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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (01:44):
So that was good though. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, I didn't practice it, you know, I'm a that
was Joe. You know, I'm all right. You know what
we're working on the ads.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh yeah, we don't dem it today. People let me
do ads one day.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You are going to do that, we're gonna record it.
I don't know if he's gonna do that, No problem,
hey man, All right, yo, listen, y'all will see it.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
But listen.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
First thing is first, I didn't even intro you guys, see,
I funked up. Shout the Raymond Felton's in the building.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
There you go. I was just wondering if I was
here or not.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Fault. I even got Charlie V in the building and
be and we got a TP young boy over here.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm on that time today.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
He is on that time today. But yeah, listen, let's
get to it. Someone was on that time two days ago.
And I didn't see the clip, Lebron James, let's play
the clip.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Gave a little bump and Gabe went flying and he
stepped back and knocked down the jumping.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And I know, Lakers fans, this is about as bad
as it gets when Brooks is the guy.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Doing damage to the Purple and Gold. Twenty seven assists
for Phoenix on thirty five.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Going to time out, and then Fisher ton't see jk
out on the court forty nine seconds left in the third,
So the second and third quarters havantually belonged to the Suns.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I don't know the exact amount, but I know they
were down twenty plus. I think it was twenty three.
At that point when he's having conversation.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Lebron knew exactly what he was doing, exactly what the narrative,
exactly what he called.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
A time out.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
The whole entire team was on the bench. He's still
having a conversation with Phoenix, bitch, and you down twenty plus?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Isn't the problem that JJ was trying to call him
entire time and he's still having a conversation with the bench.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
That's why Jordian called a tome out because he couldn't
get Lebron's attention, so he called the time out because
of that. So Lebron said, fuck that shit. Do you
get supped out the game.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Ten points?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yet he needs a double digits? I get it.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
It's time. It's time. Oh, it's time now.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
The O was fucking crazy before, was silly before y'all
hated it.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
I'm a realist, said it's time to what's this time for?
Is it time for him to retire or is it
time for him them to part ways?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I can't wait till Jordan Young gets in.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Want to say party ways, but it's time to move on.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Does that mean.

Speaker 6 (04:39):
We're not on no political ship today? Bro, we're not
doing that. We're not doing that. We're not doing that.
We're in this till ass sweatsuit.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You gotta what the what the hell is that? You
know what type of I set the text message in
it that we don't deem it with the shoes. He
didn't say that, like, hey, let me tell you, man,
I do I like do my thing.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
You did send that ten to seventeen. Bro, Well he
said he all black today.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, he was already on the way too. He was
ready on. You should have knew the memo.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Heard you.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm disappointed in.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
You, but serious though, you're not gonna say what you're
trying to say. Well, heard you, Like you've been dumb
political right now?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
You speak your mind, my boy, you speak your mind.
I got the phone call, gentlemen, you got the black
trucks urd you. I didn't guess what he gotta go.
It has to be I told you.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Lebron James is one of the best player top three
players to ever play this game. Right, He's not a
corner of the corner guy. He's over that ship already. No,
he's over. If you watch that game the other night,
there were so many times he's sitting there waiting on
the ball and the ball never finds him.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
He's never been that in his whole life.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Why in year twenty three are you expecting Lebron James
to be that? You shouldn't ask somebody who's that stature
to do that. If you're the Lakers, somebody that sta
shouldn't do what he just did. Huh, somebody that.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Can do whatever the hell he wants to.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Why?

Speaker 6 (06:20):
Why all right now? Why would m jail Kobe ever
do that? M j and Kobe never got put in
the position to be that. What was Kobe's last year?
He never got put in a position to be the
third guy. Kobe would never do that. Kobe Michael Jordan
was never the third guy.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Because he willed to allow himself to be put in
that position.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
How Lebron allowed that? Why would you allow yourself? I've
never been this day of my life. If that's what
you want to do. As soon as they tell as
soon as I hear this is Lucas team bet that's cool,
and the thing is Lebron is mature enough.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I believe bet let's move forward.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Things change. The reason being things change because the Lakers
at the end of the day, they didn't expect to
land Luca. Right, there's an opportunity that came where like,
let's say, MJ fucking ai is, you had a.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Whole summer with Luca been there, you know, Lucas there, Luca.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
What I'm saying is, so now that Lucas here, you
have to build around Luca, not Lebron, because Lebron is
at the end of his career.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
That's why I was trying to understand why I was
so crazy. You have to build around your next ten years. Yeah,
you gotta. You gotta take advantage of this greatness that
you gotta Luca. Luca is playing the best basketball he
has played, So you got to cater to that. You
have to cater to that. You wouldn't put if Lebron

(07:50):
was younger. Yes, but you need a defender. You need
a guy who's gonna play on both ends of the
floor and who's gonna do that little things or it's
gotta be a two way player. It has to be
a J dub, it has to be a Jaylen Brown
that type of player. It has to be a Drew

(08:10):
Holliday that type of player around him where you can
protect him from his so he can just go be great.
I don't know why I was. I don't know why
I was crucified for that. It makes no sense to me.
But now you see it. Lebron is fed out with
the ship. Bron one years old, Kobe what was his

(08:33):
last year? Thirty eight thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Thirty thirty seven years But Kobe was also last year
the team was bad, Like it was just a different circumstance.
Kobe's team was terrible in his last year. That's fair,
so it's tough to say that.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Looks bad though still play, but he he he just
basically showed them by him doing that, he's showing them
I don't fuck with what y'all doing. Yeah, that was
a statement made by him, yes, period, Like, yeah, that
was a statement made Like I want what's his name, Pelinka,

(09:10):
Ron Polinka, I want Rob Polinka, and I want JJ.
I want everybody to understand that I'm not happy with
the situation. You think, listen, everybody in arena heard JJ
yelling Lebron Lebron. Then he calls time out just because
he couldn't get Lebron's attention, and the man still never
looked that way.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Can I show you a question statement? Yah, y'all play
in the league. So how do you guys feel about
that passive aggressive behavior rather than just having the conversation.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Uh, maybe maybe what you got to understand at home?
Like in this league, there's a lot of bullshit that
goes on to a lot of bullshitting from these coaches.
There's a lot of bullshitting from these front office people.
They tell you something, but then another thing happens when
you get out there on the court, and then they
expect us not to react like, oh no, Ray, I'm

(10:04):
gonna play you tonight like you're good like And then
I'm sitting over there the whole time, chilling, no playing time,
nothing said to me, and all right, two minutes left
in the game, we blown somebody else get blown out
on Ray go in the game. That has happened to me.
I'm just saying, like, it's right. See see what Charlie said.

(10:26):
Hell no, I'm not going the game. But there now
there's a narrative that's gonna be created behind that. Oh
he's he's not a good teammate. He's unprofessional. And it's
like you came to me and told me I was
gonna play tonight and I'll get my mind right, myself
prepared going to court and be able to, you know,
fight and help my team. And then you don't either

(10:47):
look my way, and then the last two minutes of
the game, you're gonna say, hey, going the game.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Fuck you?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So you guys, I say, no, they're going into the game.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I've done it before. Really, yeah, I have done it before.
Are But I also, nothing good comes out of saying
though it doesn't. That's all ego. That's all ego, and
that's nothing good comes out of that because then they
just look at you as an issue.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
I truly don't understand how you think it will work.
I don't understand as a basketball as basketball front office junkies,
you watch the game, how do you think this is
a championship level unit? You if you simply evaluate this,

(11:34):
there's no way you think it can work. You know
that there is a push and pull thing when it
comes to stars, right, you got a star in Luca,
you got a rising star in ar and you got
Lebron James is one of the greatest players to ever play.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Did you see JJ at the time out was he mad?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
No? But it puts him in a tough position.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I think.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, because of who he was. But if that Lebron James,
you can't sit them, can't you can't do anything position.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
You're holding them by the balls.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Now you can sit them, you just won't be pretty
for you.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
You can't sit Lebron Jail. You can, just you can.
It's just you don't want to fight that.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Battle, exactly. You don't want to fight the battle.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
So so you can't. Keep saying you can't. No you can, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no no.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
You're answering my question. You keep saying you can, but
you can't know. I'm telling you you can't.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
JJ can bench him, he just chose not to.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
You can't bench him.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I think you can, but you can't. Yes, I would
if I was J.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
And then you would be sitting right back on the
What would you have done? You were the coach the podcast?
Are you? I'm not benching them.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
You're not mentioning, say were the same age, JJ, all
of the same class.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Whatever?

Speaker 5 (12:50):
You not not in that moment, not read.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Then and not I'm having a conversation for the world.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
But after that motherfucking game and leb cut to my office, bro, Like,
at the end of the day, it's a level of
respect that we got to have for each other. What
I'm saying, you just totally disrespected me in front of everybody.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
You tell me me like, yeah, for sure, and that's tough.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Like now, seriously, we gotta have a man the man conversation,
like like my nigga, like, I'm gonna be professional because
you have to be, you know, and you know sometimes
you know, you get mad and you be like you
you act on impulse, but you have to really calm
yourself down. Because JJ I think he handled that right.
He was mad as hell. You could see him fired
up and he was like throwing his hands at Lebron

(13:33):
like man, shit, fuck it. But then deep down is like, man,
you look like you have no hold of this fucking team.
So no, I get that that's what it looks like
to the whole but as professionals or as a person
in that position, you can't give a fuck what what
the eye look like, what that thinks about. You gotta
go after that game. I'm no, seriously, I wouldn't even

(13:55):
go in the fucking locker room and talk to the team.
I'm not talking to nobody at Lebron, come on, so
me and you since the coaches y'all handling that, talk
to them, whatever, practice tomorrow, whatever, I'm giving a fuck,
I'm hailing this ship.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
So what I want to talk to you is if
you don't address it there, do you lose respect of
the locker room because you guys said that's big. You
need to have you because.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
There's other players are watching like then y'all seen that.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah, but they know that if Lebron and JJ is
not in the fucking locker room, that ship is getting handled.
You know what I mean, some ship that don't need
to be done in front of the whole team. You
know what I'm saying, because the ship probably gonna get
a little heated. So you definitely don't want that either,
JJ and Lebron yelling in front of the.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
The conversation is gonna be yeah, you like, motherfucker. You
got me just sitting in the corner like shit, right,
that is my That's the only thing I said about
it not working. You're asking Lebron James to run corner
to corner.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
So hearing RAYO, I wouldn't mention in that moment. You know,
if I get right respect back, because you guys made
it very clear to me for coaches to respect, it's over. Listen,
but you gotta address at some point.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
You can't.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
You can't show favoriteisms in some situations. But it's just
some situations where it's like some people you you gotta
handle differently, and that's just what it is. You're not
handling Lebron James like that.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
You know how many times we've been in we wouldn't
do that. We was in the mean, looka fu up
and somebody else got custed out. That happens all the time.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
That there's no traditional old school coaches because fucking Pop
Pop would have gave a fuck.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Larry Brown would have gave a fuck.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I've seen it. That's not that that's.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yes, that's just what it is.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
I feel that if I go over there, but I
heard out of my ears Pop I'm talking about smash
dragged Tim Dunk.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
But that's what I'm saying. That the best coaches you
hear both will call O anybody on those.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yes, I hear you.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
But at the same time, if you're transparent about that,
if somebody, if I'm coaching the Lakers, Bron's gone and
this is the team you coming in. You're coming to
play with ar and Luca. When you when I'm picking
you up, you know your role. Listen, you're gonna to
pick up a little bit extra. When l D's on
the court, well, you know, sometimes he ain't gonna do something.

