The MAVS are DOUBLING down, the Warriors are OLD and Deron Williams BACK in the building

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
One.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yo, what's good. We're back in the building. We got
a very special guest. He's joined us before, but before
we welcome to the show. We got Ray Felton in
the building.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
What's all right?

Speaker 1 (00:13):
How you doing?

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
How you doing? Bro? Back in the building. It's raining
like hell outside.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yes, sir, it is nasty and obviously we're welcoming back.
Mister Darren Williams in the building. Appreciate you pulling up.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yes, they will good to be here again. Man Wills
in the flash? What up?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
And Big Bank funk?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
All that? Bro?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
We don't forget about our Day one viewers were always
giving shout out our big Day one viewers. You weren't
here yesterday, though, I don't where you were.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Where was you at?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Where was you at yesterday? We're gonna hold you accountable, yes, sir, but.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Y'all listen some shoutouts shout to Oasis first. Appreciate y'all, Curtis.
We appreciate the open up yesterday as well. Man, that'saw
a lot of love for you in the comments on
the YouTube video, so appreciate the chat. If we missed
Big Bank yesterday, that's our fault. Yeah, that's that's that's
my bad, big bang. I didn't see him comming though.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's that's on home. That's all me.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's all mean for your shouts in the car, shouts
at tends and we see you Tate lucky. I don't
even know if I'm saying that right, mister Crabs, appreciate you.
Mister Craws got change.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
His name though, I thought you got rid of the footstool.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I never heard of it.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Would you said? How do you feel feet aren't swinging?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, it's the economics.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
What is for?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
What ergonomics?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Have you heard about the race? The race him and
sebe a foot race? Yes, the meters. I might got
home on that one. Really, what what are you talking about? Man,
don't be moving? Well, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I don't know you thirty three.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Right there on that alone? Easy?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Oh so, so just so you know, it's the links
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's the links for me.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
But something short, No, just so you know soccer players
many fast here.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Soccer player you went to Justin Gallin?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Right? You know you know Justin Gallon, Golden med Olympian. Yeah,
he's a sprinter, so you know I've been. He's in
the lab giving me some tips. I've been training, working
a little.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
We've been training, training a little bit, and Charlie ain't
doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
He said, he's training. This is my thing. Charlie, I
don't understand that. I don't understand why we're doing two
hundred meters.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Because if you're gonna put a point of tidally on
the line, we ain't chopping up the.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Back, saying are not long distance runners.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't meters ain't long dist meters is twenty seconds?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Thank you you. You gotta make it two hundred meters.
You gotta make it turn exactly. You got to. You
gotta hit a gradual what you want to do? Suicides? No,
one hundred meters, can hundred meetings like two hundred because
it because it one hundred hundred because because then you're
taking right. You say, his legs right, so it gives

(02:48):
him a little chance, that's on him.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, it's good for Charlie.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
How is that good for Charlie? Though?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Because you have a long stride pattern.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
It's better because legs, Because all you can do is
run a certain you can't run your top speed for
more than three seconds. If so, then is just how
long you can maintain if.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
You run two hundred meters, Charlie's pulling up the last sixty.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Something, just say it's Barkley versus Dick.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Hilarious. If you do two hundred meters, I might take you. Also,
we're only doing two hundred meters. I would love to
do one hundred, two undred and four hundred. And I
put five points on.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
All in the same day, or it can be, it
can be separated. I put five points on the line.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's a lot. That's a lot of running. Yeah, I
put five points on y'all do four hundred meters? Y'all
are dead? Yeah, especially at the end. Y'all do it
at the end. There's no like.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Nobody's making it. Somebody's falling, somebody's throwing up, for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't know. I'm gonna be honest. Are you in that? Goodness?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Make can I feel I can?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Did you hear that? The way? You just studied?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Four hundred meters? But I can run a six and
a half minute miles. I really tried.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
We ain't see you talking miles and ship six and
a half minute mile?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, I really tried. Y I run a seven thirty.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
We had to do a five fifteen in college.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, okay, hell, I've been meaning to ask you tip
top shape. You don't mean to ask him this. The
Brown probably as far as shooter, one of the best
shoots you ever played with. Or is he a score?
He's a score, score score, he's a score. He's streaky shooter.
Got you? Luther was Luther? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
It was crazy because Luther wasn't a shooter coming out
and then on that ship like between his sophomore in
junior year because he let our team to scoring. The
next year, the year we went to the to the
Final four championship.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
The Brown was one of my favorite players. Ain't gonna
hold you. He put that ball in that bad he
could shoot. He was barking, what do you do? Who's
the team y'all lost to that year? Other than them?
I was a saying, no, no, I know that one
im And because y'all both win, it came in with
one loss.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
We lost to Ohio State the last game of the
regular season. They were down to down to and hit
a buzzer beater and went for the three and Matt
Silvester made the three of the buzzer. He had no, no,
they didn't have anything they weren't playing for anything.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Uh were the worst teams to play? Yeah, because y'all
lost the fucking Santa Clara.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh, hell, Santa Clara was out there crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I got suspended. I suspended that first round playing in
the league in the summertime, and it was a sanction.
It was. But you know, snitched on me though. N
C State dudes, I hate us. Time I played. I
tried to kill him.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Imps.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
It might have been him. No cap no for real.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
To Charlie, he will be back in the building next
shadow CV.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
CV back now. He want to come in today. He
saw his nasty rain.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
He ain't back yet.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
He come back today.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Get back to that.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
About this morning, I.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Think he robbed it. He came in the morning.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
He said, I think they're flying out this morning. D
you all looking comfortable on my seat?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
CV.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Are you back in Dallas? Yeah, let's be You could
have been here, Kurt. They said the mics are a
little low, so maybe turn them up.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
See that's what I was trying to say.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
I remember last time they were telling us to talking
to mic and then Kirk over here, put the mic
over here.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Come on, Kurt. Kurt just got back back welcome back.
Hurt to everybody. Oh yeah, CV. Also they said this
is my seat now if whenever I wanted, that's what
I heard. Damn.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
All right, listen, let's let's let's get to it. Let's
get to the baja. ESPN it's looking real spooky. A
lot of Twitter comments is that Amazon and NBC is whooping.
They asked Belt to ask in terms of broadcast coverage.
This is their new innovation.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Look at the talent. Who is there? Whose man is this?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
This is how they're doing their coverage. Now that I
would say meta.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
They're doing they got it. It's probably got to be
paying stupid money. They got it. No other way you're
putting that out there.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
This looks crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
What is that? No? Stop, you're lying they're.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
Playing to demonstrate two K.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
What is this on though? This end game?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
This is this is on countdown? Countdown, countdown or NBA.
I mean during the during halftime.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Not watching this no more. I will turn a halftime
for now. If I got to look at this, you
know it's crazy. I don't watch ESPN halftime either. I
don't watch pre game, I don't watch anything. I'll wait
till the game starts. It's bad. It's bad. Bump the
fact that we are sitting here and they have You

(07:55):
gotta understand there's too many there's too many former players
yeah out there now for you to not get anybody.
It looks bad. Everyone wants to listen to who they got.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
They got your boy, Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
They still don't got they don't have anybody, and you
got d Will, You got Ray who's sitting here. They
gonna want to listen to them before they listen to
No Offense Mike Malone. You're not turned on TV to
listen to Mike Malone. I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
I mean, I understand you're right because you go NBC, Amazon,
they got you got mellow Vinch Carter.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Like people are gonna watch off the Strength that's their
favorite player. You got to understand that who you show
me and this is no I'm really not trying to disrespect.
I can't, I won't be. It's gonna be hard for
me to find the say, Kendrick Perkin is my favorite player,
Mike Malone is my favorite coach. At this point, these

(08:53):
these UH broadcasts, they're going after stars. If you want
to match these other programs, you gotta get some stars.
I don't have the budget. How do they not have
a budget?

Speaker 2 (09:03):
They got because I think they pay a lot more
to Steven A. Smith And other.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Times it's Disney. You know much money is bleeding I'm
telling you, you know how much money they bring in?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, No, they're bleeding money. It's Disney, Disney's fun front
of their bill. It's reported, what's the same. Bob Igers
literally said they might sell the ESPN in the past,
in the last two years, really yes, because you can't
keep up with the NBA contracts and the n A
TV rights. Bob Igers come out and said that that
they may may look to offload ESPN.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
That is the most insane comment I've seen. Vince Carter
ain't nobody's favorite player.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Vince car Is definitely hitting me a wild You know
you don't pay That's called rage bait. You don't pay
attention to guys.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Is insane. Come on, Geordan, you gotta do better than that.
The best dunker ever, he ain't got No, ain't nobody
the favorite. Come on, they said, Jordan David's gotta go
that the favor right there? Yeah, a thousand people right now.
He's still going to get if he if he gets

(10:07):
a hundred. That's still his favorite for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
So so the reason why I know that is because,
you know, Kurt and I talk about the stuff because
we're in the media space obviously, and Bob Iger's definitely
talking about offloading ESPN a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
It's bad.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You gotta think, bro, you're paying steven A Smith twenty
million dollars year. How much you think you're paying? Like,
why do you think they offloaded Mark and Jeff.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Steven A Smith that much money? He's on every show
they are count they are counting on, you know, every
show they counted. How they want to hear him?

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Did you guys see and Curtis I get, I really
get confused. I don't know, just because he's so wild,
but I can't I because I can't.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Even listen to him. Pat McAfee saving him.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, Pat McAfee's a lot of money too, but he's
he's making them. Did you guys see how much money
ESPN bet loss? Why they close on the ESPN bet? No?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I heard about that.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
You heard ESPN bets millions of dollars a quarter. I
think tens of millions of dollars a quarter. You got
to you got to somewhere make that loss up somewhere.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
If Disney has a lot of money, that's tens of
millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
What the hell is going on in Texas? Bro It's crazy.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I was supposed to be moving some more today I'm
not doing nothing. This is normal. This is no bipolar.
Bipolar is you were just talking about the other day.
You said, we in the middle of what what what season?
We are? Right there? It was hot. It was like
raining like hell out there. Remember when we had that.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
It was the most beautiful day ever. One day next
day a tornado came through the middle of Dallas. Two
days later it was snowing, and the next day it
was seventy Like.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
This, sh it don't make no sense out here.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I was looking scary out No, no, it definitely is
definitely scary out there.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
The place we can go to if a tornado hit
the name right here, Yeah, parking garage down the bottom?
True are good?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Do you will know the ship he's he likes.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
I've been in three three tornadoes, hurricane, two earthquakes, Hurricane Okay,
you got this, Wow, I was.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
A Hurricane Sandy, me too. I was there, niggas. Remember
I was boats. It was boats people people yards was flooded.
There was boats in people yards. Damn boats.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Someone did ask you about your yellow Lamborghini?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Is that real? Bell in New York? I had one?
Oh he got some said what do you think about
Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua fight.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
I don't see that fight. There's no way he's gonna
fight Anthony Joshua.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
What happened with Tank? I don't know, because he's man too.
He was well.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
So is the abuse charge that got brought back up,
the one that happened a while ago, the one where
he's got the body cam footage his girl was trying
to or whatever take his car or whatever.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Because that was that was like.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Two years ago ago.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
So why why is that now the reason their fight cancel?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
On the fight?

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Like they knew about that before, But I don't know.
Something else came up that I didn't see. I don't know,
But I don't know how you go from fighting somebody
smaller than Hong no cap for somebody that's way bigger
than you and way more like.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
That's a boxer, Like I don't care what he had
beat He beat his I.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
Don't care about his losses that he's had in the
last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Whatever, he's cocky. I want to see somebody He didn't
want to follow the script.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
That's what everybody's saying.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, the script about the end.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
If he stills footing that ring with Anthony Joshua, he's
going he's he put Francis and Gander to sleep.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
You don't think he's putting Jake Paul, So he'd be
putting stipulations on the fight though he'd be putting stipulations
on the fight. They can't really, they can't do certain
stuff to him, and I don't like that. I don't
know if you can. Mike Tyson could have How do
you even control that? Right?

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Like you put stiff relations on the fight. Oh, you
can't knock me out, but you're not trying. I wasn't
trying to knock you out, but I knocked you out.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Sorry?

Speaker 8 (14:06):
Like what?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Like?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
How do you putipulated?

