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The guys jump into a fresh episode of To the Baha, opening with a look at NBA shoe sales before celebrating the red-hot Pistons, who have won 10 straight. They break down the real contenders in the East and debate this year’s top MIP candidates. The conversation heats up with talk of Donovan Mitchell as a true No. 1 option, the Thunder going 14–1 without JDub, and OKC blowing teams out with ease. The guys dive into the Raptors and Brandon Ingram’s surge, rank the top combo guards, discuss Cooper’s spot in the new draft class, evaluate Clippers impact players, and debate whether today’s center position is underpowered.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yo, we're back. It's been a long morning already. Be
honest with y'all, it's been a long morning. I'll tell
y'all a little bit. But first I got an intro.
The two national champs in the building, both tar Heels
shot out to North Carolina, Tar Hill Blue. We got
Raymond Felton in the building.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yo, about the deal deal.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
You got the shades back, Yeah, the shaves shades back.
He's rocking Russ's brand onto the gift.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's what's up. That's what's up. Adam turned off the
speaker now because there's a more music. We got feel
in the building, feels repping into the ball hall merch.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
What's good? Shout out to the bye higher.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
What's up y'all? How we live and how we living?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh man, I'm good baby. Good day to be alive. Man,
it's other day to be alive. I woke up this morning.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's a great mentality to have. So everybody knows. I'll
be running around, got my backpack and all the assets,
all the graphics. It's one of those mornings.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
High up.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Just drove a buck drove about tw and a half hours.
But it's all good. We in the building. We started
five minutes late. My apologies for that, y'all. How are
we feeling?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
It was?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I thought it was a pretty good damn hoops yesterday good.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Solid, but it was solid bump yesterday it was. I
had a little injury from Giannis though.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Tough.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, that was tough. We're gonna talk.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I hate to see him go out too.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, we're gonna talk. That was too growing great, it's nasty, right,
That one's tricky.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
That's tricky.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
That was always tricky. But listen, let's get into it.
We talked about sneaker sales yesterday, right, I got a
graphic for y'all. Adam, you want to putup the graphic.
It's nasty. Stephan didn't sell ship. This is on stock
X only. What is the one that's josh as Jaw
Lamellos meo.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I told you Lamelos be selling.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Lamellow can sell j T's a little up there. Obviously
Kobe's up there. I feel like Kobe doesn't have the
same selection anymore. Obviously, Kobe KD. I'm surprised Lebron trades
super well on stock X. I didn't know that Lucas does.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
D H.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Who's that. Who's that very left?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Stephan who Stephan Sabrina I and Escu.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Hey, hey people, I thought people were Sabrinas.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I think hoopers wear Sabrinos like see see Josh it No,
Josh crazy, It's not even close. I think that's forty
thousand stupid. But this is just on stock, so we
don't know how they're selling stores. But yeah, that was
kind of our sneaker conversation. Yeah, I feel like LaMelo's
are Obviously.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Everything looks right to me. I expected LaMelo's to be there.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Kawhi Leonard is nasty. That looks right, though. I didn't
expect JT to be that high.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Jordan.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
But do you guys find JC has nice shoes?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, the ones that got out there. I like that
once he got out.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
There today, I mean the newest one, right, I didn't
like his first ones. But shout out to everybody that's
selling shoes. Man, we can take down the graphic. By
the way, I wonder where is now? Yeah, that's a
good question. At least all colors. I think last week
or this I.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Was sold out. Bro. I went online to see you
want to get a pair? I was gonna get the
black ones.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
They also I want to get one for my nephew,
but he doesn't even sell kids size.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
He got a fan base though, his fan base is crazy.
He got Canada one Canada, and I bet you everybody
in Oklahoma City got his shoe.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Now you talk about fan base, No, no, they like
the best fans, almost the best fans in the world.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you slept On slept On.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I would say more more so than anything though, Like
he's just he's just got like they use the word
aura like a lot of people like you know why
he has all that.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Really got like he got like rockstar status.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
He kind of reminds me a little bit of Magic's
or like what I felt of Magic's aura, that kind
of that playboy lifestyle. But shelu to Shay. I know
she is obviously doing this thing in the NBA, which
will we will talk about. We got to give a
big shout to Kurt. I don't know if Kurt's watching.
It's Kurt's birthday, you old as hell.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Bro shout out to the higher up.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Since the higher up birthday today, Chat to Kirk, everybody.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Kurt, Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Everybody show some love to Kurt. If you see him
in the chat, just say happy birthday. It's crazy. He's
h Adams in the chat sat the kb uh Yeah man.
I hope Kurt enjoys it. He's in New York for business,
but he got to spend some time with his family.
So shout out to you, Kurt. Happy birthday, brother, Kurt Man.
We're gonna start with his vicious dunk. I'm sure you
guys saw it. Let's put it dunk from from last night.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Hey, hey, you need it. They need a drug test.
This man he different? How old is he? Thirty eight?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, he's hooping.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
He roll man.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Hear me thirty one and fifteen last night, go talk
with the Pistons. He's uh, he's twenty two.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
No, he's a baby, bro.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
This man is twenty two and he's a grown man,
grown man. No, he's a grown man. He's a grown man.
I've been watching the play season. He's a grow man.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
It hasn't signed the extension, correct.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I think his extension year is this year.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, he turned it down.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Turned it down, that's right, him and him and Jayden.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, they turned it down. His extension just went up.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I mean, I don't think it went up. What I
think he was always getting that bag. No, he's getting more,
get more, I think. Okay, let me rephrase that he
was going to get a MAX from another team, but
because he's getting the MAX from Detroit is more exactly. Yes,
you're right, you're right. Yeah, let me say that.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Hey, right, not the contract.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, just like Charlie, I'm numbers guy.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, we know that contracts. His money is going up.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
So let's before we get this it's complete to him.
The Pistons have won ten games in a row. That's
the first time since two thousand and seven and eight.
I want to say that's still a Chauncey led team.
That was Chauncey Rip Tayshawn. Chauncey might have just been
traded to AI, but you know, around that era, it's
been a long time time for success with Detroit seventeen years.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Or shout out the Oasis. By the way, I appreciate
the love, but let's go and put this out there.
Detroit reminds me they have like a okayc in the
East type of feel to me right now, for the
sole purpose of I feel like these guys just genuinely
love being together. I think they enjoy playing with each other.

(06:25):
They enjoy having the Detroit mindset as far as like
we're gonna fight you, You're gonna have to fight us
every single night. They feel like they could beat the
shit out of anybody, right. They feel like they con
compete with anybody. You heard Kaye talk about on the
little boardroom thing that they did that. You know, he
feels like him and Jade and Ivy just haven't had

(06:48):
time to mesh, you know what I'm saying now. They
feel like Kay's taking the next step. You know, he said,
the way they tick, the way they approach the game,
he feels like they could take that next step.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
They're scary.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
But I wanted to ask you guys, if they decide
to keep them two together, be a nice little backcourt.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's I want to ask you guys. Have you guys
seen enough from Jaden or is there still a wild
card for you because I haven't seen that much. I
haven't seen.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
But he was hooping before he got hurt. He was
low key. He was low key playing better than Cave
before he got hurt. Because that and then he got hurt,
and then Kve was like he just he just floored
that I'm gonna let them know this is my team. Yeah,
I'm that guy. You know, Jayda gonna be one, A,

(07:30):
one B, whatever you want to call it. But you
are number two, Jayden, so you know when you come
back and the way this this monster is playing over
there at that five spot, my mess around be number
three and then your fucking bro, I'm gonna put this
out there. Bro, these dudes are scarier though they got
a good team. These dudes just not scared of nobody,

(07:52):
and they won't smoke with every single person that come
through that arena, like they've really bought into the Detroit mentality.
And when you got guys like Duran Stewart even read
like those are your three catalysts as far as like
setting the tone every single night, you know what you're
getting from them. And then you got a bona fide.

(08:15):
Go get a who we who we contemplate putting top
fifteen in the league as your as your point. Gotta
consider it.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Come on, bro, and Kris Lavert, people forget playing.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
He's not really even playing that much, not even playing,
but when yeah, who.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Is season he is balling Shelton Jenkins, Oh my.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Goodness, he ain't playing no games with nobody.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Now Detroit's doing their thing. I've watched probably I've watched
a couple of games. I've enjoyed watching them play. This
kind of reminds me of that young of the OKAC
team before they really took that.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Say from Dallas, he is from Dallas.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
This reminds me of Okay, see when probably in like
two thousand two, twenty twenty three, when they started really
making a scent playing together the Detroit team, it kind
of reminds me of that team that obviously Shaye kind
of is cad in that way. They got a bunch
of pieces. They are missing one piece tho. I think
we all agree with that, right, it's an ivy. Oh yeah,

(09:17):
So you guys don't even think they should make a move.
Do you think they just stick with Ivy?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think you gotta see see what it looked like.
You drafted the guy, so you got to see what
it looked like. He's being injured, so give him a chance.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Super physical team though they're very physical.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
And he played on the other end too.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, he sit down, Ivy, He sit down, passing lanes,
all types of He played defense too, So you all
got to take a look at that, bro. When I
said that with the Schroeder thing, I I forgot to
think about the Ivy was there. So you kind of
see like, all right, no, we need to let because
it's hard to let Ivy flourish if you know what

(09:53):
you're gonna get from Schroeder. You see what I'm saying.
So now that you got Ivy, got Sasso too. Yeah
for looking hoop too now. And then it's Jinkins, dude.
I mean he just came after what works, just cooking.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
And they haven't even had a star in am a little bit.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Him and Ryan Rollins worked out the summer together, the
whole summer and look at them both. Look at both
of them.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
A Sar, Jayden, Jaalen and Cade were a solid core.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Where you how far you see them going.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Jayalen, Jalen Durn.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Jayden, Ivy in the East, Yeah goes as far as anybody.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
They go all the way to the Promise Lane.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I think they I think they can make the finals.
I think they listen. I don't know if you guys
watched the next game yesterday, the nick still like I didn't,
I know they're missing Jalen Bronson out the CV in
the chat, what's JV saying? Oh my good, PETI CV,
I'm tripping, bro. What's up, Bro? Dominican Hall of Famer?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Do you think they can go to East Cara finals? Easy? Easy?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Like, not like they will easily? But that's why who
can stop them?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
You mean who can stop them? Like?

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Who do you have saying that they're definitely better than them?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I don't think they win easy.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I'm not saying they would win easy, but I said
there's easily a role where they make it there.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
No, for sure, I think they definitely capable of getting there.
They like the best team, they led the best right now.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
They're capable, is my point. They're one hundred percent capable,
not easy, it's not the right word. They're one hundred capable.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Who do you think the best of me? The East?

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Right now? They're playing like the best team. Why is
Rob calling me when we know I believe they're the
best team right now? I agree with Marcus though, shout
out the Marcus and the chat. I think it's wide open.
Though I can't I say that the best team because they're
playing the best, But I can't be like, oh fuck,

(11:53):
I'm so confident in the Detroit Pistons. You see what
I'm saying, Like I would still young, they still young
at shit.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
To me, they feel like the team that has the
identity the most. And I like the way they match up.
I like Kid as a bigger point guard. You're facing
Jail and you're facing Tyree's Maxie, You're facing Darius Garland. Like,
I think that's a complete mismatch. I know they're probably
gonna switch somebody else, but cross matchups aurt of thing.
I think Jalen Durank can hang with anybody, just defensively

(12:28):
a star as a lockdown defender. If Jayden comes back,
that's the bucket getter as well. I just like the
pieces they have.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I'm gonna be honest, I do. I love the pieces
they have. I think they have a team to do it.
There's just way more battle tested teams than they are,
like Boston. Like I said, Boston's a piece away in
my opinion for being back, so where we're really considering them,

(12:55):
we all think if Milwaukee gets another piece, they could
be right there. Fucking I know it's crazy to fucking
say Toronto is not a bad basketball. Toronto is not
a bad basketball, and they they have a lot of players. Now,

(13:20):
this is the biggest thing with Toronto is their bench.
You never know what you're gonna get from there. But
they starting five can compete with anybody.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
There. Starting five can compete with anybody.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, soul, But I think I think this seems better
than Toronto.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
They are definitely better than them right now.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
And we're not talking about Cleveland or in the Knicks
right the Knicks is the team in Cleveland or the
team that I think I would give the slight edge
to them right now just from experience, but I would
say this home court advantage matters. If they get that

(14:02):
and you got to go through Detroit, I'm it's it'd
be a lot harder.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Can we talk about that. I feel like there's been
a lot more games taking on the road recently than
there used to be in the past.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
In the playoffs, well, you know, once you win on
the road, you know you got a great, great chance
of winning the series. Everybody wants to get that one
game on the road. If you could get that, you
take care, Like THEO just saying, you really want home
court advantage. So if you that team that's not in
that position, if you could still you a win in
somebody else building and you could take over that home

(14:35):
court advantage. You feel like you got a chance to
win this series. Now, great teams ain't losing on the road.
In my opinion, we seem both like we've seen so
many you rarely saw OK lose at home.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
They lost the first game to the Pacers. They lost
a game to Denver like I also used.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
To you rarely see, and they guess what they had
to go do. They had to go get They had
to go get one in Indiana.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
And they didn't lose it home again, but they might
drop one.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
But that's my point to you guys, And I feel
like last playoffs we saw a lot.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Of that happens all the time. You always would always
drop on the road.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
And he took two from New York on the road.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Like that said great teams.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
No, But I'm saying in general, we saw a lot
more games taken on the road.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Once it was clear. In my opinion, Indiana was better
than New York last year? Is it am I wrong
for saying that?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I think if Ty had that crazy shot, we might
be having a different conversation. That's just my opinion.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Indiana was a they were hot I mean they they
played the best basketball damn there of anybody.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
They ran, they beat the Knicks, they beat Did they
beat Boston? No, they didn't play Boston last year. The
Knicks beat Boston. They played US Built to Ask Milwaukee,
they beat Cleveland, they beat Belt.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
The Ass to Cleveland, and then Belt the Ass in
New York. I'm sound like that. I think they're closest.
Did they go seven games other than the finals?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
This way right?

