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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, cool, you're back in. You're back in.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Damn bro the malfunctioning man.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
All right, we were back live. Yeah, we were live.
We're live. Bet bet bet it's there.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Tyree's playing.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I saw him as questionable, but that was like forty
minutes ago.

Speaker 5 (00:26):
Yeah, somebody said he playing on uh Pat mcafield some
the day.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
You want your camera, my camera? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, all right, so let's start over. Let's start over.
So game so game game six. We all don't think
you think it's going seven or what.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I think it's going seven.

Speaker 6 (00:50):
But just also just breaking news betting guys that he's
fully intending to be playing tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
It just got that.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Y'all think he is. Y'all think he's at.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
I mean, I think for him to I feel like
for him to play the rest of that game. He's hurt,
but I don't know how bad it is, Like it's
probably tight. The thing about the strain is just like
it could get worse, you know what I'm saying. The
fact that he played that second half it is a

(01:24):
positive sign. Having two days of treatment and ship like
that can help it.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
But at the same time, recording in progress, you you're
really probably gonna attack this man.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
All night long.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Yeah, like they are that if I'm okay, see there's
not a possession, he's not in it that I mean,
he's gonna guard the same person he's been guarden. I
mean he probably get Dort or something. But at the
end of the day, Dort gonna be in every boss
screen where he has to guard the ball and over

(01:58):
time when you have to hate edge every ball screen
get back to yours like that shit, That shit gonna
wear him down. But like I said, they got other bodies,
and that's.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
The beauty of this Indiana team.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
It's like, if he don't got it and the other
guy playing well, at this point, you really got to
go to the other guy.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
We don't know whether we like to talk about that
because they still they still do have TJ McConnell, and
a lot of people are asking some of the same
questions I was asking.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Why was TJ McConnell not in the game when okay,
she started making.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
That run.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Dele do in this game?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I mean, I feel you, Bro, but nim Hart was
abysmably bad.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Now saying you're wrong, I'm just saying he's both to
look Delan dov in this game played forty minutes at
that high of level. Yeah, oh yeah, it's such a
different level, like you know with.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Gallinario.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
We had Gallinari on the part he said when he
was playing thirty five minutes as a starter, and when
he played twenty two minutes, but he had a deeper
playoff run. He didn't feel it it.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
TJ.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
McConnell has not been playing forty minutes a game at
the highest level guarding share whoever it is, he's about
to be cooked.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, I mean, but you're not gonna play it forty minutes.
If Tarres is playing, I'm just saying much. I think
he'll give him like at least twenty twenty five. My
thing is this, though I think he's your second leading
score going into the fourth, you can't get a bucket
Therese obviously didn't have it. Nim Hart for sure didn't

(03:32):
have it at the seven thirty six minute mark when
they started really struggling, and I think they had a
time out of a free throw when they had time
to put him in.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I was shocked to see him not go to the
scorers table.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
It's a pushing pool thing, because it's the reason I
saw why they didn't take nim Hart out. Regardless, Shay
had thirty right, but like he definitely had to work
for it. Nim Hart's done the best job on Shav
that I've seen, Like he does a really good job
on him, Like he knows him, you know what I'm saying,

(04:04):
So that makes a difference. That's why it was hard
for him to take him out because like listen, because
if you really think about it, Jadubb.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
The one who had it going.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah, and then when that was going on, they was like, Okay,
he's doing so well on shake, we can't take him out.
But then it got to the point where they was like,
it's like in hockey when they take it out the
goalie at the end of the game because they got
a score.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
At that point, nim Hart wasn't scoring.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
He was doing not doing the best offensively, so they're like,
fuck it, we gotta go offensive minded. So they put
McConnell and uh ty Reese out there and said, all right,
we're just going to try to go buckets at this
point because we got to put points on the board.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
What I would say to you guys though, is and
I didn't watch the paces early on this season. I
know you did. Didn't neb hard when he was injured?
Didn't the team look so different because of what he
does defensively and how he adds I guess a second
ball handler, like I know he didn't play well and
you say, bysmal Camra, let's be clear on the offensive end, right.

(05:03):
Everything else he does I think is so important for
the Pacers. But I didn't watch him that much earlier theil.
What are your thoughts, because when y'all said he was
injured earlier, you said they look like a completely different team.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
I think it's just the toughness and tenacity. When you're
playing and you got somebody up there picking up ninety
four feet and working their ass off, its kind of
like a trickle down effect where it's like, Okay, you
feel like a dickhead if you don't match his energy.
So if he's gonna do that the whole time, then
you're like you're subject to be like, all right, let

(05:35):
me come to the party. Let me go ahead and
do what I can do to help my teammates work
as hard as he is. And I think that's where
he sets the tone every single night, where.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
You know what he gonna do. You know what he
gonna bring.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
And then when he does that and set the table
and done as good as a job as we've seen
on Shay, then that's where it comes to. Hey, look,
because you got to think about it. Those shots that
he hit in Game four, were they on Hart? No, No,
the Smith. You know what I'm saying, like them, Hart
does the best on him. I'm not saying he stops him.
He ain't stopping him. But you can contain them and

(06:11):
make him work for everything.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean, I agree, I agree, I just think
they My only thing is I just think they waited
too late to go offensive only mindset, I think, yeah,
probably I probably would have done it. No, no later
than four or five minutes left in a quarter. That's
probably what I would do it. But again just as

(06:34):
hindsight too as well.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
On the flip side, Tyree Halvern is the most clutch
player in the league based on stats, right, Yeah, in
this playoffs, Like, it's hard for me to say I
can't play tyreee when he's I don't know what the
number was, but at the time it's thirteen for fifteen
and all the big shots he's made. So yeah, he
looked terrible in what was the game one? He looked good,

(06:57):
but he hit the big shot. So it's tough for
you have a player that shows up in the clutch
for you to bench him. That's all hindsight because every
other moment he's played poorly, but he's shown up with
the last five minutes. So I don't necessarily agree with
that about the whole. They should have played TJ McConnell
earlier because he showed up when it's mattered the most

