The Knicks are STILL doomed? Will Ant and the Wolves take all the momentum and more

Is SGA the greatest Thunder player of all-time? How does OKC respond after get blitzed. Are the Knicks back in the drivers seat and has the pressure moved to INDY? Kudos to Thibbs making the adjustments and tapping into his bench. Do either of the Thompson twins have a shot at Team USA in 2028?

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yeah, what's good party? People?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It is Memorial Day and we have a special edition
of To the Baja. It's all that special and.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
We're working on Memorial special were working on and we're
working work.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
But the special one is what we're working but they
don't know that. But they both to find out right now, Yo,
everybody p s a. We both to do it to
the Baja after dark at Charlie's crib.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Look beyond the people from when that's dropping.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I don't know about.

Speaker 5 (00:36):
Can you hear us?

Speaker 6 (00:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Right, can hear us?

Speaker 6 (00:43):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (00:44):
We can hear you, and you answer our question? Can
you hear us?

Speaker 6 (00:49):
I said, Okay, how's New York? Bro?

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Oh, he's in New York.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's why he looked like I saw square Garden thing.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know, we doing
big things out in New.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I see that telling people, I said, what's up?

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Ain't rocking with you? They ain't rocking with you? They said,
ain't rocking with you?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
How scary were you in the third quarter that y'all
boys are about to get swept?

Speaker 6 (01:20):
Man, it was looking scary in that first half. It
was looking very scary. But you know, cat did his thing.
You know, can't stepped up in the second half, took
over the game.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
You sure did, South Dominican.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Shut up, shut Jersey.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
So we definitely gonna get to the next series. But
just so everybody knows, as of next week, we will
only be streaming onto the Baja. I'm dropping the link
right now in the chat. Make sure you head over
and subscribe. You will only find us there moving forward.
We appreciate everybody from running race, but we will be
moving to the Baja.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Let's get to.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
Yes, yes, sir, baby, were moving forward. We're moving up, baby,
We're moving up in the world.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yes, before yeah, and don't forget it. Look like Hank said,
we're gonna have to the Baha after dark. I'm putting
them that's coming, and we put them numbers.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
You down with that to Thebouha after dark. It's real motion,
you guys, narratives. You ready for that, right, I'm.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Down with it.

Speaker 7 (02:27):
But now at your house, Oklahoma, good, gracious, urge you.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oklahoma's just so we know, Charlie's pushing his narratives. But
we're good. We're straight, yes sir, yes, sir, But let's
get to the Baja. Feelings.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
It was a lot of great hoops this weekend, and
we will start with the wolves in the okay see series.
It is now two to one series. As wolves came
and thracksed, okay see it was it was. It was
ugly from the jump. They shot so well, it's shot
insanely will and they shine insanely poor.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
What do we see? What do we notice?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
What do we notice with the energy of the timber
Wolves and energy of okay see, did we like notice
what about their body languages? As you can see, I
haven't seen and looked this confident a.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Little bit a lot to you. The timber Bulls was
playing like this was the last game of game seven.
You know who wants to go down through? Oh right,
So they were playing this game balls exactly, kicking the
fall off. They were playing super hard man. So pause again,

(03:39):
dang it, I'm wild right quiet?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, no, no, So Ray go ahead. What were your thoughts?
I know you know, I know you on payroll.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, see in the next what was your thoughts colluding?

Speaker 6 (03:55):
All right, It's okay, I'll stay on payroll too.

Speaker 7 (03:57):
But anyway, get your bread, get your breath. Listen.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
You know I got to but listen, okay, see came
out flat. They came out comfortable. They was real comfortable.
They was up too. Oh and Minnesota came out like
Charlie said, they came out like it was a Game
seven and they wanted missing. They was aggressive. They was
just it was a much win fer them and they
understood that. And the way came out like he was
supposed to as a leader, as the man on that team.

(04:26):
He came out the way he was supposed to. Aggressive,
hitt shots, being aggressive on defense, like just doing what
and do so, you know, shout out to Minnesota. But okay,
see listen, this next game is this game tonight is
really gonna tell everything how this series might go.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
And this is my problem with OKC.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Man.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
It's because they can play two phenomenal games at home
and then all of a sudden that third game they
just you know, lay an egg. But that goes back
to them being young and them just not figuring it
out yet.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
That's just always been my problem with them, man, is
that they played tremendously well for two games. How comingy
can't stack it and do that three in a row.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
So let's build on that, right, That's one of our
points later, they look like two completely completely different teams
on the road in that home right and THEO and
Raybo said it is rocking in there.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Obviously, Charlie, you played a playoff series there as well.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
It just looks like two separate identities because they blow
up Memphis by forty to fifty, then they were down
thirty in the first half.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
What are you guys thoughts on that. I mean, to
build off what Charlie said, I think they're starting to
build a culture for themselves. Like they're still a really
young team. They have to build that culture, that resilience,
and it comes in times like that, like they haven't.
This is the farthest they've ever been in the playoffs
with this regime. So it comes with this territory of

(05:52):
them been tested, and I think they're figuring it out.
I'm I'm not on the side with like, I don't
think they're like a legit team, but I think they
they aren't going to have to figure this out before
if they're going to get to the finals and perhaps
win the finals.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
The only advantage that right now, okay Se has is
that they got home court advantage and they played tremendously
well at home. So it seems like if they continue
this pattern, I mean, it's gonna work.

Speaker 8 (06:16):
Well.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's a good thing is that they literally have home
court advantage for the rest of.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
The playoffs, rest of the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
What are your thoughts, man, last team, last team you
showed up before it was Okay see too, right.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
Yeah it was. I mean, it's definitely a place where,
you know, it's rocking, The fans are amazing, the gym
is electric, you know, but as we all know, you
still got to try to win. When when on the
road to try to win everything, it's gonna be tough,
you know, it's not It's been working for so far,

(06:46):
you know, going to Game seven and winning all the
games at home, but I don't know how long that's
gonna last, you know. And I think to me, when
I saw Okay see before the game and you look
at Minnesota before the game, Minnesota was locked in, nobody
was smiling, nobody was was gooving around. But then you
go to OKC before they ran out before the game,

(07:07):
they was all laughing and dancing and just you know,
having a good time. And that I'm okay with you
being loose and you know, and not like just being
so focused and so locked in that you're that you're nervous,
but at the same time, it's just a level of focus.
It's just a look in your eyes that you're supposed
to have when you in the playoffs and when you
focus and you locked in, and like I said, I

(07:27):
just think, okay, see, was just a little too comfortable
for a game three, and I don't think they'll be
the same way in game four. So that's why I
say the game tonight is gonna be, it's gonna be,
it's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Right real quick?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Do you think something like that is on coaching or
lack of veteran presence in the locker room?

Speaker 6 (07:47):
Coaching ain't got nothing to do with that. You know,
guys out in out in the hallway getting ready for
a game. Coaches are in the locker room. You know,
the coach is not seeing what's going on. And besides,
this is grown men, so you know you gotta be focused,
locked down on your own. But yeah, there has to
be a veteran over there, somebody that understands that. I
would think somebody left Caruso. You know, we'll understanding and

(08:09):
know that and have these guys, you know, locked in
and focusing ready to go. But like I said, they
probably and most likely they will be tonight.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
The night's gonna be an interesting one because Okay, she
got punched in the mouth, so they are coming are
going to come into the game like we don't want
to get punched in the mouth again. So they're gonna
come in with a different type of mindset. They're not
gonna be as relaxed and goofing around like what he said. Yeah,
they're gonna be locked in, but it also is Minnesota, so.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
That's gonna be interesting, doesn't Okay, see typically play more
loose and relaxed, So like, don't you want to just
stick within your rhythm and how you actually approach games.
I don't want to see them just becoming an angry team,
like just because they've lost one game.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
I mean, no, it's not about it's not about being angry.
It's not about being angry, huh, Like I'm not saying that,
but it's still a level of focus, like like you're
supposed to have fun and get you know, be yourself
and whatever, but you know, it's still a little bit
of just you know, you're just a little too relaxed,
like we're good, we got it. So we're just gonna

(09:14):
just dance and we're gonna be laughing and we're gonna
be just doing all this stuff before the game, like nah,
And the playoffs is a little different. You can do
all of that during the season and stuff and be
all lose and stuff, but the playoffs is a different
type of basketball. It's a different level of focus and
lock and lock in. So nah, I can't really do
all that.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Did you see anything different on the way they played though, guys,
Like or is it just you thought they didn't shoot
well enough?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I think they just weren't as physical on the defensive
end as they use it. They come out they normally
come out really physical, and I think that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I think also you know, they got pushed in their
mouth and they kind of just kind of lay down,
just accepted it. Oh we're missing shots, this, that and it.
But it's almost a human nature were up to, Oh
we don't smack them twice. It's almost human nature the
kind of relax a little bit and not be so
locked in that that's hard, bro, And then to do
that on the road. Got understand that. In case he

(10:09):
beat the ship out beat this ship out of Minnesota.
Minnesota's on demon time, you know, in that third game,
so Oklahoma kind of just like lay down.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, I hear you all, but you're not feeling this
not here, y'all.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Okay, Okay, that sounded like you wasn't feeling.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
No, I'm just prossing it all, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
No, no, no, I'm more like that tone.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Was correct the ship, but my fault he felt that way.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
No, because I hear you guys, because it's like it's
just every single game they played on the road after
they've just laid in hag facts like remember they were
down by thirty against Memphis, right or was it forty thirty?
It was thirty until Jah got hurt, got hurt right.
Obviously Denver molly wopped them on the first game at home, right,
So it just doesn't look good for them. And you know,

(11:02):
obviously I have my bet ray a way to call
him out. No, no, it's not call them out. So
you know, I need you guys to be on part
all times.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Get my bread from Ray bro y'all.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Okay, see you locked in, hu, I like it locked.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
In so but anyways, I ain't worry about that.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Ray took a favorable bet. They just need to get too.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
I'm playing with house money, so I ain't tripping you
playing with house money, Damn.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Bro, that's how you feel shots fired?

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Ain't you know what I'm saying? But I win my
last bet. I won my last bet, so I ain't
really tripping.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Hey, you're one for two until the Baja bets. Remember that,
Oh for one against me?

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Right now?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
For one's terrible.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
It's okay. You're scared.

Speaker 7 (11:46):
You're scared of bed though he's scared of that.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
I'm calling it. Honestly, I'm gonna stop betting you. You
know what I'm saying. Why? Because you only take spurts
of bits like I'm a I'm a better. I like
to bet all the time.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
When it's favorable, real game, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Type that favorite Jordan type. How is that favorable? I
said the West is gonna win the five games. That
is not a favorable bat. What are we doing?

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Because you because you bet.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
That's the only time you bet when you feel like
you got a favorite.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
And no, when I feel comfortable with the bat. You
asked me to take a bet on the NIX and
I didn't feel comfortable about it. Listen, y'all cashed out
yet y'all cash out?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's okay, that's so good, said, I haven't received yet,
he shout out to the boy theo though he dropped
another twenty twenty twenty okay, yeah, practice right now, that's why.
That's why he's doing it.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Didn't get into the bar.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
But he ain't winning the kurt over here, but he
ain't winning. Saying back to that, he owing.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
To what was the record before he got there?

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I don't know, but they're not that good from what
he told me. They brought him in to get some dubs,
so let's go.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
For they get dumbs, not yet over time, come back,
come back.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Hey, Charlie, why are you trying to take away from
his bread?

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Trying to take away from come back?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
He ain't getting his bread.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
Come back.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I want to talk to it for another month to
get the rest of it.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
The rest of it.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
He could have run off all the plug run said
run off hey man, New York ship. Right, but seriously, though,
we are we concerned for the thunder.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Though, no.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Thun, there're still in the driver's seat.

Speaker 9 (13:41):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
They got home court advantage even if they lose this game, man,
they still got to go back to Oklahoma. So Minnesota
gotta figure this ship out and they got to win
one on the road. Well, what are our predictions for
tonight's game?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Hold up?

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Hold up?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
So you think you think you're not worried even.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
If you lose this game, Yeah, I'm not worried.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh I'm worried. I'm worried.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah, Oklahoma is playing at home.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Listen, anytime in a row? Are you are you?

