Kevin Durant DIDN'T fit in Phoenix? More trouble in The Bay? Is D Book a number 1 option

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, we're back. We got Charlie Villain the building, in
the building, in the Hall of Fame, in the building.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
They're just going, okay, Peter, they better be they better be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Right, next time, we got Raymond Felton in the building.
What's up the word? And we got my boy, Theo Pinson.
He's back. He was late though, so it was late
two days in a row. Fellow, Peter, you're slacking, bro, Yeah,
sling ready ready, we don't have to talk about it,
don't have to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
But anyways, I'm excited, bro.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
So our last day of a Charlie would say, work
is nine to five this week day. It's really it's
really ten thirty to one. But it's all we work it.
We work.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's every day though, every day. Every day, every day
we do homework. We do homework.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
This is it's like fellowship, you know what.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yellow All right, Well, listen, Matt Ishabo was on some
I want to say myself and I don't speak for
ray Field or Charlie on some bullshit. Hey, he was
just saying some nonsense. Do you want to run the
KD clip please?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Kurk.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Well, we're really excited about the players we got. You know,
Kevin Grant's a great player. There's no one that can
ever question that just wasn't a fit for what we're
doing going forward. Obviously he's had an amazing career, but
he's not a fit for what we're going to do
going forward. And we got great players bat with Doing Brooks,
tough minded, winning type guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
We love that. That's what we had to build out here.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Bigs, Jalen Green, twenty three year old upside the leading
score on and played all any two games like year.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
We love Jalen Green.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
But then we got the tenth pick and kame On Malowes.
We're excited, and with the other picks we end up
getting Resher Fleming, Kobe Brdle. Like, we've got five players
and we love what we've got for it, so we're
looking forward, not looking back. Obviously it didn't work with Kevin.
We wish him the best, but for us going forward,
we love the guys we got. We love what we're building,
and it takes time. It's not gonna happen overnight, but
we feel great about what we've got here in Phoenix
going forward.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's just me, but I feel like that was a
shot at Kad No.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
I mean that adn't sound like it's not a shot
at kt because he's talking about the future.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
No, But he said with Dylan, is that Dylan's winning
the type of guys we want to bring in the
grit to grind.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, the grit to grind, the toughness, which is what
made them win at the start. You had guys like
Jay Crowder, those guys. You know, you also have CP
running the point. So he's just trying to bring that feelback.
That's all.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
What is he supposed to say, right, He's supposed to
give hope. He's in. He's a businessman, so.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
He has to sell hope and you know, try to
get the fancy buy into what they do.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Team. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, I don't think it was a shot at kd
at all. He wished him the best, right, all right, bro,
all right, I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
What is uh what was the question?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, he said he's not a fit, So one the
saying is was he taking a shot at Katie by saying, well, Dylan.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Brooks is a tough nose player and he's a winner.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Like, I didn't like the thought was a shot. I
thought it was a shot to what you mean, KT,
he ain't no fit.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
No, you put a bad team together.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
He's not a fit for what we're doing. Right, No, No, No,
KDS a fit for what you're doing. You had a
bad team around him, so y'all had to start over.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's what that was.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
You had a bad team around him. So y'all was like, Okay,
wasn't really a bad team. Yes, you guys didn't go together.
First of all, Brad should have never been there. So
let me say that. But you got two alpha males
that Devin Booker young and for X amount of years
he was the guy all the shots, big shots. He

(03:35):
was their man, even when CP was there. Whatever, Devin Booker,
where's the guy? So now you bring in somebody who's
above him. I just don't think that ever, I don't
think that missed. He's too young. He's still too young
to like, I'm gonna just give the ball to KD
and let KD be that guy. Nah, I'm that guy.
That's been my team for five.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
We've seen it. Though KD and Staff is different.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Though you got you talking about two different personalities, that's
two different personality. Let's be completely honest. They fucked the
team up. How one, you never got rid of Chris Paul.
That's point blank period. Agree you should have never got
rid of Chris Paul.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
The deal for Kevin Durant giving up Cam Johnson, mchel Bridges,
no one. I don't think anybody is mad at that.
No one's mad at that, but Chris. They were winning
until Chris Paul got hurt before the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
They were rolling.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Can you imagine having a floor general like Chris paulch
just played eighty two games. So it wasn't Chris. It
was them trying to We don't think. We think Chris
is older and we can't do it with him. So
that might have been something else inside the locker room
or the higher ups got up the Kurt didn't think

(04:50):
that he was capable of winning. That's a shot. I
understand the business side of it. You need to get
the fan base back. You're gonna some they got a fall, right,
You're gonna choose Kevin Durant. The motherfucker average twenty what eight?
So he was the problem. Kevin Durant was the problem. No,

(05:12):
you put a bad group around him, you lost your bigs.
DeAndre Ayden was that that ship didn't work.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
You brought in.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I'm gonna be honest, I'm nervous about how they gonna look.
I don't know who they got over there. Who's who's
the point guard? Who's there?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Who's the point guard? Okay?

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Another coach the coach is Jbu. He was my coach
in Brooklyn. Good dude, new coach, brand new coach something.
It was goddamn.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
You say j B is an initial.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well, my thing is though, My thing is with the
coaching and stuff. I'm all about these these newer guys
coming in, These young guys you got to have, but
you got to have somebody that's gonna demand that respect
from these dudes. Man, And last year they didn't have
the rich collar, didn't have respect because you can see

(06:06):
KD going off on him because like Red Deer was
already that's the separation right there. So Phoenix, they gotta
they gotta bring up to.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Change their makeup on.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
There's one team that succeeded and I would literally call
what's the GM for?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay? See I would call Sam Press and be like,
how are you so patient?

Speaker 4 (06:28):
He was patient? He was patient. Think about this the
head coach. Now everyone's raving about him. But for two
years they were ship.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
But that wasn't Mark the no considered like a top prospect.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Of huh but no, no, that's cool. But what did
Frank Vogel do that was wrong for him to get fired?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Nothing? Nothing.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
They ran into a Minnesota team that was just better
than them. It wasn't that the team, this team wasn't
good enough. Minnesota was better. Frank Vogel had nothing to
do with that. So why are you canting him so
after one year and then you bring in somebody else
who just.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Got a canned I don't think. I don't think a
lot of players respect Booting older. But I wanted to
ask God. I said that, what kind of makes you
lose respect for a coach? Because you know there was
some back and forth, but there's guys that you guys
obviously play foreign guys.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
You just don't respect the coach that I mean, I
respect everybody, that's just who I am. But the coaches
that that go in and demand respect, you have to
go at the guy. Whoever the guy is on that team.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
You have to go with him. You have to let
the team see that shit. You have to.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
You can't let Kevin Durant cuss you the fuck out
in front of the squad, and you like took till
you like all right.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
You can't fucking do that. You're the head coach.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
You gotta cuss his motherfucking ass out. You gotta do something,
even crazy man, get the fuck out of here, go
not playing the rest of them. You gotta do something
like that in front of your team to demand that
respect that I'm out fucking around with y'all. You ain't.
I'm not tolerating no disrespect. And you gotta start with
the top, motherfucker. You have to go something where Ray
said it's the word is you hold them accountable. Accountability

(08:13):
is big. One of my favorite coaches was Scott Scoules,
and that happened to be the best year I ever
had in my career. Is when I was playing with
Scott Scouts. Scott Scouts from the best player to the
worst player, treated him the same, but demanded each and
every one of those guys to do their job and
held them accountable. And if you weren't doing your job,

(08:34):
he's gonna curse you out. He's gonna let you know.
And what Ray said, you start from the top, and
if you do that from the top, it'll trick us
down all the way to the bottom. Reread the last
comment right there, the last two the Son's organization with
the ship. When they got rid of Chris Paul, lost
the leadership, lost a nigga who holds the niggas accountable,
point blank period. You're gonna see 'all did a podcast

(08:56):
with Mantey Williams.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Chris All.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Was the leader and held everybody accountable. Chris Paul was
holding Kat accountable. That might be the reason he was
gone because does KT like that.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, that's the flip side of it.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I want to ask you some players don't like to
be held account.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
One thousand percent. But guess what. You're not gonna win,
and you ain't gonna win, but then you get fired
as a coach.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Because guess what happened, Because think about this, guess what
happened with Draymond got in his ass.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
He left eight a fact, But people hold you accountable
like it don't look good.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
I'm not I'm not saying that reason. I'm not saying
that's the reason. But when Draymond Green, he yelled at him,
got in his ass, Hey man, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Raymond said, was a little disrespectful though that we won.
We did this ship without you all.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
This that was a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
That was a lot. I mean that, that's a lot.
You don't call nobody that's fight words like there's no need.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Like he just said, give me the ball. I'm KD
and you know I understand that.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
But that's the type of stuff that it's okay you
start calling and stuff like that. You go in the
locker room.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
If you want to score up, you score up, then
it's over with. But you need to talk to people
like that because sometimes dudes like that get on their
high horse. You gotta get in the shite said a
story that he told Brian in the finals, Brian, I
need fucking more from you.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
He's like, what you mean?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
I got twenty ten and five? He said, yeah, but
Draymond down there busting your ass. So can you go
defend for us because we are going in the game.
Get Draymond fucking scoring, do your part.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
If he can tell.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Lebron James that every other fucking coach can hold somebody accountable,
because I tell you this, the worst thing, the worst
thing can possibly happen to piggyback on what you said, yes,
role players understand that you will be talked about more
than the star player because they are carrying more of
the way. But if it's every fucking time and you
watching the film and then you see, well, if I,

(10:58):
if this motherfucker just took one one step, I wouldn't
have to do all that, it gets very toxic in
the locker room. If it's always like you're talking to me,
but you talking to him, motherfucker, be a man and
talk to him. Don't yell at me because you want
to say something to him. That gets annoying because at
the end of the day, you're talking to grown men.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
So on the flip side, though, you hold them accountable,
you have a bad relationship with your superstar, you get fired.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah I'm fired. You better helpe you win. I'm fired.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
And that's what separates the good coaches from the bad coaches.
I think the good coaches would just stick to their principles.
I'm going to hold you accountable, don't matter what, and
just gonna ride ride that wave, versus some coaches that
bend and once you bend exactly to the stars.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
What are the role players are.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Saying, like, nah, I can do the same shit too
funk out of here, and then it trickles down. So
that's what separates I think the good coaches from the battle.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
What about the flip.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Side, because you guys say, well, like, it's Trey Young's team,
so they know he gets to do whatever he wants.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (12:04):
That's why coaches are gone because they had ever though.
But as athletes and as players, like we understand that
like Luca. I mean, THEO knew when he played with Luca,
Luca gonna shoot that bitch thirty five times if you
want to and take bad shots or whatever. But THEO
got in the game, THEO knew I can't take the
shots that Luca. I'm just saying that's that's just doing
that ship. So you can't compare that. And if you're

(12:25):
a basketball player and you doing that while you're sitting
on the bench, you toss it anyway.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
You fucked up, like you think you could do what
Luca do.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Shut up, bro, I'm gonna tell you what if I
heard that as an og sitting on the bench, I'm
going off on him, like brush, shut the fuck up.
You know damn well, you can't do what Luca do.
Luca could turn shoot this bitch thirty eight times. You
go out there and shoot that bitch eight yo. Ass
ain't gonna play the next game. You want me to
tell you why the teams are successful? And I think
player coaches are definitely on the rise because j Kid

(12:56):
and TLU do something that are elite. This is why
I have utmost respect for ja kids. He makes because
that's probably how he was as a player. He makes
the team talk. We'll be in the meeting and he'll
just be like this, y'all talk about it. I'm not
out there, y'all hear me all the fucking time. What's

(13:18):
the issue? Because if you're not transparent with each other
and you don't talk here, how the fuck you gonna
talk out there?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Period? Right period?

