The Offseason Madness has Begun Already, and OKC Gentlemen's Sweep

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I can barely hear you.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
There we go, yeah, there we go outside. Yeah we
have we have duper kates out here to on the stream.
You know, Peter, it's out there looking like a rookie.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Guys, Peter bro that's crazy. But look again, it's a
blessed day. It is NBA Finals day. Everybody, we should
get excited again. Another episode of to the Baja, we
were joined by my brother Theo Pinson from the Rico Rico,
Puerto Ricano. He got his lighting right, he got a painter.

(00:32):
He looked living right, he must have got a w
no lost the other night.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh ship, yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Ship, and what guys in the Rico, I see it.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
And look in the studio. We got my boy Charlie V.
He got the he got Toronto. He wrapped today.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
He's a sixer.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
He's a sixer. I don't know if anybody says that.
That's what Drake says.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
I don't know what six.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Drink actually say. That's where I got it from. He said,
I'm a sixer.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Interesting, Yeah, it was a very interesting. I'm not a sixer.
I'm just from Toronto. That's it. I thought you were
not from Toronto. I'm from Toronto.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
You love Toronto, Bro, Stop doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I said, I'm not a sixer, but I'm from Toronto,
because I don't know what the hell of sixer is
a sixer? Hey, don't ever say I'm from Halifax. Bro,
that's that's okay to be a sixer. I'm not from
Halifax though. We ain't doing that doing that. We're not doing.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
That, that's the rumor. And then of course we got
home the real sixer. Now I got him. We got
him in this student day.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
But fellas fellas, Fellas, Fellas fellas.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's NBA Finals day. Man, it's been a long time
without hoops, like it's been with four like four days
without hoops.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
It's been weird. It's been weird.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I've been wanting everybody's been tuning in not having basketball
in a like seven o'clock that she got me watching hockey, bro,
Like your word.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I would just watch the oilers.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Watching the oldest ship Last gonna hold you that game
with some bump.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
It was a loop.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
It was we called hockey bump.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Called call everything I would do, call everything bump.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
On skates it was. It was a good bump on
the ice man.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
On the ice man, look look, they call it shitty
some good shiitty. I don't ever say that.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I'm telling you, as a Canadian, tell you that's what
it's called.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
That's that's.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
God. What America ever say that?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
He's like backyard hockey like you say you but y'all,
what did you'll just be saying.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Why? Why?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Disrespectful? Right, let's keep it moving before we get into
geta and we gotta get Peter by the computer. Bro
Peters out.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Here, just Peter Man. You show some love to my
boy bro. He just got the new whip. We said
we would feature it.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, yeah, cut it off, trying to call it all
of us broke.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
That's cool, damn you so my spind move my.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
MJ Mike Jack.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Clean, I got the sway inside.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
That ship. You see the lamb, the lamb.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Carpet, lamb, that's lam carpets.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Hey, you know what that means. There's a couple of
whips you're not using. I be at the crib, but
I get back.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I got you a price.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Look at the business man as the car clean man
and access only dog. But no, Also, Charie, I do
not believe that you didn't know what car you're getting
you might know the interior. That's cool. Yeah, I didn't
know the enter, but kind of I kind of knew,
and that's cool and that's kind of news, you know

(04:01):
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
And that's cool. Not so what's the deal?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Just basically, whoever lost had to pay for that whip? Yeah, okay,
so y'all knew, but y'all was just like what we
knew it was a whip, But I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
You didn't know that all thattually you had? Yeah, yeah,
she picked it up.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
She was losing.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Bet is bad. You want you probably would have on
the g wagon. I would have to upwear her g
wagon and.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
She currently has now the g wagon.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, I probably would have got it in.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
New York Knicks.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I would have got what you're making that second.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
He's not jarious what we do it?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
But you didn't even say it. I tried.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I tried, my fun fault. That's just you do it
to yourself right now, good Hanks said, He a nicer boy.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Say that they gonna get on my ass. But yeah,
fellas fellas fellas THEO. You've been off the show. We
want to get your perspective on the series. Man, what
do you think about this series, what can we what
do you got?

Speaker 5 (05:16):
What do you got for us?

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Bro Man? Uh?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
For me?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Like I told, like I said before, I'm excited about
the series. I'm excited to see what type of uh
if Indiana serious? I think that's one of the things
we got to figure out, is Indiana. That series everyone
but you got hey, but hear me out. So first round, uh,

(05:45):
you playing a Milwaukee team, Dame goes down you you
pretty much had their number. And then the next next
series you had Cleveland hurt Cleveland, and then you play
against the next team that uh they beat. I give
them credit, they beat the Knicks. They look better than
the Knicks in that series. But people you can go

(06:06):
and say they had a pretty favorable run to the finals.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Now now they can stamp it.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
If they go in there and compete and they go
win it, they can stamp be like nah, we the
real fucking deal. And they can step in and be like, oh,
we're gonna be here for a while too. Like they
got a young crew, They got guys who love to
be with each other. That I can see a team
like this, like OKC or the Knicks with Jalen Breston

(06:36):
taking a pay cut just so the team can stay together.
You know what I'm saying, because I think guys nowadays
understand they would rather be someone where they're happy, make
money and win at the same time, more than it
was back then. I don't think it unless you going
to get a big payday, which some guys. You gotta

(06:58):
go do what you gotta do. But I'm excited it
for the series. I personally think, okay, see you about
to put them in a backwood, but I would love
to see if Indiana is for real or was it
a favorable run.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
I also say to like, no.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
They're not pretenders. They're not pretenders, because I said before
the playoffs started, you need to watch out for Indiana
because they played a different They play at a different pace,
they play at a different level than everyone else. Now
we're about to see can they play at the highest
level with Okay ste who has done it all year long.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
So to put in perspective though, right, I mean, did
anybody think Miami had a real chance of beating Nuggets?

Speaker 6 (07:40):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
I didn't put it past them.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
I didn't think they had a chance.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
We did, wait, a minute, Wait a minute, are you
comparing this Indiana run?

Speaker 5 (07:51):
No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying Miami did.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
No.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm just comparing matchups. Like just because you get to
the finals doesn't mean that you act that.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Teams think that.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
I don't think they're think you have a chance of winning.
Like I don't think anybody thought the Mavericks were actually
gonna beat Boston last year. You didn't think it was, Like,
I ain't a lie, Like, did y'all actually think it
was gonna be a good did y'all? Or did y'all
really think like you know, things will have to go?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Did you?

Speaker 5 (08:22):
That's what I'm saying. We beat, we beat, it's the same.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I understand what you guys, Clippers, I completely understand what
you're saying.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
And Charlie, I didn't speak to you then because we didn't.
I didn't know you like that. It's all good, good
cav but all said Boston should win this series. That's
my own point. I didn't think it was the same thing. Okay,
I thought I can go six seven though.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, I get what you're saying, Like we all picked Boston,
did we think it'll be Boston at five? No, no,
I think this will go on five. I don't think
that this is perfect. This is potentially four or five games.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Damn if that happens, pay me, Ray, pay me.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I think it's going to six man. You didn't go
six minimum six?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Hey, look this is my thing.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Indian I said, you really think Miami had no chance
against Denver?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I do, I could, like, I just it was Jimmy
Butler against the World bro against Nicole Jokis, Jamal when
he was actually healthy, Michael Porter.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
They beat everybody though.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
They beat the ship out of I mean they.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Beating the ship out of Boston. They beat the ship
out of Milwaukee. With a good Milwaukee team health want
to championship.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I think Dame was I think some not Dame. I
think was injured that year, but he didn't get injured.
He played, he didn't get injured.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
To last Chris was injured. One of them was injured.
One of them was injured. I remember that even.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, I don't. I don't compare this team to that
Miami team.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
So I'm not I'm not comparing them.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm just saying I thought the winner of the West,
and you guys know that if it wasn't Boston. I
said that if the winner of the West would win
this period, I.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Agree with you. That's why I'm saying this. For the
East to get more respect, they need to put up
a great.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Fight in this finals.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
That's why I feel like this is this, this is
this is this is huge for the East in general
in my opinion, because ultimately, unless it's Boston and Boston is,
we don't even know what Boston is gonna look like
next year. It's really it really just comes down to
the West. Whoever wins the West. You're like, Okay, we're
not really worried about the East. We just got to

(10:42):
get through this gauntlet in the West and see what happens.
I think this is bid for the Eastern Conference to
show we ain't no slouches and we ain't nothing to
play with.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, that's fair. Does anybody have anything else I want
to speak on that? I just want to listen another point.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's why Nah, I think, I mean, I think it's
gonna be good.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Bump.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
I think I think they got the two best. I
think I think a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
In the night they both they both have four to
their serious prediction. What's your prediction I have for one.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, I got four two.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I got four two, maybe I got four to one.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
I'm gonna just say this, if Lou Dork can do it,
he did to what the fuck is he gonna do
to Tyre's Halliburn?

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Different players, he could be more effective even if he's
not having a good shoot night.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
He controls the flow of think. You gotta consider too,
we don't know, God forbid. How about some Shay is injured?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
No for sure, I mean, I mean it changes the
whole series now.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
But but.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
We're making the assumption that they're healthy, right. We can't
make assumptions with.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah for sure. So I just I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
I just it's not even just Lou though. Man, it's
like across the board they loaded they are God.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
So let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
I want to stick on and game four, game fu No,
how many games the Knick series go six?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Game five back in New York.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
That game put a lot of worry for me for
Indiana because New York actually guarded them that night. And
that's what OKAC is going to do night in the
night out. And they got two days rest.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, they get decent amount of rest. On each day
like they get the first games.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
They get two day rest.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
No, no, no, there's one that's back.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
That's there's one.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I want to kick this back to you, right, you
said obviously Lou and Tyree. I want to talk about
that matchup, right, if he guards them? What do you
guys think as players, both you and Charlie, because you
know Tyree's is just a different type of player, has
change of pace, his understanding of the game where I
feel like and to just go go. Does that make
a difference when you're guarding a player for something like
Lou versus.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Y'all might have talked about this already. I wouldn't put
on Halibert, That's what I said.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I'm Smith probably yeah, Mr However Smith, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I would put uh ship because.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
We're about we're talking about the matchup. We're talking about
guard on Halibert.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
When it gets when it gets and gritty, it gets
to gritty. I went, yeah, I put Jalen on Tyres,
and I would put Lou on Pascal.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
That's what I said. These guys thought I was crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's fair.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Who said you were like, what the hell would you
put him on Pascal?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Whom I would put I didn't say you were crazy
that I would put would I said, if you he
says above the elbow, that's matchup, say he's gonna cook him.
If I remember correctly, I don't know about.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Like a lot a lot. I do kind of remember
you saying that.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I say that, remember because I said, I'm like, I'm
putting on Pascal. And then they I feel like him
and Ray I could be wrong. They're like, why would maybe?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
But like I didn't say that because when you because
you use you made a point. I was going to say,
but he made a point. You was like, he works
my elbow, ad Jason. I was like, well, if he
works al Jason, lou Dort is the best person for that.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
That's what I think, Sophia, Why do you think lou
Dort's a better match up on Pascal?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Strong can move them puppies.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Like the reason Pascal is so good he has that
he got a wiggle way more wiggle than a lot
of fours.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
You ain't wiggling on lou dortat.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Close to the ground.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Elevate over yeah, here for sure, elevate. And I think
it's one of those things you gotta figure you gotta
figure out what matchup works out. But I think that
the real key for Indiana, in my opinion, is Miles Turner.
If Miles Turner is able to play well, this is
a more favorable matchup for Miles Turner than it was

(14:56):
in the nixt series because called Anthony Towns was given
Miles the bobble business.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
So so let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Obviously, we've seen Pascal cook Dre in the finals, right,
and he was cooking Dre and Lou kind of.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Stocky, smart move the feet.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Dre got seven to two wingspan, he's tall than a
little bit tall than Why is he not just cooking them? Like,
That's what I'm saying, Like, I think los a better option.
But Pascal Shone can cook that type of style defender
and one of the best in the world at the time.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I mean they could definitely he definitely can't cook him.
I ain't saying he can't. I'm just saying for me,
I think that'll be a better matchup. I think check
they could throw so many people at him. I think
that's what gives Okay, see the advantage to me. I
think that throw Caruso, they throw lou the throw chat

(15:51):
fuck it. They might sometimes throw Hardenstein at him just
to throw another body at him. Uh, Like, like I said,
you okay, see has so many defenders and guard at
such a high level. I think that's the problem with Indiana.
You really got nim Hart and uh what's your boy name?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Smith? Smith?