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Are you not worried?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Well, first of all, it's hard to beat a team
three times in a row. Clearly we've seen that this
whole playoff series. True, right or wrong, You're right, it
just doesn't happen. So the fact that they lose today,
it's okay.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Is not the end of it.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
But I'm just saying, you gotta still be in Oklahoma
as a competitor, as a basketball player. If you lose
too in a row, you're definitely worried. No, you guys
are worried at all.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
As a young team for your team, I would be
a little bit worried. That's why they pros bro, they pro.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
We can't speak on it. I guess we can speak low.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
He might not be right, but I mean, I wouldn't
say concerned, but I think I think I need to
see something from that. I need to see some grit
from the release tonight for me to be concerned. They
can't play lacksadaisical and non physical how they did in
Game three.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Then they're not going to play. They're not gonna play
like that tonight. They win to lose. But I got,
I got old, I got okay winning tonight, though.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
He we want to put a bet on it.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Hey, you.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Like the bet?

Speaker 6 (15:06):
You like the bet?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Michael Jordan's Charlie.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
What you want to do?

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Minnesota? Soft hunch? Hunch a soft hunt?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay? No points?

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Can I get points?

Speaker 8 (15:23):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Over this guy?

Speaker 5 (15:29):
I'm a negotiating over here.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, he might give.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
He might be like, Bro, you talking about get out
of here?

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Give you.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Real gamblers? Honey. It's on record, all right. So somebody
asking the chat.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Did you guys think they change your scheme defensively or
did they just guard better in general?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Did y'all see anything Minnesota?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
From what I see and I see Minnesota, I think
the first two games seen it somewhere where they were
picking up shade at half court and the adjustment that
they made is now that they're picking them up on
them three. I think that's something that I think changed

(16:16):
the pace of the game and I think obviously it
benefited the Minnesota. So I just think Minnesota finally played physical.
I think they use their height, they actually used their
length and they yeah, oh did they change necessarily, Just
think they were more physically.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
Agree they were. They was the aggressive. You know, at
the end of the day, you know, like Charlie said
earlier on like period, they was, they was. They was
in witch color mode. They was in there. They needed
this game. They knew they had to get this win.
You know, they had to get this win. So new
guys was coming out there. I mean, you look at it.

(16:59):
Somebody was come off a ball screen. I can't remember
who it was, and he just just basically just win
at the ball and Gristling stowed the ball way down. Deducted.
He did that all series see him play like that
on defense off of bass Man.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Shoutouts to the Yeah, he balled out man, he balled
out man. I also like to what the coach did.
It was kind of already garbage time, but he left
him out there. To get his confidence to just keep
you know, keep getting rhythm. They're gonna need that for
me if is just not produced.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
So y'all think coaches need to do that more? Yeah,
because like that's not really talked about in the media today, right,
Like that's something you and Ray can speak on.

Speaker 9 (17:44):
Well.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
I was like, yeah, I need you to get your
confidence garbage minus go there and get a couple of
buckets so you can you can get back on track.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
You gotta understand, we're professionals, bro, We're doing this and
we've done this at the high level so many times.
So as basketball players, once you start seeing that all
go in, I mean, it changes everything. And clearly you
saw Julius saw the ball go in a few times
and now he's smiling, he's playing with unbelievable confidence, and

(18:13):
they din't need that.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I think something else interesting to note is that they
said it gave him like a pep talk before the game,
which I thought.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Was interesting, you know because youngster giving a vent. Have
you like, can you speak to that more?

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Like has that?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Have you ever been a situation where like you've seen
a youngster in the locker room as a leader and
they actually pushed the vet to be you know who
they are.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, absolutely, because at the end of the day, we
all professionals, right, we all understand and know the game.
And sometimes being a good teammate is encouraging. You know,
it doesn't matter who it is. But just adding your
two cents, you know, can help a teammate out, for sure. Great,

(18:55):
you seen that before.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
I've seen that a lot.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
My brother, you know that, you know too many times,
raise older than me by like three months, so I
had to school.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Come on, way, you better than that.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Ray kind of passes that.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Ray fu right, But yeah, I don't care.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
That's crazy, but you know, listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
But the thing about that, though, like we we we
got the mutual respect for each other.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Like sometimes these these young these young kids there, they'll
take that the wrong way, you know what I'm saying,
Like they'll start beefing with each other. But me, I
took that with a grain of salt, like you're right, Charlie,
you're right. My fault, my fault. I'll be better, you know,
And that's just how it goes. But now now they'll
get to beefing, you get to not pass each other ball.
They'll start getting on Twitter and social media, throwing throwing

(19:53):
blows at each other.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like you knows why
it is different?

Speaker 9 (19:58):
Man?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well you have you guys seen J Williams comments on SGA.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Now what he said, We're about to pull it off.
Let's actually check the receipts though. One hundred and twenty
five free throw attempts in thirteen.

Speaker 10 (20:14):
Games, right, wild, mind boggling. Right, unless you're I don't know,
Lebron in two thousand and nine, one hundred and eighty eight,
MJ in eighty nine, hundred and ninety, d wait and six,
one hundred and thirty six, Kobe won forty, Larry Legend
one thirty eight, Magic one thirty four, or I don't
know AI one twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
So basically, Shay is doing.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
What legends have always done, but now it's a problem.

Speaker 11 (20:37):
Cool, So let's just retroactively label MJ as a free
throw finessor or Lebron as a contact connoisseur. How about
D Wade as their original Miami merchant or I don't know.
We can maybe just admit what's actually happening. SGA is
just unguardable, and some books are just mad he's not
doing it with a loudshoe deal or a reality show.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I don't know. Same moves, new era. Stop crying, play defense. Wow, Yeah,
that was a little spicy.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
That was at a little spicy. I wonder who he
was talking.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
To period period?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
You feeling him? What period? Period?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
I didn't. I didn't see ray. We're not getting his
body like seven seven feet in run direction like she does.
I see you play like that.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
You sound like I hater man? You so like you
saw like, I don't give it. Damn what that man
do all his thirty thirty two? How much you average?
Just thirty two points a game with all flocks, with
all free throws. And that's fine, and that's fine. He's

(21:51):
figuring out how to get to the free throw line.
But all them buckets and free throw line buckets, and
that's what we're talking about though, something I had to
respect me but that, But that's what I'm talking about
because everybody complained it about him.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Oh he shoot eighteen free throws, Okay, James Harder used
to do it.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, James.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
So they're comparing, they're comparing obviously Braun and there's numbers
to shay, right, So I don't think anybody has a
problem with on the line.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's just how he goes about Brown was actually actually
getting filed. That's what I'm saying, Brown and waiting the exactly.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's the whole point is that shade. Is he really
getting fouled? That's that's what the argument is about.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
I don't know, he's figuring it out.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Figured it out?

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Who talking?

Speaker 6 (22:35):
Period? And the rest?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Don't You didn't letting him go. That's why you talk.
You gonna understand sg A figured it out. He mastered it, bro,
He mastered the art the flopping, the art of flopping.
So did y'all have a problem with James back then?

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Hell? Yeah, bro, James Harden was on you know.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I mean, do you all have a problem with how
James went about getting his free throws back?

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
So so do you have a problem with the way
she gets his free throws right now?

Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
So that's the point of that respect. I do respect it, but.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
You're figure that ship out because if I can use
the same ship to my advantage, I will use it.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Do you all have a problem with how Chris Paul
would just obviously stop on a dime and get a
foul on one of your guards are bigs.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
It's part of the game, bro, to play defense. Gotta
like gotta adjust, gotta adjust.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
Its smart, it's smart.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
You think we will have I think I think that
the way they can.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
Play, the way they could plain and ship.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
God damn, so yo, do you all missed the the
miss the swipe up role? Like if you're actually going
to shoot in motion, someone's lazy put their hand out.
I actually think that that should be going to the
line for shots. That should be and that's just being
that's actually rewarding laziness.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Not but yes and no, because I'm going off for
a shot, am I. You can't put your hand out,
then that's what you're saying basically, right, you.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Gotta be quick if you lift up, you gotta be smart.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean it's tough.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Hand gotta be on the ball.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's tough on the ball.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
Your answer fall out.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
But that's what But that's what I'm saying, that that
they'll put your hand out because technically you are in
a shooting motion.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
We we we don't deny that.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
Man, if you ain't bothering nobody, Man, these dudes are
fro you. Man. I'm just saying dudes can score. Dudes
can score. You have to you have to like put
your hand you no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
About that sounded like you was about basketball, now you
You sounded like you was a little bit. It sounded
like your wife I was gonna go for you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Now I hear y'all.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
But shooting motion is a shooting motion. That's all I'm
saying to y'all. Ray makes a great point, But shooting
motion shooting motion. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I think Jay has a point because he puts some
numbers behind it.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Do I like it?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
No, But he has a point.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
What's his but that?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
But it's unethical?

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Hoop?

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Still hold hold hold on What is Jay's point he's making.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
Though, he's saying that, like, stop stop crying.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
And play better and right, But you're the wrong one
to say you on payroll?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Game?

Speaker 6 (25:25):
You are payroll?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
He said, So what I'm on payroll?

Speaker 6 (25:34):
I was?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
But no, the point I think the point he's making
is he's one. He's an mv PC superstar. He's gonna
get those calls, whether whether it's clear or not, if
it's close, he's going to get those calls.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
So you're okay with Jay Brunton smacking himself in the face.
With that was that he wanted m v P.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 6 (25:53):
He's the m v P wheen you ever see, when
you ever see Shane smack yourself in the face. Stop,
Come on, man, I'm.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Gonna find a clip.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
Agreed. That was one of the just like.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
That was woild, that was gregious. I'm gonna go find
a clip.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I'm gonna go find a clip. We're gonna talk about it.
If I don't, then I'll come on Aaron apology.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
And because I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't
think j B even meant to smack himself. No, no,
I don't think I think he was trying to. I
think he was trying to get the foun smacking himself.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
But you know, and the talking about on raised payroll team,
so we can't really talk.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
I wish.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I wish I had that in my arsenal I had
that in my bags when I was playing. I'll be
smacking the funk out of me. Bro't I can't come on?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Come on, not right right?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I feel you. It makes a good point.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
He probably wasn't trying to hit himself with aarony Smith.
He was probably just trying to like him and get
a foul.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yeah, like he bigga gotta smack himself now to get.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Out of go ahead, thinking of some even crazier ship.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I don't think it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
It's that crazy crazy somebody different topic. Let me ask
you all this. Let me ask you all this before
we play any cliff. Who's the best thunder player in history.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
Kevin Durant the best, the best other player in history?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, Kevin Durant.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
Nah.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
If you do a poll right now, they're gonna say Rush,
Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
They don't say Rush Kurt roll the clip.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Russell west Broke. Why the double roll the clip?

Speaker 6 (27:50):
Clip?

Speaker 7 (27:50):
No, if you ask anybody right now and put it.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
In the chat, put it in the chat.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yes, there's a clip, everybody.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Everybody. Everybody is going to say, Russ. I'm telling you
me too.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I mean, either way, those are my one and two though,
KT and Katie and rus like, that's the number one,
that number two. Okay, hold up, hold on, run the clip.
We'll run the clip. The clip is there, klip.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
But anyways, so yo, guys, I I agree with you, Russ.
I was thinking, Katie, but the resumes.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
Are all the greatest thunder of all time. Yeah, the
greatest thunder of all time. He already joined the company
of Michael.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Jordan this year.

Speaker 8 (28:34):
Three consecutive season's thirty shooting over fifty. Now he hoisted
up the MVP trophy. And now he's on his way
to going to the NBA Finals, and he's going to
win the NBA Championship and he's going to become Finals MVP.
And we're watching a young man right now who is
the best perimeter of the player in the game of
basketball on the offensive end. And right now, the way

(28:57):
that he's playing, he's unguardable, is not gonna stop. He's
in the zone. And we heard leadership in that sound. Man,
I don't know what big.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
For you. I can't give him.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
I can't give him that stamp yet. I can't give
him that stamp.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'm sorry, but they give him finals MVP. Is that
what it do?

Speaker 6 (29:20):
It can?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
That'd be their first championship.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
You, Hey, does Kirk got beef with Russell and k D?
Why would have none?