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Because if you have a guy like Chris Paul in
the locker room, you have a guy like Draymond Green
in the locker room, you have a guy like Raymond
Felton in the locker room.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't know how your vocal you were. You was
probably I was quiet. Yes you have a mother fucker, and.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
It was.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
It was tough, but I still did it because I'm
not a guy to bite my tongue I couldn't. I
couldn't help but say something. But I was not out
there enough to speak all the time. But for a
guy like ray Draymond and Chris, they're out there and
they in the fight with those guys. If you don't
have somebody that that's on the team that can hold
people accountable, the coach can't do everything. Even on our

(14:03):
national championship teams. Who's the vocal guy for y'all?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Who's the coach on the floor? A point guard? To
Leek Brown, general, you was the point guard.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
You held everybody accountable, every every single person accountable. Joe
We had a good group of nucleus that we had
different parts. Joe Berry led by example. We knew what
he was gonna give us every single night. He wasn't
as vocal. I was probably more the vocal. He led
by example with the intensity. If you don't have that
on the court, there's no chance. That's why Okac made

(14:33):
that jump because guess who was on that team, Alex
Caruso Hornstein. You know what you're getting from guys like
that every single night, and they're gonna hold everybody accountable
because they telling you, hey, listen, I'm not gonna go
out here, fucking shay, I'm not going out have fucking
about to kill myself on these screens for you not
to at least guard damn uh. The nazis over. That

(14:59):
was a stray.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'll just do that na in the game. You know,
I'm saying shake.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Over.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes, I'm not gonna the start.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
They're putting the not the most aggressive offensive player the
Stars Garden, the most less least aggressive player on the team.
So we need you at least guard dere No.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I mean that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
The game is over, Charlie us too much, bro, respectfully
Friday Friday Friday.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
You so when you talk about obviously the Phoenix Suns
makeup right? You know, book had a couple of comments, Actually,
let's play let's play the other matt Is book clip
before we get the book.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
My expectations are I hope that we win more games
than we won last year. But the truth is it's
it's not gonna be measured in wins and losses this year,
but it is gonna be measured in success.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
And how are we s just one? How do you
guys viewl that was?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I have no idea he's gonna wait.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Our team is not going to be measured through wins
by wins and losses and be measured by success. That's
my question, is my follow up question. If I was
a reporter, will be then what is success? Because what
the fun was that?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's why I said he was on some bullshit yesterday.
I don't know what that means. Respect respectful, you know
what that means. You know what that means. You know
what the fun is going after this year? That's what
you know? What happen? That means?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Uh that Kevin I was talking about, we do need
that motherfucker, but we just didn't know what else to do.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
What he was ready to go.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That the lottery this year possible, possible, I.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Said, possible.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
We got talent, got talent. You guys got booked. You
don't know what you're gonna get from Jailen green In
Dylan Brooks. I mean, they might be all right. I
think they're gonna be all right, But who's.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
The PG They're gonna be better than the Pelicans? Who's that?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
And we start testing owners to who.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
He was?

Speaker 5 (17:16):
He was?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
That was a tough press conference. Who That was a
tough interview. That was a tough point guard.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I mean you a loop of the depth chart, y'all
continue when you when.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
You having green on villa, I mean point when you
go up and say when you go up and say, hey, look,
we're not measured by wins and losses, we're measured by success.
Measure by success is wild? Wait a minute, Like the
TV said, what's success? Explain that the success that is

(17:53):
a nasty I.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Mean right now is projected as book.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I told you, because you're gonna play those three players,
you're gonna have to those three guys.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Line up from CBS Sports Is you're gonna play Green Royce,
Mark Williams.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
They saw what they look like though with him playing
the point. Who's that back? Who's back?

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Jared Butler?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I beg your pardon. Don't be disrespectful from Baylor? Yeah yeah,
from Baylor. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
No disrespect to the young fellows. But well the thing
is that they started their point. They had a lot
of money things going on. They had to buy out,
they gotta go get a point. They had They had
to do the buy out for Bill, so they had
to pay a lot of money for that, and then
they also got some bread back.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
They say, have to renovate the smoking bus.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
So who's out there smoking bus? What is she talking about?
I don't know if they had a smoke bus. But
that's what you mean, a smoke bush.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
What's going on? Butler? Who he could play you know
the smoking bus? No he can't. Who see a backup?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
There's a rumor that they have that the sun's just
appear smoking bus.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Like smoking what? No, they had one in Brooklyn for sure.
I don't know about the signs. There's an actual bus
where you could smoke. Brooklyn had a smoke bus. Word. Yeah,
they said bust one bus to smoke bus. Yeah, so
people that don't smoke on all the two buses. If
you smoke your smoking cigarettes, we weed smoking on that

(19:27):
gas life to be on cinnamon. Never, I wasn't that.
They don't test for no more. Yeah it's legal. I
wasn't part of that.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
NBA just you know, no smoking bus. But anyways, smoking
ship they had to spare. They had to pay a
fine every single time too, So that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
I mean, listen, I can only speculate about this next.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Thing different, This league is different. Would you been on
the bus? No? I never, I never smoked when I
played recreational league. Now, now you might dabble a little
part take part.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Take recreationally you understand me part take but I never
I never did, and when I played never.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
So book also came out and said that this was
the last toughest two years for him, and listen, he's
had some terrible years with losing, says a lot. You
got a clip, No, I mean this is an interview,
solid clip. He said, I saw saw I think he
said it's been the toughest two years for him. The
only common denominated there is losing CP and adding KD.

(20:37):
So I don't know the hell that means. I'm different.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
It's two different players, bro, CP, it's the leader like
point guard. Devin Booker and KD are two of the same.
They both want the ball, they both want to get
up volume shots, and they both feel like they're the man.
So of course, some of the roughest two years, you

(21:01):
gotta share that, Peel.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
There's game, there's years when he won like twenty games.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Just keep it with the Phoenix squad. Like on paper
they look good, right, that was a good team, Like
on paper, like they're gonna compete.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
They solid.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Right, so it's just didn't work out. I would say.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
The toughest thing about it is like when you're young
and that team was so bad before you knew he
was losing. Now, when you got a Kevin Durrant, Brad
Bell Devin Booker, you're expecting to compete at a high
level every night.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
And then when you don't make the playoffs and you
don't make the play in.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
That to their defense, they were always hurt, right, They
never like if you looked at oh yeah, it was
always something. There was always something. Those three guys never
played on the court. They probably played like ten to
fifteen games.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
But two of them are enough to get you to
the play bad You're right if it fits, two ulcers
are enough to get you.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I mean, is Devin Booker a superstar.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
In a whiz?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's Devin Booker super book superstars. That's a good question.
So if you have two superstars, I think you should
be able to get the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
I think you definitely. As you gotta have people around
in the West in the playing Yes, in the West, yes,
I think if you.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Have If you haven't kept asking the same question, I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
I wanted you to be honest. I think so if
you're in the East, then we can have that conversation.
And that's where brad Bill being at his whole career.
The West is a different animal. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's a real fact, and that's what Bill average thirty.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
I guess you know right.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Not in the West, though, Yeah, you gotta have you
gotta have a team in the West. You got to
bro two people ain't gonna do it. I don't give
an You put who the best two players in the league.
You put and on the team.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
You put Luke on the team. They making making it for.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Sure without players, without players.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
No, you could put Luca, Yo, Kicch and US three
right now, right now, we will go to the playoffs.
I don't think you can put two guards together exactly.
Maybe Luca, I don't know. Luca and your Ki, Luka
and your Ki with US three right now, right now,

(23:15):
three just gotta pass the ball to Luca and your cage.
You gotta be you're the third guy. I'm the third guy.
We will win, so win it is. We need a
bitch though, because all cardios a cardial rash.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I'm injured first game. I'm already injured right now, what
is go out of here? Hey man, her you want
to roll the clip on Perker.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
I'm gonna start with you here.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
You heard Jalen Green.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
He says they're gonna shock a lot of people. Does
this include you?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
You're damn right.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
I'm waiting for them to shot men, especially after the
performance Jalen Green put on last in the postseason, averaging
about nine points is the reason that the Rockets got
rid of him. But I'm looking at Devin Booker right now,
and I'm saying he's on the clock. And when I
say on the clock, it's time for Devin.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Brook Booker to show the world that he belongs right.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
And when I say belong belong in the company of
Anthony Elwards, belong in the company of a SGA, can
he be a guy that could be that guy that
number one option of this Phoenix Suns franchise. And I'm
waiting to see it, Like, yes, he went to the
NBA Finals, you know, three or four years ago, and yes,

(24:41):
but he had CP three, Yeah, he had CP three,
He had the DeAndre Ayton And now all of a sudden,
you then lost a lot of coaches through After these
last four years, you.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Then lost a lot of players.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
Now I'm ready to see and it's time for Devin
Booker to prove that he belongs in that elite company.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Thoughts that two years one forty five told you he
long in that company. I look right at that two
years one forty five shoulder. He belongs in all the companies.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Fuck what.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
We're talking about here, But listen, man one forty five. Listen,
you're gonna have losing seasons, You're gonna have winning seasons.
He went through a rough patch when he first got
in and he started winning. He got a taste of winning,
got a taste of getting close to that championship. And
he's had a rough two years. You know, they thought
they can do it together with him and KD. Sometimes

(25:43):
superstars don't match, but it's Devin Booker. A superstar. Is
Devil Booker a number one option?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Hell? Yes, school Chevin ye Well counts at seventy bro.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
While he was losing.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
It doesn't match seventy seventy on seventy any eleven, guy,
you are elite.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Every person who scored seventy loss, I'm wrong on that.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
My life.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Every person who scored seventy. Lost that Luca new Did
they win? He scored seventy? Yeah, he's the only one.

Speaker 6 (26:11):
It was.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
It's not about losing the seventy though. It's not like
he lost the seventy. It was when the game was
over and he was just chucking. Did he make get seventy?

Speaker 4 (26:22):
You got to take this, You got to make it
seventy and seventy. The motherfucker was shooting from anywhere.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
It did.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Listen to the pros.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Listen to listen to the pro I'm just saying what
Perk said.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
We all know you want to Burton said that Perk
not wrong book, not in the class of or SGA
because he doesn't win enough.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
But he did win. He didn't win, he got further.
He got further than that. You should know. We in
the league. Where what have you done for me lately?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
And I understand that lead, I totally get that, Joe,
understand what your saying. But to say that he's not
a number one option like those guys for the Phoenix Suns.
He is fucking SG A and and Anthony Edwards. Yeah, period,
But he has to prove himself. This is a year
where now he has to prove.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Don also won when he got a seventy Thank you nccary.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Uh, I'm gonna say this, he did some stats, thank you, Nika.
I would say this. Devin Booker's for sure a superstar.
The dude has had some unfortunate things that have transpired.
Regardless of what those are, He's still proving to be

(27:38):
one of the best scores in this league and played
at a high level. It was I think when you
bring a guy like Kevin Durant, you have to adjust
to Kevin Durant. So it makes you look at Devin
Booker a little differently because with a KD said when
he was with the Warriors, I'm fucking Kevin Durant. We look,

(27:58):
we look at Kevin like when we talk about USA
best players, we go Bron steph KD. Right, k D
immediately goes in front of Devin Booker. If you go
to Phoenix Suns, no matter how many times you sit
there and say this is Devin Booker's team, No, bro,
let's be real, it's fucking Kevin Durant.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Was Kevin Durant's team in Golden State? I think that
was it? Huh oh yeah, yeah, you go. They went
to Kevin Durant. At the end of the game, they
didn't go to Steve. But it worked.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
It worked that team put that team, it's orchestrated way
better than this Phoenix suns.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
My fault.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
It's also about fit, and it's also about who the
players are. Steph could play off the ball, Clay could
play off the ball. KD was an ISO guy and
he was a better get your get you a bucket
off the dribble, and he was six eleven seven feet.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
But what we say, all they missed, all they were
missing was a p So.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Can I ask you and a big man, can I
ask you as this when you compare teams, super teams, right,
big threes you put together obviously Katie, Stephan, Klay that
obviously fit really well. But the thing that was known
is that steps that I don't care about shots, come
here play whoever gets shot and gets shine with the
Miami heat where you put d Wade and Braun. D

(29:21):
Wade conceded his team to Braun, right, he said, he
put the batteries back and said, Braun, this is your team.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
At end of day.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
We go as far as you go. Right, although it's
Wade County, you gotta take us there. Didn't hear nothing
about Devin saying that the Katie or anything.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Two different players.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
So I'm just asking you as a question, that's.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Different attitudes, two different players.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
And is that the reason it didn't work?

