February 11, 2025 • 45 mins
Daniel sits for dog trainer Kassidy to learn about positive reinforcement, overcrowded shelters, and how she rescued over 100 dogs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How many dogs have you found homes for in your life?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Not one hundred?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, cash show, cash show to show. Hey everybody, it's
Tosh Show Tuesday. Who Eddie? How are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm great? How long did it take you to get
here today?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hour and a half hour?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
For this is the first day that you came here
to Malibu via the Pacific Coast Highway the PCH after
the fires closed. How traumatic was it? It's different.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's sad.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You don't want to go though, don't you know? You
said you haven't done it yet, right I don't. I don't.
I don't drive through the burn areas right now, but
I will. I would like to point out I'm not
saying that that that I put a mouth on it
and caused all of this. But remember when I said
the fix to making PCH safer was to slow the
speed limit down considerably, right and not allow people to
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park on the side of the highway. Well, currently the PCH,
the speed of them has been dropped to twenty five
miles an hour. You were not allowed to park anywhere
on the side. And guess what zero deaths? Yep, so
I guess. I mean it seems odd that I would
want this in this current moment. But you're welcome. By
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the way, the wildfires and rightfully so, have have gotten
tons of global coverage. You know, they always talk about, well,
what's important is life, and you don't want people to
die so that all the other stuff can be replaced.
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And then we had another tragedy in DC with that
flight that collided with the helicopter and sixty seven people
were killed. I mean, I'm just pointing out that in
the fires, twenty nine people were killed global coverage twice
as many people killed on American Eagle flight. It's less,
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And I'm just saying one of those was life and
the other is about a lot of stuff. The point
that I'm making here is that we do care about stuff.
We don't care about people as much as we should.
WHOA wasn't ready for that heavy take on Toss show.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I mean, you gave up on stuff a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh man, you've been out. I got a lot of stuff.
I gotta get rid of it. And even bigger news.
Luca to the Lakers. Well, As a life long Laker hater,
this couldn't be more perfect for me. Oh is he
easy to hate? Are you telling me. For the next decade,
I get to watch him go like this after every
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non call, Oh who fouled? Look at my fat, pasty body.
You can see the marks. And as a twofer, you
know it also knocks down a few more people in
the pecking order of Laker Great, you have Lebron and
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you're gonna have Luca. He had Shack, Kareem Magic, James Worthy,
and then Kobe Wow. He pushes him out, Kobe getting
knocked all the way down. I'll take your comments off air.
I don't know he Luca. They say he just couldn't
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stay in shape, and now he's going to the Lakers
where a forty year old Lebron James spends one million dollars.
Who's this a physical therapist, doctor evil one million dollars
a year to keep Lebron at forty in top physical condition.
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Luca famously, during the off season, I'm told has two
dozen Slovenian sausages a day. That's his regiment. You don't
want to guard a man that's had a couple dozen
Slovenian sausages sweating out the pores. That's not good out there.
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Oh you don't, you don't want to press up against him.
It's slippery, and you need to be slippery when you
got a six inch vertical. Oh and guess what, you
won't believe this. I have another poop story we gotta start.
It has a sting for these Now, all right, let's
create a sting for the poop stories. Poop story number
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three hundred and forty one. I feel like, because I
talk about it, that more and more poop related things
are entering my life. Now, I've told you in the
past that my beloved Carl has occasionally in the poop cuisine.
He's he's had one of my daughter's turds a time
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or two. Well, as you know, I bought a pig.
I didn't, but the wife and her cousin but did.
And this pig, when he was brought into our lives
at a I think at eight weeks old, was seven pounds. Okay,
now we're at four months in he's currently twenty five pounds,
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and oh my goodness, we'll eat any dog poop that's
in the yard. So I'm like, now, whenever my dogs go,
everyone has the strict instructions to quickly bag it before
potato gets it. Okay, Well, the other day, I have
a pile of these bagged dog droppings that I save
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for the gardener to get rid of. Well, potato found
that that area ripped into the bags. There's probably ten
fifteen bags. Each bag probably two to five poops. That's
how I do it. You know, you pick one or
two or three up, depends how small they are when
you're cleaning up the yard. My educated guess is he
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probably ate, you know, his body weighting poop. So now
I have to like bag it and get rid of
it and put it into the trash can. It's all.
It's a lot of work. By the way, this pig
still sleeps in my bedroom. Cutest thing in the world.