(16:25):
But that's why I'm paying you. That's why I'm bringing
you here. You do what I gotta do. You get
your payday. He told Dawrian Finney Smith that j Kidd
talked though I'm gonna get you paid. Let me let
you know how you come. You guard the fuck out
of the best player you cover for l D. You
gonna get paid. Guess what happened. He got paid before

(16:47):
the year was even over. Spencer, you do your job,
you gonna get paid. JB. L D's out, go get it.
When l D's off the floor, we know LD going
big in the first quarter. You gotta be patient. This
is a transparency that I've heard from Jay Kidd. Ha

(17:08):
changed my whole perspective on everything. You know, l D
goes big in the first quarter. What he do the
other night gets Phoenix LD always goes big in the
first quarter.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I'm not done. I'm done with him today. You know
what type of time I'm in. I'm on.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
He's doing a lot of points saying damn thing, bro
what I say?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I'm just anyways, listen, anybody got anything off the topic?
I want to.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Very concerning he's done, He's done with them?

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, at forty one, at this point in your career,
you're like, fuck it, I don't given funk about this ship.
Lebron like cares.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
No, he cares. You think so.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
He cares because as long as he putting that jersey
on is still part of his legacy.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
You know home to me.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
That'd be crazy too. But to me three of the season,
legacy has already made. But he's still playing, so he's
still trying to do certain things within his legacy. So,
like he cares, But.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
There's nothing he could do that's gonna make him like
put him over MJ.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
No, No, I don't think there's there's nothing he.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Can do that's gonna put him over anyone else.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yes, when he have to win seven and that's not
happening even.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Like he has four right, five.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
He's got four him and stuff. I tried for four.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
He's not. They gotta figure it out. You gotta figure
it out though.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Cool, All right, listen, let me let's do some shout outs.
Obviously Oasis the calf.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
I mean to cut you off, but I just saw
a question. Somebody said, what I let that happen in
the AAU listen AU in NBA basketball, two different things.
We can't compare that. No, I would fuck it wouldn't.
I'll give a if it's no one play in the country.
He did that ship to me, sit your motherfucking ass down,
or you can go with your mom and daddy right
now middle of the game. That's why I would have

(19:05):
handled dad. But this I'm a grown man. That's a kid,
he's a two grown man. This is professional basketball. So
you gotta handle things a little differently. Ain't nobody scared
of Lebron? I'm not, and I don't really think JJ is.
You know what I'm saying. But you know, some things
you gotta handle differently in certain situations.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's just that's how that's how I think.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I mean, that's right on money, right, grown man, versus
a young man.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Yeah, kids like kidding who you are, litle nigga hold on, Yeah,
but I'm just saying, though, damn with you the number
one playing the country, that you are about to disrespect
me like that, I'm trying to coach you.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's a fact, hey Man.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Also first first shadow, we all shout out to Peter
Peter's birthday on Monday. Shot Peter makes she also love Peter.
I know everybody shows love to Peter in the chat,
makes she also a happy birthday to Peter. Shout out Peter, Peter.
He turns off, hitting his back half of his twenties.
He feels like he's old now twenty six, twenty six
now shout the people, baby baby, I thought Peter was

(20:06):
old as hell.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
He oh he do, look a little shave every night
to stay. Ye you got a nice cut. Pete, come
out here, show um some love. He starting people the people.
People can see you, letting people see you. Yeah, Pee,
everybody say happy birthday to Peter.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Ye Nika Pete cut cheers after tequila.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Kurt always listened. Grip loves a fucking clown. Horn bro,
It's crazy. Listen, get some shout out. Shout to Macho James,
how's the parlay's looking, my boy? But make sure you
tapping with Cawshi Man's prom cobaja walking with Calshi. Shout
to Alvin zero eight one nine eight eight bits together,
Macho Yeah. Shout to Burton. Shout to Bucket Panda, we

(20:58):
see big big banking the bell be Ralph, We see you,
Patty League. Shout to La La what oh you have
the camera? Shoot the camera. Shout to Shane. Shane deals
on demon time. You're about to find out in two minutes, bro,
and we go about to go to Chris Paul. You're

(21:19):
about to find out, yo. Shout to Mike T. We
see you, Mike T. Burton, I don't give this too
much to deal with it. Shout out the Star Star,
we see you. You ain't as crazy today, but shout to
you Star. Off my back, all right, Grace is always here.
Shout your lifestyle King be on the wall. We see you.
I think you were here yesterdays. Well appreciate you tapping back.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
In y We need a deal crash out meter.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I like that, we do need one for sure.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Talk to the higher up and.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Then a big shotow the out of pocket variety shows
always here. Sorry, let me just I wanna ge a
big shout to the out of pocket rity shot. I
don't usally show you, but you're usually hear so shout
to you as well, shouting Justseph Robinson. All right, deal,
it's your time to play.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Tell them what happened?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Oh yeah, I mean Chris Paul was cut in the
middle of the night. Basically not cut. Sorry, he was
set home. He's still getting paid. Make that very clear.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
That is wild.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
The Clippers are sending him home for some reason. Chris
posts on socials, let's actually run the time. Uh sorry,
lou will clip first. I don't think Tyler, let's run.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
From what I gathered that that brought him in to
this abruptly was there was a few scenarios, and you know,
with CP was was holding people accountable from you know,
from players to to to staff, from coaching staff up
to the front office. And you know, from what I understand,

(22:49):
there was a situation where he even addressed the team
and apologized and said, look, my criticisms are coming from
a good place. I want us to be a good team.
I want us to get this thing right. And he
was just holding guys accountable. Now how how you know
some of that talk was taken or interpreted. That's up
for the for the players in the in the coaching

(23:11):
staff that was involved in and how they felt about it.
And then down the line, there was another scenario where
you know, he was he was critical of front office
as well, and I think that was the one that
broke the camel's back. That was the straw that broke
the camel's back when he had, you know, some criticisms
for the front office as well. I think that's what

(23:31):
brought this to a head. In the early hours in Atlanta,
Like I said, I'm in Atlanta, the Clippers are in Atlanta.
It was about, you know, three something in the morning.
For whatever reason, I was up, but I was up
and and and that was that's that's what I was understood,
you know. But for a player who's gonna go down
as a Hall of Famer, for somebody who's gonna, you know,

(23:52):
possibly have the opportunity to be the first Jersey retire
and the raptors over there at the end to a
doman and be the first to represent live city and
be the first person to represent the Clippers in that manner.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
This is just a sour way to go out.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
It looks bad on on on on the Clippers part.
To do this in the in the late night hours.
It looks bad for Chris Paul. It looks bad for
all parties involved.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
We ship do look bad. Go ahead, oh ship, they
should look bad on all parties.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
I think this is a whole ass move from the Clippers. Uh,
it's flat out disrespect drop it. It's flat out embarrassing
on their part. Organization is a piece of ship trumping.
Lawrence Frank fuck them disappointed as ship in you. Uh,

(24:57):
you don't do that to somebody who's a first ballot
a Hall of Famer. The biggest problem is y'all don't
get held accountable for shit in the first place.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Drop it.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
You sat there and you made a huge trade. Kawhi,
Leonard Paul, George, James Harden. You've had some of the
best teams and ain't done ship drop it. Chris Paul
might be the first player in Clipper history to get
his jersey retired and you treat him like this.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Fuck you.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
Also, you did a huge press conference welcome Chris back,
understanding this is something that he just he just announced
that he's retiring.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
This is it, and.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
You're gonna do him dirty in the middle of the
night and send him home bright. It's flat out disrespect.
They should be held accountable, Lawrence Frank, you should be
fucking gone, be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
He ain't done ship since you've been there.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Time has he hooped before? Exactly? Don't know what the
fuck you're doing. I think they I think they deserve
for OKC to get their pick. I hope they lose
the rest of the damn season. Everybody should go, in
my opinion, everybody should go. You don't do that to
a Hall of Famer. You don't do that to somebody
who's given so much to the game. You don't do

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that to somebody who is trying. Chris Paul has held
every single organization accountable. It doesn't matter what organization's been
in Spurs, Sons, OKC, Clippers, Houston. He's been the same
player every place he's been. But now because you're losing
and you can't handle it, and you're gonna blame Chris Paul,

(26:36):
bullshit gotta go long time. I am absolutely livid about
it because it doesn't make any sense. You can stop
to eat the beat shit. It makes zero sense. How
you treat somebody. Where's the human factor and showing absolute
respect to somebody who's been great for so long.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
It makes no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
That's what's missing in the NBA because people are getting
treated like shit. You treat Chris Paul like shit, You
treat everybody like shit. There's so many.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Great players that are pretty much kick that.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Like the way Mellow got treated on the way out,
the way Chris Is got treated on the on the
way out, even even like y'all two, it's not the
right way. You treat everybody like they fucking normal, bro,
like this, This is embarrassing to Chris Paul.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
This ain't how you're supposed to send Chris Paul out.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
Thank you for everything you've done for the NBA. That's
fucked up. The Clippers is a ship organization. This ship
will always be second to the Lakers. Shit fucking corny, bro,
And I can't, I can't. I can't condone shit like that.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Bro. You don't talk to Chris Ford.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
You don't talk to him, tlue, you don't talk to
him when he's out the line up, you don't talk
go talk to him like he's a vet. You never
you haven't talked to him for a couple of weeks.
Why you're scared to talk to a man? Were you
scared to talk to a man?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
CV? Absolutely no, I don't think what's the issue.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
And my problem is we we gave respect because you're
as a former player, we take we took some of
that seriously. We always want a transparency and the fact
that he doesn't get that, the fact that the president
of the PA can't get the proper respect of just
the conversation, it's plat out disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Dog.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
You could do that to the fifteen. You can do
that to THEO Pensy. I ain't this shit. A first
ballot Hall of Famer gets waved in the middle of
the night.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's insane. That's what was.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Right. And it's sad to see organization that you know
once you lose and you start to see their real character, right,
the true character is they got to point the finger.
They play the blame game and Chris Paul out of
the guy's averaging like two points a game. He's not
even playing even playing like that is the guy that

(29:14):
we're gonna owe. He's a distractions. The narrative, the narrative
of you know, the perception that he's being a distraction
in the locker room, because that's what I see, that's
what I get out of it.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
It's bullshit. You get cut because you holding people accountable.
You want four fucking games, somebody gotta get held accountable.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
My fault. They won five games.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
You were we were talking about the Clippers being competing
to win the West and their ass.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Well, that's one of the reasons why CP went back there,
because it's an opportunity to maybe play for something. Yeah,
finished career with a team that family, but he did
a lot and his family there in l A.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
The level of disrespect and the way they handle this
is absurd, Like, I'm with you on that for what
Chris Paul has done for the game.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
And you know, the league don't give a fuck about
that ship, don't They don't. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
We know firsthand they don't give a fuck about nothing.
They gonna do the way they want to do it.
They're gonna handle ship how they want to handle it,
and they expect you to just take it.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
So I want to say not the league, teams, organizations.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yes, So.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
I don't know, man, like CP is a guy everybody
knows him. He's outspoken, respected, Yeah, he's respected, he's outspoken.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
He gon he's a competitor, and play with him. He's
a competitor.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
And even with a guy that that's not even playing
that much, he still cares about winning. So for him
to hold accountable these guys, it's just not what the
league is trying to do now. And we talk about
this all the time. That's why they're getting rid of
e vents. That's why they're getting rid of guys our
age early, like y'all before, we really want to leave

(31:08):
the league because they don't want us to do stuff
like this. They don't want us to hold organizations accountable
accountable because young guys can't go talk to the front
office like we can if we've been to lead fourteen
fifteen plus years, we can go there and sit in
an office. Look, man, hey, we need to make some changes.
We need to do this differently, We need to start
doing this more. They don't want to hear that because

(31:28):
it's a power thing and they feel like, oh CP
got too much power, oh CP whatever, And it's bullshit.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
If you're sitting if you ray, this is the the
Clippers are so fucking stupid. If you're sitting there and
you want to put out a report that Chris Paul
was holding people accountable, what is the first thing every
NBA player is gonna say, duh, that's what he is.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
That's who Chris Paul is. You didn't know that when
you got them. They know that. What the what do
you talk about?