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, the reason they didn't work is cause they gave
up Chris Paul. I think if they if they don't
give up Chris Paul and they were able to get
a big, I think we're having a total, totally different conversation.
He opens Chris is opening up that floor for everybody.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I think that matter. Leaders matter. Chris Paul didn't get
her when he played with James Harden.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
They had a chance to win chimps Andre Ayden. It's
probably a big piece. They got nothing for him. We
know he wasn't a fit.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
That ain't a fit, but he did his job. But
I'm gonna tell you he was good. They would have
got another good big. They would have got another good
big because they wouldn't have had to take Brad's contract.
Note with you, if they didn't have to take brass contract,
they would have not they would have been able to
go get a big and free agency or some ship
like that. They were fucking scrapping for bread at that

(30:33):
point last year because they would just getting They were
signing everybody on one year deals the minimally they didn't
have a choice.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
And three dudes making fifty plus? What was wrong with
that team? No point guard, no big point no point
guard and a legit big man.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
So you don't think Kevin Durant, Booker and Bradley Beal
I was gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
So I didn't think that he said it. Injuries did matter,
But I don't think.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
What's different between what's I mean, I have an idea,
but what's different between James James is the point guard. Right,
That's why Kevin Durant James, because because if James wasn't
on one hamstring and Cotton Springan's anka, we know Brooklyn's
winning the championship that year.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, So like those are three ball dominant players.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Still different, That's what I'm saying though. So at the
end of the day, it does come down to the
players not to fit.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you this.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
I think every team has to have at least at
least and if you have three, you have a better chance.
I think you at least have to have two guys
that can make plays and create like eyes. So when
I say that, I'm saying like, can do more than
just score. They can make plays for others. Can they

(31:48):
draw attention to everybody? So let me give you example,
Lebron and d Wade. They can take turns on who's
been the orchestrator of the offense. Because that doesn't just
mean they're gonna shoot the ball. That means that gonna
create a second man rotation, They're gonna make a play.
Last year, Sga and j Dubb were those two guys.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Rick. When you have.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Devin Booker, Brad Bill and Kevin Durant, you're asking three
guys who ultimately want to just put the ball in
the basket to be something they haven't been there damn
near their whole career. Right, Golden states to anomaly, we
can't even fucking count that team because they were already
made to be a team that the ball hops, the

(32:31):
ball moves. Draymond is that orchestrator for all that shit.
The team that went to the championship for fucking Phoenix,
they had Chris Paul, they had campaign that came off
the bench, they had guys that literally can had that
ball movement, and then Devin that's why they're great. We
don't want Devin Booker passing. We don't go to the
game to see Devin Booker get ten assists. I don't

(32:53):
go to the game to see Brad Beil pass. I'm
sure as hell don't go to a fucking game to
see Kevin Durrat pass. So they really have no playmakers.
That's the issue. That's why Kyrie and KD I mean,
Kyrie and Luca was elite because everyone Kyrie's passing is
underrated about very underrated. When you have two dynamic, unbelievable

(33:17):
playmaking guys like that, that is fucking scary. That is
hard to fucking guard. And that's why that Boston team
was so good. They had fall the motherfuckers Jalen Brown,
j T, Derek White, Drew Holliday. Then you had Peyton
Pritcher coming off the bench.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
What the fuck, what are you gonna do with that?
That's why they're beating the shit out of people when
niggas don't play. That team was stacked.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
It feels like that any big three that's worked out
has to have someone that makes a sacrifice and two playmakers.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Gotta have you.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
That's what happened here.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
That's why, that's why our team beat the maths team
beat Phoenix the year after they went to the finals.
We had three guys that can make plays. They didn't
know what the fuck to do because you can put
your best two for the fire. There's on Jayleen uh,
Jayleen Brunston and Luca Spencer went for thirty in game
seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
They like, what the fuck did we do?

Speaker 6 (34:11):
And it was over.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
That's why I keep saying, and I know I should
have on them last year. Fucking nerves. The league needs
to pay it like, and we might lose the bet.
If that ship works in l A. If that ship
works in l A, they got a fucking chance. If
DeAndre Ayton is himself, it could get real spooky. I agree,

(34:37):
they got some. They got some because with Houston being
out with Fred Vafleet, that opens that door up a
lot wider for them. You heard me, It really doesn't
to me. To me, that makes them a lot scarier
because now you can put Thompson at that point. I agree,
but I like that at the end of the season,

(34:59):
playing that pointint list, that might that might whoymaker. I
hate to say that, who's the other playmaker? Who's the
other playmaker? It was nice having Thompson and Fred. Who's
the other guy? Kevin the rest of score. It's the same,

(35:20):
right about that? And like they're scared, they're still.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Scary, bro.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
But it could also flip the other way because you
don't have that point guard slash leadership.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
But you guys just said about Phoenix, he'll.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Be He's still be there, and Ship the contributing leader
being leader, they might have to go get somebody else.
But I still think whether they is not gonna be.
It's not gonna be on Fred, Oh, Denvers winning this
bitch of Jamal Murray himself.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh, the Maps are gonna have something to say about
it too, though. Imagine when they get healthy. I'm gonna
I agree. That's scary, man.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
I think it's a for I think Houston, Okay, see
Denver and the Mavericks are probably my.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Favorite, which gonna be scary too. Ain't nobody talking about it? Clippers? Yeah, Minnesota,
what happened? Actually, it is a wide open was gonna
be scary. CP over there over there, Mark is smart
over there in l A. I know Lakers. Yeah, yeah,

(36:25):
Lakers gonna be I'm telling you that pick. It was
a great pick up.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
So you guys feel all these teams are somewhat contender.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. What do
we always say? It comes down who the healthiest team.
Who's the healthiest team. That's gonna come down to injury.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Some teams can afford more injuries, right, Like LA can't
afford injury. Yeah, Los Angeles can't afford an injury.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
The Clippers can't.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
No, sorry, I'm talking about Lakers. The Lakers can't afford
an injury. I don't think Minnesota can afford an injury.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I don't think any of these motherfuckers really afford the injury. Other.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
I mean, if you lose, if you lose your mom, Murray,
I think you could still get you to the second
the other playmaker. It's a good point, but we've seen
do it by himself.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
They got they got Bruce back, But like I said,
was hard Away Johnson, Cam Johnson.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
This is what that's all you need was a guy
like him.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
I agree with that ball to him and he just
but the reason you're getting all these guys to take
down his usage rate.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I think, okay, season one team can offord an injury
just because I think check could step up.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I don't think okay, seeking for one either not to win,
but to still be pretty talking about contenders, Yeah, I
meant a ford An injury and still be making the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
But stop that.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
I'm talking about the team that lost all their bigs
at one point and it still was beating people. Yeah,
that's the fact that sing They wouldn't do that in
the playoffs, though, I know that we were just talking
about something happened during the season.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Season, it comes down to who's the health of your
team in the playoffs. I'm it comes out.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I mean, and they got healthy at the right time.
That got healthy at the right time, and the red
at the end of the season, guys started working their
way in and they went on their run.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I'm okay, homeboy had the fucking broken arm. He's still
get I don't know that I forgot about that.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Say that. God, damn, what's the name? But what's the name?
I was watching a clip of all the players they had. Yes,
that's damn the deepest hell.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
The Knicks got better bro nigs. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
I was like I think the next is the only
team I think can actually be a team in the West. Sure,
I don't think any other team in the East I
see beating the team.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
In the West. How you go to keep this inspect
of Cleveland, bro Cleveland's still good.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
You ready know my thoughts on Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Milwaukee about in the season, Milwaukee, somebody in the season.
These teams they had the number, they had one of
the top records last year for sure, and what happened
to them.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Okay, I understand what you're saying. But they still know
my thoughts on They're still going to win games, Bron.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
You know my thoughts on Dawn and one. So where
I'm at, I'm not changing that.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
We'll see. You gotta show me.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Clearly Cleveland sixers if they're healthy.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
But that's the biggest Lando got better. Got about sixers
get better adding bang. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
But Orlando's like I think they they still gotta go
like go through. Yeah, they still like a battle. They're
not there yet because you know experience. I think they
have to go through a battle yet, and they're not that.
Like their best player, Polo is not the top five,
top ten player in the league. So like I don't
think he can just woo you.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
But he's on his way. He's on his way. I
don't know his way. So top five, top ten, he
said ten. You need it, you need it.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
I mean typically look.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
The imbalance of the lead between You're right, it's gonna
be bad.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
The Warriors are asked, I mean the wars would be okay,
they won't know. I'm not talking about no, he said,
the Warriors. I was talking about the one before that. Yeah, listen,
I can see the East you can squeak into play
with like thirty six wins.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Gonna be bad. They're gonna be really, it's gonna be bad.
There's too many injuries over.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
There right now.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
But I feel like the West is the records are
gonna be close. Though the records are going to be
close like they were last year.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
It's gonna be a bunch of losing records, be honest,
five hundred if if Jannis don't get no help, it's
gonna be a big block buster. Trade happened in the
middle of the season, and I would love to see
where he goes. I'm not worried about that long as
Yannis is on the team when the season starts. Care
about you want that, we want chance. We only don't

(40:30):
give them about no dinner. I don't care no more.
We we're banking on bron at this point. Make a
block right care this point. But I just know if
Janni's if nothing shapes up for honest, Janice is gone.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is his last year.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
If he's not gonna finish, you know how to beginning season,
He's going to the year finish.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
We talked about Milwaukee.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
What do they look.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
He's not gonna finish the year.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Don't have they don't have a lead guard, but they
do have Miles and the Honest and the paint. They're
gonna be a little formidable down there. You ain't gonna
score down in the East.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
That's good, right, That will hold you. That will hold you.
This year he's gonna be straight. That just hold you.
This the playoff. There's no way thing comes back this year.
I'm tripping.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
They got Kevin Porter, he waved, they waved him, and
then and then that crazy you waved li.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Who Tory, Torri and Prince he's there three probably whose
day two?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
When the season start started, typing home what's his name?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
When the season start October twentieth.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
You play that dude, what's his name?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
That no, Gary Trent Junior, Gary Trent Jr. Yeah, I'll
give you right now. Uh we got it's respectable. You
know he got some pieces Bobby Porters too.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
So the Bucks. The Bucks start the season with a Washington, duh, duh,
Toronto and Toronto. There's a lot of factors there.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
There is Toronto.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
There's a lot of factors, specially.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
It's early. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Their three is Kyle Kuzmo.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
That we forgot about Kyle Kuzm. That's respectable.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
I mean what he did in the playoffs last year,
a lot of people counting him out. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
So they got a three, they got a three games three,
They got a three games street playing teams that been
beating the ass. They play Cleveland Knicks Warriors. If they
I can see it getting rocky. If they lose those games,
just those three, we'll see they'll walk. Is gonna be respectable.

(42:44):
Let's be good fourteen?

Speaker 2 (42:48):
It can be good. Fair to say, no, they're not
a top fourteen. No, I don't think so easily next
to Cleveland exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
I somewhat feel I saw what feel like Orlando is
gonna be a really good regular season team.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I think they're gonna show on the playoffs, and I'm
not counting out.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Actually, Boston lost a lot even with JB there. Okay,
so what are we talking about? Exactly what I said?

Speaker 3 (43:13):
You know, I got Philadelphia, Philadelphia, we got about it.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I got Nick Cleveland, Philly, Bucks is Philly. Everybody's healthy.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, if everybody's healthy, I think you to be just
supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Think.

Speaker 9 (43:28):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I think I got Cleveland number one, regular season regular
season team, regular season team, nixt number two, Philly, and
then Orlando.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
That's my top.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Detroit, Detroit to Yeah, actually, give me a sprite, give
me a sp.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Sow.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
I think Milwaukee's the top fourteen. Ya disrespected giannest bro
Jannis is a motherfucking.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
She needed to get Brad problem.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
They need to get Brad this offseason.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah, Brad would have been a perfect fig.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Now now my predictions, remember how wild they were? They
look even worse now. They looks even worse now.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
They still got pieces. Man, We'll see they still appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Well, let's get to others. Let's get to Patrick beverly.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Man gonna be scary if they're healthy.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Take us out.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Weren't talking about his first comment. He said, I was
a thirty four year old starter. I was a thirty
five year old starter. I was a thirty three year
old starter. I was a thirty two year old starter.
It's Trey Young going to be thirty three, thirty four
to thirty five starter in this league at that size,
at that age. How he's about twenty eight right now,
twenty seven, y'all have any comments?

Speaker 3 (44:58):
So y'all just want to move on from now.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
He's not gonna be started.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Treye just turned twenty seven a couple of last week.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Six years.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
He's already six six seven in right years in Yeah,
so he's saying basically in his year thirteen.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Jesus, even if he doesn't start, he's still commish more
than his whole career.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I don't know what the conversations and what were you talking?
Why were you even talking about this? What next topic?