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Can't put man Mike Tyson? Mike If you saw Mike Tyson,
Mike Tyson a couple of times, was like and could
have hit him. Mike Tyson was sixty seven years old.
I know they couldn't have get the time and it
wasn't I played my tights. Was just older ship, But no,
it was time.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Because because Jake even pool punches.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
When they I know he did, but they slowed down
some stuff without Mike Tyson and a couple of times
when he could have hit this man and he did it.
I just don't even at sixty seven years old, Mike
Tyson punch would still hurt him. Actual Jones, that was
like six years ago. No, that long ago he fought.
It was a while ago.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
Man, It was a while ago.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I was said though, the fact that he hit that man,
and that man said, I gotta go home and talk
to my wife if I fight him again. Let you
know how hard that man it was hit. If you
gotta say I gotta go home and talk to the wife,
that means that man hits you hard as ship.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I listen, we're talking about Jake Paul boxing. It's
an interesting world with living.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
You're making a lot of money doing that shit.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
I mean, it's not like he's terrible. I'm not saying
he's terrible. What I'm saying is that's Anthony Joshua. That's
a whole different ball, different anything. He's been fighting. He
fought a cab driver, uber driver, he fought MMA guys
that weren't strikers. Yes, I think the one boxer he
fought was Tommy Ferry, who's not even a really good boxer,

(15:23):
and he lost. Tommy Furry is here, Anthony Joshua is here,
so and the size difference is even.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Like, I don't know. You say it don't even happen.
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Is it signed? Are they saying it signed?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Is done? Deal? I don't know. I haven't seen it.
It's a I'll see it. I'll believe it when I
see it. They say you should fight Jake, Jake, Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
Want them problems. Be honest with you. Here's why I'm
forty one.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
It's really happening.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Yeah, I'm forty one. I'm not trying to it. Like
he's been dedicating himself for six years, five years I had.
I don't and I don't want to dedicate myself and
I don't have enough time to catch Like if I
was younger and I wanted to dedicate a couple of
years of training, then I would fight them.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, but that ain't happening.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
I jumped up when I thought I jumped off the
couch to fight that I hadn't trained since before COVID
when I when I fought uh Frank, it was two forty.
I had to get down to two fifteen so in
six weeks. So I ain't doing nothing. I ain't doing that.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
You're boxing TIBs. Oh, I can't fight tis too old man.
Till somebody grandad what I look like knocking TIBs the
funk out? You're crazy? I would look nuts. Somebody would
box Rudy boxer. I would box you go bear, I

(16:49):
would box you got a problem, Rudy go beart. Don't
like them me versus McCants. Now I want to fight streets.
I want no gloves, no.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
No what no glove? Last time you want no rule?
The last time you saw I ain't said man in
a minute. If you see yours, you saw him, it'll
be a conversation.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
First. I mean, that's whatever you want to do. That's
what I feel about it. Me. I'm like, I have
no beef, no problem. I said what I said, and
I told her I was done with it. But if
he come at me, ro that's what he can get.
But if he come in and say look right, let's talk.
All right, sit down, talk to me, have a conversation.
We do got history, you know what I'm saying. We
got history with through a lot of ship to get

(17:29):
a lot of battles. So it ain't no beef. But
if you bring it to me, I ain't running. I
can go nowhere. So I like it. That's how I
feel about it.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Someone said, Hong versus mister Chow, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I got that would be funny. I got hold on
that one. I got hold on it. Kurt Show is
boxing shows boxing, Kurt you know he got a clip
right now, I got boxes. Let me see you might
look at.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Also, I need to see you run at least a
forty forty dash before before I before I do put
money on you because you might have like I know
some guys that can't even run.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
So and his running posture might be nasty running postures athletes.
You're working with a professional, But are you an athlete? Home?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Before all this, I played, I played high school basketball.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
This whole team is Chinese.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Really yeah, there was like four bye, guys, where's your school?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
At seven?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
So I went to Asian High School. I moved to
Asian High School in Canada. In Canada, I was about
to be racist. Would I have those like I did
it a whole which I didn't know. They had to
get home in high school. I would point you to
high school. Oh my god, seventy the game would be over, bro,

(19:09):
he would They would have to run a triangle on
to start.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I would high school. I'm still getting too long. Didn't start.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I didn't start.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Okay, that's not if you came in the game, I'm
still to give you buckets. No, I was. I was
a black guy.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
I was a six man off the bench.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh so you play a minutes, play a lot of minutes?

Speaker 6 (19:26):
Yeahah okay, yeah, what what was your SAT line?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
It was usually probably like six points, four boards, probably
three steals, three steals a game. I was a defender. Yeah, okay,
I was a defender. Scrappy, scrappy, that's hard hard.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Basically, them black guys are mixed. It was mixed.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
That's at least one of them.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
What's what's what's wrong with mixed people? Oh? Yeah, mixed?
It's mixed. All right.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Listen, let's get to the is this is this considered
a poster?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
What? Hell?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Touched the rim?

Speaker 3 (20:07):
What do you mean offensive oil Jared.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Again, Blake Griffin has a lot of those, but he
didn't even touch No, Blake Griffin at least grazed the rim.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
He didn't even touched the.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Room to be able to throw the ball in the rim.
You don't think that's holding his face? Look at that.
Oh he hitim in his face.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
It was offensiveile. It didn't count. But if it counted,
is it a poster? You don't even touch the rim?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
No jam was frying? How many how many dunks did
Blake Griffin?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
I think it's some glazed room.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
He threw that one.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
And we're not talking about that game at all.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, we didn't go over the show notes, but I
mean we definitely.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Can you believe in the Rockets look good? Rockets are
really good? I think does the Rockets look good or
the Calves don't look that good? Calves have been struggling
this year though, man I told John Calves got make
a change. Bro. They reached their selling that's it.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
But also like Donovan's teams have always struggled in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I feel like we talked about this yesterday. I never
thought don had a true number two since he been
in the league. He hasn't really because nobody thought that. Like,
I feel like he did a great job of getting
that team to where they got to. Like you think
don can be a true number one, You don't. I don't.
But he don't think he can. He don't think he

(21:31):
can do. Yeah, I love him. He's a bucket getter.
He needs another guy.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
He definitely needs another guy.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Is too nice. I think.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
He's done what he's done with the team he's got
Like that speaks on his game because he's elevated everybody.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Who just don't like him, which.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Makes sense, Which makes sense of why he hasn't done
well in the playoffs, because you need more than one
player in the play like and you taught he definitely
didn't have a true number.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Can't be your number two? Y'all would have been crazy together,
y'all too.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Oh yeah, especially in today's today's game.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Trey goes there, I think they I think that changes everything.
I think it helps goes to Cleveland's defensive. You got
two big men back there that can help that. You
got perimeter five.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
And one with tre Huh Atlanta Hawks are five and
the one.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I don't care. He need a different look, and so
does Garland Saint Garland to Atlanta, said Trey, there, see
what happens. You gotta try some different because, like he said,
you already just said they reached their silly I agree
with that, so they gotta try some different. Here's my thing.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
There's two things you will I'm not going to arguebout
it because I said it on there many times. A
they traded for down two be the number one with
the pieces they have to make it work. That's supposed
to be the thing that got them over the Hawks.
No was nobody ain't nobody ever thought that when he
went there that they was the.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Final piece that you acquired.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
But you were expecting Garland and Mobiley to beat. Don't
have that, I understand. But this is my thing. We
can talk about the team right now. They aren't good enough.
They aren't good enough. You can't even confidently say they're
gonna come out the East. But at the same time
I said that last year too. Okay, you did, you did,
and they proved us right. They proved it. They proved

(23:19):
you right. But I believe that Gawland and Mobley could
take that next step. What have they took the next step?
You can't put I just can't put everything on Don
when the guys that are there aren't coming to the party.
That's all I'm saying. And that was proving it. Now.
Don didn't show up until the fourth quarter, but damn it,
he scored twenty points in the fourth course.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
So so what I would I understand points.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
My second point to do you will is that there's
only one six three guard, six three guard that's won
in the last thirty years, and that's Steph Curry. It
doesn't really happen when I say number one, the number
one the championship team, it's usually a big win. That's
that was my point. I'm not saying you can't be
a number one on the good team, on a championship
level team. The only anomally is Steph Curry, D Wade

(24:04):
six four and there's Zeke Back forty years.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Ago, whoa, whoa whoa, Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Stop Lebron was the number one.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
So let me ask you this. You think Steph can
go to Cleveland right now win a championship in his prime? Question? Yes,
you are? I think you can go right now? Chip
with Don Yes, No, I'm saying no, No, I'm saying
talking about I'm saying they switch. Could Steph go do
win with Don's team right now? No? I don't think so. Okay,

(24:33):
so what are we talking about. You have to orchestraate
eighteam just.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
Said this team is not good enough.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
No, I think it.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I think I think the pieces around. You'd have to
change some pieces around Steph for sure? Could you because Katie?
Could you flip kat and Don and him Katie win
and Katie can win? No, I think that team has
more of a chance. And with Don, Yes, I think
if you have Darius Garland, because Don and Daris are
very small, so I think you obviously put Darius at
the point where she belongs. You have a other good

(25:00):
defender at six seven, six eight, and your two, and
you have Katie.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I think you could win. Yes, I do believe that.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Did you just said Garland right? What has Garland done?

Speaker 3 (25:09):
He wasn't healthy, as you said. My point so, But
my point to you is, but I'm not arguing that.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
I just don't think there's a recipe with a six
to three guard unless you're anomally, and Steph Currer's an anomally.
With his gravity he causes on the floor and the
cause of the Warriors floor that team with the Warriors,
you just Thompson was not the same player he was.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
You just admitted Andrew Wiggins. You switched the rosters. If
you put Stephen Curry on the time, you change small pieces. Yes,
that's the same thing I'm saying about Don if you changed.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
No, but you said Don needs a legit number two.
I don't think think Stepp needs a number two. You
just need to change out. Maybe Jared Allen for.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Thompson wasn't a number two.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Not in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Jordan Poole wasn't.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Jordan two had a really good series, for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Jordan Poole for sure. But Pool was on a tear.
Andrew Wiggins was playing the best basketball All Star Andrew
Wiggins wasn't he was also. Okay, I'm trying to figure
out there.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Either of those players are legit number two for you
on any other team in the Yes or no. But
any of those players.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Are legitimate.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yes, okay, So why I put Andrew Wigins on the Lakers.
He's the number two right now? I got put him
on Denver. He's the number two.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I put him on. Guys. The biggest thing I said
is who came to the party.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
My point is Andrew Wiggins is not a legit number
two on any championship roster today.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Okay, go through the list, tell me who played well?
Go through the list who played last.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
Champions Is Andrew Wicks better than Jayleen Brown, better than
better than Andrew Wiggins, better than Chris Middleton as the
number two I'm going to play well?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Is Andrewigs better than the Wade? No? Okay, So if
you get all the numbers a whole different. What I'm
telling you is if Jordan Poole Andrew Wi against Clay Tom,
they don't fucking go to States pay Well, they don't win.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
The Warriors had a very very very good supporting cast,
but they didn't have legit number two besides Steph.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
But they didn't play well.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay, But my point is that the wars didn't have
legit number two on that team that had a bunch
of players that played well beside him, there wasn't a
legit number two every number two.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
That has been my point that no one else is
playing well and put on that roster, He's not winning championship.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I guarantee you we put down on twenty twenty two
is he winning a championship twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Wars, Yes, he's not. I don't think that. If Jay.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
He's not in twenty two steps steps defense, you're pretty good.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
May get the funk out of here. Everybody said, you watch,
you don't watch the was defending. You're just looking at
the base off his reputation.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
He was based on what the I'm looking at on
the court, I said, defended Mitchell is not a good defender.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
What are we doing here? He better? Is way better
than That's because it's your boy, bro, you.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Defending bull saw it at best like Donovan, Mitchell's sucking
a great defender.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I need, I need something to smoke. Way better is crazy?
He is way better, cyll He is way better than
Steph defender you on payroll.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
No, that's just how I feel about any six three
guards until you feel.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
About you know her worris Man. I mean, theoretically, statistically,
people under six four have nurse options, don't.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's what my point is.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
You don't see it, and Stephan crazy and only we've
never seen someone have that type.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Of gravity of that size.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
All I'm saying is somebody else coming to the party.
I think all that changes when somebody else plays with
We were thinking Todd Jeron is gonna come in there?
And who he was? Dud? It was good all season,
playing good all season, playoffs dud, we got there's gone
in the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (29:08):
Hurt.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Sorry he got hurt? What happened the year before? He
was healthy? Like ship then you had.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
He was Okay, you're saying they're hurt or they don't
have enough?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Which one is it? Both? Both? But we haven't seen it.
So can you say don't have enough? They don't have enough,
but you haven't seen it. He was injured last year
Georgia Hunter was injured. The fuck are we talking about?
What's again? The man hasn't had a chance. Okay, do
they have enough or they injured? Which one is it?
This one? We need the gloves right here? Which one?
Which one is it? I mean like that?

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Which one is it?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Do they not have? They injured? Both? All right? Cool? Both? Both?
So you think? So just a record?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
You think Donovan Mitchell in twenty twenty two of those
Warriors win, the Warriors will have a chance.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
No, do they win with him?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yes? Or no?