Speaker 6 (32:02):
That's your That's why you let him go, because you
held your team won five games. He came back in
a he said, listen, maybe how I'm coming off is
the wrong way. He came to the team and I
know I got sources. Came back and apologize to say, listen,

(32:25):
I apologize if I came off the wrong way.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I really think we can be a good team. I do.
I just want us to be great.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Everyone knows that Chris has been a winner everywhere he's been.
You're cutting somebody who is understanding the talentness in the
room and it's not happening.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Why should he be okay with that? You want Chris
Paul to change? Now in year twenty and last year, dog,
you look fucking stupid.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
I'll say this too. Like with organizings, at the end
of the day, Chris Paul is an employee. You kind
of have to fall in line, right the people in power,
they look at that's the way. That's what I'm saying.
That's how they looking at it. They're looking at it. Bro,
you ain't gonna be talking crazy, and the fucking you

(33:17):
ain't gonna be doing this at the end of the day.
These people in the position, the front office position, have
the power to do what they want. And it's an
ego thing. And you ain't gonna talk to me crazy.
I run this ship.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Shit your ass down, send your ass home. But that's
why that you're thirty years in the league. I know that,
But that's why I said what I said, Like they don't.
It's a power Thingaire Probably.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
If he's talking to him crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
We don't know if he did or didn't. But if
he did, man, that's gonna end.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Well.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I guarantee you has nothing to do with with Steve.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
I don't think so, because one thing I know about him,
he I think he do whatever he has to do
right for the team.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean I played.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
Yeah, he does whatever you have to do for his players,
for the organization, whatever. He's an open checkbook to what
we need to win. I know that he ain't tripping
about Chris.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, somebody Lauren Frank's little little boy syndrome.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Damn boy? Who needed.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
I said this before this shit didn't eve happen. Lawrence
Frank got a fucking go. You fire Nico who been
to the fucking finals, but you won't fire Lawrence Frank
not winning ass.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
He clearly don't know what the funk he doing. He
needs to fucking go drop a clown. He's a clown,
straight clown.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
So you know, he was a manager of the Hoosiers
university team. That's where his basketball starts started. Who Indiana Universities?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Lawrence clown Frank.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
He was from the coach.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Fuck him by the way, that's your coach.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
He was, y'all lost, absolutely sorry.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
He thought he was a great GM. Where the funk
he wins?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
We hate to cut it off, but we five a
weight right now.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Where where I got got a bottle? We got some
ship going on today.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Can't give a shut up?

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Are you listen?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Man?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
This ship the disrespect has to stop, you know because
as as a as a former athlete, the ship that
our bodies have to go through on a nightly basis
the things that we have to sacrifice. Like I know,
everybody look at it, like, oh, y'all guys make all
this money and all this ship. Yeah, we do because

(35:51):
we earn it. We take our body to a lot
of ship and we deal with a lot of stuff
that that that y'all don't even know about.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
So, but whatever.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
The level of respect man for for us as athletes
sometimes is is starting to get at an all time high.
Of the ship that's going on in this league, the
ship that these organized some of these not all, some
of these organizations are doing to guys and this ship.
Like THEO said this, somebody needs to be held accountable.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
You're gonna paint this, Chris Paul, You're gonna paint this
picture all at the end of his funk, all that business, ship,
all that at the end of the day when you
got guys who who has gotten the league where it
is now? With Shaye Trey Winby Cooper flag get to
eat off of c P three is part of that.
Who's grew this ship? You know he was ahead of

(36:46):
the fucking n B P A C. You don't do
ship like that to Lebron James Carmelo Anthony Chris, Paul
Dawayne Wade. You don't do that ship to those guys, bro, Nah,
these dudes is like, these dudes are guys who's in
these meetings fighting for us to do.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Y'all know MJ couldn't finish his career in the bulls
Edigar Washington, Yeah, what's that saying?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Come on, give the.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Bro and you saw the interview. What the fuck that
GM said?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Exactly? The motherfucker thought he said. He thought it was
him was popping.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Was like it's an ego thing you get so much
in their life, like they're the ones out there hooping.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I think it is a combination of both. Though you
guys sere with bad organizations you can't win as well,
So this is a combination of both.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Let's the league has done certain guys, right, I mean
certain organization Dallas for instance, Dark fucking did amazing with them.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
But that's Cuban bro.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
No, but that's what I'm talkinghip and good front office
to win as well, Like it just can't be one
of the other You guys know that, you I'm sure right.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
The worst part is it was if it was with
any other fucking team, they don't have the same effect.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
He didn't have the same effect, like if it went.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
With the Spurs.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
First of all, the Spurs wouldn't even do something like that.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
If it was with the Wizards, there's some ship the
Wizards do. If it was with the Kings, and some
ship the Kings would do. This man has a chance
to have his fucking jersey retired with the Clippers. Lawn
Frank's Lawrence Frank. This is above you, t Lou. This
is above you. We're not fucking retiring t Lou. We're
not retiring fucking Lawrence Frank. This is he He's It's

(38:21):
absolutely disrespectful, bro, It's absolutely disrespectful because it is. I
don't care if you don't like him. You don't like
him because he was great. You ain't doing something right.
They're not talking about you. Chris Paul is getting talked
about right now because what he's done in this league.
You don't treat somebody like that like that, You don't

(38:43):
do it.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
It's fucked up.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
He is part of He is part of the crew
that has elevated the NBA to where it is today.
You can sit here as much as you think Chris
Paul is an asshole, but he's a winner and he's
done a lot for this league.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
He is veiled the Trey Youngs. Everybody that.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Is I can't even it predominantly comes back to its ultimately,
because the Clippers are losing. Bro, the Clippers are winning.
We're not having this discussion.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
It's the front office, the ego.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
That's what it is. That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
It's sensitive and probably Chris Paul called them out. Hold
them accountable. Nah, bro, it's a pecan order how this
ship works. Then in the day, you are an employee.
Yes I'm an employee, but I'm above you. So you
know what, go home. But guess what I went to lunch.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
I went to dinner with Chris before they played the
before they played the mass Chris waking up at nine am,
get it to the gym before everybody else to get
his work out in because he.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Know he not in the lineup.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
He's doing all the vet ship to show the younger guys,
this is what you. Chris has never been his position
in his life. He's still doing on this stay in
shape now. You treat him like this bullshit, absolutely crazy
bullshit to try to create a narrative.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
That's what it is on his way out. Don't do that.
I'm like that. I'm totally with you on that bullshit, Like,
don't do that. Don't don't try to discredit this man
whole entire career off his last year when he clearly
stated I'm done, like I'm retiring after this year. So
don't try to create like he's a bad, bad leader

(40:27):
or bad you know, locker room guy, because that's that's not.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
What it is.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Now you can focus on off the Court of Ventures
and focus on being Cliff Paul to stay farm ship.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
All right, too soon? Too soon? Bro? All Right, man,
y'all got anything else on CP man, I'm on a
hell of a career career, another team this year.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
I do think well, I mean, I mean he I
mean he probably he wants his farewell tour, Bro, I
would love that for him.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
You think it's too late that that ship already left.
That's what he wanted, That's what he was probably gonna
get because they're losing him. No, nobody's gonna take Chris Paul.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Or not pick him up.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
Houston might go get him, Okay, might go get him
just to put him on the You pick him up
and he don't play.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Because remember, the league is about narratives and about perception.
Perception is we just sent Chris Paul home because he's
a fucking headache.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
He's causing problems all these dudes talk.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Bro, Charlie, you don't think longan is Frank Charlie.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Doing Chris like that other than the Lord Frank's little syndrome.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Man, Charlie, you know what's different, though, Charlie. You want
to know what's different. Everybody knows that's Chris Paul. Chris.
They're sending Chris Paul home for being Chris Paul. Okay,
she knows what they get with Chris Paul. So does Houston.
He was there.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
They know what they I don't see nobody. I don't
see Chris Paul being a difference maker on anybody's team
right now.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
You don't. He can go help a young guard right now, Chris,
we need you.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
To come mentor he can go help.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
That's all he's saying.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
The last year, this last year, let him be on
the on the of the You don't think nobody can.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Use Lawrence Frank do something to you, Huh, Frank, somebody.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
I've said before this happened. I said, Lawrence Frank should
go I wrong, you did, I said, I said that
a long time ago. Why does Laurd Frank still have
a job. What has he done that's been right?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Can he can he not go help Ryan Rawlins and
the Bucks?

Speaker 6 (42:36):
Can he not come help to the Dallas Mavericks and
now you point guards?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Help the Aptors. There's a long teams. He can help, Bro,
you tell me you take one of the greatest pointers
all the time. He can't help develop young players.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
He can help.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
But again, the league is based off narratives and fucking perception.
The whole point perception becomes reality. The whole point of
him being in la though, and if for a farewell tour, No,
he did it to be closer to his family.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
That too, but he wanted to be closer to his family. Bro,
his family lives in l A.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
He was close to him.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Now he was in he was in San Antonio. He
was in San Antonio. Think his family was in l A.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
It doesn't get any closer than that. Well, No, he's
definitely there now for the guy, he ain't still getting paid.
He's there full time. Yeah, but still though about the money.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Ain't buy the money they did him dirty like this
is this is I love CV to death.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
If that happens to CV, he's gonna grow hair and
cut it off again and fucking lose his mind.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I can't go on hair, bro, But you're gonna find
a way.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
You know, around my fight launch Frank if that if
you got a career like Chris and you give right right,
if you had a career like Chris Paul first ballot,
Hall of Fame, do you dirty? Like you right? You're
spazzing not to put me in that's situation now.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
But they did it at three am. It's they're not
gonna let you come in the gym and then tell you.
They're gonna tell you before you even wake up till
I'm sleep when you sleep, so you don't have the
time to go to the ship.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
That's crazy. That's the teacher.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
That's a motive there. That's grimmy, that's grimy. I'm pulling up,
pulling up, but your key card on work?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
You got there there on the road. They're in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
I gotta see you. Let's have a conversation, me, me
and a lobby.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Wait that happened in Atlanta? In Atlanta? Oh so he
gotta get on the team flight. No, he taking it.

Speaker 6 (44:38):
They better, they better give me a PJ back to
the crib on y'all on Bomber, Nigga on Bomber, give
me a PJ back and Grimy, that's an awkward ship
back on the flight. Hey, I love my I love
my girl. I'm going straight to goddam Club second floor.
Sack can float women, Lemon Peppa, you understand me. And

(45:01):
I'm getting Lauren Frank punching bags. I'm beating the ship
out of him.

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Speaker 3 (46:15):
And cheers, guys, shout out the cheers and Chris Paul
five forty five, the amazing career. Get your bottle, bro
oh NBA, young boy tied right now, Calm down, come down.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
I don't like that. First of all, that's family. So
if you can't tell, I'm I'm on that time. You
don't do family.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
So you guys don't know. You don't play for YouTube, Bro.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
You play for YouTube. Yeah, that's family. So i'm i'm
I'm I'm on that time. You on one right now?

Speaker 3 (46:45):
I heard they got the gloves sching on back.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, bro, I don't know. Also drunk, that's how mad
I am. Also, I've been drinking at the bottle. Big news, guys,
you ready?

