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November 11, 2025 β€’ 134 mins

The guys kick things off with laughs and CV’s clip of the day before reacting to breaking news—Nico Harrison’s firing by the Mavericks. They dive into the Orlando Magic’s hot streak, Giannis’ place in the top five, and whether he’ll stay loyal to Milwaukee. Zach LaVine’s comments on Sacramento’s defense and Cade Cunningham’s historic start spark heated takes. The guys discuss mounting NBA injuries, the Clippers’ disappointing form, and which teams have underwhelmed most. Wemby Watch returns alongside Kon Knueppel’s standout play, Sebastian Telfair’s return to the projects, and a real conversation about NBA money and financial decisions.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yea, what's going on? I am not wearing the same outfit.
The last outfit was best you are, keep it, we
could pull it up. The last one was one hundred thieves.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
No, that's the same joint. Got kicked out the crib.
You got kicked out, I'll bet you that right now.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
You got kicked out.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
The crab out.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
You had to sleep on the couch? Were before the
couch is comfortable? You've been kicked out the crib. Nope,
all right, that's it. With your money where your mouth is.
All right, we'll move on.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
But y'all listen, we got a special show today. Obviously,
we got three national champions in the building. Two thousand
and four NBA NCAA champion Charlie v Yukon's one of
the Yukon's finest, Yes, sir. And we got two of
North Carolina's finest they've been felt in. Two thousand and
five National champion Yo. And we got twenty seventeen national

(00:53):
champion in the building Field Penson and hey man, hey listen,
shout the club five to twenty. I don't know what
they say. They didn't really say too much on that,
right and see.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Clip chatter shout out to them.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It is amazing. Said you know, we'll take a two one too.
Then they said, oh Hong was talking and ship too,
like he wants to smoke with behead was about it,
yokelvin Yukon is not division two. They got six of
them things. It's gonna be honest with you. That's this
is disrespectful. Was a messing like that, unc worldy not
fineans I like that. Introduce you guys as you.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I appreciate the star.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I appreciate that. Shout to star. We see gu Alpho,
Jordan Young, you're going crazy. Early before we even got
into chat, Kurt's on Kurts in Chicago right now. I
saw Kurt in the chat. But listen, we.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Will get Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
T's in the building. That's what's up. We will get
to Nico after we addressed a couple of quick things.
Rob pull up the Reddit title.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
See macho happening in from what up? Yea yea.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
The red the red of the image. Bro sloaded hand.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
We are production team is still not there yet.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
There whoa dick off the dribble. It finishes hard with
two hands. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Is why YouTube talking fan? Hello holo, that's an actually,
who who put this?

Speaker 4 (02:27):
You can do that? That is absolutely diabolical.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's Grady great.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Name is great, Grady dick Off beat.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Dick Off the dribble finished it with the two hands.
That's the.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
About it. You have to call this man by his genius.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
You have to call this man we're talking about it?
Why are we talking about that headline? That's true, it's
a good marketing play. I don't see this.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
It is, but you have to call this man by
his whole name. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Hey, By the way, I forgot the oasis. Shout out
to the oasis. Make sure you guys will get yourself
so might get my where's my where's my oasis? Bro?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I need my oasis?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Rob?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Please Rob, we.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Need some oasis.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
If you don't get.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Camera, let's get Rob with camera.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
What's throw up?

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Everybody? Why is he running like that? You know there's
four brothers in the family, and they say what flavor
do you want? They don't matter.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
They always say, you know me blue raspberry. One might
go the other way.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
It was good today, oas I'm on my water. That
title is crazy, though. When I saw Yesterda, I said,
we had to react to it strawberry blue raspberry.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Let me get the strawberries.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
And just so y'all know, we will be talking about
Nico right after we play Charlie's Couple of the Day,
So don't go anywhere. We talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Appreciate you, robbing.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
And by the way, just so, just so we're all
locked in, there's only about out of our viewers, only
about thirty percent of you guys are subscribed, So make
sure you hit the subscribe button for us for sure
makes you join our discord. Robin ful of the discord
a little bit, I'll send the link and make sure
y'all join our playback TV. We're going live tomorrow, Huck
the discord play back tomorrow tomorrow. Yeah, they remember, they

(04:17):
changed it, they changed it. But listen, let's play Charlie's
Couple of the Day. This further is our argument on
Rudy Gobert. Once you're ready, rob, it's some audio, no no,
because the music copyright US.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Gotcha as play in America. Sol Booty was with the
audio would be a lot better though, but bro, we
can't use the audio. Yeah, I got it, I got it.

(04:51):
I just try to show my boys in love.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
You know what. I mean, they have big Rudy go
Bear fans.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
You're getting off the set now. All the fridge is open.
I'm ready on devant. Let's get to the baja. Let's
pull up the graphic man. Nico Harrison has reportedly been
let go or he will be let go.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I had.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
You had a jam comment. Yourbot will be working at Nike.
That's what all happened.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, it's a tough one. They say he was he was.
I mean it seems reported. Is it official? Wells reported
that it will be taking, it will be done. It's
done a tenth central, so it probably happened an hour ago.
And then Michael Finley and Matt McCarty will lead basketball operations.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
McCarty is my guy who that he will lead it.
What's what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Michael Finley, he will, he will lead basketball operations with
Matt McCarty. Riccardi is still in Finnish, still in He
got hit with the Rico charge, You right, did Rico?
Nico got that.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Watched the game a little bit. The fans, your home fan.
It's the same fire and Nico.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Bro. Yeah, the whole game. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
If I'm being honest, Bro, I'm not It's just it's
just Patrick Dumontuum overreacting to the negativity in the press.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
That's that's not overreacting, Bro, They didn't see that.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Coming or having a very quick reaction.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean I saw it coming, Pauls. It's crazy, but.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Three and eight start, Bro, that nobody expected. I know
they're not healthy, I know that. But what it becomes
a snowball effect, right of just negativity, and then your
home crowd is yelling out fire Nico and.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Then Luca averaging thirty eight. Stevie Wonder saw that coming, Luca,
Guy and Luca averaging thirty eight. Yeah, that's what did it.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
And Luca on the other end averaging thirty eight. Eight
ain't three?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
And they win and they win with that though, you
mean not with that.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Luca got skinny because he's on a revenge tour, which
is a fact that that's that's a dominal fact of
him being traded.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
The second thing is Luca.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Is skinny because j Riddick his negative.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
That's a good point. You're wrong both, y'all. He's right,
he's proven Dallas wrong. Oh you think I'm not gonna
get his shape? He got in fucking tiptop shape and
now he's being a fucking demon. So maybe Nico helped
his career. Yes, maybe helped Luca as a player.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
And I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
We've never I've since Luca's rookie year. I've never seen
him this line. That's a good point. I've never seen
him in this line. They read to challenged them. Bro,
I was with Dallas. We talked about all he talked to.
All Nico talked about was getting in shape. I need
you in championship shape. He wasn't hearing it. And like

(07:49):
I said, I mean they got to the championship, but
they needed some new pieces. All this comes down to
one player is averaging thirty eight. The other player is
averaging the same clothes we're wearing.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
So majority hold on home.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
He's averaging the same clothes that we're we have all
the time. He he The niggas ain't playing, Bro, The
nigga's not playing, and Kyrie's not on the court.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's the history of that.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I'm not playing no one. But let's go ahead, be honest,
we we do. All this water could have shut.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
A ship.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
If Kyrie and Luca, if Kyrie and eighty were there.
We're not having this conversation, but they're not there. It's
all timing. This man Luca is spazzing the fuck out
and this new owner doesn't know how to handle this.
It's okay, he just got here, but he doesn't know
how to handle it. And he's like, I'm losing the

(08:46):
fan base and I'm losing everybody believing in what the
fuck I'm doing?

Speaker 3 (08:49):
So up? Who I got a fire? What are you
doing so here?

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Here?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know? Do you know? So I want to build
on ownership?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Is doing what you do?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Fire Nico? I know that, But what is he doing? Like?
What's the plan?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
The plan?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Son with a plan with let me.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Build on my point first and then we can dive
into planet. What's next for the maps? So Charlie Ray THEO,
you're I'm the owner. I'm Patrick. I say, Charlie, you
have the authorization to make this move because of these reasons.
We are gonna be healthy next year? Right, We're not healthy?
So you I give you the okay to go make

(09:33):
a decision and then you don't even let me see
the plane and then you fire me. That doesn't make
sense as a business owner, as someone that I'm a
business I.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Don't think that I got a response to that. I'm
sure ownership didn't go to Nico and said let's trade Luca.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
They did.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
He literally came out, said ownership. He literally came out
and said that was I shouldn't did that. That was
a mistake, No, meaning he should have never co signed.
Nico had to go to fucking ownership. Ownership don't know
my about basketball. I mean to make that decision that's
gonna be. They relied on Nicos expertise.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
They coach.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Of course, they said, of course they had to signing.
But he is right though, if you're gonna co sign it,
you got to rock. We never saw We saw Kyrie
on the court one time and towards a.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
C l y Charlie, Charlie, you can't do We can't
do that.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
You didn't even you saw a D and Kyrie play
together one game. But you gotta understand, ship is happening
in real time. So regardless of the injuries, regardless of
all that, the fans are still paying to come to
see the game. Yes, so they spending their hard earned
money to watch some bullshit. And the reason we all
know was on the block. And there's always a what

(10:50):
that's always gonna be no matter what, there's always gonna
be a escape. And if they and everything, and if
they win when Kyrie comes back, are you getting his
draw back?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Don't know? You you know?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
And guess what you know what if they if they
start winning when Kyrie comes back, guess who's gonna say.
They're gonna keep fanning. They're gonna keep matt Riccardy, They're
gonna keep And guess who put Golden State Warriors, Mark Jackson.
That's Mark Jackson's team, Steve Steve Curse team. It was
Mark Jackson's team.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
We can play the Clipper.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
We all know that Mark Jackson.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
We have We have a Worriors clip right now talking about.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Steve inherited, fucking Mark Jackson's team.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Did Mark Jackson start Draymond Green? That's all I'm saying
that Mark Jackson start.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
He had the team, that's all he had. He changed
the players where we get that, But he had the team.
That's what we're saying. Yes, but this is what all
you think you did was make a one switch, took
Dave Lee out and started Draymond Job exactly he did,
but the team didn't to him.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
You can't you can't sit here and say Mark Jackson
would have been successful with that team.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Mark Mark Jackson put the battery in their back. I
do think coaching changes changed things for people. I don't
I think if Steve out there, they don't win four.
I don't think they win four championships.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
This move is not about the planning.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
This move is more for the fans whoa First of all,
I am not a Luca hater.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I love Luca who said that.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
No Ford, the Allen's always here, no field that Homi.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
They played together for two years. I'm very cool with Luca.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
All I'm saying is he made the trade because he
was believing in Anthony Davis becoming that it was top
five player that we all know he's capable of being
when he's healthy, and when he's healthy, and guess what
he's done exactly what they hoped he wouldn't do.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
So be healthy.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
They're twelve percent into the season right twelve or thirteen season,
ten games, eighty two games. Can you imagine we pulled
the plug onto the ball hall when we had thirty
viewers and we don't have everybody in the chat right
now before we actually let the plan build. That's how
I feel about this. We didn't actually get to really
see it.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I'll feel you.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
But it's a business and when you lose, we get that.
But when you make a big decision like that, and
that's when the business side come in, that's when basketball
don't matter. And you let Luca go and your fan
base goes crazy. Your fan base started start dropping, and
then you start off the season with the hopes of, Okay,

(13:16):
Kyrie not gonna be back, but I think we got
a good enough team to win some games with a
d these other guys.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
AD goes down. What happened? What the co said? Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Wow, didn't you fire? Bro?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
What happened? You fucked me up? Bro? I was drinking
my oasis And.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
So you want to answer that, didn't you that I
put on my hoodie show? You want to answer that
I need decision for the show.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's what it came out in the middle. Okay, that's.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
That's a that's there.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Didn't you fire?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh boy? That I made the best decision for the show.
And I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Hey, this was but on another he put the hoodie on.
Why couldn't you wait and see the plan work out?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
You want to talk about that on it talk about
it was never part of my plan.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
That was never you couldn't wait and see. That was
never part of my plus your plan.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
But it is the collective no, no.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
No, that was that was forced upon us by one person.
The fact that Red got a fucking matching, fucking whatever,
they kind of fire that.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
That was one person on this coach forced upon us.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
You could have seen the plan work out, the fact
that this nigga is really about to do that. We're
gonna move on because I'm gonna spas the funk out
on this man on air.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
We're gonna we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Keep talking about Nico because the fact you gotta stop
doing that ship he he just tried to wild out
on or listen Nico. This is the business. We're gonna
change the Nico. It is clearly fired because of business.
They were losing the fan base. Start what are they
three two, three and eight? They're three and eight. That's

(15:17):
all this was bro at the end of the day,
the three and eight. They can't when you can't see
the future, and when when you can't see positivity. There's
nothing positive from the season going on right now except
for last night, and then they lost a heartbreaker the
way they lost last night, They're like.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Oh fuck now to echo what you were saying, it's
a carryover from last year.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, you do the trade.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
He gets hurt right away, ship goes south. They don't
make the play. They play the playing right they got
they got bumped off. No, they beat the ship out
of sack, and then they got led by Memphis.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh, spanked by somebody else.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
They got spanked by Memphis.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Memphis, right, So then theydn't make the playoffs. So now
you start the season in your three and eight to
carry over.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Worst team in the wis right.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
They shooting the ball terrible, They're not playing very well.
They lose yesterday's game, Dirt the whiskey came out dirty.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
The goat, Dallas Goat is like, you know, the fans
saw that this ship is wild. You know the fans
dirt speak about that.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Could not take the pressure of all the Dallas.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
They couldn't take it. It was yesterday. Yesterday was the
tipping point. Yesterday was it. I'm gonna be honest, if
I thought I thought it was gonna happen, if they
lost to Mitt Washington again in Washington, I thought it
was gonna be there, Houston.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
They beat them.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
They raised prices as well. Like you know, Cube always
made it super affordable for everybody. Cube always made sure
it was a section for like families to pull up,
and that's always been a big point for him, Houston.
That's a great point.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
They're eight and three.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
We don't have this discussion. No easily, we're not talking
about this. Still have his job.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
But I don't think we can judge Nico until we
see the team together. They keep the team together.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
But this is a winning, win and lose. This is
a winner or lose business.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Though.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
If you win, we're not having discussions about certain things.
If you lose, you on the training blocks or coaches.
He's listen, let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Before the season, what is everybody in their mama saying
about Dallas their contenders? Stephen, They said it. Everybody said it.
Everyone was saying they were contenders. But now they're looking.
But but Nico was was Nico on the block then,
because they were contenders, you put together a contender team.