Speaker 3 (29:50):
That the finish Donovan Mitchell is not the same drive
that Stephan.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Curry, does Jordan disrespectful of how good Donovan Mitchell is?
It's insane to me, I'm not disrespectful. I still said
he's a legit score. I think he's a number one
on a really good team. I just told they a
championship team. How's that disrespectful?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
A number one? True?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Number one to me is guys like Bron Jokic, Steph
and those guys in that category. He's not there. How's
that disrespectful? I hear you, bro, you can't even answer
the question? Is he in that category with those guys?
Soft curries, Sleeph. Curry's top ten of all time for
some people you put in that category? So then how's
it disrespectful?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
He's not.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
There's it disrespectful?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I'm with you, all right? Cool?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Well listen, hon, this is why Charlie said that I wasn't.
I was deserved when you're on last, definitely on reserve,
all right, yo?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
So listen.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Anyways, on the Warriors, they're nine and nine. They look old.
They just they look old. It's bad?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Uh? Is it over for the Warriors? We just went
from all that to wars and nine? Well? Is it
is it done?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Can they even do anything?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Even if they could trade for Donovan, Steph for Donovan,
and they might, they might have a chance. According to Hun,
they would have a change, They would have a chance.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
No, don for sure, for sure, they don't have a chance.
I'm doing on.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
That sword niggalls turn of red. Hey, listen, there was
one thing I couldn't argue with hang about he's not
on Steph's caliber. It's top ten all time. I'm not
gonna sit here and yell with him and that that's
not true. It's not true. I'm not saying that at all.
I can't go back and forth with that argument. But
I can go back and forth to saying don hasn't
had somebody else to come play with him in the

(31:36):
playoff time. That's a proven fact, regardless of all the
yelling and shit. That's the truth. Now. Is he at
the same level as Stephen Curry as all time great? Hell?
Oh no, That's why I didn't say nothing. I'm not
I can't go back and forth to say, Nigga, Donovan
Mitchell's top ten all.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Time, like that's what That's the year that solidifies Steph
as top ten. And you're saying they would go they
have a chance to win the championship.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I said, I can't argue with that. Steph show is
greatness that year he did his fucking thing was already
he was already talk to you. He's not being there
without Jordan Poole, without Andrew Wiggins, without Draymond Green, without
all those guys who helped and know how to win
basketball games.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
And I don't disagree with that statement.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
That's all I'm saying. And ain't nobody can win this
motherfucker by theyself.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
And Steph looked at the bench and said, enjoy your
last one.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Gotta be great at some point, and he did it.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
So anyways, you guys want to talk about this after
too old, they don't know, or you want to just
jump to straight.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
The part I mean I said it. I said they
was gonna be old. They was hype about fucking O
Horford like Ship, he was thinking about retirement. It was
retirement of the Warrior. No, he did retire. He retired.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
And there's a there's a thing that's too many events.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Ship.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
We ran into that when we was when we was
with with the MAVs, like we just we couldn't get gone,
couldn't get started.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
He was older.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Ship it's like everybody when everybody's older, takes everybody a
couple of minutes to get going. You guys too, Yeah,
but I'm saying your core guys are all but coming
of Moody.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Are core guys for them?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah? Three of us we had, three of us always
had the same birthday.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
No, I hear you, guys, because it was old enough.
The three best players are old. That's the problem I took.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
That's what I'm saying. It's a long NBA season and
we're just getting started, and now we're talking about the
three Little world O. L. D. Nigga's old. We're in trouble.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
They look, is this the first month, in the first month,
and this is where POD's second month? This is where
Pa say he just wanted the keys, right, want the keys?
So here you go take these keys for today city.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I saw it. I'm gonna tell you what he's been saying.
The keys.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
He doesn't deserve the key. Listen, let's run the clips.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
It's nasty, bro Moody. I like Moody. Start Moody.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Man, he was like six or seventeen.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
What was the what is that we need to screen here?
My next gonna be No, the crazy part is it's
just like you don't you kind of chalk this up
as a loss when you sit all three of the guys,
But when you make statements like you want the keys,

(34:23):
these are the moments you gotta kind of perform. My
man looked like some ship who pods Jesus Christ. You
even though he said he want the keys to the
organization with Steph Lee, he said.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
That, he said he wants them to trust the keys. Draymond,
all of them, Joe Lacup Steve to give him the keys.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
He's the next guy.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
He has the keys to the equipment room. It's crazy
he do.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
And what's he done since? They said? Pauses? But no,
he hasn't played well. He has not played well since Moody.
Moody is hooping, Moody's balling. But I'm I don't know
how you fix it? What work? Hey? Look man, I

(35:14):
gotta give it. Got the nigga short? Sorry, it is
what it is.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Look, I don't have short syndrome.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Got short? It's you got anger? You got anger? You
We saw it one day after this, off the set.
We talked to it. But he told us though he used.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
To know, but that was different.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Though like, that's just that's not because I'm sure. I
don't you ever heard me complain about short am?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
No, he ain't about complaining about how short you. It's
just it's a thing short man syndrome. It's a thing
you got loud. You got mighty loud. I might come
across this couch you talk to me like that. That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Them always arguing like that, that's.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Oh yeah, that's what that's what they do. We always did.
I'll tell you this, though, I don't where do you
go from here with them? And I think Davis trade
get old, trade somebody. You gotta trade somebody who the
team not good? Who are you trading? ATHYK?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Davis isn't good though?

Speaker 6 (36:15):
Problems?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Who you think?

Speaker 6 (36:16):
Who's got value? All the young guys are the ones
with value?

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Who can you trade? Who can you trade to? Go
get some only person you can trade? This comical Jimmy Butler,
it's sixty. You're not trading, Jimmy. Yeah, you're not trading, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
I think you do need to. That's the only piece
is still early. It is early. You gotta figure it out,
like I mean, all they're.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Gonna do, like I said, with the regular seasons, they're
just gonna try to limp in get that ninth seed,
ten seed.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I don't think they can afford trying to fight. They
talked about it early in the year. They talked about
it early in the year that they were so gassed
in the playoffs because they have to fight to just
stay in. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, but they but they went like twenty three and five, like,
if you're sitting around there the whole time, they're not
fighting us.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I think a lot of teams have gotten better, and
I don't think you can as you can easily see
you're not going to the East and just collecting wins
no more. It just got clapped by Orlando, then they
got beat by Miami. They're better than Cleveland? Are they
better than the Knicks? You're gonna go to New York
and know if they're better.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Than trust I'm trusting them over all those teams the playoff.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I don't know they're better in Portland right now in.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
A playoff series seven games. You're not trusting talking about
playoff games. So we're talking about getting.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
To be there to be they gonna be in the
playing game.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
That's what I'm saying, though, then they gotta play number one.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
And then they got to they can get the seventh seed,
then they got to play a top two. Who's your
top two seeds? Denver them.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Okay, I don't think they're contenders. I'm just saying they
will make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
My thing is they have they have balled into they're
here to contend. Ye brought Jimmy started year. Draymond said
he thought they can possibly win, going to win the.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
Champions Yeah, that's what that's what Draymond is supposed to say.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Draymond calls he calls it the Warriors Invitational, Like that's crazy, right,
Like I'm a big Draymond fan, but that's calling it
the Warriors Invitational when we haven't won for three years.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
In twenty sixteen, you could have called the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Invitational because the world always in the words he does
have three four, but it's not the Worriors Invitational. Onto
they have to move pods, He's like, the problem is
who won't exactly his value isn't where.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
You keep saying they need to move somebody. But the
only the person that got value over there is Kamiga,
one of the older guys. That's I'm just saying, no, No,
you're right.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I looked at this tweet and me and Pel talked
about it. Seeing the fact that they didn't move pods
for Lori Marketing.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's crazy to me. It didn't. Yes, they offered it,
and that man is averaging thirty right now, basically averaging thirty.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Twenty twenty four offseason. He is for Moses Moody.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I think two picks in the second round swap, a
couple of second round swaps from what was reporters.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
They wanted pods in the deal. They said no. Hum
I would have done that deal in heartbeat.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
But Draymond is the one who said don't do it,
so he believes in them.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
No, No, that wasn't why, he says, because Danny Ainge
always fleeces people.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, that was his kind of thing. They don't trust
Danny Ainge when it comes to trades.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
He always wins the trades they put down on buddy.
Probably should put that one.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
They're in trouble. In my opinion, I've said at the
beginning of the year, I was like, we'll see where
they are in fucking January. They're old, bro, They old
as hell are did the oldest team in the league. Yes,
what Steph thirty six now? Yes, with their ankle injury already,
Al Horford can't play back to backs. Draymond got back spasms. Yep.

(39:45):
I start kicking in when you start getting round about fourteen,
they said, fucking trade pods for Agel Wilson. That's crazy.
That's see somebody like Jeremy Grant. I think you can
go somewhere and help somebody. Huh. You can't trade COMMINGA

(40:08):
that's your youth. You can You're all in.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah, I guess on Steph's timeline.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I guess if I guess, you can reveal.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
Once those guys with tire leave, you gotta try to
you gotta try to get pieces. Yeah, you gotta try
to get pieces to help them win like you could.
If you have to trade your young guys, you gotta
trade them. You're trying to You're trying to win as
long as stuff as there.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
That's just what it is. Huh.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
I don't think Jonathan's I think you.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Can get a good enough piece for him. Yes you can.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
No, I'm saying, if you're building on Comming.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
They go get Zach Levine right now. You're right don't
you go get the bonus? Does that change anything for them?

Speaker 8 (40:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Uh, I think it changes a little bit. I think
it changes, It changes, It changes with size.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Can you compete with Okay?

Speaker 1 (40:59):
See I I think I think compete at that point. Yeah,
I think bonus helps. Bonus can be a little bit
of a because he's a great Draymond could go to
a G. Now you got somebody to go to a
G if I'm utah, I'm not getting real, Lord, I'm

(41:19):
not doing that, to be honest with you. Why they
want they want? They want? They want a J. They'll
lose Laurie smack the ship at his ankle, st your
ass down. They want a J though, Yeah, but that's
the thing. If you got a J and Laurie together,
that's a Yeah. I like that. But I like that

(41:40):
Laurie got move out the way though he might. I
think Lauri can. I think I think the bonus is
the most realistic thing for them to go get. It
just gives them another weapon.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Why is it whatever, if anybody gets young to have
to move a clean house, why can't they be a
Reggie Miller role?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Why do we always say that?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
What we say like, why do we always say, whenever
they get young, we have to move all the good
pieces up. Why can't we keep someone to have to
be like Reggie Miller because they brought in Jo, They
brought in a bunch of young guys around Reggie, and
then they obviously didn't win, but they did their thing.
Why do you always have to say we have to
move all the talented players out?

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Or is that twenty nine?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Listen?

Speaker 7 (42:23):
Think about all those young guys that you they came
in with Reggie Miller, not the same fucking young guys
over there in Golden statement.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Guy, No, I'm talking about talking about Laurie.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Do that roster they came I'm talk about Loaurie.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
So if you bring obviously Keanta George is hooping, right,
you got Laurie. If you bringing you got Ace Bailey.
I like Ace Bailey. You're bringing if you bring in
a j or you're bringing obviously Darren, why don't you
Why can't you build that team out for the next
five six years?

Speaker 1 (42:49):
That's what I was thinking. But at the same time,
if they want to get off a Lorry and let
him go floor somewhere else, you're gonna get something for him.
It's its value is sky high right now. You would
get a whole lot for him right now. You didn't
get a lot for him.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I was just asking, why do you always feel like
the second we look going young, we have to move everybody?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Lad, he's not all that old.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
He's not. He's not. But I don't know if he
wants to be there. Honestly, he hasn't won there since
he's been there, bro, So you know who wants to
keep being somewhere just getting buckets? But they ain't playing
for nothing? Yeah, I guess so you know he was
in Chicago, went playing for nothing, like so at some
point I feel like he probably just want to win,
try to play for something.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
He's averaging thirty right now, so his value is high.
So he's like, man, let's see if a contender team
will come get me that needs a piece right now?

Speaker 6 (43:36):
Problem is what that what that contender team has to
give up to get him?

Speaker 1 (43:39):
True? M that's true.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
They ain't gonna be contender after probably unless you're okay,
see okay, three picks this year?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Okay, see don't need it.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Okay has three picks?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
That's crazy, man, Okay, he got three picks, bros.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, it might be the best GM ever ever might
be this legend. Just think about it.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
I know he did.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Then he built the okay see core twice, the original one. Yeah,
then he built twice times. He does it in a
small market.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
If you really think about it, and he can rebuild
it again if he wanted to. And it's yeah, and
it's okay, see think about it's okay. See, nobody's coming
to play there, Nobody wants to compleat there. But he's
gotten everybody. He knew that. Think about that Press, he's
in the conversation for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
People throw Jerry West. Jerry West is up there too.
Jerry West is definitely everything Jerry West.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Every team he's touches had pretty had success.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
So Jerry West is up there. But Sam Press's Yeah,
the Paul George trade did fuck up the league. We
didn't know that, not that it wasn't worth it, but
looking back on it, the league I wasn't worth it
for who wasn't worth for the Clippers because for okay
see as well, and a bunch of picks that's for
sure worth it.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
It's all handsight though, That's what I said. It wasn't
like when you saw it at that time. You were like, oh, ship,
is that how you felt? Listen, everybody, I'll tell you
something with that. That Clippers team, I'm gonna be a
complete honest I think if it doesn't go to the bubble,
I think they win it. They were cold and they

(45:12):
were healthy. The Lakers are really good though. Yeah, Lakers
are really good defensive. Lakers team was put together well,
they was put together real well. Yeah, they had a
legit point guard who kind of who Lebron listened to me.
That means a lot.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Let's run the rage on clip.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I love this ship. You saw that.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Stop us when you hear a better pastor than you.
Jason Williams, Penny Hardaway, Baron Davis, Rod Strickland, Gary Payton,
Andre Miller, Bob Coosey, Tim Hardaway, Oscar Robertson, Mo Cheeks,

(45:58):
Pete Merrivich, Isaiah Thomas, Mark Jackson, Chris Paul john Stockton,
Steve Nash, Jason kidd, Lebron, James Magic Johnson.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
So y'all, let's talk about it. You guys are obviously
both great point guards. You all played together one year.
What you guys thoughts like.

