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November 25, 2025 • 127 mins

The crew jumps into a lively episode of To the Baha, starting with reactions to the comment section before spotlighting the “world’s best 7th grader” taking over the internet. They dive into whether Nikola Jokic is truly the best player in the world, Tyler Herro’s return, and Jaylen Brown opening up about almost leaving Boston. The guys debate Anthony Davis’ sinking trade value, KAT’s defensive issues, and another edition of the Draymond Green debate. They celebrate the Raptors’ eight-game win streak, discuss JDub losing supermax eligibility, and close with two heavyweight hypotheticals: 2017 Warriors vs. 2025 Thunder and MJ & Scottie vs. Steph & KD.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeo, what's up? Ready?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
All?

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Charlie just called me the S.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Word, called me a chink bro.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's up with you? Bro?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Come on, that's how you're gonna start.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Not call me that?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Almost up everybody first, a big shout to start. What's up?
Happy birthday star, appreciate you, Brody, love that the most
blessed the start.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
That's crazy, broted. I did not say that.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I did not show one time for the coach now,
but you.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Don't ready know. We got the we got the O
g the cast, we got Ray Felton in the building. Yo,
we got Charlie v in the bill, and we got
THEO pison in.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
The building popping. What's popping? Hey?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Today is gonna be a good show. First off, we're
gonna start with the comments yesterday play versus Jaw.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hilary. I'm a fun guy me c if he lost
the bet? What bet did I lose?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
We we don't talk about settlement talks in a second,
but the jaw talk.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
The rey get killed him, got.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Cooked, he got caught. Go to the bar, go to
the video and look at the comments section.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Ray fell double give my hundred backs. He did it.
He didn't all he missed it. It's close. He was close.
Charlie was scared.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
He was close. He was the first half though, but
he can't pull it together.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Charlie was sweating. I was not.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
So listen, we'ren't talking about sediment talks.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Bil.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Are you selling up with Charlie today?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Personally, I can't didn't have time to go to the
what's the name today bank? Did have time to go
to the bank. So I'm not just gonna cost you
another honey, it's gonna it's just a bad Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
It's come that. We're good.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Hey, listen, we're gonna make a block buster trade. We're gonna,
We're gonna, we're gonna good. Ala you see the wife
she on it, Collac.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
It got nasty for you, got nasty, got nasty.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Oh yeah, they're cooking you right. Hey, I'm gonna be honest.
I'm gonna be honest. Has to do this. That's that's ray,
young boy. That's what I don't understand. I'm representing my man, bro.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I ain't got no. It's not real though, got no
to Clay Thompson.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I'm asking the question, can you really give it to
someone that's never been a batman? Give it to Robin.
That's a real question.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
He's never been a batman. He's never been the number
one guy.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Clay's always been Robbin.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
He that says.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
That says a lot about job more than Clay.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Why because we will pick Clay a robbin you will
over a batman. You will because this batman is you
will and he's dumb ass up nigga might not show up.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
You didn't see what I'm saying. We ain't gonna show up,
fucking John Morash.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
I ain't dunking no smoke. Now, Clay may not show up.
Come on, he's gonna be on this boat. He gonna
be on She don't be on his boat in the
the in the water, sailing this head on. This is
what we he't do nothing to me. I'm just showing
my love for John. I told you yesterday, I gave
Clay his flowers yesterday. I know that, So don't do that.
First of all, fun with Clay game.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Clay is.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Clay is a bona fide two man. Clay is gonna
be fucking He's gonna be a Hall of Famer. He
gonna be a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Before we're gonna be a Hall of Famer, But go ahead.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Not at this moment. But nah, there ain't no shot
at Clay. So for everybody in his chat, for everybody
on fucking social media, this is no shot at Clay.
I'm just riding with my South Carolina guy to the
day I and that's what it is. But forget that
a four three is tatted on my motherfucking arm.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, forget John versus Clay versus Clare because I'm not
talking about that right. Also, Amark, you're tripping is gonna
pay his debt? Bro, it's not a debt yet, it's
BET's not over. Yeah, But Guy's.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Correct, Captain bout what because today I woke up today.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
The conversation is, can you really compare a Robin to
a Batman?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Why can you compared Jamal Murry to Donovan Mitchell?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
But what you this is what it comes down to.
This is what it's come down to. The reason we
don't mention Grant Hill with the Great is because he
didn't have the long jetty. He didn't continue for success
like that, like and I didn't watch Great Hill like that.
But from what I've heard, if Grant Hill stayed healthy, correct,
he would have been one of the ones. Correct, But
you can't be. It can't just be what if we

(04:53):
know what he would have been if he didn't stay healthy.
That's what it is with John.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
But I'm not talking about j versus Clay. I'm talking
Robin versus Batman. Forget Javis Clay. Can you compare Donovan
Mitchell to Jamal Murray?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Can you say Grant Hill was better than Clay?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm not talking about those two. I'm talking about if
things are similar. Can you compare number two that's equally skilled,
like Jamal Murray to Donovan Mitchell. I can't do it.
Jamal has never been a number one of a team.
I'm not giving him that. I have Dawn over him
because don is the Batman.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Jazz and number one.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm not talking about them. Let's talk compare Jamal Murray
and Dawn.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
He's all he's saying is can you compare a Batman
to a Robin? It depends.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
The only person I really could think of like that
is probably Scotty, but he was a Batman at one.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Point at one point, so that's my point. Can you
really compare Batman and Robin?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's all I'm saying. Bro and I get where Ray's
coming from.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
You I'm coming from I ain't even talking about basketball.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm just.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
No favorite Tis. I'm rolling with everybody else shouting on him.
Everybody else got him down and out. Everybody is shot
with him. So I'm riding with him. Nothing against Clay,
nothing against Clay game and what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Ride your ass to the penitentiary. That's that.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Ain't what he Listen, bro, at some point there's a
line crossed.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'm not going there. You cross the line, buddy. Yeah,
so anyway, not going to the penitentiary.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
You guys want to talk about questionable crossing the line?
Please play this? Play the clip, and what the fuck
is this?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I saw that?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Crazy?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
This is a seventh grader, guys.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Oh yeah, I know, young fellow. That's not a seventh
Yes it is.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
He's a seventh grader.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
He is seventh grade.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
He looks older than I do.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
No, no, look at him. Oh man, he is seventh grade. Bro,
And listen, you can it makes you what twelve thirteen? Yeah?
Look at your dunk though you like six five? Nah?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
He missed that. They cut the clip. Tamp is fucking amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Look at this.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
The scariest thing seventh grade in the world. How mean,
how many? How many times he reclass? I think you
gotta be so this is nothing.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Like sixteen.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
This is my thing about guys like this. They get
this And like I said, kudos to your boy. He's
putting on the shelf for uh middle school. But it's crazy.
But like we gotta understand when you grow up, everybody
that size, So how is he gonna get better?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
And that's what you really worry about.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
But right now, I just want to see how many
times the little nigga reclass can he get an ild?

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Of course you can't Texas well, he's from Texas here, yeah,
you know, you know I'm telling you that.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I didn't know that. Also, so he recruit boy, you
look good on Florida. You gotta go California or Florida
and we could go on the road with him.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
We can get about we get about two two two
three million right now, seventh grade dunkle like that? Come on, bro,
they'll jump on that. You know that you need to
go to the shoe companies that jump on that right now.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
That's a fact, big bank.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
We will answer your question, bro, soft spammy, I got
you we will answer your question at one point, got
you what do you say?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
How much? How?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's not a point on forty one? That's that's on Google.
No disrespect, that's on Google. You can find that out.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Somebody got this, who's just don't come in here? Bro?
Oh ship right, get my back? Got you might be
that's for you? Hung shot?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Man?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Bro? I wish my man got delivered. I wish y'all
could have just heard the encounter between these two niggas.
Oh my god, what somebody says? Unprofessional? Are no professional?

(08:55):
Right there? This is what's going on in the show today. Hey,
Hong guy eggs on his screen over here? What the eggs? Bro?
Just eggs? Is that racist? This is? I said, commercial break?
Commercial break? What is going on? The little ass delivery?

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Our show?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Was?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Casual? Counter said?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
He said, hey, man, listen, it's an ad. By the way,
it's an ad, Bro. I don't know why anyways, I
need a cut me. Yeah, guys, we ran, I have
to order. It's all good.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
We rolling the Scott.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Let's answer big bags questions because he's he's been spamming.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Explain the eggs? Can we explain the eggs on your
screen saver.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's a commercial, bro as a commercial. It's a commercial
on YouTube. Okay, guys, you guys.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Want to see it's an algorithm. Not fuck it's now
so we don't know about.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
I'll be thinking you'd be over I be thinking you'd
be over there working and ship during the show. You'd
be over there watching and watching the fucking YouTube videos.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
And that's on our YouTube ship.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Check those taps.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
You want to go through. My taps were good, good,
right rolling?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Listen, let's answer this, Big Banksstein files that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Hey, Calvin, what's up with you?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I thought we were rolling. I thought we was rolling. Bro,
that's coray.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Is Steph not a point, but joker is a center.
He doesn't play like a traditional big. I can't tell
Steph how to play. We don't talk about I know
we talk about him often. You're talking about what he
did yesterday.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Oh my god. I don't really know what big Bank question.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Is because he says we don't call stuff a point
because he's not a traditional point. But he says doesn't
really play the traditional big But I think he does.
He's just better passing. He still plays in the post
the post. I don't understand that, I respect of it.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Give us some I didn't understand that some more context.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Give us some more contexts on why he doesn't play
like a center.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't know if I've ever seen Steph come down
court and be like, hey, yo, you get he does.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
He's done that, but not a lot. Have you seen it?
He's definitely done it. I've seen it. I've watched a
lot of it. No, you didn't you see pick a roll?
Hey like this, I've never seen I've never seen yo
get here yo, now you you weeks? You weeks that.
I don't know if I've ever seen that.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
No, I've definitely seen it. I have seen I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
You saw stuff, say come in, No, I seen him.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I've literally seen him. I've seen him after a time.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Of point or point and set the screen. Nigga, it's
not rare.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
It's rare.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I'm not going to yeah, okay, I give you that,
but it's done happen. It's rare. It's rare. Though at
Travis he's like lying, I'm.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I'm not lying. It's happened. Brove his career. I haven't
seen that in the last fifteen years of watching play y'all,
to tell me that lying. All right, funk off, y'all.
I'm deeming time today.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Off off a right, Come on, Scott, wow, all.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Right, let's run the let's run the Joker pass. This
ship was stupid.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Oh there you go. Different. He's the best playing in
the world. Yeah, he's the best. His best playing the world.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I didn't do this at seven feet.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
No all. That needs the league in assist as a
center for real.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Play in the world. Bro, it's done, it's done. I apologize, Winby,
you need to stay on the court. But if Yolk
is just the best player in the world, he can
he can do everything. He's MVP, bro, you can do everything.
I know Luca having a great I'm want to go
that far. No, I'm going all the.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Way there far because you still got s g A.
They win seventy games. Everybody else he's not.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
This happened before in the past. Michael Jordan has won
seventy some games and he didn't get any get MVP
that year, No, no way. Then they gave the carmelal
Ain't no way, not that year, bro, No way. They
did multiple years, Charlie.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I know they gave it Karl Malone, but not the
year the fucking year they want seventy three of course
that's obvious.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Nineteen ninety six was much they win that many, it'd
be tough not to give it to him. At the
same time, honestly, Ray, it wasn't close as one hundred
and nine votes. Penny got two and team got one
and Carl got one.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
First place called the year Carl won how many wins
in Chicago? See.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I think I think what Charlie is saying though, is
that if it's historic, like, if it's a historic pace,
you're not gonna you're not gonna not that away give
it to just like Steph was unanimous when they won
seventy three games, like it just wasn't you weren't taking
that away from camp. Carl only won in ninety seven,
so let's see, and in ninety nine, but m J
wasn't in the league.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
So just because Shay wins MVP doesn't mean he's the
best player in the world.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
It does. Do people understand that, now, don't they don't?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Also, Ray, they were tied. I actually know it was
only he won by like thirty points versus MJ Carl
that year.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
But the record for the Bulls it was like that
that that doesn't matter at all. There's nothing Yolkish can't
do in the court. Nothing.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
They're damn there. So let me ask you all this,
let me ask check this. Yes, Shae is Shay is
very good, but like you can never.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
How mean? How much is jokers averaging twenty six? Maybe
twenty not twenty five?

