LeBron James IS BACK, Is Draymond Green still ELITE? Anthony Davis will be traded 🤯 & more

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
One, Yo, what's up, y'all? We are back on the bah.
We got Raymond Felton in the building, Yo, Race feeling
a little better today.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's a lot of good news today, showing up.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
No matter what. And obviously we got theo Pinson in
the building.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good with you was good? What's good?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
And you already know who we're rocking with. We're rocking
with Oasis. Make sure y'all get some but yo, let's
get some shout outs. Hams. We see you star always
in the chat talking ship. I appreciate that, mister Kras
what's up?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I was a little upset by by yesterday. You know,
obviously you guys saw when I fired back at Rose,
he didn't say anything anymore. So I'm like, Yo, it's
all good. You can clap back, you can talk to
your ship back, like.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Come on, bro, we all family, man, Yeah, we all.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
To the Baja family, y'all. Brandon, appreciate you tapping and
we see you here a lot more often, so thank
you for tuning in.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I want to address some first, want to get to
the Baja as we do here first and foremost, I
just want to say I appreciate everybody in the chat.
I've been thinking about this all day since yesterday till now.
It's been weighing heavy on me, and I just want

(01:18):
to say y'all too, rayhung. I mean, everybody who's in
my circle right now. Y'all know who y'all are. Y'all
don't know how much y'all mean to me. I appreciate
y'all from the bottom of my heart. It's been a
long year for your boy. It's been a long year.
And I sit up here and.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I get it off your chest, young fellow. Get it off.
It's all right, get it off your chest. This brings
me joy every day because just great fellowship around good people, and.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
I sit here and just you just don't take these
things for granted. And we always sit here, and as athletes,
everybody looks at us as superheroes, like we don't have
enough fucking feelings, and it bothers the shit out of me.

(02:32):
And this year has taught me just having really good
people around you, it's all that matters. It's all that matters.
And I hate that I had to start like this,
but I couldn't do the show without making sure everybody
knows it's okay not to be okay sometimes.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I love y'all to death because it's true, genuine people
that I got around me, and I'm not here to
do it for sympathy or any of that shit. It's
just more because I know there's somebody out there that
probably going through the same shit and it's okay. Man.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
We're so taught to bottle this shit up and be
okay because you got money, you got a platform, you're
on TV, you get all this shit. But it's not
like we still got shit we got to deal with
on an everyday basis. So I just want to say
I appreciate everybody in the chat who rock with us.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I appreciate my girl, I appreciate my mom, my, sister, everybody,
because this is a shit that really matters just having
good people around you. And I enjoy this every single day,
and I just want everybody to understand like it's okay
enough to be okay sometimes, and there's always The Lord

(04:08):
has a plan for everybody. He put me here for
a reason to be here with everybody that's in this room,
to add them to all these guys that's in the
back helping us. It's been absolutely amazing. So I just
woke up today just like I got I gotta speak.
I gotta speak about this because at the end of
the day, I'm not a fake person. I don't want

(04:29):
to be a fake person. And sitting here trying to
add like everything's cool, sometimes it's not the way to go.
So and I just want to speak out to everybody
some reason. Lords like you got the platform speak about it,
you know, So I wanted to do that, show my
appreciation to everybody and of y'all and just get that
out of my chest. And now we can start with

(04:50):
the sentimental shit and get to the bay. Nah a
little bro and listen, man, listen, little bro, we got you.
I got you. You know what I'm saying, Like goes
all the way back to the Carolina days. Man, you
family even more so now we're here every day with
each other, you know. Just you know, I'm a phone
call away life. What y'all don't understand?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Man, Like like he said, like, y'all see us play basketball, y'all,
see the lifestyle, y'all see all these stuff. And don't
get us wrong, that shit is good. It's great. God
has blessed us, you know. But we're still human beings.
We still have everyday life, the life, things that happen,
things y'all deal with on a regular basis. Trust me,
we deal with it as well. We got kids, we

(05:35):
have families, We have real life problems just like anybody else.
Just because a person got money or a person have
a certain lifestyle, that doesn't mean it doesn't come with problems.
Sometimes it come with more problems. And for THEO to
come out here on this show, on this platform and
really open up like that, that's that. That shows That
shows a lot, that shows a real man. Some people

(05:56):
hide behind the scenes and don't want to speak on it,
and they sit in a corner and they don't come
out of it. The way you come out of things
is when you speak about it, when you come out
about it and you acknowledge it. I've been there before.
I've been in a dark place. I've been fucked up,
and the only way to get out of it you
have to face it. You have to hit it head on,

(06:17):
you have to talk about it. You have to be
have good people in your corner. And this right here,
I wake up every day with pride like this is
my job because I enjoyed this. I enjoyed this platform.
I enjoy y'all guys in the chat. Who's supporting us?
This gives me a new meaning from not playing basketball.
This is everything. I love this. I love these guys.

(06:38):
It's my family now. Like y'all just don't understand man,
for THEO to do that is you know that touched
me and being the old guy on the set, being
the big bro. You know what I'm saying. Thing, I
got you, Bro. You know whatever you need, love, Bro,
I got you. Man. Don't worry about you any You

(07:00):
ain't in nothing at this point of your life alone.
I know you got your family and stuff, but you
got me too. Bro.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I'm good. Just let
everybody know I'm good. I just felt like that's the
next step for me. Just you gotta. I just felt
like it was needed. Some Lord spoke to me today
just like just do it. And you did it. Now
we can move forward. We could talk about everything we
want to talk about. We got a great show for
y'all today. A lot of shit going on in the

(07:26):
league at a lot of ship. Let's get to it chat.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Man, appreciate everybody were running with you till you die.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
So that's what's up, Macho. Sorry to hear about your mom, Bro,
I hope everything goes well man with your mom.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Hopefully pray shout out to Macho.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Let's I guess we're gonna start with We got some
heel love and ready in the chat. So let's start
with Kayler Wilson. Let's play the dunk. This ship was nasty.
Hey get dunk dunk. Oh that boy five easy man, Listen,
I be high in that. I'm not gonna lie when
people say player comparisons and this may be a stretch.

(08:03):
Isn't testing your stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
You're here to hit on. I like him his mentality.
He can go on one through five. This kid is
just electric. He rebounds, plays with a passion. He can shoot,
he can handle the rock, he rebounds. I ain't seen
nothing he can't do, you know. Obviously, you know he
can polish everything and get better as time go on.
But I'm not just saying that because he'll tar Hill. Listen,

(08:30):
this kid can go as high as anybody else as
he want to go. I'm just being honest. He can
go as high as anybody else. Obviously. You know. Aj
you know is a great prospect, and he probably going
to be the person that goes number one, you know,
with the hype and stuff and all that. And AJ
is a great player, Cayler Wilson is a damn hell
of a player. His kid can really who He's top three,

(08:51):
I don't care, fuck top five, he's top three, he's
top three.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I might be rolling with you because this is the
thing about Caleb. This so intriguing where AJ and Darren
Peterson and those guys are there. They're pros, you know
they are. We know Tayler Wilson's a pro, but he's
still raw in a sense, you know what I'm saying,
Like he has a he has so much potential that

(09:14):
he can tap into and the biggest thing with that
he had, he's so good now. His mentality is what
separates him. His mentality of just like I don't really
give a fuck I'm at anybody in front of me,
you know what I'm saying. It's like I don't care
who's in front of me. I need that. I gotta

(09:35):
see it, you gotta show me. And it's on a
night tonight basis to embrace, to embrace a school like
North Carolina head on and say I'm about to take
over this ship. Like he's went in front of the
whole North Carolina community, I mean not even community nation
and said, we about to put North Carolina back on

(09:56):
the fucking map, and we got to we about to
put belt To ask to everybody as a freshman, an
eighteen year old, to come out here.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
And say and do it playing like that every night,
that's different.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
That's a whole different that's a whole different caliber type
of player than me. To have that mindset like me,
I'm not going out there saying that shit as a freshman.
Hell know, but you like, I have every belief in
my body I was gonna win the national championship at
some point and did flex. But at the same time,

(10:27):
this dude has a This dude is he's special listen,
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
And Marvin, yeah, he really knew that. What that was
Marvin's mantality when he can't really do marvin mantality came
in like I'm coming here to win the championship, period,
like whatever y'all need me to do, Run through this wall,
dive on the floor for loose balls, like Marvin had
that type of mentality, like that's that's crazy. No I
love the kid man. I can't wait. I can't wait

(10:52):
to go see it in person. We definitely going to
the SMU game together when they play here, got you here,
gotta be there. We in the building to be there.
How long are you in the building with us?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'm there, I'm there. I would say this when I
watched him play against AJ in the finals at uybl
It's like he's he's different, different. Yeah, I just remember
that was big for me. Just he was He's tough,
he was tough, tough, Shelton Caleb. Let's get to uh well,
let's address some things first. So some of our chat
comments said that resume yesterday, Do you have anything to

(11:23):
say about it? The fifty points is part of the resume?
You got anything to say?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
I mean, like I said you, it's a great debate,
it's a great banter between everybody, and it's all purposal preference.
And the fifty points is fifty points. If you're saying
that's part of his resume, he still put these are
the points he's putting up for a month. Like, I get,
I get what you're saying, but okay, so is it

(11:50):
a resume of people having a guard behind him. They
decided to guard the man behind him because they couldn't
stay in front of him. I've never seen that before.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's what people argue. So you can't take away Steph's gravity,
But then say people have the guard behind them. Those
are two same things.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well put out this, bro, see that valid point. When
we put up these these these images and we talk about,
you know, ranking these guys. Let's be honest. Every guy
we talk about that we put up there could be
one could be number one. James could be number one,
a I could be number one, Steph could be number one,
Kyrie could be number one. Let's be honest. But from

(12:24):
my perspective, I gave my list based on who I
had to guard. I didn't have to guard James a lot.
I did sometimes, but I didn't have to guard him
a lot. But the other three guys. When I played
against Ai before he left the league, I had to
guard him. He was he was a point guard. Steph
I had to guard him. Kyrie I had to guard him.
So I'm basing off who I had to guard. That's

(12:47):
what I'm That's what I based mine off of.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
That's more valid. I'm talking about what I see you
were in the flash one VW one on an island.
So I get where you're coming from, Like, ain't there's
no discredit in your opinion just because.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Base it off ship. I had to lace it up
and I had I had a guard ship, you know,
based in that day, so we wouldn't know. Knock to
James because James. Listen, James, James gonna go down to
one of the best two guards they ever played this game.
You know what I'm saying, He's gonna go down as
one of the best James Harden was it is. I
ain't gonna say it was because he's still out here
giving people buckets today. As far as.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Because it's MJ close, he's right there.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
As far as like, what are you saying over all time?
All time? Now? The way has done too much? Like
when we talk about all time resume matters.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
He got three championships for sure. The Waite resume is
problem with that dress is crazy. But I do actually
want to go go to college quickly. Did you guys
watch Cam playing all yesterday?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Cam who boozing?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
He struggled against the bigger, bigger players. You know, when
they talk about the transition to the next level, Kansas
had had some bigs that matched up with him. He struggled.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
He's just a he's a bruiser, but he's like a
six nine bruis.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I think he's fourteen for thirty five ft in the
paint and that's not good numbers in college.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm gonna be honest with you. He's he's really good,
but his is gonna be a fit. Yeah, He's gonna
have to go to where it fits him. Like to
be honest with you, I mean, his dad was a
great player. I ain't taking nothing for Colins Boozer, great player,
but he was a motherfucker in Utah. Yeah, anywhere else

(14:30):
he went decent, he was he was, he was okay
in Utah. He was different, That's what I'm saying. His levels.
So I think his son would be the same way.
He had to go somewhere where he's in a system
and it fits his type of game. Yeah, But if
he goes somewhere where he got to try to match
up with these athletic big men, struggle a struggle. I

(14:53):
think you struggle.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
He Cam Boser can play and you know it ain't
old fan, but's about it. But he's not a plug
and play type of guy you can't just put him.
You can't put him with any team. And he's going
to Succee, Caleb Wilson, det Aj debansa uh fucking Darren Peterson.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
They can play whatever team you want to put.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Him all but I feel Luka is gonna have to
find the right situation too.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
He gotta find to write because he's electrics with the ball.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, he has to have the ball.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
He gotta have the ball in his hand for to
see his full potential, how special he is.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
He need to have the ball.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Don't get the top three pick. Can you imagine him
with Denham Igor, the guy from b YU. That's gonna
be all right backcourt to see him here. And Dallas, No, no,
Dallas is gonna get a top three pick. We're gonna
talk about it him. We'll talk about it after agent.
I think, I think if you could you imagine you Rollo,
Cooper and Caleb together, that would be elite defensively. Yeah,

(15:52):
that'd be elite defensively. But let's get to it.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
So I gotta get some guards.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Though you do listen, I don't think point when the
MAVs get the top picks in the back to back drafts.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
That would be crazy, that would be well.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
So yeah, listen, let's get to it. Let's talk about
just period. We're gonna talk a lot about the Lakers.
We gotta talk about Luca, we gotta talk about their defense,
what they look like. But let's talk about Lebron's debut
this season. He had eleven and twelve. You want to
run the clips at him. It was cool eleven and twelve.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
What did you think of the early chemistry you.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Have? We have to get yeah, get footage clips, cool
double double. You know, he kind of looked like magic
out there with some of his passing. People were saying
online he was doing this thing. Would you guys think
of his debut?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
I think it was a great uh strategic playing by
the Lakers by Bron, just to be his little be
his tune up game. Get back in there, get a flow.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
He looked. Look, you gotta get a man as flowers.
It was year twenty.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Three, most years ever played by an NBA player.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
What the hell? Bro like the fact ray right, and
this ain't no shot you sitting here. This man is
playing an NBA season the same age. It's crazy, No
way in here I could be doing that right now.
I don't care if I was in shape. And the
thing is the mouse. People don't even understand the mouths

(17:22):
he has put on his body.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I mean, listen, he was ahead of his time, bro.
He was spending a million dollars in two thousand and six,
thousand and seven on his body. He was doing all
that stuff like at a young age.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Because he could. Yeah, so saying he could. But I'm
just saying that. But still though, I mean, regardless of
what he did, he's still making history every time he
stepped on the court. Every time he made history with points,
he made history almost every time. He's breaking records every year.

