Dwyane Wade SAID what? Is Sacramento DOOMED? Ant vs Shai and more

The crew kicks off To the Baha with high energy, reacting to a cold European hooper lighting up the internet before diving into a string of NBA fights shaking up the league. They revisit their ongoing Draymond–Warriors debate and argue whether Draymond or Rudy Gobert is truly more impactful. D-Wade’s LeBron quote sparks heated discussion, followed by CV’s Hall of Fame video moment. The guys break down rising concerns for the Clippers, teams calling about Ja Morant, and a gritty OKC vs. Timberwolves matchup. They wrap with Luka’s MVP-level run, Sacramento’s potential moves, and fresh LaMelo Ball trade rumors.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
One.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You all was good and it's the last day of
the work week. I want to give a big shout
shout to the out Raymond Felting in the building, Yo,
what do what do everybody for the holiday? Cev's in
the building.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Friday.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
It's a Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's a Friday day. And obviously THEO Pinson feels a
little late.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Today, late, a little late. I gotta watched the kids.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I got it, I got it. I want to say, obviously,
happy Thanksgiving to all our viewers. We're gonna give some shadows. Obviously,
shoutout to Oasis.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I'm gonna keep it a butt Fellers. We're booming right
now to the Baja is booming and I ain't gonna
hold you. It's because of our fans. We appreciate the
love and the chat. Yeah, y'all have been holding us down.
We only getting bigger and better and we appreciate the love.
That's what Thanksgiving to everybody. But we about to have

(01:11):
a great show today. We want to have a great show. Listen,
I gotta shout up the Star. I hope you had
a good birthday yesterday. Brouh. Jordan Young, what's up? Number
one Lakers fan? Number one to the ball hater on
Lakers takes. Gee, Ralphle, what's up, Alvin? We see you
obviously tensing you talking about THEO already. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Marcholl. What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Tanna, Tanna? I think first time we seen you here,
Brennan Ridge Senior, A couple of times here, so appreciate
you in the petty league. You was talking crazy yesterday,
but appreciate you pulling back up. Well, let's get into
it rush hour four. Man, I'm excited for that.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
You got any intel on that.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Jackie chats my uncle?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
So I do give you some Intael.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I ain't giving no intel what we got going on.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Let me let me get in that movie. Let me
get in there.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I was thinking more likely though, No, no, not Jelly Jack.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
What's I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know, man, Jelly Jelly tough.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Bro, someone put in the chat, pushed the button. You
remember the movie The Little Girl. I don't know that
he is not educated. Yeah, the Maria Carrey song was
the last time that ship came out, bro, Bro.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Now they haven't been showed every week.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I have seen it in a minute. Brontu right now.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
The did you guys see the fact that they have
every rush Our movie that they now put a disclaimer
like this was made in the nineties because of like
the racial tones and stuff to crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
We live in the sensitive world.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Did you say? Yesterday called me and him Chris Tucker
and Jackie Chack very fair, very fair, while this guy
said I'm related to William Hall. William she bangs. Guy
shout the bucket panda in d R.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
That's that was good.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
That was good, heard you? Okay, we got the test
being Spano.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
We definitely got here. We're gonna talk a little bit
more about the DRE thing because I did want to
ask some questions follow up for everybody. But first, Yo,
we gotta give a big shout to Ray. Ray usually
doesn't pull up too many clips and topics. Ray sent
me a topic last night. Really Ray, Yeah, man, Bro

(03:46):
David Clippers, let me see what.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
I'm looking for a crew of six people. We're going
to go to euro League and actually remove this man
from the court before he actually hurt somebody. His name
is still Vaine Go. Hands down, he's the best fine
for me this year. I say. His signature is that
right handed his He's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
A good time.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
He's on the deck, you get something in front of
he sets you up, slows down, turns his body like
he's gonna shoot. Then he's out of there. There's not
many people in the world that do it quite this well.
A lot of good players in the euro League, but
I think that he has the best handles. Not only that,
he may be the fastest in the league too. But honestly,

(04:33):
I'm just let the footage, but you.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Like I get throw off sweets he pulled. He personally,
I love watching people have got game like this.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
So if you know anybody else, let me know. In
the common section he is national team. He might be
Dominican low key, No, he's not. Last last same is Francisco.
He's not Dominican's last same is Francisco. Listen, what's his
first name?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Chat?

Speaker 4 (05:01):
What's his first name?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
When I tell you this man got that wiggle? My god,
he's nice. I had I had to show you. Why
was he playing around like that? He was just playing.
He was torn with him? Yeah, he was torn with guys.
Go get him from over there from the euro League.
I need to see that over here in the league.
I need to see that.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I need to see the last name is Francisco.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I don't think he has a place in the league though,
go home, small scores and you guys know what it is.
It's like very tough for you to get an opportunity
like that, Like Mike James Bones Bones Island is nice.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
The league is changing.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I don't know, like listen, he's elite. I'm just saying,
you know how it is.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Man, Huh, I see, I like to see him against anybody.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Somebody says his name is Francisco guard.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
See, I would I would love to see him play
in the league. I'm just saying, you know, it's an
opportunity league and they're not looking for scores that small.
Typically say what you're saying, right, could you go?

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Ahare hell?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Don know? Bro?

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Exactly up?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, I will not show off to work the next
day better than Brownie. I'm not even getting into that.
What bro, what are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Manid questions?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
If you guys want and if you guys want to
answer that question.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
The chat, I'm gonna leave that up the rate I'm
gonna leap.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Better. I'm just going with the chat. I can call
that what so you answered, I'm not answering.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Let's answer Charlie.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Were good? Moving on?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
All right, we're moving on.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Is he better than Brownie?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I would say so, just off the clips, to be
honest with you all, just aside to Brownie, Brownie might
be more impactful on the NBA roster because there's the
size and roll. It's like the dream one argument, which
we will talk a.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Little bit about a lot of black issues outside.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Mm hmm yeah clutch.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
But no, all right, let's get to it. This first
thing that Charlie asked me, if we have today, let's
play a score up video.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Oh, put your hands up out of your face.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Than me.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
What is this?

Speaker 5 (07:25):
What are we doing?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
What is this talking about?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Do it? Do it? It's a hold me back moment,
Hold me back?

Speaker 5 (07:33):
I just what are we doing? It's one of those.
Is one of those.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Let me get to it. You calm boys, show what
I mean. Former teammate.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Wild, former teammate, my partner.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
So what you gotta say about your partner right there?
I would say, if you're gonna score her up, uenise,
get your hands out. Yeah he was low with it.
Oh your face is still open, broh, my god, all
the way open. That's all I gotta say so, you're
saying he would have got bank bank bing ban. Yeah,
no time to react. Your hands is low.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Maybe maybe he's like brucenut you get just dodge bro.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
I will say this, there's a lot of NBA players
that will he faked the funk. They don't want to fight.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
We know you do.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
I am liable to swingles to swing. That was your cue.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Your track record shows that you have a problem.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Tend to block out. Let's talk about it about this
man first. Yeah, who who in the league will fight Stewart?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Isaiah Stewart is not playing.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Chris Chris yo smart smart?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Last night, you guys k c P. I think I
saw I saw a foot clip. Do you guys remember
when he played the game with ankle monitor on?

Speaker 4 (09:10):
He played a game with an ankle monitor?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, do you guys remember that?

Speaker 4 (09:14):
No?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I just thought it was funny because I saw that.
Do you guys remember that?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
No? No, I don't remember that. But that's crazy. The
Thompson brother The Thompson Brothers are low key spans. They
with it too. They with it. James Johnson, Steven Adams,
Stephen but like him, leave Stephen Adams alone. But Steven Adams.

(09:38):
He seemed like he had disrespectful dude like he'll be like, hey,
look with one hand and pick you up and say stop,
don't do that. No seattle. Hey, possibly you know the
one fight out the one fight I would love to
see Ja McDaniel, him and Stewart Steve got hands.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Boy.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Wait a minute, hey, listen, I got money of even
just because you're big. I mean kids squabble too, now,
yeah you squabble, you a squabble back. Yeah, I'm liable.
Let's swing on somebody.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
You got it.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I'm liable to. Ray will fight somebody back to do
something else.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
To And I think the number one is James Johnson,
No Steward. I would like to see film on James Johnson.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
They said he could kick the say he can. They
say he could jump up and kick the rim. I
would like to see it. I want to see that too.
They say he was a certified he can't fight nobody,
because when you a black belt you can't fight. You
know that's crazy. I would have stopped that. Whatever, Mo
Twins fight you.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Someone said, raise a tired Crashy is a retired Okay,
so Casey Peter's photoshop. You never failed ankle mar and
my apologies.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's a myth, that's what they're saying.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Isaiah Steward Draymond. I think Draymond to fight somebody. I mean,
he clearly punched the ship out of teammate. Yeah, he'll
fight somebody. He punched, punch him. That's on film, that's
on record. So Jordan, though, he is, he'll swing on,
he'll swing on somebody. Oh, y'all forgot Boby porters.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Oh for sure, crap, honest clearly smack the ship out
of somebody. Yeah, he saw that guy. But anyways, let's
let's get to it.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
He would never play professionally anywhere. You get smacked like that.
How can you play him? You can't. You can't.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, So back to the drop and ship.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
It's off of fake bro, you know for sure? Yeah
that was my thing. When I saw the square up,
I'm like, how do we do Jordan Clarkson joint.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
George Clarkson to fight somebody? Though?

Speaker 4 (11:55):
The sugs get pushing and sugs come in to push
some thugs. Is a nice guy, you guys, you got
I would have flame.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Be a nice guy and have a have a temper
though that's a fact.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
I liked it.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
I don't know if I like that one.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's an old one.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
I ain't see that one. Play that one again. I'm
a nice I like it.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
I don't know how I like that.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
I'm a nice guy, so I liked it.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Wait a minute, I gotta talk to the higher ups
on that.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Let's make me look none clip Kendred Nune would have
fallt somebody to CV Diddy is crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's crazy, all right, let's continue on going on. So
we obviously we had the big argument around around dy sid.
I want to ask you guys a couple of questions.
What has Klay Thompson done since he's left Golden State?

Speaker 5 (12:58):
What is Jordan Poole have done? So he's left state
has done since he left? What is done?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Is Klay Thompson done since he's left Golden State?

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Has Klay Thompson really been the same since he heard?
He got hurt twice?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
So long he got that's the one.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
You can't have it. I don't have a comeback for
that one. Has been bad, he's been bad, he's been good.
He's put up thirty. I don't know if dray Mind
had put up thirty in another team.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
That's not his role.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
There you go. You see what I'm talking about. I'm
talking about he's going back the roles and ship. So
so you're telling me.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I'm asking the question, right, it's not his role. So
I'm asking the question.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
So you're saying Draymond would have a scoring role.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
No, no, it's not his role. So when you say
he scored, what would.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
So what is your Okay, let me let you finish.
What's your argument?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Clay Thompsons doesn't much since he's left Going State?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
So what are you saying? So you agreeing with our statements?
If you leave Golden State everybody, that's what.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
You do?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
You do you understand what you just said us. You're
basically saying Clay isn't good somewhere else. So you think
Klay Thompson is not good somewhere? Did you think Draymond
Green would be good somewhere else? Question you keep saying,
Ask you a question. Answer what we're saying. Are you
saying because Klay Thompson isn't good in Dallas, that means
Draymond would be good somewhere else or.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
He would be Maybe it's every player on Golden State?

