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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Ready party people. We were back with another live stream
of to the Baja.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, this is a rough, rough start.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We're good. We're good. You'll can hear it? Ye? Yeah, yeah,
I know we got we got my brother what do
you say?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I don't know, but anyways, we got my brother t
P and the Rico okay, and we got c V
in the building.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes we got.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, you dropped another twenty piece.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
But did he get to Doe?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Why y'all roast him that quickly?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
You get to let me introduce you here?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Yeah, everybody knows me as a as annoying producer. We're good, bro,
we don't need to introduce me.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What's up Dre? Dre's in the chat already.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Guy, Yo, Hey THEO. I'm gonna need you to go
get forty games? No, we gotta we got a big
We got a big game tonight. That say is gonna
be rockets, So I gotta put on show. You gotta
put the twenty is not enough enough? Second is not enough? Said? Job?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Ready for this? Where? Okay? Ce slash n y c
ray at, I.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
See check getting that while he's not here, colluding while
he's not here on all honestly, do you guys think
he's on both payrolls? Yes, somehow, some way, Yeah, he
is on the cover. He's colluding for sure. What do
you think on both pails? One thousand percent?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like, I mean, he don't really hide it either, That's
what I'm saying, Like, you don't really.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Could you imagine how fucked he would have been if
they both made the finals? I know.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
She would have to be this silence, that was what
it was saying.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Bro, So you're saying that the next that. What I'm
hearing is the Nixon is not gonna make it. That's
what I'm hearing.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We're gonna get to We're gonna get to the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
We can get to the I mean, we can get
it to the well to ask to ask what we
with this last?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
How is it? Ao?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's already.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm just so used to it.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Charlie, Charlie repping for New York today, But he's gonna
talk some ship to No.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I always New York. You always got a New York
had on.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I expect it, always, bro, New York, he always got
a New York cat on, just not the nick.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, look, let's let's let's give flowers though to
uh to the payroll payroll payers of Ray.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Hey, but shout out to shout to Ray Bro. We
miss Ray on today's We'll get him back next be
in the flash and then hang the hold up, Charlie, Bro,
they ain't paying us.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I know you love it, but they ain't paying us.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
This is good.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I know I'm trying to turn out the goat field.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm trying to turn out.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Hey, Charlie. Charlie.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Charlie turned up on Memorial Day. That was a little
what do you want to call his hangover?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Game is flu game show?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
But no, first, I mean first, I just want to
say shout out to Ray. We're happy to have him back.
We might have Tyler back as well. Yeah, when we
might have back, we might have a full house. I'll
be back behind the mic and the producer until when
I set up. You know, we might have tie back,
so we'll see what happens. I go ahead, can take it,
take it away, Okay, shout out.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay, see for advanced to their first finals since twenty twelve.
You know what I'm saying, Shaye got what's your Conference
finals MVP album?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Why we ain't playing the highlights though? Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Because it was bailt to ask, you do I want
to see that? Nobody wants they see that. Look, look,
we haven't got no highlight was I stopped watching after
the first quarter. They shot three of twenty the first
quarter and Neyly had nine points.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Bro. Like, I was like, Bro, these niggas ready to
go get ready to go home? Bro.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So like the first the first five minutes was the game. Uh,
Jada McDaniel's had three great looks open corner threes and
they all just didn't go down. And if you go
back and look at the first quarter when Jada McDaniel's
missed that last three in the corner, everyone's head just
went down and it just went completely downhill from there.
(04:05):
I mean they were they were just fucking deflated, Bro,
they were deflated.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I mean it was nat you know, yah, we roasted
what's his name, Max Struce, but like it felt like
they didn't like there's no point in coming back for
game five.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, they knew it.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
So it's like that was the whole thing behind Max
Drews's message. And you know, obviously who said in twenty sixteen,
was it Brown or was it pheel Handy or was
it Kui? When the cows are down three to one.
Someone said it on that I think it was. But
that's all I'm saying is like that Minnesota team looks
so defeated.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
They body language was terrib I do think it was bron.
They knew from the jump the first five minutes of
the game.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
They knew it was.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
They didn't have it.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
They knew they shit, they didn't have it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And it was just weird because I didn't expect that that.
I didn't expect them to win either, low key, but
I didn't expect them to go out like that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But that tells you how good Denver was. True that
the games took him to seven and beat him in OKC,
which is very impressive.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I show both this right, and I think it's a
great conversation. Is all three of you guys?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Is it was?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
It just like Minnesota just wasn't ready for the moment.
More than their actual basketball play.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I don't know, they went They went balls to the
wall in that game four they lost. That That was
we talked about this before. When you lose a game
that you play your very best. That was the very
best Minnesota could play, barring uh and not having all
the points and scoring all the points or whatever. He
(05:42):
still played good basket. In my opinion, he played really
well Game four. He didn't force anything. His other guys
were making shots boom and boom. They knew there was
not a very high chance to them playing that well
again that very next game. So once that didn't happen
(06:04):
the first five minutes, oh, they were like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
We are cooked? Like they were cooked.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You said that the body language is awful. Dal Let
me ask you this question, though, uh is Minnesota? Was
Minnesota that bad?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay? See?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Really that good? Minnesota is that bad? There was just
no fight I think it was no okay, now let
me okay, see it's gonna win a championship. They're gonna
win the championship. But I think Minnesota was that bad
last night as far as like there was no fight back,
(06:45):
there was no. I mean, it was just turnover, turnover
and misshot, misshot and listen, when you don't got no
game pressure, you're gonna look good. Yeah. How much of
a serial game.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Pressure do you all pull on that as a leader
of the team or jew.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well, the question is is you know you got to
have a batman and Robin is.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Jew, Yeah for sure. Yeah, up until this, I don't
know Fam. Up until the series, I don't know you
said Fam. That's a New York turn too, Yes York. Okay,
that's Toronto link up? All right, you know that's all.
I don't say that.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I'm just saying that's not how we all sound.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I don't know if so let's have that conversation after,
let's have is that not on your best players? Because like,
you know, would you see Bronze team going like this
really in his prime?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Would you see.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Steps team like I feel like like that's on Jew,
whoever you want to call it, is the leader of
the team. Like they just kind of just bowed out
like suckers. I hate to say it that way.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
The moment, I'm gonna be honest. I think it's just
more of like the psychological factor of that is very real.
But the same time, you don't want to go out
like that. But I would say this, if they had
a better first quarter, that game is completely different. They
didn't make shots. They did not make shots whatsoever. I mean,
(08:14):
if you make a couple more shots, like, let's be
on how many points? Okay, she scored in the first quarter.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Wasn't like forty thirty something thirty plus.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I don't know if it's I don't know if it
was anything crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It was just hot twenty. I think they were twenty.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I remember because I told you I left half halfway
through the first quarter. Last time I stopped watching.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
They scored.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
They scored twenty six points. Yeah, they scored twenty six
points the first half. I turned it off early in
the first quarter. The first quarter was twenty six to nine.
That's not like twenty six points is not a lot
of points. Ye say, it is not a test. But
they they made no shots.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But look they made zero to have time. They were
down by thirty three. They had more turnovers than field goals.
Made that fourteen turnovers and twelve field goals. We're not
gonna win that game.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
You're not gonna be.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Remotely close to winning the game. But back to the thing,
is is that on and you like.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You, that's on the whole squad, that's on no one,
no one.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
He's got to put a battery in your back, bro,
Like when your best player quits, who really gonna play hard?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, I'm honest, and was going I mean he was
fucking trying, but I think everybody else didn't really give
him ship. Think about it, like you're go ahead, no dude,
you got it, you got it? No, no, oh, if
you're you're three and one, right, I mean, you really
got to prepare yourself for that moment, Like you just
(09:44):
can't get ready for that moment. You gotta play, you
gotta win, you.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Gotta know, like you know what time it is, your
backs against the wall, Your back is against the wall.
It's time to show up.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
But you're going one, two, three.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Getting thirty piece at halftime of an elimination game is like,
it's crazy, No one should have He's right to motivate you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It was like, you know, do you want to go
home or not?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
If you need motivation at this.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Point, maybe Anthony, it was just like the fish bro cool,
I'm cool.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Listen. Sometimes it's just a better team, bro, I said, do.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Y'all generally think they were a better team? Like talent talent?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Okay, see, okay, okay, okay, See it's the best team
in the league. They proved it all year and they
proved it right now. I think this is a good
segue for me to publicly apologize to Okay see, Okay, see,
I ain't gonna lie. I wasn't a believer. I wasn't convinced.
But this playoff series is playoff run. I'm convinced, Bro,
(10:46):
you gotta give Shay the real deal.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Just as a team, collectively, they got it all. I mean,
they got Shay as the m v P, they got
the defenders, they got They just a well complimented team.
Man chemistry is on point two. They seem like they
get a long on and off the court. That's a
perfect team. If I was still around playing, I would
(11:12):
want to be on that team.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Do you guys agree with what I said before the
stream started? I don't need the chat coming from my
head this morning.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Go ahead and say what you said.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'll say it.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
So chat dra Kai, Kevin Althom and the car Burn
all our regulars. I said that this team is very
reminiscent of the twenty fifteen Warriors in terms of, like
they're young. They lost in the earlier rounds, but they
really get along. They got a superstar, play good basketball.
A lot of people doubt of them just because they're young.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
So that was kind of you're one, You're one, thousand percent. Right, Hey, yeah,
the league, the league got the validation, my boy, league,
the league.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Is in fucking sham.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
For a long time, for a long if. Yes, if
these guys, I'm telling you like this, if these guys
think like Jaln Brunston is thinking league's in trouble, but.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I would say this to you guys, right, the league
was only really in trouble because they got KD. Like,
I think there are teams that still can compete with them.
I don't think it's just like they're gonna be super dominant,
but they think they had that confidence to No, for sure,
I think they'll be the best they'll be. I mean,
if the Celtics stay together, I think the Celtics are
won't a formal anyway, we don't know yet, but I'm saying,
if we if with the Celtics bring back this roster,
(12:23):
there's still a formal match.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Do you guys agree with that? Yeah? Yeah, something. The
Celtics are going to be good.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
They're well coached, they've been there, they have confidence, they
have been battle tested.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But ship definitely if they get this one. But the
Celtics are battle tested too, That's.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
What I'm saying it's gonna be a good it's gonna
be a good matchup. So I'm just saying it's not
gonna be as dominant.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's just the Warriors got Kdi.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
But I'm just saying no way, because everybody said Lebron
and Kyrie figured out the Warriors in twenty sixteen finals.
So if they never got Kdi, we probably don't run
off another two chips. So like that's all I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Saying, You're still gonna have to improve, yeah, if cause
teams are going to improve to come get at you,
I know, so, so we'll see.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But as we talked about, Okay, so you don't have
the money either in a couple of years. In a
couple of years. You got a couple of years though,
but they got it. I mean, let's actually look at
the numbers. Who gonna make them?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And I'm not saying this, I'm not saying it's biased,
but the MAVs would have to make some moves to
try to get to get at them too, and MAVs
typically is only going to get better.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
So Caseon is a free agent actually no, sorry, Caseon
has a team option. He's getting is good, so he's
coming back. Chat is on a team option next year,
so they got at least till next year. They got
at least next year where they contain most of the roster,
so they'll they'll all be primed for a repeat.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I mean, that's a the Pacers already.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's just tough right now because at the end of
the day, the way the new CBA is, it's hard
to keep talent like this on the same team because
everyone deserves to get paid, you know what I'm saying.
So like check j doub, they gotta get paid. So
(14:05):
where's that money going? Everybody else can't be on the team.
The next person Caruso is making thirty million dollars. You're
not gonna let lou Dort go. You're gonna let lou
Dort go dpoy level player if this if when look
what's the what's lou Dort's contract?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Huh he got paid recently, Lorteah, let me double chuck.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
He's slid seventeen a year.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
He's gonna break them. He's gonna break the bank.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
But but he don't have that option until twenty seven.
So if they have a team option on him in
twenty seven, so he got another two years while he's
locked up by the team.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
They got him on a slave deal.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
That's a crazy seventeen slave deal. Well, that's a that's
a market but slaves crazy the.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
NBA for his production, his production seventeen million, I said,
should give you could think lou Doort should give me
be paid less than Alex Caruso fifteen million dollars less.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Crusoe is not making thirty five, bro, what you do?
What you're talking about? CRUs was making like twenty something.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
No a year, He's making thirty.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
He's making He's not like thirty thirty making like twenty two.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'm coming back out of retirement. He's making thirbody's signing you, Charlie,
give me.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Six weeks, give me six weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Eighteen Mili making eighteen twenty twenty two on his contract.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Oh yeah, listen, he's making less.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
You know, as I said in the group cho I
was sick for Aaron E. Smith that he just resigned
last year. Boy, he would have got a bad sick
could go. He would have got twenty five to thirty.
You got the way he's playing. Yeah, But now that
they're secure for the next two years, guys, so they
can really make a run, continue making these runs.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's the league in trouble, Man League trouble.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
But let's just also be honest though, right, The hardest
thing to do is repeat that's what they say.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I mean because Boston, even we thought Boston he was
gonna do it easily.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, but the fact that okay, see is not losing anyone.
They're probably gonna get better. They're gonna add fucking.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's what they said in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And they got picks too. Can't forget that they're not
a shipload of picks.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And then at the end of the day, Charlie, you,
you and the know this best and you guys can
testify this. Eighty two games is a long season, right
from someone, No one can get injured. Eighty two games
plus another twenty five You want to do that two
years in a row?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
No talk that as well.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I mean, it all depends on health too, right, they
gotta stay injury free. But I mean they're gonna be
the favorites, there's no but about it.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
So let's let's talk about this quickly, right, y'all were
big on getting your honest are you doing that?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
If you win. No, why not you weren't big. But
Ray and theore say.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know they bugging you're bugging.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
You?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Fuck it, you can't. You can't mess with this team. Man.
Like I think the camaraderie they have, the togetherness they have,
that's something I believe that you just don't touch. Agree
before I like I said, I think if Denver and
(17:14):
this is where I'm kind of like it may say
I'm like backtracking to say the leagues in trouble. But
like I think before I thought Denver was gonna beat
them if they were healthy.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I did too, I really did.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
So they still have some room to improve. But if
they go in a championship, you can't touch that.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Maybe you know.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Okay, listen, we need to get better here here and here.
What can we do? Do we put Wiggins Carson Boom
boom to get like a Jordan Clarkson or like a
fucking you got to add something because I'm telling you
one thing. These other teams that you're gonna just keep
watching y'all do what y'all need to do. Everyone else
(17:58):
is gonna get better. So they're going to need to
do something. Nothing drastic, though, but I think they need
to do something.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
So let me ask you guys this right, and I'm
just using it as an example. If you want in
twenty sixteen and Katie's on the market, no, bro alone, No,
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
To say something to you, just the same case. I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I'm trying to say something. What if you want in
twenty sixteen the Warriors, did you go sign Katie.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
In the off season to go back to the Warriors? No?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I'm talking about in twenty sixteen, if they won, they
didn't lose to the Cavs, do you go sign.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Case I'm saying that's the same case, though in a way, I'm.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Saying it depends because if you think your team can
get better, That's what I'm saying, do you go make
that move regardless of the result.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I don't think you do a because I don't know
as a player and as a competitor, do you go
to a team that just won a championship, especially if
you're a superstar, but then they lose the year.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Before they lost they lost in twenty sixteen. That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I'm saying, if they want and Katie's on the market,
are you going to say the worst you don't touch it.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
No, you, I think if you, I think if you will.
But Kadi gotta want to go there too.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
But I'm saying you have to go after Giannis if
you think it will make your team better, is what
I'm saying to you. Guys like okay See has to
make the move to make your team better regardless of
the result.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
That's why. Why not if it makes your team better,
That's that's the that's the discusson.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I understand though, the team chemistry that okay See has,
you can't take that for granted. Bro, Like you put
Yannis on the team, that changes the dynamics. Now, now
it's not shade the guy because they know he's the guy.
But now like throwing Gianness in there, I think it
messes it up, mess up the chemistry a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Man, If there, who's the guy? No, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Going out there because you guys know NBA teams are
always it's a business, always looking at better.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So I'm not saying that I'm asking you because that's
that's a real question. And I think that's where the
stry can get fucked up. If Jannis goes to ok See,
who's the guy exactly?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Who's the guy now?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Now you got to ask that questions still because so
you think Gianna is gonna play second fiddle.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So let me ask you this. Let me ask you
guys this.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Did Joannis have a problem taking the back seat to
Chris Middleton when he needs close games?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Who got him there? He got to the end?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Well though Joannis finished it off, But Chris Middleton was
a big reason why they got to that that game
six or he dropped fifty y'all did y'all forget that run?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
No? I didn't forget it. He was very important, but
he was never that guy.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
He guy to finish games. You never considered him as
Batman ever. No, but I'm saying he was a guy
to finish games. Though, isn't it gonna be the same thing?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I mean, I put that too because even Kyrie would
sometimes finished games, but no one thought he was number one.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
So it's like, why can't you both be one? A,
one B? Like I don't I don't get it, but
I mean we can move.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
On to be honest. I think I think Shane's numbers,
I think Shaye's numbers go down if Jannis go there,
that's okay.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He about to sign that four hundred million dollar bag.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Anyways, and he signed that, he signed that, he definitely
putting the motherfuckers in the hole. Yeah, he sure is.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, seventy six million dollars a year. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Shit, you're not gonna sign an I think for a
Litlegiti program.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I'm with six weeks, he's gonna be a sign fit. Y.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Hey, hey, hey, Stevie, are you are you signing it? No?
Because that put like like you said, that puts a
hole on the team and they and I.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Don't think I am either.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, because that will hold back from them getting better
or signing anyone else, or giving money to anyone else,
or keeping that team together. Superstars usually take somewhat of
a pay cut, to be honest. Taylon Brunson has done
itrk Nevinsky has done it. Lebron has done it. A
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d has done it. There's some guys that do it.
So I think to keep that team together.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
How much of a pay cut is the real question.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
What's the difference between seventy six and sixty six? Don't
say ten.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Million, about about five.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
It's not that it's not that big of a defer.
What can you do with sixty six that you can't
do with seventy six.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You do same ship, Charlie.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You can make it facts exactly, five million dollars is
still five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It is, but at that point, when you hit a
certain range, it's not that bit.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
What goal is.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Let's keep it a stack. We talked about on the
last show. You said, I don't give a dam if
it was two fifty one million, eight million.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
It's still a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
It is a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So you you leaving five to six million dollars off
the table.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
To go sign somebody else. Yep, I would twenty five
one hundred.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
But let's not act like five five million dollars liquid.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It's just like no, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money,
but you gotta think long term. I'll do that. I'll
take a pay cut to sign somebody else.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I agree with you, guys.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I tell you if if, if it came down to it,
Chase twenty five, if he really wanted to play that long,
he could get two more.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Contracts exactly, he can get four a three more.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Think about it.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
His next one will end when he's thirty one. Then
thirty six. He can get three contracts religious three or
four more. Bro, he can play tell he's thirty thirty.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
He could do what Lebron does.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Sound like one year deals, two year deals.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Keeping Remember if y'all he's twenty six right now. His
contract ends next year, so he'll be thirty one thirty
two when his next one expires, then it'll be thirty
five thirty six and he'll sign one more. Realistically, he
has three contracts something.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Him, which is insane. It's insane. And that's why I say, listen, buddy,
if i'm him, I'm doing exactly what TV just saying.
I'm not taking the Super Super because, like he's can,
he can get as much money as he possibly wants.
You don't want MVP. You're gonna win the finals, You're
gonna do it. You can get as much as you want.
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But you know, okay, so he's gonna go in there
be like, hey, look, you deserve it. We will have
happily pay it. Oh I don't know about happily, but
we will pay it. But if we do this, you
give us room to keep stacking these championships. Which one
do you want? And at the end of the day.
The whole goal is to win, and then if you win,
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you're gonna get more money with endorsements, this, that, and
the third, so you're gonna make that money back up.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
But I mean talk about the difference between playing okay
seeing someone like New York though, Does that matter or
that Chase stature doesn't matter?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I think Listen, this man just gave all his teammates rolexes.
He care about his boys. Come, he care, He care
about his boys, so he gonna make sure his boys
eat too, So I can't see him taking the max max.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But like if they ask him, like, hey, would you
give Tim Meal to keep j dup? He gonna do
that shit without even and he Canadian too, so that
tech mail that twenty mel is really like thirty. Yeah,
y'all don't even have health care. Yeah you feel we
don't have health do have? Hell, we don't have we
don't have health care. I have in shambles, bro, His
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money is not he's bro. Anyways, we ain't gona talk
about Canadian taxes and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Let's move by the way. Yeah you know about that.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
But your dollar goes a little bit longer over there.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
You're right, you're right right, I think the more Yeah,
and somebody said in a chat they can they can
have more money and they got hell of picks, so
they're in there.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Okay, season a good spot, bro spot. We already talked
about the shadey thing.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
You no, no, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So does it look better on shade he did that? Okay? Okay?
Did we talk about your your crazy take this morning?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
What crazy take? Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So does it not compete the same against I want
to word it right, compete the same against his peers
as he does the old guard, the old guard, the
old like he'd be getting the old niggas bout of here.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
He said.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
He looked like MJ in front against Braun Stephan them,
but against Luc Jaw he'd be looking destrey.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
He looks very human, He looks very human like.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
That's that's pretty validus not valid at all, really, I.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
He played well against He played well against Jaw in
his first playffic experiment. He played well against Luca cat
sold that series. Tell me when has he not played
against other than this series?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
He just had a bad series, that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
But see if hog didn't just I wanted to get
your first for home gave the numbers.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Think he gave me the numbers. Listen, listen, Bro, I
gotta understand. Okay, she defensively, they're the best team to
put on a flat out clinic. Clinic. They put out
a they put on a clinic, Bro. Because I'm watching
the games, I'm like, what do they do? They sit down?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I mean, everybody's guarding everybody and there's no weakness Alice Caruz.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
They ran a line up the other night with fucking
j Dubb and lou Dor at the five, and Caruso
was guarding the big Like, what the fuck carus the
player guarding Jokic? Come on, Bro, why could be the
best player in the world.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
While he was tackling that nigga? It still was impressive.
His take was garbage?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Whose take?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
First of all, I got to Twitter. I got it
from Twitter. I was just asking the chat, That's all
I was doing. You just asked how.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
He wasn't you tried to make an argument with me today?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
All right, Bro?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
All right, list let's I say.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I say, I say he did not perform, Luca though
I did say that you did, and he did.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Luca performed. I mean he averaged twenty five, like nine
and eight that series, Like lucahead on forty four percent
were talking, isn't this Minnesota, second time losing in the
Western cor Yeah? They lost lst year.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
What do you go from there? What do you do next?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Katyiannis?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
What do you do next?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Let's wait have this conversse because we had it in
our chat yesterday and everybody thought I was crazy for
going after your honest, but.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
This is what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
But who you're getting rid of? Bro?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Noah?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I mean I got to get rid of a shitload
of people for you, honest.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
I think you get rid of Jaden Jew and a
bunch of picks and you can get the job done
like that.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
But the thing is so this the limit is right now,
they can only keep really two of the three phrages
they have like Julius Random, Nasri and uh Alexander Walker.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You probably can't keep all three. No, you can keep No, No,
I ain't gonna be expensive. I'm saying you can keep
two of the three.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I say you can't keep all three of them.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Report just came out of that on that, like they
can't keep Kevin Lucas said, get Jew gone. I'm sorry, Ralph.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't think I'm getting Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
What's the package for him?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I don't think as much of a package. I think
if Kevin Durant says I want to go to Minnesota,
I think you're going to have to get up Jaden.
But are you willing to give up Jaden? I would
fucking Kevin Durant and Kevin you only getting KAD for
a year though, I mean you're getting you.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Get two years in the Minnesota. The son's need a.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Big so they either one nas or or uh what's
the big French French guy Rudy.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Could think his name for a second.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Hey is jayden Is Jaden and June not enough?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Straight up?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
No, No, you need some type of picks, some something
they a big man.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You need picks for Jaden McDaniels and Julius Randall. Not
enough for Kevin Durant. That's a good point. You think
you think you think k D is like, hey, I
want to go to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, I think he would play with he would, but
I think he'd rather go to San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think k would probably want to go to a big,
a bigger market Minnesota. What's the difference what's the difference
between Minnesota and San Antonio? When been Yama?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think Minnesota is a bigger market guys than Tan Antonio.