(17:52):
Now he broke another record most ever, most year's ever played. Yeah,
and he could keep going if you want to. So, like,
you know, you got to give you out to Lebron man.
I'm happy to see him back on the court. I
know a lot of people give us a little you know,
us saying, well, I didn't really say this about him
being being traded. It's not about him being traded because

(18:14):
I love Lebron. You know, he's a friend and I
think he can help somebody. But at some point, Lebron
James is going to retire. So at some point you
gotta hand those keys over to Luca to ar, to
those guys to take over. And it may not be
this year because he looks good. He's still good play,

(18:35):
he's still you know, demands, you know, he's we talk
about gravity. Lebron James is a gravity guy. You know,
he steps on the court, he's a gravity guy. So
he can help anybody. He's one of those guys that
can go to any team in the NBA, I don't care.
Where is that, And he can help their franchise, he
can help their team. I'm interested to see what it

(18:57):
looks like, honestly, when they play Denver or they play Okay, see,
Like I'm interesting to see what they look like together
now that he's back, because playing Utah, so it's a
whole lot different. I'm gonna be honest with Utah is good.
Don't get me wrong. They decent, but they are not
Okay see, they're not. Can we can we all can

(19:18):
we can we all be real about this? Like Lebron
said yesterday, I love that he's like, I don't know
why people saying it. I can Yeah, Clip, what did.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
You think of the early chemistry you saw with Jake,
you found them on wing three and obviously late in
the game with DeAndre, and it seemed like you guys
had some early connections.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yeah, I said, it was yesterday's practice, post practice. I
can stay in with anybody. I don't you understand why
that was even a question as strong with these.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
People out there right away, with anybody. So, you know,
just watching watching the.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Guys at first fourteen games that I missed the first fourteen,
just watching them and seeing just I was just putting
myself in position, you know, while I was watching the
games of how I can help the team and how
I can be successful to help those guys. And you know,
I still, you know, able to gain a lot of
eyes when I'm driving the ball or have the ball,
you know.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Things of that nature.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
And I have a big fella down there, big five
down there, and I got gave right here obviously. And Jake,
you know, our second our second team, we went out
there and kind of pushed the lead up.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
He took seven shots. I saw Lebron James ask, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I don't need Bron to fit in.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
I saw some Gilbert Arena said yesterday, and I agree
with it.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Bron is a guy. If you're playing, if Bron is playing, Brian,
you're the guy. Period.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Your luckacy has been that you've been at your whole career,
you've been somebody who So you're telling me you're willing
to be the third best player on your team when
you stopped, You're not. Because it looks good when you win.
When you beat the Utah Jazz, that's fine. You beat
the Utah Jazz, that's a You think you y'all can

(21:19):
play like y'all did yesterday and beat Okay, see you
think you can beat them. I'm gonna be honest. Can
you beat Portland?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Look good? Phoenix will look good? Now?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
All that told me yesterday? This, this is Claire cut
this is Luca team for show. They look bad defensively.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
They look terrible defensive. But let me ask you guys this,
We've seen guys like VC Mellow to adjust to the role.
You don't think Lebron has to justice James.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Just Lebron James is up there in the Gold Conversation. No,
those guys are not. What's not the guys you just name,
It's not in the Gold Conversation. Lebron James would never
take a back seat to anybody, even if he averaged
fifteen and is he an All Star? Votes votes off

(22:17):
the strength, off the strength, he's All Star no matter what.
I don't need Bron to be that.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
This is This is not Bron Bro. He can be
Braun with somebody else. It's his first game back. I
think he's just working his way in.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
But as the season goes on, Lebron James is not
taking fucking seven shots. My guy, I'm not taking seven shots.
I'm telling you this right now.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
If Bron gets let's say, let's say let's say somebody
come on, Star.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
You know that man ain't gonna be no six man.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Let's say Bron got traded back to Cleveland from Mobley.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I'm taking Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
No, they're not moving Mobley, though.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
You're gonna have to move a young piece.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Give me Jared Allen and DeAndre Hunter.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
You would be Mobley.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
I'm not you.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I would move Mobley. You got eight, So why would
you take? Would you take?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
You can't move Mobley. You gotta do a three teams.
You can't move Mobley. Why he's one of your cornerstones.
He's a stretch for he's elite defensively.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
You believe in Cleveland winning?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
No, No, I think you need to get think Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Could come out of the East.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
You need to move.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
You need Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
If you put this Lebron one of the two years.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Who cares? That's what they need. They need to win, Bro,
they trying to win. They're not gonna win with this team.
You saying you don't believe in them? Do you believe it?
Do you believe that Lebron James? Do you believe that
the Lebron jas Hell?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yes, Lebron?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
You what?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
But I'm not giving up Mobley's my whole future. That's
like saying giving upper when he's a draft.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
They gave it their whole future in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I mean with the Cleveland four years now, four or five,
four twenty was drafted.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
A lot of years. Chat, I understand something.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I know why Why can't you win with without with
Bron instead of moment.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'm not saying that, I'm just saying I'm asking a chat.
You need the defense. He's a stretch for.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
You got j A, you got DeAndre Hunter. I don't know, Bro,
Bron can guard your worst.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Dere Hunter, Mobley all my picks right before I give
it Mobley, all right, I'm getting rid of if you
give up Darius Garland, Jared Allen, DeAndre Hunter gets a
job done with a bunch of picks, because.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Then I think you got worst defense defensively. What if
you give up j A and DeAndre Hunter?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Your rather just lose one then three? You got man screws.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
You got guys you can your future though, he's your
future cornerstone. Don is a franchise player, but he's a cornerstone.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
He's like the Chris Bosh to Lebron people.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Hey, listen, people, let people go all the time.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
I'm saying this all I'm saying this, and people are like,
Lebron doesn't move the needle.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
The disrespect of Lebron is still.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
No.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
This is what starts talking about can start pretty much.
You're tripping. I don't think it moves the needle with
this Lakers team. Dog, I'm just being honest, and we
gotta be real about this. Austin Reeves, Luca, Braun Rui,
and Da are not a good defensive lineup. It's not
a good defensive lineup. If you look back at the

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first five minutes of that basketball game, they weren't. They
all look at each other like you're supposed to rotate.
Oh no, that's you. Oh shit, wait, we gotta make
extra effort now because we all out here together.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Who's guarding your.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Best player with that starting lineup? The only way I
can see it exactly, the only way, the only way
it can remotely work in a starting lineup is if
you go and say you gotta take Ruie out and
you gotta put Marcus Smarty.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
That it does.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
How long does it work?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
I don't know. I don't think it's a championship.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
The second unit play god because it s better defensively.
That's all it is.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
You gotta take really has to be out the starting
lineup if you wanted to remotely work, it has to be.
And then at that point you have to get yourself
to the fourth quarter where it comes down to scoring.
But in the fourth quarter, what is it all? It

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comes down to what you gotta get stops at the
end of the game. Can you trust Lebron, Luca, Austin
Reeves and d A and fucking who's the who's the
other guy you want to put in there? You said,
oh I forgot really yeah, so really got paid.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Right, I don't think you gotta pay crazy bag, but
he got paid.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You have you have to play. You have to play smart.
Smart has to play at the end of games. Now, listen,
scoring wise, putting that ball in that basket. They're fucking dangerous.
I never have worried about them offensively, That's never been.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
My Actually have a I have a question of guys offensively,
there's usually only killing three guys. Right, is gonna be
happy with the basketball? We know what he looks like
without the basketball.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
No, he's but da is in a position where he
got it. He either got to get with it or
get known.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
But that's what I'm saying though. But you know he
but he's been playing better, but Lebron hasn't got in
or he could be the fourth option.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
No, I don't think. I don't think d should say anything. Yeah,
I think he got touches last I think, yeah, he.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Got as a big man. You're happy with that. I
feel like some guys want to actually rock. Oh. I
feel like that was a problem for him in Portland.
There's a problem for him in Phoenix that he didn't
get featured. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I think Lakers will be featured.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I was asking the question.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Lebron, James and lucas you know, damn will he won't
be featured. No, you're right, feature up here? What's my
what's my man? Forward? Land?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
They're not Ford Allen. They're not gonna be just fine.
They got a like Defensively, they are bad. They're bad.
You can sit here and say, oh, we're gonna be
boxes and elbows, but the best.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Teams can shoot the piss out the ball. They're gonna
get bro who they playing even play? That was your
best defensive but Vandall can't play. It's not enough minutes.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Everybody with Marcus Smart is your best two.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I'll get you here. But this is my thing.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
They have to figure out a way to hide all
the defensive problems they will have at the end of
the game with those three being on the court together.
I'm just being completely honest. Offensively, they could easily be
one of the most dangerous teams out there. You can't
really get more dangers than Lebron, James and Luca on

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the court at the same time. And then you got
Austin Reeves becoming a fucking star. That's that's that's that's
not debatable. They're fucking great offensively. Defensively, it is a
fucking problem.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
It's scary. Defensively, I agree it's bad. I mean, let
me ask Jordan Young because he's you know, he always
hates on all of our Lakers. Takes Jordan Young, how
are you guys defensively? Because it was nasty. You keep
talking about offensively, but defensively, you guys are nasty. Let
us known the chat. Shelta Alvin. Alvin's been here a
little bit. Shelta obviously do more research, always talking ship

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to us beyond ordinary lifestyle. Will sub do more research?

