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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Cook for a mile.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome back to the Baja. I
first got to welcome back the boy, mister Raymond Felton.
What's up, Bro?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
You back in the building. Baby, I'm good. I'm great.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're glad to have you back. And then we got
feel on the building. He late, that's why we start
our show late. Hes gonna get pink slip, pink slip.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's fine, that's you the yeah, the kids pulling, I
get it.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
That's all good.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
He's he's a human bros.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
He ain't getting pink slip. I'm just messing around.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Peter.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I need I need. I need the shots right now.
I need the horns. I need the music.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I need the music.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Peter, We're got a whole favor in the buildings.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Want me to go here on that star me? You
wanna come support me in.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
The sixteen Sunday?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
And I talked to the higher up.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
We gotta figure that out.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
We can get a flight out there. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's why I had to get the intro the sixteenth,
November sixty It is a Sundays from here Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, man, congratulations, Bro, that's why hand intro. That's being man.
Congratulations there you know, a little surprised, a little surprise. Joy.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I need some more horns, Peter, I need.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Some more horn That's.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, like that dr on the on the Monday. Why not.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
We'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Peter and Peter. You wanted today, Peter, what you do?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
This guy?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Said price Line. Kirk got the budget, Bro Kirk got
the budget. Broy Man, congrats the field brows.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
It feels good. I actually saw got the news after
our stream yesterday. That yeah, so it was cool that
that's love love. Congratulations man, man, that's I.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Mean even it's not that you're staffed in your country, bro.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah, that's why I'm laying down my roots over there
and you know, building a house over there, man and
making their home adventures.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
What in terms of like making to the NBA, what
are you like the fifth? Because I know friends or second?

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Third?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
So I'm the first ever to go lottery.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
First to go lottery, I know, yeah, just making the league.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
But I am the third Friends, Francisco is my year.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Also you have the same year.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
But the guys are in front of me Lou Floores,
I don't know that name, Bell and uh Philippe Lopez.
But then our Harper's Dade.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's what I say.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Harfer's dad was the first one to ever get drafted.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Hey, man, show out to you, bro people, don't You
don't understand how monumental that is, especially.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
For all your people's famous. That's tough.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's big time that man. Appreciate that guy.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You know, we can't really to the wife. I appreciate you,
baby girl, So big ups on that. But we got
we got some controversy already. We started to show a
little controversy for sure. Peter pull up the graphic with Peter.
Wait on that, wait on that, talk about it.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
We're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
We don't talk about it.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Peter pull up Kyrie Kyrie clip. Kyrie's had a schedule.
Let's not the list.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
But yes, that's all good looking good. He's ahead of schedule, schedule.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
You've seen, Hey, Dallas, we didn't could about how safety.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Tickets look at that. We know I'm talking I ain't
touching on a real either, any touching on.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
So let me ask you guys, this what the term.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I need? He wasn't a superstarre I need him shoes?
I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Let me ask you, guys, what determines when you're ready?
Because obviously I know like you can obviously walk and
through a little bit, but how are you guys determining
if you're ready?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
If you can go up and down and play five
on five you're not thinking.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
But then even a lot of times people are playing
five on five for a month getting ready, like you know,
help the help viewers understand I feel.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I mean, Ray, you had that ankle injury. Talk about
like when did you feel like you was when I
can trust it again? When I got out of my
head about it, because even when I first got back,
I still was scared to like cut move, really just
put that type of pressure on that ankle. But once
it went away, like it's over, like it's back to normal.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
So it's just that thing there.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
You your body. Your body will tell you when you're ready.
And the thing is, sometimes you get so like anxious
to want to be out there on the court. But
if your body is telling you, you have to listen
to your body. I know that's one of the hardest
things to do, but your body is always gonna win,
so you have to listen to it.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
How listen the maps are scary if he gets back.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
I think you gotta play. I think it takes a game,
though I feel like a game. Well, actually, the thing
is the NBA is different because all you're doing is
open so you're playing five on five for like.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
A week, two weeks for you get back out. Well,
that's the thing. The one thing about Kyrie, the way
he plays like, he's gonna have to test it in practice.
You're gonna have to test it playing one on one
because he's so shifty, the way he moves. He got
to make sure that it's right before he actually goes
into a real game. He stops on the dime stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Honest though it's exciting, but first of all, he ain't
rushing you know, he won't rush it all.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
And the second thing is.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
You really get excited when when if you see a
video of him really working out, like moving he going,
that's when he close. That's when he's like, Okay, I'm
really testing to see what this motherfucker can do. And
it's really the biggest thing about injuries. It ain't even
when you working out, it's after how that motherfucker feel
after you Like.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
All he doing right now is working on that. That
the shot. Must memory come back better than what it was.
You know what I'm saying right now, he just focusing
in on that and then once he gets like you know,
saying he get to that, that will go, or.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Even trying to be the explosive right putting all that
weight on that one or whatnot.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know, I can't wait to see a left handed
game win flo again.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
So I was there, you guys, I was there.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Nah, I wanted to. I was in the building that was.
Charlie used to always be there whenever tell me.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
So let me ask you guys this.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
See him over there on the floor, like we didn't
run into each other one yeah, I like you were
sitting in front of me one time. I was like Charlie,
he was like right, Ray, I was like, dang, yeah, yo,
Look he's on payroll, bro. Him as the right people
him a tyson on payroll payroll right, people didn't tested people.

(07:29):
You know, we were we were talking about it.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Are you going to the game on the nineteenth that
boys commanders here?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Oh one thousand?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah? I think I think I don't give a fun I.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Ain't gonna say who, but someone else is pulling up,
So you guys.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Should do a little team. Yeah, I'll be in the building.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Why not want Why not to the box?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I just got I just got some still sweet week
from Chalk. They just hit me about talk about it.
I told him. I told him, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Huh beef.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
No, No, I'll talk talk to you offline. Off there's to.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Be back though. No, this is all Yeah, he'll be back.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, all right, So anyways, moving on for the anybody
got anything else on car?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
He looks good. It's exciting.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Actually, I had a question. If he returns early, does
that help the chances or it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
He has to return when he's healthy.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
No, I'm talking about if he's healthy, returns ihead a schedule.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Does that health the chances? Hell yeah?

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Build that chemistry get real way more toxic it could get.
They don't want to see that. Can think about it.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
But a.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Starting line up with Kyrie Klay Thompson, who's three Coo cool,
Ad and Lively or Gafford.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
I mean that's probably why Houston wants a too big lineup.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
You can suck around.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Go d Lokay, honestly, Delko.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Off the bench. I like to shoot. He's no I'm
not saying start. I'm not saying to start.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
I'm saying, like, if put that put that line up
out there, a couple of men they like. I said,
the scariest teams are the teams that can play multiple ways.
Dallas can play whatever fucking way they want to play.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
PJ. Washington.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
If Houston want to play that too big line up,
guess what we got too, Bigs. It's better than y'all, bigs.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
What do you guys, It's gonna be scared if you
have what four people that can put the ball on
the floor with Coop.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
D Look, listen, that's gonna be a problem. Everybody can
put the ball on the bit. They got us, they deep,
they are still got Naji Marshall. That's what I'm saying.
Forget about that, y'all. Forget about these dudes. Nae Marshall
is to do. I feel like should start. Nazi Marshall
got PJ.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Because they got Anthony Davis, Dante, some Cooper Flag, Daniel
gafferd Jaden Hardy, Uh, Kyrie Lively, Marshall, Caleb Martin, the
White Pale, the Angelo, Russell Klay Thompson. He said he
will Ad said he wants to play the four and

(10:15):
Brandon Williams was hooping land. So who you starting Gafford
and Lively?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm probably starting Lively.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I started Lively. You just payd Gaffer.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I feel gafferd could do a little bit more off
the bench, a little bit more versatile.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
No, because I think Lively too is still young, and
he gets into early foul trouble that I rather gaff
for get those two early ones than Lively.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
You better let Gaffer get.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
But he's saying because Lively is inexperience.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I'm saying because he picks early fouls.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Like, I'll be like, because you gotta think Gaffer is
gonna be going against thee what you're saying, Yeah, Like,
I'll let you bang with them, and then I'm gonna
bring young fella in and let him do his thing.
I like it either way, no problem either way to Shoogar.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
That it's gonna be good. So we gave Charlie's flowers.
We gotta somewhat, you know, take those back a little bit. Peter,
you want to roll the clip?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Damn yo rolling right now?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Oh man, down baby, man, damn, what the hell? Wife?
He is dying?

Speaker 7 (11:22):
Whoa snipers? Oh, I can't say that. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
People were having to Dallas today. We happen today, Bro,
Sniper no for real? Yeah? Yeah no mo, Bro, That's
why I said it. You know, I would have never
say that if I knew that.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
For real sniper du the ice facility. Oh, I did
see that, yo, by I thirty five something like that.
Three people people? Yeah, was wild and Bro.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
We need to we can't close these windows. Niggas, niggas
that hit sniper.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Man, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, man, show damn.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Come to realize one of my chairs had a missing
screw damn, And I moved that thing.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
And you know whose idea was right though? It was
Peter's idea.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's all right, I got something for Pete.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You got something for Peter.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
You know, I'm never you know, it's you know, I'm human.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Maybe it happens, man, that was crazy, fell down in
slow motion. But let's let's let's let's talk. Let's talk
about something else though, you know what I'm saying, since
y'all would like to So y'all like to have fun
and ship when I go out of town and ship.
I was to the.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Baja on the lake.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
It was a good time.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
It was a great time.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Time. We had a great time, a great time. Can
we talk about that, Peter clip.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Peter, I know, I know, laws and chatter, Lawla and
Charlie care of the whole squad.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Took care of the whole squad. It was fun. We
had good times. Right, that's the water I just deal
spilled ranch all in the house all damn A gentleman
trying to be a gentleman.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Backfire, back, fucking ranch one in the bag completely. It was.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
It was a ship show, it was. We had a
good time.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Though.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Get the car I heard I heard the last time
these boys coming over. Yeah, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding,
we said to.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Arbetration A cool next topic, Peter pulled up the image
about Doc Rivers in Austin. Please, it's crazy, all right,
keep it, keep it short. Doc Rivers paid Austin his money,
and I don't think anybody's mad because they do the
same for their son.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I think that's I think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
That's fair. Like you don't take care of your own
like it is what it is. But Bat Barnes just
basically said that he was making more than a lot
of guys in the locker room, like Jamal JJ himself.
This was the downfall of city. What are your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Kicking the ray?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
First, he was there, talk to us. You were there
for some of it.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I was there for see what what's the locker room?
What's their tension?