Speaker 7 (46:31):
Like the confidence, Yeah, that's my dog right there. But
that's if you know, if you know though, you that's him,
like he'll give a fuck like I ain't. Nobody's a
better passing than me. That's just who he is, if
you know him, that's his personality. That was dying loud
with the way better now, way they weren't way better

(46:51):
than though. I would personally take jks for you. He's
up there, he's up there, He's he's.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Up there, I would say, I would say, I would say,
I got J Kidd in one. I got magic up there. No, no, yes,
I'm tripping my fault magic ship. That's magic number one,
Magic number one? You got? How do you not have
the all time assist leader of all the time by like.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
Nobody would ever catch it? Ever, nobody is more elementary? Right,
It wasn't flashy, but that balls.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Yeah, so what so we got everybody here is magic one?
You guys got I.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Got stocked up there. I got J Kid up there
for sure above him. Yeah, and then I think, yeah,
he's top five, top five, he's top five. Steve Nash,
Steve's up there. I think, yeah, I think you, I
think that's the top five.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Talk about battling with and how how that was no.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
I mean he could pass the ball and his the
smart he's very smart.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
But the way they played too is just perfect for
him pushing that temple because he could run all day
get you in that track. He was like he had
athletes out there.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
He was like, stuff, bro, you hate it. You had
to get your sleep that night before you place. You
never stop moving? God d do y'all think y'all played
longer if y'all played the point guard position like today,
where you didn't have to guard your matchup.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
Hell yeah, I'm getting hit them screens. You getting hit
them screens, trying to get over picks and sticking them
big old legs out hitting your ass. Probably my hip
fucked up now.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Now?

Speaker 7 (48:36):
For real, though we didn't like every night we stepped
on the court, we had a guarden point guard. It
wasn't no, hey, we're gonna hide you in the corner.
You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't have done that
anyway me either, you know what I'm saying. Like, No,
for real, though you guys wanted to smoke, not a
lot of players do well.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
It's just all analytics now, yeah, bro.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
But also I didn't a lot of a lot of
games I had two and three's guarded me because I
was gonna put whoever was in the post.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, but I still match up with them, got you? Yeah,
Like Ray never guarded me. He know, he lied like
a motherfucker. He know he lies.

Speaker 7 (49:17):
Remember where Ray Hall stepped to fifty four man? Funk
out of here?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Who the two stops at the end though? To win
the game? Who the better passes? Look, I don't know
what he said, who are better passes?

Speaker 6 (49:35):
I think I averaged more sis yeah per game?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Really? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (49:40):
I mean I had twenty twenty ten three years in
a row.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
I think he was like twenty and at least nine if.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
I would have played longer, and my career kind of
didn't at the end because I was I was twentieth
of all time and assist.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I don't know where I'm at. I said, will easy, right, damn,
it's easy now. He was a diameter though. I ain't
gonna lie. I tell you what. You're not getting a rebounds.
You know that's because big back then, because we had
real gigs. You can't. You still don't rebounds they on
your ass. We have real Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Also the game of slower lest shots.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, that rebounds we're talking about the other day leaking
out as well.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
You don't hear Floppy no more. No, they don't run
that ship no more. And he played with Booze. We
was talking about Booz the other day. We was talking
about his son. Yeah, like his to me, Boo Boo's
son is just like him. He has to be in
the right system. I love his game. I think he's
a good player, but you can't just put him on
any team. And like people talk about like his his ceiling,

(50:44):
like where is his ceiling at?

Speaker 5 (50:45):
Like he's already kind of like he's ready for the
league now exactly exactly where how how much better than
he can he get as opposed to kid from b
YU like big up sign, big up side.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
That's that's the biggest issue for him. That's what I said, though.
He has to be in the right system. He has
to be in the type system like his dad played
in with you. A great point guard, a diamond that
he can hit shot some. I know that what I'm saying.
So I think he'll be I think he's he's got
the ability to get his own shot.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
Seen cope, man, he ain't compete. You saw what he
did to your fellow.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Was that nice? Nice? What do you say?

Speaker 3 (51:25):
No, I'm just saying because you took.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Illinois. Yeah, ARCUPI his son is good, bro, His son
is good. But he put a ball on the floor
to something his daddy could really do like that, you
could put it on the floor a little bit decent.
He wasn't, I mean, well crafty. He didn't have to.
He played with but he didn't really want to.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
It was more pumped fact to get to the one
one dribble, step back or something quick. He still want
to shoot that thing.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
But his son cold. I like to say, what's the
first that you went into the playoffs? I played with
when I was with the Cavs we lost to the Warriors,
and seven before that it was Western Conmence Finals with
the Jazz. My second year again Lakers. No, we lost
to San Antonio. They end up sweeping Cleland.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Was how you guys beat the we Believe Dubs?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Right? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, we believe? Was that the
b D dunk? Don Carolyn? Come? Yes? It was Oh
my god, I remember that. That was his whole face.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
The next year we played in first round, our first
game of the season, and they had pictures, posters, on
the every chair of it his forum, Ak's nose smashed.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
I'm like, come on, man, y'all get the dub. The
first game Ship I don't remember.

Speaker 6 (52:47):
I don't remember what happened yesterday.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
It was to be wondering all these people be telling
these stories and ship Man, like Jeff t great storytellers.
I don't remember, storyteller. I remember certain things people got
to remind me of Ship to happen.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
God, he was nice, he was good. He was good.
He had a team for this. We all had a
team for this generation. We did because we Paul's we
couldn't match up with the link that like the Lakers. Yeah,
uh yeah, faced them out, though.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
It would have been a different, different game. We also
coach Sloan hated quick shots. Mm hmm, even when Kyle
got there, Like he didn't want Kyle Korver taking quick shots.
Kyle will do it anyways. Yeah, but Kyle got a look,
Kyle should have.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
Been shooting probably twelve threes a game, ten threes.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
A game, easy. Easy. I'll tell you. It's rocking in
Utah in the playoffs, but it's also racist, fucking there.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
Everybody says that, y'all y'all. Oh, it's bad, it's bad. Huh,
witnesses crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I don't hear.

Speaker 7 (53:57):
They banded. They banned to a Colo for calling Russell monkey.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, I remember. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
I'm not saying it ain't never happened, but everybody, like
around the league says, so it's obviously been more than one.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
That was my first instance with the Utah fan. Like
this happens numerous times. You be walking on that siland
they say some crazy ship. Bro, crazy, I don't. I
don't see that, you know, I still spend time there
every time I played in Utah. Say to your face,
they're gonna say it from ten rolls up. We used
to always pick out see, I mean black people we

(54:31):
can find. You want to serve us at Bennie Hunters,
who wouldn't We went there with me? It was like me,
Russ PG, Stephen Adams. It was like eight of us. Bro.

Speaker 7 (54:42):
We went there was in the playoffs and we did
to go eat. They won't serve us, they say, they said,
they said we were packed. So Steven Adams walked in
there like what't nobody he walked in there? There was
nobody in there, Bro. It might have been four people
in there the whole place, I said there, No, I
guess there was.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I guess there was. Like we played on the playoffs.
We ain't feed.

Speaker 6 (55:07):
Like damn, I should have gave y'all the ship they
gave Jordan's.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
That ship was crazy. How are you trying? How you
food poorsing? Somebody? Start bench? Trade Clay Ray Allen? Reggie Miller? Oh,
h Allen? Who Reggie Miller? Clay? That's tough, you know,
you know what the hardest thing is, Like, you can't Clay?

(55:32):
What the third? Yeah? Yeah, I'm Clay on the bitch. No,
you're trading, trading, trading, I'm trading Clay.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, I'm probably starting Reggie.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
I think that's over Ray.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
It's just because Reggie, just because.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Of like Ray could go off the dribble too, though.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
I think you Sawbo just Pier shooting.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
I'm not going Ray basketball. What's the basketball player? Basketball players? Ray,
Reggiegie Start start Ray, bench Reggie. The way Clay is
playing right now is I think fucking up?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
My Reggie's getting cut?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Hey, what happened? Yes to bro, he shot the ball
in the game and fucking I I mean we could
jump into its fro the clips Kurt.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I was like Clay, what it was nasty though, there's
a bunch of miss free throws, bad turnovers.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
That was It was a rough game at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
It was nasty, Bro, how much free throws the next
miss for?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
You know that this is the next first row win
of the season. First. Yeah, Nicks ain't been that great either, Bro,
I don't know what's going on with my Knicks.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
This honestly didn't tell me about anything about either team.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Hey d loo hoopy yesterday he did get to it.
I got a question when you when teams are firing
these coaches and then the next team just hires them
the next year, how does that work? Ew, Like, that's
what you're talking about. That's what you mean, Like, why
are they hiring them?

Speaker 5 (57:10):
Why theycles? Yeah, I mean the pool is small of
elite level coaches, Like, it's not it's not like they
just they're just everywhere growing on trees.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, but why would you not give somebody else like
younger dude like number one, Huh.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Can you take on a chance on New York? I
think you can take a chance on a bad team.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
But like with New York, like I said, I don't
think Mike Brown is a bad coach, right, but he's
gotten let go for them a lot of teams already, right,
So at that point it's the recycling of the like
why not give somebody knew that opportunity, just like okay,

(57:53):
see who knew he was going to be a great coach.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
I feel like I feel like people are doing that
Will Hardy like Mo's like it happens, but there is
always going to be number one. There's a lot of
pressure on the GM to hire the right guy that
fans are gonna want that you know what I'm saying,
respected proven track record record, because if you go out
there for a guy who who hasn't done it and

(58:16):
know what they're doing, they start sucking up.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
It's on you now, your jobs on the line. So
I think that's that's part of the reason.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
I would say too. I think Mark the know was
brought up in the OKAC system.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (58:28):
A lot of head dues?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I think I think is everything too. They were bad
and he was able to implement what he wanted to
do for two years before they end up being who
they are now.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
And I think for obviously is a Knicks, is Westchester
a good development program like the Okay, okay, he has
an elite player and I guess staff the.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
Knicks are cursed, bro, that's what. That's really what.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
I have a point, So.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I think only certain organizations will be good at developing
out of there they're cursed.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Who's out of there? Nasty? Yeah, I can't that. I
don't know why they're not playing well to watch your mouth. Well,
it's true. It's the same thing.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
York is Jerry Jones is not nothing about New York
that's got I love New York.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
That's the mecca. My favorite place to play is that building.
I'm just talking about that organization as a whole is cursed.
It's kind of like and Brooklyn might be right behind him.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, best European, that's a good one. Yeah, Draws and
Petrovich Luca or Dirk draws and was cold. I got
Dirk though, I got.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I got Dirk right now. Luca could overtake that by
the end of his career and then Draws and just
because his career was cut short obviously.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
But that's wrong.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Though.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
We gotta have long as to be in that conversation
probably over about it just starting for me all no
disrespect to Will.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Palkaso very I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Think Pakastan's in that conversation though, it's not for me.
Give me a look what you think.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
He is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Good, greatest of all time, but not the greatest. Conversation Luca,
That's what I'm saying. It's the greatest European of all time.
He's not in the conversation. How that was a great European.
He's not one of the greatest all thought you said
he was the greatest europeon No, no, no, no, Pow
was a beast, but he's not in that conversation. Let's
talk about Obviously, the MAVs got a lot of drama

(01:00:43):
going around. Mark came out yesterday and said they're not
moving a d they want to win now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Thoughts. Oh, I think that's just something he's saying for
the media. I think they moved him tomorrow for the
right right piece. Thank you say like he's untradeable, Like
come on, you have to say those things. But behind
the scenes, he's taking a whole bunch of phone calls

(01:01:10):
right now. It's phone out off. He collected emails. I
know you got to contact Mark by email. He looking
at them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
He will pick up the phone, He's gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Pick that motherfucker up. I just think it's what's crazy
is I think what's unfortunate He ain't worth two bags
a week.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
He ain't worth two ounces.

Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
But you know, but you know what's crazy is that
what's what's unfortunate is that star Wilde bro What's unfortunate
that Anthony Davis is a really fucking good basketball player.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
If he's if he played two games it was healthy,
he's top five player. Yes, yes, yes, in this game
he's really good. Man is so good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
He's top temp for sure, top five though I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
He has never he hasn't been healthy since they won
the championship with you. If he's healthy, mm hm, yes,
I think he's the top five player in this game.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
If I knew, if I knew, I could get.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Eighty two games out of him taking them over Jannis, yeah,
I would for sure. The big thing is he is
not healthy. So that's why I said up there, that's yeah,
like you said, if you knew he was getting from
eighty two and you had Giannis and a D, I'm
taking a D. That's how good someone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
If someone was healthy, If Kaui is healthy, I'm picking
Choie over both of them, so he's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Not in my top five. Like if Kaui is healthy too,
I'm picking Koi over both of them. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
I don't know how over Jannie is A D does it?
I don't know. It's the worst thing is that injuries
make you look at players from a different like instead
of remembering like this dude. The reason I say I'm
taking over Honest is because of his offensive package.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
He can shoot. Joannis can't shoot, so in it becomes
a liability. Yeah, Joannie won one, it's gonna be hard
for him to get another one. As the ages, it's
gonna be hard, like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Only got one too. He does, but I understand where
guys are coming from. Eighty is way more talented offensively, Joannes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Is it gonna win a championship unless they get another
guy the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Same thing with A Yeah, I think both of them.
But I'm saying why I would pick like a healthy
a D over a healthy Honest.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
So let's say let's say the MAVs play this whole
season out right, and do you what do they need
to be better if they want to keep the same team.
Do you think they keep the same team with Kyle.
They're fine.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I think they're they're I think they're top five, top six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
I don't think that team ever wins a championship. I
think they definitely need another piece. Yeah, they need another piece.
They need another guy that can go get a bucket. Yeah,
they need another guy get a bucket.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
So isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Not to win chip? Not the winner? I like d level,
but not to win the chip. He's probably good. He
might be a good backup now to be a.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
Solid six man. Yes, bringing them off the off the
bench and letting them get get to work.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
So you're saying you need a better two guard off
the bench, I mean to start.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Because you don't always need it. Like with the pieces
they have, you don't need a you need a three
and D guy at two.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Well that's what I'm thinking. But you both saying they
need a score. Where do you slot that defender? You
gotta move PJ?

Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
Yes, Yeah, somebody that got some value. PJ lovely because
to me, he's not giving Dallas nothing. They're lively not
giving Dallas nothing. I'm watching them every night. He's not
giving them nothing. Bro, He's not boy, am I lion?
You're right he's not giving them ship. I wish I
wish he had such a hot ceeling for him. I

(01:04:57):
wish CV was here, I know, because he was like,
they're not you really Lovely. You can't get really Lively.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
See he said he wouldn't trade Lively for Lively, that
the Cooper pick, and like PJ Washington for honest some
some dumb ship like that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
Yeah, but let's Cev's job to say something, to say
some wild Outlanders ship.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Lovely has not been playing well. So who you guys
going after? You going after Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Levin? Mm hm yeah that helps? Yeah, that helps.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
I just think it's tough with with Kyrie's injury, with
a D's injuries, Like, it's just gonna be tough for them.
If you can ever stay ever stay healthy for the
whole season.

Speaker 7 (01:05:41):
If you could pull off a trade to get exact
Levine and the bonus to Dallas for PJ Lively, Marshall,
just you know, a few guys, would you do that?
There be some picks in there if that's possible. Yeah,
would you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Probably? Yeah, if you're trying to go because Ad wants
to play the four anyway he comes back or Kyrie.
I would do it, but.

Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
Sacramento ain't doing nothing, so they have to do some changes. Dallas, Dallas,
Dallas need to make some changes too. You know, obviously
they not Cooper is not not going to be touched,
so Kyrie is not going to be touched. So and
I think they want to try to win right away,
so they're gonna keep a d So if you can
bring some pieces in right now while he's injured so
they can start back winning, I think you have to

(01:06:33):
take a look at that. And you got to look
at teams that a struggling as well. Sacramento is struggling.
That shit ain't working, so thee some different over there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Soon.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Made a great point in the chat. Does Lively look
worse because he doesn't have Luca?

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah? I mean, you don't got no point, God, yeah,
of course. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
But that's what does Livey really look better? Is the
situation that's part.

Speaker 7 (01:06:56):
But listen, but listen though, listen. I understand what the
chat saying. I understand what you're saying. But being a
player that played in this league, you have to fucking
figure it out because in any day, it's still him.
If you look like shit, how you're gonna go get
an extension. Oh I don't have a point guard. Well, ship,
if you don't have a point guard on the next team,
to fuck with that puzzy. You can't perform, you can't

(01:07:17):
figure it out and go go go grab go say
all right, I can't I can't get a lib a
few points this game. Well I'm gonna go get twelve
thirteen rebounds a game. But wouldn't go dominate the board
like you have to find ways to make yourself productive
even if you don't have a point guard, like you're
just something wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Wouldn't teams be like, we have good point guard, so
we should go sign him. Don't a lot of teams
do that? Well, that's possible when he looks good? Is
this is this a situation looks good? We have that situation.
Let's so let's go sign him. Don't a lot of
teams do that?

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
That's true, Yeah, that's possible. But I'm just saying though,
even when he had Luca, he I mean that was it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Was it that much? Was that great? Well, we looked
at it yesterday too. They got a money problem over
there too. They got a mass they gotta some money,
some money problem coming up, so they might have to
just get rid of these guys to not be over there.
I think PJ is the one because they said p
J Money is the one that's really that. He just
signed an extension for like ninety Look at CV, I'm

(01:08:16):
trading lively a SAPs CV. You're you're listen, take another
week of p t O. I can't believe he need
saying that. You say you live he was? That is crazy,
just getting roasted on air for that. Yeah, hang on

(01:08:39):
his boy back always. You want to go through for
pulling up and blessing the pod. They said, somebody asked,
what teams do we think should tank right now? The
Mavericks dam you know, and ky back Utah probably anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
But you know why the shoul they need to tank
to this year is because they don't control their draft
picks for the next i think three years after this year.
So if the Mavericks want to get something this, they
gotta tank this year. They don't own their twenty seventeen.
Twenty eighteen is a swap, I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
So who Dallas, No, who Dallas? Who Dallas gonna get?
If Dallas getting number taking in trying to compete for
who the most asked.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
If Dallas get the number one pick, I'm picking Darren Peterson.
You already got Coop, Darren Peterson. If you somewhat keep.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Kai and Coop, you can't pass up AJ.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
People are saying they can pass up a J. I
mean you could. Darren Peterson is like that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
We gotta find dam Peterson is like that, But what
you mean, we gotta find a lot of people saying
I like Darren Peterson?

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Who Darreon Peterson is like that? A lot of people
are saying it might be Darren over AJ.

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
That's what I've heard too from a couple of people.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
But I find it hard to pass up on a
J because he's six A and the tools he has.
But a lot of people saying there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I kind of see. I like Darren Peterson, he's a
he's a hooper.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
But I think it goes back to what you're talking
about earlier with guys.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
But there in six six, that's right, he has six
he's on He's six six.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Sixty five, right, six six six, yeahs, so he should
be on the next That should be our next segment.
What did we started? Who the most asked team week
the Pacers Easy Washing. Have you seen the King from
Virginia take do, but.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
They're asked, they're both ass Have you seen the kid
from top five?

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Nice? Everybody said, it's like there's like nine nine guys.
It's a lot more than the nine ten guys. Forgot Taylor.
He's six six eight. He plays like Lucas Nicola from Virginia. Take.

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
I watched more college basketball because I watched zero.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
You gotta watch Copete. What I saw from that kid
last night. He's a doll.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
My god, I saw the highlights.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Is he gonna yes, Yes, he has a he has
a motor. We got a motor.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
That's That's how many of these guys will actually transmit
the league. I think a lot of these guys will start.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
I think top teen with the top ten players that
go this year will actually play on the team. They
will help right away. First team guys has picked you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Got cold, so you guys say Cold contributed immediately. I
think Derek can contribute immediately. Kayler Wilson could play defense,
I think, and he attributed. A j for sure will
contribute immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
I think Boozer will too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
There's five guys that can contribute on a team today.
I mean not today, but probably at the end of
the year.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Hey, look, I'm gonna tell you this draft us. I
don't know, like there's some teams that are asked ass
he's still on. I'm looking at these how Indiana got
a win last night, didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
He with the Are you sure you still don't want
to take your bio with Charlie. We're gonna talk Repelicans.
We're gonna talk about that on Monday, after seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
That picture of the seats. But Derek Queen is nice.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Though, he's good. He was nice in Maryland. So Washington's
one and thirteen, Indiana's two and thirteen, Brooklyn's two and twelve,
Charlett's four and eleven, New Orleans two and thirteen, Sacramento,
Sacramento is so sad. That might be the most disappointed
one at all them, three and twelve, Dallas four and twelve.

(01:12:27):
I don't even know if Dallas tries to lose now,
if they're even still going to get a top ten
pick with all these ass teams. It's a lottery system.
But you know it's true. There's a lottery system, and
you know Dallas is the top.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Five market in America. Adam Silvill will make it work.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Point made it work this year, work this year. I
feel bad for any player that's getting it going in
his top five to go to Washington or the fucking King.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
But I think only the only the bottom, only the
top three have a chance. I think after that, everybody's
in line in the lottery. Yeah, so if you're if
you're the fourth worst, you'll get the fourth best pick.
I believe could be wrong. Oh it used to be
the rules.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Are you taking? Are you taking? If you the maps,
you're scrapping this ship. Yeah, because they're not gonna win
this year. It's gonna even if Kyrie comes back January,
it's gonna take him another He's a couple of months.
He's gonna come back, but he's.

Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
And like, is he after Achilles?

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
His age? Is he gonna be k You know what
I'm saying. There's always that question too.

Speaker 7 (01:13:24):
If you look at the season, there's no way he
comes back this year. Just go ahead and stay healthy,
get yourself right, work out, have a good strong workout
the summer, and play some pickup. Get yourself going. Come
in the season next year ready to go. I don't
think he plays this whole year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
I don't think they already said he could play today,
He's gonna be right in January.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Though, It's like January's extended.

Speaker 7 (01:13:44):
The fact that he said he can play today. And
if you see the record in January, if they're still
fucking ten and thirty two, why would the funk would
he play? If they trade a D Why would Kyrie
stay here?

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Yeah, he's not.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Would you stay Okay, put you all in that situation.
Would I want to say, would you stay here? Junior?
You in your career where Kyrie is right now, still
playing at a high level, trying to win, are you
staying here? I wouldn't. Yeah, I'd probably, I'd probably look
to explore other options to get back a Yeah. But
like at that point, if Kyrie is ready to play,

(01:14:21):
I don't see him being like, all right, I'm gonna
see what y'all can do them in the draft that
what they do in the off season. You still got pieces,
you still got pieces that you can trade. But at
this point, he's in championship mode. That's why they did
what they did. So at that point, get me to

(01:14:41):
a team that can win. If I know, I know
this might not happen, but if goes to Houston, my god.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
He's gonna have to give back one of the pieces, though,
So who are you giving.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Up a man? Yepkay ye Amen, a man in Cooper
by bye. Amen, you can be going.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
They would be elite defensively though.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
If you could get if you can find a way
to not get rid of Amen, and look, you are
going to need a piece. Would I give up? Saying
goon no inin't no way, ain't no way. Kyrie coming
off of Achilles a c C, I mean a c

(01:15:28):
L no way, no way, no way. I gotta think
about it, d bro, I gotta talk about it. I
don't know if I can say no way that fast.
I don't know if I end I know who he is.
Mm hmm. Kyrie's injury prone, Yeah, you're right, but if

(01:15:52):
he's not, he's that injured. I gotta look at that
over the Theoretically, I still wouldn't give up, though, I
just don't know if I give I give him a
man and for sure Amen talking about that, and that's
why I said no, Amen and Jabari, I'm giving them
two up. I think.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
I also don't think Houston's win now mode no no,
no no.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
I'm saying if they don't win, they still have another
ten years to figure it out around their court.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
No, no, no, no, no, agrees with me. Yeah, trade baby,
you guys are saying.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
You guys are saying if they don't win the next
two years and Katie retires, just say, they still don't
have time to figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Those guys are both twenty two, twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
No, they got some young talent. Kevin Durant. I'm not saying.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
I'm not saying that they don't want to win. They
can tool and rebuild.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Did he sign an extension? He did.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Oh, they're trying to win for sure. But I'm saying
if they fail.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
If they failed this year, yeah they got you got
time to try to win. Charlie. Charlie can't say nothing, right, Bro,
stay over there in your healthy bro he bro, we
will be sitting here talking about literally basketball. He was like, No,
that's how.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Charlie shout to Charlie, h CV, we know you back
in to Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Didn't win. That is not you know the schedule. Oh
you got his got his location, You got got his location.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I mean we texted, We texted. He said, man's huh,
that's my boy. Just like both you guys are like
just like both you guys are.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
The cars having his location? That's crazy his location? Yeah,
show hey listen, First of all, Reed Shepherd, my boy,
he can shoot double. You are ball and you apologize.
I did. I'll apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
We really we all, we really do all a real
apology to quin and Grime himself. We kind of brushed
over that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
No, he still should have signed O the money.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
I don't know the way he's ooping right now. He's
gonna get more than that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Possibly he's gonna get more than that twenty five It
wasn't it was twenty five million a year, would you No, No,
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
I think it was a twelve million dollar extension we
were talking about when they gave him like a four
year fifty or something. Remember, I think that's what we're
talking about, right. No, Remember we said he should have
still should have took that deal as well. But yoo,
I'm gonna put you on the spot, Kurk. Can you
pull up the the Nico and Mark drama? Oh shit,
he was a part of this roster. Nico Harrison reportedly

(01:18:45):
blames Mark Cuban for the Mavericks losing important players like
Christian Wood and Jalen Brunson. Harrison blamed Cuban for what
he believed were the MAVs biggest personnel mistakes during his tenure,
which came in summer twenty twenty two, allowing Jalen Brunson
to get away in free agency and trading for Christian Would,
a player Kid didn't want to coach and resented having
on the roster several members of the coaches have in

(01:19:06):
front off. This also faulted Cuban for those moves. You
were in the locker room, sir, Any any comments?