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Ford Allen, what's up? Tony? Tony? That this me yesterday?
That still what's up? I appreciate you coming coming back
into the chat. Macho James always Kelvin's always here.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
So y'all say so y'all truly think? I mean this
is for everybody in chat that as constructive. Right now,
they are a championship level team. No ray, no way
are they, no.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Can are they better than They're not better than the
top two teams. I just don't think. I think they
still got some hoes within their team. Now, when you
got a fucking Luca in a fucking Lebron James. You
give yourself a chance. They don't have a chance. I
always got a chance. So don't don't let me. Don't
don't let y'all take what we said with disrespect. But

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if you think that they're going to be different Nuggets
in the seven game series or OKC in the seven
game series, yah, your mind, but that But this is
this is what I'm talking about. How are we not?
How are we not?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
This team is orchestrated to win a championship. This is
when you got Luca, Austin Reeves and fucking Bron. You're
there to win. They're not there to fuck around. So
why are we talking like, oh, this is the best
thing coming. No, they don't have enough to win a championship.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
They have a They have a fucking problem. Nobody, nobody,
j Dub like somebody, somebody has to understand, Like, dude,
how much really averaging right now? Really was fucking cooking?
He was cooking. So is Larry markin you.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Know who's cooking that? And look at he's arging fifteen
on fifty six percent shooting. We're gonna talk.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
About fucking bad.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
But you know, Dylan Brooks is averaging a dub.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I'm not shocked he cooking. But the boy that motherfucking
confidence is a beastaining it.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Confidence.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Confidence is a beast.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
So yeah, listen, they're bad defensively, guys voting the poll
because you know, I don't think anybody on this couch
thinks they're contender. But we'll see what y'all think. Let's
talk about Luca Man. That boy's been hooping. He's leading
the league in scoring. You want to run the clips
please at him. He just makes it look so easy easy.
What I didn't want to ask you THEO is he
considered a good three point shooter because he shoots like

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thirty five is thirty four, and he takes a high
volume of threes. He can shoot it. I think it's
he was two for ten last night.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
He has his nights.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
I don't think he's like it's not fucking staff or
dame of those guys, but you better respect that motherfucker
because he'll make your ass. Yeah, he can shoot the
ship out the ball. But like, just like how we're
gonna talk about later, how Dallas is moving on. I
just this is just my opinion. It's time to just

(32:25):
build it. Like don't waste this, don't waste the greatness.
You see what I'm saying, Like this mand is averaging
fucking forty if you.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Keep this team the way it is.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
If you if you keep this team the way it is,
you're wasting a great year from a great player. So
why not go ahead and see what you can get
for Hey, look, bro, it's whatever. Y'all can think I'm
fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
But.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Lebron.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't think they're gonna let Lebron go, be honest
with you can't. I don't think Lebron go. But you
still have some assets where you can make some changes.
And to me, they need to get some more some
more defensive guys like Jimmy Grant.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
That's the name I throw. If you can get a
bunch of assets.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
But they can hoop. They still can hoop, but they
can play their rule. So they'll lock up on the
and they and they loan what Jeremy Grant like six nine.
So I put it put it this way. I'll put
it this way. You replace this is, you keep Bron,
you keep a R and you keep Luca. Right, you
gotta replace Ruie and d A for energy effort, defensive bigs.

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I don't know who that is, right, I think if
you can replace d A with fucking Clint Coppeller, right, No,
you can't get Clint Coppeller because that trade don't even
make sense, right, But if you can find somebody like
Will Can with Clint Capella and Tory, yeah you get
those two guys. You get those two guys, right, you trade,

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you trade them. You need two guys that are willing
to like Doe would have been perfect, Yeah, do would
have been perfect.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
I think Marcus is good, right, I think Marcus is fine.
You got to keep him. It's really it's really, honestly,
in my opinion, kind of ruie because that starting lineup
is just so that you first of all, that's a
big ass starting lineup, huge starting lineup, but they it's
not enough energy and effort. Guys like you gotta think,

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ok C got three guys that are your go getters
and Jay uh and Shay what's the old boy name,
Jalen JDub JDub and check right, you got two energy
guys that are out there to do their fucking job,
and that is Lou.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Dort and.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Defense. That's difference exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, but that's why and that's why it works. So
then so then with Denver you got Christian Brown, Christian
Brown and Aaron Gordon. You always got to have at
least two guys that just do their fucking john. With
Boston who you have Derek White.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
And it's not.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
But that's don't get a twisted though. The play defense
to they just they don't desert as much energy on
that end, but because they have to go on the
other end and give buckets.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
But Jones, Okay, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Let me let me say this.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
That's why it's a big issue, because we got we
gotta call a spade spade.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Lebron and Luca are not gonna be They're not Jalen
and j T. No, we know that.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
No, Like that's okay though, Yeah, because they're they're so
great on the other end, that's okay. So at that point,
if I got Luca and Bron, historically, historically Bron has
had at least three energy level guys, but one of
them is a fucking shooter that could shoot the piss
out of the ball around you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
And Jr.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Even turned into a defender. He ended up start guarding
better than he than he was. He'll have to have
those type of guys around. Tristan Thompson got to have it, bro.
Tristan Thompson was a defender. He was a hell of
a rebounder. Listen, I'm speaking from it. Like I said,
this is the knock to those guys because Lucas spends

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so much energy being great. On the other end, you
can't do nothing because you're in all every single night
when he's dropping forty.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's not easy to fucking do.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
But when I was with Dallas, we were literally talked like, hey, look,
this man is fucking doing everything he doing on the
office end. You're gonna have to do a little bit
more on this end of the court to help him.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
You know that. You know that going into it.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
So they got to have more people on the team, which,
like I said, that's up to JJ to implement those lineups.
But it's hard to do it when you got sut.
Austin's making it tough. Austin's made it tough because if
Austins look bad, you can just move from Austin, right,
But you can't. You can't just give up Austin because

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you know bron On almost up out of that. So
now you just gotta do what you can to see.
You can't just waste these years, bro. You can't be like, well,
we know we're not gonna win it this year, but
we got to keep these three together. Why that don't
make no fucking sense to me. You got a guy plan.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
You can keep them three together because you gotta make
some more changes. You gotta make some changes, bro, you
got to make.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Some changes like that Trey Murphy and Herb Jones. If
you go get them, you go trade Lebron for some
of them. I do like that for them. Trade who
for Trey Murphy and things?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Gotte get Lebron out of there. Lebron is not being traded.
He told you that ain't going nowhere. So you gotta
go to you more. You gotta go to You ain't
getting trade Murphy though? For that Trey Murphy is hoping.
Why not?

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Murphy?

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Bron would even Brown? Would they need to make changes?
Go to Golden State or Cleveland. I think he would
go to either of those teams.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
If it got to it, he would go to Jonathan mingo,
you ain't taking Jonathan cominga Why No? I don't think
the Lakers would. Why I just don't think they would.
I think Bron does more for you.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
In what sense?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I mean, defensively coming is better. I think offensive Lebron's better.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
All right, Listen, the only way Lebron James is getting
traded if he wants to get traded, agreed. Let that
be understand. Let that be understood. And he's going to
dictate where he goes. So you're gonna be on the Lakers,
is gonna be on what's his thing? Plinka. It's gonna
be a pelinka to figure out what assets they get
if Lebron.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Think Bron will be okay with averaging fucking this amount
all year.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
No, I don't know. I really don't know. No, that's
no better than I do. I really don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
No, I mean, one thing I do know about Lebron.
I will say this, he wants to win. He do
wants to win. Now, is he willing to take a
back seat to Luca to do that? Who knows? I
don't know. I don't know what's in his head at
year twenty three. Now, he ain't taking a back seat
that a are I'm gonna tell you that he ain't
taking two back seats he'll take a back seat to Luca.

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I think just to let Luca rock out. He don't
have to do it as much. But him taking seven
shots for the rest of the year, that that level. No,
he's not doing it. That's not happening at least I
think at this point a year twenty three for him
to keep his body up and play longer, say he
want to play another two more years, he has to
play this way. Yes, the players, but if they if they.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Think Lebron more more than like the family situation, if.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
They if they trade, if they trade for the right pieces,
if they trade for the right pieces, I don't think
he's going to where and Bron is okay doing what
he did last night, it'll work. I just don't see you.
I can't see him being okay with that because he's
easy if you're winning. But what I'm saying is he
don't have to do that every game. It's gonna be
games where you need Lebron to score, and it's gonna

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be games where you need Lebron to be a facilitator
like he was last night. And I think he's and
at this point I think he's willing to do that.
I think he's willing to Some Knights do this, some
Nights do that, because at this point of his career,
he wants to win again. He wants one more ring
before he leaves the game.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
He wants to he wants to catch up Kobe.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
He wants one more ring before he leaves a game.
I'm telling you so, I think he's willing to do whatever.
Now if it ain't gonna fit with the Lakers, then
that's when you'll start hearing. Okay, Lebron James is gonna
get traded, and that's because he's implementing it.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
No, we we about to get We're about to get
barked at the next four games because they play the
Jazz again on Sunday, they play the Clippers, then they
play the Mavericks, and then they play the Pelicans.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
The Clippers game will be easy, you think, but then
we're gonna see.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Then they play the Sons, then they play the Raptors
in Toronto, play Boston and Boston. Then they played the
Sixers in the Phi Leagues. Then they play the Jazz again, Clippers, Sons, Rockets, Sacramento, Detroit.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
And that's the thing. At that point, we don't even
know what team is gonna look like they set they
set up.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
They schedule kind of cupcake for the next December is
kind of weak. Yeah, they got they got a nice
little schedule. Guy, Yeah, they schedule.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Look, James is the face of the league. By they're
going to take care of the bride. James. I better
always remember that.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
So my question for Lucas do you guys think Luca's
winning the MVP this year? He's in the race eleven
and four right now, he's in the race. I think
he has to be the favorite for for two reasons. Ay,
they're cooking. I'm gonna tell you this. I'm sure everybody
loves to see a new MVP, So I feel like
they're gonna vote for Luca. The story of him leaving
the Mavericks win the MVP next year. I think all

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those narrators are gonna be driving the people's heads. If
he's performing like this, it's gonna help. But you can't
dismiss what that man is doing over there in Denver.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I know.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
See, listen, those guys are always gonna be MVP candidates.
I just think he has everything going from this year.
You forget what is doing either, honest. Yeah, but they
ain't they aint gonna win enough games? In my opinion, Huh,
they ain't gonna win enough game. They're gonna be a
playoff team in the East there. But I don't think
they'll win fifty plus games. I don't know about that.
We'll find out they might win, and they might win
that in an East. To me, I think it would

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just be around fifty.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Though.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Somebody wants to talk about konk Nip, but we already
talked about yesterday.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
He was, hey, look, hey, you got to get a
shout out to Kanknip. I ain't even a lot to you.
I didn't. I didn't think he can do the things
that he's doing. Trying to tell you, no, he showed
me a lot. He put a ball on the floor,
he rebounds, he plays hard.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Shout out to him, man, because I said Austin. Because
Austin could do a little bit more than to shoot
the ball as a rookie. So I'm asking, who do
you guys think he looks like?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Now? You don't look like as Austin could got a
little bit more wiggle, got little more, bounced, a little
bit more wiggle to his game in there. Uh, just
because the chat maybe maybe Gordon Hayward. Yeah, Gordon has
good compared.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I like Gordon. I like Gordon. That was a great one. Right,
let's get to it man. The Western Conference standings, Adam,
if you want to be able to pull this up
when you take your time, there's some surprises there.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
I think the Lakers are eleven and four. Obviously Oklahoma
has only lost one game. Denver is like ten and three.
The Warriors are middling around nine in seven. It's kind
of it's looking a little spooky for different teams. Mavericks
for eleven.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
The wild West.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
It's a wild wild West, Adam, listen, know how much
long you need to get the standings up.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
And four?

Speaker 5 (44:14):
Four?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
You can make that bigger, Adam. Just I'm zooming on
that if you can.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah, fucking Minnesota nine and five, Phoenix nine and six.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Look at, don't skip the ship.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
We're gonna start at the west. Let's click on the West.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, because what's the name. Honestly, Phoenix should be eleven
and four. They fucked around.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Two games, they smoke the game, they smoked the game
against the Hawks.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Are there any surprises here? The words the Phoenix, Phoenix?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
If you could tell me If anybody thought Phoenix was
gonna be there, you're a fucking lion. I finish. I
thought was gonna be a playoff team. They're gonna be lottery.
I thought I thought they're gonna be lottery. Listen, playing
is gonna play as well as they playing, not as
well as they're playing, not as will as they playing.
But listen when you add dudes like listen, Dylan Brooks,
say what you want to say about Dylan Brooks. He's

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a winner.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Let's talk about Phoenix first. But let me just a winner,
do more research. I think your name is Jay. The
words look like ass. I've said it a bunch of times.
You don't have to keep addressing that in the chat.
They look like booty right now. It is what it is.
The words got some ship to figure out.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
But Minnesota, though, hey, look we're definitely talking about the
Phoenix Suns. Though Minnesota, Minnesota is just still just doing
their thing, like they're still a team to be wrecking
with down the offense, top ten defense.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
We know the top four. It's nasty down there. It's
nasty four and eleven for the Grizzlies. We all have
them as a playoff team.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
All those teams. All those teams are in the band,
Sam Peterson. Kings is nasty.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Remember you only two and a half games out of making.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
The play Listen. All that talent they got the Kings
is under the MAVs.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I told you they were making the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Oh my gosh, all that talent they got it never fit.
And they fired Mike Brown.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
The talent never fited.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
They try to make it feel like it was Mike
Brown's fault, but at least he had them in the playoffs.
He had to win the games.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
How many role players do they have on the side.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
The only team I really believe that can remotely make
a somewhat of a shot at a run is the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
The Maps have a chance if they keep it healthy.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Well, we know that's not happened, and we're gonna talk
about we don't.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Talk about that. Yeah, I mean, listen. The Grizzlies. No
one expecting before and eleven. I think everybody said this
couch to the Grizzies are probably gonna be around sixty
six to nine.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
I wasn't even big that high on the grizz You.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Want to die high? I think me. Charlie and Rare
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
With Kawhi Leonard again? What's heard about him?