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
It was tension every day. And when you're in a
situation like that is tough because you got your son,
you know, you got to take care of your son.
You got to do right by your son. I just
think when it came to basketball, pay your son whatever.
You can give your son twenty million a year, give
it to him.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I ain't mad at you. If you use my pop ship,
I want you to give me twenty.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
But is it deserving?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
That's another GM got to check off on that too.
That's what exactly.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Both.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
He was both. That's why I say he took care
of his son. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But
at the end of the day, which as the father
you could appreciate. Yeah, which just like I ain't mad
at Doc about that. I'm not mad at Doc period.
I just think in situations DOC could have handled things differently.
When it came to basketball, when it came to playing time,
when it came to you know, lineups and different things

(15:14):
like that. I think that's where the beef came in
at I think that's where the tension came in because
I think Doc there was a lot of pressure on
Doc because he paid him that much money.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
He had to prove why he played it. Yeah. Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Pressure that he had to prove why he paid him
and may put Austin out there on the court, put
him in situations to prove that he deserved his money,
and that kind of messed things up at times. I'm
not even gonna lie me being in there, being in
the locker room, that kind of caused a lot of friction,
you know what I'm saying. So, and I'm gonna leave
it at that. I ain't gonna go no deeper than that.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
That's fair, list, I get it. What are your guys thoughts.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
I respect the fact that he's looking out for his son.
At the same time, you gotta be careful with that
because you who got another fourteen other guys that are
looking like, wait, hold on, wait a minute, what's going
on here? And I didn't even know that he got
paid more than Matt Barnes and JJ, Jamal Crawford.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
JJ was a starter and Jamal Crawford obviously you know
who Jamal Crawford is, six man, you know, and he
had more, he was getting paid at that time more
than him.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, that to me is it's tough.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
It's tough, and I mean that's you show the results
right where in the locker room guys were you know,
there was tension, that was friction that.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Was I feel like it was a lot of tension
towards Austin based off that. There you go, there you go,
based off that. So he dealt with a lot of attitude,
with a lot of like, we ain't fucking with you
type of attitudes based off what happened. And you know,
it was unfortunate for him. It's to be honest and

(16:57):
you gotta be real about it.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Than by the way, Matt was wrong. Jamal was making more.
I'm just looking at it right now.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
But yeah, how much was he making more than JJ?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
So yeah, so I'll give you a slages. Chris is
making twenty three, DeAndre is making twenty one, Lake was
making twenty, Jamal made thirteen, Austin made eleven. JJ made
seven and a half, Wesley made five and a half,
and Paul made three and a half.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Paul Pierce got you. I'm gonna be real over JJ,
who is the starter who cemented his career pretty much.
He was very pivotal in that Clippers team. Yeah, I
don't if you're gonna be the GM and you're gonna
be the coach, there's a responsibility that comes with that,

(17:46):
right giving your Like, what did Austin do at that time?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I think he had a pretty good playoff series where
he was a really good defender. If I remember correctly,
he had a really good showing. That's what I remember.
I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I don't think you just can't. You can pay him,
but not over somebody that you start over. My My
only thing was you paid him, and I think he
had just got waived. And I could be wrong. I
don't know if it was a trade, but I thought
he was with the Pelicans and the Pelicans let him go.
That's I thought he was at the crib. Yeah, so

(18:21):
he paid him while he was well. He came like
like Hong saying, he came in like on a during
the trade time, and he brought him in.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
He had a paid season. There you go.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
He had a good end of the season, good little
playoffs and then booming game eleven million game.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
So you know, Yeah, it was a three team trade,
so he did get traded three team trade, yes, but
I think he was waved off of that team and
the Clippers picked him up, so he got traded from.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
So Daddy saved his career. Is that what I'm hearing?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
He got he got traded from the Pelicans, then he
got waved and then if you want to put it
that way, you can put it that way. Yeah, terrible,
Hey bottom, I'll get Peter back after anyway.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
No, I'm not gonna hold you that. That's wild. That's wild.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Are you really mad at him as a father though?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Or I don't. I'm not mad about him picking him
up at all. You give him eleven ms.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
But when you say are you mad at him as
a father?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
No?

Speaker 5 (19:25):
But this is business, This is a I agree, so
it has nothing to do aspect of it.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
But on the business.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Side, I'm mad at him, That's what I'm saying. Well,
I mean, you had a team that you had a
chance to win it. You had a chance to win it,
so you don't you don't mess with that type of chemistry.
You don't and you all know chemistry is everything. It
ain't all about just having good players. How many years
have the Clippers have good players? You know what I'm saying.
And they started with christ and they was Love City.

(19:53):
It was very good. But if you ain't got the
right chemistry, bro, that shit don't work.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I think when the locker rooms sucked up home, I
think I think the biggest problem for me too is
the biggest problem from Blob City that I always remember
is they didn't have a three, so they tried guys
like Paul Pierce and Bald Mute. They've tried a bunch
of different guys. You could have spend that money on
a better three.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
This is this is my thing. I think.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
The one thing I think we all don't really mind
him getting the eleven. I don't really mind him getting
the eleven. No, I don't mind that. This is where
everyone has a problem. When he's getting the late game
minutes and you got other guys that's just probably more
capable of being in those moments and he ain't producing

(20:36):
up to eleven ms that you gave him. No, no, no,
it doesn't because no one thought he should have got
that in the first place. We know why you did
it because we all probably would have did the same thing. So,
as we talked about before on this show, when somebody
gets paid the most, they typically play, they play the

(20:58):
most minutes.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Correct situation.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
It shouldn't be like that because we know why you
did this. We did that. You did this because this
is your son. That's the only reason you gave him
eleven million dollars. Ain't no way in the world he
should have had eleven million dollars and JJ Reddick has seven.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I mean, to be fair, JJ, sign is deal before.
You gotta like that. That is contention was important important, right,
Come on, doc extendo. I mean his numbers that year
when he signed his contract, when Ray was there, he
averaged twelve three and two on forty four percent, shooting
thirty seven from three, and he played twenty eight minutes
a game. I don't know if that justifies eleven. I

(21:37):
think that's like seven or.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Eight today today, that's twenty five a year.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Yeah, so it might have been eleven then he might
not be bad, but back then, back then.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
But twenty five today was eleven back then.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, But we're just telling you back then that was
that was worthy about what JJ got like seventy years yeah,
probably seven I think seven seven.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Did you feel like when you was on the clip,
they because you talked about that, they put him ahead
of like h as a point guard.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, and I felt like, you know, I'm not looking
at the one. I'm not gonna go all the way
to it where Cep got hurt one time. So everybody
was automatically thinking, like because that was the back of
the point guard. Me, him and Jamal play together off
the bench. I played the point, him and Jamal played
the off guards. That's how he came off the bench.
They didn't put Austin at the point. They put as
at the point over me, and I think that was

(22:28):
a I think that was he started. That's what I'm saying,
so Doc Doc started him to me, it was situations
like that that calls friction. I didn't care because I
came off the bench anyway behind CP, so it didn't
bother me. I knew it was I knew it was

(22:49):
the best thing for me to start because I was
a point guard. I was going to facilitate the ball
to Blake and DeAndre and these guys JJ coming off
these screens. I was I was the best fit to
do that, of course, but I wasn't tripping because my
role was still the same. Like you know what I'm saying.
But you know, other guys didn't see it that way,
and that's all I'm gonna say. Other guys didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
You said a very keyword, right, and this is so
off topic, but you said facilitate.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
That was your mindset.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Do point guard to say you even think about facilitating nowadays?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Think about it.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I'm like, listen, I had a small high school career.
My only job was to facilitate racist facility.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I swear.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Slide basketball. Who facilitated what?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
When I played basketball? Yeah, you had. I couldn't shoot,
but I was put the footage out. I was a
boxing one defender. I pustled my ass off. I was
all hard. But anyways, really it was all hard.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
We need to see that I was all hard. Basically,
when somebody says I'm all heart, we are getting this footage.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Footage, but there's like pictures with me on the basketball
team and.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
So Peter, my team was working on it.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Peter.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Anyways, guys, that's not the point. You even talk about
facilitating Now.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I think so. I mean, you still even as
a point guard, you still got other guys who scores
on your squad. So you got to get him the rock,
you know what I'm saying. Like, as much as Luca
loves to score the ball, he has to pass the ball.
He has to There's no way, you know what I'm saying.
Curry and Dame sucked it up. I agree.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Everyone question Who's who's a Who's a facilitator in today's game?
Not the older cat, not not the Kyrie, not the staffs,
like the.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
New new NBA John mad who the facilitator? Halliburn is
the best? Halliburn is the best? Tis who Jones? Yeah?
But Halliburton to me, Halliburton is the best, the best
passer facilitator to me after that is yeah, but when

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I watched John play, John's job passes the ball, you
score two.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
But joints of Damer, I feel like trading y'all have
to score first though.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
That's my opinion. Trade doms, let me trade, let me,
let me, let me let me change that for you.
Trade and Joah has to score with the type of
teams to score. You know what I'm saying they don't score,
that's some points that they miss it.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
And the thing.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Is too is like we I don't I don't know
how to say. We like the way the NBA is gone.
We kind of made it where being a facilitator isn't
attractive anymore because then because every know, a lot of
people have a problem with it, because at the end
of the day, people be like, Okay, he can see

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the floor really well.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Can't he shoot?

Speaker 5 (25:52):
That's what they say every time? Then he shoot. But
the problem is, though, the problem is though, it's the
truth because now days, if you can't shoot, the way
defenses has involved involved they.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Not fucking guarding you. But no matter how good you
could pass.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
So let's strow Steve Nash in this era, he's gonna
be go and cooking, but he's gonna facilitate first.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
But he could Steve could shoot. That's the point. You're
not talking about THEO say you have to shoot.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Do we even have a place like if you are
Steve Nach, are you gonna be a team's gonna like
build a whole team around you because you're facilitate first.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
The only team that could get away with that is
a team like Golden State. If you had if if
you was on a team that had a K d
uh Steph Clay, if I had a team like that,
I wouldn't have to shoot if I was a facilitator
because yeah, yeah, but I wouldn't have to that much
because these dudes, I got three of them, Like, I'm
gonna cast have it. If I could get to the

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rim and make a layup, You're gonna have to honor that.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
I'll be willing to say this, though, I don't even
know if that's true, because if you're a point guard
you go to go to State, you probably a't gonna
play either, you know what, because.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Point guard, you know, you can't have two of them.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
Mother.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
There's a perfect example. I think if Lonzo Ball was
drafted in two thousand and six, his whole career looks different.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, nah, he'll be fine. He just got hurt.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I'm talking about I think he's a star in two
thousand and six versus he's just more of a star.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
He was on the way of being a star. That's
gonna be what he got hurt. Watch out big he
gonna be this year for Cleveland. Watch out big he
is this year for Cleveland. I think he will. He will.
I hope he do.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Just gotta stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
All right, Well we got he's an issue. Mister Anthony
Edwards here, do you want to run their audio clib.