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Are you ready? Twenty nine point six? So the main rebounds,
So the.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Man is averaging twenty nine thirty, Shay is averaging thirty, right, No,
twenty nine is thirty. As you said before, what is
what is Shaye averaging? Shae's averaging thirty cool three quarters?
Who gives a fuck?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Uh, he's averaging more rebounds, and he's averaging more assists
by a mile. Ain't shooting and he shooting more ef
fishing than anybody. I'm pretty sure he probably shoots the
three better than Shaye.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
He's sixty three percent from the field, he's forty How
do you say he's forty three? He's dominating in every
category that you can think of.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
He's forty three from three with five points.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
That now as a center, Yeah, Kurt, pull up.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
We can pull up their stats, but that's not really Yeah,
It's just it's Shay is shooting forty one from three.
It's pretty much the same attempts, and he's shooting fifty
four from the field.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Holy fuck, she's a fishing as well.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
We got no Shay's very I am not taking that
away from him, but I think it's one thing that
we got to understand.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
This okayc team is just really fucking good. Did y'all
see him shoot the shot from half court yesterday and
like he can't do shit? It was like a pull up.
He shot it and it was like, but.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think that's just like, that's just joking.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
It was a pull up.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
You got to give credit with credits due. Yokis is
something we got to appreciate right now. As Yeah, something
we gotta appreciate right now. It's a neck and neck race,
is joke? Is that good?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Or the talent is not that good? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Like they said the big talent, that's that's a question.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Is Yoki is really that good?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
That good?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
He's really that good? No matter what, how do you go, bro,
how do you do that? You can be you can
be the best defender and still not stop what he
just did.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
What's the last time we've seen a big that passes
as well as him. Yeah, there was one other guy
in history you can you can mention, but Bonus. I'm
I'm not talking about no I know, I know Senior,
I know. But supposedly Bonus would have been one of
the best bigs all time. But he didn't play long
enough because he was older.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
That's what I heard. He was cold though he did play,
he was cold. He could score too. When you think
about this, do you ever think Yolkis can do this
against anybody? He can do it.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
He can do what he's doing against anybody, not even
trying though, Bro. I mean, it's so fucking smooth. Bro,
He's a smooth operator.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Bus.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Why are European bis typically better passes in American bigs?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
They they get taught the game, that's how that's yeah,
they get taught that. Overseas.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
They getting taught to shoot the ball, put the ball
on the floor, make passes. Here in America they taught
to sit on that block and post up traditional bigs.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
And ball movement, and you have to move the ball
overseas playing I understand that. Man. Here, it's more like
it's just really working on their bag.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
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Speaker 3 (17:33):
It's gonna be dope.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
But I would say it's just because you think of
a Vladi. We obviously all good of passion. Marcus.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
We can start making picks now. Though.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
We can start making picks now, but I don't think
anybody's ready. We can make some picks the old Ray
and Charlie, we can make picks once to day.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I had to take a couple of weeks off. I've
been taking like a motherfucker. Hold you bounce back after Thanksgiving,
I'm gonna give a little back all. I gotta get thanks.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
We'll get you got some Uh, We'll get y'all some
picks after Thanks got y'all. He could not do this
against Shack. No, he could do this against them, but
they would probably kill him on the other end.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Two, no problem.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Why But I don't think people understand Yoke's actual skill level,
Like he's.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Skill level the guard shot can guard.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Ask you guys a question. One has a big been
able to post up like that from the field from three?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Like I said, I don't know sixty something from the field.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, from three, and then we got He's one of
the best passes in the league right now, maybe the best, No,
he is.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
This is the last time I'm gonna say something about it.
But this is where I get frustrated with y'all.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
How the hell is yoke is still getting better and
you ain't made a step right as your boy in
the something lab this summer though, right?

Speaker 5 (19:02):
I said that, though, But I mean I said it yesterday.
You know, I'm still holding him acountable. He has to
be better, like he has to be better, he has
to play better. But I'm still riding with him, you
know what I'm saying, Like, I know what it feels
like when you when you go through some shit off
the court and people start talking shit about you, people
start questioning your game, your body of work that you
put in before that ship.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
But rightfully, so you know what, that's cool, you know.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
And I had to come back, and I had to
bounce back, and I had to prove people wrong once again,
and I had to show people and I still could
play in his league. I played another five years after that,
after I got in that trouble, play five more years
after that. So I get I could kill less what
comments say or what people say. So that's what I
want y'all to understand, though, Like just lock back here,
young fella. You are very talented, you know, and that's
all he needs. He don't like, like I told you,

(19:47):
just you gotta right. Wrong people around him right now?
That's how I feel. Yeah, the wrong people around him.
You know what I'm saying. And I'm just riding with him.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
No, No, not nobody else we talk about compared to
him is just I'm riding with Job because I know
what it feels like to be in this situation.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I do, and the stand is too on for you.
Look back, listen, joh good. He signed generational money, but
we ain't talking about that.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
We're talking about his performance right now. I get it,
Like what we say all the time, what have you
done lately?

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Jo Jaw was supposed to take over the face of
the league. That's what That's what we're comparing him to, right.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
And that's the standard we holding him to.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's why that's why we are saying what we're saying,
because we're holding him to that standard for sure, because
we think.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Bro Job was right there.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
If he doesn't get injured. Maybe the Warriors I won
a championship that year. Okay, that's the reality of it.
That's a real possibility. I'm not lying to that they
might win.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
They might not.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
But anyways, let's get to the FBI clip. Please put
the FBI clip. Oh no, is that guys?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Look at run it back or look at he ran
back though, Noah, look at that. That's a new segment
every every day FB out the week.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Investigation on every on like every Twitter page.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
This question.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I mean the cock was probably take I mean he
was almost getting a five second You.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Drop back like that, who's taking.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
The ball out?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Watching? He's just not much of a passer, So that
did that defenit. He didn't jog to that defense. He's
not a He kind of dropped back for the first
half of it running back. Look he thought about it. Investigation.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Look, look kind of standing the run your assaa faster
than that.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
No, I've seen cool. He was cool, so not FBI moment.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I just think he was. I did get a bad passer,
dude grenade about to get a five second call.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Fuck it, throw it. They just don't think he's I
think he's just a bad pass.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
So let's get into we talk about Miami yesterday.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
And that Shi was asked. It was asked what we
was talking about the first game.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
They gotta get to talking about Tyler Heroes, run the clips, skirt,
didn't play bro. He his flaughter game was crazy. This game,
it's like all of his buckets almost.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Hey, look, there's not one thing we never wondered about
him being able to put that ball in the basket.
Take this right now, though, play the math.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
It's true his first couple highest Slaughters's.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Sad that we're saying that that is crazy that we're saying.
But what you're saying, he played the mask.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
He did play Mavericks. It's it's I give him credit though.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
He came out there, performed at a high level, hit
a big time shot to put the team, put the
team ahead. I mean, the dude has been This is
only good for Miami, though, I still believe you get
somebody for him. That's my opinion for Tyler. Heroll, are
you still moving? I will go get somebody from him.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Like game winning floated pretty much.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I mean, if it works, I mean we haven't seen
it yet, right, let's see it. Miami's playing well let's
see how he jumps into the mix of things.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I'm all about that. Let's see what it looks. See
what he looked like. It might work. I think you're
gonna make a move for Jaws. Looking good for the
Lakers right now?

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Is Davion Mitchell starting point guard in this league?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
You know, somebody don't play? If that's I'll take. Is
he the starter for Miami? Yes, but somebody doesn't okay
with that?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
No, no, no you're not because somebody doesn't play. But
the winning So Davion Mitchell is your point guard?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Correct? Yep?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Tyler Harrow, Norman Powell, bam? Where correct? Who's your Andrew
Wiggins don't play no more?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Did you see y'all? Wait? Wait wait wait Andrew Andrew
Wiggins doesn't play anymore?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
So you put who I mean? Who started it at
the point? David David Mitchell, d Mitchell withd Hero that
was that was out yesterday. So Andrew Wiggins and hot
cast those guys don't play anymore.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
No, they come off the pine.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
They got a lot of dudes, y'all forgot they paid
They just pay him right. So with Hero, we're starting
Hero at the point guard. That's Nasty or Trey.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Maybe go after Trey. I know a lot of people
don't like John Miami, but I just think you need
a legit point guard. They don't have legit point guard.
I love Davion Mitchell, but I think he's a backup.
That's just my opinion.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
He's a backup, but he fits with those scores. And
that's what I want you to understand. You start adding
a point guard that wants to score, like a Trey
Young who can fucking pass the ball out of this world.
Like I love Trey, John can pass the ball out
of this world. But Davion Mitchell is going to guard
every night and he's going to run that team. And

(24:54):
Tyler Hero, Norman Powell. Those guys can score the ball
the way they want to without him really worrying about scoring.
And he can hear the open three. That's what you
really need for your point guard. If you got a
point guard that's tough, greedy like him, that's gonna lock
up every night, it's gonna calls havoc and he can hear.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
The open three and run the offense. So what do
you do in the playoffs? Though, that's definitely be the
guy like that. In the playoffs. You sure do.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Definitely, That's what I'm saying. You know you need him
like that in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I'm like creating for you in the playoffs when the
game slows.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Down, Like got your creators, Tyler Hero. You just saw
him create the whole video, so.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
The whole floating game. He created the whole game. That's
that's the type of creation you need in the playoffs.
Is that type of creation getting buckets, then you got
your guy that's gonna run the team, get everybody involved in.
David Mitchell, I like, I like him at the point.
I know a lot of people starting to start, Yeah,
name motherfucker solid. You know he's shoot, he's solid, but

(25:53):
he's shooting like probably black thirty eight. D Mitchell, Who
are you more confident with me?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I'm not even because I know I'm not doing the
Josh ship. Bro John has to prove himself.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Bro bro Navy on shooting fifty one from the field.
But Kirk Kirks got Kirk scroll down for shooting from three.
Y'all go stats, Kurt.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
If you're shooting fifty one from the field, he's solid thirty.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
One thirty eight, thirty eight from that's thirty nine. You're rolling.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I'm rolling over sixteen percent.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yo, b J.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Fuck Bro, I'm talking, Bro.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I'm gonna tell you this. I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I'm not saying eight times in the last minute.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling. I'm cool with it
right now. But that's not gonna.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I don't think that takes the next step because at
the end of the day, you're taking away, Like I
just explained the problem, y'all still needn't address it.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Andrew Wiggins not.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
On the court.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
They can't guard the soul. Gonna play Andrew wis.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Gonna play John don't fix that either.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Though. What I'm saying is you're willing huh, but they
want without Tyler.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
They won without Tiler, So now you're adding Tyler and
then those shine one and Norman didn't play, and Andrew
Wiggins didn't play, So.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
That's what you're saying. You're saying, yes, he it was
his show last night, it's your show for sure. One
of them got to come off the bench.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I don't know Andrew Wiggins was having is having an
all star caliber year. You're not bringing him off the
and he he is equally your best off.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
He's yeah, But why would we take Norman starting the Tyler?
He was one of them.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Either either one of them got rather start, got to
come off the bench, or the co off.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Who's coming Tyler? I'm starting?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Who has the best value out of those guys? That's
not gonna that's not a championship level two of them.
They don't have a championship. I don't got the same value.
Some people are saying that you got to pick one.
Some people say they start here.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
At the point. But they did it last year and
they were trash.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah I didn't.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah, they did it last year. Hero was the point
last year. Unless you trade one of them and go
get a legit point guard, then I get that, But
I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Who are you starting me now over Norman or Tyler
in the playoffs when defense matters more.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
No, Now, listen, Tyler got the most bag. They're gonna
start Tyler? Yeah you got. If you ask Norman to
come off the bench, that's sucking up what he's doing
in my opinion, but you have to bring Norman off
the bench.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Is the third best team in the agree, That's what
I'm that. That is absolute.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
So do you do you take a look at it
and go try to You can't got to move one
of you. You can't go small ball because then just
when you're gonna start get your ass.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
And exactly got bam bam, looks bam has been playing
really well at that the four and where it's hooping. Yes,
so have been BAM in that second unit as the five,
your second unit five? Cannot fuck with bam. I gotta
move one of them. Why sitation? You don't let me
ask you. This be situations.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
You have to move. You have to move on.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
You're not even talking about you. He's pooping.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
No no want no, no, want to come off the bench?
No no, no, not that though Andrew Wiggins don't because
he's gonna have to make the sacrifice.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
But they don't want to Normal probably just came out
and said that nobody is. I'm not a third option.
I'm not a fucking third option. So that lets you know,
read there, I ain't coming off the bench, and he playing.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Like it after seventeen six and five or fifty percent
coming off the bench, right, so already he's already come up.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
But we're not talking about But.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
What I'm saying is that you have the bench. You
have bench guys that can contribute. He have always proven
that you don't bring Hero off the bench because they're
gonna have to say, hold on, he's hold on. He's
trying to trade. He's an All Star. You're trying to
trade Hero. You're trying to trade who else is this Hero? Okay,
hero lea point guard to get you what? An elite
point guard to get you somebody that comes.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
From an elite point guard the point you have a
bench already. That's that's the conversation.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
They do have a bench.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
You'll get you what you trade, young jaw and one of.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Them got to.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
The one.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
We saw that ship last year. It was the trash bro.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You put Davian on the bench with Ya kas and
the who's the other guy? The other shooter?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
With what they have?

Speaker 5 (30:13):
You know, when they played better last year and that's
why they started him now, is when they put it
David Mitchell at the end of the season last year,
at the point and they played, they started winning some games.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
I swear.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
No, this is Mitchell reminds me of TJ McConnell, great
elite backup, big change the pace PG my back up
point guard come in change the pace and just gives
them another fucking tenacis point guard starting. No, I don't
I would not want that for my team, to be honest,

(30:47):
this is like this is for me. Miami might have
a different uh outlook on things, but at the end
of the day, Talan Herro has the biggest value. I
feel like you can get a star caliber point guard
with Tyler Herrow. And also Tone just saying something. Shout
out to Tone and in the group chat, Tone says

(31:09):
something too. He is injury pron does get hurt a lot.
He's injury hero. Yes here just got back. Yeah, he's
hurt every year, bro, So can you depend on him
when these other guys is like, don't talk about dependability
and they fucking bump up John Moran's agreed. You're really

(31:31):
starting to sound like a John hater, bro, because we're
not even talking about joh right now, we're talking about
trading for fucking hero.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Listen, let me ask you to say that I said
I like Mitchell at the point, I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I'm gonna ask you this the point if you if
you bring in the Miami Heat and you got John Morant,
Norman Powell, Andrew Wiggins bam and where he looks like it.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
You know, shout out to bj he's been talking ship.
But he did bear a great point. If the Clippers
on the fire, sell I'm going to get James Harden.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
No that I'm not even doing that.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
James Harden is your point.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I'm not having James Harden in Miami. Well that's a
different conversation.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
But on the basketball court, James Harden as your one.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
It's a live show. I'm not that's a live show.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Eight and five nine Washington Hill is the petty league.
You got one more time to come at me.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Who are you?