I don't think it's bigger. It's a bigger city.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
For sure, just cold as fuck up there.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
But but the tax rate be crazy Minnesota. But anyways,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I think I think rockets would if you want to go to
big market. I felt he go through the rocket.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
But okay, so let's let's let's get back to the topic.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
So y'all think you need to make a major move
yesterday our chat for if anybody knows a lot, like
add a couple of pieces. Where are y'all sitting make
a major move or a couple of pieces?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I think I think bring in some a couple of pieces.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
So what do you want to get get done?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
They're gonna need a point guard.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So you don't trust h Mike.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Mike Conley.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
This is this is last year, I think, Mike Conley.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I thank you for doing business.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
He's been eighteen years. Yea, he did a good job.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
He did career since two thousand and seven. I think
he was in the KD draft with Greg Go.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
He did.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
He had a great year.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
But all right, it's time to get yourself a point
guard and probably get yourself figure out.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We your number two is. I mean, I don't know
if Julius is the guy.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Why do you think that?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I like, I like Julius, great player, phenomenal he's gonna
with Tyler, but like, but why do you think that?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
No, he's a phenomenal player, phenomenal player, great player. But
I also think, yeah, he's been inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I mean just the series though before the series, he
was just a consistent player on the team.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Would you guys say he was the best player for
the first two series. Yeah, consistency wise, Yeah he was.
I mean, are we gonna credit okay, see or said
you was bad?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Which one?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I think a little bit about their whole team was bad.
It's like, no one actually had a good series.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But you gotta think, Okay, see not going nowhere? Yeah, yeah, okay,
S's not going in.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, and teams are going to again going to start
building up to face them.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So it's not gonna get easier the West. This is
what the league is now. Everyone was everyone was gearing
up to beat Boston. Okay, Boston's done. They about to
break that bitch up next. Now it's okay. See they're
the new They're the new standard.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
How do we beat them?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Right? So, you can't just beat them with one guy.
You can't just beat them with two guys. You need
to have a great collective group. I think if you
got an Anthony Edwards Kevin Durant, you got a really good team.
If you can keep Evincenzo Ni kil Uh, great.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Corps man they do. They do great guard off the bench.
Obviously nos can be a starter on a lot of teams.
So I don't know. I think this team could get
it done.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I think they just have what's the definition of insanity,
doing the same shit over and over and expecting a
different results.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
So so let me ask you this.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
This is their first year with you, right, yeah, so
kick it back to both of you guys. They both
had really bad series. You didn't see if they actually
played well against this team, and they couldn't get the
job done.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So the only reason I'm not there it's because of money.
I think jew is gonna get paid more than not.
So I personally I love Julius in Phoenix, him and
Devin Booker Philip I feel like that would do really
well for him, but because then he can just be him.
Oh he's a free agent.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, he's not on the team right now. You need
to sign and trade. That's when they can go anywhere.
That's what I'm saying, Like they have to sign him
Nas and to kill.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You're gonna keep two to three.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Julius has a player option so for for next year,
so he's gonna be a he is a free agent.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, what's the player water. Julius has a player option
next year for how much money is how much?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Let me double check. It's like it's like thirty something,
get forty. It's thirty one.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
He could get forty.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But I think I don't.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Think Minnesota trades cat and thing without making sure they
lock up due.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
There's no way they do. Shouldn't do that. I think they.
I think they try to keep.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah, they keep jewles, they keep them.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
They keep keep, You keep Julius, you keep Nas keep.
Somebody asked in the check. Actually, sorry for the fish,
just topic my apologies.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I probably think Nas that I'm being I think I
think that is gone. Yeah, because I think he's been
Nas has been playing second fiddle his whole career. Probably
he probably like Okay, it's time for me. You start time, So.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Let me kick it to you, guys, Nas and every
pick you have, not every pick, but three two three
first round picks for KD.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
No, it's a great piece for you. Sign and trade
sign Phoenix. They need a big man. Why not?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
They need a big man, Rudy, Rudy. No, but let's
actually talk about I don't know how the numbers work.
We look at the numbers, but I'm saying you might
have to give it.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Why can Nas another player and then a bunch of
picks not getting done for Katie?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But you weren't. You weren't saying the picks. If I
said the picks.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You need to send two to three picks to get that.
That's what I'm saying. I agree, What are you doing
the deal?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah, I'll do the deal.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Get drop my mind. You can't, He's like, you can't. Uh,
I don't think you can break up the core guys.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
This is part of that core, though, is he? He
makes them such a different team.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Know when I say the core, I mean the top
three players McDaniels, uh and Jewels. You don't get rid
of those three, so anybody else's so who else?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
You got to give up, yo, So do you do
you consider no part of the cortho he is, but he's.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
He's the fourth best player in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Ah, just gone he because like once you put it
in that perspective, yeah, he kind of he kind of
needs to be because like he could be a lot
of money.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
L A needs him. Okay, somebody, somebody will pay him,
for sure. You guys got anything else on the I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
There's something. There's some teams that definitely could use him.
I mean I can't think of one right now. I mean,
like I said, Phoenix's.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Lakers, Lakers, guys, every seal team in the league could
use he can he's a seventh Is he a footer
or is he six ten?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Same ship six eleven?
Speaker 5 (36:09):
He's six eleven, six ten. He could shoot the ball.
Every team in the league could use.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Him to put the ball on the floor.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Chat asked, I don't know if we want to talk
about it now, but who y'all picking this series? Healthy
Celtics or health or thunder.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Us?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
The thunder so much fucking thunder bro Thunder is fucking special.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I think I think Charlie on Peril.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Now it might be I talked to Ray, Yeah money
getting right Ship Thunder look good man, Well.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
That's tough.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
That is tough.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
But chat if y'all have any more questions, make sure
you guys let us know.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I think I think I'm gonna go healthy Thunder, healthy
thunder because just the better defense is the better defense.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It's similar.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
But no, bro, Ship, we just saw him do that
was that was an insane defense they were playing.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
It's it's the it's the thunder Year.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
It's yeah this year.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I always hate thunder Year dance. And were counting Now Indiana, Huh.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I think it's gonna be a serious I think Indiana
has a chance. No one believes me, but I feel
like indian has a chance. They're playing really fucking good.
They got a chance because it's they ain't play the
game yet. Wow, we had exactly all right, man.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
What happens? What happens when oka defense?
Speaker 5 (37:26):
No, But the thing is is that you guys said
all the time, Indiana is so unpredictable.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Anybody can go off. I don't think that.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
I think Indiana is a pretty I won't say a
good matchup, but I think that Indiana can still get
get points against them.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't know if it's a sagree.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I think it's gonna be a series because, like I
said before, no one plays fast like Indiana. Them dudes
fly up and down to the court, fly, ain't no
jogging back ain't and like you said, they're very unpredictable.
But I'm gonna be honest. I just don't see nobody
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being okay. See in okay? See why is that graphic
up right? I don't see nobody being okay seeing okay.
It's Rocky chat chat saying your camera is dirty, Bro,
wipe your camera.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Bro, This camera isn't dirty. It's just as the lighting
is pretty bad. That's all good.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
The lighting is rough. Hey, hey, who said it? I'll
give you a shout out Burton?
Speaker 5 (38:31):
But Burton's a hater though. Burn be talking a lot
of ship, But it's all good.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
We appreciate Burn.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
You burns here all the time. I appreciate Burn. He's
here all the time, but he a little bit of
a hater.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Appreciate you, big Burt, big big Hey, send us a
picture of you, big Burke. Let's see how that goes.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
We appreciate you Burn. You're always here, so shout out
to you guys.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
By the way, as of next week, guys will only
be on the to the ball Hall channels, so y'all know,
make subscribe there.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Turn us up.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Last question before we get out of this topic. Was
this one of the most boring Western Conference Finals we've.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Seen a little bit?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, sir, an elimination game, bro, like for us all
across the world.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, we start watching after the first quarter, after the first.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
First half, other than Game four, was there a game
that was actually that entertaining.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Show?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
What it should have been the whole time? Game four?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
The Western Conference Finals should have been Denver and Okac.
That's yeah, that was exactly And if Denver was healthy,
I don't know, we'll be having this conversations about Okay,
we'll be talking about them.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
What do you mean if Denver is healthy, they don't
have any legs.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Bro, there wasn't healthy. Aaron Gordon Hamstream. They gave him
my man, fucking Murray was fucking the flu game the
whole Come on, I hear you, Michael Porter's shoulder finished, Hall.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
You know the chat be getting at you about you
talking to them.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Shut the fun up talk.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I shouldn't come back to you like that I'm blacked
out black.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
It's all love until the ball.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
But where where I'm disagreeing with you guys? Well specific
because you guys said that they were just too tired
because they didn't have enough players. They played seven players.
You said you hadn't say it was injuries.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
But they were hurt though they were hurt to the
guys that were playing, were playing hurt, that's what he said.
And Ship Westpur we found out Westbrook was playing hurt
the whole time.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
That's that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Did y'all see that boat.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
I don't know if it's I hope it's not bullshit,
but that Russell Westbrook is considered retirement.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That's why you're getting surgery.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And he said he's coming back up.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
But somebody said he a terrible repright, cool reput source.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I think I saw the represents that garbage, garbage source.
Hopefully if you if you, if you have to say
you're a reputable source, you're.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Not a rep you.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
No, that's that's funny. But yeah, we could be having
a different talk. But now let's get let's get.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
To the hand.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
I'm gonna ask the chat a chat. Just put in
the chat for everybody that's here. Does Denver win if
they were healthy?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Do y'all believe that? Let us know?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, let us know.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
And somebody said, damn home was gonna finish answer a
question or question. I don't know question you're talking about,
but throw the question in.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
That's one.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
That's one hell of name, mister Crabs. I'm assuming he's
a SpongeBob fan. That's all I can assume.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Appreciate you showing his love.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Man, all right, we'll go to We're going out to Indiana.
Man to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
That's sick work. Hey, hold Michael, Michael Jackson from Indiana.
Not too much?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Go okay, I mean you're the Indiana fan.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I thought you would. I didn't know where that was going.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So look, so look we had a Halliburn masterclass Last
Game thirty two, fifteen twelve, no turnovers, perfect games. Halliburton
actually transitioning into a superstar.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
It's up for debates in conversation. I don't think he's
there yet, No, just transcending. He's transient right right, He's
moving in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
And if if he do some damage to in this finals,
that's what I'm saying. He ain't gotta win.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
But take him six games, take him six games, hes
gonna put So can we define superstar?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Right?
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Do you guys, Field, Charlie and Cam, do you guys
think off the quarter is part of it? Because I
do believe that.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I think if you're you have to have package.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
We're not talking about a top five player in the
league on the basketball court. We're talking about when you
talk about a superstar, you talk about some of that
trend and sends a game that's larger than life.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
What are you asking he's saying, is he gonna be
a superstar?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Kawhi do? What does Kawhi do off the court?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
But he's a fun guy.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
But but I don't think most people are calling him
a superstar in terms of like the whole persona.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
He's he's a superstar player.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I ain't gonna lie, bro, and and I'm gonna say
this and I mean this and not the most non
glazing way possible.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Anyways, Bro, let's feel go. It's fine. He thinks it's
only on the court. It's all good.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I mean, he got certain type of way.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
You can you can we can have the best okay
if we had an okay player on the court, but
he's the best guy off the court. Doesn't mean a
nigga is a superstar.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
But I say both of them play apart.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yes, they play a little bit apart. You can't be
a dickhead just fucking smacking people on the street and ship.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
But you don't need to be doing I don't.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
This is for me, and how I apologize. I'm not
trying to say that's your viewpoint. For me, I don't
give a fuck what you do off the court. I
want you to be a very responsible citizen, a good dude.
Other than that, I'm cool with you. Like, listen, let's
go and put it out there. James Harder be outside
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he's outside side exactly. I don't care. I don't care, right,
And he's still a super like he still is a superstar.
He puts on a show.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Every community services.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
I'm talking about, like do people want to if you
just flock you are you in commercials? I'm talking about
like that type of ship I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
So that's what I'm saying, But.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Like, but that's what But that's part of it. You
have to have marketable MASSI appeal.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Have you seen Tyres and have you seen Tyres in
a commercial? No?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Maxine, Yeah you are.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
No.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah, I'm saying he's going to be after this, After this, he's.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Going to be.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
He's going to I didn't say, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I'm going to say, this is the right word. Yes,
Tyrese Haliburton is on the way to being a superstars.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Look, I'm saying he's had and I don't mean the
same trajectory as far as like Team says, none of that.
He's having the same like transcending ship as Sha had
a few years ago. Look the nigga be you on
leaf face every day. Bleach Reports started making memes about him.
Like I said, he's starting to actually talk in the
press press conference, and we pay attention to what he's saying.
Now he's going to have he's only going to start
having commercials after this. I agree he gets a shoe deal,
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it's gonna be wrapped.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Disagree with any of you guys. I'm just asking what
is your standard for a superstar.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
That's the fact that he did the choke sign that
makes him well.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I've seen several shirts already with that ship That's what
I'm saying, like it's getting to that point, it's gonna
get there.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm not saying it's there now. I'm just saying you
could get there, and it was on the way for sure.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
The way he's on the way. You got that on
the way. Smirk on your face. Bro, you don't believe
that's cool? Look you got that.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
That's what's happened.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Nothing, Bro, we're not moving on.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Hold on, let's stay on this topic real quick. How
do you make your money? Are you paying your money
to go? Nothing?
Speaker 5 (46:26):
It has nothing to do with ty Reese in the basketball.
I'm just all I'm saying, let's move on talking.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
About that ship.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Hey, all right, so let's get to his Robin Pascal Sia.
Is he the most underrated number two in the league. Yes,
So let's give the viewers some context. Justin Jackson, shout
out to j Jackson. Also shout out to Tony Bradley. Fellow,
run run your race alone. You wouldn't see champ. Shout
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out to Tony Brodley. He played some minutes ball, yeah,
and he was in the g last year, So shout
out to Tony. The context is that Jay Jackson. Is
he the best number two option in the league. That's
quote unquote not a superstar. So just all of our
viewers know what y'all think.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yes he is. Uh, you gotta remember him. He's been
here before. Yeah, you got a chick showed up and
showed up and he wasn't number two guy cooked Draymond
cooked him cry.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Chicken and that was still like prime Draymond too, that
was prime Draymond.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
So yes, I mean he's very super underrated. Uh, he's
a guy that you don't really give enough credit to.
But he's a big piece why Indiana is where they are.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Even. I mean, is he a number two?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah? He for sure?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Can I can I kind of put this in perspective,
And I don't know if I'm gonna get flocked for
this or not.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
No, boy, by now you're used to it. Brohoy, here
comes dropping.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Indiana.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
It is a very good basketball team here. Hear what
I'm saying that we actually.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah, they got they gotta they got a good basketball team.
It comes. I don't I don't know if anybody like
Tyrese is the the face, but who's really the star?
Who's really the star? Said? Because just think about this though,
because like tonight, nim Hart might go to funk off.
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We're not even talking about this series being what it
is right now. If n Smith didn't go off, it
wasn't Tyres, it wasn't Pascal. No, no, no, no no.
Smith won that game for sure, but won the game.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, he closed out some games?
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Is that not proven? What the fuck I'm saying?
Speaker 8 (49:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Game three?
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Game three?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Uh? The fucking guy McDonald's insane. You know, the guy
that wanted was what's my man named dominic? Uh? He
had twenty points in ten minutes? Bro, this guy? What
what do you mean? We talked about a perfect game,
literally had a perfect Are you.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Talking about Matthren math Man? Matt Throne off the bench?
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Ya?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Dominant?
Speaker 1 (49:31):
We go?
Speaker 2 (49:32):
How much you have? Thirty two, fifteen and twelve? Zi?
What are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Talk?
Speaker 1 (49:38):
And had twenty ten and nine at halftime? Come on, guys,
he's the one that won the game four.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
He played a perfect game for I didn't say I
didn't say nothing about Game four? Isai? He cooked Game four?
He balled out. And I think they have a really
good They have a really good team around them, and
they play very well together. I think they all compliment
each other. I don't think they need a That's why
they're so good. You don't know who the next star is.
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You can't game plan for them because it can be
anybody in any position. You see what I'm saying. One
night it could be Pascal Miles Turner at your four
or five. The next night could be Obi a Pascal.
The next night could be Obi and Miles. Like they're
that good where they all copy each other and they
make each other better. There's only one person that will
be in the game no matter what.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
That's Tyrese.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
But that's what I'm saying to y'all though. That's why
I think they present a different challenge to Okay.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
See, is that you don't know where it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
It's hard to just guard because ok is very good
at Obviously, we see them locking on locking on A
and you. We'll see what they do when then you
can when five can get you.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Well, we got to think about this. Okay, First, let's
let's put this in perspective. Let's be realistic, and let's
talk basketball here. First series, they played the Milwaukee Bucks.
You had Aj Green. They played the Milwaukee You at
the these niggas Cleveland hurt whole team. They were playing
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three white guys.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
They had.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Crazy the hoops, they had uh uh morell uh and
what's the other guy?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Max strus By?
Speaker 3 (51:18):
By you bangal They were to the Baja on These
mothers got them up out here. Then this series they
are attacking Jayalen Bronson. They are attacking Karl Anthony Towns
every chance they got. Who are you attacking on a
KC's guard?
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Bro? No, you no, You're right there. But I'm just saying,
it's just a different challenge. That's it. They can get
up and down. It's just a different game.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
I don't know for sure. I think that it is
a different challenge. But if you trust the person around
you and if if okay see plays hard, they're winning.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
I don't give an We said this though, right do
the are the pacers the four pistons of today's game?
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Is like in the offensive? Sorry?
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Are the pacers the Okay? Are the pistons of four
the offensive?
Speaker 6 (52:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Because I don't think the pace timing.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
Is I don't mean defensive. I just talking about how
their everybody gets it done collectively. In terms of there's
no superstar team they play really well as a team,
and anybody can beat you, whether it's Cheat, whether it's Rip,
whether it's Chauncey.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
It's it's matchups.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
The playoffs is match us. If the Pacers played the Pistons, uh, oh,
it might be a it can probably it might get spooky,
you know what I'm saying, Like they have to. If
the Pacers played Boston might be a different series. Like
they have played the right teams at the right time.
In my opinion, not taking away anything from them, because
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I have said from the beginning of the playoffs the
pacer is a really good basketball team and you gotta
watch out for them. But they have had a very
good road, which is okay to where they are today.
You're catching New York very hurt, very tired, and they're cooked.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Very hurt.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, is not hurt. Carl Towns is fucked up.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
I mean at this point, you know, you know all
that right now, his knee is fucked up. Yeah, his
knee is fucked I mean he still.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Gave you twenty and some change. How's it really hurt? Okay,
not hurt. They're tired, They're they're exhausted, and we know
that what's going on you are.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
You're good because I want to say something you said before,
but I don't. I don't want outside. I said what
I say, talk your ship home. Aaron Gordon played.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
But he played with a great two Hampshire injury. Blah
blah blah doesn't count. But now when cat plays with
a need what we do here? Charlie again, you were going.
Speaker 5 (53:54):
Hard when I said, well Aaron Gordon still played. You're
like he played with one leg at carl Anthony twas
playing one leg? Why you're not gett being consistent.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
With its not because it's different. You're talking about a
grade two hamstring.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
And we don't know what's wrong with his NEI they're
just not reporting it. We don't know.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
So how you saying we don't know what was wrong
with his knee, but you're saying his knee as fucked wrong.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
You talk to him, You talked to him.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
We don't know what. We don't know what's wrong with
the people asked me to shut the fuck up. So
I'm not trying everything.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
We know.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
We know he has a grade to hamstring issue.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
That for a fact.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
We you, Yeah, you're right, and we don't know what's wrong.
With Anthony Cup Anthony Town.
Speaker 5 (54:36):
Something wrong with Cat though. That's what theo's point is.
And I agree with THEO, but we don't know what.
We know something, but we don't know what. Hey, by
the way, just so everybody knows, Charlie is not wearing
Jersey state, which is really weird for us. That's the
first thing we said.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yeah, you know, I'm on the field early today, so
you know I was working.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
You know what I mean? He was working. Listen, listen,
we've been we've been on Indiana.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Let's let's be nick.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
So since we're talking about Cat, will they have any
chance to come back?
Speaker 3 (55:04):
No? No like that.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Why do you the first one? You need an ether
beat right now?
Speaker 3 (55:15):
First of all, it's extremely difficult to come back from
three to one. Let's pain something for Charlie. Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (55:22):
You want me to spain real quick?
Speaker 3 (55:24):
You got something? Go check out my try give me sixteen.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
I ordered that. It's gonna play on here. It's gonna
play on here.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
Eventually, that's the end of our relationship, no.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
More boxing.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
I opened up and I told you something, you know
what I mean? And then now you're gonna use it
against me.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
I opened up.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
Paus.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
That's crazy. But yo, let's talk about so no chance
for you, Charlie.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
No, I don't think New York. I mean, I love
man hating on New York Knicks and all that. I
love New York. I just hate the next But there's
no chance they come back from this three to one.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Indiana's playing tremendous basketball, and I just don't see the Knicks, uh,
coming back out of this hole. Man. It's extremely difficult
to beat a team three times in a row. That's
extremely difficult to do. And we haven't seen that. I
don't even think we've seen that this series. I don't
think I mean this, uh, this playoff series from any team.
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So it's tough.
Speaker 9 (56:35):
Man.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Know the Calves.
Speaker 5 (56:36):
Only the Calves, right, they swept, right, that's the only
thing that won three games in a row.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah. I don't think any other teams ever want this
play He gave up off. He were he were cheeks. Bro.
They didn't belong to be there, bro. Yeah they didn't
want Yeah, yeah what you got for you? Well, yeah
you did come back. The Minnesota went three in a row.
They did Lakers. It was one one that Yeah, Minnesota
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one's three in a row again one one l A.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
Like, yeah, yeah, right, I would say this. I would
say this. Uh, I can see the next winning tonight. Yeah,
I could see them winning tonight.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Not the question, my boy, they're not going Yeah, I
was gonna get that.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
What did Tat say?
Speaker 2 (57:26):
Shut them?
Speaker 4 (57:27):
Shut the up? I'm gonna get a T shirt. Shut
the funk up home. That's my new.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
Hilarious.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Hey, I'm with it. I want no.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
You No, that was not I did not answer the question.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
No, they are not coming back, all right, for the
sole purpose of even if they did win tonight, they're
gonna be gassed. They're gonna do everything they can to
win tonight. They're gonna be cooked when they get the
game six back in Indiana. They're not winning that one.
And like I said, I said this before. At some point,
the way Tills play these guys is gonna come back
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to hurt them. And it has. I don't care what
nobody says. It's toughness, all this dumb shit that everyone
wants to say. It's not that you have to use
your bench and the other guys to help you win games.
They don't do it. They rely on Jalen and Cat
to carry them.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
In everything.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
Michael og OG's not even moving like he like he
was another gaming. He had a good game last game,
but that before that one, it was like four or
five games until he had a good since he had
a good one, Like I think that the ship comes
it to play. Now he has two or three games.
He's been using his bench. But guess what, and they
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came out there, they're like, ship, we out here, what
we do? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
It's sometimes it's two exactly. I think it is a
certain situation.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
You're putting these guys in and the Eastern Conference Finals
against the team that plays the fastest out of anybody.
Speaker 4 (59:08):
That's throwing somebody into the five.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
Year and what and they get and they have given
great minutes, they have done great things. The line right
play Well, yes, you gotta gotta you gotta be ready.
You gotta be ready to play. But I'm telling you
from experience, you are not ready if you play for
Tom Thibodeau, because you are not expecting to play at all.
(59:31):
You've heard Jeff t talk about it. Anybody who's played
from that is not played. You are not expecting at
all to get into the game.