Speaker 9 (27:43):
I've been told this offseason Anthony Edwards number one focus
a new area of development, and that's the post up game,
the mid post, the high post, low post, establishing a
mid range game, and the fadeaway shot from the post
a lah Michael Jordan and Kobe. I'm told he's been
watching a lot of tape of Kobe and MJ, studying

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their game and how they were able to get the
shot off from the post up game, and MNA saying
Minnesota believes this part of his game potentially will become
a go to element, especially as games stagnate down the
stretch gets slower, particularly come playoff time. So Anthony Edwards
has understood he needs to take the next step in
his game if this team is going to take the

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next step, and that's why he's been in that Minnesota
Timberlves facility since June. But that mid range shot, that
post up game, that fade away from the post, like
MJ and Kobe, that could very well be a big
part of his repertoire this season.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
How do you feel about that evolution of Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
The fact that he's in the lab putting, working on
his craft is a positive sign for Minnesota. But I
will say this too, Like to me, when you see
Anthony Abodes, who kind of reminds you of MJ. Bro
the way he moves right, the body language and if
you think about it, if you're trying to mimic MJ

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and Kobe, Kobe is a mirror image of MJ.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Hands down.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
So now, if that's who the two guys is that
you're trying to, like, you on your way. It's scary, Bro,
It's scary. He's on his way here.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I mean, I always thought that he was going to
be next up face of the league. To me, I
thought he was next up and he is. To hear this,
to see that he's watching film on those two guys shit,
and he's trying to elevate his game. The fact that
he's already a freaking superstar, one of the top ten

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players in this league, hands down, yep. And for him
to like just concentrate on his craft watching film and
that's the biggest thing I heard. You don't hear these
guys watching film. No more, he's watching film on guys
who who did it, who understood how to perfect their craft.
Kobe and MJ affected their craft. Those two guys perfected

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this game. So for him to be able to just
watch film on them and really lock in like that,
I'm very interesting and intrigued to see him come out
this season. I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Think.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
The biggest thing for me is just like if you
think about all the greats, right, they start every all
their careers start the same way. Right, you got the
ball in your hands, you at the top of the key,
you run a pick and roll, you're shooting threes. You're
the focal point. The defense is right in front of you. Right,
The next step is always the post up. The next

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step is back to the basket. The next step is
the mid range. The next step is the face up game.
Because the playoffs is so taxing, you gotta find ways
to get easy ones. Right.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
If you think about Anthony Edwards all playoffs last year,
it's all threes and he going straight to the basket,
going through people, jumping all that. By the end, by
the uh, what's conference finals, you got exhausted cooked, So
That's why the Kd's, the Lebron's, the MJ's, the Kobe's,
what are they doing in the playoffs? Then that post

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and they working because then they could take their time.
They can be like, all right, wait, just wait till
I get down there and then I'll do the rest,
you know what I'm saying. And you don't have to
when you go for it's not that far. But when
you go from three point line drive to the basket,
making plays for others and stuff like that, that's.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
A lot of energy.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
When you at the end of the game and you're tired,
you're gonna shoot a three before you drive to the basket.
Me a ring shot is a lot easier than to
pull up three. You can create more habit, You got
more eyes when you're in the post and you posting
up and you got the big hit, the big already
has to be over damn near because Anthony Ever's in
the post with somebody. That's one dribble, that's explosion. He

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on that rim, you know what I'm saying. So it
creates a lot of problems and it just gives another
threat to the timberwol that uh, they never had what
they have now, but with just Julius, but having it
with Anthony Edwards too, it's gonna be a lot more dangerous.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I was just gonna ask that question, that question, that
question from yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, what's the number one thing I think post up
game is it?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
That's number one thing that needs to improve. Just keep improving,
Just keep improving. I think, keep keep working on this
ball handler, which is I think it's good. You know,
I would like for it to be great post up
game for sure. Mid range game for sure, because his
whole career, all that jumping and flying in the air
is great. Don't get me wrong. But even Vince Carter,

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those guys created mid range games. He has to he
has to create that mid range.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I would also say, I think his shot, his shot.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Selection, but that all that all that, No, No, it's
all that happens now because you got to what I'm
saying before was like shots select action. When you're tired
and your shoot you like you just gonna jack up
a three. When you're in that post. You got time,
you can get your get your energy level going, make

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a move. All I say is smarter, not work smarter,
not harder. This works smarter if you can just Okay,
I'm a little winded right now, but I know I
got this post game, and I can.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Go to name every player that went to win a
championship after Steph's the only one that doesn't have a
post game. Everybody else does. But working for that, getting
that position in the paint where you want it at
fifteen feet, that's work too.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Is it not?

Speaker 6 (33:33):
No?

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Not, all the time depends on how you get it.
You can't touch nobody nowadays.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
That's true. Yeah, because I'm just thinking, like.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
You can literally walk down there like this.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
So he gonna let's just say this, he's gonna have
to see lou door on that block. That's a battle
itself though.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
That's that's where you can run different actions. You can
run wedge for fucking it's a battle. But he ain't
got to like, he don't got to fight him. Just
get to the spot. You know, he ain't got to
be down there trying to post him up and fight. No,
he ain't got to. He can face him up. He's
just trying to get to that mid range. It's just

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all about where he where he's trying to get to.
He ain't trying to just bang him and post him up.
Because that's just gonna kill him. Let's tie him out,
especially lo Do just get in to his his spot.
That's all he needs to work. It just brings way
more threats to Minnesota because at the end of the day,
if you put him, let's say you run a web screen.
Web screen, you got a guy the block and he's

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sitting at the top of the key. You go set
a screen for him to get into the post. Lou
Door could be physical all he want, right, he could
be on his hip if he curl that screen, he
could catch it on the go, get to the rim.
If lou Door want to cheat it, he could just
pop back shoot the three. If you run across screen
from on the base line, you do whatever the hell
you want to do, and he can eat.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I think it's cut game. What's wrong with that? Hear
what he's talking about? What's wrong with it? It's crazy he's.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Out there dropping seas a lot of kids.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
It was more than that one. I don't know, doesn't
he have to?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
I think one thought it was one. That's all I
heard of.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Hey, by the way, where do you guys think this
elevates him? If you can add a post up game?
Is he going to be a top five player this year.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Is ain't gonna be a top five player. Would be
the most complete player in the league. Absolutely, talk about that.
Even a question who's more completely end wrong, You're wrong
because he plays on the other end.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
That's what I'm saying. He would be the most complete
player on the league.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, Johannest don't have, Yeah, you have is one.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Of the top five players.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
He's still complete player. I don't think there is a
more complete player than him. If he has a post
up game slash media.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
You want to be honest the real and people don't
give the most complete game complete player is to me,
it's both of those guys in Boston.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Oh yeah, complete.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Says he's already top five. You guys agree with that.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody listening in the top five before
use your number one shooting guard right now, number one.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Everybody shooting guard I put at the point is a
point STEPH shooting guard.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
He puts stuff at the shooting guard. But I put
an over steph at this point in their career.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, I think at this point.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, I mean, did you guys have him?

Speaker 3 (36:29):
It's coming, He's coming, bro.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
He still put him in front of stuff yet.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Sorry, No, that's fine, that's fine. But you guys have
him over Luca yet who No, that's the thing. So
I think Jokers number one for everybody here, but luka
a tow no, we're just talking about top five.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Oh, top five.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
I think number one, American American's.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
American one, Jokers One's two, Jannis three, and then it's
like Luca and Steph Brown, whoever else.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
You want to kind of throw in that category. And
if we're talking about that's that's let's take Let's take Lebron,
Let's take Steph and KT out. Just take those three
guys out. Like we know, we know those guys at
the at the peak, at the end of their career.
They're still playing, so you got to give them homage.
As long as they're in there the top. That's what

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it is. Respect, that's what it is. Take them out.
Is he top five?

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I agree, I take those three guys out. He's top five.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I mean if it beats healthy, I haven't beat over
at Oh yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I'm just saying that. So he might be number five
and I will go down swinging with him. Be if
he's healthy.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yea, mother, he five for me.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
But the problem if he's when you say, if he's healthy,
has he ever been healthy?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Do you stop?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Stop this, bro?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I'm not even entertaining that.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
When he won the m v P, was he not
healthy healthy?

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Relax?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Break break is.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Because you're gonna get fifty games from a mate. But
he the year before he played a lot of games.
He just wanted to play a lot last year.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
His knee was cooked last year because he played the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Your man so recentcy Bias. The man played and he
was having seizures, Bro, and he was going fifty when
his eyes didn't even work.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I was just asking a question, what did you call that?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
What did they call that that he have? Because I
said caesars? But it wasn't you remember his bucked out yea, oh,
it was just rolled back.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
I just said something. I just talked about something that right.
He looked good too, did y'all see it?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
He had a concussion. He was playing concussion entire time
he was That's what they said.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
The man had fifty and he's a problem. What are
you gonna have if he don't have a concussion, Simpy,
He's never healthy.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
I mean, he was healthy for his MVP let me.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Ask you this, why do we not give j T
and Jalen Brown enough credit? Yeah? What will j T?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
He might not be in top five if JT's healthy.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
J T, I don't think he can't crack that top five.
I mean in complete player.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
That was my question. J T and j B are
the most complete.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
He's been doing too long. No, it's not that we
were so used to j T's greatness. He's been doing this.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
He's great, and he still don't give respect. He should.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
J T a superstar, superstar.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Stop it.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I was just a you know, I'm just asking question.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
You know he's a superstar. You don't think it was quiet.
I just said they two of the most complete players
in the league that I think Jaylen browns is are
super in.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Terms of play. He's a superstar. But I don't think
people are really I don't know.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
I don't see a lot of er don't know. Jaylen
Brown is an all star. He's not a superstar.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Like we talked about the persona, right, Jason Tatum doesn't
have the same persona as an aunt, as a like
a Mike.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Jayson Tatum is a superstar.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
He just feels very like bland as like a personality.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
When you say Bosston Celtics, who you think of Jason
Tatum is killing Larry Bird?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I think I think I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Jason Tatum is a killer? You think of Jason you
so recently by Jason Tatum for sure?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Okay, so so so so back to the question is
and top five I'm probably putting j t.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Over him wild.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
You know, do that you got you got it?

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Whoa wait wait wait that's not right though, low key
it hasn't done enough yet.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, like he's listen, I'm with Yoker as Joker Joker
s g A, Giannis and Bead if he's healthy.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
And then Tatum.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
How many first teams has he had?

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Jason Tatum?

Speaker 5 (40:29):
Mom?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Check right now, he's had like five first maybe four
or five first teams? What let's say, huh, how many
has he has?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
He has four first teams, four in a row.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Pretty much five, right, it might have one.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I mean That's what I'm saying though, like, like I've
been said this before, like why don't people respect Jason Tatum.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
It's just not it's not it's not second.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I don't have one. He got two second teams listen.
It really just came on the scene two years ago.
Let's be let's but let's be honest with this. Though.
If Ant was in the East, he's on first team
every year he played. Yeah, yeah, a fact, listen first
but he's not. I know he's not. I'm just empathetical.

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But what I'm saying is and would never be on
the first team as long as lucas long as the
whole league.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
I think I think it's first team this year. It's
it's the whole It should be first team this year.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
It should be it should be first team j film
this year. But what what they based it on. They
based on wins, based on you know.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Who votes for that media? Who makes that?

Speaker 1 (41:49):
The problem is now Jannis them three, them three right there,
them three right there that Burton put up every year
every year, first team. They're unanimous. First he was every
year a lot every year the last two of then Luca,
then Luca. Now he with the Lakers first team, and

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he's long longas.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
He stayed healthy and and peaked this and he stayed
peaked this, don't let Jaylen Bronson and the be number one.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
And guys answered, do you have Luc over?

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I have Luca.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Do you have Luke Overt?

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yes? Yes, so then.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
He's not top five?

Speaker 3 (42:28):
How is he not?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Because Giannis Joker s Luca and everybody says j TS
was over him until you got injured. He's not tall
five right now?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Well he is right now because j T is out.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yes, we're talking about like if we were just talking
about last year, I guess top five.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
All right, yeah, he was flowing title is not a
lot first team? Bro, what you mean he said?