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I don't think they win seven games other than the finals?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, okay, No, they went okay, see no Indiana Indiana
with four to two against the Necks, and then they
Built to Ask Cavaliers and they obviously for one.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
That seemed like the best team in the East last year.
To me ship them boys was hooping. But I say this,
I am a I'm starting to believe in the Pistons
for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I started.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I think they are next year's dominant force. But we
tripping Philly. Something to reckon with, yeah, phil Philly. Something
to reckon that, don't get don't you can't get it twisted, Philly.
You're gonna have to beat Philly. Tyre's Maxie and he

(17:06):
is taking this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I like how thing matches up Tres MAXI huh. I
like how Detroit matches up with.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Agreed they had.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
And guess who else waking up? You give him a
shout out, man, because he needed because he's been he's been,
you know, forgotten about over the last four or five years.
Andre Drummer, he's playing well. Andre Drumming is what was
a rebound king. Now he's playing well, and that man
is starting to get when he's getting those minutes, he's
starting to get over fourteen fifteen rebounds in these games.

(17:38):
He's starting. Yeah, what about seventeen eighteen rebounds? Like nineteen
rebounds last night? Yeah, you're like twelve nineteen last night.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
He's crazy, bro, Andre Drummond is one of the best
rebounders to ever play.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
You gotta start shooting threes though.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Eighteen rebounds yeah one though I saw him hit.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
One last night. Bro. He shoots hell of threes.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Andre is what is now with the Pistons. I do
think that's fair, man. I don't think Andre when he
was younger had the right team around him. But that's
just me.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Shout out to yukon the CV squad let me ask you, guys,
this Bil sent me. This is Jalen the MVP. M
I P sorry, he went from eleven points to twenty points.
Jalen Duran most improved.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I sent you.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I sent you like a yeah, yeah you sent me.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
The names on the list are Josh Giddy, Josh. I
don't think he's most improved though, because I'm explaining why in.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
The season was doing it.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, doing good thirty games, he's
doing it all year and AJ Mitchell and Jalen Durant.
So Jalen Duran run from UH eleven points to twenty
one points. Rebounding is around the same. Austin Reeves is
a candidate, A j Mitchell and obviously Josh Giddy.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
That's the reason really been doing much since Luke has.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Been Yeah, I actually didn't notice that.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I told you
what was gonna happen with Luke k bet. I'm gonna
be right with you.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah. Man, he's still averaging thirty guys, No is.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
He still averaging thirty?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Number going down?

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
He had been like that forty He's still averaging Thirty's
twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Sorry, hey, you guys are when I said it was
twenty nine, it's not thirty. You said a thirty. Twenty
eight is not there. He's cooking.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
I think I agree with that. Twenty eight is not thirty.
There's a whole lot better. When I was seeing him
averaging thirty four, I was.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Like, Saturday, he had twenty four.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
That's notable.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
That's cooking.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Is not a one. No, it's not a one.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
He's a I give him that. He could be a two.
He's not a one though. That was gonna die off.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I don't know if he's even a two in my head,
but I'm not going to stay here.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Attacks can play. He's too I've been watching. I've been
watching him. He solid just look how he plays. Pay
attention to how.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
He who for sure, the way his pace.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
If he if he's a guy that looks different every
single game, I will give you that his pace.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
It he plays his own pace.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, I don't know. When I think of two's, I
think a kai think of Clay.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I understand, but you would you.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's why, that's why it's tough for me to put
him in there.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
But because you ain't seen it yet, I love his pace,
the way he plays the game. But I would give
Josh Getty most improved player right now.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's motherfucker bro Guys, Jalen Johnson's up in that conversation.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
There's a lot of names right now.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
A lot of people have come over to a hoop
this year, but Josh Kitty did it for thirty games.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
And listen, you ain't gonna skip over Larry Market either.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Lauri Market. He's not most improved though he's I think.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I already got it. Has he got it before his
first Yeah? You improved, oh ship, you improved the game
his first year.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Can you imagine you did it twice?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
What does he say you have like thirty something?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I'll double check, but it's got to be because he's
had a couple of forty, like forty five fifty point games.
He's averaging thirty one. Also, he's only averaging six boards,
though I don't care he putting that ball in. I agree,
but I just expect a little bit more. On the
side Laurie's only averaging six boards. I expect a little
bit more from there.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Bro. George is balling, ye see, I think George is
getting to the Baha too. I gotta give it. I'm
gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
We not. We did not think the Bulls were gonna
be even remotely good. And it's because of Giddy that
I just say it.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
That they did.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
He looking at Kobe, like, what do you do with Kobe?
He came in, Ball said he cooked, But.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Kobe's been cooking for the last like twelve months.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
He's no, but Kobe just got back.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
No. I'm talking about like when he's been on the court, Kobe, Kobe,
he's been cooking. Shout out to Kobe. Yeah, I don't
know the bull The Bulls to me are an interesting What.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Are the bulls like with Anthony Davis? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
You have to give him a decent amount for him,
don't you.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I like lu he spaced that floor. Man, he had
a big three last name to put the game away.
I'm gonna be real with you. I like, when you're
when you're a coach, when you're when you're an organization,
what do you do?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Like? You know, this team ain't winning a championship? So
what is it really about?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Development?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Do you fucking developed? Though? Yeah? But I don't think
they've development is the developmental process?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Who have they developed in their system. Only assume how
do you ever say his name?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
But how do you know if you're ever how do
you know you're ever able to compete at that level?
If you never strive to get there, you never make
a move to try to make to make that next.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
But I think they before they had Zach, that was
in the development phase. Oh, I don't, I don't. I
don't hate that. They gotta get zigned for Kobe. You
need more Zion than just coked Kobe.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Know what's his name? Patrick Williams, cargo style PIECEA and
Zion does not sound good to me?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Wow, Chicago Pizzas fired though I haven't had that ship
in a minute, But that's just fire, I would say,
though they have. They went through the Zach Levine and damar,
they just got out of it.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
It's more who's more important? Dran uh when you talk
about most improved player? We talked about all three of those.
Who's most important?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Giddy?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Oh, Jaylen Johnson? Though Jayles Johnson most important right now?
Because tre Young Giddy is way more important. They lost
is way more important.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Chat what y'all think? And Giddy Duran or Mitchell? Mitchell
is hooping.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm rolling with Ray, Bro. I think I think Jalen
Johnson is more important. Why I feel like he's just
more important?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
You gotta give me a reason though I.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Haven't watched enough. I haven't watched enough games. But I
watched the Bulls without Giddy and they didn't look too different.
Obviously Giddy does all lost for sure, but they just.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Went in there and beat fucking Denver. Yeah, they just
went in there and beat Denver last night. I don't
know Giddy was controlling that whole ship and was not
on the back. Bet they were not. You beat them
straight up. Let's roll the ball out, Let's bump.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Probably right.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I just you know, the games I've watched the Bulls,
they just.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Do a lot of Giddy's been ultra consistent, Bro.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
They just do a lot of handoffs. So like for me,
it's just been like I didn't the games I watched,
I didn't see too much from getting.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
You a handoffs? You hate handoffs? What is what did
the Warriors do they do the.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Bunch I was saying, I didn't see Giddy be that
impact on the games I watched. Oh, I see That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
What's the averaging right now.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, he's hooping.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
His averages are crazy, averaging the trip.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
He's he's almost out a triple do.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
He's not averaging yet, but he's close. He got to
be close, Josh Giddy. Yeah, he gotta be close to it.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
He's twenty two, ten and nine. He's hooping All Star.
He's a hostar Jalen Johnson is twenty two and ten
and seven.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Somebody's not making it. He's making it in the playoffs.
So you got Tyree's Maxie.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
He's in there.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Jaylen Bronson gotta come back from an injury, right, you
got that's crazy when he's saying that he has to
come back from the injury. The way these guys are playing,
if he could make from the injury, we may not
get nobody from the Knicks. No, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I mean, just what you get called because he's a
big Nah, you don't have to, j you don't have to.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
So is it the reserves? The reserves have to They're
just I don't even know what this new format is.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Remember they're gonna pick in car will make it off,
make it off an international strength off the strengthies international.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
He deserves it.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
When you don't know about that this year, Giddy he's
playing all right.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
It's so Will Giddy facts the world. Yeah, regardless, Giddy hooping,
Tyrese hooping. Donovan is fucking man child. I fucking told
you to stop playing with this man. Did you see
Donovan last night? Did you say he's not a number
one again?

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I swear all right, we'll talk about it in June.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Nothing I said.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
It's the playoff guys.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
You guys can damn no, no, no, number one.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
You can't sit here and tell me playoff basketball is
different than regular season basketball, and when he always in
the second round.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
But he's doing what he performs, though he performs. Now
if he's having trash numbers in the playoffs, we can
have a commisation.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Let me let me ask you guys a question.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I can't help his teammates ain't doing ship.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Let me ask you guys a question. My argument is
that I don't feel like he opens up the floor
as much as other superstars. Right, you don't have to
be my argument, but you understand that's my argument. Though, right,
I hear you.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
So?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Is it potentially because he doesn't open up the floor
like Lebron and his teamates struggle because they don't get
as easy as shots when you play with Lebron, stephf
Ord Jokic. Is that is that a possibility? On why
his teamate strugling the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Three guys that could possibly be the best in their
in their positions, and you compare him to that. Please
use mother names because you just say Lebron, Jokic and
fucking Steph.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Curry Vint is number one.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
He's up there with them, Kevin, they would do.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
But that's my definition of a true number one? Is
there that leade?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
So Kate Cunningham made the number one?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I think Kay Conham will what.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Different? What's the difference between Don Shay and Kate Cunningham.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
What's the difference? I think Shaye obviously the way his
place out, he draws a lot more foules, was very
may difficult to guard him. He's getting the line a
lot easier.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
You can't put Shade on one and Shae like is
jayleb breston on one?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I actually I actually thought about this, but let me
ask your first question. So Ray, I think a Shaye
gets the line a lot. I think that makes them
a lot different than both of those people, because getting
to the line in the playoffs is a big skill,
as you know, getting easy buckets, getting easy points. So
Shay's to me in a different class. And then on
the flip side with Kid, I think k just a
six eight. He's a six to eight point guard. He's

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a mismatch. Makes it a lot easier to get bucket.
Even's a six to two shooting guard.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Look up how many free what Shade ranked and free
throw was last year? I mean.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Where in the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
No, just in general five. He didn't let me know
what Shaye ranked and free throws last year?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Uh, free throws attempted. You're right the second.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Somebody told me, or you can look into the playoffs,
he didn't get that many calls. I don't think he
got that many in the in the playoffs. The average
damn near ten free throws in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
You're right. The stats don't lie. No, the stats don't lie.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
So you're talking about are you? Donovan Mitchell is a
number one? Somebody else has to come to the party
in the playoffs. If you if you go down his
track record of teams that he's been on, Utah name
their second best player, Joe Johnson.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Jesus Christ. Joe Johnson was on the way out. It
was on Witch Color.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, there wasn't even Joe wasn't even there, no getting
Gordon Harrod was out the year that was going to
the way it was when Don gets in.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
So who's their number two?

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Bog Bogie, bog bogan. He was the number two?