Speaker 4 (45:25):
The crazy part is he said I'm not even giving
him my energy, and then he went out and then
he's given him energy.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Don't want to move on to the next one. Move on,
all right, let's this is an actual debate. He says
he was the best defender during his LA and Houston
since self became best defender in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
With Tony in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yes, that's with and you know he's from Chicago too,
so he definitely talked to Tony about it before.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I know that for a fact. Pap BEV was a
great defender, but.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Better than Tony Allen. No let me yo, no, no, no, no,
but no, I'm not saying to you I'm upset. Yeah, bullshit.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Bad is a great defender. But if you have to
tell people you're a great defender, then you're not the
great defender. It should be like no, who, Like when
you say who, you're not going to think of Pap Bad.
I promise you that you know who I thought.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Was the best defender, Well, I thought the best defender
after it was probably was Avery Bradley.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Avery was nice, he was way better. Lock was terrifying.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Aby Bradley and then ninety four.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah he was terrified sometimes, but you know my nixt
days got him. That's when he was young though, right,
that's what.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
We're talking about, like twenty fifteen to twenty, like eighteen
twenty nineteen, Avery Bradley was like lockdown.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Then, no, he was. He was locked down when he
first came in. Who he That's who he was. But
t A, when you think of bed best defender, do
you think of.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
When you think of the best guard defenders, you think
about Tony Allen? Think about Tony was. So he started
twenty thirteen in Houston. So Tony was there about twenty
sixteen then trying to stopped playing. So from twenty sixteen
to twenty nineteen. There's where the debate is. Kawhi I
got Kawhi as well, Paul Georgia. Yeah, Paul, I'm just

(47:25):
talking about like guards. Drew Holliday, how smart like those
dudes was like, man, it's gonna be a hell of
a night. You know what I'm saying, Like dudes like that,
especially Drew.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
That's what I'm saying too. I don't get this.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Papa never got a defensive Player of the Year, right.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
No, but remember guards don't really get them. The only
guard to get one in the last thirty forty years
is smart and smart.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Huh he was. He was a small defense's first defense.
I think one time, are we sure? I think? I
look at you're right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
He has three all defensive nominations, won first two second teams.
I'm think it's I think who were speaking of yesterday.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
I'm not gonna disrespect Pat Bev because he was a
good defender. He played with he played with herd, he
played with passion, and he took pride in on the
defensive end. Let's let's be honest. But like I said,
when you start talking ship about other players, then that's

(48:29):
when people start opening up and critiquing what you did
in your game. And that's that's not what we need
to be doing. And I said this the last time
we talked about this. That's not what we need to
do as athletes is talk about each other because then look,
it's gonna start critiquing your game. Okay, Trey Young did
this and doing this, he was an all star, he

(48:50):
doing all this. Let's go back to your game. Now
people gonna start talking crazy about you. And it's like,
don't don't open yourself up to ship that don't need
even talk about. Was you a great defender? Yes, Pat Beverley,
you used to give people fits you did.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah, what is the new currency in today's world?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
It is You're right, that's a bar.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
That's a bar.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
It's a bar, right, So that's what he's doing right,
just giving him attention. This is probably no disrespect great player.
I would loved to play with the dude, like keep
it real because he wanted to do the things that
nobody else wanted to do and he was good at it.
But this is probably the most we've ever talked about him, right,

(49:35):
So he's doing the right thing by staying relevant. But
it's the wrong way to do it. I think it's
to talk about another player. But attention is the new
currency today.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Talked about more when he did the whole celebration.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
But there's nothing wrong with There's nothing wrong with saying, uh,
I've been one of the best defenders in the league
for a while.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
No one's arguing that. Everybody be like, yeah you are?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Was he really one of the best defenders? Will be
more of a past because I remember Russell's you're just
a past. You're not really that great of a defender.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Being a piss it makes you makes you a good defender.
You could be a pass and be some ship like
they used to throw him on. They used to throw
him on dudes like Paul George and him, and he
used to give them fits because he's to get up
on the room. He used to be be filing the
ship too, but like he used to give them problems, bro,
Like just be honest. Alex Caruso was a past Caruso.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
That's what I'm saying. Not be a great defender as well.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Drew Holidays, He's not. Yeah, that was one of the
one of the better defenders than best. I can't give
him that. I'm gonna be honest with you. Don't think.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Shout out to t a Braakmond Green is one of
the best defenders I've seen.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
And Paul George back then, Paul George.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
All that Kawhi Leonard, Rudy, go back when I saw
when I saw Kawhi Leonard, when I saw Kawhi Lynn.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
He's repeating himself multiple times, when.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
I saw Kawhi Leonard palm the basketball off of cross.
Not gonna talk about when I saw Kawhi Leonard do that.
How many defensive of the year this Rudy got four five.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
He's not one of the best. Can you let him
finish the story before you get to the Rudy that's
not one of the best defenders.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
When we think about defenders, this is this is the
sad part. The NBA should be a shaded You didn't
even think about it. Who Rudy. We've been talking about this,
we've been talking about defenders, and we just said's name
and you just brought him up.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
And the argument is you can't even bring Rudy up here?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
You know why? Why because he's not a fucking guard. No.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Because if you have to pull someone out of the
game with the ten seconds left on the clock on
the defensive end.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Why does he had four words?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Because of it's broken?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
This is you know who more feared?

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Kurt is messing everything up? Guys just took down.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
I don't know, I didn't know Kurt was on the computer.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
He's on the computer today.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, computer, we are what is going going on?

Speaker 8 (52:14):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (52:14):
And in the chat guys.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
But anyways, but you have to pull.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Him out of the game. Do you know who's more feared?
Anthony Davis? For sure, he's a good defender. He has none.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Hey, have you ever seen Anthony Davis pull out of
the game the clock and have you.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Ever has none that needs to be studied? He has none.
So then you're basically saying the system is broken.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
It's broken.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
So then we can't go off but badfist saying, then, right, well,
he's a good defender because he got what he got
one defensive first team and.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Two in the second teams. That's none That shop matters now,
the defensive. I'm a good defender.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Get the fun out.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
I'm nice in defense is broken.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
You cook up his ass too?

Speaker 4 (53:04):
What you mean can't guard me? I ain't not guarding me.
I can't guard you either. Who gonna have to You're
gonna have to get it in the post. I would
jump up Rade to death, bro, Charlie, you kidding me.
I don't even see him, Charlie, Are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (53:19):
I can't fuck ra very fucking fast and ship. I'm
gonna give him space, give him.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Arms, Charlie.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
If you at that three point line you think you're
gonna back me down, you know fucking well, I'm gonna
go straight to the bar that I'm gonna go straight
to the box. That's what I'm saying. If you ever
kissed that motherfucker the three point line, your ass is done.
He's not gonna let you just sit. I'm not gonna
basket and I'm gonna you just just take me to
the box either that's not happening, that's not I'm too
strong for.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
That, So you're gonna tell me I'm not Charlie, Charlie,
that's two fifty ninety at that time, long as ship
strong as ox and listen, he bow legged. You know
they got big walk.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
He used to run barefoot in Soth Carolina.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
John punking you to death?

Speaker 6 (54:15):
Ray?

Speaker 2 (54:15):
What was D a slogan? What was D a slogan?
Remember that was the slogan don't get posted up?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
What Charlie would have posted your ass up? Who's getting
We're back ladies and curR fixing ship man.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
He's getting the first bucket in a one v one
between me and Charlie. Let's see what the chat says.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Who get ball first? Don't let me get ball first?

Speaker 6 (54:41):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Or Ray back?

Speaker 7 (54:43):
Like?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Which way are you giving me? Were talking about me?

Speaker 6 (54:46):
What Ray?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
And we're talking about prime years? Both of you'll Mavericks next?
Ray Mavers?

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Ray was a mother help me my prime. You gotta
look at some film, that Charlie film. Charlie, my problem
you you caught me. You caught me in college you
mean Milwaukee. See you caught me in college when I
told your point ground as a posse man.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
You got us.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah, you caught me in my prime too. Now, don't
your problem with Knicks or what's your what's your prime?
You don't want to talk to Knicks?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (55:16):
That one you know you don't want You don't want Nicks.
You don't want Nicks Ray. He was nineteen and nine,
Nate Nicks Ray. Problem it would have been it had
been a good game, Charlie, I'm gonna leave it that walk.
Your your best year was right now, right now, right
now on frying his help and everything. Hey, fuck no,

(55:44):
right when to the nerves. I'm attacking that motherfucking nerve.
I'm be poking this ship out that motherfucking nerve. Your
nerve is done? You talking about?

Speaker 6 (55:54):
All right?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
You know what trying to? We're going ahead and vote
for myself and the.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Go ahead and get me, go ahead and get me,
get me old, give me your buddy out here and
gonna play about two months all right? Yo?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
So what we should set up a game when we
I'm finding them?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
What are we saying this?

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Two months December? First? I need two weeks game to three.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I give you no, no, no, we gotta go at
least five game of seven, game of seven, I think seven.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
I hurt, paramedics got them five.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I take the five. I'm rated.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I'm roasting December first to the balls done on the
first episode that week.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I'm with it. The first is not gonna be faster,
all right?

Speaker 3 (56:44):
What's made happen?

Speaker 4 (56:45):
So now I can play a little bitter you play
if my motherfucking hip get ridd I'm a boy. You
crazy is here?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Don't get hip hasn't been right? You giving me? You're
giving me damn too much.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
By the way, it's eighty percent to twenty percent. Ray,
And I know you voted for yourself.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
You vote damn. Can we see who the fuck know?
We can just voted for Ray.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
I like it. I like it like he gotta pick
this guy. You pick a guy, you gotta pick it
out off talent. Tell hey, CV, you ain't shot a back.
We saw the first shot. Play the cut, Kurt, Charlie,
walk off this motherfucking studio. If you play, guess what

(57:35):
I shoot better than I do than I did when
I play. Now, I'm telling that. Now, I'm still in
the gym almost every day.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I trained.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
Good.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
We can do that too.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
Hey, this contest because you because you know, because you
know you like you said, you shooting contestant.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
And shoot. We can do that.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
We can still do the one if you want, if
you want to promise and walk when we can do
we can do shooting now, all right, okay, let's do it.
We can do shooting.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Money up on this.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Of course, I'm doing nothing free, not whatever? He said?
What we do a thousands? So shooting comp? Next my bank, bro,
good do a thousand shooting comp. Next week? You're doing
a thousand?

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Hey, shoot shooting comp next week? Thousand next week next week? Hey,
next where we're going we'll go Tuesday. We figured out local.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
We go to the cowboys ship. They got to sit
right here.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
We're gonna watch. We don't wat no problem. How much
you put on the one on one in December, another thousand.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Thousands all I am nervous about the one on one.
I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Gonna be comedy.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
It's gonna be comedy, but we'll we'll be the comedy.
I feel so bad for my niggas right now.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I gotta break somebody. I gotta break somebody is I
might have to stress and I ain't no way right
right right now, you biatic. You know what that ship.
You don't see how you got up and don't get right.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
That's just not gonna go. Wait, but listen, you're giving
me way too long. You give me way too long
to get that right. You give me way too long
to get that right.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Charlie.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
They put his own film and they put this whole film.
I'm not gonna be embarrassed, but we don't. We have
we haven't played boarding so long so that to be
so disciplined now, so it's gonna be so hard. Bro,
I don't see you doing that he's taking. I don't
see you being consistent from today to December. No way, no,

(59:42):
wait for a thout out.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
That's why he goes. But take it serious though it's
a thou wound. I say no, no, no, No.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Racing is serious because it's gonna be public in film.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Taking this you think I'm gonna do? It's not taking serious?
You got man? If I wouldn't, my fucking head, better'sh
wrap you better win, mother. I bring that motherfucking half bad.
He is trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
You stand me know you guys get three times.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Yeah, three times out? We do get one time out.
So I needed time, about time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Out of the point your thirty second break, thirty second
break break, this is I'm winning.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
You went on the shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
He take that money.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
I don't care if it's not. I want him on
the shoot contest, y'all really want me in the shoot cop?

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
You you you in the shooting. You in the shooting?
Of course. Absolutely. I shoot every day because I got
none to lose.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
You're supposed to beat me, but when I beat your
mother sucking ass, it's gonna be embarrassed. I really want
me to be in this yes, not the one on
want ship. Hey, I'm winning next Wednesday. We'll let you

(01:01:14):
guys know for next Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Anyways, next topic, we've got j Jackson thirty minutes, so
shout out to Ja Jacks will see him soon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Top ten lists. We're gonna skip the cominga tal because
we're talking about enough. Top ten list, Kurt, you wanta
pull that up? I gotta it's it's not the it's
not the worst top ten what the NBA. Remember, we still.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Give you some context.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Now, my phone my fault.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
So ESPN's latest top right number one, Luke. I don't
know about Luca, but I agree with, say about Luca,
then you honest? Then victors five, that's a little high.
Anthony Edwards, Steph Curry, Lebron, James, Kevin Durant and then
Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
How are you feeling?

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Does you know wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Victor number five? Mm hmm you did not have number
five yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I did it. But I can respect it. I can
respect over over Anthony, Anthony replaced which one? I can't
count them? Dude. You take down the one way out,
but the though so you gotta count them. When you say, Ray,
you got to remove them. You gotta remove That's what
I said.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
But you can't remember that the one one bucket thing.
Click on the three dots and it's just say close, Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
You can't remove. Yes, christ yo, but he worked.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Through the kinks. Ah, now we got my basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
What was this, Kurt? Your panicking?

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
There's something there's some people that under the lights. Your
your wife is panicking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
You see, you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Just be really to take all of us to the trouble.
We ain't trouble, man. We're gonna lose people for a
couple of weeks. Man and fucking man, we in trublet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Lok we do need to. We need to. We need
a sportsbook sponsor, anybody that can do this job. Man,
just send your resumes. Man, we're taking applications and we
need either prospect of the dog for this. We need
help for this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Does anybody are we good with this list?

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Y'all have anything else to say?