(07:17):
other than okay, cool, but I mean a lot of
people of the chatter, So who would you have tooked
out at that pard?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Yeah, because he had four turnovers in like a five
minute span, So then.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
He did have some big turnovers.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
But then you have one, then you have a one
leg a tyresee.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
I mean, but nim Hart was really like negative that,
like that spurt, like he helped spark that whole run.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Four turnovers in like a five minute span is really bad, No.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I hear you. But yeah, I mean, you just gotta
look at push and pull, right, That's what I always.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I always look. That's the question is who's the most important.
Who's the most important?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Not like them Hart.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Nim Heart is the most important, not.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Most important, but he's He's like.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
If if they don't have nim Hart, are they in
the same part, same same spot.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I mean no, for sure. But that's my point though, is.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
He can't be a negative though, Like it'd be different
if you wouldn't turn the ball over he didn't have
it offensively, you keep on the for but he was
actually a negative, Like no, sure, park the run, That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
That's the thing is, like all he is the guy that.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Has to play well for them to win this series
because at the end of the day, Georg's taking Halliburton
at the game, right, Yeah, if he's going to do that,
that secondary ball handler has to make the plays. So
ultimately that's them heart. But at the same time, that's
where Pascal he's gonna have to be ultra aggressive tonight,

(09:00):
like and if he should have shot fuck it, shoot it,
you know what I'm saying, Like it has to be
something like that because at that point he is the
next guy that has to take over. If Halle is
gonna be let's say he has with the calf injury.
You use your calf then there every step you take,
so I mean, you do use your calf every step

(09:21):
you take. So at that point he's gonna be sixty
seventy percent at most because the back of your head,
in the back of the back of your mind, you
gonna think as soon as I and it's not even
gonna be a routine play. It's gonna be something random
where he's gonna feel something and then be like, oh fuck,

(09:43):
can I do that move?

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Can I do this move?

Speaker 5 (09:46):
And I'm sure he's testing it out multiple ways, but
in a situation like this, they're probably not even testing it.
They're probably like, bro, just rest that bitch and then
go out there and play. Don't even try to do anything.
Don't reaggravate it.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
He might go out there and get some shots up,
do a couple of moves.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Here and there.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Other than that, you just gotta go go hoop.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I'm not playing him. Then, if that's the case, I'm
not playing him. I'm I'm still term the use. I'm
monitoring the situation.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
They don't. They don't got no choice.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
He's gonna start for sure, were gone. I mean, if
you just anything take him out.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
You know you know you're not You're not sitting your guy,
your franchise guy.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Game six of the finals.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yeah, like you know, this is this is the fine
They sat him last year when he was hurt in
the Eastern Conference finals.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Was that close? You know what I'm saying. This year,
they're in the finals.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Bro, at that point, I'm trying, if you got to
give me the opportunity to try.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
That stream can become a terror, right. Yeah, he's gonna
be holling around on one leg against that OKAYC team
that is long and athletic and likes to get up
and down the court. It doesn't it's not a pretty.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Formula, Bro.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
I mean, I feel like, but if you're gonna go out,
you go out with your best ship, like you don't
you don't try and see what he gives you. At
least I agree if you see, he's not gonna give
you shit that you take him out, but you got
you know what I'm saying, Oh.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, no, but I don't think you'll pay well, That's
what I'm saying. Like, he's not gonna play well in
my opinion.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, just the only person, the only person that can really,
the only person that knows is him. Like I there's
times i I'm a big believer in availability is the
best ability, especially being injured multiple times.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
In my career.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
So I'm gonna go out there as long as I
know I can play and be productive. When you know
you're not productive, he'll sit down. He's not gonna fuck
his team up of a chance to be in Game seven.
You know what I'm saying, Like, it's ultimately at this point,
it might be the best bet for him go out
there and try.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Like bro, nah, I.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Don't got it, and immediately I would go in the back,
get more treatment and continue to try to work for
Game seven immediately, you know what I'm saying, Like, because
the best thing for Indiana right now is that they're playing
at home. So you would think those guys can play
well enough at home to still one go to game

(12:20):
seven and see if he can one game, give him
some toward all. Let's do this, motherfucker, and let's call
it the day.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Hey man, if he if I don't know, man, hamstreets
are tough, tough injuries, as you guys know, So I
don't know. I'm not playing around with that, but that's
up to him.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I mean, least at least he got the rest of
the off season, you know what I'm saying. Like you
gonna go out and see what you got. He got
hell of months to recover from that ship.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Like you don't talk about that though, right because the
reality of is you've had a lot of injuries early
in your career. And I talked to people about like
just the difference of being injured is like you don't
get to work on.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Your game when your injured thee on the offseason.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
You spend one of the first since you're seventeen to
twenty trying to get healthy in the off season.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Shit, that's the tough part is hopefully you don't go
into the off season where like a crazy injury, because
then at that point you really do just gotta sit down,
you can't do anything.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, and you're the same yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
So most of these guys are gonna just take a
break anyway.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Oh supressively. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Lot a lot of guys are gonna just be chilling
anyway right after the season.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
But this is what Draymond was talking about.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
It was just like the off season really isn't that
long for these guys, you know what I'm saying, Like,
if you go to the finals, the office is not
that long.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
You got to think a lot of guys's been done
for two months.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, two months.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
You got two less months, two less months than everybody else.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Like guys have been on second vacations, done all types
of shit. You know what I'm saying, Dude. Summer League
is in like two to three weeks. Yeah, free agency
is in like a week or two. Yeah, Like dudes
are think about their next season, and these dudes are
thinking about right now winning a championship. The mindset, Bro,

