Nikola Jokic went CRAZY, Shai and OKC are UNSTOPPABLE? The Clippers are cursed and more

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Yo, what's good, y'all. We're back in the building. Thank
you to everybody that joined us last night. We had
a blast on playback. But we are back in the studio.
We're missing one of our key members, mister Hall of Famous,
Charlie V. But we'll see him. We'll see him in
two weeks. But we got Ray in the building. What's
up right, yo? And we got fielding the building. What's

(00:24):
up in the.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oasis?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
We gotta nor I mean, it's just a North Carolina's
episode today, so let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
You know it's about to be fucking great.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Excited for tomorrow. Tomorrow, right, y'all?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Play We played Central, You know we should just go
out there and handle business and playing no games.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Be easy, easy, Doug should be, should be. But you know,
you gotta play the game. Gotta gotta hoop, You gotta
play the game. Oh.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
CV's in the building, yo, bro, I see you CV
Cee McCants heard you.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Urger Hey, hey, I got a bone to pick with you.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Come you accept the clap yesterday?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
It wasn't healthy. I didn't know that. I didn't do
I cussed that much.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
It went viral.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
But look at that.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
People.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
People are like you gain the follower because he's speaking
facts of warriors fans.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh my god, it went. I guess I got accepted there.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yo, Bro, listen, it's all good. It's gonna keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Bro, My mama is gonna be so mad.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah that's true. He was cussing.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
But we need higher ups. We need some merch your
c V. I hear you, but not right now.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
What you talking about you need?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
We need some merch for sure. We need a shirt
that says, UH.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Heard you.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Facts again. Appreciate all the love and playback yesterday. That
was fun, a great time. Get my set up to
I can't wait. We are for sure doing the Denver Okay,
see game.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know you know it's tough for me on playback.
I was so interested in the chat I wasn't watching
the game.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, that's cool, that's what we're there for.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Listen, this is Dubbs game, every other game. I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
But man jumped in the car. Hams up is in
the building, Delhi. Where were you at, bro?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Sonado?

Speaker 4 (02:24):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
We didn't see you there in the playback. But let's
get to the show today.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Damn. They don't play till February First.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's okay, ship, that's all right. This man, mister Nicole Jokic.
Before we do anything to talk about this performance last night,
fil sent me a clip. Can we run the Can
we run the Yokic clips?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
This is who? This is who? The everybody fucking this
is the best play in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Everybody's working and he's just like, nah, I'm out here,
I'm riding a little horse. Y'all have a party with
your bitch, right, working like balance is a thing?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah, it's bad. Is out here doing killing everybody. Did
you see this man numbers last night? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:25):
I did.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Let's play the clips. Yeah, I'm gonna be completely excuse me,
not effishing. He was, I mean, against a decent big man.
He treated Ubal like he was my size. He's the
best player in the world.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I don't think it's a question.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
He's the best player in the world. I love him.
I mean a dude, look at this, Look at this.
Be honest and one. I'm telling you right now, he's
fucking Caruso up. Yeah, one bad game, bro, I'm not
yeah one Cruso can't.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Stop yok Let it happen again. Let cruise go gard
him again. He's gonna fuck Caruso.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Up yet one bad game. We ain't gonna do that, Broe.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, And the thing is bro the fact that they
have a team where he can rest too. I mean,
ministry play last night? Was it thirty one?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Like thirty two? I think thirty two, thirty three?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Play thirty two minutes? I think he didn't even play
a lot of minutes. Check fifty still had fifty something.
I'm a double check. Don't don't fact check me on.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
That he's playing. He is playing at a clearly an
MVP level. But you got thirty four. Sorry.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
He's impressing every single night eighteen twenty three from the field.
I gotta ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Shooting a lot of threes too. Actually, let's talk about
the performance first. I gotta ask you question after go ahead,
that's the question. He's the best player in the world, right, Yeah,
you said offensive. If you're to pick one player, you
pick Kevin Durant over him. Why would you pick it
over that?

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Man? Ah?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, I think you both said that.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Mean me and Charlie were rocking with yo kic. Are
y'all still thinking.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I'm gonna be honest, bro Kevin duran still the best.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
But for sure, But what does he do for you
passing wise?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
No, he does everything. That's what when I say get offensively,
go get a bucket, we're gonna pay.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yok, that wasn't our context. Context as you start a team,
who's the better offensive player? I don't know that wasn't
I don't know if that context, that was our context.
If I you, I would have never said I think
he's the best player in the world.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Why would I say.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
We talked about in their prime?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
No, I don't think he's in his prime right now.
But Kevin Durant is prime. Is not Kevin Durant today
twenty seventeen. Kevin Durant was a different animal.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
So the context was if we took both of them
in their prime and you want to start one team.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Which no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
On the offensive side, though.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I thought we were saying who would get a bucket?
What I thought thought that was what we said bucket? No,
that was that was I'm going with because of what
he does.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
You pass a TV. You don't remember that ship stop stop,
don't do that. I promise you. I think the content
we can go look back. Hey block CV, block CV.
I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure the content was, if
you needed a bucket at the end of game, would
you go to yok? Would you go to KD? You're

(06:20):
going to KD every day of the week.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I'm just putting it in the chat.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Every day of the week. At the end of the game,
you're giving the ball to Kevin Durrant. But if you're
starting a team, I think if you're starting a team
with anybody that's in the NBA, you're picking Yo.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Any team if you want to win this year, yes,
if you.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Want to win this year now for longevity, if everyone's
in there where they are right now in their career,
you're picking Winby.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Actually no, I'm picking I'm picking Joker.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I am too because I'm gonna pick Wimby today. Wow.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Because the thing is, at the end of the day,
jokers still got another five years.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
He can play a long as he won't talk the
way he plays today. Today, you're picking Yo Joker for
a five year deal where you could get Wimby on
he's on one. Your three women's gonna play twelve for sure,
playing at least eight for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
But I get that for five years and have a
chance to win for the next five years.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm with that.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
I'm taking a joker for five and then after that
life try to go get Wimby.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Ah, hey man, it's hard to Hey, listen, all I
gotta say is bro.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
But Bil, this is what I would say to you, right,
we had like we I said this on the air
yesterday and you you said you understand uncovered. We haven't
seen Wemby solve his problem yet of getting double two
sworn by by smaller defenders. People take him on the
g I didn't. A lot of his buckets were in movement,
were in the offense.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
They weren't like, give me the ball and let me
go make it happen.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yes, I don't think sometimes like he might not be
a player where you just give him the ball, go
get a bucket type of dude. He can, But like
when you're playing against Draymond Green, that's not gonna work.
You gotta be on the move. And he played with
if he didn't if he didn't turn.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
The ball over, he's a full foot taller.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Than him, Draymond Strong, But that doesn't matter. It's still easy.
Like you, it's not as easy as you're saying it,
though you're saying it like Oh wait, but when somebody's
bumping you off your spot, make you uncomfortable, and he
still has to learn that part. You see what I'm saying.
So at the end of the.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Day, when we played well last night, and that's what's scary,
he's still learning.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
He's still learning. He had a triple double last night
almost I'm almost had a qual.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
But that's my point to you, is that he hasn't
figured that out yet. We don't have to see him
figure out, which he will.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
But that's the that's the thing though. He took a
big step to me from that Veenis game to last night. Right,
this is a former little defensive guy that was gardening him.
You had Draymond Green garden him. He had what was
his number last night?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
He had like thirty twelve and like ten or something some.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Stupid he had thirty six points, fifteen rebounds, ten assists.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, stupid.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
If he don't throw eight no look passes and turn
the ball over. He had a great game, you know
what I'm saying. So my thing is he's learning the game.
He's learning the game every single night. What do you
do when he figures it out? Scary? You see what
I'm saying I think she said, where's my husband with you?

(09:33):
La La? The crazy they beside each other watching.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
To say, hey, getting some views, shout, I appreciate the love.
We appreciate the love.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
No sorry, I get after yolkids will go down this
top ten player ever the place.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
We're gonna talk about it right after. Let me give
some shout the fence we've seen in your chat mister Crabs.
Obviously Charlie La La sonetto Joshua, we see you here
a couple of days and young appreciate the paulog, but
we appreciate you tapping in, although you're always roasting us
on our Lakers takes. Shelter Lewis t Shelter Oasis Shelter,
Nate Ghost, Liz.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
You look like you're new here.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Make sure you join us every single Monday to Thursday. P.
Two Mike T's in the chat. See some new viewers
like Larry Spice, ge Raffles in the building. But question
for you, whise where do you guys have jok today
in terms of all time centers, like, let's actually talk
about it? To five he talked two? Actually top three,

(10:32):
he top five, he top three.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
He tough five because I got Shaq in the chem
in front.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Of him, Shaq and the Qem and Kareem. Can we
have the conversation?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Is he in front of Kareem?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Can we have the conversation? Players today are so much
more evolved.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Man, this is a tough one. This is a tough one.
I don't know if he's in front of Kareem. This
is a tough one for me because you know I
am about old school. You show a lot of love,
I'll get an old school They they hummage man paid
the way for for a lot of us. Man, So
it's kind of hard for me to put some of these,
some of these guys in front of them. But boy,

(11:14):
Yokis just special. Yogis would go down as one of
the best centers they ever played this game. I'm sorry,
that's what it is. I don't think I'll go on
ear and actually say where I'll put him at.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't think. I don't think I'll ever do that.
But he's gonna go down as one of the best
centers ever. You know, he's gonna be up there with Shack.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
There's not a He's.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Gonna be there with Shack. Jokish wins the m v
P this year, he's over a king for me. He
has to do it. He has to get another m
v P and another finals run. That's four. That's four.
You can't. You can't, you can't. There's no really good
there's no really debate. It's not it's a debate, but

(11:55):
it's not really for m vps.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
No, that's consistency. He's been consistent because he could have
won it last year.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Ray we're talking about he could have won it last year,
should have won it. They'll give it this year. I mean,
at the end of the day, we're sitting here talking
about a guy who what year is he in? He
was dropping fifteen, he's in year ten and a ten
and possibly four.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
I don't even know if he's going to play. Let's
be honest after this contract, because he's like, I want to.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Retire, he wants to racist horses, and let's be let's
be completely honest here. The year Joel Embiid won his MVP,
it was one of the ones where like Joel earned
it for sure, but it was like, can we really
give it to this man again? So Joel won that one,

(12:50):
then he won the next one, and then they was like, oh,
can he win another one?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
We gotta give it the fucking shayna get it this year.
So ultimately he could have had five in a row.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
This man could have had no plus this year. He
could have had six m vps in a row. If
he would have did that, you gotta put him up there, like,
he ultimately could have had six m vps in a row.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
If he did that, you gotta put him behind himj
that's crazy. No, look, no, that's a fact. That's crazy.
Nobody's done that. Talk about that. Nobody's ever done that.
If you would have won six MVP straight, I.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Don't think he'd ever win. You can't win six VP straight.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
He's in front of her kings. It's called voter. It's
never happening. He's in front of the king. For me,
because after I just said that, you gotta think about this.
He could have won six in a row. Talk to
you about it offline?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Got you so, Hey, Charlie, I don't need you to
say start typing Hong when you're not in the building.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I can out of here. I could say that about
most great players.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I would say this though.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Hey he's up there, bro, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh, there is that comment let's just replace hung or
right for Jay Jackson for the four off for four club.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
But I will ask you guys this right, yeah, you
replace me, y'all think y'all think please replace this hip
is done for y'all.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Think Yokic. What there's no m v P. Jokics has
gotten it. There's been an argument.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
The problem with the resume is he just doesn't have
enough chips. A lot of those guys, everybody there has multiple.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Chips, like there's no there's no there's no year, but
like oh ship that should have went to somebody else.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
If win, if he gets one more on the need
is to two chips. You need to two chips.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's what I said. I said, you do need to
if he gets an m v P this year and
a chip and finals MVP again.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I genuinely think if you climb, if you want to
be in the goats, you gotta at least do it twice.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
You gotta climb the mountaintop twice.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
In my opinion, I'm saying because you got to show
you it wasn't a fluke. Like I know it's not
a fluke because there's a lot of stuff that goes
into it. But you gotta prove you could do it
multiple times. Yeah, it ain't a fluke because he still
do his.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
No, No, I know that, so uh he's pushing the narrative.
J Jackson, they're the best. They're the best.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I think they're the best team in the n b
A them, okay, see are right there. But because of that, man,
let's talk about the best team in the NBA. BRO,
I don't know if okay.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Playing with people, know they are playing with people, they
are making.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Is not even close?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Made Austin Reeves and Luca looked like themselves what they've done.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I hear you.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
And it was on the back to back they just
played Golden State neighborhood. Hear you, Bro, team is okay,
I hear you. Okay see is a very good basketball team.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Good. The fact you gave Jokic more weapons is dangerous.
You gave you gave the best player in the world
more talent. That's what happened to bron You gave Brin
more talent. Look what he did. He went to fucking
how many straights? How many finals did he go to?