Speaker 1 (46:56):
What's the big news?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Brian Whin who has reported that the Honest requested the
trade at the beginning of the season. Who Brian Horse
reported that NICs requested the trade at the beginning of
the season.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
They're not gonna give it to him and end of
this season he'll get on for sure.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
They have to. So he requested the trade, but they
didn't honor it.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
So this is exactly from Legion Hoops. Legion Hoops shout
to Jacob my boy report. Brian Windhorse reveals Janice already
asked for trade from the Bucks before the season started
via Yespi.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Well he requested again in a couple of days. Could
they suck? Not a good basketball team? He requested it already.
If he requested it, then he's gonna request it now
because they are not going to come at these I
said it before. It's the same team unless to make
some moves. What moves, bro, whether they're not winning nothing.

(47:50):
Chris Paul, He's home.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Here you go.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Chris Paul can't help Milwaukee. No, I think can you
say that you.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Just said he could No.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I don't think they can help him be out the West,
I mean the East. But I think he can help them. You,
Chris can help them. Milwaukee can run Rawlings and them.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I just want to see him go somewhere where he
can possibly give him a ring. I like it, Chris Paul.
If I'm Chris, I'm going to Dallas, I'm going to Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah, he got a ring r Phoenix like he got
the ring. Don't come home, don't come to the fucking arena.
That's the ring he got.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I mean, chat, they're one and five without him, in
the ninety eight with him, so they ain't too bad
without him. With him, they him five hundred with him.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Why is this team five hundred?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I mean they don't have a great team. They need
one more piece they I don't think they're one more
piece away, bro, I think away for making Milwaukee's done.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Dog.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
They had a run. They shouldn't even won that one.
If they shouldn't even won that one, they lucky KD
bad ass foot you wear eighteen.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
I mean, there's lucky involved in championships.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Agreed, Agreed, they fired buzz right after that year with
the same team. Why because they wasn't really that team. No,
I hear that.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
At the end of the day, Joannis needs to go
somewhere else. Lawrence Frank Corny as ship in the Clippers shop.
Back to Lawrence Frank, Oh, I mentioned them marry segment.
Hey man, let me let me make a statement real
quick man. One of the NBA man Eldon Campbell. Man

(49:22):
just saw that last night the middle of the night.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
It was a dude.

Speaker 7 (49:25):
He was.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
I was definitely a solid, solid center that played in
this game. I don't know what happened to him.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
You know. Prayers go out to his family and loved ones.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Prayers out to his family. Man rushing piece Allen came
in peace Campbell. Let's get to uh, let's get to
the Boston Celtics versus the Knicks. Boy JB was hooping
Peter run the clips.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Please JB on demon time.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, do you I want my own team? Ifrom JB
just saying I already want.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
No, no no.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Jaylen Brown is between Giannis, Anthony Edwards, and.

Speaker 6 (50:13):
Don Jaylen Brown is one of my top five top
six favorite players in the league to watch.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I just love the way, just do the way.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
He doesn't both ends of the floor. Every single night,
he's at your neck. I just love his game. I'm
gonna be honest with you, and he wants smoke every
time he comes out there. I'll tell you a little
story when I hosted JB on his visit to Carolina,
and all this dude wanted to do was play me
one on one, And I.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Was like, why do you want to play me one
on one? So bad?

Speaker 6 (50:45):
That's all he wanted to do. He just wants to
hoop and he just loves the game of basketball. He
goes at it and he takes it serious. And Uh,
I said it. I think Boston can win the East
if they make a move. If let's say, Giannis goes
to Boston. Oh my god, my god, for who?

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Huh?

Speaker 7 (51:07):
Who?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
You want?

Speaker 1 (51:08):
What you want? You have to give up j B
or j T.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
No, you don't do the rest of the team. You're
not gonna have no bitch'na.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
They're already a little light. And don't give up everybody ship.

Speaker 6 (51:24):
I love JB's game though, dropping forty two last night
against the Knicks. Uh, he needs to get way more
respect than he does. He's playing like an Eastern Conference
starter right now, shooting the ball at a high clip.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
The Boston self is right there. What they ranked in
the East right now? Their their eighth, the.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Other eighth, they're twelve or nine. It's right there if
you see they.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
I think there are a couple of games out of
being a little higher though.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, I mean, listen, the East is pretty tight.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
The East is tight, so like and they and they
have beat good teams to pass. They beat the Knicks
last night, then they beat the cat ass lost to
the Timberwolves before, beat the Pistons, beat the Magic and
those are good teams. And we weren't expecting them to
be really here, truthfully, and now they're out here balling

(52:15):
the way they are. You got to give credit to
what credits do Joe Mizula is coaching his ass off.
Shout out to my twin.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
They say he looks like a team move I saw.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
That's hilarious. Shout out my twin. Yeah, Jordan walsh'salling.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
They say, Jordan Walsh is like a team. You want
to get back to JB. I just want to give
a shout out to Club five to twenty man. They
break they broke some news the first podcast with a
sneaker deal. They're with Adidas. Shout out to.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
You, thank you?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
What shout? The five twenty three might signals we got
it out, get it, let's get it. So yeah, let
me ask you guys this stay farmed with and I
listen you guys know I like an anti deal. We're
going to do a show in China.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, what's up? I'm with that. I'm with that.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
We go to Japan with that, not Japan. I just
said Japan.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Just get on.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Oknam. But Peter's just time. What are the Celtics need
to make a run because obviously JT. A lot of
people said j T will be back this year. We've
quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
You need to come back.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
What is it the bonus? Then you go get a
big what moves are we think that they should.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Make bus bonus? Anthony Davis?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
I think the bonus is cheaper.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Yeah, I wouldn't go after Anthony days.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
And he's healthy most of the time.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Go with the bonus. You probably have to get rid
of d White. Derek White and gotta get rid of
someone else can make that happen. But they need a
big But in the situation they need.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Derek White hasn't been consistent. I haven't really watched too much.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
So can't get rid of Derek, can't get rid of
the right. He's a glue guy. No, I know that.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
But has he had a good year?

Speaker 6 (54:13):
I mean it's been decent, But you know, just because
of the year ain't good. You still know he can
he can turn that corner and he's still he's still
a winner. He can turn that corner at any point.
You want some bonus, and he ain't good defensively, what
is the bonus? One?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
You take the bonus over ad. I take bonus.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I think what I think? It's just what you have
to give up for.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
He's cheaper, right, he's cheaper.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I don't want to give up too much.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
You have the bonus cheaper than a D. If a
d's injury prone, you're talking about money wise.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
No, I don't think you have to give up as much.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
You don't have to give up as much. Yeah, that's
what That's what I'm saying too.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
Yeah, so you're saying you said earlier that you don't
a lot of people don't want a D because he's
injury prone. Right, Why do you think they're asking price
to be high then, so feel you know, that's a
great point.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
But I think where the difference is that the MAVs
still want a certain amount for Ad regardless of what
his prices, So they're gonna le him play until he
gets his value back up. You're not just gonna let
him go yourself on under contract for a little bit
so versus what you can get right now, versus what
you can get if he plays well, So bonus will
all be always be valued lower.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Than a D.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
I mean, I guess you got to get somebody, but.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
And Sacramento's on a fire sale, as we talked about.
So you give us some picks, maybe give up Anthony.
You might get it done.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
You know, there's not much you might be right about that.
You might have some picks and a little point guard
might help.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, you might get that done. I'm just saying Bird's
little point guard back. Get you get Simon's back. Obviously,
you're moving on from You're probably gonna move on from
Russ after this year, although I don't think that's right.
Russ has been great. You're gonna move on from Zach.
You probably move on from tomorrow. You start with Simon's
you know, you built. So that's kind of my thoughts.

(56:04):
Let's get to this. The Knicks uh twelve. So here's
some contexts. I feel like I can speak for myself.
I don't know if the Knicks are really out much
better this year. Race said they obviously have to find
an identity earlier. Maybe they have found that identity. But
for some context is they're twelve and eight last year.
They're thirteen and seven right now, so the records are similar.

(56:24):
After twenty games there they were ranked third offensively this
year on offensive rating now they're fifth, sorry their fifth
last year, third this year, and defensively they're fourteenth versus
thirteenth last year, so they're relatively when you put in
perspective similar stat wise, What did you guys see from
the Knicks last night?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
They need?

Speaker 5 (56:47):
I wouldn't say that they missed something. Though they missed something,
wouldn't they need? And you know that's my squad. You
know what I'm saying, because I got then, I got
the Kiff and Kiff they need O G I didn't.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
I didn't take that's all black. Yeah, you got the
New York Knicks kids, Ki, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Shout out to Kiff. Can we get a Kiff to you?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Fine? You know, I think they're trying to do something
out here in Dallas too. We know they are here
the shore already here.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, I think it just opened.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I have racked up in there.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
I saw you on a little social something life took me. Yeah,
it's only your social life took me out. Why you
tell me the pastile? It's on socials, bros, on socials.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
What's up with you?

Speaker 7 (57:28):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Put sauce my sauce. I'm good, sorry, right, go ahead?
He cut you off abruptly.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Yeah, talking about Kiff, Bro.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Yeah, you know, I'm just talking what they were talking
about Kif.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
No, but he was saying, that's his home team, that's
one of his homes.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
We're still missing something, though, O G. That's what you're missing.
Definitely missing, O G. But you G, O G.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Can't stay healthy then, you know, go go over there,
go get that man, that grown man down in Milwaukee.
That'll make up for a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Why are you shut your head?

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Deal?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I agree? I don't.

Speaker 6 (58:06):
I'm just I don't know why we wait until something
gets bad before we go. We realize Jannie is walking
thirty every single night, every night.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
So this dude don't even know he'd be saying sometimes.
He just said no. Now he said every night.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
You said in the past, well, he's not a walking thirty,
so that you shouldn't go get you honest.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
No, this Nick shouldn't go get you honest?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Right now? Why not?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
No?

Speaker 7 (58:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yes, I apologize. Oh, don't wait, I'm confused. I apologize.
Look at the time that we were talking about, uh,
the Nick's getting honest, I didn't think.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
It was the right time. What you're thinking now, listen,
depends what you have to give up. Yeah, I know
what we're gonna give if you get what you mean,
why you're gonna pay me?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Don't mind?

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Is like no, just insanity, bro Okay, I could got
a list on you, bro, school you can't.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
You can what you got from me to me? What
I got for nothing? But why not? Why not?

Speaker 7 (59:11):
What?

Speaker 1 (59:11):
So do you want to to get Yannis?

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Is not no? You just said he's a walking thirty,
he's a thirty, and I said, yes, we don't get
Yannis or no, yeah, doesn't her.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I didn't say no. When did I say no?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
You did talk a lot about chemistry, so you're cool
breaking up that chemistry.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Now, yes, because you got to see a little bit
of what that looked like.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Why is it now? Though? That's why I don't understand.
Why is because you had to wait and see what
he looks like. Nigga, it's the same team. That's the
same thing. I said, But I'm Milwaukee. It's the same.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
No, they added Jordan Clarkston, they added the bench. They
added the bench and added Jordan Clarkson and ye but
selling and who else? No, they added somebody else. Malcolm
Brock he retired. He saw it, which is crazy. He
Sawid before. He's all, ship, we're not gonna.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Be that good crazy. That's my retirement, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
On that note, shout out to Calsi, Peter, I know
you're fixing some cameras when you got up. Can you
pull the Calshi graphic?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Why are we? Why are we not? Why are we
act like? Giannis is not top three in the league,
got five in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
He's top five.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Nobody's not.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
Why was there ever a hesitation on trading for that year?
It doesn't bro If you got a chance to get
a top five player, you got to get that done.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
He's right, he's not wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
But what I'm saying is the Knicks last year played
very well, and you get to add Giannis to that very.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Well five player. My thing is, why break it up?

