate definitely more corporate, more hood. Yeah
he did. But if you look at the numbers, who
plays more? Who plays basketball? More corporate, dude or more hood?

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
I think I would say today is I don't think
it's the same today, back in back in your day.
I think today's more. It's just it's just a sport.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Now it's going a little more corporate for sure, more corporate.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
I mean, I think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
Because there's so many opportunities to make extra bread you like.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
Yeah, I don't think the games. I think the game
is so game involved that that's that's how has to
do with everybody. So yeah, but I think the game.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
Is in a good position involving in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
All right, man, he look bro, anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
He was hungry, so you know he trying to starving
and that's wrong. About to go. We appreciate you want
some noodles. We're gonna put an a p b out
for whoever the fun was making fun of Hong and
them damn noodles.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
Yeah, bro, but I'm glad you said making fun, not bullying,
because the bully bully because we we would duke it out.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
That's not bullying, like you got hands like that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
Like like Ray said before on the air, I'll take
a fight. I might lose it, but I'll take a fight.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
A little concerned. I'm a little concerned. Now that's crazy.
I might be fucking you might have some ship. Bruce
Lee was gonna say that. I say that we got
you got some experience, black belt, Bro. I don't want smoking.

(01:59:01):
We just I just felt like, well, if you kick,
I want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:59:07):
If I need to.

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
Oh yeah, noodles.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
Hey man, I appreciate y'all. Bro, I appreciate y'all. All, y'all,
we'll see we'll see you tomorrow. Tomorrow's the last show of.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
The week, last show of the week, Monday through Thursday.
Y'all keep tuning in. We're getting bigger and better. We
appreciate all. Love out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
And before we signed out, hey, Ray Allen is not
a sucker. Katie is not a sucker. No, nobody's a sucker.
We're out peace.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
Peace, a right, whatever,

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