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Who the other the other bogey?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
The other bogey, I don't know who he.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Was had to be there too. They didn't have one.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Rudy, Rudy, Joe Johnson, Mike Conley.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Hotline, Blaine hot like Blaine. Come on, bro, that's what
I'm talking about. You gotta bring somebody. You need another guy?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Everybody? Everybody that you before it has to have another guy.
Just at the end of the day, Cay is going
to need another guy.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I just don't believe in It's as simple as that.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
You don't believe on it for some other reason that
I'm making.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Because I don't believe in this. In the six two
sh you thank you? What other killer has he had?
Everybody who was on you believe.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
J Dove's a killer?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
J Dove? I mean he had forty.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Okay, who do you see Donna's played with that you
feel like is a killer like that that we've.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Seen it one time from Garland one.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
There's nobody else that Donna's played with that has remotely
came close to dropping the forty ball that don He'll
take this night.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I got it. You need you need, you need that.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
And you think about the guys, You think about the
guys you know, you name Stiff he had Clay that
could give you six Jordan Poole fast in the playoffs.
Get Jordan Poole Clay. He had Kevin Durant. He had
Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
So Lebron James had who James twenty eighteen? What about
Jimmy Butler twenty.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
In twenty eighteen? They didn't. He lost, He didn't have one.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
But I'm saying he hasn't been to the conference finals. Field,
didn't win the championship, hasn't even been.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
To the conference final because he came to the party. Bro,
there's there's you see you you get exactly what we're
talking about. Ricky Rubio was the second Get the funk
out of here.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Bro, all right, stop And if Donovan Mitchell doesn't make
him this year with the East wide open. Are we
gonna have the same conversation?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
No, he still doesn't have a number. Do you believe
in the cast right now they have the same.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Isn't a twenty and ten guy? That's so?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
How are you blaming Donovan? If he's there's only so
much somebody can do. He can't win the bits by himself.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
There's only so.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Much he can do.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Tell me how much Evan Mobley ever play you the
entire time?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I don't believe in the six to two shooting guard
being your number one option.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
That's how tall ist fucking Steph Curry.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
He's the only exception to the rule tallest.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I about to stop you right now?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
How tall is that?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I'm aout stopping right now? Kyrie? How tall?

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Lebron? James aside him?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
He's still a number one right now? Without Lebron?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Will have to find out? What will have to find out?
If you have to find out, we're gonna have to
find out.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Is he a number one right now? Without Lebron?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
We'll have to find out?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
You were you were just harping about. You just said.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
We'll find out because we haven't seen Kyrie be the
number one on his championship team he was a number two.
I'm not saying he can't be, but we will have
to find out. I also think Donovan Mitchell is a
way is not as talented as not It's not as
good as basketb players Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
When the game was on the line, fucking Lebron James
gave the ball to fucking Kyrie.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Go get a bucket, bro.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I don't believe in Donovan Mitchell is a number one.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Like, I don't know if you can show me actual
proof where somebody else has joined him and played well.
I give you that you can't. It's been a proven
fact every single year. Joe Eagles in Jordan Clarson, boy,
if you don't get your ass ten ten, they played

(34:08):
very well.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
That Utah Jazz team was the Atlanta Hawks, and.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
You always said you don't believe in Atlanta Hall's team,
that Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Hall team, and I feel the same way about any
team that Donovan Mitchell on is those Utah Jazz.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
They say honk argue like a baby mama. So let
me ask you this. If Donovan Mitchell had Jalen Brown,
would you would.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Be the number one on that team? Not Donovan Mitchell
on my team in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Sorry, so Jaylen Brown would to uh to okay, see,
he would be the number.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Three, number two, number two. Why because I think.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
So Shane Donna averaging thirty. Yeah, right, there's no difference
in Shane. Don You know that, right, There's no difference
in Shade.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
There's no difference in Shade. There's an MVP. One of
them is not.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
You know why his team is winning.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Like I said, guys, I keep telling you I don't
believe in Donna's a number one? Is this six two
shooting guard? That's it? Like you guys are asking me,
like it comes sha six five made two?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Niggas there short? Your favorite player is short.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
He's the only exception.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Are you gonna say.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
You're to compare Donovan Mitchell?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
You said, you.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Said don Mitchell the same level.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
They both score.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Donovan Mitchell best player? Who was the best player on
that final team? You said, are you really doing this?
There is Garland is better than Eric Snow, Evan Mobs
better than Eric Snow.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
What the fuck are we doing?

Speaker 2 (35:36):
You ain't making no argument because you yelling.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
He's comparing Donovan Mitchell.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
You can't curry that much better than that. Donovan better than.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Because it's easier for him to get a shot off.
In my opinion, that's just my opinion. He's more crafty
than don Did you watch the game? He's definitely No,
I did not watch the game. He's more crafty than.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
It looks very It looks very.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Okay, So is don Does don have one of the
deepest bag in the league, Because we've argued this on
Run Your Race, don't have the.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Deepest bag in the league. Has the deepest back in
the league, And that's what.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Are the deepest bag?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
That's what we know. Who has the deepest bag in
the league. I don't know how you say somebody's working hard.
He's averaging thirty like he's averaging thirty. Okay, So you
want to compare Steph to don Do they have the
same gravity? Do they play the game the same way?
Do they open up the flour for their teammates the
same way?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Okay, So then why are you comparing the two?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
You said you because your statement was I don't believe
in six two guards.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I said, there's there's only anominally. Stephan is the only
anomally to ever to do it. Other thand Wade, but
d Wade sixty four, So there's only two anomalies. There's
Isaiah Thomas is a normal option in Steph Curry and
I don't think Donovan Mitchell is on their level.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Man, that's it's hard hard to beat first team last year.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, I think he was the first team.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Damn the beat.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
That's that's fucking insane to me that you think a
guy's not on the same guys and his but in
May at first team you think he's not on that level.
The disrespect of it is insane to me. You bro,
I swear you flip flop them. Okay, S's still gonna
be nice.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I don't think. I don't think they went wow. If
it's you, I think Devor beats them. I think never
beats them. If it's it's Don Insaud of Shaw. That
is you're gonna compare Steph and Curry to Donovan Mitchell
and AI. You're comparing those two.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I'm not comparing Steph to Donovan.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Okay, are you comparing AI to don? So? Then what
are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
That's why I stopped that argument. You're right, s g
A and don on the same level.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
How they are on the same level.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
You just you're just saying because one got an MVP
and in one.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Doesn't, that was your argument for mine more than Asian Wilson.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
I'm just well, both of those had m v ps,
one has one.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
What doesn't.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
The disrespect towards it is crazy?

Speaker 1 (38:09):
How's it disrespect?

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I just a thirty, It's cool. I'll get you.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
This is the regular season. Do if we not talk
that regular season is different than the playoffs? Donkin?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Who? What's numbers?

Speaker 4 (38:20):
For sure?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Who?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
What is Don's numbers?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Are you getting your buckets and how you open up
the floor for your teammates or two different things? Still,
and you know what is.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
First of all, stop acting like Shae's the biggest passer
in the world. I'm not saying the nigga don't pass.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
If you put them both on the island, Shaye is
more efficient than Dawn in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
That's gonna get Look at the numbers. Show me the numbers.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Let's look at it.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
What is Don's numbers in the playoffs? I want to
see them.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Let's look at the isostats.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Now we're talking about fucking isostats. These niggas ain't playing
one on one.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Bro Okay, so bro, so what do you do? What
do you what do you want from me? You said
I said that, So you're saying, say that Down has
to make tougher shots and you can live with that
because he's a six two guard and you can put
a bigger defender on him. I say that Shay is six'
five sixty, Six so it's you gu just can't put
put someone that's five inches taller than him or four
inches taller than him and makes it as difficult for

(39:14):
end to shootcause he's gonna be. Faster that's my, debate
is That don is a smaller. Guarden it you can
always put someone that's six seven and six eight and
it makes it very difficult for him and you're happy
to live with, that. Right it doesn't open up the
floor as. Much that's What i've said to you all the,
time and you just argue with me. Points i'm arguing
what we actually see on the. Court it's tough for
us somewhere six eight versus six.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Seven first of, all if we're gonna argue what we
see on the, Court i've seen it on the court
and it takes tougher.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Shots, okay that's. Cool then we're gonna agree to. Disagree
we're gonna agree to, diffagree and.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
We can move.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
On.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Cool let's move, forward all?

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Right so speaking Of SHAE okc is fourteen and. One,
ROSE i don't give a fuck what you, Say. Bro
you're always in the YouTube. Comments i'm not gonna listen
to you can telling me to stop Talking. Rose fuck fuck? Off,
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COMMENTS i need to. That you guys need to fire
me and Ship. ROSE i appreciate you you pulling, up
pull up every single day if you, want But i'm

(40:12):
not going. Anywhere might. Right it's your, Fault, Rose it's your, fault.
Bro all, right let's move, Forward, Rose, Bro, rose got you? Tight,
no he's just, annoying, Bro like shut the fuck, Up
like you're You're internet, Gangster, like shut the fuck. Up

(40:37):
Ricky tanner is a good one, Though Gi, RALPH i
appreciate Where Where's? Montana Where's montana when you need? Him
he's the one that came over with that shout out To.
Montana so, yo we're speaking about, okay see, Okay see
it's fourteen and one without J, Dupp so there's a
lot of. Conversations, obviously someone said eighteen and, one we
see seventy three and. Nine can they win seventy? Games,

(40:59):
well let's run the clips of yesday's. Game it was
done in the first, Quarter, bro they scored forty nine
points under The. Pelicans oh my.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
God but it's what you're supposed to. Do you're supposed
to beat teams that you're supposed to. Beat the beat.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
They scored forty nine in the first.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Quarter they're just a bona fide great. Team, Bro they're
a great. Team they don't play around they you know
what This it gives, me like great hope BECAUSE i.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
WORRIED i was.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
WORRIED i was worried about where the league was going
to be honest With, Bron, steph Kd Russ ship all
these guys on the way. Out who was gonna take
that next? Step these guys just love the. Hoop they
just go out there.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
And WHO i think you are losing star power THOUGH
i don't.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Think, bro we're gaining stars every. Day, no but like they,
like but we gotta get we gotta but you have
to get these. Time but we're hanging on To steph
And bron And kde for them so.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Long think about transitions, Though but think about transitions. THOUGH
i just give you guys. Perspective when we lost M,
j we GOT A i And. Shaq when we LOST
A i And, shack there Was. Kobe When kobe was
on his way, up there Was.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Broun.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Like it doesn't feel like there's someone at that stratosphere
that we're.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
GOOD i promise you we got we got great.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Players BUT i don't think they have the same brand
as those other. Guys they're still.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Going you say this all the, time they're still. Playing
they still got a lot they can. Do you Got
luca could not say it might be damn.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
There i'm more like off the court personas and like how,
LIKE i don't think those those guys that we named
are just as big as Like lebron off the, court
as big As kobe off the, Court shack getting the
court off the court like rock, stars, standards rock stars
like you gotta think that those guys are way.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Bigger that's the thing is getting. There but we're milk.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yok we're milking BRON kd And steph until they're. Gone
it's gonna be them when they're, gone somebody else is
gonna get. Crowned you gotta find somebody and you got
this is their time to pick.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Even Wemby wenby for.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Sure WHERE i would debate with you theo is that
we were Crowning lebron Before kobe. Left we were Crowning
kobe Before Shocking ai. Left like that's the biggest. Difference
like we were saying these guys are already the face
when those guys are still in the, league which is
very different from me one.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Hundred but let me go ahead and put some perspective
from those guys who. Won who won the last? Championships
was it was it kd Or bron sh now as
far as, fandom but, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Than jokers, though that's the number one player even with
those guys in the.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Least not the face.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Though he's the best player in the, world the best
play in the, world for, Sure but he's not the face. Though,
WELL i, Mean lebron's gonna be the face. Forever, yeah
you know What i'm, saying until he's, gone even when he. Retired, yeah,
still he's still going to be doing something with the.
LEAGUE i promise. You i'm just telling you he's gonna
have his hands and something owner SOMETHING i promise you
WHAT i.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Agree BUT i don't.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
KNOW i, mean because you gotta need to. Stop stop
what my, Nigga i'm confused To i'm gonna be honest with.
You what DID i Say this Guy Anthony edwards was?
Close what the hell are you talking? About is not
the face of his? Team now you need to that's
you need to tell to get out of the. Chat
yeah that ship right, There, yeah it's, Close.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
AND i think it's the biggest.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Name he's that step.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
AWAY i think And jaw kind of transcend the game
in terms of like, Fandom LIKE i think people just generally.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Getting Jo's john's not getting better.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Enough but but like you, said Support, Yaw no for,
sure but.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Like joe's not getting better on the, court like is
Like shay, is like that ship even J T Jason,
Tatum like if J t come back and fucking do his,
thing he got, it he got a chance. To like
we got guys who are. LISTEN i keep fucking saying.
It this, Nigga wimby is getting better every single time