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Then so you agree, you're agreed, Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
The question that's it I'm throwing out there.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
What did Kevin Duran do when he left?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Kevin ran still cooking, But Kevin Rant was Kevin right
before you got there.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
So Kevin Durant won the championships since he left. I
agree with Luke l U I or set six three eight,
get it. We need you to get a better name
if we're gonna shout you out.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
My boy. He had two career ending injuries.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
He did he played better in Golden State when he
came back from them, he played well. Exactly did he played?

Speaker 4 (15:04):
If you think Clay Thompson never had those injuries he
went somewhere else, you think he would.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Be like, I don't know, because because look at the
day I got to see it shooting travels. I gotta
see it. Clearly something's going on, bro, I gotta see it, Okay,
because right now it doesn't look the same. He had
him shooting backwards.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Heard you heard you?

Speaker 4 (15:24):
So you're basically saying if Draymond goes to another team,
he won't be as successful I.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Think he is. But I did say that before. I
didn't say I think he'd be a Hall of Famer.
You guys said he wouldn't fit Hall of Famer. He
said that he wouldn't fit on another team.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
The question the question was hall of Famer, and I
did say he would not.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Be a Hall of Famer on another team. I said
he'd still be a really good player because he'd be
able to figure it out. That's what I said.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I would say this. We all know the league is
about opportunity. He does not get as many opportunities as
he does. Would go to State as he team.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Chance.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
You can take any Hall of Famer that's out there,
put them on another team, probably still be a Hall
of Famesey McGrady can go down the line. That was
our point.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I hear you guys.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I just said he you said he doesn't fit on
any other team. Both of you guys have said that.
That was my argument.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Don't figure out.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I don't think it's that big of a difference, all right.
I let's say you went to mephis he he had eight,
six and seven. No one gives a damn because they're losing.
Are we only looking at stats?

Speaker 5 (16:34):
We're looking at production. We're looking at production.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
If the guys averaging eight seven and six and they're losing,
doesn't matter. Okay, So what are you talking about? If
you have a eight seven and six and winning, you're
going to get one hundred and fifty million. I hear you, guys,
So you hear, but you're not understanding what we're saying.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I didn't. I'm not arguing with you, guys. I'm asking
the question, now, what does Clay look like? Since he's
left Golden Stay?

Speaker 4 (17:03):
That was a question I asked, bro We said it,
he has not. Look, but you said the Draymond. You
started with the Draymond ship. First, you tried you went
to the Clay. I tried to talk ship.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I said the exact same thing.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
What is Clay?

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Look, you understand the words of coming out.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Of my mind?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I brought Jordan pull to right. You brought up caval
Looney as well.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yes, you sat there and tried to you try to
say what does Clay look like? In Dallas?

Speaker 4 (17:28):
You trying to trying to throw players? You try to
you trying to throw a slower, You try to slide
one in there.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
No, I just try to make a point that I
don't think anybody would.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
I went in there.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
The point I trying to make it's not anybody looks
the same leave Golden State. That was the point I'm
trying to make.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Andrew Willis look good.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You do, that's a good. Andrew Wiggins also good, is
a great. We don't know he just got there though,
he was just a Golden State. No, No, he's right,
he's right. Andrew wigins been hoping, he's been.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
We don't know yet. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
It's true.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
He might. He might make it this year. This is
not his first year with Miami. No, but this is
no Our point is Andrew Wiggins is a Okay. Now,
I'm not gonna say like that, because Draymond is clearly talented,
but we're talking about like offensively talented that you can
plug and play anywhere. Andrew Wiggins can do that. Klay

(18:25):
Thompson before these injuries, he could do that. I don't know.
I don't care. I don't care what you're saying about
Klay Thompson. Not bro. If you Klay Thompson never got hurt.
First of all, I don't even know if he ever
leaves the Warriors. Second of all, I don't even know
if you think he wouldn't have worked with Luca and Kai.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
You're tripping without injuries.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
So he averaged twenty two in his first year back
of Golden State, twenty in his first year back, then
twenty two, then eighteen, and he went to fourteen and ten.
He don't look the same, that's after his injuries. Klay Thompson. Well,
he don't look the same, that's my point.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
But he's way more comfortable in Golden State.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
We know this.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
The offense was was was fit, was fitting for him
a steff. So you know his numbers is going to
go down, and that's numbers is gonna go down. But
but to go back to Draymond, Listen, bro, I heard
what Kmart said, and Kmart is right in innocence. Let
me finish that whole statement. Kmart is right because Draymond

(19:23):
would have had a different, a difficult time guarding the
Amari stodamers. Tim Duncans, like these dudes are like sixteen
and Tim duncan seven feet, Bro, Tim Dunkant is seven
feet with fucking amazing footwork. Because man, Listen would have
destroyed Draymond. I get that, I'm with you on that, Kmart,

(19:46):
But Draymond, you can't take away from what he can do.
At the end of the day, Draymond Green go down
as a Hall of Famer because he is a winner.
Fuck the him scoring thirty, him going twent I mean
that ain't what he came in the NBA to do.
He came in the NBA to win. That's who he is.
So for me, and I'm gonna say this, I think

(20:08):
he could go anywhere and play because of his i Q.
Now will it looked the same?

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Because he's playing with Steph Curry, he was playing with
Klay Thompson. At one point, he was playing with Kevin Durant.
The fuck at least you know what I'm saying. You
know what I'm saying. So like, I don't know what
it would look like, But to say Draymond would be
shitty somewhere else. I can't say that because he's a
fucking His i Q is high. I think he he
know justin he'll figure it out. Now will he be

(20:33):
a twenty game player? I don't know about that. I
don't know if he got that in him. I don't know.
We ain't never seen that, so we I can't say yeah.
I can't say no, but he's his i Q is
at a high level.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
So I think he can play anywhere. That's my opinion.
I think he can play anywhere.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
That's what. That's the point that I was trying to make. It.
I couldn't say about that's I think he can.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
I think he is a Hall of Famer because if
you look at I was looking at, uh, the most
comparable Draymond Green, and the name that popped up was
Ben Wallace. Ben Wallace a whole famer. Yeah, what was
scoring at all? Average five points a game? Where else
the Ben Wallace play? You played Washington, they win, they win?

(21:18):
They didn't win, right, they didn't win. I don't remember
Ben Wallace anywhere but Detroit. But Detroit, you know. And
that's what the point I was making. But ben Wallace
still was Ben Wallace in those places.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
But it was.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
The same way about about Ben Wallace, the same way
if he's not with the Pistons, that's all I'm saying. Now, Okay,
that's right. But he already had his name exactly, So
Draymond got his name already. So either way he go.
Right now, he's still going to have his name because
he already built it. One thousand percent, you know. And
that's all I was say, that built it are. My

(21:53):
point was, and I'm not gonna speak for CV. My
point was, Draymond Green is elite. We know Draymond Green
has been the defender because he is proving it countless
times over and over again. But we're not gonna just
sit here ignore. Listen, bro, the proof is into putting.
You can't he can't go be eight six and five

(22:15):
for Charlotte Hornets. It's not gonna look the same. They're
gonna get rid of you. We know that they're gonna
get rid of because and he's and he's just important.
And then I would say this, put this on record.
He's just important. The Golden State is Golden State is
to him because he put them at a different lea.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
That's the only thing I want to make make And we.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Never said he didn't. We were just saying because.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
He didn't go to Golden State, helped build Golden State.
He built that program. Okay, listen, with all of them
need but he's avow all equal on building that ship
to where it is today.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
We're not thinking of Golden State the same way if
Dre's not there, if Clay not there or Steph not
Iggy's just important. If you take evey one of them
out of that equation, it looks different. It's not the same.
It looks different. And I'm gonna be honest, they better
put KD in there too, because KD is very pivotal
to that, to that cre in my opinion, because I'm
telling you that ship was figured out.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
He's gonna have they know, they know that ship was
about to give.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Joe Lacup said, they they all getting stacked.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
That was all my point. That was, yes, do you
really think they would win that?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Katie, dre Clay and Steph will all be memorialized when
it's a center. That's what he said. The seventy three
or nine No, no, no, they were only they were
sixty eight, and I think they game they won seventy
three games with Harrison.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
They wont seventy three games with Harrison, and that statue.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Noony don't deserve a statue. Ray say that again.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Jersey retired cool, he deserves something because he was there
for every single championship.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
He missed.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
He missed fifteen, he missed fifteen, got hor Robert Harry
got his j retire but he's not.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
He's not a tenure Warrior. He was a ten year laker.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
I think he was there for three championships. Bro, He's
like has him for the organization. He was gonna be
there forever time. Honestly, I thought Loony was gonna be
likes you, a Warrior, Hall of Famer. Why he's just
debatable it should be. But why isn't he Why isn't
he He has better?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Has a defensive player the year right has nine of
defensive That makes a difference.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
That's the thing is that you get keep talking about
what he looks like.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
We got you.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Not a defensive sure, but.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
That's what I'm saying. When you got to say he's
not this, I'm like, at the end of the day,
he's a nine time All defensive player to any team.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Heard you, Okay, let me not the offense.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Let me let me help you out. Let me help
you out. Draymond is very savvy, but the defense of
the wars is very predicated on literally what Draymond said.
Draymond can literally do whatever the fuck he wants. Not
saying not taking away anything from him, but he could
do whatever he wants to. Let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Right or wrong, You're not giving that trust a player
that doesn't have high IQ right or wrong.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Like I told you, I just said, yes, you have
to be great at it, and he's very good at it.
But at the same time, you can't do that everywhere.
You gotta have high i Q players behind you. I'll
tell you right now. He go to Memphis right now,
do what he do. It's gonna looking stupid. He go
to Charlotte right now, do that defense, the same scheme,
it's gonna look so at the end of the day,
they you gotta put the right people around him. And

(25:38):
you say other teams have to. If that was the case,
and you're so confident every team has to, every team
would be good. Why we have bad teams? If you
feel like everyone can build a team around somebody, crickets.
If it was that easy, every team will be built perfectly.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I don't think every team is built perfectly. I think
also having a player that helps change your defensive identity
helps increase everybody's i Q. Like that type of player
elevates you on that side of the floor.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I agree, So I think Anthony Davis is one hell
of a fucking defender.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Damn Is he the same, is the same communicator? Does
he have the same mind?