Speaker 4 (16:13):
And you know ahead Sorry, those two guys are kind
of like your defenders. I mean they got other guys
that play hard. They ain't no defenders though, Like what's
the old boy that got the mustache to pissed me off?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Shepherds?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
I mean the mustache that ship not feeling. Pull a
picture up, pull a picture. He looked nuts too young
for that.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's also put it on wax like that his teammate
in the summer. So he definitely knows what he wants
to get to. And that part gave Jalen. I'm not
saying the same player, but same craftiness, change the pace,
get fouls, give him.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you some game
here home. And for the people that's watching mm hm there.
I've played against a lot of Vets, a lot of
older guys, and I know every single thing they about
to do. Sometimes that shit don't matter. You know, it
does not matter. You still go get cooked, especially like

(17:16):
there's a there's a different level of when you are
a mid range assassin. There's really not much you can
do with somebody, you know what I'm saying, Because like
the De Marta Roses, the Shay's, the Mellows, they will
always get to a spot that there's always another spot

(17:41):
they can get to. You can cut that spot off,
but you can't cut the other spot off too, you
know what I'm saying. I think Shay has so much
in his bag that you just gotta hope he missed
at this at this point.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
So we're at the same point of the tier in
twenty twenty three. Who has a deeper bag?

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Luc or Shay renswer the question.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Luca still Yeah, Luca. They don't got the post game yet,
but Luca does.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Does he have more on the on the on the
dancing and whatnot?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Luca, Hey, listen, Lucas can listen. There's only one thing
people talk about with Luca's defense offensively, anything you want, anyway,
you can get it. The motherfucker is a He's one
of the if not the best, one of the best
offensive players in the league, and you Luca disagree with

(18:33):
Lucas Lucas, Luca is a bad, bad man. I'm telling y'all.
And I've said this before. I've said I've said this already.
If the Lakers get up big and they put a
good group around them, they can get to the finals.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Oh No, with this experience, is going to be more
dangerous to make the right moves to retool. I think
it's gonna be nasty.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Get together. I just don't know what you do with
a Luca Lebron. Bro. I'm gonna be honest, I don't
know what you do with.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
You get the Steph and Jimmy together for another year
and put some pieces like's.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
The only thing what what beat what beat? What beat them?
Is they were so small, they were tiny, and they
had the worst matchup possible in round one. Yeah, and
they were tiny. I mean you gotta look the last
game they beat. They still could have won that game.
Fucking Rudy Gobert had a career night legacy.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
I know, I know Lebron is always defied as much
as he could for the time, but he's another year older.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
To Yeah, Bro, I can't see Lebron at one point.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
At one point, you know you can't fight for all
the time forever.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Bro, they didn't go that far. They played five games
in the playoffs and this man is rusty.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Should we talk about that?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
But that might be bad?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Did Draymond comment? Y'all want to jump into that?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
What did he say?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Did you you didn't see that? Draymond said he rather
losing the first round than losing the finals.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
How y'all feel about that?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
As players and competitors, he says, because you get your summer.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
They said, money wise, summer.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
And money and your body gets to rest for the
next season because you don't win that.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
That's just coming from a motherfucker who won.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
But he been but he's lost twice too. He's lost twice.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
In the course, but I'm sure he would still want
those same opportunities. Get the fuck out of here for
someone that hasn't talking, for someone that hasn't left the
first round.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, I will win the final. Dosn't lose, Bro.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
I'm with it all right.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I got some stats from you for y'all. I guess headline.
So this is the first championship for both franchises. We
got some stakes, so first could be first for both.
Do you know that this is the first time since
the seventies that we had six different champions in six years?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Is this the first time since the seventies?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, I could think about it like the Lakers want
a bunch of years back in two thousand. Yeah, I
mean the Spurs one a couple of times, like going
State one, Miami on.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
So like this is the first time the seventies since we.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Super good for the league. Man, you see how the
league is constantly getting better. It's even playing field.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, even even playing field. Yep, that's right.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, Like put it in perspective, like we you know,
Adam Silver made all these things for parody in the
league and we had this will be at the seventh
different champion in seventh straight years. O key if okay,
see win It looks scary to do. Like we said
that about Boston last year and Boston got hurt though
they didn't get hurt, but that but that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, a lot.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
If they didn't get hurt, they were still probably losing
that game. They probably still go down three to one. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know, but no, but.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
But I think everybody here also said that we fully
thought Boston was capable of running off three in a
row against the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
We did.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, So I think that's part of it as well. Parody,
you know, a couple of different things. Is the first time, well,
first force to ever make it for the final, to
ever make it the finals for real? Yeah wow, it's
the only PACs so a C that has made it before,

(22:13):
but not a force, not a force, no huh.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
You got to see that.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Because usually if you're a four C, you played the
one you play the worst seed. Yeah, typically ends bad.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah yeah, because you the A C already, because you're
the A C alrd knocked off the first seat. I
got a lot of these notes from the NBA, Colm,
so shout out to my guy Carol that sent me
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Which is cool to the pacers.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Shout out to the pacers.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
And then this is a ten year anniversary mark. There's
never been an MVP and a NBA champion for the
last ten years since step did in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Damn hung.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
You came with them facts so that that can be done.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
On twenty fourteen, which is a fucking travesty. What do
you mean it's MVP when you're like, honestly, when you're
that's what I'm saying. Like, that's why I say, because
Bron hadn't won one since twenty fourteen, which, no stuff,
was a lot of time to do it. I'm agreeing
with you. I'm saying, he's just saying Brian, I'm just
talking Brian. I'm giving his praises. I didn't even know
he should have more m v ps.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Okay, we're talking about Cam Cam. He's talking he got
a gift, Steph.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
I know, I mean, I know I have to bring
up Bron because to the last I'm just giving him
not I get it.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Niggas.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Niggas don't like to go.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
No, I'm not next that y'all ready for this twenty
five year anniversary. The first player to lead the league
in scoring and make the finals in shock.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Hey can I can we stop for a second. I
really need to ask questions. This is good for the
people too. Why don't you like Bron? That's a good question.
You just said that kind of smoothly. I don't like Bron.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I know why he don't because of the decision. I'm
more that you don't like Kad either. Right, I'm I'm
cool Katie, that's crazy cool because.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
So much.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Okay, let me if y'all really want to know the narrative,
everything has to be controlled. Oh I saw three buckets
because he hit me in the eye, like some kind
of control your narratives. And that's okay because he's a
ghost and I don't like that is also a liar.
If you don't, that's fine. But my whole point is
that I just don't like how he's always trying to
control his narrative. If that's the real reason I don't like, really,
there's another reason I respect him to how I respect him.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
What he's done accomplished great, But who's your goat?

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Who's my go My goat is definitely Mike Mike, and
and my number two is Cobe.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I respect it. I mean they both.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
I'm shock.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
My list is similar to Shack Mike one, Cobe two,
Lebron three.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Don't you go with that?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Satisfy the you're satisfied with that response? You cannot like
you cannot and that's your paint for sure.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
But you can not like Lebron because you like he
controls narratives blah blah blah, but like, what is he done?
For sure?

Speaker 5 (25:07):
It has been great.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
But I got Kobe. You don't like him.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
You don't like him because it has nothing to do
with basketball, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
I think I didn't, That's what I'm saying. But but
have I ever discredited his basketball? No, I just I
don't like him personally, I.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Mean kind of.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
I'm gonna here's Kobe fan. How is he not in
front of Kobe?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, that's a good question. You're asking from my list
my goats, But he's he's but it's not, it's not,
but it's not even if you're not even close.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
But it's a fair question though, Right, who's more closer
to m J Kobe or Kobe Kobe?

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
And you got MG as your goat?

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Right one?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Not COVID number two. That's because he's the most I mean,
but then I'm voting with that.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
I can also play a devil's advocate to that.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
With that, why would I make an almost carbon copy
be number two when Lebron is his own individual players,
not a player like Lebron.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Guys, I think, like I mean, ultimately, I think Lebron
has had the best career ever. Yes, I'm not going
to dispute that but if you're talking about if you're
talking about big moments and adding that all part of
a legacy, that's where I have Kobe over him.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
What the fuck that makes sense? You just said he
has the best.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Career when you put the numbers together in the long.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
But Kobe has more minutes, more more moments.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
He has a great He has a greater resume, the
bigger moment.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Robert Horry got some of the biggest moments.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Kobe has resume. Kobe has a better.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
My fault, he doesn't. He doesn't has a better rings.
That's my fault. I am with Hong, though I believe
it or not the guys, So.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Here's my thing though, here's and the Gold debate doesn't
really matter at the end of the day because it.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Is a great and I'm gonna tell you all this like,
is it is?

Speaker 4 (27:01):
It is?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
It? Is?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
It really wrong to pick Kobe because you know the
legend of how Kobe showed up in big moments.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I mean, Kobe might not have been the best player
in his era. And again, Kobe might be my actual
favorite player, but he's not like he he might not
have been better than Tim Duncan. Like if we keep
it in the buck he might not have been better
than Tim Duncan you.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Crazy? Is that really? That?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Is that really that crazy? I don't know Tim Duncan.
At one point, what are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Two different positions?

Speaker 4 (27:35):
All right? So what are we talking?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Let's put this, let's put this on pause because we
got other stuff to go over. But I appreciate you
guys asking. It's a personal thing. I don't know, afraid
to meet it.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
It is what it is, all right.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So the last, the last couple of things is that
both teams have all all stars that are on this team.
None have been selecting the top ten. Shay was not
selecting the top ten. Neither was Tyree past top the
draft none neither. None of their all sorts have been
selected in the top ten, which is crazy. And then

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the last thing is this is a twenty five and
twenty fifth year anniversary of Indiana losing.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
To l A in the finals in the finals.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
A lot, a lot of a lot of interesting things here,
a lot of interesting things.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
I really want.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I know you I do too. I want, I want
because I want my I want my my narratives to
be so right, like I wouldn't be sorry about Tyree Telburton.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
But so what happens, what happens, Pascal just carries the series.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
It's possible, that's the thing that's possible. But my narrative
still lives. You know that, because I mean the way
he's he still has to do is going to win
the finals. That's two different narratives. I say, can be
cold and but I say he's gonna be one of them.
He's already one of them guys without winning the finals.
I mean, I'm not saying my narrative is my narrative

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is already right. I'm just saying it will further my narrative,
like how right she was Booty.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Then might keep the narrative going where they keep surprising people.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
And and we're gonna talk about it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Field.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
They had the perfect storm to like, let's also keep that.
Keep that in mind.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Hold on, it's not the perfect that's it.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
The Cleveland series.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Only only want to give them like Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
But and everybody was healthy.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
They did, there was they did. There was supposed to
no no.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Game two three best players did not say Garland, Garland,
Mobley and Hunter didn't play games right, right, He's right,
He's right, and not play game one, Garland played three,
Garland played three, four and five. For what I mean,
the dude was a shell of himself. Second of all,

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like I said, I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you this.
We there's plenty. There's plenty of situations in championship runs.
You just you have a very good matchup and you
you still have to go out there and win. You
still have to go out there and win, and they're upsets.
There are things that it goes in your favor, and

(30:13):
that that might be another reason why it is hard
for me to say, Okay, see wins in five because
the way shits happened for Indiana, be like, fuck, is
it their year? It could be, you know what I'm saying,
Like them motherfuckers just hoping so like that. Let's be honest.
That shot Tyree's hit, that hit that bounced up winning.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Come on, bro The funny thing is I knew he
was gonna hit it, though when he did, like he
gonna hit this bitch, He's hit he said no, I'm sorry,
So he said twelve or thirteen clutch shots this year,
brod That's not like no fluke shit. Injuries are part
of the game. But everybody here and it's all wax
said that Boston is running the table. None of y'all

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even had Indiana. Of course, so India had Indiana. Like
I said, if they do it again next year, I'm wrong.
I'm happy to come on here and apologize, but I
just I'm not just. I'm not gonna say this is
gonna be a regular thing for them. I'm beingest.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Paciers got overlooked. They look bro they got overlooked by.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Because you were said they're good.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
You said Boston was taking this ship hands down.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
We all said that ship. No one, no one, no one, y'all.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Said overlooked one hundred. Everyone picked Boston.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Cleveland. Cleveland was the next you did.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You did, You did have to so like listen, I
won't give you credit. You said they're dangerous team, you
gotta look over for them, but you did not have
them making the finals.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
You didn't overlook that, overlooked.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
This overlooked is different than overlooked. Yet they're in the finals.
You're in the final. Over over overlooked them as much
as we have, but you still overlooked them.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
You were closer to being right than we were, but
you still weren't close to.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Being right, Yeah, we overlooked them.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
It's cool, all right.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Anyways, anyways, I'm gonna ask THEO, what do you how
does Indiana win the series?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Or like, what do they need to do to win
Game one? Let's what do they need to be? What
do you need to see on the court?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Game one is the one that gotta steal if you
if you see it happening, you just play your game
the best you possibly can. And uh just I think
that's the because okay, C doesn't have any film. They
haven't played you at all. That's the beauty of the finals.