I'm pretty sure this is how Ava, my old dog,
is going to die because she her weight is less
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and less. She's probably eight or nine pounds now. She
sleeps into her dog bed and then the twenty five
pound pig crawls on top of her and basically suffocates
her all night long, and she tends to love it.
They constantly are spooning. I got a photo of her
putting her little paw over the top the pig. They
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just they sleep together constantly. By the way, he doesn't.
Sometimes he didn't even wait for the dogs to go poop.
I've caught him going up to Ava while she was
napping and just eating from the tap just to come on. Yeah,
I couldn't believe it. But Data's eating ass like he's
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like he's some kind of Mormon with the poop hole loophole.
It's unacceptable. I don't I should ask today's guest how
to fix uh the pig pooping problem, but they're gonna
say the same thing. Would just make sure you pick
it all up. Well, okay, but now I have to
like follow multiple pets around and oh no, they went
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to the bathroom quick before hungry hungry Potato gets over here.
Enjoy Casha. If there is a heaven, my guest today
would get in without a problem. She's read over one
hundred dogs from being euthanized and now Train's pooch is
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full time right here in Los Angeles. She's a real
treat to have on today's show. Please welcome Cassidy.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That was great, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Thank you for being here, Thanks for having me. Do
you believe in ghost.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I believe in spirit guide? So is that the same thing?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yes? Okay, and yes, do you believe in dog ghosts. Yeah,
so like every species on the planet has their own
ghost after death.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't know. I go back and forth. Sometimes I
think some things reincarnate into something else and other things
stay as ghosts.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Good to know.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I feel like that we'll figuring it out.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, you let me know when you get there. Well
where are you originally from?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I am from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
How long did you live there?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I lived there until I was eighteen, and then I
moved to Duluth, Minnesota, where I went to college and
stayed a few years after very cold.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
One of my screen savers on an old computer or
was my dog? I was walking on a pier with
a little tiny lighthouse at the end of it, and
that was in Duluth.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You've been to Duluth.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Sure, how else would that story be relevant? I don't
know if you photoshopped your dogs into no one's photoshopping Duluth.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's very true. Duluth is so beautiful. I always say
it's a hidden gem of the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
The little lighthouse of course in Canal Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
A little lighthouse, ah man, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Do you go, But do you still have family in Tulsa.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I do, all my whole families in Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Tulsa, I mean just a real awful town. True or false.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
True, I don't love it. I think everyone said it's
up and coming. It feel like it's behind. Tulsa is up,
and everyone there said it's up and coming. I still
think it's ten fifteen years behind.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
There used to be a crappy comedy club that I
worked as a young comedian Tulsa, and it was a
jay it was. It shared a building with a nightclub.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It's probably still there well.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And the nightclub, who at the time was played a
lot of heavy bass hip hop music and and it
was just funny because I'd be performing and you just
hear bass coming through the walls and I was like,
this is not good.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I haven't been because I was eighteen when I left,
so I've never really gone out in Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, sure, this this is way before your time.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It might still be there, though.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Favorite college football team, Sooners. I didn't know if you
were like, you don't care at all, but you.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I mean, I don't watch it, but sure, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
My favorite Sooners game was what that game. It was
like a couple of years ago, maybe it was longer.
Where the after they scored that the trailer flipped over
and the girl flew out. The horses were just dragging
her around.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yep, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That was the delightful. That was delightful. So you finished
in Duluth?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
What did you study communications?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
With dogs?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
No? No, no, they do have degrees for that kind
of stuff. Now, I don't know. I've heard of it.
I haven't endeavored.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, so you had a degree in communications. I used
to tell people I had a minor in communications, but
I don't think I did.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I think it just lied about it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Why did I did you have a major?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah? I had a degree in marketing.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think they're very similar. There's a lot of overlap.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I'm sure I had classes in communications, but didn't. All right,
So what was your big plan when you were in college.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I did not have one. My plan was to get
out of college as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That was my plan. Yeah, So did you finish early?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes? I graduated at twenty and a full year early.
It was a full year early, and I didn't really
know what I wanted to do. I was waiting tables
at the time, and I just kind of stayed in
Duluth waiting tables, and and I guess the way I
got into dogs, I kind of went I call it
the rescue rabbit hole. You kind of spiral when you
get into the rescue world I found for me at least,
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and I basically saw a disconnect where I'm from. In Tulsa,
dogs are buy one, get one from the shelter, and
they're like ten dollars, and there's just a ton of straits,
kind of like southern California, so they're being euthanized a lot.