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
What's wrong with that? I give Victor five already?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
That's The's my only thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Can we give him five already? Victor Big there should
be too. You can't give him five.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
He hasn't even been to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I mean all those guys up there that he's in
front of the lights.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
To guarantee you, this is a fact that Victor wouldn't
be on this year. I believe you will be number five.
I believe, agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
So they're basing our potential, but we gotta see it.
But we got to see it. But I can prom
he might be top three, top three around up hey.
But he got the upside to do that. He does,
and I don't huh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
He ain't taking no ship, he ain't taking potentially, Lucas
shouldn't be three. Actually it's skinny revenge.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Luke revenge. Luca Joanna should be.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Three John should be three. He ain't taking N or
SG unless there an injury.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
This should be three and Victor Luca four or five.
Listen in front of it. If he's in front of anybody,
he could be in front of Jalen, but even then
he don't thinking in front of Jalen. Now what Jalen
done in New York and them big like, we know, bro,
just what he's done in those lights, Charlie, you know

(01:04:47):
New York just cut through it ain't That's not an
easy place to play, bro, Bro. Every single one of
those dudes has done it at the highest level except Victor.
How are you gonna disrespect? And Steph Brown, k D
and Brunson nigga've been to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Or sniffed it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
That's the fact he's been playing a lot of meaningless basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
It's not better than eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
That's saying, yeah, he's not, he's not. He's not. I
kind of agree. It's not better than Harlow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Well, we're gonna fight out this year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
I got a chance to make me two thousand next week,
but this is next week. I think they shooting to you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Oh you're oh yeah, oh for the thousand and two.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
So you got money on Ray for the game for
one one for the game. I'll take Charlie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
We do a handle on it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
I just get Charlie because that's my man. So just
raise my man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I guess, give me, give me a und now right winning.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
See, I just do it for the fun of it.
I don't know who's gonna win.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
You never really seen you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
I mean, first of all, let's talk about what you said.
You said Bray is strongest.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
He got kids. I got multiple kids, So do I?
He got multiple so do I? What do me down? Got?

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
He's not gonna let you post. You're definitely not posting
them up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Now what you're gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Don't worry about I haven't there There is zero chance
he is in the gym every day. There is zero
chance you can get past Ray.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
We'll find out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
We'll find out when's the last time you dribbled the basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
I might have took a back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
And that's the point.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
That's that gonna be at the gym doing all that
ship and then we'll cook is at to a cat
that is having dribbled a ball in like ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
You see, I just put an on t to make
it interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
What's that's gonna be bullshit. No bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
You can click my hondle from j Jackson, but no me,
no care, I can't wait for all right, pull the
best NBA Jerseys cart.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
All right, we ranked our best NBA jerseys. We gotta
drag that window.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Why is so small?

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I mean this is kind of way. Make our window smaller.
Dragon window up to the top, by the way, please,
all right, I just picked some of the jerseys that
I thought were the best for each franchise. You guys
can think there's different ones, but so let's start with
the Clippers, the Red Ones, the O G Clippers ones.
What we're thinking is it S tier, which is you know,

(01:07:25):
I guess god heer A is really good, B as average,
C is bad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
D is just booty. I give him see, I'm see,
I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
It's just so everybody knows why we're doing this. A
lot of teams are bringing back throwback jerseys like the
fire the Black Sixers jerseys. Uh, you know, the Timberwolves jerseys,
fire to the one that he played.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Pacers jersey. What you guys think, I'm an a tier.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
There's some strong ass teams here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
I'm given B B, right, what are you bo?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Okay, we'll be Tier the Wizards.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Gold ship weak that I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Orlando's cheer stripe s teer for sure, Tier Atlanta Pistol
pete Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Is an F that ship week week, that's a C.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
I'm gonna be B. I'm gonna be so now when
I came, I'm gonna be a C. So I guess
we go with the lowest one. No, no, we got
we're going to the average.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
We see it's a mean rare B is appuracy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Maybe the O g uh Bill Walt, Bill Walton that
ship we we I I'm gonna be I'm an be
in that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
So what do you? Ship is weak? I guess we
go see they see.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
They see the Pistons, te Jersey pin stripes, A.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I'm a hornets to.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
It's Kurt, Kurt.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
What did you think, Kurt? What are you doing? Three
to one?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Three to one?

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
He said?

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
As to Okay, Bucks Ray Allen, that's solid.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
But I guess I'll go.

Speaker 6 (01:09:25):
That's a s T.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
I don't want to hear it either. Directors.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah, that's the jazz.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
I think the jazz on was tough by the way,
I think that's A. Really no, that's that's A. That's
a A for me, So I guess we're lying around B.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
He's a D.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Cason raised me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
That's A. Y'all like that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
That's B for me to B give it. We give
it a B, give it a by B. He's A
you're ce and he's he's so these jerseys, bro, I
like this heat join this this, this is Jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
That's just a B for me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
What do you A?

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
The Heat Jersey? Heat Jersey? The Kings Jerseys tough?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
That's weak.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
I'm a A for the Kings Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
See what are you? Kings Jersey?

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):
Blue?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
One for sure? Rockets B the Rockets, Joy the Rockets.
It's gonna be at least a B.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
That's a D for me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yeah, we give them a to see.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
That's anny was boring as hell. D.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
This is we New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
That's A that's a D. Yeah, that's a beach for me.
Or see for me, this is an A for sure.
That was a hard.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
The Blue Clippers Lakers Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
That's A.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
I mean that's for me, that's A.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
That's a D. That's that's just kind of weak.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
That was one of my favorite jerseys growing up, the
Kobe Bryant, the eight with the blue.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
We put that, put that B. I guess B.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
What about the Wolves?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
You think y'all think that Lakers jerseys better than the
New Orleans one? I do? Yeah, yeah, the Rockies, the
Rockies ship.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
All right, I'm gonna be I think it's tough, but
I like it's a It's one of my favorite jerseys.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
What are you, Charlie?

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
I like Blake jerseys.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
All right, so we're be on that hurt the Nuggets
A sorry as for me?

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Give a what do you Nuggets like? I like, all right,
we're here like that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
The Phoenix on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Trash trash d for me, weak as fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
That's always.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
The New York Joints is playing bro. I like it,
but it's playing the.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Bulls pinstripe jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Put that over over the yeah, put it at the top.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
This is playing bro.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
What pin stripe you said? You just said that you
love the Orlando one. What's the differen between that Celtics joints?

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
The Celtic Joints a D.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
BRO.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
That's it's the same for the last forty years. That's
that's a D.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
It's a classic Celtics joint. Give it a C for
Celtics classic. Wait, what do you they got that? From
this here? What's below? D that's the same they using that.
That's the every day jersey?

Speaker 7 (01:12:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
So you are you d go the playoffs with that ship?

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Are you de ce Charlie? I'm looking all right, so
d T Mavericks O G Mavericks Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
I'm a solid. Were you guys A m.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
Hmm b B.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
All right, Curt, you're just you de side air B. Kurt,
You're you're the last vote. He's a beat here on
Cleveland joints is fire.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
That might be an As for me, bro that Cleveland
it's fine and it's black, but I'm gonna put a
joint coming up up there in the I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
A Cleveland's a for me?

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
What do you got? Charlie? I had asked y'all had
the Cleveland winn a and ask.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
What is that? What do you? A? Crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
AI Jersey asked.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Real, I can't wait to see because you think about
the player? Are you I like the jersey?

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Are you?

Speaker 6 (01:13:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
The toughest fun that might be one of the toughest
ones up there. Other than to said that, I got
like a warriors that ship trashes because the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Lie about it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Let's rite, Let's rank the top ones for just s tier.
What's the best Stier jerseys?

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
The Raptors?

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
For me, it's the Raptors me. It might be that
it might be actually pistols and pistols and the Orlando Joint.
What you got? I got? I got.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
It's tough. It's between Toronto, Vancouver and that Philly Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Okay, so I guess Vancouver because we all said three
of us at Vancouver, so I give it to Vancouvers one. Okay,
I'm cool with putting the pin stripes is the pin
stripes orland Fire?

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
I had that McGrady jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
I still got. I got the penny.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
You want to put that too?

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
What are we doing ranking jerseys now?

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Just the top jerseys?

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
I put that too? That's fair? Which one? Raptors one?
That's fair?

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
All right, let's put that two cart I'm putting Toronto
Toronto next.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
What are you no?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
I'm keeping the pistols Toronto Toronto, Donald's three four, It's
solid at five. Charlet's sons in front of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
The bulls are five.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
The bulls balls are five?

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
For me?

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
What do you guys think?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Who should have been in front of Detroit Charlotte?

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
No, no, no, Sons have had Charlotte for sure, super.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Sonics, super Who you got? I got? I got bulls,
and I got sons, Sons to sons, I got sons
and IRONX is last. I'm with that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
I like that list.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
I mean it was all five. Respect it all right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Cool before we bring on Jay Jackson Cleveland?

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
You don't like the Cleveland joy ere all right, let's
get to Let's get to the Warriors then, because we
got a little bit of time for Jay Jackson. Jonathan
Kamingo is not at the Warriors mini camp that was,
I guess hosted by Jimmy Butler and San Diego.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
He shouldn't be, but obviously causing havoc. We talked about
it a little earlier. Raid laughed at me when I
said their championship run, which I don't think they have
a championship in them, but obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
That's a big distraction. What are you guys thoughts or
he doesn't show up?

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
He did the right thing. Don't show up right now?
They have to figure shit out. It's there's some turmoil
over there with that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
So it ain't that he don't fool with his teammates.
Is that I want my money.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Or trade me or trade me like you're not gonna
hold me hostage. I'm gonna cause havoc if you're gonna
hold me hostage. So it's just it's best for the team.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
To the period.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
I wouldn't went to that motherfucker either, And there's no
I probably called him. There ain't no disrespect for y'all,
but y'all know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I know I'm not coming, and the players understand that
they knew he wasn't coming. Yeah, the players understand.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
The fact that they're talking about it is crazy to me,
but they got to talk about it. You gotta let
it be know. I'm pretty sure his can't put it out. Hey, look,
missing in action. Will show up to that motherfucker. They
fucking with me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Burn said it wasn't a team camp, so what the
fuck was it? It was?

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
It was a mini camp, a mini camp Jimmy Butler
put together on Burton the team camp manam ship. We
don't put the title on it, but everybody has those.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Right before that you all show up to one spot.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
And camaraderie, go to dinner. You gotta pay for your
own way, so right now? Yeah, oh yes, especially and
you gotta pay for your own way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
I'm not going to pay those Hell yeah, that's not
camp in the team event.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
That's like maybe maybe maybe the superstar gets it, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
For the even there we all millions. What it looked
like me calling your raid come pay for my ship.

Speaker 6 (01:18:13):
I get you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
You can pay for my ship.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Too, now, yeah, but you might. I got him ready
book for you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
All right, cool, my fault, my fault. Like that, y'all like,
do the worst make the the the worst? Top for
eight this year?

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
I don't think so. They're playoff team. I think they're
like nine or ten. They're playoff team?

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Are they top eight?

Speaker 7 (01:18:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Are they? They got the best shoot in.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
The world and they got arguably one of the best
second best players in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Let's so let's let's know who's got a chance Denver, Okay, Clippers, Houston, Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Lakers, Lakers, you still got fucking Steph Minnesota?

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Are they top?

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Don't forget miss I have fours over Memphis. Stop right there,
stop just gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
They just lost doon Ban when they got k CP.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
What a bet?

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Right, what y'all does with the ball, What y'all does
with the ball, comparing what this man got, this man
got Chi did not play well last.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Year Desmond Bane is a twenty point score? Is that fair? Yes?
Twenty three twenty three.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
To be twenty three round there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
A CP is a glue guy needed, which is needed. Absolutely.
I'm not knocking Casey, but he's not gonna give you
twenty three every.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Night average twenty three two years ago and twenty last year.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Twenty So he's a twenty point score. K CP is
maybe a ten. KCP is a winner, I'm not I'm
not saying he's not. I think what they were missing
is a guy like ca CP. They didn't have one.
So who is so casep your third option? That's what
I'm hearing. No, I wouldn't say third option. Okay, so

(01:20:04):
that's been Baby's Bane the third option. He was, Hey,
so who's your third option?

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
I think that mean it was your second option?

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
Was so he was the second option to the second
over was not over Jared Jackson. But let's just give
him the third Let's just give him the third option.
So who is the third option for Memphis? You gotta
figure that out?

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Figure that out? You want to pull up the roster.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
I got the roster up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Put the roster.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
He called the guy Algebra.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Oh yeah, Algebra, that's your third option.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
No, no, not, you know Algebra bvaguely, this roster is old, bro,
What the hell? Let me pull up this new one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Second the numbers guy. I caught it real quick. Who's
the third option.

Speaker 9 (01:20:49):
For you?

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Algebra Caldwell, Pop, Brandon Clark, Cedric Coward, Zach Edy, p J. Hall,
G Jackson, Jared Jackson Jr. Ti Jerome, John con Car,
Jock Landell Jerome. I said, Jerome, Yeah, that's what I was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
The third guy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Jamal Mussak, John Moran, Scottie Pippen Jr. Cam Spencer, Jalen
Wells and Vince Williams Junior.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Scotti Jr. And the Wales kids was ooping last year.
He's your third option.