Speaker 3 (29:29):
No, I'm talking about yeah, yeah, you haven't seen k Yeah,
they got they got that. So you think he's gonna
put k D or or Russ.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, but we don't care about what Kendrick says. Were
talking about us?

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Okay, I'm just rolled the clip.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
We rolled the clip because it's a good debate. So
yo ho, So y'all don't even y'all.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Think it's not a good debate. Why not?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Why hold?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
This is a debate show? Y'all have to say, no, no, no,
tell me why Katie took them to the finals.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
But camp, but camp, tell him, tell him right now, Camp,
you don't have to say why we talked about Kevin
Durant right now.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
We gotta say, Look, we can't put them.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
You can't put them in them.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
I'm telling you you can't hit them.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
This crazy conversation.

Speaker 7 (30:23):
Why why I ain't there?

Speaker 6 (30:26):
I ain't there? But why because we're talking about Kevin Durant?
Are you serious right now? But? Ok?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Exactly are you talking about the championships and that thing?
Like let's let's keep it a standard. He averaged thirty
like k a VP like KD. He's led a team
to sixty eight wins. KD led the team I think
it was sixty five. Yeah, he's never taken No, he
hasn't yet. But if he does it this year, why

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is he not greater have the same resident? Is he
not greater than Russ if he gets there?

Speaker 6 (31:02):
But why not? They would not They would not have
the same resume because even though he didn't win it,
win it at OKC, he has two Let's talk about
that to.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
What we're talking about in thunder history, Like when he
was at the Thunder he didn't win none of us
with the Thunder. It isn't the greatest thunder player specific
we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
What she ain't done better than Katie right now?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Right now, I think he I think his career so
far this year is equivalent to Katie's best year.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
That's all I'm saying. His last two years equivalent to
the kti's two best years.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
What was the most at KT in the thunderage in
the Thunder universe, I think like thirty two, thirty two
or something like that. S yeah, average thirty two, That's
what I'm saying. Like it's kind of identical.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
So like I'm not like, let's just not go off Katie's.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Katie's number one is thirty two and twenty fourteen, so
is SHA's Like, let's keep it actually a stack, like
why why don't the numbers add up? I mean, I'm
not saying it's all numbers. I'm just saying, y'all just
saying it because it's Kevin Durant. That's not a good argument.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Okay, So forget Karen Durant. I'm not putting Karen. I'm
putting it's a great it's a great argument, period.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
And I said that here's and here's the difference though
that he h, it's not looking too good for us
if he goes to the championship because Russ never led
to the championship as a number one. So the only
argument number one I have, Katie, how you can't put
so how you put it? This is what I'm gonna
tell y'all. This is where my head.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
No, I didn't say what I think. I think the
greatest th other volts. I didn't think of us. I
was only think Katie. I do think it's Russ. I
do think it's and I think Katie is just ahead
of s g A just because of the pere longevity
of his thunder career. If Shae does this exact same thing,
go to the finals and then plays the same career
the same amount of years.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
It's not different. That's my only point to y'all.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
But I still have Shaye's third because Kevin Durant has
more service than a Thunder Jersey.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
But time so for us, for us right here, right now,
for me and Charlie, for y'all, y'all, put KT in
front of the s c A. But if you go
to thunder fans and you go to you put a
poll out there, they're gonna put s g A in
front of KT. Because of how KT left. That's the

(33:16):
only reason why. That's the only reason why.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Point, that's a good point.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
That's the only reason why, because of how you left.
If you look at what he did there, you look
at what he did there, like you can't give s
g A up her hand Yet I can't.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
And KD is definitely left in OK still right, No,
I don't think something think so damn yes, Russ my
number one.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Russ is my number one. Russ is my number one
even close.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
That's easy for he holds all the records because I
completely forgot Russell like he played for us. No, no,
like when I read this this morning, like last night
and this morning, I only thought KT versus ship.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I completely even think about Russ because I mean, I
think KTI is still a bigger name. So you think
of KT first, yeah, like you know what I'm saying.
And you think of Kd's full body of work for sure,
like you're gonna put his full body work over like
KT is part of the old guard. Russ technically isn't.
Because you know, so she plays eight years and does
this I have, I'm probably putting him over k D.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, because his points are probably gonna be higher, and
he's gonna have the same money. It's not a crazy or.
I'm gonna put him right beside Katie. But now can
I put anybody above Russ? Probably not because his triple
doubles and Russ's legacy.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
And what you wouldn't you bring it your first championship
and you the m v P of that series. That
might be a different conversation, But I'm talking about if
you don't win.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I don't know. If if you don't win, yeah, even if.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
Listen, listen, because of what Russ did there, because of
the love he has there, the legacy he built there,
nobody would be considered a better thunder than him. Now
can you put on a the same level with him.
When if he wins, if they win a championship, then yes,
you could put him up there with Russ. But nobody

(35:07):
would ever be above Russ. He will never be above Russ.
I'm just telling you.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
The first win.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Let me ask you, guys, this.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
Is like the whiskey in Dallas. Russ is like Dirk
the whiskey.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
The first.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
That's what That's what I want to ask you.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
So I ain't gonna compare him to Dirk because you
know Dirk is different. We in Dallas too, and I'm
trying to be good when.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
I go to eat.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Right, Let's compare Vince Carter to Russ in terms of
just like how they in Toronto. He's the first in Toronto, right,
But I think Kawhi is probably considered the greatest raptor
of all time.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Because no, no, for six months.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Anyways, here's my here's my point. Carter's not considered the
greatest raptor of all time anymore. I guarantee you he's not.
But he's He's what Russ is to Toronto. But Russ
is Okay, sees what I'm saying. Wait, that's the only
argument I'm.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Talking about So who's the best Toronto raptor ever?

Speaker 6 (36:04):
To me?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Tomorrow? I mean, I think I think I'm gonna say this.
I'm gonna say this. I'll make the Dallas statement. I
think the Dallas Dallas you can't compare to her because
he won a championship. But that's what I'm saying, like
Luca would. Unless Luca won like two championships and broke
all his records, he would never be considered evening. I
think he's still be considered greater than Dirk.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
So who do you so? Who do y'all think is
the greatest raptor of all time? Is it should be tomorrow? Right?
Like it should be tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
I'm gonna say Vince Carter is my reason. I would
say Charlie LLOI but.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Charlie.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Hey, am I going Charlie. I'm gonna have a Charlie Jersey,
though I might go Charlie. One of my goals.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
I'm gonna say Vince Carter because he put Toronto on
the map. Okay, the whole package. Think about the whole package.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Before I argue that bottle service to the city. What's
what's your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (37:01):
Sup?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
The greatest raft of all time?

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (37:03):
I been saying all day, but what about Chris Chris.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Bos On the conversation.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
We can't do that.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
He's he's not tell you why. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
You've been real disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I tell you respectful. I'm gonnall you why.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Because because his records are all gone and he's not
love there, and he doesn't have the tenure that DeMar does. Yeah,
I put That's what I'm saying to you. If you're
talking about what he did in the Jersey DeMar did more.
Y'all giving VC the nod because VC kept the rap
putron on the map. Damar has most of the numbers.
And and I'm gonna put you on in perspective. Right

(37:44):
if there's no Damar, Toronto might not be.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
In the NBA right now.

Speaker 7 (37:51):
Say that again.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
If we continue to be, if they didn't turn around
the franchise, maybe Toronto's in another city. We were bro
we were bad for so long, from oth Or all
the way to I.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Would say, old fire Hall, you disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Cut up with you right now, hey, Charlie, your team
You know that dude too, Hey, Charlie, Charlie said, m
outright no, let's.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Put the money line at the bottom of.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I'm gonna tell you all this.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Though.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Charlie is one of my favorite Raptors all the time.
He knows that I've told him that his team was asked.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
He knows trying to make it sound better.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
He was asked. I'm not making sound better, I said, Charlie, Raptors,
but team was asked. I got gonna take that.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
So my point is that if we continue to be
bad and the Martin turn around and tweet, don't worry Toronto.
I got us and change the culture with Kyle, there
may not be a Toronto Raptors team and may be
back in Seattle. It may be in Vegas right now,
That's all I'm saying, y'all.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
You know that's some uh records that haven't been broken
in Toronto, right rookie recD Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, you know that you were a good Raptors player.
Doesn't mean your team was good, just making the team good.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I have to run your race clip. I can play
next week where you said we were asked.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
We lost, like the don't do it, Hong, don't do it,
I don't do you are you.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Are record saying the team was trash trash, all right,
that's all I said. That's all I said.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Good on paper though, Yeah, some good individuals for sure
as a team.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
So anyways, that that was my kind of comparison. But y'all, so, y'all,
everybody here Consais is Russ. There's no conversation. I think,
I think, yeah, I think it's Rest.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I think it's you got Russ too, Yeah, I got Rush,
b Ray, you got Russ, Yes for sure?

Speaker 1 (39:40):
All right, Cool.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I don't understand why people forget about Rush and they
don't understand k s g a Rush.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
That's my faults again, I had I had all the
KT sixes.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
You know what I'm saying, Katie is the most from that. Okay,
kat six ran in the streets.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Really, Katie sixes one of the greatest basketball shoes, like
my in my area, people love the KT six. Yes,
people love the KD Pearls, the black history. KT six
is the Ligers. Okay, cool, that's a great What's your
favorite hoops of all time? What favorite shooting?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Hooking all the time? He looks so confused. He's saying,
Katie six is some of the best shoes all times?

Speaker 5 (40:22):
Is not rocking?

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Is not rocking O KDS, go ahead, what you want thunderpapers,
that's but.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
That's why I was like, what, man, Man, I have
my own shoe deal.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
Man ain't wearing nobody else sneakers.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
From child Man?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Oh I didn't know had his own?

Speaker 6 (40:39):
No, no, no, no, I said, I have my own
sneaker deal. I meaning I'm not wearing no ktis, I'm
not wearing that. I don't wearing nobody sneakers. I'm wearing
them on, wearing Adidas.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
And I wasn't all right, let's let's stop favorite all
time bro.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Whatever, whatever whatever I put on, whatever I put on
my feet.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
He's still on.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Right, what's your favorite?

Speaker 6 (41:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (41:10):
Right?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Playing barefoot? That's crazy? What's your time?

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I don't got a lot though, I'm gonna be honest,
so obviously I'm a big Jordan's hand. Love me some Jordan's.
But I had a Nike deal. I know, Jordan's and Nike,
same same company. But I like the night the Nike shocks,
Vince Carters, you like the shots.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Those things are heavy as hell.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Nah.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
The ships was fire, bro.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
When they first dropped that navy blue with the white joints,
you know them ships was hot.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Those was tough. I know, I know about.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
You.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
Remember the Nike up tempos with of course.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Like us man, that's that's the best time to me.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
I love those.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
Shoeses, rochies fire.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Who had them joints? I won the national championships.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
With them joints.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
You want a national championship.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
On the biggest you know, you know, you know what
you're about with the strap.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
You ain't never beat killed, You never beat killing.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
This nigga.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
My fun my fault, my fun my fault.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Opening up my wounds over there. You're lucky you over
there in New York. Right now, we might have had
a squabble real quick.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
Charlie.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Yeah, I'm on some fighting ship.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
You both got one.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Yeah, we both do, got it?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Natty Champs got four? Rate oh five? That's what's up?

Speaker 6 (42:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (42:49):
The fifth? You got yours first.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
I got my?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, I got my first. How you feel about that?

Speaker 6 (42:54):
Did I got? I don't. I don't feel no way
because I got mine too. I mean, but guess what, though,
ain't Sureley has he ever beat me in college?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
You know he hasn't.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I know that's on wax, that's.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
On my fault.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I apologize, right, he got that over me last thing,
bring us in last under subject the p G SHA trade.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Is it the worst of all time?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'll tell you guys, what they game up? Okay, I
got you right now?

Speaker 6 (43:31):
What you mean?

Speaker 9 (43:31):
Why?

Speaker 7 (43:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Right right, Charlie, let me all the stats. It's pretty egregious.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Let me listen. Hit him with it.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
S g A the Neilo Gallinari.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Four first round picks four, okay, then a Miami first
round swam right there?