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You only play this team from the other conference twice, right,
so the times you play them can be so fucked
up and skewed it's insane. Now you're both going and healthy.
You just gotta play fast, play free. And I think
the others have to open it up for Tyrese. I
think Tyree's has to set the table because there's gonna

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be a lot of nerves. It's gonna be a lot
of a lot of just.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
People.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
It ain't been there, and it might not be Tyree's.
It might need to be passcal to settle them in
because his experience of being there has to come out.
He has to show. But like, hey, look, get on
my back for the first no diddy, get all my
back for the first quarter.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
And I'm I'm gonna settle this say in a little bit.
I mean, that's kind of a lot what he's been doing. Though,
And two things, quickly, we were wrong. We apologize. There's
three NBA champions in the series. Thomas Briant was a
champion as well. Brian Caruso, Yeah, we said to last
show Thomas, the Lakers, the Nuggets, Nuggets, Nuggets, the Nuggets

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that year.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
You ain't get no bumped though.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
And then the second thing is a little bit.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Like I know we talked about it quickly, not quickly,
but last year, do you have any new thoughts on
how they can win the series in Indiana or of
Game one?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Like Dial said, they gotta steal one. I think Terry's
is the type of player that kind of lets the
game kind of come to him. That's why I think
Pascal has to kind of carry the team and kind
of show them the ropes type of deal. But if
anybody can steal Game one, I think RC and the
crew can do it. Man, I think r C has

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been there before. And what I mean r C?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I mean Carlisle, Yes, sir, But I'm.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
With the man. Indiana's just gonna have to steal one
and have Oklahoma play their game, the Pacers game.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
What's the magic threes for you guys? What fifteen threes?
I'm serious, you, guys, I think the game I slow
down a little bit.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Well, what do you think I'm gonna tell you what
this is not gonna do.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
This game is not gonna slow down.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
It's not I think it's gonna be a track meet.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
You think so, it's gonna be a But then that
helps That helps Indiana.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
No, it helps both teams. Okay, see can run.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
It's about the quickest team though. They're the quickest team
we've ever seen. But I mean the thunder known for
turning over the ball and getting on in transition. If
you let them get in transition, naturally, it's gonna be
a dangerous transition naturally. I'm saying, Like I know, that's
what I'm saying. It doesn't benefit any team more than
the others.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
The question is, do you think Okay is gonna overlook
Indiana because no one has Indiana like, no like do
they know, Like, do you think okay, see goes in there.
I don't think we got this in the bag type ship.
I don't think so, because I truly believe it. I
truly believe in Okay, see now, I think they're real grounded,

(35:43):
humble group. They don't really got no dickheads. Think about it,
they don't who they know? Who don't I'm laughing, but like,
they really don't have no dickheads that you can look
like he could really fuck this sh up for them.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I don't see one person.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Over there be like, but both both of even someone
who's doing both teams. Both teams got great don't have
on Indiana.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
The chemistry is just on point. But on both teams, I.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Mean they all do.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
That is nuts.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Yes, he is.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Which which what are talking about? Ditead, Like, do we
know the difference?

Speaker 4 (36:27):
You can go.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
He can go wrong, Charlie. Charlie talking about the chemistry part, bro.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Because the chemistry is crazy. I mean you really don't
see that.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
A lot of locker rooms you crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
You always have a couple of.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Guys that kind of you can see that they have
good chemistry, but the whole team, these dudes do it
every fucking game where they're at the doing an interview together,
all of them, I mean, cracking jokes.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
They buy into the heaven or ship and it's funny,
but like it does help them.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
And they vibe, bro, they vibe. They vibe on and
off the course.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
So like nice Wayians who like a nice I mean
they're I mean, none of them are, like it's real.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
They don't have no.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
What cases?

Speaker 3 (37:23):
He from Dunkville, so he might be why do you
think cases? Why do you think cases? And why from Duncanville?
Why did you say that? Because he from Why did
you say that?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Did you he got breaks?

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yeah? What is the break?

Speaker 2 (37:38):
No, I'm asking because he knows that is really well
and he knows what cases from something? Asking No, I'm
fucking with you, I'm asking, I'm asking.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
You know, he's the guy.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
He's a good guy.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
That's a great cop out. It was a good one.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Why did the question? Why to ask him direct question?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Because you know something that.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
It's m Cam tells me, Yes, I'll be joking, bro.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Use that was a bit. Cam says he knows the city.
So I got checking with Cam.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Yo, what's up?

Speaker 4 (38:12):
My brother? Neither team has the y M except for
jam Johnson. He's the y N. He's get that much bump.
He's still.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Don't let them start scrapping, y'all. Y'all got anything left
on this series? Actually got a couple of questions in
the chat. Let's answer them. Shelle to lewis t he
been sending a couple a couple of notes in the chat.
His point is that okay see through three point shooting
has been inconsistent throughout the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
J and Chet were shaky in the Denver series. I
think Okay See just has multiple ways of winning or
making adjustments. I think that the most versatile team other
than Boston, they were the most probably and the Pacers
a pretty versatile to man, do you do you.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Think that the play versus I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Players play one way they got the person that they
got the personality, they could play different.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I mean, you guys are saying, could have you all
seen it? I've seen play a couple of different ways.
I think because they haven't needed to switch anything. They've
they've only lost like what four games the entire playoffs,
But we haven't seen it at this level of basketball,
and we'll see you might be right, But I'm just
saying like Indiana could adapt, they can adjust. I mean
they have a great I would say they have the

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right coach if they need to make adjustments.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
But we haven't seen it. But we've seen you see,
I'm agreed.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
I'm agreeing with you as far as the person nail themselves,
but I've seen the coach take worse person nail and
make adjustments against better teams. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (39:45):
What do you mean he took it a worst team, Mavericks.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
He's saying that team was as far as talent, As
far as talent, Dark Dark was the only real All Star.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (39:58):
We had?

Speaker 5 (39:59):
I'm the Mavericks for What are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
The Tyson Chandler?

Speaker 4 (40:03):
You had? Tyson Chandler?

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Mary, Look, look, and I'm gonna say that we've already
talked about this.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
We've already talked.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I'm not the only nigga who end up being better
after that year? Was Tyson Chandler?

Speaker 5 (40:17):
The only person that.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I'm lying, Peter, what player on that team got better
after that? Besides Tyson? What player got better?

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Chat?

Speaker 5 (40:24):
What y'all think? What y'all think got washed? Jac Two years.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Later, cam Cam who wins that series? Indiana the Mavericks?

Speaker 3 (40:35):
As long as Derek Whisky, I'm not going to get
Derek Whiskey. No, he's saying, he's saying, does okay? Does
Indiana beat Does Indiana beat them? Miami heat them in there?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Nigga?

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Now I'm talking about okay, see Miami Heat?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
No? No, no, no, no no?

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Does that Indiana?

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Does this?

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Indiana Indiana Pacers team beat that twenty and eleven?

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Miami Heat team?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yes or no?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (40:55):
All right, that's the that's the key.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Look key, do not do not disrespect my kid? But
I think are we good on that? I just said,
who got better after that series? Besides Tyson Champan, I
said who?

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Who?

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Vernon says you're bugging big? Somebody said no, that's my boy.
Austin Austin's in the chat saying no. But Austin Austin
bro all right, So does anybody have anything else left
on the final series they want to talk about? Obviously,
you ask me, what.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
What do you mean? Want to ask you? You asked
me something before that?

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Oh, I asked you.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
I don't even remember, I know Cam said that and
that that ship.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I know this, this is gonna be some good bump.
It's gonna be some good bump. I think.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
I think a lot of people are under underestimated. Small
market team.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Players are not from there. That guy on f S
one was talking crazy. You say that guy that said, oh,
I only want to see super stars? Did y'all see
that clip ahead? That's a dickhead. That's how you used
what's his name? I don't even know his name, bro.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
The first time I ever seen him, but he's on
the same network as Calling Coward.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
I saw.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I was like, Oh, I only want to see this,
and everybody's between this guy bugging probably we just.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Gotta we have to.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
This is like I said before, this is great for
the NBA.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
This is great for the new day and age of
talent that we got coming into the league. And I'm
excited to see it, and I hope we get it.
I don't want it to go five. I hope we
get a really good series just to show what the
NBA is. You didna, if you want that, I want

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my money from Ray.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, I feel you, I feel you.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I still got I still gotta pay Ray.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
And what's the name I get back.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
You gotta pay Cam. Charlie paid. You just got to
pay Cam.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah, brog whoa he mad because he said that dumb
ass Dallas niggadn't know.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I'm not fucking what fuck fuck nigga. Let me let
me know your team win a championship.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Vernon said it was Jason McIntyre that was talking crazy
on the show.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Do you all't even know that name?

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Somebody never heard of, never heard of a Jason mcat.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Y'all want to.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Stick in finals talk. This is going to validate Theo's point.
Y'all want to give THEO.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Some flowers or no deal flowers for what put up the.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Lebron image, Peter, THEO gona like this.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
After a loss and niggas want to talk about fucking
let's have to go.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Could be you know how you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Is this a validate your twenty eighteen forty points on
almost sixty percent shooting of fifty percent from three after
a loss?

Speaker 5 (43:43):
This nigga wasn't we're rounding up?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Do we not round up in America? I'm asking you,
I'm not, I am asking you.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (43:50):
All right, that's actually list.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
There's no way, there's no way, and you can have
the debate one and two. They are two players that
we will never forget a day in your life. Lebron
James is easily top two player ever to play this game.
You just knock, there's no there's no one. There's no one,
and I love Kobe. Kobe is three for me. There's

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no one fucking with Lebron James and Michael Jordan. Nobody.
It's you can you can say.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
No, there is no one, Nobody, nobody, there's no one
doing no talking about nobody.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Twenty three years.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Do we remember the twenty eight Do we remember the
twenty eighteen roster? Do we do you remember what that
look like?

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Rodney Hood, Kevin Love?

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Uh East was weak, George George Hill, it was it
was we're talking about the East was weak.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
No, he right though, the East was weak. But he
went he went band for band with that Charlotton, one
of Kurt themar But they got the marup up out
of there and they're like a sixty one t bro
and a great year, great year, Like it's just Lebron
was just that great. But the East was weak and
that nigga was hitting the left hand floaters.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
No, listen, we just.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Can't overlook Kobe.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Jordan Clarkson was I love Kobe. I love Kobe, but nigga,
let's so be Sokay. He had a fifty one point
triple double in the game. What are we talking about, Austin.
Kobe's not doing that. He didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
You want to talk.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
It's cool. We don't talk about Timmy versus we're talking
about we don't talk about a couple of rings.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Way, I love Kobe.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
I'm just saying, I'm just letting you know. But he
also had Shack Honestly, like I said, minus really personal.
So that's why I just don't have I just have
Kobe above him.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
That's cool with you. I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
And Charlie played in the All American Game with him.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
A couple of long cool bro, alright, cool bro, All right,
let's get to the next let's get to the next point.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
So, hey, do we give thee the ether beat for Tims?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah? Give go ahead, take them mind he let from
the Rico.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Fuck. All I can say, I know yourself. Nah, Look,
all I would say is I saw this ship coming.
It didn't matter what he did, he had to go
if he didn't win the championship, he was getting fired.
I like I said, I everyone knows I'm not a

(46:26):
big Tips fan. That's for my own personal reasons, that's
for anybody else whatever. But it was it is time
for a different voice. It was I think I think
you see the writing on the wall where it was
just gonna be the same thing over and over and
over again. You just hear the rumblings there tired and

(46:46):
like you kind of wanted to be something else, right,
And you got to understand a lot of people don't
want to play for TIBs. A lot of people understand
he's gonna have there's no there's no there's no guy
that's coming there be like, Okay, I could get some
good minutes off the bench. You know that's not happening.
He's riding with his start and five. They know they

(47:08):
need to change things up, they need to get They're
going to get a younger coach. They're going to get
someone who understands the makeup of making it that far.
Tims has had some of the best seasons in NBA
history with Chicago. He brought Minnesota back and put them
back in the playoffs. He's had one of the best

(47:29):
seasons in NICK history and did that. Congratulations. He is
a good coach. He is a great He is a
good coach, he really is. He is a He is
a good coach. I Am not going to take that away,
but but he he is not a sustainable coach for

(47:56):
star players and he's not a sustainable coach for guys.
Teams to get over that hump at some point, at
some point they are gonna hit a wall, yeah, because
he just doesn't he he doesn't adapt, and he's had
so many opportunities to adapt, and he tried to adapt

(48:17):
in Game six of the NBA Eastern Conference Finals, Like, motherfucker,
what why now?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah? Didn't he win the twenty one win Coach of
the Year?