(14:13):
Indiana's making trades right now. They made a trade during
the fucking finals.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
So on on, okay, so you can get traded next week,
the draft next week.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
So if Tyree's playing Feba twenty three, yeah he did. Yeah,
he's gone NonStop for two years pretty much.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, he's been non stop.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
And like I said, the body, the body would tell
your ass to sit down.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I'll tell you that right now. Your body will tell
you to sit the fuck down. Michael.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I hope he doesn't pop his achilles. Man, Hopefully he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Man, I'll come some more for Jesus Chris.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
But it's crazy because it's everyone's like, yeah, you shouldn't plany.
I'm like bro, as a competitor, if it was me.
I'm going out there. I'm at least starting the game.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
It's the final.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, I'm at least starting the game and just saying,
you know, fuck it, bro, like we donet came.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
You done went through the whole season.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
And then for the I man, at least try and
then if I know, I can't go today, and if
he knows, and shoot around, he needs to tell them,
you know, and shoot around like if you there's certain
movements you do. There's certain things you do like no, Bro,
and you got Dort guard on you. He's gonna test you.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
Nah and it not being too too finicky with the
files and they gonna let you slide the finals.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
So there's no time off too, like you said, there's
no like Dor. Although Dort is not the most punishing
offensive player, he gonna crash the boards like he's it's
gonna be a problem if Tyres can't really move. So
but like it is what it is, y'all right to like,
you gotta give it a shot in the NBA finals.
You can't not play.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
You don't know what they're gonna get be back, Like
you know what I'm saying, this is one shot to win.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
No I agree. What what type of they said a
grade one string?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Let me check right now?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Or did they just say right camp string?

Speaker 3 (16:15):
And he has every intention of playing let me see
calf string he has? He reported he doesn't even have
an MRI yet.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh they bought only want to check.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, they didn't want to see.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Oh no they did, so they have an MRI. But
he pushed the play so I don't even think they're
releasing it. Sorry, So he just got an MRI on Tuesday.
They didn't say it grade Yeah, So when did he
spray his calf? When did he spray his calf? By
a straight his calf? Do you remember to play like?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Uh, he was just going off the dribble. He was
going left, the left.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
That's the problem. And that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Like when you do that, he does a lot of
hurky jerky movements. Where like when he does go like
if he goes back here and pushes off, that's the
one that you really got to test.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Can he do that? He was doing that second half
Like second half.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
He he looked normal, like he didn't look like he
was hurting or anything.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
He just didn't play. Well.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Yeah, if he can't, if he can't do that, step
back and then explode. It's gonna be tough for him
because his shot is already funky and he needs a
little more time to get separation. If he can't get
the separation, what is he really out there for?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Mm hmm, Man, you know, suck for him. Brow.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I don't know if you'll mentioned earlier, how y'll feel
about something a team making a trade while they're in
the finals there was no players, but it's still right.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's still.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Can no, you can't trade.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
That can only trade ass but you basically didn't trade.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
They basically didn't trade.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
That's insane to me. Bro, your mid finals and you're like, okay,
how do we how do we get draft capital? I mean,
I guess they're going all day. They're just continuing going on, right,
So it is what it is.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
But that's the thing, though, Bro, that's what that's that's
the crazy part when you make it this far.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Like like I said, I didn't play.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
I say this all the time because I don't need
nobody trying to talk ship because I'm gonna get tight.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
No, I didn't play.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
But when we went to the Western Conference finals, dudes
were going on their second vacation and we were just
getting done, and I'm like the season felt forever, so
I can't only imagine being in the finals and you're
sitting here. These organizations, they still gotta do draft workouts.

(19:07):
The combine happened, the lottery happened. Ain't the draft next week?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Wednesday?

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Draft, It's next Wednesday, bro, Like they don't have time
to just like that's what's tough about. They can't even
enjoy their team. This is the first time these teams
not the first time, but like this is their first championship.
They could win and they can't even really just enjoy
it because they still got to work on this other ship.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Crazy.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
If they go to Game seven, it's on Sunday, Bro,
The draft is on Wednesday. They only have like really
two days to prepare for that.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
It's on that point.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's sorry.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
At that point, fuck that draft, you know what I'm saying,
Especially if I can bring up first Chip Bro, both
of them. City's gonna be to shut down. Everybody on teeth,
locked in on the screen.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, no one cares, No, damn.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
This is this is a good draft though. Charlott the
Cooper Man just having dinner at Bob's, right.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, it's not that good though not good.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I said, the draft, you got to draft Park. Look,
I went to the one on how Park my birthday.
You gotta go to one because because Bob actually be there,
so they be honest stuff. I heard you.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
But no, but the top half of the draft is good.
The bottom half is not good.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Right, they said that. They said it's top heavy. They
said after after eight gets dicey. Everybody this name at.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
That point tough for the Raptors. Bro give them because
parked like they got some good people.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Still, yeah, there's no there's no stars.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I mean yeah, but you got some I think vible players.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
I don't think Bailey or Dylan Harber gonna be a star.
Are you talking about after that?

Speaker 4 (20:54):
I'm talking about after that?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
No, I'm with you. I don't believe it either. But
how about Cooper? Like that?

Speaker 6 (21:01):
How do we feel about the Ace Bailey situation? I
don't care, to be honest, you don't care about it.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean more so like he's trying to position his
drafts draft it happens every year, like it's just more public. Yeah, yeah,
all players do this steal. But I would say, oh,
but doesn't happen every year where people are trying to
position the drafts.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
People definitely trying to go people definitely trying to go
to where they wanted.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
But he ain't been nowhere.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
He ain't been nowhere.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
He's only a non international player who hasn't been to
a draft work out yet with a team.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
He ain't been to one. Bro No, I know that,
so that I don't know anybody. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
I don't know if anybody has done that where they
ain't go to one workout.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Insisted on working out for Dallas. They said they didn't
even need him to work out. He insisted on working out.
That's what I read.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
He's not really.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
No, I said Cooper.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh oh, I thought you said.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I was like, no, no, So Cooper insists, if I
if I read correctly, I just skimmed through it. He
insisted on working out before when they met with him yesterday,
Like they didn't even wanted to work out, but he
insisted on it. So I guess Cooper really really liked that.
He believes in himself, like that he better than himself. Hey, man,
don't trade the pick. No, they need to trade that pick.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, I mean go after we're getting honest. If we're
not getting honest. I don't want to trade.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
No, no, I agree with you, but I'm going after honest,
that's my point.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I'm going after.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
I mean, you know for sure, like I said, I
told you, I'm making the phone call for Giannis. But
I heard that price tag is insane right now that
he is the request of the trade.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Hey, Cooper Flag is worth it if most Cooper Flag
is considered gen rational talent by some in the league,
some not.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
You.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I don't know if you can get a better prospect you.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
So he's equivalent of two good players and four first rounds.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
That's what they're asking for. Apparently, what do you I mean,
He's not He's he's.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
The player value you need. Let's talk about which is great.
I'm glad you brought this up right. Everybody's mad about
the Hall for Bane versus the Hall for Luca. I
saw the tweet that Anthony Davis is worth four first
round picks. What what is everybody crying about? If you
try to change for Anthony Davis right now?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
How much?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
What is he gonna get you? He's gonna get you
a Desmond, He's gonna get you a player like KCP,
two good Vets and at least four or five picks, Like,
what are we crying about?