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Who was one of those first fourth one of those picks.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I don't know, but forget that. Don't look at hindsight.
But don't look a hindsight.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Let's just look at the price tag, right Sorry, it's
five first round picks and then there's two swaps. So
basically five picks and two swaps, and that's a that's
a lot to ask for for PG.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
He was and PG was worth all of that being.
Are y'all serious right now? PG was playing m v PASS.
I was. I was in ok C with PG at
that time. He was playing v P basketball. He was up, No,
because I saw it.

Speaker 7 (44:23):
He was up for m v P when I was
there with him.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
And you're talking about that year that they got he.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
Was hooping, he was bolling, so like it was a listen.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
I mean, that is a lot, but you know you're
talking about a player that was that was up there
at that time, like PG was like caliber.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
I love PG, but he was high caliber.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
I mean, I mean when you look at it now, yeah,
but you know when you when you're going to get
a high level player like that, you have to give
up things like that. I'm just telling you because SG
a was a young dude that was up and coming,
Like you can see that he gonna be talented, but
nobody thought was going to be like he is.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Now do that trade again? Hold, let me make the
stat hold on, it's the worst.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Its something looking at.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
No, he's gonna say the Luca trains wars. Yes, no,
it's not.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
It is.

Speaker 7 (45:24):
It's not the worst ever, but it's worse than that
trade s.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
G A J dub And they still got three more picks,
so what so what how that worked out for them
their picks? Now that worked out for OKC, I mean
how that worked out for PG? Having PG on the.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Clippers, you mean they was bawling, it was doing good.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
They just had injuries.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Your Ra's right, I'm with ray you on this one.
There C B, C B.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
They You don't think they had injuries. Kawhi was hurt.

Speaker 7 (46:00):
If you put PG, a healthy PG and Kawhi on
the court with each other and they healthy, you you're
not rolling with that.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
No, I'm rolling with it.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
It's just PG hasn't worked for in the past what
five years?

Speaker 6 (46:14):
Oh wow, he's said five?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
That is PG just year?

Speaker 6 (46:22):
Did year?

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Did years ago?

Speaker 6 (46:27):
Yes? He did? What were you talking?

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Three for four years?

Speaker 6 (46:32):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
He had one bad year this year, last year. You
tweak it out.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
I'm tweaking and tweaking.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
He had a bad yard field.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
You tweak it and you said to I might would
have let that slide. But five is four?

Speaker 6 (46:45):
Four?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Still crazy?

Speaker 6 (46:46):
Four? All right?

Speaker 4 (46:47):
I got one for you guys in the chat, y'all
enough to know about this is a twenty four year
old Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond when he is older
and otis Thorpe.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
That's the worst trade.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
I think the first Carter trading, the Vince Carter trade,
might be the worst of all time. Yo, low key,
That's what I'm trying to tell y'alls.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Not the worst, bro.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
We got alongs of morning that didn't even play in Toronto.
Eric and Aaron Williams and like one pick. I think.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
That's the way word they blew all. Dan signed with
the Lakers. He get traded, he signed. I think they
send him. He didn't play even year, he played like
half few games. The context is the worst trade, There's
no way that's the worst trade of all time. It's
not the worst trade of all time. Like we can't
talk about that. You're gonna say it's the worst trade
about Charlie and t J.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
Ford.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I hated to see you, but that was a good
trade for both teams.

Speaker 6 (47:36):
You up.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I never liked to squabble up.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
They needed a point guard.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Wait you ever get traded.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
For?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Show was in the mellow deial.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
No, he was.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Talking today, Charlie.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
Charlie, Charlie definitely definitely out there. Yet you no not there,
you buddy, hold up right for the people.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
You've told the story before. But technically you were because
you weren't supposed to go. But then they demanded you
or something. Right, you were like the last piece.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Yeah, yeah. George called George called called back and said
we want to want to want to reel to that deal,
And I was like, damn, what happened when Mellow came
to New York and we all went to different me Whiston, Taylor,
Gallinari and Tim and fay Moska. We was falling and

(48:36):
I'm falling.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Technically was a thrown because he was the last piece,
but not because he was bad, just because he was.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
They just wanted him at the last No, no, I was.

Speaker 6 (48:46):
I had all star numbers. I was. Somebody got hurt.
Somebody got hurt. No, no, no, no. I had to
let you know because you was like, you know, I
was a throwing so you know, you know, so.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Ray from uh right from the chat. They want to
hear about your meet up with the Wrizzler.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Oh yeah, how was that?

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Oh you tell him?

Speaker 7 (49:10):
Yeah, hey, tell you tell the chat. Tell the chat
is right here, here we go.

Speaker 6 (49:17):
But it was cool. It was good.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Forty years old, right.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Hey listen, madam man for the keys man, he's a
little kid, he said, this time for a little kid man.
He's a little kid man, he's a nine year old.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I feel you, I feel you, he said. For the kids, man,
I said you, he said, he getting don't learry about it.
I feel you right for the kids read for the people,
for the people, the people.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
He shot Shorty got at nine years old.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
It's crazy, at nine years old he has an entourage.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
No, it was his pops man and some of his
pops like pops.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he got it. I mean he got me.
He's not got attackerself.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
I think it's a minor exactly.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
Imagine that. Imagine that.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
All right, let's get to while we speaking on New York.
You know what I'm saying. We're speaking on New York.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
You already. I love this one.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Hey, I just went straight to the third quarter. By
the way, guys, no first quarter highlights. Hey, hey, I mean, look,
I'm gonna say shout out to Cat. I was talking
so much about Cat the first three quarters.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Okay, I was.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
I was.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Miles played pretty well too, from what I.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
Saw Bride make. McBride sparked that run. Though. Let's go ahead,
get my boy McBride, McBride some love making Bride spark.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
That run him, I would say, him and him and
uh OG's defense was playing.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Josh Hart's rebounding to gotta get you, gotta get.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
It was it was really the other guys. I would
say that the other guy sparked it. I think Cat
scorn wise.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
Him.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
That was a big shot.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I would say Cat scoring wise, you know, let them
let the way. But it was the other guys who
did the dirty work though. Yeah, and even so, like
I know, they didn't win, but Tyree still hit some
big shots though. Yeah he's clutched bro, I mean he's
in Pascal to there. Guys hit some shots. Yeah, I
think it was the lack of Indiana's other guys going

(51:37):
to I didn't like that shot.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
Rebound, Yeah, that's game, big free throw.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah. Were they having some watch party at MSG or something?

Speaker 6 (51:52):
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
What was the atmosphere?

Speaker 6 (51:55):
Like? It was crazy and especially when Cat made that
made that push, it was nuts and it was almost
like it was it was a real game.

Speaker 7 (52:03):
It was crazy.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
It was fun though. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Yeah, you know, who's my m v P again, besides
Cat Tim.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
I know you're gonna say Tims. I let's play the
clippable Tims. Let's play the clive on Tims while we're here.
One of our loyal fans, Dre, just asked for it too.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
There's only one.

Speaker 7 (52:21):
Guy on the Indiana side and double figures and he
comes off the bench.

Speaker 12 (52:24):
Well, you know, first of all, before we go to
the pictures, they're very fortunate. The next they're going that
five zero run and I'm you know the other thing,
You're surprised that, you know, Tippoo wouldn't play nine guys
in the baseball game.

Speaker 13 (52:36):
So like they, I'm surprised at mars Rise that he
has done that.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, Tim said, look now I ain't losing my job
over this ship. Yall can play.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
I feel like, you know what's crazy with the New
York fan base man is that they give Tim some
heat because he only plays a certain amount of players,
five players, and then he goes to the bench and
they're like, oh, why he has Camon painting at a
certain time, and why he has this player and then
now it finally works. It's like, Okay, Tim looks like

(53:16):
a genius, but he actually because he actually worked where
you know, Tims played, played his bench man, he needs
to play his bench boinn.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
I agree, he needs to have more faith in him.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Like I said, the other guys were the one who
sparked it, Like you said, Andry Shaman Shaman right McBride, I.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Mean heart taking came off the bench.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Heart came off the bench and it was the other
guys off the bench who really sparked the run. I
mean it was their guys who closed it out, but
the other guys got them to that point. I think,
bro we even saw the long right Sightingzy Wild said.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Who is that?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I forgotpect no, no, no, no, no, I know who
he is.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
But when I saw him on the court, yea, oh ship, hey,
for I didn't even know who's on the team for
the chat?

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Is Charlie Good in New York?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
For the chat?

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Is you talking about?

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Look the way he moved today, he probably is gonna
be good. I'm good and New Yorker right now?

Speaker 5 (54:17):
You feel me? My Dominican New York are right now?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
When we take a little goal for this weekend. Anybody
said from New York?

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Where you from? From Queens, Jamaica?

Speaker 5 (54:29):
I'm not from Jamaica.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
The other guy said he from Jamaica.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Guy, Yeah, and was that good?

Speaker 5 (54:34):
You're good?

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Do you feel me?

Speaker 6 (54:35):
You're good?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
All right? What is Dallas though?

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Is Dallas?

Speaker 12 (54:38):
Though?

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, you're good, You're gonna be good at Maxis Dog
but not let's but let's let's give let's give cat
his flowers. Though you know he had four points leading
into the going into the fourth he had he had
like twenty something and came and had them come back
from a twenty point definicit.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
That's why I'm wepping right now to Dominic my Dominican
journ I played him FEBA. I mean, I had a
big shout out to Cat. You know, he had a
legacy game. Odam, yeah that you know.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
The first three quarters looked kind of scary for him.
It didn't look good at all.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
And in that fourth quarter he turned up and he
put the team on his back and was showing you
the whole bag, you know, the inside outside the three
talking trash. He looked good man. He looked good man,
and big shoutouts to two Cat. And I like to say,

(55:34):
because I've seen him, he gave a little shout out
to his moms because it was Dominican Mother's Day yesterday,
So shout out to his mom's top. That might have
had something to do with it when he played with
a little extra chip on his shoulder, but he played well.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Do we think that him getting benched the other night,
do we think that that brought something out of him?

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Let's take ray, what did you think of Cat, What
did you see?

Speaker 6 (56:05):
I saw the Cat that I've been waiting to see
for the last two games that I've been waiting to see,
even last series. Cat is a big man that can
go inside it out. Cat can go off the dribble,
Cat can shoot the three, Cat can post up. He's
a dominant force. But I think they take a back
seat to Jalen so much and put so much on

(56:28):
Jalen's back that you know, even with Jalen, sometimes you
got to use what you've got. Bro. You got some
guys over there, so throw that ball, get you some
resks sometimes get up all the Cat and like Cat
do his thing, because to be honest with you, Miles
turning them can't guard him over there. They can't do
nothing with Cat and the way he played last night,
if Cat does that, And I'm not just saying that
because y'all say I'm on payroll, like they're not going

(56:51):
to be able to beat the neck saying like they're
gonna they're going to they're going to beat Indiana because
they have no answer for Cat. They really don't. And
then you can see that last night they have no
answer to him. So I hope he keep playing like that,
So I.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Don't we're gonna speak on the next show in theo's back.
But you know they're they're they're one and two in
the class of class of fifteen, right, Miles and Cat.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
So they've been going at it since they were kids.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
So I would love to hear kind of fuse opinion
on like what that was like when they're younger and
where it is today. But they've been going at it
since they were kids, bro, Because they were number one
and two in the twenty fourteen class are one A.
Cat was number one, Miles was number one. Yeah, Miles
was like two or three. He was pretty much two
or three swapping through the whole year. But yeah, that's
a battle that's been building for years, bro. So it's

(57:43):
cool to see like kind of things come full circle.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
I remember Cat was spanking ship.

Speaker 7 (57:47):
Out here when I was I was wow, he was one.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Yeah, it's crazy, wow wow, Yeah he was. Let's say
he was dominating. He was dominating.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
He's there.

Speaker 7 (57:59):
You go, what's a word crazy? Is crazy?

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Nah?