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Now?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
You guys, if we talk about Joel Embiid playing not
playing a lot of games, Kawhi Leonard, like we said yesterday,
he's played sixth season and played.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Kawh Leonard's worse Jol two D and fifty games. He's
worse to Jolan Be. He's worse than Jolan B, Jordan
bed Bro, Joel Embiid is. I would like to see
those numbers, the numbers.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I'll let you know.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I'm taking. I'm taking Charlie ship today. I'm a numbers guy.
I would love to see that. In six years, who's
played more games? Okay, okay, six years, play more games?
And six years I'll I'll do five because this year
doesn't count five. So I'll do the math right now,
real quick. So Kawhi played fifty seven?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
What is up with this thing? Fifty seven? I'm not
your hold on hold on fifty two. No, I'm doing
a calculator right now. That's fifty two plus sixty eight
plus thirty seven. So in five years, Kawhis played two
hundred and sixty six games. Okay, Jon Bees last Jones last.
But it's gonna be close.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
It's gonna be it's gonna be close.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
It's gonna be close.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Joel had two years where he played a lot, thank.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
You, no, but he played like sixty six games. Yeah,
it's close, so we got we got six. He had
two years that he played last five years one, two, three, four, five, Okay. Cool.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
They said the whole Clippers team need to apply for
senior citizen insurance.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Stupid. They their whole team got the.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Forty three. Kawhi Gotawi got about twenty six games.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I told you was gonna be close, though.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah, it's close. It's close, but it's I don't know
Joel and Bib we always knew he had knee issues.
I wonder how bad Kawhi's knee actually is.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Clippers in Sack has been the most disappointed teams in
my opinion.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I think the most disappointing to me team has been
the Mavericks.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
They really they got injuries. So I'm really not disappointed
they got injuries. Yeah, so I'm not disappointed.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Marcus. Yeah that makes sense. I mean I can agree
with that. The Pelicans, Marcus, the Pelicans should not be
to two and two and twelve. Be real, y'all. I
agree that, I agree they have I know Zion has
been out a little bit, but Zion gotta go. Zion
has got to go.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
They gotta move.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
These other teams are talking about fire sale, Pelicans start
the funk over.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, they got to like and they got some players
over there that can help. A lot of teams talking
about it. But that Fears, the Jimmy Fears kid is good.
I like him alive, I like him a lot.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Oh you he was cooking, bro. He he has no
fear in his game.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
They said Zion should open up a restaurant. But you
know this kid supposed to be coming. He supposed to
be coming this year to the NBA. Who you know
he went? He ear he was in the l when
we was there trying nigga. He said, IM gonna go.
I'm gonna go to ou get.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Some shout out to the Oasis. George, always talking ship.
But we appreciate you tapping in live with us. Sometimes
you're not live with us. Appreciate you joining us today.
Do more research with sub Alvin. We got Marcus in
the chat.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Star.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
You've been a little quiet today, Star.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Talking ship.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Been quiet for the last ten minutes or so. We
appreciate seeing you. Lewis Dre's in the building, shelter Dre.
I saw the car earlier, but the car has been
a little Quietay, maybe he's working tens and what's up.
And then we got obviously beyond ordinary lifestyle, you know,
and Ravon appreciate you talking ship as always.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
You know, they were on fire. They were saying that
the East might be better than the west.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, that's that's our next thing, is east deeper than
the west. There's no way.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Look at the records.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Okay, let's go to the east.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Oh, it's way more winning records on the East, and
there are the West. It is I think from that,
I think it balanced out the Chicago Bulls.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
It's a problem.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
But hold the hold the hold.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
The Miami Heat winning games and they not expecting himself
to steal Miami Heat is not healthy, and they win
the games. Bam Man Tyler, that Heat. You had to
stop working with them. But the Heat are.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Always a good no, no no, they're not always good team.
No no no.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
They don't usually start like this though.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
No no, but they will always make their way into
the playoffs. That's what the Heat do. That's heat culture.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
They don't usually start like this. I'm with you and
BAM's not playing Tyler heroes not playing.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
But I'll ask you the question. Are they always not
in the playoffs? That's what the heat doing.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
The Boss are eleventh in the East. Yes, but that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
But but they but they've had the honest has been
out for I think. Actually there's six and seven.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
My nigga. The Bucks are eleventh in the East. That's crazy,
That's that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
So when you say they're deeper, do you mean they
just have better teams.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
More balance and they eight and seven? They got to
win the record.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
No, they're six and seven.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I'm talking ship. But this is this just shows how
wide open the East is.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
But but that means that it's more balanced. Is the
East is more balanced? I'm cool with that statement.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Ye. Balance ain't gonna sit any better.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, because let's just be real the okay, see in
Denver on a whole different planet than every team in
the league, whole different planet.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Yeah, you got a fucking point there. Detroit.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
I don't believe in Detroit they need one more and
if Jad and.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I understand that, but they are still fucking beating people.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
They're a great team, but I don't believe in the playoffs.
They need one more shot.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Let me let me tell you all this. I think
we're gonna be the have a problem. I'm gonna tell
you why they might have. Nis might be gone. Let
me let me name this off. They lost to the Raptors, right,
they beat the Bulls, lost to the Rockets, beat the
Mavericks about two, No a D. Lost to the Hornets,

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played the Hornets again, beat them in LT, lost to
the Lakers, lost to the Calves.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Giannis is out.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Now you play the Sixers tonight on Theay, and you
play Detroit, then you play Portland, then you play the Heat,
then you play the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Oh, they got a rough schedule. That's five five good teams.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
They're they're they're eleven. This is they're not like three,
where like, okay, we can drop a couple.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
But remember everybody's like a game over, two games over.
It's all. It's packed.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
But you're about to play with no Gianni's for a
couple of weeks? Is that that loone growing.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
About a week? It's reported right now that he's out
for a week. They say they didn't see anything bad.
It's just really precautionary.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Bro. It's it's scary, but it's gonna be revalued in
the week.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Listen, guys, I don't see I don't see Gianni's finishing
the season with the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
No, there's no way, Bro, I don't see him next year.
He's still next year contract. Huh, he's on contract next year.
They're gonna train this all this coming.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Off seasoning an off season.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah, that's an off season move. You don't move you honest?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Midway, what if he say I want to go?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
If he says he wants to go, different conversation, I
don't think he will say that. Johnest comes off to
me as the type of guy that's gonna ut. Then
he's gonna be like, in the off season, we gotta
I gotta make.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
So he basically, let's just get into the playoffs and
then do we need to do?

Speaker 1 (54:11):
And then once the season's over he'll evaluate and be like, Okay,
let's see do I still want to be here? What
moves are Being.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Eleventh in the East right now? Is this wide open?
Is not good? In my opinion.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I mean, they're eight and seven.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
You don't need to be in close games with the Hornets.
You already he lost the game to the Hornets, and
you want to the Hornets.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I think their move for Kusmo has been really was
really bad.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
And Kuzma has been playing well though, But I just.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Chris Chris Middleton to me, I would rather have Chris
Milton still today in my opinion. I think I think
last year they don't get get beat by the Pacers
that handled if you have Chris Milton instead. It was
awful that place.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
They said the interview with Austin River said Mason like
he ain't going nowhere. Well they better do something. Yeah,
we'll find out, guys. Detroit, Well let's just get back
to that quickly. So Ray, you think as is currently constructed,
they don't need any more pieces. They don't need one
more piece because everybody's talking on the chat that they're
good as is. You believe that, Detroit, Yes, yep, I'm rolling.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
You give me comes back.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah, he'll be back, and they're good. They're good. I
wouldn't change nothing.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
How about you?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (55:25):
I think the I think they're good. The record twelve
and two, I think I think they're good.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Why why are we changing anything? I think they're young enough.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
I think they're young enough where you can just see
what you got this year and see how far you
get and try to build some experience with this group,
and then you would reevaluate after the year.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
That's crazy. If Tobias, Harris, n J and I you
aren't playing. You know, I forgot about Tobias.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Exactly. So with them playing the way they're playing, some
of these young guys is hooping. You actually go get
something else if you want to with Tobias hands.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
But that's what I'm saying. I think you need one
more creator. I think you need an elite shot creator.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
That's what. You don't know how good dayly I even
can be. You gotta say that's a big wild card though,
But you gotta see. But you're fine without him right.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Now, Yes, you gotta see it. You do gotta see it.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
You find without him. If you add him and he's
able to fit in with what they're doing, that's scary.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
I'm training to buy from Milik Monk.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
You need another score.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
I'm training to buy from Lake Monk. Oh Monk is
a bucket getter.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Oh I trade Tobias hair as well as zach Lavin.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
If you can make that money work and the deal work.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Hair is getting a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
I think he's off of that contract, to be honest,
are you sure about that?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
I'm check right now, but I believe time Tobia's Hair
signed a contract, it'll be up there exactly.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I like that, Vin, Yeah, yeah, so Zach, Zach's fifty
a year. Zach's like fifty to forty five years.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
He is.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
I agree with Jordan Young. Detroit got a really different
type of chemistry right now. They do.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
You know, you can't underestimate chemistry.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
That's kind of hard. At the table was hooping without
their leader. Yeah, big fellow took over. Big Fella had
like twenty something and eighteen rebounds. Like he's stepping up,
showing like I could be that second guy. He's betting
on himself. He's about to get paid. Give that man.
It's two hundred.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I will say this. I am a huge fan of
Jaye and Ivy. That was one of my favorite pictures.
Is coming out of the draft. I just don't know
if what he'll look like coming back from the injury.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
I don't really mind Zach Levine there though. Zach Levine
would be vet Ad and Zach in the backcourt together.
With them two monsters.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Jaalen Durant has been hooping.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
He's been hooping something something. They gotta they gotta drug
test him. I think they're gonna be all right. I
think they're gonna be alright. I think they're gonna be
all right. You know, we were trying to worry about
what the USA was gonna do. As far as big men,
I think we're gonna be alright. Young fella, bring both
of them abuse, Bring Isaiah and Jared. He said, bring
Isaiah's bring both of them. Bring Stewart for security reasons,

(58:02):
bring him.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
No. I think I think with start that nigga guys.
But I also think, like the game is changing so much.
Who's actually I mean, there's Wemby, But other than Wemby,
who you really worried about internationally? I mean should be there,
okay there, but like, and I'm just saying, if he evolves,
I think, if you get six eleven, if you get

(58:23):
a six ten wing like or six six, seven, six eight,
why can't you young.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Who was in the top who was in the final
four last year? Germany? That France? France, and.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
No, I think Canada. Canada was quarter final.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
They got beat They got beat in there. France, it
wasn't it was beat Yeah, Serbia, Yeah, I'm it was Serbia.
It was Serbia, France, us A.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Do you guys see was it Germany?

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Germany? In Germany.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
You're not worried about Franz in terms of like, you
don't need a big traditional biby to yard Franz. You
could put like j Jason Tatum on him. You're worried
about jo kicch and Wenby m hm. So I mean
Jalen Duran can I think he can guard jo Kic decently.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
It's internationals a different game though. It's a different game
that physicality they got them. Foreign teams got motherfuckers just
like Jalen Duran that's just strong and just out there
and just move people. And they grown me and they
they grown thirty eight, He twenty two with them. Motherfuckers
got kids, they got a feed. They playing for their
country country.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
They'll be Evan and Duran probably.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I don't know if Evan Mobley is what you don't like,
Evan Mobley European international player, He's like Chris Washed to me,
not international play for me.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
We're gonna have to have to who else we're gonna get.
I mean you got Pollow, you got fucking you got Bam,
Pollow went there, Pollo who bam been over there to
bam bam.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
You have Bam. And I think Evan Moby he's one
of the best defensive in the league. Why wouldn't you
bring him?