(45:10):
he steps on the damn. Court Anthony evers has went
to The Western Conference, finals Not Eastern Western Conference, final
two years in a row and he has every intention
to get that three and this time not get. SWEPT
i think they still gonna get beat BECAUSE okc And
denver are.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Better but.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
At the end of the, day If aunt can make
that next. Step because When ant was making those, runs
we all talking About ant might be fucking top. Five,
Bro we're talking About ant being at that, level being
top five in THE. Nba shaye has just surpassed it
because that nigga's winning and scoring and scoring that. Ball

(45:52):
so uh, yeah when that's the biggest. Thing womby just
gotta stay. Healthy what's his injury right? Now fuck everybody
in these calf, injuries, Man.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
But from WHAT i read is he's feeling. Okay they're
just being super.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Cautious you have to calf injuries turns into.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Achilles, yeah it's kind of scary to be honest with, you.
Guys how how many like calf strains are having in the.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
League it's, Crazy like we got to really figure that ship.
Out there's so.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Many calf strains going, On, like what is? Different, NO
i get where you're coming. FROM i talked to a
few people about, it, man they say it's too much.
Stretching you, know you can stretch too. Much you, know
our bodies are not made to be flexible and stretched
like a. Woman's and when you start doing all this,
yoga all this extra stuff to make your body just

(46:45):
just expand and be of all flexible as me and
were not made to be flexible like.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
That, bro let's be. Real, yeah you know What i'm.
Saying so you know that's.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
You you're stretching your, Tendons you're stretching them bones and,
stuff and that's how them ships is easy to. Pop
i'm just Being honest's WHAT i just talking to somebody about.
It it says it's too much. Stretching obviously you have to,
stretch be. That but if you stretch so, much all that,
yoga all that, stuff this, stuff that's why you're seeing
a lot of pop. Achilles BECAUSE i asked that, question
why are we seeing so many popped achilles every? Year

(47:14):
you get two or three guys every year that's tearing their. Achilles,
Bro it's never been it's never been heard, of never
been heard. Of now it's like happening every, Year, like
why is that too much?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
STRETCHING i feel LIKE i think somebody said, this BUT
i think it was a. Player but they said because
someone Like, lebron and they Use lebron as a great
example because he's always running at like one hundred. Percent
his body's just used to holding that that kind of.
Workload that's what SOME nba players, SAID i leave on a.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Podcast that's part of it. Too so you gotta think about.
It though you never heard about that shit back in
the day when guys was playing eighty two. Games you
start laying guys sit out playing fifty playing sixty seven
a game because you trying to preserve them and save.
Them but you're not letting everybody get used to this
wear and. Tearing all this playing that you gotta. Do,
granted you might have to pay for it later on
in your, career LIKE i am right, now, ship BUT

(48:04):
i never had no major injury WHEN i. Played you
never a single major, injury not a major. ONE i
had to go uput it that, Knife, NO i broke,
it broke my, finger broke my. FINGER i had a
bad high ekle spring that had me out for a.
While but outside of that going up on a knife
and getting, cut, No so you were busting that very
blessing That Now i'm paying for it, NOW i gotta

(48:26):
go put it that knife.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Now so on THE okc, topic this is a crazy
stat might be, stupid but do you, know, Look Brownie
james has played more fourth quarters Than. Shay oh my,
God SHA's played six And brownie's played. Seven huh fourth?
Quarters that's how bad they beating the ship out of.

(48:48):
People shade didn't play a fourth quarter last. Night that's.
Crazy he's played only six fourth quarters out of fifteen.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Games i'm being.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
HONEST i don't see nobody who's gonna BE i was
talking to this with my dad last. Night who can Beat?
Okay see? Huh i've just Seeing chicago beat them last. Night,
BRO i don't. Know.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Ray you, know it's a regular.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Season there's.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Games you just, listen, man this team is only going
to get. Better you understand that they're like where guys
like them having to sit out in the fourth. Quarter
you understand these other guys are getting, reps these other
guys are getting that time on the. Court so that's
giving them. Confidence that's given them. Minutes so when they
get in the, playoffs they have no. Flaws that's why

(49:31):
when they have a guy sit, out they still beating
people bout thirty j doubble has been. Out they fourteen
and one or twelve and, one whatever record, is and
they got their second best Playoff.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Listen the last time we saw this type of, dominance
they lost in the.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Finals last year they had two centers, out two of
their big guys check and On. Hurstein guess what still
was beating people held on.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Bro This the last time we seen this in twenty,
sixteen the team lost in the. Finals this shit feels
like it's to, me it feels like yelling at the right.
TIME i feel like they're going there peaking. TOO i
don't say, peaking but they're going to. EARLY i hope
they just maintained it because it's a long. Season as
you guys, SAY.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I wouldn't care if it.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Was if there's a difference between The calves last year
and the way they were, winning they was. Winning i'm
using the. Doll last, year The calves was, winning, right
demail fuckers look. Good they was winning close. Ones they're
beating the ship out of, people out of. People they're

(50:32):
not playing it, bro they. Are they are going for
people's juggular and killing them, early like they're giving them no.
Hope AND i think there's been one game THAT i,
Remember i'm clearly the one they, Lost but there was
another game that was down by twenty and they came
back and. WON i want to say it was Against
memphis or some ship that Was.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Memphis, Damn, bro they.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
As much as you want to say they they're gonna
show up and they're gonna look. BEATABLE i don't, Know.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Bro eighty one and one is.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Bro they're not winning eighty, Games, broye that's.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Impossible i'm gonna be real with. You if they're, HEALTHY
i could see them beat beat break breaking that. Record
do they win seventy? Games it was one of the,
QUESTIONS i think they can break that. Record you think
they win seventy four? GAMES i think they can win seventy.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Four there's no way you think they're winning SEVENTY i think.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
They can win seventy four, Games, Bro, bro why?

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Not?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah by the, way there's a question for, You. Rare
he keeps asking you want to answer. That how good
was Shake?

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Cotton Shake cotton was really? Good where are you from?

Speaker 2 (51:41):
From?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Cally, yeah Wasn't he wasn't Even lebron Before. Lebron Shay
cotton was. Cold there's a name that they said there
Was lebron.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
BEFORE i, no, NO i don't know much about. Them
but What i've, heard who was that guy to?

Speaker 3 (51:55):
It?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah who's that?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
GUY i think it's some Name. Lenny there's some guy
that they, say Let Lenny. Cook, Yeah Lenny. Cook that's
What i'm. Thinking my Class Lenny. Cook, Yeah Lenny cook was.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
From the stories you hear About Lenny cook is he
was one and.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
ONE i ain't that. Old i've heard about, it, lady.
Though lenny was my. Class lenny. Was lenny was that.
Guy lenny was Like landy was flying flying profate planes to,
tournaments a tournaments and really he was like that.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Guy, yeah he was that. Guy the tournaments is crazy
two thousand and.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Two six SEVEN. Pg hell of that rock shoot it.
Ship the typical typical city nigga just who it.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Was a doll? Too what? Happened that he was dumb
as a bag of old? Crafts what?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Happened he's just not, wrong you, KNOW i just.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
That's that's just a prime example where people don't, understand
like you could be so. Talented that's why people think
it's so easy to make, it but it's not just
because you got skill work it's a lot of things
that that ties into.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
That you, know you gotta be.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
You gotta, be you gotta be a standing person off the,
court you gotta be a standing person in the. Classroom
it's a lot of things that come with, it not
just about. Hooping you, know and back then you could
have went straight out of high. School it was something
that happened With. Lenny not gonna talk about. It that's his,
story that's his. Business some stuff that happened with. Him But,
Lenny lenny should for sure should have been in the.

(53:33):
League talk about just being a. Pro that's part of the.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Job you have to be a.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Bro the biggest, THING i. Swear it's.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Crazy we even talking about, IT i, Think but it's
in the car, yesterday you, know even this morning BECAUSE
i was we did a part With Dwayne. Bacon we
was talking About Austin. Rivers shout, up, y'all y'all go watch. That,
uh there's so many guys like Oj mayo had the
world on choke, hold Like Austin. River think About sebastian

(54:02):
Teffor Sebastian, Telifair like there are so many guys that
when you get to THE nba and they go to,
college they cook, right they do their, Thing but when
you get to THE, nba.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
It's so.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Different their talent didn't go. Nowhere they still they always
had the. Talent it's all. Confidence it's confidence in. Situation
everyone's situation is not the. Same and not to say
people don't fuck up their own. Opportunities for sure people.
Do but at the same, time situation.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Matters for.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Sure take situation matters for anything in.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Life and my thing, is it's, like you got to
understand there's a lot of guys that get there and
there's a there's a part of you that has to
check your ego at the. Door and that's hard for
a lot of. Guys AND i definitely KNOW i got
an ego. Too you gotta have an ego playing. Basketball
if you, don't you're gonna get ran. Over you don't

(55:03):
got no. Chance ray used to come back To carolina
and check us every single time to see who's tough,
enough who's gonna bark, back who's gonna fucking, play who's
gonna be? Scared and, you if you, wasn't he gonna
gonna whoop your, ass you better come out there and do.
Something it would have GOT i WISH i could have
seen right he playing back In North, listens let me

(55:25):
Get i'm posted up the whole, time whole. Time let
me let me give you another example of a guy
whoever's From South. Carolina more, well whoever's From South carolina
can can can? Remember this name is a. GUY i,
MEAN i used to love this. Dude idolze him a
little bit for. Real Jerome Buddy, harper h six six point.

(55:47):
Guard he was in that class With Joe wallace and
all that class of two. Thousand, listen look him. Up
he's supposed to go To. Cincinnati there's no more point
than that. Class it was six six From, Columbia South.
CAROLINA i don't know that. Name Jeron, harper he was, cold.
Bro he'd have been one of those guys that From South.
Carolina he'd have been like considered one of the best

(56:10):
to play the.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Game he was. That he was that bad bro who
came out Of Rone, Harper South.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
CAROLINA i, know Like chicrgo Claims Kevin kevin From South.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Carolina. Bro, This, yeah that's. Crazy he moved To chicago
like his last two. Year you Couldn't you couldn't tell.
Me Adam morrison wasn't gonna be one of the best
players in the. League like you could somewhat tell like
games might not translate to the. Program but, bro he
he scored so easily he did he put that ball
in THAT.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I hear. YOU i would, SAY i, mean you, know
situation matters and. Everything you can name some of your biggest,
stars Like. DIRK i don't think if If steve doesn't
pull that Was dirk might not Be. Dirk they talked
about How Steve nash was a big part of his
confidence in training with. Him every single. Day there's always
one person put that battery in your, back like they
talk all the.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Time, man you have to have that's always listen. Everybody
Omar cook is a. Name cook was a dog Who, yeah, yeah, show.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
But, yeah situation matters for a lot of. People so but,
yeah the shape stat is. Crazy only playing six to fourth.
Court we'll. SEE i think they can get the seventy.
Wins seventy four is a, lot, yeah, buddy seventy four
is a. Lot all, right, man let's get seventy.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
FOUR i think. SO i think they.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Can y'all want to bet on. It that's the, check
y'all want to bet on. It i'm not gonna take
a little.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
MONEY i think they can get seventy. WINS i think
they think they can get.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
THIS i think. SEVENTY i don't think they're being the.
RECORD i don't think they're being the. Words seventy. Three
that's such a fine margin you get middle later in
though the.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Year what if they try to go for?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
IT i, mean, listen that's. FAIR i just don't think they.
Can what are we saying seventy four wins eight? Losses?
Guys think about? That how eight losses is one? Month
almost you're really going to say they want to lose
one game a?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Month? Shoot can you say they? Can't they beating it?
Ship can you say they? Can't they still got? Yet
they gotta Play denver four? Times he's been done.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Before have they Seen denver? Yet they gotta Play? Denver
they gotta. Play, yeah like it's. TOUGH i feel like
obviously they beat the ship. Out who they beat the ship?
UP i got to see them against who they. PLAY i,
Mean shay has showed up every single night pretty much
like there's gonna be off.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Now way they, PLAY i.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Don't, yeah you know it's different, though Because Isaia joe
shows up When sha doesn't show, up a J mitchell
shows up like, that teams. LOADED i don't. Know it's
it's tough to.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
See do they have enough firepower as The warriors did.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Though, no they. Did the twenty Sixteen warriors. Didn't they
had a lot of, shooters but they didn't have as
much fire twenty.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Sixteen oh, yeah because twenty, Sixteen, steph they're not getting.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
It they're not twenty sixteen With Steph, Clay Draymond harrison And.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Andrew if the team, wins Fucking Steph clay and kat
didn't get, it.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
They ain't getting.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
It, no but, no they didn't try to WITH. Kd
how much they GET kt is only sixty seven. Wins
they didn't try to WITH.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Kd only sixty seven.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
List it does sound crazy for me to say that it's,
Crazy But katie didn't try, though.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Right fucking. Wins, yeah it's a lot of, wins.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Bro, yeah that's a lot of. Wins sixty seven wins
is a lot of. Wins, yes a lot of. Wins
shout out To Dawan wagoner. Too he was cold. Raptors
he was all, right let's get to the raptors man
ninety five on the. SEASON i want to ask this.
Question B i was traded for no disrespect For Bruce,
brown a first round pick And Kelly olynick to me