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Anthony Davis is a better defender than Draymond.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm talking about for sure, the tools, but I'm talking
about is he talking to his team the same? Is
he communicating like Draymond does on the defensive? Is he
do those are things right? If you can see the
whole defense? So are you?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Amond? Is a better defenditi? I never once said that.
I said, is a Draymond a better quarterback on the
defense and getting people in the right spots of communicating?
I'm asking that question.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
He said he's a better He said he's a better
vocal defender, better team defender rather than individual individual. It's
not clob We know he can't touch Anthony Davis, but
maybe as a team defense is running the team, running
the defense and being that that that guy, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Hey, Steph, look for this and that. You know, if
you have a five that can talk, that that talks
and sees the whole defense, that changes your whole defense completely.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
I can't see dre I can't see a d not
being that.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I'm not saying he is or he isn't.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
I just know Draymond Raymond more vocal. Yes, who's a
better defender, Rudy or Rudy, Rudy or Draymond. I'm gonna
go with Draymon because because well I'm gonna say it,
because Raymond can guard on the perimeter. I don't think
Rudy can. I've seen Draymond gar on. You know Rudy
has four No, No, I'm not saying that, Charlie. You

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just you asked me a question. I did, and and
I'm giving you my answer, and I'm giving you why.
I'm saying that Rudy is a great defender because Rudy
changed shots. You say what you want to say, like
if you don't like him, you don't like him. But
motherucker got four defensive you know you got four of them.
But Draymond to me, is a better one because Raymond
can guard one through five rewards. Yes, for sure, you're

(27:56):
a numbers guy.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Just so you guys know, you guys should join discord
because you guys, if you ask us questions, will bring
them up here like this Rudy one, and make sure
you guys joined the link, shouted Oasis as well. But
as soon as this go ahead, my phone, as soon
as this drops will talk about who's a more impactful player,
roll the ball out no resumes Rudy Gobert or Draymond Green.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
I just don't like when people say Rudy is the
most overraty defensive player. How does he overrated? I'm a
big advocate to the guy, bro I see because he's You're.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Just doing that because you know THEO don't really fuck
with him.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
We know that with him either.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I don't think ray doesn't.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Rudy is. Rudy is a good defensive player because he's
an elite shot alter. I give him that, he could
block shots, he could do all that stuff. But like
I think there are way I think there are more
impactful guys. So why white Draymond? They went in the
league at the same time. Why Draymond doesn't get it

(29:00):
he's a better I think we got the wrong people.
I think he should.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I think we got to more than one.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
It was it was at times that I didn't even
think about Rudy as being a defensive player. The year
one year and it was like, oh, Rudy Gobert won
defensive player. YEA, I'm like what, I didn't even know
he was in the top three. That year that particular year.
You know what I'm saying, because for some reason they
don't give it to guards. I feel like it was
some guards that should have got it when he got
it a couple of times.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Tony Allen doesn't have a decent player.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
All I'm saying is, if we're gonna throw out stats
to Holiday, don't have them. And if we're gonna throw
out Draymond's stats, he got one defensive play, he's nine
times all teams whatever, and same rules applied for Rudy,
then I understand what all I'm saying. I understand what
just because he got the awards, got the awards, he
got the awards, can't take that from him.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, Tony Allen should have a
defensive play of the.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Year, Drew Holliday should have.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Marcus Smart has one.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Marcus Smart's only he's the only guard get it years.
Gary Payton was the last. And when I think in
the love and then it was Marcus Smart. So I
don't believe the depot is actually voted on correctly, and
I think they just look at boards and blocks.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
What looks sexy BAM's elite Lou Door is Lou dort
a Hall of Famer. Let's talk about that. He don't
have their he don't have to still going. But is
he a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
No? Not in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Championships he got a lot more. He got one Charlie,
got one championship to get another one, Charlie. He has
no All Star appearances, He has no no Defensive Player
of the Year, He has no first teams.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
But is his stats better than Draymonds? Probably?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
No, Probably, I would say so.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
He probably like scoring and all that.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
But but why is he not?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
He got more work to do, He got a little
bit more. He could potentially be on a Hall of Famer.
Is that what he's saying? No, If okayse wins two
more championships, is lou don't know?

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Hall of Fame?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
No? Very got four All Stars? Remember how you're looking
down on Rudy's All Stars. You're looking down on Rudy's
I mean Rudy's are how I evaluate is off eye
tests except for uh kareem I do at your bar.
Other than that, what I see is what I go by.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Okay, so this is what this is?

Speaker 4 (31:24):
What is not? No Hall of Famer?

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Not tripping Tony is a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I think he should be in the Hall of Fame
for how good he was at defense.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
No, he didn't win, he didn't win, he didn't win
no championship Boston, he didn't winning enough championship. No.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
But but he's one of the best defenders of them.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
But we know modern so I think as in the guard,
so I don't think Lou dord Is is a better
defending than him.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I hear you for me.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
I usually the Draymond theory. I understand what you're saying,
But Draymond got way more what you called. He's at
All Stars. Lou dordon is not an All Star, has
never been. But why not He's never been the stats
This is because he's a guard. What is he gonna
make it over? He got two All Stars. He got
two All Stars on his team, so he would never

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make the All Star Game?

Speaker 5 (32:15):
What year is this for lo?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
This is year one, two, three, four seven.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
You got a lot more work to do.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
If if, Okay, she wins two more championships is debatable. Okay,
Okay can win, Okay can win three more. They can
win four more, and guess who's gonna be on there
s g A J I got you.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I also evaluated differently, like I think Jamal Crawford should
be a Hall of Famer because.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
That's a great name. I got one, one and then
all defense on.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
So do more research. I just think you should be
Hall of You should be in the Hall of Fame
if you really impacted the game, and something like Jamal Crawford,
Tony Allen, they don't have the best resumes, but their
peers speaks so highly of them, how they impacted the
game during their era.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
That's what is the best six man ever.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
And I think that you should be.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Jamal is the best six man ever.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Put I don't, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I think.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
I think he still got a change am on Golden
State and he got the most six mans? How many?
How many Jamal? I'm saying something like that. He got
one and he got one at the age of forty,
I think.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
And why he's in the Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Then I think he will be. Yeah, I mean will be.
Lou Will don't got much as Jamal ball got three.
You know, Jamal got three three or four? Three I got.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I think Lou got four got the most. No, they
both got three, Okay, should be in the opinion, I
just think I think if you that impactful on the game,
you should be in the Hall of Fame. But listen,
I think what THEO saying to is Charlie is you're
just looking at stats. Draymond to me, is a lot
more impactful than Lou Dowork as a whole.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Tracy McGrady is a Hall of famer. He deserves to
be based off what stats.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
But the Hall of Fame is just not one formula.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Jamal Crawford should be in the Hall of Fame before Tracy. Really, No,
that's wild.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Every time the one guy, he's a three times of
the year, don't dispect team, that's about don't the chat
is going to destroy you. What he's supposed to do,
teammate you're supposed to do was number one guy? Yeah,
hell NBA careers, careers teammate team back like that.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
The Tracy McGrady in twenty years seven play team. Tracy's
last two didn't even count to first game NBA teams
to two, four to three. You can't.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
He has seven seven alcers, a bunch of first team.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Tasman Grady might be one of the best. Uh three,
man was that we ever seen?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Did you watch like that?

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I don't think he watched real question the best threes
we ever seen? For him to put Team Mac and
Jamal Carford in the same sense, no disrespect to Jamal
Crawford because I think he's fucking nice. Nice, but not
compared to Wild.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, you might be wilding that take. That might have
been a Red Cup, that might not be the Red
seven All Stars is crazy, speaking of somebody Wild team
was averaging thirty three at one point.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
He was a school chick in the school Chickilli guys,
come on the rest, y'all shut the hell up.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
I say, I can accept when I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
I'll let you know he's going down.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
That's the fact.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Don't do that. But I we'll give some away, says
shout Jay Middleton. The car's in the building. What's up?
Burton's in the building?

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Was up.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
In the building? No team Max on the first team
we just saw he was the first team on the NBA.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
That's a good question. What I like that question?

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Jay? Moving too quick?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
He said, I like as an individual, as an individual,
as an individual, as a winner, as a winner's Tony Okay,
roll the ball out.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Tony Parker was the motherfucker too. Now, no given was
a better score, hands down, given Arenas agent zero. Agent
zero was an issue. You have a pick, the number
one pick, and those two guys are on the board.
You picking first, about you? You're building your team off
you know I'm going with agent zero. You're not. You're

(36:50):
not confident what Tony Parker is going to be though,
because if we're talking, if we being real, if we're
being real, here's a problem. This is where this is
where Hanks would have used this one. If Gil didn't
hurt Tonio.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I did talk to Charlie about that last night.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
If Gil didn't get hurt Charlotte at the end of
his fucking career.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Bro. But listen, if Gil didn't get hurt Gil, we
might have been talking about Gills. One of the best
point guys played this game. Gim was fucking before not
over Brandon Roy.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Now, Brendan Roy was one of the ones.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
They did the same, They scored. They both did the same.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Healthy who Brandon Roy? They both scored.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
I don't know Roy, Seriously, I don't know Roy. They
both scored.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
I think b Roy will post you up.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Gil did Gidget not as much as b Roy though
was different, not as much. Guild Still, okay, b Roy,
b Roy posted up more. Gil could shoot for further.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
That's good point. If you're talking about and stuff like that.
Gil will take some a lot more shot. B Roy
was a lot more smooth.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
That's a good argument. No, I know, but b Roy,
he's to making six four. They're about to say. People
are saying, b Roy easy.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
No, come on, Bro, you skipped through the guild up
top doing that shot check make the pole.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
B Royal fucking.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I think it's b Roy. I'm talking about b Roy
prime basketball.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Q given the readers was taking a week the shots
game winners and turn around to the problem before it
went in. I know Gilbert. I'm not disrespecting Gilbrot at all.
It was a problem. Yeah, but this is the statue
right here.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Gilbert was a problem. Bro. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Thirty five from the three care can no. You can
see it is that the numbers ain't going on. They're
not changing on you, c B. I mean, what are
you talking about points for the year. Gilbert is busting
that ass. I'm here we go. What are you talking

(39:05):
about this ship, just like how I admitted. You admitted
the eye test. Did you talk about the eye test?
What's the what's the eye test? Did you not see her? Bro?
His name is a Baki. Do I need to go
over that again? His name is Agent zero. He said shrimp, shrimp,

(39:26):
chicken steak, a little noodles, some rice, low main little right,
or you could get white all shrimp. Right. How you
said you get to say we're gonna go viral, bro,

(39:47):
that's not that's not like you.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Give me. You knew though, that was good.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
That was good. Say something that cantonese bro, some ship
bro shout out, shout out to say heavy thanksgiving everybody,
that's everything.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Say that we don't have that.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Nigga just put.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Thanks and giving.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
That's not how cane works. But we're gonna for this purpose,
for this for this fucking show. What we're gonna do
it say thanks?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Are you?

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Are you coming over from thanksgiving them all? So you
celebrate the ship.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Now say thanks and giving at the same time they
say thanks all right, say Nigga and Canton.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Nig Africa. You fucking racist? Hey, can we get CV
a cup?

Speaker 5 (40:59):
See even?

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Yeah you yeah, bro, I'm trying to pace myself. We
celebrated Thanksgiving today and tomorrow, both days.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I did it yesterday to car.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Pulled up, car pulled up? You get an invite?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
No?

Speaker 4 (41:12):
No, no, no, yes, fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
It was last minute.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
We don't tell these other show nobody. He came to
my mom's crib.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
What does that mean? I mean.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Close to the bro that's a great fat that's the fact.
It was last minute, and they was Rob fucking played
with you.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
We were on the same team. I do play my job,
by the way, but listen, what happened was I.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Didn't even get no invite.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
We we we were here at the studio work until
like second thirty. Let me get your story. Were some
content seven thirty Me, robbing Kurt were here cooking up, trying,
you know, grown the biss and then Rob's like, shoot,
I gotta go to my mom's social Thanksgiving. He didn't
know we got to call it. What fuck are you that?
He said, Yo, you boys want to pull up, And
that's what happened.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
That's exactly what happened. He thought it was today versus yesterday. Yeah,
I am liable to crash out, especially.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
On that red cup that's all I'm saying. It was
a last minute thing, but shout out to the villain Waivers.
It was a great time, a lot of.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
We're gonna have a conversation later. Hey, Ray, I hope
you got it on you what else we got, Bro,
We're still on the intro.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yo, let's talk about talking crazy. Let's play Dwayne Wade's clip.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Oh No, Michael Jordan is the greatest player I've ever watched.
He is the greatest player I've ever watched. Bron James
is the greatest player I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Oh, I took Bro, I saw you just did right there?
You feeling me? I thought that and been seen in person.
So again, what he's saying, watch meaning he's never played
with him or seen him play. Yeah, in person, so
he watched him. But he's playing with m J. I mean,
he's played with Lebron, so I've seen him. So he's

(43:08):
seen them my fault, So he's seen and watched that.
I think that's what he's trying to say. I'm not
gonna hold you. I'm not gonna hold you. You make
a statement like that, I don't need to do this.
After I hear it, everybody and their mama. When they
heard that clip, they was like, oh, wait a minute,
do you have to think about it?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Like, am I trouple?