Speaker 4 (48:28):
I was, Yes, I was, I was on the team
team yes, And the thing was, I would say this,
I've said this more. He will have you prepared. But
as far as the adjustments, he just thinks it's just
play harder. Sometimes it's not about this, because both teams
are gonna play hard. You know what I'm saying, Indiana's

(48:52):
gonna play fucking hard. What are you gonna do differently? Now,
there are certain things in the next series that they
had that he can He couldn't do nothing with I e.
Cat being in the drop. There's nothing you can do
with that barbecue chicken every time they came off a
ball street.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
But do you know that's what I want to ask you.
Could he not try to make some adjustments hid different.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
The only way they could hide it was with Mitch
being in the starter lineup, so you're you're you're gaining something,
but then you're losing something. There's nothing you could do
with that.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Could not try to add some different wrinkles into his defense.
Are trying to switch the coverage? I don't. I feel
like I just watched Cat get cooked the whole series,
so I didn't really change much.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I think Tims is the type of guy.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
He's kind of old school mentality, and there's good regular
season coach. There's also good postseason. He's a good regular
season coach. Postseason coach. I've always said in the postseason
is all about adjustment, and he doesn't make adjustments. He
sticks to that car though, he sticks to that game plan,

(49:57):
and that's it. Like he's not making no adjustments at all,
and we all knew that. And the Knicks don't lose
those first two games. You don't see the bench the
third game.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
True, you know, I think they fought the media and
the public forced his hands to kind of.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
It was not what I mean, he really didn't want
to change. Shut up, he was thinking to that.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Not adding mentioned to the lineup, he would have still
had him coming off the bench, he would never never
even play Shamman or Wright. Yeah, Man, Tims is just
not a good I don't think he's a postseason coach.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
So I heard that just came out. Report just came
out about the situation two minutes ago Andrea and Yeah,
anonymous NBA executive said kling through towns may have played
a role in Tom Table was firing. Who was on
the Timberwolves when Tim was the coach in twenty nineteen
when he got fired. Who's Kat's former agent, Leon Rose,
who is now the president of the Knicks. I wouldn't

(50:54):
be surprised if Kat told Leon and James though during
his extra interview that he didn't want to play for
Timbs anymore. They said he said something similar in tween nineteen.
I forgot he played for Tips on the hood. I
completely forgot that until I saw like a bunch of
pictures yesterday. Yeah, people, you want to play the key
clip because he was just referring to it.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
This's got a way of like letting you be you
m like everybody think Tim is like this hard coach
to play for that you gotta do it this way.
He really don't say ship.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
He just be down.

Speaker 7 (51:26):
Fuck damn, that's all you say. But he don't be
saying nothing. He don't be like, t go here and
do this.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
He don't really be coaching you. He gotta just be
like damn, damn it man, damn, that's all he saying.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
He's been making the funniest Come on, man.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Tims is the coach. Nigga, if you make a mistake,
you're gonna keep you, gonna let you stay in the game. Bro.
He don't say nothing.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
You know a lot of niggas are pot Tim. Literally
all you say.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Is damn and we just watched him.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
You gotta be here, damn.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
In the game. Bro.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
You can run, you can shoot anytime, you could run anything.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Like you.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
He lets you be a basketball player.

Speaker 7 (52:08):
Obviously, he gonna put the ball in his best player's hand,
so he gonna call plays for the best players all
the time. But other than that he don't say ship.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
I loved him about that, Like Bud to cuss you out,
you can tell Buddy, yeah, Bud, it be like.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
We get the fuck out the game.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Then if you don't want to play.

Speaker 7 (52:23):
Like Budd was like very direct, Tims would just be like,
come on, man, what are we doing? But he won't
say your name, he won't say that, But come on,
how fun with that?

Speaker 3 (52:35):
What do you think, Jeff?

Speaker 4 (52:36):
What do you think? Like, I don't know, trying to
keep you in the game.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Give me something like.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Trying to help you right now? You see something that.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
That that kind of wrash somes it up.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
I mean I never played for teams, but we can't hear.
You can't Peter know that was me. You come on,
dog Dog, I'm telling you when he hit it right
on the fucking head. Brod listen, listen, listen, bro listen Forbatim.

(53:18):
I remember on the team I was on, Bro, we
used to literally like make jokes in the locker room.
We knew, we knew certain games what his message was
gonna be. This nigga is like a recorder. It's like
he works on the same ship. He goes say before
the game, all the time. I promise you every TIBs

(53:40):
player that played for him, we will all have the
same damn stories, the same speeches, the same thing he
says in the damn uh in the timeouts, he don't
say nothing. Come on, man, we gotta play harder, you
gotta we gotta drop the go look at the exit, go,
look at the interview. He's like, we got to touch
the pain and we gotta spread out. He always saying

(54:01):
spread out for three reasons. Yeah, no, didty And he
ain't saying no diddy head. He's saying all that bread out,
touch the pain, connectivity and all ship like that. Listen,
everyone's all mad about him. Get you gotta understand there
was nothing gonna change. There was nothing that was gonna change.

(54:26):
They weren't gonna make the finals the next year if
he could, if he continued to coach you, they needed
something new. Timms has, Tims is, Tims is who Tims is.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't feel bad
for Tis. I thirty mail.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I'm sure, I'm sure you don't care that much.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
He can still get another job, Bro, He'll get hired.
We said I said this on the last Tims is
great at taking a bad team to make them a
good team. The good to great is the jump that
he hasn't been able to do yet.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
And make him great.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
I would have I would have him as an assistant coach.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
If I was a new if I was huh, he
ain't gonna do ship, right.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
He have you, He would have you, like as far
as he's like prepared, yes, I wouldn't go to him,
be like, all right, what's the adjustment to this? Because
he's gonna look at you like, play harder, play harder, harder,
keep that in the game, all right, But yeah, but no,
you all.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Is making an adjustment, stealing some dude.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
It's usually collective.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
It's usually collective, regardless if he's a sistant and had.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
Sometimes sometimes coach is really the head coach. But yeah,
but Tams don't let he don't. He ain't really listen
like that hear you coach, Yeah, I hear you, but
I don't think he hear you. But he don't really
hear you, you know what I'm saying, Like he'd be
so locked into the game, he don't really understand what

(56:07):
the fuck going on. Like my thing is, We've said
this multiple times. If you up twenty or up thirty,
down twenty down thirty. Why are your starters still in
the game.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
Well, today's game is man with no safe lead. Today's
game is twenty.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
With three minutes, with three minutes left, with three minutes possible.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Shit, no, three minutes. I'm pulling my starters.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
I'll get it to pulling them.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
It depends how to flow the game, and it would
have to be a perfect you need to it's a
seventh you can kind of tell with them a minimum,
it's a seventh possession game at twenty with three minutes left,
I mean Indiana aunch of time. Yes, but that was
a miracle, bro, Yeah, that was a mirror. That was
a miracle in the garden for the opposite team.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
And how crazy, How that's how fucking crazy the playoffs
is that? Bro? They lose that game, And I told
and I said it after that game, I said, they're fucked.
You can't lose that game. You not. You cannot lose
that game because when you lose something like that, that

(57:11):
just changed the whole trajectory of the series change. You're
playing on defense the rest of the time, and your
whole mental makeup is just so different. You're like, man,
fuck bro, you feel like you never have. You're never comfortable.
You're never comfortable because like, dude, we are we gonna
fuck this up again. And then they did. Then they

(57:32):
lost Game two.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
The question is this is a good question right here.
Who who do the Nigs go after? That was our
next point.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
I got you, I got you.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
I read the syllabas he had the script. He who
should the Niggs go after? That's that's I wants the question.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I mean, I got fel loves the name Johnny Briant
because he obviously has experience.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Why hold on?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
My thing is why is Mark Jackson's name is not?

Speaker 5 (57:57):
And that we told you he's black.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
This is the perfect perfect scenario. The dude that played
in the next he's from New York.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Come on now, they would love him.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Come on now.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
So let me ask you guys, this is Mark really
that different from Tims? Based on what we saw in
Golden State, I think, so yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I'm gonna tell you how, Dollar, I'm gonna tell you
how this ship. Also just said in the chat, I
really think.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
It's gonna be ja right. That's that's hello, weig, That's right.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
I think getting the keys to do to never coach
the fucking But I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell
you this right now. I'm gonna tell you this right now.
As far as basketball minds, he's a good mind.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
It ain't many better.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Jay Wright is a sick he they said he already.
Y'all want you want to lose Dan Hurley.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
I don't want to lose him, but ship I'd rather
put Dan h r special. Jay writes a better coaching
Dan Hurley here, this guy here, this man.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Yet mining camps, Mike Neut mining camps, michae Let, Charlie
and the go out of you. Not.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Brody Right is a one.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
The hell of a coach. He is a hell of
a coach. I'm just saying, way better than Dan Dan.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
As soon as Dan got the keys to being the
coach a college coach, he got two championships. That's all
I know.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah, but how long how long has Jay Right?

Speaker 3 (59:35):
No, that's part of my point. I'm saying they both
have to right, Okay.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
How long has Jay Right been coaching in college? What
happened is how long has Dan Hurley been coaching in college?

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Four years?

Speaker 5 (59:47):
That's a minute.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Five years.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
No, that's that has been coaching since, like that was
his first couple of years that was with Wagner and
stuff like that was coach. You know what because one
of that it's in New York.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
School, you know, in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I don't know nothing about made the low d Ones.
I'm not familiar with that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
I'm allergic this niggas, I'm allergic. I'm aer Yeah, that's
that's that's that's crazy to the mid majores man just
saying that has been coaching for a minute. Yeah, funny,
but I still think I'll let you know when he
started his coaching career.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yeah, let me know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
He's like Johnny I like Johnny Bryant, Jay Wright or
Mike Malone alsos.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Also they did offer Dan Her he said.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
No, twenty ten. Yeah, so fifteen years.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Fifteen years, you got it? How many tips you got dose.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
To Jay Right? How long Jay Right been coaching?

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Right has been around when I was fucking.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Cold, like j J Right been around least forty thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Okay, all right there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Jay Right been coaching, I got you since two thousand,
nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
And offstrawineteen eighty four, ninety four.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
That's thirty one years, thirty one years. I was ten
years old, but I retired.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
He retired in twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
He was at over years. I was ten years old
when he was coaching.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
So anyway, he got two champions copy copy, you give
Dan Hurley forty years, you're gonna have.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
I mean, let me ask you all this. I mean
I don't know Field know as well with Charlie? Ye
old enough?

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Where's Nova a steam program before he got there in
two thousand and one, I wouldn't know, or did he
build recruited me? But I mean did he build Nova
to what it is?

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
So Nova wasn't a big program? Okay, So then to
be fair, Dan walked into Yukon a blue blood come out?

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Was he not? He's it's not if it's not John, Yes,
he did do not do that? He walked into that.
He did.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
He's not wrong. Let me have a hold, old let
me let me, let me let me make something very clear.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
A couple of years.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
I think that was a great coach.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Kevin Olie won a championship with Yukon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Right, But but hang on, hold, coach, where's Kevin Charlie.
Let's keep let's keep the let's keep the facts of facts.
Yukon is a blue blood program. Nova was not blue
blue blood program, so he had to build that program up.
So let's also keep that in mind as well.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
So when Jay Wright won his championships, what year was that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Back to back?

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Yeah, he got back to back so early as a
back to back.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
No, I think Jay Right got three Jr.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
Might u he might have three.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
He got three because.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
He got too he got he might have win.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
He might have wit three times.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
He got t stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Wait wait, wait, wait, he about it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
He got twenty sixteen and eighteen seventeen. Was you seventeen?

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Was you theo you forgot your own championship? No?

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
No, no, I thought I thought he won nineteen too.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
He won eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Yeah, he wanted he wanted sixteen and eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
So anyways, I mean, we could debate this till till
the thing, but at the end of the day, Charlie,
the facts are that he walked into program he built.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Okay, hey, I like, h mean, he's a better coach.
I didn't say he's a better coach than not. But
I'm saying you can't compare the timelines if you walk
into blue blood program or you have to program.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Takes time to build.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
So when Hurley inherited the team, were they good?

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Saying they were worn? I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
But niggas will pay this because he's a blue blo.
It's like I was, Gon's gonna pas him off, you
know what I'm saying. Certain schools right, think.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
About all the good coaches, think about Jim Right, Dan
Herdley is the only one to win back to back.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I get it solid, It's all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
I'm not the one you're debating when you're debating with him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
College was down.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
It was bull college niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
When Jim Calhoun knew it was real different. Oh my god,
that's the real Big East on my own. You said, Charlie,
you agree with that?