And then I would take them to Minnesota to be adopted,
where dogs cost way more to adopt.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So real quick, dogs aren't euthanized in southern California.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah they are. Yeah, there's a lot of overcrowding in
the shelters, especially in like Bakersfield.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And Okay, I don't know, we'll get into it whether
I consider bakers Field Southern California, but share enough. So
you started illegally, yes, adopting dogs in Tulsa, bringing them
up to Minnesota, the great folks of Minnesota, Yes, and
charging them seven hundred bucks per week.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So I did not charge. I only charged what I
to cover the expenses, and to be honest, most time
I never collected.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So you were just rescuing dogs?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Did you ever see that real depressing movie with what's
her name? Who? That's how I talk about people because
I never know actors' names from SNL and she what
was her name? She's one of that smelled her armpits
Molly Shannon and then she just went on this. God
just her life just became about helping rescue dogs. And
then the end of it, it's just like her happy
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kind of It's just depressing the whole movie. And she
has thousands of dogs with her.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Was she happy with the thousands of dogs?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
What's the name of this movie? Year of the Dog?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
No, I haven't seen it. One thing about me is
I haven't seen a lot of movies.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
There's no nobody has seen this movie. Yeah, they're all
freaking out right back there that I pulled this movie
from a rolodex of randomness that I've seen out. It
might be your life story.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I hope it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
To be honest, it was depressing.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I hope it's not my life story.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Have you ever smelled jarm pits.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Don't we all doing yoga? I don't know laying there?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
No, I don't do yoga.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Do you ever lay like this? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yes, if it's ripe, I call in. I call in
the wife immediately. What is she doing? I got a
good one. She's like, what, I might smell this, and
she's like, ah, you know that's what. It's what we do.
Smells are my thing. I like smells foul and otherwise
say what you will. I don't care. Judge me. How
many back and forth did you do from Tulsa to Duluth.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'd have to I have not counted. I'd have to
look at my archives a dozen. Probably. It got to
a point where I would just do it, like I
would come home for Thanksgiving. Because I didn't tell my
parents I was doing this. They don't want them to worry.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It was at first it was like, you know, like
a drug mule, but with pooches.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, and I would I've break it up in the days.
Sometimes we'd sneak into a motel in Iowa. Who's we
me and the docks, Okay, me and myself and the dog, and.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Then we can bring this stuff up on a chance.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
No, I actually don't talk about it. To be honest,
I just started talking about it again. I got to
a point where they started driving the dogs. They would
drive them to Iowa, or they would drive them to Wisconsin. Folks,
no the rescue, sorry, like people from the shelter. So
there's people who commit their whole lives to transporting these
dogs across the country. It's insane, but they'll basically load
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up a huge sprinter van of like fifty dogs creates
stacked on top of each other, and they drive them
across the country to go to northern shelters where there's
not there's more demand.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Is Tulsa so littered with stray dogs?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I have theories it's I think it's just the South, because.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You consider Tulsa the South.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, but it's warmer climates, so it's warm enough for
animals to survive in so a lot of people if
they are in between getting rid of their dog, there's
no one to take the dog. They can either dump
the dog or take them to a shelter, and they're
probably gonna be uthanized at the shelter. Then they're just
gonna dump the dog because then that dog can at
least go and live their life in nature, and then
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if they're not, say and neuter, then they pro create,
and then we have a plethora of dogs. Whereas in
the North, if you were faced with the same concept
or the same problem dilemma, you wouldn't dump your dog
because you know that dog would just freeze to death
and that would just be wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I grew up always having dogs. Okay, but you're not
gonna like the story. That's okay, okay, but I'm a
huge dog advocate now. But when my parents moved constantly,
and whenever we moved, my dad just got rid of
our dog, like the dog didn't come with us.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's very common.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And I was always like, I never even thought to
be well, why wouldn't we just bring our dog. He's like,
you don't. You're not going to bring a Saint Bernard
to Florida. And I'm like, well, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's not terrible though, I.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Know, but like, let me tell you, it wasn't like
he went and sought out a good family. It was
just the dog just is gone. Yeah, well that was
that's one scenario. One time, my rabbit, my mom's like, well,
we're moving, you can't bring your rabbit. I'm like, well,
why can't I There wasn't even a conversation.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's so sad. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, listen, a lot of this stuff is the issues
that you see before you but now, I mean, good grief.