(17:43):
The point the problem is to me and we gotta
be we gotta be blatantly, We gotta be blunt and
honest with this ship. They have played ass like they
bro Ray. There are six guys that play major minutes.
They're shooting under thirty. Everyone's shooting under thirty.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
They don't have a facilitator. Guys, we keep talking. We
I said this from the beginning. I like Cooper Flag.
He's a great player. You're gonna play a lot of
a lot of basketball in this league. Cooper Flag is
not a point guard.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Got a stat for.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
You, y, can we put a stat hold on hold
on a bunch of stats?

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Oh, it's just then it might be an image of
Mavericks stats. Please six Rob, it's nasty.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
The tenth in the NBA turnovers, they averaged the least
amount of points. Damn they're they're twenty ninth and that
me and three point shooting. They're twenty seventh in assist
and the twenty fifth and field goal percentage in the league.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I got another games like that three point percentages? You ready?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Nazi Marshall twenty five, the Williams Kid eighteen percent, A
d twenty seven percent, Cooper twenty seven percent.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
PJ.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Washington twenty seven point five, Klay Thompson twenty six point four,
D Low twenty seven point five.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
You're not expect. Think you're not expecting d Low, You're
not expected. You're expecting Clay d Low and pj and
to be high thirties. They give if you shoot high
third if they no, no, no, you're expecting them to
be high thirty.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yes, of course. If they're shooting high thirties, they're eight
and three.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
No question, no question, this is this is but you
know why this is shooting because they are taking tough
ass shots. If you if you, if you watch them play, bro,
there's nothing easy about them. Their shots they're all missing
open shop. But you know why because because they're not
getting no they not getting no rhythm if you, if

(19:39):
you pay attention to it, bro, Like like Dirk said,
I'm looking at these guys and they just dribble a
hand off side the side.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Of the east West. There's no rhythm.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
You know why because there's no damn playmaker, there's no
real point guard. I love d Low, but d Low
is a bona five score, Let's be honest. He's a
score on the Williams Kid. He's a six foot one score.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
He's a score.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
So Kyrie is your playmaker on Anthony Davis draws double team.
So he can get you easy shots. You're on two.
Those two guys are out the game. You're trying to
put a young guy that's really an eighteen year old.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
He is eighteen. He's eighteen years old.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
You're putting a pressure on him to try to run
your offense because he's your best playmaker and he's not
ready yet. And I understand what Jay Kidd is doing
because if you look at this team, that's his best playmaker's.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Best play I watched him play three times they had
open shots. They have been missing open shots. There's no
I agree with.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
That, but no Clay is missing open three.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Swing swing right, And I'm with you on that. There's
no rhythm. If you look at them, there's no rhythm
to their office. Sure, there's no rhythm. There's no rhythm
to them, forget have no identity, but get the offense.
There's no rhythm to them on that court. So when
you ever seen Klay Thompson shoot a three and it
goes behind his head ever in his career?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I mean, you guys, this, how does this? And listen,
I know we're all fans of J Kid. How much
of this is to put on J Kid? He's a
coach you got, listen, I mean you you always get.
You always gott to put it on the coach because
you have to. You have to figure it out. But
for me, for j Kid defense, what the fuck he's
without his two fucking top players.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
What you want to do? I agree with that he's
though it took care of Nico, he continues to go
this way. You just signed him to an extension.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
You can't fire him until you see what that looks
like when those guys are help can you can fire you.
You can just like the They're not gonna do it
but Ray.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
But just like you said, it's a win or lost league,
So regardles.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
If it's two players are missing, win lost league.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
And you know what Challenged Persons said this on the show.
I do believe with eighty they have enough talent, way
more talented Pelicans. There are one game above the Pelicans.
They have more talent than the Portland Trailblazers.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
They don't got the guard players.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
And I keep going back to that, you ain't got
the fucking guard. You don't have a playmaker bro, a
real solid point guard. They can run your offense and
get guys easy shots. The ship looks like this ro
I'm gonna give you my head, but you fucking go
suit up. Oh ship, they might need you.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I can't run it for long. I want to give
you five minutes and I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Done with the Nico because I saw a lot of
Dallas is ready to heal now that Nico's gone, with
that Nico thing lingering. Does that affect players? With all
the fire Nico chants and all this all this stuff.
It's just a crowd, That's what I'm saying. Can that
affect your shooting and the vibes?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
No, it's more.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
I think it's more just I think I think yeah,
I say the shooting part, I say, it's like fuck
because to put it out there, we are here to critique.
This is what we do. But at the same time,
they're not out there trying to play bad. You know,
they're not trying to play They are just they can't
throw it in the ocean right now. Like yesterday may

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have been the best they've looked.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Look like Coop look good. Yeah, it's the best they've looked.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
But at the same time, they expected Cool to be
a point guard.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Is I keep saying that? But we thought we was rolling,
he was rolling. I say he's a playmaker. But I
know I say, I say it's gonna be tough.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, I feel me.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
I was cool with it, but I said it's gonna
be tough putting that type of on him early on.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I know for a fact all you guys said you
ain't rolling. Ray did say that one one for one
game he said it looked good. Maybe JK knows what
he's doing. That's already said. He said one game, it
looked really good. So I know that for a fact.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
It's tough.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
But to answer your question, Honk, it does effect. Go
the whole team, get Russ.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
We're gonna talk about the Kings. By the way, Fiel
sent me some crazy ship.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Go get Russ.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Answer, No, this is a this is a real CONVERSI
to find people, Bro. I'm serious. I'm to be honest
with you. Sacramento was winning, they won games when Russ
was starting. They took Russ out. They' getting a hands kicked.
Now now we got the clip. Let me bro, let's
stay with them right quick. I gotta ask you this question.
I was thinking about this on the way over here.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
If you're the MAVs, they don't have their first round,
they don't have their first round pick for the next
five years. I think they have I don't think it's
for the next five years.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Double, I got you though, because why I don't think that.
I don't think they control them.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
I think they don't control That means you don't got them.
You don't got them, so.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
You don't have your picks for the next five years.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (24:33):
You're you're this?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Why?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Let me disappointed? You're disappointed on how this is going? Correct? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:39):
I firmly believe they don't believe in a D. No more,
they don't believe in what in a D.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I think they're cool with ad you got you guys ready,
I think they're cool with it. Let me get you off.
Let me I think they're cool.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
You gotta say I forgot, I forgot Go ahead, just
say what you guys say?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
They got twenty six for the got dis years picked,
I'm taking Then in twenty they don't have twenty seven,
twenty eight there, okay, he has a right to swap
with them, fucking okay. See, and then twenty nine they
get the Lakers pick, and twenty and twenty nine their
own pick goes to Houston, and then thirty goes to

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San Antonio.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
So so this is if you're if you're looking at
it this way right, Damn, But I would say this,
I think you let Ad go.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Let Ad go, get your picks back. What are you
saying them I'm not getting I don't give a fuck.
You're gonna get something. Somebody needs an Anthony Davis. Anthony
Davids would changing team. It's true, I don't give a fuck. Like,
who needs a big uh Boston? He go to Boston.

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Oh lord, I don't think you want Boston's pitch. They're
gonna be high twenties. So you too, maybe, I mean,
I mean you could, Like I said, there's a lot
to go into it. I'm just saying, you get something
for a D.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
I am.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
I will find it very hard for me to say
Kyrie will stay here. You just traded Luca for a D,
and then you're gonna trade a D. They're in that
point now you just you just fire GM.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
So the next day you so, Michael Philly gonna go
get bron What? What how are you saving?

Speaker 4 (26:35):
You're really not. It's early enough where you can make
a difference, so you can, you can. You're it's early
enough where you can be like, all right, bad fuck it.
This is what we're gonna do. We're gonna we already
fucked up by getting rid of Luca. You pay attention
to what's going on now, what's going on in college.
We got a chance to get somebody good. Right, let's

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fuck around. Time to tank, let's get let's get what
we can't. They got a bunch of assets.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
The teams. There's a team that.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Like they do, that team that like Naji Marshall. That's
a team that takes fucking Max Christy. Go get Russ Moran,
Go get Russell Ja Moran and keep the team. What
you say, yeah, keep this team around.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
You're trading you cool with let ad go because I'm
cool with Gafford and Lively. Trading a cool those guys.
And you got some of these who a.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
D Memphis for Johns.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
What you're doing, let's disgusting if they would do it,
But they ad gonna Jared Jackson Jr.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
And Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
That's an elite defensive league.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
That's disgusting. Or what guard they got?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Fucking This guy's a Spencer hater, That Spencer.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Nigga Cam Spencer?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Is it Cam Hey by the way we have three
fifteen shot up all three fifteen? Then what's the record?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Nineteen? The Red Cups come out? So you will you
want you want Red Cups come out?

Speaker 6 (28:00):
You want to John Rush, you need a playmaker, bro
I'm watching him play and it's hard to look at
you saying keep the team.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
You have to If you keep the team, you gotta
keep a D. I have to give her the a D.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
What is going on with I don't know what's wrong
with what's calf?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Calf?

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Something like a strain, Yes, calf strain. He has to
be to be careful with that, because you know saying
turn to Achilles to be careful with that that Calf
wants to being tight.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, I'm making a call on Boston. I don't give
a Pritchard.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Talent.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Lukachar no brou I mean you ain't looking for Pncher.
That's a brasy.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
You're doing everything to get your picture said. I'm just
saying you need a play maker.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Simon's and.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Get the mother fucking word cup.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
If you if you sit here and you get if
you get something, if you trade a D, that means
you're in you're in lottery taking.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
You're trying to go to the lottery.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
This's Mice said, please, sir, Yeah, you want this ship
fucking hot a d to Detroit. Oh, Phil, you just
be saying ship ring the chat, but you look like
you with it?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Huh you with it? Listen, lit'ten, Just listen what I'm.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Trying to say until I see the team.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I'm not saying move on. I'm asking y'all what you
would do if you are You're not doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
So how are you gonna go win? Now? The team
is not good? You need How are you going to
win now?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
You need a point? Don't get russ. Russ ain't bringing
you a championship. How are you going to win a
championship in the next two years.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
You can't worry about no championship right now. You gotta
worry about winning team.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
No, no, no, no, not that question now Without Kyrie,
and if you bring Rush whoever the fuck you bring,
are they gonna make all of a sudden be a
champions Yep, that's what.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
If you're gonna do that, then you go do that.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
That would he only right on? Drink? Yeah right cool,
thank you, bro?

Speaker 4 (30:12):
That would help. Please tell me put some ice on it. No,
there is no ice, but appreciate you good.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah. Shout out to everybody the chat. Shout out to
always make sure.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
You guys subscribe as well.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
We hear every single Monday that Thursday twelve pm easter
into two pm.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I said it, Go get Bron.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Fucking if they want to go win, if they want
an actual chance, go get I'm telling you, Bron, not the.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Fucking Nico's plan.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
No more.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Nico wanted to win now, making that a d mover
is winning. Now you see what you just said. That's
my exact point. His plan was to win right now.
If that's not the plan no more? Why is Anthony
Davis on your team?

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Is there anymore?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Is it bad? If you tank this year Kyrie sits out,
you get you get either Caleb Wilson, AJ devansa, Darren
Peterson whoever you pick, and then you roll out that
team and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
That's to be paid. Kyrie willing to do that?

Speaker 4 (31:13):
I think Kyrie is, Yeah, why if you have the
same He's trying to win a chi is not Kyrie
wants to win. He wants to He's not winning a
chimp with fucking him and Cooper Flag and A j.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Dbansathy Davis were at We're at three thirty day one.
Shout out to you, Nick, we see you. You're brand
Nick tri States, Brand new Ford Allen, we see you.
Tensons always here, Jill Raffles over here, sonetto bucka Pantel.

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You'll be talking crazy, but you're always here. Stars, always here.
What's up? Okay, Kurt? Then we see you Kurts in
the chat, Jordan Young, although you're always talking ship to us.
We appreciate you for tuning in, Buddy in the to
the Baha family.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yes, sir, this okay, I see you.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Star.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
We don't have something for them to get to the playback.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I'm gonna send the link after after I say this,
can't you just trade Darren Peterson for a player?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Damn trade Darren Peterson in college?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
No, I'm talking about when you get the pick next
year and retool send Clay Darren Peterson, Lively and Marshall
for a big time player in the in the off season.
You mean like trade to pick. Yeah, I mean trade
to pick.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I told you what. Dall is full.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
The season started, well, they should have done before. Don't
say the rush they should.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Have win and got I apologized by we ran on
castle egos, I forgot to get it. That's my that's
on me. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
So what was that was?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
That was that battle that we have left? My apologies though,
my apologies.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I told you how to go when it goti. Now
Jana is been winning a little bit.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Johanna's kind of sit and put Johnsy's one more playmaker,
like we said, yes, can't at this point.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
You let the ship rock play it out. They're not
trying to win right now. I don't think that plan
win out. The windows were gods to what You still
need a point guard. You still need a point guard.
You need a point exactly, so go get one. So
why not just fucking tank because whatever point guard you're
gonna bring, ray is who?