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Do not?

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
You?

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Yeah, don't do that. We talked, we had this on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
My time, was totally the big Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
We're talking about nova Q's, Louisville, Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Pitt College basketball was way different when we played, Charlie,
I don't say we say me listen, we When I
played college basketball was legit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
It was it was let's let's move on from this.
So so you got Johnny Bryant and Jay Right as
the two candidates Steele. M how about you, Charlie, who
do you actually?

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
What's the question?

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Who do you want to replace the tips put? Or
do you have anybody else?

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Milone?

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I don't like Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Mike Malone. Where's he from?

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
New York? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Queens, New York? So I think that's that's a good narrative.
I like Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
I think Mike will will resonate and get to get
through the players.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
But I keep hearing who may he may whatever?

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
You know, there's no way he ma.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
You don't think you don't think they're trying to get you,
don't think they give him a blank check.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I'm not I'm not leaving Houston. No, Lie, I ain't
gonna lie. You're setting stand in Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Yeah, he's staying because he's building something off.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
The court, off the court. He stayed in Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Oh you got after court?

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Okay, he's stayed in Houston.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
I mean, why would you leave Houston? You have a
young core bill.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
And no income taxt, no income text, a blank check,
no income tax, and.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Then your best chance to get back at Boston.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
No, no, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
What you think, Charlie. So I'm just trying to just
put the narrative like, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
I think he may stays in Houston. I think he's
built something there. He could just right off to the
sun set there. He ain't never got They never fire
him in Houston. Gound bring a look, they do not care.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
He had those allegations in Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
They don't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
He still got his job.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
I'm trying to tell you that right now, he's staying
in Houston. Cool all right, listen, I want to ask this.
This is not on the syllabus.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
B talk me about who you got. You didn't say
who you got?

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Oh you really?

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
I'm with the Nova Knicks. I'm with the Nova Knicks brand.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
You gotta bring up first time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
He's Jay right though, he's he'll get the he'll get
the players approval.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
And and and honestly, hold on, hold on, hold on hold, no, no, no,
you hold.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Up, kidnap.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Can I get my second pick? I would try to
go get Nick Nurse. I think Nick Nurse would be
a good coach for this team.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Who when was the last time a college coach was
a good NBA coach?

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Might have been?

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Was it Patino?

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Was he a good coach?

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
And he does he wasn't thinking about it when was
the last time a good college coach?

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
What's a good NBA coach?

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
But I don't think a lot of them made the
move other than Billy Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I think a lot of power, a lot of Patino.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
But no but recent recent because coach Kane never came down.
Roy Williams, like all these great.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
There's a reason why they don't come down because in college, college.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Is a different, it's a whole. It's coaches will kind
of run the show.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
For sure. NBA players run, But I feel like I
don't think coach's college coaches make that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Brad Stevens, Lewis Stevens, where is he at? Was a
good coach?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Coach in the front office?

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I thought you were saying him come coach for the nick.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I'm talking about? Hey was he was a good coach?
Should transition from Butler? The thing I forgot about.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Jay Right would do Jay Wright would do fine.

Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
And I think I think Jay Wright would do fine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
They don't give them, but they're gonna give him the
bag and get rid of.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Who you got Camp?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Who you got Cam? I mean, why I want to
talk about Mike alone?

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I see that was my second pack.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Yeah, I think Mike Malone or Deal. Who did you say?
I can't think of Johnny Brian, Johnny Brian, I think
those only to that. To me, that makes any sense, Like,
I don't see they're not They're not going to be
able to even talk to the kid. I don't think
he's gonna let listen. I think you have to nurse,
bro I think I don't hate that Philly. I don't

(01:08:23):
hate it, but Nah, I think Phili will let them talk.
I think people let him talk. Nurse is unconventional. He
to try stuff. I think I like Nick Nurse on
this team. I don't think they just love Nick Nurse.
But we'll see, all right, can we move on because
we're kind of behind.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
So I want to ask a quick question though, because
still played for Jordan in Brooklyn as assistant, what do
you think of the move?

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Like him?

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
You know, it's crazy, Broe life life is really really crazy,
and you really got to be ten tails down and
where you are being the moment. Last year I went
to Indiana and I was at E y b L
and me and Jo I call him Jo. We were

(01:09:08):
literally just sitting there talking. He was trying to figure
out what his next move was. He was thinking about
going back to Michigan State coaching. He didn't know what
because he was with the Lakers and he had left
the Lakers and no, it was either the Lakers or Yeah.
So he was with the Lakers and we were just

(01:09:28):
sitting there talking and catching up or whatever, and he
was thinking about going back to Michigan State. He didn't
know if he wanted to go back to the league
or go to college and just do that have a
little stability. And then it gets to Cleveland. Kenny gets
to Cleveland. He was with Kenny, with me and Kenny
uh in Brooklyn, and then he find out a year
later the motherfuckers the head coach for the Phoenix Suns.

(01:09:51):
It's crazy. How crazy is that? In a year span,
like you go from not thinking about man, fuck, this
shit is crazy. I might go to college and now
he's the head coach for the Phoenix Suns. I mean,
really good dude, really personable, can talk to anybody. For
him to be a head coach, now, I'm very excited

(01:10:13):
for him. I think he's going to do a good job.
Very adaptable, layers coach.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
You haven't played for him for three years, but they
said three four years. They say he's really good at
offensive and defensive creativity.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
You agree with that, Yeah, that, I mean that that
was his thing. That was his role when I was
in BK. I think he was the he was the
offensive guy when I was there. Uh So, he very smart.
Like I said, he's gonna he's a sponge though, Like
he's not gonna sit here at like he knows it all.
He's gonna he wants everybody to have a voice and

(01:10:49):
be like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
He worked with Joe Harris a lot when I was
with BK, did a very good job with him, just
figuring out ways to get him shots and make the
star players better. So him understanding that, he understands what
the star player is and who they are and how
to make the people around them better. And I think
that's what you got to have as a coach, understanding

(01:11:12):
you know who your great players are, how can you
get the people around them to play at the highest
level so your team Because to see, so he's been
there and done it at a high level. He's been there,
done at a high level, but he hasn't done it
with that shitty roster that phoenix.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
But changes though, I just want to say this quickly, right.
It shows an era that the NBA is moving to.
Because one of the first things Steel said is that
he can communicate with guys can communicate.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
With That's very important.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
So that's very important. So you know, based on what
THEO said, he should probably be somewhat.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
So that's why that's why I said most older coaches
are probably going to be out, Yeah, because they're not
able to communicate. I know for a fact, r c
Rick Carlisle. I've from what I've heard, he is a
completely different coach than what he was in twenty eleven. Yeah,
because he had to adapt if he wants to adapt
to the players now, because what did we all say?

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
This is a player driven league.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
You have to make sure they feel like they you
fuck with them and you're listening, you hear them. If
you don't feel that way, you're gonna be tips.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
You know what's crazy that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
I say, Mike Malone is on more along the TIBs line.
That's why I don't like the Mike Malone or Mark Jackson.

Speaker 5 (01:12:25):
Very fiery.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
But the thing, but the thing is too just like RC,
he can change if he if he if he if
he goes a different route like RC did.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
He could be a very good.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Coach, you know. Or RC got fired in two thousand
and three by the Pistons and then the Pistons win
the chip, right, So do you think Tips getting fired?
You can kind of see outcome whatever. Whoever coach picks
the Knicks, I mean coaches the Knicks. They have a

(01:12:59):
chance on the East Are.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
You're talking about the Piston the next are gonna win?
I thought you meant the Tips. No, I don't think so.
I don't think unlet's the next make a big move.
I'm against it. How would you can help with you think.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
They gotta they gotta listen the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
If the Knicks got a lot that they have to
deal with right now because they gave up a lot
for Michale, but they still have a lot of assets.
I don't understand like you could. You can really build
a team around them if you get a good coach
in there and they get a great team.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Like I said, the East is astagrams.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
To be honest, do you like the roster? The next roster?
They got them to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
I'm saying, do you actually like that?

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
I think they don't make no big moves. Leave the
core guys, but add maybe two pieces off.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
The bench, and you think they're a championship and he
just does. I think they can compete. I mean they
did this year, okay, so uh they got a good chance.
They just need and I mean like they have the
star power they need, they have the big names, they
just need depth. I think you might move Mchael and
get more depth.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
That's like a Bobby port Is Well helping.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I love Jaalen as a player, but I don't think
it's playing styles conducive of winning At the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
You gotta figure someh it out. I think be killing
the at the ball. It's kind of like exactly what
Kobe said about James, Like, if you got to play
that io ball, it's tough to win the championship.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
What's this report that they're saying that Rick Brunson was
like a headache or some ship on the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Reports and sources. I mean, I wouldn't say, I don't
know it's bullshit or not. I just I don't know.
But you saw it though, Yeah, we saw the street.
The only person who can answer that is I, I
don't know. I feel it was not in the new
York locker room.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Uh plet fifth.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Yeah, you know we know who we can ask, right,
are you funny.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Talking?

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
He's in a group chat. That's all you need to do.
You know, you think about it, You think about it,
but listen, let's go to the next thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Anyways, anyway, hey, go ahead. I was gonna say, well, no,
Peter running clip that it's.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
A championship for Shane Gilgess.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
Alexander would not only make it, ensures his statue at
the tender range of twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
If you were to leave Oklahoma City after this year,
best be LEAEU.

Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
They're gonna put a statue of shake Gil, just as
Alexander forgiven okayc their first NBA championship in franchise history,
which I believe will happen. He's been unstoppable in these playoffs.
He's had an unbelievable run.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
He definitely getting a statue if he wins, though.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Too early, he's gonna stay there here.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Gonna get a statue. If he wins, he gonna stay,
he gonna get a statue.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
I'm with it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Hmmm, why would you leave?

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
If you're Shay know you better? You shouldn't leave.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
You shouldn't you're gonna be a legend like Dirk. You're
gonna be a legend like Staph.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
Why would you leave?

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
He'll get a statue.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
He'll get us if they win an okay, see why
would he not get a statue? If they win and
he continues doing what he does for the next five years.
If he plays there for just another.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Year or two, does he get a statue?

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Why he's we would even you're never get a statue?

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
Why you're playing that? If be hard?

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
The only person I think could do that is if
bron played like four more years, because they'd be like,
all right, nigga. Someone says about the statue for at
least two teams Pierce in Boston.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
His voice, his voice when he started that ship was crazy.
It was a little crazy. It was a little crazy.
I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
If he wins the championship, year definitely gets he might
need to get one. And if he's MVP, because you
know what, right, MVP, you know what about can you
give that Charlie's being disrespectful? There's two MVPs up in
that joint. Yeah, he's a third k D and Russ

(01:17:13):
got one rust for strickening one. He should get one,
but they might hold him. Russe needs to get one.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
I'm being honest though, I'm gonna be honest though if Shae,
Let's say Shane gets two championships and he finishes the career. Okay, see, Russ,
don't get us.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I don't think rust still needs to get a statue.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
You can't have to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
I mean, I mean, Shas can be the biggest one
up front, trust Is can be somewhere else, but he
needs a statue. I don't give it that anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
He just said somewhere else doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Not think about about the players that do have statue.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
No, because people have different statues. The l A Lakers
and all the statues.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
And they got the little baby.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
What I'm saying, I'm gonna say this, Russ. It was
like Russ chose to just get up and leave you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
It's not like it was this town to part where
he's from. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
I I personally think Rush does deserve one. I just
don't know. Like I said, I'm with and we just
hang out statues, you know what I'm saying. Like Wade
deserves the state he deserved.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
One conversation in Toronto Leonard deserves no.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
Bro, he says, yes, yes, No, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
Now you and they got a ring, you need to get.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Double oscar.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
The problem.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
This is the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
This is the problem right now. The reason I say
he deserves a statue is because kids are growing up
in Toronto right now not knowing about Kawhi Leonard. When
they go to the Toronto Basket, to the Toronto Arena,
they need to see this motherfucker be like, why did
the who is that? Listen?

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Listen, listen, listen?

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Who is who is who is this? Who is this?
Who is his dad? This is Kawhi Leonard. He brought
us our championship. Oh, they need to remember this man.
He brought Toronto Raptors the first championship.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Hey, from one of your good friends. He got in
the portal right after they won. If I had.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Listen, give my man a fucking statue. He deserves. He
brought Toronto championship. Make sure he's remembered. I got it here.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Talk about someone that probably won't get a statue anywhere
but definitely deserves one, just because he's one of the most.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Elite scorer of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Hulde not his statue, the sweepsteaks have been getting spicy
with Katie. We're here in Houston, San Antonio, Toronto wants
to acquire him.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
If they can't get you, honest, the ass has is
not high, So let's talk.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Why do you think it's not as older he started? Exactly?

