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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, always go.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're back in the building to the Baha. I'm excited, man,
we haven't been. It's been four days off. Man, you
know the work week. Couldn't wait for the work week
to come back up. We got Raymond Felton in the building.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Ray walked into the building. He's all one today people.
We got CV in the building here.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm here investigating some Ray felt in his gambling scheme.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Hey man, this is Charlie. Never never ceases to let
go of the Ray jokes.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Were partner now now I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
And we obviously got THEO Pinson in the building as well.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Good yesterday, but we always repping.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I thought you're only wearing that when you win.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I thought not.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
But I just wanted to come out when we ain't
want a long time I might there with you. So
I wanted to come out here and still some support
from my team just because respected It's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm one of these days, even though I'm not a fan.
But yo, listen anyways, big shout to everybody in the chat.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Did he say a Jay's jersey? I did say that
this guy, bro, I don't know, yo. You know what,
I realized that you introduce everyone, But who introduces you?
Nobody needs to introduce me to introduce your show. I'm
good good should you should? Though, I'm sure people don't
know who you are. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
They don't need to know who I am. But you
want to come to I'm a confimentary piece.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
No, you're not, You're part of you want to.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Anyway, Let's move on. Let's get some show.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
We got hoodie home, you got homes baby yeah, baby
boys boys kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Crazy, yeah, they'd be. You know, our team be calling
Peter Peter now right because of the clip.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
He is freaking pee. That's the algorithm.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Mohamed Hongle, somebody call you Mohammed's hole is tough?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Juhn, Ricky Tan. What else do you guys want to
go with? All right, let's get some shoutout.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
We need to introduce you from here on out. Game guys.
That's not to you. No, no, introduce you to boy
Hong Kong he.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
No, I'm cool anyways.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Don't mayo ma, I'm rolling.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
All right, let me get some shout outs. Obviously a big,
a big shout out to La Las in the CHATCI
Sack appreciate you Sonato, mister crabs forward, we see you,
crazy petty league. We got your boy hands back in
the building. I gotta give her a shadow. What's what's
wrong with what love? I love that before you bro,
you deserve it. That Macho James Suave Entertainment.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
We see y'all.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Appreciate y'all tapping in. Were definitely gonna give some more.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
G RALPHO.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Obviously we saw a big bank earlier. Shout out to
big bank, O, g why are we dying for?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Charlie got the homer ones them, Darius, I'm so confused.
Shout out to.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
You the shelter Real jet come.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Somebody said, hey, by the before we get to anything,
because obviously we had a big, big shelter oasist and Calhi.
But before we get to that panda, that's that's that's
the trash. Hey, Macho wants some bread off of Calshi.
That's what's up.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Shout out to Mato, to Macho, I did to Macho man,
I got clipped yesterday, got clipped and guess who I picked?
I want some Who's my money for what you're doing?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Money for this game? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Toronto Torontoakers Hey there, you're gonna see he's ready. He's
always already. Craig got a go ahead and get that
hold on, lady, I keep money, now, keep money, Bring
me my money. You're a good man. Man. I don't

(04:21):
like Charlie by the way.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
He's he's made.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Off the show. He's definitely I'm gonna put this in
the country. He gave me some money though, so it's
all right. You did get it back. Get it back, man,
I'm gonna get it back. Race credit. But listen to
who excellent.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Bet one hundred dollars this weekend on the game I traded.
I mean I traded. I traded on the game one
hundred dollars on Indiana beating Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's why, man, you didn't think they was gonna win.
Toronto beating Lakers and got clipped.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
But you bae better on the Lakers here, Yeah, with
this guy.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
To get your money back for that crazy Toronto.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
My fault, Yes, Toronto who played Lakers, who like the Celtics,
they just played the Sixers.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
My fault at the Sixers beating. So they played the
Sixers yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
They played the Celtics on Friday, and they played the Raptors.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
No, it was the Sixers. I had the Sixers beating
uh Lakers. Off topic.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
But speaking of the Celtics, we don't get there.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Get the first off shelt to Calshi to the Baha
is presented by Calshi.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
We've been having a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think the new thing you guys gotta understand is
you gotta put money up on your favorite teams, your events.
Elections available in all fifty states, and y'all, yeah, y'all
should be. Y'all should trade against us. Put your money
up against us.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
You can. You can take deals money. That's easy work.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Charlie has been doing that the whole show money taking money.
Y'all gotta hit Calshi. Use promo code with no gun.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
This is how she sponsored second and all this guy's
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(06:26):
use it and help support the show man, please please,
and thank you. I didn't study Ekon to use Calshi Hong,
but it was interesting using it. Yeah, man, Cow, she's
a lot of fun. And shout out to you for
studying Econ. But I got I got some beef in
the chat.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
She is the youngest female bellionaire.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Appreciate you, Burn. Yeah, she's the youngest self made billion
She beat Taylor Swift and Lucy Goog Lucy. I think
she's twenty nine. Yeah, somewhere around there, Scotti. Shout out
to Scotty, we appreciate you tapping in. Shout to Burton too,
all you talk ship. Shout to Burton. We got some
beef to dress in the chat though, Real Jet, I
know you saw my comment on YouTube. This guy said

(07:01):
someone says that we're gonna be the best podcast. He's like, relax,
they ain't gonna catch that five to twenty. I'm paraphrasing that.
He's always here too. I thought the Real Jet was.
I was part of the home team. What's with you, bro?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I think we're gonna stay in the lane and we're
gonna focus on us. We're gonna about five twenty though
they're doing anything. Yes, sir, shout to Real Jet too.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I know he's here.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
All the time too. But appreciate you. But let's get
into it. Man, Desmond bade kind of out of pocket.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Run the clip. I'm rolling, you're rolling.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, that's a legal way to throw the ball at somebody.
That is absolutely hilarious. That's hilarious. That's a legal way
to throw, a legal way to man. I'm getting up.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
We gotta fight. Yeah, fucking push that. I agree with you.
I would have ever cut that, Nigga. I am very
disappointed in, O G. Oh, Jesus, I am beyond disappointing,
O G.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I get that fact that that happens to you. You
just sit there and he blatantly threw it and he
wasn't even like falling out of bounds, and that that
was hilariously just called.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
The you're swinging on somebody, surprise.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I am liable to swinging somebody? Did he? Is he
gonna get fined for that? I don't know. I don't care.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
I don't think he should. But just with the league now,
you never know. Can we play the clip again? Peter here,
fucking Pete trying.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
To fix the camera. YO.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Supposedly they were playing basketball this weekend. I don't know
if Peter did Kurt was killing.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
We need some footage. Look at all his teammates confused
to sit. He like, Bro, what the fuck? Why hard
hit him? Damn ball?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
It literally looked like he was playing dollgeball, though I.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Don't think that. What did O G do?

Speaker 4 (08:58):
It had to be something early in the game and
the pistol ball. He must have didn't get a call
or something. It's like the ship question.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
He is dodgeball the most elite like gym class game.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Elite. Oh man, I was elite dodgeball. I'm trying to
hit you.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
I'm trying to hit your radio face and they ain't
trying to hit nobody parts. I'm trying to hit your
radio face. No, no cat el game.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I wonder if they say loud that in Schools's pretty
wid Yeah, yeah, sure, I caught somebody slipping badly. That
was That was I got suspended for.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's how you're working. I feel like you've been suspend
a couple of eight times, damn times. He was a
fucking progress. Got a lot of ash whoopings to Bro, Yeah,
I did, for sure, one hundred. We got a lot
of demons. Eight. You've been suspended eight times, probably seven
or eight. Yeah, that's crazy. That's what I'm saying. Bro.

(09:52):
The chat eight times is crazy.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
You know that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's a bad kidd kid. I was back kad so
the time. In dodgeballs, I hated my teacher.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Youre right, she played You hit the No, she was playing.
She was playing right, she was playing.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
She was playing. She was a woman. You hit her.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
She was she was she was athletic, she played sports.
You're playing dodgeball. We're in it. She got a good arm.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
You got suspended for hitting her in the head because
she fell down.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I hit her in the head and then I threw
it very hard around her general area. But I try
to hit her stomach.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
You didn't hit her in the crotch. Yes, you got
You have bad I was.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
In grade seven, Yes, I was in grade seven.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I was Have you been suspended twice in one year? Yeah?
I got kicked out of school. Oh you got kick
it's just getting worse. You's a crash outshout boy, were
asking questions. I was a crash they call young morent
I was. It was never that while we were so

(10:52):
mad all the time. Hong Marente is crazy. They call
you home marent.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
No, But seriously, I was a crash as a kid.
I was a crash out as a kid.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
For sure. You said nigga for sure as a kid,
you don't crush down a few pause. I told you
they called me one the other day.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I said on the song, I've said, I never said it.
If you said on the song you but I said
that before on air, I said.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
First ten minutes of every episode every show, Hong Therapy.
We're gonna let him talk.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, Hong Therapy.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Dog, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Why did you hear it in the crowd.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I tried to hear in the stomach. I tried to
hear in the stomach.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Though. Hey, look, everybody is convinced you said nigga before.
So I been a bad kid.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Point is as I got. I got kicked out of school. Yeah,
I was a back kid. I was definitely a back kid.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And watching Asian, they definitely say, nigga, we cleaned it up.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I went to university. I might agree, clean it up,
cleaned it up together. Look at you now, you're in
the couch. Still look at you, bro, You don't come
on wrong way watching.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
She was a hater, they said, Dad, Yeah, she was
a hater.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
That's why. Oh so you did them? Also? It was
intent purpose. It is in purpose for sure, nigga, you
guys spend eight times.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
She hated no, no, So the story is that my
cousin was oldering me two years he got to wear
lawn John's in gym class and I tried the same
ship just because I didn't like her, and she she
sent me home for that day. So then I'm all right, dodgeball,
all right, we go see what's up.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
You got a bat, I got my so you get your.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Suspend it for that or set home because she thought
I was joking around, but my cousin did and it
was cool. Two years before, over some long jobs, I
just was testing out to see if she would treat
me equally everybody else.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
But she didn't. That was it.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Let's be petty. But anyways, let's move on. Let's get
to the show.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
All right. She's a great start. Hey man, it's a
great start. We find out.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Listen, I'm not going to show the thing, but I
will show you guys some of my suspension letters when.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I bring them. Eight times. We need crazy, all right, man,
lets let's bring up.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Let's bring up the Calshi Graphic shout to Calshi NBA
Cup winners.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
This is a no brainer. There's a no brainer.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
You need a rock.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Everybody is unanimous. Okay, see getting a dub.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
They gonna win.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's not a bad payo too. You put one hundred
and fifty seven bucks in, get a hundred back.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's not bad payout. That's not bad. That's almost guaranteed money.
I would say, I'm rolling.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I mean, you got no choice. And they walk and
they lost that ship last year. They don't want to
do that again. They are walking through the league right now.
They beating They didn't even play and they won last
night by twenty something. Beat the hell out of them
Utah in Utah. Yeah, listen, Okay, see I'm telling you
you fuck you're good. They might lose seven games.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
So maybe seven games. No, there's no maybe, it's no way.
There's no way way.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
You said losing more games after also break, That's just
what it is. Rest players, you get ready for.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I don't care who they risk.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
They still got six and a half. Let's bet it
right now, eight and a half, six and a half
and a half, eight and a half and a half,
seven and a half, sorry and a half, seven and
a half, eight and a half. Does that means they
can lose nine games? So is it seven or nine?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I like that eight and a half?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Is it seven or nine? I can see them losing eight.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
They'll lose, they'll lose less than that. I mean, they
will lose less than thine games.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I'm cool with that statement, but I seven is crazy.
I'm taking you on the seven.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Bet me on the eight and a half. No, ain
and a half eight and a half game?

Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, you're losing nine or seven? Those are two games, right,
nine or seven? Your numbers got right.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Lose games ain't nothing though? Yeah, your numbers got eight
and a half, two games, ain't nothing better? Bettles on hundred.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Seven and a half seven mil the same as nine mil.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, that's pretty close. You guys are fucking capping, bro.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Not that's two million dollars to burn on investments, bro
arena spend on another show.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
You're gonna bet there's a hundred on this eight and
a half.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I got lessons. I got lessons.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That's more than a hundred bet though, Yeah, that should
be more thing, Bro, you can do it. Seven. You
said they were gonna lose more look at the chat.
The chat like they're telling you to take it. They
said less than nine No, no.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I said lessons.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
He racist.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I mean, Charlie says they're not losing more than seven games.
I take it back and a half then I'm shutting up.
And a half added another game I can win, I
can win. To see them winning seventy three games, I
can't see them win seventy five games.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
That was my point. That means they have to lose
six games.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
They lose six games for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
They what right now? Twenty three and one? Just crazy?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Twenty three and one or twenty two and one.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Think about what we're saying right now, they are twenty
three and one right now, twenty three and one. They
everyone did somebody beat me. I said they weren't gonna
lose a game, and I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
They just told us that they wouldn't lose one more.
That's all you said. You just made a proclamation.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
I thought, I bet somebody we might have to go
back on the on the screen and check that because
I show put it out there.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
No, you put it out there and nobody disagreed with you.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
But anyway, okay See is winning. They use the promo code.
They're impressive, though I think it's easy money. They're impressed,
very impressive.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Put your money up, y'all.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
The way they the way they demoralized Utah yesterday, it
was over in the first half, it was it was over,
and then the third quarter looked even worse and.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
They were engling boys up. The thing with okay See
is that it doesn't really matter who's on the court.
Motherfuckers know how to play together, bro. They got their identity, bro,
and they play defense together. Crazy.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Everybody is on the same rotation. Everybody's on want man
listen on one cord?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Like, so are we giving a big shout out to
Mark because I feel like we don't give enough credit
to coaches.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Coach.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yes, but when teams are successful, I personally feel like
players get all the success. I don't feel like coaches
really get the success.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Well that's because you're still the ones out there playing.
But at the same time, but if you lose, the
coaches fall.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
He got those guys, He.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Got these guys buying in. They really buying in. They
look like an NBA college team.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well that's my point, and you make a great point, right, Ray,
I feel like, yes, the Warriors team you can't take
credit for because they were so great talent wise, but
because of the way this team plays and they're so
connected on defensive end and how they share the ball
in their system, I think you have to give a
lot of credit credit to the coaching And that was
kind of my point, is that we give a lot
of credit to a lot of blame when teams lose,

(17:47):
but we don't give a lot of credit when coaches win,
and it's they play a big part in that or
the entire coaching staff.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well, I mean, you.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Can't say that because we we we give love to
the good the good coaches in the NBA, we get
a lot of love to them. But you know, at
the end of the day, still a players league, it's
not a coach's league. So you know, the credits is
gonna always go to the players because they're the ones
out there putting in the work, the ones out there
shooting the shots and you know, playing defense, running the offense. Now,

(18:14):
the coaches come up with great schemes. Coaches who if
you're a good motivator, you got you got a good offense,
a good defense, and if you got a way to
have your guys to buy into your system and what
you're trying to get them to do as a group.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Sky's the limit for you. And that's what you see
with this team. And they are young. Think about that.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
The young still trying to get a second contract, and
he still got them playing that way.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
He got them buying in.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
If you win, everybody's gonna eat, whether you eat here
with OKC or you go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
And that's the truth. And they're about to get younger
because they got eighty million picks Clippers pick. Look. I
think when Marcus two is figuring out which five he
puts on the court that complement each other, well, think
about it.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Think it does a good job at that. Last night,
J dub and Chet had twenty five, but the bench
Dang had fourteen. Calson I only know who Carlson is,
he had thirteen. Cam Rich Williams he doesn't need he's
not even a score. He had eleven, and then Aaron
Wiggins had nineteen. That's all the bench.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
That's fifty seven points from the bench, Like that's crazy.
The Mitchell kid didn't even play well, he had seven.
I think everybody played no one played over twenty six minutes.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Talk about how and I don't know if you guys
can speak on it, because obviously every team is different.
It's okay, very easy to fit in because it is
such a system that players have to understand. The playing
is that easier.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I wouldn't say no, because you have to have done
one thing.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
I will say that you gotta give Sam Presty, you know,
credit for he goes out to get certain guys. Think
about how many guys he could have actually brought there.
Think about who he can bring there with all the
shit he got. He got picks for days, so he
can do whatever he wants and to get whoever he
wants to bring in. But it's about fit. It's about

(20:15):
who's gonna buy into this culture here, what we're doing.
And they got a culture they they he's he's been
this way since I played there, Like he's real strict
on certain things, how he do things, and that's just
what it is. But it's paid off. And now he
got to a great coach in there. That's like, I mean,
you gotta give it. You gotta give credit to Mark Man.

(20:36):
Marcus done the fucking phenomenal job.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Their offense is very, very difficult to guard though, with
the personnel they got just because they got so much shooting,
and then put you in the buying because they run
this like two man action where the guy just standing there,
it'd be standing at a three point line or the
free throw line, and the guard up top just has
anywhere you can go. You can go left, you can
go right, and then put whoever the bad defender is

(21:01):
in the middle, and then you just as a as
a basketball player, you never really worried about the person
in front of you. If you're good, you're gonna get
past that guy. It's the next person. So then once
you get past that guy, you gotta go. It's either
you're gonna switch it or you're gonna let him go
right down the lane. You got a guy in the dunker,
all right. If the guy and the dunker, which is

(21:23):
majority of time, the big man comes over, you got
the lib if you want to help from the big.
If the big comes over, it helps. You got the
corner guy. He has to help on the big. That
means the corner three is open. You can't rotate because
the other rotation guys at the fucking top of the
key you can't rotate from the top of the key
to the corner. It's impossible. So they run, they run

(21:44):
the offense. It's fucking very difficult to guard. And that's
not even with shape. Let me, let me add this
hole before you say so. I think one thing where
we didn't touch on is Okay, see front office does
a great job of identifying high character guys and I identifying,
you know, guys that don't have egos.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
You can't be you can't have to be high character
to play for okay. See, I'm assuming you have to get.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Like think about it that somebody getting caught up and okay,
see doing some dumb shit. You don't see that, you
don't hear that, or if you do, you know these
guys are you know, it might seem small, but it's
big when you when they interview and let's say Shay
and the whole team is behind them. Little that adds
up and that's how you know. It shows those guys

(22:31):
played together and I don't I don't see anyone beating them.
So to be honest, I don't want to say easy.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
That was the wrong word.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
But is it easier to feel like if you play
with Luca you're standing in the corner at times. Okay, see,
you know you got to be at a spot. You
know what you gotta do. Because it's very system based.
That's what's more of the question I was asking, is
it easier for you to step up when you know
exactly what you need to do, rather than Hey, we're
gonna watch Luca driple the ball for fifteen seconds up
the clock and see what he does as as a player.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
I just think it's about It's also about personnel, you know.
I think Sga is just he's humble. You know, he
gonna get his shots. He's figured out where he get
his shots at how he can score. And to me,
I think he gets an effortless thirty every night. Like
I don't see him working hard at all. I see

(23:21):
him in the same motion get to his spot. Nobody
speeds him up. Just playing within the Florida offense, does
he get some isold situations? Yeah, but it's within the
offense because they keep that ball moving. Everybody touches the ball,
and all of a sudden he gets the ball and
then he gonna go do his thing. You know, they
get a lot of buckets in transition because they do
play great defense, and it's just I don't know, man,

(23:45):
It's just it's fun to watch Hill. I wish I
could have played in that system when I was there,
you know what I'm saying, Because it's just it looks
like it looks like fun basketball.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Be honest with you. Agreed? Agreed? All right? Man?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Wherever Jordan Young is that?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Neither?

Speaker 3 (24:01):
I see you in the chat we're talking with the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Lebroad turned back the clock look good one of the
games he did that, his double digits streak in Toronto.
Thought the dub, got the dub, made the game winning pass.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Can we run the clips from last night? Please? Peter?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
What did y'all think of the game?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Oh? Damn, he was balling. He's basically forty one. Then
to say, I mean, I mean, we know he's gonna

(24:46):
he's capable. He's more than capable. We know that. But
is he gonna do this on a consistent basis? I
don't think so. I mean, he's at the point where
he has to like kind of pick and choose the street. Still,
the street's still alive in the United States. That's true.

(25:09):
That is very true. That very streak is alive. Still
it's not in the NBA game. I'm gonna be real
with you, bro, and I hate to say it. Bronze
old he is. We know he did it. He did it.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
He had a very good game last night. No one's
shocked at him having a good game. The consistency is
not going to be there. It's not gonna be there,
absolutely no. I don't think it needs to No, I
agree with you. I agree with that. I don't think
it needs to be. If they can control this until
the finish line, until the playoffs, then it's different. Because

(25:51):
they did some things offensively yesterday where it's like that's
gonna be hard to stop. If if this was if
this was Ron two years ago, I have a better
feeling about the Lakers. And that's crazy to even say
two years ago because that means he's thirty nine, right,
But there's still years and years, years and years, you

(26:13):
know what I'm saying. But I like, like Burton said,
it's never been offense for me. It's always defensively. And
it's a great win against Toronto. Found a way to
get that win. Good win against Philly, find a way
to get that win. Clap against Boston. That was a

(26:34):
setup game. It was a back to back, but they
still have a problem defensively.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
At the end of the day, I don't think Philly
has anything figured out offensively because they're just so interchangeable
with fuck they got going on. We're talking about Philly, right,
we're gonna talk about Philly. Yeah, we're gonna talk about them. Okay,
we're gonna talk.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
We know what you want to say. I'm going.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Austin's forty versus Paul Dre I get it. We can
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Thought the forty and I'm I talking about that. I
am talking about that, right, all right, But how the
hell y'all gonna pick Paul George over Austin? I never
I was not It wasn't he wasn't here.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
That it does me and Ray mean right, I never.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Got your perspective then, So what is your perspective? Who's better?
Right now? When we get to fill when we get
to Philly, we can talk about it.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Shadow Oasis shout out caw, She shout out broun. Unbelievable career,
keep the whole thing. Hope you stay healthy. So it's
gonna be tough, but.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I want to ask you, right, it's saying on the
Lakers did this road road trip. They're still on the
road trip. Two and one obviously lost back to back.
Call it a setup game schedule loss. Did tell you
anything about the Lakers because we said this was important.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Great road trip. It's a good road trip for him.
I'm glad. I mean it's a good road trip.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Different, same thing.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
They faced three good teams, three I would say, good tech,
higher than average teams all over five hundred.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Got Lakers winning it. Hell, no.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Leagas what they got Lakers winning it. Whin he won championship,
the number two in the WESTWN stop it. I was
asked question, just a question. People think I'm trying to
I'm just being realistic. I think people try to get
all hype about it. I'm like, look, bro, he had
a good game, But is this is this an NBA

(28:33):
for everybody thinks I'm a hater. Do you think the
Lakers are a NBA championship level team?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
And I would they'll answer the question, does since one
does not playing defense win you any chap what?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Let me answer this question? Are they NBA championship team?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Shout out to JVC watching for the Philippines.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I've always been a bron man, I'm trying to come
out there to the Philippines too.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
No, yes, don't got a good center.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
This guy said, yes we do. I can't say the
last part of it.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
No, they are not.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yes if okay, he didn't exist, So that's a no Lakers,
Yes we do.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Niggah, why do you think? Why do you think the
Lakers are better than Denver? Okay, see that's my only question.
If even Minnesota they got a chance? No because of
the So everybody is saying no as well. So why
y'all hating on THEO? I just said they listen now
I saw something they were able to get, like a

(29:28):
Herb Jones or something.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Just calls hating bitches shy cozy vid.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Oh yeah, appreciate you tuning in my boy. Yeah, who
hate on my nigga? A bit? Slow down right right
the internet. It's a good talk. You'll do this every show.
He better than you at this? I got it all right, Bro,
he is. Bro.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
You didn't say yes or no? Win a champions.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
My response with somebody say he's better, I'm better than you.
When everybody say that, like, oh you I'm better than you,
that's an is better than me. No.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Hey, listen, I'm not gonna lie. When I look at
the Instagram comments, that's Charlie's number one line. He's better
than me, but I'm better than you.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I'm better than you. That's all that matters. Because there's
always gonna be somebody better than you. There's always gonna
be somebody has more money than you. There's always gonna
be someone that's gonna have more females than you. There's
always gonna be somebody that has more something of you.
That's the fact we're talking about. As long as I'm
whoever saying it, as long as I'm better than you. Yeah,
I love Herb Jones with the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Herb Jones and Trair like massive targets for like a
lot of teams.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Jones get to the Lakers. That might help him love.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Her expensive for the Lakers, I think Herban Herb like
Herb get them out of it, gonna be very expensive.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Herb already sign No.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I more meant like you're gonna have to give a
lot of your roster because they're gonna be hot commodities
on the trademark.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, you don't got to get a lot up for Herbs.
I don't think you gotta give up too much.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
You don't think you don't think Herb Jones trade value
is very high. A lot of teams want him, a.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Lot of people, a lot of teams want them defensively.
But you don't have to give up a lot to
get him supplying demand. You don't got to give up
a lot. Bro, you think give up a lot.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I just think I don't think you have to give
up like a lot, a lot.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
But I think it's gonna be higher than asking persons
you expect because he has a highst the man you.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Give up Vanderbilt and fucking gave Vincent.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
No, you're not getting that done?