Speaker 7 (58:04):
Spinking ship damn yo, that's the.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Dark power by fuel. But yet, no, that's that's a
good story. I didn't know I didn't know that. I
did not know that the next was Cat and Heart's
benching the right move where I want to start with you.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
I can't say if it was right or wrong, but
all like I said is we got the win, so
right now it looks right and I wouldn't change anything up.
I would keep it the same, bitching Cat because that
makes him, you know, be like, Okay, I need to
step up, Coach bench me for a reason. He feels
like I'm not producing, So next game, I'm gonna step
up and I'm gonna produce. He did so to me,

(58:47):
it was a good bitch. And then bringing you know,
Mitchell Robinson to start the game off. They've been getting
off the slow starts this series, so you gotta switch
something up. So I think it was a good move
by Tim's showing that he can't make adjustments, showing that
he will do some things differently. And Mitchell Robinson is
not a bad start. You know, Mitchell Robinson is a
force on the on the boards. He's a great defender.

(59:10):
I feel like he can go on one through five. Yeah,
he can go one through five, you know, officially, you know,
he can only give you a dunk and a dunk
and alive threat. You know that's cool. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
But I do like how patient he was with the
ball though.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
I think I think I think it was a good
I think it was a good move overall. I think
I think what Tims did, it worked and it got
us a win.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
I'm a ray on that one. I think it was
a great move.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Playoffs is about making adjustments and and if you make
the right adjustments and it works, change it right. And
I think he also gave the bench a little bit
of firepower having a heart come off the bench, because
I think the Knicks was lacking some some presence. And

(01:00:01):
now that you have heart coming off the bench, and
now these other guys are getting some minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
I think it's beneficial for the soho who y'all got tonight?
I mean not tonight, but tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
God, you know who I'm rolling with. Baby, I'm shouting
shout out to New York because I'm from New York.
I gotta put this out there because you know I'll
be getting killed, y'all be killing me on social media.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
But I got Indiana, Baby, I got Indiana. Think about it,
think about it, hold on, listen to me, right, they
are at home.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Listen to me, right, hold on, let meet, let me talk,
let me talk.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
They are at home. They are at home.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
And if you look at the patterns on it's been
all throughout the playoffs and numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
You gotta look at the numbers. Any team that's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Too oh, up to oh, they always lost the third
game and then that fourth game. They always responded, that's
not true. What you mean, it's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Every single team that's playing in game three loses it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
No, no, no, and this year and any team that's
gone up to oh and this and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
This all the time, listen to history.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
I did not say history. I said this year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Okay, okay, this player, come on home.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
This playoff serious.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Any team that's gone up to oh, that third game
they always lose and then game that fourth game to
go up.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Indiana has been there before.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Indiana's been doing it all through out Milwaukee, fucking Cleveland,
and now they're gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
Do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I think this sounds like something.

Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
What do y'all think the Knick's gonna changed that ship?

Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Not happening. Pops back in the then put some money.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
You put some money on.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
What you put some money on?

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I don't have a fight in this thing. I'm just saying, well, fight,
I don't know, I don't know. It's probably today. So
so you think it's done for five or six? What
do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
I think I think it goes to six. I think
Indiana wins the next one and the next one, the
next one home.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
And then it calls the sixth rate. But who you what?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You got seven nicks?

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
I got.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
You got nix and seven on the payrollt.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
I just know this is a fact. I'm a numbers guy.
I'm just the numbers guy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
You're not the numbers guy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
I'm a numbers guy when it comes to numbers. I'm
a numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Guys to sing like me some numbers now in basketball?

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
I do for myself.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Now on the court, are you numbers got on the court?

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
I'm a numbers guy. The numbers on line?

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
What did say?

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Women? Line?

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
There? You go?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Numbers don't women line? Men die women, I mean, numbers don't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
But check me out though, listen, New York plays better
on the road. Yeah, seven to one, seven to one,
and still record at home three and five. It's nast
like that, and they got okay, and they got home
court advantage. That's all I'm saying. She allieviate that right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Let's talk about the Ray, Charlie. How y'all feel about that?
How are you worse at home than on the road.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
You know it happens. I understand it. Ray, Come on,
you understand it too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Now you're in the crib, you're chilling, you're relaxing, You're comfortable,
you got your wife, you got your kids.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
You're a little more not as locked in right on
the road. You all we got business.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
We all we got and then you got a hold arena,
talking ship, talking crazy and we know as athletes that
kind of rolls us up. Get us going back home.
We're a little more comfortable, you know what I'm saying.
So I can see why that's that's been happening in
this uh playoff series.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Corse, you don't see you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Know, I mean, like, of course home crowd, Bro, at
the end of the day, they gonna get you. This
is anyways, Ray, what are your thoughts, Bro?

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
I'll go, hey, you kept going, keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
They want to hear the pros, right, want to hear
from you. They want to hear from the pros.

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
You got nothing, Bro, I mean obviously you know I
think it's you know, it's a little crazy that they're
better on the road than they are at home. But
what I will say, that could be a good thing too,
because we all know they're going to win games at home.
So if you are really good on the road, I mean,
I think that's in your favor. So I'm gonna leave
it at that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I'm not really.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I am not.

Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
Of course, of course he ain't. He going against everything
against New York and that's crazy to me from it,
that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
The Knicks say the Knicks, say new York. You're fan,
don't say New York.

Speaker 6 (01:04:48):
He's a this city. This city is the Knicks. This
city is the Knicks. They love the Knicks, and you
know that. So you're talking crazy about the Nicks. You
talk crazy about New York City.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Don't say that, right, I don't say that, Nah dogs.
I got a whole right arm dedicated to New York,
tattered all by New York bro.

Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
I ain't got Nick on it. I ain't got the
Knicks on it. I got the mad You ain't got
the Knicks tattoo.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
I got the that's the Rangers. Hey, come on, listen,
you gotta listen. I gott.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
I give shot shout outs to New York because I
was born and raised in New York, but I also
my home is in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I hear you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
So I got this, Joe love the Texas respect.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
I was asking the question that's it, and I answered it,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Charlie's all one.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
Today with it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Hey, But I mean I got the I got the pacers.
One of the next one. I do think it goes
to six?

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
You think do you think it's done in six?

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
Man, we've seen this pattern before. That's just why Indiana does.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
So I'm gonna transition into into something. I think it
is Indiana's fast breakpoints. In the first half, it was
like eighteen to zero. The Knicks found a way to
stop it. But I don't know they can consistently stop there.
They can those You know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
What the game plan should be, Man, if I'm New York.
If I'm New York, I should go down twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Cut his mic off.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
Bro the different different when they go down to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Bro, why you to put yourself in the whole twenty points? Bro?
I mean every time they go down twenty, they beat
the Celtics. Every time they got down twenty. Anytime they
go down twenty, they performed true false.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Yes, you're right, aren't your numbers got You're right?

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
They do all right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
So what I would say is look at the numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
So when I said they could stop them, I think
what ray building on rays point? Give the ball the cat,
let him get some stuff down done, down low.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
So they can't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
They don't get long rebounds from three point shots. Play
through the post. That's how you stop the fast break.
That's how I would play. If the fast break is
what's killing you, I play a slower game. The Knicks
have the personnel to play a slower game.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
They do, but you gotta understand it, Deanna. I mean,
that's their DNA.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
The DNA has always been fast paced team, right for sure,
and that they play into what they're good at to
they strength and nixt if you want to play that game,
and Danna is better at that game.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
But that's what I'm saying, slowed down, that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
If I'm the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yeah, I mean, hey, Tims, I hope you listen, because yeah,
if they was first half, they was running the ship
out of them boys.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
It was eighteen zero fasts. Yeah, they went crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
So I mean, so should the next change anything?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Right, You got any thoughts on that, the next change anything?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah, you got any thoughts on the fast breaking aspect
of it, any transitioning.

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
Indiana is definitely the better the better team at it
for sure. You know that's what they do. That's what
their offense is. Get the ball up and down the court.
Fans score quick play a lot of picker roll, make
your defense move a lot. But I just think it
comes down to grid. I think it'll come down to toughness.
I think I'll come down to execution, taking care of

(01:08:02):
the ball, because one thing about it, if you turn
up all over against Indiana, you're in trouble. They're getting
the ball out quick and them guys running the floor,
they're running their lanes.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
You know, that's when they are very dangerous.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
So you know you have to take care of the ball.
You have to definitely slow down in some cases because
you know, I mean New York played with a fast
pace too. You know they have the person there for
that as well, But they can't outrun anyand of the
whole game. They can't. So that's when you use your
advantage like a guy like Cat, you know, like Jaylen
Brunston who's very good in the half court as well.

(01:08:35):
So I don't know, Like I said, I got, I
got my Knicks getting it done. After what I saw
last night, they put they put what you called them
on their back feet. Now they put some pressure on Indiana.
And I don't think they had no pressure this series.
This whole time, They've been feeling good, but now they
got pressure that they have to win this game. And
then the Knicks, you know, knowing they need this game

(01:08:56):
as well. But I still feel like the pressure is
moral any to get this win rather than lose it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
I will agree with Ray, the pressure is definitely on
Indiana at least get one at home.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
The girls get one at home, and I think Indiana
will get it done the rest of the series.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Y'all got.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Playing for y'all both play for Rick. His teams have
always ran right. I love Rick.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
I love the way his coaching style talk about low key,
low key. Indiana's kind of like the twenty eleven very similar.
I mean, they don't got like a star player like
in Dirk, but they have all the pieces, the right pieces,
and RC has been here before, so that's why I

(01:09:45):
give the edge man to Indiana, the solid team.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Man, very solid.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
I don't think there's a single person in the world
that thought Indiana be in the finals.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Agree, and they're pretty close to it. But what's crazy
is they went to the Eastern Conference finals last.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
Year, you know, but that's not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Wait wait, listen, and they lost because who got hurt.
Didn't halliburn get hurt?

Speaker 6 (01:10:13):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Did he? I thought he was good.

Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
He got hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
He got hurt. No, I think that Mathering Mather was
the one that got hurt. I don't think Halliburnon got hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
Indiana wasn't wasn't healthy all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Put it that way.

Speaker 6 (01:10:27):
No, they wasn't. They wasn't. But at the end of
the day, though, like me and THEO said this, that
nobody's talking about Indiana, and Indiana is a very dangerous team.

Speaker 7 (01:10:36):
I didn't have them to win it. I ain't lied
about that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:39):
I did it. I didn't have them to go this far.
But I did tell y'all that there was a problem
for Cleveland, that if they meet Cleveland in that second round,
they might beat Cleveland, and look look where they're at now.

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
So he did not play right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Come on, don't play me, Bro, I don't remember that.
Don't try to play with Halliburn. It was hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Come on, Probab stopped watching when he got hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
Yes, but let's not forgot you any other fan.

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
You feel me, But.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Let's also just keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Let's also keep it a staff though, right, Let's keep
it a stack.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Everybody had the Boston Celtics making it out. Not a
single person here had the pacers. That's my whole point.
Not a single person had.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
The pace making the not disagreeing with you there because
when the mas is playing, I was like, we gotta
get ready for Boston, That's all I kept saying.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
I think when we saw Indiana beat Cleveland twice at home,
that put the league on notice.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Oh they were pretenders anyways, Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
I know Cleveland, I know you said that from the jump.
Did you said that from the jump? But that put
that put me on notice? Like, oh ship hold up?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I mean if and even like I thought, if if
Indian would have to be in seven not five, I
don't think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Gonna be five, Bro, I think that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
Clan.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I said if I thought that if they were going
to it would have to be in seven, not in
five like how they did it. I didn't think it'd
be five either. To be honest, I hope he would
have been four. But yeah, Loy, I was hoping it's four.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
You know, we know why.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Yeah, your threats.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
The pressure is back on Indiana, man, I mean to me,
I'm super invested in that series, super excited.

Speaker 6 (01:12:15):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:12:16):
I love watching both teams play.

Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I think that series is way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Better than speaking of watching people play. Somebody can join
the building again tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
They freedom, Oh, Pops, Pops, That's what I'm saying. What
they're doing, They know what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
They're gonna bring Pops out there and get the Indiana
patients rolling again.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
Now I'll bring them down the core.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
You gotta stay the sweet. You gotta stay the sweet.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
You gotta stay the sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
You get him banned for life with the Helen.