Speaker 5 (01:20:06):
For sure, We're cool that one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Bring it down for everybody, you know, as THEO says,
the Mavericks have a chance. I know you don't want
to do it, but Derek Lively, no, but here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
Can you can you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Can you let me?

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
Can you let me finish? Phoenix is actually.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Looking to Choir Center. That's reported that they were looking
to Choir Young Center. Is there a better Young Center
in the lead than Derek Lively?

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
That's probably exactly so why the mass will get rid
of it? My point, Hey, listen, I'm just saying, and
there is a better Young Center, but we just can't available.
So my whole point is that Derek Lively. So essentially,
the MAVs are on the table because they have an
asset that they're looking for.

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
We have Houston, we have the Raptors. What do y'all
think we have the Spurs?

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
Let me ask Charlie.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
This is a reaction to Tito.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
There we got Charlie.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
Listen, uh uh, you're able, if you're if you're able
to give up Lively without giving up the number one pick,
you get to keep Cooper. Are you doing it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
No? No, Cooper, Kadie, A D and Kyrie who.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Still have That's fine, But I'm thinking you still got
to prepare yourself for the future because this team that
you have right now is only for one or two
years because Cooper still going to be there. That's Cooper
is still going to be there. That's fine, but you
got to build around that. And I think Lively and
Cooper together that's scary. I'm not getting rid of it. No,

(01:21:36):
because you can still win without KD.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
You could.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
You can still win without k D without giving up Lively.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
You could win your chances go way up?

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Hold up?

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
Hold on with a D, Kevin de Rick, Kyrie, IRV
Cooper flag you got me fucked up that ship yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
Let's ask Charlie the question, can you win without Derek Lively?

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
Mm hmm?

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
You are you being serious?

Speaker 5 (01:22:11):
Kevin Drown?

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Can you win with up?

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
Can you?

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
I'm gonna say this right they haven't done it. I'm
say I'm the finals doesn't mean you want I'm gonna
say this. I'm gonna say this as a mass fan, right, Like, Look,
do I want them to trade Derek Lively? Know? But
if we're gonna keep it a real book, keep it
a real book, right, let me finish, Keep it a
real book. How many games has Dereck Clalley actually played?
He's been hurt, He's he's only twenty one years old,

(01:22:35):
and he's already had a major foot injury that already
got mismanaged, right, Right? Do I want us to continue
trading young players?

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
I think this ship is stupid. Right, But if the
price is just Lively a pick and like Hardy, you're
gonna Clay, you got to match the salary. Oh yeah,
Clay and like a couple of pigs, Bro, like I'm doing,
I'm gonna think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Charlie's numbers up before you before you start, Before you start,
Charlie's the numbers guy on Wax.

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
You ready for this? Numbers? He's played total of ninety
one games in two seasons.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
In two seasons, ninety one, that's forty five games the season.
You're a numbers guy, Bro, it's forty five games the season. Yeah,
he'll get right, He'll get right, all right, Bro, he's
twenty one, twenty two. You're wrong, but I'm saying it also. No,
he's also saying this.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
A game is wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
One season.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
He's only played pretty much one season.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
Okay, he's been hurt. Okay, we haven't seen well he
can really, but we've seen glimpses of it. Right, say
we just traded.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
I just say we.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
On the payroll, trade it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
He's on the pay on the payroll, the bag looking
like from the masters.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
I'm gonna make a call. I'm gonna make a call.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Give me your payroll.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Hey, look, let's say this.

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
They just traded Luca Dodges. They don't pay, Bro, they
are are in They are in there now if I
ever seen it, if they have a way that could
keep Cooper Flag and just trade Lively, PJ. Washington and
fucking probably Clay Clay, Clay, who gives a Clay? I
would rather go after Jannis. Thank you don't have to

(01:24:18):
the number one would you name?

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
You got to keep Coop, you got to keep an asset,
and bringing number a number one option. I'm keeping my
youth and bringing talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
No no no, no, no, no no. You got to
hear what he's saying. Though.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
You get to keep cool, Cooper, and I get to
bring in Kad.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Listen, KD is a phenomenal I give what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
I give you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
When was the last time k D was like I
took a team somewhere Golden State seven years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
You don't need to take a team he has running
with Ad and Kyrie motherfucking Irving, the most skilled player
ever touching basketball. He don't take and Cooper Flag, I'm
say the work he did with Phoenix, that wasn't his
fun though, Bro, I'm done.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
You know I'm done.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
Then nigg that nigga had twenty eight Brooklyn, he talked
to hold on Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Was it was different, Broke, that was his toe. He
would a turf toe.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
He played forty seven minutes and Steve Nash hugged him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Like like what now Brooklyn went on him forty seven minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
I was saying on that Brooklyn wasn't on him at all.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, looking excuses, Okay,
hold on, hold I give you the signs, but Brooklyn
on him at all.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
Let me handle this? How you going to stop his life?

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
Got this?

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
How you're going to stop a Kyrie Irving and eighty
pick and roll with Katie on the wing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
You're not all right?

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
That's it. Let's let's move on from this topic.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
How does your feel are you going to stand k
I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
I'm starting to think about it. Bro. If we if
our whole point is like, oh, we got a lot
of injury prone niggas, right, you kind of do trade.
You're kind of trading an injury pron nigga for a
nigga who don't get hurt off because kay don't really
get hurt often. He played seventy two and sixty five
thirty seven True. Look again, I wish you. I really
think we just I think we add little pieces. But

(01:26:05):
if we are going to blow up, if we don't
really do it, I'm not mad. If we keep Cooper
and do that ship, I would I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
Want us to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
You would you rather keep Cooper him?

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Or would you rather coep Derek Lively and get another
great piece? Because this is my thing, bro, this is
my thing. Bro. He he really like Derek Clivey play
every other three games for real, You'll talk to your man, bro,
he really do like after I love it. I love
Derek still, young Bo, but like he's had some scary injuries,

(01:26:36):
young bro, like a mismanaged foot injury, not even just
when that was misdiagnosed and mismanaged as a as a
set big man.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
The the uh the it just makes the most sense
for Dallas. Honestly, you're in the window mode. You just
trait Luka. You gotta go get a guy so you're not.
You don't want to put that much pressure on Cooper flag.
What's the best way to learned from for Cooper? K
D and A A D and Kyrie Irvin on your

(01:27:06):
like you get to literally mold this dude to a fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Start going to jailk like each other.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Do you think the Phoenix would do that trade? Who
Phoenix would?

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
I think you gotta. I think if you give a
PJ Derek Lively and a pick I think you Yeah.
I don't see why you get whoever it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Is anywhere you don't get a better offer than that.
I definitely think that. I think the issue is we're
not talking about whether what they would not get. You're
saying you wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do that trade.
All right, let's move on, let's move on. We're not
We're not going to convince Charlie now.

Speaker 5 (01:27:40):
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
But as has been reported is that san Antonio is
probably his preferred destination. We're looking at Devin vassel A
Pick and Harrison Barnes. The boy san Antonio would be
scary if that happens. Yeah, Wimby and KD and dear Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
And Castle, that's gonna be a good team. Feel shaking itself?
Why you're shaking your head for the talk to us?

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
Nasty work like in a battle. K D in the
spurs jersey. That's nasty.

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
It kind of is a nasty look. But would it
not work?

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
It will work.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
It just makes you think that will work before Dallas.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Yeah, no, I wouldn't. There's no hold up.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
Hold on, is he on payroll?

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
Is he on pay the Mavericks. He's at the Mavericks.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Ball ball and ship every year. Listen, he is on payroll.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Bro. We just got to slide the entire time. Motherfucking
Charlie is on payroll. Bro, Yeah, you do be the
main one. Cuse the niggas on payroll. You might be
an agent agent, you might be a double every year.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Listen, when you have that, we don't see and KD.
It didn't work. It didn't work.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
But like each other.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
This is the problem when you put too many stars
on one team, that that that that uh, your theories
hasn't working.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
On You're gonna, you're gonna, You're just gonna throw out
the fact that Kyrie almost broke his ankle in Boston.

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
You're gonna throw out the fact.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
That James Hardening was his hamstring was hanging on for dear.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
Life in that year.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
And the thing is next would have worked, The next
ship would have are gonna at all it would have worked.
They didn't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
They didn't work.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
The ship works the game.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
So it's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
But so that's why I said, we don't trade an
injury prom nigga for nigg who don't get here like that?

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
OKAYU, K let's let's put k D on the mage.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Are you serious right now? But you also mind you
Kyrie not there for half the year, not there for
half to get a point guard? Yeah, Chris Paul somebody
like that. Yeah, she wouldn't work with Chris Paul being
running point y'all got it again. I'm not saying you
go after it making trade. I'm just saying if it falls,
I wouldn't. I don't know if I say no. All right,

(01:29:55):
So if they the Sons called me, was like, hey
we want Lively, p J and the pick. You're saying no,
k D, it's not attractive.

Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
I mean, he's a phenomenal play. I'm not taking nothing
with from Kd's superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
You are taking something with I'm not taking the last
time he had a team? You said, when's the last
time he let a.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Team that's not sexy?

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
You haven't told me kat Is Whomen's the last time
he led a team able to keep Cooper bro was
last time?

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
But you're not answering my question.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
He already answered the question, the answer the question. I
actually answered this question. He just doesn't want to hear
he did. I said he doesn't need to leave this team.

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
He doesn't need.

Speaker 5 (01:30:34):
It's led with a D Kyrie and k D as
a and you think he and.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
You think k D can be second fiddle or third fiddle. Yes,
I haven't seen him do it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
I see him doing when Steph wanted to go, I
never seen him do it, bro. This is why I'm
gonna put my bro my guy, Charlie. I put it
to you very simply, very very simply. Okay, we have
seen Katie work.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
When the pieces fit Kyrie, Katie and A D and Cooper,
those pieces fit to me on paper. And there's talents
because you don't have to you can play them all
the same time, all the time. That's the point. I
just don't see it happen. So let's move on to
the Yeah, do you like the Rockets or san Antonio better?

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
For Katie? I like rockets.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
I like rockets look way better.

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
What do you what did do you? Did you see
the trade package of rockets?

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
I didn't see it. I just know that they talked
about it. I heard they trying to get rid of
with more and some other. I mean, it's kind of
whoever you ask for it. It's kind of whoever.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
I guess they do. You trade? So let's know they
want to think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Do you trade?

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
We're talking When we talk about this, we have to
actually put it in perspective. Neither one of those teams
makes sense because at the end of the day, neither
one of the motherfuckers got it big.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
That's what I'm saying, that they can trade. You can't trade.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
You're gonna get You think you think Houston gonna give up?
All right, bet we got we got Doc Landale. Shout out,
hold up, hold up. I will say this, shout out.
I will say this. I mean they said they're looking
for center. That doesn't mean that's what they'll actually go
get out in free agency. But the thing is they

(01:32:14):
have to they don't have a center.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
I said, that's why the Mavericks the Mavericks, that trade
would make sense, and they would probably one.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
I said, have I k ship again?

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
No, we're talking about Katie to San Antonio the Rock, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Just saying why he was talking about I wouldn't look.
Let's move on, Ready to go?

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Can we shout out with mister Crabs and the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Chat Mister Crabs, he says, you can shut them.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Shout out with mister Charlie.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Y'all wild Crabs, I an't rocking with you on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
I'm rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Mister Crabs did also shot up the earlier rolling. All right,
let's move on from Katie. Is everybody good? Anybody got k.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
Man Dallas he is, He's gonna be in Dallas prepared.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
I promise you that's not happening. I talked to Nico,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Did you ask Nicodev has season tickets? I did, Oh,
he gonna have season tickets when we gonn see Nico
in the rolls like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
I did this.

Speaker 5 (01:33:21):
This one's dear to my heart.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:33:23):
This is not dear in my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
But no, no, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
There's been a lot of chatter that Jannie is better
than Tim Duncan. How do y'all feel about that? It's smoking, yes,
smoking rocks good crack. Yeah, Like yo, what do y'all
think when I see I get it. They didn't see
Tim Duncan.

Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
He had a quadruple double in the finals.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
I get it. He had a quadruple He had a
quadruple double in the finals and was twenty one years old.
What the fuck are we just dunked on Ben Walls
stairs insane?

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
That's over shocked. Come on, bro, Tim Duncan's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Come on, bro, Yeah, I think it's He a five
time champion, played five time champion, he got five of six.
He's made the playoffs every single year he's been in
the league. He won and five four different decades. Ninety
nine two, three different decades, my fault, three different decades.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
He's the only player ever do that. What are we
doing here?