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Where are you? Where are you from? Hey? Petty league like.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
That, But he's got.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Allowed to say towards me like what's up? Though? Hey man, oh,
that's a fact. Trying to the Clippers will help back
to the show because they have three first round picks.
He says, I'm in Washington, my boys. Yeah, he got
some homies there too. I can pull up.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
An move on. I'm sure you alright, man. I think
we all have different opinions on Tyler Hero. All good.
Let's talk about someone that wanted to move but I
don't know if he wants.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
To get better it is. I took the shot a
couple more sessions. Yo.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
So Jalen Brown had this this to say, Kurt, do
you want to roll the clip?

Speaker 4 (33:33):
At times where things was looking rough here in Boston,
I've been in I don't know how many times they
put me in trade talks for whatever reason. It was
always something that I mean, it was other players that
the Brad or whatever. I thought the organization was better,
they're paying more money whatever. I was like, you know,
I think it may be time to go. I mean,
I think I can go somewhere else. I think how talented.

(33:54):
I think I can score the ball at a very
very high level. And I'm not allowed to throw the
same like other player because I'm on a different type
of whatever. T Mac was like, stay, Bro. I was like, huh,
I'm thinking like T Mac and Vince. They was like
T Mac chose to leave in order to go beat
T Mac. He eventually was I'm thinking that's what he

(34:15):
was gonna say, and he's like, no, Bro, trust me,
whatever you can do. If you can stay, go, opportunity
to win win. And I was like, damn not.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I forever take that.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Women keeping behind closed doors. Things have always from things
that have been up and down. I've always held onto
that message I want to win first, because that was
the advice that I got.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
You know.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
T Mac was one of the first co signers that
I ever had, like no brands, no organization, no endorsements
on that. T Mac was like JB is one of
them ones and I'm gonna take them under my wings.
So I appreciate Mac for that.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
So the clip was longer, but he gave contics how
t mac was the first one that showed him love
on the DITA circuit because he's in the De's athlete obviously,
you guys know T Max and DIA's athlete, so kind
of crazy that they could have. Obviously the ego, as
we all know, NBA players all have egos because you
guys were all the man from pretty much high school
to college and you gotta come play a role. But
Jaylen Brown was ready to walk away from the Celtics,

(35:10):
but he had an opportunity to win. And anybody that
knows Toronto knows that Tea mac Evince were supposed to
be the next Scottian Mike.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
That's the way they looked at the duo the team.
Mag wasn't trying to be number two, but.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
He obviously never wont to ring and didn't have a
lot of playoff success, so he.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
So he kind of regrets that's where that came from.
He regrets that a little bit because he never he
never he never got a chance to win. So that's
why he told young fella a stay win first, because
now he's winning everywhere. He's winning on the court and
he's winning off the court with a three hundred million
he signed for because you win your success periods. As

(35:45):
Uh Hangars said it, we love t mag home killer,
but what we all say, he never didn't win.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
He never win nothing win.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
I mean Jaylen Brown obviously had a chance to rock
out now to right. But the thing is, I would
ask you.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Guys, this is he's balling to let's give him his flowers.
He's Brown is balling.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
The thing I ask you guys, he's one, A one B.
I don't think it's JT is a clear one, like
they both get their opportunities.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
But that's what that's what JT is the clear one.
Like you know they in the finals, No, not in
the finals.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
I mean Obviously he played better because he won MVP,
you know, in the in the conference finals and in
the NBA Finals, he was clearly the better player. But
if you asks around, everybody gonna say JT is the number.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
One guy, it's JT's team.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
But doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
And I'm glad that he's taking it that way that
it doesn't even matter. I know who I am.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
I know I'm that guy too, and I'm glad he's
taking that way and he's and he's staying and he's
rocking with it. We need more players to think like
that because look at the success they went through. All
they went through for the Ladd, what they went through
for like six years of getting beat, but they were
very successful. Then they finally won and he signed for
three hundred and j T signed for three twenty five.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
A good point right there, with Steph clear one and
all those finals, no dollar got m v P one.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
No, we're not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
The last one. He was the last one. Want v
P kill one in the last one till he was
a clear one.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Number one all the times he won the change with
KD not Katie, but the first one, the last one
was step won the MVP because he stopped Lebron.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
The first dollar did because he played He did everything. Yeah,
he did everything. He was doing scoring, he was doing
a great job guarding Lebron, all of that. So so
he was the number one. He was the main guy.
That's why he won VP. Yes, I didn't say he's
number one, but he was the main guy on.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
That on that final, he was the main He was
averaged thirty five eleven or some ship. That's not stopping Lebron.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Bro why he got MVP then.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Because the media fucking round with a dumb narrative. Bro,
even a good dollars said he should have won MVP.
He said it on record, he said, I won't give
it to Steph. I'll take it. But he's like, I
should have won MVP. Step average like twenty six that series.
How is that not number one? He have like I
think fifteen or sixteen.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
But he did big everything else.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Come on, y'all, y'all gonna say he was the number one.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
I'm not saying he was number one, but he was
the most effective in that. You're gonna get your points
for Steph, but what he did for that team defensively
and where he made timely plays and he made timely
big shots throughout that same thing.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I don't better.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I don't understand why white people care about so much
about number one, number two a fucking team sport. It's egos, bro,
you know why? You know how we get that separate
some real good teams from the great No.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
But but here's the real difference. They're both one A,
one B and they both got the maximum bag. It's
not like he got ye for me. I don't understand.
I understand for you know, you think you can be
the number one guy and you're not getting paid as much.
They're both getting paid mac absolut max. So I don't understand, Bro.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
There's a difference. There's a difference in its human nature.
As a as an athlete, you feel when you know
you're not the guy. Jaylen Brown knows he's not the
guy he knew who he knows who they gravitated gravitate to.
First they're calling they're calling Jason Tatum before they calling

(39:17):
Jason Jaylen Brown.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
But Jaki and Brown benishits off that listen.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
But that's where that's where that statement is huge from
t Mac coming from Tmac, who was in that same situation.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
You already heard what he said. He expected t.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Mac to be like, man, get the get the hell
up out of there, but no, he was like, no,
stay there and win, bro, because at the end of
the and there's no what's the difference?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
No, go ahead, I want to hear what she's saying. Saying.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
No, I would just say, I just don't. I don't
think Jayleen Brown is not number one just because JT
is more loved, easier marketing.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
No no, no, no, no, it's more loved it.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
But I'm saying that's just that's also because Jayleen Brown's personality.
Jyleen Brown is very out spoke, He's very different. He
can rub people the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
No, it's just love, Bro. It's there's something that has
anything to do with Marro. Does it make it?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Does it make sense why LaMelo ball is always his
shoes sell more than fucking sometimes probably Lebron's. It don't
make sense why Lebron is a huge figure. But people
love LaMelo. You can't explain it.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
And people love j T.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
People just don't love JB. That's what they love j T.
That's my point of it, there's nothing to do with
play exactly. That has to do with him as a person.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
That he's not a bad person.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
He's not talking about like your personality. People just attract
the j T. I don't think a lot of people
attracting the JB because JB is a little different. I mean,
it's what he's outspoken and ship.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
It's kind of like but it's some it's some things
that you can't you can't fight, you know what I'm saying, Like,
there's there's some players that's who that's who it is,
that that's the star.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
They can do no wrong. J T can do no wrong.
He is the guy. JB accepts that. At the same
time he wins.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
He said, he is an intelligent, independent thinker. He will
speak his mind. You're not JT is always politically correct.
JB will say whatever.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Is on his mind.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I don't give a fun but none of that winning
or losing, man, But.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
That has to be with you if you being a
franchise guy.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Though, I don't think it doesn't matter. A lot of
people like huh. A lot of people like for different
reasons though what reasons is that?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Just so you just explain the same thing of an
And you just said they don't like Jaylen because everybody
it speaks way worse than fucking Jaylen Brown. You just
said they don't like j T because he does what
Mike Oasis.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I think we like because he reminds us of m J. No,
you know you just say, but you just said other reasons.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
No, personality wise, how the Bravado. I think you liked
him for different reasons Anyways, I could be I could
be different.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
That's my opinion. I'm not saying that's facts. That's just
my opinion on it.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
They both got super Max deals, right, yes, so what
does the matter is when a will be who's the man,
who's not the mess?

Speaker 3 (42:09):
I'm gonna say this. It both got fucking paid, yes both. Now,
though they.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Didn't win, it wouldn't have been like this. So winning
cures all. Okay, let me say this, and does not
cure all. But this is one thing I want for sure.
As long as we have this platform, I will always
praise j T and JB for this because they are
more of.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Let me put this right away.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I'm not gonna say men, but more mature than a
lot of athletes to be able to do what they're doing.
As long as they've done it. A lot of guys
that we know cannot do it. It been coexistent, they
couldn't do it. J T has brought j T understands
he needs JB, and JB understands that he needs j
T because what they win, they rather win than have

(42:57):
what we talk about all the recognition. You see what
I'm saying, and that's what you know them ass because
everyone if you're a Jaylen Brown saying they.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Will j T gets sold the recognition. But JB did this.
He's the m v P.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Well, j T was on the court too. He needed
that motherfucker. So they both understand that. And they're both
all going out there and hooping. So kudos to both
of them, all right, man, And he proves that he
could be a number one somewhere for show.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
He is balling every night.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Let's talk about it. Anthony Davis purportedly has very very
very low trade value. I agree with that, but the
magic should just stay put. I think everybody's on board
with that.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
What it looks like look like yep, all right, Look,
I'm gonna be real with you. You really can't just
trade him for nothing, did it? Really looks stupid at
this point. Rite it out right, everybody on the board
with that, get healthy, healthy, and see what it looks

(44:03):
like when he comes back. Because his trade value is
nonexistent I mean rightfully, so you have to.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Trade him for another injured star.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
You can't or you can't even take You can't even
take a chance on him.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Bro, you could no for like another injured star.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
I'm saying you can swap him Kawhi. Nasty.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying theoretically, I'm not saying
you want theoretically how it is a D thirty two.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I still don't think that makes sense. And I'm a
huge Kauahi fan. Now we talk about somebody ain't playing
playing Kawhi, I mean shipped a D out there too.
In fact, that Cooper's played more games than a D
in Dallas. It's a diabolical stat. What's going on with
COI he coming back?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
He just came back last game. Yeah, so he'll be back,
and he was back next week or so, is like questionable.
He'll be back next week or so, he went.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Now see what it looks like.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
But you can't see what it looks like to.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Your game out of the playing. That's what's crazy. That's nasty.
That is nasty. How bad they've been playing, they're still
they're a game out of the playing. That's what. I
still got hope for Indiana. Why do you have hope
for Indiana? Bray money on the ray did not settle,

(45:22):
by the way, guys on that deal, I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta talking it too, said a d drink coching Ray.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
You're you're You're seven and a half games out of
playoff contention.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
It's not bad. At a lot of games left. It's
a lot of games it can change. That's what I say.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
It's a lot of games left. So I got a
little hope left and double it. No, that's that's your
real one. What's something gambler. I'm a real one, but
I ain't stupid.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Fucking Charlie bro All right, anybody got anything left on
the eighty top?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I don't think as much as say, just gotta see
what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Man, they just got hopefully see what it looks like.
At this point, you got to ride it out.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
That's it. Let's see because it.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Could be a high reward. Do my comeback healthy at
fun turn this ship around. Everybody hy fucking and he works.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
I'm with you, all right.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Listen, we sent this clip in our little group chat
Cat and Michael. Let's play the clip.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Oh yeah, I've seen this, My damn nigga. What the hell?
This one's crazy nigga boxing out?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Is he just bad defensively or effort?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Like? What did you just see? Did you did you
see a good defender? Let's play it one more time.
I'm moent i Q or you just lack of effort?
That looked like me out there? He is Dominicans. Dominicans

(47:10):
don't say that. One's crazy that they love to shoot
the ball though you don't do that now.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah, we know were talking lack identity.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Maybe that's it.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I don't know, bro, I don't think New York's not
good this year. I think they got figured out. They're
not that good defensively. And that's what's crazy, because very
good defensively and O G being out that's hurt.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
That hurts. He's not out there right now, No, he's hurt.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
It's tip the personnel.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Tims is a defensive defensive the coach person personal opinion.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Listen, let me say this. I love Cat Cat is
a great score Charlie guy, you know, and he's not
great defensively, Bro, And I think that hurts That hurts
them a lot, you know.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
And I.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Said this early on. Man, I love Cat. You know,
I got love for him. I got love for his family.
You know what I'm saying. His pops is you know,
it was a cool dude. And when I go to
New York, you know, he always showed me love. But
I just gotta be honest in this situation, Johannis to
New York looks real good right now? You need some

(48:23):
help back there. Defensively on a perimeter. You got some
great defenders. You got some great defenders on that perimeter.
But in that paint, it's looking scary. Mitchell Robinson ain't
in the game, and he gets some foul of trouble
a lot. Sometimes he's injured. Who you just saw what
that looked like. Bro, That's bad.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
That's bad. Yeah, it looks bad. You know what I'm saying, Bro,
Is it that he just can't he's just not good
on the defensive end, or he's just that was an
effort with you, just effort. That was effort, Bro.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
He's historically not been that great defensively, Like I love Cat.
I think Cat is a very talented talent. Yeah no,
I mean Cat's always been now in college though, the
only thing in college you can sit.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
In the paint. Didn't he play beside? You can sit
in the paint before you get to the NBA the
three seconds matters?