(59:42):
for B, i that seems.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Insane that is the.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Same he's showing it, too BECAUSE i think anybody on
this couches B i is one of the coldest scorers
in the.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
League i've said, THIS i have literally said, this.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
My fucking can we run the cliffs by the way Brandon,
ingram he don't don't want you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yesterday, yeah we have the cliff. Here granted they were
playing Fuck Charlotte sean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Looko but, alright though they, competing they. Competed they for.
Sure CONK i get that right about who get to the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Market just tell he's he he's a smart. Player that's
WHY i just knew he'd be successful at.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Tools they gotta put some respect on by. Name bro
that man six, nine. SIXTEEN i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Think there's a single thing on the cord he can't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Do look at that. Baby. Baha, hey oh they made the, Playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Raptors yeah for, me they're they're a playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Team, yeah they made, playoffs for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Sure it'd be good for the City i'm gonna be
honest with y'all because of The. RAPTORS i don'm not
In toronto. ANYMORE i. DON'T i don't dislike them as,
much but we'll see if they do. Well shout out
to The.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
RAPTORS i would say they're a piece of The THEY
i feel like they need something for the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Bench so who do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
They have off their bench right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Nasty their bench isn't, great but a lot of a
lot of their money is in their starting line. Up,
yeah like you gotta think B, I, S, SCOTTY rj And.
EMMANUAL i think that's one hundred and thirty million, dollars,
Right Darren salar' one hundred and twenty million. Dollars let
me look at The.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Raptors they Got Keba, shelley they got their first round. Pick,
Uh murray.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Bowls sandra has been hooping, Though Brady, Dick, yeah it's,
Nasty walter Small Shad, Oh Colin Colin murray boys is
playing been playing?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Well, yeah he's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Decent And sandral's been playing. Well but isn't that just
up to the coach the Stagger because you HAVE, rj
and you Have scotty And, brandon you just got stagger
minutes and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Stuff, no, YEAH i mean my thing is they're not
better To. Detroit they're not better Than. Cleveland, no, no, no,
better not better Than. Philly they're not better Than.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
PHILLY i think right now without J t With, BOSTON
i think they think they can. GET i think they
could potentially. GET i don't Even i'm be, Honest i'm
not even confident in. That i'm not, confident BUT i
think it can. Happen they, compete, though, guys they. Do they,
compete and you got you guys said like you guys,
said you guys like the coaches energy when they're definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Playing definitely if they're, PLAYING i think they're top. SIX
i think. So.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
YEAH i played WITH i, mean he was a sister.
COACH i was, okay see that's. RIGHT i think The
rats is the top.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
SIX i hope they're not BECAUSE i know it was
a hunted to my. Boy that's, nasty bro.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
LOSING i told You toronto is gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Good it was top, Five actually it was top. FIVE
i said they would be top. FIVE i said they'd be,
six six or.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Lower.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
YEAH i THINK i think they should make the. Playoffs
there's this team is. Talented we haven't. Quick we got R,
j we Got, brandon we Got, scottie and you Got.
Purdle that's enough to make the. Playoffs there's no excuses
seem not to make the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Playoffs he, said The rattles is gonna lose to The
hornets in the. Playing so you got The hornets in
the PLAYING.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I do not have oh the magic and the. Heat oh,
yeah they're not top six heat or?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Balling, yeah but you know, what is it like?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Magic, No, no they're.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Not they're not better than. That if the magic have their,
identity they're not better than the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Magic rapsters there than the. MAGIC i don't, know BUT
i don't think they're better in magic yet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
A lot of. Nos fuck, NO i think they're playing,
better but over ages definitely playing. BETTER i, mean, listen
if you Put paula beside B i to me in
terms of just getting buckets as a, wash mm, Hmm
franz is better than Actually franz And scotty is kind
of a. WASH i probably give it an edge To.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Scottie they said The raptor is gonna lose like fifteen
games in the month Of. January that's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Nasty they're not losing fifteen. Games The raptors are a
decent basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Team all the we're, tripping they.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Should be seven to. EIGHT i think they'll make it
PLAYING i think they'll make the, playoffs BUT i haven't written.
Down they have two wins against The, cavs one win
against The, yes, shit they have some good. Wins they haven't.
Wins they lost The sixers, twice and they beat The.
Bucks they beat some good. Teams like the only THING

(01:04:31):
i say About okay, SEE i don't think he's been,
tested BUT i Think okay has done what they have to.
Do that's why didn't question The okay see fourteen to.
One The raptors have beat the, ship not beat the,
ship but beat some good teams The. Pistons YET i
looked at The pistons schedule when we talked about. Them
they haven't beat really great teams. Yet The pistons best team.
PLAY i believe it's like this is the seventy six,
ers but they haven't played like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
You're, RIGHT i haven't really seen them. PLAY i mean
they played Like, boston but Like Boston.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Boston, yeah so like The pistons have beat some, teams
but The pistols don't have a signature win for me
yet against a really good team that we. Identify so
that's why The raptors you got to give some credit
because they beat The. Calves The calves have five losses this,
year and two of them with The. Raps that's not
easy to be one of the best teams in The.
East two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Games they said The raptors had the hardest. SCHEDULE i
can believe.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
It they've played The bucks, twice they've played The calves.
Twice they played seventy six or. So we'll find. Up
we'll see how it continues progressing for the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Raft Scotty barnes And Franz. WAGNER i Like scotti Over.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Franz he's a two way.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Player Ray, YEAH i, Know i'm a fan Of France.
MAN i Like Franz franse A, hooper BUT i do Like. Scotty.
Though scotty reminds me Of Scottie pippen in a, sense
just the way he plays on both. ENDS i can't
say He's Scotty pippen because he has a long way
to go to get to that, guy but just his

(01:05:55):
his body, type his makeup and, EVERYTHING i, think you,
know he can he can potentially be there if you
work on his offensive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Game, yeah they're super. Disrespectful sorry you called them an,
autistic but you need to chill bro to. Autistic that's,
crazy y'all, needy y'all need to be. Respectful by the,
Way Shelter oasis appreciate. Y'all, uh we got D well
joining us On. Thursday by the, way y'all just confirmed
D well is joining us On. Thursday so you will
shout to D will pulling up two thousand and. FIVE

(01:06:25):
i will not mention national champions as a as a
starting point in the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Show you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Can he was not happy with me last. Night, really
he was joking, around but he was joking around BT.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
A he did have a. Package oh, yeah oh, yeah never.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Mind but, listen The will's resume is. Crazy bro is.
Crazy two time gold Medal, olympian his resume is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Crazy the look he didn't been he did some big.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Things, yeah just so everybody knows D will might be
occurring a lot more on. Here we'll find. Out trying
to work that out with, him but shout the D well.
Man we're excited to have him On. Thursday let's talk
About Marcus spears did you guys see the report That
kyrie could play today if it was the, Playoffs charlie's put, no, no,
Listen charlie is In dominican. Guys he's doing His hall
Of fame. Celebrating he will be back consistently next. Week

(01:07:15):
charlie is full time on the. Show he just got
took a little. Pto it's all it is. Week we
gotta hold it down While charlie's. Gone but did you,
guys did you guys see the report Around? Kyrie what
do you guys? THINK i don't like that if he's
not healthy enough to play, today if he's healthy enough
to play, today why not just play? Today you're risking

(01:07:36):
your career for it's the. PLAYOFFS i don't. Know i'm
not with.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
That there's no point play monitoring in the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Situation but the report is that he's playing this, year
his full intending to play this, year no matter the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Record he could. Play BUT i don't think he's fully
confident in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
It but then why would you put him in the
playoffs when it's when it's even more. Dangerous like's if.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
It was, cool he would do, it but like he
would be pushing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
It but that's What i'm, saying why would you push?
It that's your whole, career that's your. Investment, like that's
WHAT i disagree with.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Now it's easy said than.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Done If i'm in a situation And ray, said how
many times you play with an injury in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Every? Year that's his? Investment why is he doing?

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
THAT i don't agree with, it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Though why DID J dubb play with a broke? Hand
that's an?

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
INVESTMENT i would, Say, ray you didn't have as serious
as an, injury, right they're more nagging, injuries NAGGING.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
J duve had a broken. Hand why did he?

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Play i'm playing with, tols SO i don't. Know let
me ask, you did you know having a bum? Knee
playing on a bum ne can mess up your knee
for did you have a risk of your ligaments hand
would be messed up With like the rest of your playing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Career didn't get.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
WORK i think you should have played torn ligam is
a different. Conversation but if you were soaring a little
bit back then you should play torn ligam is a different.
CONVERSATION i know you're, playing So i'm cut.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
DIFFERENT i was. Playing JDub had a broken. Hand did
he wear cast, no, right he had like a padding
on his.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Hand, YEAH i. DON'T i don't know If i'm playing with.
THAT a broken hand is. Different BUT i guess this
Is kobe. Mentality that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Proving my. Point that's exactly what he's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Saying he's, like if it's meant, to IF i gotta
go out, THERE i could do, it BUT i don't have.
TO i want to be out of all the way
right BEFORE i put myself back out there and play
at the highest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
LEVEL i just don't feel good About Kyrie irving playing
on an eighty percent knee. One as we all, know
he is so, shifty the stopping go and the left to.
Right i'm telling his, knee his knees have to Be
people deal with a lot of. Stuff people are hurt
all the. Time they might not know, it but you're

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BRO i, mean this is this ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Ship but my, Man Joe barry's ankles were fucked like
they were fucked, up and he was getting uh toward
all shots before the. Game so he's doing that just
to get ready to come for the get ready for the.
Game i'm just talking from my. Experience we Saw luca
the finals. Run he was fucked up, yeah he passed

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on his, back, knees, legs all types of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Ship but.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Should tyre's MAXIM i, Mean tyree's talibrating them out there. Hindsight,
no but he got through game.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Six but he was, hurt not. Injured that's a great,
point Star. Man you can play hurt but not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Injured he ended up tearing his fucking. Achilles but.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
We didn't know whether he was gonna tear the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Kill no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. No
what was Her we knew what was, hurting he, knew
he knew.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
That that's game seven of the. Finals, no, no, no
that's what that's Our i'm, say if you're in the
first round of the, Playoffs i'm not. Risking i'm not risking.
That game seven is different one game to win it
all to if.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Your team has to if your team has a legit
chance to win it, all but they need.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
I'm gonna setut for another week or so and see what.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Happens you don't got my, Nigga you don't got a
week a week the series?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Over, NO i mean you go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
THROUGH i MEAN i would say at least the first two.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Games you don't got time for that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Ship you might have a, game, yeah but fel like
you gotta think of it, too, Bro like people do
that all the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Time All i'm saying, is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
That's what they did WITH. Kd we're down three ONE
kd suit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Up they played, them BUT i guess what. Happened my
point is that you guys are. Right you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Know What i'm trying to say is THAT i don't
like the fact that there they would rush him to
play in the playoffs if he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Ready, regardless this is, coming but this came from his
camp though he said if it was the, playoffs he would.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Do it for.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Sure but we still think he's two months. Away so
how are you two months away and then you can?

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
PLAY i personally don't think he's two months.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Away, okay it's reported that he wants to come, back
probably In january, Early, like that's two months, away.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
BRO i think he wants to come back when he
wants to come. Back knowing knowing him, PERSONALLY i think
he knows he could play right, now but he's, LIKE
i want to make sure this is all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
RIGHT i have no, setbacks nothing LIKE i am one hundred.
Confident the team fucking sucks right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
NOW i don't. KNOW i don't think they. SUCK i
think they have a bad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Record they got a bad, record. DON'T i think the
team is bad right. NOW i think they'll be. Okay,
Yeah so if they're able to withstand it and do their,
thing then that's what it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Is he's coming back this. Year it is reported he
is coming. Back can we pull the graphic? Please by the, Way,
adam he, is he is coming back this. Year how
do they suck? Back he, Said they've been close in
a lot of. Games, Bro they've Just, Bro they've lost
at least four games with a couple of. Points that's the.
Difference Is kyrie irving the? Difference Anthony, DAVIS i agree with.