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
If you saw what they can do, you add a
couple of pieces that added Malcolm Brocken.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
This is the time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
This is before he fucking retired Jordan Clarkston in the
bench because the bench was an issue, and they seem
to answer that call. So it was like, I be patient,
I'm just a little more. Yea quick then yeah, got
quick triggers.

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
You know it's called Giannis out mccoopo brof you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
So you're telling me, let me ask you this. This
is a real question people that you just got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Let me just top five challenge.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
Let me at let me ask him this question. But
the asking price high, I'm giving up O G and cat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
That's not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
How's that the asking price high? I said, that's not bad.
So let me ask you this. Do you think you
get worse with Yannis or better?

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
You for sure get better, bro So what is it
you would think it would get better, You would think
you'd get better.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
I think you would get better. But like Charlie is
trying to say, which he ain't saying much today, Charlie
is saying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
What Charlie is saying is, you gotta see what it
looks like, even with you, even with them getting honest,
He's saying, you gotta see what it looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
So I get what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
Now, you looked like, Now you bust a move when
that opportunity and I get a call. Giannis wants to
be a Nick. So did the Knicks get that call? Yes, no,
they're not reported this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
It was reported that they didn't put up a receiverous
offering artist.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
He said he wanted to be with the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
They entertained it, but it was reported the didn't put
up you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
And now they're looking like, damn should we have They're
still top two team in the East right now, top
three team in the matter of fact, they might finish
number one with the team that they originally. They're not
top three, they're not top three right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Fourth.

Speaker 8 (01:02:33):
By what one game, you're a numbers guy. By one game,
you're a numbers guy. Okay, whenever they played, whenever they
read four, whenever they guy, it's three four.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Charlie, he's trying to argue Lawrence Frank sit right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Wow, Wow, damn, Charlie, I just said your numbers guy
is three four?

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Send me home?

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
You ho his That is crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Send me home.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Fortunately, Bro, you are not an employee employer employee other show.
You are a partner star.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
Let me ask you a question. You think honest and Jalen?
You think Jalen Brust is the second round exit?

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
That's crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
So why did.

Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
Chris Middleton and Giannis work? Do you think Jalen Breston
can't be Chris Middleton?

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Maybe not?

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
So you know, Joannis looked at Chris Middleton to end
the game. Who was the clutch player of the year
last year? All right, okay, so Joannis can carry you
for the first four quarters to the end of the
game and you give the ball to I gotta rebuttal
for that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
See, Chris Middleton was always the number two guy. He
was never a number one guy. That's why it worked.
Now you're asking the number one guy to be a
number two guy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
To you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
Number two guys. Gianni will be the number one guy
that comes that comes there, right, Remember was always the
number one guy. He number one in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
I'm talking about in the knicks bro I'm talking about
done it before.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
He's done it before.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
When you got a talent like that, you adjust got it, got.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
He's done it before. But now they give him the keys.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
You are number one, Kyrie number one when he was
with the Cleveland Cavalet, ain't happening?

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Is happening? Oh my god? The number one when with
the Cleveland ain't happenings? Kyrie number one? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I think so barn got there and then what happened
take a back seat and what they did, what they want. Okay,
so guess what he's willing to accept that role. Kyrie
was willing to accept that role. I don't know if
Jayleen br mind you Jayalen Brush went from the number
two guy number one guy, and I to go back
to the number two guy, It's hard to go back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
I'm willing to spend all the money.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I'm willing to spend it all the money in my
banking I'm wanting to spend all the money in your
bank account.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Because you got talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Your name might be Big Dank.

Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
I'm willing to spend all the money in your bank
account that Jalen Brussell would be happy for Giannis to
come to that team.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
I would ask you this too, right, Charlie, Jalen Brust
has proven to be a winner and do whatever takes
a win. If that's the best chance to win, I
believe taking less money, I believe if he has to
take a little bit of a back seat, I agree,
he would agree.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
I love Cat.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
I think Kat is a very good basketball player. You
got a better chance with Cat or Jannis.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
All Right, honest right, you're right, But is Milwaukee willing
to take Cat and o g If that man you're
want to lose him, he's not going to sign sign extensions.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
That's a great point. Everybody in the chat saying that
that's not enough. If Joannice is I'm not signing extension,
I'm going to the Knicks. They're gonna take what they
can lose him for.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
That would be the worst thing in the franchise history.
They lose that man for nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Christmas.

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
The same reason I hear you have to shop bron
you have to shop Giannis. If you don't, you're gonna
lose them for absolutely nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Sorry. That's why Brunton is definitely top twenty five in
the league. What the fuck are we talking?

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
About tripping you, tripping Jannison Dame didn't work. Dame kept
getting hurt, Dame kept getting hurt. The recipe was a
guy like Chris Middleton who can end the game. If
Dame and y I feel like, if Damon Yanna stayed

(01:06:24):
healthy together long enough, I think if Dame was healthy
right now and they were in the if they were
in both in Milwaukee, I would pick them to come
out the East this year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Can I ask you guys this, since I thought there
was always a problem when you had three stars, if
you have two stars, isn't there enough shots to go around?

Speaker 6 (01:06:41):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
The big three's want to becomes an issue.

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
But this is my thing. That team is built so well.
The Knicks are built so if you lose Og and Cat,
you're still okay. You got Jalen Brunson, you got mchil,
you got Jannis, you got Mitch Robinson, you got Josh Hart,
Jordan Parks scene yea, but Sally, uh, what's your young?

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
What's McBride? That's a great eight. That's a good eight
that can win the East? What are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
I'm with it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Who's the homeboy that's been playing well?

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
You got the white dude, right, and you got's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
The white due who's the white dude looking at it? Yeah?
He was playing too, he played Colon. I'm working with him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
He's probably a fan favorite too. Oh g Cat, let's
do it. You can't pass up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
So you just spoke about winning the East, Peter, can
you be up the graphic shout the colchi used promo cobaja.
These are our picks for winning the East right now.
And you know what surprising, No one picked Cleveland got Boston.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
And that's what's crazy. The disrespect that Cleveland is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
So Field's got Boston, I've got Detroit, and you both
got the Knicks. Ray and Charlie got the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Now, if you put a hundred down on the next
you get three seventy six. Detroit is number one of these.
Why would you guys not pick Detroit? I get five
y the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Boston sh what's Boston?

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Boston's not even in the Boston's I'm going you get
three thousand dollars off.

Speaker 6 (01:08:25):
I'll let you guys know exactly what you know. Pick
Boston because they're going to make a move. I'm going
to pick both both. Who's bothing by New York and Detroit.
Those are two good teams, but we haven't Cleveland. Nobody's
fucking with Cleveland. No, Cleveland's a good regular season team.
This regular season, that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
This is regular season. This is who's gonna win the
Eastern Conference. Like in terms of regular season, they still
not gonna win. All right, you guys know I'm not
bettering on Cleveland. Sorry, I'm not trading on Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Oh, this is regular season? Is I thought this is
like the Eastern Conference and no, this is regular You
got dial Eastern Conference champion.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Yeah, but that's a champion of the right season, like
you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
They gotta say that, Come on, gotta say that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
That's my fault, Hong Kong, that's my fault. Apologies.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Regular season.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
So we're going with.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
I'll probably would go Detroit. They got they got a
big enough lead and the trade is good to you.
I don't I don't, yeah, I don't see them losing
that many times. And they agree because they got two losses.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Four or three four? Two or three four? I think
it's three actually, but let me double check four.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
My nick's gonna win it, man, because they're gonna go
make it more, go get you honest. They got four somewhere. Yeah,
they gotta lose. They gotta lose a lot in the road.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Let us know who y'all got. I'm gonna put in
the put.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
In the vote only Donovan Hayder. I agree, No, for sure,
that's established.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I don't kill don I just don't believe in the
sixth Street Guard. If there's anybody else, I would say the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Same thing, six Street Guard. Would you believe in fucking
Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Because he proved it. I did say I feel if
you could say I said, I don't know if the
words can win this year, because we're talking about unless
Andrew Wiggins is getting to the line. Did I not
say that to you in twenty twenty two when we're
talking I heard you. I mean you talked about him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
I don't remember.

Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
But trying to average thirty though what it's a hard
thirty though you know stiff thirty is hard too because
he's running all over the damn place.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I just think it comes a little bit more effortless.
Though that's not effort in terms of the team. Effortless
opened up for the team. That's a good point. Star
you don't believe in six three guards, but he believes
in Brunson. I didn't say's. I didn't say he's the one.
You have your honest there. I don't think the Knicks
are legit. What did I say last year? I said
the Knicks have no chance.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
The Nicks ain't legit. But we made it to the
was he talkingear?

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
What did I say though? Ray I said, I just
said that Eastern have a chance. Remember I took you
took my money from that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Remember that, how did East did have a chance? And
then they went the seven game?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
But remember I took the bet before we even started
the series. Remember I paid out. Ray I said that
they ain't winning the game. I said, it's a sweet,
it's a mad that you remember that? Though, ray I said,
nobody in the East make it up. I literally said
to all you guys on air, I said that East
will not win the championship. I don't give a damn
who makes.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
It Upham style Gang said, games, that's not how you said.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
You look like homeboy though, yeah, you look like him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Listen, don't listen. If we get the thousand dollars, let's
all do the Gangham so.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I would love to see Ray do the don't I'm
not doing that. You do that, my gen I can't
do that. But gonna be like, I'm not doing that, Nathan,
that hip fuck you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Let's go. So we got Boston, Detroit, Nick's Bigger Sneaky Recess,
John Kyrie six two six two six one, the sixth
Street Guard. But but but but Field believe in those guys.
But but Field to also put it all together. As

(01:12:12):
I've always said, you need one A one B. So
you have Anthony Davison him, but that is a comedy
you need you need another one, you know, Steph, you
need another one. My point is that Don doesn't have
another another number one beside him. He has a number
two is the number three. Steph didn't have another number
one beside him. Jordan Pool's not a number one, Andrewig

(01:12:33):
is not number one. That was my argument with you
the entire time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
What's the averages in that series? Playoff?

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Let's talk about another day. We've talked about this enough.
Let's move on.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Let's move on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Let's move on. But that was my argument the whole time.
That's that's it. Let's talk about. Yeah, we're going to job.
We go to we're going to raise about Jot Pull
damaged Peter one with all three of them. I don't
have that, but we could talk. And an NBA executive
says John Rant is a pain in the ass quote unquote,

(01:13:04):
injury prone and not good anymore, and people around the
league compare him to John Wall and Derek Rose per ESPN.
The combination of pain in the ass, injury prone, not
that good anymore and big contract is a bad one,
said an East executive, who added that he wouldn't want
Morent on his roster regards to salary. Moran is only
twenty six, but some talent evaluators around the league believe

(01:13:26):
that his best years have already passed. Those skeptics compare
Morant to Derek Rose and John Wall, smaller guards who
relied heavily on spectacular athleticism that haves what that was
sapped by injuries shortening their stints at Superstars. By the way,
even though I have a drink, so that's probably the
best one I've ever read, just saying, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
Guys, Ray, this is for Ray. Ray's been a fucking
NBA executive on the East. It's for the fucking Charlotte Hornets.
For the fucking Washington War. Who the fuck it is?

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Somebody win winning a goddamn game, probably lose his damn job.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Or somebody talking ship to try to get him. Could
be somebody talking ship so dirt on his name to
drop his bat.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
Could be could be attacked to, could be attacked. But
listen what he said? What what what was wrong was?

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Don't compare him to break his ship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Don't compare.