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Then play beside Willie?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
What the will I keep telling you you can sit
in the paint.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
And I understand it, But he played against one of
the best defensive biggest I don't care who the fuck
he play with.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
You can stand in the middle of the paint and
so you're automatically in help and not have to move.
And he's seven feet so if you look at the
clips he's so you see the one that he's outside
of the paint, So you can't.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
You gotta be out the paint effort.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
He's never been that type of guy that's going to
be all right, let me go block this fucking shot.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
So I think it's really hurting him right now.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
So why not get a guy if you know he
can't play defense, why not get a player to hide
some of his flaws? Y'all said this before, I said,
you trade for a guy like you're honest, and y'all
call me crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
No, no, that is not true. We could breakas bro
shouts oasis man.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
No, they need to stop.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Somebody on this couch. And it's not Ray, because I
already lost my money to Ray said that we should
not trade cat for fucking honest.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
I didn't say that, and don't look at me said
it wasn't me.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I said, I want to take a hundred bucks on
you if you're gonna say you didn't say I was.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
You know that if hon bent and pretty, I never
lost a better home you did. You about to lose
right now? You did.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
When you I said what you said and and some
terms that they should need to ride up the chemistry
of the knicks and not trade for you honest.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
They need to ride. Okay, that's what I said.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, you said they shouldn't trade for the honest.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah you did say that time they should because like
you said that, this is the problem. This is the problem.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
This is where I say, even when I talked about
winning cures all, sometimes it really doesn't because just like
how y'all told me yesterday, and y'all made a very
good point, Uh, Detroit might be a pig trade away
from taking that next step with Lowry.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Correct. I think so they might be we don't know,
but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
He didn't want to trade lively for your honest what.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
I'm trying to say is, bro, it's like you want
to reconsider I said you though, you know how you say?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Remember they were just coming off from the fucking championship running.
But when you when you watched these no, but you
need but you need to actually evaluate. You got to
actually evaluate these things. So you just made a trade
with Luca. Who's your fucking playmaker to make likely look great?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
I mean, who's your playmaker? Shot to dett Milwaukee.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
Now if Johnny, if Jannis was here right now, Dallas
record won't be what it is.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Somebody said us, why would Okay beyond ordinary lifestyle?

Speaker 6 (52:18):
Why?

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Why would the what would the book bucks want from
the Knicks? If Joannis wants out, he wants to go
to the Knicks, that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I'm going to agree, that's what he's saying. You need
to agree because you ain't getting better and you're not
getting better than Cat.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
You ain't getting better than Cat.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
What player are you going with? You not in that position?
But him and Myles Turner would be all right.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
He said, it's nasty, but I like Miles and they
could both stretch forward Miles and clean up defensively.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I don't mind that at all. You go, now you
put somebody, Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Cat and two dips of albums for I'm not rolling
with Cat in New York right now.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
I'm this is my thing. What is New York record again? Here?
That's what I'm talking about. Bro.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
It's just like the damn Eagles. Bro, It's just like
the Eagles. They're taking Tom baumb the Philadelphia is a
taking Tom and they've been winning.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Right. Just because you're winning doesn't mean it looks good. Yeah,
taking Tom because of AJ though, No.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Because of what, Bro, They don't even first of all,
they don't have identity at all.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
But the man is like I want the ball. I
want the ball, and they're trying to force the ball
to them offense.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
It cures a lot, but when you it could cure
you all the way up to the Eastern Compass finals
until you play a team that's way more connected than
you are. That's what the Pacers were, That's what OKAC is,
and that's what Denver is striving to be. That's why
Denver's not at okay C's level because now they're integrating
all these other parts and okay, see is the same
damn team as last year.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
So they just hitting the ground rolling. That's all this
shit is.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
We are sitting here going through the same thing over
and over again. That's why Janni's I get it. No,
I don't get it. To be honest with you, I
don't know why he went back. I don't blame him,
That's what I'm saying. Blame him for what bro It's
the same thing over and over again.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
I mean, would say what is different? Would you say
the same thing?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Rollins took a step, thank you. I don't have time
for that.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Would you say the same thing to Dirk?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Huh? Would you say the same thing to Dirk?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Now, there's a difference with Dirk. If Dirk did not
want to go anywhere, did Dirk ever give any indication
that he wanted.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
To go anywhere? For sure?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
But I'm saying, Okay, you just said for sure, So
you answer my question as Johnny's gave any indication that
he would go somewhere else?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yes, Okay, that's the difference.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
We never ever heard Dirk say, Man, if this ship
don't go right this year, I might be out of
this mouth.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
He's never said that.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I be honest, I think I think Joannie's career is
gonna parallel Dirk. To be honest, I don't think he's
winning one more.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
If they are asked this year and they look not
that good. Right now, he's he's been injured.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
They were losing with them, they weren't They were like
they were like they were under five hundred Milwaukee's they're
eight and ten.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
I got there, Yeah eighty.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I think they're eight and six.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Before you got hear or something like that. Yeah, they
might have been eight and eight hot, like four in
a row. They lost five. He'd been out the two games, eight.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
More games you got injured against the Calves in the
first quarter.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Who they played?

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Who the Calves, the Sixers, the Pistons and the Trailblazers
because they played yesterday year right, Yes, So they're eight
and four, they're eighting thing without him. They were eight
and six before he got it hurt.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
So y'all rolling with Joanna's You think jan has made
a good decision going back. I'm not saying championship level team.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
No I say that.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
This is one piece of pie.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
He said, he wants to win one piece of way
to get out the East.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
What okay, the East depends on what piece? No I
said there one piece away getting out these depends on
what piece.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
You're right, They better go to the better go Sacramento.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
You can get that.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
That's the only chance. And get who Zach Levin, Jack
Levine helps.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
That's not going out of the East.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
That it helps.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
That gives you another score. You've got defense. You need
somebody else to put the ball in the basketball. But
who you giving up?

Speaker 3 (56:24):
What you mean? Who a bunch of picks? What do
you want? I'm just asking who do you want? That's
what I would say. What you want.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I'm not giving up everybody. Yeah, bro, I'm not giving
up Miuser mileser Yiannis.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I think I don't think the Bucks will give Ryan Rawlings.
I think they would keep him.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
To be honest with you, I'm giving up.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I think you would feel but I don't think the
Bucks are.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
Hey, look but if I'm sacramented, if you give up
Ryan Rollins, you got you gotta bring me.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
You gotta bring Metro to give me exactly you got
you want to get the last few games coming off
the bench has not.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
But if I'm Milwaukee, I need a point guard backt
me verify that I need a point guard back. I
can't give up a point guard and not get one back.
Now you get six nine five yesterday. I don't know
if you get if you give me Schroeder and Zach
for Rollins and because they're clearly going young, they sorry sack.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
The hope.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I mean whatever. I don't know what the direction is.
Joanna said I'm not going anywhere. This convo is over,
and he hasn't. Uh, Johnny Road, he explored free agency
all summer.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
No, no, he said, you're right saying the Dirk. Then
you're right that Dirk never said he wants to leaven
has said that he's open to leaving.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
What's a win? You're right.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
You make a very bad point there. All right, listen,
all good, we get it. I understand your point. Let's
talk about the numb with two team in these.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Oh, I don't he keeps spamming Zach inspiring contract like
it would work. Also, you got if you if I'm
trading you, I need to make sure I get you
for at least two years.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
No, no, no, they're just.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
They gonna sign Zach. That got signed.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
That that's the most money you can get. Zach is
taking the bag. I'm calling that right now.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
So you think nobody else would give Zach a bag?

Speaker 1 (58:25):
They had him in the same bag where it's.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Not like that's the same team. But s where's could
he go? I think somebody else? No, Noel Thout.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I'm talking about keeping your rights to get the max
amount of money because if you go free agency, you
go to another team, you get less money. I thought
that taking the biggest bag.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Right now. Yea if.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
But what I'm saying to you, where's could he go?
Thinking about it? Just just think about it. Where cou
can he go to and be able to do what
he can do right now? No playmaker? Where he can go? Score,
go to state? Yeah, but you still Jimmy and Clays.
I'm not Jimmy and stuff is there?

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (59:04):
I think he could go he go to Milwaukee, there's
no I agree, he could just get that ball in
his eye. Exact, he go get us a shot, go
get a bucket for us. I'm rolling he's coming in
right away. They got to throw the ball.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
The only thing is they don't I don't even know.
I does Milwaukee have the money to do it? Yeah,
he's a free agent.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
No, no, no, no, no, no, he has a team option.
I just read he has a player.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Let me know. We need to get the real facts
about this. Was he a free agent? He has a
player option in twenty twenty six? Twenty seven? Who's this?
He has a player option?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
But you still got got pieces. We're saying he gets
if he gets traded in Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Right, he has a player signed. He signed Mike t
they can signed him to the extension.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Well, we're talking about them trading Giannis because he has
to be traded.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Yes, not not if he's that's all we're saying. That's
a player option next year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Your algorithm is crazy? This is the second day, yo,
freaky Curt.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
God you know anything else on your honest No, man, I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Just freaking Curt.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
We were talking about were talking about cat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
He said, hold on, he's ad top bright. Look Peter
fucking Peter's algorithm. It's sound it sounds about right, bro,
it's fucking Peter, freaky freak Peter.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Shout to Peter. Peter is back next with y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Hey, we're backing full of but listen, Freaky Noodle is crazy.
That was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
That was so hey, shout out Todasis. Y'all joined the discord.
We'll be doing the play back next week. We're gonna
let y'all play back. Yeah, y'all tell us what game
y'all want us to do? Next week, we'll put a
void on pulled the discord to Golden State. Would you
trade Draymond?

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Hell, yeah, you're not. You're not trading Draymond for your Honest.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I'm moving the whole Seaton.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Stupid say something, say something, stupid. Who will want Draymond?
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Listen, I don't think come on, if you go if
you got Jim, but if you get Draymond, Kaminga, Moses
Moody and and let's say Will Richards and all their
draft capitals.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Said they said Draymond would trade for Draymon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Of course you would trade. I mean why I got
you guys on the discord. Body, No, Draymond is not
the same player anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
I know that right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Anyways, we don't talk about Draymond a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Wait wait, wait, then we got people interacting with us
on this. I'm trading Nis for Draymond for sure. That's
not that's not it's not a question. It's not even
a question. Why don't Milwaukee want that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I agree with this thing, and that's why I told you.
He the one who said Drake can fit anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
I didn't say anywhere. I said there's a lot of
teams you can fit with. Name another one. Bro, we
ain't gonna do this. He's gotta play with some lead shooters.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
So he's doing the difference maker to to get him
to the chick I think he can play with Okay,
see yeah, and do what?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Why can't you play with sha Why can't play with
those guys around them? Didn't do what?

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Facilitator? Okay lost one game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I'm not saying with the team that they got. No
one's saying trade for him. He's asking where can he fit.
That's a different conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
You know who he keep playing with. He can play
with the Trailblazers. I think he can play with the Trailblazers.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Turn hons, Mike off. So who can he play with?

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Me?

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Steph?

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
That is it?

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
He can only playing Golden State y'all disrespectful.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
I need you to get your podcast to talk about
these two dudes. Man like you did play with Steph.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Y'all need to stop being disrespectful. He is a y'all
need to stop being disrespected.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I just haven't seen it. Ain't Raymond is who he
is because of Steph.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
That's crazy. I didn't say all that. That's crazy. You
make him play defense?

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
What the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
What I'm saying? It's different though, because he's playing in
Golden State, he's playing meaningful basketball. Put him in fucking
Charlotte where he's playing that great defense and he keeps
Let me show this. I'm not gonna be different to
his defense, to his defense.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Have y'all seen? Have y'all seen?

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I'm sick of this stats. I'm sick of this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Have you seen his stats and his record without Steph?

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
I'm sick of you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Want to know why? Have y'all seen?

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Let me kill the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Let me kill the ship.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Let me kill the ship, don't care it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Can we get the motherfucking staff?

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Let me kill Let me get hotel, Let holdtel ship?
Turn Michael how.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Bunch of stuff making twenty eighteen when sixty fifty five million, right,
make fifty So you take a hundred million dollars out
the roster, the two best players, and you're expecting him
to do some ship.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
You just named somebody. What what the are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
You tell him home?

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
You took up the two best scores on the team
with a facilitator and said, what the fuck can he do?

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Tell him home? Co yo hol Yeah? Is Draymond and
Hall of famer? Yes, yes, he ain't Hall of Famer
and anywhere else. We don't know. We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
He's still Claire.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
But he's still We don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
We don't know. We don't know. Fucking we ain't seen it, Washington,
We ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
He's still a player. You guys say he wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Be a player, talking about we ain't seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
It was the big play of the year. Raymond Green
is an elite defensive player, elite.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Not he has dogs around He's an elite basketball player.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Bro got other dogs around them. That's all I'm saying.
He's an elite are i Q is high all?