Speaker 4 (59:39):
But let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Let me ask you this, though they've been doing that
all season long, not using their bench like that to
why all of them get you get you get them
to this point Now you're telling him he needs to
switch up. Where was all these comments when the Nicks
beat the Boss? You feel me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
That he said this is going to catch up with them.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
I have said that, I have said this, he said that,
but you got to talk to feel about that. I've
said I've said this from day one, and everyone's like,
Tom Thibodeau is a good basketball coach.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
He is.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Game manager of players and phil I think he.
Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Struggles with that And do you truse that's okay?
Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
So do you truly believe that you said he needs
your adjustment in twenty twenty two?
Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
He's a He's a good basketball coach. Peel, he is
not there.
Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
His feel is not there in my opinion, because he
gets so locked in on the game he can't see
what the fuck is really happening on, Like, oh, Jalen
looks like this, this like a lexidaisical throw to the
corner and be like damn, he looked tired of ship again,
not the game like that part is he don't see that.
(01:00:58):
He's just like tougher, go hold hard, you gotta run
a little bit more, you gotta do a little extra conditioning.
I'm like, no, nigga, just taking the fuck out the
game like that. That's not what this is about. I've
said it before. I think they have a team that
can do something. I don't know if he's the coach
to do it. And I've said this from day one.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I think he just.
Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
You can't you can't ignore the fact that all his
teams do the same thing. Yeah, but isn't this you
can't ignore it. He's gotting the Knicks, Yeah, the Bulls team.
Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Yeah, when you put Derek Rose in with like what
was it like less than and then it left, they're
up twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I'm still salty about that ship. Hey, Derek, forgive him,
so y'all should forgive him.
Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
But this is what I'm saying to that though, to CV,
this is the farthest he got them, right, you can't
take these opportunities for granted. Right at the end of
the day, I don't think they beat Detroit nixt year
because they're gonna be a lot better. You see what
I'm saying. They're gonna be more. Boston's gonna If Boston
is healthy, do you beat them?
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
You actually make a really good point. Might have been
their best year you beat Boston. But Boston jt ain't
gonna be back to twenty six twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
True, But other teams than He's gonna be better. I
know it ain't gonna be that good. True.
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
If if Cleveland's healthy, do they beat Cleveland?
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
You already know my answer.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
In Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Are they gonna be Indiana again next year? That's what
I'm saying, Like Indian still gonna be there. That's a
fact that doesn't say in not going on over this.
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
They're young.
Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
You already know who's available.
Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Coach was.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
From Denver, oh coach back Malone.
Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Let's talk about that another time, guys, Let's talk about
that another time. Let's yea, what they do, let's what
I do for this they got. But that's a question
because I haven't answered the question yet. They aren't going
to win the series. I don't think the Knicks win
another game. And here's why, damn.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Kind of like what you said about Minnesota in Game four,
I think the Knicks really tried their best to win
that game.
Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Not in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Halla Burton had eight insane game and Knicks played, didn't
play bad. Knicks didn't play bad. Halliburton was just too
much for them. But yo, and they're only getting more
tired as a series goes on, so you can both
make great points. I don't think Jalen Brunson is going
out like.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
That though, Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Yeah in New York. In New York, New York is
gonna be.
Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Rowdy, man, He's going to be jail, you know, and
still young. I feel like jailing until the buzzer goes jailing,
gonna keep playing.
Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
And he's clutch player of the year too. I agree
the fact that I might say, that's what I'm saying.
I just won't compare the two teams.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
New York playing at home. I don't see New York
playing that egg and I don't think the New York
fans will allow you to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
You you get moved out of New York and they
won't let you like, they're gonna kill you if you
they would destroy it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
That's a lot of people to like that, though I'm
not saying give up. A lot of people are scared
to play for New York because of what the playing
in New York, the market to commands, to commands from you, bro,
Playing in New York is not easy, bro, and I
don't think.
Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
I don't see New York laying the egg. I think
it's gonna be a phenomenal game. I'm gonna go down
to the wire.
Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
On the flip side, playing in New York also comes
with the benefits if you play hard and they love you.
It does, right, it does. So Yeah, So y'all got
series is done tonight. Everybody says that I think it
is done.
Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
I'm gonna say something positive about the Knicks right now.
Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
I think New York.
Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I think New York wins because I think the building
is going to be electrifying. I think, uh, it's just
better for basketball. The script. You ain't get the script.
I got the script already.
Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Script. You got some script even wrong quite a bit. Casey, Bro,
there he goes, you go. But uh, I think New
York wins today. I'm with you, Charlie. Actually, I think
New York takes care and.
Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I think Indiana closes it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Indiana.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I think the Knicks. I think the Knicks Wednesday. I
think the Knicks win today and we get a PJ.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Tucker signing. Wow, like PJ in the series.
Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
I mean, he hasn't even plain No.
Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I mean, like, I just I just think he could
do Like, I think he could do something.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
You imagine if you play this series and he guard Pascal.
Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
That's what I don't know, if everything, I don't think
it's that sweet. But the only problem with that is
four against five.
Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
On the other hand, yeah, PJ. PJ is a better
shooter than PJ is a better shooter than Josh Hart.
Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I think.
Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
I think corn threes three.
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I mean, that's why he made a living off the
corny threes, made a lifting off the corner three. You
know what I'm saying. So you're asking him get twenty.
Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
You got twinning tonight, I got the next winning tonight,
So you got pagers and six.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah. To be honest, I want this ship to go
to seven because this is the most exciting close as
closed out of everything. Think about it. You really going
to bed about this finals? I mean, I like, I
like who's right, I like who I would rather see
it going. I want Indiana to win, obviously, but let
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it go to seven.
Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
And I hesitated because.
Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
You really want to win. If you're Indiana, you really
want to win.
Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
To night, you really do. You want to end this ship.
Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
You don't want to go You want to end this
ship and you don't want to play around with this
team there. You just.
Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
You go back to go back to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
That's the pressures on who if you go back to Indiana. Indiana, Indiana, Yeah,
because you ain't trying to go back to New York.
You don't want to go back to New York.
Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
In Game seven said but to Indiana's defense, I don't
want to New York hasn't won a game in New York.
Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
So it's true against the don't want to game in
New York. A field does mean anything to you because
you're from North Carolina. Garner Road, PJ. He can suck
it up out there, Garner Road.
Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Hey listen, he's gonna bring a different type of tenacity,
and like I said, there's a certain type of respect
to You're not gonna just go at PJ.
Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Tucker.
Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
You know what I'm saying, Like that ain't just PJ Tucker,
That's what I'm hearing. I would I say, I say,
I said, you did give him a couple of minutes.
I say, you throw out JB. Michale O, G PJ.
Tucker and kat Or Mitchell. Whoever played the best? Put PJ.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Tucker out there Indiana and five Bro. Yeah, God damn ship.
Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
PJ is my guy too. He's gonna be fresh with
some fresh kicks. I tell you that my election, But
I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
Think that's save the Rick Carlos stuff from race from
two I got. I want to answer a question from
Kevin Kevin Lucas. Shout out to Kevin. Also shout out
to Mike and on Nass. Here here's my question for y'all.
What star needs to change the most between d Book,
Trey Young and Zion. I think the obvious choice is Ion.
Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Know what you said again?
Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
What star needs to.
Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
Change the most between Book, Trey Young and Zion? I
think it's I think in order is Zion did in
trade correct? Because I think trade needs to go somewhere.
Get his recognition. He's not getting tough trade.
Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Listen, Bro, do y'all understand how consistent trade has been.
Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
That's what I'm saying. He don't get the love he deserves.
Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
It might be trade in Zion. No, it has to
be Zion.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Listen, listen, hear me out. Just hear me out. Just
hear me out, Just hear me out.
Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Zion team is still okay, they don't They're not complete ship.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
She know that that organization is cursed. Bro. He need
to get out just because the organization they're gonna find
a way to be bad.
Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
What are the Hawks, bro?
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Hawks are best situations than New Orleans. New Orleans is
just like they have good young talent and they get there.
Hold on, they get there, hold on. So what I
would say to y'all is more so like Zion hasn't
been healthy.
Speaker 8 (01:09:17):
There.
Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
There's a lot of criticism, a lot of back and
forth being him in that front office. At least Tray
has been cool at the front office. Put together a
better team.
Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Look at everything in perspective y'all used to have over Zion,
the thinking about all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
I think, I'm just I'm probably I'm just more ready
to see Trey be somewhere else and flourish.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
In my opinion, facts, I love but.
Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
One. But once again, what is one thing you said?
Zion can go somewhere as motherfucker still might not play.
Zion needs to make better decisions off the court.
Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
But but that's you know what I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
But that's what I say, discussing where I'm gonna call it,
we're more talking about that is we're more talking about that.
We're not even talking about the who's We're talking about
him off the court then just this ship on the
court that it is nasty, but it's disgusting. But that's
what I'm saying, my superstar, and you know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
But I feel that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
Sometimes a change of sceneer, it feels like it benefit
Zion more than trads change the scene room benefit.
Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
All right, So what if Zion goes to what if
Zion goes to Phoenix or some ship?
Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
Well, listen, that is what it is. But I'm just
saying I think just him being more toxic. For sure,
it's toxic, but we're saying if someone wants to make
a change, it would benefit their career more.
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
That's all because I think the change will be eye opening.
I think Trey will still be finding Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Oh, somebody said Trey and Orlando.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I've been saying, we have been saying address he fits,
they need they need a point guard.
Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
That's really what the rolling all right.
Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
But by the way, y'all, we are moving to the
Baha fully full time. After the next week. Make sure
you'll go to the channel.
Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
We're gonna be full full house too. Next week.
Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Maybe maybe we'll see Ray gonna be here.
Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Might not be here with ship the way is playing
over there. We might see them a lot sooner than
he hooping. What you, bro, Bro, I need forty though,
I need forty. We need a leg That's good though,
because that means I can see you scoring forty. I
need you to score for it, meaning that you're capable
of scoring.
Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
We need a legacy.
Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
I need a forty ball from you. That's it for sure.
If I hit my first one, it's it's forty for sure.
It's forty.
Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Okay. I gotta get onto the watch play.
Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
In Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
I'm with that.
Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
We talk about it, talk about it, but we're gonna
check them out.
Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
I don't need no passports now.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
We don't just bring your license driver's license.
Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
I need to pass away. Oh yeah, yeah, damn yeah,
it's good looking it up.
Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Questioning all the Hongslander Bro killing you in the chat.
Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
I'm talking from my own gang bro.
Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
People.
Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
People were given for the people people want us to
knock on you.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
That's what we are.
Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
This is anyways, let's let's let's transition. Let's talk about
the state of the league right now.
Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
It's not that much. Let's just talk about, yes, right,
the state of the league in general. I've seen the like.
Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
So there was this tweet talking about like how fans
were disappointed and what the finals match is going to
be potentially is going to be Indiana And Okay, see,
are we to the point because something something that Kadi
said a long time ago. Are we to the point
where NBA fans aren't actually real basketball fans?
Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
It's getting real spooky, bro. They're starting to kiss me
off too because Kadi said this.
Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Who brought it up in our chat was j Jackson.
Jacks Yeah, you want to elaborate, go ahead. Sorry, it's
just such a yeah, bro, It's just.
Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
It's just so weird, bro, because it's like, why do
we not want to see other people? Why do we
want to see the same as human beings.
Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
We are a creature of habit. We get very comfortable, right.
Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
I think this is good for basketball that we have
other teams that are able to compete and get to
championship level pedigree. Right, We're about to have either okay,
see Indiana or New York Knicks being the champions. And
I think Indiana, I don't know if they've won one Okay,
(01:13:37):
see never won one. Nicks, damn there might have not
have won one. Ship. That ship was a win fifty
years ago, you know what I'm saying. So like, let's
appreciate that we got young talent that's really becoming superstars
and they're playing good basketball, you know what I'm saying.
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Like everyone's on this shave free throw merchant. Shit, Listen,
if you don't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
The man. The man is getting to his spots.
Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
If you jump and you're undisciplined, you're folloing him and
he's getting to the line. There's nothing you can say
to him about that. It's annoying, one hundred percent, get it.
It is very annoying. But I thoroughly enjoy seeing new
teams there that are because, like I said, Katie Steph
and Bron James Harden Kawhi, those guys are on the
(01:14:31):
way out. We need to see basketball continue to grow
and get it to this new phase or we're gonna
order the radies are definitely gonna go to fuck down right. Well,
this didn't have when Jordan came along and took out
Magic and Bird. What the fuck did we hear?
Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
Then?
Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Nothing because Jordan was on the way. Okay, when Jordan left,
we had Brin Thank you Jesus for bron Now we
got Wimby Yoki yahn Is Shaye uh Luca.
Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
I just I just named a couple.
Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
Because was that the context you're speaking about cam or
was it more just like how the league just becoming
an entertainment show rather than actual about who?
Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
No, I meant people. Well, it's a little bit about
how I say this. I believe that if it's not
certain teams, people are like what the fund? But then
they want but then they'll hate watch those teams.
Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
But the thing is, though the NBA is a is
a player driven league, it is so like you know,
you guys are all big football fans, right, Yeah, y'all
don't give a fuck about players.
Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Really, y'all be following teams. That's sometime the NBA roles.
Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Yeah, because like I have a favorite player that also
have my favorite team and those are the same.
Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Because I like, I don't follow football much.
Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
But I'm not following if I'm fallowing football, fall with
a team, because I'm saying, you.
Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Know how the n b A. The n b A
is in a transition stage right now from the Superstars,
your Lebron's, your you know, k D Staph. We're transitioning
over now to this new n b A. Yeah, ratings
are gonna be low. It might be down, but it's
gonna pick back up because, uh, the NBA is fun
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to watch when it's all said and done, it's it's
exciting to watch. It is gonna be fun. It's gonna
be fun. I think it's just because of the markets.
Right we got Indiana. Okay, See that ship is not
it's not sexy. It's not sexy. But I think it's
gonna be good basketball at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
And I think it will build those markets to being
built bigger markets.
Speaker 5 (01:16:37):
I think Tyres and Shaft. I mean, it might be
a good little rivalry started out of this. I think
would be a good little.
Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Ribbaly we won't ever see this ship again, might.
Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Be right, I'm talking about just like every time they
meet up.
Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
But hang, let's be honest, No, no one's no one's
I mean, unless it's on national TV, which it probably
will be next year. No one's going on league passing
the oh Ship. Shane Tyree's playing the night Let's.
Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Well, why not must watch TV.
Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
That's the problem TV, that's the that's that's the problem.
As hoopers. I would enjoy to watch that, you know
what I'm saying. But we just got it. We have
to be okay with letting Lebron, Katie and Steph go.
Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
Yeah, but to your point, that's the problem though, right
like these both these teams play good basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Why are we not excited for that? I am, but
we real we think it's we're real hoops watchers.
Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Were but you hung.
Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Everyone can tell you to shut the fuck up, but
you just hit it on top of the head. Bro Basketball, NBA.
They cheer for players, you know why they cheer for players.
Though we're not wearing a helmet. You can be more
personal with this person. When you're in football, it's really
just the team, motherfucker's really just no numbers. You only
know a certain amount of people. You even know, you
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only know a certain amount of people on every football team.
The quarterbacks, yeah, really just quarter you know the quarterback
you know running back and made me a defensive tackle
is arguably the best. He's a defensive end. But I'm
saying I don't even know even then.
Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
The best player in the NFL arguably, like resume wise
is Aaron Donald and really not. He's not a superstar
considered like Aaron Donald retired though, but I'm saying like
he but from the nin yet he was. He was
arguing the best defense player with ever Donald was. He
just retired last year. He just retired last year. Okay,
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Like know, but the problem we got these fans truly
hoopers bro like hoop fans. We know that though you
know what I'm saying. So this is the every time
about me. But I watched Hoops every single night growing up.
Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Like that's what That's what a little bit everybody was
talking about. I just have a different opinion.
Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
But yo, let's talk about you guys, got anything else
on this? I just don't want to bring up the
ESPN new versus old ESPN. Yeah, do you want to
play the Mark Jackson's clip first.
Speaker 8 (01:19:06):
Back back dagger threes by Lebron James the best player?
That's good defense, but better hop beench mama, now.
Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
You want to play the doors with Kirk Clift there.
Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
I don't know much about mystery, but I know the
French and German don't like one another.
Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
And Rudy says, pulls you mister Hart and Stein have
a little bit of that left handed.
Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Dumb Yeah, she's cooking.
Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
I like Doris Bro, She's good to say anything. I
didn't say anything about Doris, but like, but.
Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
I'll well, are we really going to say that she
they Mark Jackson and Jeff and Gunna have been replaced
properly yet.
Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
No, I don't think so. They haven't the fire though.
Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
I'm sorry, but the Doris is cool, She's she's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Did we get it? Did we get a reason why
these are anymore?
Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
I think they just made too much money? He's budget bro.
Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
But between Mark Jackson's one liners like hand hand down,
man down and.
Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Jackson is why is Mark Jackson not a head coach
right now?
Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
It's so many because the Warriors blackball?
Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
But he got the Warriors who they are, Steve Curtin.
Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
So many coaches in the league, he's better than gonna
talk about that right now?
Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Isn't Mark Jackson?
Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
I think he got black boll? Why there was a
lot of stuff, bro, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
They said, a beoutind me his his like he had
problems with his assistant coach and the spying and like
all this espionage. I think it's something like that espionage espionage, Yo,
chat you could, I can't spend your chack.
Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Can y'all google him?
Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
Remind us because I remember like it was something like
internal stuff or like it was like a whole internal case,
and I think it was just a lot of ethical stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
I do remember Mark Jackson like being in like the
streets of late like preaching what preaching the gospel.
Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
He's he's a big preacher. They said, yeah, he was
on the corner of this. I never knew that he's a.
Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
Big preacher because I know that they they used to
do gospel and before they had the whole h Chapel,
you know, the whole what's the guy's name sterling they
all went to chapel like Warriors and the Clippers when
there in the middle of the playoff series before they.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
I do remember.
Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
I remember that now, So yeah, I think it's listen.
Mark Jackson is a flat out icon when it comes
to him. Instead him and Van Gundy and god, what's
the boy name? Great?
Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
People are saying my Breen is not the best teammates.
Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
No disrespect them three them three, them three are finals.
Goat is cool? He cool?
Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Mark accent yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
They're not them three though. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
I'm gonna say, is this that's the look. That's the
pure product. That's the pure product, and the product now
is stepped on.
Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
That's so you're not feeling this new ESPN. You're not
feeling the mark. It is stepped on the Morris twins
on you're not.
Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Feeling the I don't watch first take talking about just bro?
Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
What what?
Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Let me ask you this what what?
Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Sharp ahead? What top? Mama? There goes that man and
now man hand down man bang? Those those two bro
oh yeah, like you know what I'm saying, like, those
are those guys bro them three bro there their goats
in this kick out the ray Allen what the three bang?
Speaker 6 (01:22:48):
Like?
Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
Everyone knows that. Everyone knows that.
Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
All right, let's get to the next topic. So big,
we'll skip that.
Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Still live.
Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
It's doing the ESPN right on t T all right,
bringing I was.
Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Just give them their flowers today.
Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
It will be the last day of Inside the NB
on t N T another historical that's.
Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
They're gonna split up over and five. No, they can
still ESPN.
Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
But I think it's airing it on there. They're bringing
the ESPN. That's why I was just like, that's whatever.
But Cameron's talk about it, let's talk.
Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
I was just I was just giving them flowers. Give
the flowers.
Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
So there's no difference. It's just changing from tn T
to ESPN. Yeah, the same ship.
Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
The field are talking about what I feel is going.
Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Bro, it might be a little and would with this
if the Yeah, if the guys are still staying together.
Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
But we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
It's gonna be a little different. It's gonna be a
little different, different, boss different. No, I think they have
full creative control.
Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
I think that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
They have full created I know that they just bringing
it to the ESPN.
Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Okay, my father the same ship.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
My fault.
Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
I could be wrong, but that's what I read correctly.
Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
That was reported.
Speaker 5 (01:23:53):
I don't know what's official, so just everybody knows thanks
to the car, he said. Mark jackson time as head
coach for the Golden State Warriors was marked by an
incident where one of his assistants. Darren Irman was fired
for allegedly secretly recording team meetings without the knowledge of everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
So it was asked pionage in a way that is
crazy crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
But anyways, go ahead, cav So yeah, next topic, something
is something that I didn't even know about.
Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
The home brought to my attention that part of the
issue why Jordan Poole had to go also dealt with Clay.
Apparently he was uncomfortable with, you know, him feeling like
he should be the starter, even though it might have
been said publicly. The way Jordan Poole carried himself gave
Clay the idea that he felt like he should be
the start, and Clay felt like he earned that.
Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Let's get into the club.
Speaker 9 (01:24:38):
They say this like Steve is tough on young guys,
but they namely the young guy who they've gone through
and has not developed and they've moved on from who's
been a star ELP for like Jordan Poole.
Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Maybe, but that wasn't Steve. We know that wasn't Steve.
That was Draymond.
Speaker 10 (01:24:53):
Like that they had to move off with Jordan for
to with Draymond and Clay. And I've heard this more
and more that Clay was not comfortable with this guy
pushing him and pushing him push him. Clay thought, I
just I've earned this starting role. Why is this guy
keep saying that he should be the starter and not publicly?
Maybe it's so much as just in the way he
carried himself and that's fine for young player to but
(01:25:15):
but they couldn't keep that guy who got punched by drama,
not his fault, and who was putting making things tense
with with Clay.
Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
So that's Jordan.
Speaker 10 (01:25:24):
Whatever we think about words careers now, I wouldn't put
that on on Kurve.
Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Yeah, so that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (01:25:31):
So just everybody knows that's Tim callac me. He's a
beat writer and he's a pretty repel source.
Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
He's on that interviewed Steve Kerr when he says, I
mean I've messaged him on Twitter before. He's a he's
a very repeal source.
Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Like you know, he's one of the main more his
main beat writers.
Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
One of your peoples. You were saying that when you
were saying your peoples, whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
You say, why you always make.
Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
Yo yo, Somebody do not let Charlie in the building
if he has Goldfield bro what's up with that?
Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
But fucking Clay's sucking the man?
Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Why he can't coming off the bench over Jordan Poole?
Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Why you're comfortable about it? What were we talking about here? Bro?
Like Jordan Poole, I'm sorry, good player, but having him
around leadership? Uh, that that's what he thrived. Jordan Poole
goes to fucking Washington, becomes a man, and you see
(01:26:32):
how garbage Washington is.
Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Bonzo Beans like, come on.
Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Like Jordan Poole, like, I'm sorry, good player, but you're
not the star player. Shouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (01:26:43):
There's a couple of things like why is Clay uncomfortable
If you're Clay Thompson, play prove yourself on the court.
Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Do we know that for sure? What did you just
say he Clay don't got approved ship? What? Yeah? Like,
what do you mean what?
Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
You can just live off your name and live off
your plaist Laurels, you shoot thirty five percent and you
cool to stay in the trust.
Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
That just sounds complainingly, Klay Thompson's resume is impeccable, Bro,
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
So you're going to start him just because he's Klay
Thompson if he's playing like us.
Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Yeah, he got us whoever he got us to this
right now though, maybe pivot in the Honks point.
Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
If right now, if you the Wards, would you rather
have Clay right now? Or would you rather have Jordan Poole?
Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Okay, Klay Thompson, I don't care, Jordan crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Jordan Poole would do a lot for this team right now.
Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Jordan Poole at this current moment, you're taking you're taking
him on Clay Thompson.
Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
We're not talking about twenty eighteen, Clay Thompson were talking
about twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Klay Thompson, I still take CLAYT. Thompson, bro, I'm not
taking fucking Jordan Poole.
Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Feel who you're picking right now?
Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
I'm not picking Jordan Pool. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Why still looks so stressed thup answering this question.
Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
It's not that it's not that easy. I think the
question is it's respect. You don't if you're the Warriors
and they're both on the Warriors team, yes, you do
what you have to do. And Klay Thompson is starting
until he is gone. So when Clay Thompson leaves Jordan Poole,
(01:28:13):
you're next up. That's what it was about to happen,
but Draymond decided to sock this motherfucker. That's what happened.
Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
We get to a real reason why he got socked.
Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
You know, Yeah, I think Jordan Poole deserve to get
socked in this man thing, like, yeah, he deserves to
get caught.
Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Unfortunately I do.
Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Y'all really believe it doesn't matter how bad you play,
you deserve to start, no matter what.
Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
If you have a.
Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Grocious He was really bad that year, Clay.
Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
He was really bad his last year. Sometimes he was
really bad that he was unplayable a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
Actually, I think I think the only game you really
remember was his last game. And y'all forget what did
all throughout his career.
Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Don't forget.
Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
We're not talking about that, bro, but I'm talking about like, well, Stee,
what do Steve Curse say? He's like, it's my job
right now to win games.
Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
So let me ask you something.
Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
If if Clay go if Clay goes out, I'm willing
to start Clay to see if he's going or not
before I not give him a chance.
Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
At all and say we're not saying no play the nigga.
Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
But if so, why would you not give Clay. Clay
has earned the right to start. Clay. If you got
it tonight, you play.
Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
If you don't, you get less minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
I know, I agree, I agree with that, but I
just don't like the sentiment. And obviously you guys look
at so different because you guys are pro hoopers, which
is completely fair? Is that because my legacy, I automatically
start like, no, if you're not the best, if the
best starting five doesn't include you, then you play the
best five we're talking about, So you would.
Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
So so would you?
Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
So you would have sat Michael Jordan he played for
the Wizards.
Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
So the best player on the Wizards. Then I don't know,
maybe he's the second best player, but him and Rips started.
Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
So you're bringing Jordan off the bench? Are you starting
a forty one? Are you bringing Jordan off the bench?
If I had prime Jay, I need you to come
off the bench. If I had prime.
Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Anthony and I had forty year old Michael, yes, I'm
bringing I'm starting Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
See this is the thing with Clay Thompson.
Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
Going back to answer the question, if you have prime
Anthony Edwards and you have a forty year old Michael
Jordan who but.
Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Listen and basketball terms though, home, you would rather start
somebody older and somebody that you want to see do something.
You'd rather start them to have them come off the bench,
because what if you get off to a slow start. Right,
you just said you don't trust Clay Thompson. You're down fifteen,
and then you put in Klay Thompson.
Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
When Ai went to Detroit, what happened? You're you're gonna
have to come off the bench, right, have to play Ai? Right,
you have to play them because of his resume. You're
not bringing Ai off the bench. And what happened in
Detroit when that happened didn't work?
Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
All right? My point, it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
My point, it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
The niggas lost jobs over there.
Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
And going back to Clay though, real quick with the
whole close situation. Clay is the type of player that
he can he can get high at any moment. Right,
he can have a terrible game, but that motherfucking fourth
quarter come he can fucking score twenty. Then what happens?
Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
It just won't play again? Easy?
Speaker 5 (01:31:35):
Are we just gonnagree to disagree. Let's let's move on.
Let's move on to Cams Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Yeah, the MAVs punt guard sweepstakes. So do we think
that the MAVs can get their dream guy?
Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Pause?
Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Drew Holliday. Do you think they can make the money work?
That's the top of their list right now, it's Drew Holliday.
Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
If they can get Drew Holliday, that'll be fire. It
can make the money work. I don't know can they?
I mean, is do they even have money?
Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Not really? So I mean Holiday willing to take a
one year deal.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
From No, Drew's extend until twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Bro, he's kidding them.
Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
You got his bread, Drew. There's something, there's some offloading
that's going to have to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
If that happens, Damn, Yes, or Holidays or like a
three team trade or something can play together for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
But the money wise is not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Well, let's let's take a little because you basically have
three guys.
Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
But if you pay Gaffer, pay Gaffer with Drew makes
just swap them.
Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
Yeah, you guys know who they have on who they
have on the cap. You'd have to trade Clay Daniel
and PJ to make No, No, he's making thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
You don't have to trade either. Combination of Caleb, Nase
and Clay or Gafford probably make it work. But I
don't know if Boston wants that.
Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Yeah, they would want Gafford for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
Yeah, So I mean I think Gafford and Clay get
the job, or Gafford, Nausey and Jaden could get the
deal done contracts wise.
Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
I would if I was then i'ld go Gafford.
Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Caleb, see if you can get that done.
Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
But fuck the money aspect of it, right, Do you
guys think it's a good move. Let's actually just break
down the basketball side. Do you guys want to see it?
Because the money is whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
I think MAVs can go after Dennis Droder.
Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
Okay, we're not talking about Dennis. Do you like the
Drew move? Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
What I'm saying is no, I don't like it, thank you,
And it's me as my team.
Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
As my team with the guys who I know who
are available, I'd rather than get these other guys.
Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
You personally, money, the price for Drews.
Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Too long, is too much?
Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
It might not be because Boston needs unload some contracts.
That's all. That's it. But anyways, Precious, I feel do
you like the move.
Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
No, I would pay gaffort. I would go get Chris Paul.
Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
That's all the target that's the next the next, the
next part on. Let's get into cam target list.
Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Target number two is Linzo Ball and target number three
is Chris Paul, and it is I not a full
reputable source, so I don't want to like stamp it,
but I've heard that the spreads are ready to.
Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Move on from Chris Paul. So I think everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Ye, everybody knows yeah, But until I hear from report,
I'm gonna just be like, yeah, they're gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
So whichever price, whether it's Lonzo Ball, Chris Paul, but tongs,
who do you prefer on that on the Mavericks, It's
gonna come.
Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Down to the money thing.
Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Well, you think it's a better fit plays like play style.
Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Fucking Chris Paul. We're talking about, like, fuck, he's one
of the best fucking point guards ever.
Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
He's gonna be forty one.
Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
Yeah, Lonzo, but I prefer because you can play Kyrie
and Lonzo and you don't you're not missing size on
the court.
Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
You play because you're not You're not.
Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
You're your pick.
Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
If you bring Chris, you're bringing Chris to hold you
over for one year until I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Kyrie and Crystal fit on the floor together, though, right,
why not?
Speaker 6 (01:35:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
I mean the small as it so, I'm like Lonzo
can play with or without Kyrie. It's a great fit.
Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Well, Chris and could definitely play together, but Bill know
long Chris Ky doesn't. I would definitely prefer to be
off the ball. You see what I'm saying. First of all,
let's go. Let's go ahead and cut that little ship out.
You got Cooper Flag, Anthony Davis, and Daniel Gafford. Likely,
(01:35:40):
you don't give a how little you are. You got
a fucking twin towns in behind you. You don't got
to worry about nothing but size. Give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
You are fine on the back up. I can just
elevate over you if I'm an elite scorer. If you
want to shoot threes all day. But that's.
Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
But he gonna kill you cool, Yeah, I'll run you
off the spot. But we got trust me, we got
help behind us. Trust me. I'm not worried about that. Part.
I just like I said, it'll be just to hold
it over to gets back, But you just still need
another guard to uh to come help out.
Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
You got to say, Chris Paul fits better than a Lonzo.
Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
I just haven't seen Linzo play. So yeah, Dan, you're
just gonna lose faith and then with you, Oh yeah,
bring bring.
Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Spence back to be the starting point guard to hold
you over. I think he can do it.
Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
No, I'm saying, Chris, have Chris and been with the
until I gets back?
Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Well, then why not have Zone been with you? That's
the case.
Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
That's what I'm saying. It comes down to the money.
You get the cheaper one, bro, because you just need
somebody down because I think we like going out over ahead.
I didn't know what that was you finna say, I
just stick is you go off track record? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
If Chris got Biggs, he.
Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Historically does very well. Also sixty years old, bro, he's forty. Yeah.
Hey listen, if y'all want to go get Zoe, go
get Zo. I'm cool with it.
Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
I think they're both very good.
Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Yeah, I'm just going off what I knows.
Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Not the fact that it's an argument means that they're
both good. Choices.
Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
I think no, no, I see both perspectives. I'm just
going off one motherfucker just played eighty two and the
other one just played maybe fifteen.
Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
That's true statement he didn't play eighty two, but then
also concerns me can he do it again for the
next season.
Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
I just need him to give me to January exactly.
You just need somebody to get you the JA so he.
Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Can give He can give you fifty you get.
Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
Basically, he give me fifty and give me some good
playoff runs. I'm cool because there's to be some games
that he could I just think Chris is a better
game management manager and can control shit more than a
lot of point guards. You're just looking for what you need, bro,
that's all. You're looking for an insurance pot.
Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
But if you're gonna play with Cooper and Anthony Davis,
I mean, I guess you still need a player.
Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
I'm just saying, when we spoke about it earlier in
the year, you said, just give the ball to ant
I'm not a d and let him work like that's
gonna be your offense right in the playoffs. And you're
gonna give the ball to eighty and let him go
to work, right, So it's like, do you really need
Chris to do that? I mean, obviously Chris makes it easier,
but I think Lonzo can do the job.
Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
That's what I'm saying. I think they both can get
it done. You can't go go wrong with either. Like
I said, what one just has a record of doing
it at a higher, higher level.
Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
There's not been There's not been.
Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
One team other than this last team Chris has been
on that has been bad and they weren't even bad.
Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Win Big got hurt. Yeah, because of them. Hey, we
missed the playoffs last year. Just gonna put that out there.
That was because your boy, right.
Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
I didn't say it was Chris's fault. I'm just saying
we we missed. We missed the playoffs for Chris last year. Yeah,
but it wasn't because of his.
Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
No, No, I'm just saying, Okay, because he doesn't believe
y'all are believing in pots. All right, let's move on
go wrong with let's move that just makes me mad.
Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Let's give some flowers. I mean, let's give some flowers
out to Candice park Or. Her jersey has been retired
by the Chicago Sky. This is what do you say
about her legacy.
Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
But why is the jersey retired with the sky not
the spark.
Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
She got one, she got one chip. It's a Field model.
You get one chip, you get a statue one year one.
Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
Model model, not a statue.
Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
But she deserves a statue. Kwi does she does. I
didn't say that's that's the Field model.
Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
That's the the I don't think Hong is filling your model,
but I'm gonna let you. Uh, she definitely deserves a
jersey retired. She might decide she might need to get
her a statue too. I don't know if they do.
They do they do statues for I don't know that'd
be fire. They'll be first one.
Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
I'm just rolling with the Field model. You get a statue,
Lisa have one. No, No, lisak ne one though O
Tarassi neither one. CHAROSSI donna get one.
Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Gonna get one. Charassie will get one for sure. I
don't see why Chicago doesn't do it.
Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Yeah, yeah, Celesi is planned to have a statue. Yeah, okay, okay,
there will be. I mean this is the first one ever.
This was supported in twenty nineteen, so actually it might
not be happening.
Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Bro, So how many how many championships this candas have
with LA one one.
Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
But one of the most epic ones. She took down
the Links dynasty.
Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
Yeah, that year, one of the most she was She
was with LA for a minute though, since two thousand
and eight. I think she left in twenty that that
that Chicago Sky year, so she was there for like
twelve years.
Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Yeah, she was tough.
Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Because if Lisa get one, Candis might have to get one.
Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
Oh, for there's no women's statue, right, I.
Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Don't know there is I think believe, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
I just need to change that.
Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
It should be least Leslie. I would think you would
have one if that's the case. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Lastly, I mean you got Maya more.
Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
You got no Asian.
Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
I mean Asian Wilson has one outside of her college.
Oh for real, she has one out. Yeah, Asian Wilson
got one to South Carolina. I know that for a fact,
that Asian got one in South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Really. Yeah, Asia golded brod she was Caitlin Clark and
I have statues everywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
You better retire in every goddamn w NBA arena. Bro
for what she's doing for the league. We talked about
the last year, Billy, she she might be the m J.
Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
We said that last time she was.
Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
The MJ's jersey is retired in Miami.
Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
I know that Ky ray rally some respect. W they
probably need to retire caitl That glazing a little bit.
What jo jersey retired team you never played for? No,
I don't think so, let's respect, okay.
Speaker 5 (01:41:54):
I mean it depends, right, like if they were retired,
if they retired some Joe Smo's jersey, whatever, But it's
m J.
Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
He changed the whole game. They do that for Bron.
Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
They didn't touch the changed the whole game and didn't
change a game talking about Bron, Oh, what was gonna say?
Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
I don't know if Bron changed the whole game. No,
he didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
He's just he's just one of the goats. He is.
If there's no m J, I don't know who the
NBA is at today.
Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
He's one that really made it.
Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
I mean, but if if Bron didn't come right after, yeah,
he's right to That's what I'm saying, Like because the
transition was so smooth that no one gives him that credit.
Speaker 5 (01:42:31):
Kobe would have let us off the twenty twenty sixteen.
So Steph Curry was around James Harden.
Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
I'm just saying, I don't know if it had Kobe
would still if it wasn't for Lebron. There's no Lebron.
Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Kobe with the nine first Bron with the nine straight finals,
but what the eight?
Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
But yeah, but he went to tea, he went to finals,
he went to t How do you go to ten
trad finals?
Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
He didn't go.
Speaker 5 (01:42:57):
It was eight in two in two thousand and nine,
who was in the finals. It was Orlando, and it
was LA in two thousand and nine, twenty ten, it
was Boston in l A. Then ten eleven, it was
Miami and Dallas and ten and then he went till
twenty eighteen with Golden State and then there was Golden
State in the raptors in twenty You're right, it was eight.
Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
It was it.
Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
He's been a ten total. Would argue we're hong on stats.
Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
Bro sometimes if I know, I know, but yo, I
had to put Charlie and the New Yorkers in their place,
But we won't talk about that.
Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
I'm just joking.
Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
I'm joking, talking shit and talk shit.
Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
This is why you get the slander and all the ship.
Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
They were trying to go off about how Toronto isn't
the most multicultural sitting in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Yeah, and they had they all googled it and they said,
I'm gonna shut the fuck up. Yeah, yeah know this ship.
Speaker 5 (01:43:47):
Anyways, let's keep it. Let's keep it moving because, uh,
the people want to hear some new stuff. So should
we touch cam break let's talk about it. So she
had some comments on the roster sides of the w
Let's wrote a clip.
Speaker 6 (01:43:59):
It's son for that rosters can only hold twelve. Personally,
I think roster sizes need to be expanded before we
add any more expansion teams, because it's kind of crazy.
Twelve twelve people for a.
Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Roster is like I do it.
Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
I don't disagree with her.
Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
Why twelve, because she also said she believed that they
should do that before they have more expansion teams.
Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
He's She's right, Oh are you looking at that?
Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Why are you looking like I'm looking at you. I'm
just thinking you need some gold fuel.
Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
You need some gold.
Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Y'all. Don't want to see you on the gold field.
He's right, y'all don't want to see more dob ball
co work.
Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
She's right, though.
Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Someone sail like Draymond and Jordan Poole.
Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
Keeping with me, fucking with me, you on, I'm waiting
for you to say some off the walls here, bing
bing is coming, big bing two peach anyway, My, we
don't come thrown violence here onto the Baja.
Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
Anyways, Hey, hold up, before we do that. Should we
have it to the Baja after dark? Let us know,
there'll have some drinks. Charlie go, Charlie gonna host us
at the crib.
Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
I will host it at the crib.
Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Let us know if y'all down for to the Baja
after dark, and I will tell all the stories all
the dark.
Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
You see what I'm saying, Getting to the Baja, I
will talk about So second, my highest let the story.
Can I get the bike for a second.
Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
I'm just so.
Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
There's a time where I score forty eight points against Milwaukee.
But that night, before that night, I was in the streets.
And this is one way I can talk about what
I was doing and all that. But that comes after
dark though that if you guys want to see to
the behinf the dark, I'll finish the story.
Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
Were you in the streets in Milwaukee?
Speaker 6 (01:45:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
You?
Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
I was in the streets in Milwaukee. Yeah, you dropped
it on the road, right.
Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Yeah, but the night before I think we had a
game against Cleveland and that was out and that was out.
Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
And yeah, we can talk about that. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
But anyways, Hey man, you're not gonna answer the question
with Cavion Brinks.
Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
I don't agree. Why Why?
Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
Because I don't agree. I think you just do expansion.
I want I'd rather see expansion with more teams to
hold more players. I think that the more places we
get the w NBA, the more basketball arenas we're in,
the faster league will grow. I think adding a roster
spot or two and spending that actual money for teams
that already obviously the whole financially doesn't make a sense.
(01:46:45):
It's adding more teams to build the league. That would
be my opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
But I do think they should have more roster spots
four players, just not in that way.
Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
I think about it like this, If three players get hurt,
you're down to nine people on your team.
Speaker 5 (01:46:57):
That's That's not how it works in the w You
get exceptions because your rosters are so small, you get exception.
Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
What do you mean sign players you can sign.
Speaker 5 (01:47:04):
Players because like you know, bet nyjer got injured at Unrivaled,
the Liberty got exception off of a contract.
Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
So I'm just saying, during the season, three players get hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Yeah, you can get exceptions because the ross is so small.
Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
So then but why if if you can get exceptions,
then why not just add fu Yeah what the three players?
I like, you know what I'm saying, Like, if you
can do that, like, why not just add more? No? No,
But that's like that's like what makes no sense to me,
is like that happens all the time. That's going to happen.
People are going to get hurt. People got hurt in
the preseason. You got all these exceptions. Bullshit, just add
(01:47:41):
fifteen players. Yeah, what's the I'm like some keeps. First
of all, we still trying to We're still trying to
get butts in the seats and the teams we got, Now,
why let's just add more players so we don't they
don't these teams don't have to go find someone for
expand for exceptions and all this ship. Like yep, let's
(01:48:03):
just do what we have to do now, Like I
get it. We just expanded we got because the Toronto
team coming right.
Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
Yeah, coming and then the Golden State, the Golden State
team to.
Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
Go to state just happened. So I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
We're good the way you start there, I'm still we're good. Yeah,
we're good. With the expansion, I agree with her. I
think they should add more players and that just gives
more opportunities and it's just good for the game.
Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Man Field, seven to eight people played bro so like,
if there's twelve, four of them aren't playing.
Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
So if two get injured, I'm gonnaell you. I'm gonna
tell you which I'm not. You can't talk to me
like that because I was the last nigga on the bench.
That's what I want, more roster spots. That's why would
you want more roster spots? Because you say people have
an opportunity. What do you mean? I get what you said.
Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
I don't agree with it.
Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
By what he's saying is if two people get paying
people to not play basics, So why.
Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Would I would want to get right? But that's what
I'm saying though, But he said, I don't know what
then can afford to do that in w B A can't.
Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
But then this is the stupid part. This is that
makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Now, let's more team, Let's have a whole nother Franchise's thing.
Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
The overhead on that is going to be they're going
to be bleeding money for a decade or yes, because
they understand that's to grow the league.
Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
I don't know if roster spots are necessary in mind
to grow the league, Like if you add another team theoretically,
and where's the market that needs needs a team in Houston,
that's another market that needs a w n B A
team rather than spend on extra players, That's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
I'd rather we need to really we need to really
pay attention to this. We need to pump the brakes
on all the fucking expansions in the first place. Did
y'all see what happened when Kaylen Clark got hurt?
Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
Oh yeah I saw that.
Speaker 4 (01:49:59):
For yeah, that's insane. We might need to pump the breaks.
Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
You wake to June ju get wait to.
Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
But But back to my point though, guys, is that
if there's only five players playing, and only eight players
really play.
Speaker 5 (01:50:16):
Why do we need fifteen on the roster. If two
get injured, the other two get a chance to play.
Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
That's my whole you know, what's crazy and practice? You
could if three players are hurt, you can you can't
play five on five? Don't you even scimmage? They got?
They got? Dudes.
Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
I know that, I know that you're fucking practice player.
Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
No, im not.
Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
I can't play bro.
Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
Okay, you used to go to the bar in high school.
Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
I used to do that was freaking twenty years ago, almost.
Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Thirty thirty three, this year thirty three.
Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
You're still young.
Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
Okay, anyways, go who so you can't hoop with them?
You'll get that.
Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
I can definitely.
Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
You get cooked get Anyways.
Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Anyways, next topic, y'all, uh.
Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
That might be the next topics.
Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
Playing the w n B a.
Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Crazy?
Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
Can you be a practice player in the w.
Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
BE? A w n B A practice over over under,
over under? He can get five points on the w bround.
Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
By the way that people do want to see the
to the behinf the dark just playing it out there.
Hey man, I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
I'm with it to the bell half the dark. Let's
get us a Charlie's crib some drinks. He if I
don't cancel us, ask for it your word, don't cancel.
That's a good lawyer on that that one.
Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
You know you're playing tonight, right, Yes, sir Kurt says,
you're going for forty tonight, you doing.
Speaker 4 (01:51:54):
I need forty peal, we need forty.
Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
If you don't get forty, legacy, we need a legacy,
am Bro.
Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
I need a legacy game from deal.
Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
Brom because I know he's capable of Yo, my boy.
My boy had a triple double in his last game.
He don't need no legacy game. In Puerto Rico. What
we doing last Yeah? We talking about with no turnovers.
Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Listen, everybody was impressed about Tyre's Halliburn ship with no
turnover making the funk out of here.
Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
I did that ship before, but my whole point talk
ship got a legacy game and got Caliburn at home
in the Rico.
Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
It's good, Bump, Here's good.
Speaker 5 (01:52:41):
I'm saying you don't need a legacy game in the Rico.
You stamp anyways about.
Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
To give me a girl, get pregame mail and say
Kelsey Plumb will have a field day with home.
Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
I was some man appropriate.
Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
I'm not gonna talk guys. She cook you bro, I'm
not gonna talk you. I'm not gonna talk.
Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
She's a lefty to now you don't want to talk.
I don't want to talk.
Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
You don't want to talk.
Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Bluss your ass, I don't want to talk.
Speaker 4 (01:53:13):
CB, You'll get cooked?
Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Who him? He's asking? Would you get cooked?
Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
She could cook me anytime I say.
Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
Let me, let me, let me get an l A
sparks roster spot stop this bro.
Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
All right, that's it yo, y'all got he last started
right now?
Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Any time?
Speaker 5 (01:53:42):
Y'all got any thoughts before? Hey, guys, we're gonna start
off in two minutes. Put put your questions in the
chat asap. If y'all have any questions. Y'all got any
thoughts before we sign up?
Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
Oh us.
Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Twice I'm like, okay, y'all got any last thoughts?
Speaker 10 (01:54:06):
This is I.
Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
Yeah, I thought he talked to the chat. I was like, yeah,
I appreciate, appreciate the new day and age, appreciate these
young fellas coming along in the n B B A,
and enjoy good basketball.
Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
I think tonight's gonna be good basketball. Whoever, okay see
plays this next series, which we all believe it is
gonna be Indiana, It's gonna be a very good series,
and I think it's gonna be a jump start to
the next uh point in the league. I don't think
we'll ever see bron kd unless kdie go to the Maps.
I think that'll be something that will be very to
(01:54:44):
the finals again, I think I don't think we ever
see them guys in the finals again. I think this
is a new day and age, and I think the
young fellas don't give a fuck and they like Yeah,
I think they want straight smoke.
Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
So it's good for the league.
Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Oh ship, I forgot bron got Luca, so I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
They get a good bignest for it. Yeah, you guys
have the Pacers getting blown out tonight or the close game.
Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
I think it's closed, not blown out.
Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
The win.
Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Yeah, I think there's no blowouts. I think I think.
I think it's a twenty point dub tonight. I think
New York gonna come up.
Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
Actually, actually I need the I need the Pacers to win.
Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Oh before we actually sign out, though, because we have
no questions to chat.
Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
You pick out your car yet, bro, Yeah, that's how
I was going to put you mother fuck up. You
cut me off, you take the head, so cut his
mic call, give me a mic, goddamn it. Uh Yeah,
So I need a paces to win because me and
the wife have a bet going on, and that bet
is if the Pacers win, uh win this series, I
(01:55:46):
get a car and vice versa. Any cardo, any car.
We can pick any car.
Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
What you're picking.
Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
I'm going big, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
You drop the AO like he would. Hey, Yo, it's
a good point. I don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
I mean they haven't technically won yet, so I can't
you know.
Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Get couch couch chickens.
Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
Before that, can't camp the chickens before you?
Speaker 5 (01:56:11):
All right, chat, send us, Send us what Charlie should
get in the chat what y'all think? And it's any car,
and it's any car, it's any whip because you got
it like, hey, hey, but this is the most important
thing right here. People tell your mama, your sister, your brother,
your daddy, your mam.
Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
I don't give it down who you tell?
Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
Tell that about. We are moving to the to the
Baja channel. Get off my ship, y'all fucking up my
algorithm all right? Where we're going to see where we're
gonna be on too the Baja next week. We appreciate
the love, man, it's been one hell of a show.
Shout out to the OKC Thunder getting that dub getting
(01:56:53):
to the finals. Y'all have proved us wrong and y'all
are doing your thing, and uh.
Speaker 5 (01:56:59):
I need afford it Eastern and don't get a forty piece.
He showed up with a clown outfro bro his.
Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
Next Okay, hell now I got y'all.
Speaker 4 (01:57:13):
I'm gonna see what I can do.
Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
You need one before you leave the rico.
Speaker 8 (01:57:16):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
If you don't come back with a before you leave
the rico, you gotta wear a frow or something.
Speaker 8 (01:57:22):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Something we got I do that, I do that, then.
Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
I do that, all right, have a good day. Give
you piece piece
Ready party people. We were back with another live stream
of to the Baja.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, this is a rough, rough start.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We're good. We're good. You'll can hear it? Ye? Yeah, yeah,
I know we got we got my brother what do
you say?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I don't know, but anyways, we got my brother t
P and the Rico okay, and we got c V
in the building.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes we got.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, you dropped another twenty piece.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
But did he get to Doe?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yo?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Why y'all roast him that quickly?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
You get to let me introduce you here?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Yeah, everybody knows me as a as annoying producer. We're good, bro,
we don't need to introduce me.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What's up Dre? Dre's in the chat already.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Guy, Yo, Hey THEO. I'm gonna need you to go
get forty games? No, we gotta we got a big
We got a big game tonight. That say is gonna
be rockets, So I gotta put on show. You gotta
put the twenty is not enough enough? Second is not enough? Said? Job?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Ready for this? Where? Okay? Ce slash n y c
ray at, I.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
See check getting that while he's not here, colluding while
he's not here on all honestly, do you guys think
he's on both payrolls? Yes, somehow, some way, Yeah, he
is on the cover. He's colluding for sure. What do
you think on both pails? One thousand percent?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like, I mean, he don't really hide it either, That's
what I'm saying, Like, you don't really.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Could you imagine how fucked he would have been if
they both made the finals? I know.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
She would have to be this silence, that was what
it was saying.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Bro, So you're saying that the next that. What I'm
hearing is the Nixon is not gonna make it. That's
what I'm hearing.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We're gonna get to We're gonna get to the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
We can get to the I mean, we can get
it to the well to ask to ask what we
with this last?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
How is it? Ao?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's already.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm just so used to it.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Charlie, Charlie repping for New York today, But he's gonna
talk some ship to No.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I always New York. You always got a New York
had on.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I expect it, always, bro, New York, he always got
a New York cat on, just not the nick.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, look, let's let's let's give flowers though to
uh to the payroll payroll payers of Ray.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Hey, but shout out to shout to Ray Bro. We
miss Ray on today's We'll get him back next be
in the flash and then hang the hold up, Charlie, Bro,
they ain't paying us.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I know you love it, but they ain't paying us.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
This is good.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I know I'm trying to turn out the goat field.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm trying to turn out.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Hey, Charlie. Charlie.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Charlie turned up on Memorial Day. That was a little
what do you want to call his hangover?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Game is flu game show?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
But no, first, I mean first, I just want to
say shout out to Ray. We're happy to have him back.
We might have Tyler back as well. Yeah, when we
might have back, we might have a full house. I'll
be back behind the mic and the producer until when
I set up. You know, we might have tie back,
so we'll see what happens. I go ahead, can take it,
take it away, Okay, shout out.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Okay, see for advanced to their first finals since twenty twelve.
You know what I'm saying, Shaye got what's your Conference
finals MVP album?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Why we ain't playing the highlights though? Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Because it was bailt to ask, you do I want
to see that? Nobody wants they see that. Look, look,
we haven't got no highlight was I stopped watching after
the first quarter. They shot three of twenty the first
quarter and Neyly had nine points.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Bro. Like, I was like, Bro, these niggas ready to
go get ready to go home? Bro.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So like the first the first five minutes was the game. Uh,
Jada McDaniel's had three great looks open corner threes and
they all just didn't go down. And if you go
back and look at the first quarter when Jada McDaniel's
missed that last three in the corner, everyone's head just
went down and it just went completely downhill from there.
(04:05):
I mean they were they were just fucking deflated, Bro,
they were deflated.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I mean it was nat you know, yah, we roasted
what's his name, Max Struce, but like it felt like
they didn't like there's no point in coming back for
game five.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, they knew it.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
So it's like that was the whole thing behind Max
Drews's message. And you know, obviously who said in twenty sixteen,
was it Brown or was it pheel Handy or was
it Kui? When the cows are down three to one.
Someone said it on that I think it was. But
that's all I'm saying is like that Minnesota team looks
so defeated.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
They body language was terrib I do think it was bron.
They knew from the jump the first five minutes of
the game.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
They knew it was.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
They didn't have it.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
They knew they shit, they didn't have it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And it was just weird because I didn't expect that that.
I didn't expect them to win either, low key, but
I didn't expect them to go out like that.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But that tells you how good Denver was. True that
the games took him to seven and beat him in OKC,
which is very impressive.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I show both this right, and I think it's a
great conversation. Is all three of you guys?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Is it was?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
It just like Minnesota just wasn't ready for the moment.
More than their actual basketball play.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I don't know, they went They went balls to the
wall in that game four they lost. That That was
we talked about this before. When you lose a game
that you play your very best. That was the very
best Minnesota could play, barring uh and not having all
the points and scoring all the points or whatever. He
(05:42):
still played good basket. In my opinion, he played really
well Game four. He didn't force anything. His other guys
were making shots boom and boom. They knew there was
not a very high chance to them playing that well
again that very next game. So once that didn't happen
(06:04):
the first five minutes, oh, they were like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
We are cooked? Like they were cooked.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You said that the body language is awful. Dal Let
me ask you this question, though, uh is Minnesota? Was
Minnesota that bad?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay? See?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Really that good? Minnesota is that bad? There was just
no fight I think it was no okay, now let
me okay, see it's gonna win a championship. They're gonna
win the championship. But I think Minnesota was that bad
last night as far as like there was no fight back,
(06:45):
there was no. I mean, it was just turnover, turnover
and misshot, misshot and listen, when you don't got no
game pressure, you're gonna look good. Yeah. How much of
a serial game.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Pressure do you all pull on that as a leader
of the team or jew.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well, the question is is you know you got to
have a batman and Robin is.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Jew, Yeah for sure. Yeah, up until this, I don't
know Fam. Up until the series, I don't know you
said Fam. That's a New York turn too, Yes York. Okay,
that's Toronto link up? All right, you know that's all.
I don't say that.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I'm just saying that's not how we all sound.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I don't know if so let's have that conversation after,
let's have is that not on your best players? Because like,
you know, would you see Bronze team going like this
really in his prime?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Would you see.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Steps team like I feel like like that's on Jew,
whoever you want to call it, is the leader of
the team. Like they just kind of just bowed out
like suckers. I hate to say it that way.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
The moment, I'm gonna be honest. I think it's just
more of like the psychological factor of that is very real.
But the same time, you don't want to go out
like that. But I would say this, if they had
a better first quarter, that game is completely different. They
didn't make shots. They did not make shots whatsoever. I mean,
(08:14):
if you make a couple more shots, like, let's be
on how many points? Okay, she scored in the first quarter.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Wasn't like forty thirty something thirty plus.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I don't know if it's I don't know if it
was anything crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It was just hot twenty. I think they were twenty.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I remember because I told you I left half halfway
through the first quarter. Last time I stopped watching.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
They scored.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
They scored twenty six points. Yeah, they scored twenty six
points the first half. I turned it off early in
the first quarter. The first quarter was twenty six to nine.
That's not like twenty six points is not a lot
of points. Ye say, it is not a test. But
they they made no shots.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
But look they made zero to have time. They were
down by thirty three. They had more turnovers than field goals.
Made that fourteen turnovers and twelve field goals. We're not
gonna win that game.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
You're not gonna be.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Remotely close to winning the game. But back to the thing,
is is that on and you like.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You, that's on the whole squad, that's on no one,
no one.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
He's got to put a battery in your back, bro,
Like when your best player quits, who really gonna play hard?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, I'm honest, and was going I mean he was
fucking trying, but I think everybody else didn't really give
him ship. Think about it, like you're go ahead, no dude,
you got it, you got it? No, no, oh, if
you're you're three and one, right, I mean, you really
got to prepare yourself for that moment, Like you just
(09:44):
can't get ready for that moment. You gotta play, you
gotta win, you.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Gotta know, like you know what time it is, your
backs against the wall, Your back is against the wall.
It's time to show up.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
But you're going one, two, three.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Getting thirty piece at halftime of an elimination game is like,
it's crazy, No one should have He's right to motivate you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It was like, you know, do you want to go
home or not?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
If you need motivation at this.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Point, maybe Anthony, it was just like the fish bro cool,
I'm cool.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Listen. Sometimes it's just a better team, bro, I said, do.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Y'all generally think they were a better team? Like talent talent?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Okay, see, okay, okay, okay, See it's the best team
in the league. They proved it all year and they
proved it right now. I think this is a good
segue for me to publicly apologize to Okay see, Okay, see,
I ain't gonna lie. I wasn't a believer. I wasn't convinced.
But this playoff series is playoff run. I'm convinced, Bro,
(10:46):
you gotta give Shay the real deal.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Just as a team, collectively, they got it all. I mean,
they got Shay as the m v P, they got
the defenders, they got They just a well complimented team.
Man chemistry is on point two. They seem like they
get a long on and off the court. That's a
perfect team. If I was still around playing, I would
(11:12):
want to be on that team.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Do you guys agree with what I said before the
stream started? I don't need the chat coming from my
head this morning.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Go ahead and say what you said.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'll say it.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
So chat dra Kai, Kevin Althom and the car Burn
all our regulars. I said that this team is very
reminiscent of the twenty fifteen Warriors in terms of, like
they're young. They lost in the earlier rounds, but they
really get along. They got a superstar, play good basketball.
A lot of people doubt of them just because they're young.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
So that was kind of you're one, You're one, thousand percent. Right, Hey, yeah,
the league, the league got the validation, my boy, league,
the league.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Is in fucking sham.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
For a long time, for a long if. Yes, if
these guys, I'm telling you like this, if these guys
think like Jaln Brunston is thinking league's in trouble, but.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I would say this to you guys, right, the league
was only really in trouble because they got KD. Like,
I think there are teams that still can compete with them.
I don't think it's just like they're gonna be super dominant,
but they think they had that confidence to No, for sure,
I think they'll be the best they'll be. I mean,
if the Celtics stay together, I think the Celtics are
won't a formal anyway, we don't know yet, but I'm saying,
if we if with the Celtics bring back this roster,
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there's still a formal match.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Do you guys agree with that? Yeah? Yeah, something. The
Celtics are going to be good.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
They're well coached, they've been there, they have confidence, they
have been battle tested.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But ship definitely if they get this one. But the
Celtics are battle tested too, That's.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
What I'm saying it's gonna be a good it's gonna
be a good matchup. So I'm just saying it's not
gonna be as dominant.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's just the Warriors got Kdi.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
But I'm just saying no way, because everybody said Lebron
and Kyrie figured out the Warriors in twenty sixteen finals.
So if they never got Kdi, we probably don't run
off another two chips. So like that's all I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Saying, You're still gonna have to improve, yeah, if cause
teams are going to improve to come get at you,
I know, so, so we'll see.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But as we talked about, Okay, so you don't have
the money either in a couple of years. In a
couple of years. You got a couple of years though,
but they got it. I mean, let's actually look at
the numbers. Who gonna make them?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And I'm not saying this, I'm not saying it's biased,
but the MAVs would have to make some moves to
try to get to get at them too, and MAVs
typically is only going to get better.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
So Caseon is a free agent actually no, sorry, Caseon
has a team option. He's getting is good, so he's
coming back. Chat is on a team option next year,
so they got at least till next year. They got
at least next year where they contain most of the roster,
so they'll they'll all be primed for a repeat.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I mean, that's a the Pacers already.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's just tough right now because at the end of
the day, the way the new CBA is, it's hard
to keep talent like this on the same team because
everyone deserves to get paid, you know what I'm saying.
So like check j doub, they gotta get paid. So
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where's that money going? Everybody else can't be on the team.
The next person Caruso is making thirty million dollars. You're
not gonna let lou Dort go. You're gonna let lou
Dort go dpoy level player if this if when look
what's the what's lou Dort's contract?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Huh he got paid recently, Lorteah, let me double chuck.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
He's slid seventeen a year.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
He's gonna break them. He's gonna break the bank.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
But but he don't have that option until twenty seven.
So if they have a team option on him in
twenty seven, so he got another two years while he's
locked up by the team.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
They got him on a slave deal.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
That's a crazy seventeen slave deal. Well, that's a that's
a market but slaves crazy the.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
NBA for his production, his production seventeen million, I said,
should give you could think lou Doort should give me
be paid less than Alex Caruso fifteen million dollars less.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Crusoe is not making thirty five, bro, what you do?
What you're talking about? CRUs was making like twenty something.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
No a year, He's making thirty.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
He's making He's not like thirty thirty making like twenty two.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'm coming back out of retirement. He's making thirbody's signing you, Charlie,
give me.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Six weeks, give me six weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Eighteen Mili making eighteen twenty twenty two on his contract.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Oh yeah, listen, he's making less.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
You know, as I said in the group cho I
was sick for Aaron E. Smith that he just resigned
last year. Boy, he would have got a bad sick
could go. He would have got twenty five to thirty.
You got the way he's playing. Yeah, But now that
they're secure for the next two years, guys, so they
can really make a run, continue making these runs.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's the league in trouble, Man League trouble.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
But let's just also be honest though, right, The hardest
thing to do is repeat that's what they say.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I mean because Boston, even we thought Boston he was
gonna do it easily.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, but the fact that okay, see is not losing anyone.
They're probably gonna get better. They're gonna add fucking.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
That's what they said in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And they got picks too. Can't forget that they're not
a shipload of picks.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And then at the end of the day, Charlie, you,
you and the know this best and you guys can
testify this. Eighty two games is a long season, right
from someone, No one can get injured. Eighty two games
plus another twenty five You want to do that two
years in a row?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
No talk that as well.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's tough.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I mean, it all depends on health too, right, they
gotta stay injury free. But I mean they're gonna be
the favorites, there's no but about it.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
So let's let's talk about this quickly, right, y'all were
big on getting your honest are you doing that?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
If you win. No, why not you weren't big. But
Ray and theore say.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know they bugging you're bugging.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
You?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Fuck it, you can't. You can't mess with this team. Man.
Like I think the camaraderie they have, the togetherness they have,
that's something I believe that you just don't touch. Agree
before I like I said, I think if Denver and
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this is where I'm kind of like it may say
I'm like backtracking to say the leagues in trouble. But
like I think before I thought Denver was gonna beat
them if they were healthy.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I did too, I really did.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
So they still have some room to improve. But if
they go in a championship, you can't touch that.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Maybe you know.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Okay, listen, we need to get better here here and here.
What can we do? Do we put Wiggins Carson Boom
boom to get like a Jordan Clarkson or like a
fucking you got to add something because I'm telling you
one thing. These other teams that you're gonna just keep
watching y'all do what y'all need to do. Everyone else
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is gonna get better. So they're going to need to
do something. Nothing drastic, though, but I think they need
to do something.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
So let me ask you guys this right, and I'm
just using it as an example. If you want in
twenty sixteen and Katie's on the market, no, bro alone, No,
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
To say something to you, just the same case. I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I'm trying to say something. What if you want in
twenty sixteen the Warriors, did you go sign Katie.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
In the off season to go back to the Warriors? No?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I'm talking about in twenty sixteen, if they won, they
didn't lose to the Cavs, do you go sign.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Case I'm saying that's the same case, though in a way, I'm.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Saying it depends because if you think your team can
get better, That's what I'm saying, do you go make
that move regardless of the result.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I don't think you do a because I don't know
as a player and as a competitor, do you go
to a team that just won a championship, especially if
you're a superstar, but then they lose the year.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Before they lost they lost in twenty sixteen. That's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I'm saying, if they want and Katie's on the market,
are you going to say the worst you don't touch it.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
No, you, I think if you, I think if you will.
But Kadi gotta want to go there too.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
But I'm saying you have to go after Giannis if
you think it will make your team better, is what
I'm saying to you. Guys like okay See has to
make the move to make your team better regardless of
the result.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
That's why. Why not if it makes your team better,
That's that's the that's the discusson.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I understand though, the team chemistry that okay See has,
you can't take that for granted. Bro, Like you put
Yannis on the team, that changes the dynamics. Now, now
it's not shade the guy because they know he's the guy.
But now like throwing Gianness in there, I think it
messes it up, mess up the chemistry a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Man, If there, who's the guy? No, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Going out there because you guys know NBA teams are
always it's a business, always looking at better.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
So I'm not saying that I'm asking you because that's
that's a real question. And I think that's where the
stry can get fucked up. If Jannis goes to ok See,
who's the guy exactly?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Who's the guy now?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Now you got to ask that questions still because so
you think Gianna is gonna play second fiddle.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So let me ask you this. Let me ask you
guys this.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Did Joannis have a problem taking the back seat to
Chris Middleton when he needs close games?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Who got him there? He got to the end?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Well though Joannis finished it off, But Chris Middleton was
a big reason why they got to that that game
six or he dropped fifty y'all did y'all forget that run?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
No? I didn't forget it. He was very important, but
he was never that guy.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
He guy to finish games. You never considered him as
Batman ever. No, but I'm saying he was a guy
to finish games. Though, isn't it gonna be the same thing?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I mean, I put that too because even Kyrie would
sometimes finished games, but no one thought he was number one.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
So it's like, why can't you both be one? A,
one B? Like I don't I don't get it, but
I mean we can move.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
On to be honest. I think I think Shane's numbers,
I think Shaye's numbers go down if Jannis go there,
that's okay.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He about to sign that four hundred million dollar bag.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Anyways, and he signed that, he signed that, he definitely
putting the motherfuckers in the hole. Yeah, he sure is.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, seventy six million dollars a year. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Shit, you're not gonna sign an I think for a
Litlegiti program.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I'm with six weeks, he's gonna be a sign fit. Y.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Hey, hey, hey, Stevie, are you are you signing it? No?
Because that put like like you said, that puts a
hole on the team and they and I.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Don't think I am either.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, because that will hold back from them getting better
or signing anyone else, or giving money to anyone else,
or keeping that team together. Superstars usually take somewhat of
a pay cut, to be honest. Taylon Brunson has done
itrk Nevinsky has done it. Lebron has done it. A
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d has done it. There's some guys that do it.
So I think to keep that team together.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
How much of a pay cut is the real question.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
What's the difference between seventy six and sixty six? Don't
say ten.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Million, about about five.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
It's not that it's not that big of a defer.
What can you do with sixty six that you can't
do with seventy six.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You do same ship, Charlie.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You can make it facts exactly, five million dollars is
still five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It is, but at that point, when you hit a
certain range, it's not that bit.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
What goal is.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Let's keep it a stack. We talked about on the
last show. You said, I don't give a dam if
it was two fifty one million, eight million.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
It's still a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
It is a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So you you leaving five to six million dollars off
the table.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
To go sign somebody else. Yep, I would twenty five
one hundred.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
But let's not act like five five million dollars liquid.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It's just like no, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money,
but you gotta think long term. I'll do that. I'll
take a pay cut to sign somebody else.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I agree with you, guys.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I tell you if if, if it came down to it,
Chase twenty five, if he really wanted to play that long,
he could get two more.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Contracts exactly, he can get four a three more.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Think about it.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
His next one will end when he's thirty one. Then
thirty six. He can get three contracts religious three or
four more. Bro, he can play tell he's thirty thirty.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
He could do what Lebron does.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Sound like one year deals, two year deals.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Keeping Remember if y'all he's twenty six right now. His
contract ends next year, so he'll be thirty one thirty
two when his next one expires, then it'll be thirty
five thirty six and he'll sign one more. Realistically, he
has three contracts something.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Him, which is insane. It's insane. And that's why I say, listen, buddy,
if i'm him, I'm doing exactly what TV just saying.
I'm not taking the Super Super because, like he's can,
he can get as much money as he possibly wants.
You don't want MVP. You're gonna win the finals, You're
gonna do it. You can get as much as you want.
(23:54):
But you know, okay, so he's gonna go in there
be like, hey, look, you deserve it. We will have
happily pay it. Oh I don't know about happily, but
we will pay it. But if we do this, you
give us room to keep stacking these championships. Which one
do you want? And at the end of the day.
The whole goal is to win, and then if you win,
(24:15):
you're gonna get more money with endorsements, this, that, and
the third, so you're gonna make that money back up.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
But I mean talk about the difference between playing okay
seeing someone like New York though, Does that matter or
that Chase stature doesn't matter?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I think Listen, this man just gave all his teammates rolexes.
He care about his boys. Come, he care, He care
about his boys, so he gonna make sure his boys
eat too, So I can't see him taking the max max.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But like if they ask him, like, hey, would you
give Tim Meal to keep j dup? He gonna do
that shit without even and he Canadian too, so that
tech mail that twenty mel is really like thirty. Yeah,
y'all don't even have health care. Yeah you feel we
don't have health do have? Hell, we don't have we
don't have health care. I have in shambles, bro, His
(25:02):
money is not he's bro. Anyways, we ain't gona talk
about Canadian taxes and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Let's move by the way. Yeah you know about that.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
But your dollar goes a little bit longer over there.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
You're right, you're right right, I think the more Yeah,
and somebody said in a chat they can they can
have more money and they got hell of picks, so
they're in there.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Okay, season a good spot, bro spot. We already talked
about the shadey thing.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
You no, no, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So does it look better on shade he did that? Okay? Okay?
Did we talk about your your crazy take this morning?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
What crazy take? Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So does it not compete the same against I want
to word it right, compete the same against his peers
as he does the old guard, the old guard, the
old like he'd be getting the old niggas bout of here.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
He said.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
He looked like MJ in front against Braun Stephan them,
but against Luc Jaw he'd be looking destrey.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
He looks very human, He looks very human like.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
That's that's pretty validus not valid at all, really, I.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
He played well against He played well against Jaw in
his first playffic experiment. He played well against Luca cat
sold that series. Tell me when has he not played
against other than this series?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
He just had a bad series, that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
But see if hog didn't just I wanted to get
your first for home gave the numbers.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Think he gave me the numbers. Listen, listen, Bro, I
gotta understand. Okay, she defensively, they're the best team to
put on a flat out clinic. Clinic. They put out
a they put on a clinic, Bro. Because I'm watching
the games, I'm like, what do they do? They sit down?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I mean, everybody's guarding everybody and there's no weakness Alice Caruz.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
They ran a line up the other night with fucking
j Dubb and lou Dor at the five, and Caruso
was guarding the big Like, what the fuck carus the
player guarding Jokic? Come on, Bro, why could be the
best player in the world.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
While he was tackling that nigga? It still was impressive.
His take was garbage?
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Whose take?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
First of all, I got to Twitter. I got it
from Twitter. I was just asking the chat, That's all
I was doing. You just asked how.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
He wasn't you tried to make an argument with me today?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
All right, Bro?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
All right, list let's I say.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I say, I say he did not perform, Luca though
I did say that you did, and he did.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Luca performed. I mean he averaged twenty five, like nine
and eight that series, Like lucahead on forty four percent
were talking, isn't this Minnesota, second time losing in the
Western cor Yeah? They lost lst year.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
What do you go from there? What do you do next?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Katyiannis?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
What do you do next?
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Let's wait have this conversse because we had it in
our chat yesterday and everybody thought I was crazy for
going after your honest, but.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
This is what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
But who you're getting rid of? Bro?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Noah?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I mean I got to get rid of a shitload
of people for you, honest.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
I think you get rid of Jaden Jew and a
bunch of picks and you can get the job done
like that.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
But the thing is so this the limit is right now,
they can only keep really two of the three phrages
they have like Julius Random, Nasri and uh Alexander Walker.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You probably can't keep all three. No, you can keep No, No,
I ain't gonna be expensive. I'm saying you can keep
two of the three.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I say you can't keep all three of them.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Report just came out of that on that, like they
can't keep Kevin Lucas said, get Jew gone. I'm sorry, Ralph.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't think I'm getting Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
What's the package for him?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I don't think as much of a package. I think
if Kevin Durant says I want to go to Minnesota,
I think you're going to have to get up Jaden.
But are you willing to give up Jaden? I would
fucking Kevin Durant and Kevin you only getting KAD for
a year though, I mean you're getting you.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Get two years in the Minnesota. The son's need a.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Big so they either one nas or or uh what's
the big French French guy Rudy.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Could think his name for a second.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Hey is jayden Is Jaden and June not enough?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Straight up?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
No, No, you need some type of picks, some something
they a big man.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You need picks for Jaden McDaniels and Julius Randall. Not
enough for Kevin Durant. That's a good point. You think
you think you think k D is like, hey, I
want to go to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, I think he would play with he would, but
I think he'd rather go to San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think k would probably want to go to a big,
a bigger market Minnesota. What's the difference what's the difference
between Minnesota and San Antonio? When been Yama?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think Minnesota is a bigger market guys than Tan Antonio.