Speaker 6 (33:16):
Who are your options? What you mean you're bringing? It's
a lot of point guards out there that people are
not happy with. Who's available right now? I think Russ
is available. I think John is available.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
That's not your.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Trey Young is available. I like the John and I
like Trey Young for some reason. I like both of those.
You know, I'm gonna shut that down real quick. That
Josh shooting from three you fit right in. You fit
right in.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
So you guys are a big fat.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Bunch of team that can't fucking shoot.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
So let me tell you, guys name point.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Hold on, man, niggas gotta you gotta bring a D's
value up right now.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
His value right now a great point.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I'm telling you this right now.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
If I'm a g if I'm Boston and I see
Anthony Davis and I see the way this East is looking,
I'm making that.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
All So can I ask you guys this, this is
the name I always throw over who I think is
a great point.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
J T might come back, Jaylen Brown, Jason Tatum, Anthony Davis.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
We are we are we fucking around right now. We're serious.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
But you are you gonna get?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
You say, and you're saying his market is low when
you don't want his market to be high.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
They might not have to give up much. Who don't
have to give up much? Boston might not have to
give up much. You gotta give up something because of
the money.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
The money you have to give Anthroony and a couple
of players, that's.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
What you have to Anthony Simmons.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Wrap them. I'll wrap them up a bubble wrap. Make
sure they get that healthy.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Hey, by the way, let's also not go back.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
So you traded Luca, do stop for assignments? Listen, they
traded to win. Now it didn't work.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
It's cool, right, just like okay, se who okay, see
trade for George?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's respectful, Bro. Don't don't say that, bro. Dumb as hell. Bro,
that's mean. Oh it's his opinion. Bro.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Oh, I ain't worry about these niggas. Hey, what did
did they trade?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Paul Paul?

Speaker 4 (35:06):
George went to Okay, see right, they had Russ Paul
and uh, mellow right, it didn't work and.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
They moved What happened, They moved on real quick.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
They moved on, but they got they went to get saved.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
They got a young talent, that's what. And they the
ship at that team and now what we're.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Doing, but you're calling them automatic temps and they won
that ship last year.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
But this is a I'm a firm believer of this
freshman class. Did they got in?

Speaker 4 (35:35):
If there Peterson a J Debansy team team up with
Cooper Flag, that's a fucking good young core right there.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
The only thing I said you was you're talking about
Mike Finley like he's Sam Presty, no disrecting Mike Finley.
Sam Presty has always been very proactive and made very
good decisions.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
But you gotta be you gotta be lucky though, this
is a This is a luck how many times? When
was the last time? Chat y'all?

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Let me know, when's the last time we had a
fucking draft class like this?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
We haven't. But but but why do you need to tank?
If you have a pick? They have their own pick
this year theo, So why do you need to tank?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Get enough?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I mean just had to. Brooklyn had five first their
own pick, so if they tank, there'll be a top
five pick.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Brooklyn had the top first round picks this year. Why
not do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I don't disagree with you, but at five, but who's
going to give you a good pick this year? When
the draft is loaded? You know that teams are not
giving up draft picks is.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Loaded because the kid of Virginia Tech, I'm still rolling.
And did you see that Colorado kid?

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I did, Yeah, Roland, the one that's having for yeah,
the one that's forty two.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
So they have your pick, they have their own pick. Yes,
In twenty twenty two, Dallas has their own forty two.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Years olds behind y'all know how I do want to
go you acquisitions.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
You guys know I love I love Joe. Is there
someone like Tys Jones that doesn't have to be ties
that's available that is cool being a starter, can handle
that role and they can play the play behind Kai.
There's nobody you can get, you, Marshall.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
There's nobody in in the league that you can get
right now that can make this team a championship contender
team other than Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
But I don't think you need to make them a
contender right now.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
They're in bro they have said it. It's literally came
out their mouth. They are in win now mode.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
He's about to say, hey, yo, they have.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Spoken about it.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
There are win now mode and went out the door
with Meko. Okay, That's why I asked the question. So
at this point, do what you what do you have
Anthony Davis for if you are if that's out the window,
it happened, didn't hear you know?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
He's right, But.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Don't you just need a weather of the storm until
Kay gets back.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
You can get it. You can get it. You're gonna
get a great pick for Kai.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I'm not if you're tanking, if you are taking for
the few Kyrie has how long is Kyrie playing?

Speaker 3 (38:08):
He signed what two year deal?

Speaker 7 (38:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I think he signed. I think he's locked up till
twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
So you're sticking with Kai, right, it's hard to flip
a D. Burn is right, it's hard to flip a D.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Right now, Bro, Paul, who's the pause woman.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Flipping ky Jalen Green Mobley, Jalen Johnson, kaminga Scottie. Think
about if the Warriors had fucking Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
But who you're getting a return Commendo Moody. But the
Warriors picks up won't be because we ain't gonna talk about pods.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
You taking, man, Kyrie has.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
A team of player option til twenty eight, so you
got two more years. Just so just so we're clear,
you know, show to everybody in the chat.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Man, Yeah, we had four hundred. I'm taking two shots
fifty three.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I don't even take more.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Take that was really aggressive, man, I'm all on Jesus, Bro,
they ship out of Nico, is it ready?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I mean it was sufficient? I mean yeah, I'm sure
it's official. Now official because you get out of Dallas
it ain't hit. It ain't hit the phones. It didn't
hit the phones yet, Like they didn't hit the phones yet. No,
it's just imagine some bullshit.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh no, it's out.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
It's out.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
It's an open letter from Mavericks owner. I'm gonna read it.
So there's an open letter from this I'm gonna read it.
On May thirty, twenty twenty four, the Mavericks won the
Western Conference Championship. We came up short in the NBA Finals,
but we all agreed. Oh you want me reading No.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
No, no, I'm talking about the owner now, you're good.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Oh, but we all agreed our future was bright. As
fans of this franchise, you have you have every right
to demand a commitment to success from us. No one
associated with the Mavericks organization is happy with the start
of what we all believe would be a promising season.
You have high expectations for the ma and I share
them with you. When the results don't meet expectations, it's

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my responsibility to act. I've made the decision to part
ways with general manager Nico Harrison through the majority of
twenty five to twenty six season remains to be played,
and I know our players are wow deeply committed to
winning culture. This decision was critical to moving our franchise
forward in a positive direction. I understand the profound impact

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these difficult last several months have had. Please know that
I'm fully committed to the success of the Mavericks. Then
he just thanks to you.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Someone says winning basketball in Dallas is his goal. So
there you go.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
I fire because we're losing. Nothing's escape. That doesn't change
anything by firing.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, I'm not with it, but cheers to everybody in
our chat though to the bottom. Bro, three seventy.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Three, that's tough. You got to take two shots.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Go.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
It's getting on the alcohol is it's getting on the couch.
I mean, I'm fucked up. I'm funked up.

Speaker 6 (41:14):
Yeah, because I had a plan in place and I
make probably one of the biggest trades ever seen in basketball.
Think about and you know he he he dealt with
a lot of ship, Bro, His family dealt with a
lot of ship.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Think about the ship that he got.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
So, like, it's just tough. You're gonna be always known
as that guy. No matter what you go do from
here on basketball, You're gonna be always known for that.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
It's just the worst trade ever, no history basketball basketball.
It's not the worst, but it's upready talked about it.
It's up there. And you know what's crazy?

Speaker 4 (41:50):
A d he's fucking on Hall of Famer first first fame,
for sure, he is for sure first possibly one of
the worst trades ever.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Hong fire and and NBN double n C double A champion.
J Jackson.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
He didn't fire two guys.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I didn't fire J Jacks By the way, let's got
damn bro really put me on the blast.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
That's cool, But who is that? How did you know that?

Speaker 1 (42:29):
The trade worst ever?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Know?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
The worst trade? Everyone was evinced card the new New
Jersey nets Alonso the morning was coming off of surgery.
He didn't even play for the Raptors. He has to
be bought up. And no disrespect to them. We got
Aaron Williams. Those are my peoples now, no disrespect. That
was the worst trade in history. I'm sorry y'all that
that by far as the worst trading history.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Whose fault is it?

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Nico made a decision to get rid of Luca. He
he believed in the change of defensive identity.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
So I get I get what Nico was doing, though
I understood it.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
You live and die with your decisions.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
You have to live and die by it. But it
just turned out.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
You gotta have luck when you make a decision like that,
you gotta have luck behind you.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
A lot of things have to fall into place. Look good,
they got the number one pick. That was a bright spot.
So everybody was excited, right, everybody was like, these guys
are contenders.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
And then you see it.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
You're like, wait a minute, this ship don't look good.
And it don't look good because it's gonna point right
back Kyrie out there. There's a different, different thing now.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Would you think he had that in the in the
plan that Kyrie is gonna get hurt? He probably never
anticipated that ship.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Would you? Guys say? It's been good for basketball though?
The NBA Lucas in l A. Everybody saw, we saw,
we saw.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
We saw.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
I think Ray you was there that game against Houston
when Kyrie was playing with A D. Gafford. They were all, heal,
that shit looked good. That ship look amazing. What the
fuck are people gonna do with this?

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (44:02):
They couldn't do ship, Like, what do you do with it?
And that's where Hanks's point is very valid. If you
ain't seen it one time, like if you as a
as an organization, y'all made a decision to trade Luca.
You didn't even see the full team on the court
together but one time, one time, and when you saw it,

(44:27):
and when you saw it, it was crazy when you
saw it. But the fact that we only saw one
time and people were saying they were champions, they had
a chance to contend for a championship, but then people forgot.
They got blitzed by Memphis at the end of the
year last year and all they did was at Cooper.

(44:49):
It's tough, Bro, It's tough. It's a tough situation. Somebody
got a good point.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
The Warriors in Boston are good suitors, but you're not
going to get anything good from them.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I don't think nothing nothing way.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I just want to gave a shout out to Ray.
He said he's from Bowman High, Alumno.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
High, my man. Tell him. I said it was cracking.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yes, sir, y'all go down the lucal Nico topic.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Eighty five gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Five shot tomorrow, bro, because that ship was asked.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
No, we're taking that ship now it happens, you gotta
take the ass shot we're.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Taking two shots. Hey, yo, you're here. What he just said?

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I heard him all, but by the way I heard
him about I'm sure we'll continue talking about this. It's
going to continue on in the season. But yo, who's
been elite this year? Last night was elite? Bump leap
bum let'st the poster. Let's start, I mean, listen, I mean,
we talke about Dallas, but let's start with the Yarnest poster.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
We're just gonna talk about Dallas. Then Washington get dumpo.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Hey, people got fired right there.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
She was weak.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
It was over two people.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
It was okay, he punched on.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Of course we have that col Now were gonna play
cam with more this ship. This this was vicious.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Hey, hey, goodness gracious, that's one of the that's one
of the best posters I've seen. Hey with the two
hands ships.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
First of all, he went in a man child Jalen,
the ram body, the body, two hand flesh.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
That's tough.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Change change direction there, it was tough.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
That's super tough.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
And then we got we go. Now we're gonna talk
about this team. The magic. We kind of had the
magic a little disappointing, but that's been being hit this
big shot. This is a tough shot to make.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
No talk about dombs.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
We're gonna talk about dun shot after So listen, let's
let's put the Mavicks graphic after this.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
The mass graphic.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I'm sorry, the Magic.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
He's a little under them.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
The Magic graphic.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
God, damn, I'm a little lit. I'm not gonna lie
already off we have four hundreds. I'm a little concerned.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I'm a little concerned too.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
So yo, please get us the four hundred.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
So y'all can see how lit magic.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
I mean, they won last night. They want to get
to good team. Everybody here thinks they're a good team,
the Trailblazers. Does that sell you? Keep that graphic up? Please.
They're not great at turnovers. That the fifth most turnovers
in the league. They don't shoot the three ball that well,
but they do get to the line a lot. And
they don't move the ball well. I won't say they
don't move the ball well, but they're very low in assists.

(47:39):
But they're pretty good at rebounding. So that's kind of
the tail of the tape. What do you guys think
about the Magic? I know rays watch a lot of games.
I've only watched maybe one or two Magic games.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
I mean, no bullshit. Do you think I thought the
Magic was a better team with Desmond Pain.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
You can take the graphic down now.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
By the way, I thought by Adam Bain would just
make him a lot better.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Burton, and just hit it on top of the head man.
That as good as your defensively, the office is awful.
They got they gotta pick who they want to trade
between Franz and Uh because they're so similar.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
They're so similar, bro, and it's like you got and
j B and not Huh, j T and j B
are not. I think it's easier for guards. So at
that point you got are you good?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Look at Henderson put in the chat.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Let's get to the real time. Oh my god, this
is what I don't see it. Don't just keep going yeah, yeah,
the people want it.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
We gotta get the people what they wanted, what they want. Explain,
Get me two more drinks.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Let me chill, right, Thank you, thank you, thank you, Burton,
I said it, I trade France, Why I go go
elite guards?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Leaked? Who's an elite point guse that's available? You have
to be same ship.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Get young Frances cold bro coold I go get Trad Young.
I like Young, You like Trey Younger, Franz, I like
jo you. I'm done with the Josh. He's bro. You
got a team that already you gotta start putting John

(49:26):
teams that can't shoot him and John shoot?

Speaker 1 (49:30):
They got that man?