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
You're going with Mobile, going with check.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I'm going to Mobile a check, I don't know. But
defensively you have you have what you need. Offensively, you
need a better defense big.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
You don't need fours though, like Tatum's a four fucking
but Moby's are five. Fuck no, I'm not putting Mobile.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
That's my five.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Other than your kitchen Wemby, who else? Who else is
gonna give you a problem with that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
At the five? I think you have to go check
shoot the three and you got not as good as Check.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I think Chick's better at the at.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
The Listen, this is a forty minute game, right, you
gotta understand the international game, and we gotta understand is
a d still gonna be available? And don't forget about
fucking Toronto. I mean Canada now, no, but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
They don't have bigs they do now, don't be Zaki
don't worry about Zachy biggest ship. I don't worry about Zach.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
He's big.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
That's a national game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
He didn't exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
You can't really shoot like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Don't big. There's no bigs and there's no you got all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
You got all them scores over there his guards.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
You need a big man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Let me rephrase that. ZAKII was not a problem last
year because he was a rookie. In twenty twenty four,
they Dwight Pale. I'm not worried about the White pal
if he plays again. Dwight Poe probably won't play. They
had a random guy named Melvin E Jim that played
the four. He's six six, I know Canada's roster. The
only person you're worried about Zachi Y. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
All I'm saying is you can get somebody else. Serbia
had us down fucking twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
And Steph Curry saved the day and step Steph sure day.
And that's something people said to you, was like, how
can you say Steph is not more box office when
everybody just want to watch Steff go off like that
against Serbia. That's a lot of arguments or the bron thing.
But listen, I'm not more. We don't have to argue
about it, Zach. But Canada is very guard heavy. Their
best players are neb Hard, Jamal, Andrew Shay and Dylan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
That should have been the first name you've seen, No, first.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
I got Ridy. You should have said j Barrett. But
that's what I'm saying though, and then O Shaper said,
he's you're not worried Aboutkelly On. You could put Jalen Durant.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
On the same But they got size though, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
But my point is Brooks is their guard depth is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Crazy stupidn't even having Andrew Wiggins in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
There, I know, said yeah, but we'll see what happens,
and they got I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Mention Shane Cousins.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
You got, but Nada's producing a lot of elite guards,
not a lot of lead bits. And they have a
kid named Miller, got Anthony Miller from don't mention that
name anthy Bennett though my class.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
So where is he at now?

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
I think he's in Brampton. He's in Brampton, shouts out Brampton.
I don't know if you guys heard about the Brampton
means man. All right, let's get to the Mavericks. A
let's play the clip. But the clip will basically tell you,
guys that the Mavericks, it makes sense why they're making moves.
They're about to be three hundred and fifty million dollars
plus in payroll. Yeah, let's let's run the clip. It's

(01:02:59):
not good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I mean, it's not good at all.

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
It's probably it's probably the most dire that it's been
ever in franchise history. We in the article that we
have on ESPN dot com on Monday, we took a
look we look at next year, what the offseason is
going to look at. Listen, Dallas finishes in a luxury
tax this year, they're gonna be a repeater tax next year.
I mean, you know four to five years.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
You know, you pay a.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Snake significant penalty.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
The tax.

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
It doesn't have as much of a bite as you
guys know about. You know, the apron rules. The second
apron has got a lot of bite to it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
You're looking at being in.

Speaker 6 (01:03:33):
The apron, you're looking at potentially paying I think we
figured out the number. It was like three seventy in
salary in luxury tax for next year's roster. When you
look at it, wow, because sure, yeah, I mean you're, you're, you're.
It's gonna be the It would be the biggest tax
penalty in franchise history. I think it's one hundred and
fifty million, one hundred and sixty million dollars. We look

(01:03:55):
at pj's extensions starting to kick in, you know, certainly
with with Anthony's and Kyrie's, and you got a bunch
of guys making thirteen fourteen million dollars, and the numbers
begin to add in and then.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Yeah, three hundred and three hundred and seventy million dollars
potentially for four and eleven fifteen games.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Gotta move them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
So it's been reported today that the mass will be
shopping Anthony Davis gotta go, He's got to go. Do
we have that Anthony Davis graphic? Adam give me a
thumbs up?

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
No, okay, cool, Yeah, yeah, there we go. Anthony Davis
will be explored before the deals will be expored before
the deadline. It's less than one year together. They've been
together for what I want to call it, nine months.
Mark Cuban is now also back in control of basketball ops.
That's what is reported. Do y'all want to dive into this?

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
They got he makes fifty eight million next year.

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
Anthy Davis. I believe so it's something you gotta go.
Gotta go, guy sick, you gotta go. Can't give him
fifty eight million. I can't give him fifty eight million. Well,
somebody got to give it to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Somebody's going to Golden State.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
He's either going to Golden State or he going to Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
You Jimmy Butler, for you gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Fuck No, Jimmy Butler. He's too fucking tough, bro that niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
You have to trade.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Jimmy Butler is a natural born winner.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
You have to trade Raymond Huh No, I don't think
you're trading salaries on that up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I don't know what you do. I think I think
he just goes to Chicago. Opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
He yeah, he's making fifty four this year, fifty eight
next year and then sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Who are you giving up? Are you giving up? Josh Giddy?

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
No, you ain't giving up Giddy. You probably get get
up with Kobe. Probably gotta give up Nurkic. I mean not,
what's his name, Zuba. You gotta probably gota give up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Gotta go and Kobe. That might make up the college salary.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
It's nasty Rusavich is I think like thirty a year.
Let me double check.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
And then Kobe got like twenty something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
It is only twenty a year. How much is Kobe Coby?
I think Kobe's like twenty something.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
They said, would if ady go back to the Laker? Kobe,
you play with Luca.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Kobe's up on extend.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Kobe's up in extension.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
But he's only making twelve a year. Bro, Kobe's hooping
to Kobe. That's a discount in a half.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Yeah, he about to get a bag.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
He's about to get a bag, thought to Kobe.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
So that wouldn't work because they trying to They ain't
trying to sign nobody for no more money. Yeah, they
ain't trying to pay more. So coming here ain't gonna
work at it. Him going to Chicago. Letf they give
up Josh Giddy. Josh Getty just got that bag.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
I can't give up Josh Giddy for eighty He's having
a trip. Doub y'all doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
I didn't say I was doing them, said Troy, Hell no, no,
do not do that. They're not messing it up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Do you think do you think eighties they swap O
eighty and he goes back home.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Eighty to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
No, would you take Jew back?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
I'm rolling brings you here, m Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Do you think they sent eighty back home?

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
I think you would love to play for the mass He.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
No Zion with Coop change the scenery for both of them,
and goes back to New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
He said, he going back and Coop o Zion. Hell, no,
you're gonna take a nigga that heard all the time
for another nigga that hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Get the deal done. Salaries will probably be close. Nah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I just think I think he comes here, Zion. I
think no, Julius random comes here. That's who he goes
to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
You don't like that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Why I don't like a D? And I don't like
a D and uh big big fella.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
And and Rudy Gobert, I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
I don't like that either.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Trey, Rudy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
If you could trade go Beart for for for a D,
I would do it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
There might be the same Rudy game back two hundreds.
If you if you keep, if you can keep a D,
I know that how much how much of your Rudy making?
How much are your Rooty making huh oh who has picks?
They're going after picks.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Okay, See, Rudy is making about only thirty six a year.
It's not that it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
That's crazy that you're making thirty six, I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Man, compared to his fifty eight. Bro, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Only thirty six. Damn, Rudy's making thirty six million.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Is not that bad for Rudy. He's a starting center.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Dude, he's just making twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
No, he should be making twenty five to thirty. But
like thirty six is not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Too bad he was making before, bro, Yeah, because that's
what yes, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
That's why said it's not that bad. Bro. Bro, before
he was on five years, two hundred. Bro, that's forty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
He's four, he's four times defensive played the year. He's
a five year All Star.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
I think it's a two time All Star, but seven
time All.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Defense sevent defense. Yeah. Yeah, they gives you. That gives
you forty a year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Yeah, no, I agree, that gives you forty plus. A
starter's twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Say what you want to say his you know, I
don't really care for him either, but.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Also stablished. A starter is twenty five he's an above
average starter. Yes, he's thirty five to forty is fair
for him? Yeah, I understand the numbers. I'm giving him
thirty six dollars. Sergio, you're discussing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
So when the hell can they sing? I don't know
with all his money. I don't know where can they
see him with all this money?

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
I don't know Toronto?

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Can you can you google who can afford a d.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Which is Brooklyn? Let me look at sal Yeah, you
can't send him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Sending to Brooklyn and he just don't play. I don't know,
bro right, Maybe I tried it. If I'm Boston. You
don't got nothing to lose the raptors. The raptors to try.
You can't sign anybody to Toronto.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
So you got a gamble. You send r J. Beard. Great,
you got you got teams that don't get anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Somebody said eighty to the aces.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
That's crazy. Who's so?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Who're giving up? Y'all stupid? So who you're giving up?

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
You're ready calf space. Brooklyn's got fifteen million dollars in
cap space and Utah's got ten million. Lorie marketing for
for for I'm just throwing out there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
I know you just obviously what what fits? Who fits?

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I think he can go to Boston, Golden State or Chicago.
Those teams I'm willing to get.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
You don't have no trade cause I just want assets back.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I understand he picks his Boston half.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
I don't know, but I got a team for y'all.
I only look at Boston's fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
That is God, does.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Indiana make sense at all? No? No, you set him
out for your get him healthy running with Tyres, all right. No,
Boston owns their own pick this year. They have three
second round picks, so Minnesota, that's all complicated. They own
the twenty seven first onund the under twenty eight. They've
owned all the first round draft picks the next five years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Are you willing the game before Anthony Davis?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Only two draft picks not four?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
That's cool? You just need a couple. I just need ship. Fuck,
I needed I just needed for this year.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Eighty for Miles Turner. That's not happening.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
You need a name back him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Are you wanted the chat?

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Appreciate you all? Three twenty four?

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Yeah, chat man?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Are you doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Ay to the glow Strotters, that's crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:11:37):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Charlie the Chats dyamallical.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
So what do you you start? You see all serious,
all serious comments right now, A d.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
To Houston, No, why would you mess that up?

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
You can get back Clint and and enough money, Adams,
not enough money and a pick.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
That's not bro You need a guard bro Ad for
the No. Eighty eighty to the eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
He ain't coming on this show. We're talking about trading them.
We ain't talk about it. They said it now, Houston.
Wondn't work. Golden State needs him gold zero size. Golden
State needs him. You don't have enough to give up.
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
We don't have the offense anymore to outshoot teams and
run their biggs off the floor, and we just have
zero size.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Golden State needs him, Boston needs him, Chicago needs him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Those are needs.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Eighty for Scotty Barnes. I don't hate that, but that's
not happening. That's Chronald's franchise player.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Eighty to the Kings.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
What the is that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Please don't do that, Charlotte, bring bring some Bonas and
and Zach here. But this is the thing, though, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Getting out of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I'm injured.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
I'm injured too, wearing Wiggins, I don't mind that, and
some picks you get A Wiggins been bawling. I didn't
say that because you Canadian. And where is the talent?

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
I like where, I like young boys.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I don't mind him to the heat.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
I would say bam before I say him though Wiggins
and bam.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Yeah, but you ain't gonna get both. I'll get tired
here on Wiggins.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I'm with that. I'm giving up a cominga and fucking
I'm giving up cominga And uh, what's the big fellow name?
Al y'all can go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
That's not enough money.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Enough money, somebody back it, somebody to give a donation
in I l hey, let's this thing, bro, all.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Right, let's move on to the next topic. It's gonna
we're getting out of hand. Top to the fans had
to put out this list. I'm just curious on your
guys been top They had a top twenty five under
twenty five. I just put the top ten. You wanna
pull up graphic please at him. How's this list?

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Top ten under twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Top ten under twenty five. I'm not rolling with this list.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
The ranking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Now, this is just my fan sided. They had a list.
I thought we just talked about ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
You're not rolling.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
I'm not rolling this list.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Who the hell are you putting it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
I've op and over Evan Mobley and Chat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
By the way tone, I didn't say trade bam. I
wouldn't do that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
I have what I have J double seven, so we
got what vic. I'm pulling the top three. I'm cool
with the top three, top four? Really, y'all have any
objections to the top four?

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Better than check? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Yes, he is the future player. I'm automatical even to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Is he better than Mobli? Yes, I'm taking saying going
better than Mobile.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
I'm taking Evan, I mean Elpern, Alpurn's fly for me.
J Dub's probably six for me. And then I'm cool
with the rest of the list.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
I don't even know if I'll put Palo four.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
I like Palo a lot, but I can see you
taking him out the tyres. Max's twenty five? How old
he's twenty five? This is under twenty five?

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
How old is uh Halliburton?

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Haliburn's over twenty five, he's a he was a senior
and he's been the league for five years.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
You got you got you?