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
See what they do. Gotta get the funk out of here, right,
you got it? Im about to get you know what
I have a problem with. I'm not talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
You know, I have a problem with Charlie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Right today for the show. I was ready today. This
is why I have a problem with with the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
No, no, no, it's not because you will turn around,
checked out, woke outside. I think I think the a
C probably can check. This is what I have a
problem with Charlie because he'll go off and say, situations
are they acting like if you put the right players
around him, he wouldn't be able to figure it out.

(01:06:07):
We're not building around him. But if you, okay, Loy,
don't you put Luca.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
With He's he's a hall of famer. He's a hall
of famer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Though I'm just saying you sounds ugly. Okay, Okay, you're right,
you're right. That's my pologies.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
You're right. I was with you. Are you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
You're talking about Luca? Okay, so let me rephrase that.
Let me let mera that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
There's a better chance of Luca taking Washington to the playoffs.
Let me phrase that. Listen, we get Draymond his flowers
because he is very pivotal to this Warriors team.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
If he is literally pivot a four time fucking championship.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Team because it fits because there can I tell you
something situations thinking that what's this, What's what's this? Is
there another Steph Curry?

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Ever?

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
No, would there be another Clay Thompson.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
There will be another kick Clay Thompson. There will be
another high disrespect. There will be another Clay Thompson.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
What I'm gonna tell you all this, there will be
another Clay Thompson. Will go down as easily probably top
five for me, top three shooters ever before it, before
this last three to four years, there will be tom
I thought Clay Thompson shot of basketball, and I thought
that ship was not gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
There will be another Clay Thompson. Understand, there will be
another Big Seven, elite play defense, a very elite shooter.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Okay, whatever the likelihood have seen Steph Curry versus you're saying,
hold on home. Honestly you'll talk crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
But whatever you take, put them on any put them
any well, lamar odam on Golden State would.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Be a issue. They would get cooked defensively.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
We would hold on my quest home.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
But what Draymond is one of the best comes listen
to me, comest listen question, Hong Kong, Hody home question, hoody.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Home Listen, hold capable. He can't play defense like Honey
Home Take Draymond.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Said, listen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Saying about to spin on you. That's ship spinning, niggas,
that's crazy. This is we're gonna have the boxing. Yo
yo yo.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Listen, you take, you take Draymond? Put him on pick
a team. Does he still have the same career if trade?
Is he still a Hall of famer? Is he still
a Hall of famer? We're just making a point, home, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Got Is he still a Hall of famer?

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Depends on the city wation, Bro, He's hall of famer.
Here's my issue, Kitson, run your race twenty twenty four
to twenty five. The NBA is a situational league, Charlie
Villinois to the ball situational league, Bro, Shut the fuck
up the situation.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Nigga doesn't even understand. He's proving us right. No, he
he has gotten blessed to play with the best shooter
and ever to play this game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
He played with him, I think the same ship would happen, Nigga. No, Dame,
it's not Step.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
It's damn same caliber.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Step.

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
I think he played.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Get the fuck out of here. The fuck it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
You are Hey, listen, It's okay, bro. Draymond is great.
He is great with this team, with this team, But
we all know Dre is not the same Dre without
Stephen Curry. That is, let's put this with Dre might
have to play a different fucking way if he plays
with somebody else. If we don't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
What that even looks like. It's cool, y'all, y'all want
direct do that. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
That's not disrespectful, it's just being honest.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
He is a hall of famer. He's a hall of famer.
He's a hall of famer. Great, the way you just go,
the way you throw it. I'm saying, lamar odam is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
I just said he had fend like Draymond?

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Is that really a straight Why can't you think you
think lamar Odham couldn't do the same thing Dre's doing.
You think you think he could be one of the
most ask you this question. Let me ask you this question.
If I played in Golden State with Steph, do I
have a different career? Yes, my point, exactly my point.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
So what I'm saying, yes, But if you also play
with game, do you have a different career.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Yes, that's all. Everybody can say that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
But you play with Trey Young, you would have a
different career. That's my fucking point. What are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
I didn't even get that. That didn't even make sense.
I didn't get Charlie played with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Charlie played in the Spurs instead on Detroit. He probably
has a longer career.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
They said, Draymond equal to Herb Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Stop, I don't know what the fun y'all talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Wait, so you're rolling with Jones? Are you're rolling with
Draymond Raymond? I'm not doing that. I'm not going to
compare Herb Jones. Let me ask you this. Let me
ask you this. Would you take Aaron Gordon Draymond Green?
That's a good question, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I think morning.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
You can plug Aaron Gordon with any would you not
with Warriors? Would you not over dram with the Warriors?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
This is what I hate, bro.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Now, now, now all these other teams y'all name, Yes,
I'm taking Aaron, but now with the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
That's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
But Draymond and lost it everywhere you just said everywhere else?
You could plug Aaron Gordon in and all I said was, Draymond,
I'm taking stay over edge.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
I give you that, you give you that anywhere I
give you that, I'm I give you that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I'm gonna say this, and knowing a g I think
the Warriors to be on steroids. I don't think if
they had Aaron Gordon, I don't think so. I personally
think they'll be I think the offense looks so different.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
I don't think he's a He's not as good as
a passer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
He's not seeing and hit me. And let's not disrespect
how important that was for the Warrior system.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
They just proved that he's just he's very good there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
But why could he make that it's really good as well?

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
You think he'll go to you think he would go
to i'ma be honest, I don't even know. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
You also make everybody you also justin.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
To make him look good. Hold up, hold up?

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
You you also good offensive not defensively?

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
He right? And Charlotte, you're taking Boris d Out and
san Antonio both where I wasn't an elephant.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
I wouldn't say he was great defense. He disrespectful to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Saying you can't. Our argument is you can't just put
Draymond anywhere. Can't that's I agree with that, But I
do think he disagree with that. I agree you can't
put us anywhere? Is that our argument?

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
No, you said he wouldn't be If he wasn't the worst,
he wouldn't be in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
That's what he said, name name, name a hall of famer.
Name you a hall of famer? Any any any hall
of fame? Is he a hall of fame? Take yao,
ming and put him outside, put him in a different team.
Is he still a hall of famer?

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Yeah? Take Draymond out of fucking Golden State? Is he
a Hall of famer? Questionable?

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
No, probably not?

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
But but my point, But I do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
But I didn't say that. You said he would not
be in the NBA if it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
I didn't say he would be in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
He said he doesn't work anywhere else in the NBA.
That's what you said, work for he won't be. He
won't have no say he doesn't walk anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
You said the career, he won't.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
He won't be. Saying you wouldn't fit anywhere else in
the n A is crazy, Charlie.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
He will fit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
He's an NBA player.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
That's what I want to get off. The way he
will fit somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
That was my point.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
He might not be as great, but he would fit
somewhere else. That was my point. I didn't say he'd
be Hall of Famer anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
I was very clear with that, being honest on the
show and honest talk about it. I think we men
signed Jersey. I think we would say he fits now
because of what he's done. If Draymond crazy, I was

(01:14:45):
more of a joke. But I'm just saying if Drake
came into the league early, it wasn't with the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
I don't know he was contributing on the Warriors as
a rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
He played playoff games second round, right, Yeah, he contributes rounder,
he doesn't have the same career.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
That's what I'm saying. He goes on a bad fucking
team he goes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
To because he was low first round. He got drafted
by the Spurs. He got drafted by somebody like, don't
do that. He wasn't a high first round pick. He
was drafted thirty fifth overall.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
He was in the he was fringing, but d Sacramento.
Sacramento is a playoffs team.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Who the fuck wants to go to Sacramento. How many
careers has Sacramento killed? We ain't gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
So it depends on the team that you are. But
that's for any player, for any player.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
And Hall of Famer is he he's situational based on
Golden State. No, I'm talking about his Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
He played somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
For sure, but he doesn't go Hall of Fame. If
he's not Golden State, he's not in the Hall of
Fame for sure. If he's not, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Yeah, famer.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
He was.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
He was an All Star first, he wasn't all start,
but a man. Way we're saying is multiple.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Ultimately, all this argument is, it's hard for me to
say Dre would have been what we shot, what we
look at, what we first of all, Sean Livingston was
a issue.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Okay, do not do that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
You're a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
We've played at different teams and hooped.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
I'm asking you, But Draymond's only playing for one team,
So how can you say that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
We can just evaluate with our eyes evaluate what eys say,
Open your motherfucking eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Ho that's crazy, y'all thought he was shotting twenty five
percent from three when I told you his average is
like thirty eight. At thirty five, y'all know, y'all, y'all
clearly ain't watching because y'all were shocked he was thirty five.
So what does that tell me?

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
You say, shooting thirty five right now?

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
You're shooting thirty five or forty right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
I'm somebody said racist.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Zach Randoff, We ain't doing that. Shout the big bro
zbo Zebo's apart problem that Randolf of Draymond.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Zebo for sure, but rall of fame even.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Okay, past like Draymond, how would that work?

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Thirty six thirty six Z Bowl Hall of Famer? He
should be.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
I believe he should be, but he's not. But that's
because of the resume. But why is Draymond because of
the resime? Okay, he went to a great what situ
what we're saying, but he can't. You could play z
Bo at different teams for shout and I'm not and
I'm not knocking at all my opinion, I'm not knocking
Draymond walking twenty and ten. Listen, first of all, let's

(01:17:32):
put this out there. Draymond's clip for sure or Hall
of famer. I am not putting that's whoever Draymond because
he's on Golden State. It's call it what it is,
which is just going to it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
The Kenyan and uh ken versus and yeah, let's get
into let's get right into it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
I mean, you do you want to talk about Draymond
versus Rudy?

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
For you, Draymond, I'm picking Draymond. Fucking fuck Rudy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
But let's talk about Kenye versus Draymond. So basically, Keny
is pretty much always call out Draymond. He said he
picks his battles as a tough guy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
I kind of agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Draymond ain't really fucking with you know, guys are probably
Asia Stuart. He's more fucking with guys like Rudy, Gobert,
Mark Erkicch.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
And then Draymond came back and said that you know
you're from the same place I'm from. Why you hating
on me? And he said my resume is better than yours? Like,
what are we talking about? He basically said, your expectation
was the number one pick. He made one All Star.
I made four All Stars. I think I believe it
was three All Stars. DZ got a couple All Stars.
He got four rings versus zero, So he basically just
said I have a Hall of Fame career and you don't.

(01:18:33):
Then Kenyon came back and listed like forty players that
were better than Draymond whatever, it was, two hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
He named how many? But I don't agree with it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
And Reggie Evans not a better player than Draymond Green.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
I don't care what anybody says.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
That's a crazy but he said to shifting giggles. He
put bowl out Reggie yeah, like stupid shit, and somebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Right, But you know, I think it's a good I
think it's a good discussion. I think also, you know,
part of the NBA is being the best at your role,
and Draymond's the best of his role.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
He's good at role.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
So like when you guys say ship like that, like
he's the best. He might be the best role player,
one of the best role players of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
He's a superstar role player, like I said, like I said, yes,
he is perfected his role with the Warriors. I cannot
sit here and say you roll that fucking ball out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Sure, but all defense, who's a better defender?

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Listen to me? Listen let me finish. If you roll
that ball out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Draymond cooking, he can't say none of that ship because
if those same moves don't apply to fucking Rudy Go Beart,
shut the fuck up. No, No, the rules don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
No, the rule is that I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
I can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
I don't bench Draymond Green in the fourth coard. I
met Rudy Gobert. That was an argument, and Rudy go
because of why because he's a fucking pylon on the
on the perimeter.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Because he cannot guard a fucking but Keny Martin Draymond can.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
You're taking Raymond? Give me an NBA, give me a player, Draymond.
I'm taking Draymond. I'm not Wow, I played with you
put j Kidd talking about j Kid new jersey nets,
you put Draymond on that team, or you put fucking
kmar taking.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Ship. You're tripping out trying to just trying to ride
with that. I don't give a fuck about resume. You
could take that ship down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
I don't care about resume because at the end of
the day, Draymond Green has the resume that he has
because of the Golden State.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
We all know that what a.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Camar do after he left?

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
J Kid?

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
The best of all time he did? Hey, just say,
what what did he do without?

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
We're talking about what do you do without? J Kid?
He did good before you got.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
I'm just asking. I'm not saying he didn't. I'm saying
I remember him a lot from his NETS days. What
do you without? JA Kid?

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
The injury was injury program.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
He was nice in Denver?

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
I mean years? How many years Kmart played fourteen?

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
His best year with Denver was sixteen and seven?

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Okay, Draymond ever ever sixteen? Yes, he did quit close
to it? Has he ever had? What was the most point?

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Draymonds ever?

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Need numbers? Yeah, we need those numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
We need those Dramimond's best year was fourteen, ten and seven.
That's better than the Kenyon's best year.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
What's Kingy's best year? Best year? Fourteen ten and seven? Year? Nowhere?

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Best year seventeen and fucking eight? Or nine seventeen and ten?

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
I say seventeen nine and yeah and two point five.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
We're talking about nine point five boards, seven point three assists,
and fourteen points.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Okay, that's a better year. I'm gonna be honest with
you if we're talking about player Draymond's nine.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
That's a better year?

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Is that a better year? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Or no?

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
KM?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Martin two point five? Draymond Green are not in the
same realm as far as players anyways, that's not even
Draymond was seventh and MVP votes that year as well
and got caught line.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Draymond was seventh and MVP votes at year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
By the way, if you don't get the I don't
give a full god, why does one of them have
a deep point?