I get so attached to it. Never and I don't
even care about the pain that I go through when
one of them dies, I just keep doing it. I'm like, whatever, Yeah,
here we go again.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, it's pretty excruciating.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh it's rough.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So, for example, when COVID hit, it was all the
shelters in Minnesota were emptied because people were staying at
home and they had time to go faster at all.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Their whole country almost got rid of all of our
sheltered dogs.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
During the Closa, the problem doubled because people were thinking
that their dogs were going to give them COVID.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh see, okay, so there's just I don't even know
about those people.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It got really bad in Tulsa around that time. And
also not even just that, but then people couldn't they
got laid off, they couldn't afford their dog, they couldn't
afford another mouth to feed, so then they would dump
their dog because they didn't have a job. So I
think it's a I do think that if people's needs
were met, then they wouldn't need to get rid of
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their dogs when times got.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Hard, you know, a rabbit hole. I used to go down,
what I don't do it anymore, but I used to
go down adopting children. You'd like, look into foster kids
and you'd see these videos that they make of themselves,
and they're cute and they're doing the big song and
dance like I'm great, come on, give me a home.
And I would just tear me apart. But I'd watch
these videos. But then what happened was years would go
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by and I'd see the same kids four years later,
like me and my sister, still looking for a family,
and it was just it's just heartbreak.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
That would be horrible.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh, it's horrible. So to see them age.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
That's at twenty. I wasn't ready for that. So I
went to the dog route.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You went to the dog route? Yeah, what does redlisted
mean for a shelter dog?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Euthanasia listed? So that means that they'll say this dog
is redlisted for two pm, and that means that they
will be euthanizes at two pm. Yeah. I don't follow
those pages. Anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
No, Oh, I try not to, and like, what do
you do hustle down there?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yes? Or people are posting they're pledging money, money that's
never collected because you can just comment on Instagram and
say I pledged fifty dollars and then someone's like, great,
I grabbed the dog. Where's that fifty dollars to help
with the dog? Got it for medical bills? And then
you don't hear from them.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
How many dogs have you found homes for in your life?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
About one hundred?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And how many dogs have you fostered?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Probably over one hundred. I think I stopped counting at
like forty because I was just like, you.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Rename those foster dogs or no, I'll name them.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Sometimes I'll keep their shelter names. Sometimes they just have
a kennel code name, like a number. It'll be like
a one zero, three, seven, two nine.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And when did you make the voyage out west?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I came out West three years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
What do your parents say when someone in Oklahoma ask
what you're up to these days?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
That's a good one, my dad goes. My dad says, well,
Cassidy's our free spirit child. She's out in California living
with the Manson Crew.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The shoe fits yep.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
And people don't train dogs in Oklahoma especially, so this
career doesn't really exist there as much, so they don't
really understand it or see it as a career.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
When did you start going to prisons?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I started going two years.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Ago, and explain to me what you do there.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So the Positive Change Program is a programmer in by
Marley's Mutts Rescue in Ta Hatchipee, and they pair dogs
who would otherwise be euthanized with people living in prison,
and then the people the inmates, train the dogs, and
then the dog become adopted.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It sounds great. Now. If you were to give me
the choice death or prison, I'm not sure which one
I would take.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Is it only male prisons?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I've done a women's prison and right now I'm a
part of two male prisons.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You have to bring cats to the women's prisons? Yeah,
doesn't seem like that would be the right scenario. Would
do you fuck with cats?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I like cats. I don't know anything about training cats.
People ask me that a lot, no idea. I like cats, though.
I think more people should get cats, because I think
more people want something that can just cuddle them on
their couch and then stay home all day while they leave.
You get You have so much more freedom when you
have a cat versus when you have a dog. Dog
is a lot of responsibility, and I just don't think
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a lot of people realize that it's true. My parents
tried to lecture me on that, and I was like, yeah, yeah,
I know we had dogs growing up, but I didn't
realize how much my mom did for our dogs.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Was your first experience with professional dog training in a prison?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
No, Okay, nope. I had a couple of mentors that
I worked under for a little bit. To be honest,
I kind of started doing it. So had I not
left Minnesota, I arguably created the perfect business plan for
myself because I brought all of these rescue dogs to
Minnesota and now all those dogs need training. So I
kind of created a problem that I then became a
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trainer and could have had the solution for. But I
left to come to California to learn more from other trainers.
But I do still keep in touch with a lot
of them and they'll call me with training questions. So
I kind of started doing it really just to keep
these dogs out of my house. And get them adopted
and successfully. I was like, if you want to adopt
this dog, this is the best way to transition them
into your house. So I would help them with that,
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and then a lot of people told me like kind
of pushed me and encouraged me to start trying to
do this professionally, and ultimately I wanted to do the
Positive Change program. That was a huge very early in
my rescuing days, when I was struggling with law biting
other dogs, I found the Positive Change Program on social
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media and then I found trainers through there and clicked
on trainers they would share, and I just kind of
went down this journey of trying these different methods and
applying what worked and teaching it to other people.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Your services cost us and you better. You should probably
say a higher number than normal.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Just so I'm building. I'm getting my website launched right now,
so I've just changed kind of what I'm offering my services.