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Shu's my fifth. I'm not gonna lie and then J
Dob's my six. That's why I'm not wrong with this list.
I think some notable names are A D. D.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Low to Brooklyn for Cam Thomas and Nick Klex.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
That's nasty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Ah, don't really mind that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
That's nasty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Bro get something back, that's nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
The notable names offices are probably the melow Ball, which
I don't think he should be up here. Shout to Adam.
That's Adam's favorite player.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
He's under twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
The metal Ball is probably I think he's twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Did he should be on this list?

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Over who?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Don't give the fuck? Ronce series right now?

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
He might be over man, he's over at Franz too, Okay,
that's fair. The next person might be over check yeah,
because he's an All Star. Then they check what never
an all star? That's actually let me double checking fro
the mellow Balls under twenty five? But what yeah he
is because twenty four? Yea, yeah, we're tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Who made this? Yeah, fancided LaMelo Ball should be and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Then the last person that I think should be on
here Scotty Barnes. Scotty Barnes is overt and Franz.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
For me, Yeah, Scotty Barnes should be out there. So
I'm not rolling with this list, But what about the
bad list? Big fellow from Detroit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Jayleen Durant, Yeah know, he's on twenty two. Yeah yet though, No,
he's better.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Than a man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Amen in the playoffs, bro j played well. Just started
really hooping this year, like twenty and ten. You will
love hoop and would you take last year? So who
would you draft?

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Amen? And Jayleen Duran d I'm taking Jayalen Duran.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
I might take him, man, I might take him in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I like that. That's cool with you?

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Hold taking j Are you guys cool with the top five?
What is your top five? Let's get that out of
the way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I am cool with one through four?

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Who's five for you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
I'm cool? One through three? Five? Five is Jay Dubb?

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Then I got Sang Goon, Then I got Lamello. Hold on,
you said Tyr's Max and twenty five? Noamelos. That was
Jalen Green.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Jalen Green is twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
I believe no.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Jamy Green might be twenty five. Actually he's been in
League five five years. He's twenty three. Three.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
David Green is pretty fucking good.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
I don't have him over who Jalen Green his playoffs
here has kind of dropped him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
So your your top five is that four?

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
And then you got got I got the four. JD
San Goon Mobley.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
No, no, Sangoon LaMelo. I think Lamellow Mobley chat front.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
How old is a R?

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Definitely are?

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Oh he looks old.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
He's been in the league. Look twenty seven. Yeah he was,
he was a he was a senior senior. Okay, what
what what's your what's your list? You grew the top three,
the top three? Yeah, what's what's four or five for you?
You just give us your top five.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
I might have to go with j D.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
At four, J Dubb and then Lamellow. So he's got
mos top five.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
That was really I mean, Melo is really good at basketball.
He's just in a bad situation, a bad team.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
I think I don't think he plays winning basketball. That's
my opinion. I don't think he plays winning basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Have you seen his coaches staff? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
We we did talk about this before. You said you'd
like to see him play winning basketball as well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
I would love to see him play winning basketball. But
then when I watched him play and I looked at
who is there?

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Who? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
He's coach Charles something. He came from Uh, you knows
him a little bit, you know him. He came from
Boston on that championship team. Oh so that's why the
game with job probably. Oh Cooper and VJ.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Edge come, I think are lower on the list, guys,
they're like fifteen twenty five stuff like that. My five
is I'm cool with the four and I got Sengoon.
Actually I kind of like JB five. I got segoone six.
I'm cool with Theo's list. Deals list is pretty good.
But I got a man in my on my tenth,
I like, I like two way players. A man is
a lockdown defender, and I think he's gonna get shot better.

(01:19:42):
Showed he can create. He played well in the playoffs.
I'll give him some credit for that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Let's go ahead put this out there. We would never beat.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Take the graphic, by the way, We would never We
will never be able to truly judge LaMelo ball.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
As long as he put Charlotte, we will never get to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Ask you guys this question. I know he listened, his
team's not the greatest, but does effort matter or does
just being a good defender matter.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Ray, you play with the Bobcasts, You're a bad they
were a bad team. How many guys have you seen?

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Just get you get trapped in that right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Oh though, we're disrespectful if you stay, if you stayed
with the Bobcast, watch kitties on that list. I apologize
Josh needs to be on the list, but sorry, go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Ahead, yeah next year?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
No, this year?

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Why this year?

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
He's better than the men Thomson at why point? He's leading?
He led a team in play on that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
We just named guys that he's not better than. No,
he's not better Thanlamelo, but.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
I think I have him right there with Franz.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
He's my tenth that I put Frans on my list.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
You didn't put f on your list. But anyways, continue on. Sorry,
I'll apologize. Josh Getty should be on that list.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
You just can't. You get stuck in that losing culture,
right and sometimes, like even Cevi's talked about it, he
was like, I did a lot of fucking losing and
there's really nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
That doesn't that doesn't define CV as a player. We
just not We just never we don't know, We don't know.
Ray went to the New York Knicks, regenerated his whole
career because now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
He's in, he's in the situation, made the playoffs what
you did last year?

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Yeah, he was changing the culture. Was part of changing
the culture though, That's my argument.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
But who was who was on that team? Right? A?
Mecca get moved yet No Stephen Jackson, Boys, D L
Joe Wallace, me DJ August Tyris Thomash. I said, Wallas,

(01:21:41):
what vet has LaMelo had? That's true? What actually good
team can you say LaMelo has had? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Come on, bro, he was. He was surrounded by guys
who came there in their career. They about but you
also know what what what also helped? And I keep
saying this and I ain't trying, no, no, not to
that coach, but I just don't know who he is.
Larry Brown was our coach, not a fucking coach. We
had a winning coach, no nonsense, like, we had a
winning coach.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Todge Gibson's a good vet. Huh Gibson.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
So you gotta put this, Let me put this in perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
I was a very I was a very Yeah, I
was a very vocal guy. But I didn't play right.
So it's it's easier for a guy. It was very vocal.
Stephen Jackson played and Mecca Okah for played, DJ Augustine played.
So when you have that type of leadership that's out
there going through the battle with you, that's a whole
different type of leadership.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Mason, come on, bro, that's a good vet though.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
The nigga barely been playing. He just got there this year.
But but I also like he just got there this year.
It's surrounding him by other rookies.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
I would you pat on that team.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Domain the right events for him? They have meant stopped
right vents.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Listen that that's where you guys know more. But I
want to bring up to this point, you don't know
who would be a good vetter unless you're in the
locker room. There's you didn't know j D and Carol Mark,
Mark Carroll.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
I think LaMelo would be doing the same thing as
Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
In the room.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
I don't know. I dout it, but you know I
can't say that for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
You want he hed Show when he did it with Show,
did it with Joe Wallace and Stephen Jackson. He want
to do that ship with Stephen Jackson and Wallace. You name.
You just named Gordon Haywood when you stopped. Gordon was
a nice guy. Gordon Haywood was there with him. He
wouldn't playing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
He was paying, No, he was not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
That man was out a lot. That man barely played
in Charlotte, and they have missed it and they gave
him a bag.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
The only pick they really got right was probably Conking
Nipple so far, and fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Brandon Miller is a good pick.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Brandon Miller and conkor Nipple, everything else they brought both right,
they brought damn He's heah, he don't know anything.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
But y'all are excusing for him not trying to change
the culture though.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
You can only do so much in the NBA and
you're playing for Do you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Think play Stock is conducive to changing? Does he play?
Does he play? Both ends at one hundred percent? Like
those are things that matter player.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
But the organization has to help it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
I also want to say this, right, you guys have
said this, both of you guys. If your best player
gives all effort and can be shipped on, everybody else
has to fall in line. Do we know that about LaMelo?

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Ball.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
But I've told you every single We've had this conversation
mount with times. I've told you every great player has
somebody who holds them accountable.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
He never had it, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Well, Lebron James.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Don't look at his team. Did he not play with
what's the coach? What's the coach with Brooklyn? Juwan Howard
on his team?

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
I'm talking about early on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Was Juwan Howard on his team when he won a championship.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I'm talking about his early career, when he won a championship.
I'm looking at the roster right now. I'm looking at
the roster.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Wen El Boogie, Larry Hughes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Without his first Davis Mteinklee the same, but he was
he was only three years in Tony. No, they didn't
have a single.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Player over Jeff McGinnis.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Jeff McGinnis. They didn't have a single player for five
six years. That's fair, all right, listen, I'm asking the question.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
No, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
I'm just saying, set the man up with have some
people that can go in there hold him accountable. I
want to make the poll though, so he's never had it.
Does LaMelo play winning basketball? I think it's a good poll.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
All right, I'm not saying y'all wrong. I said, I
just want to see what the chat things. That's it.
Let's talk about Atlanta Field sent me this two days ago.
We didn't have any time to talk about. The Hawks
have the second best defensive rating when Trey Young does
not play. I've heard multiple times that we are two
way players here. We talked about how Trey Young is
so good, but they are way better defensively and they

(01:25:58):
will six I first five and one in the last
couple of games he's been up. Let's talk about it.
You like players steal.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Where's there to talk about? Proof is in the pudding?
He fucked, He's gotta go. No, it's the truth. It's
the truth. I mean, they didn't give him an extension
is everything. I mean, it's it's showing we can't win
with you. We haven't won with you, but that one
time we made that run. Haven't seen it since we're

(01:26:29):
better without you. We see that. Now we got another
guy that we could put on, possibly become a franchise
guy when Jayleen or j Johnson, he's hooping. He made
the r Star Game this year. Trey is gone. Trey
is gone. They didn't give him an extension. So that
told me. They told me everything right there, told me

(01:26:52):
he didn't get his extension. So they trying to move
on from you, and they got out who I like.
Clu plays on both ends. That Alexander kid, and he
got Dice and Daniels who plays on both ends. These
are young guys that you can build around.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
It's over for him.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
I'm just telling you. They just had the number one
pick two years ago. He's balling. He is balling, is
over for trade. Trade is a great player. Somebody can
use him. Go ahead, let him go. Just go ahead,
let him go. There's none of us to talk about.
You said everything. They five and one without him, They
got the second best defense in the fucking league. What

(01:27:30):
are we talking about? They got the second best defense
in the league. And uh, what's their coach name? Again?

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Snider offense is a great offensive savant. So it's it's
it's unfortunate for Trey. It has not worked out for him.
The injury might have been the worst thing that could
have happened right now, because now they see what it's
like with him actually not being there. Because you couldn't
you couldn't not play him, you know, what I'm saying.

(01:27:56):
So now that he's not playing and you see it,
you're like, okay, we have something here, right, So let's
get him healthy and let's put him on the trade blocks.
He's getting traded.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
I don't mind this trade.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
I don't know if he ever come back. I don't
know if he comes back. I don't know if he
comes back.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Now, he'll come back.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
He gotta come back.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
It's stock if he says the whole season.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
I'm talking about that, he's not even supposed to be
out the whole season. Get him healthy and just go
and let him go.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Is he supposed to be oil the whole season?

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
No, no, he said he's not supposed to say. He's
not supposed to. I'm with you, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
I don't mind trade for Fox. I don't think that
the Spurts do that. But that's a straight swap wed.
We can cover a lot of his weaknesses. This team
likes to get up and down the court with Daron.
I don't like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
I don't mind that somebody said something that somebody sat
up there. When how long do you stay with Fox?
When you got Castle and Harper? It's a valid point.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I like dling Harper.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
I like doing like him and Castle. I like both
of them. Just what have a funk he had? He's
a player.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
He's a one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Yeah, has to be one. They've been playing them at
the one. Yeah, he's one. He's a facilitator, bro, he's
been You can have a playmaker, san Antonio. Gotta make
a gotta gotta make a choice.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Dylan Harper, and you can swap them both out. They're
both six six, like they can play one two together.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
I'm either going I'm either going trade of Milwaukee trader
Phoenix and traded Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Milwaukee could use trade for possibly Orlando.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
I don't like him and I don't like him in Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Why they need a play guard?

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
I just think they get a lot they had Colin Gillespie.
We're gonna play the clips a little bit. I just
think they get a lot worse defensively. I think Phoenix
just needs to find Like, I just only trade the
right fit for Phoenix. I'm not saying he won't help them.
I just I would prefer they're going a different direction.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
I like, I like trading Phoenix, Trey Young, Devin Booker,
Dylan Brooks. Like right now it's Royce O'Neil, and then
they got bigs Mark Williams and I liked Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Boston that's worse.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
I like traded Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Why why they switch everything?