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Hell no? Why not? The numbers, the contracts are definitely
the same. Why would New Orleans do that? Her that's nasty?
Who do that? Lakers? It works herb U and Vanderbilt.
If you're trying to get if you're trying to if

(31:55):
you're trying to trade him, and what are you talking about?
I don't think they're trying to. I just think.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Vanderbilt, really I'm not I don't know, but what I
would say to you, raised, I don't think they're trying
to actively trade them. They're listening for good offers. It's
a different conversation. You have assets you want to rebuild.
I can see them keeping Herb for the next five
years because Herb fits her timeline.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
He was like twenty three. But I want to see
him go somewhere and who for sure.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
But I'm just saying, okay, I mean New Orleans doesn't
have to get rid of him.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
That's the thing. It's not like they're on a clock
with him.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Oh but but I feel like you're wasting time with
Herb if you keep them. If I'm New Orleans, what
you're gonna do with Herb Jones?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
He can be one of your cornerstones. You don't need
her Jones.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I'd rather build around Trey Murphy than Herb.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
But Trey Murphy and Herb and Jeremiah are your three
pieces you build around. That's your young core, and you
add pieces. Get rid of the Jonte, you get rid
of Jordan's pool, get rid of Zion, and you keep
those three.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
They need to get rid of the team and go
to someone else. That's what they need to do. New Orleans.
You got Fears, you got Queen, you got no they
got some young good pieces. Yeah, I don't know if
the cornerstone.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Cornerstone is not a franchise but it means that he's
a very He's kind of like a better Cavon Looney
that's there for ten years, that helps you win. That's
what I mean by Cornerstone.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Am I wrong for saying? And think about this. I
love everybody, I don't really give a fuck, but if
you have, but if you have, uh Luca ar Marcus Smart,
Herb Jones, DeAndre Ayton, silent, I give that team a

(33:51):
better chance than I do with.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
The current team. The current team, yeah, because I know
what you did that you added defense.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I added defense, energy players, and they can and they're
liable to make a shot.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I don't disagree with you. I just think Cornerstone was
not a franchise player. By the way, everybody got.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Me fucked up.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
No, no, no, I get exactly what the player that
could be there for ten years and is contributing every
single year, that's Herb Jones. That's all I think. But
I get what you're saying they should. But I think
the Warriors would offer Jonathan Mingo. I'm taking Kamingo over
whatever the Lakers are giving.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
I think the Lakers should be. I think with how
Luca defense, you have to go a little bit more
towards defense. Then you have to do offense because you
don't worry about offense is not the problem for the Lakers,
never been with Luca dancers on the court, offense would
never be the problem. It will always be the other
end of court. So you have to you have to

(34:45):
pretty much have more of that because what it What
did Dallas have? Those three guys were defenders when you
had PJ. Washington, You had Derrick Jones Jr. And you
had a big and you had Kyrie and Luca. I
just gotta my water bottle. Yes, get that up though, Yeah,

(35:07):
ship your Peter not playing no more?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Bro? Yeah, he said you know what I mean? No
all the drinks on the fucking table.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
We said no all the branded drinks, water balls, fine water.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
That was the thing that was agreement. Don't put no
fucking drinks on the table. Man.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Why you're so tight right now?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Bro, I'm rolling with it. I'm rolling.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
You can think I'm crazy, but I'm just speaking facts. Man,
You're not trading bron C. We dressed like the Hood
and Spence that if we if we if we trade Brin,
we can win. There's no market for Broun. Let's move
on from bron Bro. People are just gonna think, let's
move on.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Bron can't help any Any team that's trying to win.
This ship is the Lakers trying to win. They're figure
it out.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
What if I saw you asked that question about three
or four times. I got no problem with KG Man,
it is what it is. Got no problem with nobody
number one line.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I'm blessed I woke up this morning. He's not stressing
about I got no problems with nobody. Yeah, Star, he
was on the on the Raptors team. Sure he's on
the statue.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
His name is there. I'm on the statue. You in
l A. Go check out the statue of moment.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Take a picture and send it to our discord. By
the way, make sure I'll join our discord.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Uh. I don't know if we'll be doing playback anytime soon,
stay tuned for that.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Just that y'all know we're gonna do live Call of
Duty though.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, we're gonna run a call Listen. We are going
to set up some sort of gaming room in our
discord that you can play Call Duty Ray. I don't
know if and Charlie are in.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, we're talking about stephen A and Max Kellerman. There
was a bunch of nothing, bro, A bunch of nothing.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
I mean, you want to talk about let's talk.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
No, No, I mean I don't know. I mean if
we're talking, they might not know. But we got graphics,
we don't got video, we don't got But when I
listen to it's just a bunch of nothing. It's just
like it was whatever what happened. They're going at it.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Basically, Max Kellerman said that he was mohammed Kellerman Ahlly
or something like that, and that stephen A didn't want
to go against him, and then stephen A said, like,
don't they make me expose you?

Speaker 1 (37:10):
You know what I mean, It's just like this is dumb.
I think I found the mom you hit bro.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
No Tea, he's not from he's from South Carolina. He's
not from Toronto. She was also she was also twenty six.
She was a young teacher, twenty six, twenty five.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
They can't be his mama now, nigga, No, because she.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Didn't have a kid at that time. That means he's
young Mekelvin's Calvin's went to sc around racetime. I know
Kelvin Ray season his name all the time. He's capping.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
She can't have her baby at thirty something, he's older
than me. How old is he?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
He's he said he went to South Carolina schools.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
When they went to school, bro he captain, he cappin,
he cat. Yeah, that's all good, though I ain't mad
at it.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Listen, I'll fuck with to the ball hall fans man,
what's up with y'all. I appreciate all of you guys.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
That he wrought with Philly. Now you're a Philly fan,
let's talk about it. They look old d PG look old.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Irock with MAXI and we got a guess coming soon.
Fans talk to him this weekend, Monte.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Are you talking? Get Monte on the oh shoot? He said,
just let him know he capping. That was with him
when I asked him. He ain't gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
He ain't gonna do that to meet on the show.
We're gonna watch his son and another kid play his
son nice too.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
That's a big son. Just had forty two. He had
forty Yeah, he's next one. Monte has only been off
the mud. Next one to the bar. Yeah, I'll be tough. Okay,
let's get monte. Monte loves hoops, Bro. He still looks
you funny as fuck. Bro, Country is hell super.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
You know what he was talking about too, But we'll
talk about out here. You know he was here when
that ship happened. You remember that, You remember the ship
happened with what what I guys?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
With Rick?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
He wants you to say it on air, That's what
he's not.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Setting me up for that. I'll be the ones that
you want to on air.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Good question, what retired VET has the best son playing?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
What's what? What's the question?

Speaker 3 (39:20):
What retired VENT has the best un playing?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
That's easiest? Del Curry, Yeah, can be that he's only
he's only top ten player. That's I can't play. Can't
complain with that. It's gotta be definitely has. I mean,
if you want to talk about like this modern era,
I do.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
You want to talk about like now high school, which
retired VET has the best son playing?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Like like you want to say two thousands era?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Probably probably playing what playing basketball?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
What do you try to say? Magic Johnson? Oh wow,
we're gonna have to show early today, guys.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Because he's almost high school. Cev is wild and non pros.
We got Elijah Arenas. He's cold gil so we got
obviously the boozer to it.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Hey, bro, let's talk about Philly. Let's talk about Philly.
Let's get the Philly you got to say about Philly TV.
Look a little a little old, but go ahead. I
like Maxi. What about Maxie steen graphic? It's about time
that you give Maxi the fucking keys inmbeid. I think

(40:30):
he already got him. I think he got the keys
you think so.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, there was a report that he criticized Joel he
took the.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Most shots at some point that Joellen b shit is
like it's a rat bro.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
So the pg rat so is that he called out
Joel for being late in a practice, and that's why
James Worthy said, That's why I knew he'd be legit.
But on that point about Joel, I mean, his knees
just don't look the same. I've only watched stints of him,
but he doesn't look like he's moving the same.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Fucking sketches, bro, Yeah, shoes matter. All shoes are not
basketball shoes, and no shot as sketches. Every shoe is
not basketball ball.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Perfect example, like just sh ain't it. Ain't that, bro,
Let's just be real that so when they came out
to them back in the day fucking last, you know,
both of you. I don't know what a Chris Webber joint, spinning.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Joint, Harrington's proteges just garbage, shout al the owl.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
But sketches. Is he the only one that wears sketches him.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
And wears them to hid easy? I think your your
high school class man wears them too, doesn't he?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah? I think he does.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I don't know if he's high schoo class I know
t Man, Terrence Man. There's a couple of people that
wear sketchers.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Yes, it's nasty work. He just don't look like he
got no boogie no more. That's what made him great.
He used to like he used to move like a guard.
I think it's confidence. No, I think he just can't move.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
But that's what That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Though he doesn't look the same, doesn't look like he
move as much, Like he's not even looking.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Like the block shots like he used to.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
I think it's to the point now he knows that
he can't do certain things or that shit gonna hurt,
so he just he he plays to survive the game.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, that's finishing.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
He plays to survive the game. No, he plays the
game not to get hurt. Yes, he plays the game
not to get hurt.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Do you do you think he turns it up in
the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
You think he?

Speaker 4 (42:37):
I think he's gonna be care free. He's trying to
get through the regular season to make it to the
play to make it to the playoffs. If you watch
his game, he's literally going out there just trail three.
If he sees if he's trying to draw the foul like,
it's not him really imposing his will, trying to go

(42:59):
through somebody, trying to dunk some ship like, it's none
of that. If the jumper going, he like cool the
jumpers going tonight. If it's not, he gonna look bad.
PG getting eight shots, I don't agree with that. I
think he should get more than eight shots, especially if
I'm paying you that much money. I think that's an issue.
But other than that, this team would never have a

(43:23):
true identity until they can consistently be on the floor together.
They have These three have not been on the floor
together for extended period of time.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Yeah, And I think they try to figure it out
because you know, you've got a young fella that's just
coming into being a star.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Or a real star in this league, you know MAXI.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
So they trying to figure out, okay with him kind
of taking over as the main guy. Now, how do
we fit in with that? You know what I'm saying.
So they they accepted that. I think PG has Jolen
b I don't know he's figuring it out. Jodan Beiter
is already his team.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Uh if if Sketchers sponsored the podcast, we will all
be wearing Sketchers match Off one hundred percent, wearing Sketch hundred.
Once we are not playing basketball, we do not need
to have basketball show having my sketches. I will be
wearing my Sketchers, having my shoes up so you can
see them in my count.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Get the ones that slide on and slide to joints.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Hey, hey Burton, get us an Anti for the hit.
Get us an Anti dealer. Did you see someone said
that Gil dropped sixty and Bono shoes.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
It wasn't sixty. I just look at this.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
He dropped twenty three and on the Lakers and do
Chang Bona shoes designer shoes.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Where he definitely did that would do Jack Obona Joe, he.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Didn't have a deal O the time, pull pull up damage, Peter,
Peter can find it. But let's ask the question. You
want to talk about R versus Paul George, You go ahead,
get your ship off.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
I don't need to get my ship off. It's very
self explaining to him. What like Austin Reeve, it is
is way better than PG. The fact that you said
way better is crazy. Right now? You're getting tomorrow right now?
Are yall serious with PG? I'm dead serious? Way better? Yes?

(45:18):
Have you watched the Lakers and you just watch R?
He can play? He got game, bro.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
I'm not taking I'm not saying he can't play. But
when y'all be y'all, when y'all be, will y'all be
saying things is way like, I'm like, way what yah?

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, it's way. No one is averaging fourteen, the other
one's averaging thirty.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
What's way is between fun? We're talking about fucking Alin Reeves,
Eric Gordon. I can't argue with the numbers.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
One is averaging fourteen points a game hasn't been playing
all year, So the other one is averaging twenty eight.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
We hasn't been playing all year, don't play every game,
play on back the backs again. Okay, because of a story,
because of an injury. Okay, so yes, if I had
a healthy PG this year full with PG, he's not healthy.
It's the facts. Just like you said, the numbers is
a fact. Twenty eight and fourteen. The fact of the
matter is PG has been hurt. He didn't start off

(46:13):
the season. He's playing playing back to backs, but he's playing,
not playing back the back, but he's active and he's available.
He's not playing and he's averaging fourteen. That's great.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
He's imagining he's left me and his back issues come on,
so averaging fourteen exactly my point. I would say at
some point, though, AR is better than PG this year
because he's healthy. I mean, that's your opinion. My opinion
is I'm not rolling. He doesn't have to roll. He's
very bad GM. No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
She would No, I wouldn't, because one has one has
won and went further in the playoffs than the other.
So how am I'm a badge?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
But you're talking about past the fuck it will show
me the future AR, because he ain't showed me yet.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
AAR has not been great in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
He ain't showed me yet fair enough. So I also
said I'm a bad GM. I would say, imagine him.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Well, we have always, we've all hear you need AAR
the shows in the playoffs, and then he's solidified. I
would say this, he's better than Paul George right right now. Yeah, sure,
he's better than Paul George right now. If Paul George
had the same opportunity as AR right now, I can't
stick here and say PG couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
They can't do it if he was with this age,
if he was with the Lakers. So hologh, who got
who got a better chance?