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
If b why does one of them have a deepoy?

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
They penciled in on accident?

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Why does one of them have a deep You think
Draymond's depoys by accident.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Not deepoy? No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
I told you defensively why Tony went deepoy because biggs
typically win them. Okay, but they're both bigs. Okay, but
they're both big. Okay, Okay, I prove my point.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
So what's your point?

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Why Bam don't have one? Why Anthony Davis don't have one?
You think who's a better defending defender?

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Was Keny Martin?

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Was Martin really leader?

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Or is just good at black block shots?

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
I'm asking a question, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
We're talking they're not even closer.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
You didn't watch Steve Francis, same as watched even and
that's the same era.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Listen, listen, what do you mean? I was a Steve
Francis fan. I played with Steve France watch bar watch
you talk about I was a Steve Francis fan. You
see I ranked Steve Francis when we ranked.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Them, Kenyon was elite Defensively, I'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
I'm rolling with Dre. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
I'm rolling with Dre.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Heard you Rose, you haven't been gone after I cooked
you earlier, So welcome back.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Oh you cooked yeah out the NBA live. That ship
used to be lit in ninety five. Being taking you're
taking kress k kmar Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
What we're doing?

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
I'm picking dread. I played with picking Dre, winning matters.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Mark garsol o d mon Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
That's a tough one. I love Mark's game. Mark is
a champ. Marc is a dpoy as well. Mark is
one of the best patches of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
As a big question, he's great on the block. I
might go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Marcus, Mark should be a Hall of Famer, should be,
but he's not. Mark might be better than dream my opinion,
he won't be a Hall of Famer. That's fine, but
I promise me won't. But why give me fucking another team.
Give me he's not on Golden State. Give me Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Of course, give you Marcus. We're talking about give me Mark.
But Draymond's a Hall of Famer. I personally think that's
what Kenyan Martin point is. He's basically like, look, bro,
there's a lot of guys who were better than you,
but you were putting in a perfect situation, which is okay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
But when you say that, there are a lot of
guys better than him scoring, but there's not a lot
of guys better than that facility and playing defense. There's
different roles of basketball. Why are we acting that the
only thing matters is scoring?

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
But what I'm saying, but I think a lot of
I think a lot of those guys, first of all,
disrespect to the guy, not district. Let me talk disrespect,
because I don't think you're trying to disrespect him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
I'm just saying Draymond's so great a currying.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
I personally think when you have a guy like Stephen Curry,
there's a lot of these guys that would have been like, Bro,
we got one of the best shooters ever to play
this game. Why would I not do what I can
to help him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
He's one of the smartest BASKETBA players I've ever.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
Played, Raymond Green or Dennis Robin.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
I'm going with Drake because I didn't watch this enough.
But that's me speaking out of ignorance. Ray I didn't
watch that like that, So there's no different than when
you say you can't pick other guys.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Draymond, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
See, thank you, Lewis. Draymon was tough before KD got there.
Even offensive, he was pretty good. I remember watching all
those games, Bro, he regressed because of KD.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Y'all watch Dennis Robin Draymond.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Shit, do you understand we're not even talking about this
if KD don't even go there, though we said this
multiple times, we're not even having this conment. If Kevin
Durant doesn't go to go to State, we're not even
talking about this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
I think Draymond's averaging fifteen, ten and seven for the
rest of his career for the next five years goes there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
My god, you tripping. I think he is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
I think he's having the same numbers he did with
their MVP year because he I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Would love to see Draymond in the deaf in uniform.
I can guarantee he wouldn't do it the same I.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Think he can do the same thing. I think he would.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Twenty sixteen was his best year when he actually had
the basketball in his hands a lot and was able
to make plays and shoot the basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
You think Draymond is averaging fifteen, I.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Think he's averaging around fourteen fifteen like he did, averaging
seven eight assists and having the same amount of boards.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
You know, they lead this nigga open.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
You know he was thirty eight percent that year.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Right, No, I'm saying right now, and you know right now,
you know they he got there, right you know what
I'm saying right now? They leave this nigga open. What
is he averaging right now?

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Eight three?

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
I mean eight four and four, eight six and five,
and they leave him open. But famous he's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Playing twenty nine, He's playing twenty nine minutes, said thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Damn, twenty nine minutes not enough.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Let me play twenty nine minutes on a thirty six.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
That's double digits though, right on a per thirty six.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Bro Let me pay twenty nine minutes because.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Charlie said to me per thirty six before thirty six.
Charlie said that to me before, So I'm using the
same argument.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
What's what was y'all? Give me Hong Kong?

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
You just said per thirty six, look at my per
thirty sixes, that's what you used to say. So if
the per thirty six he's averaging ten points probably seven
and six seven boards, that's not a good that's not
a good line. I just said that ship because all right,
all right, cool, I mean, listen, let's move on to
the next top again.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
If I played twenty nine minutes, I'm going to get
you more than eight four and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
Put that shit back up there curtain it was Are
we fucking serious? Two six eleven, y'all talk to me
about his fucking rock? Come on, man, come on.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
How's a sophomore you play in the playoffsky as a sophomore?

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
Not fuck Come on? You're talking about any points a
game career wise?

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
You you asked him to put in a role though, right,
you asked him not to score?

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Are you just say he's I agree that?

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
I don't get it, bro. You guys ask him to
be great at his role and he's he's great at
his role, Like he's one of the smartest basketball players.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
He's the Hall of Famer because of his.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Role, because he's great at his role. Okay, yes, guys,
are we really gonna say that because he's not elite
facilitator at his role?

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
That guy average fifteen and the Dog Tigers. Y'all crazy, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
I'm just what Kenya Martin is saying. What is saying
the crazy he's Draymond is the Hall of Famer. Not
knocking Draymond at all.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
But like, let's be real, you don't agree with Kenyan.
You think Kenyan Wiler, No, I think that he'll take
he said he takes Draymond.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
I take Draymond because of what he does. Everything he does.
I think that he impacts the game of winning. We
talked about how impacting game of winning is a skill. So, yes,
ken you is probably a better basketball player, but I
think Draymond is a better winner on the NBA court.
That's my opinion because of everything he can do. I
didn't say. I didn't want to say that Kenya Martin

(01:29:09):
was the worst basketball I said, I'm picking Draymond Green
on my team because of what he does on the floor.
That's what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
He's taking Bruce Bowenmond Green, Graymond Green, Okay, I'll take
I'll take Draymond. And now, okay, who are you taking?
I'm taking Aaron Gordon before moment. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
I mean, there's a great question. Do Steph have the
same career without Draymond.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
I don't know if Steph does. Either of sho don't
have nothing to do with Draymond.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
Are they running those screens and all are players making.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
The same pedal stool? Are they on that pedal stool
without Kevin Durant? No, they were figured out Bro the Warriors,
we figured the funk out. I don't know bron would
have ran off three.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
And I think a lot of people will say Draymond
was more important than Clay in those championship runs.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
I've seen that a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
I believe that. That's my opinion. Offensively, and what he
did for the team.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Charlie Raymond was more important than Clay Tops and Clay TOMPs.
That's crazy. I said that. I don't give a fuck
what you guys say. I'm dying on that hill. Fuck
with you because you you you you really, you really
you really, goofy, it's crazy. That was the goofy statement. Bro,

(01:30:42):
disrespectful for Clay is crazy crazy. Clay is clutching strays
out of fucking like, what the hell are you talking? Bro?
Clay Thompson easily bro his top five all time shooters
to live. That's cool and need you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
But if we swapped out if we took if we
put if we took out Draymond Green and who's another
who's another forward that played during that time, Let's say
we put him uh fucking alfreaka menu he started for
the Blazers, And let's say, no, I'm this.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Clay. We took.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Us, and we took out Clay. Who Who's who's some
of el similar to the shooters as alf Rup.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Dramon?

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
No, no, no, no, Who's sorry? Who's a similar shooter
at alf Rook's level? That that was that that's a
shooter Alfred version of Clay in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
I'm confused what the question is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
And we switched out a menu for for dre Yes
and and we kept Clay, or we switched out Clay
for who's an elite shooter at that time?

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Look what Big Bank just said. I'm low key roler.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
All right, let's move on. Anyways, Long is drunk. I agree,
let's move on. Hongs micro got a cup. Hong is
wild and I'm dying serious. Kmart said he's only a
help defender.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
We know ain't talking about that right now. We just
say you just you just threw that in there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
But I'm just I'm just if you remove Clay and
put another elite shooter. But maybe it's not good defensively,
I think the words still have the success I don't
know if they have the same success without Dre.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
If you put Luke Richard my boote on Golden State,
same player, so you put J J. Reddick would go
to stay. You think they still Yes, if is on
the team, God damn rich not importantly was.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
But if you removed, if you move Draymond's passing and facility,
I think the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
B oh my god, trolling on purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Heard you, I'm rolling with Draymond.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
They're gonna start throwing sushi rolls at.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Us, racist as fu bro, That's what that's crazy. That's
like saying if I start throwing fried chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
At his a niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
That's all I heard.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
I'm coming.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Because Dre you. You always hear, but I don't give
a fuck. Dre, shut the funk up.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Drake changed the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Yeah no, I think something for some reason not showing
all the name but shout out to Dre. I appreciate Dre.
Dre is always here.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
You know, we get.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
A drinking too far. But sus she's not all right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Guys, now, y'all know we play like that, don't even do.
I am not African, Hope.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Come on, are you sure lineage is not from there?
Your lineage might not be. It might be from there.
I just call me black as I didn't say that.
I said, you have no idea where your lineage is from.
But anyways, let's get to the next topic.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Hold on reference to Nigga twice? You sure did.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
We're goody was there was that? I wasn't there because
I didn't hear it. You crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
You just young?

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
You're right?

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Rose, Josh Okay, your name is Rose. Bro funk out
of here, bro Her, don't block his comments. Tell Rose
keep bringing the smoke. Bro Rose saying I don't know
why you want Why are you copying Rick Ross? Richard Rose?

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
Listen?

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
That is I think I think he deleted he deleted.
He retracted his comment.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
I got it on Rose home from Canada?

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
Heard you?

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
So what where the fuck are you from?

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Oh ship? We need niggas to pull up looking Bryce?
We don't need to pull up what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
Bryce? Anyways, Let's get the next topic. This is gonna
pissed the off.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
It's okay if they do.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Bill Bis just rushed out four. I'm cool with that
fact Burn. Why so much hostility because because Rose just
talks ships on every comment. Let's debate, Please, Rose, shut the.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Fuck up the next topic.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Yo, are the Raptors fools?

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Gold?

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Yes or no? They're second in the East? Guys, can
they can they win in the East?

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
The top fourteen? Fucking hooping? They are balling the hooping broo.
Let me take another ship.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
They got a chance.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
They playing better than anybody else in ease, So I
ain't gonna disrespect them like that. They got a chance
they playing good ball win the East. Well we say
they have a chance. We didn't say they was chance
to do what You got a chance to compete for
the East? What you mean who got a chance to
compete these? Absolutely, they have a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
I think the choice is better than them. But having
a series.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Who gonna beat them outside of Detroit?

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
I don't think the next are better than them. I
don't think I don't think the bunch of the Philly
better than you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
I love my Knicks, but they play continues the way
he played guys.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Cleveland looked like trash.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Last night got Cleveland look bad. They played a back
to back. They played they they don't matter. They played
it back to back.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
But they beat them before.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Y'all know how it's like traveling.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
They beat them before, though, we ain't gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
L I agree. Listen, bro, come on, come on, guys.
Look they're having a really good year. I'm the one
who told you all about the niggas? Am I wrong?
What are you talking about?

Speaker 6 (01:36:10):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Is? That?

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
Is that on?

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
So why you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Churtsas they swept the season series with the Calves?

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
Congratulate fucking relations you put you're willing to put money
on it if they play each other? Yeah, that's a
good question. Let me let me get back to you.
That's a good question. Are you willing to put money
on I'm willing to put money on it on the Calves,
the Raptors beating the Calves in the playoffs. Yes, I am.

Speaker 5 (01:36:31):
I'll put money on it. I put a hundred. If
they no way, No, I want to hunt if they meet.
If they meet, we're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
We gotta listen. If the miss the playoffs, this is
what we do for the at least, this is what
we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
The record hundred that right? Yeah, playoffs? Please let me
check something right quick. So Cleveland is twelve and seven,
Toronto is thirteen and five.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
I put a hundre.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Were gonn do regular season best and when the playoffs
get here, then we can handle that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
What's the regular season that they won't finish? I promise
you Cland finishes in front of Toronto. I don't care.
I've took a hunted on that. I don't care about that.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
I don't talk about the finish. I don't come about
the record. I'm talking about they would beat them in
the seven game series.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
I think I think Toronto has the size to beat Cleveland.
That's what they would beat them in. Then I'm not
that confident to bet you deal. But that's my thoughts.
I don't know, you know, I think if you don't know,
Cleveland could play very well in the regular season. We've
seen it multiple times, but in the playoffs, so they.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
They've beat Okay, first of all, let's go and put
this in perspective. They have lost to better teams every
single year. As far as the Knicks, they were better
who the Cavs not the year when they lost when
Donovan to show up, we talked about that they were
the better team.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
Who they didn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
That was a year when Julius was injured. No, no
Julius playing play that year the year when Dan played
like he played like he definitely because he only played
two games, but he didn't play three and four. But
I'm gonna be honest. I love yall. I've said this before.
I'm a huge y'all fan.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
Kurt. You keep spamming all this fucking Raptors. One eight
in a row? Show who they played? Show me in
a row in the league is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Eight in the row? Cleveland, Cleveland, I don't give a Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
Those are some Those are some decent teams they want
in the rows. Ain't a road in the n b A.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Listen Charlie Cleveland, listen off of back to back Cleveland,
Brooklyn like Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Let me ask your questions. Team, you just killed Ray
for talk fucking still betting with Indiana? So why are
you killing Ray? The NBA team right? NBA team? Oh
my god, Bro, y'all are killing me right now, you're
winning eight in a row. They beat They beat Brooklyn, Cleveland,
great team, Indiana bat Charlotte, bat team Philly, good team Washington, Brooklyn,

(01:39:04):
bad team Chicago, I mean, uh not Chicago Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Off of back to back again, good good team, good team.
They beat two good teams. All I heard was there
be some good teams in the doesn't Okay? Let me
ask you a real question. Off of back to back.
Does the team that's not off the back to back
take advantage of that majority of the time?