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
You don't make a good point. Defensively, they're really good
because they can switch everything.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Because I like what he can do for the off
plays defense. I like what he can do for the office.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
That's what I like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
What they can do from offensive to Boston. Yeah, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Tradeing Milwaukee is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
I don't know where you can send him at Milwaukee
Milwaukee or Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
Milwaukee you have Giannis and Miles behind you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
Milwaukee Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Yeah, I don't mind him in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
I said that before because I think him which it
needs a.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Different Darius and and and maybe Jared. I think that
makes you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Think, yeah, it could be even swap.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
No, I think you got to give a little bit
more up and then or you gotta give at least
a couple of picks.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Wow, they both they both All Stars.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Darious Garland to trade Young the resumes?

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
What resumes? What this the resume?

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Multiple time All Star?

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
They had two theres have has one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Darius has also appears.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Yes, no, he has one in Cleveland. When they had
it in Cleveland, he was.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
At Yes, he's a two time All Star. Similar what
I told you. The playoffs evens even swap, Yeah, y'all
might be right. Y'all want something even swap maybe a pick.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
I do. Then they don't win with that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
We can have a conversation, all right, We have a
conversation because Trey is Trey is proven in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Proven.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
That's something that I don't worry about Trey coming to
the party. You get Trey and Don well, you can
you find a way to keep Mobley and j A
and DeAndre Hunter.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
It's nasty defensively from the one too, though.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
I don't care. You got the two bigs. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
No, you guys are right. But also the two bigs
can be everywhere every time in the mid and cook him.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
But that's why you got the two twin towels back
there behind you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
You can definitely gonna have to make some adjustments. But
Kenny Atkins is a good so we'll see what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
He'd be alright.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Let's talk about the Suns. Devin Booker and the Suns.
You know, we didn't expect them to be ninety six.
They've been playing well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
With Devin Booker man, Devin Booker is frying people.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
The team looks good.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Dylan Brooks is frying people. Hey, they got a lot
of confidence over there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Is a twenty bro a dub and they they just
I mean, this is kind of what There's two things
I want to talk about. A Field mentioned it. With
the Lakers, they just get to play more free, right, Yeah,
you don't have Katie and Brad. You have to get
the water. If you watch them, guys are launching up shots,
they're making plays, even calling Gillespie when we get to it,

(01:32:47):
he was cooking yesterday. Like when that's him right there
shooting off the three dribble, you're probably not getting that
shot if you're playing with Katie and Brad, Right, yeah,
do you all think obviously this team, I don't think
this team does noise, makes noise in the playoffs. But
you know, losing Katie and Bride, that was a I
guess addition by.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Subtraction, they're in a good place. They're in a good
place where you can you can sort of start building something.
They're they're they're developing identity, and that's something you can't
take away from Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Everywhere he's gone, they win.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
He has he has built the identity with that team
that we're gonna be tough and you're gonna have to
fight us every single night.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
He's a culture changer.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
When he Memphis, Memphis ain't been the same since he
left Houston. They weren't winning when Dylan Brooks got there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
What happened? They started being tougher. There was number two
team in the damn West. Now he went to Phoenix winning.
Shout out to Dylan Brooks is a winner bro on
both ends. He brings toughness. When he left Memphis, Memphis
lost their toughness. They lost their dog. They said, behind

(01:33:59):
him of Kobe and run our test. I can't really
say they don't. Devin Booker is on a fucking tear.
He is on a tear.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
He's on a tear, and Devin Booker is reminding everybody. No,
for sure, Devin Booker is on a tear.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
He's like y'all know, because a lot of people weren't
putting him, including us exactly, including us put him as
one of the top two guards in his league. I
know I might have been Charlie. It was somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
I'm just happy for him because he's able to remind
everybody that I'm great, Katie, I'm great.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Y'all were talking about me as being They're like, we
don't know if Devin Booker before, we don't know if
Devin Booker can be the one I'm like.

Speaker 5 (01:34:45):
What he was.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
I'm gonna be honest with you. It's an argument again
of him and man, who's the best to go. It's
an argument and defensively. So you see, did you your
favorite coach your favorite coach?

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
And I did, But that's not the Olympics. Your favorite
coach is not the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Killer bro.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
He can play the defense doesn't mean he plays it
as regular.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Devin Booker is a killer man. Listen, bro. I also think,
say what you want to say about that man. That man.
You're saying it's a landslide.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
I'm not saying it's a landslide the way you be.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
It's not close.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Did I say it's not close? I just said no,
I have ant over him. I said to me, I
still have ant over him. It wasn't close.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
That's your opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
I still better than Dawn. That's where I say he's
better than Dawn and you guys said no, or I
want to say you guy said no, but that was
an argument we had.

Speaker 7 (01:35:33):
You know you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
All of them is a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
But I have Book over Dawn. That's what I'm saying.
Book is probably two for me. Book is cold as hell,
Book cold, Book is cold.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
If we've been honest, Book and got further than all
of them, for sure, Book Book Book went to the finals.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Book is. Book is a killer, Bro. I love Book.
Book is a killer.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Look.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
I don't know highlights Brook crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
He's the first one who has seventy. Don got it
after him? He has seventy first.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
I just make sure in.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
Hoston I'm happy for him, man, because this dude, this
dude has is. It's early, of course, but the way
he's taking on this league right now and attacking everybody,
I'm just glad he reminded everybody how great he is.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Lewis, that's a great point. At has spots this year.
If you watch a play this year, he looks poised,
slow down and different.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
I just like how he's Everybody forgets, Bro. Everybody seems
to forget about what Book did and what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
So I ain't forgot about your book. You're still a killer.
You still You're still one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
Let's get to let's get to the next topic. Uh,
this is a very nasty picture. Can we pull up
the NDC's picture.

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
Know what?

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
This is one of the MVP and the best team
in the league. Pull up to New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
That is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
The MVP and the best team in the league. That
is nasty. We have to talk about it. I know
you guys don't want to smoke with New Orleans. A
lot of players have said the place is cursed. We
can pull down the picture. Is it time to move
on from New Orleans? And Vegas? Seattle, Vancouver? That's nasty

(01:37:30):
even potentially like Memphis, Memphis is twelve dollars tickets. I
think their tickets are in the single digit. Memphis was
two dollar tickets at one point.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Las Vegas pelicans a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
They're probably gonna change the name.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
I'm gonna be Las Vegas. What I love? No idea
New Orleans great city. Oo unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
We got the graphic, by the way at.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Them, something or something has to something has to change.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Like it's to that point where you can't really blamed
the players either, because it's like, damn, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Look are we we're warming up?

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Bro, Seattle's a basketball city, like this is.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
This is tough to see. Did you see all them seats?
That's bro that that was the whole upper bowl we
could all walk in, Like, go ahead, bro, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
This is not This is not Charlotte versus New Orleans.
This is the m v P.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Man, their seats are not like that in Charlotte. Charlotte
not winning either, but you won't see the upper bowl. Arlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
Charlotte's not a big draw though. I'm saying, if New
Orleans pulled up, Charlotte polked New Orleans, I get if
the seats were empty. This is the envy p pulling up.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
To your city, the defending champs. Yeah, they said the
pick was taken at the end of the third quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
I'm sure it looks like that a decent amount of times.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
No, I'm be honest. I was there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
I ain't been in the least for like two years now.
It was still like that, and the team is asked
and they definitely not gonna show up.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
So it's a Seattle's a basketball market. There's when the
Stormer there was rocking you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Put an NBA team in Vegas to be rocking, it'll
be stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
I think if you put one back in vacum.

Speaker 8 (01:39:11):
Session in Vegas ission. Oh yeah, I heard about that.
I heard about that too. Yeah, you were telling actually
heard from you. You're telling us, I did. That's gonna
be you tell us to Vegas at UYL.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
This is I don't know, bro, they gotta do something.
We got we got to take to the Vegas that
week in fact, because I gotta be there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
I think I shouldn't break time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Huh. We don't break at that time.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
We break on that time July in middle July. Break. Yeah,
just so y'all know. Oh yeah, I gotta tell y'alls. Well,
make sure you guys hit our discord. Adam people the discord.
I'm gonna send the playback link as well. We will
be taking a break. Uh, December twenty fourth to January
fourth will be on break. We'll be back on the
fifth our last streams on December twenty third, just so everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Knows, and clearly we won't be here on thanks we'll talk.
We won't be are we doing Thanksgiving? That's why I
was about that show.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
We talk off but we.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Ain't gonna be here on Thanksgiving, Sambo saying, I don't
know about that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
We'll be here Monday through Wednesday. Thursday, I will be
eating some good food.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
Thursday. Yeah, they're gonna be cooking in the house. I
don't know if I can live list stream.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
We should do one streaming game on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
I would I wouldn't get on. I wouldn't. I wouldn't
getting games showing you what they cooking. And I don't
know about streaming no game, no, no, no, I can't
do that. I'm talking about football. I'm talking about we
can get on and I can. I can show you
all the what they make it when they cooking in
the crib.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
Down we got We're the type of the w M
B A c B A after this. But let's answer
some questions. Did Westbrook make okay?

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
You talking a lot of ship about Westbrook, Doctor, I
ain't going to answer that question.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
But you've got Danny Grainger and Michael my career.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
Danny Grainger for me, I got my red I got
so cold two way player who Danny Grange was good,
but Michelrea had a better, better career. I think I'm
talking to roll the ball up.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Mikerell was a bucket bro and Danny Grainger was in
his prime. I get that, but Mikeren was cold.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Danny Grangers was also a leade defender to was he not?
Michael Red was not.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Mikerel was on the USA team. Mike Reil was an
All Star.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
As a shooter, though he was played for He was
a bucket getting.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
In Milwaukee, Bro. That's fair, right, this is for us.
Better score Joe Barry and Marcus Page Marcus page page score.
I would go Marcus.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
Shooter is probably Joel though right your shooter. Marcus was
a shooter that left I feel like Joe was a sniper.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Joel was a Joe Joe to shoot. I love Joe.
Joe was a Joe was a dog. I would go
Marcus down Mars.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Both your team.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Marcus is a better score.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Granger's body, Michael Red, We're not talking about one v
one basketball. We're talking about more like just roll the
ball five on fivey five. But no, that Michael Red
was cold. But I think you'd be twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Ten question everyone, especially my younger years, who would you
put best with? Playing the school? Luca Kawhi changed my game.
K S G a Harden I think for me it's.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
A Luca Harden Kawhi.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Playing with pace for everyone in order, who who would
you put the best with playing with pace? Yr Kiche
probably didn't A hard hard hardy used to play a

(01:42:35):
little fast.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
But Luka please at his own police too, though, I.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Think this is that's that's hard. They said, ad to
the Richmond oilers, stop.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
Rich what rich.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Kadie Anderson or Rod Strickland. That's a tough one. Rod
Strickland is so that's my old g. I'm going.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
Strict Strickland is cold, Bro, that's Kyrie's gone father, Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Rod Strickland was on issue. Katy Anderson was too, though.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
I'm the Marcus are Kevin.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
Love twenty squad? Marcus? Who they picked between.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Martin Marcus Alrich twenty five and fourteen?

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Man Marcus, I was just killing. Both of them are killers? Yeah,
who would you pick?

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
Kevin Love? Prom Kevin Love was like twenty five and fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Marcus was a killer right.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
Now, Minnesota. Kevin Love different, I know he was.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
But I got to go to Marcus Ouche. I'm sorry,
I might have to go to l A. L A
was cold boy, LA is cold for sure. I also
don't like La like that. You know you're from here, right, No,
I know that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
But because he didn't want to go to Toronto apparently,
oh you know, don't you don't like Toronto? What that matters?
I don't like the Raptors. I love my city, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
So he didn't want to go to Toronto and.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
Wanted to play in the city. That's all right. So
still the team Texas is the same, That's fair. This
man grew up in Someone said someone saying, and fun
with North Carolina. And there's two players. You probably pick
the person that said North Carolina to Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
I ain't mad at Kobe. You love Kobe today, You're
not me. See, there you go. He always come back with.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
Listen, you always come back to robutto every time. Get
the hell out of there. Over your hong tripping. I'm
not with y'all. Appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
John wall Of Prime, Russell Westbro.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
Prime, Ross Prime, Russ Triple double.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
No, no, No.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
I love Russ, you know that. I love I love
John too, though John Cole his hell Crime Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
That's tough. But I gotta go with Russ. I gotta
go with Russ. Gotta go. That's John was special though.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
We're gonna talk about We're gonna answer some more questions.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
The same since he left. No, they have not. Wizards
had been the same since he lived.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
I mean when when they swapped out John and Ross
they went to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Yeah, I know to say they ain't been the same
since since. No, since John left.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
But they had a good year with Ross. That was
one year, but then Russ left exactly exactly. I'm with y'all.
Let's talk about the w NBA negotiations. Let's up.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Current CBO max salary, one point one minimum salary.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
We're gonna answer the questions after this, the last question.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Four hundred and sixty K.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
I think that's a fair proposal. That's just my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
From what it was. Yes, it's growth, and I think
if you got growth, you can go from there. You
know what I'm saying. Like, I don't know how many
years they would have to agree to this for, but yes,
I think this is good for the girls. They're making
millions millions of dollars now in their salary, which they deserve.