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Be honest, My niggas walked through the thing. That's how
I looked at him, go through the other ways.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
So it was what I mean, basically, christian Wood was
a bad move and a lot of people didn't like
didn't like the christian Wood move.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
J Kid wasn't happy about it. Uh See what didn't fit?
Where is seawood right now? At home?

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Maybe international, overseas probably.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
I mean, it simply didn't fit. I was, like I said,
I was there. It just did not go well. Just
good dude, good dude. But on the court, it's just
it didn't flow well. See what definitely wanted his numbers
because he wanted to get that extension. Y'all know that

(01:20:05):
when it's extension time, it can go two ways. It
could either be you bought into the team and the
team succeed and then you get paid, or it could
be a situation where he's trying to get his numbers
and do that. So tried just didn't work because see
what the talent is there. He was fucking he was good.

(01:20:27):
He was a very good player. It just never worked out.
It was nasty. I ain't gonna hold you. It was nasty,
and it was a good move for getting the matter
of there. Yeah, I mean, people everyone talking shit. That
happened a year that I was there. We didn't. They
got Lively in the pick. Likely next year they went

(01:20:49):
to the finals. So who was right, Nico? They reported that,
They reported that to make Nico look bad and then
proved that Nico was right. You can't just credit what
Nico did the finals and then went to the finals.

(01:21:13):
Since he's been GM so what in years? Obviously he
made he did one of the craziest trades ever, but
he's done some great ship since he's been there. Like so,
I don't really understand like that report that, you know
what I mean? After that trade. Obviously, you know that
that was that was the reasoning. But before that, they
was fucking loving Nico. Yeah, let's just be honest. It

(01:21:35):
was loving him, And be honest, we always Max Christy
is a player. So they also got Max Christie and
I think Max Christy he's a hooper. Bring up that
graphurd try Clay back to Golden State.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
There's this long article which I read very article. They
were the original graphic you just had.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Kurt Mark has been planning a police coup for a minute,
what a palace, which means just, yeah, rid of trying.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
To get rid of Nico.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
And then obviously there's a lot of reports that Nico
didn't want to deal with Mark. It's kind of a
crazy situation. Mark was planning this for months to try
to get rid of him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Planning this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
That's that's what the article says.

Speaker 7 (01:22:16):
Planning to fire somebody is crazy and y'are supposed to
be working together, right, That sounds fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Yeah, So Mark's been trying a palace coup for months,
which means he's been trying to get rid of him
for months.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
It's like basically taking over. It's like a coup d'ta.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
So he's gonna be the GM now.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
That's basically what happened, and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
He's back in making decisions now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
They say that Marks because before they exiled Mark because
Nico said didn't want to deal with him Nico, and
because of the finals run, the owner, Patrick Dumont or
DuPont Is Dumont whatever Patrick said, basically trusted Nico implicitly
because the finals run.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Anything he said was like gold.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
It was reported in this article that when he said
let's trade, he didn' question him, didn't ask another opinion.
He said, okay, cool, I trust you. So they askediled
Mark because Nico.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
That's not true. So if you go watch my podcast
right your race just put out a pot with Mark yesterday.
He said that when he got the call from Nico,
hey look we're gonna trade, Luca, he heard it and
he would there was no room to talk about it
at that point. He could tell it was already done.

(01:23:28):
But it was no It was no him talking him
out of it or nothing. It was already done. It
was just letting him know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
But that's what the article said, is that I know
you said it wasn't true. We're saying that you just
said me. Technically, it's not true. What I'm saying is
that Patrick trusted Nico implicitly, so when he made the
call to trade for trade Luca for a d there
was no questions.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
It was just like, okay, cool, I trust you get
it done.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Who you? Who are you talking about? Pat?

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Or I'm talking about Nico called Pat, I.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Was talking about Mark. I thought you're talking about telling
the story. I was talking about Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
You're saying it's not true what I'm saying. I'm saying this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
He was talking about Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
No, No, the story adds up because Nicole did not
have ton't just made a call to Patrick said I'm
doing this, I'm making the deal and Nicole Patrick didn't
go there anybody exactly, but he trusted Nico, like like
with his life. When it came to the ship, Mark
had no idea. So what I was playing to hell
is that Mark has been on the outside the entire time.
Now he's back in the room and he has to

(01:24:27):
saying what happens exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
So at that point, Martin had nothing to do with
that because we all know if Mark was there, they
wouldn't happened. Ain't no damn way that was happening. No chance,
but it happened. Now we know Mark. There's no way
Mark is sitting here and't gonna just let this ride.

(01:24:51):
I think he's moving to everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
This teem does not sucking.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
I think he's moving everybody, everybody meaning players, player. I
think he's moving players.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
DeLong and uh and Claire the first up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Well, you're not get much for Clay right now?

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Those are those two are the first up. Golden State,
take him back, Golden Sale, take him back.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
You're gonna get older?

Speaker 8 (01:25:18):
What do that?

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Let's get older?

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Feel Let me ask you this question. Did we say
it was a good move?

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
No? No, I agree. I said that if they man that,
that'd be crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
But it's also confidence. Right, Maybe Clay goes back to
Golden State. He looks a lot better.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Maybe, man, if they throw out a damn Clay Stephy
Ray Jimmy lineup and ow, oh man, they better had
that damn trainer gonna be helped going fluid.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Yeah, uh, Rick Celebin or whatever. But anyways, I saw this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Tweet that PT gonna be put the work.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
I saw this tweet that's Shade Shay's case for MVP's
weekend because he hasn't played he's only played seven fourth
quarters because his team is so good, and so it
should automatically go to Jokic because he's to play fourth quarters.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
Yeah, but there's a reason why they don't have to
get to the fourth quarter. He's the biggest reason why.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
That's the argument is does that hamper him because this
team is so good?

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:22):
But if that's the case, then like the criteria should
have changed a long time ago, because there's a lot
of guys who weren't on the top team that probably
should have been the MVP, but they didn't because their
team wasn't the best.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
And the problem. The problem too is to his defense,
he's still averaging thirty and not playing fourth quarters. Yeah,
that's impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Yeah, and there's no JDB too, So they're saying, how
lead is this team really compared to how valuable is
this team? Which I agree. I don't think that the
MVP should go to the most the best team. I
think it should go to plays.

Speaker 10 (01:26:55):
More your MVP right now, say I got Luca, Right now,
I got Luca. I do got Luca too.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Thirty five he's rounding up. I'm running rounding up today
right where are they right now? They're like third in
the Western thing. I think it's nick and neck with
him and Jokic.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Shanon Lkic are talking about Luca.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Luca and Jokic. Cha's number three for sure. Yeah, Luca
Luca don't defend. What the hell does that have to
do with m VP.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
They're fourth after yesterday because the Rockets one, so they're
eleven to four, really good record. But if Okac wins
seventy games, it's hard to not give share the MVP
because they don't pay to win seventy games. Right now,
they're fourteen to one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
They don't pay to win seventy five games.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Yeah, it's gonna be hard not to give them. If
they win seventy games, do they get.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
The twenty wins before they lose win? Who lose another one?
I don't know who who they got coming up? I
guess it really don't matter. If Luca continue to average
thirty five, if he ever, if he has some, if
he's the highest point leader, he's probably gonna be scoring
champions year. If he's scoring champion this year and their
top three in the East, he's winning it, they will
be They've been waiting to get a luk at MVP?

(01:28:13):
Am I wrong? Still Fields?

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
I think they've been waiting to give him an MVP.
Of course, the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Narratives will all be around losing. He's remember the narratives
around his revenge tour. He's lost away, he's in the
bigger market.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
All the narrors are gonna be pushing for her to
the MVP.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
What'd you about to say?

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Their schedule Utah, Jazz, Dubb, Trailblazers, probably a dub Timberwolves
at home, probably a dubbed Sons, probably dub and then
Trailblazers at Portland. They probably don't lose another game. The
only game I can see them losing theirs with the Wolves.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Who is this? Okay see Okay see, Yeah, they give
you twenty wins before? Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
I think when the Dubs won it, they were twenty
four games before they lost their first game, but then
they had a little bit of a slide, but they
were twenty four and then Milwaukee beat them.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
You think the Lakers can win the championship? I don't
see him beating I don't see him beating okay see or.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Denver this year. What they need to do, look we
heard from Will. Are you trying to say they need
to trade Broun? Is that where you're where you're going
through yesterday. I don't think you have to trade Bron.
I think you gotta trade, really trade who really?

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
What does that do for you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
I think you need to put people around him that's
gonna do the extra. You gotta find somehow Hartenstein type
of guy. You gotta find it. I don't mind. Mark
is smart there, but it's still nasty. Defensively, I'm trying
to not say Trey Bron, I really am you wanted
to move Brun?

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
That's okay, sticking down down that hill?

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
I am. What do you think I'm dying on that hill?
Fuck it? I mean I can see it going. I
can see it going both ways. Like it's time. It's time, Bro.
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
I feel like you gotta at least give it one year,
like one full season, like he wasn't even there last
year wasn't a full season.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Like that's a good point.

Speaker 6 (01:30:18):
I think you got to at least give it one
season with Bron Lebron James.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
It's not like but Lebron could retire next year and
you don't get nothing for it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
That's his damn thing. Lebron is not fucking retiring yet.
Tell you all right now, imagine he does retire, play
twenty five years, Scotty. That is the biggest question right now,
who do you really try Bron for? Yeah? What do
you like? What do you really get for Bron? Because like,
what is that team goan to get? Like they're not
going to have an assurance that he's going to sign there.
That's the fact.

Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
So what the only the only reason I can see
him doing is if it's a salary dump.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
He has no trade clause. That's what I'm saying. That
he has to pick where he wants to go. It's
crazy Cleveland. I've said Cleveland multiple times, but.

Speaker 5 (01:31:00):
Nicks Nicks like that, Like there's only like a couple
of places I can see Bron.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
I said that he would go to You go to
New York too? He going to New York. That's way
too far. Mike Brown is gone. I think he would
go to Cleveland because it's home. And he would go
to Golden State because you know how he feels about
playing with Steph.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
I don't think you go to Golden State.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Why not? They're getting older. You just talking about Look,
yeh get old as hell, old as already.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
I think they're bro Like Jordan Young always gets mad
at us. I don't understand why we keep trying this narrative.
But anyways, this is what I would say to you.
He's little narrative, right. He controls every little thing about
his narrative.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
I think everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Of the community basketball community would agree with that.

Speaker 6 (01:31:51):
Is that already a nickname the narrative that's or is
that yours?

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:31:56):
I was like, I ain't heard that one.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
I heard a lot of it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
I've seen in the Twitter, I believe, but I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
I don't get on Twitter, So that's probably. So.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Do you think he'd be able to deal the narrative
go team up with Stephan Golden State? Do you think
he'd want that on his legacy? Like knowing Lebron James
how he controls everything.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Hey, listen, all I know the last time somebody was
on Lebron James podcast and Nigga became the head.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Coach, those are on his turns. He goes to the
Golden State, that's not his.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Who was the last person to be on Lebron's podcast,
Steph Curry? I'm just going off what I see. All right, man,
I mean it's not gonna hurt them anymore. It don't
hurt them no more. That's for damn sure. They like
to be they old over there. Shoot, they set.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
Up assisted living, they can set up a litt assisted
living space.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Who's playing defense on that team? Assistant space team? I
mean Draymond and Jimmy play defense.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Okay, So you want to have the you want to
have Steph Lebron and who's who's beside them?