(16:08):
Strang eight?

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I think you gave him more ammo. At first, you
gave him one clip one hit. Fuck now, you gave
him a whole clip this ship Denver, thank you, Kurt
Denver got better.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
And they took Okay see the seven, but.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
We gonna actually, okay, did't get better.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
We don't play the clip of ship. We don't talk
about Shy, but Shay got better.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
What is better? Mitchell? Okay, you replace your Mitchell's. Mitchell's
production is gonna go down. It is because when jdu
comes back, his production not gonna go down. He coming
off the bench and then he's gonna be there. Bitch guy.
Oh my god. Okay, I like Mitchell. I'm not gonna
hold you. I do like Mitchell. I told you that
last night they're talking about about Jada. I'm a whole

(17:00):
I'm a big Tom Mitchell. I'm a big fan. I
do like Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I think when it comes down to the end of
the year, are twelve one.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
They are twelve and one.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Without the second best player. Congratulations, they are doing a
great fucking there was won.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
A championship lest year. Used to acting like Demmer's nine
and two.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
You know what, you know what I will say a
good point A g got better this year.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
To get better this year? Look good not even gonna lie.
Aaron Gordon, Cam Johnson, Nakola Yokis, Jamal Murray, Christian Brown,
Fucking Valentinnis, Tim Hardaway, Bruce Brown, that Paul wants it.
They've gotten better, Bro. We need to put.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Okay C in the East so that can be our matchup,
our finals.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
That would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
So here's my thing, right, everybody here has very valid points.
I do believe that will be the better team in
the playoffs. I do believe that.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I can't say that, but.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, that's just my thought. I'm not saying that's a statement.
That's just my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
It's gonna be one hell of a Western Conference Finals.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
It will be one hell of a Western Conference Finals.
Do you guys believe that?

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Okay See, I feel like, Okay He's gonna be on
a twenty sixteen Golden Say thing where they want to
win a lot of games and they I just feel
like the repeat is a curse.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Bro, That's just how I feel.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
People has done it, so you can't say it's a curse.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
But they were so dominant.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I don't think Okay' is that dominant every team that's repeated.
More so, like I don't think anybody thought anybody was
beating Golden State. I don't think any any team thought
they were gonna beat Miami when they repeat it. I
don't think anybody though they're gonna beat the Lakers when
they repeat it.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I don't think nobody could. I don't think nobody think
they could be.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Okay, see that's you, But as a contender, I think
that's that's the only team.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
But that's my point though, single team.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
There's one team. Yeah, you thought Cleveland could be Golden
State back in.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
The day when Kevin Durant, I did not think a
single soul.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
That's you because you was a Warriors fan. But me,
I don't care about h I thought Lebron.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
It was seven games with O k D. You want
to add the best scorer to ever touch touch of basketball.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah, they still had Kyrie Irving, Lebron James.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
It was it got nasty.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
It got nasty because that's what was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Did somebody get hurt that series?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
No, everybody's health. Everybody everybody who's healthy.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
So what.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
But I'm still I'm still thinking that Lebron James and
Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Kevin loves anytime you put Lebron James.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
You're right, but you're.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Y'all are willing to say seven game series. No, I
still have got Denver, you think. Okay see, they're not hurt,
Yokis ain't. Jokis is healthy fresh, they can beat Jokis.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
The only reason they bea Yokis last year is because
he was tired.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's an ag was playing on one leg.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
And their team is better.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Ray, I got to see it.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
You gotta see it, all right. I mean that's fair.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I'm rolling with both teams. Y'all know that. I know
you rolling.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
I played for both organizations and I'm rolling with both teams.
But okaysee, is the defending champs, So I gotta see
it bro right now in the twelve and one and
Denver is nine to two. B So in thirty four minutes,
y'all to say, I'm a numbers guy.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Fifty five, twelve and six eighteen for twenty three from
the field.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
There's a point too.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
J Double wasn't healthy for that serious point.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
J Dob wasn't it. J Dob had no no, no, but
he was. He was still his hed doing it.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
He played with a broken hand, with a broken hand.
The Nigga played with one leg.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, okay, broken hand.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
And he played with the broken hands. He still played
the whole Yeah, no, I need my leg. You need
your hands too. He was still he can he was
able to bro y'all saw agent. I know, but the
too who was more hurt. Ag ag ag was still
dunk a.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
He was still dunk you're catching the game win lobs No,
he heard itself.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
And games not a game.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
This may be disrespectful towards the NBA player, but your
second best players or your third best player a.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
G very, he's the third best player. That's fine. There's
a little bit of difference. Look, Jamal Murray got to
step up. But when he playing against when he playing
against this year, he it's almost like he playing against
his big dog two Canadians.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Serious facts. He's like, But hey, look, I'm not trying
to take any credit away from the Okay, see okay,
see I'm telling you right now, it is them two
and everybody else. So it is okay seeing Denver and
everybody to That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
But nobody's fucking with them from the East.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
But that's the thing though, Well, what I'm saying to
you is That's the thing though, Like, so the finals
is going to be like what sweet? That's what I said.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know why Indiana. You know why Indiana gave okay
See such a big problem. They had an identity. I
don't think a team in the East has an identity
that can rattle okay See or Denver.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
It's it's tough for me to say I have I
can't say this for sure, but I don't think I've
ever seen championship teams get blown out like the Knicks.
The Knicks ive got blown in like two or three
games already, and that's a lot of people's favorite in
the East.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think that I think a big problem with them.
They just trying to figure out.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
I think Milwaukee one piece being one of the top
teams in the East, they want piece away. You get
Yanni some help with some of the pieces they got.
You get him one more guy that can that can
score the ball, one more guy if you if you
can get CJ. McCollum from Washington, I take that. Just
a guy that you can throw the ball to and
he can go get you a bucket when the game
is on the line.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I think I don't I don't think a team.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
No, for some reason, Bro, after Brand left Washington, he
ain't been the same brand.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
No, I'm with you, but but that's what was my
idea when I picked Milwaukee to be one of my.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
They don't have no team. Listen, Bro, I don't give
a fuck who can get no one. No team has
enough firepower to be either one to beat neither one
of the Philly. Philly got a chance if they're healthy.
But that's the only team now. But because they B,

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it's over. It's fucking uh Drum and what's the other
one name?

Speaker 4 (23:22):
And Beat?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I mean Drum is a solid big But you're right.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
No, he's barbecue chicken.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, yok just killing him, just gonna give him fire,
trouble and be and Beat's gonna put yokr fire.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
But as far as firepower, you're smart, too smart. He
ain't gonna f like that.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
He'll let m B give him forty and he's too smart.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
He's too smart.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Like, he's not gonna he's not gonna take himself out
of the game by just letting him file him out
like I'm seeing. I've seen him play against each other
and Bid kills him. Yes, but Ki wins the game. Yeah,
because he does. Yeah, because he's still gonna do him.
But I'm not gonna let him get me in fire trouble.
I'm just gonna keep like knowing that this man can
overpower me. And he's very skilled too. Embiid is probably
the only have the firepower. They got it.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
The Knicks have the firepower to compete with both of
these tea. Yes, but you got you got first of all,
is playing really well. O G O. G is bawling,
Michael is capable. We know what Bronson Jalen can give you.
We know what Cat can give you. You got Jordan Clarkson,
You got Josh Hart, who's a fucking bruiser. He's your
he's your Alex Caruso. Then you got McBride, he could

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get buckets.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
And the biggest problem I see with New York is
that Joe is gonna put Cat into foul trouble. That's aye,
that's a given. They what about Clevelandland.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Na, Cleveland don't got enough, bro, You know what? You
know what problem with Cleveland?

Speaker 4 (24:49):
They got the talent to nice, nice guys, the good good,
the good dude. So they need to make a trade
for I need somebody Jared Ellen is a great as
a great dude. Yeah, that's the problem. Evan Mobley is
a great dude. That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
They need to go for Isaiah Stewart or somebody like that.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Only killer they got and he's really nice to me.
And that's Donald Mitchell. He's a killer. He's a killer,
but he's killer thought them line. Yeah, he'll kill him
to the lines, but he still guess what a nice
guy guy. You know you got a team for the
nice guys that's very talented. You gotta have somebody who
means you gotta have you gotta have one of two
dealing brooks. I'm sorry, Yeah, you gotta have. You gotta

(25:29):
have two or three assholds. I'm sorry. Carusso is a
guy who just gonna He don't give a fuck. He
don't give off.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
I feel like that whole Okay, See, team doesn't give
a fuck. They're all like, we're young, we don't.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Give a fuck.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
We just do what we do.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's how they play.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
They're not they're cool guys, but they're just like whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
They have a team that sold. They know everyone knows
their fucking role.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
They got a really good college team. Yes, but it's
a pro team. Yeah, they got college pros. Yeah, for
they all fuck with each other. Caruso is the is
the the sixth year college guy, the COVID.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
He's Ryan Cormack.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, he's the old head and you got all the
young guys. That's just like, is an asshole? Actually yeah,
he got a little, he got a little greediness to him.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I'm gonna shout.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Beyond ordinary, he said a couple of times. You did
a great job of the de baking episode. Ap appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Appreciate Does this thing on run your race for sure?

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Shelter Oasis shout to everybody reborn. There's no way in
hell you think you honest is better than your kis
right now, there's no way in hell. That's in the
insane taken Balling thought that out there.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
We're gonna give him his flowers. Troy got enough firepower.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Detroit needs one more shot creator.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
They need more than that.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
They need one more shot creator to get out of
the East, not to win, to get out.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Of the East.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
This is my thing. What what are you looking at
as if you're the Warriors and the Lakers of Like,
what do we need to compete with these boys every day? Yeah?
I don't think the Warriors need everything.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
The Warriors are just praying stuff go super and over
for four games.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I think they need a big big. Wars need a
real big. They need a real because kids just so
smart here Raymond, y'all keep saying this ship to me,
it can't be out. They really need Anthony Davis.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
If they if go to State, get Anthony Davis.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
You might have to you'll go there now.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Look, okay, we can go there now you want.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
To talk about this, Let's just go to the Wars.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
You know, anytime you put stuff on the floor, you
probably think.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
You have a chance.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
You got a chance.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
That's probably what the words are baking on.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Play back yesterday.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
What I tell you he could take he could when
when when you get blitzed like that, he said, when
you get blitzed.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Like that the night before you got great players like that.
It's a certain mold that turns the funk on like
they like. It's kind of it's not playoff like, but
it's like a must win for him. He's like, we
gotta go get this one. We do not need to bonus,
but we don't need to. Ye brought you in the
chat but it's not it he broad you damn what

(28:05):
do he saying?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (28:07):
He ain't bringing anyone to the promised line? Injury prone
more than ever.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
No, he definitely an injury prone. But you gotta take that.
You gotta do something for you the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
What's wrong with relying on step Stuff hasn't looked like
he's like he still looks good. Because someone just said,
relying on a thirty eight year old man to get
you to the promised line.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I guess it's never been done before.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
I don't think it's more of a lying. It's gonna
be another situation like Yo Kic. If you wear stuff
down during the season trying to get in the playoffs,
he ain't gonna be who you need to be in
the playoffs. You feel me like he is older. Granted
he's in great shape. He's still running around like he
like he's twenty one years old. But let's just be honest.
If he has to do this for all eighty two

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games in order to stay in the playoffs, he's not
gonna be himself. He's not gonna be good for him
in the playoffs. He's gonna be tired. Let's be honest
and That's what happened with Yokis last year. He got
tired because he had to do so much for them
to stay in the playoff front and you can't bro
it's hard.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Now you're gonna have nights like this. They clearly Steph
had it going.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
He was you could tell he was going to get this.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
He was, he was going, We wasn't losing this game.
We're not losing. We just lost. Definitely, not thank you,
not on my not on my watch. We just lost.
They about forty I'm not losing the night, and he
had to go get it so and Moody played well.
We was talking about that. Moody was hooping. Man. They
need to play Moody more.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Trust bench pods on the top right corner.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
My thing is, if you have a guy like Stephen
Curry who can do this and it can get now
we seen Steph gone runs now by himself. If you
can get him into the playoffs not dead tired, it
can get spooky.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
It can definitely get spook.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
It can definitely get spooky because at the end of
the day, we've seen this before with it was it
was only how many years ago they wanted two? He
showed us he's capable. Listen, y'all can keep saying he's
thirty eight. He's the most n shape player in the NBA.