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Who else can shoot for the magic Raymond and John?
Man he he you know what that?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Hey, catch hey by the way before before we get
back into it. Many the n B A. I just
want you to get out of the difference.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
Man not he's not happy, but coach, I ain't talking
about Memphis, the city.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
He's not happy with this coach. I'm with you, joh
you know how we may the screener, you know the
sub patterns and funk out of his sub patterns. John
can play on any team.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
A lot of people are not happy with him, though.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
That coach he's about to get out there.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I mean a lot I should be.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Can I read a lot of comments coach he got already,
bring bring me over.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I mean they're starting, they'll start back winning.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
To the by on the bench we're talking about these
niggas is just crumpled red Jock arguing John, get your
ass back niggas.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Ain't gonna be arguing. They're gonna be lead flying.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
You out of pocket.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
I got something for my god, Josh.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Orlando works way better though.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
So so you really think they just need a playmaker?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Macho? You think job missing on purpose?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
No? No, but John's never shot this POI, bro, he
should like eight like ten years.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I mean, he don't want to be there. It's clear
that that makes the difference. So that affects your play,
that makes it.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I don't think he doesn't. We don't want to be somewhere.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
You're gonna play statement he does. It's not that he
don't want to be in Memphis. You don't want to
pay for that coach. He wants to be in Memphis.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah, that's fair. I think he does want to be
a Memphis.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
He loves Memphis, bro, from what I've been told. No,
he does the chat saying you out of pocket. By
the way, Charlie, that's what I apologize said.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Got good understanding.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
No, you raise your road dog.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
We get it all right, man.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Let's get to the fucking there's theatrics in Miami. That
ship was crazy w NBA. Now we're not, we're skipping it.
Let's play Donovan Mitchell. Really, we're skipping it. We're playing
Donovan Mitchell clip. Please, The lunatics said, no, he's about
to go crazy on us if we do. Let's play
the Donald Mitchell clip. Please. If we don't have it,

(52:11):
I apologize, but we should. There's a little hiccup at
the beginning of the show.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
We don't have it, he said, we don't have the clip.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
That's I guess that's on me. That's my fault.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
You ownership. We need to talk to ownership because somebody
are we not.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Having these things? Straight?

Speaker 5 (52:34):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
No, no, what you said about straight?

Speaker 3 (52:36):
And what did you say?

Speaker 5 (52:39):
So?

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Fire to clip? Guy?

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Clip? What?

Speaker 3 (52:44):
I do A lot of it? But get it is
home fucking Hong is ownership too? Can I have a
Can I have a real question?

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Though?

Speaker 4 (52:52):
I got a question for you? What is Gianni's rank
from y'all top five? Give me a number like legit number? Yeah,
legit number?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Where is he? Janni's in the league? In the league
three three or four? Four? Four? Mhm's he's four for you?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Me three?

Speaker 3 (53:13):
He might be three for me? I got jo Sha
then Wimby, Jannis Luca Wimby.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Oh, I apologize, you're right, Jannis Lucay he's five.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
We have the clip.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
He's five is five for me.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Luca is three, so we do have the clip. It's
it's his fault.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Look at this, Lucas three's four.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Look, let's talk.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
About Okay, we're gonna get back to it. We're gonna
get back to my apologies.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
So this is my thing. Jannis is.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Dominating every single night, every night, and I think he's
not gonna win a championship with this team. So what
what does he do.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
After this?

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Like, if he doesn't win this year, what does he do?

Speaker 1 (54:13):
You want him out of Milwaukee?

Speaker 3 (54:14):
We know that that's what you want him in the
New York.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
No, I don't care where he goes. But I'm gonna
be honest. I just don't think he He's not gonna
win there. They're not winning a championship on this Milwaukee team.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
No, I don't what.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
The grass isn't always greener. So that's my opinion.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
But that's what I'm saying. So are you are you
sticking in that? Because he's already threatened to go this year,
and it was serious, it was real that he was
leaving this year.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
If he don't win it. This year. Does he stick
it out?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I think he has a Dirk ass career.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
You think he stays there.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
He gets that one. You know how Dirk took down
that Miami he big three. Johannis took down the injured
Brooklyn Big three. I think he kind of. I think
he stays in Milwaukee. They tried to competitive teams around him,
and he never wins again. That's gonna be my that's
my take.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Oh, they say Janni's over Shay.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
We ain't. We ain't doing that, can we?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
My bad?

Speaker 4 (55:09):
I just texted you John's number three. I just text
you a video. Watch that video, Bro, Janni's over Shae.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
I know, I got yo kids, Shade two. I got
Janni's three. Yeah, Luca four.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Wow. There's a lot of people saying Yannis right now.
They take Giannis over Shae. I don't know about that. Wow,
Jannie is number one. Wow, there's a lot of Yannis guys.
I understand, how would y'all? Definitely it's a conversation.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Because me and you both watched the Milwaukee game against
Houston and they couldn't create a shot, and that's never
a problem with Shade is your number one. There's a
lot of handoffs. There's a lot of Ryan Rowlands trying
to make something happen. Is something the ball like that's different.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Actually look at two different positions.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
But if you need to close up a game or
you really like, I don't know, man, that's just my opinion.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
It's like saying, I'm gonna take Kobe over Shack, and
it's like they played too different. I'm taking kobecause you
need Shack. Shock is the most dominant player we've ever seen, for.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Sure, But but who, but who's in your.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Minute a minute? Wait a minute, wait a minute. You're
talking about in that prime Kobe, you're taking Ship. You're
taking Kobe over Ship.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Kobe is number three on my list. Shock is like
six or seven. So I'm taking Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
You're taking Kobe over Shot.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
I'm taking Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
You're taking Kobe over No. I don't know. I don't
know if I could do.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
That Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant was not Kobe Bryant during
his three p like Kobe and his prime, this prime
eighty one averaging like fifty one months or do you
know that was not? Oh? I know Shock? How dominant
Shack was nobody.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Can guard Shack Nook about no one.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Y'all got a point.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
I'm talking about nobody ever, there's not a person.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Let me stop, Let me tracked my statement, Let me
track my state.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Sho shot play with right now. He would have got
THEMN the goddamn I'm gonna shut the up. When you're
a big, When you're a big, when you're a big,
you do need a closer.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I remember how dominant Shock was. I'm gonna shut the
fuck up. I apologize.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
When you're big, you do need a closer. I agree
with that. But they say, you bro, you some bullshit.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
I'm on that bullshit. I'm not bullshit alcohol bro.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
That's yo.

Speaker 6 (57:29):
What Ten just said Donovan Mitchell with I love that,
I like, I love that.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Jannis never sup like that?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
What not?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Working in Cleveland?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
What not?

Speaker 4 (57:42):
For sure have the same supporting cast as Johannis. Who's
support who supporting cast is better by far?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Would you say that before they won?

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Though? Because he had Brook Lopez listen when they support
listen when they drew holiday in Middleton Elite.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
I had.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Years, but That's what I'm talking about. When Shan and
Jannis one. I don't know if I think it's a conversation,
that's all. No, he'll know he had we're talking about
right now, right now difficult. I'm gonna just put this
out there. Jannie is playing some very impressive basketball. Man
is killing like he is. He is truly dominating. He's
up there for m v P. Yes, nobody's saying like
if if we're talking m v P right now, it's Joannis.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
And Luca, stop for me? Stop stop what yo? Ki? Oh?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:33):
He is avag trip not loud it is and sixteen
fifteen the triple is not louder. Now, I agree, he's
thirty thirty. What was his last stance.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
For his last thirty two fourteen and fourteen on ten
of fourteen shooting?

Speaker 3 (58:52):
You know what it is?

Speaker 4 (58:52):
People get tired of that ship even more mean more
saying Jokic is the best player in the world MVP.
He is the best player.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Are you ready for his averages twenty five thirteen twelve
on sixty five.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Percent twenty five only on sixty five percent shooting. He
don't have to score a lot right now.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Hey, By the way, y'all love the fucking show makes
you subscribe we're here every Monday, the fucking Thursday. Keep
bringing you this great content.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Yeah, twenty five is averaging thirty three, eleven and six.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
God damn, how much is n is playing? He's leading
the league in scoring.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
How many shots have been taken?

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Though? Over MAXI, he's leading the league in scoring. I
thought Luca was leading.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
I don't think Lucas this is he's leading the league.
Lucas should be though. How much is he averaging? Thirty three?

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Luca averaging thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Lucas having thirty seven. He's not eligible amount of games, Yeah,
he's not eligible, but.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Once he's played every game. He's played every game seven one.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
I think you got to play. Percentage of points played
every game since one except.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
One, the only game he didn't play. They watched My Warriors, Bro, Jannis.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Is cooking, Bro, Like, what is Shaye averaging? Oh? My god?
Giannis is shooting from three right now? Bro, it's eight
for sixteen. It's good, yo, thirty three, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
But he's on he's only side sixteen or something like that.
How many he shot? You field, don't don't throw that said,
he's shooting fifty percent from three.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Listens eight for sixteen or maybe nine for eighteen. Hey, listener,
what is he? Oh? He is a for sixteen. I
told you I know some sid that's a great percentage. Great,
I know that. But you oh a four man? He's
a four man. He's not you. I don't need three.
He's a volume shooter. Use a volume three.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Use the three in today's game, I put put in
a check who right now Yoga couldn't guard or averaging.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, twenty three, sixty five and fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Fifty two said the shoot as a guard and they
only lost one game. They lost one game's elite. So
Shae might be up there too if you hold up.
So just the word clear. Who is thinking? Who's crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
You don't share your honest for what? If you are
the m v P today. No, No, we're saying, I
think we all have Joker number one, right, Jos number one,
got number sha number two?

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Who you got, I got.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Yo Kic.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I have I got, I got Joki, Shaye and Joannis.
This is my three. No, Luca, Windy Lucas, that's exactly Lucas.
Luca is on.

Speaker 6 (01:01:39):
I'm telling you Lucas on some different that's my exact five.
That's my five.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Charlie, You're fine.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Jokic s g A.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Luca wouldn't be honest, No, you can't put him in
front of all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Now, hold on, why do you put yournis last? Okayian Bean?
When b as probably the better record? Who and Milwaukee?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
I think what you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
They only lost twice?

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
I mean, yeah, they're eight and two, b.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Seven and four. Bro, you have like seven and four?

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Okay, the best not the player all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I'm saying players all I'm saying when Be's a two
way player.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
And so is Jean, but he's right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Who would you give the defensive player of the year?

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
You said, it's the first time you've ever seen guys
turn around.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I'm honest. Would you give it to?

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
That's the only thing someone Macho said, who's the most
valuable to their team?

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
That's Windy for sure? Okay, and it's what Okay, listen,
Milwaukee can still win?

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
What? What?

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Milwaukee? Still this Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Team right here? Milwaukee still win game. Jana's out there
and see what happens to take me take winby off
the court, off the court, and they're not terrible. I
want to say, you've still got that basketball team.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Who's a reprotective Who.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I mean, can I give you guys, Let me give
you guys some stats. Bro, I'm gonna give you his
justice plus.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
I don't know how good Okay is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I'm gonna give u plus minus with Wemby on the floor,
win with the most been negative is negative twelve against
the New Orleans Pelicans when he's in foul trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Other than that, think about the turnaround, Yo, they're pretty
much hasn't been in playoffs since twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
It's a fact the only seventy two bro and two
but has a good bulls so but Field.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Without giddy they beat the bulls he had with the bulls.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
The record is pop. Can we actually how much you
want to put the bulls on the plane? Bulls are good, Bro,
they a good Hey put that on wat play on
the way for Hunds the play team. So you're saying
they don't they're in the PLAYE show me. And he's saying,

(01:04:15):
and if they make playoffs, I win. No I don't.
I'm I said play.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
He says they're gonna be You're gonna be in top
if they make the top No, no, no, no, making
the playoffs. I'm saying at the end of the year
they are on the play me for play, They're not going.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
To be nine to ten. They're gonna be eight or higher.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
No, he's saying they're going to be lower than six.
That's what his thing. Yes, they're gonna be lower than six, seven,
eight to seven.

Speaker 6 (01:04:39):
Or seven countess playing Yes, yes, seven, eight, Still got
to try to make it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah, he says they're not gonna be a playing team.
They're gonna He's saying that they will not be a
defenditive seed when the when eighty two games are played.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
So they're not going to be between the one of
the top sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yes, that's what he's saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
You want to try a little solid fun, we'll do
it a hunt right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
By the way, let's I want to go back to the conversation.
We're just talking numbers. San Antonio still got dear in fox.
Who does who does the Bucks have? Without honest let's
talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
And that's why I say he's carried him. Yesterday he say, no,
who carried him? Kyle Kuzma. That's proven my point. How
does that prove your points? Said they carried him? Kyle
Kuzma carried him? If Kyle don't do what he do.
We would have a different conversation. Nico might have his job.
That's why I said, Wendy's more vague.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
No, I'm with you, You with me? Yeah, with you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
I was about to say right over here, I'm going
I'm not rot you if they don't have.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Fine carried because he had thirty six and eighth, honest,
so what's the fine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
He had that? Like he played well? Like, Okay, I'm
not Kuzma.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Hat who's had twenty six? I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
In the fourth quarter? Well last you saw that last night.
One time, I saw it last night. I'm just saying,
this man did nothing all year. Were talking about we
care in him. But we could go down. We could
go down rosters and we could be like, okay, but
better roster than the Spurs and there in the East,

(01:06:09):
whoever better the roster?

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
The Bucks have a better ride. I don't know. Bucks
have a better roster than the name of roster.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
I got, I got you, I got your roster. So
San Antonio Spurs Stars, Harrison Barnes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Solid vet Man, they got a better run.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Fox, Devon Castle, Stefan Sorry, Devin Vassel, Stefan Castle, Kelly Olynic,
Lindy Waters, Kelden Johnson, Justin, Julian Champagnee and Jeremy Sohon
and Luke Cornett. Let's go, let's go to the bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Half the Nazis. That's how you start off. Gonna start
off like that. Hey, you gotta get what respect to do?
Bro go do that ship.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
So they got Miles Turner, everybody except everybodypt be honest,
Myles Turner.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Gary Trent, a J Green, Ryan Rollins, I'll be poor.
Who's mc? Gary Harris a mere coffee? Cole Anthony and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
San Antonio has a better roster? San Antoni has a
better roster? Is even?

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Or is even? Or is even? Ain't better? Even? Other
than dearon Fox? Castle? Name another one?

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Harrison Barnes, wouldn't see a lum. Harrison's a great ve.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Don't do Harrison Barnes. Harrison Barnes Castle. And what's the name?
What a so? Gary Trent? Same thing? But that's my
point though you just named it. Gary Trance done more.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Darrin Foxes Garry Trance. So who's better, dear dear, if
you're reading about one hundred, what is dearon Fox? What
is Miles Turner if you're the next best players after
Joannis and Wemby, what do you rate darreon Fox?