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Bro, they trying to I'm at the gods, let's be
real about this. Let's be.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
Hand the rotors on the back back too. He was
leaving that backack, Yes, yeah, he's leaving that out Brooklyn
on the back to back. Why are y'all back at.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Home at home?

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
There's a difference when you go home to back and
you gotta go somewhere else and travel and then play.
You're not gonna sit here at like that don't matter?
Back here he go, Bro, I think they're really I
think they're good. I think they're a good team. They're

(01:40:05):
not competing in the East, though, Bro, they're not. They
may be a second round team, and they better hope
they catch the right team. They beat the cast if
they if they can, if they catch the magic, maybe
toss up.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Let's see what happened Toronto top fourteen, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
I think they'll be a top four team in the
East play Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Who else?

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Do you believe in the East? I don't think if
we're talking about how good of the rope, I'm about
to lose a hundred for this.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
But I think they can be top four, top five.
They're better than Detroit. Nope. Miami, yes, debatable, but I
will go down. Do you trust Toronto or Miami?

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
I trust b I over Tyler Herod.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
I didn't say the players.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Do you trust?

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Do you trust Miami or Toronto? Toronto?

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Wow, Charlie's Charlie's love in the city.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
That's why he's rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
I'll roll with you, hey, listen, I'm rolling with the
six Cleveland, y'all, rolling with Toronto.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Cleveland. No, No, Cleveland is a better regular season team.

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
We know this.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
In the playoffs. Let's talk about the playoffs. Who you're
rolling with Toronto? Okay, New York. I'm fine, I'm with
the Knicks. Now Atlanta, Nathaniel, get him out of here.
Rolling with with Atlanta? Toronto? You know it beat Toronto.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
So so now can you say that you just saying,
you just said Toronto, big Cleveland. Now it's so we
were talking now it's so.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
No, no, no, no no, don't get me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
Don't give me so.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
You're not comparing the same situation, now, don't give me
so not playing the same situation we talked about in
a playoff series regular season and Knicks haven't shown us much.
So we really all right, you see feels ignoring the point.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Yeah, we got a point. You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
I admit that. I admit that. He's right. We're talking
about Philip series Philly. They're better than Philly. They're better
than Philly right now without in.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
The playoff series with the NB we're talking playoffs. If
mbat is there, no, indeed, poor poor Georgia around he's
all right, he's playing good, has he? I haven't been
watching first game back? Ye had twenty one? Did they win? Yeah?
They're better than Orlando.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Orlando.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Yes, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
I don't know. Yeah, Orlando juries yet to be seen
Toronto and figure out, No, we haven't seen them in
the playoffs. So y'all argument was we see what Cleveland
does in the playoffs. They've won playoff series.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
First of all, for sure. Have we seen this Toronto
team win any playoff game ever?

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
No? But but I like the matchup deal. I think
matchup fights.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
I love it. I think you can feel Scar big
advocate of Toronto. I said they were gonna make that
next step, and they have and I hope they play
there be is not good enough. I hope they gotta
be real with that. Who's on the bench? Let me
a player off the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Bench of Toronto? Yeah you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
I can't name one, right, dick.

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
Player Toronto of You said, hold on, you said we
don't fucking put the ship up there, dick and not
even looking at it?

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
What you say? Who's off the bench? Dig in Toronto?
You got.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Yo? Said that too aggressive? You got the Walter's Kid
from Dallas, Okay, talkie ship? You got a snead? Was
she Shad from Houston? Okay? Talking ship?

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Peter's in the chat? What's up? Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
Of course, that's this one comment Dick Peter, we warner
about you, bro, Look this picture, fucking picture.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Listen, we got some ship for Peter when he gets back, Jesus,
we got some ship for Peter when he gets back.
We argue about Draymond got very quiet. Ray was on
some ship, not Rays just chilling. But uh no, listen,
let's let's move on to this topic. For one shot
to win a game? Are you trusting br Don?

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
I'm gonna be I. You can't go wrong with either
one of them, but you gotta go with Don first.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
I'm going to be I, being six', Nine i'm Gonna
i'm choosing.

Speaker 5 (01:44:26):
That he can't go wrong with either. One but if
you gotta Choose, don donad is a, killer. Bro you
can keep doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
Too keep.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Way From he's From New, York, yeah, okay And North.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Carolina he's From New.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
York he from with you? From he's From queens where you?
From way down? From hold, on way down? FROM i
don't know where he's. From look it up real, quick
start fucking typing, Home, jesus who From Long, Island, Queens.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
Manhattan he's From.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
Almsford awn's For New, York New.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
York it's a village in West.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
Chester where is? THAT i told you he was up
in the. OUTSIDE i told you he was out up.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
GUYS i didn't say he was a better. PLAYER i,
said picking one. Shot i'm picking the six, nine six
nine elite shot. Creator is it really is that really
crazy for? You he's six, nine he gets shot against.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
ANYBODY i think we're just going off track records. Here i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
NOT i, said roll the ball out one. Shot he's
a six nine elite. Creator you're really saying that's that?
Crazy i'm asking the, question what's about, You? Don i'm
asking the, question is that really not?

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
Going After Don bro?

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Said is that really that crazy of a?

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
TAKE i still, YES i think it's a crazy. Take,
okay cool. That i'm just us not talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
That what we're going talk abou J doub's. Extension, yeah big,
man give me the numbers on. That what's don game
winners to uh to be, Bees it's way. Different it's
probably fucking, drastic like this ship That probably that was,
probably LIKE i told you, before you've heard me say
it BE i was one of the coldest MOTHERFUCKERS i have.

(01:46:08):
Regarded but as far as last, shot take us home
as cold as.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Fuck so that's my.

Speaker 1 (01:46:14):
Opinion so J doub's, extension let's talk about. It, So
Okay see is no longer. ELIGIBLE i mean he is
no longer eligible for a Super max because he's missed
more than seventeen games already this.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
SEASON i don't think that boy's worried About i'm just
thinking So i'll be.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Mad it saves Okay see. Too say okay Saves okay
for a, Year, no for a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
Years it's the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
Same he's no longer.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
Eligible he can't get a contract no.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
More who, kids fucking you get Super? Max and now
if you had a chance to get a Super MAX,
tv come on telling me what's super?

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
Max if he.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
Remember he's only on the rookie, extension which IS i
think to, something it's.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Okay to, Whatever so he'll get one eighty over to. Something,
yes would you go somewhere else and take the two.
Hundred it's not about taking take one. Eighty it's not about.
Taking we're not saying he takes.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
Something it's just saying because he missed, games. Bros bro
gives a funk about that? Ship what you, guys it's to.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
Forty bigger than it's to forty bigger than one.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Eightiesv over, here, lying, bro what can't you?

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
Do let me ask your? Question hold, on hold, on hold,
on hold.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
On he lost fifty million almost, listen that's a big.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
Difference, okay this guy's.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
Oats, Man, charlie we drinking some. Ship there you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
GO i understand you trying TO i made some pretty good.
Money i'm done, With.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Charlie hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
Listening well off the, court, bro you you do?

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
That do well off the? Court you?

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Savvy?

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Right what's the difference IF i was one hundred million
versus what the Fuck i'm? Doing? Now can?

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
You you're telling me if you made fifty m's in your,
career dow doesn't change anything for?

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
You buy a bigger?

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
House, like what the CAN i?

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
Do like what we?

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Doing what we're talking about you take advantage of while you, hear,
bro like you're making most money as.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
Possible, understand do you want to?

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Win if he had actually twenty five million dollars in his,
bankcount you can use that money to make.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
Money what are we talking?

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
About argie saying?

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
That but what can't you do now that with the
TWENTY i can take more gambles on.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
STARTUPS i could do a lot of different. Ship you
know that if you have actually twenty m's in your bank,
account you can't do more with.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
That you can show me the money, money.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
You can't do more with.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
That you're talking about my. Lifetime you know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
Your lifetile what you're, saying but your. Lifestyle can't you
What i'm? SAYING, cev how old is j du? Twenty
what he's twenty? Three he's twenty three and twenty? Three?

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
YOUNG cv, man you were, hey, LISTEN i saw your.
Clips you was a nigga at. Heart you're. Sick you're
sick by the. Way you're stick at twenty four fifty million.

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
Dollars we're not talking about ten fifty million.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Dollars make that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:09):
Elsewhere Bro, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Charlie if you had twenty five million dollars investment.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
Saying, right All i'm saying is, lifestyle would you go?
Somewhere we're not talking about. Lifestyle we're talking about Still
no fifty ms is fifty?

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
Ms? OKAY i know, That but would you go to
a different team that different thing we.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Just missed on the Super max that we just said
because of the MPs like.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
My, okay c is What i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
Saying.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Rules, Yeah i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
Sick oh my fucking, money and he just want a
chip off a. CHIP i got an. Opportunity first of,
all you don't just Make. Supermax you gotta earn that.
Ship the fact that he had an opportunity to get
that and now you, Can't i'm, like, fuck he can
make it off the, court, bro you are, right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Okay, yeah he would be.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
OKAY i don't THINK o see you. Can you gon'll
be okay, regardless he's still gonna. Get, no he's gonna be.

Speaker 5 (01:50:06):
Fine he's still gonna Get we're just saying he's still
get one eighty one ninety, whatever one ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
Cool you take. That put that in the fucking s
AND p five hundred so he gets how much would?

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
SORRY i signed a five year two Forty it would
have been five, year three hundred forty sixty, millions sixty
to eighty seventy be, exact two ninety call it fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:50:30):
Millions he missed on fifteen, mil which is really twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
Mili, okay, okay see it's a little bit, more isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
It, no that's twenty five. Mil let's just call it
twenty five mil taxes and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Shit if you had actually twenty five million dollars, Baking
i'm sure you do some.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
More. Ship i'll still be. Here we'll be backing with your.
Niggas we'll be buying more, properties, yes but so what
we talk. About i'll just be buying more, property a
little bit more, shit but my.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Life that don't. Change how much more cars than.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
Houses CAN i?

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
Buy you go buy if you flip that. Money, no
if you go flip that money, though ain't no good.
Investment i'm just asking could you do anything like?

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
That i'm asking the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Question you're basically paying, yourself not even paying. Yourself you
just wasting?

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
Money all?

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
Right, Yeah so question for y'all on THE okac. Team
does this team beat the twenty Seventeen. Warriors there's a
big debate.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
Online no fucking, Lists you're, Right i'm. Bad what do you? Say?

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Stateless oh, NO i hear. You who? Wins who? Wins who?
Wins what.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
WITH kd or this thunder? Team because This thunder team's
on the. Tear there's a lot of comparisons two teams that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
THAT kd team is stupid BRO kd and staff on
the court at the same, time And clay Fucking. Thompson
what are we talking?

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
About?

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
That from me right, Now i'm asking the. QUESTION i
don't think anybody. THINKS i don't think it's Im i'm
even that's a. Debate that matter of, Fact, clifton this
should be our fucking. Debate it'll be too, many it
would be thirty. Seconds that's just.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
Stupid that's.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
Stupid showtime's sweeping the.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
Words in what World Clay thompson and Fucking Steph curry
on the court at the same. Time there was. Nothing
there was nothing you could do with that. Team there's
not nobody could. Do there was nothing you could do
with that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Team said The bulls can handle You, see we didn't Say.
Draymond you said the Ninety. Jans yeah you said, that,
Right but you just said. Nobody So i'm saying you
said on this, okay nobody could fuck with The.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
Warriors in my, opinion the. Crazies Michael jordan couldn't do.
It boy. Boy that roster was. Crazy. Bro that even
the same same. Roster, yeah the same Rusher.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Matt barnes he signed, Late Steph, Curry, Katie, Draymond Andre,
Goodala Damion, Jones Sean, Levison Kevon, Looney patrick, McCage revel. McGee,
Yeah David, West.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
I'm being honest with. You you ain't fucking with. Them Who, okay,
see ain't working with. Them they'll, compete they're gonna play.
Hard but that's just this is a make a mis.
League that's too much shot. Making That Klay, thompson That Kevin,
durant That Stephen, curry why You draymond? That That Draymond,

(01:53:24):
no Just draymond on that. Team it makes him. Different
i'm just, saying because he fits.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
Five is.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Very.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Fair warriors of? Five bus.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Y'all, bulls y'all got anything else on? That we got
anything else on?