Speaker 5 (47:30):
I'm gonna ask you a real question, who got a
better chance to go further and possibly win in the
playoffs with Luca Lebron and PG or Luca Lebron and
AR Healthy.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I'm going with PG healthy. I'm stinking with the AR.
Damn that is. P G is not giving you the
same ship that PG.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I need to be a three and D player. He
can still do that for you with Lukebron.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
He can't give you twenty. He can't. You know clearly
he can't give you twenty because aging fourteen, right, oh,
my god, he's coming up. All right, let's see what
George thirty six, thirty seven, thirty six. What did Paul
George average last year? He's thirty five? What did Paul
George he was hurt last year? Sixteen? Yeah, he was
hurt last hurt last year. So his the year before

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that he was with the Clippers. What the average.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
He averaged sixteen last year the year before that with
the clip twenty two points?

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Twenty three? Okay, so healthy Paul George can't still give
you that. It's still not twenty eight. What AR is
doing right now? I don't care. You just got I
don't care talking about what are you gonna do in
the playoffs? What are you gonna do in the playoffs?
We don't know? Is yet to we yet to see it.
What is AAR averaging with Luca Lebron on the court?
What is the averaging me with more than twenty two?

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I guarantee that. Let's see. Come on, let's see with
Luca Lebron the court, because more than points, he all
these points he got from the because he can't say
Lebron was the third option. He was scoring fifty for
forty something when they wasn't playing, so his averages up
because of that? What has he averaged since they've been
playing against Big Bank? Yeah? Tell him big Bank. We're

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talking about right now, Ray, right now.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I don't know if this is accurate. It says he's
averaging fourteen to four and no, fuck it without you,
he says, when Luca's out numbers, I'm not hearing that
Big Bank. He's with Luca, he's averaging forty one and ten.
But when both of them play, he's averaging fourteen, four
and four?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Is this production when they play when the same numbers
that pg's averaging right now? Thank you, and I'm taking it.
And my point is yes, I'm taking it because he's
a better defender. Thank you, my point making my point
those numbers? That is cool? Ai, that was Google.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
I can't actually find like status the fucking.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Truth because that's bullshit. I can't find you mad because
he's not mad. I guarantee you it's not the truth.
He don't gage, he he don't be doing that much
points when they play.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Can we do a little bit of research. I can
do some research or tomorrow I look at there you go.
I can guarantee you that just be hun Ben and
hunch he ain't averaging and find it.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah how much?

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Let me know how much is Austin Reeves averaging when
Luca and Lebron are on the court.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
How much does Austin Reeves? Let me talk it in
status average.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
With Brogin not fourteen. I don't think I'm fourteen. I
would say it's like I bet a hune on that.
Oh yeah, I know that twenty.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
That is not twenty. That's his career, So that's not accurate.
I bet it's not twenty. It's not average twenty. It
may not be fourteen, but I bet it's not twenty.
I say it's twenty.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I think if PG was featured like like he like Archide.
If he's not, he's not taking twenty five shots a game.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
D Yo just said that he took none featuring he took.
You're gonna feature PG. That's total. That's what he basketball
is gonna feature PG. MA that's a two years ago.
We were just talking about this man, and like, come on, bro,
I can't talk about the past. I'm talking about right now.
What have you done for me? Charlie? Huh camera, what

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have you done for me? Now? It's all I'm asking
PG is the better player, better career overall, I ain't
talking about I'm talking about I'm talking about right.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Now, take the same amount of shots. I think he'd
be right at the same point. No, that's my only thing.
You're asking me if I'm real not feeling.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Rolling the ball out right now, I'm rolling the ball
out one on one.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I mean ar Okay, So people are saying it's twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
That's crazy. Right now you roll the ball out playing
one on one PG, and AR are you taking? Who?
He ar averaging twenty twenty six point twenty six point nine?
Now he's averaging that. Yes, I think I think he's
I think he is averaging that because Lebron has taken round.
He's taking a back seat.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Listen, this is what I got on Google's AI.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
No, No, I think I think Lebron has taken because
we were talking about that Bron has literally like he are.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
No, I don't think the Rosen is better than he
is right now. But at the same time, PG is
a defender. Yeah, I dont know.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
You know, I had this conversation, but we're saying PG
is a defender. Pg's a defender. But then when it
comes to all, he got bad needs. She got badk
needs on the defensive, fen too. The fuck we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
That's not what he said though.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
So if he got PG, he didn't wait back ship,
he got bad need. I'm gonna take him as friend.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Unhealthy, he said, when he's healthy, he's a better player.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Okay, when when is he healthy? Two years ago? Years ago?
What are we talking about. I'm gonna take him p
two two years ago for sure. But that that's just
what we're talking about, both making I'm taking two years
ago over your kitchen. That's no, I'm not doing that either.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
You're tripping now, by the way, that's let us know.
Is there audio that bad? Because she know Little always
comes in here says that it's a debate. Can let
us know who more gangster fifty cent on the first time.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
TV cooking on this argument, You damn right, I'm cooking
both of these dudes. He ain't cooking nobody because they
are in this ship yet in this league. I'll give
a fuck about him scoring fifty points. He hasn't done
anything crossing the whole, which is coming into his own.
Now you start naming a whole bunch of niggas who
averaged a whole bunch of points. But he ain't one ship.
He coming into his own ship yet. He's just coming

(53:29):
into his own. He ain't won yet. That's why we
keep saying, yeah, I heard you, PG ain't what. He
ain't won either, But he won more than this than
this motherfucker he got you because pg's been doing it
for longer. I'm just saying, come on, now, is just
coming into his own and that's cool. I'm happy for him.
I'm not I'm not hating on. I'm saying he's well

(53:49):
because I think somebody else is better. That's not hate.
I give him his flowers. He's doing really good. I
don't think he's better than PG. So my last night,
I do want to ask this question.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Did he look worse yesterday because you just misshots or
because Lebron played second fiddle?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
What happened last night? Yea, Lebron was cooking, Ron, you
gotta feature him. Hey, Bron was cooking, So somebody to
take back. He just took a back seat, to the
back seat. That's what PG has been doing.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
He's been taking more than a back seat. I mean, PG, listen, listen.
I personally just think Paul George is kind of trying
to feel his way into.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Hey, y'all, hear my girl.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Come on, y'all, y'all tripping, Hey, y'all won't be breathing
no more talking about I don't play them top games.
Y'all can miss me with that one. Hey, we're gonna
move on.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Relax and Ship. I meant what I said, y'all do that.
We're gonna move on him. Address that.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
Yeah, nigga, don't say no bullshit like that. Hit my girl, nigga, Ship,
you won't be playing right now, talk about.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Anyway. Let's go to next topic.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
An, let's stay I'm Philly, but we don't switch to
the next topic.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Maxis still been cooking, cooking, but the Sixers my fault. Charlie.
You gotta stop trying to get more. Stop. But we
can move on. We move on, We can move on.
Got scared. I'm good, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
I just don't want this. I just want to be
clipped and.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
We keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
MAXI has been cooking, but they come back to earth.
They are like five hundred on the season. Are they
still legit? They got to move on and play with
just a bunch of young guys.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
I'm just saying, it's a long season. Man, there's a
lot of people that's been playing good. Think about it.
Let's look at Chicago. Did you say he was a believer.
I believe in what the Sixers? Yeah, I believe in
the Sixers, big believe him being your one who's being
the one who's believing in Chicago the first seasons.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I believe in Maxie and his growth over the years.
I believe believed in him too. I don't believe it's
the right team. You know.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
You know yesterday he took a lot of shots, which
he takes a lot of shots. He takes a lot
of shots. Does he make does he make his teammates better?

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Though he has to take a lot of shots?

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Why does he have to take a lot of shots
with him personality? Because he's a scoring guard. He's a
scoring guard actually, and number two. I don't think he
has the right pieces around him, don't. I think having
him be hurts hurts? And PG hurts.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
I mean the BNPG hurts because PG rightfully so, I mean,
PG is.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
A fucking Hall of Famer. But listen, I don't think
PG hurts. I think Jolan B hurt because he slows
the game. PG don't slow the game.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Now. I think PG hurts because I think PG is
trying to figure out, like, am I still the old PG?
Might my game is changing.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
I think you're trying to figure out how to fit
in with them young boys. Honestly, that's what I see.
And BE hurts more because he slows the game. That
slow the game.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Now, if Philly really wants to make that next step
and B has to go, but who what value does?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
What do you mean by next step?

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Though?

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Because I don't think they're better playoff team with you
if I if I give you, no, no, no, Milwaukee's
doing nothing if you give.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
If you give Philly, give Phillis or like a Jared Allen,
I feel better about Philly than I do hundred Jared
Allen is good by the way, I'm not. I'm not
with that, but I'm coming from I think if you watch,
if you watch how they play, it's literally a pick
and roll.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Okay, Maxie has a mismatch. Oh but Embad's standing right
there at the free throw line because he got the mismatch.
So like, at that point, if you really want him
to be your one, if you're asking for Tyrese Maxi
to be your guy. Embiid has to understand, all right,
it ain't It ain't a pick until I got the mismatch.

(58:26):
It's a pick until your ass roll to the basket,
get to the dunker.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
But the problem is that we always talk about is
playoff basketball is a lot slower, but.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Not so the spacing has to be correct. If Joel
Embiid is Joel Embiid, we don't give a damn. But
from what it's looking like, he is not in himself
right now right so he is rolling to get in
the way so he can get the ball instead. What

(58:56):
bigs are really taught you roll? If you don't get it,
you go to the other side of the dunker. All right,
bet If he's on the other side of drunker, Tyresse
can take his guy. If the big steps up, or
whoever gardener beat steps up, he can dump it off
to him and then he gets a layup. But at
the end of the day, I think, in my opinion,
I think, if you really believe in Tyre's vaccine, yes, sir,

(59:20):
you're really not gonna You're not showing you truly believing him.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
With Joel and B's on the court. That's my opinion.
Like Free, I also like me too. And he he
takes out totally backs when those guys are there, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
But still though even before that he was taking a
back seat or respectfully, so you know, he's like, this
is the OG, this is their franchise, and you know,
I'm gonna take a back seat. But for Philly to
see that we are this successful when we play with
these young guys and they're running, they are better when
they got Andre Drummond and those guys because Andre Drumming
is not sitting in at the free throw line asking

(59:58):
for ISO and clogging up the paint. He's diving, trying
to get a roll, trying to get a lob. He's
gonna rebound for you. He's gonna defend, gonna run the floor,
So you know what I mean. And that's why eighty
eight and plays better and he's starting to figure it
out even with Luke and in now he plays better
with ar because they're playing with Freedom. Ain't nobody trying

(01:00:19):
to say, I gotta look for I gotta look for
l d Fuck, I gotta look for Lebron.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
They ain't doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
They just getting that up and ain't going and Aar
is playing free and he's hooping, and also the other
guys are hooping around him. And I think that's the
same thing with Philly. They win when those guys are
not playing because the guys are free. He ain't got
to worry about Damn. I got to get the ball
to Joel and b Ship. He touched the ball in
three possessions. I gotta give him the rock. They ain't
doing that when they're out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
That's why this is Philly a better team with bac
he trad Yeah, because he's traditionally big. He's gonna roll.
He don't get it, he gets he get the fuck
out the way. Look a lot better.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Listen, we've all played with We all play with guys
who they're gonna get in the way until they get
the fucking ball where you're literally gonna stand in the
one place you can go with the ball. Throw that
motherfucker right here. If you watch it, if you watch
Philly play, it's literally a pick and roll and he

(01:01:16):
stands at the free throw line like, all right, cool,
because that's how they That's how it used to be
because Joel andb was top two player in the fucking league.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
He was the MVP of the league, so that used
to be the offense.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Pick and roll. He gets to the free throw and
you throw it to him. Okay, bet he probably wants
to get to his right hand. You clear out that
right side. You have one strong side corner and let
Joel NB go to work. It ain't that no more,
brou that those days seem like from what it looks like,
those days might be over. So yeah, for and bad.