My private lessons are two fifty an hour for a
private lesson. I offer daily training, which is four days
a week, so I'll come to your house for an
hour a day, four days a week, and that is
six hundred a week.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
For now, do I have to be present for that.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
No, you do have to be present for one. So
every Friday you have to be there.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
We're going to hang out with you for an hour.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, every we can practice over the weekend. Because this
is what's so hard, is that I'm not like selling
you this mug and charging you and then you're like, great,
I love the mug. It really it's kind of like
if you hired a personal trainer because you wanted to
get fit, but then you didn't do any of the work,
then you're not going to see the results you want.
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But then that reflects for some reason, when it comes
to dog training, people don't put that together necessarily, and
then that reflects on me being a shitty dog trainer
because you didn't practice anything I taught you.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I agree. I agree with what you're saying. Like I
look at all the things that I refuse to do.
It's always like, you know, mental health, I won't see anybody,
won't talk to anybody, trainer, won't do it. It's just
I just want to avoid those interactions. Yet anything else where,
it's something like I could I could clean my deck.
(24:45):
I refuse to that. I would hire somebody for but
I would never all the things that are important to
make you a better person, to make people around you happier.
And I'm like, nope, my couples, there up no.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
A lot of people don't hire a dog trainer until
their dog. I didn't do you do anything training wise until
Lonna was attacking other dogs, And then I was.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Like, ooh, if someone couldn't afford your services, what advice
would you give them for trying to train their own dog.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
There is so much free content out there, and it
can be really confusing and overwhelming to people because there's
such differing philosophies when it comes to training. I would say,
just try it, try something, stick with it for a
little bit. If it doesn't work, try something else.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Do reward based systems work long term?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
They can kind of, but then at some point, like
you're not going to have a treat on you, so
you have to figure something else out.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, right, But rewards don't have to be a treat.
Rewards can be affection.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
That's all I do. I always I just reach in
my pocket, like I have a treat.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Do you trick your dog constantly? God?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Ah, you thought I had something? I don't do it?
I don't like. I don't like the way treats feel
in my pocket.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
What about a fanny pack.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I wear a fanny pack more for fashion, not for great,
not for function. There I'm not putting the treats smell.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
They do smell. They smell, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't. I'm told you I'm in smells. I don't
like it. Yeah, not doing.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I've always smelled like dog and dog treats.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
My dad used to not let us have doritos as
a child because they stunned. He said they He always
would say they smell like a sweaty dog. Really, he
would scream at us, get those out of the house.
But I have weird all the flavors. No, just not
just not Choe. I don't think cool Ranch smelled like
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a dog to him.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I think that one has a stronger son.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It probably does. Maybe it was cool Ranch too. I
have no idea. This is that's so silly. Yeah, what
about those bark collars? Do you like bark collars?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I haven't used a bark collar personally, I'm not against them.
I do use electric collars, electronic collars. I'll use very
low levels.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
We cranked ours up to max with he didn't care
at all, bark right through it because what it means
it's just And then then he just like I think
he was getting stronger. I don't know what was happening.
All of a sudden, he started like.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Did you just buy when and put it on your
dog and just see how it happened.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I don't know how I I uh introduced it to him,
but I just know that it was on like a
nothing setting and we got no reaction. So then you
just we just kept cranking it up, and that's one.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Way to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It didn't work.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
That's not the way he doesn't should do it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Then I bought this little frequency noise thing that when
he barks, you're supposed to press it and it does
a noise that they don't like.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And then does it did he stop?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Well here's my thing. Right around the time my other
dog who has dementia. I was like, well, now she's
getting getting a side effect of your bad behavior. I
can't do I couldn't in good faith do it went
all crazy over here, is like, what the fuck was that?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, it's a little unfair, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Not fair, right, Yeah. I didn't have a solution to
that problem.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Is your other dogs still barking?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah, constant again. I don't care. I was trying
to make my partner, you know, less agitated. Yeah, that
ship sailed. Did you ever do the watch? McCall leashes
with it with the prongs the prong.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I don't use them.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I don't use it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I like caller over prong personally.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I have a wide band choke collar. Is that acceptable?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I mean, anything's acceptable. You just have to teach the
dog what it means. My dog walks fine, then great,
then that's not.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, he likes to lead and I kind of always
pull him back. Should I do that or should I
let him?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Is it okay to let him lead if you're not
working through any behavior issues? It just depends on what
you want. Duckster typically walks in front of me, but
Lana stays by my side.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I always like those cool dog owners that go leashless
and the dog just stays right next to him and
they're not affected by anything, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I saw one down there.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
As soon as I see it, though, I'm just like, whatever,
you just have more time on your hands. I'm at
home spending time with friends and family. Jerk. Can you
train any.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Dog hypothetically, I'm still kind of early in my career,
so I don't want to be naive and think I
could train any dog. And then I get a dog
and I'm like tearing you that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Okay, I've never had a trainer for any of my dogs.