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Did this? Just say the same thing, the same thing?

Speaker 5 (43:31):
Yeah, so don't even do that. No, that's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
He never played with m J.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
I know he did. He played with Lebron, so and
you can't go in that tone and be like, Michael Jordan,
what's the best player I've ever watched? Because you've seen
both of the niggas. Did you see Mike or did
you just see Bron? I heard the highlights, but wait,

(44:05):
you watched it, but I've seen Bron. He was better
off just being like, look, I saw m J on TV.
That's all I got. But I was there, I seen
I've seen Lebron live, that's all. Now we all know
that's a whole different experience. It is. You've seen them
on practice, you've seen the work ethic, you're seeing them

(44:26):
day in and day out as being as a teammates.
You even saying Jordan is the best player I've ever seen,
I've ever watched. Lebron is the best player I've ever
played with. That's a good point. That was good, But
that's his best friend, that's his best friend. Yeah, he
can't say that. Listen a.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Michael George the best player to ever play the game.
I thought it was Kareem right.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen, listen, listen.
Michael Jordan's the most gifted player we've ever seen. That's
when he can't say gifted. And then he's not the
best score we ever seen because we say k D
is the best score the most Who said that?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
You said, I didn't say that, say that, he said
m Jack. I can said k.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Or ever best. M J is the best score ever.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I think Kyrie said because at the end of the day, like.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Kevin seven Foot, I don't care, I don't care set matters,
but m J is still the best score we've ever seen.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I think he's the best, but I think the most gifted,
it has to be.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
The best player we have ever seen, is Michael Jordan.
He's the best player we've ever seen. Yeah, is it Kaream?

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Is it Kaream? And then once gave you the stats,
Kareem's the resume. No, he was changing your perspective on that.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
I talked about about but O G said, you can't
give it, you can't give the goat thing, or you
can't put them a big man number one, because they
never really created their own shot. They always have somebody
to have to give them the ball.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
So that what my old G said, I can respect that.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
You know what I'm saying. It's so I'm like, okay,
when you think about it like that, you're right. So
because when Kareem won, he had magic he Oscar Robinson
Fair two guys who can Who's who's at the top
of the peak of passing that ball to somebody getting
the ball to somebody in the right spot. M J
he bringing that mother fucker down the corner on your

(46:38):
ass post come to get it.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Watch I lost.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I saw.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
I watched some bron highlights last night too. Lord Mercy,
he's special, special Lord. When we come back, it's my
It's Michael, It's Michael. This is my final. This is
a fight on this. I got Mike, I got Bron,

(47:04):
I got Kareem. Ah who Mike Bron Kareem? Oh you
put Kareem third? Now?

Speaker 5 (47:11):
Yeah, I put it.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
And that's a very valid point, right. I never thought
about it like that. Only that's what I got, Mike
Kobe Kareem. That's fair, Mike Kobe Kareem. That's mins that's
my Kobe Korean. How could you not put Broun top three?
It doesn't matter, Yes it does. So this is what

(47:32):
we're gonna do when we come back off things er
Monday on Monday.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
This is what I need?

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Are you stitching me out for bro?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
And this?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
This is what I need.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
This is what I need. This is what I need.
This is what I need for you on Monday on Monday.
I need clips of I need you to get the
best highlights of m J, of Kobe and of Broun.
And let's let's look at it, and let's talk about it,
all right, and let's say and let's say I'm just saying,
put their best hold on. Let's put it out there.
What's yours, Charlie, who's your top three?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
M J?

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Colby the bro I'm putting Cold because Cobe is a
mirror image of image. I gotta put him too. That's
Mines too. So y'all all got cold too? I got cold,
I Coacholo. So y'all got Kobe in front of Kareem. Yeah,
I got to raise theory he's right.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
I've always been big on that.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
He's right.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
So I'm not even gonna put a big up there.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
I can't put a big up there, so fust But listen,
that is so fucked up to the big that's crazy,
but got but listen, this Ron just passed him in scoring.
I know that two years ago. Oh no, we're not
gonna I'm not gonna disrespect what he did twenty one
years fifteen more years than fucking how mean years? Kareem playing?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
I think twenty years Green.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Pled that ship. Go ahead, right, my fault, you're good, so.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Play twenty I don't want to say this. The nigga
lost ten games his whole life, right, I don't.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Know how we're gonna put He's right, he should be
up to take m vps.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
But listen, he should be up there.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
This is but listen, this is why this but listen,
but listen, this is why this is gonna be scary
about Yo Kics because he's one of the bigs that
put the ball on the floor and get his own stuff.
So no, so like this is gonna be a conversation later,
not right now. B two, But he still had a

(49:36):
yah a long, way to go, way to go, all right,
But I'm just saying though, like Yokis could be that
big that we may have to be like at some point,
be like who he bumping out? Who he bumping out?
Yok Is? Top ten right now? He's talk ten right now?
He top ten?

Speaker 5 (49:53):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Fair?

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Yeah, you have to put them who is he bumping right?

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Who?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
There you go. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
That's what I'm saying, top ten, right, who's Steph Curry?
Steph Curry's top ten for five?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Top ten?

Speaker 5 (50:08):
No, no, But we're saying, who's gonna bump out top five?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (50:11):
We know by the end of his career is mag Johnson?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Top five? I think magic top five for me? Magic's
fly for me. Four is bronze four for me, and
probably magic and Kareem is up there too, right Careams
three for me, he's probably a magic good Night Magic Johnson,
I'm with that he probably he probably there for me too.
So yo, kic, good night, you' got anymore on the st.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Your kids?

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Just making a push for your bird is not even close.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Knock on magic for me? No, Stephan needs one more
to knockout magic for me. Steph gets one more, he's
top five for me. I don't care what anybody says.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
One more championship.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
If Steph gets one more, he's top five for me.
But it's all good. Shock is top five breaking news.
Kurt run the clip. He's struggling. He said, I was ready.
What you news?

Speaker 5 (51:01):
I said what we're hearing.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Dominican Republic Santo little Mingo from being entucky to a
Hall of Fame this weekend ride on the Let's go
they skiddy. Sometimes I try to forget how much love

(51:28):
and normally get from my people, man, and it's amazing.
It feel it's good to come back and still get
love of Youkay, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
See what ye did?

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Hit the close up, Hit the close so pee you
see if we hear d R something of meano. Hall
of Fame, baby, you dam.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Today's a big day. Today's a day I becoming immortal.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
I say, Shay, get more thought it.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
I get a duck into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Fame.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
So super excited the day has finally arrived.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Show Time, baby, show time.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Oh watch my head. The artist is the type of
ship I got worried about this ship.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
My head, Bros.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Amazing feeling a little nervous, but I felt good and
I finally made it a pressure so beautiful, beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Hey, send me that you got I need that. He'll
format it for social He so shott to Peter. He
filmed everything as well. Okay, well, well, well what's nice
with it?

Speaker 4 (53:40):
That was Dingratulations Brodie, Charlie, Lex Lucy say you like
an HBCU chat is lethal, chat is off? Oh my god,
I look like a Dean brought us.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Man.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Yeah, bro I like it though.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
That was good. That was good.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
So just so everybody knows around, Uh, about fifteen minutes
before we end the stream, we're getting some food, right,
Rob plugged us in, got us some food from soul
Full treat Bites in Addison and Frisco. So you get
some food, break some bread with us before we Professor
give thanks. Right, But anyways, professor, professor un let's talk

(54:31):
about Kawhi Leonard. Did y'all see his comments yesterday? Yeah,
let's pull the pull up the video.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Kurk.

Speaker 7 (54:36):
You guys have obviously had some unfortunate circumstances.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Like you said, you missed time.

Speaker 7 (54:39):
Brad has been out for the year, but in previous seasons,
that it hasn't been totally known for this group to
have guys in and out, and they've still kind of
found ways to stay around five hundred and above five hundred.
What do you think is the difference with this group
where it's been such a struggle to kind of sustain
some of the blows you guys are taking early.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
You just got to get the right land ups on
the cord. I guess, you know, get some more talent,
play play with better talent and see what happens.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
You said, get more talents that like internally externally I'm.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Saying, like playing better. I think we all just got
to play better, make shots with the ball a little
bit more, trust one another, and just get better.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Do rad Kawhi is different, that's different feeling. He said
we need to get better talent. I mean I think
he slipped. I think he slipped up.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Clean, he cleaned a little more talent.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
They play. You watch the game?

Speaker 2 (55:36):
No I didn't, but they.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Did.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
You watch the game?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I know they started his See who play?

Speaker 4 (55:43):
See who played last night? I saw.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I know they started his gut Kobe Sanders. I know
that off the bench he started one game.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
He started a couple of games. They had a lineup out.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
There, but they're injured.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
That was nasty.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
But they're injured, right.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
I mean Brad Bill is going for the season, so
that's fair, but that's not the team. I mean, they
got Collin talent, talent, low pass talented, but you.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Gotta say talent, we just need to get healthy.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Done different conversations. Talented, Chris Paul talented, right, very talented,
but he's he's forty one forty. You can't say that
when the other guy and the other team is forty
one too, and a damn near tripper double, right, and
he got Luca and all over there with him. I'm
just not a very good just not a good James

(56:28):
Harden not a good basketball team. Is a good player, Yes,
he's good. James Harden a good player. He slipped up
for show. He slipped Talent's a good player. He slipped
up and he cleaned it up. He was like, you know,
we got he slipped up. No, he said what he
did when they came back, that came back. Hold on
what you say, wild you need more players? He was like, no, no,

(56:50):
we just gotta play bats.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
But the word is we need to get healthy again, right,
not more times.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
What's soono is he heard?

Speaker 5 (57:02):
That's a good question.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
If he's there, Yes, he's hurt.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Right, I don't think so it's I mean he I
know his trainer a little bit.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
Breaking news Clippers Starn, Dwight Howard, and Rudy Gay.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
I look, but I think I think Bogie's okay. I've
seen him playing a couple of games. Breaking news. But
Eric Jones Jr. He played six minutes out. He's out.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
There.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
Jones hurt.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
He played, and it's their defense.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Bog's out to Derek Jones is out out.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
So yeah, they missing some guys.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
I mean, listen, like talk about even when they were healthy,
they weren't a really good team.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Yeah, they're just not a big he gonna be it
ain't working?