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I don't even know who said that argument.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
There's a real debate online about it. I love Gianni, bro,
but he has one championship.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Got one chip.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
They talking about moving teams and it was the last
time Tim Duncan was in fucking trades. Never never exactly
why because he's fucking the man.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
He was a rookie and with that nigga as the rookie.
B Bro, what do you what do you think you
haven't had any your time kissed this ship?

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
Go ahead? Ye look this that that that one's nutty.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
He's the greatest posession of all times.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
One of the best players ever to play that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
He's the greatest power of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
He's the powerful, the greatest power of all time. Yeah, Ben,
defensive played. You're getting banged on.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
That is a pause, But go ahead, because everybody keeps
cutting you off.

Speaker 4 (01:35:07):
I'm sorry, No, you're good. It's not really everything I
wanted to say. See you said it. Everybody bugging that
that is insane.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
In the same.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Is he's that, bro, he is He's the elite.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Come on, bro, people don't understand just because he's one
jab step shoot off the bank.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
But I told you not active. That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
But we are we are creatures of the now. We
get so hyped on recency of like who people are
boom boom boom.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
We do that all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
Like when Tray Young, when Trey Young, when Trey Young.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Was fucking hooping.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Uh, we thought he was one of the he was
the best point guard ship like that, everybody was raving
about him. Now everyone's talking about Tyree's How Tyres Taliberts
want to have him one hell of a fucking series
playoffs run right now? The motherfuckers not top ten in
the league. Yeah, I have to stop you there.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
But you're in the league. That is what are you
doing for me?

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
You know that? Right? Yes, but he's not top ten
in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
He's not.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
He will be. He will be. He will be top ten. No,
I don't think fucking next year, starting next year, No,
he will not. Okay, Okay, I can. I can name
you ten players better than Tyree's calib don't say k
d Rush, don't name you bog Okay Bron guards Ron

(01:36:45):
that wrong? You said, I don't think Bron is top ten.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Okay, I'm I'm gonna stop you there, but I don't
think he's top ten. I talk about point guards. I
don't know we talk about top ten players.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
I'm talking about players, play players. He's not a top
ten player in the NBA.

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
He's not a top player.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
He will be going into that season.

Speaker 5 (01:37:03):
All right, stel give us your listen.

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Is he better than Pascal?

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
That's it's funny becauseeah, like we.

Speaker 5 (01:37:13):
Charlie answer the question. Had put the time on.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
I'm asking you, Cev, I'm asking is he better than
Pascal Siaka?

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
The way you just hesitated that past is not even
close to the top ten in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:37:29):
No, I said, yes, all.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Right, give it, give us your tenth field, give us
your take.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
Give me He's not better. He's not better than Lebron,
James Kevin Durant. Uh, I'm talking. Do not do not
confuse Kevin Durant and Lebron's career.

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
And a half points last year.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
What the.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
KD average twenty eight and a half points last year?
What are we talking about? Listen, it don't matter, you
do it every year, guys, let's field finishes.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
You don't even make the player.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
His list. Come on, Kevin Durrant, Lebron, James, Luca, Dodgett,
Shay and jo Kic Jannie, Uh Steph. I don't think
he's better Steph. I don't think he's better than Wimby.
He's not better than Kate Cunningham. He's not better than uh.

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
J t JT healthy J.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
He's not better than Jaylen Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
He's not better than Joel embiid when he's healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Joel ebiiduk. I'm missing Devin Booker.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
He's right, he's not top ten. He like top fifteen,
top twenty. I get him top twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:38:40):
He's not better than Donovan miss finals? Right, Uh, let
me ask you this? Are you?

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Is it ring culture for you?

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Is he in the finals?

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
All?

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
Said? Hey, is he? Let me ask you this. Let
me ask you.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
The best player on the team the awards?

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
Cebebe put ce Be on the screen, right, I.

Speaker 5 (01:39:04):
Agree with it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
I'm just saying that's Charlie on the screen.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
So when Jayalen Brown won m v.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
P, who's he was playing better than just Tatum?

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Who was the best player on that team?

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
It's still you don't want it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
You don't let me ask you this. I'm not forgeting
you take it Tray Young or Tyre's Halliburn. Who's better
do the same thing he's doing home home watching Tyre's Halliburn.
He do the same thing that Tyres Halliburn is doing.
With Tyr's Halliburn. You're tripping.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
I'm taking Tray Young can do the exact same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
And because Young is in the same conference as Tyre's
Halliburn and Trey Young is at home, is on the
worst team. I think Trey Young could do better at home.
I think Tray Young can do the same thing Tarry's caliber.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Has Trey Young ever been a star? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Yes, yes, multiple times, untile times.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
I think he meddles MS.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
Four time All Star, four time All Star, Okay, gold medalist.
You know that's you. We know that's politics. He's Adidas
athlete and asking.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
I'm just letting you know we know that's politics.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
We don't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
We know that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
We know because olymp We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna,
We're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Guys, I'm gonna kill. Is Harrison Barnes better than Tree Young?
Because he was an Olympic gold medalympian.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
Harrison better?

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
What did you say? What was the question?

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
Is Harrison Barnes better than young because he's a gold
medal olympian?

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
All right, that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
I'm talking about. Shawn Prince better than who's a prince?
Better than Tracy McGrady because he's a gold medal? Absolutely not, absolutely, absolutely, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie.

Speaker 4 (01:40:47):
Listen, Charlie, well in this all right now? If you're
building the team, Charlie right now shouts the team. I
got a motherfucking t Jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
That's what saying. Like, what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
I mean, hold on, listen, you're not listen to me.
Are we building a team? How are we building this team?

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
Okay? This team?

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Olympical medals don't mean nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
I didn't say they don't mean nothing. But it depends
on your role.

Speaker 5 (01:41:16):
We're talking about Tracy McGrady.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Hey, did Tyreee Halliburton play in the last five games
in the knockout round?

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
I didn't do nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
All right, then there he was on the move. Let's
move on.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
He was on the team though, Let's move on. He
was on the team.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
Let's move on.

Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
You means let's move on, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna give Austin some I'm gonna
give Austin some differences.

Speaker 5 (01:41:40):
McGrady, you have, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
For you?

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
All right, So Austin put in the chat earlier. Let's
talk about Tim mccobe quickly. I don't want him just
be crazy. That's a tough debate, but just give me
an answer because we can talk about a whole for
a whole hour.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Kobe Kah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
I like Kobe better, but it is fucking clothes. So
you got I'm just I'm choose peace today. You got
Tim Kobe, Yeah, I got coked nobody picking. Some people
are picking very closer than you think, though. And I've
said before, I said Tim before, but I've gone between both.
All Right, we're gonna go to We're gonna go to

(01:42:17):
exhibit one, Peter, can we go to exhibit one?

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
This is for Charlie.

Speaker 5 (01:42:20):
We did this especially for Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Okay, wait, wait, so we.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
Got exhibit one. Jesus shuttles Worth. Hey, people don't know
he could really punch on punch on people when he
was young.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
God, So we got exhibit.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
One Okay, what's the exhibit I'm just just wait.

Speaker 5 (01:42:37):
Okay, it's goed to exhibit to.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
I know he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
Okay, you haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
You haven't figured it out yet.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Well he's doing the best.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
Guys from you coming, No, just wait and then THEE
I mean, Peter, Let's go to Exhibit three.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Charlie's teammate Bench start cut who you got? My god,
Ben start cutting?

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
I do this for you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
We're gonna do this for you.

Speaker 5 (01:43:05):
And c when raised back, Oh my god, benk.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
I'm gonna keep it a buck.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Was Ben was cold?

Speaker 4 (01:43:20):
Ben?

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
And you called have to go with b start b.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
G starting because I played with BA. I played with
Rip two in Detroit, but b G. I saw b
G in the flash in college Mass bad man. He's
a bad man. They used to call him Madison square Gordon.
Oh that's yeah. He started.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
He started feeling. So that's hard.

Speaker 4 (01:43:46):
Square Gordon.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
You gotta start, got start him.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
That's what I never heard that. That's a ball ready
for click, Charlee.

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
Madison Square Gordon is my I'm starting. I am benching
Rip Hamilton because nineteen ninety nine he brought the.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
First chip to Yukon.

Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
Ray College. I have to cut you, Ray, and I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to apologize. Ray is on a different level.
Don't but this is this is this is Yukon, this
is Ray. I'm sorry, I gotta cut you, but I
gotta go with my two champions. That's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Fair can't be that I thought very fair. You thought
i'd say that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:39):
I thought you were That's a that's a great explanation. Hey, listen,
if a mother first of all, Madison square Gorgon brot.

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
I never heard that before.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
Come on home, little reason, you'll see it, y'all. Was
a problem is a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
Now Athletic.

Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
Played today.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
Watch today's game was cold.

Speaker 4 (01:45:14):
He was so cold, but he was rookie, was a
rookie the year and six damn up on the first
rookie to win six minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
Yeah, he was cold. BG was so cold. That mean
that's funny though. All right, let's get back to us.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
I can't wait to see the u n C. John,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
I was gonna put the point guards by side. I
ain't gonna let Ray. So we got two un C
one one and I got another one. Breaking news, breaking
news as a one minute ago, breaking news. So I
remember how I said earlier, they said the maps might
not let Jason Kidd talk to the dicks. There's a
possibility saying just kids might just want to be out

(01:45:54):
of Dallas. That's reported by ESPN one minute ago.

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
You know why I would say that possibility because I
think Jason Kidd was blindsided with the Lucas.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
And I do agree with that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:05):
And they're showing it. That's the picture that used.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
That's exactly because he's he's like, fuck, yeah, I didn't
tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Yeah, the press just throwing me under the press the
blender right now.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
That's ship.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
I can see that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
I can see that what happens if Jason Kileys we
could match too.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
Good thought steal.

Speaker 5 (01:46:23):
You played for Jason recently. You're a nick legend. He
also a Dallas legend.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
It's a nick legend all that. Hey, listen, bron He said,
the day's taxes matter.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Yeah, he got kids New York.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
His kids go to New York, that New York, Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
They motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
But they're gonna write him a check though, you give
for they're gonna write him a check to make up
for those Probably do you guys like to fit like
forget the checked aspect.

Speaker 5 (01:46:54):
I mean, you guys like to fit.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
He's a he's a good players coach, and he could
he works here working we.

Speaker 5 (01:47:01):
Put you on the spot or no.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
I think he might help with Brunst and how he plays.
What's the relationship like the don't plead.

Speaker 4 (01:47:08):
The fifth bro relationship?

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Like what Kid and j Brunson?

Speaker 4 (01:47:14):
Oh they love each other? They were they were super tight,
like super tight. I would even to say they were
tireder than Luke and J Kid.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
Hmm, So this might be a real fit.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
I gotta be. And I got a question, do you
get rid of He's not going to whichever coach comes in.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
Ricksne Rick's gone no. But but if he asked Nico
to leave, Nicole's not gonna hold him hostage.

Speaker 4 (01:47:40):
No, but he's not on the listen, bro. He got
he got older kids. He has kids that's in school.
Like the move them to New York is a lot.
They're they're set, they're set, they're settled there. New York
is not an easy place to just move to, you
know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta be in a
different place of life. I think his kids just becoming

(01:48:03):
going into high school and stuff like that, playing baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
He ain't going nowhere, But you could keep your kids
in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
You know you don't, but you want to be there.
You can do more with being here, you know what
I'm saying. You can see you can be involved with
them in their lives and when you got off days,
you could go to their games and ship like that.
You can't really do that if you in New York
and they could still be playing right now.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Money talks you and if they offer him a crazy bag,
come on now.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
And if he is actually if he is having thoughts,
I mean, let's let's put let's tell you what you
said right, He was blindsided, I mean that means something
like it does if you blindsided me as a head
coach and you've changed my whole team dynamic, like I
don't want to be here.

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
That could be the possibly that I'm not saying.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
I'm not speaking for ja kid, I'm just speaking for
if I was blindsided like that as a head coach,
I'll be like, what the hell?

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
At least, why you guys are not consulting with him,
Like you're not going to bring me to the fun
table and ask me what I think I would look
at the difference I would.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
I don't think evaluating from that process that pathway as well.

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
Uh, you gotta think about it. A situation where you trade,
look at chess, how much conversations are you really having
with a lot of people? You got to ask your
head coach, bro, you like, we're about to make that
there's a lot of there's a lot of people that
don't know a lot about a lot of trades. Though

(01:49:34):
I should just happened, I said, I'm saying he didn't know.
I think he didn't know either. But I think a
lot of coaches don't know about trades because I think
a lot of coaches it's just like the Mike Malone thing.
Not not saying it's the same level, but like mikeael
Malone thinks a certain way, the GM thinks another way.