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
No, I agree, I agree, it's not the same.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
There's not there's not one NBA team that would not
take Anthony Davis.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
But that's my whole point. Why are people crying about
this guy? It's just it's ridiculous. Man, Like I saw,
I saw the tweet. I'm like, do we not feel
eighty is worth four or five picks?

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Anybody? Anybody in the Yeah, anybody in the NBA. If
you call him, like, yo.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
We wanna we want to move Anthony Davis, They'll be like,
what do you need?

Speaker 4 (24:18):
We want?

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Even teams with centers, even even even if they would
trade Joe ellenbid, they would trade. The only person that
probably wouldn't be traded is Luca and uh yoo yok.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Where does Adie ranking best two way players in the league.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
He's probably easily top five, I said top three.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
So who's who's up there? For guards? He's the best
too way big in my opinion?

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Uh, guards, Anthony Ras probably one.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Anthony one.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I think you put him even a jail and Brown
in the conversation.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Next Jalen Brown, j T King guard though the.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
One the Nigga in the finals right now, Jalen J.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Dove right now, top five, jas on top five.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
About just guard, said.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
No, No, I was. I was just asking the list
of other guards. But I'm talking about top five period.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'm just always talking about just guards.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Wenby. Wenby's got to be up there.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, when we had the hurt and Wmby.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Probably a D.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I have a.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Jannie yeah up there?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
But yeah, yeah, I think Andy Davis a better offensive
player and defensive player and talking about like just row skills.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
One through five, and.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
I think he has.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I just think he has the timing to I don't
know if you guys believe is the second best big
man on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
No, I think who's better than honest the uh not yet.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Might ahead of a D just because does he average
more blocks and teams in in one month and stuff
like that?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
True?

Speaker 6 (26:20):
True, but what that what he doesn't have on that end?
A D is better on ball and a D is
more that's true. Yeahs a better off the ball defender. No,
I'm with that. I agree with that. I mean, we
can see how he transcends into that though he could
be better, but yeah, I agree cool, all right, but
that's what what what's next on the list? Hey, the

(26:41):
Lakers just sold for ten bs yesterday. Jesus Christ, Jeanie Buss.
If you need a side piece, that's insane?

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Is it really?

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Is it really that to say? Really?

Speaker 6 (26:56):
It's not really to say so? So the new Lakers
on if you aren't familiar with him, he also owns
the Dodgers, and the reason why that is very important
because his bank roll is crazy. He does not care
about spending money, has the highest payroll in baseball, I think,
besides soccer in North American sports.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
The dude is has signed Otney for seventy million dollars
a year.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
And what they're saying the significance of this deal is
is that.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
He's ready to spend some money.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
He wants to the Lakers compete for a championship, which
means there's nothing he will hold back from getting the
pieces he needs.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
So before you continue that, right, but hold on, before that,
do you know the Lakers operating income was two hundred
million dollars?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
It's not like they were No, that was then operating income.
That means that's how much money they made. It's not
like they were Like, I don't know what they mean
by investing more. The Lakers are very profitable, so like,
what are we talking about.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
I think they were stuck. They were I think they
were stuck into a lot of age ship. They weren't
adapting to the way the world is now, like as
far as like Crypto and all this other ship.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Like a lot of this, A lot of the bus
money is still tied up in a lot of old
real estate deals.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
That's that's I mean, that's how he got No, and
it's fair.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
But when I looked at when I looked at Forbes
into my research quickly and I didn't do the most
fifty minutes on it, they're still making two hundred million
dollars operating income on the Lakers itself after you take
out interesting taxes. How much do you think they have
left over to spend on improving the team and everything else.

(28:36):
Like That's what I'm saying though, right, It's like, it's
not like they were flat and they couldn't spend more money.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
No, I mean it, But you gotta think though, bro,
Like when it there had to be some type of stinginess,
like it isn't.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I'm just saying any money was stingy. That's I mean.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
I think Genie and themselves themselves, like they're holdings, they're
not that they're not that liquid right now, like that
they they're liquidity wise, they didn't have much hash on
hands as far as that's what I mean. That's why
the this celle came. But they wanted more liquidity in
their ship.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Hey, look, the Lakers are about to be They damn
might get anybody and everybody.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
Someone I see the tweets song was like, fuck, what
center want to come to the Lakers, Luca, what center
do you want?

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah? What center? What center do you want?

Speaker 5 (29:35):
I promise you They're gonna call good and the dudes
gonna be like, who do you want?