(01:01:50):
So if that day is over, you have to do
what is necessary for those that day to be over.
Either you have a real conversation with Joel and B like, look, bro,
we love you, we appreciate you, We think you could
definitely help us. But while Tyree's MAXI is in the game,
y'all go off of pick and roll. I need you
to roll a big fella, get to the weak side dunker.

(01:02:11):
If not, we gotta do what we gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I think for Philly, they just gotta hope that Joel
and be Stady's healthy for the rest of the year,
because that means his value will hold somewhat of value
that you can get something from. But the best thing
that can happen for Philly is that joe and Beach
stays healthy. Fuck it, they don't win. They don't win,
They go to the playoffs, get bumped, whatever, but get something.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
For If ling B can play like he did in
the Olympics, I got Philly coming out the East.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I will he played, he played his role. He wasn't
just staying there. Can't have Philly coming out the East. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
There's no better big in the East than Dreel and
Bid if he played. If Joey B played like a
traditional bit. First of all, all he had to do
is pick role, standing the dunker. Yeah, nobody, who's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Fucking when shots down to five? You know what I'm
saying that, Like, who's really fucking with him? If he
just does simple ship, He's not. He's not moving like
that though.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Huh. Joelan be can catch the ball in the duncker
and go finish room.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Even if he don't, the motherfucker Bier gonna come back.
He's gonna jump pup, fake and one. You know what
I'm saying. If he makes it simple, if he's able
to do what bron is doing right now, and he's
not as old as Broun, you gotta give credit bron
is taking. He is taking the third option roll embracing that.

(01:03:37):
He has embraced that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
You might when he lands. Deal, that's what they're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
With his knees, you might disintegrate when he lands.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
Then what hey, listen, you know he ain't trying to
like power up, trying to trying to do none of that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
You can even think he can do it. I think
he just don't trust the confidence he don't want to
get and coming back from a major injury, confidence plays.
I don't think. I agree. I don't think it's confidence.
I think he is truly saving himself in the playoffs,
is truly saving himself. He's like every time I go

(01:04:15):
out there and play hardest fuck somebody falling into my knee.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Or because he is a very wild player. He is,
he is wild. He hits the floor a lot too.
Now the nigga does play hard to be so damn big.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
His the floor. He fucking does that ship and you
don't see that no more. He don't fall no more.
That shit hurt. He made a he's making business decisions.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
He It's not confidence, guys. Confidence, I don't know how
you think it. Have you ever saved yourself? Before saved yourself,
save myself. You went out there like I can't know myself.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Yes, and then when you go back, you like you
might not want to go to because you don't want
to push your ankle, whatever injury it is that you have. Yes,
So he's he has that on his mind. I can
guarantee you that he's like, I know I can do this,
but what if let me take it slow. We all
have done that. We all know how to play, not

(01:05:15):
to like get hurt. That's what he's doing. He's playing
not to get He's playing just not to get hurt
right now, because if you had the confidence, you fucking
ball out. It's confidence he African. He's gonna go out
there and fucking just go ball to the wall when
it's playoff time. I have no I have no doubt
in my mind. He's gonna try to just turn it
the fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
You're dropping the bag and just put it on nikes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Yeah, I can play with him. No, I'm not dropping
the bag. The whole point is to get the bag.
But he has he has max contracts. He should does.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
If those sketches are really fucking you up, you might
have to drop him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
But we don't know if he's the sketches or not.
Just said he has injuries before. It no better.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Kim Jong honk is crazy, by the way, Korean Korean
Jim Jong hon is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I like that. That's a Nike boots. That's crazy, so Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I want to ask this question, and this is show
I'm not a Donovan hater or may you can add
to it. I don't think Ty is number one option.
He's too small as your lead player a number one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
How about Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I'm not on Jaylen Brunston. That's the number one player,
so he's not a number one player. I think you
need a six to eight wing or elite big to
win chance. That's my thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
That's diabolical work. There's only one anomally short Jeh Curry.
Steph Curry is only normally Steph fucking He.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Didn't have a legit number two beside him. We don't
even know who number two was. You say Jordan Poole.
Sometimes you say Andrew Wiggins, right or wrong? My right, wrong,
Let's look at the footage, right a wrong? You said,
how good was Jordan? You can't even tell me who
the number two was.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
They had a lot of good players around him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Thomas was number one, Isaiah's and Steph those are the
only two anomalies. Yeah yeah, huh and never want a
chip conference to the final. He went to the finals.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Cool, but I'm just saying he went to the finals
or an AI like he didn't have no other old
star Shock and fucking Kobe on that team. Lynch, Tyrone Hill,
I just think the there's just I'm a data guy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Your numbers got a data guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
There's data is the way you disrespect a uh not
Aaron Andrew Wiggins, Jordan Poole, Clay Thompson, Draymond Green, those
guys around them. You disrespect those guys like they had
nothing to do with the point is you're trying to
say that Steph did the ship by yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
You're saying, oh, they didn't have a legit number two.
You can't even by yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Then all right, let's move on, because this argument have
all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
That's the number one. Move on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Let's move on from Steph. I don't think Tyres Maxi
is a number one. As you said, Earlieres, he actually
too small.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Did you say that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Got off the segment with that does he actually make
his teammates that much better?

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
How much gravity is Tyres max You get on the floor,
get on the court.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
I don't know, get a lot of gravity right now
he's gonna get your floor opens up thirty something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
I don't think the team opens up that much. The
floor opens up that much more for his team from
what I saw. I watched limited in minutes with the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
So you think you didn't think when John first came
in you didn't think he was the number one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I thought y'all had a potential because of how athletic
he was. I think Derek Rose and John Wall and
Russell Westbrook Maxi is not athletic. I just think Ja
was a different type of athlete. You think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Did you see Tyre's MAXI block the other night? Yes?
Jump this listen. I could.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
I thought Jaw was a different type of athlete. I
could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I'm not saying yes, John about six two, right? Yeah?
Six two? And how tall is uh? Derek Rose? This
argument makes no sense, bro. You went from a guy
who's literally just I did, but anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
He asked me when he first came in the league,
and then I saw his twenty twenty two year. But
I don't think so anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
So you believed in it then because he jumped high?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
No, because or did he have a good team gravity
that job would when he was coming off of picking
well going to the hoop, I thought, so you didn't
think Trell was I don't think would ever be a
number one on the championship team.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
I'm consistent with that. No, you are got that's my thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
You are.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
D Rose was a different type of special like the
Rose would have been anonomy to be. But clearly that
didn't work out because when I said it in the chat,
Lebron guarded him in the in the in the Eastern
Carvers Finals, he didn't score another point for the end
of the four minutes. And those those two games he
didn't have another basket. Or see six three six three,
Chauncey six to six six one. I think six six three,

(01:10:07):
but Chauncey. But let's that team was anomomally. Let's talk
about that's the best defensive team. But that's the best
that's the best defensive team ever. Ron wasn't the lead player.
It was k and Paul Pierce.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
He said, number one, number one option.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Let's be honest. The number every it was ripped Chauncey
and Rashid. That was a combination effort. You you watched
the finals, they had the best defense ever. That was
an anonymolygue. That's not the Donovan Mitchell team does not have.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
We have to name for you to say I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Okay, but you're not giving me an elite defensive team around.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Thomas a I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Okay, I didn't win, So he's went to the finals,
didn't win.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
We said a championship team, championship, had a championship finals.
What the fu? But he didn't win. He's saying NBA
Championship to actually win, you win with a small guard. Beware,

(01:11:11):
it's very.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Rare, and those guys aren't great enough for me to
say they are number one. Derek Rose was that great.
I can believe he could do it. That's how strong
I felt about Derek Rose's game. Derek Rose, if he
didn't get injured, is a top ten, top ten, top
fifteen player. In my eyes, I don't see maxi as that,
I don't see Brunton as that, I don't see don
as that. That's where I'm coming from.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Those are fucking elite scored.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
But that's what I'm saying. You have to be that
elite to be a six to three guard to win.
That's that's my point. I don't think those guys are
up there. I think you can have done.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
If you're that elite, you gotta get lucky and you
gotta have a good team around you. The point period
you you you would have never you would have never
done this. You would have never had this argument if
the Warriors didn't have that run, No.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
I would That was my I me and you had
the conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I said to you, I thought Andrew Wiggins needed to
step up big time and actually draw fouls and be
an elite six to seven guard to win six seven win.
I didn't think they were going to win.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
And then they guy who stepped up, Steph.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Played unreal that series.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Bro he did.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Steph had a crazy series.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Man, that was it. So you're telling me Donovan Mitchell
or Tyres MAXI I just don't believe it. They are.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
I said they can, but I don't believe it is that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Okay, okay, who's the number one? When JK was on
the nets.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Who was it? I was on them and they never won.
The Jay Kids also six y four and J Kid
is elite Defensively, He's one of the best passers ever.
Ja Kidd is that great? So if they did win,
I would say J Kid is that great. I don't
believe those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
On j kids level?

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Is that okay?

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Huh? John Stock call Malone was the number one?

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
He was?

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
U was right? No, say you was when you said
that Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
They were not mar is the number one?

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
He want didn't win m v P.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
I think Steve Nash was a catalyst. But if you're
talking about if you need a bucket, you want to Mary,
not Steve. But you're going to Mary, You're going with ma.
I watched everything.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I don't think he would have said Steve Nash is
the number one guy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I think Steve want number one to get He's not
number one to get a bucket. They're not going to
Steve the number.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
One, the number one. Steve Nash was the number one
option of the Phoenix team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Well, you know what, it doesn't matter my opinion is
because they never won. So that proves my point, right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
You got a point a point where the guys I
think they never won. I'm just throwing names out there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Give me a team that wasn't didn't have a lot
of elite players beside him, or were like, I don't
think Cleveland's lead, So I don't think he's a number
one on this Don is the number one on this team,
Maxi's this team has to be super lead the best.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
That's exactly the.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
Best, the best small so much help, the smallest, the
smallest number one guy that's that's ever won is Isaiah Thomas, period.
So my point that the Bad Boys Detroit, and that's
the only one I can think about. If you're talking
about smaller gulf, that one, that one that's it. Steph
doesn't count.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Steph counts. He's six six.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
What I would say to you guys, do you guys approved?
That is my exact point. If you're that small, you
need so much help to win.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
You have a you have somewhat of a point.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
That is my only point. I think Don is e lite,
but because of his size, it holds him back from
it's just not the same gravity. It's easier, it's harder
for you get a bucket. That's my opinion. I think
Tyr's Maxie is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Eleite as well. He just doesn't have the right team
around them.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
You need to have a lot of elite.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
You need to one be beside you because if they're
throwing who's the best, If they're Jared Vanderbilt on you,
how hard is it for tyreemax Eed to go get
forty on Jared Vanderbilt when you need to win versus
someone like Kawhi who can just get it easy turn
around jump.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Shot but safe. Steph can go get forty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
But Steph is gravity allows opens up his whole team
for the four first team, which makes it easier for
his team in that way, he doesn't have to be
on the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
These guys have to be on the ball to draw
that gravity. Steph doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
So you open up the whole four for the team.
So it's easier for your team to score when they
need a bucket if they're sending to it you or
three at you, because you don't need to have the
ball when they send two or three at you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Understand definitely need clay though, Oh no, Tony Parker might
make an argument.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Tony Marker Parker was then for number one, Timmy get.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
It Timmy Duncan was, but Tony Parker won finals MVP too.
Now the one point now he.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Was, yes, but I would say the number one was
obviously Timmy and then Manu was the one. They've been
buckets and clutchdown. I mean it was the sheriff mon
An Tony.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
I'm gonna be honest with you. I understand y'all saying
Hong has a point. I played again. I was on
the team that that Warriors team that beat us. It
wasn't just Steph. You couldn't help off Clay. He couldn't
help off Jordan Poole. Andrew Wiggins was in my opinion,

(01:16:11):
and this is just for me. What's the game changer now?
That Steph's gravity for sure, But you couldn't help off nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
That was the issue. You help off one, Okay, you
help on Steph. You still got Clay, you still got
Jordan Poole was fucking insane, like he was, he was insane.
But Andrew Wiggins may have been the most important player
on that He might have been the most important player

(01:16:42):
on that team. Are you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
After Steph? Of course he's the most important. If you
don't have Okay, you get what I'm saying. I have
to clarify that, yes, Steph is the best player, but
I'm saying as far as others. If you don't have
if I think, if you don't have Andrew Wiggins playing
the way he did, you're not getting there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
He was elite that season, yeah, play that much though
he was injured for Law of the Year, but he
did play some minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I mean he was.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
He was intugled to that team. Anyways, let's move on
from that. The socle Zion urge.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Peter, do we have the you're gonna talk about Zion again? Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
What what's upsetting you about Zion right now?