(30:09):
I don't give a fuck who it is. There's nobody
in better shape than Steph Curry. That man does not
stop moving. That's true.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I think he runs three to four miles.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Again, he does not stop moving. It's crazy, and we
watched it yesterday. Though. They do have a problem with
rim protecting.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Oh, it's not.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Regardless of anything you say. They have great premimeter defenders
as far as like keeping the ball in front of you,
but you can't touch nobody, no more so once you
get past your week's side. Is Draymond Green or fucking
Jimmy Butler or Pods or fucking Moody, that's a layup.
They need a big. They need a big who can

(30:51):
alter shots. Maybe not block him all the fucking ton,
but you need a shot alter. Regardless of what we
say about Rudy Gobert, he he is a guy.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
That you can't catch the ball.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, no, no, I'm not I'm saying they need a
shot alter. If you able to get Anthony Davis, I
go get him.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
All about Kessler, I'm the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'm seeing if I can get Jared Allen out of Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Hm, you can get that.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I think you can get that.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
You got you got something.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
You need to find, something like Jared Allen.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I know I keep mentioning a D, but I want
to ask you this, would you trade AD? It's hard
with the injuries? Yeah, Bro, it's hard.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
It's hard because I'm training him and I'm not really
gonna I'm just being honest. I'm not really gonna have him.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
The problem with ad is is purely health.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
That's it. Well the man, I mean just I'm not
making no excuse for AD, but to give the man
some some help here, the man had a rough ass summer, Bro,
They definitely did. The man almost lost his eye. The
man was blind Tipperary blind for almost the entire summer
where he couldn't train. He couldn't move because he had
the surgery, so he couldn't do nothing active. That's why

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he came in out of shape. So he still was
trying to play himself into shape. That got him hurt
with his calf bustle. Now because he's not in shape.
So that's what people don't understand. It's like there's a
lot of stuff that it's just unfortunate for him and
unfortunate for Dallas, you know what I'm saying. So he
already got this knock as all, He's always injured. The
man was fucked that this summer. Bro I couldn't see Bro.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
So, I mean, he was messed up. He couldn't move.
Who do you feel like, who's a piece of way
to being able to compete with these dudes?

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Who's That's where this conversation came from. I don't know
Philly's team in the West. Ain't nobody else in the West.
I don't think I'm gonna be honest with y'all. I
do think Minnesota has a chance. I don't think it's
a good chance. But if Aunt plays like Aunt, we
know how it can play. If Julius can play like

(32:58):
we know Julius can play.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Ever bought.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Minnesota needs another point guard and then Colin. I love him,
Mike Colin. That's my guy to the to this day.
Mike Collin is just older and Mike Collin is not
the old Mike Collin. To be honest, if they can
get them another young point guard that can go out
there and run a team and do what point guards do.
Minnesota might be that team. If Houston, huh, if Houston

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get a point guard ken they.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Some people said in the chat earlier, Storry, you need
to stop the next ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Because you gotta you gotta big that that can go
score and make play a little bit. Then you got
a bigger that come off the bench, that's strongest ship
that could bump Yoki and Steven Adams.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
How iconic and how story book would it be if
Russ went back to Houston with k D and Steven Adams.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I think Russ is the right point guard for them.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Thought point guard.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
I just't even more shooting as well as Russ has
been better three point shorter, So I'm not gonna dis reacking, but.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
He's not known for.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
That Sanngoon Russ and Steven Adams and Kevin Durant, that's
nasty for me. In terms of spacing, that is nasty.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Basically gonna be a little If you need a shooter,
you definitely need a shooter. Shooter, But what shooters is
up there?

Speaker 4 (34:17):
I don't know. Yeah, I'm just saying what shooters is
up there? Who's been playing well? Though I ain't playing nobody,
but they winning, I can't really say nothing.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
They beat Wizards yesterday. They're doing what they're supposed to
They're doing what they're supposed to do. They winning games.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Okay, so the last couple of games, they beat the Bucks.
They did beat Milwaukee. Milwaukee's not no social Milwaukee.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
This is where you say y'ah to the Wools. I
just want to get a job out of that situation.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
They beat the Celtics, they beat the MAVs and the Grizzlies.
Now they haven't beat anybody.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Really, they ain't really beat nobody. Good.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Then, well, they did go to ot with the thunder
in the game one.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
That is something that no, So they went to o
T with the thunder in game one.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
That was game Yeah, Shade was playing horrible at first.
That something.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I'm just saying it was something. It was, what's up, macho?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I just don't know, bront I can see the Timberwolves.
I can see the Timberwolves, give me, but what they
did the fucking Minnesota and the Western Conference finals though.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I think I had a really bad series in Julius
to too.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
He was tired too.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
But but then again Denver got better. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But The problem too, is this is where matchups in
the playoffs get spooky, because if one of these teams
catch one of them early and they're not tired, that's
where it could get very scary.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I think match wise, Denver matches up well like a
g I feel like he's pretty good with Julius.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's what I'm saying. You just said they match up
when you just throw the ball up and see who
play better.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
No, but I'm saying I think Denver matches up better
because Age is a great defender, and I feel like
he's quick enough and strong enough to guard Julius.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Obviously you're not going to fully contain Julius, but you
can neutralize him as much as you can.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Who's guarding nobody. You don't need to really guard Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Does Gaffer help the Warriors?

Speaker 4 (36:21):
It's not a bad pick up.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Live threat, Yeah, solid defender, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
But as gafferd really a starting big in this league.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
He started his whole career. Damn there on the championship team.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Then they go to the finals.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Didn't lively start.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Started?

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Oh, Gafford started? Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I always thought of him as a really good like
kind of fringe starter first big off the batch.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
To be honest with you, but I.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Don't want to see he said, nasty work this guy here.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Bro seee where you at right now? You have to
you already in the He on a PG probably in
Miami right now. The rest Hey, yeah, see he set
us some pictures of the PJ bro.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Talk about the gaffer can't start. He's been starting.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
He's been started, that's fair. He played really well with
the Wizards, and.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Then he got moved. He got moved to the maps.
I just didn't know if he was.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
We are forgetting about Minnesota, though, but.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
I think I think the Clippers are nasty talking.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
About they're playing up on the radar already. They're not.
They're not playing great, but you know they they've been
hoop in the past two games though, because which called
stepped it up. He's he's he started the season being
real chill and passive. Who yeah, now he's like he's
going to get it.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I just think he looks a lot He just looks
a lot more slow down now he is.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
He still started the season like kind of chill a
little bit. They played the Nuggets back to their monster mode.
They play the Nuggets on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, I did see that matchup. That's a big matchup.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
They played this Nuggets on Saturday off of back to back,
though they played the Kings on Friday. Yeah, who's ever.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Have for Anton Bronn. He's cooking Christian Broun of course
cooking everybody, but is cooking Rudy Rudy And.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, it's kind of evens out anybody.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
I think Rudy's a little bit Stop who you put
on Jamal and Jayden?

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Everybody can guard on the Wolves.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
That's the thing. They can guard.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Everybody can guard on the Wolves over there.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
That's the thing about the thing about the Wolves.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Might be the team that actually have a chance to
now contender should go for Larry Marketing.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Oh that's the name.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
That's the name that I w wanting to talk about.
I just don't know what team Warriors could use him. No,
you need size. I think you need a big.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Want me to be honest, you got to get too
big and move on from Draymond.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Stop, oh this guy.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
If you want to compete.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Today talking about too big lineup, he's not. But if
you had Laurie and you somehow could get aged.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Draymond has won four championships. Bro, you can't get rid
of I agree with you can't get rid of your
heart and soul.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I agree with you all on that point. But I
just think that everybody's a lot bigger now.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Damn. People really like what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
I know how important Draymond is. You either need to
stretch big to play with Draymond because the spacing don't work.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Wow, put that in the tack. Y'all think Draymond should
be gone? I don't. I love Dre.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
D's one of my favorite players of all time.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Raymond is untouchable. Wow.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Not put in the tat long as Steph Curry to
stop Draymond a cone. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
I don't know, Steph, not even okay in that. No,
Draymond not going nowhere longer. Steph carriers with the Golden
State Warriors. Now Steph get traded. Trade Raymond with him? Nah, Bro,
can't you can't trade Dre.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I'm just thinking, right, I just think it out loud, right.
The best team is Jokic, the Denver and Okay, see,
even if you get size, yeah, I guess if you
get a big center, you can match up with them.
I'm just more thinking the Lee's going back to two bigs, right, yep.
Couple like if you got theoretically, let's say the Warriors
are still decent next year, you gotta deal with Wemby

(40:24):
and maybe Cornette or another starting center.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
It gets real spooky, and.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Dre's getting older. Drey's losing a couple steps. Dre's like
thirty five now, sound like he's thirty two.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Thirty one.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Dre's like your heartbeat he is.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I agree with that. I know more than anybody.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
What what identity are the Warriors if they don't have Dre.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
It's a great question.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
I think you I think if you let that dude,
I think if you let Dra walk y'all blow everything up,
they will look nasty. Yeah, you gotta change the whole offense.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
You do, But I think I think that, as you said,
I think Goldenate has to evolved to win.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
That's what is now.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm gonna be honest with you. You may have a
point there. The shooting aspect of having a guy who
can't shoot does hinder you.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
You don't have Clay anymore. What I'm saying STEP's gravity.
You know what I'm saying yeah, like I think they're
and and guys. Just so we know, and I rock
with the whole chat. I know you'll know I'm a
Warriors fan. I'm not saying Draymond is a problem. I
just think it's time for the Warriors to evolve and
take a different direction. Like that's just my point.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Well, if you gotta take a different direction, you take
it all the way around.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
I think I think Steph can still give you another
three years.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, but Steph is great in that type of offense.
Without Draymond, you don't have that offense.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
You saw so many times, bro, Like they are so
spot on with their thoughts, Like you would throw it here,
golf a screen, throw it to dra and Steph is
facing this way, and dray knows Steph is coming back
off the ball. He just drops the ball and just
leave it there and Steph coming off button naked.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
The chat just told me the problem. You need to
trade Jimmy for Paul.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Paul George can't trade Jimmy.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
I think you gotta trade Jimmy is the problem facing wise.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Jimmy shooting the ball, well, Jimmy shooting the ball.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Shooting the ball wall right now, But I think Paul
can do a little bit more creating, creating offensively. I
know Jimmy does, but Jimmy's a lot more to the
who pump Fay get to.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
The line shooting was just killing. We just had a
whole argument. Everybody own this on social media, Everybody in
chat talking about AAR was better than PG. Now all
of a sudden, PG needs to go to.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I didn't say I was on PG.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I was with you.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I was on your side, you was on my side.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
He can tell you I said, Paul George is better
Austin Reeves, I said, until I see Paul George not
be Paul George.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
I'm I'm not writing him off. That's what that was
my stay. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
I just think that there's not enough spacing when you
have Jimmy and Dre on the floor together, there's just
not enough spacing. The team looks a lot more fluid
offensively when you when you take one of them off,
they're not as good defensively, for sure.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
That's that's my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Everybody could pete for third really be let's just be
fucking honest here, everybody could pete for third start The
last time we people are trying to come at me. Yesterday.
Look you see what the Okaye did to the Lakers. Okay,
s been knowing that the ship to everybody twelve one,
So I.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Don't know what in the game they lost was in
overtime off from back to back to a pretty good
Portland team. Oh no, listen, okay seeing everybody, it's good.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Portland beat Denver and okay, see.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Portland's good and the Warriors is good. And guess who
they play next? That dude what you call it and
how you say his name? Nobody's talking about him, bro,
he's also potentially No, he's good, he might be the
record stay where is that he will be?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
He's hoping he's good.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
But they just lost off a crazy buzzer beat or
the bang that didn't make no sense. They playing Houston,
I think tonight or tomorrow the run for the money.
Them boys, them boys getting to it, They getting to it.
And that's that's kind of where And I know people