Speaker 5 (42:54):
No, he said Tatum is a lot. The first team.
He's not a lot. He's not on the Giannis s
g a yoker.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
But he has been right for the past four years.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Okay you might have.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Are we talking about.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
They've been winning. Yeah, they've been winning.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
You got a fucking point the nigga averaging like twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
No, No, he's a fucking problem. Like he's a bonafide star,
superstar whatever you want to call him to me, he's
up there with.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
I'm telling you it's just not sexy's he's up there.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
With him telling you right now, do not let not
come on me over there on one the drug taver there,
we're saying.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
If jaylen Brest have a good year the first team.
All right, so let me ask you guys up market crazy,
who would you rather see on the island? And or
j T?

Speaker 3 (43:49):
What I mean? I'm not one of that one on
one year?

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I show wh would you rather see?

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Rather see? J T? W j T?

Speaker 5 (43:55):
I don't want you don't want neither one of them? No,
because I feel like a super athletic bro. You don't
see how you dunk on these catchs. Tatum got some
ship with him too, But.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Dude, but not that. Who's more athletic Jason Tatum? An exactly?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
But Jason Tatum is still athletic though?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
But what j Who did j T? Do the little
sorry do the post up in Detroit against.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
But that's what But that's why we're good anyway, because
they got take fouls?

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Who do you whould you rather see? I don't give
a fun all right? Tell him again THEO I'm.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
A grown ass man.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Well this guy I said he don't want to see
Kyrito You right.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
I'm really about that? What happened to the grown ass man?
I got kids?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Broom?

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Wait wait a minute, wait a minute, that's you home?
Which one is you?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Bottom bottle? Right?

Speaker 5 (44:52):
You look tall and look gangst hold on, that's you.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
If you guys want to like the Jeames that Steven
I was working Number thirteen.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
We went to he Got the short Cut?

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Everybody?

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah as well.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I grew up in the hood and then I moved
to like a nice places.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I was one of them who was making fun of
you know.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
This is when I was like sixteen.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Okay, I was like who why did?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
I was like what they don't have making funny like.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
That at sixteen.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
This was like when I was like twelve, Okay, I
got in too much trouble on.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
The got the short He got the short cut here,
that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, so that was okay, Number would I was number thirteen.
We got second placed. You would have Friday for sure.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
You are fucking Let's talk about broy conversation.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Anyone went to like uh like went to.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Like one of my boys went to uh no, he
went to D two. It became a D one school.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
That's about it.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
One of us. Yeah, they moved up and moved up.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
That that's league so cool.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Anyways, all right, hung pink, you said that you guys
said you won't to see the footage.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
We pulled the footage. We won't see the pictures. I
want sail.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
We will see video. Google Google Google, Sean Doogle, Sean Doogle.
If you out there, we need some footage of houng
Man the clip.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
I'll pay for it.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Nobody take games back, Bro, I'll play in Canada.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
You know you're younger. You're younger than me and Charlie. Yeah, stop,
I got film.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
You're an all American bro. I was all fucking what
five six and under?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Bro? Five seven and under?

Speaker 3 (46:50):
You say you were facilitated.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I was. I was level. Yeah. The different.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
That I'm not that no one's saying.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Was that right? Listen? I just love too? Does it go?

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Hey man?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
You a hard time man?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
You know that you ye? Hey man, Peter, pull up
the image, Bro, pull the image. No, we don't have
an image.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
How to make this?

Speaker 2 (47:16):
I actually didn't know. So Basically JT after her tore
his achilles, basically.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Thought he'd be traded, he lose all his partners with
your sponsorships, his prime would be ripped away from him.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
That's a lot to think, obviously, you know, I think
he said he cried it for two hours after a
lot going on. You're in the middle of a playoff run.
We've heard a lot of different athletes feel that same
way as well.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
To mention he was frying, he was they're about to
lose that serious like forty something, they're about to lose
that series.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Can't even definitely say that though it.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Was about to be three one New York.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Let's keep that a stat It's fair for him.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
To feel that way because, I mean, he's never experienced
this before. So when you feel that pop and you
go down, you know, it's you know, that road ahead of.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
You is gonna be long.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
So it's fair to think negative at that time because
we just had a negative situation happen and it's like, fuck,
my road ahead is gonna be crazy. So it's fair
and even though I mean, he's not gonna lose his sponsorship,
that's where you have contracts, right, But it's fair for

(48:23):
him to start going down that road, that negative road,
because it's hard, because that road ahead is gonna be tough, man,
and some people get depressed, you know, some people never
recover from this. So having the right attitude and the
right mental state is very important during this process.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
He says, he's also ahead of schedule from what everybody said,
and he looks good.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
So you gotta you gotta face that ship head on.
And what's the biggest part that you need in moments
like this is the support. If you got the support,
the strong support, like the whole mental stage and all
of that, you will get by it because you know,
you got people there to love on you. You got
people to keep you uplifted, keep that confidence in you

(49:07):
to get up every day, to go do rehab, to go,
train to go, work hard, to get ahead of schedule.
And I think guys like Kyrie and and him understand that,
like and these most of these guys do now, and
all the technology they got now back then today me
and Charlie would have had achilles injury probably been out
two years with the stuff they have. Now, these guys

(49:29):
are head of schedule because they have the machines, the technology,
these doctors that's really studied past injuries, that know what
to do now to speed those recoveries up. And you know,
I think I think that it's just that mental statement
is all about that support. If you got the support,
then you'll get through it.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
And and like you guys said, like back then, you
you have.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
The window, don't.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
He's dead, bro, Just so drop you guys, bro, there's
no way.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
We don't have a clip.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
We we we can't the clip. We don't have the clip.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
I promise.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
We don't recording with this bird view.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
No, we're not recording off that one. It's just.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Recording off.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Do you see the sting. I've seen it happening in Bro.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
We heard a huge ass thump bird just fucking Oh
my god? What the going on today?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
What the bird thought he thought it was open?

Speaker 3 (50:32):
You can't see that very well?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Don't even say it.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
We're done. We're done with that ship. We're done.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
But in your time, if you had a killes injury,
they're writting you as off most likely to like, he'll
never be the same?

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Am I wrong? You know?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
The crazy thing about this?

Speaker 5 (50:52):
I would say this this goes back to the simple
fact that people don't understand we're human. Anybody's regardless of
who you are, You're thinking those things and me like, damn,
what am I gonna do?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Now? What the fuck happens? Now? Where do I go?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Now?

Speaker 5 (51:11):
You just to Tatum has all the fucking money in
the world, and he's still thinking the same thing anybody
would think. So this is just another indication that I
want to tell fans, people who support NBA players all
that shit, they're human. That is a tough injury. The
motherfucker's never been hurt before, you know what I'm saying.

(51:31):
That takes a lot. You never been hurt before, and
your first injury is that, and you and the people
you look up to, KD. Dame, all these people are
just went through it. Come on, bro, that's hard. That's
hard to see and it's hard to go through. So
you can only just just say, look, bro, you're gonna

(51:52):
be fine. And what Ray said, your support system at
that point is huge, and he's blessed to have that.
And like I said, got kids. I was with them
out there and j t CP camp. It's just another
more reason for him to just now he has more
time with his son that he doesn't normally get preparing
for the season and during the season.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Injuries is a mental game, more mental than anything.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
And then if you think about it, like think about
some of the guys that never really recovered from injuries, right,
that was never the same Your d Rose, your t Max,
You're Brandon Roy, you know, so you have to think
like when you're a superstar and you're like you have
an injury like this, it has to cross your mind
like I'm ever gonna be the same again, right, So yeah, man,

(52:45):
it's a mental challenge. But like Ray and THEO said,
you got to have that support system.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Show out to JT.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Man.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I want to see him back in the corn rows too.
Crazy y'all y'all want to start off the next pissed off?
Or just a little like, how y'all want to start
off the next segment?

Speaker 3 (53:05):
All right, Chris, I'm.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Gonna give you all some names, all right, Paul George, Zion, Williamson,
LaMelo Ball, Zach Levine, the Martin ros and Brandon Ingram.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
What do they all have in common?

Speaker 3 (53:17):
They are all ranked behind Cooper Flag.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
On ESPN's top list.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Wow again, die Bottle cool.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
We have Paul George, Austin Reeves, Zion, Williamson, LaMelo Ball,
Tyler Heroes, Zach Levine, Brandon Ingram, the martyros In all
ranked below Cooper Flag on ESPN's top.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
NBA rankings.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Do we have a name who wrote that?

Speaker 1 (53:44):
No?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
No, it says ESPN insiders.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
So ESPN insiders and look look who they're blow as well.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Though, like some of these players are below. Look who
they're blow as well. So we have the top the
eleven to fifty, Cooper's fifty two or fifty three. I
respect Cooper fifty two, But what I'm saying is that, like,
why is Paul George below Christaps or why.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
I love wow.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Wow? Yeah? This is crazy, bro. Whoever did this?

Speaker 5 (54:13):
They went ahead and put Amen TOMPs in thirty seven,
ahead of Jewel Embeid, ahead of DeMar DeRozan, ahead.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Of various Garland's ahead of them too. Where's Darius He's
thirty eight?

Speaker 3 (54:29):
O G.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
I think Julie should be higher.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Stop stop, stop.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Over, Paul George, what stop man? This ship is out
of control.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Man, investigation insiders. By the way, Lebron's in the top ten,
probably he him eighty one, so Lebron's not there.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
So this is what it comes down to. They knew
this list was stupid, They knew it costs controversy. They
also knew they couldn't put names on it because their
credibility would have winn shot.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
That's fair, shot down. This is absolutely blasphemous. This is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Cooper even ranked fifty two, and he hasn't.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
He hasn't made a bucket yet. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
He hasn't made a bucket, Bro.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
He hasn't played his first game yet. What are we
talking about that, bro? DeMar DeRozan gets so disrespected and
he talked about it too.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Why it's in twenty five, Bro, he's one of the
best mid range players we've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
I don't care. Cooper has not.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
He's not even front of He's not in front of
none of those guys that's his name until I see it.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
He is not in front of.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Granted people, once again, all my Dallas fans. I think
Cooper is going to be really good, but he's not
in front of those guys. That's not what we're talking about.
Nothing about his game, but he hasn't played the game already.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
For the For this, I didn't mention this. Drew Holidays
right ninety first holiday, Jewe Holidays right ninety first in
the league.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
That's crazy, Bro.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
You think that's accurate.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
I don't know if it's accurate, but I mean, jew
Holidays in the league forever. Just get this straight. But
he's at the end of his career. Behind Cooper, No, yeah,
behind behind Johnathan. I mean, you can't say Cooper because
Coop shouldn't even be on that list because he's not.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
He's behind Jonathan kaminga.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Who uh, yes, that's crazy. I mean he's at he's disrespect.
They got Derek White twenty six, Derek White top thirty.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Respect there, No, I would be willing to ask there
there you think the top player, top thirty player in
the league.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
He would say, no, there's no way, Bro. He's not
better than Julius.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
He's not better than better Lor marketing.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Marketing is cold. He's better than John.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Home in front of house, Cat, behind Chat and Alper.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
That's terrible.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
You got Cat and John and John.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
I think they downloaded it wrong. I think there was
I think they hit shop on accident.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
They hit Yo in what world is zoo Balk better
than Jewel embiid.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
I'm gonna be honest. Hey, Jaylen Willims j Jay Wait wait, wait,
where do you.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
See he's thirty thirty six?