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Answer right there?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Take the Clippers off TV. It's nat an lot.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
The arena is fire though.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Tough.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
I mean I was there.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
No, No, That's what I'm saying. That ship was fire, bro.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
You want to pull the tweets and experience the Tyler commons.
I know a lot of people say next man up,
But if your best players making sixty million and your
next man is making four hundred thousand, it's not really
the same.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
That's what James. That's what James was doing before Kawha
just got back. James was playing with a lot of
guys that they ain't making a lot of bread. No off,
somebody gotta get curt off. That is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
It's timing though, curse timing. Sometimes it's just they got
They don't really have a good basketball team.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
But it's crazy. In the beginning of the year what
we thought we thought they would be.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I had the top six though, but I did not
have them like you, guys are contending for championship.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
On paper, it look good, man, I don't think that
they did. They look good. They did look that good.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Lawrence Frank that's a GM fire him.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Yes, Why is he continue to get chances? Huh, that's fair.
What are we talking about? He's been He's been there
since fucking since me since. So what are we talking about?
And what they've been to one? They've been to one

(59:17):
two Western Conference finals. If you built teams to fucking
get there, so why are we not holding the same
accountability as other teams? He just went to the finals
two years ago, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, but Nico was a different conversation here we go.
Is it not a different conversation with why they fired Nico?

Speaker 4 (59:42):
I mean, does Clippers look any better getting rid of
sh They're injured, right, the Clippers look any better getting
rid of.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
You thought that, dude, it was gonna move.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Keep going off my damn question. The Clippers look better
than giving up Shay.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
For the first three years, they look like they could
win a championship. We thought that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Do they look any better giving up Shay? Answer the
question after what we've seen, do they look any better? No,
You're right, Dallas does not look better since they gave
up Luca. Push the goddamn button. I'm thinking they have
not looked good since they gave up Lucas.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
So the question is did they look better after giving
up Shay? Yes, because twenty twenty everybody thought they were
gonna win, but COVID happened. So yes, I will answer
the question with the Clippers. Bio, I just answered your question.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
I like that petition. He asked your question.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
I answered your question yes, because they look like they
were gonna win the champion in twenty twenty before COVID happened.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
So and I told you better. I think they wouldn't
have the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Were better, but I'm saying they did look better than
before the trade to Chafer.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
But once again off the track record, just like how
you said hypotheticals. So I'm gonna go back and rebuttle
your question. You said you got to see what this
team looks like with Kyrie and Ad right, you got
a feeling they would look good.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
Correct, So why fire Nico?

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
It's a good question, A good question.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Good question. I like when we make you quiet, because
you just get quiet.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
I like doing any questions.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Bro. You know the Draymond thing, you know, like the
you know, I right for Michael said what.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
I'm saying there For a long time, he said CV
to the Clippers. It is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
That's crazy, Clippers.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Why does he Why does he keep getting opportunities? Bro,
He's wasted good teams.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
But it was health.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
I mean I'm even talking about before then.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Bro. I don't think he was a gym back then. No, GM,
it was dark at one point. Then they removed stuff
from Doc because Doc gave Austin the contract, which caused
a divide in the locker room. Then they removed him.
So it was doc.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
So how long has he been He's been twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Sixteen, twenty fifteen. No, the GM twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen
is right around.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
When you got there, right, I was there twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Actually, no, he gave the contract when you were there,
was it not? Lawrence was a part of the coaching staff, right,
it was probably eighteen nineteen. Eighteen nineteen is when Launch
took over.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Yes, so it's been about eight six seven years in Awhile,
So how long do you get as a GM?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
You know GM is part of politicking, right? Can you
speak the owner's language and all that shit? So, I
don't know. It's a tough one. It's a good question, though.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
I mean, ultimately I would say this, he's built teams
that we believe that could be good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
They have not worked out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
But when things don't work out for coaches, when things
don't work out for gms, they would.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
They get fired.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
They get fired. Do we look at title? What's going?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Can I ask you guys a question first before we
get to that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
You might have to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
You might have to, for sure. I want to say
this the THEO he did. But the difference is he's
had teams that have had a lot of injuries and overperformed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
He's also found guys like a mere coffee tear Terrence Mann.
He brought back Chris Dune because Chris Dunn was kind
of on the way out of the league. Like, He's
made good acquisitions as a gym as well. I don't
know if that has to do with Tayleru as well,
but I think there's a track order record of him
doing more with less as well.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
And let me put this on record. I'm glad Nico
got fired, be honest with you. Damn that ship wasn't
about for his sanity and for the team. It wasn't
It wasn't healthy anymore. It wasn't health like, it wasn't
healthy anymore. Now you can really just focus on the team.
It was so much about Nico before. Now you could
just focus on all, right, how do we get this

(01:03:35):
team better instead of everybody like Nico, you did the
worst thing ever. Mm hmm, you know what I'm saying. Now,
now people can probably actually heal from the ship and
move on. But at the end of the day, it
didn't work. So I'm like, why is it not the
same thing? What are the qualified qualifications? To be a
general manager.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
It really isn't a great question. I don't think there
is any I think it's relationships, relationship for sure, But
I don't think there's qualifications, Like you can't say do this,
you've done this, you've done this, Like you know, Bobby
Webster obviously just grew up in the Raptor system. Use
him as an example. Bob Myers went from being an
agent to assistant GM to being a GM. Like, I

(01:04:14):
don't think there's real qualifications, Burn, What are the qualifications? Burn? Use?
What if Rob Plink could do? Rob Plink was Kobe's
agent and then he was working for work for Nike.
It's just they had a lot of relationships and they
thought they could worldwide. West West is somewhere in the
front office is plugged in New York plugged. And then

(01:04:40):
Who's rose is the actual one? Boy? And okay, see
Jason Weaver like he did his name. A couple of
guys Burtons, Yeah, look at you, look at you now
we ate. Yeah, so we got to the I don't
think there's real qualifications. I think you have to have
a lot of re just being good with dealing with people.

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
That would probably my NBA is a relationship base.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Any businesses right, yeah, any business you're any bit, You're right,
you're right. Shout out to Kurt. He does a lot
of that for us.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
Speaking of relationships, they said, John going to sac Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Yeah, we're you gonna talk about that if he goes career.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Sack made the call. Sack said, Hello, we're talking about
John Morant.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
John Mourant. Listen to me. I'm gonna look at you old.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Let's play the clip first. I want to disrespect job
joh goos. Let's play the clips. There's a player he
can be though, Let's not disrespect him job.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Mhm. He had had the league on the toe hold.
You sure is this guy had the league on the
toe hold.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
Hall wise, Jesus, it's different.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
It's tough. It's different. I blame Memphis organization. Oh my god,
that's different, right there, bro, Nobody's ever questioning John Moran's talent.
I'm just saying it was just a lot of stuff
talked about social media. There's a lot of stuff talked about,

(01:06:21):
you know, And I'm just saying, don't forget who the
fuck he is. He's going through a bad time we
all have. We all had some domn seasons, we've all
had some things. But this man is elite and all
he gotta do is go to the right team and
work right situation. He can get back to this person
again has already peaked. No, he can work. He can

(01:06:44):
work on this jump shot. He's got a lot of
things that he could work on to make him better,
like Siously. So that's why I can't say he's peaked.
John Moran, if he goes to whatever team he goes to,
that's gonna make or break them. True. He goes to Sacramento,
it's right for John. I'm telling you that he is done.

(01:07:08):
I said, they send it John to the corner. He's done,
like the corner, like the block there. But Joall goes
to a team that wins and they have some good
bats and now he can change his career.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
He's gonna get lost. What about Minnesota. He can work
in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
That's all the list as well. Lea point guard.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
Because they're gonna be some type of contenders and they're
gonna compete. The Sacramento not compete. And Julius Randall to
mephis since that's what Tyler Riff keeps saying in our
group chat, I hope you're watching too, Tala, they catching stray.
That's just John keep catching in our group chat. I'm

(01:07:58):
about to lead the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
I'm not gonna Lie has been messaging a little bit
more in in the other child.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
I just don't understand. Like, so if Joah goes to Minnesota,
clearly j can't be there. So at that point, you're
going Jah and Jayden.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Jayden's gone, No, you don't think it's done with Jude
A couple of pieces.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Jayden mcdai's I want to see John in the playoffs
like that's exciting.

Speaker 5 (01:08:32):
He's excited.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Will block the trade? A good point?

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Who letting go? Joh? Why would the NBA block that trade?
Why would they blocked that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
What Marcho said, what.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Do you say? Wayans don't want? No, that's great TV ratings.
You need that in Minnesota? You need that. I don't.
I would move whatever it needs to take the whole
side Minna, the whole sidline, Ski mask why him, it's

(01:09:08):
gonna be a hooking lamb that I'll be fired topic.
I agree, We'll go. I'll go to Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Uh call call Julius riding on picks. I don't know
if that goes to the Pacers, is gonna like no?
But what But you guys don't think you can get
away with out sending Jayden.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
You like John, you like I don't think so. If
if I'm trading with Minnesota, I want Ja mcd.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Reed, I want jam You keep Julius and Jai McDaniels has.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
To be in that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Know what I'm saying. Do you keep Julius and those
two because Julius need the ball and keep that young
boy there with them. You gotta try.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
You go seeing juw it's gonna be either Jews because
you can't have no but you about Jew and Rudy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
That ain't making no work.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
I don't think it makes it work. Is that maybe who?

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
They wouldn't have no bigs? I let John Minnesota too,
like John Minnesota, Yes, because they're gonna win.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
I don't think the Wolves are giving up Jaden though,
I don't think they do it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
If I'm the I don't think you should so. I
don't think you should. I don't think Memphis they'll take him.
If I'm Memphis, you just lost your catalyst defensively in
Dylan Brooks, I need another waii in like like that.

(01:10:40):
That's Jade mcdaiel's I need that. So you keep Jayden
and you're seeing you seeing ju a pick and you
keep everything else? How many more years Divinchino got.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
That matters.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I think he's just on an extension double shock.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
And I think he signed that in New York. That's
money on the table. But they ain't been alone.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
He got he's on a three year. I think he
might have one year left after this four year forty
seven and he is a free agent in twenty twenty
seven eight. So you got two years this year, this.

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
Year yet done.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
I'm telling you Evincenzo Conley and Randall that Yeah, that
could get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah. I think you got to keep Jayden.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
You got to keep it. Memphis get rid of John.
It's a question, Wellmphis, are they open to getting rid
of John? I think yeah, yeah, I think at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
I mean Houston Foot just said do they go get
c J if Jos too expensive?

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
About you see what you did last night?

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
But he's he's good for that. Yeah, he's good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
For you, but you will get c J. Jo just
too expensive. So Memphis is looking for I mean Miniso
is looking for an elite pointer.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
I like c J. You mean c J gona be
the point guard?

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
And I'm just asking, I'm asking the question.

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
No, No, we're talking about point guards here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
I like c J.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
I like c J Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
I like c J. Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
I'm saying I like c J Houston because you can
play him at the two. You still start the young fella,
but now you got some shooting. I want to win Houston.
He needs to win.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Hes Milwaukee's on some bad team Milwaukee, Houston, Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Yeah, besides, I don't I don't like c J. I
don't like c J at the point, though. I like
c J on the ball where he can screw it.
So you puting with Rent, don't like you don't like
him with KD Remember that point guard. The point guards
are not like your traditional point guards. I know. But
he played his best when he was playing alongside with Dame.
Him and Dame was killing. Like back that that was

(01:12:46):
a duo. You know what I'm saying. But what I'm
saying to you is he played with Kevin Durant, Kevin
Laurant at the three, he at the two. You put
the twin a man at the one. Then you got
fucking Steven Adams and Segoon or what say Goon and Smith?
I loved Atlanta. It makes sense for Minnesota, I mean,

(01:13:07):
not Minnesota, for Milwaukee in Houston. For me, I don't
mind him in Houston, but I think Milwaukee needs him more.
They do as far as need Milwaukee needs to Houston.
You got a better chance to win the Chip.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
You got better. I think Milwaukee you have a better
chance of making up the conference. So yes, you might
have a better team, but the Western Conference you gotta
go through.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
Very valid.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Okay, see, you gotta go through Denver, very valid. I
think if you put CG in Milwaukee, don't lose too much.
I think Milwaukee might become one of the favorites. That's
just my opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
That's a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
So let's talk about it. Today is a big matchup
and man goes to Okay, selet's run the clips. Kurt.
This last game he played, record gonna be one that's
about to say, that's how y'all feel. Shot no shots,

(01:14:03):
they lose night.