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
He was hooping Wells, Wells, either Wills or to Jerome.
Jerome was a problem in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
He's your third option. That's no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
He could be here the young kid Wills.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
So how are they better than the Warriors?

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Though? Yeah, these dudes just to be saved than the
Warriors for real right now?

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Yeah, Dad, ash who who said they was better than anybody?
Y'all said they was just weren't going to make the playoffs.
They didn't have nothing. We said Golden State, and for
some reason, I don't know, you threw out Memphis and
I said Memphis, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
I said, Memphis is gonna be for Memphis, I said,
watch out for me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
And Charlie both said they're not better than the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
And you was like, wait a minute, I don't think
they both ant what makes that so guaranteed? So Mask,
I don't think it's guaranteed. But I'm asking, what do
you think Memphis is a better team than the Warriors
this year?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I think they could beat the construct So we take
who's number one for Memphis?

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
But let me say that, Giles Staff, hold on, let
me get up, let me get this ship off right now,
they're both playing the teams.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Get it off.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
It's one game, Giles staph who are you taking? Jimmy Butler?
Who's j Jackson?

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Jared jack Sharon Jackson I'm taking Jimmy taking Jimmy playoff Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Can we talk about y'all for real right now? Third option?
Ti Jernes, Oh, who's the third option?

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Jonathan KAMINGA.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
I guess y'all claim I'm taking.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
I'm talking about the roster right now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
I'm taking Buddy Healed over Ti j ro Man. You
know what what is y'all? Yeah? We see the Memphis Yes,
they quiet say I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
You're talking about taking players and this and that. I'm
just comparing them one and one. Steph is on his
way out, so most people, most people will go with
a young job. So that because Steph Curry, because Steph
Curry ain't guarding John Moran, they're putting somebody else on.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
John Moran is not guarding Steph Curry exactly put on Steph.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
I think that year did I think guard if I
remember correctly, or they had no Dylan? Did Dylan guarded Steph?
Championship run?

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
That championship run all right?

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Listen, Kirk, can you roll the clip of the shooting
contest future what those shooting contest we're about to have?

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Yeah, disrespectful, roll the clip, Kurt. I'm fucking up. I'm
fucking you up. That's what I'm saying. Bro that might
have to fire me. That's what I'm saying. Hr That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
List they have a fucking cage. Look at that. You
got a cage. I'm sucking six ten. That won't be
there when you're shooting right that ain't gonna be there.
If that cage wasn't there, that she was gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Right, Just so you know, look at the pole by
the way that people got rad I'm rocking with you, Charlie.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
That's fine, That is fine. That's ten other people other
than me. I got Ray is crazy? You the way
to move better than me? Right now?

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
No wait, Charlie with a bad hip, I will still
beat you at a fucking race right now, a race?

Speaker 7 (01:24:39):
Help you field, I was still fucking Can we go
to the football field forty your dish.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Away right here from some right now announce can we
make it for.

Speaker 9 (01:25:01):
I'm going right now, Wallace, we're both the stream right after.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
I will race.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
We're gonna we will go down there after the stream.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Let's go right now after ring right now right where
you Ray, You're done. You're crying all right bro, alright,
I will tell my I won't tear my shop all socials, Hey, guys,
all socials.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
We're gonna end the stream right after and then we're
gonna start the new stream. Guys with with with the
gimbo going out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
There right there, crazy all tell you up, I won't
here this week. Your wife that tells what? High up?

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Yeah, straight to the hospital. No bullshit, let's date, no bullshit,
Let's do this ship. I'm so that serious.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
What do what?

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Is given a week? Do what Charlie to race? Charlie
fun No, Charlie, you yo, Charlie, you wasn't fast when
you was in your prime. You ain't fast now that
we're forty one years old. Stop give me a week
for what we give you two, We give you two months.
It ain't gonna make a difference a week.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Why don't we just do it to the Baha Olympics,
the one on one game Olympics.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
You could do everything that too much athlete, not high level.
But that's what makes it, that makes that's what makes
the nigga tears some ship, that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Ship. I ain't what I was playing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
We are racing, bro, Let's do the race one on
one day too. We do three events.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Hong, you in the mix too.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
Now I can race, but I'm probably.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Gonna sit this one out. I'm gonna sit that one out,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
Well, anyways, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
I'm with it, bro, I'm with it. Play one on
one and then race.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
No, no, no, no, we're not doing that, yo, Kurt
just bringing in Jay Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
There's no come on, Kurt.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
I can't even believe this right now. I'm with it, though.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Why do you think you faster than him? That's what
I'm trying to figure out, Charlie, because you think because
of my hip. Charlie, you wasn't fast when we played. Now,
let's be honest. Now, you wasn't fast in I wasn't fast,
So why you think you fast? At forty one you
still think you could beat me? Don't let this wait,
fucking fool you. Don't let that ship fool you. I
don't want to go there, but okay, don't let that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
You don't let that ship you know. I'll keep it real,
not let matter for you. Jack, Jack. I don't know
if you have listened to the past, Jack five minutes,
what's up?

Speaker 6 (01:28:02):
You better tell?

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Better tell m J. Jackson.

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
You ain't see, dude, he's got great diabolical here. J
Jack used to play against me too, And did you
hear anything that's been going on?

Speaker 6 (01:28:14):
Yeah, hey, look all Ray.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Charlie race will be diabolical work. All right, I'm gonna
tell you that right now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
The hold up, let's give proper intro.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Welcome to the show, mister Justin Jackson, twenty seventeen National
champ Lottery pick. What's up, my boy? How are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
What's up? Man? I appreciate the intro, bro, you don't
gotta do that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
We gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
The ball. Hey Jackson, before we start, I need you to.
I need you to, I need you to go ahead.
Pick a team. Oh you got one on one. Charlie, Ray,
you ain't see. Come on, you gotta be got fair.

Speaker 6 (01:28:54):
You gotta be fan sun. My thing is, though it
sounds like it sounds like Ray got a little nerve
issue or something like that. So I mean, I I
don't like where you're going with this, Jack You going
with it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:29:06):
No, no, I'm saying like, we can't do it with
somebody hurt. You know what I mean? That's all right,
get right back. You're giving me the d we talk about,
we're talking about no real ailments? Is that what we're
talking about? No real ailments? Are we talking about? Like
right now, off the couch, stretched though, type No, off

(01:29:27):
the couch.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
My hip messed up too bad in my prime, in
his prime, I thought that's what that's what?

Speaker 9 (01:29:41):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
You got it? You got it?

Speaker 5 (01:29:46):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Ship out? You think so?

Speaker 7 (01:29:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
With this hip? Yeah yeah yeah, without this hip?

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
No no hip though, I'm saying, no, no hip, no hip,
take the hip out. I gotta roll, my I got
to he's rolling. I gotta roll.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
You don't even know if your hips hurt because you
ain't moved the man. Ask my wife if I don't,
you say, tell my tell Mike. Were about to pull
every muscle in our body.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
We will gotta help me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
We don't need it. I got I'm gonna have fun
on the run. Oh my god, I've been working a
little bit. Locking, I've been working a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
That was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Man, All right, j Jackson, what you got for us today?

Speaker 6 (01:30:52):
Fellas we're saying a whole change in landscape.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:30:56):
Five years ago, we had coach k Coach Williams, Jim Beaheim,
Jay Wright, Tony Bennett, Jim Calhoun, Jim laire Naga. Heck,
we had Nick Saban coaching in football and none of
those guys are coaching. And add Bruce prol to that.

(01:31:17):
Bruce Pearl I guess just step down, which it's a
little different. They just had best season in Auburn history,
I think, is what they said. I think my initial
thoughts is his son took over for him. I think
he's getting to the point where he's like, man, I've
accomplished what I need to accomplish. Let my son step

(01:31:40):
in take over. But it's crazy when you look at
five years ago, those were the coaches that are in
and none of those are still here. So you know,
I had to give a shout out to Bruce. A
bunch of guys stepping down saying, you know what, whether
it's an il transfer portal, whatever it is. Now, I
got to be a manager on top of a college coach.

(01:32:03):
It's tough to see, but heck starting to see new
guys kind of step in and kind of change the
way college basketball looks. So H just quick shout out
to Bruce Pearl man he did what he was supposed
to as a coach.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
So y'all got any Yeah, let me ask you this,
J Jackson, do you think do you think that these
old school coaches are leaving because of this these changes,
because of the portal, because of nil deals. Do you
think they're leaving because when you get money involved and
when you get kids that could just leave when they

(01:32:36):
want to and go to another school and play the
next year, that kind of changes some of the old
school philosophy. That kind of changes them being tough, being
hard on you, yelling, screaming, doing all these things that
they did to get us guys that we dealt with
that buy in, to buy in and to play hard
for them. Do you think it's like they just don't

(01:32:59):
want to deal with this shut here, just like I'm
gonna just go away and retire.

Speaker 6 (01:33:05):
Yeah, I mean I think I think for I think,
number one, you look at all those coaches, majority of
them minus j Wright, Tony Bennett, majority of them are
older anyways, So I think they're kind of reaching that
point of like retiring anyways. But like you think about
and I can't speak for CV when he was at Yukon,

(01:33:26):
but you think about coach Williams, like his life was
North Carolina basketball period, Like that's just what his life was.
So yeah, recruiting was involved in that, but like the
day to day practices, games, all that sort of stuff
was like all he cared about. So now all of
a sudden, you add like you say you had the money,

(01:33:47):
you add I mean, heck, you're having basically a brand
new team every year if you want to continue to compete,
and you add agents, you add all sorts of stuff
that's on top of it that takes you from just
being a college coach to being I mean, you're a
professional GM, a professional whatever. Basically, even though these schools

(01:34:10):
have gms, like as a coach, you're still the one
that basically seals the deal for the majority of these
players coming to your school. So I think it's a
combination of all that. I don't like, I said, I
don't know what Bruce Pearl's reasoning was other than for me,
if I'm looking at it like if my son is,
you know, ready to take over, and I've already accomplished
what I need to made as much money as I

(01:34:31):
needed to let them do it. But just looking at
coach Williams like whenever we were at school, I think
that's what it is like, it's just like you know
them being older too. It's like, man, I don't know,
I don't know if I really want to stress about this,
you know what I'm saying, So, yeah, I think it is.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
I think it's more I would put the other the others,
so many others now like that you have to deal with. Boy,
I couldn't even imagine. And I'm pretty sure Coach Calhoun's
the same way. I couldn't imagine Coach Wims, Like, what
do you mean? I got to talk to the agent,
then the handler, then the then the I can't get

(01:35:10):
in contact with the player. I can't talk to the
player at all. I got to talk to two other
people before I talked to them. Get the fuck out
of here. Coach Williams ain't going for that. You're doing.
You're doing so much more than what's needed because at
the end of the day, it's still fifteen, sixteen, seventeen

(01:35:32):
years old. You know what I'm saying. You're talking to
a kid and now you're treating them like professionals. And
at for us, we get it, we understand because that's
just we were into NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
We grew up in that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
Most of these coaches that you talk about Bruce Pearl,
coach Williams, and we know that's one of the reasons
coach Williams never went to the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
He didn't want to deal with that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
So now that it came to college for basketball, all
these coaches knew, They're like, oh, this is going to shit.
I am getting out of here right now. And like
I said, college basketball is not strictly just coaching anymore.
It's literally it's just you are the GM. You are
Doc Rivers at this point that bro also Rivers. You

(01:36:21):
are literally coaching, paying and doing everything at the same time.
It's not just coaching anymore. Ray said it right when
he was like with the Ogs, these are OG coaches
that they are successful because of how they did things
their way. So now when you change it and you
add the elements of the portal nil and the money

(01:36:43):
aspect of things, it changes things up. And those dudes
as old school, they're not gonna deal with the dudes
aging oil manager or whoever it is. It's just not
going to do it. So that's why you're starting to
see all these coaches, you know, old school coaches what
we call them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
You don't leave the game because the game has changed.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Can't imagine broken telephones like that. Many people.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Must be crazy. I mean, there's no stability.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Think about it, bro, Like these coaches fucking I mean,
these players from one to fucking fourteen to fifteen could
go next year have a completely new team.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
When we talk about Patino doesn't even recruit out of
high school anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Trans report like that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
Ship is crazy just the way I mean, at one point,
I think Calipari for Arkansas had no players. Yeah, really
everybody left when he first when he got the job,
he had no players.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Yeah, shoot, everybody did. That's is insane.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
Now you gotta go with cool and fucking find like
that ship is to just have to find a whole
new team. Yeah, Baylor, that's what happened. Just happened to Baylor. Baylor,
the whole team left. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
That is crazy. Your whole squad.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
Walk I'm out, but I'm out. They walked up out
of the walkers walk up out of that shit. Sounds crazy,
But you can't. I think one of the biggest problems
they just you can't really hold nobody accountable. You really
feel like you can't say anything to nobody or they
would be like oh man, and then they leave, and
then they leave, and like I said, it has to

(01:38:13):
become to a situation where you can transfer one time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Cool m hm one, yeah, yeah, that's it what you
got for us next man?