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
You need some shooting, right, you want have buddy. They
don't put a jacuzie on the bench cap. I'm talking
about the wh put the bikes in.

Speaker 6 (01:33:01):
They just put just pop in. As soon as they out,
you're just popping.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
They're gonna be the first team with heated bench seats.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
And we know that we know that golden sked.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Handicaps.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
Lebron already got that that seat that's like seven feet tall.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
He'd be killing me with that ship. People can't see.
So we got three cushions starts about ice hot for
show that that defensive that line the magic might bring
back Dwight Howard. They like had to work out with him.
They're working him out instead of a surprised how shape
he was though.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Was drafted the year before.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
You guys, right, Yeah, he's he's forty. He's a freaking
nature to share. Yeah, he's not normal, he's a freaking nature.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
He turns uh, he turns forty in a month. He
came out of high school in two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Four.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
Yeah, but he I think he was older. He's he
was older for me. There's a lot of people to
come out, like like Charlie. Charlie is older than me.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
But he's Yeah, I think the white came up.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
He was play when you just got inducted to the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Yeah, you got Lebron got inducted All Vame. Well that
that was team that was got inducted this year. Personally, Yeah, yeah,
I didn't know that. I thought he got inducted through
him and Mellow. I think you still could. I don't
think rules against that.

Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
I don't know he hasn't retired.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
He hasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:34:33):
I didn't think he can also come out of retire.
You can come retire to I never officially retired. Did
you ever officially retire?

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
I never came out and said it, just I just retired.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
How did you know he was done? I didn't, honestly.
I was just like I just the ship I had
going on in my personal life and then trying to
play and deal with injuries like I just I just walked.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
I just like I needed once I went to Houston, bro,
I went to Houston. That was the last team I
tried out for. I went to Houston and it was
like I felt like I was a rookie again. And
I said, that's it for me. I walked away from it.

Speaker 7 (01:35:14):
And they went to the bubble and they told me
I couldn't my kids couldn't come, family couldn't come.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
And I'm straight, So why did you feel like a rookie?
By the way, just just shit.

Speaker 7 (01:35:24):
I had to do almost I had to go ahead
and prove myself again, been at least fourteen years, Like
you know what you're gonna get for me? And maybe
back up, point guarded James, I'm like, I'm not. I'm
not trying to do nothing else. I ain't trying to
play thirty minutes a game. Give me about ten fifteen
a game or ten to twelve. Back up, give him
some minutes. He could come on back and play all
his minutes that's all I wanted to do. And Mike

(01:35:47):
D'Antoni was there, so.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
That was my guy.

Speaker 7 (01:35:49):
So I'm like, shit, I'm good. Fucking Marley fucked me
off bringing Ryan Henderson, Oh, Darren Morriy, whoever's fucking name
you call.

Speaker 6 (01:35:58):
Him, Marlin, call him Marley. I was trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
What the fuck you talking about. I just came in.

Speaker 7 (01:36:07):
I'm talking about I was there the whole fucking summer.
I was there, Bro, I was locked in. I went
to all these mini camps everything. Brought Ryan Anderson in
two days in before training camp, two days bro, and
they signed him. I was supposed to be the person
who get that that last spot. Like everybody told me,

(01:36:29):
I was good. James Russ, are you straight? We we
already talked to him. You're good, Ship. I've been I
about to bring everybody in town like I'm about to
get me a spot. Two days Ryanson come in there
and they signed him. Then they waved them first game
of the preseason, waved them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
M hmm. Man was so fucking man, I'm done with that.
Bubbles ship came in too. I was like, I'm done.
That's it, said, both of you retire, right, here. Yeah,
we done.

Speaker 7 (01:37:00):
Fisher retired officially retire today. Me and d Will we
got the same birthday everything. You know, we're tying together.
I got to say birthday.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
The same like, exact day, same year. Six All played
on the same team, same year, same day everything.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
And I've known them both since high school. Yeah, you
know j Jason's high school. Yeah, because we played they
played USA basketball. So what's the day played against? June
twenty sixth, nineteen eighty four. All born. I didn't. I'm
older though, Hey, I'm older. I was born in morning, yeah,
I think I was. I was ten thirty am.

Speaker 6 (01:37:36):
No, no, I was two thirty. I was two thirty PM.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Hey you was two thirty. J J said he was
at night and I was born at eleven A m hurts.
It is also Title's birthday. But I'm just playing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
That's what I saying. If you don't shut your ass up, hey.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
I'll do what Man Kurt like that, Man Kurt, you
know you my dog. Some little niggas is born scaled
l skin of the poor is the same every race.
They say the hong and be like I would pour
that day too. I was not born.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
I was born in August but anyways, that's crazy. Let's
run the let's go to New Orleans. Man, I was
gonna tweet it out to Day officially guarantee. I guarantee
you gonna go skip that one breaking about ship break.

(01:38:32):
They tweeted that ship out on Tidle League page.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
Williams officially retired to the Bar podcast, Did you he retired?
I ain't really retired. Niggas called me, I'm pulling up.
I'll be like, look I got a shape, but i'd
be a great team. You call me, I ain't pulling
up nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
I wonder if if you retired ship, if they asked me, they.

Speaker 5 (01:39:01):
Trying to be the oldest team. I will go to
sign me to Day. Just don't put me in the game.
Don't put me in the game at all.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
I'm not gonna hold you ever. Since he said this,
I haven't got it up my head. You really think
you wouldn't trade for Kyrie if you're Houston? No, No,
it wasn't that, I wouldn't it. It was Sanon. Yeah,
it wasn't. You're moving in though, because here's the thing. No,
I ain't even gonna say that because I don't even
know if I got to do some research for I say, ship.

(01:39:40):
You know, I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:39:44):
It's okay. I don't want to. I don't want to.
I don't want this live.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
So this is live.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
It wasn't anything bad. All I'm saying is I gotta
listen to that. I have to. I don't know if
I might. I think I'm with y'all. I don't know
if I go with Uh. I don't know if I
could trade sim Goon because sim Goon has been balling. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Yeah, he's been hoping the Kai wasn't the assistant coach,
yes for that team?

Speaker 6 (01:40:13):
Is because you think Kay is gonna be his full self?

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Right this year he comes back, I think will I
think he is, you know, thinks will take him like
I don't you know what I'm saying, because fred ran
Fleet is still there right, yes, so I know he's hurt.
Yea next year he's back. I'm moving on from Freda.
I'm moving on. You trust Freda Kai? Huh? You trust Freda?

(01:40:37):
Kyle Moore, Well, no, I'm not saying.

Speaker 5 (01:40:39):
I'm just I'm just thinking hypothetically like Kays because rays time,
I ain't I wouldn't play him this year if he's
saying Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Yeah, with Dallas. So I'm just saying, you got a
chance to win, you gotta play, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:55):
Houston, I just don't they have a legit chance of
winning that ship. I just don't think if you, I
think Sagoon is a big part of that, I do it.
And so that's what I'm saying. If you trade him
for the unknown with Kai right now, yeah, you can't.
At is a big one for a point guard. H
relies on his quickness. His shiftiness is everything. You can't

(01:41:18):
move sing the Rose was never the same after his.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
But I think is it car had a major injury before.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Yeah, he's really to know. He sucked his knee cap up.
Everybody's thirty two now thirty Yeah, he was like twenty
eight back then. No, the knee cap is not a potella,
is not a c l Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
That was in twenty twenty, right, twenty one, that's when
he Yeah, so that was what he's probably twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Pence said, trade Brown for Mobley and Hunter.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
That's not happening. That's a lot I'm not that's not happening.
Mobile is not getting Moby's your corner stone.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
The Lakers will do it. Lakers will not point guard.

Speaker 5 (01:42:00):
Kyrie isn't the point guard. He would be shooting up
what I don't you know what that man, he's thirty three,
about to be thirty four.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
Kyrie's my age is ninety two.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
So yeah, he's uh, he's what I'm saying, like, it's
not like he's I mean, it's not old, but it's not. Yeah,
he's not young, it's not That's what I'm saying. There's
a lot of yah up in the airs with with
with Kyrie.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Yeah, listen, you gotta look at it for a man.
But I don't think you look at it for Sengoon. Yeah,
but you definitely got to look at Kyrie for a man.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
If you tray Tari clint Read and picks for Kyrie,
I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
It clint Read and p I would do that, but
I don't. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
But it's Dallas doing it. That's that's that's not doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
Yes, they think that they would just take some role
players and one pick for a big night.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
So let me let me tell you something. Do you
remember justin talking about how bad they were, they know
how to fucking paint you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
You can also get Kyrie to sit on the bench
and tank, but and wait for Kyrie's.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
I don't know if Kyrie's waiting like tank tank for what. Alright,
we're going to move you in the offseason. Why would
they do that? Yeah, how does that help you? You're
still gonna have that money.

Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
I mean, I guess you do need to see teams
aren't gonna I don't think Kyrie's trade value is super
high right now until he comes back and.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
They see what he can do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
I don't know why you think Kyrie will just get
moved for a bunch of role players. No disrespect to them,
they're still really good players. But you need to get
either a young prospect or age a little bit of
an aging star back.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
For Kyrie, or picks that if it's picks, that picks.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Aren't going to be good anyway. So you have to
evaluate that Houston's picks are not the same as the change.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Use those that's the thing. You use those picks for
something else.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
But the thing is, well, I mean, that is fair,
but people understand that those picks are going to be
anywhere between twenty five to thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
So what's Houston's picks?

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Whatever Houston finishes, Houston's going to be might have picks
this year. I think we looked at it. They don't
have a lot of picks. They have like one or
two in the next three years, three four years. But
that's my point is like the picks aren't that valuable?
You want to do you want to go get picks
from the Washington Wizards. Oh hell yeah, I'm taking those.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
But they ain't using they ain't trading hars.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
No, they're not trading theirs. That's the point. You can
find a gem at twenty five thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
So you don't think what's wrong with reed, You're just
saying it has to be a man. To make it worse.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
I think you need a young prospect.

Speaker 6 (01:44:37):
That's funny.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
We trade one hundred and fifty thousand mile Camray for
a fifteen thousand miles toil Prius.

Speaker 6 (01:44:46):
I don't I don't know what that even, what does
that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
I don't know that's I don't know what either one
of those of them.

Speaker 6 (01:44:57):
But I definitely taken the Prius, but still I don't
get what that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
That's a tough one, mister Crabs.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
The reason why Kyrie got traded for is because Brooklyn
just wanted to get up get rid of him because
of the whole COVID stuff. You need a young If
you guys don't think you need a young prospect or good,
good value draft picks Kyrie, I think you guys are insane.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
Kyrie, everyone was playing at a top five, top top
ten levels.

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
Before you need to But that's what he said. His
value is not at that level.

Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
He toys a cl so you got to see what
he looks like. I agree with that thing, like, I
don't think they trade a man or Tego.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
That's all I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
I just don't think that.

Speaker 5 (01:45:30):
I don't think they do right now for Kyrie at
thirty three, almost thirty four, coming off of a c
L I just not playing a game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
You got to see what it looks like. You're gonna
give up a lot. Yeah, but why would Dallas do that?
Dallas is shooting themselves in the foot if they're gonna
get less value without seeing him play. Yeah, if we
if I see Kyrie every single day and he looks
like he's ready, he looks like most, why am I
gonna trade him for pennies on the dollar? I'm gonna
make you play. And yet that's just a business decision.
I agree, it's makes a full forty months for a

(01:46:01):
CL to be one hundred percent. I don't think that's
true anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Bro, Noah, things are different now. Guys come back early
years ago. Guys would come back earlier off Achilles. Guys
have come back off a CL. He's on that Mamba
mentality ship. So he's probably getting massages morning, noon, night,
sleeping in hyperbaric chambers. They're definitely doing the work. Yeah,
I mean, why, man, look good. I ain't gonna hold

(01:46:23):
you like. He's like you're ready to go? And Jason
Tatum like look like they could play by January like
those in March. I think is when they're saying March.
Jt like he further he in front of Kyrie's on
some ship Achilles in eight months. They don't make no
damn sense. A man, dunk I'm talking about like vertical

(01:46:44):
you ten.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
He's on Charlie's time.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Yeah, yeah, all signs happy. It's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
We're gonna talk about the New Orleans Pelicans a little bit.
They don't get a lot of love here, but Derek
Queen is hooping set up the good pick. I think,
really good pick. It's nice in Maryland. You give, you'll
get you a little little bit of work, give him
a little thirty ball.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
I know y'all seen the clip that the Marcus Cousins
and them had on Gills Arena. Do you think it's
harder to score average thirty on a bad team than
it is a good team? For sure? Just hold up.

Speaker 5 (01:47:22):
I think it's hard to average thirty, period. Yeah, number one, Age,
there's not a lot of people averaging thirty. Agreed, there's
like what two let's put that out.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
There's like seven or eight.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
It's like eight or nine this year two or three.