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Sir? Okay, yeah, what's wrong, sir? You can't stay on
the court.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
No, but so what somebody said, Mark Spears said that
former teammate, and I'm paraphrasing that he has lebron type talent,
but he didn't work as hard as Lebroun. You're fair
clearly run the clip because he's super towent.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Fair damn show people.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
I had no doubt in my mind that he could
be easily top five in this league if he stayed healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
This zero doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
This guy is fucking unguardable, but he can't stay healthy,
so he will never be shocked. This is this is generational,
This is ship.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
You can't teacher talent.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
He was a generational talent. And I'm not talking like
his career is over. We never know what can happen.
But to seven six eight, the way it's the it's
his power, the way he can pass the ball, the
way he gets downhilliky, how quick he second jumping.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
His second jump is insane. His career like this bad
spill happen right after that fucking playing game against the Lakers.
He had the Lakers beat himself hurt, had him beat
himself and got hurt, and it was downhill since then.

(01:18:58):
I mean it's been down here ever since then, every
since been messing with that Junke. I know Charlie is
about to say that I knew that was a lot
There's been a lot of growing injuries in the back.
Can't be a lot of there's been a lot of
growing growing, and there's a lot of work. There is

(01:19:21):
a right abductor. I mean he was trying to lay
on the side and get the little side joint. You
gotta find it. Ship. It's a lot to have that ductor.
Probably it is a bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Yeah, listen, we've all like phone rolling. Great point too.
We've never seen someone break a shoe.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Broken shoe. That's how strong he is. Our strength. Broken
shoe went through the shoe.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Yeah, man, shut oasis by the way, shallows, y'all got
anything left on the Zion conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Zion is tremendous talent, bro. I mean, obviously he had
no weight issue thing. Hey, he his bag though, I
guess that's the point. I really don't want him to.
He's played zero playoff games. He hasn't played in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
What but that's real, real, I think he played one
two years he's been No, he hasn't because he was
in the play and he got injured. For the player,
he's never been in the playoffs, he's never playing the
play in so playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
I mean, it's not his fault, bad team, it's his fault.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
His teams are good enough if he was healthy, if
he's healthy. Yeah, if he was healthy, teams are good enough.
Healthy because he had been an injury thing on you,
I know on you though he was Ray young, he
wasn't in shape those years he got injured, So I'm
putting that on him. This year is not his fault.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
He's in shape.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
Heid question, valid question here, Ray, I know you're not
answering this, if Zion go to another team and he's
still like this, is he a bus?

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
I don't think he's a bust. No, He's still showed
he can play. To me, a bus is some of
that can't like, I know, disrespect to Kwame Brown or
Anthony Bennet it, but when they played.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
It in, Brown is not a bus that I'm going
to end that why Brown's in the lead for a
long time. He was in the league and he was serviceable.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
But as a number one pick that I get.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
The number one pick, ship, it's not his fault. They
picked him number one, it's not his fault. So what
do you define as a bust? And Bennett is a bust?

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
That was But why is Anthony Bennett because.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Because he was there for three years and gone? So
Brown played over ten years. Kwammie Brown was very serviceable.
Y'all are leaders.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
I'll shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
I heard you, But I'm not going to say Brown
like that. That's like saying whoever is in jokis class,
whoever got picked before him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
No, I just I don't think Zion's a bus because
he showed he could play. It was just injuries that
held him back.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
But Deremmie Brown, uh analogy? If he's serviceable? How many
years he played? Double digit years? Didn't he?

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Yeah, Kwame Brown is about to kill me now Brown
social media?

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Social media?

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Okay, he played, I played with him. He played about
ten years in the league. He averaged six points and
six boards.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
That's okay, that's serviceable. He played ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Yeah, listen, if you guys looking at years, I can't
really talk.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
I'm not looking at the numbers. They picked the number
seemed to beat as a bus. You so my argument?

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
So he.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Went too straight, bobble head.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
What I would say, though, is that if you had
a good crewer, you held by because he got injured,
he's not a bus.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
You actually.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
That could who when he played, when he was healthy,
he could hoop man?

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
What about Marvin Bagley bro Ain't No one said d
Rose is a bus lead though Michael Candy is not
a bus. We ain't doing that. No, Old Candy was nice.
I want to say nice. He had some really good years,
have some really good years. It was good, though, I
want to say nice. I wouldn't say Anthony Bannon is
the best definition of a bust. He's a look at

(01:23:07):
a bus fucking Anthony Bandon's fucking faces and like real,
he knows it, he knows it. Come on, MA, Parker
is not a bust. He was Adam Morrison.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Adam Morrison, you might be able to say that he was.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
He was a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
The only played like I think, four years in the
was he dropped the top five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Top three. Adam Morrison play double, he got a championship,
got to ring.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Adam played four years. He's a two time NBA champion.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
My my fault, Michael Gil Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
You played with Adam, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Yeahot he could put the ball in the basket a
little bit. All right, let's move on from this conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
M KG. Darko Milicic is andre and a bust. M
that brings like.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
He played a bunch of years in the league. Twenty
one year, right, you played with him?

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Is he a bus? Right? Just so you know, I
got traded because.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Darko played ten years in the league, two or nine years.
He's not busting.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
He's not a bust.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
All right, We're gonna move on though.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Golden State Pat Spencer hooped out cool Cam Spencer's brother.
You know, yukng love they're winning without staph to t
better than pods. He's better than pods.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
What is pods got against you? Bro? Pat Spencer is
better than pods. I will say pods hoop yesterday, though
he hooped. Yes, have you seen Pat Spencer? He hooped
one game? Two games? Ready? You put him over pods? Sorry? Pat?

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Pats alright? I would say he's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
But who's older? Pat or Cam? Cam? I think pass older?
Golden State? Golden State's older. The thing about every kills it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
The thing about Pat though, is he was the goat
at lacrosse and he comes and plays basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Mixing and school.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
I want to say, no, it wasn't random. It was
like George Stown or something like that. No, Northwestern, sorry, Northwest,
that is random, very random. POD's lost me money because
he couldn't hit two threes. So let's talk about anyways.
Pull up the James Wiseman. You have aage sign. James
wam tripping Jonathan Kminga. They wont two games without Steph.

(01:25:29):
Pat Spencer had a breakout game and Kamingas struggled and
he had a d M p SA, which to me
is crazy. But in his last four games since he's
been back, he's averaged eight point eight points, five rebounds,
two assists on thirty percent shooting and with two turnovers
a game. They say he's looked really bad. I haven't
watched a.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Lot of your days are numbered in Golden State. The
fact that they had that issue early on in the
year and then he's played okay, and then now he
getting back to d MPs goes back to Steph Curry's
I mean Steph Steph Curry, Steve Curry's point to him

(01:26:11):
not playing him in the first place, because I think
Steve Kurt don't funk with him. But he felt a
little bit of pressure from the public, from the fans,
from front office that now he played him, he did okay.
Now he's back to you. See this is why I
didn't play him. So it hurts him. But his day
is a number in Golden Stay, I can promise you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
It was reported they're working for a trade trade till
January fifteenth because of his new signing deal.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
So he will on Calshi let him out. It's not on.
It's not on Calshi.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
It'sh Now she got some double doubles, some triple doubles,
some future events, but he is getting traded.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
The only trades they have right now. Actually, no, sorry,
you can trade.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
With you could. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You want to
pull up the Chi Calshi graphic. Come on, you said
it to us.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
I did, but him specifically, who's getting traded before the deadline?
I thought, I thought, you guys are yes, and it's
the bonus. It's not a great payout. Zach Levine is
the easy one. You put one hundred, you ge two
hundred three dollars. He's out of there. There's no way
he stays in Sacramento.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
It's Sacramento. He's out of there. But it's Sacramento though.
Somebody got it. Yeah, and sacrament and I picked no one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
You're honest, because I just don't think he's gonna move
to the off season.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I agree, I agree with why.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
I just don't think he's being moved into the off season.
Make sure you guys use promo cobaja. By the way, hey,
if you guys want to make money against us, because
you're not trading against the house, you're trading against us.
Make sure you guys use that promo code and see
if you can take our money. Aha, put your money down,
put your money where your mouth is pauses the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
No, no, but you need to do something with him.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
He hasn't look great though when he played. He's been out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
But then again, as you would say THEO, I'm not
gonna say you're wrong, it might go to Steve System.
Maybe the system just asked with old stuff and players
look worse.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
That's true, though not everybody's saying he don't fit. Don't
I think he fits? I just don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
You guys talk about how certain guys we.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Didn't know this ship before the season started. Now we
thought he was gonna fit, comeinga bro. I don't think
he was gonna I don't think he was gonna fit.
This is my thing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Why do you think this is? This is what frustrates me.
Why did you think something was gonna change just like
that with their relationship. As soon as ship goes bad,
what happens. I think you can game as soon as
ship goes bad. So now I don't know about this one.

(01:28:52):
I mean it's it's been. I mean he cost him
how much money?

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Probably like sixty ms.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
I don't know how much I would fuck with you
cost me that much money?

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Well, let me think about it. So he's making twenty
five a year basically. Now he probably would have made
maybe twenty eight thirty. So he probably cost them about
if he doesn't get another contract, probably about twenty thirty million.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
It's just it was just a recipe for disaster and
the ebbs and flows of an NBA season. There's gonna
be bad times. So with that being said, as soon
as it gets bad, you know who they're gonna go to.
And then yesterday they played the Chicago Bulls. You get
them with dnp you win without him. Then you're like,
uh so you see what happened. We didn't need them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Now this is all with Steve Curtin needed Now he's like, oh,
I don't need to play him.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
We're good. I got Pat Spencer. He played the Bulls
and pods he played the Bulls.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
But they did beat the calves, which we do got
to talk about back then. They did beat the fucking calves.
They're eighth in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Calves are scruggling, which is surprising, I understand. Not calves
are struggling.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
We go talk about them tomorrow because the ain't playing today.
We don't talk about them tomorrow, all right, But they struggling.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
He told you what issue that ship, Pardner, that's the issue.
And they're fucking nice. They are a bunch of nice,
bunch of nice guys.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Bro and what is Oklahoma City? They got some toughness
over there though. Doors. Do you know who's playing with
all nice guys? Hey? You know who's not playing well? Hunter?

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
DeAndre Hunter, he's not playing with it. I will see
Don's been hooping. Don's still doing this thing so.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
The time there's a situation where if he if he
has to get his flowers, you're normally a don here.
No I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
I've said Donna is a great player. I just said
in the playoffs, don't think he's number on option. That's
all I'm said. He I've stuck on that point. I've
said he's elite hundreds of times on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Shore.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
If he has to get hard every single night for
you to win the game, that's a recipe for disaster
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Like you like I think you said this one time.
If you're leading the league in scoring, probably not a
good sign for.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
Your team.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
Unless you're Luca. Apparently that's true, unless you're Luca or
bron Pete. You good, Pete he's good, Pete. Are you
about to do a Christmas card after this?

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
I'm looking at it. I'm trying to figure it out.
But that's a good one. He looks like about to
do family portrait.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
He always dresses though, you know, Peter looks like he's
Peter's Christmas card. Ready, it's that time of the year.
Let's talk about James. Let's get back to our Calshi
thing quickly. Peter, can you pull it up?

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Ray?

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Why did you put your honest.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
You look at the make of this team. They've been
talking about it there. He tried.

Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
He tried to play hard and try to wield his
team to some wins. And they got some wins, and
they started off fairly decent. But that thing, that ship
is sunk. They're going downhill, bro. And I feel like,
if you don't trade him, because his contract is that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Right contin he's still in the contract two years, well.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
I mean, I guess you would still get some for
him in the summer. But if if the plan is
we're going to trade you, why not go ahead and
trade me now and go and get me to a
team where I can, you know, try to play for
something you know, don't don't waste that man. Don't waste
the whole year of this man like just playing for

(01:32:35):
no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
I feel like he's the type of guy that doesn't
want to trade mid teasers though. That's why I picked
up agree. I think transition.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
I think with his family not being with him in
Milwaukee helps his families with him. Ship ain't the brother
with him on the team. He's going with him to brothers,
both brothers, yeah, or one of the J League. No.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
I think he's on the main roster and the g
he might be a two way. He's a two way,
but he's up there with them.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
He might be up there.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
That's all in the contract. It's all in the negotiations
with both of my brothers are coming with you. Thin
never goes anywhere at all.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
No, not this year, not this season.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Just before the deadline, that's the question.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Questions before the deadlines. Now you seen Milwaukee, they look bad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
I just don't think he's leaving.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
He's not leaving. Nope, that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Could it be a Kobe situation though, because.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Who they gonna get? Who are you going after? Could it?
But could it be a Kobe situation?