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Oh wow, you got Jaylen Williams number eleven.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
I think Jay. I think Jay he just came out
of the championship in the league. I think j Doub
will take us set to be top twenty five in
the league this year.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
That's veteran Donovan Anthony Davis, I.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Said, is that really that bad?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
You got Devin Booker below him, Donovant, you got Anthony
Davis below?

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Are y'all kidding me? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (58:22):
But are you gonna say he's not he can't be
top twenty five this year? That's what I say.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
He's top twenty five.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Bro. He dropped forty in the NBA Finals with one
one hand, No, no.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
J doub I'm alone.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I said he could possibly play top twenty five.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I'm gonna leave that alone.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
He just came Winnie book sixteen? Were Jaylen Brown at
probably Oh no, he's nineteen but no, no, no, Jayleen
Williams is friend up? Wait mans, m VP.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Google sheets. Let's let's start adding names to this. I
think Peter said he got already. Okay, cool, I'm doing Peter,
all right, Peter, can you pull up both by chance?
I got the names here. I got the names here.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
What names are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
He got all the names there? Okay, I'm doing. If
who's not about to do this, let's do this quickly.
Let's just let's just pick our one through fifty. Let's
just pick our next, our top fifteen.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Okay, So who's who's the best player?

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Just go under my name and we're gonna do it
as a group.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
It's Kawi Leonard, the eleventh best player in the league.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Or do we have d Book.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
I'm going Kuhi out of this list right here? Yeah,
I'm going Hi.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Hi, all right?

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Kai put Khi there said this list?

Speaker 3 (59:36):
This list?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Why is the list trash?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I don't think so. Hey, look, put da White out.
Put him.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
No, We're just we're just gonna do eleven to to
to maybe twenty. Let's just do the next ten. Who's
after him? Are we putting Anthony Davis twelve?

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Yes, David, I can't even see.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Yes, he's fourteenth. Anthony Davis's twelve, Peter.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Anthony Davis twelve, John Moran is is thirteen.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Devin Book, Devin Booker, Don Devin Booker. You're not gonna
keep disrespecting. I'm disrespecting. Caten's coming, okay, coming, Donovan.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
I think I think I think Jaw's next for me
over Donovans got Donald?

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
You know, man, either one of them?

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Okay, put don put Donn and then John put don
for fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
We're not gonna put in beat up there, fuck it
right and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
And beat I think, and beat sixteen and beat after
that all the at the bottom over there, crazy you
after that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
No, no, no, no, no, yeah no.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Jimmy Butler, John Moran over John, John's on there, John's fifteen,
James Harden, No, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
James Harden up there. Yes, he's up there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Put James Harden in that top twenty James Harden. We've
put James Harden seventeen. Everybody cool that, cool with it?
James Harden seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Just saying that, y'all said no to No.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
I don't think Trey Young is up is there yet?

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Why is he not top twenty?

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Whoa is he?

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Is he above James Harden for you?

Speaker 10 (01:00:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
You put him next?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
But I have Jimmy Butler over him, or Jaylen Brown?
Jaylen Brown too is up there eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Jaylen Brown, Jimmy is up there?

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Now? Hold on, no, no, with Carl Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Towns, let's talk about it now, let's talk about it.
We're talking about the name is cad Cat, Trey Young
cats next, Bam Pascal Cat.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
We have.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Okay Cat's nineteen. Who's going to run out the rest
of our list?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Is it? Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Trey Young, Paolo Cade, Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Going to sant Gooon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Whoa, I'm going with Jimmy. I'm going with Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
No you we didn't put Jimmy. Yetyeah, not going with Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
You're not rolling Jimmy. Well you're you're voted out there,
stue to one.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Why you're not rolling with Jimmy. I like Trey, I'm
really honest. I dont going in front of Jimmy. No,
you feel me, I like saying no, yeah, yet I
don't even have over Bam Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yes, I'm not putting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I'm not even putting Sengine over Pascal either.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Go Jimmy. We're only doing twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Oh yeah, we got Jimmy, so that's all less. I
mean that we could switch some things around, but we're
good with that. Peter appreciate the pick, but that's a
When I saw that list, I was like, damn, we
gotta talking about it. We definitely made a good point.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
They just put like very vague with the ESPN inside.
They're not gonna put a name to it because you
know there was somebody in the back listen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
I love j dub I love what he did this year,
but I'm not putting him in front of these dudes
who had ten years plus of being bona fide players.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
So he's not top twenty. So j was not top twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Yet I think I think he's twenty five this year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
I do know he's still not top twenty, bro, even
after what he did. He did because he did amazing people,
but he's top forty. He was a perfect I mean,
he was the reason why they got Hey, Jayleen browny
Jaylen who's been a better to number two guy than
Jaylen Brown, and nobody gives him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Over him. We had Jayling Brown over.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
We're talking about he put him eleven, but it was
number eleven eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
We already said the list is insane, bro. But I'm saying,
do you not think juw it could be a top
twenty five players.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
I didn't say what he can be.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
I'm saying he's not read now, No he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
But this year he could definitely slify in the top
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
We'll see he definitely can. There's some dudes out there, bro,
there's some dudes we can name twenty five right now.
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I mean, listen, if Paul Dore is healthy. He's in
my top twenty five. Yes, like that's it's as simple
as that for me, my top money.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Why not, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
You saw courts eye when he cooked.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
I haven't seen it recently.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
He was hurt last year, he said, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
He was hurt when he cooked the maps.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
And not then listen and listen, and not the mansion,
and not the missions Stiller, and not the mention the
man was cooking while he was hurt with the Clippers.
He was he was he was cooking while he was
hurt with the Clippers. He played through injuries, and I
think that's why he in the situation is in now
because when he was in LA he was still playing

(01:04:25):
like when he should have been out, he was still hooping.
He had a soldier, he had a he had to
show the surgery that he should have had during season,
but he played through it. And then after seasons O
where he had soldiers shoulder sourdiery.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
It has to be like on the like revenge, he's
your numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Guys, just because he's anybody that's past thirty five, you
just don't put them up there.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
I noticed that you notice that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Yeah, it's just when someone get towards the end of
the thirty five of the Angry O G. No, he's
not an angry o G past thirty five, write them off.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
I live a positive life. Why do you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Listen? We got to enjoy a little bit of lifestyle
this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
It was just beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
But why do you write someone off Suesday past thirty five?
It feels like that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
No, because to me is I'm what have you done
for me lately?

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Kind of guy recency bias? As we said earlier, As.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Long as you that's all we're saying, what had he
done lately?

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
He hasn't play And that's why I said he's he
should be on like a revenge tour, right because at
the end of the day, we kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Like poor George. Nobody were talking about poor poor George
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
That's what we talked about.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
We know he's hell of talented. He's gonna be a
Hall of Famer, He's had an amazing career.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
What I hear you? What are you thinking about? You
don't think he's gonna be a Hall of Famer. No,
he's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yes, he's a Hall of famer.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
He's a famer.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
He's a Hall of famer.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
There's no one hall of famer to an.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
You do have the right to say that, Yeah, right
to say that you have.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
For county.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
He's a Hall of famer, Hall of famer, for sure.
There's there's no offens.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
But let me get the accolades. Get that, I can
be confident, all right, I got you. I mean, listen,
I'm in the reference.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
If Tim Hardaway seniors in the Hall of Fame, Paul
George's that's I'm gonna leave.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
It at that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
But he ad nine time All Star. No disrespect to
Tim Hardaway senior ahead. That was just that was just splectful.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
My fault, my fault. Let me take that back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
That was just spreadful.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
One first team All NBA, five third teams, two first
Team All Defenses to second team All Defenses, Rookie, the
second team All Rookie, NBA Most Improved Player as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
That's that's a resume. That's and he scored. Let me
see how many points he scored.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Poor George is nice, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
He's probably still scored like probably like eighteen thousand points too.
I can double check that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
But I'm ready for this next topic. So I go
with this man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Why p G is washed?

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
No, we skipped five?

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Oh, Zion, we did. That's my fault, all right, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Zion looks good. He looks like he is as skinny
as he was back in high school. I guess we'll say,
shut yours down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
What you get no fun he's talking about, talking about,
don't get on about none of that talking about Yeah
that zip is on backfire right, Pelicans and sentence, Give
you the people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Some context and why are you excited? Give the people
some contexts while you get while you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Get excited because they got a little bread on the line, got.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Some bread on the line. I don't think the Pelicans
is the playoffs team.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
But anyway, they're looking like Lawrence Taylor?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Can we look like l t He do look good
and we can get He says he hasn't feelt felt
this great since college.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I ain't seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Look like he's a revenge tour. Ray been telling us
watch your kick it off, bro kick it off?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Right, he said it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
My man been working, been working, And guess what you
can tell? You know, you know he's All Star this
year as long as he stay healthy. And I think
he will because he got his body right. And uh, Charlie,
they're gonna make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Wow, this guy said those zempics.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Whatever whatever you gotta do to get your whatever you
do gotta do get your body.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
But has he given me a season? A full season?

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
He's about to That's what they're trying to say.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
I want that from I want that from you. Never
wished anything bad. He looked good.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
You haven't seen it yet. You're little nervous. You're not
one bit, Charlie, not one bit. Okay, Zion could be amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
It wouldn't be a different issue. I'm kind of with
him there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
Zion could be amazing team around him. He got playoffs,
so I want to bet he punched on Winby.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I'm gonna give context everybody, now he can put the
camera man, gonna give context. They have been in the
movie an each. Charlie says that it's not the playoffs,
by the way, it's the Spurs will win more games
in the Pelicans. Ray and got the Pelicans winning more
games than the Spurs, so we can talk chat. He
looks good, but y'all acting like there's not year three

(01:09:21):
for Wemby. He about to take off on another level.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
And the dude was with the Monks. He was out doing,
he was doing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
I don't care. He's going to do his thing all headed.
Can we compare like lineup popping again popping? There have
a better team? Know they don't popping there no more?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
I'm sorry, Peter, Can you go on yes? By the way,
By the way, make it very clear that right if
they got to pull something up, it takes some time
to type and find it. So we're gonna give them
a little bit more time give Peter and Kurt when
they need to pull something up, because y'all be like Peter,
Kurt heard the funk right second apologize the starting lineup

(01:10:03):
for both the Spurs projected outline for the Santorial Spurs
this year and the Pelicans.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
But he is right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
There is no more pop in the Spurs and that's
a big piece missing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Coaching, that's not a big piece. Who's a coach for
New Orleans?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Are you gonna say not having the greatest coach of
all time? Arguably?

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Don't you think he don't uh school somebody?

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Who's the coach?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Who is exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
You don't even know? Who's the Pelicans coach you don't
even know you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
I forgot his name.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
How long he's been there? Right for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
He had he's a great coach.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
He's had injured Dean who I'm not saying he's a
back coach.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Did you ever play Willie?

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
I played against him?