(01:13:02):
That we're Don't we're don't wait for ready to get.
BACK i don't Think kyrie is big of an impact
player as we make him out to be at this,
age although we love his play.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Style we need to just Do Paul george return and
then we can do the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
RING i don't know If, adam do you have the graphic?
Stuff can you give me a thumbs? Up if you
have the?

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Said, no, What, Bro i'll be right. Back oh don't
got the? Graphics my man showed up. Late shout out To. Oasis,
HEY i like. That Uh neil, fact how you say your?
Name nella F X shout out To, oasis, man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Shout out To. Oasis we need. That we need that.
REAP i need to reap at my.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Crib so What i'm, saying we need that reap Rest
oasis energy drink drink see it you want? Some uh but, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
All, right let's pull THE rankom. GRAPHICS i only went with,
four by the, way SO i left off the. List
he's still young in his. Career, guys we're picking guys
with fifteen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Years you left off the. Combo, yes, bro we're.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Picking guys with their.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Careers.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Bro stop we got A Rankom Combo Guard. Edition ah,
boy that's. Tough this is a list for, me, easy,
easy easy list for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Me this, man you fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Trip It's steph number. ONE i think everybody agrees with.
That yes or? No the resume.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Is that what we're talking? About?

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
RESUMES i think it's. Everything it's it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Combination you said the best combo. Guard we didn't say. Resumes,
okay that's a different. Conversation that, IS i don't playing
against all these guys and my list it's not going
to be where yours goes is not based off. Resume
mine is based off standing in front of him kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Garden that's. FAIR i never have to do. THAT i
can understand.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
That all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Right you, said you said your, list what's, Yours.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Steph it's exactly how it's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Ranked that's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Crazy well made that. List but that's my that's my.
List will made. THAT i didn't do. It It's, Steph, Ai, Kyrie,
James harden And kyrie And ai is. Tough i'm might
Put kyrie had An, ai but right NOW i have
to Leave ai.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
There this is this is a tough one for. Me
this is the hardest ranking we've. Had it's the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Best i'm not with.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
That this is the. Tough this is the toughest list we've.
Had on to The. Baja i'm Going. Kyrie this is
WHAT i had to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Go Got kyrie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
FIRST i Got, Kyrie, Ai steph And. James i'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Mad at any as long As james is not, First
i'm not mad at any.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
List to be honest with, YOU i Got, Kyrie, ai
steffas talk will be on the item Of kaim like
still get, Granted steph can handle the, ball But steph
used to come off. Picks he's come off. Streams kyrie
is just straight move out the, way park basketball. Move

(01:16:13):
i'm finna get. Busy, hey y'all same.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Way.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
HEY i had the wickest cross off ever ever in the.
Game he got a wickes cross off every the game
and when he decided to throw, it you're. BITING i promise,
You i'm going to be the bodies he got in the.
League he made one dude fall. Twice And antonio, McDaniels,
YEAH i won't gona say his. Name i'm gonna be.
Real i'm gonna be real with. YOU i don't know
IF i could Put james.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
LAST i have to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Do you seven. Performances, still you have to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
He he averaged fifty for a, month but yeah he.
Does see you're going. Up we're talking about the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Layer we're.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Talking, no, no, no we established this before we started.
Talking we established. It.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Resume you just said show up in game. Set that's
showing up in THE.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
I told you my list went on resume that is
resume WHEN i was on Who i'm? Guarding, okay all,
right who you, Listen, James harden And. Houston if you
don't show up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
In the biggest. Moments is that not part of your?
RESUME i, mean is That i'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Putting on resumes. Exactly just put my based ON i
put my based on Who i'm, guarding me guarding the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Person it's being clutching off part of you as a.
Player you're saying His game seven, performance His game seven
numbers went.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Over were, Awful, okay because he's. Tired you, know the
load he has to put on the whole time he
was In. Houston all, right the man average fifty for a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Month No? Diddy all, Right i'm gonna say that that
Was that was No. Diddy but we don't GOT tv,
here so we. Good the.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
The the disrespect That James harden is kind of crazy to.
Me fifty four month is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Not that's a heard. OF i don't know if anybody
else has ever done. It has anybody done? It that's? Fair,
yeah in my, Opinion i'm gonna be completely. HONEST i
Got james'. One.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
WOW i never seen somebody get guarded From they had.
To they guarded him behind. Them utah did.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
It my team With brooklyn did. It we were guarding this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Motherfucker was, like what type of respect do you have
to have for someone to, say we can't stay in
front of, you so we're just gonna hope you, miss
and then you gotta just make. Uh you got to
just make a play. Somehow SO i go as.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Far as Guarding james was probably shit, shit i'mna be.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
HONEST i just left the fifty fifty pint MONTH i was.
IN i was that this ship is fucking. Nuts this is, tough,
bro BECAUSE i was just about to say flat out. Fear,
yeah you fear all four of them when they are
at they when they are at their. Peak you fear

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at all four of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Them. Niggas you gotta go to sleep the night. Before
you gotta get your. Rest risk get your.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
REST i don't think anybody is not resting for those.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Four you gotta get your.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Rest you better get your wrists or you better call
you better Say i'm. Sick i'm gonna say. That Stephen,
Curry i'm gonna make a case for all of. THEM
i don't know IF i can rank.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Them you have to rank.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
THEM i Rank Stephen curry is arguably the most fear shooter.
Ever not arguably it's the most fear shooter in the,
game because when you run down, court there's like a
where the fuck is?

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
He alan And ivers said it That everson was the,
biggest the biggest. Killer he puts fear. Off he literally
puts fear, six.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
One five and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Eleven he's the biggest killer at that. Size i'm telling
you right, now he put fear in anybody's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Horse are you guys talking to one on one context
talk About, okay, cool, cool that's. It the? Highlights please ad, Him,
no don't bring up the. Highlights Kyrie. Irving Kyrie irving
is put the graphic back up AT m put the
graphic back.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Up Kyrie irving is fucking probably the most gifted basketball
Player i've seen as far as like skilled basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Player the most skilled basket, Player so that's hard for.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
Him not to be. One he's the most still Player
i've ever, seen like he is literally one of the.
Ones if you talk about, everything there's not one fucking
Thing Kyrie irvan can't do in the basketball court other
THAN i don't know if you've seen ky go down

(01:21:06):
the middle lane and punch on, Somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Nobody can. Don't but he can't fucking punch on a.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Nigga who's the best defender out of the four because
THAT'S i, Mean james don't really play, defense.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Y'all, y'all you can throw passes around.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Here, YEAH a Is STEPHAN a are greatest stealing the.
Ball they're both typically two steals a. Game that's part of.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
It, okay this is my.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
List james only played one side of the. Basketball let's be.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Honest this is my, list And i'll probably get crucified for,
this but this is my, List so fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
IT i Got, JAMES i got, CAR i Got, STEPH
i Got. Ai oh, god that's my.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
List i'm not mad the list BECAUSE i understand where
you're coming. From but.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
That's the hardest thing for. Me Putting ai, last it's killing.
ME i can't put right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Now he's never jumping on on your.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Wrist oh, YEAH, A i would. NEVER i can't do.
THAT i can't Put.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Chuck but shout out TO a because he shows love
to all the news. Guard he's always bigging up all
the next.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Every new guard you SEE i want to PUT i
want to put him in the in.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Them but that's why you Got that's like Putting Richard
pryor in front of all these new comedians and all
of them taking a taking a bit from, him something
like my.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Boy, said THOUGH i don't see and stuff the handle
If Steve nash And Reggie miller those are, his that's
WHAT i seem. Stuff i'm not gonna lie to, you,
NO i THINK i.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Can't i'm gonna be honest with. YOU i want to
PUT i can't Put steph. Last those two are number.
One those are one and. Two those can flip flop.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
If you want. TO i.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
GOT i can't believe you guys don't have stuff in
your top. Too that's my but that's just my. Bias
BUT i get.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
It lives a long. LIST i just fear, ki BUT
i don't fear. Them i'm a grown man.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Fault but.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Those two, motherfuckers Bro, listen there was No there wasn't
ship people were doing With. James you weren't doing ship with.
Him there was nothing you could do with. Him there's, nobody,
no there's nobody THAT i can't put the most skilled

(01:23:21):
Player i've ever seen below. TWO i can't After i'm
gonna be. Honest he's solidified with. Me after he made
a left hand game winner Against, DENVER i, said that
is the most amazing game WINNER i have ever seen.
You show me a better game, Winner show me a

(01:23:43):
more impressive game winner Than Kyrie irving going down the
middle of lane on a seven foot or left, handed
not stand, still but on the. Move do y'all do y'all?

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Understand? Man fuck? There, Listen Dearri fisher turned around.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
And what's his? Name El Sean? Elliott tippy, toes not
foot above the. Line you remember that on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
The spurs beck of his heel was, up huels were
above the.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Line tippy toes only that WAS i can go into
jail right now and go tippy toes and hit a, jumper,
yeah to win the? Game huh, Okay oh, LISTEN i
know there's a lot of people that can go tippy.
TOES i promise, you if you give every player in
THE nba one chance to do what the Fuck Kyrie evern,
DID i bet you it's not even fucking fifteen of

(01:24:30):
him MAKING.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
I don't. KNOW i, think, y'all y'all, LISTEN i think
at least.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Driving, left driving, left on the, move shoot shooting this
way at the goal and making a. Floater you're never.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
SAYING i think at LEAST i think at least twenty
percent of the league if, you if you attempted it
would get it just off the. Pier strik you guys
for a game.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Winner, No i'm not thinking shooting that bitch left? Handed
why did he shoot it left? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Now make THAT i ain't talk about, This no, casual casual.
Shot this is for the. Game oh, yeah this is
for you never playing clips.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Again, NO i MEAN i have to have them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Ready, okay never, mind don't worry about that just.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Because this is part of our argument for your copyateor
we have to cut it LIKE i just, no you
guys are, RIGHT i get. IT i mean Maybe i'm
just overestimating.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
It i've never seen a better game. Winner, yeah putting
a last, hurts, though somebody gotta be. LAST i can't
put it. Last you're JUST i think y'all are more
accepting and Putting james last because he can be. Last
but that man average fifty four. Months that's, fuck it's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
STUPID i mean it's hard To it's hard for me
to ignore What steph does in terms of the, gravity,
right what he does for your, team and how much
he moves off the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Ball so you're still talking about team, ship BUT i
talked about.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
But that's part of, It but how much he does
for your team on the basketball for But? Ai for,
me obviously you have a.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Great steph argument, though like you always have The steph
argument with, Gravity like if you if you couldn't use,
gravity could you put? Him would you be able to
argue for?

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Him?

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
No but that's part of him on the basketball. Court
that's the effect of him being on the, court right
ais tough us bet Against. Ai he was five to
eleven and he went to the finals and he stole
a game against Those. Lakers they didn't lose a single
game Until Jackie kobe did not lose a single game until, that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
And their prom in their. Prime who would you who you?
Fear steph the? Most, adam those mother those guys right,
there you are step the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Most not on the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Island but if you put in a five on five, situation,
yeah because you can't relax with him on.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
That that's not what we. Talked we, said best combo.
Guard we, Said, god, listen this is your match, up
this is your match up the next. Day you need
to get sleep with all of. Them THIS i, said
who do you? Fear who would you fear? More Probably?

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Kyrie but that's not but that's not the that's not
the question.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Though that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Wasn't, no we established that to start this. SHIP i,
said we not talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
Resumes that's what we're not talking.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
About.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Gravity we're not talking about as we're not talking about
the nigga moving at the. Ball we talk about you're
sitting there guarding this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Nigga, no that's that's that's that's on the. Island we
never once to say. That we, said who's the best coming?
Guard resumes, aside that's what you do on the. Court
your gravity is part of what next.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Question so you're Putting, Stephane.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Kyrie irvings, one, okay car is one hands down to.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Me so you're saying five on five, setting you gotta get.
Rest the next, night you're Saying Stephen. Curry, yes because.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Of what he.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Does he he Adjusted your whole team has to adjust
Towards Steph curry in terms of the. Gravity he changed
the way we look at the. Game he changed the
way that bigs. Play he Removed Eric Damn Pierre, shook
like all those big, centers bruising. Centers for me to
not put steph up, there to, me it's crazy for,
me that's just in my opinion for what how much

(01:27:51):
he does for you on the. Floor that's like, saying
if we had The lebron, Argument lebron's, passing we just
remove that His What lebron does for you in terms
of the team and how he can see the four
is What steph's gravity does for a whole. TEAM i
can't remove.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
That all, Right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Steph's worse on the ile, LIST i can say. That
that's an easy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Call, henna be, HONEST i haven't Seen steph one for
nobody in the. Chat does anybody Have steph one in this?