Speaker 5 (01:14:05):
Okay, he been resting too. They had a game in
a minute. Youtended is dirty in the discord.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
He always DoLS us thirty. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
They said, okay, see by twenty five, what if if
Minnesota lose the night, there will be a trade if
they beat them the record, if they beat them, I
don't think there will be If they lose tonight, there
will be a trade. Well, guess what it's gonna be.
Gonna be a trade, Yeah, because it's gonna just become
evident that they need another piece because everyone's comparing themselves

(01:14:36):
to who they're comparing themselves to. Okay, see you you're
you're out there trying to beat this team. Before I
guess the past two years, you would say it was Boston.
Now everyone's out there to beat Okay, see this is
your test. What you look like? We're gonna see tonight. Okay,

(01:14:56):
see it is eighteen to one. I told y'all they
might win twin the games before seventeen seventeen.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
There will be.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
The spreads is ten and a half points. Y'all told
you that though, y'all remember when I said where is that?
Where is that playing that? They?

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Okay, Yeah, it's gonna be a tough They're gonna win more.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Than you're taking a spread.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
It will be a tough game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Spread out Okay, he says he's not taking the spread.

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
I'm taking the spread.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Nobody's out. They're gonna win more by the Moody taking it. Yes, double,
who's playing? That matters?

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Look right now, I'm gonna have to take Charlie on
the bat if you want to take a back, I might.
I'm thinking I might. Wait, he says he's taking the spread, right,
meaning I'll give you I might take the bat with him.
I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
He might. You might want to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
I might take Imay, you might want to No, I
think it's be a tough game.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
They come on then, boy, but the hund dup good.
She may not be playing. You might want to chill.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I didn't have taking this.
I'm saying minute it will be a tight game. He's
saying it won't be.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
Oh yeah, you might want to chill. Charlie.

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
She's not playing game time decision. He's playing illness? Are
he playing?

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
Now? You know? Be a little fluidh eighteen and one.
When that's said game time decision, it scares me because
you make bits, you do that, and then all of
a sudden, the game and it's like, oh and she
ain't out. Now, see that changes everything. Make a phone call.
If he's out that, I'm not doing that. You're getting arrested. No,
that's what I'm saying. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
We're taking.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
Not doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Are we taking the back?

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Look? How look how froggy he is? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
No, no, no, if she's not playing, we can cancel
the bat like it. Okay, So I'll let you in
the show. I'll let you know by on the show.
If she doesn't play there, no, no, no bet now
no participated in this morning shoot around.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Okay, so he's playing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
So what I'm saying to you is that I need
to think if I want to take the bat, but
it will not it will be if doesn't play. If
he plays, it doesn't play.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
What he plays? How much is it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
It's ten and a half point? Let me say I
get back you by in the show. I gotta think.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Yeah, I'm thinking, but I want to think that you
think too long? Ye, I don't think too long. Just
make the bet. No, we're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Ship you have to think about it bet before.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
No, we don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Let me come back.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
We did it one time. It's the last time though.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
All right, okay, all right, oasis man, all right, so okay,
let let's actual talk about to do the Wolves have
any chance? Are you guys saying no? What do you
think you want to see from them to win this game?

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
They win?

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
You want to see from them on the floor.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
And I want to see them win because they ain't
got to take over to be able to do.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
Bro can hoop?

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Okay has a defense, Bro, they have a defense. They
have what top three defense?

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
I believe, so top three.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
They probably got the number one offense, so I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
You don't look at analytics movement. That's the number one defense.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
I don't look out they have number one what.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
They have the number one defensive rating. They have number
one net rating, their number four offense.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
That's probably why they seventeen to one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
I mean the Rockets are one in five too, so
it's kind of crazy on the road. They have the
number one offensive rating, number five defensive ratings, so they're
up there too. Damn yeah, the Rockets with you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
They need I need to see something from It's it's
weird saying see something from ant because we've seen it,
but it's like, can you go beat these boys? Nope?
I gotta we gotta see in't okay see is lou
Door playing? Yes, he is locking that out Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
The only injury they have is JW. Aaron Wiggins obviously topic.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
And Lola Loue Door is back. Russo is still there,
may get a little diebolic, might get dibollicle. No, don't
tell him that, because now he's not gonna want to back. No,
I'm thinking about it, thinking about it. Yes or no?

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Man, oh I say no. Then now now you're complain
You says yes or no?

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
I said no.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
You don't want to wait, you don't you want to
take this bat want to take the bet with you
than Burn takes the spout. Youre ten and a half?
I got okay, see all right, so you just want
to see Ant show up.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
I think he'll show up. I think it's more of like.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
Burn is in.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
Make the Step and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
In the Chap.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
Yes, but also chap. Can he bring everybody else to
the party too?

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
You know what I'm saying, Like, all right, aunt's going
after he's doing his thing, but he also he got
ten assists or some ship like that, like if he
got thirty five, ten and eight something like that, and
you get a dub. That's where I'm like, oh yeah,
he he different because he needs difference though. You need Jayden,

(01:20:05):
you need you to do his thing, and you need
Rudy to get his ten eight whatever ship he might get.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
But six seven tough for me to say.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
But what you think Rudy get. That's what we're gonna
start doing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Rudy, he gonna get like twelve twelve. You're gonna have
some put backs stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Twelve and ten, twelve and ten. The nigga gets a double,
he gets wait give me no why no, no, no, no, no, no,
why you're waiting for a nout your phone?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
He's eleven points her thing, he's eleven points eleven points
a game.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
You say, he gets twelve and ten. Way, I'm with you.
The way.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
That he does, he doesn't. He doesn't hold on, hold on, no.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
No, you look it up. I have to look.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
That is the eleven points eleven boards average is ten
and tent on the year. Eleven points eleven boards. You
want to take it, yes or no?

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
I got eleven boards easy. I'm not even worried about
the rebounds. I'm worried about the fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Points eleven eleven, Charlie, you're taking it. No, it's no
said he said twelve and he gets double double.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
He's not getting a double double. Gives her.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
So ten and ten is the bet you're taking. The
bet you're taking he gets.

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
A double dub.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
I say he does get a double double.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
But I say he don't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
I say he do.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Bet double is ten and ten just to get that right,
double double with a double double his double double, period,
and you get ten ten overs, that's cool too. No,
I say he gets a double double. He doesn't. Not
tonight gets these guys. He had eleven to thirteen versus

(01:21:49):
Sacramento without some bonus. He's not getting it tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
I'm glad you said that Julius Rhinod has not had
the best last two games.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Start shout out to uh Mark Costello. That's a real debate.
This s g A played the fourth quarter?

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Hell yeah, he plays the fourth. Hell yeah, there's no
way he doesn't play fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
He played the fourth against the Lakers, so they beat
them by fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
You want to take a battle that he plays the fourth.
He guess that he plays the fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
R eight and ten to night. I'm gonna be crying. Yeah,
I guess his averages. Ray, we got the hunt, Yeah,
talking about it? No more on there, we gotta talk
about it no more?

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
All right, cool listen, Let's let's talk about Luca. Man.
That boy was super nova again from the cliffs.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
It's hard not to put him hot than the m
v P race guys and Lucas. If Luca was on
the Dallas Mavericks, bro, jesus right, he was flaming through.
First of all, they put James on them. What what
caused them to do that? Ship is uh. He's still

(01:23:00):
third for y'all MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
He might be one. No, I don't know. She's going
with seventy plus games, bro, it's hard to not put Shay.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
I just said he's third. Shay's number one, Well, Shae,
I mean Jokis is number one, Shay's two, Lucas three.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
You're staying with that number Lucas right now? No, No,
I feel that one. Jokis two. Best team is fucking Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I got Shay one, Luca two, Jokis three.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Yep, you got Luca two.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Yeah, Bro, he's afterging thirty five, nine and nine.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
Man, Jokis is averaging a triple double.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Thirty five ninety nine is close to twenty nine to
thirteen and ten. That's very cold. Double leading the league
and assists as a center.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
You know, Lucas leading the team in points, rebounds, assists,
Steve and Steele.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
As a point guard. He is pull the graphic.

Speaker 5 (01:23:54):
Please, Kurt's viable player.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Pay thirty five, nine and nine.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
Okay, that's cute, that's cute. That's cute.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
You pull upyka, pull up yok, yok just pull it up.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
I want to hear. I want to see it like
we show you Lucas.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Let me see it fair. I didn't say we should have. Yeah,
he averaged twenty nine, get yoked, twenty nine, thirteen and eleven.
That's exactly what I said right there, exactly what.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
Thirteen and eleven.

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
Let's average. Let's see what's averaging.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Like thirty two five and five.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
And only lost one game. But your numbers got seventeen
and one. Your numbers averaging thirty two six and five,
every two six and five, and he put put beside
his name seventeen and one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
But I have but Brak, I have won. I have
Lucas too.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Of yoga three one fair.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Let's say Lucas second in the West. Let's say the
Lakers end up second in the West and he's still
averaging thirty five.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
Very possible. Why may not get denied debate?

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
I got two words for you. Seventy wins.

Speaker 5 (01:25:17):
Y'all really think, okay, she gets seventy wins on pace
for it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
I think seventy wins. I don't think they get seventy three.
I think they get seventy wins. They want sixty eight,
sixty eight like they want sixty eight two years. What
do they win the year before.

Speaker 5 (01:25:28):
Sixty sixty sixty some sixty some of them the last yeah,
three years.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
I think they're on track for seventy. I don't think
they get seventy three. I think they get seventy seventy one.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
I don't think they lose if they don't lose tonight.
I don't think they lose until they get twenty five wins.
But what's crazy out all this shit?

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Though?

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
Do they win today? To they get twenty five wins?
They can stole off twenty five and one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
They're going to end the year seventy one and eleven.
That was crazy?

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Okay, she's still one of the youngest teams in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, they got two years of this and
then then they have luxury tax problems. Wow. And it's
a small market, so I don't know if they'll be
able to pay that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
They got the Sun, they got Wolves to night Suns.
Then Trailblazers.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Trail Blazer is the only team that got the only team.

Speaker 5 (01:26:08):
To beat on his Trailblizers crazy and they got Warriors Maths.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
And they just played them again and beat them about
thirty something.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Yeah, you're right, but Drew was out in a bunch
of players. I believe it wasn't bad.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
They got to get back. They get they they did
get they get back, they get back. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Clinch OC basically clincher playoffs by also.

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
Break Yes for sure, yes what.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
I get that ship by Christmas. I about to say anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Fifty three and fifty three and ten feels very realistening to.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Them if they don't lose a game for this whole
month and next month, they clinched the playoff birth before
the new year, am I lion?