(44:25):
are already gonna say that's where I was going with
the bron thing. You gotta see what they can be like,
right if you don't, if you you don't know, these
guys probably don't develop if Dame there, we don't. You
gotta defer the dame. Now you can see what you

(44:45):
got who can fit. But at the same time, it's
gonna be tough at the end of the day. Everybody
could pee for third.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Everybody asks like if they trade Bron, they're not gonna
get a piece back to helps them compete. That's what
I don't understand the comments about that everybody's killing us
saying that you know, potentially you can move Braun and
try to see what a R and Luca can do,
but there acting like you're gonna get nothing for Braun.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I never said move Broun anyway, you never said that. Yeah, yeah,
I think it's crazy that everybody shocked it.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Marchell. That's his narrative, Bro, he wants Bron to move.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
On, trying to push it.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Bro maybe went to Germany rather look very very stupid,
maybe not stupids out of the road. When we look
really good, if Paul comes back looking like result self,
we're gonna look really good.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
We're gonnaok really bad.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
So let's be honest. If Broun played last night, Bron played,
let me ask you that if Broun played last night,
the result different. No, hell no, no, they still beat
the breaks off.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Okay, see he's beating the breaks off of anybody.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
The broun is on the Lakers. Do they do they
beat Okay, see your denver. They have a chance, They
have a chance.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Now.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I don't think they beat him in the series, but
just beat him in the game.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Yeah, fifty to fifty. Andre.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
By the way, I think they play too fast.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
I gonn put in the chat.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Okay, see, I think okay, see play too fast and
they just say, gotta pick your poison where you want
to go at Shay this possession? All right, let me
get Brian, all right, let me get Luca, all right,
let me get Austin. That's my biggest problem with them. Defensively,
can't play defense. Need It's just it's a fucking take.

(46:26):
It's apple picking out there. Take your h take your
choice who you want.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yes, I can't see that team playing defense.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Bro' I can't see the team playing defense.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Man shot out to run it up. You've been here
a little bit, he said. We don't show up to Dame.
We definitely show up to day. He just ain't blame someone,
he said battle.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
But three years before you raid from Terres Bay. But
I came home from college to watch you play a
lot of build like okay see and you was s
g a road. Nothing but athletes. That's true.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Our high school team wasn't tall.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
The fact that he played center.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
He played center guard to the center. But play the point.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
What the teams you beat?

Speaker 4 (47:13):
You beat some of the top teams in the nation,
some of the biggest names.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Mattha, We beat Mount Zion he was playing center. Bro
we be too. We beat all j Reynolds from that
was that was good back then too.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Can you imagine raise the center?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
They said, bron Sloth. That's crazy, that's insane. That is insane.
That is insane.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, all right, well listen, let's let's let's move on.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I did want to bring up the Draymond Green clip
on what he said about the Thunder because Chase said
a couple of things too.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Let's pull up the Draymond.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
Green what what do you think is the biggest difference
between the way you added last season once Jimmy got
here and what's going on right now.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Basically, what Draymond says is that, uh, the Thunder are
such a good team because they get along to get
they get along well, they get able to challenge each other.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
The vibes are good.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Also, Draymond said that Sorry Shakee came out and said
that the game has slowed down for him more and
he's got more understanding of the offense.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
It is a little scary.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
It's definitely scary when you got a guy who thinks
the guy slowed down. My motherfuckers, dude, he plays at
his pace anyway, at his pace anyway, the game is
at Shade's pace. That's why I say, that's why I
put Yolks a little bit over him, because that's the
one guy I say, no, you're playing a Yoki's place.

(48:43):
He manipulates everything everything. If Shade feel like he's figuring
it out. Scary, yeah, but that's the that's the benefit
of having a team that many years, everybody know where
they're supposed to be at. You confident. And what we
say about that Boston team, they donet been through everything already,

(49:07):
so there's not a situation This OKC team is gonna
go through and they haven't been through. That's what makes
them scary for sure, right And the reason I say
Denver has a good chance of beating them is because
they have a bunch of guys. They didn't just add
guys that they never been to the playoffs, young talent,

(49:29):
but they've added guys who are been through the ship.
Cam Johnson been through it, Bruce been through it. And
then they still have their core. The only person that
really hasn't been through it now. I don't even know
Valentunas was with that Toronto team though, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Yeah, the one that lost Toron.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah, he's been through some battles. When you gotta we
talk about it all the time. It's fucking experienced, bro.
When that experience kicks in and they still got some
legs in them, they still got used. It can uh,
it can get it can get very spooky, bro, very spooky.
But the fact that he think the game is slowing

(50:08):
down to him, he averages thirty. Uh, nobody nobody else
got a chance.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Are getting border sha because he's so great? Yeah, all right,
people getting bored of it?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
You know how that go?

Speaker 4 (50:22):
I mean it's like you said, you're getting bordered k.
I'm not boreder neither one of them. I love to
see both of them play. They getting too it, bro, Yeah,
they getting to the Baha The fact that he scored
thirty points in twenty eight minutes and he sat out seven.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Fourth quarters is crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
He's still averaging over thirty.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
He's having thirty three thirty two.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
It's crazy. So out of the seven games he sat out,
we got highlights. Yeah, we got Holightsay, can we play
his he was he was he was toying around with him, yea, yeah, yeah,
he was fun. It's not an easy defender either. That's
Smarks Smart. That's Smark Smart.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
That's that's that's the only defensive player of Year guard
in the last I think thirty years.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
You see who they putting that ball screen? Though, really,
Lucas he does look like.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I mean, he looks like he's playing at the same pace,
but I guess in his mind the.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Game so bro, oh my goodness, Lord Mercy, he just
snatched him like.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
That, umping under Oh my god, bros.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
And this is what people don't understand. He not even
in mid season four. This is just mean getting a
seat wet if you can.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Damn if he came off a championship run.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
He started doing that. Yeah, if he started diamond, oh
my good oh my big bump.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah, it's it's nasty.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
But I do think just on Tenson's comment, Okay, see
matches up better.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
With the Wolves.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Let me ask you this, this is the year. This
is Shane's third year like this, No, bro, fourth year?
I think just dominating. Yeah, I think it's fourth year.
He's fourth years, four years in a row, four years
in row, dominating. Right. If he continues to do this
for how many more? What does this mean? It means

(52:20):
something said, It means something something I don't. I don't
want to.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Jake's shade a point to you, guys.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Chase the point guard.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
He's a point though.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
He's like, AI, thanks, So he's at a point. He's like.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Because I say, if he does this for another couple
of years, he moves into my third best shooting guard
of all time.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
If he's a two, who's he after.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Kobe?

Speaker 4 (52:47):
And?

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Oh yeah, he's over d Wade for me.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
He's over James too.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
He's over James for me for sure. He got a
chip and he got the m v P.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Is he over James now?

Speaker 4 (53:00):
He might be over for me?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, he might be over James now. He might be
for me.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
He think about it it's tough because you know two
scoring was back to bank scoring champs em v P.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
James had a run.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Now, huh, chat, let us know, I'm about to put
it in the chat. I would say this, James has
showed us a history of choking in big playoff moments.
Shaye doesn't show us that, and that's that's through stats.
I'm not sure to try to be disrespectful show the James.
He's an elite player, but he has shown us we
look at the.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Stage, doesn't choke. I can't put Shaye over d Wade yet?
Why not? How many d Wade got?

Speaker 3 (53:42):
He got three, three, but he wasn't the main player.
On two of those.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
He had Lebron James reside him, and on his third
one he definitely was not the same player he was.
Like you could tell he's kind of losing it a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Only thirteen.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
And Shay has an MVP. The Waight don't have an MVP.
The Wade is elite though. Let me know, I'm not
going to disrespect the weight. He's elite.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
He's my third.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
But they're saying he's a scoring point guard though.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
So what are we call him? What are we call
him Steph's if we call him Steph a point guard,
so then he's a point guard.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
But that's what I'm saying, But we class Stephan not
a point guard.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I classify and I agreed with you. I'm with you,
but Star what was So that's tough though, So we
can't put Curry. We'll never put Curry in a shooting guard.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Yeah, you know what, I actually I can't put him
there because you just said your talk to shooting girls
with he can't be in that.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
He's a point guard. Yeah, Steph has to be a
point guard.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Stephf can be my third best shooting guard. If STEP's
a shooting guard, he's over he's over shape for me.
Right now, we gotta put Steph as a point that's
the point. Then that is a point Okay, then then
that's a whole different conversation. That's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Being top five point guard is way harder.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
That is our next conversation, though, that is way harder.
Steph is a damn point a lot of people. But
we had a whole argument. We're not gonna talk about
now Steph for Shaye today, seven seven game series, one
series and win the finals.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Is it even a conversation today.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yes, conversation steps a conversation, Chel.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
I don't know if people will agree with us. I
think it's a conversation.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
I think it's a conversation. Now, Steph, Steph still do
he gonna do? So you gotta still go with him.
And then obviously Shade is proven too. So I don't
think you can go wrong with either one of them.
If you ask me who, I can't pick one. I
don't want to.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Don't want to ask the question.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Who you picking? Bo fucking who you picking? Stuff?

Speaker 4 (55:58):
You know who I'm rolling exactly.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I'm rolled with the best shooter to ever played the
game of basketball.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
I'm on with Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I don't know. I don't either. I don't I don't know.
I legit, I don't know. I don't have an answer
for you' no one. I'm sorry, chat, I can't. I
can't pick right there, because as soon as you pick
against Stephen Curry, he fucking puts forty six on your head.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Do you think it's okay? See teams is good with Steph?
If you if you swapped places, see that.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
The question is tough because if you're talking about playoff series.
You're picking Shae in them because that team is better.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
No, we're just talking about individual player. If you had
one player to lead you in the playoff series, who
you picking. I'm probably picking Steph because of the gravity
simple off that and the shooting changes.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
You need one player in the playoff series. And you ooh,
that's a great question.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
He's your starting player that you know.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
We could have throw Luca in here too, but he's
not a champion, so I decided not to put him
in this conversation.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
But you got two check the time.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I get you keep saying he's thirty eight, but like
I said, he's still the best conditioned athlete in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Shane is the best point guard in the league. But
I think Steph is right there with him. I mean
his Shae's team is better than steff team. I think
everybody agrees with that. Yeah, So, like, I mean, what's
the if I go.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
If I go right now, I gotta go Shay.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I think Shane plays more.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
I'm gonna be honest with you, if I go, if
I have to pick today right now, I would probably
go Shay.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Because, uh, the defense matters. He's a walking thirty. I
agree though he's a walking thirty, right, But I gotta
go with sha. I'm cool that he's a walk he's
a walking thirty.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
I understand. I don't think there's a wrong ass and uh, I.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Don't think this relying on whistles thing be killing me.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Maybe draws fowls.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
What's wrong with that? We got a point Stephen Curry
in the Olympics. Yeah, the USA well is not the
gold medal, gold medal champions with period stuff can go
super nova and win your game though, and a series,
that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
He could definitely go super nova.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
He did have some motherfuckers but with him though, and
if he was on okay, see he got some motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
With him too.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, that's it. That's a valid point.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I don't think there's a wrong answer, to be honest
with you, not a wrong answer. I get the chats
going with Shade though. All right, question for you guys,
actually more of a statement.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
First.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
We talked about this on the stream a little bit yesterday.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
But Patrick Dumont, owner of the MAVs, is now I
don't want to say I mean micro managing might be
the right word. But he uh, he had a decision
to make where he said he's not letting Anthony Davis
play on Saturday against the Bucks when he wanted to play,
and he doesn't really know much about basketball.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
That's pretty reported.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I think that's a really tough conversation to have because
ownership should let the basketball people do the basketball things.
That's the way I believe. But I don't know if
you guys have any thoughts on this that he stepped
in and said no, he's not playing unless I see
medical reports.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
I mean he's in I mean shit, he's trying to
protect his asset.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Yeah, you don't want nothing else to happen to this
man keep getting hurt, So, I mean, I ain't gonna
say he wrong in this situation. But at the same time,
I mean, shit, I need to see that he's ninety
five percent at least, because right now you're probably coming back.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
He's like eighty.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
He's trying to save Nico's job.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
So if I answered this yesterday, thy Davis was, yeah, facts,
he was trying to he was trying to get back,
and he was trying to get back. Yeah, but ad
is trying to prove that the trade was okay. He
just keeps getting hurt. But yesterday. I I would have
sat there and been like, something's wrong with this dude.