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Group some people said they had him, one but they
said that's based because of his, resume which we're not
basing off.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Of, yeah we're not going resume on this since actually
number one. Vote look he's thirty, four he's a number one,
VOTE i mean. Votes we got. Fifty how we got
fucking we got a butch of hell knas.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
One v one, though but look we got him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Too we got we probably should have classified.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
It we got said who's the best calm guard in
the history of THE. Nba that's what was the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
QUESTION i think we got people voting off. Resume shout
out to Mister crabs, though.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
See, look mister crabs And Steph STEPHAN'S i, mean, LISTEN
i understand where you guys are coming. From it's an
argument on both.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Sides that's, why that's why is the. Debate, yeah it's.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
DEBATE i don't think there's a single wrong answer. Here
Steph curry is one of the coldest players ever. Played
ai And kyrie And. James you could say the same
statement About. Ray you have to match up with all
four of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Them, MAN.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
I voted just, okay all, RIGHT i didn't see who.
Commented but, anyways let's move. On let's talk about another.
Debate we didn't get to talk about it. Yesterday Uh
cooper flag some comments that he would not be a
top five pick in today's. DRAFT i mean he would
be maybe, fifth fifth or. Sixth before we get to,

(01:29:36):
That can we run the, Nick can we run THE
aj Demands Eclipse agent cooked Against. Yukon he did his.
THING a lot of people say it was tough to see,
it like a. Lot i've saw a lot of like
comments from you, KNOW nba, execs quote, unquote it's tough
to pass up on WHEN aj has talent.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Because of what he can possibly.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Be he fished that's Your, yeah Like carmelo.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Molds depending what he go. To a team he go, to,
LIKE i would hate for him to go to The.
Wizards they already got so many fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Guards.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Bro now he's going to The, pacers him And tyresee
if he went to the Fucking. Pacers you, Know i'm
gonna be pissed off if he, goes no. DISRESPECT i
don't want to smoke with Them New. ORLEANS i do
not want to see him In New.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Orleans MIGHT i Don't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Charlotte charlotte is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
COOL i like. That you Got.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
Murray they funking, around keep his eye, on keep aj bears.
BEERS i like, that young. Fellow New orleans don't have their.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Pick.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Damn oh, okay you Got New orleans. Picked, okay he
might go To, okay see he.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Goes, Okay see, man that's gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Be they're gonna move M.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
You why would you move? Him you can keep.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
It where is he gonna? Play i'm gonna go get.
In i'm gonna go get an elite. Center, No, bro
senters you got is what you need for. Bro hartenstein
is perfect for.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
Them, bro could you imagine if you had an elite.
Center who's the fuck is? Elite i'm just, saying if
you had H j WHO i guess he's the future.
THREE i just don't know if he develops as. Much
who's who's Your who's your?

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
CENTER i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Know i'll just SAY i would probably look for one
of the best centers if someone's, rebuilding and that's WHAT
i would go.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
After i'm not fucking With. Harnstein he's doing. EVERYTHING i,
need EVERYTHING i. Need, no, no but, listen they don't
have that causing no. Problem they don't have a future, three.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
That's What i'm. Saying but then you get rid of Lou.
Dort you can't have him sitting on the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Bench brow come, up the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Bitch you're gonna fuck With Lou Door you, say how
valuable lose to the, Team like he's still on the.
Team what WHAT i? THINK i think the most expendable
player Is. Chat that's WHY i would go After. GIANNIS
i would trade A j And chet For. GIANNIS i

(01:32:15):
do something with the. BIGGS i don't Think chat AND i.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Don't WANT i don't want A j to go there.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Anyway like you're not gonna get the full you're not
gonna see what aj is ever.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
With jub And shaye go To.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Boston but that's WHY i said to, YOU i don't
want to see him In.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Okay, SEE i don't want to see. Him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Okay see if they want to go Get yannis him And. Milwaukee,
Listen milwaukee is not my favorite. City but you get
the rock out Of.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Milwaukee, yeah here to get the rock out he Would
SO i don't know he would get to The Bajah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Milwaukee but let's get to. It Is cooper a top
five or six pick in this year's, draft SO i
think a lot of people will have a j And
Darren peterson over. Him mother name is Cam? Boozer what
H Tayler, Wilson Caleb, Wilson. SOUFANDRE i don't know If
i'm saying his name right out Of Baylor ray Loves

(01:33:09):
virginia Techs european prospect.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
And listen my sleeper in the.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Draft, YEAH i don't. Know what do you think it's
hard to Say cooper dominated in? COLLEGE i, mean like
you can't sit here and say he wasn't cooking like
he was fucking cooking in.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
COLLEGE i mean he led his team and all went
to the final, four, Right, copete he nice as. FUCK
i don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
IT i, mean if you want a pure basketball, Player
cooper knows how to, hoop, man he knows how to.
HOOP i think he got put in a situation where
he might not have been all the way ready for,
Yet like he got put in a point guard position
in THE nba off the. Rip that ain't easy when

(01:34:02):
he's never played point gud let.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Me we talked about. It we said he should have
never been.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
There you can change a question for you, guys BECAUSE
i did make a top.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Three so is he?

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
Headed Darren PETERSON aj debantsa Either Cam, Boozer Caleb, wilson
is he top three in this draft? CALLS i THINK
i think he could definitely be.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Talking, hey, LISTEN i would say, this with the class
they got coming in, now he is liable to Drop.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
No one had you can't be, like oh, shit we
don't see.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Why but why but why is he out of the top?
THREE i think he should be top, three just THINKING
i personally.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
WOULD i THINK i think he ain't number.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Unanimous he's not unanimous number, one BUT i knew he
was number one this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Year but but but, LISTEN i Like Kaitler Wilson moore
as a. PLAYER i don't THINK gms would because WHEN
i Saw kayleb Play Night riders that final tournament he
played against a j he showed me a. Lot you
were there, too right for the final two years ago
in To, eybo he showed me a. LOT i was
felling over With Kaleb wilson's game from. Then BUT i

(01:35:01):
can't Say Cam boozer Or Caleb wilson Or baylor's guard
or The Virginia tech you would draft Over.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Cooper what's the what's the dude From? Baylor what about
the kid From Virginia. TECH i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Know. SOON i think that dude From Virginia. Tech he,
nice but is he really?

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
About they about to go up there and. Drive they
about to go into the. Mountains they about to go
see what that motherfucker looked?

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Like what you can't? Nigga they got an.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
Airport i've never been To Virginia, Tech, DUDE i got an.
Airport we took the bus every time we went up, There.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Virginia. Tech we.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Did we never flew up. There they took a. Bus, yeah,
bro they don't got no fucking. Airport, BRO i don't
remember no. Bus we might have did it, too BUT
i don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
That remember no.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Bus how long was that? Drive that was pretty? Far
two and a?

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Half that far you play Against virginia teck a? Lot, Yeah,
OH i thought they were part of like the when they,
REALIGNED i didn't know they're part of THE.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Aca, then hoping, though he's gonna put that out. There
he's been playing a lot. Better he ain't been a point,
Guard so.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
There you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Go, Yeah i'm ending the.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Vote by the, way The brice definitely took the, bus
so yo.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
Haul george, returned, mhmm.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
You look. Okay watch out For Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
BRO i think he looks super. PATIENT i think he looked.
GOOD i think obviously he's got to get his legs.
Back he hasn't played basketball for like consistent basket for
a year and a. Half but he looked. Good.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Man that's a that. Man that's a hooper. Bro if
he come back healthy and he find his way to
jail and fit in with the young boys and be that,
veteran be that guy that they can lean on when
things get a little. Tough because right now everything is.
Fun they having, fun they ball and they. Winning but
it's gonna it's gonna get. Tough at some point you're
gonna start losing a little. Bit what you're gonna do
when you start dealing with, Adversity and that's when guys

(01:36:58):
LIKE pg and them come, In Kyle, lowry those, guys
those veterans that they got over. There SO i feel he's.
DANGEROUS i told you. This they give they, healthy it's
a dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Team is he the fourth option on their? Team because
that's what someone just. Said, no there's no way vj's
ahead of. Him, yeah, no i'd be. Disrespectful he's not
bro and pump the fucking breaks. Here VJs are?

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Great how? Much how much Does paul make?

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Okay, no, no sorry to? Nineteen, okay he's the third
option all right, now he's probably the second option Because
joel is not.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
Playing, dude he's number.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Two once he gets back to, it he, like once
he's back and for, effect no minute minute. Restriction he
gotta be number two and until he shows me he
can't be number.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Two do you like their playing style without and? Beat?

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Yeah for the rightlar. Season, yeah they.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
Play faster even with even with, drumming, drumming get up
and down the, court AND b he ain't trying to do.
That he trying to trail for, three get that ball
through that little his he get to the, spot he
slows the ball down for.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Sure so are you are? You are you Keeping? Paul
you can't move.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Him No one's gonna Take paul's contract unless you switch
out for an older. Player Like i'm. Not LIKE i said,
BEFORE i Think jimmy For paul would make sense for both.
Teams that's something like that type of, player older player
with the, same similar contract you can.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Get, yeah SO i.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
DON'T i don't think you can Move. Paul to be
honest with, you, guys you got to ride it out
or unless he plays really. Well but if he plays,
well why would you move? Him?

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
RIGHT i like This philly, team, BRO i don't know
what it. Is ACTUALLY i do know what it. Is Harry's.
Maxie don't give a. Fuck harry's maxan man making his
argument be one of the best guards in this.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
League do you guys Have tyre's Over? Jalen come come this?
Playoffs both of them are actually good to, go both
of them hooping like they know, dude like they like
they know how To sorry because y'all have been Saying
tyres has been the best guard in the, LEAGUE i
mean The, east, sorry and he has been see him And.
Dawn but when you get to the game seven, games,
playoffs who are you?

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Picking it's hard to Say Becausejenner berson the show that
he can hit big, shots playing in big, moments some
big shots. Too he playing in big lights every night
In Madison Square.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Garden so THAT i have to give it is to.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Jal i'm not going to put him in front Of jalen,
yet you have to get it In jealen is still
a fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Problem this is the. Problem this is the problem that
we all. Have we get.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Bored, well we Didn't jalen do it for so? Long
we like what's new for two, years we like, it
what's new for a, while we like, it what's, new
this is. New Tyre's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Maxie what he's doing Picking tyres Over Jail i'm with, you,
guys he is.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
New so he's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
Bawling you know who's Picking tyres Over? Jillen maybe for
sure he is pick for sure taking because he just
don't Like.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Nicks. Uh just to. Me he's From New.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
York jalen is one of the most clutch players in
the league, THOUGH i mean he Won Clutch player The
year last.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Year his his efficiency was. CRAZY i think it was
like fifty five. Percent So i'm taking that any day
of the. Week you gotta have that. Guy, yeah Mister,
craps it's been two years Since jail has been hoop and.
Hooping he obviously played With dallas and he was. Hooping
but when he got the keys in the next with
two years, ago, right this is his third, year, right
that's when he really should have been three years him

(01:40:28):
three two and a. Half it wasn't this coming out
party really the playoffs The utahs where he's, Like i'm really.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
HIM i don't, know way was that three years ago
or what? Else two and a half years?