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
I think they don't be like they'll be like thirty
something one. Yeah, that won't clinch, but you'll you'd be
damn near it? Well, would they clinch because because the
mathematically you have to win x amount of games where
people are eliminated.

Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
That's clinched to me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Yeah, it's crushed to me as well what you're saying.
But all right, ll let's get the Sacramento bro. There's
been a top for the last three days. I just
haven't got to it. Sacramento is on a fucking fire cell.
They are moving everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
What the hell's going on? Can we can we ask
you something? Can I address some first? Take that down?

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Hurt?

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
Uh so, y'allways, were did y'all watch the Laker game?

Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
Not all of it? No, now all of it?

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Were you impressed? So Luca had like forty three thirty
something and then Austin Regis and lebron Uless you Yeah,
I'm allergic to my fault? What's your allergic to? Y'all?

Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
Hear this?

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
Sneeze? I'm trying to god. That was Dominican as fu ship.
You're good, bro. Yeahs soon as you said sacramental crazy
CB sneeze like a fart. I got it. I love

(01:28:07):
our I'm not gonna so y'all believers in the Lakers No, yes, right,
you don't believe on the Lakers.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
I believe they beat the Clippers. I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
So you believe in what Okay in Denver.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
When they played, when they played the fourth best team
in the West, when they play the team agree. I
want to see how they match up against Detroit. I
need to see that game we always dold it look
like when they massed up against Okay. See, they gotta
be about fifty bt. So do you believe in him?

(01:28:44):
They are the third or fourth team in the West.
I agree with that.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
I agree with that. Contending better than Houston. No, I
think they're better.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
I think playoff better than Houston.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
I think they better. And that's where in Houston we'll
see because this is the game is coming up. Yeah,
they're not better Houston, bro, I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
They're better. They're better. They're a better playoff team than Houston.
Houston's a better regular. Yes, that's agreed with. I agree
with that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
But but if you're Kevin Durant, I can't say that now.
I could have said it last year, but you got
you got somebody that listen for me. Kevin Durant has
been chilling. Kevin Durant has been coasting, letting them, let
them young boys do their thing. And if the game
is close, watch what who do they have who when

(01:29:32):
they play? Okay, who used to have the funk with?
Who used to have the funk with? Luca? Nobody?

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Yeah, when you say they have.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Only person the only person that can that can just
like say, can't doing That's the only person that's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Only you can put on them today? Who do you
trust more?

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Luke do his thing?

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
You don't get me wrong, Luca, Who do you trust more?
Playoffs years today? Luca or Kevin Durant.

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
Ain't being it. Amen is getting cooked by Luca, no questions.
Lucas cooking everybody. Bro. Well, what I'm saying is your
fella plays some defense.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
No he do.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
This is when I when I saw when I saw
Houston play the other night right now in the regular season.
You're gonna get away with this. But their spacing is
so bad, Bro, they got three dunkers in the game
and the same he gave Don fit Oh yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
Hold up, are you trusting more Katie or or Luca today?

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
Oh? Luca, Luca, I'm with Luca to this is this
is that your opinion. This this, this, this slim looking
look that nigga moving a little different. He is moving
a little nigga love nigga moving a little different. But
he got a little swag to him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
That's important to say that. Charlie just says traded that
Luca and Dallas was not.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
This Luca in l a fair.

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
It's not the same Luca.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
I played with Luca. This Luca looks different from Luca
I saw. It's a different Luca.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Now he's about maybe I want a couple of body points,
paget lower. He got a different motivation like you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
About twenty pounds later, he's moving good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Probably to seven points five percentage.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
He's moving good.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
Man, Take fat boy Luca.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
This guy said fat boy Luca.

Speaker 5 (01:31:15):
Yes or no?

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
I already said my ansels No he still average thirty.
That's a fat point. No, no, no, I'm not taking
a big boy Luca. This looker looked different. It does
look different. What I'm saying is in Dallas is that
can Dallas use Luca right now? Of course they would
be very good. This look that look at you? You
right there? No cap who Who's ross? You take white

(01:31:38):
cow Yes, I'm just saying today they are. That was
That was our rook I got Lakers at the third
best team in the West. Yeah, that's fair. He got
Houston very that's arguable, definite. You understand why you're saying
that Houston. I don't give a damn with nobody saying

(01:31:59):
Houston has to fix the problem. At some point everyone said,
everyone says this ship all the damn time. Now, reed Shepherd,
my boy, you're hooping different conversations. I've said that, I
said as soon as van Fleet went out, has changed
because there's no different. I literally say this all the time. Bro.

(01:32:23):
It might not be the guy who scores the most points,
but they are just as important. Which, while you're argument
about Draymond is correct. If Draymond is not in that
fucking lineup, the Warriors look different. Fran Fleet not out there,
they gonna look different. In my opinion, they can be
a good regular season team. Gray, I think they're a
good regular season team. I gotta see it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
They can be a good regular.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Even today's a good matchup. They see the dumbs today.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
They're eleven and four and y'all sitting here talking about
y'all gotta y'all. Y'all don't believe in that. That spacing
looks terribley.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
I think playoff basketball is always different.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
We all stopped talking about them in the playoff basketball
because they got a different player over there. Now, it
was good last year without fucking Kevin Durant, but they
don't have a point guard was there. I understand that,
but you still got the spacing is nasty, terrible. Eleven
and four still winning games for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
The Alandahawks were sixty and twenty two, but they got
swept by the Cows.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
You can't have Steven As saying.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
I understand. Listen kew and who swept them? Lebron James,
Kevin Rand's been swept by the Celtics, right who Kevin
ra got swept with the Celtics, Kyrie Irving?

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
So if they played, if they play right now, so
you got you got the You got Houston beating the Lakers.
You got Houston beating the Lakers in the playoff series,
if you right now? What Lebron back, that's all we're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:33:55):
TV.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
I think it'd be tough. I think I think it'll
go seven games.

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
I like seven games.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
I think it'll go six or seven. Seriously, huh, I'm
not going right now who has the best who has
a better record?

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Then?

Speaker 5 (01:34:10):
Who has a better record? Actually only Lakers lost much.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
I'm just saying who would be kep today making in
four versus eleven and four? So the Lakers got home
court advantage, that might help them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
The Lakers have played seventeen games and lost four. The
heat Rockets have played fifteen games and lost four.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
So what I'm saying is that might help them because
right now they're behind the Lakers right so that means
they would be He asks right now who I'm taking.
I might have to go with the Lakers because they
got home court advantage. If Houston had home court advantage,
I think it'll goes seven games, but Houston takes it
at home.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
I usually bet on the best player, Huh. I usually
bet on the best player, and that's Luca Luka Doncic Luca.
That's how I typically decided my playoff series.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
Because he just lost at home last year? Game seven
isn't There was six who didn't lose to wars and
seven seven? They did a green who disappeared. He did disappear.
Kevin Durant is not going to disappear. That's the fact
he Look, I'm with you. All I'm saying is they

(01:35:11):
know I'm Luca's on some different ship. Luca, Luke can
go win that game by himself. He can win the suit.
He can he can he can win, he can win
the game. He can win the game by he can
win game seven by him in a game seven, Luca
can win that damn thing by his damn self. And

(01:35:32):
he got Austin Rees and Lebron James next to him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Yeah, that's scary, bro, that's tough. And I think that's tough.
I mean, actually emails elite too. But I think j
is an elite coach. This is my opinion. I think
is really good. Elite might be strong. I think is
really good. I don't want to kill for that. The
tyble Sacramento, you would be an elite coach.

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
You would be Do you imagine if Ray had Luca, Alston,
Rees and Brian.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
Hell of a coach.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
You don't think Jay's not good coach.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
He could coach. I'll be a Hall of famer. I
think he could coach. He ain't elite though.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
No, at least there I think I think I think
jas you could coach. Uh, why can't we talk about sacrament.

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
Because they're a very bad team, But we're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
About where the pieces are going. It's a fire Saler there, you're.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
Tired of Sack.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
No, Diddy, that's crazy, Like, what what's exciting about sacclemunt?

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
We can move on?

Speaker 6 (01:36:36):
Then?

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
Who can let me ask you this? No, we can
talk about it. Let's talk about it. We don't have
to move on. Talk where do you think the mart
we talk who? Who do you think that Martha.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
Rosie can go.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
The Clippers.

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
For who?

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Who?

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
They ain't gonna like teams are gonna get excited. No,
this no disrespect to none of the players in Sacramento.
I don't see another team getting excited. Oh I want
I need this guy. They can help my team.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
The bonus can't help a team.

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
That was to camp. Team Troer can help a team.
Rust can help a team. The market help, but they
can't help themselves in Sacramento.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
It's sacked.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
The pieces don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
Who like Sack?

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Like, Hey, these two said they're a playoff team.

Speaker 4 (01:37:25):
They did I believe and they're like, oh Russell Westbrook Sacramento,
Oh my god, fucking my man over this? Oh my god,
Oh my god, that's the real question. Does somebody take
a chance on rests Houston?

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
It is over?

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
So I like to see Russe.

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
He's so crazy that you say it's over. He's playing
the best?

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Reason?

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
Is he the one that is playing the best out
of the reason. The reason why I say is over
because Sacramento was signed on the last day.

Speaker 5 (01:37:59):
You didn't get he signed, and fucking you.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
Can get rust for cheap right now. Hold on, though, Ray,
listen to me. This is what I'm saying. You drunk,
think about this. Give me a second, Give me a second,
give me. Can I get the floor for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
You can get a ship off, then get my ship.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
Let me get my rocks off. Where's your brother with
the food?

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Fact?

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
That's all I'm thinking about.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
I got a text he said he'll be at twelve
fifty twelve fifty Sho're gonna be over our show one's
at one, So.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
We're gonna eat for ten minutes. I'm trying to eat man.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Giving with their viewers, y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
I'm gonna eat my ship back there on camera, Hold on,
hold on, hold on, Russ sign with the Sacramento can
at the last minute.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Okay, heard you, right, yep?

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
So what does that mean?

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
That means nobody else wanted them? And now you see
he hooping and now he's.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
Still hooping because he was hooping in fucking Denver and
only one team gave him a chance.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
Okay, now the other teams will because now they have
a fire cell.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
No one's gonna get excited for Russell Will And it's
not because he can't play. Because Russell Rush, I mean's
Westbrook can play. He can play, but nobody's gonna give
him a chance, right they will? I don't think so,
because Sacramento was the last team that gave him a chance.
And understand because nobody else really needed that right now,
But now we know been in seasons, so people making

(01:39:28):
some changes now, people clearing not what they need. What're
you gonna need to point guard? He's not going back there.
What's you gonna need to point guard Minnesota? If they
don't get job. He can't help Minnesota defensively, he can
help and you can help him. Just not not a
good spot. I don't see it. And you don't got
to give up that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
I'm saying that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
You know how political the league is Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
They're not gonna fuck with Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
That's what I said was he should be playing. I'm
saying he should be playing a team ain't gonna you know,
the league is not gonna fuck with him? Why because
he was already you know, he's you get labeled, right
if they trade him from Sacramento, the team that gave
him the one chance, is basically saying he's a fucking uh. Basically,

(01:40:19):
he's gonna not throw dirt on his name. They trading everybody,
know what I'm saying. They traded everybody, so you know,
while we're rust stay there. As as old as he
is in the league, and all these years, he wants
to win. So if you trading everybody, why would I
want to stay?