Speaker 4 (29:41):
But what if you need?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
If you don't know, bro? Like that's that's what they said.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Happened when they when they were talking to Mookie and
Freddie Freeman, they were like, would y'all be opposed to us?
Like going all in on uh Otani and the niggas
was like if we can't get them, say if we said,
do all y'all post get no time? Like Yeah, Nate
signed a nigga for seventy What.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Do we talk What are we talking about? Because what
that Bo's free agents next year? What year?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
But hold on, the difference is baseball don't have a
salary cap.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
It's not like you can definitely spend.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
You true, but the difference is they're not spending that
seventy million dollars a year right now. What he did
was the president. That has changed more with the deferred contract.
You can't do a deferred contract in the NBA, can you.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I didn't know we could do that in MLB until
he did it.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I don't know you can do it. I don't think
you can do it. Deferred contract in the NBA can
be wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't know. You know that. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
I don't think you can, though I could be wrong.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
This is what this is what makes it interesting to me?
How did how did the Clippers? How are they able
to have that type of payroll? Right?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Oh, before you should continue on. You can do a
maximum of twenty five percent, which is not what Otani did.
So it's so yeah, it's so different, so different. Hey,
I can take I can take forty this year, and
then I can take fifty five in my last year.
You know what I'm saying, like, that's not the same
as was.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
He That's still a good help though, that's still a
good help.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
But but we're talking a difference of a mill Isn't
he making a million dollars a year?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you too.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
They're okay, Bro, they have make they have make the
money up somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
But but but that's what they said about is just
living office.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
He is literally the Japanese Lebron. He runs Japan Bro.
He's the biggest sports figure to ever.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
He No, he's really the He's really the Japanese Michael
George because he got GA.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, that's crazy. I'm sorry for cutting you off.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
You were saying, yeah, you're good.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Nah, Bro, they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna get whoever
the fuck they want.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah No, they don't get whoever they want.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
As long as they want to play with Luca, they're good.
They're good.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
I would say, there's I know it's still a solid count,
But if there's someone who's gonna fiaggle it a little
bit is going to be here.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Because I didn't think there's no way. Hell, when they
said they.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Was meeting with old tiny that he figured out way
to sign on, honey, I just have no like didn't
have any money to do that.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
You gotta think, bro, So there's things. Let me see
you can do it a couple of ways.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Let's say you fucking want to sign Linkers, Like, all right,
they give you.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Thirty, we give you, We'll give you twenty, We'll give
you thirty also, right, but we'll give you a five
million dollar house that you don't got to pay for,
give you two cars you don't gotta pay for.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
No, that's that's all valid. That's all valid.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Like, all that, all that goes out the win, All
that is that.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Not is it not that in the CBA field, because
it's like I can just give you money on the side.
There's no rules against that.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
To be honest, I'm gonna be real with you.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
I have no idea, but I'm gonna talk to time
if you do it through like certain selling companies. No,
if it's not the of the Dodgers or the Lakers
giving you money on the side, then what I would
say to you guys who want to just give you
some ship and they so happily live in l A.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
What can the league do about that? For sure?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
What I would say to you guys is the one
tangible thing that we can't argue with is if you
have bankroll like that, your facilities can be nicer. You
will pay a luxury tax, right. I mean, I can't
speak to actually playing for the Mavericks, but when I
used to hang over the Maveris facility when we did
the Stream two years ago, that ship was stocked with

(33:54):
fucking everything. It's like a little like Mark used to
make sure all these players were taken care of. So
all I can say on that front is they definitely
probably will have a better quality of life. But I'm
still going to die on the sword. That the Lakers
had an operating income of two hundred MP's, there was
liquid cash. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Yeah, all I'm saying listen, sometimes a lot of they
want to keep that money in their pocket, trying to
keep that money in their own pocket.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Talking about destinations, one of my places I visit quite frequently.
Not on one, Memphis, not on one. How y'all feel
about them? Listen, I can't speak much on this because
I want to be good in Memphis. Literally, But uh,
how y'all feel about the Memphis comments? Man?

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Uh, I mean I think it's definitely, in my opinion,
worse places than Memphis. What's worse than Memphis? I mean
I can speak on this. I'm from like my family
from there. But New Orleans is not good either, Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
I would say worse. It's competing. It's competing with Memphis.
It's for sure, it's for sure.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Similarly, it's New Orleans and Memphis the worst destinations in
the NBA. The yes or no you were an NBA player?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
No? Uh, I don't even.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Bring up Toronto. Toronto is a beautiful place.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
And no, I was never I was never gonna say Toronto.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
So what's worse than Memphis or Nola?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, looky sat Luis, he got a team.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
It's exactly.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Oh, Portland might be it.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Chill out on Portland is nice.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Portland's nice in the summer for like two months, but.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
It rains every day. Cam the city is two months.
You're talking about around Portland. I got you around.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Portland, but the city of They're probably not gonna live
in downtown Portland.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
The crazy thing, the crazy thing about that ain't gonna lie.
Memphis probably is the worst NBA city. The fact that
you get ribbed walking across the street back to the hotel,
it's insane.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
That is prey crazy.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Come on, bro, Like during the playoffs, niggas got people
got robbed.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Remember that.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
How does that?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
How does that even take that back? It is Memphis.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
The Memphis is the trenches and everybody know that.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
But like I said, they got good they got good food,
good food.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
The people, the people there are pretty authentic. I will
say that a lot of a lot that lots of people, so.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Don't mess with them. They won't mess with you.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
It's like worst city makes it sounds so bad like
you we don't funk with the people and ship like
it's just because niggas be tripped like it is the Trenches.
Yea a franchise organization where it's supposed to be a
family friendly game that we go to.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
You want to hear.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
If you want to hear how Memphis is, go to
my podcast rain Raised podcast and.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Listen to that young talk about it. He would give you.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
He would give you a summary of what Memphis is
like and then you understand where we're coming from Yeah,
there's nothing, there's nothing more you need to be said.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
I wish I could tell the story of the story
I had in Memphis.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
It's dark.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, I mean listen, I gotta talk to t A
about it to get his permission. But that was crazy light.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Will let t tell it?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:30):
How y'all feel about these tweets?

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Me? I mean John alone want to be saying that
ship though?

Speaker 6 (37:43):
Maybe if what's uh? If j JJ said that ship,
then cool? But like John, nigga, we know you like nigga.
That doesn't help.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
What's the tweet saying again, don't cry for me when
the war is over?

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (37:56):
John said he slides on every nigga saying it about Memphis.
That's all I read.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
Hey, listen that that interview comes came around full circle.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Didn't you talk about good in the West? Got real spooky?