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
Ago twenty twenty, three twenty twenty three was your last?
Season was? Not so that's that was it two and
a half years? Ago but he won on the team that.
Year he's on the team the year, before three and a.
Half he's been three and a half. Year, yeah okay's
three and a half. Years, okay sorry my. Pologies, yeah
you guys are.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Right as A jb, man they played At dallas On.
Wednesday but he's he's injured right. Now, wednesday he was
on the court working out. Yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Though if he's, back, Listen i'm excited to see gem him.
Back he's he's prime. Time let's talk about The. Clippers
this is an interesting QUESTION i saw On. Twitter who
has contributed more in the time with The Clippers, Kawhi
leonard Or James. Harden one of them has missed a
lot of. Games one of them is hooped a.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Lot.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
OBVIOUSLY i Believe kawhi has been to A Western conference Fin,
no he wasn't with that team team that went to
The Western conference. Finals was just WITH.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Pg he got hurt right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Before so who has contributed? More it's a great. Question
it's not the. Same let's look at games. PLAYED i
agree that Same hardening went nowhere. Either let's look at
Games Slade.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Hardens.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
Played, WOW i might have to Say. James it might Be. James.
GUYS i think It's. JAMES i, mean you gotta look
at expectations as, well, Right, yo, Guys kawhi's played since twenty,
nineteen twenty, Twenty he's probably only paid more than fifty

(01:42:15):
games In James james played two and a half years.
Ago this is a six. Year it's. Insane kawhi is
just LIKE cv ON pto.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
As james contributed more to The. CLIPPERS i, mean technically,
yes but they still both ain't done.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
SHIT i think the disappointment Of kawhi, Too him And
paul were supposed to win at least one. Chip. AGREE
i think that adds to. It not saying that we. Know,
listen you guys know more than anybody takes a lot of,
luck takes, HEALTH a lot of things have to go
right to win the. Championship they didn't. Have that's one
that they didn't. Have but the expectations tell.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
Me or, LOOK.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
I hate, it, bro someone just Sitting i'm a Huge kawhi.
Fan y'all going crazy about? That, Nah, listen no disrespect
to either. Player both players are. Great this is a
funny QUESTION i saw On. Twitter hate, It, yeah is
a fucking. Issue all, right let's talk About. Wemby he's.
OUT i know we talked about a little bit briefly
when we started to show how y'all feeling about. That

(01:43:26):
it's calf.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
Strained take your, time because that cass train could turn Into.
Achilles we've seen, This we've as seen this story. Before
take your, time young. Fella don't rush.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
Back is he's still Deepoy?

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Locke, YEAH i mean here we missing a couple of.
Games three weeks a lot of, Games oh would be.
SILENT i didn't know it was three.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Weeks it's about two to three, weeks But i'm gonna
say three just being.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
A little you, KNOW.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
I, GO i go out there and try to do.
Something he wanted to be qualifying for those. Awards he
got a chance to get a whole bunch of.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
THEM i think he's gonna be An All, star SO
i think he already qualifies for, like you, know the.
Extension he's already a one. Time, also he'll be An
All star this, year so he'll get that max. Extension
Derek rose. Rule shout out To Derek rose for that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Rule, Man so what you, think? Man if the Fucking
pelicans were just somewhat, decent.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
They're, booty they're two and. Twelve your buyout's, gone by the.
Way you, know you're just gonna you should have took
the hundred you got the buy with With. Charlie when
he gets back right for The, pacers you're gonna catch
out a five.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
HUNDRED i think it, was, yes they're one that's worse than.
Me though they're, bad they getting guys back and they.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Still Get.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Hey that that was a bad bet to, Take but, hey,
man think SO i thought.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
They were still. Solid they just if they were, healthy
they would have bet they would have.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Won he should have gave SO i think should have
gave haller burgnon three hundred because he's so goddamn talking
about being being being before your.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
Team Fuck, NO i Think Myles turner is awsome missed.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Too yeah he.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
Is do The spurs take a? Dip now they take a?
DIP i think they still win, games don't. REALLY i
THINK i think they'll probably be like five hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Without, him depending on who they.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Play i'm gonna go to the schedule right. NOW i
got you, Guys San antonio. SCHEDULE i still think they'll
be five. Hundred THOUGH i should have Missing Dylan harper,
too AND i like Doing they got The, hawks they
got The grizzies, today W hawks And. Spurs where In San?
Antonio i've been going With San antonio that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Way castles out, Too, oh castles out, Too that's What
lewis t.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
Said oh they're not Beating. Atlanta that's WHERE i may
not Beat. Memphis smiph has been playing a little bit.
BETTER i don't know, why but they've been playing a
little bit better because they Got Big eadie back.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
Too oh, YEAH i might get. Scary and then they
scheduled bro you just then they got The. Sons that's
al without, Them sons have been. Hoopin then they have The.
Blazers that's an now Without. Wemby are you ready for
the next. One then they gotta go see which is
IT l for? Us we're missing OUT k Versus. Wenby

(01:46:15):
that's AN l for. Us and then then in the two,
weeks then they gotta go see At man In. Minnesota
then they come back to The, grizzyes so that's after two.
Weeks and then they see the Magic cavaliers And. Pelicans
so by the end of three weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
They could get real. Spooky you can get spooky for The.
Spurs it is.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Spooky listen to the. Stretch they got The, Suns, Blazers, Nuggets, Wolves, grizzies,
whatever magic and.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
Calves i'm gonna tell, you And i'm gonna, YEAH i
believe they're. Cooked i've said, THIS i fucking said. This
somebody just said they're. COOKED i said, this these guys,
Right wimby's. Hurt they're the same fucking. Team we, Said
wimby had a taking that. Step winby took that next.
Step when you're those other, teams you're looking at The spurs,

(01:47:06):
team The spurs game right now as.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
A must win with no.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Winby how many times did you go to a schedule
and we we were going through the skyting, report we
find out somebody's. Out you're sitting there, like all, right
we gotta win this. One somebody not, Playing Nigga woma's not.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Playing oh, yeah we. Can we gotta get these niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
Tonight where WHERE i might disagree with, YOU i mean
not disagree with, you but we haven't seen them Without.
Wenby we always saw them Without wenby on the bench
without De. FOX i think the fox gets to go to.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Work now he gets to go to. Work No castle, Hurts.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
No castle hurts a. Lot that's the ONE i. Forgot
if you if you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
Don't Have, harper you don't Have, castle you don't Have.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Wimby all your young guys are. Gone that means now
you're back to The spurs.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
All now you're back to The. Spurs that was in the.
Lottery how you got fucking?

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Women, now that's, okay get you go get a j.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
You go Get i'm not saying they dropped that far Or,
Darren i'm not saying they ass, asked but they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
Ask, No i'm just.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Dridding they should not, tank but they.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
Asked so they're nine and four right.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
Now they they're gonna walk it around five hundred when
he comes, back they're gonna be around five.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Hundred and that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
They're gonna lose about five games that they're gonna lose
to The. Spurs they're gonna lose to The. BLAZE i,
mean they're gonna lose to The.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
Nuggets In december they Played, Grizzlies, Magic, Calves.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
Pelicans he will.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
Be back around that, time you. Hope they said two
to three. Weeks and it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Cat it is A.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
Caffinger you guys are.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
Right then they, Play, okay see twice play The jazz,
played The casts played The.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
Knicks you guys all right.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
Now the only THING i would say to you guys
is you could still be in The west and be
let's just call. It they win two games eleven and.
Thirteen there was two of. Eight they go two for
eight and they're still going to be in the playing
game and them get.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
Back Sergean ye said they gott to Bring pop.

Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
Back shout out the, pop But pop ain't coming.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Back so literally half the league best players is. Out.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Son before we head, off do you guys want to
Answer Peter gunn's? Question he's asked a couple of. Times
as great as a joker, is can y'all talk about
the lack of competition at that? Position it seemed like
people are scared to talk about. That, uh there's a
lot more dogs in the, bigs And ray brought up
the argument before when he said they had to face
up Against can.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
Y'all talk about the lack of competition at The it's
not the lack of. Competition the man is just that.
GOOD i don't, know there's nothing you can.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
DO i, mean you want to talk about the starting
power forwards today or centers before the other?

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
Ones you can name me any power for? You won't
he giveing them the business? Centers?

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
Okay today's centers Are Jared, Allen Nick, Claxon, Drawl, Embiid Draymond,
Green jalen The, Jaylen Duran DeAndre, Ayten Who's phoenix Is. Hartenstein,
okay let's do some. Names we Got, Haquem we've Got Patrick,

(01:50:12):
ewing we Got, shaq we Got Alonzo, morning got the
Ken bi mc tumble and he got a. Point Steven
adams obviously is on this center era than we Have.
Sagoon you got more for. FOUR i think this year
he's playing for who else we have in the? Fives

(01:50:33):
back you Got, bam you Had David robinson back in that.
Anthony but but listen to the names we. Mention compared to,
today there's more Names, Shaq, Hakeem David, Robinson Patrick, Ewing Alonso. Morning.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Names though it's more top. Heavy there's more top heavy
than fucking Wimby yo kids.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
Embiid And bead's not really playing right. NOW i mean he's, there, Okay, Bam, Duran.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
Yes you were talking About shack the best center of.
EVER i think we all, Say, Okay Patrick, Ewing Alonso.
Morning i'm not putting up there with an Of morning
was a fucking. Issue he's Not he's not. Inbid he's
right there with me With he's.

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
Not up there with those.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
Guys he's not, comparable but he's J, duran you got
three guys there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
Elite, okay let me go look AT i agree with.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
That let me look at the centers of the two.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
Thousands Dwight, Howard i'll put him. Up he's above a
mom the.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Morning Ben, wallace.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
Defender's Ben.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Wallace he is very, good but he's he up there
with The White. Howard Marcus camby was, elite but he's
up there With Jeleen. Duren he's not up there with those.
Three but yao Ming jermaine, O'Neill i'm talking about Just.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
Y i think yolks one cook fucking a.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
Morning but but his question was not the, cook he
said the lack of talent at the center. Position there's
not as much talent as there used to. Be so
if you look at the early two, thousands there's a
lot more, guys not, guys but there's a lot more.
Centers AND i THINK i agree with. Him Pow, right we're.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Taken twenty years of how many years are you going?

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
Back?

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
Though, well just looking at, that let's look at the
last ten years worth of centers from twenty fifteen compared
to maybe the last ten maybe ninety five to two
thousand and. Five we can look at, that, right A
Mecca oka verst part of. THAT i mean they were.
Young But David, ROBINSON i didn't even Say David. Robinson
he's in that class, Right, ray he's in that shock.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
Class.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
NICE i think you can Throw Tim duncan there because
he played the. Center if you want to, throw if
you want to throw a thing there, kg if you
want to just talk LIKE i don't, KNOW i think
jokers just as the. LEAD i. DON'T i don't think
that's what the. QUESTION i think they're saying the lack
of competition at the center is just not as strong
as it used to.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Be, well.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
There's no REAL i would say to that question is
there's a lot of, centers but they got weeded. Out
you're not making anybody up back to the basket center
anymore like you're if you're back to the basket. Center
whoever trying to go train these motherfuckers is telling you
you can't beat that no, more or you're not gonna

(01:53:31):
be in THE.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Nba AM i? Wrong if you can't shoot a, jumper
you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Playing zach is probably one of. Them he's probably one
of the last last.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
One so like you're you're sitting, here there's no really
that many back to The basket players. Anymore those are
weed it out like if it was still back to the. Basket,
Bro i'm telling, You i've seen, it. Bro Jelil okrapher
was a fucking. Issue back to the. Basket, yeah but
he had to change his. Game was born in two.
Thousand he had to he.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Had to change his. Game you see What i'm. Saying
there's a lot of guys that are now that you.
Are you have to be pick and, roll, athletic, big
roll to the rim and fucking be able to shoot
or you ain't playing like saying good back to the
basket is, shoot but this nigga got shoot. Threes now.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
You gotta put the ball on the floor and ship
like the game has involved so, yes it's probably not
like it used to. Be floppy POST i was right
before right after my, rookie my rookie, year all that
ship went. AWAY i ain't heard floppy. Pole, no actually
that might have been fucking yeah before. That how many

(01:54:46):
times you wrun floppy posts, right come off that down,
screen you throw it right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
To the post, Man.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Charlotte that's a long.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
Time it's a long. Time the game is just involved.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
Fifteen.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
Years, yeah it was way BEFORE i got to the
league BECAUSE i RAN i was running that shit in.
Camps they had us running floppy in, camps AND i
was just like.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
Fuck, also we do all a lots of morning. APOLOGY
i didn't want to say anything until actually pull. Lush i'
see average twenty and ten for like eight years in
the scrip shit and average three blocks three four, BLOCKS
a lots of Morning you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Don't get a. Twist, YEAH i got a twisted and.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
You got to. TWIST i THOUGHT i remember, them but they,
no we remember the old lawns of the morning after it's.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
Kinney, YES i saw the old. One that's on. Me
that's on.

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
Me the original the morning was twenty and ten for
for eight. Years but you want to bring us out shouts.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
By the, way shout out to. Oasis, UH i need my, package, Man,
yeah shout Out. OASIS i need my. Package, seriously let's
get it. People we appreciate the love. Today we'll be
back here, tomorrow same, time same. People Me hong and
Rape Uh, thursday we have the whill here with us
and uh tomorrow same time eleven o'clock to one eastern

(01:55:58):
and then twelve o'clock to to eastern east Of Time.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
Oasis we appreciate. You the twist.

Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Insane what's twister?

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
PINCING i don't even fucking, know but that's. Insane we
appreciate the love.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Man we'll be. Back we out peace