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
Don't compare to John Wall either, John, because first of all,
if you say you're comparing them to them too two motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Was great, you're talking about the MVP, what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
But anyway, one on one spread of the flu around
the NBA, right so so.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
But no, man, listen John. Obviously we know John's dealing
with what he's dealing with. He's not playing that well
this year. I can admit that he's not. But to
say that he's not talented no more, Say he's not
good enough, no more. It's just somebody just sitting behind
the disk, just running his goddamn mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
The league is what have you do for me lately? No,
I'm charge.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
I said he's not playing well, and I admit that,
But to say that just because he's not playing well.
He's not good no more. It's fucking crazy. So LaMelo
ain't good no more because talking about this, LaMelo is
not playing that good low key, so he's not supposed
to be in his numbers dropping of course exactly. But
I'm just saying, that's what that That's what that dumb
fuck said though, damn like that's what he said. And

(01:15:25):
I don't even know who it is. I don't know
who who these who this executive is that said that.
I don't even know who he is. But that's stupid,
you know what I'm saying, Like, these guys, we're human.
We're gonna have bad seasons. We're gonna we're gonna have
we're gonna make mistakes, you know what we're gonna do.
And he's twenty six. He can't get out of this.
He ain't thirty six, he's twenty six. So he's having

(01:15:46):
a bad year. He can't get out of it. He's
just not talented no more. He's not good enough no more.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Come on, man, that's time. It's just like that can
move on, that is, get rid of him.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
Trade two three team trade between them three and just
and just put it in a damn pot and to
see who goes where, just long as they don't go
back to the same team him, Trey Young, and LaMelo
put all three of them in the pot. Just see
where they're gonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
So, yeah, they said they have Also they have negative value,
those three How they.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
Have negative value? See that's the ship. That is the
ship that they say like this and the same thing
going on with the CP. It's a ship that these
executives say sometimes and there's no nobody's holding them accountable.
How you get actually come out here and say that
Trey Young, LaMelo Ball and John Moran has no value.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
That's wild.

Speaker 5 (01:16:36):
Come on, bro, that's should I be talking about. And
this ain't even about just Jah, I'm speaking of all
three of them. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
The dumbest thing is crazy. Need them to your team
and they're healthy, they don't have any value to your rosters.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
I think the one that we gotta have. We gotta
start exposing names.

Speaker 6 (01:16:51):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
We need sources.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
We need sources.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
If you're gonna talk like that, they're gonna have to
be sources.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
That's what we get is actually they put our names,
our names on, they put our names on the want
to be on the Eastern conf Yeah, motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Did you did you guys see got killed?

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Yeah? Uh got cooked for got cook?

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
You guys are talking about looks like he don't with
the team.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Oh yeah, the Luca and ship.

Speaker 6 (01:17:22):
Now, like I said, this is the same thing that
goes into uh the CP ship. Uh corny motherfuckers talking crazy.
It is about what have you done for me lately?
But at the same time, these three guys we have
all referred to as uh the next up, the next
big talents in the NBA. Clearly UH Memphis suck, Uh Atlanta.

(01:17:42):
They're playing better without trade, but we all know trades
unbelievable talent. Trala has been bad since LaMelo has been there, and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Now you're now.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
Now he's a problem because shy toy conk nippleslo.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
He ain't gonna make nobody better. I'm gonna fly out
and shay it. He makes any body, he makes the
teams better, He makes anybody, He makes people. He's a
fucking hooper.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
But can't he make your team better? Is the question?
Gotta you gotta You're falling.

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
You're falling in into the trap of a fucking executive
and it's killing me. I'm trying to get a position
nor to talk so.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
You can get in there. I'm trying to get up there. No,
people don't respect you, just like that who played that Peter.

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
All I'm saying is you don't know what the mellow
is until he gets out of Charlotte. Charlotte's been bad
since he's been there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Gray Fountain has been there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Don't do that, Kember Kimber And why would you have
to catch that string?

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
That's what was unnecessary that we don't talk about the Pistons.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
You could.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
About the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Milwaukee was bad when you was there too. Every team
I was on was bad, everything Dallasallas Anyways, I can't.
I can't let you give that rap about Lamela LaMelo Rolling.
I'm just not Rolling is a good basket player.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
I've never seen him play with the team that even
has remote.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
And I hear you deal. I agree with you. I
just want to see playing some winning basketball and that
could be a situation. I didn't say it his fault.
Did I say it was his fault.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I'm not mad at you. I'm talking about just in general.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
I heard you. I heard you when we had an argument.
You guys have all said Charlotte's a shithole organization, not
the city, the organization talking about the organization that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
The organizations city have the right environment. I'm cool with
my apologies about Charlot. I don't mean disrepect Charlotte as
a city. I'm at the organization. You guys think he
needs a new environment. I understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
What is LaMelo's like worth? What would you get from
whe would you want to see LaMelo? Let's put that out.
What would you want to see LaMelo? What do you
think LaMelo can be good with?

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Phoenix?

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Like that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
LaMelo won't be good with But who.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Are you giving up? You got to give up somebody.
You won't be good Milwaukee, you say, won't be good
with Milwaukee. Who are you giving up? You got to
give up somebody the Phoenix? Yeah, who you want? Who
you want except for Dylan Brooks and a Jayalen Green Green,

(01:20:45):
Grayson Allen and somebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
I don't think you gotta do all. I like that.
But now you like that? Why you like that? Because
LaMelo can play? No, LaMelo is a hooper. He's a hooper.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
But but you get you got if the Mellows your
number one guy, you're not winning, but you got himself.
If La Mello's your number two guy, you're still not winning.
Melos your three guys.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
But you don't know Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Who's going with Charlotte.

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
Organization isn't cast. They've been bad, very they've hit they
this is the first pick they've hit on.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
No, they hit him be Miller. Don't they dispect Be Miller?
Don't hit on Brenda Miller? Is this is the first
pick they hit on, the first pickard?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
I mean conk Nipple did say like he did, I'm
winning losing, but we don't put defensive effort like he
came out and said that yesterday. So you know a
lot of people on the comments and Twitter were saying,
why is the twenty year old the leader of a
team because conn came out and said, I'm okay with
winning or losing, but we ain't putting defensive effort. We
ain't even trying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Like basically that was paraphrasic, but that's always been the
case in Charlotte. They never had their vet is no offense.
Pat Connington, he.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Want a chip though he's a champion Milwaukee, he's a
champion and he played paid minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
There's a good role player. Ain't nobody listening? I can't.
I can't even believe he just said that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
I can't even know you're talking about. You don't know
if it's a good VET until you actually get there.
He could be a good VET. That's all I'm saying.
He has experience.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
You know what the problem is? You listen to you
listen to Pat con Ofton. You know what the problem is?
Are you listening to.

Speaker 7 (01:22:43):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
You know what the problem is. I mean, let's just
let's just be honest, and I'm not this is not
a strain to this coach. I don't know who he is.
So can he really yeah, like can he really get
these guys going?

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
It's not a shot at him, because then he's a
you know, he's a black coach, my mom, for my my,
you know African American coaches, you know, getting a shot
and doing his thing. But when you're trying to rebuild something,
you gotta go with somebody with some experience. You gotta
go with somebody that's gonna go in there and really
you know, demand and get control of that locker room

(01:23:20):
and you know, bring in a culture like this guy
here is trying to create a culture with these young
guys who need a culture. You know what I'm saying,
Like I don't know, I look at things differently. Shout
out to the coach, though, man, because you know, you
know he's he's trying with a team.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Let me ask you this, and I think you can
vouch this to Steve Clifford. I heard from d Bake
Camba he's a great coach and he's not exactly that.
But it never worked out. You brought an experience with
guys that with a coach of players actually fuck with,
then we're out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
I mean Steve Clifford went to the playoffs with Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Didn't he did? I believe so. But they brought him back.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Be a good for Charlotte. Yeah, Teams will be a
great coach for Charlotte. Teams will be a great coach
because he gonna bring in. Do Tims get another job?

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
For sure, he's got to. He will be blackball, Like
I think Mark Jackson's is the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
He he's black You know I'd like to see get
a job, man, Sam, That's not gonna happen. If it
hasn't happened now, it's not gonna happens. Crazy, No, I won't.

Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
We thought Jamal Mosey thought the same thing. Now he
finally he finally got a chance. No coach for a
long time, bro was it? Yeah, because he was in
different for menute before he came to Dallas, he was
He's just just a coach for a minute. I will
say this to speaking about coaching and Jamal. You know,
Desmond did say we found on our identity on identity
on the defensive end again. So I don't know if

(01:24:45):
that's a shot at polo. I don't think it is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
But but he's not there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
He's not playing right now, just saying so it could be.
We said that's why they've been playing well. So he's
on an interview with Malika Andrews.

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
But they have the defense. But you know who'll be
playing great. Let me give him some shot out of
me to give him some love, Anthony Black. He's been
falling and he's been in that lineup and he's a
he's a hooper. He's a defender. Though, like sometimes you
gotta find it way. You gotta find the right matchups
for you to start winning. And that's what you have

(01:25:17):
to do sometimes and sometimes some people get moved to
the side. Who might have been, you know, playing more
minutes and doing certain things a year before. Hey, the
league is about who gets better, who comes in and
who brings in different ship and also about who who
who plays well together? Who plays well together? Anthony Black
Campain and you know France and those guys, Wendelle Carter,

(01:25:41):
who else starts.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Felling starts right, Franz.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
All those guys try to play defense. Guys try to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Believe it's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Young. He's always always, He's been hurt since he since
he left floor.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
He got the bag.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
You're crazy for black the black dick means black. What
you remember when Grady Dick and Anthony Black.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Black raised black dick? That's that is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
What are we doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
I said crazy the black.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
But that's why I was like, did he just say that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
You need to give no more drink for you? You
turned into da That's crazy. I've seen the documentary. I
know it's out speaking of that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
About that, I didn't watch it, but I watched it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:48):
No, you should have said she was the Grady Dick
and Anthony Black jersey swap. You could have said that
you talk about you missed The Black Dick mame crazy
talking about black think is the views.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
That's what he wanted to view. Abackew that ship was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Long bomb take hr classes, bro, I don't even take it.
I knew exactly what the I was doing. Come on, guys,
let's be serious. All right, we're gonna talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
It's tough to bounce back from that. That's gonna be
a tough one. You did that when we have the
most viewers, you decided to hit them. The Black Dick.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Is crazy though.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
You don't know where to go, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Finish the show. I wonder if we go to and
or we go to Zion because we weredy on South Carolina.
Where we all want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
I want to go.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
I see that, I see I love that Gucci. So
back in the chat, where's she at? I like that
yellow one? That yellow one? Damn?

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Is that racist? Are you yelling that? He goes text
you're about to go text? Is it fair to say yellow?

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Is that racist?

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Can I call you yellow?

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Yeah? You callow black and yellow? I don't know, to
be honest, Yeah, what are you me? Just like you?
What butter Scott? They said hog is yellow? Rice?

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
I don't even know what that means to be yellow rice.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
You know you know what yellow rice is?

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Yellow rice?

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Yellow rice says yellow yellow?

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Are you talking about like the mighty rice?

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
I beg your pardon. I was talking about yellow rice.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Is wild.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Yellow rice. Just they said, yeah, that's yellow rice. No,
we just call it yellow rice. Is literally a package rice,
me and crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Yellow trying to get canceled.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
For real, you the one talking about this. You're gonna
get us canceled with that statement. Man, look at that picture.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
You are talking about that Gucci song. I'm on Calvary
this weekend. We're gonna we're gonna say, say what's up?
So shout out to her?

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
There you go, Uh the d are you coming? Champagna?