Speaker 6 (01:12:48):
What Hella Burton, you gotta stay upstairs with it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Yeah, but you know he's gonna get some TV time now.
They gonna showing them, showing them. They're gonna put them
on the Jumbo try and get the crowd going.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
So come on, shout the shout out to mister Halliburton.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Yeah, they free to go.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Y'all got anything before we before we sign off? It
is crazy before we sign off on the playoff basketball?
Uh tonight, who y'all got? We didn't talk about that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
Minnesota. I got Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
No, I don't think they give the actual predition who
they got?

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 7 (01:13:19):
I say, okay see, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
They say, okay see, I'm gonna give it to Minnesota.
I don't mean just because they're home and okay, see,
is not a good road team. I'm gonna give the
adge to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
So you got to to y got three to one?

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I got, I got Minnesota, Okay, so you gonna have
to show me something.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
They gotta show me, show me something.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
But the pressure is on Minnesota because okay, she's gonna
They got punched in the mouth and it's time for
them to respond, and I know they will. So Minnesota
gotta be ready comments going back to to too. That's
my prediction. So you got Minnesota, then we're going back
to to to Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
Three one, that's cool.

Speaker 6 (01:13:59):
I'm cool. I'm gonna ranger. Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Don't don't forget our bet, right, don't you forget it?
Don't forget it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
All right, Now let's get let's get to the Let's
get to the All NBA team.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Are we.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Anyone gets in the No, this is a perfect all
NBA team.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Who's gonna I'm not gonna. I'm not going to disagree
with anybody on here.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Johannis Savage thirty and twelve, Shay Average thirty two yolks
average triple double down, was hooping all year.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Anybody got disagreement?

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
Nothing, No, it's not even somebody you can consider taking.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (01:14:37):
No, But first, this is perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
I mean, somebody might say Jalen or Donovan might be
able to switch, but Jalen got hurt, so like, No, Still,
I don't think the Jalen play sixty five Jalen Brunson,
he did.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
He's on the second team.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
Wasn't Cleveland the top Cleveland team in the East.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
No, I agree with it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
I'm saying somebody might argue Brunson.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Now what about the second team? Do any any shockers here?
Any any snubs here?

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
I think I think Evan Moby being there's a little
shocking thing. Because this is an individual award, this is
not a team award. I don't know if he's the
what do you want to call it the.

Speaker 9 (01:15:15):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
You want to say he's the fourth best forward in
all the year. That's what it's telling me, the top
four forward. No CAT, good year he did, But was
he a top four forward.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
For you all year?

Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
I don't understand why, Ad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Yeah, but I don't think you gotta play sixty five games.

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
That's why.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
That's why I'm not gonna say about Lebron being up there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
That's played sixty five What do you mean Lebron?

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
I'm just asking. I'm going to absolutely should be up there.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
I think he's the only player forty year old to
ever be.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
He's he's the only player to have twenty one.

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
Years on All NBA Team BRO, twenty one years.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Twenty one years out of it's twenty two seasons, twenty
one years he's been on it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Y'all ready for this Cat average twenty four, thirteen boards,
three assists, forty two percent from three fifty three from
the field goal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
You can't tell?

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
How is he not? He's the second team over MOBILEY.
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
I would for sure that that was what I was
confused about this list. I'm not mad at either.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Yeah, everyone else everyone else. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
That's probably what I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
I'm not saying Moble's not deserving from the All NBA team,
but I think if Kat is not on the second one,
and yeah, that should be the flip. I like the
other guys, I think I'm glad they gave James Harden
his files this year. He played unbelievable, especially in his
role with the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
He got the mad in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Hey, it's not a playoff for award though, that's not
a playoff for war.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
Yeah, it's an individual season award. So yeah, we could
move on from that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
And now let's talk about the All defensive teams.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
That was rolling with mobiley That's what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I was not rolling Mobile. I thought it was Dre.

Speaker 6 (01:17:06):
I thought it was I thought he got Defensive Player
of the Year, so he was gonna make first thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
No, I'm talking about dpoy. Yeah, I thought it was
I thought deserved.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
You even said that too, didn't you You had, I did,
I had, I had, Oh you had, you know, but THEO,
Cam and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Ray both had.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
All three had Dicon, I had Dre, and we all
we were saying like if either one went, we will
be mad.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Yeah, but nobody other than you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
No one had Lou Door and Lou Door is b
but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Not DePoy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
His his stats aren't flashy enough, bro, and what he
does is not flashy. I think it's kind of like
the doyl Reavers thing. It's like where they don't Yeah,
they don't give him because because he don't have the stats.
Because you don't you pass the ball when he's in
front of you. You want to get off the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
And I agree with you, but I'm saying he's just
not flashy enough for it. Like Dre and Diceing is
what they do is like you can see it. You
can see what they do. Right, Lou is just like
such a great defender. He shutting down your best player.
But you ain't really seen that if you're just watching
highlights and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Hey, I'm gonna say this. The biggest surprise, it wasn't surpossible.

Speaker 6 (01:18:11):
Second team is nasty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Where's Where's Daniels? I'm gonna say this, That's what I'm saying.
It wasn't a surprise me. But Kamara deserves to be there.
But where's Jayden?

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Kamara deserves to be there?

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
I don't know about.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
When where's Jayden?

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Is my question with Ray there's only two teams defensively. Yeah,
I'm gonna just say this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
You can might put Jay McDaniels, but the person who's
not leaving it's not Kamara. To me, I'm taking off
Rudy to know you're not. I'm taking off Rudy box
sorry and never Rudy I'm taking.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
I'm taking no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
He had the best offensive year of his career, but
McDaniel is dog McDaniels.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
Charlie, how can you say, Zubach? I mean, sorry, Rudy
when you would they pull him off the end games
because they attack them defensively.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Because he goes because the team probably goes small, right,
nor you ask because you can't play.

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
But if there's a big out there, he's out there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
You can't be on the all defensive team when you
need to be subbed because you're a mismatch.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
But it's a mismatch because of why, because you put
five guards out there.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Who he's not guarding a guard.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
I'm talking about the NBA from ten to fifteen years ago,
today's NBA.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
So you're telling me Rudy's out there. I mean, and
the other team has a big out there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
That I have Jayden before I have Rudy. I would
take Zubac out and keep Rudy first, but Jayden is
ahead of Rudy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
For me, that takes out first.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
So if it's Rudy or if it's Rudy or Jayden,
who do you have.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
On that team?

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I'll take out?

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
No, I didn't ask you that question. If it's Rudy
or Jada mcdoniel's, who are you picking? And I'm answering
the question I'm taking asking for those two, who are
you taking?

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Who am I taking? I mean, if if it's the
biggest out there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Putting if those are the only choices, you can only
pick one of the all defensive second team?

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Is it Rudy or Jada McDaniels, Ray, Are you sticking
with Rudy? Are you sticking with are you putting in
Jada McDaniels.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
I'm taking Jada McDaniels.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Let's move on.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
No, no, no, it's not move on.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Hold on.

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
You want to talk about it, Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Rudy's presence on the court could change a lot of
people's shots for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
And that's the stat that's not noted, right, Yeah, I
agree with you can't. You can't.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
You can't note that stat. And I don't know about
Jada mcdoniel's. I don't know about that.

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
You know what you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
He locks up, Bro, he locks up.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:51):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
He locks up. So does Rudy when the biggest out there.
When the big is out there, right, he's.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
Rudy. Nobody's scared of Rudy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
I wish we had this one.

Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
Maybe they be calling Rudy up for picking rolls.

Speaker 5 (01:21:14):
Say, nobody scared of him? Nobody scared of Lebron.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
WHOA, that's a whole different topic.

Speaker 7 (01:21:20):
Yes, yes, there is not you j m J.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
That's different Lebron people are scared too. Yeah eighty one
at first?

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Yeah, yeah, I'm scared. That's a team that he said
was good. I said it was good. Bro, You did
you say I said it was But you were just insinuated.
Like an hour ago, I sat on paper, was all right,
you have some good individuals.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
This is the reason why we play back.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
You guys play basketball games because paper doesn't matter, Bro,
it does Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Anyways, Anyway, when was the last time you got to
the Baha. I was like, y'all funny ship, y'all funny.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
It's all good, bro.

Speaker 6 (01:22:07):
So goodlie, Charlie. Your fry already.

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
A frise ass, right man.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
But onto some real ship though. On through some real
real ship right now. This is a topic that Charlie
wants to speak about. Pretty passionate about.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Dwight Howard lost eight million.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Dollars, the biggest loss I ever took. Here's a clip.
Uh eight million Jesus Christmas they stole from me.

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
Yeah, it was all that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
One time.

Speaker 9 (01:22:38):
I was actually in the process of trying to buy
a w NBA team, and so twenty nineteen was when
I started talking about uh to my agent. I was like, yo, man,
I want to get a w NBA team. They finna
go up. I'm like, man, w a w NBA is
finna pop off?

Speaker 7 (01:22:58):
I see it.

Speaker 9 (01:23:00):
My agent was like, let's get the process started. We
started talking to the dream talking to the GM. I'm
getting behind the scenes, I'm talking to the owners all
that stuff. They're like, we don't even want to sell
you the team. So at this point I'm hype. I'm like, man,
this is this is all I've been wanting, and so
the NBA tell me that I can't actually own the

(01:23:23):
NBA a w NBA team out right because I still
play in the NBA. And I'm like, well, that don't
make sense. It's two different entities. But I said, okay,
I'll get an investment group hmm, and then I'll be
you know, that's what we was kind of, you know,
hoping for that. I would just be in the back.
We saw what they was asking. I got the money,

(01:23:47):
sent it to the people who were doing the investment group.
Once they got the money, you know, gone gone, like
the win took the money when it all houses cars, jewelry,
when it's spinning it up eight million dollars worth.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Just so everybody knows.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
They I think that his old agent or some of
the people involved only got twelve years for that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:14):
So yeah, Charlie, it's crazy man.

Speaker 6 (01:24:17):
Obviously only got twelve years.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Only only got twelve years. That's what he said it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
You know what's crazy, man, is that I'm glad that
he's kind of speaking up because there's a lot of
stories like this where athletes, professional athletes get taken advantage
of it. And this is why I always encourage athletes
to have get educated on their finances. Having financial literacy

(01:24:48):
is extremely important because there's no one better to understand
their finances better than yourself. If you depend on others
to help you with your finances, and I know you need,
we need guidance, we need, but you also need education.
Got to learn about your your money. You got to
learn how to understand how money work and use it

(01:25:13):
as a tool. But when you depend on others, man,
this is where they can take advantage of your if
you're not educated enough. And you know he lost you
know eight, you know me, I'm to be honest, to
be transparent. I've lost over you know, I lost a
million dollars in this real estate deal. I've been taking

(01:25:33):
advantage of two point fifty as well documented I got
caught up, not me. I was a victim of a
positive scheme. Lost two hundred and fifty on that one.
So yeah, so I've lost over seven figures where people
took advantage of me just because I lacked the education.

(01:25:56):
I lacked the financial literacy, but it also is what
helped me become who I am today. And that's somebody
that's very knowledgeable on my finances.

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
So you got to take some l's in order to
get some w's.

Speaker 6 (01:26:13):
But.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
At the same time losing eight million dollars. It's crazy art.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
My question for you is for players who might hear
this or see this, what would you give them advice?
Like first steps into how they should be learning about
their money, Like where should they start?

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
Well, we all at the end of the day, where
you started. I mean, you're going to need some type
of professional help. But I think having conversations with your accounting,
with your wealth manager, with your business, you know, twice
a week, three times a week, or whatever it is.
You got to have a relationship with these individuals and
tell these individuals, you know, help me, how do you

(01:26:53):
get to this, How do you do this? How do
you budget? How do you leverage? How do I make
my money grow? You gotta act some questions and got
to educate yourself. You have to educate yourself. So I
know sometimes in schools they don't do it. They don't
to educate you on the business side of how you
know you got to pay taxes and this, that and
the third. But you just got to ask the right questions.

(01:27:14):
You just got to ask all the questions. There's no
dumb questions in finances in my eyes, and just have
these professionals because this is why you know, you have
these professionals on your team. At the end of the day,
these guys work for you. So if they're not doing
their job, they got to keep it moving. So ask
the right questions, ask all types of questions, and whatever

(01:27:38):
it is that they're doing, ask them, why are they
doing that for you? You know, why was that a
good move? Why do I need to invest here? Why
why you did that? And that's how you learn the experience.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Appreciate that, appreciate it. Free free game, free game, well
you only get free game. You got any thoughts anything
you want to speak on that aspect?