Speaker 6 (01:38:23):
I mean, man, I well yeah, I mean I think
just just to end it, like once again, I can
only speak from my experience with coach Williams, but like
one of the biggest things for him once again like
as an og was like you get these kids and
hopefully by the time they leave, they're like ready for
the real world outside of basketball. Right now. That's not

(01:38:45):
every coach obviously, you know, you got a bunch of
coaches that are just trying to get as much talent.
When games, you know, you go on about your business.
But for somebody like coach Williams, that was his biggest thing,
Like I want you to be prepared on the court
and off the court as a man going into society
basically to be able to do whatever you need to do.
And now like you're saying, you have one team this

(01:39:06):
year and then you've got fifteen new guys the next year,
like that, that aspect of the coaching of what they
loved is completely gone. So it's like, you know what,
I'm out of here. So but I'm with you THEO
one time, do it transfer, which I didn't realize in football.
This is a side note I didn't realize in football.
I guess there's a thirty day transfer window. Whenever you,

(01:39:28):
like a coach gets fired or something like that, there's
like a thirty day window automatically that okay, you can
which for me, I love that because that's one of
the reasons I would say you transfer because Okay, I
came here for this coach he left, I'm out. But
other than that, it's like, man, why are you Why
are you transferring? Three or four times like that, that
just you're at this point. No decision that you're making

(01:39:51):
is important in your mind. You know what I'm saying.
It's like, if I don't like it here, screw it,
I'll go somewhere else, you know what I'm saying. So
I'm with you TP. But the big conversation I want
to get y'alls tape. Okay, list of top twenty five
players in college basketball since two thousand came out. Shout
out to THEO with the the resource Shout out to

(01:40:14):
the field of sixty eight Oh my god, this is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
I know what I'm saying. Oh my god, I don't
know why you're saying. Oh my god, number one, number.

Speaker 6 (01:40:27):
Three, stop it, stop it, stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Number three would stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
In college You're you're you're okay with them, But I
have a problem number one being number one. Number one
is way.

Speaker 6 (01:40:41):
How he's the player of the decade. What are we
talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
I mean's you and seed my f I'm with three
U n C. Dude, So I'm out numbered here. The
fact that there's nobody from.

Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
Mm hmmm, not on it?

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Time out come out crazy? Agree with number one? Be
number one from a U n C.

Speaker 4 (01:41:03):
From When you look at this list and you look
at when you look at this list, you're looking at
some most of these guys did a lot in the pros.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
Walker what he did in college college can't nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Can't nobody compare to what he being in college basketball,
can't nobody to compare to I'm being honest with you,
back who yeah, if you look at his numbers and
what he's done in college basketball, No, hear you, guys.
I mean I'm just saying, like I mean you he
was there for four years.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Exactly, but I got, I got a d or Mellow
is my number one?

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Remember one year? You cannot go by records. What the
records out of all these guys. Tyler Hansburg has been
to school four years. How can you just compare that
to Carmelo's one year? But dominate?

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Dominate?

Speaker 6 (01:41:54):
He averaged twenty every single year twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Understand, but compare understand?

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
What compare Tyler's Hamburg's best year to any of those
guys up their best years?

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
That's how you got I.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
Don't think you want to do that six don't You
don't want to Why not? Because all those guys didn't
average twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Kim but didn't average twenty local for the average twenty
with a chip, not average twenty Yeah, great player, both.

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
Of them with chip withold have player of the year
two yeah? Unanimous? Yeah, not unanimous player of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Start typing home. I gotta see.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
The mean average, just gotta you gotta do their best
year compared one you can because it's four years. My
man played four years, so we can't factor in the longem.
So you just said that, You said compared Tyler Hamburg
hands beast year to.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
A mecca for player of the year. He's a big.
I don't think play of the year.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
We can't hear just was Tyler Hamburg player of the year.
I mean defensive player of the year, defensive player of
the year. I don't think so, okay, backup, please go ahead, Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:43:05):
So what's the what's the stats?

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Though?

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
We hold a hold a hold on, we didn't we
didn't name one stat?

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Hold on?

Speaker 6 (01:43:10):
What did Acca average his best year?

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
And he had fourteen?

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Let me go look at a Mecca's a mecca stats
best year his colle years ago? He went three three?
Did he average eighteen four blocks and twelve rebounds?

Speaker 6 (01:43:30):
That's cute, respect defensively, a Mecca. I mean, he might
go down as the best defensive big no college basketball
sides Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
Possibly, Yeah, his Uh, what was Tyler's year where he
wanted a chip?

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
Is out that you guys considering?

Speaker 6 (01:43:46):
I don't know, I don't know what his just his
best year.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
He's talking about a whole year in total. He's talking
about the chip as well. Number the chip chip year
is twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
One and eight.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
Half a block, okay, one steal and one assist. I
kind of got a mecha on that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
I'm well are we talking about him now? His best year,
which was his junior year, was ten rebounds assists.

Speaker 6 (01:44:12):
Not even Like I said, so, we were based and
everything on defense.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
We based everything on pick a D, based everything pick
a D. This, this is weird.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
Steph is not six.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
We definitely think why are we.

Speaker 6 (01:44:31):
Still taking I think my number, I think my number
one issue, my number one issue and respect because he
was on probably the best college team to ever in
that Florida team. But Joe Kim Noah for me, Yeah,
that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
That's a little high.

Speaker 6 (01:44:51):
It's tough because you got guys like Mike Beasley, you
got guys like Trey Young. Hey, you guy, guys Big
Gordon at Ukon't that aren't on this list? Like these
guys to me, I know, these guys to me deserved problems.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Still, nobody from five is crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:45:13):
Crazy, No Ray, No, Sean.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
Schabas brood Bay, that's and that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
That's cute.

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
You ain't only got one player, and that's cute. And
but your bass napier. If you was to hear his stats,
don't judge him as if I watched him he was bowling. Yeah,
two of them, I know, Okay, he was. He wasn't
the man on the first one.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
So y'all don't have Mellow as number one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Take Mellow's best year, Becaure's only one compared to Tyler Hansbrough.
It's better.

Speaker 6 (01:45:54):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
So how is he number one? Because he played more years?
I did make this list?

Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
Yeah, because we're talking about impact. I am defending. We're
talking about the best college player, the impact you made
in college basketball, however long you were there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
But the biggest. He never lost in camera. That's that's cool.
That's cool. That's hard. That's hard. Never lost, but he's
never that's true. Never lost camera. That's cute. That's cool.
I never lost the Yukon. He got three players up there.

(01:46:37):
That's cute. Yeah, yeah, never never never. So the year
we did play, who won the championship that year? The
year you guys beat us?

Speaker 4 (01:46:51):
Okay, hold On, I didn't play hold played in the
champion hold played on every year, So I won a championship.
To oufter, I beat you, I beat you in your
building the year we want come on, Mike, take your
mic out. That was it's okay, you know, you know
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
We know we played a long time ago. That was
on me. I played, I was a focal point.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
And had you in prison, locked him up. Calhoun had
a rule. You get two fouls in the first half,
you're done. He put you in the car seat, and
I was done. I got to early joints and it
was got cover, got trouble.

Speaker 6 (01:47:38):
Who got your trip?

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Probably switched out on me. He probly switched. He switched.

Speaker 4 (01:47:47):
There three U n C players on this fucking you
know we don't attack you understand me. So this is
supposed to happen. We do not attack you. We do
not attack you. You know that. We all have to
say mccolade, McDonald's all Americans, all of us. True, that's
your champions, that's all of us.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
True. What are we talking about? That's true? Who's the truth?
Who got hiring? Rookie ranking? He's well, he was drafted fifth, right,
he was finished. I was seven. What was the rookie ranking?
I was better?

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
He was.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
We already established that that he averaged You know what
I'm saying, like I was better rookie of the year
who was second? That's a fact. He didn't enough minutes.
He had more minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
We compared this. He played twenty nine, he played thirty.
It's apple staff who played thirty? You played and then
I played thirty?

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
Yes, you did. Never my career played thirty minutes. You
did your rookie year. What you did? You never in
my career play thirty minute?

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
You played twenty nine, bro and he played thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
It's not thirty, he played thirty. I never heard thirty.
Thirty is crazy? Hey is Doug McDermott a little low
for y'all on that? No, he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:48:59):
He's he's right where he.

Speaker 4 (01:49:01):
Tyler Hansburg number one. That's so, Tyler Hansburg is the
best college player we've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
Are you fucking five years?

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
Yes, that's what That's what they said.

Speaker 6 (01:49:09):
That's twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
It's it's not just the best player, it's a cumulative
four years. And because he wasn't good enough to go
to the NBA, so he was there for four years.
But that's what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:49:21):
But hold on, hold on, see hey see CEV, you
coming at us now as you would see guys, hold on, hold.

Speaker 4 (01:49:32):
Make that why why he came back to when he
came back because they lost in their final four. They
went to the final four twice, so Carolina. Yeah, they
were unstoppablem on nine right, Yeah, they beat.

Speaker 6 (01:49:46):
The whooped everybody. So CV does does n b A
making it to does making it to the NBA have
anything to do with the what you did in college?

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
No, no, no, he got none to do.

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
What I'm saying is he wasn't good enough to be uh,
most of these guys a D one year, Carmelo one year.
He wasn't good enough because if he was good enough,
he would have been there for four years. That's why
he's there for four years because he's not good enough
for the n b A.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
We ain't talking about. This is the time to be honest,
the longer you're in college, it is for you. Mike
Beezley should be on this list, Mike, there's a lot
of people that should be on this list. But no,
I didn't say that. But I'm saying. What I'm saying
is it should be a lot of people on this list,

(01:50:34):
but they didn't. I'm gonna say this exactly. Shot Jamiir
Nelson his season.

Speaker 6 (01:50:38):
At Saint Jonahs junior year, Cy crazy, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
It was nice, Why are you doing that?

Speaker 6 (01:50:47):
Why are you doing that for?

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
They didn't have didn't have a crazy season. Yeah, we
can't get flowers at Jamiir Nelson. Yes, let's put the
graphic backup.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
Kurt who else?

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
Who else? Fire shouldn't be on this list?

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
Hey? If that?

Speaker 6 (01:51:07):
If that's the case. According to CV, Jalen Brushes shouldn't
be number two because he wasn't getting up to go
to the league and stay for four years?

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
No, no, how many years he played?

Speaker 6 (01:51:15):
Four?

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
J JB He do four jacks or three? What do
you do? I'll double check.

Speaker 6 (01:51:20):
I'll let Hongo look it up. I let Hongo look
it up.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
I feel like he did three. I feel like he
did four for some reason. He did three? He did three?
And he won what two championships? Two chips, two chips respected?
I mean numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
His best year his junior was nineteen four assists and
three rebounds respected. So I don't have to so so
we basing off his his I think, I think his
accumulation of everything, basing off his championships.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't like that. That's
my first opinion. I'm not basing off because if it's basic,
but his numbers was it?

Speaker 4 (01:51:55):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Why is Kevin R.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Mellow?

Speaker 3 (01:52:00):
That's my problem I just.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
Want Jay Williams. Why is he number fucking eight?

Speaker 6 (01:52:05):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
Williams, there's a fucking problem, dog, But I get it.
You ain't see and Duke.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
I get it. What you guys, We're not gonna put
the devil? What you mean? J Will Jay will was
one of the big reasons why.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Should not be six as well? Step out of this building.
He should not be six. He didn't win and he
had good numbers. But the Warriors huh, Mike be is
better than Him's better than him?

Speaker 3 (01:52:33):
His JJ Redier is better than Steff.

Speaker 6 (01:52:36):
Hold on, what about are we are?

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
We am? I?

Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
Maybe I was biased?

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Are we just?

Speaker 6 (01:52:41):
Was Adam Morrison not a problem college? Or my tripping?

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
You know he's right there. J Jackson was like thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
But is he more some of them than Kemba Walker
or Jay Williams.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
Yes, I was like thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
I'm asking the question in college we are? We're not
just talking about college talking about that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
Adam Mooreson is cold as fun, But I'm just asking
the question. Take his best year he average was? Look
at his best year, he averaged like thirty one years
twenty eight one year?

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
You are god if you average?

Speaker 6 (01:53:16):
Come on, bro, he top five, top five?

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
Come on, so who are kicking out top five Zach D? Yeah, okay, idiots,
get him the funk out of it. Number exactly, It
is no number twenty.

Speaker 6 (01:53:35):
One, hey, but honestly, respectfully though, like who's respectfully you
gotta you got to kick out in my opinion, you
got to kick out a D the top five and
for college and myage.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
Like fifteen and eleven and five four blocks.

Speaker 6 (01:53:52):
Don't get me wrong. He was an issue, an issue,
but we're talking about twenty eight a game in college,
twenty eight a game, and.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
I'm gonna be honest. J. J. Riddick was a motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
He was an issue, but I didn't want to bring
up due it was twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Can we do this was a problem to that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
Can you give me your top five, your personal talk?