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
He wants to win. But he goes to Sacramento. I mean,
you look at that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
That was gonna think he had. That's yes, That's what
I'm saying. You know what happens when you play well
DeMar to Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (01:40:47):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
If the mar goes to Cleveland, does dawn't have enough?

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:53):
You gotta get rid of Hunter.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
I'm asking a question if you have any other excuses
gotta get rid of Hunter. No, okay, that's it. You
know who could use a lot of the players from Sacramento.

Speaker 4 (01:41:06):
Lamar and Don in the back court.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
You said he needs someone else that can score. Like
what like that's something that can score?

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Yeah, or you could just keep doing at the point.

Speaker 5 (01:41:14):
Fuck it?

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Who a team that could use a lot of pieces
from Sacramento as we talk about their benches, nasty Toronto
all could take some of the contracts, get some young players.
I'd pick someone up from Sacramento.

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
I agree, and bring him off the bench. I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Well, you might put Walter h Walter's on the bench
and get Zach Devine to put with that with that squad,
or maybe it's Dennis start now.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
I mean, if Miami got Dennis Schroeder, you're still starting
young fella Mitchell.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Yeah, mm hm say that again.

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
If Miami got Schroeder, like bro, if Miami got Shroder,
you're still starting Davion Mitchell. I am why I'm bringing
Dinner off the bench and let him do what you do.
That's fair, But then still players working, because at the
end the day, Dinner still want to If he go
to Houston, Houston, then Dinny still want to score the basketball.

(01:42:07):
I agree with you, so let him come off the
bench and do his thing, young fellow. He's more of
a runner team and be a facilitator. Sacramento is also
not just gonna give their players away for nothing. They're
gonna want something. So who you're gonna give up exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
I think the reason I feel Toronto because I think
Toronto has a lot of good young talent and they
still got some draft capital.

Speaker 4 (01:42:26):
They said, while y'all was the players who got to
answer this one? While y'all players, while y'all were playing,
which city he had the best strippers?

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
I can tell you I have no problem man the
best strippers.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
I was a gentleman's club connoisseur. That's just fact. I
have no problem saying that. Who is it?

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Like, I like, just gotta be second floor, my Miami
Miami flout, second floor.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
I got it. I like, you know what, right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
I have no problem the fact that you said I
was this gentleman's clubs called sword, that's the next clip.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
I know it's not. I have no problem, that's it.
No shame in my game. This is back in my prime.
Though for sure, I'm a band now. Is that second
floor heard you flow us popping Cleveland was a sleeper clean.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
That's where it's forty eight point game came from. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
Yes, I'm a nice I see your boys, and I
answering the question I'm over here. Yeah, you boys got
quiet quick. The second man though, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Can I talk yo?

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
What could I talk on? No?

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
Want to talk about? This depends what you better talk about.
All year before you saw me there ran into you
one time. Huh.

Speaker 5 (01:44:10):
You read it to be a lot of times, ran
into you by yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
That's crazy. Something just said, c us mess around with
my auntie one Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
Said that hoping, Holyoiva is crazy head Montana. New York
City had some good ones right in New York City.
Got some great ones in Queens. Yeah, I seen you there,

(01:44:52):
ran into each other. You mess around with my auntie?

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Probably, he said, Probably someone that used to hit Jackson Heights.

Speaker 5 (01:45:01):
Jackson Heights?

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
Is there ain't no joints in jack Jackson Heights? A storia?
Come on, t a historia? A story?

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Are you telling us the story?

Speaker 5 (01:45:12):
You said, no, story? Story is a city.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
No. I thought you said story reminiscent right now. I
thought you said he had a story.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
For no a Storia lot of the riviers. Man under
the I didn't want to say, you said, Okay, I
ain't want you know what's that?

Speaker 7 (01:45:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
Under the bridge is scarlet scarlets. No, not scarlets, you
know fifty nice shoot. But what's the scandals? Scandals? Yeah, scandals.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
That's the name of the ship. Is very scandalous.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
Wow. Let me that's back of my pome, lady, back
of my pome. Now we're talking about when he was
hooping back in the day and they both left with
pink out at night.

Speaker 5 (01:45:57):
I used to go get a little massage afterwards.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Had Montana guy said to say that with the auntie said,
I asked see you for some shoes when I was young.
I didn't seen him. Since where do you see this?

Speaker 4 (01:46:14):
Yeh here had Montanya had Montana?

Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
I actually even some shoes Detroit?

Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
This was Detroit. What's your auntie's name? Auntie?

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
Nephew, happy, happy Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
What's your auntie name? Man? Oh, my god, one thing
about me I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you how
it is. Man, I ain't no shame in my games
that I got, no shame in my name this is
your auntie name? Man had a pause, What is your
auntie's name?

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
All right? Yo?

Speaker 4 (01:46:55):
This s your up? Your computer screen is big as ship.
I know they can't be seeing you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
All right, my faults sit up? All right, let's let's
talk about let's talk about LaMelo. Last week they said
he had a trade request. We haven't talked about this.
Where do you all want to see? And he came
out and denied, said I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
Know my addresses. But Jeffrey Jackson, you you are so
behind in the stream right now? Is insane?

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
This guy just said niche More? Does that ring a bell?
Charlie More? Niche niche More?

Speaker 5 (01:47:25):
What the fuck?

Speaker 4 (01:47:27):
Nope, it's not that nickname is head Montana. We're gonna
move home.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
He's a guy called me Ricky More.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
Nah, bro wrong? Cvlo. Should LaMelo leave Charlotte?

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
They say you? They say you lying?

Speaker 4 (01:47:47):
CV I gotta see if I can find niche More.
I don't recollect my brother's side. Did not recollect the
food man? What is you know?

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
This has been another episode? Do you think LaMelo should leave?

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
Your Miles said that Nip has been the best player
of the season.

Speaker 5 (01:48:11):
Oh, he said that last time. I know who he's
talking about. Now, Yes, it's right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Do you remember him asking you for shoes?

Speaker 4 (01:48:25):
I don't recollect that part, but what just stream might
not be good. It is really reminiscent.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
He is right.

Speaker 4 (01:48:42):
Oh god, I hope I didn't get you in trouble.
Shout out the oasis. Everybody has it passed. It's crazy, bro,
I do remember now? Shout out to oasis. I apologize?

(01:49:05):
Why why I apologize? Back in the day, all.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Right, guys, con Miles Bridges said that conk Nipple was
his best You want you want to continue on? You
look like you want to say something.

Speaker 4 (01:49:17):
No, I'm done. I just remember now because I couldn't remember.
But then the name rang a bounce.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
So Miles Bridges said that Kank has been their best
player all season.

Speaker 4 (01:49:29):
I think he has been.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Let's play the clips ship, y'all said. I was tripping
when I say he gonna hoop. Y'all owe that boy apology.
I mean we are already apologize the motherfucker get into it.
Is he better than LaMelo though? All right, let's pump
the brakes. It's possibly he's had a better year.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
Yeah right now, for sure, I'll give him that oh way,
he got bounds too. Kong. They called him kongker Nipple.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:50:00):
Nipple is insane.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
But but Ray gave a great comparison. Gordon Hayward is
a great, a great, great comparison. Ron I was wrong
with Austin. Gordon Haward's good.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
Yeah, Conakin Nipple's rookie of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
Bro, he is a rookie year Mike. Yeah, if he keeps.

Speaker 5 (01:50:15):
Playing surprise and ship out of all of us.

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
He keep playing like this, Yes he is. I don't
see why he won't. I don't see why he wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
There's nineteen point four six boards of forty nine percent
shooting of forty four from three.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Damn he hooping.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Shit, he's hooping.

Speaker 4 (01:50:36):
Looking like the best rookie to me? Does Lamela move though? Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
Yes, but to where?

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
Miami? Mhm Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
I like that home Long.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
I like that for Tyler Hero, Tyler Herro, a little,
a couple of pieces, get it done.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
I don't think you need tall hero. We talked about Slash.
I don't think you need taller hero. It's my opinion
to be wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
Would you tray LaMelo to Cleveland for who for Garland.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
I'm not taking Garland back if I'm Charlotte.

Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
Yeah, I agree, I don't know, I definitely agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
But so I guess the food may be late. But
before we sign out, y'all want to talk to Tyler
because y'all probably beta his team yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
Yeah, that was easy. It wasn't easy, but we knew
what that was gonna be. Got out to the hills.
Man getting that dub yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
You can't. Y'all got some other ship. Y'all gotta figure
out over there what you mean, huh?

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
But we gotta figure out how y'all bolling? Top five
school in the nations? No, y'all just lost, Yes, like
how y'all bowling? But we're not top five out of
the top five. I don't think y'all top five. You're
out of the top five for sure? Better? Can we better?

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Carolina?

Speaker 4 (01:52:02):
You heard me? What losses y'all got?

Speaker 5 (01:52:03):
Players? I mean losses y'all got.

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
I don't want to play. This's a history that you
can't cannot beat them.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
They're the right there.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
Yeah, we were talking. We talk five man, what y'all
boys talking about? What Carolina with like sixteen?

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Uh? Yukon's five. What dropped two Carolina is six sixteen?

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
Yeah, what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
But your numbers?

Speaker 4 (01:52:32):
Guy? Though, right there's six and yeah we underfeed it.
You loss again?

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
Yeah? Do we play you? Fuck it?

Speaker 4 (01:52:39):
Do we play you? I mean you and see we don't.
I don't care. Where is that we're going?

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
If we do, we're going one hundred Yukon schedule. I
don't think.

Speaker 5 (01:52:50):
We don't. Please please, we don't. Please.

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
No, you do not. I'm going to the game.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Where we play in some you though, Can you guys
imagine if it was beauty? Can you guys if it's
a tournament?

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
Oh man, I can't wait. How to put the bread up?
To put the bread?

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
Put the bread up? That's that's an automatic five and
we can automatic thou wow that down? Wow automatic automatic
automatic automatic automatic automatic. And the league was five hundred
for regular five hundred years. Oh so so you have
to bet regular game.

Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
So I had a bet with Davonte Graham and we
didn't speak about it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
We just knew.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Bruce too.

Speaker 5 (01:53:32):
Right, Yeah, we play, we play Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
You know what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
Bring the money due? No, no, no, no, well yeah,
that's because they're my good friends. Now for somebody I
played with and we ain't on the same team, no
more whatever. But as soon as you get on that
team and another nigga went to Duke or somebody went
to Syracuse and U complace, it's a bet it ain't
no conversation. You talk about my money, there's nothing to

(01:54:00):
talk about. It has to be there. Don't give a
damn of your rookie rob is five minutes away is crazy. Yeah, bro,
let's go. He can't read the signs. Bro, let's go.
He can't read his second linguage. Man, you got winter tonight.
You gotta okay see I mean wait, didn't we just

(01:54:23):
bat though? Hey? Okay see double doubles a double double
double double? Bro?

Speaker 5 (01:54:29):
Oh no, we was spread him for you to double
sure heard you?

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
Hey, chat? Happy Thanksgiving? Everybody showing us all the love
and no rocking with us. We'll see y'all again soon.
Enjoy yourself, be safe. It's gonna be gone for a
little bit. Yeah yeah, I'm gonna get me a nice plate. Mom,
Duke's in town, you know, feel me. Shout out to
the wife too, because she cooking too. Hey, okay me
some good food, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
Some good food.

Speaker 4 (01:54:56):
I heard you to the Baja is thankful for everybody
in the chat and all the love, happy Thanksgiving were
out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
A ways to see peace