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
I don't think they really the rush hour for podcast facts?
No facts, bro, This ship get real diabolic over here.
Sometimes I go a hold, that was crazy wor one
that you might have the worst one, Peter, can you
pull up the New Orleans crowd please?

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Yeah, let's talk about that in New Orleans?

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
That was Have you seen this?

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
It was nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Look at the crowd.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Oh yeah, I've seen it like a preseason game. It's awful.
This is a the A team, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Yeah, it's time to move on. It's time to get
the funk out of New Orleans. Yeah, it's time, bro
take him to one type.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Of smoke, y'all want.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
It's time to move on to somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
To Vegas taking more LEAs you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:14):
See that, taking a high school game, taking the lives
Las Vegas. What you gonna call them? You think the
mascot Los Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Ten thousand dollars on ticket sales?

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
That was nasty Las Vegas gamblers?

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Yeah, you know rac for sure, elite be Chauncey, Billups
d Jones the front office.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Yo, did you see that he's the only one pleading
not guilty and going against the Chauncey Damon Jones is
taking a pleado.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
From what I read, Chauncey might be the jit.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
I understand that. I'm saying he's the only let's fight.
Your fifty one dollars four seats is wild.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Floory seeds fifty one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
They didn't do more thousand dollars worth of sales takes
to expense.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
That's way too expensive.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
One disrespectful you see the crowd? How much disrespectful you
saw the crowd dollars for NBA. They are still NBA players.
It is the New Orleans Prorace. You're still NBA players,
And it's fifty one dollars to go watch them on
the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
I watch you see what they're doing and how they're playing.
You don't watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Yeah, man, they were balled out. That was a good game.
Yesterday they balled They ball yes, which gonna have thirty
something and fifteen?

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
What do we expect them? They was playing, they was
playing Murphy. They went, they played Minnesota, they won.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
That was Minnesota. They lost over time, they lost overtime.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
It was a good game, zions. I do like New
Orleans Fears, Jeremy Fears and Terry Queen. And you don't
like Trey Murphys Murphy. Yeah yeah, they got his brother
in ms U.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
I like I like him, I like them. I like them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Future dollar four seats.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
There's no way it's fifty one. That's bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
It's too expensive. Too expensive is crazy, y'all are crazy.
Let's pull up there, let's go. I love New Orleans.
I want to go to the game. I love the game.
Let's pull up. I take care of Floyde worry.

Speaker 7 (01:32:13):
On me.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Floyd t on me about three hunds four four. I
feel like we can all take care of that our
we'll be betting a hunt here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
I got to death to pay.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
You gotta pee again, nigga, Yeah, because you was wrong me.
We'll get your back. Yeah, pays be the first one
in the fucking seat. So like, oh my god, you
see this ship smash the lone.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Fat home, Yo, So grab a camera and bitch, why
b B H y'all saw the dick in this on
this fucking chip. I wait more than you leave.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
No dick like that, bro, It's like he dig it
into the fu couch. Oh you got cake and we
don't know about it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
Yeah, I was right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
The tyres six. Give me a bile.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Remember I didn't give you those little short little things.
I waved this little thing, but you gave me right then.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
I didn't give you a say you the first Asian
nigga with a B B L.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
That's crazy the.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Whole you left in au couch.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Bro, this coach is so uncomfortable right now.

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
Bro, Damn whoa Gucci said? That's my booty? Hey hey yo,
that's crazy, getting.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
What do you say?

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
What do you it's probably because I'm sitting on like
whether let me ask.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
You a person with that right question? Ship.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Look at Pete, I already know you're about to say
so crazy screaming laugh since you like his booty.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Bro, Charlie stopped, Bro, stop Bro, what is that?

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
What is about to say? Finds I'm not even reading that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
That's not happening. Bro is wrong with you know? She
she'd be doing that ship just to fucking fun with
me though, but.

Speaker 1 (01:34:33):
Playing with your booty.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
No, she'd be saying that ship on chat. So you
guys can fuck with me like around the chat.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
I don't want to be I don't I don't want
to talk about this because I don't want to talk
about how we'd be doing some.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
Freaking ship with freaking home. I don't talking about this
freaking home.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Come's a bunch of step stools, all types of ship going.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
On, five hundred viewers when we're talking about ship. Let's
move on.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
There's a bunch of first time comedy sessions.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
That's crazy. Rob's in the chat.

Speaker 6 (01:35:06):
Look Rob, you know he got a critique. We're gonna
post your picture again.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Yo, you gotta stop. She gotta it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:17):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Hey, So let's get to Zion exactly. Bro, let's get this.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
We know why this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Chat for real? I can't I can't matter not. But
she's just talking crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Is it tough to have a little.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
It's crazy. Think picks on only fans is crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
What is getting killed right now? And cooked? Vancouver woman
getting down? She from Vancouver.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
No, she's been the means, but she lives from Vietnam. Bro,
But she lives fresh off the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
But where does she lives?

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Where does she live?

Speaker 6 (01:36:18):
This has been downhill since the black dick comment. She
can answered down hell since he said ever since you
said that. By the way, I don't know if I
gave a shout the money. His birthday was on the
last Friday, and I said, mont the money money. He's
a loyal He's a loyal to the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Is it time that has some concern about Zion? That's
why I took the back. Mother said he's gonna make
the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Said yeah, yeah, from real right now? Ben? Is we
already pay that? No, he hasn't paid. That's he wants
to keep it going. What was our bet that you
kept it going? What the pace?

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
But yeah, man, I.

Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
Listen, I can't even I can't have said, you know
and you know how I wreck with my sou carolinta guys.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
I just he can never still on the court. This
is skinny.

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
He'll come to play one game and get twenty something
and then you go sit out for two for five
more games.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
You got to move on from New Orleans. Bro, I
just don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Like, I want to listen, I want to take up
for my guy, for my guy, you got the court.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
Imagine being an imagine being a New Orleans Repelicans player.
You gotta get up and play a game like that's
exactly to that crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
Bro, that's two things that need to happen to the Pelicans.
From One, it's time for them to go to Vegas.
I like New Orleans. They have very good food, but
they gotta get out of there. Second, Zion needs a
new spot. Does that mean he's gonna stay healthy at
the new spot.

Speaker 7 (01:37:55):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:37:56):
But at the end of the day, if I'm the Pelicans,
I'm like, bro, we can't keep doing this ship. Bro, Like,
he can't stay on the fucking court.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Now, you got you gotta move on, Bro. That organization's cursed.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
Yeah, that's fair to say, Hey, can we talk about
something else that we that we that we weren't supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Did you just see what Ben Simmons said?

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
I did. He said he played for free, but he.

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
Said, like he he said, some real ship that kind
of made me like look at things differently towards him tweet. Yeah,
he was like, you know, you tell he got kind
of emotional about it. He said, you know, I stayed
quiet about a lot of stuff, you know, and I
took a lot of stuff that people were saying about

(01:38:43):
me and these narratives basically created about me. He was like,
but at the end of the day, I gotta make
sure that I take care of me my health because
I wasn't doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
So basically, like he still was trying to you know
what I'm saying, Like he said, I go back.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
He said, there's no problem with Philly, he said, because
it was some other shit going on and we're seeing
up this shit going on with the front office stuff.
Ain't no telling what happened with this man that made
him just quit like that. To just be honest, Yeah,
let's be honest. But shout out to Ben Simmons, man,
I think he's a big talented You think he was

(01:39:25):
dealing with an issue. I think he was dealing with
mental health. I think you're dealing with mental health for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
I mean, you know, if your mental health thing right,
you can't play well.

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
That's a fact. Ever since that pass in the playoffs,
You're right, that was it, he has not been the same.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
There's not. When he passed up that layup, and Bro,
that was twenty twenty one.

Speaker 5 (01:39:49):
When he passed that layup. Ever since then he passed
all his confidence, oh god, and everything else with that past.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
It changed his whole trajectory of his career.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Like it's it's tough to see. It's tough to I
don't know if he's telling the truth. And I'm sorry
to you, No, I don't know if he's telling the
truth or not. I don't, but I do.

Speaker 5 (01:40:12):
What I do know is mental health is real. I
do know that, and that that shit can really fuck
with you. It can really put you in a bad place.
It can make you act out of character. It can
make you do things that you know that you that
you wouldn't do normally. Like, so I will say that
for those in the chat who's saying Bill Simmons is
lying like it's the truth, bro, Like mental health is real.

Speaker 6 (01:40:39):
I think I think he definitely dealing with it. Playing
in Philly ain't the easy. Ain't for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Not easy.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
But at the same time, when you got somebody who
was getting cooked, like anytime cook, anytime he stepped on
the floor, anytime he got was seen, he was hurt,
wasn't playing. Everyone said he's stealing money. That that fucks
with you. He sees it all. And especially for a
guy that they were talking about being the next bron right,

(01:41:08):
being the next guy up. We saw one. I forgot
who the guy was. It was telling hey, bron we're okay.
We got Ben Simmons right when you got that type
of Now, let's be honest. Ben Simmons was a motherfucker.
He was a problem. We're not We're not gonna sit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Here and act like he wasn't one of the best
defenders in the league.

Speaker 6 (01:41:31):
He was either one of the best defends the league
and got down here and made what happened confidence and
got hurt. It was it's mental, bro, this ship was completed.

Speaker 5 (01:41:45):
Everybody's not tough minded like like some other said, you
know what, I'm saying because if you think about it,
and then if you want to you can say what
you want to say. But Russell Westbrook is a fucking like,
very tough skinned, tough minded individual. Like the ship that
he has to hear about himself, the ship that he
went through in LA and never lofts is not one

(01:42:08):
bit of confidence. Didn't lose not one bit. He went
to the next team the next year and was still Russ.
You know what I'm saying, Like he didn't change anything.
So you know, everybody deal with things differently.

Speaker 7 (01:42:19):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:42:19):
You know what Star said right there, the one and
done is hurting the NBA product. In my opinion, I
agree with that. It's because back then, ray CV, when
y'all went into the league, ray CV, you went second year,
right checking, you went third year?

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Even then you're how old all at that time?

Speaker 6 (01:42:41):
At that time you were twenty You got guys coming
in a twenty Well my birthday was rent during the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Junior twenty one.

Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
You got guys coming there twenty now eighteen, nineteen, twenty
one years old. This is a lot of pressure, though.
It's a lot of pressure, and we talked about it
before multiple times out here. Not having these vets in
these locker rooms, and you trying to let these guys
figure figure out this ship on their own, you're there,

(01:43:10):
You're pretty much you're pretty much setting them up to fail.
Not everyone, just like Ray said, is mentally equipped enough
to handle these type of situations and this type of
pressure at the highest level, because we know they know
they're getting paid at a higher level. They're not going
out there trying to like I'm gonna play like ass today. No,

(01:43:33):
They're going out there wanting to play at the highest
level they possibly can.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
But there's so many they be like, oh my god,
I have to make this shot, or am I get booed?

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
Or l huh doc Rivers violating.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
No, But can I just want to comment there? You
say it's basketball, bro, Let's not forget they off the court.
You probably make the most money in your family now
every looking at you, it's way more than basketball, bro,
Like you guys can't do that, bro, Like, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:44:06):
I don't think it's every single basketball player. I don't
care who it is that's dealt with some type of
mental mental trying to get theirselfs back to themselves and
feel motivated and get their confidence back because when you're not,
especially if you're a position where you're not playing, and
you in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
You're always talked about.