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Bobby Porter is the mouth turner before anybody big you
got over there in San Antonio.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Bobby Porter's the next best player in Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Miles Turner probably Okay, so compared Miles turn into the
FOS to me is like, for sure, I give you,
I give you Darren ok.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
And then it's Miles Turner probably next.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
I think I think Milwaukee play is completely different without
Giannis than they do with bro is a legitimate also
forgot about him, don't forget about the heart.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
But let's put it in perspective, is legitimate allstar, right,
m You can't say that about anybody else on the
Bucks roster.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
If they if they matched up, if they matched up
without their both two best players, I think Milwaukee wins.
I think they win if they play the playoff series Milwaukee,
if they if they play.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
A playoff there, you play. The only reason why I
say they won't they won't win that. The only reason
why I say Milwaukee won't beat San Antonio is because
if you take Gianna's out, now you're depending on who
to be your scores Kusman, he's too up and down.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
Gary Trent, Bobby Porters, Miles Turner, Ryan Holland. They can score,
but they not like ain't no school like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Forty two.

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
But listen, though, Dan Fox gonna win the game by himself.
All them guys you just said, can't do that exactly.
So name somebody else that you're confident in. It's gonna
play well in the playoffs. You know what's crazy about all.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Hold off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
You know what's crazy about this ship is that you
guys thought Pelicans was going to have a better roster,
the better record than the we're still.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Talking about it. You got your money, you don't got
your money. You got your comparitive Tomorrow got money, You
got your money. We already play.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Here comes to money real quick playing. Here comes money
real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Rob They said, put it off because we got a
better show.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
You guys, you come back and the top six seed,
yes or no? What remember yesterday we talked about he
says that Santoni will be top five seed. You said,
you've come back to it and see if they if
you would bet on it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
That's a good point. San Antonio will be a top
five said, you come back to talk to me.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Let's come back to I didn't look you want they
would not be a top five Okay, so a hunch,
all right, I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Got it, I got it, put it on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
He was coming back tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
He owes me money for the Pelicans ship.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Still no, he said, were staying all right, Spurs not
top five, Ray.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Spurs are not better than Minnesota. They are better than
Houston and I will see. Okay, they would be in
the playoffs with you you know who, you know who's
really playing fucking well right now, fucking Phoenix about to
say that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Oh my god, did you see what's gonna do Phoenix?
The playoffs team stop? The top five? Stop?

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
No you okay, we need to cook that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
That was that was That was? That was elite. I
need that from you any more.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Thing on the honest, honest uh wenby conversation, Yes, no, yes,
And I want to get our boy, Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Do you want to start, Russell? You want some defensive stuff?
You want to I want to start with Kings in general. Okay,
let's set with the Kings.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
We're not gonna touch on that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Get the fuck out of here. Let's play the exactly
first place. We've got a couple clips for you guys.
Let's play the exactly guys defensive focus.

Speaker 8 (01:11:22):
I think everybody's understanding that that's the that's the focus.
I think that's what they came into the season with. Obviously,
obviously there's a personnel thing with that goes as well.
The guys can go out there and play. It's tougher
they can on defense. People for myself is and I
think we've all been trying. I've been trying my ass
off on defense. But you know, you need a team collective,

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the right identity. Sometimes you need the right personnel out there.
You know you're not doing ask Rudy Gobert to go
out there in average thirty. So he's a defensive guy though,
and that's what that's that's his job. But I think
with the guys that we have on the team, we
got to play to the right strength of the team.
I think defensively we got to be there for each other,

(01:12:06):
help each other. But then on the other end, we
got to take advantage of that. So you know, that's
just that's what I think, and that's what I see.
I think guys are giving the right effort. It's just
frustrating when we're not getting the red results.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
All right, let's run, let's run U. Let's run the
Doug Christy, I'm running the playback link in the chat
by the way, Mike Sall'll join.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
There's talking about it and then there's being about it.
You can talk and talk and talk and talk and talk,
but there's gonna be a point where the ball gets
thrown up, and then there has to be actions behind.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
What it is that you say.

Speaker 5 (01:12:39):
So that group in there has enough, there's enough depth,
there's enough talent, there's all those things. There is a
there's a spirit. I'm a I'm a spirit person, and
your spirit gotta be right. Your spirit must be right
individually and then collectively. And if it's not, that's what

(01:13:05):
you're gonna see when you get out there on that floor.
It's gonna be highly evident. And that's that's what you
that's what you gotta face. I mean basketball. There's ups
and downs to it. So as low as you feel
is as high as you feel. I get that. You
never get too high and never get too low. But
there is a level of compete, and that's what your

(01:13:26):
spirit is about. Am I gonna fight for my brother.
Am I gonna be there for my brother? Am I
gonna talk for my brother? Am I gonna hit somebody
for my brother?

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Is hung?

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
That's crazy, by the way, So y'all know I'm gonna
do the playback.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
We will be live tomorrow at seven pm Central, well
six forty five Central. We're covering the Warriors Versus Spurs game.
So you know, Charlie gonna talk a ship. You're gonna
have his jersey on going to play back man joint playback.
I send the link. I'll put the link in the
chat again. Make sure you all we're gonna bring you
guys more content.

Speaker 6 (01:13:58):
We're gonna choose that game because he's a fucking Warriors
fan and you fucking on there because I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Didn't pick this game. I didn't pick this game.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Remember he picked it yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
We picked the game today.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
But my man right there, But what I got technical difficulties.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
But you know I was in the chat though, right
you can't get on anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Our group chat has Steel saying he picked the Warriors
versus Okay, see game, I didn't pick it. He knows
that I don't pick any of our games.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
I got technical difficulties.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
But Anyways, let's get the Sacramento, let's talk about it.
They have had terrible if like you guys said, it's
old lay out there, terrible defensive idea.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Why do they have fucking shitty love bro?

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Rob turned on the speaker, by the way, they cannot
get right over there, Bro, who sack?

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
The last time sacked? Was irrelevant that one year with
Mike Brown defoxs. Yeah, do they have the same ownership.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
For Vec Randie, the guy that wanted to try four
and five basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Indian, so he's been there the whole time. South Asian,
South Asian.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
South Asian is another represent for anybody born in that region.
I don't know if he's Indian. That's why he was Indian, right,
Sorry for you, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
It's just nasty, bro. It's just they can score with anybody.
They can't guard to soul. What are we saying about it?
But he's right, their personnelity just there are a bunch
of scores. There are a bunch of scores, like the
russ after he's Indian. But you guys said they were
a playoff team. Why are they're not a playoff team
right now? Because they have all the talent he's not playing.

(01:15:44):
They I mean, they took Russ out the fucking starting
line up. The Niggas average in fucking twenty twenty twelve,
and like what do and it was winning? What are
we doing out of those three games when Russ? I
think Russ was in the starting lineup at least two
of them. Can I ask you this is he the coach, Doug?

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Is Doug Chris the coach, you get what I'm saying?
Or is he the voice? Who's the coach? I think
he's a coach.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
You think he's making these I think so that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Can we pull.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I think it's hard for a player coach to be
controlled like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Take down the graphic, I think, I think not.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Sure, but I think whatever we just talked about that
we've seen coaches not be the coach. Yeah, but that's
that's not a player's coach, not a not a former player.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
That's a coach. He played in the league, though, That's
what I'm saying. So that's why you gotta kind of
let him kind of run the show. I don't think
he firsts somebody that doesn't play in the league.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
You know, he's not the ones talking about how he
got the job though, right, They didn't Mike Brown because
he was coaching the team.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Right, he was coaching the team. Is that Listen to me? Now,
he was coaching the team.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
They didn't like that, So then they bring in somebody
who's never been ahead coach. Huh from the front office.
He's never been a head coach. And then he comes
in and is the guy you think he's making the decisions.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I find that hard to believe. Shoutout Oasis.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
They do a lot of suspect ship over there, bro,
ship that just don't make fucking sense. Like I think
Zach Lavine and DeMar DeRozan are unbelievable players, elite.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Players in Chicago. You just saw this ship but in
fucking shook.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I know, but I'm curious.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
It didn't work. It didn't work, so let's put him
bring them back this way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Charlie, we got something address when we said it wasn't
gonna work. Before the season started, they said it was
going to work.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
There of course, but guess what always but watch this right,
watch it right right right? I like your chuckle there.
Watch how to get them to right? Can you put
the graphic up when rest starts? He ain't gonna Can
you put the graphic up when starts? Because what we
like that?

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
What we say when Russ got there? But I'm not No, No,
you said it wasn't gonna work, but you said worked
when Rust plays?

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Hey chat? Did he just not say that Zach and
the bar don't fit? Yes? Yes, but when Russ is there,
it works.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Graphics please put yes?

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Can you put the rumors? Don't lie? Use the numbers? Guy?

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Look at this, he's right, these numbers are are are
in favor.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
I mean it's drastic.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Don't you think they see this if we're seeing it?
But don't you think this is what I'm meaning?

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
That is crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
You just paid Dennis Schroeder, right, you just gave Dennis
Schroder a good bag.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
You gave Russ a minimum. Can you start Russ?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
You know what? I saw a lot of bro I
saw a lot of that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Can you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
No? You can't. That's a lot of people are saying, though.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Can you do that? I supposed to? Why can't you
do that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Can your best player be making three million dollars a
year in the NBA locker room?

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
I don't think it's that your starting point guard.

Speaker 6 (01:19:30):
Can he made, But it's still doesn't matter how much
he's making. That's Russell Westbro.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
I know, but it's going to be a Hall of
Famer before anybody on that fucking team.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
But Ray, can your best player be making three million
dollars a year on any NBA team?

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
They can? Then let's all about the politics of that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
They can.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
Stupid, yeah, but why not. Russ is in situation where
he was at the crib. He comes in and he's
still Russell Westbrook and he's changing the dynamic of this
team and y'all put it back on the bench because
he's making minimum. Russell Westbrook got over over half a
million dollars in his bank account.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
But that's how we can talk. That's that's the fun,
what he's making. Now, that's the point of view. We
can really tell all the viewers and shout out of
the airybody and shout out to the oasis. We literally,
we literally understand. It don't matter, bro. We They have
to protect their investment. They believed in Dennis Schroeder before

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they believed in Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
They did.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
That's why they pay Dennis Schroeder.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
And you can't sit here and play Russ all these
minutes and start him and he looked that drastically better
than Dennis, because then what Sacramento looks?

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
What stupid?

Speaker 6 (01:20:42):
Well, sometimes you just gotta look stupid, But if you
win the games, I'm gonna look stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Winning ownership and never gonna try to look stupid. Right,
that's the we we see what happened in Dallas today.
Uh stroder to Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
They're own two a Russ starting though they all in
one and four one and for my.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
They won in four and Rust starts one.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Rust No not as the starting point guard, though no No
says as a starter. Denniston's oh okay, okay. When he
was the starting point guard, Dennis came off the bench
that all that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
And to be honest with me, the only win they
have with him as a starter was against the Wars.
Without Jimmy, Draymond and Steph.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
We can beat that team. Welcome, that's crazy as possible.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
We could compete if we get Houng to make a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Listen, the only thing I'd say is I get where
you guys are coming from. I mean, numbers don't lie
ultimately as well, so you gotta look at.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Both you gotta look at both brother the Detroit Pistons. Though, yes, besketball,
forty seven shots. I know it's forty five, but it's
forty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
It's forty five. He scored forty six and four uh
fourteen to forty five and numbers right there in front
of you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Let's run the k clips.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Okay, all right, I don't care. Get him up your win?
Did they win? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
I will say this though you watched the game too,
and I'm sure you guys, I didn't watch this game.
You got so many bunnies. I want to say. He
missed at least six or seven layups, like easy layups.
Oh my god, he could have had sixty.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Hey, but he hit big shots though, forty five shots?

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Now, what's Jenkins? Was hitting big shots?

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
Where were the most shots you shot in the NBA game?
The most shots? I don't know, maybe twenty something.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Hey, by the way, I told you to take, the
more you did, the more on points.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
I did probably take forty five twenty plush, maybe thirty
five thirty five ish off twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
Shots, you have thirty thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
When was this?

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
If I shoot versus versus the Warriors, and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
If I wish forty five times in that game, I
might have eighty one?

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
What are you saying in the locker? And when you
come eighty one? Are you going a lot of what?
Bro what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Forty five times, I'm having eighty one, I'm having eighty
one and and I'm being honest.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Ye know, your own boy just called you the new mccans.
You called me mcans raise highest field goal Temple's thirty
they say on the AI against the bulls, thirty against
the balls.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
And how many points he had?

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
He had twenty seven? He made nine of the thirty.
It was not a fishing day.

Speaker 6 (01:23:30):
I was fish. You shot thirty times. I don't even
remember that. Who's that playing with me?

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Five times? Charlotte? No, he was the Knicks No.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Twenty twelve with the next.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
Oh yeah, I was getting that thing up versus a
for real what I shot versus the Golden.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
State there year you shot no Golden State thirty five.
Your career high is gold in the State. But you
were fishing. You're thirteen of seventeen, brok.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
D thirty five and what guys, I'm gonna be honest
with you. Eleven forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Shots to the downs and forced steals. I mean, if
you're cooking, Charlie, you are not scoring eighty one forty
five shots.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Okay, look at my heart. Now, now do the same
ship with different right. Not do it for me? Man,
I'm a numbers guy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Are you putting yourself in Kobe territory?

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
If I can shoot forty five times, any fucking NBA
player forty.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
That's a lot of shots.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Forty five as your point guard.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Teams attempt eighty shots.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Eighty five shots, that's a lot of shots. That's your
point guard. My arm hurt? You feel me?