(01:00:00):
But like Ray just said, I'm sitting here like you do.
Gotta protect your asset, regardless that means he's with Dallas
or he with somebody else. Can't trade off.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
He hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
You know what I'm saying. You want you want him
to be healthy if you want them to stay here.
So you need to know he is pain free before
he gets back out there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
So we I think a conversation we talked about is
load management and this is not load management. But back
in raised days, a lot of guys will play with this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
The problem is the record, and that's and that's the problem.
That's what's wronging my hip. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
I played through injuries, I played through things that I
probably should have sat down and let him properly. And
I'm dealing with stuff I'm dealing with after post basketball.
You know you gotta think about that too, Like there's
more science into the game now. You know, they're looking
into things more than looking at your joints and looking
at your movement and looking at different little things. Where
when I first came in the league, it was just

(01:01:04):
about when I first came in the league. Dudes, was
playing seventy nine and plus. You understand that that's like
missing only three games out of the season, Like, dude,
I did that my first five six years. I think
I played seventy eight plus.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I think there's a stat in the chat you played
seventy plus games for like eight years of your career.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
That's what I'm saying, And now I'm feeling that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Now hear that, like I gotta take talano every night
before I go to bed, like my body's aching and
a nothing wrong with me outside of my hip, but
my body just aches.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Just wain and turn your body, bro. The toughest part
about this is Ray said. What Ray is talking about
as one hundred percent six correct. If this happened and
they were winning, they ain't rushing them back. No, you're
losing though, you're losing. So it's making you feel like
I got to get back out there. I gotta get
back out there when you might know you're not ready yet,

(01:01:55):
you know. Yeah, so at that point they got a
step in like, hey, look your ass now, shit your
ass down.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
You guys are competitors though.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
No, Yeah, well it's easy for us to say it
right now because we've been there. Like I said, Ray
just told you all the injuries he played through. And
I'm pretty sure somebody like Ray just telling you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
What was theb like that back then?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Or did they urge you back?

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
They didn't really hurry you back, But they didn't do
all the stuff that they do now. Yeah, they didn't
do all this stuff, all this extra stuff that goes
to stuff. Yeah, we didn't have U normal text.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
The league.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
We didn't have already. They had that stuff in that
first came in the league. That stuff didn't and then
it didn't. It didn't exists at that time. So it
was old school cold tub and most of the time.
I don't even remember a cold tell when I first
got to Charlotte, And I'm not trying to disrespect Charlotte anything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
I just remember icing rap your legs and that's it
for real. So all I remember.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
I don't remember dipping in, no code tubs and all that.
I remember that no norm attack, no, no normal teching
game rates when not when I first got in the league,
No what's phone rolling thing and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Yeah, that was the thing beyond ord there. I'm gonna
answer you a question. Uh, Yes, he definitely told gave
Nico the okay to trade Luca one thousand percent like that,
You're not doing it. That's just not a Nico thing,
you know what I'm saying. He's a part of that,
And no, we never said he wasn't. I think now

(01:03:39):
he's sitting there understanding the situation at hand. We have
a team that is not successful right now. Okay, we
have an opportunity. Either we can move these pieces and
go get picks back that we lost, or because we
went all in. That's what they did. They went all
in and right now it's not working out. But like

(01:04:02):
me and Hank said, we don't even know it didn't
work out yet. We have no idea. Kyrie ain't on
the on the floor. So my thing is for him
to go in there and say, look, I know you
want to play, I know you want to get out there,
but are you just trying to get out there to
help us or are you actually healthy? I gotta see that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Because right now I don't know if you can really
help us. So if you you come back, you come
back and we wise out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Kyrie, I don't know if he can help. I'm serious.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
With him.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
I'm not talking about I'm not talking about him individually.
He can't help, but it's still pieces that needs to
be fieled for them to be successful. So he could
come out then' help, but you're still gonna lose. Let
me see unless you Washington, which you didn't beat. Let
me see what the record is with Anthony Davis the season.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I think he's only played three four.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
I think they're like one and two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
I mean Gayzey and played.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Uh one, two, four, five, six seven. There they're three
and they're three and nine, right m double chuck. There
they're they're two and two with Anthony Davis.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
You all right? They're five ad for sure. So I
want to I want to address what Lewis t said.
Great question, my boy, great question. We can take that
graphic down.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Who needs a fresh start?

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
More?

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Who needs a fresh start more? Trey Lamello, Zion or
Jah y'all's not on there, But I know I want
to add John there LaMelo chat. Who you think Trey Lamello,
Zion or Joe? I think all of them put that
in the chat. I think all of them. No, we're
saying pick one which one you think all of them
need to get out of? Where?

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Over there at Trey. You need to get out Atlanta
because they ain't give him his extension. Zion needs to
get out of New Orleans because he just you know,
he's been John Moran definitely know he needs to get
out of Memphis. And then what was the last one?
A LaMelo LaMelo needs. I need to see LaMelo play
some meaning for basketball. I'd like to see LaMelo in Miami.

(01:06:17):
I'm gonna be honest. I think LaMelo and jar are
in the same boat.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
I gotta pick one, though. That's a tough question. That's
a great question.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
That's a great question.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
I want to I'm gonna go with are you talking
about like personally or who you want to see you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
What are you going with?

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I probably will go with Damn. That's a tough one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
A lot of people saying LaMelo don't care, he cares.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Are you guys talking? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
He cares.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Let's pick a personal opinion. Who do you want to
see the change for most?

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Not, who do you for them?

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Who do you want to see have a change personally?
I want I want to say I'm with Ray. I
want to see LaMelo ball play meaning forul basketball. So
I want to see LaMelo ball somewhere else. I'm not
really a true I'm lamello. I want to see THEMLO
in a different situation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Personally, I would love to see Zion. I would love
to see him on a good.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Team because that has always been injured.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
So like I don't know if I mean a new start,
does that really change his injury problems?

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
That's true, that's my thing. Like I want to see
LaMelo in a different situation. I don't think John needs
a new situation. I just think they need a new coach.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
So like I don't need to see him in Trey.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I don't think Trey no, you know what it might
be trade for me because we know how lethal Trey is.
Like if you really out of those guys, I feel
like there would be a more immediate impact if Trey
Young goes to a good team of what he's capable.
A new situation for Trey in a winning team and

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a good coach who's gonna hold him accountable.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Man, I think he has good coach, he just don't
have the pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Quin is a good is a good coach, but.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
It's just it's the difference with trades. I don't think
Trey needs a new start. I think he just needs
his extension and I think is getting better whatever. I
think that if you continue playing with Hawks, I think
they'll probably have a decent team in the next two years.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I'm doing that trade Garland, ship trade for Garland.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Nobody's doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
I'm doing it. They're not doing it. Garlands just got
hurt again, Just got hurt again that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
The Bucks really need Trey. I'd really like to see
But yeah, I'm going with Lamellow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
You're going with Trey personally, not think you you're rolling
with Trey as well, Jo, just who you want to
see a different.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
I mean, like, like you said, John, John situation is
the worst. John situation is the worst. But I think
if he gets a new coach he can stay there. Yeah,
but Trey is just seeing him in a new place
and just see that. I want him to be able
to show how great he is. Again, like a lot
of people forgetting about Trey Young. Yeah, so I would

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like to see him in a meaning a meaningful basketball
team like Milwaukee, like maybe even maybe even Orlando.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
I think they're gonna have a squads and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Though you know, you know the thing with John Jos's
team ain't Memphis, Nick, No, No, John's teams terrible. They suck.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
If y'all plays well, they're they're winning some of these games.
They're around five hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Memphis. First, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you
what if I'm Memphis right, Memphiship fire Sale?

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
No, bro, who wants to go play in Memphis?

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
No disrespect to exactly. You got a freshman class that's elite.
You can get you a guy, fire Sale.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Let me see if I mean, let me see what
picks they have.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
If they got their picks, that's what I'm saying, go
get it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
But John wants to be there? What do you what
superstar do you think wants to be there?

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
That's what I'm saying. You gotta build through the draft.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
But John wants to be that's a superstar that wants
to don't want to be there. I don't want to
play for the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
You don't want to be there no more, bro, I'm
telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
They have their own Yeah, they only have their own
pick this year. Yeah they can get a good pick.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Listen, get out of there. Memphis has to Memphis has
to build through the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't think Memphis is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
They got to build through the draft. You don't have
to build through the draft. Ship.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
I think I think still through the draft, Desmond Trip
trip J are traded, traded, they did, They did.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Build through the draft. It just didn't work out.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
The work out they were good. It just didn't get
to exactly so now it didn't work start over. I
was still and I can only speak about my experience
in Memphis. I feel like that great and Grind team
still holds such a special player in the heart.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
I hear that every time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
A lot of people are yo, we missed the Grit
and Grind team as a player.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
What the fuck is this?

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Like that ship was ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Mephis wants to lose. Yeah, I think they want to lose.
I think these teams are.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
They got blitzed by forty yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
They're not a good listen, bro, They're not gonna What
is trip J doing over there? We're wasting years fire Sale.
Don't nobody look happy over there? Nobody looks happy. Job.
I'm watching out.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
I want to see every all the other guys and
true J like he's just he's he's going through the motion.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
You need bro a new but you flipped the coach.
That environment can change real exactly. It's a new a
new start. It is good for everybody in my opinion.
So in my uh, I say, John gotta all of
these guys gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
LaMelo is stuck in a place where it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Ever since he said I'm good in the West. But
I didn't say anything disrespectful Trey.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Why not a fandom?

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
I just I just didn't like I don't like him
as a player that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Said he's the leade. I respectfully he does. It's just
you know, you just don't like villains just to meet
like a villain, just what he did to New York
and you're not New.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
York fan though.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
It's just just I just didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
I got respect from him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
I got respect for him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
I think he's a lead. I didn't say he's not
a leade. I mean, I don't have to like every
player in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
No, you don't like nobody choice, you know, But I
was just asking why.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
No, I just you know, the way he was with
in New York and just how like he comes off
a little arrogant, like the villain.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
And I was, yeah, so I just don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
I like the home being there, being there, and in
the moment they made him the villain. I was there
when it happened. He was the villain because the fans
talked crazy to you. They was talking crazy, and he
was b tap. He was cooking us and we could
do nothing about He said, Okay, I'm an accepted that.
I'm ana battle on y'all niggas. Thank you. Yeah, you know,

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I ain't saying that like New York. You just like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
You guys, like every villain.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
No, I like Reggie, you like Draymond of course he's
played for my favorite team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
That niggas a villain villain.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
But if but if Draymond was on a different team,
I would.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Hate him, just the reality Draymond gets traded. Hey, so
you hate Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Oh, I hate Dayling Brooks from Canada.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
I don't give a dam from Canada. From Canada, no,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Listen, that's a whole different conversation. But there's there's villains
you love if they're on your team. There's villains you
hate if they're off your team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
That's what that is right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
People hated you when you were because you weren't on
their team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Because who here Duke fans.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Duke fans, they can ignoledge your greatness.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I know State fans hate me. I don't like y'all either.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
I know, and I know any and fans and se
hate the motherfucker. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
If they hate you, that means something, right, say straight.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
But Reggie just doesn't come off as arrogant to me.
Reggie Miller, boy, you crazy. I didn't also watch that
Ridge Miller was arrogant, Okay, so then I probably wouldn't
have liked Reggie as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Miller was arrogant. You like Tyry's Taliburn, No, he's the
new Reggie.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
I don't really like ty I respect his greatness, but
I don't really like Tyry's Taliburton.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
He got a little cocky. He definitely got love.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
He little too cocky. I feel like you gotta do
something first before you got cocky.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Both of them does something.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Yeah, but I'm talking about it. You gotta be a
champ to be that cocky. But around the league, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
I think, I think bro I know, but that's how
I feel to play at that level. Let me give
you chat, let me give you a let me give
you some some knowledge here. In order to play at
that level, you gotta have some type of confidence, some
type of like you gotta have something that to play
in the NBA. Bro, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
To be a star, to be start, you really got to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Be great than anything you do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
You gotta be a little arrogant. You got to gotta
be a little arrogant. You gotta gotta be a little
bit different. Does this being real? Have you? Did you
see George's documentary?