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
That two Thousand. LAKERS i think two Thousand lakers will
Lose kobe And. SHACK i think they Lose.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Burden we have playbacks coming up After, thanksgiving so we're
also gonna find some ways keeping play back a little
bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
ENGAGED i know a lot of people are, fun.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
But what'd you think some other? Ship you think two
Thousand lakers can beat twenty Seventeen? Warriors nobody being The?

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
Warriors?

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
Bro you, said didn't you say The bulls would beat them.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Before nobody's being in The.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Warriors i'm gonna be honest with. Y'all that's the one you,
tripping bring a d And steph And.

Speaker 5 (01:54:19):
Clay i'm ACTUALLY i might go With detroit fucking team
two thousand, Two PRINCE, O, katie.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
What who's guarden She Graymond? Green who's guard She Graymond?

Speaker 5 (01:54:35):
Green and then who's gonna do anything With Ben? Wallace
and please, Say Looney ludy can fucking hold On Ben
wallace With Big?

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
Wallace sorry my.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Fault Ben wallace is not as a, Player he's enough
to fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
It David, West David, West David, West.

Speaker 3 (01:54:53):
David west on that team To David, west wouldn't Wonder.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
David weston Guard sheet And dreda that they know you
Can't david westcar.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
Nobody that's not even the lineup. Though i'm Going Steph,
clay Kt Iggy. Draymond, Sorry i'm. Putting i'm putting he
was on that team. Too, Yeah i'm.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
Putting i'm putting who's.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
God who's Guarding Clay, Rip he's not Guarding. Clay who's
going Step Chauncey chnce is getting?

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
Caught he's probably? Better who Going. Chauncey what the funk
are we talking?

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
About we're Putting we're Putting steph on and we're Putting clay. On.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
Chauncey. Rip what's the what's the number one score on that?

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
Team the Screens i'm living?

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
With can they? Guard what the fun they? Do can
they run around the? Guard With?

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Warriors they're not as the lead offensive as The. Warriors
the wars shoot them out the.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
GYM i hold you. Right they Beating ain't nobody with
The Golden state war? Crazy you, listen it's beating? Him you? Crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
YOU i hear.

Speaker 5 (01:55:55):
YOU i hear the best player in the. World y'are
talking about y'all crazy shooting in the. World the best
player that we're talking. About what we're talking. About M
j is fucking winning that not you? Crazy he ain't
lost one. Championship it's kat the best scoring in the.
League that's WHAT i.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
Heard k K k is one of the best scores.
Ever you forgot about him and then you aligned him
with the best shooter in the, world.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
And Then.

Speaker 5 (01:56:22):
Drew we're talk about The bulls right. Now So Scotty
pippen ain't guarded. Kalout you're talking about he can he? Can,
Okay Ron harper is on fucking his on On steff
M j is On clay.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Who?

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
Cooking?

Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
Hoo What clay cooking? Hoo whoever you put on M,
j you'll get the. Hold So i'm, like, y'all y'all talking.
Crazy Now clay cooking M, j y'all. Crazy he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Cooking the only reason WHY i think uh cook M
j was because Of. Steph it's. TRUE i mean they
see everybody can guard. Staff they switching, Everything they switching.

Speaker 5 (01:57:07):
Everything dinnis gard went through Five, Dennis, Dennis rob mcgard,
went who's?

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
There who's? There Four? Dennis who's? There Five.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
Longley he's an. Issue they play small, balls Cos, La Ron, Scotti,
Mike tony and And. Dennis that's the closing, Lineup no
different than The. Warriors that's that's the. Lineup That's, harper.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
M, Jay, scotty Cuck. Dennis that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
LINEUP i don't seen cuckoos get cooked. Before i've just
seen stuff get.

Speaker 5 (01:57:44):
Cooked, listen there's always a guy that don't that's not
that great defensively on every, team or let's be, honest
this may be a hard liability on both. Sides so
who you're rolling With Michael jordan's or Fucking Kevin. Durant
that that's that's the end of, it because that's the
best score on that is the Best this is with

(01:58:06):
who you're rolling? With Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
Jordan Michael jordan's the fucking Goat jordan that we love up.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
Question Stephen katy Versus scotty and M.

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
J that's that's What i'm gonna with And scott Taking
scotty and M j ON Stanfk scotty and M. J
what are we talking? About put it on the, chat.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
Put about the wrapp.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
Up we're both get this one. Going, okay that's a great.
Debate that's a great. Debate i'm gonna be. Real i'm
gonna Be i'm gonna be, Really i'm, going M. J
scott you a, Book i'm, going M. J, SCOTTY i
got up yesterday in the in the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
With gonna get this. Time you're gonna get cooked this.

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
Time you know. What WHERE i disagree with the argument
is we got you gotta look at their top their star.
PLAYERS i think The wars have a better star player,
cast but The bulls have better pieces of like they're better, defensively.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
There's Two hall of famers M j And. Scotty what
are you talking? About But i'm Saying scotty was a Better.

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
Claire, coach because that's the Next. Claire who's?

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
Next who's?

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
Next?

Speaker 3 (01:59:16):
Coach who's? Next? COACH i said The warriors? WIN i,
said who's? Coach, Okay, scotty who's? Third you're Forgetting? Dinners,
ron he's the, Next he's The hall Of. Famer Don't
Dennis robby?

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
What don't do?

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
That but we're saying we're gonna compare him To clay
that's the next.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
One that's the next best.

Speaker 5 (01:59:35):
Offense that's but now you're talking. Office we're talking about caliber.
Players Dennis robbin is A hall Of famer and Three
All famers on the. Team that's Three hall of.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Famers is better than than. Coach he's better Than Ron, Harper,
draymonds better than both of. Them to better than Who
Ron harper and co?

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
Coach?

Speaker 1 (01:59:51):
What yes off to? Coach not, Offensively i'm, Done.

Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
Tony. Coach i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
WILD i might BE i didn't Watch tony think.

Speaker 3 (01:59:59):
That so you take that one back.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
And, coach here's An All? Star is who and Rag doll.

Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
Coach that's an. Argument andrew your dollars better than WHO,
whoa that's an argument that's better than, that better than.
That dymond better Around.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Harper i'm dying on That Equalph cur's better Than, scotty,
Though steph curs better Than. Scotty so M j wins
versus K D stephen JAM j.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Winns, Period, steph M j wins. Period you got to
go to your.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
Team you, Win, Steph steph, Clear i'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:00:40):
Be real with. You the only, reason Like, scotty the
only oh, MAN i don't get this ship are we're talking.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
DUOS i think the team of The warriors may have
been just too, much but just duos. DUOS i think that's.
Fair scotty m not losing Because scotty is really elite.
Defensive M.

Speaker 5 (02:01:01):
J Lewis scotty was a Bona, Yeah scotty was the
Score scotty was and he put the ball.

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):
BACKS i don't know if he's bona, fide like WHEN
i talk about bona fide and thinking guys Like Katie,
mike he proved.

Speaker 3 (02:01:13):
It when M j fucking, WINS i just say baseball
for t hear.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
YOU i don't think it's the skill set of those.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
Guys you want to see his, numbers look at his.
NUMBERS i can look at his. Numbers but m and
them talked.

Speaker 5 (02:01:20):
About how big Cou cooas was though for, sure for,
sure that's Why charlie ain't talking them because you know you.

Speaker 2 (02:01:25):
Don't i'm done with this. Conversation but you know you
don't fucked up no DEFENSIVE i did what what's the
do chat right? Now it's M, j M J. Scotty
seventy three was right.

Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
Because they're not even. Closed seventy three percent is M
j And.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
Scotty i'm taking fucking K d and fucking. Staff do
you know you're talking About Michael jordan's? Understanding who's your?

Speaker 3 (02:01:53):
Goat, charlie M, j no question taking and you it's
kind the problem becomes what a number two That scottie
and K? D the big?

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
GUY i, think where do you Have Scottie, Ring.

Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
Steph curry and And Scottie? Pippen said big.

Speaker 5 (02:02:11):
Guy, okay so you're rolling the ball like you sitting
here telling me you Think Scotty pepper.

Speaker 3 (02:02:15):
CAME D m K. D you Think Scotty pippen is
a very elite level defender six seven six eight.

Speaker 5 (02:02:24):
Long he was a great. Defender what are we talking?
About they put him on the on the best guys
on the back of the.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
Day have we ever SEEN i don't think washing didn't watch,
that didn't watch The did you watch The bulls like?

Speaker 6 (02:02:37):
That?

Speaker 3 (02:02:37):
Though The Chicago? Bulls did you watch?

Speaker 4 (02:02:39):
That? Back?

Speaker 3 (02:02:40):
Then you told me really is a Big chicago asking
question him as a. Kid, listen everybody was Watching jordan.

Speaker 1 (02:02:48):
Was watching him sometimes because sometimes you, say you, KNOW
i wasn't. THAT i wasn't like that old one.

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
Enough say K d is the best fucking score? Ever
and then, Say Scotty pipps Feel so CAN i be
honest with?

Speaker 4 (02:03:03):
You CAN?

Speaker 3 (02:03:04):
I CAN i be honest WITH i said he's one
of the best scorers. Ever he said he might be
the best Scoring And i'll be honest with, you one
of the. Bests you said he might be the best?
Scorer CAN i be honest with? You sc duo? Matchup
it's Not, kadi It's. Steph so CAN i CAN i
ask everybody? Question It's, steph it's Not. Katie where do
y'all Have scotty Ring top, Twenty top fifteen? Ever, yes,

(02:03:25):
ever not top, fifteen Where scotty he might be top twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
Five top twenty, Five katie's top, Fifteen steph is top
ten for a lot of, people And jay's. One so
that's what he. SAYS i get where he's coming.

Speaker 3 (02:03:35):
From exactly my.

Speaker 5 (02:03:36):
Top you have to, say, duo give a. Funk i'm
talking about throw the ball. OUT i know about these
guys playing in the basketball. Game WHAT i know about playing,
easy what it looks like when somebody.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
Gets physical physical gets physical.

Speaker 2 (02:03:51):
IT.

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
Pj Scottie pippot is a is a way better defendit THAN. Pj.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
Tucker so you're telling me way better. Definding so you're
telling me you if they're playing to they're playing TOO o.
Two but you're willing to p. Money that's what Gives katie.
Problems you're willing to put money. ON i think he's
Just katie Over Michael jordan And Scottie. Pippot, okay, OKAY
i take your word for.

Speaker 1 (02:04:14):
It i'll take your.

Speaker 3 (02:04:16):
Word i'll take you with.

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
It my argument is just. This we all KNOW mj
is better better than them. Two now the problem becomes
the two. PART i THINK kd And staff is better Than.
Scottie that's All i'm.

Speaker 1 (02:04:29):
Saying, so so here's here's my argument for you.

Speaker 3 (02:04:32):
Guys they ain't gonna win the.

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
GAME i DON'T i don't understand why you guys Say Draymond.
GREEN i don't let me ask a. Questions Is Draymond
green And rodman really big of a? Difference is it
really that big of a Difference draymonds and deficiently?

Speaker 5 (02:04:46):
Taking but is it really that big of a? Difference
and is the best rebound that we've ever?

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
Seen But i'm actually is it that big of a?
Difference are they don't to watch each?

Speaker 3 (02:04:55):
Other for?

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
ME i don't think? Field do they watch each other?

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
Out?

Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
Yes or or is it that?

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
Wash?

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
Okay so so that's the whole. Conversation Clay thompson And
Ron harper is a fucking landslide. Exactly and to coach
and they are a wash from you. Guys coach and dash.

Speaker 2 (02:05:16):
First of, all who average eighteen rebounds a? Game dennis,
Did wait a, minute that's what you, trip.

Speaker 5 (02:05:24):
Y'all i'm talking about every night he's wait, TWENTY i
don't give a who are playing against?

Speaker 6 (02:05:28):
You?

Speaker 3 (02:05:28):
Right but he's Getting i'm gonna tell, You i'm gonna
tell you who. Balls he not Kicking Dennis Rotman dennis.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
After five on, THIS i might take his head, off
but But dennis has average. Five he is a liability
on the offensive. End you can leave him to, score
but you can leave him, open you can lead yond
exactly the same.

Speaker 3 (02:05:47):
THING i. Agree that's What i'm.

Speaker 1 (02:05:48):
Saying it's.

Speaker 3 (02:05:51):
We came to the. Consensus hong Said draymond can only
play with The, warriors and we agree with.

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
IT i never said.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
THAT i, Never, hey, man we appreciate the. Love it's
been a lit lit literally lit uh pop.

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Show.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
Whatever y'all see how this fucking outro is going right?
Now your boy red cup is going. In but we
appreciate the. Love we'll be here the same time. Tomorrow
what games we got? There short? Week sure with our
last day is, Tomorrow so make sure y'all tell everybody
to pull.

Speaker 3 (02:06:22):
Up we're gonna have a, great great stream. Tomorrow it's
gonna be.

Speaker 2 (02:06:26):
Fun and, Uh, dramond you're A hall Of, famer but
let's be real with an ass on.

Speaker 3 (02:06:33):
It, no it ain't no asterisk on. It there ain't
no butts over. Here, hey we appreciate the.

Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
Love.

Speaker 3 (02:06:45):
Man, oh wolves it. Okay see tomorrow we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:06:48):
Tomorrow tomorrow is our last day for the, week by
the way To.

Speaker 3 (02:06:51):
Mars last. Day we appreciate the. Love were out of.

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
Here, peace
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The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

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