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
I feel you, nigga. Okay, what are we coming home?
What you got? What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
You ready? I gotta find it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
It's not we are we just we're just gonna not
address that. Hey man, they won though, Yeah they won,
but you have forty or forty five shots.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
That's nasty. I know it's nasty, but ship fucking we
wont He.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Had also did have eleven and twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
That's not a recipe.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
He still even though they want a trouble double, so
he still was doing other things that that fucking win.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
That's why he took that. Mean, honest with you, he
should have had sixty five. He was going still can't
find it though, No, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
I was just waiting for the conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:25:07):
He was going, he was going for seven. He was
going for seven. He was playing the Wizards. Once he
got the twenty five thirty shots by.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
The third, I kid you not, he missed like seven
bunny layups like in the paint.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Easy. The fact that y'all was watching Detroit in Washington, well,
it became it became a good game, became a good
game watching the game. I was watching Cleveland and Miami.
That yeah, that was it. I was going back by
the way, when I was going back and forth with them,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Already for Charlie stats, Yeah, I mean he was cooking.
He had twenty shot shots made, thirty two attempted. He
was sixty two point five from the field, and then
he had forty eight that game shot he shot fifty
five from three six of eleven cooked.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
And that was thirty two shots. I shoot forty five shots.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
That doesn't That doesn't equate.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
It doesn't, it doesn't, It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
A qut yeah yea yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Alright, seventy you have seventy was it against this against
the team that traded him the next year. The bucks
I'm scoring, you get about sixty five seven sixty, he
gets sixty.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
Let me shoot forty five times. But Bro, I am
scoring seventy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
If I shoot. If I shoot forty five times.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
I think I I think I'm only scoring five.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
Damn that many shots.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
In the NBA seven I get getting.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Pushing forty five times, my nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
If you only get ten points, you asked.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
You get a shot against a six six four guard.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
Nigga, you got, you shoot one. You still got forty
four more shots.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
And they're blocking me every That's a lot of fucking
They're not.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
They're not blocking me yet. Anytime I go to the
paint or anything, I'm getting blocked. Let's put in perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
You gotta have more than you a man first, bro,
forty five times, my nigga, I'm a man first.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
This is a legit contender this year. Yes, yes, bird hates.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
It's all good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
They're legit contender because they got that man child down there. Contender.
And what Durant and East, you know what I learned
about about them? What are we talking about? Contender? What
is contending? They're contending for a title for the Eastern
Conference Finals. They their Eastern Conference Finals team, continuer their contender.
That's fair. I agree with that. I was just making

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sure we went in the final to win it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Can they meet the Knicks? Can they be a healthy Philadelphia?

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Can they took I mean they took him to six
and five.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Took them a six and the cold They could have
damn won that series the Knicks. I mean, sorry against the.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Knicks, Detroit is a better team.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
I will say this when I watch us in this game.
They clearly lack another shot creator. You can't name the
next shot creator on the team.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
They missed bad. I'll go back and get them.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
They missed a shot creator. That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
If he was the GM, you would trade everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
I'm letting niggas go. You out of two games stand
quick trigger. I'm like, damn this nigga. If you shooting
that nigga, if you do that ship Clay, did you getting.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Rid of the gotta go?

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
You feels calling after you forgot how to shoot?

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Have we ever seen a nigga do that? I never
seen nobody. I'm mad as fuck. If I'm Miko, you bro,
we're talking about play to being one of the best
shooters ever to live this quarter shooting twenty seven percent
from three.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Off the shot behind him. It's not like he got blocked.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Guys, bro my nigga got fired for six rotation players
shooting under thirty. What the fuck is that?

Speaker 5 (01:28:41):
Up?

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
To me? Clay, he got a point.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Is shooting twenty seven percent to seven.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
My other guard shooting eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
By the way through your wrong what twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Six twenty six per set?

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
I try to give him a benefit of the doubt,
give him my nigga, this ship, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
A point for we got around down. Its asian to me,
we got a round down.

Speaker 4 (01:29:13):
Hey, but Clay of the off the court, he seemed
to be living.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
He's winning.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
He is living a great life. Adie, that's who he
shot the ball to. They said, shout at the baker.
She was sitting behind her in that corner. He just
shot it at her past and the pants say.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
That you be shooting with be in the gym. Jesus right.
He don't got no legs.

Speaker 6 (01:29:40):
I wouldn't either, and listen, so we're not gonna talk
about what happened with they say.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Ad new shoe came out David. Then David's new shoe
came out. I didn't even know that it was a boot.
I swear to got.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
Social medias is crazy social Media's see that on social
hit at Russell West.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
But what y'all didn't see that on social media? What yo, yo,
I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
So when I saw it, I'll see that. Did y'all
see the picture of him getting beam?

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Did you see the Lakers joint? I mean there was
a video of social media. I always I can find it.
Everybody come in their cars, like Luca comes out in
his car. But somehow they put a D back on
that team. So everybody coming out in the bands, that
fucking a D comes out in the ambulance.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
That's a crazy edit though, shout it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
To that edited diabolical.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
That's you gotta fault. It's not his fault, it was
his fund. He hurt injuries part of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
It happens. The man had a rough summer. Bro, Let's
be honest. He did get He could.

Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
Really train like he was supposed totnic on fire.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Can I ask you guys this question, do y'all know?

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Yeah, y'all do know.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
Ad wasn't I mean, wasn't able to train this summer, right,
he was able to train his eyes. I'm not making
no excuse for him, but the man couldn't move because
if his I is right. So I was hoping this
wasn't gonna happen, but I was like, he's probably gonna
get hurt, bro because he's not trained and ready to
who and play all these minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Like he wasn't prepared for that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
I mean, I mean THEO answering Theo's question, It's not
Ady's fault because Nico made a bold decision and he
made that decision. So yes, they played poorly, but you
have to live with your decisions, right, you know. So
let me ask you guys a question, though, Ray Theo, Charlie.
You guys have all dealt with injuries, and I'm using

(01:31:49):
example because this is one comes to mind. He's my
favorite player. Steph had a lot of ankle injuries, but
then his team corrected it and said he had to
fix his core. Is there anything like that you guys
have to deal with in your career where maybe had
an injury, but you have to strengthen another part of
your body. I'm asking the question. I'm not making any
statements now. Injuries are they just part of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
It's part of the game. But it's also you mean
another part of your body is weak. That's fair to say.
The Steph is a great example, but it's identifying that.
Sometimes teams identify that and then you work on it.
Sometimes they don't. I think the biggest problem is over compensating.

(01:32:30):
I think sometimes it's shoes too. The facts shoes, shoes Adidas.
Adidas started hurting my feet real bad. They started making
their shoes a little bit more narrow. They came out
with those crazy lights Adidas. I remember those, Yeah, the
crazy light joints. So they started they was hurting my feet.
When I first got the lead, they was they was cool,
and they started changing them and I was having achillings

(01:32:52):
issues like it was starting to hurt. So I went
to under Armor, went down there. They did a whole
ship on my foot.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
I got to play for you.

Speaker 6 (01:33:00):
I don't know what they did. I don't know what
that shop was called. They kind of mold the whole
entire shoe to my foot and it changed everything. Hints.
Steph Curry went to under Number changed everything for him
sometimes it's just some shoes are just just different for
different different people feet and it's just what it is.
You shot a stray at I'm just being honest.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Feet, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
I think anybody that saw me, I wore Levens for
a fucking ever and them were one shoe. I just
had no foot problems with.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
You just switched to Kobe's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
I just switched the.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
Kobe's now got more confident in it, but a lot
of it confidence And when you when you find that's
why you see a lot of you see a lot
of players wearing the same shoes all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
And when you have an injury, you you you're favoring
one side and that can create another injury.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
And then.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
We've seen it multiple times. It's one thing that's very
fortunate the NBA. There's some players that's just injury prone
and they just can't get away from I mean, we
know a bona fide killer, like we're probably talking about
him in a different light if he never got hurt.
And the two most three most famous people that I
can think of right now, T mac penny and uh

(01:34:20):
Derek Ship. Yeah five Derek Brendan Roy Grant Hill. Like
those guys, if they if they not get injured, even
Kawhi Ship like these dudes. Is these these dudes are
fucking different. But are we putting there's one thing Ad

(01:34:45):
has on all those guys. He got a except for Kawhi.
Is he got a ring?

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
It's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
And that's probably put like it's it's Green Hill, Green
Hills a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
I don't think so. Actually he might have been.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
I think no.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
I think he got inducted.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Yes, he got inducted in twenty eighteen. I remember that
because I remember that. Yeah, T Mac and Penny t
Max is aamer. Penny Penny should be. I don't know
if Penny is.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
I don't think he got it yet.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
He will though, No he has not. But he's been nominating.
He's a finalist every single time. No he didn't. He
did not make the final cut. He was a finalist.
So he'll be inducted eventually. Penny has to make it.
The man hadn't had what is it called the Penny.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Doll Ben's commercial, Penny Little Penny.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
M hm. So all right, I want to jump to
the next thing. The Clippers but before I jump into
that shelter Wassis, shelut all three hundred and twenty people
in the chat, Burt and Shell to you, Lewis tens In,
mister crabs. Who else I'm going to give a shell today?

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
Yet?

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Uh Stanley, I feel like you knew who JD are
new here beyond ordinary lifestyle. You're not new hair. Shehell
to you for tapping back in. I haven't seen Big Bank.
By the way, where the fuck is Big Bank? He'd
be talking shit, but he ain't talking shit today. Talk
about the Clippers. A lot of us thought they would
be a top four team, almost guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Fuck yeah, we thought man was gonna be a top
four team.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
We didn't say that because the injuries.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Top five.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
We thought they'd be top six. I want to say
everybody on the couch to say Clippers pretty much guarantee
top four. They are three and seven. We thought they
got better Shelter Ravaughan as well. Let's talk about it, man,
we can put run. Let's run the clips from yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Lewis said they playing with the Wars.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Mm hmm, big shot from James.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
This is wow. That shot I mean, not really a
niggabout hit it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
I don't know if fifteen seconds left you pull them
from half court.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
I think he thought it was gonna foule m.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
It's a tough shot to take. And then this too.
They missed both free throws, but you.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
See what they try to do right there, They tried
to fill them before he got a shot. I think that's
why James took the shot. So instead of getting like
this is gonna be a good this is the best
look I'm gonna get. You made the motherfucker. But I
think uh Clippers old.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
They didn't have Kawhi last night, but on.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Paper they're good. They got better.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
He added Collins, they added Lopez, they added Bob Three
names I A.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
C Added CP CEP played any two games last year.
Times that ship on paper might look good, but it
ain't good.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
James, James Harden doesn't equate to win.

Speaker 4 (01:37:42):
Name your team, name your team, and the Clippers. Listen,
listen to race team with the Clippers. His next team
was his Clippers team.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
Was stacked too, Cpdre Jordan, Blake, Jamo, Most Spates, Brandon
Brandon Bass, Alan Anderson, j j Reddick, Bob Mote, Austin Rivers,

(01:38:15):
Bright Bryce On the team, Paul Pierce the team on paper.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Yeah, but they ran into who did you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
They didn't. It's approven. They didn't do well. What did
y'all go? You got beat in the first round, but
they got it wasn't good. It was heard was hedgas old.

Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
But they got injured, not them, Yes, they got hurd.
What I'm saying is it didn't work. John It ain't work.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Joe Johnson killed us that first game in Utah. Yeah,
that was They had no reason losing to that Utah team.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
They didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
We didn't. They had zero reason losing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Team was supposed to be getting off because run for
them if I remember, not you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
So it's not coaching because we also can say.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Paper, that wasn't Tyler, that was Doc. Are you talking
about this year?

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
You know I'm talking about this year. It's not coaching.
So what is it? The old that's what we're gonna
run by. That's what we're gonna stick with.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Sometimes that ship don't mix, bro, Let's just be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
So ten games in true, can you put the Clippers?

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
Tippers is the type of team that they'll figure that
ship out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
They'll figure three and seven. They turn over the ball
decent amount. They don't score that much on your play
so slow they have, that's weird for me. They're the
third worst team in free throw temps with James Harden
and Quiet Leonard on your.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Team, it's weird they play so.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Slow, twenty fifth in the sists and they and they're
one of the worst rebounding teams. You're reading the comment, No,
who is the Clippers? GM?

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
Lawrence Frank? He's been there for Hello? Was he there
when you were there?

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
He was a coach though back then? Wasn't he?

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
Somebody said something about Lawrence Frank that I've got to
think about.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Go ahead, let me hear you the funk? Has he done?

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Went to the finals with Jay Kid?

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
And uh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no,
that was Laurence. What the hell has he done on
the Clippers? Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
That silence tells it all. So Nico has gone further.
But the Clippers have been cursed that Nico has gone
further then the Clippers. Has Has Nico done more than
Lawrence Frank done with the Clippers?

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
Have they ever been fully healthy?

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
For you?

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
Has Nico done more than what? Yes? Question?

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
Have they always had injured. One injury for Paul georgia
Qui pretty much every year almost.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
No, they didn't have an injury in the bubble.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Uh, they healthy last year, healthy, last year the year before.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Who was hurt that year?

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
I think Paul was now was hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
Okay, so you're you're saying someone's hurt. I know you're
playing Devil's advocate, So I'm not I'm gonna bear you that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
But I'm asking who's hurt right now? For the Masks.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
No, I agree with you, But why do you think
I'm not blaming on Nico. I'm on your side.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
What has Laurence?

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Oh? They had, they had some people.

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
Here today today's show is based off GMS. What the
fuck has Lawrence Frank done?

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
It's a fair question. He let walk right, we're not
talking about Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
They had three of the best offensive players you can
think of on the same team.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
It didn't work. It didn't work, and they let them
do what they do and what they do. They let
them what restart. They traded them. But they got some picks,
a lot of picks for Katie. Yes, okay, they got
a lot of picks. Now, why is it not the
same thing?

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
And they got Ben Simmons.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Why is it not the same thing? Why? Why? Why?
Why is it not the same thing?

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Because we I don't think we've seen the MAVs yet.
All Right, That's where I'm at.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
That's all I'm saying. No, we've seen the Max.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
You have to heard you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
I'm just trying to I'm just trying to the man.
I'm just trying to figure out.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
There's a lot of other teams, Like I don't even
know who's the GM for the Sacramento Kings.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
Oh is he still there? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
No, it's not's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
Bro has to be gone. He's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
For real, He's gone. He's gone. It's Scott Perry.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
Perry. Okay, you know Scott was in Detroit?