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
You get a high pick, you trade the pick for
another talent, you run it back like they might try
to sell the more.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
That if san Antonio give them what they want, think
about it. You have to you have to see because
this year's draft is so strong, you have to see
what teams is where, and then you'll go to that team.
Hey I want the number two pick. Hey I want
the number one pick. Hey, I want.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
Somebody's gonna do it. Not mid seasons, somebody, somebody's gonna
give him something mid season. No, Bro, you have to
have the proper amount of time to evaluate know who
you want this summer as far as draft picks. Because
this is a big draft. It's a good draft. So

(01:34:15):
you don't want to sit here and wait, Yiannis, are
you gonna come back? Jannis, you're gonna come back? And
then at the very end, now I ain't coming back
off ship fun Now we gotta we gotta do this.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
I just don't see it happening, bro, Like no, I
can't see it happening the off season. I don't see
happening mid season. That's just my point.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
I agree, I'm went home. I think it's gonna happen. Yes,
you always want to bet, I want to trade legal
in all fifty states.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Back to both of you guys, So why do you
guys pick the bonus.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
It's not a good, it's not a great. It seems
he's a odd man.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
You have to put one hundred and eighty six for
one hundred dollars. I don't know if it was the best.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
He's the odd man out and it's obvious. Yeah, he's
definitely getting traded. He's getting traded safe. Yeah, yeah, I
went safe here for sure going. Yeah, he's for sure going.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Hey, listen, we are going to put some of our
Calci stuff up soon. If we're up or down, Yeah,
I got I'm gonna start on that tonight. But we
gotta start putting some people see it. So we're gonna
see down who's who's up the most or who's lost most.
Kyrie to the wolves, that's not happening. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Kyrie to the wolves.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
They reported that the Wolves are interesting. I don't think
Mark does it though. I think Mark wants to see
what the team has. But could you imagine a man
and Kyrie together.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Because a hooping I can see John Moran, I mean
they got job Minnesota. Who doesn't get blitzed by Okay,
see y'all see Memphis winning. Yeah see John half Court
ready to fight again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
So with job bro, let me ask you, guys this
as an m as an NBA player, when you're out
and you have drama around you, don't you just want
to stay out of the limelight as much as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
We'll leave it at that, what it's supposed to be.
Let's leave it at that, bro, Let's leave at that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
We don't talk about John Moore. James Harden scored a
couple of baskets to put himself in the top ten
list of all time. Do you want to run the clip?

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Watch that's the that's not there's a free throw that
put him to prom.

Speaker 6 (01:36:32):
Jury top ten all time, James Harden.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
What are your guys thoughts? James, I'm a fucking legend,
is nah? Oh? I was like, damn, he's rightfully, so
what is the score? He's having a bad year though,
What does this mean for him? Nothing? For me? Still,

(01:37:03):
I mean it means he can fucking score. I'm saying
he's one of the best to ever do it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Has your thoughts or mind changing around him? All the
same shit? No, the same ship one of the most
elite scores that ever played the game. I mean it's
pretty sure. Is he top twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
Who's a good question that is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Now top twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
You gotta win. A good topic to discuss tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
I think you gotta win to be top twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
Can we do that tomorrow? You want to ran the
top red list top twenty five? Yeah? Why not? Is
he top twenty five, top twenty five of all time
or today all the time time? No, it's gonna be
hard for him to crack that twenty five, buddy, So
you won't put any of the top ten scores. And
then you think, talk about what you're saying. He's an MVP,

(01:37:52):
he might have to top twenty. Think about what you're saying.
He's a top ten score all time. It's not top
twenty five in a whole NBA. It's definitely tough. Think
about what you're saying. Right now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
We gotta talk about it. You gotta talk about sleeping bro.
You're not putting in the top twenty five and he's
the top ten score. MVP candidates I mean not candidate v.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Close because I'm sitting here thinking, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
I thought you're doing one of the things where you're sleeping,
because I'm just.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Like this, just like just thinking like I got you. No, No,
let's let's talk about it tomorrow. He's not over. I
got a chance to look at some names. You gotta
look at your names now, I don't think so he's not.

Speaker 5 (01:38:37):
I might come in here like a notebook like my
boy Kmart might come in with a notebook with some
names with twenty with twenty five names before James, I.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Think I can name twenty five people. I can't. I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
For me, you gotta win a chip to be in
my top twenty No, I'm sorry, that's just mighty. That's
what Robert Horry in your top twenty five? No, so
then what are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
But when we define careers that are like I have
wait over him?

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
All right, you got to come up with a criteria
of who's your top, what's our top? What's to the
Baja's top twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
I think everybody's subjective. No, I said for to the
Baja nigga, Damn, I don't know that's a group is.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
By the way, also too, are we going to talk
about his Game seven performances and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
Yeah, clarify bro as a how we how we? How
are we doing this? Are we going just straight player playing?

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
We're doing resume, We're not doing you want to do
resumes exactly? What do you want to fuck it? Does
got a resume? Now? He just hasn't won the championship
resume resume. His resume is crazy resume and player combined
gold medalist. Okay, if we talking resume, he has a
great resum.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
I'm talking about everything. It's your accomplishments, your resume and
your you have. It's top twenty five. We have to nitpick.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
You just said, but you said championship earlier. Yes, that's
part of it. That's your resume.

Speaker 5 (01:39:57):
So I think you're you value champ ship a lot.
How to the top seventy five of all time? It
just came out. He's in twenty five. He's in there,
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Let's top listen, I think I think top seven just
came out. He didn't make that list. Is James Harden better?
Is he in James Harden?

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Yes, that's our next thing. So we're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
James Harden for the who mellow? All right, we're talk
because you play with him? Ray That's why I get it. Ray.
You look one thing about you, Ray, I learn you're
a lawyer. Motherfucker b That's why to fuck with you, bro.
You loyal, That's how I fuck Ray is strong. This
is this is a clip for today, the clip for today, though, right,

(01:40:42):
I love it wrong, but you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
But hold this is a clip for today. What does
it do to Melo's legacy? So I'm gonna talk about it, right,
And no disrespect to Mellow. He's no longer the top
TENNI scoring because James knocked him out. This was a
tweet Jokis took his number fifteen in Denver. He's not
the greatest Olympian because the're calling Katie that. Now, this
one's just all trolled the rest of his troll. New
York's no longer city because of Brunson in the modern days,

(01:41:06):
sid this is what people are saying. And then LaMelo
balls trying to take his name. But what does it
actually do for his legacy because he kicked out of
the top ten of scoring because that was a big
stamp for him, what does it do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
To his pushing back a little bit? I think, But
Mellow is a fucking icon. It's metow top twenty five.
This is real question. That's the real question. Maybe neither
one of them. Not maybe, And I'm gonna go through
my list tonight. I don't see Mellow twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
I don't see James twenty five. Fair enough, It's hard
for me to put James in front of Mellow. He
has an MVP and I I mean he has MVP.
If you put a Pete uh, Pete put put uh,
he's one more.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
He's put Carmelo Anthony's and Jane Harden's accomplishment, he's.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
One more than he's ahead of him is scoring. He
has an MVP resume player. I think they both can
get a bucket any time they want to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Why when you compare the resume, Peter.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
I mean Curtin knows where to pull it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
Curtin knows how to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Yeah, I Curta is back there, but used the comparison side.
Let me send the link to Peter.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
We got it. We got it. Don't fucking doubt fucking Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
No championships nineteen years, seventeen years, playoffs made, thirteen to
sixteen All Star Games. James Harden is more season MVP
James harden All first time, six to zero, eight to six,
three to one. I have him over. What are we
talking about? Ray's rolling with his boy? Bro? You know

(01:42:43):
what now if Ray roll with his boy after scene?
The stats, right, we got something one right now? Something
wrong with me? The twenty two to twenty four to
twenty Ray, He's loyal, bro. I respect it, I respect it,
But come on, Ray, coming sense. Damn Mellow has never
been first team. He's never been first been first team.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
I mean, you have to beat Lebron. Remember it's very.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Then, diabola, that's diabolical work. Who will never never.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
When was he beating up Broun?

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
Never being Bron?

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
He was never beating Braun. Remember back then it was
position based. It wasn't two forwards. It was literally small fortunes.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
I will say that Lebron, uh, Lebron James has Carmelo
Anthony's Rookie of the Year award.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
Yeah, that's that's the thing they said to you. That's
the other thing that said to you. I had to
mention that it's like le Bron has his Rookie of
the Year award.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
That's the fact. But you saw the numbers, right, maybe
one or two categories. Have Melo got James over? But
six to zero first team all NBA A big bank.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
I mean there's more than twenty five MVPs all time,
So that might be the reason why he said, how
can the MB not be top twenty five? How can
who VP be not not be top twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
That's fair?

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
You know what's a great argument? Though you have Charles
or do you have James ahead? Coach Barky, I would
have a fucking comparison ship and that will tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
But listen, we gonna talk about it tomorrow, right, I
like it this sement on that. Uh, let's talk about
Franz Man. There is a nasty injury, Peter. Want to
run the clip?

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Ah? I feel bad for Franz. This hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
That wasn't a wild contest, right, What did he do?

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Now you'll see his knee. He just hit the back
of my fucking knee. Want a different direction? Alright? I'm
not watching it, alry. I mean they don't really see it.
Maybe this angle he just collapsed behind it like that?
Oh yeah, now you see it. All right, let's take

(01:44:53):
off the clip, Peter. It's bad sucking up your knee
with a fucking Batman mask on two, Like, damn, you
gonna keep you ain't hurt fan, that's ship crazy. You
got the fucking nose problem. Now you funk up your knee.
So Pollow's back. He was gonna make the too. Franz
was is he? Is he out for a minute? Did

(01:45:14):
they say what?

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
I think he's gonna be out for now? They're doing
mr today, he's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
Out for a minute. That's exactly hopefully not. But I don't.
I can't see him. That could be like a spraying
something that's at least six eight weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
He did something to the knee, no question. Well now
we see, we'll get a simple size.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
Now, fellas get to see a follow ain't gonna look
as good as when we saw all Frans without Apollow.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
We'll find out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Now, let's see how good it looks without Franz. And
now you go, now your nose, your number one guy.
You'll figure it out. You're gonna figure it out here
and then coming games. I agree with Heim gonna be
the same Ordlando team. I'll tell you that much. That
was a tough fall. God sitty recovery, brother speedy recovery.
He's been hooping too. Yeah, he's been getting to it.

(01:46:02):
He was for sure going to baha.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
He's been getting to the baha. All right, this is
something we have to do last week. But we're gonna
dive into now. Who is the greatest second option of
all time?

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Second bad graphic Steph Curry Katie was number one. Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
Okay, do you want to put KD into the stuff
we kt Okay, we put Kevin Durant.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
Kobe Rant was number two.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
To Shack.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
Scottie Pippen was number two, to the Thing, to the
m J. Kyrie was number two.

Speaker 5 (01:46:42):
I mean, I think the best second is Steph is
always going to be the number one option, because then.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
I think the best number two option of all time
is pretty easy. Kobe Bryant, Scottie Pippen, bro what what
he's the best Batman? I mean, Robin, He's the best. Robin.
This is drinking over there. Okay, you see on the
curse screen right now. I'll tell you this. This is
why I think he's the best. Can I give you

(01:47:10):
my reason? No, I don't give it to you anyway. No,
I don't want to hear it. No, And I'm gonna
give it to you, and I'm not gonna let you
do this.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
I'm not gonna let you do this. Look look at
the list again. I think you don't see him popping
his collar.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Yeah, but I don't think he's the number two options?

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
So are we using kat or Steph? We're using Katie?

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Right? I think you put the number two.

Speaker 5 (01:47:31):
I think if you the next thing closes to m J,
you're not a number two, You're number one. I'm sorry,
but hold up. This was also young Kobe too, though
he was, but Kobe was number one after that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
Yeah, Kobe is I would never looked at Kobe as
a two option.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
This is also twenty two year old twenty one year
old Kobe. I also wanted to find out as well.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
The wrong picture. No, that picture is number twenty four.
That's not.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
We're talking about number championship that Kobe. All right, we're
talking about ain't Kobe is still Kobe?