I don't think it's bigger. It's a bigger city.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
For sure, just cold as fuck up there.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
But but the tax rate be crazy Minnesota. But anyways,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I think I think rockets would if you want to go to
big market. I felt he go through the rocket.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
But okay, so let's let's let's get back to the topic.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
So y'all think you need to make a major move
yesterday our chat for if anybody knows a lot, like
add a couple of pieces. Where are y'all sitting make
a major move or a couple of pieces?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I think I think bring in some a couple of pieces.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
So what do you want to get get done?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
They're gonna need a point guard.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So you don't trust h Mike.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Mike Conley.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
This is this is last year, I think, Mike Conley.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I thank you for doing business.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
He's been eighteen years. Yea, he did a good job.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
He did career since two thousand and seven. I think
he was in the KD draft with Greg Go.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
He did.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
He had a great year.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
But all right, it's time to get yourself a point
guard and probably get yourself figure out.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We your number two is. I mean, I don't know
if Julius is the guy.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Why do you think that?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I like, I like Julius, great player, phenomenal he's gonna
with Tyler, but like, but why do you think that?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
No, he's a phenomenal player, phenomenal player, great player. But
I also think, yeah, he's been inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I mean just the series though before the series, he
was just a consistent player on the team.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Would you guys say he was the best player for
the first two series. Yeah, consistency wise, Yeah he was.
I mean, are we gonna credit okay, see or said
you was bad?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Which one?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I think a little bit about their whole team was bad.
It's like, no one actually had a good series.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
But you gotta think, Okay, see not going nowhere? Yeah, yeah, okay,
S's not going in.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, and teams are going to again going to start
building up to face them.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So it's not gonna get easier the West. This is
what the league is now. Everyone was everyone was gearing
up to beat Boston. Okay, Boston's done. They about to
break that bitch up next. Now it's okay. See they're
the new They're the new standard.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
How do we beat them?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Right? So, you can't just beat them with one guy.
You can't just beat them with two guys. You need
to have a great collective group. I think if you
got an Anthony Edwards Kevin Durant, you got a really good team.
If you can keep Evincenzo Ni kil Uh, great.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Corps man they do. They do great guard off the bench.
Obviously nos can be a starter on a lot of teams.
So I don't know. I think this team could get
it done.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I think they just have what's the definition of insanity,
doing the same shit over and over and expecting a
different results.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
So so let me ask you this.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
This is their first year with you, right, yeah, so
kick it back to both of you guys. They both
had really bad series. You didn't see if they actually
played well against this team, and they couldn't get the
job done.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So the only reason I'm not there it's because of money.
I think jew is gonna get paid more than not.
So I personally I love Julius in Phoenix, him and
Devin Booker Philip I feel like that would do really
well for him, but because then he can just be him.
Oh he's a free agent.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, he's not on the team right now. You need
to sign and trade. That's when they can go anywhere.
That's what I'm saying, Like they have to sign him
Nas and to kill.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You're gonna keep two to three.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Julius has a player option so for for next year,
so he's gonna be a he is a free agent.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, what's the player water. Julius has a player option
next year for how much money is how much?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Let me double check. It's like it's like thirty something,
get forty. It's thirty one.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
He could get forty.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But I think I don't.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Think Minnesota trades cat and thing without making sure they
lock up due.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
There's no way they do. Shouldn't do that. I think they.
I think they try to keep.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah, they keep jewles, they keep them.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
They keep keep, You keep Julius, you keep Nas keep.
Somebody asked in the check. Actually, sorry for the fish,
just topic my apologies.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I probably think Nas that I'm being I think I
think that is gone. Yeah, because I think he's been
Nas has been playing second fiddle his whole career. Probably
he probably like Okay, it's time for me. You start time, So.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Let me kick it to you, guys, Nas and every
pick you have, not every pick, but three two three
first round picks for KD.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
No, it's a great piece for you. Sign and trade
sign Phoenix. They need a big man. Why not?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
They need a big man, Rudy, Rudy. No, but let's
actually talk about I don't know how the numbers work.
We look at the numbers, but I'm saying you might
have to give it.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Why can Nas another player and then a bunch of
picks not getting done for Katie?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
But you weren't. You weren't saying the picks. If I
said the picks.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You need to send two to three picks to get that.
That's what I'm saying. I agree, What are you doing
the deal?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah, I'll do the deal.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Get drop my mind. You can't, He's like, you can't. Uh,
I don't think you can break up the core guys.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
This is part of that core, though, is he? He
makes them such a different team.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Know when I say the core, I mean the top
three players McDaniels, uh and Jewels. You don't get rid
of those three, so anybody else's so who else?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
You got to give up, yo, So do you do
you consider no part of the cortho he is, but he's.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
He's the fourth best player in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Ah, just gone he because like once you put it
in that perspective, yeah, he kind of he kind of
needs to be because like he could be a lot
of money.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
L A needs him. Okay, somebody, somebody will pay him,
for sure. You guys got anything else on the I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
There's something. There's some teams that definitely could use him.
I mean I can't think of one right now. I mean,
like I said, Phoenix's.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Lakers, Lakers, guys, every seal team in the league could
use he can he's a seventh Is he a footer
or is he six ten?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Same ship six eleven?
Speaker 5 (36:09):
He's six eleven, six ten. He could shoot the ball.
Every team in the league could use.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Him to put the ball on the floor.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Chat asked, I don't know if we want to talk
about it now, but who y'all picking this series? Healthy
Celtics or health or thunder.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Us?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
The thunder so much fucking thunder bro Thunder is fucking special.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I think I think Charlie on Peril.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Now it might be I talked to Ray, Yeah money
getting right Ship Thunder look good man, Well.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
That's tough.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
That is tough.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
But chat if y'all have any more questions, make sure
you guys let us know.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I think I think I'm gonna go healthy Thunder, healthy
thunder because just the better defense is the better defense.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It's similar.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
But no, bro, Ship, we just saw him do that
was that was an insane defense they were playing.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
It's it's the it's the thunder Year.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
It's yeah this year.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I always hate thunder Year dance. And were counting Now Indiana, Huh.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I think it's gonna be a serious I think Indiana
has a chance. No one believes me, but I feel
like indian has a chance. They're playing really fucking good.
They got a chance because it's they ain't play the
game yet. Wow, we had exactly all right, man.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
What happens? What happens when oka defense?
Speaker 5 (37:26):
No, But the thing is is that you guys said
all the time, Indiana is so unpredictable.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Anybody can go off. I don't think that.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
I think Indiana is a pretty I won't say a
good matchup, but I think that Indiana can still get
get points against them.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I don't know if it's a sagree.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I think it's gonna be a series because, like I
said before, no one plays fast like Indiana. Them dudes
fly up and down to the court, fly, ain't no
jogging back ain't and like you said, they're very unpredictable.
But I'm gonna be honest. I just don't see nobody
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being okay. See in okay? See why is that graphic
up right? I don't see nobody being okay seeing okay.
It's Rocky chat chat saying your camera is dirty, Bro,
wipe your camera.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Bro, This camera isn't dirty. It's just as the lighting
is pretty bad. That's all good.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
The lighting is rough. Hey, hey, who said it? I'll
give you a shout out Burton?
Speaker 5 (38:31):
But Burton's a hater though. Burn be talking a lot
of ship, But it's all good.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
We appreciate Burn.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
You burns here all the time. I appreciate Burn. He's
here all the time, but he a little bit of
a hater.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Appreciate you, big Burt, big big Hey, send us a
picture of you, big Burke. Let's see how that goes.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
We appreciate you Burn. You're always here, so shout out
to you guys.
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Speaker 2 (39:07):
Turn us up.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Last question before we get out of this topic. Was
this one of the most boring Western Conference Finals we've.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Seen a little bit?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, sir, an elimination game, bro, like for us all
across the world.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, we start watching after the first quarter, after the first.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
First half, other than Game four, was there a game
that was actually that entertaining.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Show?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
What it should have been the whole time? Game four?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
The Western Conference Finals should have been Denver and Okac.
That's yeah, that was exactly And if Denver was healthy,
I don't know, we'll be having this conversations about Okay,
we'll be talking about them.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
What do you mean if Denver is healthy, they don't
have any legs.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Bro, there wasn't healthy. Aaron Gordon Hamstream. They gave him
my man, fucking Murray was fucking the flu game the
whole Come on, I hear you, Michael Porter's shoulder finished, Hall.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
You know the chat be getting at you about you
talking to them.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Shut the fun up talk.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I shouldn't come back to you like that I'm blacked
out black.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
It's all love until the ball.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
But where where I'm disagreeing with you guys? Well specific
because you guys said that they were just too tired
because they didn't have enough players. They played seven players.
You said you hadn't say it was injuries.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
But they were hurt though they were hurt to the
guys that were playing, were playing hurt, that's what he said.
And Ship Westpur we found out Westbrook was playing hurt
the whole time.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
That's that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Did y'all see that boat.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
I don't know if it's I hope it's not bullshit,
but that Russell Westbrook is considered retirement.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That's why you're getting surgery.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And he said he's coming back up.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
But somebody said he a terrible repright, cool reput source.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I think I saw the represents that garbage, garbage source.
Hopefully if you if you, if you have to say
you're a reputable source, you're.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Not a rep you.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
No, that's that's funny. But yeah, we could be having
a different talk. But now let's get let's get.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
To the hand.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
I'm gonna ask the chat a chat. Just put in
the chat for everybody that's here. Does Denver win if
they were healthy?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Do y'all believe that? Let us know?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, let us know.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
And somebody said, damn home was gonna finish answer a
question or question. I don't know question you're talking about,
but throw the question in.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
That's one.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
That's one hell of name, mister Crabs. I'm assuming he's
a SpongeBob fan. That's all I can assume.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Appreciate you showing his love.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Man, all right, we'll go to We're going out to Indiana.
Man to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
That's sick work. Hey, hold Michael, Michael Jackson from Indiana.
Not too much?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Go okay, I mean you're the Indiana fan.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I thought you would. I didn't know where that was going.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So look, so look we had a Halliburn masterclass Last
Game thirty two, fifteen twelve, no turnovers, perfect games. Halliburton
actually transitioning into a superstar.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
It's up for debates in conversation. I don't think he's
there yet, No, just transcending. He's transient right right, He's
moving in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
And if if he do some damage to in this finals,
that's what I'm saying. He ain't gotta win.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
But take him six games, take him six games, hes
gonna put So can we define superstar?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Right?
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Do you guys, Field, Charlie and Cam, do you guys
think off the quarter is part of it? Because I
do believe that.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I think if you're you have to have package.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
We're not talking about a top five player in the
league on the basketball court. We're talking about when you
talk about a superstar, you talk about some of that
trend and sends a game that's larger than life.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
What are you asking he's saying, is he gonna be
a superstar?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Kawhi do? What does Kawhi do off the court?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
But he's a fun guy.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
But but I don't think most people are calling him
a superstar in terms of like the whole persona.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
He's he's a superstar player.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
I ain't gonna lie, bro, and and I'm gonna say
this and I mean this and not the most non
glazing way possible.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Anyways, Bro, let's feel go. It's fine. He thinks it's
only on the court. It's all good.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I mean, he got certain type of way.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
You can you can we can have the best okay
if we had an okay player on the court, but
he's the best guy off the court. Doesn't mean a
nigga is a superstar.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
But I say both of them play apart.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yes, they play a little bit apart. You can't be
a dickhead just fucking smacking people on the street and ship.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
But you don't need to be doing I don't.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
This is for me, and how I apologize. I'm not
trying to say that's your viewpoint. For me, I don't
give a fuck what you do off the court. I
want you to be a very responsible citizen, a good dude.
Other than that, I'm cool with you. Like, listen, let's
go and put it out there. James Harder be outside
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he's outside side exactly. I don't care. I don't care, right,
And he's still a super like he still is a superstar.
He puts on a show.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Every community services.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
I'm talking about, like do people want to if you
just flock you are you in commercials? I'm talking about
like that type of ship I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
So that's what I'm saying, But.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Like, but that's what But that's part of it. You
have to have marketable MASSI appeal.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Have you seen Tyres and have you seen Tyres in
a commercial? No?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Maxine, Yeah you are.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
No.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
No.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah, I'm saying he's going to be after this, After this, he's.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Going to be.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
He's going to I didn't say, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I'm going to say, this is the right word. Yes,
Tyrese Haliburton is on the way to being a superstars.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Look, I'm saying he's had and I don't mean the
same trajectory as far as like Team says, none of that.
He's having the same like transcending ship as Sha had
a few years ago. Look the nigga be you on
leaf face every day. Bleach Reports started making memes about him.
Like I said, he's starting to actually talk in the
press press conference, and we pay attention to what he's saying.
Now he's going to have he's only going to start
having commercials after this. I agree he gets a shoe deal,
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it's gonna be wrapped.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
Disagree with any of you guys. I'm just asking what
is your standard for a superstar.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
That's the fact that he did the choke sign that
makes him well.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I've seen several shirts already with that ship That's what
I'm saying, like it's getting to that point, it's gonna
get there.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm not saying it's there now. I'm just saying you
could get there, and it was on the way for sure.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
The way he's on the way. You got that on
the way. Smirk on your face. Bro, you don't believe
that's cool? Look you got that.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
That's what's happened.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Nothing, Bro, we're not moving on.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Hold on, let's stay on this topic real quick. How
do you make your money? Are you paying your money
to go? Nothing?
Speaker 5 (46:26):
It has nothing to do with ty Reese in the basketball.
I'm just all I'm saying, let's move on talking.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
About that ship.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Hey, all right, so let's get to his Robin Pascal Sia.
Is he the most underrated number two in the league. Yes,
So let's give the viewers some context. Justin Jackson, shout
out to j Jackson. Also shout out to Tony Bradley. Fellow,
run run your race alone. You wouldn't see champ. Shout
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out to Tony Brodley. He played some minutes ball, yeah,
and he was in the g last year, So shout
out to Tony. The context is that Jay Jackson. Is
he the best number two option in the league. That's
quote unquote not a superstar. So just all of our
viewers know what y'all think.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yes he is. Uh, you gotta remember him. He's been
here before. Yeah, you got a chick showed up and
showed up and he wasn't number two guy cooked Draymond
cooked him cry.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Chicken and that was still like prime Draymond too, that
was prime Draymond.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
So yes, I mean he's very super underrated. Uh, he's
a guy that you don't really give enough credit to.
But he's a big piece why Indiana is where they are.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Even. I mean, is he a number two?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah? He for sure?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Can I can I kind of put this in perspective,
And I don't know if I'm gonna get flocked for
this or not.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
No, boy, by now you're used to it. Brohoy, here
comes dropping.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Indiana.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
It is a very good basketball team here. Hear what
I'm saying that we actually.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah, they got they gotta they got a good basketball team.
It comes. I don't I don't know if anybody like
Tyrese is the the face, but who's really the star?
Who's really the star? Said? Because just think about this though,
because like tonight, nim Hart might go to funk off.
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We're not even talking about this series being what it
is right now. If n Smith didn't go off, it
wasn't Tyres, it wasn't Pascal. No, no, no, no no.
Smith won that game for sure, but won the game.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, he closed out some games?
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Is that not proven? What the fuck I'm saying?
Speaker 8 (49:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Game three?
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Game three?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Uh? The fucking guy McDonald's insane. You know, the guy
that wanted was what's my man named dominic? Uh? He
had twenty points in ten minutes? Bro, this guy? What
what do you mean? We talked about a perfect game,
literally had a perfect Are you.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Talking about Matthren math Man? Matt Throne off the bench?
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Ya?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Dominant?
Speaker 1 (49:31):
We go?
Speaker 2 (49:32):
How much you have? Thirty two, fifteen and twelve? Zi?
What are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Talk?
Speaker 1 (49:38):
And had twenty ten and nine at halftime? Come on, guys,
he's the one that won the game four.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
He played a perfect game for I didn't say I
didn't say nothing about Game four? Isai? He cooked Game four?
He balled out. And I think they have a really
good They have a really good team around them, and
they play very well together. I think they all compliment
each other. I don't think they need a That's why
they're so good. You don't know who the next star is.
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You can't game plan for them because it can be
anybody in any position. You see what I'm saying. One
night it could be Pascal Miles Turner at your four
or five. The next night could be Obi a Pascal.
The next night could be Obi and Miles. Like they're
that good where they all copy each other and they
make each other better. There's only one person that will
be in the game no matter what.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
That's Tyrese.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
But that's what I'm saying to y'all though. That's why
I think they present a different challenge to Okay.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
See, is that you don't know where it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
It's hard to just guard because ok is very good
at Obviously, we see them locking on locking on A
and you. We'll see what they do when then you
can when five can get you.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Well, we got to think about this. Okay, First, let's
let's put this in perspective. Let's be realistic, and let's
talk basketball here. First series, they played the Milwaukee Bucks.
You had Aj Green. They played the Milwaukee You at
the these niggas Cleveland hurt whole team. They were playing
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three white guys.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
They had.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Crazy the hoops, they had uh uh morell uh and
what's the other guy?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Max strus By?
Speaker 3 (51:18):
By you bangal They were to the Baja on These
mothers got them up out here. Then this series they
are attacking Jayalen Bronson. They are attacking Karl Anthony Towns
every chance they got. Who are you attacking on a
KC's guard?
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Bro? No, you no, You're right there. But I'm just saying,
it's just a different challenge. That's it. They can get
up and down. It's just a different game.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
I don't know for sure. I think that it is
a different challenge. But if you trust the person around
you and if if okay see plays hard, they're winning.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
I don't give an We said this though, right do
the are the pacers the four pistons of today's game?
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Is like in the offensive? Sorry?
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Are the pacers the Okay? Are the pistons of four
the offensive?
Speaker 6 (52:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Because I don't think the pace timing.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
Is I don't mean defensive. I just talking about how
their everybody gets it done collectively. In terms of there's
no superstar team they play really well as a team,
and anybody can beat you, whether it's Cheat, whether it's Rip,
whether it's Chauncey.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
It's it's matchups.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
The playoffs is match us. If the Pacers played the Pistons, uh, oh,
it might be a it can probably it might get spooky,
you know what I'm saying, Like they have to. If
the Pacers played Boston might be a different series. Like
they have played the right teams at the right time.
In my opinion, not taking away anything from them, because
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I have said from the beginning of the playoffs the
pacer is a really good basketball team and you gotta
watch out for them. But they have had a very
good road, which is okay to where they are today.
You're catching New York very hurt, very tired, and they're cooked.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Very hurt.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, is not hurt. Carl Towns is fucked up.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
I mean at this point, you know, you know all
that right now, his knee is fucked up. Yeah, his
knee is fucked I mean he still.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
Gave you twenty and some change. How's it really hurt? Okay,
not hurt. They're tired, They're they're exhausted, and we know
that what's going on you are.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
You're good because I want to say something you said before,
but I don't. I don't want outside. I said what
I say, talk your ship home. Aaron Gordon played.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
But he played with a great two Hampshire injury. Blah
blah blah doesn't count. But now when cat plays with
a need what we do here? Charlie again, you were going.
Speaker 5 (53:54):
Hard when I said, well Aaron Gordon still played. You're
like he played with one leg at carl Anthony twas
playing one leg? Why you're not gett being consistent.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
With its not because it's different. You're talking about a
grade two hamstring.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
And we don't know what's wrong with his NEI they're
just not reporting it. We don't know.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
So how you saying we don't know what was wrong
with his knee, but you're saying his knee as fucked wrong.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
You talk to him, You talked to him.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
We don't know what. We don't know what's wrong with
the people asked me to shut the fuck up. So
I'm not trying everything.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
We know.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
We know he has a grade to hamstring issue.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
That for a fact.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
We you, Yeah, you're right, and we don't know what's wrong.
With Anthony Cup Anthony Town.
Speaker 5 (54:36):
Something wrong with Cat though. That's what theo's point is.
And I agree with THEO, but we don't know what.
We know something, but we don't know what. Hey, by
the way, just so everybody knows, Charlie is not wearing
Jersey state, which is really weird for us. That's the
first thing we said.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yeah, you know, I'm on the field early today, so
you know I was working.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
You know what I mean? He was working. Listen, listen,
we've been we've been on Indiana.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Let's let's be nick.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
So since we're talking about Cat, will they have any
chance to come back?
Speaker 3 (55:04):
No? No like that.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
Why do you the first one? You need an ether
beat right now?
Speaker 3 (55:15):
First of all, it's extremely difficult to come back from
three to one. Let's pain something for Charlie. Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (55:22):
You want me to spain real quick?
Speaker 3 (55:24):
You got something? Go check out my try give me sixteen.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
I ordered that. It's gonna play on here. It's gonna
play on here.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
Eventually, that's the end of our relationship, no.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
More boxing.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
I opened up and I told you something, you know
what I mean? And then now you're gonna use it
against me.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
I opened up.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
Paus.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
That's crazy. But yo, let's talk about so no chance
for you, Charlie.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
No, I don't think New York. I mean, I love
man hating on New York Knicks and all that. I
love New York. I just hate the next But there's
no chance they come back from this three to one.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Man.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Indiana's playing tremendous basketball, and I just don't see the Knicks, uh,
coming back out of this hole. Man. It's extremely difficult
to beat a team three times in a row. That's
extremely difficult to do. And we haven't seen that. I
don't even think we've seen that this series. I don't
think I mean this, uh, this playoff series from any team.
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So it's tough.
Speaker 9 (56:35):
Man.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Know the Calves.
Speaker 5 (56:36):
Only the Calves, right, they swept, right, that's the only
thing that won three games in a row.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah. I don't think any other teams ever want this
play He gave up off. He were he were cheeks. Bro.
They didn't belong to be there, bro. Yeah they didn't
want Yeah, yeah what you got for you? Well, yeah
you did come back. The Minnesota went three in a row.
They did Lakers. It was one one that Yeah, Minnesota
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one's three in a row again one one l A.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
Like, yeah, yeah, right, I would say this. I would
say this. Uh, I can see the next winning tonight. Yeah,
I could see them winning tonight.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Not the question, my boy, they're not going Yeah, I
was gonna get that.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
What did Tat say?
Speaker 2 (57:26):
Shut them?
Speaker 4 (57:27):
Shut the up? I'm gonna get a T shirt. Shut
the funk up home. That's my new.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
Hilarious.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Hey, I'm with it. I want no.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
You No, that was not I did not answer the question.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
No, they are not coming back, all right, for the
sole purpose of even if they did win tonight, they're
gonna be gassed. They're gonna do everything they can to
win tonight. They're gonna be cooked when they get the
game six back in Indiana. They're not winning that one.
And like I said, I said this before. At some point,
the way Tills play these guys is gonna come back
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to hurt them. And it has. I don't care what
nobody says. It's toughness, all this dumb shit that everyone
wants to say. It's not that you have to use
your bench and the other guys to help you win games.
They don't do it. They rely on Jalen and Cat
to carry them.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
In everything.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
Michael og OG's not even moving like he like he
was another gaming. He had a good game last game,
but that before that one, it was like four or
five games until he had a good since he had
a good one, Like I think that the ship comes
it to play. Now he has two or three games.
He's been using his bench. But guess what, and they
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came out there, they're like, ship, we out here, what
we do? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
It's sometimes it's two exactly. I think it is a
certain situation.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
You're putting these guys in and the Eastern Conference Finals
against the team that plays the fastest out of anybody.
Speaker 4 (59:08):
That's throwing somebody into the five.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
Year and what and they get and they have given
great minutes, they have done great things. The line right
play Well, yes, you gotta gotta you gotta be ready.
You gotta be ready to play. But I'm telling you
from experience, you are not ready if you play for
Tom Thibodeau, because you are not expecting to play at all.
(59:31):
You've heard Jeff t talk about it. Anybody who's played
from that is not played. You are not expecting at
all to get into the game.
Speaker 4 (59:39):
But let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Let me ask you this, though they've been doing that
all season long, not using their bench like that to
why all of them get you get you get them
to this point Now you're telling him he needs to
switch up. Where was all these comments when the Nicks
beat the Boss? You feel me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
That he said this is going to catch up with them.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
I have said that, I have said this, he said that,
but you got to talk to feel about that. I've
said I've said this from day one, and everyone's like,
Tom Thibodeau is a good basketball coach.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
He is.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Game manager of players and phil I think he.
Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Struggles with that And do you truse that's okay?
Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
So do you truly believe that you said he needs
your adjustment in twenty twenty two?
Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
He's a He's a good basketball coach. Peel, he is
not there.
Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
His feel is not there in my opinion, because he
gets so locked in on the game he can't see
what the fuck is really happening on, Like, oh, Jalen
looks like this, this like a lexidaisical throw to the
corner and be like damn, he looked tired of ship again,
not the game like that part is he don't see that.
(01:00:58):
He's just like tougher, go hold hard, you gotta run
a little bit more, you gotta do a little extra conditioning.
I'm like, no, nigga, just taking the fuck out the
game like that. That's not what this is about. I've
said it before. I think they have a team that
can do something. I don't know if he's the coach
to do it. And I've said this from day one.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I think he just.
Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
You can't you can't ignore the fact that all his
teams do the same thing. Yeah, but isn't this you
can't ignore it. He's gotting the Knicks, Yeah, the Bulls team.
Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Yeah, when you put Derek Rose in with like what
was it like less than and then it left, they're
up twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I'm still salty about that ship. Hey, Derek, forgive him,
so y'all should forgive him.
Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
But this is what I'm saying to that though, to CV,
this is the farthest he got them, right, you can't
take these opportunities for granted. Right at the end of
the day, I don't think they beat Detroit nixt year
because they're gonna be a lot better. You see what
I'm saying. They're gonna be more. Boston's gonna If Boston
is healthy, do you beat them?
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
You actually make a really good point. Might have been
their best year you beat Boston. But Boston jt ain't
gonna be back to twenty six twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
True, But other teams than He's gonna be better. I
know it ain't gonna be that good. True.
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
If if Cleveland's healthy, do they beat Cleveland?
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
You already know my answer.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
In Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Are they gonna be Indiana again next year? That's what
I'm saying, Like Indian still gonna be there. That's a
fact that doesn't say in not going on over this.
Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
They're young.
Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
You already know who's available.
Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Coach was.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
From Denver, oh coach back Malone.
Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Let's talk about that another time, guys, Let's talk about
that another time. Let's yea, what they do, let's what
I do for this they got. But that's a question
because I haven't answered the question yet. They aren't going
to win the series. I don't think the Knicks win
another game. And here's why, damn.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Kind of like what you said about Minnesota in Game four,
I think the Knicks really tried their best to win
that game.
Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Not in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Halla Burton had eight insane game and Knicks played, didn't
play bad. Knicks didn't play bad. Halliburton was just too
much for them. But yo, and they're only getting more
tired as a series goes on, so you can both
make great points. I don't think Jalen Brunson is going
out like.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
That though, Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Yeah in New York. In New York, New York is
gonna be.
Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Rowdy, man, He's going to be jail, you know, and
still young. I feel like jailing until the buzzer goes jailing,
gonna keep playing.
Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
And he's clutch player of the year too. I agree
the fact that I might say, that's what I'm saying.
I just won't compare the two teams.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
New York playing at home. I don't see New York
playing that egg and I don't think the New York
fans will allow you to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
You you get moved out of New York and they
won't let you like, they're gonna kill you if you
they would destroy it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
That's a lot of people to like that, though I'm
not saying give up. A lot of people are scared
to play for New York because of what the playing
in New York, the market to commands, to commands from you, bro,
Playing in New York is not easy, bro, and I
don't think.
Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
I don't see New York laying the egg. I think
it's gonna be a phenomenal game. I'm gonna go down
to the wire.
Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
On the flip side, playing in New York also comes
with the benefits if you play hard and they love you.
It does, right, it does. So Yeah, So y'all got
series is done tonight. Everybody says that I think it
is done.
Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
I'm gonna say something positive about the Knicks right now.
Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
I think New York.
Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I think New York wins because I think the building
is going to be electrifying. I think, uh, it's just
better for basketball. The script. You ain't get the script.
I got the script already.
Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Script. You got some script even wrong quite a bit. Casey, Bro,
there he goes, you go. But uh, I think New
York wins today. I'm with you, Charlie. Actually, I think
New York takes care and.
Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I think Indiana closes it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Indiana.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I think the Knicks. I think the Knicks Wednesday. I
think the Knicks win today and we get a PJ.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Tucker signing. Wow, like PJ in the series.
Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
I mean, he hasn't even plain No.
Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I mean, like, I just I just think he could
do Like, I think he could do something.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
You imagine if you play this series and he guard Pascal.
Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
That's what I don't know, if everything, I don't think
it's that sweet. But the only problem with that is
four against five.
Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
On the other hand, yeah, PJ. PJ is a better
shooter than PJ is a better shooter than Josh Hart.
Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I think.
Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
I think corn threes three.
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I mean, that's why he made a living off the
corny threes, made a lifting off the corner three. You
know what I'm saying. So you're asking him get twenty.
Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
You got twinning tonight, I got the next winning tonight,
So you got pagers and six.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah. To be honest, I want this ship to go
to seven because this is the most exciting close as
closed out of everything. Think about it. You really going
to bed about this finals? I mean, I like, I
like who's right, I like who I would rather see
it going. I want Indiana to win, obviously, but let
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it go to seven.
Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
And I hesitated because.
Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
You really want to win. If you're Indiana, you really
want to win.
Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
To night, you really do. You want to end this ship.
Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
You don't want to go You want to end this
ship and you don't want to play around with this
team there. You just.
Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
You go back to go back to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
That's the pressures on who if you go back to Indiana. Indiana, Indiana, Yeah,
because you ain't trying to go back to New York.
You don't want to go back to New York.
Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
In Game seven said but to Indiana's defense, I don't
want to New York hasn't won a game in New York.
Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
So it's true against the don't want to game in
New York. A field does mean anything to you because
you're from North Carolina. Garner Road, PJ. He can suck
it up out there, Garner Road.
Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Hey listen, he's gonna bring a different type of tenacity,
and like I said, there's a certain type of respect
to You're not gonna just go at PJ.
Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Tucker.
Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
You know what I'm saying, Like that ain't just PJ Tucker,
That's what I'm hearing. I would I say, I say,
I said, you did give him a couple of minutes.
I say, you throw out JB. Michale O, G PJ.
Tucker and kat Or Mitchell. Whoever played the best? Put PJ.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Tucker out there Indiana and five Bro. Yeah, God damn ship.
Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
PJ is my guy too. He's gonna be fresh with
some fresh kicks. I tell you that my election, But
I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
Think that's save the Rick Carlos stuff from race from
two I got. I want to answer a question from
Kevin Kevin Lucas. Shout out to Kevin. Also shout out
to Mike and on Nass. Here here's my question for y'all.
What star needs to change the most between d Book,
Trey Young and Zion. I think the obvious choice is Ion.
Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Know what you said again?
Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
What star needs to.
Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
Change the most between Book, Trey Young and Zion? I
think it's I think in order is Zion did in
trade correct? Because I think trade needs to go somewhere.
Get his recognition. He's not getting tough trade.
Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Listen, Bro, do y'all understand how consistent trade has been.
Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
That's what I'm saying. He don't get the love he deserves.
Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
It might be trade in Zion. No, it has to
be Zion.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Listen, listen, hear me out. Just hear me out. Just
hear me out, Just hear me out.
Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Zion team is still okay, they don't They're not complete ship.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
She know that that organization is cursed. Bro. He need
to get out just because the organization they're gonna find
a way to be bad.
Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
What are the Hawks, bro?
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Hawks are best situations than New Orleans. New Orleans is
just like they have good young talent and they get there.
Hold on, they get there, hold on. So what I
would say to y'all is more so like Zion hasn't
been healthy.
Speaker 8 (01:09:17):
There.
Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
There's a lot of criticism, a lot of back and
forth being him in that front office. At least Tray
has been cool at the front office. Put together a
better team.
Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Look at everything in perspective y'all used to have over Zion,
the thinking about all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
I think, I'm just I'm probably I'm just more ready
to see Trey be somewhere else and flourish.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
In my opinion, facts, I love but.
Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
One. But once again, what is one thing you said?
Zion can go somewhere as motherfucker still might not play.
Zion needs to make better decisions off the court.
Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
But but that's you know what I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
But that's what I say, discussing where I'm gonna call it,
we're more talking about that is we're more talking about that.
We're not even talking about the who's We're talking about
him off the court then just this ship on the
court that it is nasty, but it's disgusting. But that's
what I'm saying, my superstar, and you know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
But I feel that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
Sometimes a change of sceneer, it feels like it benefit
Zion more than trads change the scene room benefit.
Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
All right, So what if Zion goes to what if
Zion goes to Phoenix or some ship?
Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
Well, listen, that is what it is. But I'm just
saying I think just him being more toxic. For sure,
it's toxic, but we're saying if someone wants to make
a change, it would benefit their career more.
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
That's all because I think the change will be eye opening.
I think Trey will still be finding Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Oh, somebody said Trey and Orlando.
Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I've been saying, we have been saying address he fits,
they need they need a point guard.
Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
That's really what the rolling all right.
Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
But by the way, y'all, we are moving to the
Baha fully full time. After the next week. Make sure
you'll go to the channel.
Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
We're gonna be full full house too. Next week.
Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Maybe maybe we'll see Ray gonna be here.
Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Might not be here with ship the way is playing
over there. We might see them a lot sooner than
he hooping. What you, bro, Bro, I need forty though,
I need forty. We need a leg That's good though,
because that means I can see you scoring forty. I
need you to score for it, meaning that you're capable
of scoring.
Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
We need a legacy.
Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
I need a forty ball from you. That's it for sure.
If I hit my first one, it's it's forty for sure.
It's forty.
Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Okay. I gotta get onto the watch play.
Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
In Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
I'm with that.
Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
We talk about it, talk about it, but we're gonna
check them out.
Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
I don't need no passports now.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
We don't just bring your license driver's license.
Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
I need to pass away. Oh yeah, yeah, damn yeah,
it's good looking it up.
Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Questioning all the Hongslander Bro killing you in the chat.
Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
I'm talking from my own gang bro.
Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
People.
Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
People were given for the people people want us to
knock on you.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
That's what we are.
Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
This is anyways, let's let's let's transition. Let's talk about
the state of the league right now.
Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
It's not that much. Let's just talk about, yes, right,
the state of the league in general. I've seen the like.
Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
So there was this tweet talking about like how fans
were disappointed and what the finals match is going to
be potentially is going to be Indiana And Okay, see,
are we to the point because something something that Kadi
said a long time ago. Are we to the point
where NBA fans aren't actually real basketball fans?
Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
It's getting real spooky, bro. They're starting to kiss me
off too because Kadi said this.
Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
Who brought it up in our chat was j Jackson.
Jacks Yeah, you want to elaborate, go ahead. Sorry, it's
just such a yeah, bro, It's just.
Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
It's just so weird, bro, because it's like, why do
we not want to see other people? Why do we
want to see the same as human beings.
Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
We are a creature of habit. We get very comfortable, right.
Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
I think this is good for basketball that we have
other teams that are able to compete and get to
championship level pedigree. Right, We're about to have either okay,
see Indiana or New York Knicks being the champions. And
I think Indiana, I don't know if they've won one Okay,
(01:13:37):
see never won one. Nicks, damn there might have not
have won one. Ship. That ship was a win fifty
years ago, you know what I'm saying. So like, let's
appreciate that we got young talent that's really becoming superstars
and they're playing good basketball, you know what I'm saying.
(01:13:59):
Like everyone's on this shave free throw merchant. Shit, Listen,
if you don't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
The man. The man is getting to his spots.
Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
If you jump and you're undisciplined, you're folloing him and
he's getting to the line. There's nothing you can say
to him about that. It's annoying, one hundred percent, get it.
It is very annoying. But I thoroughly enjoy seeing new
teams there that are because, like I said, Katie Steph
and Bron James Harden Kawhi, those guys are on the
(01:14:31):
way out. We need to see basketball continue to grow
and get it to this new phase or we're gonna
order the radies are definitely gonna go to fuck down right. Well,
this didn't have when Jordan came along and took out
Magic and Bird. What the fuck did we hear?
Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
Then?
Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Nothing because Jordan was on the way. Okay, when Jordan left,
we had Brin Thank you Jesus for bron Now we
got Wimby Yoki yahn Is Shaye uh Luca.
Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
I just I just named a couple.
Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
Because was that the context you're speaking about cam or
was it more just like how the league just becoming
an entertainment show rather than actual about who?
Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
No, I meant people. Well, it's a little bit about
how I say this. I believe that if it's not
certain teams, people are like what the fund? But then
they want but then they'll hate watch those teams.
Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
But the thing is, though the NBA is a is
a player driven league, it is so like you know,
you guys are all big football fans, right, Yeah, y'all
don't give a fuck about players.
Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Really, y'all be following teams. That's sometime the NBA roles.
Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Yeah, because like I have a favorite player that also
have my favorite team and those are the same.
Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Because I like, I don't follow football much.
Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
But I'm not following if I'm fallowing football, fall with
a team, because I'm saying, you.
Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Know how the n b A. The n b A
is in a transition stage right now from the Superstars,
your Lebron's, your you know, k D Staph. We're transitioning
over now to this new n b A. Yeah, ratings
are gonna be low. It might be down, but it's
gonna pick back up because, uh, the NBA is fun
(01:16:18):
to watch when it's all said and done, it's it's
exciting to watch. It is gonna be fun. It's gonna
be fun. I think it's just because of the markets.
Right we got Indiana. Okay, See that ship is not
it's not sexy. It's not sexy. But I think it's
gonna be good basketball at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
And I think it will build those markets to being
built bigger markets.
Speaker 5 (01:16:37):
I think Tyres and Shaft. I mean, it might be
a good little rivalry started out of this. I think
would be a good little.
Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Ribbaly we won't ever see this ship again, might.
Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Be right, I'm talking about just like every time they
meet up.
Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
But hang, let's be honest, No, no one's no one's
I mean, unless it's on national TV, which it probably
will be next year. No one's going on league passing
the oh Ship. Shane Tyree's playing the night Let's.
Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Well, why not must watch TV.
Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
That's the problem TV, that's the that's that's the problem.
As hoopers. I would enjoy to watch that, you know
what I'm saying. But we just got it. We have
to be okay with letting Lebron, Katie and Steph go.
Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
Yeah, but to your point, that's the problem though, right
like these both these teams play good basketball.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Why are we not excited for that? I am, but
we real we think it's we're real hoops watchers.
Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Were but you hung.
Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Everyone can tell you to shut the fuck up, but
you just hit it on top of the head. Bro Basketball, NBA.
They cheer for players, you know why they cheer for players.
Though we're not wearing a helmet. You can be more
personal with this person. When you're in football, it's really
just the team, motherfucker's really just no numbers. You only
know a certain amount of people. You even know, you
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only know a certain amount of people on every football team.
The quarterbacks, yeah, really just quarter you know the quarterback
you know running back and made me a defensive tackle
is arguably the best. He's a defensive end. But I'm
saying I don't even know even then.
Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
The best player in the NFL arguably, like resume wise
is Aaron Donald and really not. He's not a superstar
considered like Aaron Donald retired though, but I'm saying like
he but from the nin yet he was. He was
arguing the best defense player with ever Donald was. He
just retired last year. He just retired last year. Okay,
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Like know, but the problem we got these fans truly
hoopers bro like hoop fans. We know that though you
know what I'm saying. So this is the every time
about me. But I watched Hoops every single night growing up.
Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Like that's what That's what a little bit everybody was
talking about. I just have a different opinion.
Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
But yo, let's talk about you guys, got anything else
on this? I just don't want to bring up the
ESPN new versus old ESPN. Yeah, do you want to
play the Mark Jackson's clip first.
Speaker 8 (01:19:06):
Back back dagger threes by Lebron James the best player?
That's good defense, but better hop beench mama, now.
Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
You want to play the doors with Kirk Clift there.
Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
I don't know much about mystery, but I know the
French and German don't like one another.
Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
And Rudy says, pulls you mister Hart and Stein have
a little bit of that left handed.
Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Dumb Yeah, she's cooking.
Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
I like Doris Bro, She's good to say anything. I
didn't say anything about Doris, but like, but.
Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
I'll well, are we really going to say that she
they Mark Jackson and Jeff and Gunna have been replaced
properly yet.
Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
No, I don't think so. They haven't the fire though.
Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
I'm sorry, but the Doris is cool, She's she's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Did we get it? Did we get a reason why
these are anymore?
Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
I think they just made too much money? He's budget bro.
Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
But between Mark Jackson's one liners like hand hand down,
man down and.
Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Jackson is why is Mark Jackson not a head coach
right now?
Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
It's so many because the Warriors blackball?
Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
But he got the Warriors who they are, Steve Curtin.
Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
So many coaches in the league, he's better than gonna
talk about that right now?
Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Isn't Mark Jackson?
Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
I think he got black boll? Why there was a
lot of stuff, bro, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:20:30):
They said, a beoutind me his his like he had
problems with his assistant coach and the spying and like
all this espionage. I think it's something like that espionage espionage, Yo,
chat you could, I can't spend your chack.
Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Can y'all google him?
Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
Remind us because I remember like it was something like
internal stuff or like it was like a whole internal case,
and I think it was just a lot of ethical stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
I do remember Mark Jackson like being in like the
streets of late like preaching what preaching the gospel.
Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
He's he's a big preacher. They said, yeah, he was
on the corner of this. I never knew that he's a.
Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
Big preacher because I know that they they used to
do gospel and before they had the whole h Chapel,
you know, the whole what's the guy's name sterling they
all went to chapel like Warriors and the Clippers when
there in the middle of the playoff series before they.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
I do remember.
Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
I remember that now, So yeah, I think it's listen.
Mark Jackson is a flat out icon when it comes
to him. Instead him and Van Gundy and god, what's
the boy name? Great?
Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
People are saying my Breen is not the best teammates.
Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
No disrespect them three them three, them three are finals.
Goat is cool? He cool?
Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Mark accent yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
They're not them three though. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
I'm gonna say, is this that's the look. That's the
pure product. That's the pure product, and the product now
is stepped on.
Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
That's so you're not feeling this new ESPN. You're not
feeling the mark. It is stepped on the Morris twins
on you're not.
Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Feeling the I don't watch first take talking about just bro?
Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
What what?
Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Let me ask you this what what?
Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Sharp ahead? What top? Mama? There goes that man and
now man hand down man bang? Those those two bro
oh yeah, like you know what I'm saying, like, those
are those guys bro them three bro there their goats
in this kick out the ray Allen what the three bang?
Speaker 6 (01:22:48):
Like?
Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
Everyone knows that. Everyone knows that.
Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
All right, let's get to the next topic. So big,
we'll skip that.
Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Still live.
Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
It's doing the ESPN right on t T all right,
bringing I was.
Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Just give them their flowers today.
Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
It will be the last day of Inside the NB
on t N T another historical that's.
Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
They're gonna split up over and five. No, they can
still ESPN.
Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
But I think it's airing it on there. They're bringing
the ESPN. That's why I was just like, that's whatever.
But Cameron's talk about it, let's talk.
Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
I was just I was just giving them flowers. Give
the flowers.
Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
So there's no difference. It's just changing from tn T
to ESPN. Yeah, the same ship.
Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
The field are talking about what I feel is going.
Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Bro, it might be a little and would with this
if the Yeah, if the guys are still staying together.
Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
But we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
It's gonna be a little different. It's gonna be a
little different, different, boss different. No, I think they have
full creative control.
Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
I think that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
They have full created I know that they just bringing
it to the ESPN.
Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Okay, my father the same ship.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
My fault.
Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
I could be wrong, but that's what I read correctly.
Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
That was reported.
Speaker 5 (01:23:53):
I don't know what's official, so just everybody knows thanks
to the car, he said. Mark jackson time as head
coach for the Golden State Warriors was marked by an
incident where one of his assistants. Darren Irman was fired
for allegedly secretly recording team meetings without the knowledge of everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
So it was asked pionage in a way that is
crazy crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
But anyways, go ahead, cav So yeah, next topic, something
is something that I didn't even know about.
Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
The home brought to my attention that part of the
issue why Jordan Poole had to go also dealt with Clay.
Apparently he was uncomfortable with, you know, him feeling like
he should be the starter, even though it might have
been said publicly. The way Jordan Poole carried himself gave
Clay the idea that he felt like he should be
the start, and Clay felt like he earned that.
Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Let's get into the club.
Speaker 9 (01:24:38):
They say this like Steve is tough on young guys,
but they namely the young guy who they've gone through
and has not developed and they've moved on from who's
been a star ELP for like Jordan Poole.
Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Maybe, but that wasn't Steve. We know that wasn't Steve.
That was Draymond.
Speaker 10 (01:24:53):
Like that they had to move off with Jordan for
to with Draymond and Clay. And I've heard this more
and more that Clay was not comfortable with this guy
pushing him and pushing him push him. Clay thought, I
just I've earned this starting role. Why is this guy
keep saying that he should be the starter and not publicly?
Maybe it's so much as just in the way he
carried himself and that's fine for young player to but
(01:25:15):
but they couldn't keep that guy who got punched by drama,
not his fault, and who was putting making things tense
with with Clay.
Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
So that's Jordan.
Speaker 10 (01:25:24):
Whatever we think about words careers now, I wouldn't put
that on on Kurve.
Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Yeah, so that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (01:25:31):
So just everybody knows that's Tim callac me. He's a
beat writer and he's a pretty repel source.
Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
He's on that interviewed Steve Kerr when he says, I
mean I've messaged him on Twitter before. He's a he's
a very repeal source.
Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Like you know, he's one of the main more his
main beat writers.
Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
One of your peoples. You were saying that when you
were saying your peoples, whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
You say, why you always make.
Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
Yo yo, Somebody do not let Charlie in the building
if he has Goldfield bro what's up with that?
Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
But fucking Clay's sucking the man?
Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Why he can't coming off the bench over Jordan Poole?
Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Why you're comfortable about it? What were we talking about here? Bro?
Like Jordan Poole, I'm sorry, good player, but having him
around leadership? Uh, that that's what he thrived. Jordan Poole
goes to fucking Washington, becomes a man, and you see
(01:26:32):
how garbage Washington is.
Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Bonzo Beans like, come on.
Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Like Jordan Poole, like, I'm sorry, good player, but you're
not the star player. Shouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (01:26:43):
There's a couple of things like why is Clay uncomfortable
If you're Clay Thompson, play prove yourself on the court.
Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Do we know that for sure? What did you just
say he Clay don't got approved ship? What? Yeah? Like,
what do you mean what?
Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
You can just live off your name and live off
your plaist Laurels, you shoot thirty five percent and you
cool to stay in the trust.
Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
That just sounds complainingly, Klay Thompson's resume is impeccable, Bro,
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
So you're going to start him just because he's Klay
Thompson if he's playing like us.
Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Yeah, he got us whoever he got us to this
right now though, maybe pivot in the Honks point.
Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
If right now, if you the Wards, would you rather
have Clay right now? Or would you rather have Jordan Poole?
Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Okay, Klay Thompson, I don't care, Jordan crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Jordan Poole would do a lot for this team right now.
Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Jordan Poole at this current moment, you're taking you're taking
him on Clay Thompson.
Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
We're not talking about twenty eighteen, Clay Thompson were talking
about twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Klay Thompson, I still take CLAYT. Thompson, bro, I'm not
taking fucking Jordan Poole.
Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Feel who you're picking right now?
Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
I'm not picking Jordan Pool. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Why still looks so stressed thup answering this question.
Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
It's not that it's not that easy. I think the
question is it's respect. You don't if you're the Warriors
and they're both on the Warriors team, yes, you do
what you have to do. And Klay Thompson is starting
until he is gone. So when Clay Thompson leaves Jordan Poole,
(01:28:13):
you're next up. That's what it was about to happen,
but Draymond decided to sock this motherfucker. That's what happened.
Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
We get to a real reason why he got socked.
Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
You know, Yeah, I think Jordan Poole deserve to get
socked in this man thing, like, yeah, he deserves to
get caught.
Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Unfortunately I do.
Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Y'all really believe it doesn't matter how bad you play,
you deserve to start, no matter what.
Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
If you have a.
Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Grocious He was really bad that year, Clay.
Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
He was really bad his last year. Sometimes he was
really bad that he was unplayable a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
Actually, I think I think the only game you really
remember was his last game. And y'all forget what did
all throughout his career.
Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Don't forget.
Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
We're not talking about that, bro, but I'm talking about like, well, Stee,
what do Steve Curse say? He's like, it's my job
right now to win games.
Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
So let me ask you something.
Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
If if Clay go if Clay goes out, I'm willing
to start Clay to see if he's going or not
before I not give him a chance.
Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
At all and say we're not saying no play the nigga.
Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
But if so, why would you not give Clay. Clay
has earned the right to start. Clay. If you got
it tonight, you play.
Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
If you don't, you get less minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
I know, I agree, I agree with that, but I
just don't like the sentiment. And obviously you guys look
at so different because you guys are pro hoopers, which
is completely fair? Is that because my legacy, I automatically
start like, no, if you're not the best, if the
best starting five doesn't include you, then you play the
best five we're talking about, So you would.
Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
So so would you?
Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
So you would have sat Michael Jordan he played for
the Wizards.
Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
So the best player on the Wizards. Then I don't know,
maybe he's the second best player, but him and Rips started.
Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
So you're bringing Jordan off the bench? Are you starting
a forty one? Are you bringing Jordan off the bench?
If I had prime Jay, I need you to come
off the bench. If I had prime.
Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Anthony and I had forty year old Michael, yes, I'm
bringing I'm starting Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
See this is the thing with Clay Thompson.
Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
Going back to answer the question, if you have prime
Anthony Edwards and you have a forty year old Michael
Jordan who but.
Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Listen and basketball terms though, home, you would rather start
somebody older and somebody that you want to see do something.
You'd rather start them to have them come off the bench,
because what if you get off to a slow start. Right,
you just said you don't trust Clay Thompson. You're down fifteen,
and then you put in Klay Thompson.
Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
When Ai went to Detroit, what happened? You're you're gonna
have to come off the bench, right, have to play Ai? Right,
you have to play them because of his resume. You're
not bringing Ai off the bench. And what happened in
Detroit when that happened didn't work?
Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
All right? My point, it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
My point, it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
The niggas lost jobs over there.
Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
And going back to Clay though, real quick with the
whole close situation. Clay is the type of player that
he can he can get high at any moment. Right,
he can have a terrible game, but that motherfucking fourth
quarter come he can fucking score twenty. Then what happens?
Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
It just won't play again? Easy?
Speaker 5 (01:31:35):
Are we just gonnagree to disagree. Let's let's move on.
Let's move on to Cams Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Yeah, the MAVs punt guard sweepstakes. So do we think
that the MAVs can get their dream guy?
Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Pause?
Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Drew Holliday. Do you think they can make the money work?
That's the top of their list right now, it's Drew Holliday.
Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
If they can get Drew Holliday, that'll be fire. It
can make the money work. I don't know can they?
I mean, is do they even have money?
Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Not really? So I mean Holiday willing to take a
one year deal.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
From No, Drew's extend until twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Bro, he's kidding them.
Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
You got his bread, Drew. There's something, there's some offloading
that's going to have to happen.
Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
If that happens, Damn, Yes, or Holidays or like a
three team trade or something can play together for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
But the money wise is not gonna work.
Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Well, let's let's take a little because you basically have
three guys.
Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
But if you pay Gaffer, pay Gaffer with Drew makes
just swap them.
Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
Yeah, you guys know who they have on who they
have on the cap. You'd have to trade Clay Daniel
and PJ to make No, No, he's making thirty.
Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
You don't have to trade either. Combination of Caleb, Nase
and Clay or Gafford probably make it work. But I
don't know if Boston wants that.
Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Yeah, they would want Gafford for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
Yeah, So I mean I think Gafford and Clay get
the job, or Gafford, Nausey and Jaden could get the
deal done contracts wise.
Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
I would if I was then i'ld go Gafford.
Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Caleb, see if you can get that done.
Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
But fuck the money aspect of it, right, Do you
guys think it's a good move. Let's actually just break
down the basketball side. Do you guys want to see it?
Because the money is whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
I think MAVs can go after Dennis Droder.
Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
Okay, we're not talking about Dennis. Do you like the
Drew move? Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
What I'm saying is no, I don't like it, thank you,
And it's me as my team.
Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
As my team with the guys who I know who
are available, I'd rather than get these other guys.
Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
You personally, money, the price for Drews.
Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Too long, is too much?
Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
It might not be because Boston needs unload some contracts.
That's all. That's it. But anyways, Precious, I feel do
you like the move.
Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
No, I would pay gaffort. I would go get Chris Paul.
Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
That's all the target that's the next the next, the
next part on. Let's get into cam target list.
Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Target number two is Linzo Ball and target number three
is Chris Paul, and it is I not a full
reputable source, so I don't want to like stamp it,
but I've heard that the spreads are ready to.
Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Move on from Chris Paul. So I think everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Ye, everybody knows yeah, But until I hear from report,
I'm gonna just be like, yeah, they're gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
So whichever price, whether it's Lonzo Ball, Chris Paul, but tongs,
who do you prefer on that on the Mavericks, It's
gonna come.
Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Down to the money thing.
Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Well, you think it's a better fit plays like play style.
Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Fucking Chris Paul. We're talking about, like, fuck, he's one
of the best fucking point guards ever.
Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
He's gonna be forty one.
Speaker 5 (01:34:50):
Yeah, Lonzo, but I prefer because you can play Kyrie
and Lonzo and you don't you're not missing size on
the court.
Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
You play because you're not You're not.
Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
You're your pick.
Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
If you bring Chris, you're bringing Chris to hold you
over for one year until I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Kyrie and Crystal fit on the floor together, though, right,
why not?
Speaker 6 (01:35:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
I mean the small as it so, I'm like Lonzo
can play with or without Kyrie. It's a great fit.
Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Well, Chris and could definitely play together, but Bill know
long Chris Ky doesn't. I would definitely prefer to be
off the ball. You see what I'm saying. First of all,
let's go. Let's go ahead and cut that little ship out.
You got Cooper Flag, Anthony Davis, and Daniel Gafford. Likely,
(01:35:40):
you don't give a how little you are. You got
a fucking twin towns in behind you. You don't got
to worry about nothing but size. Give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
You are fine on the back up. I can just
elevate over you if I'm an elite scorer. If you
want to shoot threes all day. But that's.
Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
But he gonna kill you cool, Yeah, I'll run you
off the spot. But we got trust me, we got
help behind us. Trust me. I'm not worried about that. Part.
I just like I said, it'll be just to hold
it over to gets back, But you just still need
another guard to uh to come help out.
Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
You got to say, Chris Paul fits better than a Lonzo.
Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
I just haven't seen Linzo play. So yeah, Dan, you're
just gonna lose faith and then with you, Oh yeah,
bring bring.
Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Spence back to be the starting point guard to hold
you over. I think he can do it.
Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
No, I'm saying, Chris, have Chris and been with the
until I gets back?
Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Well, then why not have Zone been with you? That's
the case.
Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
That's what I'm saying. It comes down to the money.
You get the cheaper one, bro, because you just need
somebody down because I think we like going out over ahead.
I didn't know what that was you finna say, I
just stick is you go off track record? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
If Chris got Biggs, he.
Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Historically does very well. Also sixty years old, bro, he's forty. Yeah.
Hey listen, if y'all want to go get Zoe, go
get Zo. I'm cool with it.
Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
I think they're both very good.
Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Yeah, I'm just going off what I knows.
Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Not the fact that it's an argument means that they're
both good. Choices.
Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
I think no, no, I see both perspectives. I'm just
going off one motherfucker just played eighty two and the
other one just played maybe fifteen.
Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
That's true statement he didn't play eighty two, but then
also concerns me can he do it again for the
next season.
Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
I just need him to give me to January exactly.
You just need somebody to get you the JA so he.
Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Can give He can give you fifty you get.
Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
Basically, he give me fifty and give me some good
playoff runs. I'm cool because there's to be some games
that he could I just think Chris is a better
game management manager and can control shit more than a
lot of point guards. You're just looking for what you need, bro,
that's all. You're looking for an insurance pot.
Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
But if you're gonna play with Cooper and Anthony Davis,
I mean, I guess you still need a player.
Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
I'm just saying, when we spoke about it earlier in
the year, you said, just give the ball to ant
I'm not a d and let him work like that's
gonna be your offense right in the playoffs. And you're
gonna give the ball to eighty and let him go
to work, right, So it's like, do you really need
Chris to do that? I mean, obviously Chris makes it easier,
but I think Lonzo can do the job.
Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
That's what I'm saying. I think they both can get
it done. You can't go go wrong with either. Like
I said, what one just has a record of doing
it at a higher, higher level.
Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
There's not been There's not been.
Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
One team other than this last team Chris has been
on that has been bad and they weren't even bad.
Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Win Big got hurt. Yeah, because of them. Hey, we
missed the playoffs last year. Just gonna put that out there.
That was because your boy, right.
Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
I didn't say it was Chris's fault. I'm just saying
we we missed. We missed the playoffs for Chris last year. Yeah,
but it wasn't because of his.
Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
No, No, I'm just saying, Okay, because he doesn't believe
y'all are believing in pots. All right, let's move on
go wrong with let's move that just makes me mad.
Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Let's give some flowers. I mean, let's give some flowers
out to Candice park Or. Her jersey has been retired
by the Chicago Sky. This is what do you say
about her legacy.
Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
But why is the jersey retired with the sky not
the spark.
Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
She got one, she got one chip. It's a Field model.
You get one chip, you get a statue one year one.
Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
Model model, not a statue.
Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
But she deserves a statue. Kwi does she does. I
didn't say that's that's the Field model.
Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
That's the the I don't think Hong is filling your model,
but I'm gonna let you. Uh, she definitely deserves a
jersey retired. She might decide she might need to get
her a statue too. I don't know if they do.
They do they do statues for I don't know that'd
be fire. They'll be first one.
Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
I'm just rolling with the Field model. You get a statue,
Lisa have one. No, No, lisak ne one though O
Tarassi neither one. CHAROSSI donna get one.
Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Gonna get one. Charassie will get one for sure. I
don't see why Chicago doesn't do it.
Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Yeah, yeah, Celesi is planned to have a statue. Yeah, okay, okay,
there will be. I mean this is the first one ever.
This was supported in twenty nineteen, so actually it might
not be happening.
Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Bro, So how many how many championships this candas have
with LA one one.
Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
But one of the most epic ones. She took down
the Links dynasty.
Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
Yeah, that year, one of the most she was She
was with LA for a minute though, since two thousand
and eight. I think she left in twenty that that
that Chicago Sky year, so she was there for like
twelve years.
Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Yeah, she was tough.
Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Because if Lisa get one, Candis might have to get one.
Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
Oh, for there's no women's statue, right, I.
Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Don't know there is I think believe, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
I just need to change that.
Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
It should be least Leslie. I would think you would
have one if that's the case. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Lastly, I mean you got Maya more.
Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
You got no Asian.
Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
I mean Asian Wilson has one outside of her college.
Oh for real, she has one out. Yeah, Asian Wilson
got one to South Carolina. I know that for a fact,
that Asian got one in South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Really. Yeah, Asia golded brod she was Caitlin Clark and
I have statues everywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
You better retire in every goddamn w NBA arena. Bro
for what she's doing for the league. We talked about
the last year, Billy, she she might be the m J.
Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
We said that last time she was.
Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
The MJ's jersey is retired in Miami.
Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
I know that Ky ray rally some respect. W they
probably need to retire caitl That glazing a little bit.
What jo jersey retired team you never played for? No,
I don't think so, let's respect, okay.
Speaker 5 (01:41:54):
I mean it depends, right, like if they were retired,
if they retired some Joe Smo's jersey, whatever, But it's
m J.
Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
He changed the whole game. They do that for Bron.
Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
They didn't touch the changed the whole game and didn't
change a game talking about Bron, Oh, what was gonna say?
Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
I don't know if Bron changed the whole game. No,
he didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
He's just he's just one of the goats. He is.
If there's no m J, I don't know who the
NBA is at today.
Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
He's one that really made it.
Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
I mean, but if if Bron didn't come right after, yeah,
he's right to That's what I'm saying, Like because the
transition was so smooth that no one gives him that credit.
Speaker 5 (01:42:31):
Kobe would have let us off the twenty twenty sixteen.
So Steph Curry was around James Harden.
Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
I'm just saying, I don't know if it had Kobe
would still if it wasn't for Lebron. There's no Lebron.
Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Kobe with the nine first Bron with the nine straight finals,
but what the eight?
Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
But yeah, but he went to tea, he went to finals,
he went to t How do you go to ten
trad finals?
Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
He didn't go.
Speaker 5 (01:42:57):
It was eight in two in two thousand and nine,
who was in the finals. It was Orlando, and it
was LA in two thousand and nine, twenty ten, it
was Boston in l A. Then ten eleven, it was
Miami and Dallas and ten and then he went till
twenty eighteen with Golden State and then there was Golden
State in the raptors in twenty You're right, it was eight.
Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
It was it.
Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
He's been a ten total. Would argue we're hong on stats.
Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
Bro sometimes if I know, I know, but yo, I
had to put Charlie and the New Yorkers in their place,
But we won't talk about that.
Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
I'm just joking.
Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
I'm joking, talking shit and talk shit.
Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
This is why you get the slander and all the ship.
Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
They were trying to go off about how Toronto isn't
the most multicultural sitting in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Yeah, and they had they all googled it and they said,
I'm gonna shut the fuck up. Yeah, yeah know this ship.
Speaker 5 (01:43:47):
Anyways, let's keep it. Let's keep it moving because, uh,
the people want to hear some new stuff. So should
we touch cam break let's talk about it. So she
had some comments on the roster sides of the w
Let's wrote a clip.
Speaker 6 (01:43:59):
It's son for that rosters can only hold twelve. Personally,
I think roster sizes need to be expanded before we
add any more expansion teams, because it's kind of crazy.
Twelve twelve people for a.
Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Roster is like I do it.
Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
I don't disagree with her.
Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
Why twelve, because she also said she believed that they
should do that before they have more expansion teams.
Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
He's She's right, Oh are you looking at that?
Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Why are you looking like I'm looking at you. I'm
just thinking you need some gold fuel.
Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
You need some gold.
Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Y'all. Don't want to see you on the gold field.
He's right, y'all don't want to see more dob ball
co work.
Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
She's right, though.
Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Someone sail like Draymond and Jordan Poole.
Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
Keeping with me, fucking with me, you on, I'm waiting
for you to say some off the walls here, bing
bing is coming, big bing two peach anyway, My, we
don't come thrown violence here onto the Baja.
Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
Anyways, Hey, hold up, before we do that. Should we
have it to the Baja after dark? Let us know,
there'll have some drinks. Charlie go, Charlie gonna host us
at the crib.
Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
I will host it at the crib.
Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Let us know if y'all down for to the Baja
after dark, and I will tell all the stories all
the dark.
Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
You see what I'm saying, Getting to the Baja, I
will talk about So second, my highest let the story.
Can I get the bike for a second.
Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
I'm just so.
Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
There's a time where I score forty eight points against Milwaukee.
But that night, before that night, I was in the streets.
And this is one way I can talk about what
I was doing and all that. But that comes after
dark though that if you guys want to see to
the behinf the dark, I'll finish the story.
Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
Were you in the streets in Milwaukee?
Speaker 6 (01:45:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
You?
Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
I was in the streets in Milwaukee. Yeah, you dropped
it on the road, right.
Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Yeah, but the night before I think we had a
game against Cleveland and that was out and that was out.
Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
And yeah, we can talk about that. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
But anyways, Hey man, you're not gonna answer the question
with Cavion Brinks.
Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
I don't agree. Why Why?
Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
Because I don't agree. I think you just do expansion.
I want I'd rather see expansion with more teams to
hold more players. I think that the more places we
get the w NBA, the more basketball arenas we're in,
the faster league will grow. I think adding a roster
spot or two and spending that actual money for teams
that already obviously the whole financially doesn't make a sense.
(01:46:45):
It's adding more teams to build the league. That would
be my opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
But I do think they should have more roster spots
four players, just not in that way.
Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
I think about it like this, If three players get hurt,
you're down to nine people on your team.
Speaker 5 (01:46:57):
That's That's not how it works in the w You
get exceptions because your rosters are so small, you get exception.
Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
What do you mean sign players you can sign.
Speaker 5 (01:47:04):
Players because like you know, bet nyjer got injured at Unrivaled,
the Liberty got exception off of a contract.
Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
So I'm just saying, during the season, three players get hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Yeah, you can get exceptions because the ross is so small.
Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
So then but why if if you can get exceptions,
then why not just add fu Yeah what the three players?
I like, you know what I'm saying, Like, if you
can do that, like, why not just add more? No? No,
But that's like that's like what makes no sense to me,
is like that happens all the time. That's going to happen.
People are going to get hurt. People got hurt in
the preseason. You got all these exceptions. Bullshit, just add
(01:47:41):
fifteen players. Yeah, what's the I'm like some keeps. First
of all, we still trying to We're still trying to
get butts in the seats and the teams we got, Now,
why let's just add more players so we don't they
don't these teams don't have to go find someone for
expand for exceptions and all this ship. Like yep, let's
(01:48:03):
just do what we have to do now, Like I
get it. We just expanded we got because the Toronto
team coming right.
Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
Yeah, coming and then the Golden State, the Golden State
team to.
Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
Go to state just happened. So I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
We're good the way you start there, I'm still we're good. Yeah,
we're good. With the expansion, I agree with her. I
think they should add more players and that just gives
more opportunities and it's just good for the game.
Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Man Field, seven to eight people played bro so like,
if there's twelve, four of them aren't playing.
Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
So if two get injured, I'm gonnaell you. I'm gonna
tell you which I'm not. You can't talk to me
like that because I was the last nigga on the bench.
That's what I want, more roster spots. That's why would
you want more roster spots? Because you say people have
an opportunity. What do you mean? I get what you said.
Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
I don't agree with it.
Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
By what he's saying is if two people get paying
people to not play basics, So why.
Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Would I would want to get right? But that's what
I'm saying though, But he said, I don't know what
then can afford to do that in w B A can't.
Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
But then this is the stupid part. This is that
makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Now, let's more team, Let's have a whole nother Franchise's thing.
Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
The overhead on that is going to be they're going
to be bleeding money for a decade or yes, because
they understand that's to grow the league.
Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
I don't know if roster spots are necessary in mind
to grow the league, Like if you add another team theoretically,
and where's the market that needs needs a team in Houston,
that's another market that needs a w n B A
team rather than spend on extra players, That's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
I'd rather we need to really we need to really
pay attention to this. We need to pump the brakes
on all the fucking expansions in the first place. Did
y'all see what happened when Kaylen Clark got hurt?
Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
Oh yeah I saw that.
Speaker 4 (01:49:59):
For yeah, that's insane. We might need to pump the breaks.
Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
You wake to June ju get wait to.
Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
But But back to my point though, guys, is that
if there's only five players playing, and only eight players
really play.
Speaker 5 (01:50:16):
Why do we need fifteen on the roster. If two
get injured, the other two get a chance to play.
Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
That's my whole you know, what's crazy and practice? You
could if three players are hurt, you can you can't
play five on five? Don't you even scimmage? They got?
They got? Dudes.
Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
I know that, I know that you're fucking practice player.
Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
No, im not.
Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
I can't play bro.
Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
Okay, you used to go to the bar in high school.
Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
I used to do that was freaking twenty years ago, almost.
Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Thirty thirty three, this year thirty three.
Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
You're still young.
Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
Okay, anyways, go who so you can't hoop with them?
You'll get that.
Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
I can definitely.
Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
You get cooked get Anyways.
Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Anyways, next topic, y'all, uh.
Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
That might be the next topics.
Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
Playing the w n B a.
Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Crazy?
Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
Can you be a practice player in the w.
Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
BE? A w n B A practice over over under,
over under? He can get five points on the w bround.
Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
By the way that people do want to see the
to the behinf the dark just playing it out there.
Hey man, I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
I'm with it to the bell half the dark. Let's
get us a Charlie's crib some drinks. He if I
don't cancel us, ask for it your word, don't cancel.
That's a good lawyer on that that one.
Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
You know you're playing tonight, right, Yes, sir Kurt says,
you're going for forty tonight, you doing.
Speaker 4 (01:51:54):
I need forty peal, we need forty.
Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
If you don't get forty, legacy, we need a legacy,
am Bro.
Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
I need a legacy game from deal.
Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
Brom because I know he's capable of Yo, my boy.
My boy had a triple double in his last game.
He don't need no legacy game. In Puerto Rico. What
we doing last Yeah? We talking about with no turnovers.
Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Listen, everybody was impressed about Tyre's Halliburn ship with no
turnover making the funk out of here.
Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
I did that ship before, but my whole point talk
ship got a legacy game and got Caliburn at home
in the Rico.
Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
It's good, Bump, Here's good.
Speaker 5 (01:52:41):
I'm saying you don't need a legacy game in the Rico.
You stamp anyways about.
Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
To give me a girl, get pregame mail and say
Kelsey Plumb will have a field day with home.
Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
I was some man appropriate.
Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
I'm not gonna talk guys. She cook you bro, I'm
not gonna talk you. I'm not gonna talk.
Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
She's a lefty to now you don't want to talk.
I don't want to talk.
Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
You don't want to talk.
Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Bluss your ass, I don't want to talk.
Speaker 4 (01:53:13):
CB, You'll get cooked?
Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Who him? He's asking? Would you get cooked?
Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
She could cook me anytime I say.
Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
Let me, let me, let me get an l A
sparks roster spot stop this bro.
Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
All right, that's it yo, y'all got he last started
right now?
Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Any time?
Speaker 5 (01:53:42):
Y'all got any thoughts before? Hey, guys, we're gonna start
off in two minutes. Put put your questions in the
chat asap. If y'all have any questions. Y'all got any
thoughts before we sign up?
Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
Oh us.
Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Twice I'm like, okay, y'all got any last thoughts?
Speaker 10 (01:54:06):
This is I.
Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
Yeah, I thought he talked to the chat. I was like, yeah,
I appreciate, appreciate the new day and age, appreciate these
young fellas coming along in the n B B A,
and enjoy good basketball.
Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
I think tonight's gonna be good basketball. Whoever, okay see
plays this next series, which we all believe it is
gonna be Indiana, It's gonna be a very good series,
and I think it's gonna be a jump start to
the next uh point in the league. I don't think
we'll ever see bron kd unless kdie go to the Maps.
I think that'll be something that will be very to
(01:54:44):
the finals again, I think I don't think we ever
see them guys in the finals again. I think this
is a new day and age, and I think the
young fellas don't give a fuck and they like Yeah,
I think they want straight smoke.
Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
So it's good for the league.
Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Oh ship, I forgot bron got Luca, so I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
They get a good bignest for it. Yeah, you guys
have the Pacers getting blown out tonight or the close game.
Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
I think it's closed, not blown out.
Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
The win.
Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Yeah, I think there's no blowouts. I think I think.
I think it's a twenty point dub tonight. I think
New York gonna come up.
Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
Actually, actually I need the I need the Pacers to win.
Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Oh before we actually sign out, though, because we have
no questions to chat.
Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
You pick out your car yet, bro, Yeah, that's how
I was going to put you mother fuck up. You
cut me off, you take the head, so cut his
mic call, give me a mic, goddamn it. Uh Yeah,
So I need a paces to win because me and
the wife have a bet going on, and that bet
is if the Pacers win, uh win this series, I
(01:55:46):
get a car and vice versa. Any cardo, any car.
We can pick any car.
Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
What you're picking.
Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
I'm going big, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
You drop the AO like he would. Hey, Yo, it's
a good point. I don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
I mean they haven't technically won yet, so I can't
you know.
Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Get couch couch chickens.
Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
Before that, can't camp the chickens before you?
Speaker 5 (01:56:11):
All right, chat, send us, Send us what Charlie should
get in the chat what y'all think? And it's any car,
and it's any car, it's any whip because you got
it like, hey, hey, but this is the most important
thing right here. People tell your mama, your sister, your brother,
your daddy, your mam.
Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
I don't give it down who you tell?
Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
Tell that about. We are moving to the to the
Baja channel. Get off my ship, y'all fucking up my
algorithm all right? Where we're going to see where we're
gonna be on too the Baja next week. We appreciate
the love, man, it's been one hell of a show.
Shout out to the OKC Thunder getting that dub getting
(01:56:53):
to the finals. Y'all have proved us wrong and y'all
are doing your thing, and uh.
Speaker 5 (01:56:59):
I need afford it Eastern and don't get a forty piece.
He showed up with a clown outfro bro his.
Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
Next Okay, hell now I got y'all.
Speaker 4 (01:57:13):
I'm gonna see what I can do.
Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
You need one before you leave the rico.
Speaker 8 (01:57:16):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
If you don't come back with a before you leave
the rico, you gotta wear a frow or something.
Speaker 8 (01:57:22):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Something we got I do that, I do that, then.
Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
I do that, all right, have a good day. Give
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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