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Guys, I'm not just I am not saying that he's
not a great player. I say I'm not a fan
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
We're just saying that you're gonna be great. I know
that definite cocky to listen that man on us.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
You shouldn't just because he don't come up and just
come out of his mouth and be arrogant the things
he do. And any man that shoots her three, and
any man that shoots her three and turns away from him,
run down.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Hate him and look at the bitch. I would hate
him if he was he shot a three, He shot
a three on us, and turn.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
Hate him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
You know you know what you want a trooper, you
definitely want to smoke. No, but listen, I respect all them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Was definitely a feeling. He used to talk so crazy facts.

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
Yo, if y'all could, if they used to have in
the mics when KG used to talk, you know, they
got the mics up under the basket. I love it,
I love but you should listen to what he talks.
When he gets the free throw line, he'd be at
the free throw line getting the basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
When he talked about Mellow, when he talked about the cheerios, Yeah,
I heard the whole thing. How mad was Mellow? Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Oh, yeah, he need he need to talk about the game.
Hell didn't play basket. He said he didn't play basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
No more.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
I'm talking about Mellow. Got the basketball, he passed it. Oh,
he wasn't even sucking with the game no more. I
don't want to fight.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
That's it. You're trying to get him locked in. I
want to fight, and you didn't even blame him.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Bigger than basketball.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
This is bigger than just some things you just don't say. Yeah,
I don't know the whole context because Mello never told it.
I don't know what he meant by the cheerios. But
there was a lot of you know, speculations of what
it was for and if it was for that. As
a man, you gotta fight me. Yeah, you gotta see
me just what it is a man first. I'm a

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man first, Jackson, So did you did? He went back
in the locker room and went straight never he oh,
he didn't get back to the locker forever to get
him to lock and when he got and when he
got and when he got in the locker room, he
literally put on a nick sweatsuit and some tims and
waited from left right and left right back out and
went beside the bus.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
You don't know that story.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
He waited for him at the bus.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
I was so many security and cops down there. It
was crazy. He wanted he he wanted to fight. It
was over to fight me, bro right now, and nothing
nobody him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Ray said the story before Ray said he didn't told
the story.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
Like, no, you didn't shower, and when you want to fight,
you didn't thinking about no shower or nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
I'm not thinking about ship.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
All he saw was all he saw was black.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Yeah, he want to fight. Asking a serious question, how
can these guys call themselves elite? If they can't guard anywhere.
Crazy thing is that you don't know how joining Kobe
played defense, took pride initial leep what it?

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
And but and that's my that's my argument with why
I put those two guys as my two goats and
the two top players of all time because they took
pride on both sides of the court. I love what
Lebron's done and Lebron has won. Lebron has done a
lot of stuff that a lot of us would never do,
is never never has done. He's done stuff off the court.

(01:18:32):
Lebron is is legendary himself. You know what I'm saying.
He's today's goat for this era. He's the goat. A
lot of these kids didn't really see a lot of Kobe.
A lot of kids didn't see none of MJ. But
for me, for the way them two stepped on the
court and how they played on both ends, the way

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they dominated offensively. But then if they wanted to, they
were like, man, I'm guarding you. I'm this is the
best player I got him. Kobe and MJ did that, bro,
So I like, to me, they just just for that's
just for me, you know, And that's no knock against Lebron.
Lebron is a friend, but those two guys.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Are my goals. No, I agree with you. Those are
my one and two's hands down. Yeah, I think. Uh,
I think that's why I like Anthony Edwards that much.
That man is a dog. Bro, He's a dog and
Shade serviceable defensively like Anthony Edwards has a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
No, that's that's why everybody's talking about the face of
the league, because he wants to play on both ends,
like if he playing against Okac. He wants that match
up against the na You know, granted they put other
people on them, but I guarantee he and the meat like, nah,
I want that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
That's who you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
That's different. Everybody are doing that. You different. You wired differently, Edward.
He takes like Kobe and m J. He he ticked
like them. The fact that this man went on National
TV and granted he lost, but said, yeah, I want
that Kyrie matchup after they won the series. I'm like
this nigga, just don't give a damn and then lost

(01:20:16):
last year to Okay. See he said we got swept,
but I'm about I'm about to be in that lab.
He wired differently. That's the separators. That's the separators and
is wired like those guys. You know what I'm saying.
And that's why that seven six motherfucking in San Antonio.

(01:20:41):
He wired like them too, And that's scary. And the
fact that the best player in the world ain't wired
like that. He dominated? Is he when he for extension?
Who when he Whimby gotta be like two more years.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
This year in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
So year three is your I think he can get.
This is an extension year. Looked at it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
This is third year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Shay got seventy he finna get he finia get three
hundred two.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
No, he's on his rookie extension. SHA's on his second extension.
Remember rook Wemby was a rookie two years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
This is third year.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
So he's going to get like a two hundred million
dollar deal because Shay's not a rookie.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
See what his sustension can be. I feel like he
could be different. I think it's different.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Now I'll take you a look Wemby's potential extension.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Think think about five years. Just signed an extension five years,
five hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
It's five years to seventy one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
What's the answer. When's Nick Deale up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Uh sorry and next deal h and just on the
sign extension. He just he was twenty twenty right, So
Anthony Edwards, he's signed for two hundred. Yeah, he'signed for
two hundred. So Anthony Edwards probably the probably.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Got more years until he could sign his next one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
This is his fifth year, Anthony Edwards, I believe, No,
this is six years. So yeah, he got about two
more years.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
He'll get four hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
He got.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Matt Shay Wemby's out for a rookie contract extension starting
the summer of twenty twenty six. The standard maximum session
would be five years, two hundred and seventy one million.
He could increase this to the approximate three hundred and
twenty six million over five years if he's named an
All NBA team, wins the Defensive Player of the Year,
or wins mv MVP five years three six, yeah, five
or three.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Hey, we're numbers guy, Yeah, numbers guy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Yeah, you know contracts, yes, but that's the rookie extension.
This is the max extension. The max extension is probably
four hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
It's going up this year. I'm telling you, oh my god,
eighty two year. The defensive Player of Year is a
lot eighty two million.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
That's just locked.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
Eighty two million a year, eighty two ms.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
And you know later.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
You know what the best thing about Wemby is he's
in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Oh true, Texas, No cap Jordan, He's gonna touch a
billion players a billion ain't gonna touch a billion, could
touch a billing, niggas. It's this about billion dollars playing basketball.
Jason Tatum could a billion. Jason Tatum could touch. But
they're gonna pass that easy just with endorsements. They don't

(01:23:12):
even got a fucking touch.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
You're gonna make a bill, but you know you get
tax and everything, don't make a building. Yes, it's insane though,
making a bill basketball serious. I would say this on
Ray's point, and everybody said, you can.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Find train my son as soon as I get home.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
As soon as.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Ray was someone said in the chat, like you can
find footage of MJ and Kobe getting cooked on the
basketb court. For me personally, I just felt like Kobe
and MJ never get sure. I just felt like Kobe
and MG never cheated the game. They always gave it
one hundred percent. That's why I love those two players.
I just felt they never cheated the.

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
Game and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
A little bit different. Back then, Kobe MJ was guarding
the best player on the other team. They were I
feel with Kobe, not Garden mellow.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
No, how it worked?

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
How work back then?

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Is Kobe guard the Kobe gar Lebron Kobe Garron. There
was no cross matches, there was no cross up matchup.
You took Chriss. I talked to Chris multiple times. He
talked about that. He said, Bro, it's different now, David,
Chris do it like he do it now, because yeah,
it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
But back then, you guarded my match up. Every night
we watch point Guard. I wasn't Garden, no freaking uh oh.
I won't Garden four man because he couldn't scored like that.
Me in the corner. Yes, I had to match up
with c P. Rose, Dan Williams and Andre Miller, Steve Nash, Stevens,

(01:24:38):
Jay Kids, Steph Curry, Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Every night. Wall, yeah, Brown Wall, I mean Brendan Roy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Like every night I gotta I gotta lace him up.
It wasn't no, it wasn't no night off of me.
It wasn't no a Raymond, We're gonna put you on
such and such because he's a three D player. You
can get theirst guy right here could score. Then you're
not even really going over lineups.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
You know, wh period?

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Coach?

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
How we matching up to night? What do you mean
how you got the point guard?

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
But that was a mismatch.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
That's how I coaches talked. Then, what do you mean
how we mentioning that nigga?

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Nigga?

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
You got the point guard? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
You mean you run like coach Bernie Bigger Staff was
a nigga when I first got the the bobcats. Who
you got tonight? Who the point guard is?

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Motherfucker? That's how you talk? Who the part? Motherfucker? That's
what you got. I love him though, that's my guy.
You think he made my dream come true? Do you
think the non superstars are represented well by the Players Association?
The non superstars?

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
I don't know if that means. That's a question for y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
I don't think they've been represented too well in this
new cb A.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Oh yeah, because they removed this new CBA.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
This new CBA has who negotiated was it c J?
It was a combination of people. It wasn't just him.
He's in president. Just him I don't know, so move on. Yeah,
I have nothing to do with that. Wasn't in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
It sounds like a move on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
It didn't affect me. Yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
That feel bad for the young guys who can't get
that middle level. That middle level was everything.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
That mid level is not bad.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
You imagine what the mid level is now. Mid level
now is like ninety five million. Yeah, sign me up, coach,
damn yeah, middle levels ninety five.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Think about it. Max is three hundred mid levels. Yeah,
what is it? You can't You might be a hundred,
but you can't. It might be a hundred. And the
thing is you can only get maybe two guys.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
That it's fourteen million dollars a year. Five years fourteen
was what seventy? That was Max deals for me back
in the day, I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
The five six years, seventy two million dollars deals Max dips.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Yeah. Now Max deals is three hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Shouts to everybody, get in the bag, three seventy seven.
Shout to everybody in the bag.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Shout out to him ship, just give me, let me
hold something.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Uh, all right, I got a bone to pick. But y'all,
when the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Beat the Mavericks, right, now and you're you c that's
just we have some pros over there. Though, I got
some pros. We have about six.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Program when you guys are twenty one, I was twenty one,
you're twenty one.

Speaker 4 (01:27:24):
Lord, this team is still full of pros.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Come on, you think if you were on the marriage
right now and you're you think gonna you're gonna beat
the ship out of there?

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Me talking, yeah, I'm gonna talk ship and say we'll
beat them, But me being honest, you know you're gonna
beat the shoff. We know we couldn't beat them. You're
pro we couldn't beat them, But I don't listen, I
don't know. Now without Anthony Davis and Kyrie we might
give them run for their money talking ship. Without Anthony

(01:27:54):
Davis and Kyrie talking ship, right, I'm just saying that
we had we had like seven pros.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
I don't think. I don't think people understand how fucking
like you talk about wired differently.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
They team was, Yeah, were different, but you know how
we went. We went through some adversity. Bro, they listen,
they can the team. They can have a thirty for
thirty seniors on our team. I see us on our
team went through the worst NBA record and history of
Carolina basketball. So think about their mentality. Think about Jackie,

(01:28:25):
Melvin and Jawad. Think about their mentality. What do you
mean the worst?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
It was eight and twenty the year before they got there.
Oh you said, and nbad?