Speaker 6 (01:54:14):
My top five? Yeah, okay, I'm gonna keep I'm gonna
keep t hands there. I'm gonna keep t hands there.
I'm gonna keep the first. I'm gonna my first two.
Looking through his mind, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
I like, you know, Charlie, just cry out.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Continue you he has one Continue.

Speaker 6 (01:54:42):
All right, man. I like talking to you. I like
talking to the other three more. Anyways, I'll have the
first two. First two T hands and JB. In my opinion,
I gotta put oh, you're gonna put us on the spot.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
Bro put his glasses of Kurt, you know, I put
the mic back.

Speaker 6 (01:55:04):
Give me, uh, give me Adam Morrison at three, J J. Reddick,
and then give me Mellow at five.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
Okay, all right, so we got he got hands J B,
Adam Morrison, JJ Reddick, than Mellow.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
I'm gonna go NOWT he was going next. I'm gonna
go T hands, Oh go T hands. Then I'm gonna
go uh JB. Mellow, Adam Morrison kdol no, no, no, yeah,

(01:55:52):
Adam wore yeah, Adam Morrison kd yep.

Speaker 6 (01:55:56):
It is tough when you're talking about top five.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
It is tough. Father is tough.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:56:01):
You up?

Speaker 4 (01:56:02):
Because I had to bump out Anthony, did I say Adie?
I said Katie, Katie.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
Not fine for me. And I'm not even picking. This
ain't no order. No, let's do order. Save Charlie for
the last I'm not doing.

Speaker 6 (01:56:18):
I can't wait to hear I can't wait to hear Charlie's.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
I'm gonna go mellow. I'm gonna go Jay Will mm hmm.
I'm gonna go kat I'm gonna Adam Morrison, and I'm
gonna go what was that for? That's for? Yeah, tens,

(01:56:44):
all right, I'll go. I'll go next.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
I like I like raise list.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
I'm gonna go mellow, j Will, Katie, Adam Morrison, JJ Reddick.
I'm not taking winning to account. I'm talking to just
talk twenty five college player. Actually know I'm taking out
JJ and I'm putting in Michael Beasley because this season
was crazy c V Damn.

Speaker 6 (01:57:09):
I can respect that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
I'm not look, you gotta count.

Speaker 4 (01:57:14):
I'm replacing JB with JJ Reddick in my opinion, not
And I'm not doing the order definitely because because like
Jalen Bruston had a great career. But I can't I
can't say the first championship.

Speaker 6 (01:57:31):
Well and then his second team is it was loaded?

Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
Yeah, the first team was the first team was stacked
with arch in all them, So I can't say that
was just him.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
So I put I put, I put J. J Reddick
over there.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
I'd also say to you guys, like he was really good,
but was he dominant? Like some of these players are
mentioning like JJ Reddick was insane.

Speaker 6 (01:57:51):
Yeah, JJ redg twentycell over here, just changing up the rules.
You're gonna put me on a give me your top
five ranked one through five. Give me j Will instead
of JB. I'll do j Will instead of JB.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
I thank you, all right, Charlie.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
You guys changed the order.

Speaker 3 (01:58:09):
You know, I put an order.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
I ranked my You don't go to so I'm not
gonna rank it. Give you your five five j Will
have one? Hell of it? Will okay?

Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
Uh, Carmelo okay, k D okay, Adam Morrison, MCA Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
You gotta have Mike. How come you know none of
y'all have Mike Beasley? If you have KD not but
we could. But we're talking about just our list.

Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
If he was on, what was going? What was the
Wade's career?

Speaker 5 (01:58:45):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
It was crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
It was great crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
I don't remember he's on the list.

Speaker 4 (01:58:51):
He was. But the thing is, though I didn't hear
nothing about the Wade until the tournament. Yeah, so I
don't know what he did do in season. But when
that tournament though one of the best tournament runs we've
ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
We're talking about sheer dominance is like as a player
where does Jimmer rank?

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
I was just about to say Jimmer's past in college.

Speaker 6 (01:59:13):
Let me look at gimm everybody twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
If we talk in real college bucket, he might have
ever been. He might be top ten already. He might
have about thirty twenty nine. Told you who everage twenty nine?

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
Jim crazy twenty nine and might.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
Might take you out. I might got to take out
somebody to you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:35):
I might take Adam Morrison for Jim or to be honest, no,
he averaged twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
I'm not taking him out of either Adam's fast.

Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
I don't know, guys. This is a tough list.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
This is a tough already for my bro. You guys,
you guys are not putting in twenty six twelve Michael
Bess twenty six and twelve, six and twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:59:54):
Yeah, bro, that's what I'm trying to say. He is
not to talk and that was in a big toil.

Speaker 6 (01:59:59):
Guys, I'm just saying Trey Young average twenty seven and nine.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
Oh my goodness, he's not on the list.

Speaker 6 (02:00:06):
Yeah, he's not on the list at all.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
It's a tough one. It's a tough one on so
we're gonna put Tyler Hansburg. He's still going back to Tylor.

Speaker 6 (02:00:16):
Okay, sevv. So so we are we talking if if
we're taking if we're taking the best season, then I'm
with If we're talking about best season, best season, then
I'm with you. If we're talking about overall college career.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Okay, I got you. That was the CONFU.

Speaker 6 (02:00:34):
Then t Hands has to be in the conversation. He
has to be number period, number one. He has four
years averaging twenty or more.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
Ever the best ever?

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
Can I ask you question he's broke records because.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
He's a little college not just in school college.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
Can I ask you three a question? Who was the
main catalyst of that? Because I remember ty Lawson as
the main catalyst. I remember just pushing the ball and
getting everybody involved.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
That's what I remember.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
How did this thing?

Speaker 4 (02:01:04):
But he was throwing that ball just like you can
say that with me. I pushed the ball, But guess
who I was throwing.

Speaker 2 (02:01:12):
That ball to.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
I just remember how.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
Around steals.

Speaker 1 (02:01:17):
I mean, how I used to get how the how
disruptive he was on the defensive. And that's what I
remember from that two thousand.

Speaker 4 (02:01:23):
And I understand that I'm gonna tell you this, right
he was an issue. That man has the most points.
I get it, But but do you know about Carol
out of history? I do, Michael Jordan, Vince Carter. You
don't want to keep naming Jared Stackhouse, Wallace, Theo Pinson,
Justin Jackson Spark.

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
You're talking about this guy, he was a problem. He
was talking about problem. Give that was almost twenty I
hear you.

Speaker 6 (02:01:58):
But I stick around toxic, so toxic. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
Those guys stick around for four years. I don't know
if he's an all time leader. You're right that that
that's the that's the right, right. So when you guys
say that stuff is like, yes, he stuck around.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
For four how many points you have the first three years?

Speaker 1 (02:02:15):
It ain't like he let mean no, he definitely did
some stuff in his first three years. I remember Tyler
Hands were doing stuff. I'm just saying, when you guys
say he's all time leader, like if every player played
four years, we could have a different conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
There you go, that's all I'm saying. Four years. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no played four years.

Speaker 4 (02:02:38):
I want I still want to broke no records, still
want to broke the record that he did you didn't
bring no record playing because the way we played, we
didn't have report guards that average no crazy, no crazy
points like that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
That's a fact we didn't. Let's just be real.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
How many points do you score in college? Probably what
eight hundred? How much points you score in college? If
you average twenty points a game? Probably about I have
no idea probable hundred depends on six What do you
guys think?

Speaker 6 (02:03:05):
I think I averaged eighteen my junior year and it
was seven hundred something.

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
Yeah, Antoine's taking over him he plays a fourth year. Yeah, yeah,
one is taking over him if he plays a four
year fourth year. That's all I'm saying. Tine Jamis he
averaged he had almost two thousand.

Speaker 4 (02:03:20):
He's one of those players who has his jersey retired,
his number retirement to damn.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
He not even on this list. Yeah in the blue.

Speaker 3 (02:03:28):
But I'm no, he's not on the list because he's too.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
Twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
But I'm just saying, Antoine probably takes that record if
he plays four years. So that that's my only thing
I'm saying. Obviously he's hypothetical, but respected.

Speaker 4 (02:03:43):
Yeah cool, I guess it might have took the record
played this fourth year, that's true.

Speaker 3 (02:03:49):
How many points is J jacks How many points you got?

Speaker 6 (02:03:50):
He not not close to twenty eight hundred. I'd say
that fifte hundred. J Jackson not close to hundred Price
Price some something like that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:00):
That's how points I had in high school. That was
my I still got the record South Carolina. How many points?

Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
Like twenty It was like two thousand and eight eight
eight six.

Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
Yeah, So I got a question for you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
If rjbt Tyler's record, you guys feel different about it
because he played five years. If r J will if
RJ beat his records because he played five years, Like
that's that's the same argument Charlie and I are coming to.

Speaker 2 (02:04:24):
But four years is the norm. Yes, but he's right.
We're not saying about college player got he's.

Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
The best player from North Carolina. He has the most
points because he played longer. If he did that with
three years, If he was I'd be interested to see
who has a higher average for three years.

Speaker 4 (02:04:41):
A lot of players played, But there's a difference between
playing and dominating. He dominated every single year Tyler. He
dominated as a freshman, sophomore, junior.

Speaker 3 (02:04:52):
I would say he's very impactful as a freshman.

Speaker 2 (02:04:54):
Though dominated. You don't get played the year. If you
don't dominate, you got played a year. Four years. I
think he got played maybe too. Got Freshman of the Year.

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
He got Freshman the year.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
He never got a Player of the year.

Speaker 3 (02:05:04):
Talk about the freshman he got.

Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
How many play of the years that he have?

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
He got one, he got two thousand and eight he got.

Speaker 4 (02:05:11):
So that means somebody else was dominating more than him
that year got it. Let's put him number one.

Speaker 6 (02:05:17):
It was a he was. He was a three time
first team All America.

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
Two thousand and nine Player of the Year. Blake Griffin
was a two thousand and nine Player of the Year.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
He was on the list.

Speaker 3 (02:05:26):
But listen, anyways, Tyler had a great career. We can
say that he had a great.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
Great career college. We got specific, we got any other
things we want to say before we signed.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
Out a.

Speaker 4 (02:05:39):
Man.

Speaker 6 (02:05:40):
I mean, it's crazy as a freshman. As a freshman,
as a freshman.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
Carolina, I know you did. You didn't want to want to.

Speaker 3 (02:05:51):
I don't think he said you want to go to Carolina.

Speaker 6 (02:05:53):
Ceev I ain't gonna lie. You would have looked out,
you would have looked at in that Carolina Blue, bro,
you would.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Looked at I picked the right blue.

Speaker 4 (02:06:00):
You the average you didn't. You would averaged a lot
of points too, because I got that rock championship, got
that ruck to you. I got that ruck to you championship.
I got that rock to you. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
All yea, anybody got anything else? Before we signed on Jackson.

Speaker 2 (02:06:14):
To tune into the w NBA by the goat playing
the night.

Speaker 3 (02:06:18):
Who's your goal? Come on, he who's your goal?

Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
Yeah? Oh w that's a good question.

Speaker 6 (02:06:25):
And who give it?

Speaker 2 (02:06:27):
Give it?

Speaker 6 (02:06:28):
Give it a few years? And I think Asia stamps
it today today, give it today. I mean it's tough.
Diana Tarsi played for twenty three years, like and she
was really good, Like so.

Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
Are you.

Speaker 6 (02:06:46):
That's what I'm saying, give it. I'm saying give it
a few years. And Asia, I mean when when I
say stamping, I mean and there's no there's no argument.
But we also for if that, if we're playing hypotheticals,
if Maya played for longer than may in my opinion,
it's gonna be hard to catch her.

Speaker 3 (02:07:02):
So here's jack Agent played.

Speaker 6 (02:07:06):
Eight, Maya played eight, and Asians played eight. Well, Asius
numbers are probably better. Huh is our age? Is numbers better?

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
I would say probably, yeah, I don't look at numbers.

Speaker 2 (02:07:19):
Are your numbers? Got your numbers got? That is correct?

Speaker 1 (02:07:23):
But but Maya's four for eight and championships and the
best Asia could be is three for eight.

Speaker 6 (02:07:29):
See, but that that starts the whole conversation. That starts
the whole conversation Russell. That means he got to be
the goat r P. Like right now currently, if I
had to pick up best women's basketball player of all time,
I gotta go with Diana. To me personally, I'm with you.

(02:07:50):
I can't remember. I appreciate y'all though.

Speaker 3 (02:07:55):
I will see y'all on Monday.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
J Jax, we appreciate, appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (02:08:02):
J JA got Natty Champs in the in the we
appreciate the love.

Speaker 2 (02:08:06):
We'll be a whole lot of tar heels in this building,
a whole lot of tar whole lot of tar heels.
I get it, hey, bro, but there the star of
the fucking show for all the people who

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