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
I don't know you're talking about thirty year old KD
versus twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
Two year old Cob. It's still Kobe.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
I'm going I would go with Steph if it was Steph,
but I'm going Katie.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
It's still Kobe. You are I don't give a fuck
what you're talking about. There's no mentality up there. It's
fucking sick. It's Kobe Bryant, I got KD. You're gonna
lose Ascar Robinson with Kareem. That's a gold one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
This is a good Oscar was at the end of
his career though, Like if you go look at the numbers,
he wasn't Oscar that we remember.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Skynie Pivveen to me is a clear.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
Let's run the clips.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
This is run.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
I mean I don't run, Steph run Kai.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
We're not even showing the number two clips though.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
These are the number two. This is in twenty sixteen,
twenty seven, twenty he won a chip.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
I thought my fat I was thinking about the man
when they want a chip. That was my fault. That
was Will's fault, but I should corrected it on his
mass picture. This one. Kyle was definitely different. TI is
definitely different. I mean a finish, oh kind of ship.
This nigga his finishes. Yeah, did you switch? That's disrespect

(01:49:16):
So fucking nice. Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
Gotta get a little fake flag or foul here and there,
a little nice okay, listen, bro. First of all, Steph
was number two I don't really know.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
What I think. I don't I don't really know who.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Look at him, cooking Harrison was the number two.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
Options on that team. Steph was never number two options.
That wasn't the best player on that team. That's like
saying Kobe was the number two. We know Shack was
the most dominant Shack, you know, but you can never say.
You can never say Kobe Bryant or Seph Curvey was
the number two. You can never say that. Give me
the numbers. You never say Kobe and Steph Curry was
number You can't say that. I think it was a Noah,

(01:50:03):
stop guys. Look at this, guys. He made he made
number four, number four in the single.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Which finals you want? Seventeen or eighteen, don't matter, which
one you want?

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Was very close. Eighteen was very close, don't matter, no eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
So Katie average thirty five in the finals average.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Don't say the fuck the finals. Don't say the final
dollar that finals MVP. Yeah, but we're talking about we're
talking about to know what I'm saying, don't talk about
the final, talk about the whole season, because you're basing wish.
The question is if he's the number two player, so
we're basing off the finals alone. Didn't say that. It

(01:50:46):
was clear to me. It was clear, say final the favorite.
Hong is very strategic, No favorites him. He's averaging thirty
five the finals. They both averaged twenty five that year. Okay,
that's how you talk about that the whole seat, talk
about the whole season. Is the guy second? KD was
the guy not who took the big It was Katie

(01:51:08):
who took the big sorry, who took the big shots?
Who did they get a ball to at the end?
I'm sorry, or you give the ball to at the end,
either one of them? KD.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
They gave it to Kati at the end. We know
that that big shot here against against Lebron.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Toe number one when Kobe was eight, when he was
first Kobe the Lakers, whose team was it?

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
It was Steph's team, but the number one option to
get a bucket with Steph, I.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
Mean exactly agreed to disagree. Okay, Yeah, Shaq was the
number one guy. Kobe and Steph Kurby would never be
considered as the number two guys. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Shaq was number one.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
We all know that for the first championship ran the table.
He was the envy. The Lakers were the shin shot.
Shot would never be a number two guy either. He
never won a championship, never won a championship without Kobe.
Kobe won a championship without Shock. He won't wan with W.

(01:52:13):
He won with WA.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
He won with the one one. You're right he did.
You're right, they did. You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
So so so what is your What is the argument
right now? Because the argument is.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
Guys, he averaged forty and sixteen of those guys, both
of these hold on shack, no, no, no, I'm listening.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
Forty forty in the finals, not number.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
One the final ship rolling okay, okay, my rolling with that?
Give me the guys finals.

Speaker 5 (01:52:46):
Okay, and step can never be number twos because the
guys that you're saying number one they still won without them.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
They still won without them. So you can't say there
are number two guys. There are still number ones. They
play with a number one, they play with they play
with another number one. But argument, play with another number one,
But they also won championships without those guys. Is that
not argument?

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
It is not the number two guys. The literature says,
the best second option of all time. They were the
second options on those teams.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
Oh god, that is the argument rate.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
It's the best second They were the number two of them,
the best second option. Are you ready for the shack
stats versus Kobe season? Yeah, thirty thirty fourteen and four
and three blocks.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Kobe was twenty three, six and five. So who's the
number one option?

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
Charge is not disrespect the code though, it's really not
disrespect run the Kobe because you know what it is
up to twenty four and eight? This is this is
a Kobe. Yes, twenty four difference, there was twenty four,
that's my thought. But eight, okay, eight a Kobe.

Speaker 3 (01:54:02):
He was only twenty two at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
Ray, It's okay, But Shaquille O'Neill, what's the best player? Yeah? Clearly.
Once you tell me one. Once't you tell me the stats. Listen,
it was throw the ball to him. If he don't
got it cold, go to work, go to work. Facts.
I understand that we're not saying that, but I'm saying
that you still can't call him a number two guy.

(01:54:25):
It was the number four hearing from for that time
with in the league. It ever we noticed this is right.
I get what you're saying. I just can't never but
its number four stiff huh, number eight Kobe, I get
that and Shaq after reading those numbers averaging three blocks,

(01:54:48):
double digit rebounds, and thirty points.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
I'm gonna be honest with you. I meant to talk
about this the other day. Jack has to go down.
It's probably top five players ever to play the game. Yeah,
I think he cannot be bumped because this is what
and I'm frustrating myself and everybody does this. We always
do this criteria for Shack that is kind of that
discredits him a little bit. We always say he's the

(01:55:12):
most dominant. Okay, so why is the most dominant? Why
is that not a factor in him being top five? Ever,
I'm not I don't disagree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
If he's the most dominant we've ever seen, and we
know we never see it, why is he not top
five because we always say this, we always see this
guard because he's not the most skilled, right, he just
was stronger than everyone ever ever? Think he was skilled.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
Think it might be the resume, what longevity? Those are
argument you can make said, that's why I said the
top three, the top.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Who do you have? Who do you have? Shock or
or stuff? This would be me. I would say Jordan
Kareem uh Bron Kobe uh cob hm hmm magic magic
Shaq Kobe. No, I don't Shock over. He is young,

(01:56:22):
he is very No, but he was he he's old
enough to watch Kobe play more than watch Shack. No,
I go, I go Kobe Shack, I Goby.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
I have Tim over Shack too. Sorry, I can't put
I have Tim over Shock. I can't put Tim over.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
It's just because of the resume. I can't put Tim over.
Tim Duncan is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
The only player to win in three different generations ninety nine,
two thousand and twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
Ten putting Tim Duncan overshot. Sorry, I can't. It's fair.
It's an argument. It's definitely, guys, We're definitely an argument. Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
Me Let me ask all, Let me ask you the
three this, and y'all can answer this in the chat too.
Do y'all think we'll ever see anybody like Shack ever again?

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
No, but I don't think you've ever seen absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (01:57:04):
I mean different errors. We have a better chance of
getting another Bron. We have a better chance to getting
another Steph. We have a better chance of all of those.
We have no chance of seeing another shock.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Not I think we see it as a dominant, yes, Wemby,
I think we'll see another version of shot as a dominant.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Like you can't, you can't No matter what you do,
you're not stopping. He's getting his fucking thirty points. I
don't think you ever see another shock. I don't think
we have. But it's a different era. I don't seen
another era.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
I don't think we'll ever see another Broun.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Let me, let me, let me explain this to me.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
And I didn't notice that till today. Y'all can explain
this to me. How does a man average forty and sixteen?
And that's how the game was played to take away
them paint? Back then you played too, bigs, How do
you average forty and sixteen?

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Because he was a month Can I give a final?
Can I give you a crazier staffe? Ridiculous?

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
He averaged thirty four and fourteen in his NBA Finals career.
Kind of nuts. Thirty four and fourteen, that's his averages
in the finals. And let's be real, Oh that's with
la that was his prime.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
I think Shaq, I don't know, guys, jack Over, I'm
not doing that if we're talking player, I think Koreem's
accolades are insane. The Shack dominate Kareem. Let me ask
you this. You talk about accolades right the Shack no
answer my question? You on the Shack dominate Kareem.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
I think they both give each other problems on both. Yes,
he does, Okay, he does.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
The Shack dominate Karee. Let me ask you this. If
you had to pick one right now, are you picking
Shack or Kareem? If you're going down, we all picking
Jordan first? Who's your second pick? I want to you, guys,
go ahead. I want to ask a question now, who's
your second pick? I haven't seen Kareem enough. I haven't

(01:59:05):
seen Kareem enough for me to say that too. I
mean I've seen I've seen enough clips, but I've just
seen Shaq just fucking I just think Shank is gonna
run through Kareema. Anybody, anybody that Lakers Shack is pound
for pound, He's better than anybody except Jordan's.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
So can I ask you us a question? Winning is
shows how dominant you are, right, It's cause and effect.
He is the best winner we've ever seen basketball over
m J.

Speaker 1 (01:59:35):
Kareem mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
He clearly was dominant because the resume shows he was dominant,
So why is that? Why are we holding that against
Cream because he wasn't as physically imposing. He won, he
lost what two games in high school? We said, saw
he won three national championships, he won six to five.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
Agree, y'all told you I'm definitely Kareem.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
So my argument is is like it is like, yes,
Shack was physically done what we saw, but the numbers
and stats and show what Cream, how dominant Cream was
because Michael isn't six and oh if he's not dominant
on the floor, the resume shows how good you were,
So we do got to take that in the effect.
So it's tough for me to not say Cream. And
then if you want to really argue, I mean, both

(02:00:17):
of them had a top five player. We both have
Magic and Kobe in the top five, so that's not
a fair argument. Both of them had a top five
player beside them. So it's tough for me to just
say Shack automatically is you're so much? Cream was so
dominant winning everywhere he played three Natties.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
What's up, Pete?

Speaker 4 (02:00:36):
Look, bro, I just wanted to put that out there
that we I do agree that we have to stop.
We always do this with Shaq.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
Yeah, Shaq was We always say Shaq was very good,
but he was the most dominant. So we can't put none, no, no,
he needs to be up there because Shaq is fucking
We don't know who can stop him.

Speaker 6 (02:01:01):
What's the answer to the fucking question? The initial question
that is a top five it's shock is shocked, the
initial question. Everybody's graphic.

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
Who with? Oh, the best? Number two is Kobe? Who
you rolling with? Pip Ray?

Speaker 3 (02:01:21):
You're not rolling with Kobe and kat So who you're
going with? Pip Ross Kyrie?

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
For sure? You go Pip Yeah, I mean I just
don't think Kobe is the number two guys. That's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
That's in the video though, so he's not.

Speaker 1 (02:01:36):
Yeah, okay, number this is our clip today. Who's your okay? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:01:41):
Let me start off by saying that Kobe Bryant is
not a number two. And those numbers and number two
he's number two. Neither one of them is not the
number two, number.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
Number eight Kobe, it's number eight Kobe, number eight, Kobe,
he's number two. He is number two.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
If it's number eight, Kobe then I'm going Kobe, that's fair.
I'm going with Steph Curry.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
Of course, Steph Curry is not a number two whatever.
Kat was the number one, go Pip number and you
think that's.

Speaker 2 (02:02:12):
Really that crazy twenty twenty eight year old Steph.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
You know m VP that after that, Pip is the
best number two option because he got six being the
number two. Hold up? Hold up? Who did that? Fair?

Speaker 3 (02:02:28):
Who did he win anything with Mike?

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
He took him to the finals or Eastern Conference finals
without him, They still won sixty some games without him.
Kobe won two without him. Yeah, Kobe, that's what. Kobe's
not a number ray, but that's twenty four Kobe A
Kobe was cold about a Kobe and twenty four we

(02:02:52):
gotta take. We gotta judge him as such. He involved evolved,
which which Pip is?

Speaker 4 (02:02:58):
This?

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
Yeah? Which Pips is? Good? Question? The second options whole career? Yep,
because of second because he plays with the behind of
all time. He said that was a problem to Okay,
make sure did Pip win sixty plus games without him?
He did twice, so meaning win sixty plus games.

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
But we're talking about when he was the second option.
You can't use first option, Pip, you gotta use second option, pip.

Speaker 1 (02:03:27):
Okay, So the second option. He's the second option because
he got six rings. Championships is a thing, right, that's
part of it. That's championships. Were looking at championship. That's
part of it. Championships you got six, all of them.
That's part of it. I'm going with. I respect it
all right.

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
Why are you mad for mad? A?

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
Well, appreciate the love. That's another show up to the Baja,
Shout out the couch, shout out the oasis.

Speaker 4 (02:03:53):
We'll appreciate the love. We getting bigger and better. We
are growing every single day. Yes, y'all are the best.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:04:00):
Pull up tomorrow, same time, eleven and one Central tweter
two Eastern time. And we got a big time debate tomorrow,
big time debate. Tune in, baby, make sure y'all tune
in to shout out to the oasis.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
We out of here. Peace

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