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
You mean you wouln't see they were terrible in twenty bro,
I cannot use a certain word.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
They were not good. Yeah, they were not good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
I cannot say that. Race said, I cannot use that.
You can't can't say that about his teams. But ya, listen,
let's get into it. I wasn't on that team the
next year, I know, but you said, I can't call anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
We still weren't that good even when we got we
got there, we lost Sewn Sean broke his foot.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Went downhill for us. Still competitive though it was competitive.
I'll tell you what we did miss on Clippers three five?

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
Ye, both of you guys. You remember nine three five?
You said Raymond used to be in them seven or
four clubs? You mean nine three five was a spot
in Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
All right, y'all, y'all say the Clippers are contenders. I
argue with y'all saying there's no way they're being Denver
or Okay, see they just lost Bradley Beal.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
They look old, they are three and eight.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
It's nasty. They're right there with the Mavericks. Let's talk
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
And they play tomorrow night? Who they play Clippers here
tomorrow night in here in Dallas. Man, oh ship, it's nasty.
It's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Hey, what's up CV?

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Back in the chat at the TV man it's it's
it's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
It's nasty.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Kawha just over there chilling CP over there chilling Bill
doing for the season.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
He's done.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Raford hip you a two year deal? One your deal?
I know about them hips or deal?

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
It's nasty. And LA and the other team in l A.
What y'all doing. You're blowing it up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Time to rebuild. I'm shipping everybody off. It's time to rebuild.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
You gotta do something.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Let me look at their picks.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Though, it's a nice lottery and you can get some
your for l A.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
I don't the picks. I think their pick belongs to Okay,
see because of the pauld I mean the sgh.

Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
You got to call Sam Press. Can we get a
bed this year?

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
They have that?

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
They have Memphis second round pick and and their own.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Oh this year, that's all they got.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
They got it this year.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Yeah, they know their second round pick.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
They got Memphis second round pick and that's it, and.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
Their own second round pick.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
Oh, they can't do that. They can't rebuild. They gotta
keep what they got. How you're gonna rebuild and get what.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
You're right, but you might get something. You might get
a first round pay for.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
That's all about to say, you can try to go
get some picks back.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
I think it's time to blow it up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Who has first round picks?

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
Their first round picks are in general?

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
Who have who who have their own picks? Then they
can go try to trade and say seeing some some
of the assets too, like their picks.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
You know you can get a pick from you know.
The problem is who's willing to give up their pick
for this year?

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
That's that was my thing. I said a couple of semes,
somebody give it up.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
For k I think Kahi is healthy. He's just is
James stuck.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
He just resigned. He just resigned.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
But I feel like I feel like you can trade
James and Quai and get something like if I'm the Warriors,
I take Kawhi.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Yeah, I think the only valuable contract is Zubac.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
If I'm Dallas. If I'm Dallas, I'm giving up some
of my future to get James.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
If I'm Dallas and I can get James Harden.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
If I can get Derek Lively, Nause and then a
couple of picks and make the salaries work, I'm getting
James Harden and you play him with Anthony Davis and Kyrie.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
That's a championship potential team.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
The Kyrie and James. They were good. They're good. It
was fine.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Oh that's not bad because you you got to blow
it up at one point the experiment has done in my.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Opinion, that both teams got to blow sh up Dallas. No.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
I think if Dallas gets a good point guard. I
think if you get James, you can keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
You just got to give assts up to you right
to get them guys.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
That's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
But I'm blown up. The Clippers blow it up together.
I'm blowing that ship up two bombs at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Is that one of the biggest I don't want to
say failures, but is that one of the biggest disappointments
Because I think everybody thought the Clippers would have won
one by now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
I would have too, no question, especially when they had PA.
That's why I think it's time. I think Tomar's game,
we're telling all, well, say the team that is about
to blow it up? Who ever lose that one. Tomorrow's
the biggest game in the NBA. Uh, Tomorrow's game in
the NBA. Biggest game in the NBA is that James

(01:32:55):
to the Bucks?

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
Is that where the GM says, hey, James look.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Good, but you go get them James to the Bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Yeah, that's nasty, but yeah it could work.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Nasty for James.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
He has his jersey retarding in Houston. What's going on
in Milwaukee? Facts, Milwaukee is nasty. No disrespect to Milwaukee.
I'm sure Charlie's got some Milwaukee fans in there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
But I was gonna say that. James back to Houston.
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
James back to Houston is great. I would take Jabari
Smith in some of the Houston picks.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
James Houston.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
Do you know somebody talked about that, They said something
about that, somebody said somethingody early on with James Harden,
when Fred got first got hurt. What would James Harden
look back in Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
I was like, would you give Jabari smith in a
pick today?

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Today?

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
Today, Today, I'm doing it today. I wouldn't even let
James play in Dallas. Come on, flying on, Houston, We're
finna get this deal done. I think you go ahead
of your crib, your house that you got in Houston.
Just go ahead and go sit up in there for
a couple of days until we get this deal.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Then they gonna have to give up something for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
That that that changes a lot, because you got zoobox,
you don't need Slagoon. You keep Sagoon, and you give
up Jabari who's a stretch four, and then what read
and somebody else Houston got picked.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
If Houston got picked, they can really get that done.
James and rust of Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
Oh they didn't. They only got They don't got nothing
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
They gave it up for probably I would assume kt
Ye Phoenix is picked next year and they have the
swap rights with Brooklyn twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
I'm doing it Brooklyn. That Brooklyn twenty seven pick is
going to be all right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
I'm taking both them picks.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
I'm taking both them picks. Give me make the salaries work.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
James and kt don't need to play together again. I
don't think they had an issue. I mean, actually, no,
we saw the clips, you know, I see the starting
five where he said, go ask James why he left
Brooklyn Kat said that, Oh shit, yeah, that's what he said.
I don't think they have a problem though. I think
I think they're still friends. They played against James to Denver.
Hell no, hell no, I don't need that, all right, y'all.

(01:35:00):
I mean, the Clippers are nasty.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Let's blow it up. Let's play a Doug Christy clipp please.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
To the point of competition and effort.

Speaker 4 (01:35:07):
It seems like these four games have all kind of
been that similar theme is do you see it getting worse?

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
Is it regressing in any way for you guys? Yeah,
I mean there's a there's confidence. There's a lot of
different things that can go into that. But you know,
your professionals, you signed up for this and this this
league is hard. And with that being said, this is
only game twelve. I mean there's a lot of basketball

(01:35:33):
to be played. You've demonstrated that you can do this.
You played against Oklahoma City and competed at a high level.
You went into Milwaukee and beat them. I mean You've
competed against really good teams, and make no mistake about it.
All these teams, I mean Minnesota Eastern, Western Conference Finals, Okay,
see Western Conference Finals, eventual champion, Denver Nuggets, semi fi like,

(01:35:57):
these are really good teams. But ain't nobody checking for that.
You're gonna have to play your way out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Period.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
If you've ever been to any gym, wrecked hood, anywhere,
get ran off the court and see if you get
some respect. I've been to all them and I've taken
but weapons like that's that's part of it. But you
know what I do do, I'm gonna come back. Nah,

(01:36:29):
that ain't it. You are not going to represent Sacramento
Kings that. It just ain't happening, man now while I'm here,
and you know how that goes. So I'm a realist.
Part is part of our business. But nah, put on
a jersey, represent it properly. These people need to come
into the turnstiles and they need to be proud when

(01:36:50):
they leave here about the product that they see.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Unacceptable period.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
He was cussing, But there's more that was that it.
I think it's just the audio card out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
I know we heard enough. I mean, listen, I respect
his passion because he was there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
He it means, it means a lot more to him
than any other coach because he played for Sacramento and
he played when they was really good. He never got
a chance to winning championship. They had the good enough team,
they had the opportunities, but he never did. But just
I like this because this is this is a motivational thing, like, like,
have some type of pride about yourself, about the way

(01:37:38):
you play, have some pride about this city and these fans.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
I'm all in on what he what he said.

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
Like that or college teams, I mean, if he if
he said it to them, I mean he's talking to
the media, so I don't know if he was talking
to them, I don't know he went in the locker
room and said this, But him saying that in front
of the media, I'm with that. I would have did
that as a coach, Like I'm trying to motivate y'all,
like how you lose the locker room though, how you
lose locker room with that? Play harder ter?

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Let me give you a different some more quotes from there.
Right at fifty five years old, I could have.

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
Done better than that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
That's from there as well. Now you're talking crazy, he said,
Or he'll change the starting lineup.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
Those guys are negative thirty one, negative thirty eight, negative
thirty four, negative twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
You've got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
We'll changed the change his lineup, that's what he said.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
So put somebody I've been said that you playing a
guy off the bench, who's been who's been your best
player since he got there?

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Rust started last night. He had a great game. What
was his plus? Probably only one one? No, it's negative
thirty four. He had the bad one last night. He
was a niggave thirty four last night.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
I think they just got right off the floor.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
It was. It was a pure domination, like there was nobody.
There was nobody who played well. No bonus was negative
thirty eight, Persons true or never negative fourteen, Russ negative
thirty four, the ros In negative thirty one, Schroder negative twenty.
The only ones was guys off the bench and they

(01:39:05):
were still negative. But it was it wasn't Atlanta. Was
that just a bad Gamerosan had four points? There was
in Atlanta and they beat it, and Atlanta beat them.
There wasn't Atlanta. No, they was in sack. That was insane.
That was insack. That's why he was really mad. You

(01:39:26):
can't get like that. Wow, I'm going to tell you
what this really is. I could see it from both sides.
One the day before, you're looking on the fucking screen
and you see, oh, yeah, Sacramento King's about to have
a fire sail. What does that do to a locker room? Yeah,

(01:39:49):
you signed up for this, correct, But it's a grown man.
We've seen this shit in the NBA. You're sitting here
telling me you're gonna feel great about going in the
next day, because if you're having these conversations, maybe it's
a little different and you're trying to protect yourself a
little bit because you you ain't in trade. You get hurt, right,

(01:40:13):
But my thing is in that aspect, the next game
is gonna tell it all. You're gonna tell if he
lost the locker room or he galvanized the locker room,
they do the same thing, curtain call, he's out of there.
I don't know. I think he stays. You think so
everybody else gone?

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
Isn't a coach the easiest thing to always remove?

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
I think they already said they're gonna get rid of
everybody and just build around Murray de mar de Roza
had four points. Everybody must go. When the last time
that Martin Rose had four points?

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Never there's a good question in the chat about tomorrow,
by the way, but we'll get to that after they
do on their own pick.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
They do on their own pick.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
If I'm sacked for sure, if I can get two
first round picks this year, shit.

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
I'm blowing up my whole team. Zach Levine will get
you something, shit, Bonus will get you something. Somebody can
use Russ. I think they keep ross No for as
Dennis ross Man. Nobody ain't taking that money for Dennis.
How much money Dennis get that much money?

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Three years, forty eight million? Thenni's got a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
It's worth it. Though, Well Dennis is worth that money, Okay,
but who's going to pick that up? They played Dennis
had zero points in the last two games.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Now, I hear you, but I'm saying, like, what do
you punis plays?

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Well? No, I like Dinners.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
This is my guy. But what I'm telling you is
nobody's taking that. So you take that head nine yesterday,
Zach Levin. Somebody can use him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Dennis.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
There's the guys who needs a point guard. Somebody can
use Russ the way he plays on both ends. The
rose in is a bucket, so a veteran team can
use him. Somebody can use the bonus. The bonus is
a certified big man, you know, boss, They can use
him today. Bonus money's not guaranteed, by the way, for
only about thirty three of it's guaranteed, so it's really

(01:42:05):
probably till next year.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Dennis, Yeah, he got a two years.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
No, he got a three year, but only thirty three
of it's guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Out of the two years guaranteed thirty years team option.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
No, it's not even a team option. Only thirty three
of it's guaranteed. It's a flat contract. Only thirty three
of the forty five is guaranteed. I don't think he's
a bad contract, though. I think someone would take him.
That's my point.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
I like Dennis. I know Detroit to taking him back.