(01:45:49):
But once again, they have to understand that they're trying
to get more money. But you'll still got to continue
to bring in more revenue. And I think with the
number going up, this is good for them. I'm happy
for them, and I think I can't tell them what
to do. And they're supposed to negotiate. They supposed to
fight for more. That's a part of negotiations. But that's
that's that's a good that's a good spot. It's a

(01:46:10):
good spot for them.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Sure, I'm taking that deal.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
I mean, like I said, we don't know all the
logistics of it. We don't know everything, but from what
we all do know, I personally like where that is.
It's growth.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
What was the minimum this year to seventy five?

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
I think seventy five to two twenty, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
But the average is four to sixty. I think the
allergy that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Huge jump everything because you got to understand, and I
mean the great players are like, bro, damn, like I'm
worth more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
Duh. We we we know that you are.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
But at the same time, it's just like with any business,
you got to start somewhere, right the growth is here,
you've proved, you're proven your worth because they're like, we
gotta really, we gotta really start paying. These girls are
we're gonna lose them. Yeah, so this is part of it.
And now continue to do what you're doing to continue

(01:47:10):
to show growth, and that number will only go up.
I mean, I'm sure ray y'all would want the CBA
to be where it is now, But y'all had to
y'all had to go through. Oh god, I wish it would.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
Have you imagine, could you imagine what it was like?

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Would would have made what.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
Oh eighty on that deal for New York three years?

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
So much I was the starting guy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Three three year. You got a three year starter account
contract right from New York. That's about twenty five to
thirty a year three years. I know we quit it,
so it's not eighty to ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
I would have been more than three got a four
five years, for sure, he would have got that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
I was a quitting wron thirty million a year, That's
what I was looking at. My he would have got
that that New York deal if if you, if you
brought in today's.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
I would have took with fan got I would have
took that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Yeah, one twenty over three years.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
I would have took that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
I would just say, like the biggest thing with this
is that you know, if you times four, that means
they're gonna have four times the salary. Obviously, now they're
playing for chartered flights, expenses are going up, and as
any business expenses go up, you got to make more money,
which they will with the new TV deal, new teams,
new teams. Biggest thing for everybody that everybody said here
is you got to start somewhere. And that's a good
start in our opinion, not saying that it's it's fair,

(01:48:22):
not saying that's what you guys deserve. I think it's
just a fair start. It's where you should start. The
WM should be played during the men season. I don't
know about that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
No, they can't pay.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
I think it's good the way it is, but also too, like,
let's just be real. They only play forty five games,
which is more than what they started it, right, Yeah,
but I'm saying they only play forty five games. I
think they're staying there. I could be wrong. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
We're added more teams. I feel like you got I
think they should go up to at least sixty.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
Oh no, I don't think it is. It doesn't there's
nothing reported based online.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
Three five games with more teams. They already was saying
stuff about the travel last year. Yeah, now it's gonna be.
I think you have to you gotta go to Toronto,
you gotta go to Cleveland. Now, ain't one more team
that got added?

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
No, it's uh Toronto now. But Toronto is the only
team that's be even playing in twenty six. I think
those teams will be twenty seven. Like Toronto's the only
new team to open up in twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
Oh, Cleveland's not a new team this year.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
I think Cleveland will be twenty seven if I remember correctly,
because I think it takes about a year and a
half after you claim a franchise to get everything ready.
But like you know, you have players like so to
complain about the travel though back to backs, right, So
I'm not with that Ak. That's just racists. Hell, I
didn't even watch Lin Sanity like that. That shit racists.

Speaker 5 (01:49:42):
Hell.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
You want to see a funny video, though, I got
a funny video for you.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
They said, uh, AK forty seven, Lamar Who's AK forty seven?
Carolinko or Lamar who?

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
Lamar odom.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Lamar Oldham? Yeah, Lamar Oldham, lamar odom.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Car Linka was a motherfucker on the jazz. But I
got Lamar too.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
Old Lamar for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Oh my god, I'm gonna see if we get this video.
This is hilarious, is how what is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
You got a YouTube video? What is ant Man top
ten in the league? Yes, yes, yes, I think that
is pretty evident. I don't see any anybody debating Lamar odam.
I mean, Anthony ever's being top ten in the league.

(01:50:36):
How much you averaging right now? And man, you gotta
be about twenty eight?

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Is this that much.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Bore?

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
The market is down right now. Big coin has been
down forty. Heman averaging twenty five He averaging twenty five, three.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
And four.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
Julius is averaging twenty four seven and six. Oh boy,
you've been bolling this year. Twenty four seven and six
is all Star numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
Yeah, he's been batting. Julius is averaging twenty four seven
to six. That all star numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
Twenty four, seven and six is also but it's in
the West.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
But it's in the West, so he about to get snubbed.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
You get snubbed when it's twenty four seven and six
not enough? Actually, I mean they're not that high. Of
a seed this early, It is early.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
We'll see it they all later. Is Julius Randall all star?
Chack y'all? Let me know, twenty four, seven and six
is pretty good fucking numbers to me.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
The boy look good Julius Rando, Yeah, Julius Rynold's a hooper, bro.
He looks good with Minnesota. Told y'all, Juju will be
all NBA. Do you think the Big Ten Conference isn't
talked abut enough? I feel like been Big Ten guards
always doesn't get love like the Big East and acc uh,
that's a good question.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
Big Ten just be playing football. That's my thing about
watching them games. They just be hit, just be running
over each other. City Josh Smith two point zero.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
That's not even close. Josh Smith was a high flyer
and a defensive player.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
You can pass. I need, I need to hit up
j R. Trying to get JR on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
Hey, we love that Jerry on the show. Hey all,
we got we got d will tomorrow, the Wills in
the building tomorrow. It's gonna be let any last loss
before we sign off, gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
And hey, look, we appreciate everybody in the chat. We
appreciate the love uh, shout out the CV, Shout out
the CV CV that next week, V do you will
to be here tomorrow? Y'all know me, Ray and Hang
gonna be here tomorrow, getting it done, getting to the baja.
We appreciate the love and the chat and uh listen,
go heels first and foremost.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
And and uh got anything else? I can't think of that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
No, he keeps asking me D d R Guitar Hero.
I don't play either of those games, so Tenzen, I
can't answer that question for you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Guitar Hero, Guitar Hero, you do like you play guitar.

Speaker 1 (01:53:11):
He guitar right, you think about it? Think about it?
You know me when you asked me what games you play?
What I tell you I'm a computer gamer.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Yeah, play guitar Hero.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
You see what games I play?

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
No, I know, I know you're talking about the day
like you put your hair your hair back was just
like that Guitar Hero.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
That's crazy. Guitar Hero is crazy, right. You know, I
actually never had Guitar Hero once in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
I believe you never the guitar believe you've never played it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
I might have played it once because it was a
friends gathering at a Christmas party.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Why you tell your head frods.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Oh, I'm gona turn my head backwards.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
I t dr before that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Let's answer this before we get out here. Uh, KG,
You're honest? Who KG? G? I'm going KG. It's not
that easy, But.

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
I gotta I gotta write with my South Atlanta guy.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
Are you talking about roll the ball out? Because one
of them is a lot more skilled.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
KG is more skilled. Now, KG is definitely more skilled.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
Oh, Darius, I definitely played the Sims. That game is lit.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
Damn. Wait a minute, bro, what's up? N Yeah, he's dominant,
but KG was KG was this? Hey you shoot?

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
We talking about KG?

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Bro, here's the thing. This is what I'll say. You said.
If you roll the ball, you're taking KG over Tim Duncan.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Taking a mortar Kombat motor combat?

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
Motor Kombat for sure?

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
More combat Mortal Kombats for me is number one, even
over Street f you have Street for original.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
I might say Yiannis won a championship on his team.
KG had to join the team.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
Why are we acting like KG didn't have a Big three?
I mean, John didn't have a big three as well, Jude,
you holding Chris Middleton are big three as well. We're
not gonna act like Johnas didn't have a They Ray
and Paul Fierce though, and the and the time of
the career. Yes, Ray and Paul Pierce were definitely slown down.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
So you would say Chris Middleton's in I think they
a little bit. You would say Chris Middleton is in
the same Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
I can't do that. But I would say Paul Pierson
think we're a little bit older. That's all. I'm the
same reality. Chris Middleton was like twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
Ray Allen might have been the best shoot in the league. No,
he is the best shoot in the league at that time.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
But no, I mean, I don't know. K KG to
me is one of the best part for us all time.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
Agree, I'm not saying he's not bro I don't. I don't,
I don't know. That's tough. Giannis is very dominant.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
Yeah, but I'm rolling with Ray.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
I'm gonna i'd be different.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
All right. Last thing we'll answer. Okay, guys, what is
the best video game franchise of all time? Me and
Ray and Charlie had a debate about this. What is
the most popular video game franchise of all time? I
said Pokemon. It's not my favorite, but I said, that
is the most popular franchise of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
Yes, Bro, they sold the most units. I guarantee you
units and ship and sixty four golden. I that game
was elite.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
That was an elite game.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
They laughed at me when I said Super Smash Bros.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
G t A is the best game ever created, card.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
Matage g t A. G t A is the best game.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
Is the best game ever created?

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Close, best game ever created? Counter Strike, no second.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
I don't even know what the hell that is g
t A for me, But Grando was like the best legends.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Those are the two best games to live.

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
You're literally living a life through a video game. You
really a legit life. You can be who you want
to You can be who you want to be on
that game. You can't do that on anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
There's other games like that, like what there's other games
like that?

Speaker 5 (01:57:08):
Like what?

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
I have to think about it, exactly think about it. No, no, thiss,
It is definitely the best. Sims. Sims was the laite
you're gonna tell me?

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
Simpsons was in the least g t A though.

Speaker 5 (01:57:19):
Not g t A.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
But I'm saying that was the first game that they
got girlsking on g t A.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
You can go to the script to the strip club.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
Why acting like Sims isn't It wasn't a fun game, bro,
it ain't g t A. I'm not saying g t A.
You said you can You can't pick a game and
be somebody else. I said the Sims you can be yourself. Okay,
that's all I saying. G t is a lead. I'm
not gonna say it's.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
The g t A for me. I'm not gonna hold
you g t A. G t A is my favorite
game ever.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
Call of Duty is trash now by no, it's not
Call Duty.

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
Ask not going to disrespect trash you every day.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
You know, call douty players cannot come plain counterstrack?

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
What Call of Duty players cannot fuck with us? In counterstris?

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
You really think you sweep this video? You really thinks
he's thinking's sweet?

Speaker 1 (01:58:01):
Don't you counter? It's way harder than Yeah. What I'm
saying is.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
That calling off the video game Call of Duty, we
can get to range range?

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
Can I can I explain to you the difference call
of Duty. It's like playing on arcade mode in two
K Counterstrack is playing simulation where it is actually real
one bullet kills.

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
That's what y'all should do. Y'all should run. Y'all should
run it. In the chat, ya should get some people.
Look at Adam right, let's writ it, Ray, Let's run it.
Then Adam says he's nice. Adam say he's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
You know what I'll be. I'll be willing to put
my game name up here, yo, y'all can we can
play online?

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
We should? We could do.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Listen, listen, I'm moving. I'm moving. I'm moving into my
new crib. When I give my stuff set up, I
will play with y'all one night once a week after
the game. After Thanksgiving week. We can get everybody, give
y'all my name, yeah, and we can get on this
ship at night. You can get on the Color. We
can have our own group. You can play. You can play,
call play Call of Duty.

Speaker 1 (01:59:06):
I'm a real gamer, Counter Striking valid only on shooter.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
That's another episod. That's another episode. We're gonna him out,
love man, love y'all to death.

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
We'll be here at the same time tomorrow eleven to
one with d one other two Easter time. We'll be
here with de Wale tomorrow. We have a fourth person.
We appreciate the love. We out of here peace,

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