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah, real spooky. Quickly for everybody. We're gonna be playing
next week, so make sure y'all get signed up.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Take a couple of pactice rounds to.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Field sucks at the game, bro trash. I'm I'm booty
at the game too, so I can't really talk.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I tried it.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I was like this is.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
But listen, if you get some bread, Listen, we're gonna
lock in. We're We're not gonna be trash on air.
That's gonna be crazy being trash on No, no, no, no, listen,
You're gonna try all you want im.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
No, not happening.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I played like I played the game like ten times
and yeah, I'm not good at it. But however, also
said they were gonna be good in the West.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
When we talk, we won't get enough ship for fucking
Devin Booker the niggas.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Do you remember when he.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Did the interview was it with Taylor Rooks when he
was like, he's y'all good in the Wist? He was like,
we're fine. How you gonna guard us? We're good in
the West. How you gonna guard us?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Was that prior to Katie or before.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
When they got KD.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
That's when they got k D and the nas got
swept and then the next year the niggas that make
the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Oh yeah that is true.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
Yeah, he said, bro, that' Stell's classmates. Yeah, we don't.
We don't give them book enough about that. We give
y'all a lot of ship about that. But they made
it farther than than he did.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Oh what, I got to see the clip and I
got to see it, feels like because y'all was a
little arrogant with it, though.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
So different then book was er they got.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Said I didn't see the clips, so I don't know.
Because if it was more like, yeah, you know, I
don't know how you're gonna stop us, so I think
we will be good, that's a different conversation. But if you
because John Rant is like, I ain't worried about nobody,
and then.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Hell a little smirkle stace. He was like, I don't
know how niggas gonna cry.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
I mean, Mike on that NASA shout out to you
and the carry that basically said Taylor Rooks had him
hypnotizing his head.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
That was too, hey, look that's crazy. I'm gonna start
lining to he put me in aroom with Taylor Rooks.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
You know, guys may just got extended.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah yeah, man, he is not New York.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
He will in the address. He's come up, crazy, bro,
they did you dirty in Boston. Look we look in Texas.
In Texas, we wore real niggas. So I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Say shut out to the Dirk and his birthday many
today's Dirks birthday shout out to Dirk his birthday on Man,
I'm trying to tell y'all, I'm trying to tell.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
You, Yeah he good in the hood. Any Yeah, he
good in the hood.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
You shout out to Dirk. Bro that's a Dallas legend.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Shut my goat.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
But can somebody tell you on the chat that's what
it takes to get a fucking statue, not fucking one
ring in six months?

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Hey, let me ask you this did y'alls on the
ring stuff?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
What did he do? What you said?

Speaker 4 (41:44):
He said he was talking about ring?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Oh yes, no, no, no, Lebron's on some bullshit. I'm
gonna tell you why. Because one ring made one ring
made him the greatest player of all time. But now
you want to say rings on't fucking matter. Now, funk
that ship that pissed me off?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Lebron said, Ring culture is bullshit basically because because you
want one ring, you can't be in the conversation with
these people. Basically, it's like Steve Nash can't be in
the conversation, Charles can't be in the conversation because they
didn't win a ring. But then he wants to go
and say, because I won the twenty sixteenth ring, it
makes me the greatest.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Of all time.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
So a ring propelled your legacy, but it can't take
away from anybody's legacy.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Okay, bro, I it was a weird comment because.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
The narrative exactly. Listen, let me finish my run at
the end of the day. This is what I'm talking about,
which I was talking with Charlie the other day. Michael's
legacy is added because of the rings. You can be
a great player, but your legacy is building with rings.
Your legacy is built with moments.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
When Lebron when when Michael wanted the flu game that
it was another moment when he was sick out of
this whatever, well, what do you want to call it,
the stomach bug game? Whatever? He had food poisoning. The
guy built his legacy because he was Any other normal
human would not be able to do what he did.
So that's why we add to his legacy. So I

(43:11):
need to stop hearing about this shit about how rings
don't matter. They matter.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
They're not the only thing that matters, but they matter.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Everybody at this table, everybody in this chat, added to
Steph Curry's legacy when he want his twenty two rings.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
So why are we taking away from rings? We need
to not.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Roll only rings, as the conversation, But they do fucking matter.
I'm so sick of this shit.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, they fucking matter.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
I agree with one part of what he said. I
agree with him saying that, hey, yes we don't need
to diminish these guys' careers because they never want a ring. Yes,
it is still a team award. But as Honk just said,
that shit does matter.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I'm not good.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Like we talk about Tracy McGrady, talk about Grant Hill,
we talk about all these other great wings, right, we
talk about AI and they are not in the same
realm as Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, all of them.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
They're in a different tier. Y'all earn that shocking them?

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Tim Duncan a king yo, kid like, even though they're
in a different tier because they got to a level
those guys didn't get to and wanted.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
There has to be something to make you the best.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Bron.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
You came back from three to one in the finals.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
That matter. Part of that matters. You should Bron was
lying for his homeboy. That's all he was doing.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
Bro Nat right in front of He's just trying to
make Steve.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
No, he was trying to minimize the six chips. Let's
keep that of staff.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Honestly, it might be, it might be a little bit
of both, like Cam say, but at the end of
the day, that does matter, right, like it does matter.
It does like we can't put Chris Paul, and Chris
Paul is my guy.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
It's gonna be hard to put.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Chris Paul in the round with Magic Johnson and fuck,
what's another Isaiah, Tom and Steph.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
He's a great he's.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Tier below that, but he's not at those guys level
because he ain't want the chip.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
And I think any competitor would say the same thing,
because at the end of the day, no one's saying
you're not nice. But those guys are a little bit
different level because they got there now. I think it
does matter when you want it now. If you want
it by just going to a team and you didn't
play and then they want it, that's a little different.

(45:46):
If you still like one of the main guys, even
if like you're six man, but.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
You play starters minutes.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
You earned that right, all right, Beck, Yeah, you went
to go get your ring boom boom boom, and you're.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Up there with those guys.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
But I think you have to have those things to
separate guys from the others.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
That's ultimately why Jordan is. People still have Jordan as
the best.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
The motherfucking never lost in the finals. It could have stopped,
came back and started winning. He won three more in
a row.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
That shit matters. The problem. I don't care what nobody god,
go ahead home.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I think the problem is that uneducated basketball fans use
it too much. It is when we're nitpicking, like between
Tracy McGrady arguably the great one of the greatest scores
in the the last twenty years, to someone like d Wade.
That's what elevates d Wade because we're talking about marginal things.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
When Bally won that championship, that's what made his legs
even greater. So it's like, we can't use it as
the end all be all because then we're gonna have
Robert Orio above fucking all these guys. But Robert Orio
was a very good player in his day. But we
just can't use it as the only metric should be
we have to be talking apples to apples, and the
ring is what puts a cherry on top. But I'm
just so sick of hearing this bullshit brings no matter

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why the fun play. Did you play basketball? Let's talk
about it.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
Let's just be honest though. Let's just be honest though,
and this is this is just my opinion. We look
at Lebron James and d Wade as one of the
greats because they also did it with them being the
main Like Lebron's always the main guy, you know what
I'm saying, Like Lebron's championships, he was the guy.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
They're not winning that ship without Lebron James.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
I don't give a nobody say, like you saw what
they were when when he left. But if d Wade
doesn't get that championship with Shack against Dallas, are.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
We looking at d Wade the same way?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Hell?