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
YOUMD you you know you know why I say the
Pelicans definitely have a better chance because they got a
bunch of guys over there, got something to prove. You
got and Zion is saying the tone you got. You
got Kevan Looting, he just got disrespected. You got Jordan Poole,
who everyone tried to write off. You got de Johntay
Murray who just coming off injury. He still wants to

(01:11:04):
be solidified him. I like him, that's trying to be solidified.
You got Trey Murphy, Murphy wants to be Trey Murphy.
Come on, he averaged twenty bucket. And then you got
herb Jones who just got paid the fifth thunderd.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Then you got whole Alvarado. So who's the superstar besides Ion?
And I said, is the superstar?

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Super?

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Okay? Stop there all stars? They all stars like that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
Who's the superstar outside of Okay, san Antonio, Who's Who's superstar?

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
He wasn't here yesterdays. Can we see him be healthy?
That's what you say. Can we see him be healthy?

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Can we see Zion be healthy? You're in trouble because
the air the air Fox might not start at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
We'll say this though A good point though, right, Spurs,
you got a lot of good pieces that fit. So
this this is the Spurs pros.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I do think they have a team that fits you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Like, that's just comparison like that. I like the Spurs.
You like that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Yeah, that's cool. Okay, Kenny got Candley from Canada. Shoutouts
to Candy. I mean Kelly who the other center? Nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
He's gonna scroll down a little bit, Louke Cornett. That's
not a bad pick.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Castle Rookie of the Year. I like Castle Fox. You
know the problem. I'm gonna ask you this. I'm gonna
ask you this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
I see I see a lot, I see a lot
a lot of potential, a lot of potential, but I
see a lot of.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
We got whose team this is? We know whose team is.
We gotta figure out whose number two number.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Here? No, no, this deer Fox Okay, number two is deer.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Let's go to Pelicans.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Man, hold the whole. Can we talk about that first?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Why do you guys know why do you guy think
it's a discussion to be castle on dearn Fox?

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
I think it's a discussion. I think Castle is not
gonna discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Is a DISCUSSI who's the number two dearon Fox?

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Higher spread Castle than Fox they are, but it's still
he just traded for Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Understand.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
I'm so confused. Do you know how to still work
young guys? Fox is number two? Foxes number two? He said,
But if he doesn't your partner. But if he doesn't
step up, they got the young boy they just drafted
to come in place to go to young boys with
him and castled by each other. I'm just telling you hurt.
You know how this lead get hurt? You got heart? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Yeah, you know how?

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Yeah, I'm saying, you know how this league work? You
know how league work. That's a that's a person set
up for Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Yo. If women didn't get hurt last year they were
about it was what flowing with.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Five hundred five n't enough in the West.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
I understand that beat. I think they got better is
what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Okay, let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Let's let's let's match.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
It's got better, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
So if you want to buy and ask going with
Charlie somehow, I want to buy into the Jordan pool
versus Darren Fox. Is Darren Fox every day of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Talk to him. He's not the first of all. Talk
to him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Listen, this is this nigga a CBS sports is projected lineups.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Why is John Murray not starting?

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Because is he going to be back in time?

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Is he going to be back?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Is he healthy? It was all your last year, right, yeah,
let me see.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
No, he has no timetable return.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Talk to him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
It says right here, he's there's still no timetable on
his return, so they're probably just including him up nasty. Okay,
so we let's start with him out there because the
timetable at the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Well, dearon Fox not starting the year. I'm still not
scared Fox out too. But he's starting. You started dealing Hopper,
which is nice, which is cool. Yeah, but he's still will.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
I think I think the Aaron will be back by
a couple of games.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
They produced rookies. You saw what the last one did well,
last one Castle and Windby right, rookie a year, Yeah,
and then Castle get rookie a year Chris Paul. They
produced what.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
They did nothing, not Homeland, but the young That's what
I'm telling you about Dylan Harper. It's his first year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
They got another year of experience.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
You know what I'm saying, You got to rot with
your boys because you already made it best.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I don't think it's I don't think that it's it's
not reported that deeron Fox won't be back at the
beginning of the season. So yeah, we we don't know
about that. But let's compare lineups with what we do.
Jordan Pool versus Dear it's a walk. It's dearon Fox.
Trey Murphy, the third before Trey Murphy. I almost said
the third that's crazy versus Stephan Castle, who we got.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
We're not even it's not even a debate. Let's go
to the smooth small forward. What do you mean it's
not a Trey Murphy is way better than Stefan Castle.
Stop speakers peace? You believe that speaking Castle? Shoot, speak
your peace? Grey Murphy does it? Like the only thing
Trey Murphy doesn't have right now is in between games

(01:16:18):
and he clearly he said he worked on that this summer.
So we will see. Frey Murphy has proven he's a
proving I'm being honest. I haven't seen nothing about Trey Murphy. Okay,
Trey Murphy is better than Castle. Okay, he's six nine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Long? You COOLO?

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Are you conceiving that they win the two matchup?

Speaker 5 (01:16:43):
I say no, I'm going, but it's because I'm biased
because Yukon Ship Rookie of the Year and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
All right, cool, so whatever we can do that, I'm
going with Herbert Jones versus I guess it's the Devin
vessel Or who starting for the Sanatos Spurs. Peter can
go back to that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Herb Jones over seven devil locking that up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
I'm going with k I'm going with Devon over over over,
over heard.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
You you think can't lock up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
We're talking over a year, right, We're not talking about
just one on thee. We're talking over the year.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
I thought he was talking. We were just we were
just talking.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Know who's better, know who's like? Whos which players better?

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Better player on each side? Like said yourself, Okay, I said,
Herb Jon going with her.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
If I'm a coach, I'm going with her. If I'm
a coach, I haven't really. If I'm a coach, I'm
going with her because I need my defenders for it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
It's Harrison versus Ion. I'm going with Zion.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Who y'all got center? I like h I'm like h
but I'm going with you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Gotta say that, like h.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Yeah because the Caroline, Oh, I mean, I mean, I'm
gonna show load of for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Just like it's a good well call it a wash. No, No,
it's not a It's not a fucking wash.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
I'm surprised y'all picking a duke over and then listen,
you can't really argue it. But no, but how much
of how much of a gap is it? It's how
much of a gap?

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Is it a healthy Zion?

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Healthy Zion versus a healthy Harrison.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
It's pretty good, It's pretty If you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Put a percentage on thirty forty fifty, you are gonna
have a disrespect. Let's go to no, no, because I
want to do the same thing for you guys versus Wenby. Oh,
but that's there's a massive gap there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
It's too it's too gaps to be gaps.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
With power for.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
So from what I heard is that the Spurs won
more matchups they want three. And then the shooting guard
is kind of a wash according to power.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
According to no, we just we just we won't shooting
guard through power forward.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
No, you didn't win shooting you only want no shooting
guard was a wash.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
It's a wash.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Shooting guard and small Ford. We both went herb Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
We're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
As a wash?

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
How was shooting got our.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Okay, listen, both of them are washed. They want point
guard and they want center. You guys want power forward.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
We want power forward shooting and small you did not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Win small forward was the chat? Whoever's in the chat?
Are the shooting garden small for as a wash? Yes
or no?

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
No? Weather wash, no, agree on it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
I'm gonna be honest with you. What what is special?
I have not seen anything from Visell. First of all,
he hasn't even been healthy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
What's his numbers? Cll's numbers?

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Give me play bro, I'll give you the numbers. Damn
what y'all talking about? My thing is this Pelicans team
has won before the Spurs never one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Never sell average nineteen two years ago to average sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
This year last year, you said, what Trey Murphy leverage
last year? I'll let you know right now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Let's check them numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Trey Murphy average twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Okay, was.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
But a clip? Hey they're said it was a wash,
but but hoold up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Herb Jones only average ten, So vacill.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
That's not his role. That's why, that's not his role.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Crazy, look at numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
Herb has more value to the Pelicans than Vassil has
to the Spurs period.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
That is a fact. But you can't, can't. I want
a clip.

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
I want to clip for here on out of Charlie
saying I'm a numbers guy and we just go play
it randomly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Your numbers guy, the numbers guy you're okay, showed me
Herb Jones numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Then, I mean Stephen Castle average fifteen four and four
is a rookie, so like he you know, if you're
talking about the jump, right, and you can talk about
the jump. And I was just gonna say with Burt,
like I said, Tredy Murphy, I don't do those pieces fit?
Do those pieces fit with Jordan Poole as your point guard?

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
Yes, it's gonna fit, Bro, It's going to fit, right,
they're gonna better than.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Yaing off the steaks?

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Who are you with?

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
I know, I don't really care. I don't have a
horse in this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
I'm so don't. Don't don't speak on speak on italysting
out of his fucking pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Then he can't see what I'm saying. He's speaking on
it like he who you got? You better be with me?
Because but he said he got to. He's not confident
in that. I think it's not What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Man? Will you?

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
I want to bet if I spent my own money,
I'm picking the Spurs. But it's like fifty five percent
on the Spurs side.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
I got you. That's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
I'm like, I'm more so the bet is can we
we we? We?

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Uh we peat the bet?

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Y'all want off those steaks or y'all want to? I like,
because y'all seem very comfordable.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Both of them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Don't care what you do. I don't care what y'all do? Yo?
Are you? Are you that confident? Off the bat? All? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
So what are y'all thinking? To fifty five stack?

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
I like five hundred? I like, I go two hundred fifty.

Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
I'm not really I don't want to really, I say
we stayed a hundred because I don't really want to
waste a bet on Pelicans and Spurs.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
No, that's exciting. That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
That is a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
I go two hundred to Hunt two hunch, Right, I've
got no power, right too hunch.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
That's cool whatever. Al Right, So how about you and
Hun played me in the Too Long Too that's not fair.
I'm with that, and I played for too for hard.
I play all that play two hundred. You are active.
I got to facilitate over here. You got a dude
that hasn't played in ten years a decade. Come on, boy,

(01:22:37):
Yeah for a stack. I like that burn Away, hold
on who you with? Burns with you?

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
I think he's with you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
I think he's got to be with who you with?
He's with me because I think, yeah, that ain't gonna work, all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Right, Sol Jordan Pool, that is gonna work versus.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
It worked before to Stay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
It's just you versus them, though well technically like I
don't don't, I don't need no bread. But I'm on
your side.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
I'm fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
I think will be better. Let's move on from Let's
move on from them, all right, Pat Rowley's petty as
hell supposed that he will not trade Andrew Wiggins to
the Lakers because he does.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Not want to help Lebron because of the whole Miami thing.
What are your what are you guys thoughts?

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Nigga old.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Nigga old bro.

Speaker 5 (01:23:31):
You just need to fucking go, dog, Noah, I don't
say that he's not not not, and I don't mean go.
I mean, like, just be done being a GM this
old man petty bullshit, Doug, you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Know these old dudes grudges that man. You love me,
get your old ass song? Dog?

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Who cares? D Wayne left your ass too because he
was being a dick.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
But he's been addicted the way though he might be able.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
To the Wade deserved it. What did he do to Miami?
Don't know what championship? I'm with you, I think, but
the two more Lebron brought them to championship, so he
wanted to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Lebron about to get too more championships?

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
No, I said, Lebron bought him to tampion, so he
wanted to leave. Why you mad? Let it go? You
took his fucking cookies off the plane. Just kept the
damn chocolate chip cookies on the plane over some cookies.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Cookies, you know what you know?