Speaker 6 (01:28:01):
Know, not live you know, like like tallers that we've
all been through situations you know to understand. You know,
when you you get drafted, you put in a situation
where you got a lot of money over night, and
it's something that you know, I wasn't accustomed to. It
was something that you know, my family wasn't accustomed to.
So you trust the strangers to teach you about how

(01:28:27):
to how to manage that type of money, how to
how to spend it, how to save it. How to
you know, invest it, Like so you you got to
find the right group, the right people that that that's
really truthful, you know, and to be honest with that
type of money. It's kind of hard to find truth
for people. So it's very important, like Charlie saying, to

(01:28:47):
really understand it yourself. Get to understand and get to
know what's different things to do and learn about your
money and have those meetings, you know, like you said,
once a week, twice a week, whatever, you know, every quarter,
you know, you you sit down and have a bigger
meaning about your money and stuff like that. So it's

(01:29:10):
I think everybody has that, that story. I think everybody
deals with that, you know, because you're put in a
situation where you're giving a lot of money and you know,
you feel like you can go do anything and everything,
but you know, you got taxes, You got so many
things that you have to pay before you really receive
the real amount, and a lot of people don't understand that.

(01:29:31):
They just see all shit, he just he just signed
for two hundred million now understanding that they probably ain't
gonna get about maybe what not ninety eight ninety nine
of that Charlie, Yep, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
So like a couple of things here, I'd just say
one thing, real good, that eight million is really like
twelve million earned if you're in a no income tax
suff like, that's really like thirteen fourteen. Yeah, that's even worse. Right,
So let's put that in perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
People go with two things here with the with the
Dwight Howard situation, the fact that he said he's in
business with his agents.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
To me, it's a red flag. Your agent should be
your agent.

Speaker 5 (01:30:14):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Why you're doing business deals with your agent. It's crazy
to me because at the end of the day, who's
overseeing him?

Speaker 6 (01:30:23):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
Who's overseeing your agent? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
So you got to have a team and structure a
team where you got to hold each and everyone accountable
and have a professional overseeing that individual. But to me,
it's a red flag you're doing business with your agent.
You shouldn't do your business with your agent. At the
end of the day, your agent is your agent. And
then Ray to jump on what you said, maybe I

(01:30:47):
need to challenge you Ray a little bit where you said, well,
I don't want to say it live and I feel
you and I'm not saying you. Let's say, your story live,
but you can help somebody if you do. You know
what I'm saying. The fact that Dwight Howard brought it up.
And at the end of the day, we're athors. We've
all been taking advantage of and we shouldn't look at

(01:31:08):
at failure like because a back then, because you could
help somebody, It's what I'm saying. And your story can
help the next generation, you know what I mean. And
that's what And then if the athletes we come and
we talk and we speak about this shit, we start
realizing like, oh shit, like this, this has been going
on for a minute, you know what I mean, because

(01:31:28):
sometimes we might feel embarrassed or we might you know
what I mean this And the third and even me
when I lost a million dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:31:35):
You know, I haven't really publicly set talked.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
About when I lost a fucking million dollars in this
real estate deal, which at one point I will, I
will talk about it, but so I feel you on
that point, but I do you know me, just maybe
speak on it a little bit more or and whenever
you're comfortable.

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
You know, I'm all this because I want to know
that got me going.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
I want to know.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
Well, we'll talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
We're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
You guys will talk offline, Yeah, to the behind to talk.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Any last thoughts on the on that, on the the
white thing, anybody got any last thoughts?

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Ship man?

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
Eight million dollars is a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:32:14):
Fuck, it's a lot of money.

Speaker 6 (01:32:16):
Man, that's a lot of money. I gotta I gotta
make some phone calls.

Speaker 5 (01:32:25):
Fact, hold on, hold on, my damn hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
He means consultation called.

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
Yeah, don't mean you don't mean he don't mean none
of that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
No, I do that eight million ring got of history,
you know, very with you, with you thinking about it.

Speaker 6 (01:32:53):
But seriously, though, eight million dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
That's a lot of money, bro, that's not the money
you feel eight mil.

Speaker 6 (01:33:00):
I mean it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
I mean it seemed like it didn't bother fucking Dwight
Ship living good. The background look pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
I mean, I think the white man like plus right.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
But still though I know that, But you're saying it
bother him.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
I'm like, yeah, he earned a lot, now he did.

Speaker 7 (01:33:16):
But man, huh, I don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
I don't care how much he heard that. Still eight
mill out.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
I didn't say it's not I'm just saying when he
says he got a beautiful house, I'm like, yo, because
he earns so much.

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
Bro, Yeah, eight million is crazy, man.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
I just encourage more athletes to speak on their situations
that you know they got got because I got got, Bro.
I say you with with for the love, man, and
and I mean, shit happens, bro, ship.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Fucking happens, man. And that's the part that I hate
about sports and the business side is when people take advantage.

Speaker 6 (01:33:54):
Of that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Speaking on some money, talk about the positive side of
the morning, some money on Kaitlyn Clark, foul make the
w being a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
They talking about a billie. You want me to give
you guys, some stats.

Speaker 5 (01:34:06):
Give us numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
I like numbers all right already. So it was a professor.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
I don't even know the school, but in an article
from NBC News, he specializes in economics. So almost twenty
seven percent of economic activity from the WNB last season
came from Kaitlyn Clark in the fever two.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
New expansion teams.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
As obviously everybody knows, she signed an eight year, twenty
eight million dollars deal with Nike. They don't ever think
that the league will be able to pay Caitlin her
true value. I think everybody here knows that that's like
no brainer. She'll never get her true value to the league.
The overall attendance went from just under seven thousand to
almost ten thousand generally from the league from one year.

(01:34:47):
The Fever were the most watched games, with the averaging
about one point two million per game. You guys ready
for the numbers parts of it. Fanatic sales in the
WNBA increased two hundred thirty three percent. I don't think
people actually understand how big that is a spike in
business just in the WNBA sales. That's a mass spec.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
You forgot one part.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
I'm not done.

Speaker 5 (01:35:08):
Oh no, oh my full keep not done, my full home,
keep going.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
The ticket sales jumped about one hundred and forty dollars
when Caitlin's in town, with the average ticket price being
three hundred and twelve dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
That's that was on.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
Those are unheard numbers for the WNBA, the last two
numbers for y'all. Y' allready, the city of Indianapolis will
benefit forty one million dollars per year just for Kaitlyn
Clark being there, just on a financial scale, and the
fever went from ninety million to approximately three hundred and
forty million on their team value.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Yeah, and oh top by that, Kate and Clark is
the reason why the team's fly private.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
All teams all teams.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
So, I mean, you're right, she would never MWNBA would
never pay her her true value. And obviously she's done
tremendous off the court, she does very well, but she
shouldn't be paying a damn thing in the city and
everything should be for free.

Speaker 14 (01:36:09):
Everything, restaurants, everything, restaurants, her house, everything, because what she's
done for the city and not only for the city
but for the sport of the w.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
N b A is phenomenal. Yeah, Kaitlyn Clark good in
any city. She's good.

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
She's good at any city.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
And it's only gonna get crazy when when Juju get there. Wow,
I don't think us not going to Indiana. You're talking
about that NBA. I don't think Juju has a star
power of Kaitlyn. She would not have to start power
because Kaitlyn.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Is like the is I hate the comparis.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
She's like Steph on how she shoots threes that crazy
Juju like gets buckets methodically, Like it's just different. I
think Juju can definitely be a bigger star. I'm just
talking about the way they do different.

Speaker 6 (01:36:52):
They're gonna be the two faces of the wn B.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
A watch that's gonna be Larry Bird Magic. Yeah, yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
I agree, I think so. But also Kayln Car is
also out for two weeks by the way.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
Yeah, so that that just dropped.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
It just dropped this morning.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
So the numbers. Does that affect the numbers then, I'm
sure yes, yes, yes, I'm sure it does. I'm sure
that's gonna I'm sure we'll find out real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:37:19):
We're gonna have some economic studies on that, real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:37:23):
Numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
We'll see her actual value to somebody as well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
That's one of our loyal fans. He's there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
The car is here every Let me give some shoutouts.

Speaker 4 (01:37:36):
First, let me give some You're here every single you
got to hear this, so Nacari, you're here every single show.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Shout out to you.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
Kevin Lucas Dre who's always hating on me, still shout
out to you. And we definitely see Trey Martin here
a little bit. Alex Done so shout out to all
y'all are always being here. We appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Tuping in.

Speaker 5 (01:37:53):
Oh yeah, ready for this.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
I can't get Michael Nassis. He's always here as well,
so appreciate y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:37:59):
Ray they said Kaitlyn clark is more good in New
York than me.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
I agree with that statement. Yeah, she probably. I agree
with that.

Speaker 6 (01:38:08):
Hey hey, right now she is right now?

Speaker 5 (01:38:11):
Yah better stop yeah, better.

Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
Right now because you're talking crazy about the Knicks right yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:38:18):
But they know that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
But listen, man, I'm from New York. I talk ship,
New York talks ship back. They all know it's all out,
but hold up.

Speaker 5 (01:38:24):
When it comes down to when you dig down the roots,
New York all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Kaitlan Clarker is good anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
She is good anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
So right now you're in a little hostile territory.

Speaker 5 (01:38:33):
Anywhere to no, no, no, New York.

Speaker 4 (01:38:36):
I got a little Adam Mossie towards you right now.
She loved everywhere. So yeah, she's better than you in
New York. You may be good in New York, but
she's better than you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
Hate is an emotion, right yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
Right now she loves so she better, She better than
you New York. Right now, I'm gonna be hated in
New York, but I still walk to New York with
my head up. Don't mean you get free food and
stuff if.

Speaker 5 (01:38:56):
You want, have to pay for my ship a little extra.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
What I'm saying, So she better than your New York
right now, that's all I'm saying. Text, they gonna tax
you a little bit more. Bro, she ain't getting taxed.

Speaker 5 (01:39:10):
She definitely ain't getting taxed.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
She's straight, bro.

Speaker 6 (01:39:13):
Straight free.

Speaker 5 (01:39:14):
But like that, we both straight, Charlie were both straight.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
Oh my gosh, something hold on, let me say that.
Let me just because cam The and Charlie they don't
like to do. So what Kurt said, One of our
other producers says, her peers are hating on her, but
they forget that they benefit off her as well.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Just so the whole.

Speaker 6 (01:39:41):
Said, you said, we don't like to do what what
we don't like to do?

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Y'all never repeat what I say. When I say repeat
it so the people can hear. It's because people start
talking as I'm trying to do it. Yeah, but so
so it's just so repeated. So Kurt said that their
peers are hating on Caitlin although they benefit from everything
she brings.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
So Charlie, Well, go ahead, right ahead, whoever's whoever's floor.

Speaker 7 (01:40:05):
Yeah, let me let me speak on that. Let me
speak on that.

Speaker 6 (01:40:10):
I don't I don't want to make it out of
a hate thing. I want to keep it in the
perspective of it's being competitive and being competitive. But you
you know, it's it's it's a little jealousy in there.
I will say that. You know it's it's a little
jealousy in there because these girls has been working so
hard for so many years and they haven't been able

(01:40:30):
to get ship. That's just that's just be real. They
haven't been able to get nothing, and then here comes
this girl come in and she changes everything. So, yes,
that's a little jealousy there. There's a little I'm gonna
rough her up. I'm trying to go at her when
she's get on the court and for the game, that's good.
But when it starts getting out of hand where you're

(01:40:50):
trying to hurt her, you know, you're cheap shot in her.
Like it's it's a little crazy. It's kind of like
it's kind of I'm gonna be really and I'm not
comparing her to go Yeah, I'm not comparing her to
the goat.

Speaker 7 (01:41:04):
But it was like Jordan though, they was hate no MJ.
They was trying to rough MJ up. They was trying
to hurt MJ.

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
You know, he going to air. They were trying to
knock him out the air. They did knock him out
the air. You know, it was some little hate because
MJ changed the game for the NBA. He really did.
Like the viewship went crazy when Michael Jordan came in
the league.