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
Are you already? The GMS in the last couple of
years was Scott Perry, then Monte McNair and Joe du Mars,
and then.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
M with the Pelicans.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Now I think he was an inter He's there for
a month, a month and three days.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
I'm just trying to figure out what way you handle
that phone?

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
First person?

Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
And yeah, what do we I'm just trying to figure
out what's going on here. It's really freaking real spooky
to me, spooky, I don't you can the man.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
Off?

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Not of the first ten games not looking well? Right,
you candom And now we've had teams over years.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
Not look well. So what's the issue? M strange to me?

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
That's your question. Where we have rejected at or Joannis
for Luca.

Speaker 3 (01:43:53):
Hemn No, I would have rejected. I would do it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
I would have rejected it, being personally those are about
two way players and they've relative.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
I'll take Janna. I won't reject nothing for Jannis. I'm
keeping honest. We got this on WAX. If we said, okay,
shee's a trade for Jianni's and you said no.

Speaker 3 (01:44:14):
No, no, because I don't want okay, see you al said.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
The maps and trade for Jannis.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
Cooper Wait did say wait wait wait that's on WAX.
Can I get my ship off? That's on WAX. I
just said, that's what heard.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
You heard you? That's all okay.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
She should never disrupt that team that they got going on.
They got some good go touch it, don't touch it,
respectable mass. My position was don't because we didn't know
what was gonna get from Cooper. Now that I've seen it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
Oh oh, but when I said it. But when I
when I see it, when I said we know what
we're gonna get from Jannis, that was argument. When I
said you know what you're getting from Janni's you said, well, this.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Guy's general when we couldn't have done that because of
the Luca Tree.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
No, he definitely could have and all.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
The fucking ship he got from that. Agree with that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
And now if you trade the number one pick and
a young guy, because a young guy, but this is it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
I might have saved his career. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
what does.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
He look like with a chat? That was our whole point.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
What is amazing again? Win it again? Repeat?

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
Might be, it might be a little easier, it might
be a little but let's let's let's let's get to
your favorite topic, the Wenby watch my guy, Let's play
the WEMBI clips.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
I would say a lot of his a lot of
his baskets in the first three quarters. From what I saw,
we're in transition. He didn't look dominant.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Fun all that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
When the game was on the line, he waved them
out of the way, waved the motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
Out the way. Step back, hang hang twing twing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Step back three yes, I agree with you, and I
guess what round them back again.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
But what I'm saying, I know seven for five. I
don't think the Chicago Bulls had the personnel to guard
him like other teams have been. And it didn't show
me anything different when they swarmed him in harassment and
he still figured a way to be effective. That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
He was elite down the streets, down the stretch. All right,
there's the clips set San Antonio. Spurs are eight and two.
That's what I'm saying. Wait a minute, you said he
didn't look in persons.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
No, I didn't solve the problems that we talked about,
like the Bulls and guard him.

Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
Like what was his stats? Theal we his stats out,
He didn't look in pressed.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
He's sixteen to five and some ship. I know he
was dominant.

Speaker 4 (01:46:46):
So he had thirty eight twelve and five and he
five five and five blocks. I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
What did he know? You was like he looked on confused.
What he didn't fix.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
What I'm saying to you is that the things I
have sought gave him problems. We didn't see that in
this game. Like I didn't see them doing the same
things I gave him problems. So I'm not saying he's
figured it out. That's the only thing.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
I see your perspective. What are they talking about. It's
the Bulls. The Bulls are good team.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
You understand what I'm saying. I get. I didn't say
he didn't look great. I just said the things that
gave him problems. The Bulls didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Yes, Nigga had thirty something was Voots gardening him all night.
I don't know who was guarded. We didn't matter who
was guarden.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
But you say that, but then when we when they
put a defense where they doublet even swarm him, he
doesn't look affected. I said, he didn't solve that problem.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
To me, the Fox. Now remember that, all right, he's
d Fox.

Speaker 4 (01:47:40):
Now he played the Warriors next, and we are covering
that game.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
Right, We're gonna see we are covering that game.

Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
No, no, no, I'm I'm I'm roll. You know I'm a
Wimby fan. After what they co after what the fuck
I saw. Okay, you want to do something, I'm drafting Winby.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
You are back as Wednesday at just to drop the
link as well. Guys, we're on play back tomorrow seven pm.

Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
We all played back.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Let's run the conple clips quick.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
Hey, that name is wild con Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
He looked he might be Rookie of Year candidate. Man,
he been hooping.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
He looks.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
I have to bring it up. Watch the Washington talking
about washing it. I'm just saying, you've decided to put
that on there. I did because you guys laughing at
the buildings like a rookie. Damn dookie, because when I
said you look like a rookie, Aster Reeves everybody was
clowning for that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
He looks looks good for the Charlotte Hornets.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
He's been playing well.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
The niggas just did a handoff.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
And what's Charlotte's record, Patient, what's Charlotte's record?

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
What's the average? Next clip? Please inspect. Well, we're talking
about we.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
Don't go from fucking women's seen six point sixteen point
seven seventeen six point four three on forty five percent,
and we really don't disrespect him.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
Yeah, the fucking chat drop. We're talking about not a
Rookie of Year Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
All right, fine, turn off the fucking caking nipple. I'm
give fuck. He's a Rookie of Year candidate. That's all
I'm saying. No, no, he's not averaging seventeen six.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
He can't have age seventeen for the Charlotte Hornets.

Speaker 4 (01:49:27):
Guys, he averaged and he will not get the Charlotte
solid numbers. All right, let's move on numbers. So he's
better than VJ. Edge Come on, no, no, no, no, no, no,
you gotta talk about him. That's seventeen y'all said, y'all
laughed as awesome. He looks at Austin up there.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
That statement he would not end up. He would not
end up rookie Austin. That statement diabolical. All right, let's
move on. I agree with that he would not win it.
But he is. He's in the conversation now.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
He's been looking comfortable. He's a rookie. We showed up
to rookies. We showed up to VJ.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
I mean that nigga had forty night ones.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
I agree with you?

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
Who can uh J?

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Yeah, he's more than VJ. Is what they're saying at
the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
I gave you your props, Charlotte Hornets. Put VJ is
Charlotte Hornings.

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
He's averaging forty that's that's say that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
What is he talking. Listen, I ain't gonna hold you
forty talking about talking.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Then all right, let's get to the next topic.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
Come on, let's move on. All right, you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Man, Let's get to the next topic. We you know
Cony d oh, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
Not talking about No, we need to talk about Coney
Island legend.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
Damn. I remember it wasn't the first high school kid
to be on the slam Slam. I think a slam
very possible or Lebron huh maybe Lebron or Bassie was
a legend legend. I've seen it was there, you were there,
I watched it. I wouldn't excuse me.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
Philippi Lopez Production.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
Is right. Ye. Look, we ain't got no keys.

Speaker 7 (01:51:11):
You get your met get your mail. I ain't got
no malf we good. Can't come ahea everybody yourself. You
gotta sign a waiver to come into nine forty. I'm
gonna show you the inside. Let's was a coating shock,
but I ain't gonna allow me. Coming back to the
projects was a gift.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
It was.

Speaker 7 (01:51:35):
It was a gift in the curse, but more of
a gift, tell you the truth. I really wanted to
show the world exactly how I'm living. Being in the
project is all a mental thing also, you know what
I'm saying, But ship is definitely real. This is the
kitchen right here, and ship the ship get lit at,

(01:51:58):
take care of yourself. My last pantry I had in
my cribbit.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
The whole room size, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:52:04):
But right now this is the patriar. It s got
the amenities, man stingless still appliances and all that. This
is my office slash closet room. Y'all might have seen
this jersey right here. Y'all see the jersey right here,
A thousand pair off whites and all that. Y'all already
know I'm a state block. They're a little wom so.
Somebody got their ass busted with me wearing these.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
I don't know if.

Speaker 7 (01:52:27):
Y'all know, Uh, COVID lost my mom and I lost
my oldest brother. And the next year, God send me twins,
girl and boys. We're gonna say what's up to them?

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
They sleep though.

Speaker 7 (01:52:45):
That's my twins playroom right here. But I know some
poems these right here. Make sure my make sure my
kids read about me. Middle of the Jay's with a book,
a movie, my own sneaker is shit.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
I gave y'all the inside your hood.

Speaker 7 (01:53:04):
I showed y'all you know where I'm at and Coney
Allen and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
But keep it a band with y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:53:08):
Y'all good because y'all with me. But is it dumb man?
That's just depressing?

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
Mike iSIG hears?

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
Why am I hearing myself?

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Because Robin needs to turn on the speaker.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
Turn on the speaker. Oh there you go. That's tough.

Speaker 6 (01:53:31):
I saw parts of this and I don't really know
what's going on. What's the whole full story?

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Is he?

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
Is he locked up right now? He went back back
to jail, right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
So he had twenty seventeen with the gun trouble, and
in twenty twenty four he was part of the healthcare
fraud thing, some wire frauds apparently.

Speaker 6 (01:53:53):
So he's back in jail right now, right, I believe so,
And he's But is he in the is he in
the projects now?

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
Or is he out?

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
Let me double check? But I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
Anyway, Just to speak on it, man like this one.

Speaker 6 (01:54:06):
This one is tough for me because I played against Bassie,
played against Bassie in high school, actually played in Bassie
at the Baseball Classic back where I'm from. You know,
Lincoln came down there to played. They played against us,
and just knowing him, knowing his career, it's it's it's
tough to see, you know, somebody go through the things

(01:54:27):
that he went through, you know, things that he dealt
with off the court, and it's a tough situation, man,
even just to speak on him and speak on Delonte West,
just to see these guys that you know, you played against,
your battle against, and just you know, just trying to
figure out, you know, how how how can we help

(01:54:49):
guys like that? How can we help each other? Because
you know, the end of the day, we are brotherhood.
And I know some people be like, oh, man, should
he made all this money? He did this and did that.
Not everybody do the thing with their money. Not everybody
be smart with their money. But that doesn't mean that
you don't try to help a brother out when you
can and if you can, and not everybody can. You know,

(01:55:10):
but it's tough to see this man. It's bad seeing
you know, it's a guy that I battled with since
high school. You know, I like to consider him a
friend when I see him, We you know, we chop
it up, we talk about old times, and you know,
for these guys to be in jail now, it's just
it's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
It's tough, real quick, real quick. And let's put a perspective.
He made ten millions, so he probably made ten million
because he made twenty million, so it's not like he
made one hundred million dollars. So let's put that in perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
Was a millionaire he was. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
My perspective on it, I don't feel sorry for him, right,
it's a bad situation. It's an unfortunate situation. I never
wished that on anyone.

Speaker 4 (01:55:54):
But I don't feel sorry for him because it's a
product of your decisions. He made those decisions. You did
make some bad decisions, right, You make some bad decisions.
And what we're not talking about. You know, he was
going through a divorce.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
That led I'm not saying that was the case, but
I'm saying, when you lead through divorce, then divorce led
to him doing some other criminal activities and activities, and
then it was a small ball effect.

Speaker 3 (01:56:21):
He had opportunities right in front of him. He played
ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:56:25):
Yes, it's his circle around him, it's the people you
kept around the decisions you made, you know, too much
as given much as expected. I've always said that shit.
So it's an unfortunate situation because I don't wish.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
That upon no one.

Speaker 4 (01:56:42):
But I don't feel sorry for him, because, Bro, you
make some bad decisions. You got to take some accountabilities
for your uh, your decisions dealing with the law and
this that that shit comes with a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
Money, Ray, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:58):
And man, you can speak on that when you you know,
when you deal with divorce and you deal with fucking
legal shit, and you did, Bro, I know, cost a
lot of bread. It cost a lot of fucking bread,
costs a bag. Tell me fucking back, bro, And that's
one thing people don't talk about. A lot of people
don't talk about. So you gotta be careful in your decisions, man.

Speaker 3 (01:57:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:57:19):
And like Charlie said, like you know, when you start
getting to this legal stuff, these lawyers ain't cheap now.
And I had a situation, you know, for those in
the chat who don't know, who didn't know, I got
married back in twenty twelve something like that, whatever the
fuck it was. And I was in New York and

(01:57:42):
I had an unfortunate situation happened, got divorced, had to
come out of pocket with some money. I had a prenup,
but still had to come out of pocket with some
money because I had to deal with something that was
way bigger. You know, that could could have caused me
to do time, could have cost me, you know, my contract,
it cost me endorsements, it did. I did lose some
endorsements for it. I had a good situation to happen,

(01:58:06):
and I probably lost I don't know the exact number,
but I do know it was over one point five
million that I had to and one summery and two
months spaying.

Speaker 3 (01:58:17):
Yeah, it's a lot of money. Fortunate for you is
you were still playing. Yeah, you can make that out.

Speaker 6 (01:58:23):
You also, I also had to keep I had to
keep playing, thank god, Thank god I kept playing, because
you know, it was just one of those situations where
when you dropped that type of money. Mentally, it still
took me a year to mentally get myself back into
the fold of things, of wanting, of whooping and just

(01:58:44):
mentally like getting myself back together because what came with
that after that shit, nigga, I was Once I got
out of that situation, I was mentally fucked up. I
was spending all kind of money doing stupid shit, buying,
ship partying. I don't drink, but I was just just
give a fuck for a year, you know what I'm saying.
And you know that costs money. And that's what people

(01:59:05):
don't talk about either, when you're dealing with stuff. What
do you do when you're dealing with shit? Nine times
out of teen, you're a person that got money, You're
gonna start doing dumb shit.

Speaker 3 (01:59:13):
You know what I'm saying. You're gonna spend it, You're
gonna do stupid shit.