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Plays in my head when he said that you're a
mad rapper. It's my fourth album, you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Was the bigg.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Don't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
No one knew what he was talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
This is my fourth album.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
All the drive around the benzes. Damn y'all don't remember that,
y'all this already died like that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
I don't bro.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
It's a tough I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Gonna get that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
I'm gonna pay, I'm gonna play it, and.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
You don't gonna make it worse.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Stop the wise pat Roley so mad though, like you gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Just move on. He's a bitter old man, that's all
it is. It's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
We're all gonna get there for sure. We're all gonna
be out there best.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
What it is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
You think you're gonna be better like that?

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
I don't know. I'm still gonna be giving a that
age when I get that g though. He's right, I
see you g.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Is a g all right, we can move on from
this topic. Everybody feels the same, all right. Put the
Stephen A Smith clip, I mean not clip but image.
Ray and Charlie I had Ray and Charlie fucked up
after reading this happened. Unfortunately he had I hadn't fucked
up this morning. Ultimately, on too many occasions, cats that
didn't play they want to act like they knew it

(01:25:37):
all on their own when it's impossible. I will never
disrespect an athlete by acting like I know what the
people well, I know what people who actually didn't know.
I don't know more.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
I know what I know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
I can come at you from a scribe, from a pundit,
from a commentary tater's perspective, but I never disrespect. I
always make sure you know I don't know what you know. Look,
just put bad the cameroon.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
I'm confused trying to say. I thought that's how he
made his that's how you make that's how he made
his name. You never plays, never played the game, y'all
gotta help me break this down, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
He basically said, yeah, he he always puts it in
the players out like I don't know as much as you.
I don't know nothing, and a lot of people make
their name off of commentating without playing the game.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
I mean, he played a little D two right stop.

Speaker 5 (01:26:31):
Okay, let me say this though, I think he is
the best at that though, he lets he lets. So
he's saying that, what is he saying, What is he saying?

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Pull it up?

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
What is he saying? He's saying ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Says there are too many people who never have played
the game acting like they know it all.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
So wait a minute, that's you exactly what we're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
I talked to you about this before. Just because you
haven't played basketball, don't you don't you have a mind?

Speaker 6 (01:27:00):
Is that not?

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
That's one fair. But when you get to talking about game,
like in game stuff and like the stuff that I
see these guys talking about, like, oh he was trash tonight, motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
We human, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
Football player don't go out there and throw the passes
right every time. Every baseball player don't throw the right
pitch or hit of five for five every game. Like
we're fucking human. This ship is not gonna be perfect
every night.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
Steve made a living of disrespecting talking negative about the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Ball, Yes, about Lebron, about athletes, What are you talking
about so if so as us as athletes? Me, I
played fourteen years. If I want to say, shut the
fuck up, you ain't ever did this. I have that
right because I did do this. I was in that
locker room, I was on the court. I wasn't nobody

(01:27:57):
who set the bench. I played, so I was in
the mix. I was in heated battles.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
I was in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
So I can speak on it. And I'm not saying
he can't because he did it. But when you start disrespecting,
when you start calling people trash, that motherucker trash, like
I heard you say these things her Skip Baylor say
these things trash trash? How you could call somebody trash?

(01:28:23):
You know what I'm saying, Like, how do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Y'all feel about someone like Perk that's been in the
locker room speaking like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
That that holds a little bit more weight than Stephen A. Smith?

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
To me, it does, But I still don't like it
because it's been nice, Perk, you've been trash horrible. I'm
just saying that's why I don't speak like that about
players players trash.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Bro, I say this ship all the sc say I'm
closer to Bron, then you're closer to me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
A bar.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
That's a bar, that's a that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
Think about think about this man, And I always talk
about this ship, bro, like it's only less than five
thousand players to ever play in the fucking NBA. Forty
five less than five thousand ever playing the NBA. So, Thel,
you did something that Bray, you did something. I did
something that a lot of people wish they could have done.

(01:29:20):
So how how am I trash?

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
So when I see people make comments, I see comments,
I see stuff when we post oh yeah people, and
I want to go back so bad. I want to
go back, But I'm gonna have the y'all my motherfucking energy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Who the fuck are you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Somebody said something to me today, I'm not going I'm
not giving you that type of energy for what right?

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Sometimes sometimes I got time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Today Charlie goes back to people.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
I know, I got it. I got it. I got it.
The dude one day, like he told me I was
eating too many burgers. I said, I say, you eat
too many weights, motherfucker. He was a big old muscle
bound though that don't do no damn legs, motherfucker. Funk
out of here, and you stop eating the weights top
heavy like an ice cream cone. Picture. He no cap.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Someone says some ship to the today because of his
take by the way you got roasted for that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
I don't give.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
I was going, no, no, no, killed bro.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Everybody picked my more.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
That was everybody was saying over Asia, this is his
opinion was he's young, He's just he's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
It's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
I'm just saying he lost that one spoke about it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
I didn't lose because the people agree.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
No, I don't go.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
I think Asian is the go. Look, but we'll get
to that. I would say this about Steven.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
And that's what I said. But we're talking about if
we cut longevity out of itevity.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
I would say this, but she got four m v
p s three differensive play.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
My argument once Larry Birg got more of the piece
and Kobe. I ain't gonna sit here and put Larry
over Kobe.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Some people will.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Some people will just put Larry Bird over Kobe.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
We're not.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
We're not gonna let me move. You get a difference, No, no, no,
because you can go do that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
But listen, Larry Bird was considered one of the best
players to ever played this game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
But not Kobe. Not over Kobe.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
There are definitely people that I'm just being what do
you think my opinion? No, Kobe yes, But what I'm
telling you is though like my daddy's age, are picking
Magic and Bird over Kobe. I'm just being somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
We can't use every piece to measure players greatness.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
This is my this is my problem. You're you're your
thing is pure dominant. But but she exactly numbers though,
and so does exactly. This is I love my w
I love pull this. If my more want to stop playing,
then there probably be no conversation. But this is no conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
Okay, but she did.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Here's my Asia needs to play three more.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
She needs to play.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Dominate a little bit more dominate. Why here's the argument, play.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Gets six m v p s. There's no question, because
that's possible, very possive. But right, this is what bothers me.

Speaker 5 (01:32:20):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
We're asking someone who we clear cut we have no
problem with her being m v P.

Speaker 5 (01:32:25):
Every year that she's a v P, we're asking her
to be a six time. I'm not saying that that
I'm heard to compare her to Miam.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
I just you see her dominant, the dominant for a
couple of years, a couple more. Can you're asking for
my how many years she played?

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
They played? They've both played.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Eight they have both played eight. Ye what I'm saying
eight to eight, So so she won. She won half
of her years, my one half years, ages one two.
Maya was so dominant. Has four ships of eight eight
and she got two.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
She got to two out of seven so far.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
She got a chance to get one dishes. Yes, so
if she gets three, if she gets three, if she
gets three, and then turn around and she got four
m vps.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
She here's my thing to right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
We can't make that conversation. And she's going to play
more years. She ain't retired.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
It's a conversation for sure. But what took me over
from Maya is that I believe that the top two
to three percent of the w n A was better
than it was today. Well Lisa Leslie, Tina Thompson, Tamika
Catchings like yeah, Lord Jackson, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
That the league was was they was good. But these
girls are good too.

Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
I think these girls are good to those were hall
of famers at that time. These girls are getting better.
The talent is getting better. They're not Hall of famers
right now, but they will be, but they will be right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
But that that that that's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Who comes to mind for you right now, that's on
those people's level. Only Brianna Stewart Asian Wilson Wills comes
out of that line with.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Call your call Your Alyssa Thompson, Listen, listen Thompson doing yours.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Thompson parking. Although she's not there with me for them,
she will be the end of her career. I'm just
saying that, that's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Alyssa Thompson bro, she's aller Alyssa Thomas, Lista Thomas. She's
a baller bro.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
But she's not with Lisa Leslie.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
She will be, not yet, not today, but she will
be her career. What's the other girl that played for
Seattle's a scholars that's the other one, the big girl.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Like cool, they're not She's not playing against a couple
a lot of cupcakes. What's Atlanta?

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Was good?

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
But but here's the thing here you by the way,
but this is what I woul ask you, guys, Fever
surprises people broke, So right, this is what I asked you, though, right,
we only talk about the Fisa, Brianna and Asia at
the top of the peak of the w n B.
I think a listen, all of them are a tier
below because just because I think.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
They're that dominant there there, there there, those three are
that dominant in this era. Right, they're dominant. Sabrina, Brianna
and Asia. Those are the top three, top three, right,
those are the top three. Everybody agree with that? Okay,
we talked.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
About Lisa Leslie, Tina Thompson, Tamika Catchings, Lauren Jackson, Super
Diana TARROSSI all on the same level.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
And am maya more better than my whole point?

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Yeah, you made it sound like it's easy though easy,
You're crazy, bro, Lauren Jesus, Lauren Jackson was cold.

Speaker 6 (01:35:50):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
I like it.

Speaker 8 (01:35:53):
I like I like the fact that we talk about
Jackson shout you got this. She was right now, he said,
will be better than you like.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
It's a cake walk, cake walk and you don't think
Daddy Davis is a cakewalk.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Was saying that that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Talk ship.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
I said, you're not gonna come on here and disrespect
lawd Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Bro, you're not gonna do that.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
Ag.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
We're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Asia.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Lloyd Jackson's got a three times w N B.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
A v P talking ship three times we got she got.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
But my point is Wingle act like is a cake
wall case.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
He said the cake.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
He said the.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
Cake walk not Let's move on, bro, Let's move on
doing any wall.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
It's not good you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Let's get back to man.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Let's get back to.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Ya.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
He's fucking crazy for that take, Bro, he be talking.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Ship like you know, the fact that we're talking about that.
I love that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
That means the w is growing shot. I should have
doubles flowers. Man, I was watching the games, the two games.
Pay them girls, man, Yeah, pay them women. Now, how
about you think should be? Hey, can we talk about that.
I don't want to talk about you know, Steven H.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Smith, forget how much you think the max s dollary
should be. They weren't happy with a million dollar offer.
I think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
The Max trying to hear me out. Let's talk.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
I talk about this all the time. I want every
woman to get paid. My daughter plays the game, so
I want women to get equal numbers that we get.
But they can't. They don't have the revenue that we have.
And that's what I want people to understand. And that's
what I want the girls to understand. I want these
girls to understand. Y'all going, They're all going in the

(01:37:58):
right direction, don't don't have a lockout, don't. Yeah, because
y'all don't have the leverage right now if they if
they had a big TV deal, Yeah, but if they
don't have the money to give y'all what y'all want
them to do? That the revenue is not up there yet,
and that's what I want them to understand. Once the
revenue gets up there, then yeah, you go in negotiate
because y'all are the talent they need y'all to make

(01:38:20):
to get the money that they need. But the money
is not quite there yet. Now, if you sign a
now being out a deal that the NBA did, y'all
got a leg to stand on. Now y'all can go
back and say we're not playing. We know y'all got
the money, give us more money. They ain't sign nothing
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:38:35):
So you think they should do like a shorter term
deal and then they can to redegotiation. Yeah, renegotiat later
on because the league is going in the right direction.
They all know that it's growing. Yes, revenue hasn't really
caught up yet exactly is grown? For sure, it's growing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
But why is a million dollars not enough in two
fifty for minimum salary?