Speaker 6 (01:44:25):
College, you might be talked about, and then you get
to the league where clearly, as they've shown, it's the
Clippers stupid Ass's Lawrence Frank dumb ass.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
They don't give a damn about you.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:44:38):
The human factor is gone. So when that is gone,
you're dealing with this by yourself. Your parents can't help you.
They ain't never had this much money before. They have
no idea how to handle this. They could be like, no,
it's okay, just continue to work. It's more than that.

(01:44:58):
Sometimes you we don't realize some things until you until
later on your career. When did you feel like you
actually selled it and be like, okay, I can handle
these emotions.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
What year was that for you?

Speaker 6 (01:45:10):
You said the first year and you was losing Ray
You was you ain't never lost that much in your life, never, never, Yeah,
cev you to say eighteen games, eighteen games, No, eighteen games,
we might have lost eighteen in the room.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Oh yeah, one, eighteen eighteen games a year.

Speaker 5 (01:45:30):
It was planning playing I was playing my vacation in
All Star break for the after the season.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
No, Susan, that's tough.

Speaker 5 (01:45:41):
We knew it all Star break. We would we had
no chance of making playoffs, you know what I'm saying.
But you know that's just part of it, and it's
part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Nothing health is really So two things big charlta Oasis,
shelt Oasis shelter Calshi. Make sure you guys go use
promo Cobaja. We're gonna talk about one more Calci segment
a little bit. It makes you guys join our discord.
I'm gonna fil the link in the chat you get
access to Charlie, the one where you get the chance
to shoot the ship with them here and there. Another
big thing as well is make sure you guys join

(01:46:11):
our playback, which I also put in the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
What are we doing our next playback?

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
The games are nastiest week, so we'll probably start next week.
We keep saying that, but the next week we got
locked in.

Speaker 5 (01:46:19):
It is about fellowship for sure, get on get on
that call of duty. Trying to get on that call
of duty with me though.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
Yeah, we're go lock in on the call of duty
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Discord, I just got to get on it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
My phone so I'm just gonna bring up the Chris
Paul things really quickly. They said that he requested to
have a meeting with Tyrone lu last week, and he said,
what what?

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
What? What?

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
He requested to have a meeting with Tyron Lou last
week and didn't happen, and Lawrence Frank traveled just to
deliver him the news. I just want to bring up
this week. It's pretty funny. This is what a boogey
cousins have to say.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
Oh what do you say?

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
Put the key keepler elf on the stack of book
and make him speak up.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
I agree. I got to hear from him. Guess what
did he speak on it? He puts some comment out.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
He also said Tyler is going to continue being the
coach here for a long time. I find it difficult, man,
Tyler was a former player. That's probably shit. He hit it.
You just gonna have the conversation with Chris man keep
it moving.

Speaker 6 (01:47:21):
I had dinner with Chris the night before they played
the Mask and he told me t Lud never had
a conversation with him about him being at the rotation.
I don't know how he doesn't get the respect of that.
You would think t Lou could. I mean something must
have been.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
One of his statements is we did not make the
move because of our underperformance. He had nothing to do
with that. We are not scaped going to Chris Paul.
We have great respect for Chris for the career sid
We're not blaming.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
For Oh that's the political ship.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
Yeah, well why do it now?

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
I don't know it is what it is? I mean,
it's bullshit, Ray, what is that?

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
What is that comment? Something happened?

Speaker 7 (01:47:58):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
What is that bullshit? Something happened in that locker room
for show.

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
You you just admitted what it was by putting that
statement out. This isn't a scapegoat. It's a scapegoat. It's
not because we're losing us because you're losing. If you
was winning, would your would you fucking cut them?

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Exactly? You're lying, lying, you're flat out line trying to
save face.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
No, you look.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
Because they didn't know the type of responses that they
were gonna get off that ship because Chris Parter loved it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:32):
You just sends Chris Paul homes you thought you was
gonna thought you you thought it was gonna happen. That's
why JJ couldn't handle the situation that he thought you finished,
bitch Lebron, that ship was gonna go crazy, like so
you just they thought this ship was gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
With cp CP out there playing trees.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Now, yeah, all right, you all ready to kill Charlie
whoa whoa in the chat like figuratively speaking, what was
pup is bullshit graphic you try to bring up earlier
before we started the show.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
I like, not a bullshit graphic.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
At his graphic, Peter, the one I sent you COVID
to be pissed at this one.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
No, watch his chat. Watch his graphic. It's something to
talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
I sent it to you.

Speaker 3 (01:49:18):
We sent it to you. Fucking Peter. There you go, Pete,
take it down now, No, no, no, what the fuck.
I'm just saying, we can't say somebody look at hold?

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
What is he saying?

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
What I'm saying is just look at it. Kobe Bryant
fifth year. I don't know if it's with the Lakers
in the league. He was, He's always been his Lakers
the whole career.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
You gotta stop drinking.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Yeah, yeah, right, because he got traded Charlotte and that
was a championship year as well.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
But you got that told me you got help me.
That's my bad.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
That's the championship orders year as well.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
So compare the numbers. Look at it.

Speaker 6 (01:49:58):
What I'm saying is what i'm saying. Hold on, wait,
let's see what he's saying. I got to hear what
I am not.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Let me get my ship off and don't say y'all
got a chill, ceev got a chill.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Let me off, making cantler. Oh ship.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
Why you had to repeat that though? Huh no he
had to repeat. You didn't have to repeat. I'm not
comparing him to Kobe.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
What is it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
I'm just saying, we just compare both of their fifth
year compared again. Put the graphic up, fucking Pete. Put
the graphic up.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Bro, damn you what are you bullying?

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
P for?

Speaker 5 (01:50:35):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
Now, I'm bullying Pete. That's what I got yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
Hold on, It's just something to look at. I'm not
saying he's gonna turn out to have a Kobe Bryant here.
I'm just saying my numbers, guy, Oh my god, these
numbers are a little prepeted then Kobe's fifth year. So
that being said, wait a minute, I'm getting off too much.

(01:51:02):
Homepo damn so fuck Hong, You're fucking my whole ship up.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Fuck you don't even know outside right come to you
don't even know where you're going. He threw me off, bro,
fucking my whole ship up. Man, fucking Hong Kong. Where
are you going?

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
Bro?

Speaker 7 (01:51:31):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
All I would saying it was OK, then the day
something to look at, the same day, because you fucking
me up a home.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
It's something to look at.

Speaker 7 (01:51:45):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
That's all I'm saying is Austin Reeves. It's for real.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
I'm a numbers guy, he's a He's for real. It's
time to take him serious. That's all I'm saying. I
totally agree with you about taking him Serious's take him serious.

Speaker 5 (01:52:03):
We ain't gonna do. But what we ain't gonna do,
I'm not I'm just put a graphic up here again, Peter.
If you put that damn graphic up again, I don't
care what Charlie sit in. If he sit another graphic
kid with fucking Kobe Bryant fuckings beside each other.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
I'm not saying it's on the same level as Kobe.
I know they won't. He be all the same.

Speaker 6 (01:52:29):
It's been twenty games. That was the whole season. That
was Kobe's whole season. This is not the who you're
talking about. Somebody else did the graphic. I didn't do
the fucking graphics. I'm just showing. I was like, Hey,
this is interesting, let's talk about it. That's it, let's
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Well, what's it to talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:52:50):
Is having a great year. But we're not gonna put
him at a great We're not gonna have a comparison.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
But like this, hell, hold on, hold on, what what?
What are you What do you want to talk about?
Because you said you just want to show the stats.
What do you actually want to talk about?

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
What were we going that he has potential to be
better than Kobe? Don't want to know. What I'm saying,
is you you basically saying we got to start giving
this man his flower. That's cool, We've been giving her flower.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
And the whole Lebron like it's time, like let's start.
Hey one was twenty two and almost twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
He could be all star. You know what I mean?
He can be all Star.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
The ship.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
Ar twenty seven. Kobe was twenty two or was.

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
It that's twenty seven compared to twenty two I didn't
know that's that that stack, that graphic was in there.
We apologize. I can't stay a real cookpologize.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
What do you think I'm trying to instigate? This was him,
he said that, He said he want to talk about.
This is not me.

Speaker 6 (01:53:46):
Bro afro Kobe would run circles around ar I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
I'm just hearing comparing fifth fear to fifth fear. That's
all I was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
Understood, Yeah, I look at No, No, we're not gonna
We're not gonna look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
I don't think you know, I don't know why.

Speaker 6 (01:54:03):
I want to talk about two things. I want to
talk about two things before we get out of here. One,
I heard something somebody talk about the bags of the
different eras. You can't really touch anybody nowadays. So is

(01:54:23):
it easier to guard? It was harder to guard back then,
Like it was harder to score back then than it
is now.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
Yes, arm bars so harder to score back then. It's
way harder to score back then. Okay, respect that.

Speaker 6 (01:54:39):
Because this is from personal experience and understanding what y'all
have told me in the NBA and all that stuff.
I remember when guys came back. That is not treat
you know, still handshack just Gavin Hunt arm bar. You
can't arm bar anymore. And people used to go are

(01:55:00):
people literally with their hand?

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
Gray?

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
I remember? I remember Danny Green, Ray uh.

Speaker 6 (01:55:10):
Uh Mar Dino, all those guys came back and they
used to guard and they used to have their hand
on your hip where you can't even move and they
send you want to go and they see you, they
they dictating where you go. You cannot put your hand
on nobody. Nowadays they're not might be a flagrant foul
to kicked out the game. So I think there needs

(01:55:34):
to be a proper respect on scoring back in the
day because there was a lot more physical Now the
NBA is more offensive centric where they want the points
they want. Guys Austin Reeves gets that call all the
time where he just driving and somebody got their hand
on him and he just goes up, and.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
I mean, if somebody falls out, they're making a call.
Before it was a true.

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
Question, I forgot.

Speaker 6 (01:56:01):
I just think I just put put respect on because
they like Jordan didn't have a bag. I'm like, yeah,
but Jordan's just way.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
More agree and g A s g A's bag is born.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
Yeah better.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
M J didn't have I don't know, please talking about that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
But we got a fun Calci thing for you. You
want to pull up the stuff on Diggs and Cardi
b Calchi.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
What Stefan is a Cardi b b engaged? But no,
I'm taking hell no.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
Third graphic is that this year?

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
Like oh like in the last reading, it's almost that's
a that's an easy No, that's on me. I didn't.
I didn't. I was thinking next year.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
That's on me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
Not hell no, not this year. We can take the
graphic down. Last thing.

Speaker 6 (01:56:53):
Cal We appreciate you, Clippers once again. You're fucked up.
One of your best.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Players to ever come through the Clippers to play on
the Clippers, put on the Clippers uniform to beat you.

Speaker 6 (01:57:04):
Disrespect them to the highest level. No respect your organization
for a very long time. I don't understand if anybody
will ever want to go there because you did them dirty.
Uh your organizations from ship. You ain't gonna win nothing,
I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
Okay, see you get your pick and uh they already
have it.

Speaker 6 (01:57:21):
Yeah, they got it right now. They're gonna keep losing
and let's see who the problem is now.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
But before we sign. Thank you for all five hundred
broad appreciate us.

Speaker 6 (01:57:34):
Man like that's what something You're only getting bigger and better. Yep,
and Lord you should be fired. That is from Oasis.
Oasis said the same thing. Shout out to Calshi. Shout
out to Ray c V, Hank, Kurt, Peter, what's my
man name again? Andrew Andrew in the back y'all don't
know Andrew yet. We're gonna bring Andrews one day and

(01:57:54):
let y'all see him.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
Big time day friend. Shout out to Chris Paul, Love you,
my guy. Didn't deserve any of this.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
See you can.

Speaker 6 (01:58:05):
We will see y'all tomorrow, Same time eleven and one
Central Time, twelve to two.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
I Show the Week were out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
Peace,

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