Speaker 4 (01:42:26):
I think that's a good player.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Detroit to take him back in a heart beat, heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
I just don't know what the fus going on. Sack
is cursed. That team has been bad since two thousand
and two.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
They had one good year when Dearon Fox and SI
Bonus showed out, but they've been bad since then.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
And that's the thing, bro Monk, we ain't talking about
Somebody can use him.

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
He's back.

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
Day.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Know he's hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
I guarantee he's played. He may he maybe took No.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
He's played. Yeah, he just didn't play last night. Yeah,
or Lavine didn't play last night. I'm going to tell
you this right now. There's really been nothing positive to
come out of Sacramento in the years.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
In't like the Beam.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
That one year it was positive. Other than that, everyone
that has left Sacramento has there been anything positive? No,
that's bad.

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
No disrespect to Sacramento, a bonus to Indy, no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
He just left Indy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Someone had a good question, is the mar gonna be
the first player to score twenty five thousand points and
not make the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
I said, fuck, the Mar's making the Hall of.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Fame, making the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 5 (01:43:42):
How men?

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
All stars? He got?

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
He's got at least five?

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
Let me see they said, they said the Kings appear, dookie.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
He's a six time also, two time second team All NBA,
one time third team. That's that's fame resumes a Hall
of Famer.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
It's not a conversation for me, but I appreciate Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
They shouldn't be that bad, but they are what they are.
They are.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Hey, the Sacramento Kings suck right now.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
Some bad basketball get better. We were thinking the Portland
and actually I said Portland could be okay. I definitely
thought Portland could be okay. And they are.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
You thought they were a team to look out for.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
They were definitely a team to look out for. But uh,
get young and bring in culture. I agree, that's your
best bet. Get some first round picks, get rid of
all these guys. Not get rid of, but like trade
all these guys. What you tried didn't work. He talking

(01:44:45):
about we twelve games and you twelve games. But ship
looks nasty, nasty work.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
Sim Braun over there and gets exactly vie sim Bron
to fact Bron and watch watch some two young guys.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
He said, bring Broun, Oh, Bron Broun, Christian.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Broun, Christian Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
Isn't it Bron?

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
It's brown?

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Is it brown? Is it brown?

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
I'm pretty sure, Chack Greig, I'm pretty sure it's Christan Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
I thought it was Christian Brown. Bro I thought you
said sending Brown to Sacramento Christian Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
Yeah, this pronounce Christian Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
Oh yeah, well Brown, send him and Watson over there
for Zach because he's just signed an extension.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
So the money, the money, you just you lose, that's
not enough for you lose defensive defensively, you lose something.
But you get rid of Brown though, but you still
got defenders there.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
No, but you need picks. It's not enough for a
Sacramento for zactly Vine. You need to get at least
one first round pick.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
I don't know if you're gonna get there, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:45:46):
You might be right, but I feel like you need
no first round.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
I know if you gonna get out there, buddy, or
send Tim Hardaway or or somebody. Yeah, if you want
to keep your defenders to Hollaway.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
I am just sure.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
Peyton Watson is is pretty key for their defense and
what they do. Good guy, good role guy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
I think I think I don't think the never need
to do a thing, though.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
I don't think I don't think they don't think they
do either.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
But stay put.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
You know, if Yo did Yokish Levine there, the libs
all over that damn place you talk about Aaron Gordon
Levine on the same team. We saw that dunk contest.
Oh my god, Lord have mercy and should have won
one of them.

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You guys want to talk about actually you want to
talk on the first.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
Yeah, Devin Booker's really get a basketball y'ah. We gotta
start putting respect throw his name again.

Speaker 4 (01:47:01):
Do they make the top six in the Eat West?
They've been hooping. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Does the Phoenix Suns make it top six?

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
Warriors don't look great, Clippers don't look great. Houston still
got point guard issues. They's still early, but early.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
They got a chance early, but.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
They got a chance to be top six if they
can get one of them point guards.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
They don't have a point guard either.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
If they can get one of them point guards like that.
We were just talking about that. We were just talking
about it makes them a whole lot better.

Speaker 4 (01:47:36):
Wasn't this episode so peaceful without c V? Yeah's a
shipping the stir.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
He stirs the pot. We need that though. We need
that sometimes Thista be like.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
Really, Ray, why don't you see the name.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
Name drop?

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
I ain't gonna say the name Charlie. What's the name?

Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Jaylen rust is hurt?

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
Yeah, we got that a little bit. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
I mean he's an ankle spread.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
He did leave on crutches.

Speaker 4 (01:48:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
I mean he'll be back in like three four weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
I would assume like it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
I have a like, like we talked about, I have
a bigger problem with the Knicks identity more than Jayalen
being out for three to four weeks, however long he's.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Out, And that's the problem. You need Jalen to be
in there so you can figure out the identity because
that when you have somebody as out and then again
guys start getting comfortable and then you gotta plug a
ball dominant guy like Jalen back in. You got to
figure out that identity again. So if you have an.

Speaker 4 (01:48:43):
Identity problems right now, and then your best player goes out,
but then you got to add him back in there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
It can get work, It can get real spooky. You
can get real spooky.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
I had a thought the Knicks have a legitimate second
shot creator.

Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
Yeah, Carl, who is it?

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
Carl? I mean, he's one of them. But if you
going with the Guards, I think Michel can get his
own shot. And I know Jordan Clarkson can. It's just
talk because Clarkson can. Sure he's a bucket. Mcklen o
g been balling.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Though they have, but like, is michil really like give
him the isolation if Jalen doesn't have it, Most teams
do have a second one of that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
Guess what, We're gonna have time to talk about it
because Dalen Breuston is out for a while. Yeah, we're
gonna see. Now we're about to find out. We're about
to find out what you just the question just asked.
We have an answer soon, ye Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Michael averaged twenty two on the playoff team, So I
know what I'm saying saying.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
Brooklyn was more more.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
In the offense though, right like when he when he
went off in Brooklyn, I feel like that was through motion,
that was through off of plays.

Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
Well, they featured him. He was cooking in Brooklyn and
he shouldn't like they was like talking about to be
an All Star like they featured him, like the offense
was running through him. So and see if that happens
here in New York. Checked out with Cat on the court.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
I don't like Cat as your second best player. That's
basically what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
I really don't.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
I don't know if Cat as your second best player
get you over the hump bees you but got him.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
Pretty damn close. Last year he didn't get him pretty
damn close. This might be the first year they can
really get there. But they gotta figure this ship out
that team up there in the What is the Midwest Detroit, Michigan, Midwest?

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
No, I think mid Midwest.

Speaker 4 (01:50:40):
No, it's Indiana and no, that's not midwest.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
Detroit considered Midwest. I don't think what is Detroit considered
as I thought it was Midwest, but I don't think
it's Midwest. It was very it was fun as hell
playing with Russ and Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
See, yes it is considered part of the midwest Midwest.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
So Detroit is a problem. If Detroit get another ball handler.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
They need another shot creator for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
They got to get another shot creator for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
I don't think they're ready. I'm not ready. That's wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
I don't think they're good enough without another shot creator
in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
Ray. The playoffs basketball is different than regular season basketball.
They was good last year, Bro, for sure, But I
think Dennis for them and you need one more. Yeah,
and and Beasley. Yes, they don't have either of that
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
What is Beasley going what he got going on? He's
still upending the investigation.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
No team, that's just no t.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
Hey, Chad just asked you guys a question, who's the
most underrated guard you've played against?

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
I said it already. I don't know if you first
time in the chat.

Speaker 4 (01:51:44):
That's Chad, Chad.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
I said this already.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
That's our team member chat.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
I'm saying telling Chad, I said this already, said I
said Andre Miller.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Andre Miller's cold.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
He was one of the most.

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
Underrated guards that I played against. Andre Miller's Do.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
You think if anybody's involved that's a good question. Not
fuck Lebron, but do you think if anybody gets involved
in the basketball fan they get removed from there?

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
In gambling, that's involved in the gambling.

Speaker 4 (01:52:09):
I think you shout out and see I think you
came remove here Andrew South Carolina in the building, appreciate
you showing his love. Yeah, Bes, he lost to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Times Can Gold. That is it playing with Luca. Motherfuck.
It's just different. So all you can really say, bro,
the ship I used to see the dude practice was
more insane in the game though. What he did the
ship he was doing practice was just fucking silly. He's
just fucking around. But then I'll never forget that ship
against the Knicks. We came back from like twelve points

(01:52:42):
with a minu and something left. Motherfucker missed the free throw,
got a ball back and hit up floater and we
ended up winning overtime. And then that ship he did
the Phoenix game seven. Oh my god, it was diabolical
out there.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
It's definitely spooky daydon Ivy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
He's still over there.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
He is, But do you think he what is he
that we haven't seen him?

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Is he not healthy? No?

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
I think he's coming. I think he'll he's coming back.
He'll be back in the next couple of months or so.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:53:13):
What did he hurt?

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
It was a major injury. It was a major injury,
a cl But was it an end of the year. No,
it was beginning of the year. Last year, it's like
mid year. Theodo KI average team game thirty. Let's see
Jaden the battery pack in my back, go get it
the back.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Fuck it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
Oh he had an arth Oh No, he had an
arthoscopic procedure done recently. He's missing another four He should
be probably back in December. It looks like he had Yeah,
he had right knee surgery, so I think he towards
a cl.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
All I'm saying my last game in the league, I
had twenty three thirteen and twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
The basketball behind it proves it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Nice. Twenty three thirteen to twelve. Hall at me. That's
all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:54:00):
How fun is being the host?

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
It's cool. These guys give me an opportunity to rock
over with them, So I'm blessed. Man I get roasted
a lot, but ship it is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
What it is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:08):
Part of territory.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
That part of the territory. We got to somebody got
to get roasted. Man Hey, put it in What game
do y'all want us to do next week? On playback?
Make sure y'all go we're.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
Watching Joker who they play? I don't know we're watching
a Joker game.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
For sure, I watch BRO. But again, y'all want us
to watch next week, We're gonna pull up. Y'all can
watch it with us on playback. Makes you join, join
the Discord. Shout out the Oasis. We appreciate the love.
Uh Coach Williams. We know you got your knee injury
right now, get better, my guy. We love you to
death and show coach love you, love you? And what

(01:54:49):
else we got any more? Shout out? Shout out the
TV Hall of Famer. Yea, I'm doing the USC game tomorrow.
Uh uh, shout out the floor in South Carolina appreciation Florence.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
Our best game is probably seventy sixers versus the Bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Seventy six ers Bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
Some other games are like, there's some nasty games. The
Wars versus the Heat. It's not the Cavilers versus the
Rockets can work.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
Potentially that might be.

Speaker 4 (01:55:20):
Okay versus Trailblazers, might be all right match.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Yeah, it's not that the Wolves Nuggets on Saturday. We
ain't doing shit on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
We off Bucks in the calves are on Monday? Who
Bucks in the calves are on Monday, but there's not
really great games this week.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
We might do the Sixers game, then Sixers and Bucks.
Might do Sixers and Bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
Yeah, that's probably on the Thursday, Sixers and Bucks. This
might be the game we look at, but the games
aren't that promising this week.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
But listen, we appreciate the love. Thank you for everybody
tuning in.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
We are getting bigger and better and we're just gonna
keep bringing y'all great content. Next week, we're gonna do
picks every day.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
We're gonna help, We're gonna make a slip together as
a group, and we are gonna and some bread. How
about that. Everybody love money, right, We're gonna make some
money wins. I'm cold with it, be cold with it.
He get it done. So next week, make sure y'all
tuned in early. We're gonna do it throughout the show.
We're gonna have picks. We're gonna have numbers that we

(01:56:15):
want to more under all that ship. You can't really
do all that ship here in Texas because they ain't
got with the time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
But y'all gotta y'all gotta see field tomorrow and playback facts.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
We'll love tomorrow and play back. We love y'all to death.
See y'all on Monday, same time, eleventh Central to one
twelve o'clock Eastern to two o'clock Eastern. That is, to
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Speaker 4 (01:56:39):
Peace,

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