Speaker 7 (01:41:22):
Let's just let's be honest.

Speaker 6 (01:41:23):
The NBA was was watched and it was growing up
getting wrong because of Larry and because a bird, I mean,
because of Larry and because of Magic. But when MJ
came in, it was a total different thing. You know,
the way he was followed, the way the social media
gravitated to him is just totally different. And you see
that with Caitlyn Clark, That's just what it is. She's

(01:41:47):
she could possibly be the goat of the WNBA right now,
down to Tarasi. Right now, it's down to Tarasi. But
let's be real, the way it's going right now, she
could be the reason that she is becoming the reason
and the change of the w period. I mean, you
can't hate on that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
Well, hold, hold, hold, hold the hold up right, you
don't have to preface it. She is doing what Michael
Jordan did for the WBA, Like, it's not crazy for
you to say that, like she has literally transformed the
league just like MJ did bro because I wasn't alive
for it, but I read about it, like how like
you know, magic and birds are taking there, but MJ
is really what flew take the NBA to flew them

(01:42:28):
to new heights. So you undred percent right, But you
don't have to sugarcoat that statement. You don't have to
sugar coat that's that ship is one hundred percent. She
is doing what Michael did.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
For the league, even though kit Clark is having way
more of an impact than Diana to on the sport,
on the game, be real on the sport, yeah, but
not play wise. Don't take away from my goal. Yeah
that's my goal.

Speaker 5 (01:42:54):
Come on now, she's a legend. But the impact we're
talking about the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Pat Yeah, you can't. You can't doubt that in the numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
Your numbers got right. Numbers don't lie.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
But I'm gonna say something, and I think that Caitlin
Clark gets the hate that she does.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
I'm gonna say it's because she's white.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
That's definitely part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
That plays a role.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
It's because hey, we literally saw a whole on esp
and of the debating about white woman taking over the sport. No,
it's not taking over. It's always been a thing.

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
But the numbers don't lie.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
No, But we're not talking about that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:36):
We're talking about how What we're talking about is you
guys talk about the debate. Every single massively marketed w
NB player has been white, Super Diana Tarrossi, Lauren Jackson.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Those are the three.

Speaker 5 (01:43:46):
Trasc's Argentinian.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
All right, bro, all right, let's be for and Argentini.
I'm not gonna get anyways. The point is is that
the majority of them talk about the college players. It
was Levadan Fields page right until Angel came in.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
It really was you got Angel and Juju. That's really
Angel and ju.

Speaker 6 (01:44:09):
What media you forget about? You forget about Asha Wilson,
you go forget about Candas Parker.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
But that's what recently. But again, but but Diana and
su we're more marketing than Candace.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
You want to take it back. We got Cynthia Cooper
and Cheryl Swoop. You want to take it back, for sure,
about Wonder First Woman, the duncan n.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
W n B a game, Yes, but I'm talking about
won there's predominantly white. When there's a great white white
players as well, they're more marketed.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
Think about what we typically heard of. We didn't hear
about Maya as much as of Diana.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
Yeah, he's not wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
He's not saying that better. He's just saying that that's
what that's what the media talks about. Bro, That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
I don't think he's wrong. I don't think he get it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
I will say this though, that I don't know if
I agree with right. Taylor Clark is first and m
v P right now, I don't think I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Asia was that's over Asia and it's definitely her should
be that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:14):
I've been watching the Aces because of Jewel Lloyd, one
of our newest additions to family.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
Yeah, the Ace has been getting blasted in some games,
so she is not right now, but it should be Collier.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
It should be. It should be her.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Nice, she's nice and win and I think they undefeated still, Yes,
I'm saying so it definitely should be. To think that
is a little it's too early, but they put the
polls up. I got you, That's what I'm saying. You
can put the polls up. They're like two and two, Bro,
what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:45:45):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
Who's too and two the fever? Aren't they? Are they
three and one? I think they lost her?

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
And yeah they're two and two, so what are we
talking about? Like, they're not even the top team. So
it's just it's just nonsense, that's what I'm saying. And
she had trained turnovers her last game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
By the way, Yeah, she's not the VP, she's.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
An m v P on impact of the game. On
the business side, they're gonna collude.

Speaker 7 (01:46:08):
If if it's close, she's gonna win the votes.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
You're gonna colude.

Speaker 5 (01:46:13):
Why say it?

Speaker 7 (01:46:17):
Why if it's close, because she's.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Because she is?

Speaker 6 (01:46:26):
Is what? What there? You go?

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
N B, No, No, that's not what the white player
I did. But that's not what that's how this point
was about. They're gonna give her the MVP because it's
good for business. Forget her being white. If she was VP,
it's good for business, point blank.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
Period.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
But what I'm saying is you said, you said she's white.
That's market The white place in the media speaks the media.

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
The media speaks about them more.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
Therefore, the media media to get m v P regardless
of whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:47:01):
Media is not rigging it, though I'm saying the w
A NBA gonna rig it from the Jesuits side.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
That's what I'm saying. You said it, Hun, you said it,
but different context. Anyways, Anyways, y'all any any last any
last points before we sign up?

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
No, sir, you guys got any shout outs.

Speaker 5 (01:47:20):
Shout outs to the d R and Cat, but they
got Cat from playing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
That's nickname was a big person.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
I didn't know that was his name.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
New York.

Speaker 5 (01:47:30):
They call him that New York. See if he was
from New York, you would know that. But you're not
from New York.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
I don't claim to be from New York.

Speaker 5 (01:47:35):
You feel me? No know where I claimed to be from.
You more in New York than me?

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Hell No, I'm from the Six Boys.

Speaker 5 (01:47:42):
I'm more in Toronto.

Speaker 6 (01:47:45):
Six don't ever say you're more more than me.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Charlie, What the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 6 (01:47:50):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
They want to talk.

Speaker 5 (01:47:51):
About this Thompson Twins.

Speaker 4 (01:47:52):
Me and Charlie had a whole argument about Jamaica influence
in Toronto, New York the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
I feel about this.

Speaker 6 (01:48:00):
Kling it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
You know why I'm feeling it because they probably never
They don't got a shot to play in the US?

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Are you crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
An have a shot to plant.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Twenty twenty eight?

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
He would know, they know they We just say say,
Amen has a chance to play for there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:48:16):
Reason why Cat. There's a reason why Cat plays for
the d R team.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
You're talking does plation team would have it?

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Can't play defensive role?

Speaker 5 (01:48:24):
Cat would not have a tance to play in the US.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
He would would Are you tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
All the funk up?

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Hold up house?

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
Amen yo yo, y'all say amen, old and twenty eight over?
Who is still three more years from that? He would
take it three years he had I'm the hold I'm
not saying he will, but I'm saying, y'all tell me
he don't have a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
Why he shouldn't try out?

Speaker 5 (01:48:48):
Put him on the select joint.

Speaker 4 (01:48:49):
If he's on the select Drew Holiday, he's one of
the best young defensive players.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Who what are we talking about? How come we can't
take Drew Holiday's role? Derek White, Derek White's roll. We've
been serious, thank you, am.

Speaker 5 (01:49:00):
There's a reason why they're playing. But if they had
a chat.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
They for US can not better Drew Holliday or White.

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
Cat could be on the team, can't represent Dominican choice.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Hey, Charlie chares to give one side of the story.
Cat played on the senior team sixteen year old. That's why.
Because fine, but then you can't switch nationalities after that?

Speaker 6 (01:49:22):
You can?

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
I changed it?

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Oh you can't. I started with nobody. But that's because
you played on the on the junior team. But he
played on the senior senior team as a sixteen. That
changes the rules. Cat played on the senior team as.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
The sixteen and then he changed.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
No, he hasn't changed it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
He's still on team.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
He was never with us.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
He was never with the US as a senior. It's different.

Speaker 6 (01:49:42):
But you can.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
But let's get back to the argument.

Speaker 4 (01:49:43):
How can Thomson the top a man, the guy that
Ray and THEO and Charlie, you all say he's he's
a super starting to make it because what he does
not play on the team.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Please tell me Ray over Like in the Derek White Roll,
Prince Roll, go to.

Speaker 6 (01:49:56):
Sleep, it's not about not rolling with I just can't
believe we're talking about this ship. This kid's got a
way so much to do, and you're talking about dead White,
who's proving who?

Speaker 7 (01:50:10):
Who took a long time before he got to that
point a chip.

Speaker 6 (01:50:14):
He was in San Antonio, you know, he had to
make his name having make his way there, you know,
and he finally got his flowers in Boston. Drew Holliday
was in the league forever before before you he said,
they don't got chips before before before the follow But
what I'm saying is before they got their flowers to
even be considered there in their us A team. Je

(01:50:36):
Holliday was in the league for a long time before
they even happened. And guess what, he got a ship
before that happened.

Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
Preach, he wan month before.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
They happened, the month before they went through. Let's keep
that a stack. It's not he was on the team before.

Speaker 6 (01:50:51):
And before that. But when I'm saying this, before that though,
he was never even thought about to get on the
US CITY.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Already before the champions the one.

Speaker 6 (01:51:01):
A year what year? What year in the league was
you holiday when.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
He went to Best Okay, that's not what you said
that you said the champions You're like, you're eleven year
eleven or something. Okay, guys, let's let let's let's rewind
y'all say they have no shot of making That's what
I'm saying, saying, make.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
It, Charlie. I'm just saying, by twenty twenty eight, that's
three years.

Speaker 5 (01:51:24):
That's three years. You're fine playing for Jamaica.

Speaker 7 (01:51:26):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
All right, we're signing off. Bro, I don't have yore
your dad barbecue with the family. Hold you won't take
a larung term bet with him that he has a
shot to make it that that he'll be on the
team USA try out.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
Three and three years.

Speaker 5 (01:51:43):
It's not fair be tryout.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
He has no shot.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
Yeah, we said, I'm talking about making the team.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Say no shot. That's what you said.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
That means you want to rut.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Look, but if you say he has no shot, means
were said what we said? What we say, Charlie. What
we said, Charlie, Charlie, what I say this? He should
be able to try out.

Speaker 6 (01:52:01):
He give me a no.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
Okay, what you said he has no shots? He says
he has no shot, no shot. You said he had
no shot.

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
He had to say he has no shot. Okay, by
twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
If you okay, if you see pat Jamaica, So let
me explain to you if you the star, if he
says he has no shot, that means he has zero
percent chance. Right, But if he's on the tryout roster,
that means he has a one percent chance. That is
what you said, better roster. Oh, let's better.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
I'm not talking about try we're talking about I'm not
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
You said he has no shot.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
That means he has zero chance, zero chance of making
the actual team.

Speaker 5 (01:52:38):
But no, you said tryout roster. All right, you say
nobody could be in the fucking try.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
All right, guys, we're signing off.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Bro, I'm done with as Mike right now.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
Off.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
He's the producer, the other producer. So let's give a
shout out to the other producer.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
I have no shot on the Canadian team. Right What
the fuck are we talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:53:02):
I'm just saying that.

Speaker 6 (01:53:03):
I mean, we're talking about what you're saying the same
thing about. Amen, So ship you can have a chance.

Speaker 5 (01:53:08):
I will exactly a change.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
I don't have a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
There's no percent chance. I'm on the fucking Canadian tryout team. Guys,
or the or the last twenty five guys, what the
fuck are we doing here? Stop sucking with me?

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Y'all, there's no chance. This is crazy al right, guys,
you appreciate with us.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
I mean, Charlie, you're saying a fucking tryout, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
If you're on the final twenty one roster, that means
you have a legit chance to make No you do not.
All right, y'all, make sure y'all scream subscribe to to
the BaHaB. We're moving everything there next week. Charlie's fucking
losing his marbles right now?

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
Is y on Thursday?

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
Rate.

Speaker 4 (01:53:46):
We appreciate you tapping in from New York for sure,
y'all have a great shot the bro. He'd be dropping
twenty in the in the p r E.

Speaker 5 (01:53:55):
Get a win.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
You got to get a win for the Get a
fucking win, bro.

Speaker 6 (01:53:59):
To the.

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
No win, You'll always say he from north Coin about winning.
Get him, get a go, Get us a goddamn draft
for if you need to. We'll see y'all. Pease appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:54:10):
Peace,