(01:49:54):
Next thing, you know, they both get can't.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
What I think happened is I think he came to
the kid and was like, are we having problems with Luca?
And he probably agreed, but he wasn't like, let's trade
the nigga. He was like, well, if you haven't problem Lucas,
you should be mad at I traded. That's how I
feel like that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
There's no way j K being a former player and
be like, yeah, a co signed on trading.

Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
Look, that's what I'm saying. Like he might have had
his issues. They might have had some issues, but they
don't mean he was like trade the nigga. Like you
know what I'm saying. That's why I think happened because
but I don't know, I feel like Kid probably a
little comfortable. I mean, it's not like it's not like
he's in a bad coaching situation either.

Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
It's not like, I mean, he has an opportunity to
coach fucking Cooper Flag. That's that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
It's not like he's like, he's not a bad coaching situation.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
You know, Listen, this number one pick has changed everything
in that whole organization.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
Gave niggas hope for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
It gave us hope.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
It gave it gave Dallas life. And like deal said, Broke,
New York is a different animal. Bro dealing with that media,
dealing with.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
That pressure, even dealing with Dolan.

Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
He's us. He's used to that.

Speaker 5 (01:50:59):
But I don't think it was a superstar.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
I understand, But like the way Jake Kidd is now different,
I don't know if he even like he wants to
deal with that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
It's gonna aid you, that's for sure. Said you got
kids kids, that is in a comfortable situation right now,
like bro up here on that. But no, just yeah,
so we can get back to it. But you want
to pivot to let's just.

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
Talk about on the raptors. That's that's a hot rumor.
What y'all think that keeps going? Y'all said, probably wasn't
happening when the first set. I didn't believe it either,
but it seems like it's real.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
I don't think I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:41):
I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:41):
I don't know why wants to play in Canada so
badly or Toronto.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
I feel like this is the one player that has
actually actively looked it's near because he instinctively said he
didn't want to go where they have Texas and he has.

Speaker 5 (01:51:53):
I don't think he's the worst place. I think that
was a report doesn't mean.

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
Okay, But I think it's more. I think, like I said,
when they go to these players, they're going with the plan.
He must like the plan. They went to go to
Kawhi Leonard, they had a plan. The team they put
around on that Toronto Raptors team that was a championship
went level team from day one.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
Yeah he's still there's still there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
Besides the fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Besides him since he was a kid too because of
the NBA Africa stuff, so Aside tried to get him
in twenty thirteen when.

Speaker 4 (01:52:31):
He was drafted that looking more realistic, I'm seeing the script.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
I'm seeing the script.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
I'm seeing you come with a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
And you know he has trusted Aside too, because they've
known each other for since for like ten plus years.
So I mean, I don't like it though, because I
like b I with with Jet Arnist. But if you
go to the Spurs more than Maths like have a
way better chance.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
You're dealing with some animals in the west Bro ship.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
I don't think. I don't don't think Jannis wanted to
see Denver fourteen. I still think he.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
With with Wemby or I'm I'm happy to see you.
It's not like he gonna not be with niggas, Like,
it's not like he's have a squad weby and you're
not happy to see anybody who's stopping that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
If he goes in Toronto, Katie gotta be on the
way to or something.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
They got the gotta be like a k a Co
situation where they knew Paul George was. Let me give
context to that, right, The Raptors want to acquire either one,
even without honest they're looking to acquire just make a
make a splash.

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
They think.

Speaker 4 (01:53:36):
My thing is if you if you get the fuck No,
that's I'm gonna be honest. If if Jannis went to
the Raptors, that's like a lateral move to me, in
my opinion, I agree with you, similar to Milwaukee. What
the fuck is the difference?

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
Yeah, like honestly, because you gotta give up Scotty.

Speaker 5 (01:53:55):
It's not like Scotty gonna be there either.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
So but who's coming? You don't know who's going.

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
That's what I'm saying. There has to be a plan,
has to be. It was, but to ignore it, let.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Me ask you, guys, this does b I and Yannis
not resemble Chris Middleton and Yannis at all?

Speaker 5 (01:54:19):
The combo?

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
I mean, I think he's a better score. I think
Chrisdton is a better defender.

Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
Yeah, God, that ship didn't work the first time. Katie
just got a big ass foot.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
Oh my god, we're not doing this. I mean, he's
not wrong, but we're not doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
Doing it. You're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
That's not we're not doing that. I mean, look, bro, Jannie,
I'm gonna say it again. Ryance takes his assay Atlanta.
But I don't know why, like why we're not talking
about like why why that isn't the place he would
go to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
Like Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (01:54:49):
It makes so much wants to go to Atlanta. Bro,
what Atlanta?

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Lanta is the fire city.

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
Let's say, what are we talking about the team? I'm
talking about the team, they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
What's about Toronto?

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
No offense to anybody, but we talk about Toronto the six.

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
Toronto is a better city in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
I don't care what anybody says. I'm gonna die on
that sword.

Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Maybe remember I got too many tasks Atlanta. But okay,
so anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
Better than Atlanta. Did he picked Memphis over.

Speaker 5 (01:55:18):
He didn't pick Memphis over.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
Time might have been.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
Formula on New York. New York is the greatest city
in the world. Toronto is just a baby version of it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
New York is not the greatest world. But that's just
it's not no, all right, we we signed off on
that you'll have any last New York.

Speaker 4 (01:55:38):
Okay, So what city you're putting over?

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
New York?

Speaker 5 (01:55:40):
New York is the greatest city in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
What are you putting over New York?

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
I couldn't live in New York, but I could acknowledge
it is the greatest city on this New York. But
it's the great because it's just way too busy for
me to live a normal life.

Speaker 5 (01:55:53):
But it is the greatest city. But that's also why
it wouldn't be my great.

Speaker 4 (01:55:57):
What city would you put over? Say Memphis or so
I can.

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
get in trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:56:08):
What's the greatest city on Earth? And what's the greatest city?

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
And we ended it, I'm not I'm not getting trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
He's gonna pleade the fair.

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
Bro, What do you mean you're not gonna get trouble?

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Say you're gonna make it with your chance?

Speaker 5 (01:56:18):
Say Dallas. So what's the greatest city on our greatest
city on Earth? I'm pleading crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
What you got?

Speaker 5 (01:56:26):
Who's the greatest city on Earth that you've been to?

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
I would throw this fucking stand through this TV screen.
What you care for what you say, Miami, I'm not
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
I understand.

Speaker 4 (01:56:44):
Niggas niggas. Okay, Okay, I was gonna say, l A.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
What's wrong with l A? L A is not l
A trash, l A city over the city.

Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
The city of l A is weak, though, But even
people who live in l A will tell you that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:01):
Respectfully. Okay, respectfully, respectfully. I like the temperament and the
people better.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
I think.

Speaker 5 (01:57:10):
Hey man, New York and stops, bro. He said in
l A.

Speaker 4 (01:57:14):
He likes I'm gonna hold you. I love New York. Niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
Niggas will walk into you and not saying ship, but
I'll be ready to fight in New York.

Speaker 5 (01:57:21):
What he's talking about, how New York just moves go.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
If you see how it was acting, they just want
the game, bro, Yeah, niggas niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
New York is for real.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
Them niggas would have got shot up in the crowd
if that happened in Texas for real. That's crazy. That's crazy,
Like you can't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
What are you talking?

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
We don't violence.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
I don't either, But what's the point I'm saying? They
just go jump niggacause he got to Terres, Halliburn and
Jerms y'all different New York. That's not crazy, So why
the fun would I want to live there? Hey, I'm
just that's how many times you been in New York twice?
That's that explained.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
I'm just gonna put it out there, right, let's just
mean and it says it's it's for most people, it
is New York. I mean, Miami is not even on here.
But the other cities mentioned are London, Paris, and Tokyo.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
So so, so I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
Listen, I'm not rolling London. Peter is probably fucking pissed
right now, but Peter ain't. Yeah, yeah, so But anyways, anyways,
I don't think most people have Miami as a thing.
I think I think as a collective. If you ask,
most people in New York is up there. So but
my back to the original argument, that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Toronto I have over Atlanta, and it's not It's not
even the question a question for me.

Speaker 5 (01:58:44):
That's what I'm saying to He's probably never been not
rolling with that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
Why that's what it is?

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
No, no, no, I'm not rolling with Cam on Atlantic Ship.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
Remember camp pick Memphis over Toronto in America. We can't
take cam wow this We talked about Memphis and I
love Memphis.

Speaker 5 (01:59:02):
About Chicago, I funk with Chicago. Chicago's up there for
me to m I might.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
I like Chicago food. I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:59:13):
I don't. I don't feel safe Memphis. You feel you'll
feel in New York too?

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
Yes, yeah, I feel murder capital.

Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
Remember of the.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
States.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Hey, remember Charlie said chest up walking around anywhere New York.

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
You're talking about Chicago. I'm in the vehicle. I am
not getting that's only like one part, oh block, No, yeah,
it's not one part.

Speaker 5 (01:59:43):
It's a decent amount of Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
On the weekend. They have the fucking how many murders
in one weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:59:51):
I'm speaking to about. He says Chicago is even reckless
for anybody, so reckless, reckless for anybody.

Speaker 5 (01:59:58):
It's a hot city.

Speaker 4 (02:00:00):
But anyways, with Chicago, respect Chicago.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
Camp.

Speaker 3 (02:00:04):
So you're picking Atlanta, Memphis over Toronto, right, just so
the people know, No, I remember I just said was
wild about the memphiship. I said that. I just said that.
But you're picking that, you're picking up Remember like he
likes black woman. That was hilarious. Black clip is still
New York dirty, New York dirty as fuck. Okay, I'm sorry,

(02:00:24):
Yeah that was nobody.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
That York is dirty.

Speaker 3 (02:00:31):
I get shot up. The New York is very dirty,
dirty and that any last words before we got who?

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
We got games?

Speaker 4 (02:00:39):
Who win the game one?

Speaker 5 (02:00:40):
Okay, see.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
Time out Indiana it's not easy and yeah easy, I
got Indiana when it's thirty plus Charlie messaging.

Speaker 4 (02:00:50):
Remember when I tell you, when I tell you this,
they're going to split one one. Remember that. Put a hunch.

Speaker 5 (02:00:57):
They're gonna split one one.

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
Put a hunch.

Speaker 4 (02:01:02):
You gotta take that one, hug, put a hunch. Hello,
we cann end the show right now with this and
with the hair. Come on screen, Peter, Why Peter? Too long?

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (02:01:22):
Chat?

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
What do y'all think I should do? What y'all think
I should do?

Speaker 4 (02:01:26):
Chat?

Speaker 5 (02:01:26):
What y'all think I should do?

Speaker 4 (02:01:28):
All right? All right? What one one? They?

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
So?

Speaker 5 (02:01:33):
If it's two old pacers are still win the bat?

Speaker 4 (02:01:35):
No, you're basically saying one one. You're basically saying that
Indiana is not gonna win one.

Speaker 5 (02:01:44):
I did stand on business guys, I said, can you huh.

Speaker 4 (02:01:55):
Hunge? All right?

Speaker 5 (02:01:56):
Let's do it last thing before we do real, for real,
for real.

Speaker 4 (02:02:01):
Yoh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
By the way, y'all saw POD's comments. We don't talk
about long. He said he wants to be Olympia All Star.

Speaker 1 (02:02:08):
I kind of made we're not in in this show.

Speaker 4 (02:02:11):
Talking about.

Speaker 5 (02:02:15):
Thank you, y'all maybe made me sick. It made me sick.

Speaker 4 (02:02:20):
I just know.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
It made me sick. All right, y'all, We'll see you
guys on Monday. Ray probably gonna be back in the building.
Maybe we can get tied off on. Everybody asked for
you Ralph to join us.

Speaker 4 (02:02:33):
Hey, everyone tell you that much, y'all. Y'all tune in.
Hey the chat. Do y'all think we should stream during
the game or no, y'all hit us the check.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
Let me know the chat will be talk and so
they don't see we'll ast him next time. But Jack,
as soon as we doing something after the game, Yeah,
you're probably gonna do something. If Charlie you free after
the game, Yeah all right, cool, you will see us
after the game.

Speaker 2 (02:02:59):
If I want my hunch to the Pacers, you already
know what's gonna happen. Ship if the Pacers, when that
means I'm gonna over a hundred too.

Speaker 4 (02:03:07):
Mostly that means you owe me a hundred off rip
and I'm talking ship. All right.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
We gonna see you guys at well, what time is
the game today is at seven thirty Central Time, so
we probably gonna see you guys around ten. Can may
not be with us, but we'll see you around ten.
I'm being class y'all. Appreciate you all time, Yes, sir,
peace piece, all right