Speaker 6 (47:47):
I don't know, no way, because then I would say this,
if if he didn't get that ring, I say he'd
be over him.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
The debate between Harden and d Way will be a
lot closer.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
There's no debate because of d Wade because what it
has nothing in this Miami because of the how he
what did he have thirty a game from game thirty
six three on? No, I'm talking from game three on.
He was just dropping thirty thirty balls. It was it
was thirty six. Yeah, he is like, we can't talk
about it, like we we seriously can't. Bro It doesn't

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mean that James Harden is not a great player. We're
not gonna disrespect James Harden. He's one of the He
might be the most most potent offensive one man offense ever.
We saw what he did when he was averaging fifty
for a month and having eight twelve fifteen assists. But
what the what d Way did adds to his legacy, man,
And that's all I'm talking about. You saying both the

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fast is the fastest alive. If he doesn't win a
gold medal, just has the fastest world record and the
race that didn't matter. Winning in the biggest moments matter.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
That's where it comes to.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
And I'm gonna be honest with you. Until Steph really
wanted twenty twenty two, people were still like, we need
Steph to beat a guy in one.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
And when he went and win one, I didn't have
him he did in the same tier as Magic until
that ring.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Yeah, and when he do there's nothing, there's nothing. There
was nothing you.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Can say about Steph anymore. Nothing.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
Yeah, because he went through adversity, he was down to
one to Boston going back and was in Boston for
Game four and put the team on his back. And
then when it beat Boston and that sous that's last.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Game, y'all. Y'all winning in game three?

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it was. It was it was curtains,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
That solidified We're and think about that as as fans
and as people watching the game.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
It took him to do that.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
After he already had three for us to be like,
now you can actual Lebrony.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Now you're in that team.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
And that's that's it. It doesn't mean he's better. It
doesn't mean it doesn't mean Alan Iverson wasn't a better
like he wasn't more skilled. It just means your career
and legacy is greater than someone that doesn't have those things.
We're not gonna sit here and say that Jalen Brown,
at least I will is a better player than Tracy McGrady,
because I don't believe that. But because he had a
better career and a better uh uh has more achievements.

(50:27):
Yeah that's fair. Yeah, so that adds his NBA player.
But I'm not gonna sit here say skill for skill,
if I put them in their prime, he's a better player.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
That's not the conversation we're having. We're talking about.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
If you if you ask any NBA player, there's always
a guy.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
That no one in their right mind knows who the
fuck they are. And we could be like, if he
didn't do some funck shit when he was younger, he
would have been an NBA player. If he didn't do
some function when he was in college, he's an NBA player.
He would have been nice. Everybody has somebody like that.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
That doesn't mean, that doesn't mean I mean, like I've
said this before.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
When I was Harry Giles was like three years younger
than me. When the motherfucker was a freshman, he was
better than me. I never said that about anybody. When
he came back from his injury to his I think
it was a sophomore freshman, I can't even remember. He
was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
I was like this motherfucker is cold.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
Like at that age in high school, and you know,
everybody felt like they demanded in high school, Harry Giles
was a guy like I will defer.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
To him because he has a mismatch every single night.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
And I think in those situations, guys got the people
need to understand. And the only thing I didn't agree
with Bron is just like, look, rings do matter.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
You know that.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
That's why you had to go get what you got.
You knew you had to win one and fucking Miami,
you had to win multiple in Miami. You had to
win one in Cleveland because you didn't win one and
you left you win when you came back and did that,
and you know you had to go to Lakers and
win one, and you did that.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
You done it.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Bro You good, well you feel that's a great point.
Why would you leave it? Rings don't matter? Why didn't
you just stay in Cleveland?

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Bro Ye, he knew, he knew, he knows, he knows.
That's why I said. It's a little bit of both.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
It's a little bit of.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Having Steve Nash being in front of him and making
sure he gets his flowers. That's cool, But at the
end of the day, I don't know if you could
sit in front of Steve Nash like, well, Steve, but
you don't got no rings. You're not gonna say that,
you know what I'm saying. That's your co host, So
of course you're gonna sit there. That's the homie. You're
not gonna sit there and bash his head in or

(52:41):
be like, yeah, it was you had to get some
rings to But my thing is, do you you should
ask Steve? Like Steve, do you he might have I
didn't watch the ship like Steve, do you feel like
you are not in the same tier because you haven't
gotten the rings?

Speaker 4 (52:56):
And just hear what he say?

Speaker 5 (53:00):
Like, I'm really like, I honestly might ask that from
now on in my pot. Do you think rings matter
as far as being at a certain tier.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
I don't know anybody that played basketball to lose, so
you're telling me.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
The fact.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Anyways, I know you gotta get out of here THEO.
So let's get to the last thing I'm gonna play,
click quickly, m.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Ship.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
What y'all think about that man? What y'all think about
the Caitlyn Clark hating man? It's getting out of hand.
In mind, it's getting it's getting over broot.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Kaitlyn clark Man. She really is the m J at
this w n b A ship.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
I don't know why I use it, by the way,
but ship whatever, it will be cool.