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
When the lead.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
When the lead, when they it's like seventy seven right now,
that's a big jump.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
It's still though, that's a big jump.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
That's what the business. The business is still in the red.
So we're willing to give y'all more money because we
know where it's going. So sign a shorter deal so
y'all can go back and renegotiate, you know what I'm saying,
and then y'all can go start getting the money y'all deserve.
They're basically paving the way for the girls who's coming later.
And that's everybody had to do it. Think about the

(01:39:27):
old heads who didn't get the money we got. Think
about me and Charlie and theo on us don't get
the money that these guys are getting today. You got
to pave the way. It's a process and you and
you always.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
That's just I don't want to see a lock out
because the momentum.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
And Burton don't want to see a lot. I don't
want to because I watched back I like, I'm to
be honest with you, I never really watched the w
NBA like that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
I watched them now. I like it all the playoff games,
I watched them, Yes, I watched them. It's it's exciting
to see, so it's growing. But if you lock out, bro,
I just think it's gonna hurt them. That's my that's
my personal opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
Short term, I.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Think that's fair because you know so too. Sadly, he
came on and disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
I understand Listen. I do understand their side, so I'm
not listen girls, I'm not sensitive to how y'all feel
because y'all do deserve more money. Y'all do, But I
just want y'all to understand the business. Yes, I want
you to understand the business side and the process to that.
Y'all do deserve more money. I do because the way
they play New girls play hard and they deserve it, Bro,
I swear they do. I'm with them, and the bottom

(01:40:34):
line doesn't matter because they looking at it as players, Bro,
they pros. They deserve They feel like they deserve more money.
So I respect that and I understand that. But you
got to look at the business side of it too,
is that the revenue is not there yet for y'all
to get more money. And once they do, hell yeah,
I go in there with the meets and fight for
y'all too. I think it's to the point now it's
kind of like there's you gotta take it, you gotta

(01:40:59):
ride the way. You can just see it from both sides.
They're riding away. They're like, bro, we hot, we got
to strike while yeah, yeah, because but at the same time,
going from seventy seven to the minimum, talking about so
seventy is a minimum, I'm not even talking about I'm

(01:41:20):
not even talking about the max.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
I'm just talking about ship.

Speaker 5 (01:41:25):
You make it more than a fucking g player. Yeah,
like two fifty's that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
I think it's good too. That's good, you know what
I'm saying. And a lot of them not.

Speaker 5 (01:41:35):
And they getting more teams, so they're they're gonna have
to pay a little bit more. So it's gonna get harder.
But the problem is, this is my problem that I'm
nervous about. And this is just from what I see.
Kayler Clark drives a lot of this ship. Right when
she don't play, it plummets. That's the issue, right, right,
So they have to figure out a way. Now, there's

(01:41:58):
nothing you can do about injuries and ship like that.
But I guess it's like, all right, you gotta you
gotta just find the happy medium. I love the CBA
having a short shorter term the thing. I would make
a short term deal and then go from there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
They're using that to negotiate against them.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
Yeah, well yeah, that could be a negotiation tactic.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I think they hurt them a little bit that the
numbers went down when one player went out. I think
that hurts them in negotiations. That numbers went down because
one player went out. That hurts the and the and
the hard truth and the heart true. The hard truth is,
we know they all are very talented, and they're good,

(01:42:43):
and they deserve to be watched and appreciated.

Speaker 5 (01:42:46):
But the numbers don't don't know, the numbers don't lie.
Just like anything else, you go. I've been dealing with
this podcast ship for three years. If your numbers ain't right,
ain't nobody paying attention to your ship?

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
I won't say you like that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
We also perspective eighty two games as well. Yeah they're
not They're not playing eighty two games right, So that's
part of the negotiation as well. So if you tell
me you're playing from what I want to say mid April,
no early May to end the end of October, right
middle October. You're making a million dollars. I think I
think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
You see that question on the chat. No, I'm not
a question why.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Not because it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
Lower lower the rins?

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
Why not feet? Everybody plays basketball like basketballs ten feet?

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
But the game, the game was meant to be played.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
I have multiple conversations, but with no, that's the top
player they know, way they're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
Then, I'm so, why the women playing with a smaller ball?

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
I think they should played the same tastball too.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
I believe that as well.

Speaker 5 (01:43:48):
So if they're giving them a smaller ball, why we
got to give them the same as men as the
rim of the height ten feet? Why you gotta be
ten feet if they're playing with a smaller ball.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
I disagree with small basketball as well. I think they
should play the right size basketball if there, I think
there should be a pro size basketball ever approach and
played with.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
I think is whatever it takes to make it grow.
It doesn't make it different because they playing nine feet
and we're playing ten doesn't make a difference. I would
love to see these girls dunk on each other, to see.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
That on each other.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
I would love to see it like that would make
more people, That would make more people watch the game.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
I kind of I kind of like the fact that
they're a little bit more below the ring and they
actually got to run a lot more sets and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
I kind of like that about the w.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
Like as if it was all like the n B A.
I think, and you guys know it's a water down
product because it's just you wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
Get excited if you saw a girl get on fast
breaking you would you wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:44:47):
Have you ever dunk in your life? Have you ever
dunk in your life? Have you ever done You don't
know what it feels like. So it's coming from a guy.
I'm gonna tell you why. I know he lying because
I know everybody the kid as a wanted to dunk
as a kid, right put the rib when.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
I do love the fact that that made you feel
that bullsh it, that's how I felt.

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
I don't give a damn that in that moment when
they put that limb down you that made you feel good?

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
No, because you're lying, bro, You're lying because before I
could do it, before I could do before I could
do lying, before I could dounk and they put the
rim down and I dunk.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
I felt good, but I felt better slapping glass because
that's actual regulation. That was me you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
Out of hand.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
Now, Ain't that don't mean ship? It ain't really a dunk,
bro we are.

Speaker 5 (01:45:51):
I could dunk and I still liked playing on smaller rims.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Just anyways, dumb ship. My point is that I do
like the fact that they play a lot more sets
because it's blow the room. That's all right, all right,
I'm let you make it rock all kurtis he got
a video to play. I don't know, Kurt, play the video.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Playing the video, Kirk. Hey, oh this that was a
big man ten million a year.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
She's on her rookie contract. So yeah, it's like seventy thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
I never knew this, really, yeah, really, I never knew that.
So now we got a lot of the rip.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
Stop it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:35):
But you want to make more money like Kaitlin go
Baseline and Fingertip dunk and an Angel the way she
do her layup like that. Let her turn that wrist
over one time and throw it down. Come on, man,
trust me on this telling you. I've always said something
in Candice on how the game I was doing the
check versus one time, and I was training with the
women volleyball. I'm spiking. I'm looking like an Olympic volleyball.

(01:46:57):
But then when I get to the guys, I'm barely spiking.
So I said, hey, yeah, then that's just lowered a
little bit. And then women's golf guys are back here.
The women are right there, right. What's the only thing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
They do?

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
They do it every it in every sport. When you go,
the women goes up further.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
They hit, they hit. They the guys don't playball exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
The only two sports with fair I mean tennis, they're
technically paid more, but tennis and track are the only
two sports where they're paid fairly. They're the exact same
length in the exact same court.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
Am I wrong? Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
But tennis.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Is tennis played on the same court. Yeah, tennis. In
track and field, they're run one hundred meters to You
just picked two sports, and it's the only sports where
they paid two individuals.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Two individual sports.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
You can play. You can play doubles and tennis. That's
the only that's the only sports where they're paid equally.
Women act.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
Team sportsnave me a team sport with that's case.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
I think hockey is the same same length the court.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Women playing hockey.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
We're signing out, we're signing out hockey. Yes, never listen.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
I just found that out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
So Helly wicked to put the music on already. No, no, no, no,
I spressed out by accident on my computer. Women playing hockey. Yes, yeah,
Helen wicked. Heighters to go.

Speaker 5 (01:48:22):
I haves from idea that. But he's from Canada, Bro.
They play hockey up there, that's the main sport they
don't play. He is in America.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
Yes, they do.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
They do the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
They do. Women playing hockey is fire, Yeah, I know
they do. Now I need to clip Peter.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
Peter, pull up US A versus Canada or some ship
because never in my life seen this.

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
Yeah, I mean, listen, they're legit leagues, so.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
They need to do that. They need to do a
better job promoting.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
Then they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
It's not a focus in the USA. And if it
is like Boston, Minnesota, so and.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
It's legit like.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
So again, it was a legit question, so knock it off,
huh Because at the end of the day, and the
reason I say that too is because listen and golf.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
That tea is up there and ain't no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Golson an individual sports so you can't bring that up.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
But you just used to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
They said we have to throw out the windows. Out
the window.

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
So now because we just named because okay, we'll throw
out then every other sport there's a fucking there's a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
It's easy but not easy?

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
Is volleyball different? I don't think volleyball is different?

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
But why do you why the ball is not an
individual sport? No?

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
No, but that's what we just said.

Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
Do you do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:50:02):
Do you why do you think it won't be more
exciting if Katelyn Clark went baseline and punched on Angel rees?

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
You said?

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
What the volleyball is lower?

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
Yeah? The volleyball name, yeah said.

Speaker 5 (01:50:15):
So let me ask you if Katelyn Clark went baseline
and punched on Angel Reees, you think that wouldn't go stupid?

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
I think for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
That's exciting for the game.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
You're rather go you rather see her go smack backboard?
That's what he's what you said. That's what he looked
up to this guy backboard.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
Guys, you're talking about me, who's a male that ten
foot is our regulation.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
So yes, that's what pride. Is that fair?

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
That's my pride. Say I can't actually nunk.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
Let me ask you, Let me ask, Let me ask
all three of you this.

Speaker 5 (01:50:51):
If you are in their position and they said, all right, look,
our numbers were skyrocket, you get what you want.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
We just got to lower that none. Would you do it?

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
All of them? Yes? I think they would say yes.
But I think also comes down the pride where they
think that we can play the game the normal Look
at our chat, do you want the bread?

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
I think a lot of them be like, yo, we
can play the game at this by the same regulation.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
You've got some girls who could dunk exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
Some of them can already dunk like that, the one,
the Malingo whatever on Seattle.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
She point's nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
What compromises the game?

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Yeah, I don't know what, because you're talking about their skill,
like they can't play a nine foot That's not what
we're saying, you guys. But that's what That's what they're
saying about the general. The game needs you need to
dunk to be exciting. That's what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
The dunking is exciting. That's a part of our game.
That's exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
All right, Well, listen, I'm not arguing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
With you guys. That's part of the game that's not
in the W n b A.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
That's my opinion. I'm not saying it's right or wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:51:49):
It's missing. Why is it missing because women can't jump
as high? I mean not saying they can't. Some can, yes,
but not the majority. My thing is, why is the
n b A is still trying to figure out new
things to elevate the game and not staying the same.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
Why would the W not do the same thing? I
got it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
I got nothing else to say.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
That's just my question.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
All right, Cool, you'all got anything else to say?

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
Drop the need the horns. Let the big shout out
to the Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Mister Charlie. He h he like five in a row, beewter,
five in.

Speaker 10 (01:52:36):
A row, shout out to see the Hall of Fame. Man,
y'all know we right back here, Tom put.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
Up right, We got it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
He's peace

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