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
It would be Luca, Joannis and Shay.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Age usually average, honest, average thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
I think before the era we played in, it was tough,
probably tougher to average thirty on a bad team. BRO
was tough to get a hundred points. Yeah you're right, yeah,
like they getting a hundred points sometimes and halftime.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
But in today today's ear with as many shots and
how open it is, I think it's today.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
I don't speak your guys. Time is different.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
Yeah, you scoring there's games at seventy six to eighty one, right,
whole different conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
But today you're gonna get shots.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
It won't that ass damn seventy six. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:48:24):
I hope we had over seven. Seventy six was a bad,
bad night, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
That's a bad night. I mean, but you you wasn't
hitting hundreds. I need you to look that up. You
you wasn't hitting You wasn't hitting hundreds like like like
they're doing now as you got tied freeps and ship.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Game one of the NBA Finals eighty five to seventy six,
Spurs Cavs seventy five to seventy two, Game three.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
Damn yeah, bro, defense, Bro, they don't play defense now,
d will you know that is true?

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
That that's two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Fuck, they don't play defense now about right, because we
didn't want to allow ninety. There you go. But the
crazy part is it was a part of you genuinely
can't touch anybody though now exactly that's the difference.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
I'm gonna go run through it, run through.

Speaker 7 (01:49:05):
Hey, do you remember when they tell us point guards,
don't you bring your lasses down here through this paint?

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Mother used to check us with.

Speaker 5 (01:49:13):
I think it checks out though all the guys averaging
thirty are on good teams. You're right, actually right, Like
there's nobody on bad teams average thirty. Because if you're
a bad you're literally the person they're keying on every night.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
That's the fact. Like if they stop you, that was me.
I left it open. But why did just go off though?

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
I might have just opened that the seal on this week?
I see why wil saying that his team scored.

Speaker 6 (01:49:38):
Second shot, because that's the one that all that's in
there is it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
We are not taking a joke.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
But theo went back, he went back forth. Yeah he
thought about it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
But but d Wol's right though, I mean, you're you
have a point because your team did score a lot
of points. I forgot that there's a lot of hundred
balls in here for d wos.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
Yeah, we coach wanted to so we wanted to push
it and get something earlier we could. But if we
didn't have a layup or an easy shot, we wanted
to pull it out and make him guard for at
least use the clock because they.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Gonna get you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
Guys were so efficient at scoring though because of your offense.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
Yeah, but we would get quick hitters, like you know
on that flex cut cut off we ran, We ran
floppy used a bun back on that ship. We ran
floppy to death. Used the bump back on that ship too,
that ship to be so fun. You boy, you come up,
come back back shoot the three. Who was the most
important player on your team? Unsung hero pretty much? Who

(01:50:31):
was the most important player? Like it's like we don't
have this guy. We probably not where we are.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
That people don't talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
That people don't talk about of course you and Boos
were I don't think. I mean, honestly, was pretty pretty important.
And Ronnie Brewer was important for us.

Speaker 5 (01:50:48):
It was important and then and then it was and
then it was like Paul, yes, Paul, because then Paul
came in.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
He was coming off the bench Ronnie Brewer.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
But Ronnie was because he he used to guard everybody,
guarded everybody two or three who are I guess you know,
because they came with guard him too.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
But Ronnie was tough defensively.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
What about Derek who Derek Fisher?

Speaker 6 (01:51:09):
I only played with Fish one year though, but he
was important for us that year for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
But that that that's that. That's my thing about the
the teams that at the top, like the teams can
win it, there's always that guy that like Alex Caruso
last year, was a big game seven against Denver. We
do I don't know if Okay's there without Alex Caruso
last year. Everyone can say, yeah, but you got Shade

(01:51:36):
Jade up all that, But like that's the connector right there.
He's a guy that you can put on your kids.
And then you still got lou dort Garden the other
best player, you know what I'm saying. So like those
are the guys that definitely some names on this squad. Bro,
I swear I was thinking the same thing. It's not though,

(01:51:56):
I'm just still you know, sometimes you hear some of
the ringing in my ear.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
Yeah, I forgot that you played with the brown on
utah To.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
Yeah that was on the team. Yeah, bro, seven years.

Speaker 6 (01:52:08):
Yeah, he was the third, he was third, he was
third string.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
I was yeah that he was passing ship.

Speaker 5 (01:52:16):
We didn't need him to though. Yeah, we didn't need
him to need a run off. You know, he ain't
playing a lot so but it was good, man, It
was good. I mean, have my brother there like that,
that was fun. It was fun to have him that
one year. Yeah, they got him out of there after
that though, got him geting trouble. This was exactly like

(01:52:40):
we was in college.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Back in Illinois. We could do it better now and
then we have money doing it with money, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
Let's run the Kendrick Perkins clip ship. This is your boy,
right South Carolina.

Speaker 8 (01:52:59):
This is less about Willie Green being fired and more
about how Zion Williamson is a culture killer or organization killer.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
I ain't much culture. No, they had some Drew Holliday
and many Williams.

Speaker 8 (01:53:18):
Yes they was, they had they had some culture there
like but Zion, Zion has completely fucked this organization since
they drafted. I'm talks about them like no real talk
because you can't depend on them.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
You don't know what's going on. It's so many things
you have to do.

Speaker 8 (01:53:38):
You got he had to clean up certain areas and
shout out to Bill Duffy because Bill Duffie.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
He's taken over. He's trying to help Zion with a
whole lot of things. Hold him accountable.

Speaker 8 (01:53:48):
One of one of the best to ever do it
in the game. I love Bill Duffy. But think about
it though, Right so, now you're the Pelicans, Okay. The
first thing that you need to actious, elf, is what
are we gonna do with him on this non guarantee.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Think about this. Think about this. The most hyped athlete
sin is Lebron James and he is on a non
guarantee max contract.

Speaker 8 (01:54:13):
We have never heard of anything like that in life,
a non guarantee max contract. Okay, so he's not available.
What are you gonna do with him? Like, they could
wave him, they could trade him. What is his trade market?
I think they should move on from Zion. Every year
we get excited. Man, he's in shape. No, I'm just

(01:54:33):
saying people, he's in shape. He came into Shape training
camp in shape. All of a sudden he heard his
hamstring again. By the way, Like, I don't think I've
ever seen anybody in sports hurt their hamstring more than
Zion On Williamson.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
But okay, okay, but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Arguing Home a culture killer. Y'all have any thoughts on
that argument? A great point.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
They never really had a culture to begin with, that's
very true. Yeah, I don't know when the Pelicans were culture.
When CP was there, Yeah, that was when they really
had They just have a lot of talent.

Speaker 5 (01:55:12):
They had a good culture the West, and they had
good leadership.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
They have they that team up. You guys want to
should have Iron Scott. Y'all. Y'all want to work up,
y'all want to have some battles. We have some battles
back then. Look, I don't think he's a bad kid. Nah,
they like he The only thing I agree with, Perk,
the only fucking thing. Everything else was just fucking gibberious
to me. Too slow to be. They do need to

(01:55:43):
move on. He needs he needs to change of scenery. Yeah,
he needs to go somewhere else. You boys, all of
them need a new start. Johnny's a new start, Zion
needs a new start. Very talented kids, very talented can
help anybody, I feel like, but they both need to
get out of their their spots right now. When you

(01:56:05):
throwing out culture killer is that's why I said, that's
a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
That's why I was like, I can't bad dude, That's
what I'm saying. I ain't never heard anything bad about
the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
Come on, bro, And although like nobody hears listening, a
lot of America was listen to what he's saying.

Speaker 5 (01:56:19):
Well, they'll just see the clip, They'll just see the
headline said, and you're gonna say it on ESPN.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
People are going to believe that, which is terrible because
I've never heard Zign do anything negative.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
It's just the way you say the way You've never
heard nobody say he was a bad teammate.

Speaker 5 (01:56:31):
Yeah, I can see not showing up in shape, not
being in shape. All those things are true, being heard
being you know, uh, injury prone. All these things are true.
But culture killer is like a whole nother.

Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
So Ad is a culture killer. I ask you guys
this question.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
The flip side of it is a statement you being
in shape and coming ready to play at the beginning
season is not building culture one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Percent part of it.

Speaker 7 (01:56:56):
But he did what he was supposed to do this summer.
He came in looked great, look leader did he did
when he was in college. So like, he did what
he supposed to do. Unfortunately he got injured again. Like
it's just it sucks for him, and I just think
he just needs to go somewhere else, gets out of
that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:57:10):
Maybe things will get better.

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
He's in shape this year though, so I can't really
criticize him.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
You know what I'm saying. You can't talk about that
he did it. He looked good right, like Ray said,
he came in got hurt very unfortunate, very unfortunate. And
at the end of the day, I just don't when
you say things like that and you have a platform
like Perk, does that narrative gets heard and then it

(01:57:36):
starts to like like no, bro, like my man just
can't stay healthy. Culture Keller is a that's a huge
that's a big deal, you know what I'm saying. So
for him to put that out there, I think that
was kind of weird. But if you could say he's
a very injury prone player, you can't really argue with
him because he is. They would get hurt all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
We got changed topics immediately, Yo, what have you guys?
You guys just pissed you off? Reportedly, So, Jonathan Coming
is now being benched and there he feels he's being
the scapegoat again.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
For you too.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
It's not Warriors, I know you two are getting what.
So the Warriors lost to five of their next seven.
Coming's turnover spike and performance dipped, searching for rotation as
his curd de mode and coming a back to a
bench roll reopening old wounds. He feels like the scapegoat again.
One team sources getting them the funk out of there, please,
let's just trade.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
Him, please, so so so so we so we asked, asked, right,
But how's the kamingo help? He was hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
His whole point is that he's made the scapego.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
He was hurt. I get that. When he was in
they actually was pretty fucking good. I agree with that.
Who put this report, make sure that not sent it's
NBA Central.

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
I don't get senteled. Wow, I do not get senteled.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Is it the AI? No?

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
No, no, no, this is why Anthony Slater. He's a pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Repetible that's reputable, and I just I just don't understand
what they're doing with this young boy. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
I'm I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
Go ahead, trade him, bro, he's a low IQ player.
I definitely agree that his basketball he can grow, But
how are we going to blame him?

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
No, I don't know if it's low i Q. Like
there's a system at Golden State that you have to
play right. No, no, no, I'm saying that's why people
saying like that narrative is out there, because you have
to fit. Okay, when I catch the ball, I gotta
look to see where Steph is first before I do
something Drake minds the lead at it. Jimmy has been
good at it. But you can't tell Jimmy. Watch where

(01:59:43):
Steph is every day. I mean, to me, look worse
than he do.

Speaker 3 (01:59:47):
Talk about pots. I'm just saying he already killed him.

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
Hey, look, I'm gonna be honest with you. It's coming
off racist. No, this whole situation. You can't tell me
poses look good, pods look good.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
And place the system though, that's a difference.

Speaker 7 (02:00:04):
Kminga was playing in the system. Even Draymond said it.
But Draymond said he's the most bout and kid, I
agree with you.

Speaker 3 (02:00:10):
You're talking aboutrom Steve Curse respective Yes, but.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
How do you bench a guy that Draymond said that,
this Draymond is. Raymond is the system. He runs that
system better than the ship. Anybody you take Draymond out
of the system, who passes step to who does these things?
Huh her loves parts? Of course he does. I don't
know why. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
I don't know why as a as a fan, I
don't know why. Last thing before we get out of here,
I just looked on Twitter. Quick Haul Pierce says Kobe
Brown was never the face of the NBA. We're little
drunk again. Man, you responding to that?

Speaker 1 (02:00:45):
What Yeah? Kobe Brown was never the face of the
what Yeah, we go, we go, So you want to
keep going. We don't need to talk about it. We
don't even need to talk about it. Your corny and ship,
Uh Paul, put it down, put the yack down, the

(02:01:09):
yawn for a second, my boy. Hey, listen, we appreciated
love d well. We appreciate you pulling up to the
Baja again. And listen, we're getting bigger and better. We
appreciate the love chat. Y'all are funny as hell. So
y'all keep tuning in with us. We'll be at the
same time. Tomorrow. It's gonna be lit again. We take
a shot. Tomorrow's last day before oh race, not taking

(02:01:32):
shots right on. When I hear tomorrow, Thursday, today, thursdays,
you lit might be. What's in that cup.

Speaker 7 (02:01:45):
Might be a little like I said tomorrow. Some of
y'all want to tell me I went back honggoing, hongoing.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
Hey, everybody, tell everybody good luck. I got to I
don't cut it. Everybody everybody said, you can't ready, you
can't wait home, al so you gonna come back you're
gonna come back with attitude, crazy advertise. I'm not gone

(02:02:21):
well dressed like the dad, don't. We're gonna get out
of here now. Hey, we appreciate the love. We will
see y'all next week. We're only gonna be here Monday
through Wednesday next week so everybody can enjoy their Thanksgiving
and some good damn food. Were out of here, peace,

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