Speaker 6 (53:55):
Go ahead, camp, No, no, you cause I was gonna
actually pivot something else.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
I'm not gonna hold you. Bro. She really might be
the Michael Jordan of w n B A.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
No, it's not even a mic. She is. Like they're
proven it every day. The worse it gets, the better
it's proven.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
The point that she is, Bro, she bro for our
own eyes in our generation, Like we saw Mike, but
we didn't really see Mike.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Well I didn't, you.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Did, I didn't, seem like, no, I didn't. I barely
saw that.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
You didn't either, you barely. The fact that we're seeing.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Saw the real go stop that broke here you go.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
The fact that we're seeing someone literally transcend a whole league.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Like this is like this is where it gets different,
where they have to understand you have to protect her
at all costs.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Now, hold that hold that thought.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah I like that.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
Yeah, that's that's no cat. No, Bro, that's why they
brought her there. She's a crash out and she will.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
She will she tried to need her.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Yes, Bro, she's a crash out crazy. Yeah, she's a
crash out. I don't know what's easy.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yeah, shout out to her.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
But she uh. I'm not saying you sous to pamper
her and not touch her. But I don't mind the
altercations or whatever. But as far as like understanding, like
she's the brown of our generator, Like she's like you
gotta you gotta understand. You will call They're gonna call her, Caitlyn.

(55:50):
What you think about this, Kaitlyn?

Speaker 4 (55:51):
What you think about that? That that opinion matters.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
If she tweets something and says she likes some guess
how much more that thing is going to increase? They
they're able to expand because Caitlyn Park came into the
w n B. A.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Hey, if if you're an if you're a w n
B A player, don't you just want to go play
with Kaitlin because your brand automatically elevates. Bro, Sophie's fall
has got probably gone insane since she joined the Fever.
Let's just be honest.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Oh, it's been stupid nowhere.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
I don't know, man, Like it's hurt.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Her and Leah Boston. But they're not They're not going nowhere.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Yeah they're good. Hey, it's crazy Page is hooping. You
don't even hear about Page. She's the team sucks, but.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
She's and and then you think about the only person
that will be close to Caitlyn, Juju, maybe get close.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
It's Juju.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
No, she won't.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Juju don't have the game. Bro, it's the flash of
Caitlin Bro.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Well, Juju got the game.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
I mean, like, sorry, I talked about she got the game,
like she can play, but I'm talking about the flashy
game like Juju's very like get to my spots and
get my buckets pages like, she just don't have the
I'm pulling off from thirty feet, put through on the hedge.
You give me a little space, you give me a
little daylight. I'm I'm I'm pulling. So Juju has the game,

(57:30):
but she doesn't have the appeal that Kaitlyn. I don't
think there will be anybody like Caln. This is my
point opinion. There's no staff, there's not another stuff.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Yeah, yeah, she's she's she's Steph, but it's Michael Jordan's
es for them for the w NBA.

Speaker 6 (57:48):
Yeah, so we're quick have you did y'all see that
video with Kelsey Plumb not trying to.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
About that.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
I thought that was, well, there's two things. I'll give
you something. You guys say so A. I mean, if
you if you want the attention and you want more money.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
That's the point I was making.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
But the but the flip side of it is, I
think it's just a card seller that wanted her autograph.

Speaker 6 (58:14):
I mean, but either way that's does that not still
help your visitors what they do, what they want to do.
It's marketing, like you could choose to do it, you
could choose not to do it. But like this is
my thing, I guess it's something they're not used to.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
Uh But like I said, for NBA players, like I said,
I play, we could get in at three o'clock in
the morning. The motherfuckers standing right out there.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
You know what I'm saying. Like at that.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Point, if you're willing to stand out there the three
o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
All right, fuck it, bro, you rarely want this thing
signed that bad.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Here bo like to go and tell somebody that're weird, y'all,
don't think it's kind of out. Like I said, we
don't know the whole context. They might have been out
there a couple of times. They might have if they
said some fucked up weird stuff, that's different. But they're
just standing out there, and I don't know. There has

(59:14):
to be a little bit more to come out about that.
But from what we saw, that's normal. We've seen that
multiple times. Bro, I'm in Puerto Rico. There was somebody
outside sitting next to the chicken asking me for my autograph,
like yo, Like they literally waited there until I got
there to sign, to sign a card of me. How

(59:36):
I'm gonna be like, Yo, you're fucking weird because you're
in Puerto Rico asked me for autographs?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yeah, But but I think the flip side of it
is like she probably knows they're just trying to trade
her cards, so she's probably no, I don't want to
sign you. Like you know what I'm saying, I all
know that your card.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
That's like if you had, if you had actual FA
you ain't gonna mind signing at three am. Like if
you had people that said, Yo, I've been watching you
since your U and see now you're in Puerto Rico,
I get a chance to watch you play. Yeah you cool,
but like you just trying to make bread off my signature,
So it's like, why do I want to sign I
get both sides of it, Like you want the attention,

(01:00:17):
so you got to accept it. But it's like in
that specific case, as we don't know, and it looked
like you just had a bunch of trading cards, so
I can see them being like, all you do want
me to sign is to make money, So aren't you
weird waiting outside of the hotel. But that's my thoughts
on it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
A knocking a nigga, knocking that nigga hustle, Like I said,
I it's not like I've I'm not gonna sit here
at like I've never said no or walk by somebody
who was doing that because you just be ready to
go to the room.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
But like stopping and telling them.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
They're weird is crazy because like keep walking.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Her tea, her teammate right in front of her, kept walking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Uh, that's it for the show. Deals gotta run and
any last words any predictions before we signed up, gentlemen are.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
The Night Game seven? Uh, tune in Sunday. Hopefully them
boys could get it there something can.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
Watch Adam Silver making a call. Scott Foster will be
there tonight. It will go game Scott Foster tonight. Oh,
I'm just saying that. Probably I think he is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
No Scott Foster tonight. Thunder by a million. That's the
first two I want to tip to Scott Foster.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Uh, no extender. Sad, but looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
I need actually want the Pacers to win.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
By the way, guys, and you know it's no wife.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
I mean too, I won't be shocked they lose, but
I just think because okay, see, I think we said okay,
see in six.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I think we did say that, but I want them
to go seven.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Hey, by the way, before we signed out, did y'all
see what Chase Dad said the Jeff te Nope, y'all
didn't see that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Jeff Teek says he was shooting blanks and he said,
I'll breed your girl for you. Don't worry. I got
good jeans. I make MVPs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
It was insane, Yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I sent it to the Okay, i'll send it to you,
but it wasn't the same.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
We appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
See y'all, we'll see one day happy to black people.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Yeah, happy Jue Team Jesus Christ