Speaker 6 (01:59:16):
So it's like you said, like you can't feel sorry
for him because he didn't make those decisions. But it's
still an unfortunate situation because when you start seeing his kids,
you start seeing it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
you start seeing stuff like that, and that's when I
get sensitive because I got my own kids, and I
forbid that. I ain't gonna forbid. I can never put

(01:59:37):
my kids in a situation where they fucked up like that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:59:41):
I can't the goals to get out the hood, not
to go fucking back to the hood. Once you get
out the hood, you know what I mean that shit
is crazy. Damn that was crazy my fault. No, I
think it's just my biggest thing. Like it just goes
off to people around you. Your circle is so important.

(02:00:04):
Your circle is so important.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
What's up with this guy?

Speaker 5 (02:00:10):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:00:10):
Those guys.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
One shot?

Speaker 6 (02:00:13):
Bro, I'm good, bro, And I mean and and and
and to speak on.

Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
Stop man, Charlie, to speak on, to.

Speaker 6 (02:00:24):
Speak on with with THEO we're starting to say, man,
like yo, yo, your crowd, the people you have around.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
Yo, Charlie is on one man? What is wrong with him?

Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:00:38):
For good people? Like listen, man like having having good.

Speaker 6 (02:00:46):
People around he's crazy. Come get this man, play with
But now you gotta have good off because you know
when I when.

Speaker 1 (02:01:02):
That, like, that's a great question. It kind kind of
ties into how do you trust you who you can
trust with your money? And that kind of ties into
all that. Bro.

Speaker 6 (02:01:12):
I grew up, Bro, I didn't have that type of money,
so I had to trust somebody and you know what
I'm saying, And I got fucked over the first time,
you know what I'm saying, like with my first financial advisor,
and like it it's something that you can't control. Unfortunately,
it happens to a lot of us as athletes. You know,
you hear so many stories of guys getting sucked over,

(02:01:32):
people stealing from him and all this and that. We
all been through that ship, bro. But I can give
you a tip, and this is it's worked for me.
Shout out to Franklin Street Partners straight from UH. I
was blessed to go to North Carolina so that I
had an advantage.

Speaker 4 (02:01:50):
And I personally believe if you go with somebody who
you trust like Sean May, Marvin Williams, guys like that
who are involved with a financial team like Franklin Street,
they're gonna do right by you because they don't want
to do nothing crazy to make Sean and Marvel look bad.

Speaker 3 (02:02:14):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:02:15):
So like in that aspect, it makes it a little
bit easier for you to trust them. You still gotta
watch your bread no matter who the fuck you working with.
But at the same time, this shit is really trial
and error. It's trial and error because we've talked about
like there we could already. We've talked about it before,

(02:02:38):
like we automatic if I if I went to ask everybody,
like what's something you regret you purchased or you regret.
There's always something like damn, I did not have to
do that shit, you know what I'm saying. But like,
at the same time, it's trial and error. You learn
from experience, and that's what it comes down to and
where I understand where CV is coming from.

Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
When you start.

Speaker 4 (02:03:00):
Making the same shit over and over again and you
not learning, that's where it's hard for us to be
Like at that point, were like, all right, nigga, Like
how many chances do.

Speaker 3 (02:03:12):
You need for you to get it?

Speaker 4 (02:03:15):
Like this world don't at the end of the day,
this world would eat you have to spit you out
quick quick. I mean, you could be on top of
the world. This motherfucker sebastiitated for bro. What's on top
of the world?

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
He had the basketball world in a fucking chunk hold
as a freshman, as a young boy too. As a freshman,
he had it in a chunk hold. And that's the truth.

Speaker 4 (02:03:42):
And that's where it's like you got like kids need
to watch ship like this to understand, bro, Like you
need to have a circle who you know got your
best interest at heart.

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
But also you don't need no fucking yes man, yes.

Speaker 4 (02:03:55):
Bro, you need somebody who's gonna tell you like Nigga,
that's stop, that's too bad. She's defensed though, like I
command them and tipped my hat off from to allow
people to see and look and see his story.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
He seems like he's in decent spirits too.

Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
He's in it seems like he's in decent spirit, but
allowing like yo, I fucked up he's by him doing
this and putting it out.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
Obviously it could be to get a back. But at
the end of the day, you can turn your testimony
into some money. I mean, you can do that. You
can help people. All I see when I see this
is for a younger kid is think about who you
have around your circle. Don't be that guy.

Speaker 3 (02:04:37):
You know, even if we're not in that situation.

Speaker 4 (02:04:39):
But like rageous Rachel said out my partner now, but
Rachel said it though really like we can't.

Speaker 3 (02:04:51):
I can't even fathom putting my kids in a situation
like that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:55):
I can't, you know what I'm saying, Like seeing that
makes me want to lock in more. Not for real,
you see what I'm saying, Like I'm not going back. Yeah,
I got going I got not going back to. I
gotta love Ladder.

Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
I go visit. I'm not going back home. Listen, bro,
I'm not going back to my parents house.

Speaker 1 (02:05:10):
That we do.

Speaker 4 (02:05:11):
We talk about it all the time. It was the
hardest thing for basketball players is after basketball, after basketball,
because when that ball stopped bouncing, you don't know what
to do. And the heart the easiest thing for us
when we was playing. We can spend the money because
we know we're making it back. You know what I'm saying.
But don't look the same. How you gonna go get
it right? What's your what's your drive? What's your what's

(02:05:34):
your drive? Then what's making you wake up? You can't
You've got to go to the gym. You don't have
to go to the gym.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
And this is a perfect indication to the baby, Like,
how about all those people when he was on top.

Speaker 3 (02:05:46):
Of the world was around him.

Speaker 6 (02:05:49):
That's what I'm talking about. And that's when I fucking
found out who was for me. When I went through
that gun ship mother thought I was gonna go to jail.
Motheruckers thought I was ship was sweet. I was in
a dark place about two three weeks. No phone calls,
nobody pulled up on me, nobody want there, but the
motherfucker's with my life right now.

Speaker 3 (02:06:07):
There's the only people that was there. Why you got
to keep your circle tight.

Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
There you got the real you know, the real ones
they tight, they gonna they're gonna check you in on
you and and when you lose friends, don't take it,
don't take it personal.

Speaker 3 (02:06:20):
There's a reason cool bet roll with it.

Speaker 4 (02:06:23):
But at the end of the day, Bro, kudos to
uh Tebassi doing what he's doing right now, because at
the end of the day, this can this can help somebody,
because there's somebody going through what he going through right now.
A lot of people going through you see what I'm saying,
there's a lot of a lot of people. There's a
lot of people that's going through that ship right now

(02:06:44):
and going through I mean ship big baby locked up.

Speaker 2 (02:06:47):
Yeah, I remember Ben Mctimore is doing years. It's a
bunch of fucking J. J. Hickson got twenty years.

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
J J. Hixson get twenty years for Look it up. J. J.

Speaker 2 (02:06:56):
Hickson got twenty years you know in twenty seventeen, twenty
eighteen for what twenty years?

Speaker 3 (02:07:01):
Look it up for?

Speaker 1 (02:07:02):
What?

Speaker 3 (02:07:03):
I remember you rob some armed robbery or some ship?

Speaker 1 (02:07:07):
What can actually the home invasion of robbery in the
Inn area.

Speaker 2 (02:07:14):
Twenty years man ban Mcamore rape charge. I heard people
don't I ta West.

Speaker 3 (02:07:19):
We don't condone that ship, but people don't understand going
down the line of people don't understand like Shannon Brown, Yes,
Alan Anderson, but that's the health care what I'm saying
in jail. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:07:30):
The mental aspect of basketball, like not not just basketball athletes.
We have been trained, We have been training our whole
lives to be professional basketball players, tennis, football, all this ship.
And when that stops, it changes your whole fucking rocks,

(02:07:51):
it rocks your fucking world. And you I'm telling you,
I've said, you don't know what to do. I was
blessed enough. I still dealt with a little bit, but
I was blessed enough to have the pod, have hot,
I was still doing media ship. We started to the
Baja and all this other stuff. We have to stay busy.
We have to stay busy or will This gives me

(02:08:14):
something every day, It gives me purpose. You get fucking
you get so stuck. And because you're right, we do
got money in the bank, bank account where we can
sit at the crib and do nothing. But that ship
gets old as fuck.

Speaker 3 (02:08:27):
It gets old, and that motherfucker bank account keeps decreasing,
that ship decreases.

Speaker 6 (02:08:31):
It ain't no fuck is you talking about that ship decreased,
especially if you ain't got nothing going on, you know
what I'm saying. Like, but at the end of the day,
regardless of what you got going on, you know it
still ain't those NBA checks.

Speaker 3 (02:08:43):
Yeah, it's different, bro, the fellowship, that part that's he.

Speaker 6 (02:08:49):
Just don't understand. This is this is everything going to dinner,
like going to lunch. When we go to lunch, like
fuck it, going out Niggas need that nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
Like you tell why do you think I'm here? Like that, fellas,
why do you think I'm here? If you're talking about
pot liss like we talked about them. The plane rides
were fucking that ship. You can't the stories we could
talk about plane rides or oh my god, just.

Speaker 3 (02:09:14):
You can't. You can't replay that college NBA all that.

Speaker 6 (02:09:18):
You get to know people, You get to know people personally.
That's why when I hear people speak about certain dudes
in social media and I know them personally. I sat
beside them on the plane. Got to know them personally,
got to know their story, got to know about their family.
When you hear stuff like that and somebody think somebody
who don't fucking know them at all just talking about

(02:09:39):
about basketball, then have personal shit to say about them,
the shit fucking angers me because I fucking know I
know them, I got to know them, I fellowship with them,
and it's just it's just I don't know, bro.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
That's why I thank God.

Speaker 6 (02:09:54):
That you know he put He put me in his
space right here to sit on his couch and have
a voice for for these guys they're still playing, you
know what I'm saying, like for real, and.

Speaker 2 (02:10:05):
We all make mistakes. I'm not saying we all made
very you I made mistake there. We all make mistakes.
But the point is to learn from my mistakes.

Speaker 3 (02:10:12):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:10:13):
And if you continuously doing the same ship over and over,
it's just a matter of time where you're just another story,
another stat another number where ship don't work out for you.

Speaker 3 (02:10:23):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:10:23):
But kudos Sebasti man for putting that out there. Man,
Hopefully he turns it around, because he can't turn ship around.

Speaker 3 (02:10:29):
At the end of the day. You can still do it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:31):
You can, you know, you can turn your testimony into
some positive and hopefully he gets it together. Man, But
think about also to the many athletes that don't have
the opportunity to share their story, you.

Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
Know, because we know internally, we know there's.

Speaker 4 (02:10:47):
Other cats, and that's how big he is. Though, like hell,
he still has that power that we saw. We're talking
about him, we're talking about Sebastis tele for still because
at the end of the day, if it wasn't, who
are we listening to. We're not listening to just anybody.

(02:11:10):
He's still able to make something of this. So I
hope it goes in the direction where he's continued us
to speak out on these things and use that platform
that he does that he clearly still has.

Speaker 3 (02:11:21):
He's one of them dudes. He's just as big as
Lebron was in high school. Bro, the nigga was. He
was just as big as Lebron was in high school.
New York.

Speaker 6 (02:11:30):
Yeah, I don't know, And I'm not talking about this
New York. Talk about everywhere, Hooke, Hold everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:11:35):
Hold. When Bassie went to AAU and he when his
team came in the gym, everybody flooded to the courts.

Speaker 4 (02:11:41):
We're in They are ten years older than me, right
eras two different eras. Everybody in our eras watched. I
don't know shit about Lincoln basketball unless that man played
for him.

Speaker 3 (02:11:59):
Margaret Barry, I don't know that's that's his cousin. But
I didn't know. I don't know that, but I knew
because of him. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:12:07):
So like this ship, this ship, Francho Lance went there too,
But why did Lance go there?

Speaker 3 (02:12:13):
Where's jay Z at right now? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
You remember jay z kind of took him under the wing. Yeah,
where these cats? But at the same time, it's not
that responsible. But let me ask you this. If somebody's
making the same mistake over and over again, yeah you're
going to continue. You gotta put in that perspective too.
I gotta do more.

Speaker 4 (02:12:34):
I'm not speaking on that part too much because I
don't know all the euration. But at the same time,
if I'm trying to take somebody under my wing and
the little nigga keep doing dumb ship, I'm like, all right, bro,
look now, you're right, You're right, I'm rolling with you.
But that last the last time I would give him one.
I'll be like, look, you do some more. Dumb ship.
I gotta go bro because A you gotta protect your

(02:12:56):
family and you got to protect your name.

Speaker 3 (02:13:00):
That's a fact.

Speaker 4 (02:13:02):
Because you don't jay Z. Jay Z can't afford to
have some of the ship. Maybe Bass was doing tied
to him. You see what I'm saying. I mean they
got some other ship.

Speaker 1 (02:13:12):
Also, you're also going on what it's like dealing with
Like you guys know, sometimes you have to deal with an.

Speaker 3 (02:13:17):
That's why I never had an entourage. My family was mine.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
Yeah, he had the lunatic and.

Speaker 3 (02:13:22):
Unfortunately I had the fucking lunatic.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
But man Oasis.

Speaker 4 (02:13:29):
Listen today, record breaking day for to the Baja. We
only getting bigger and better. We appreciate it. He's just
getting started, though.

Speaker 3 (02:13:38):
Shout out to Oasis, Shout out to the Red Cup,
Shout out to Tequila.

Speaker 4 (02:13:42):
We need a tequila sponsor. If anybody got a tequila sponsor,
please hit us up. We need that to hit the playback.

Speaker 3 (02:13:49):
We'll be there tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (02:13:50):
We're watching Awards and the Thunder Live six forty five.

Speaker 1 (02:13:54):
Be there.

Speaker 4 (02:13:55):
We're gonna talk pre game. We're gonna all get a
cup together. They're gonna get some spike. We're gonna have tequila.
We're gonna be lit. Make sure you come enjoyed with us.
We're gonna have a great time. We love y'all to death.
We'll be back here the same time tomorrow, CV last
day before he go back to Dominican. My man is
a Hall of Famer. You shout out to see me.
Nice were back here the same time tomorrow. That's to
the Baija were out of here.

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
That was good.
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