I've had trainers come to my house and start, but
then thirty minutes in, I'm just like, when is this
person leaving? Yeah, because they do too much for me.
Read the room, you know, here, here's my thing. Yeah,
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I don't have dogs that are going to hurt me
right physically everything else. Oh you mean, I just need
to do spend a lot of time, repetition, do it
every day. So I'm like, I don't this is getting silly.
I don't need this.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I mean growing up, we didn't have a trainer. Like,
we didn't our dogs were perfect. I didn't know dogs
needed training.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Is that just an LA thing where these people are
just lazy and they want you to do the work
for him.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I think that's part of it. But I also think
the expectations and modern society that we put on dogs
in cities like La New York, just busier cities so
used to be so reactive every time I stepped outside
of the house, she'd be lunging if a leaf crinkled.
And if I lived in an apartment in LA, I
have to get her out of the house three to
four times a day to go potty. That's non negotiable.
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So I can't have her acting like that. So I
think it's more necessity. But also everybody wants a patio puppy,
which is also fine. I love taking my dogs to
sit on patios.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
But is that a term that I should have known
patio puppy?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh? I kind of just made it up. But that
is like an expectation. We put a lot of expectations
on our dogs in LA and busier cities. Everybody wants
to be able to take their dog running off leash
at the beach with other dogs and not have anything happen.
And I agree, I do think to me, dog training
is a more spiritual experience, that's what. And that's when
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you're like, I'm checking out. So how does would your
wife stick around?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
No, no, she doesn't like dogs.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Oh then yeah, she definitely wouldn't. Yeah, So it's just
about But if your dog isn't endangering you, right then
I don't really care, Like I'll meet you where you're at.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
What's the hardest breed to train?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Huskies?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Huskies?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, or German shepherds. They're just really opposite. So German
shepherds are hard to train because they're so owner oriented
that they need constant information, and huskies are the opposite
where they couldn't give two shits about you and just
want to go be feral.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Let's talk pit bull for a second. Okay, are you
love them?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I like pit bulls. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Are you afraid of them?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
No? At least two are. I mean, he's kind of
pit bull. She's a pit bull.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
See, I've my brother always has pits, rescue pits. I
love them. But I'm always like you. I don't get
mad at me because I'm not you.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Know, putting your face up to I'll do that.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I'll even do that because I'm not worried about it.
But I understand there's like, no I have an ease.
Is not going to kill someone now under any circumstance.
It's no matter how poorly trained they are. Some dogs
have consequences, other dogs don't.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, exactly. Owning a pitbull is a way bigger responsibility
in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I have a burn a doodle.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay, yeah, I like doodles. I don't. I think everybody
thinks that they're getting one thing. And then I've definitely
trained some pretty intense doodles, but I think overall they
have pretty good demeanors. I like them.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I'm happy with mine. And the things that people don't
like about my dog, I actually like, like when somebody
new comes in the house, big bark, Oh yeah, I
like it. Oh my good.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's the thing, and that's what I tell a lot
of clients is I my dogs are far from this
perfect standard of what a dog trainer's dog should be.
If you come into my house, my dogs would be
rushing to the door, jumping on you and barking because
they're letting me know like someone's here. They're going to
quickly sell down and I can call them off and
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if I know how to work through that behavior, if
I wanted to, but I just don't really care to.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
What about those people that buy eighty thousand dollars German shepherd.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's insane?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
That only like all the commit nine you have to
like they like basically take care of their bite work dogs.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
What is it like bite work dogs or like sports
dogs something. Yeah, I'm not too into the sports world.
It's super opposite.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Not these like security dogs.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah yeah, these personal protection dogs. Yeah, that's a huge
responsibility too. I think people just don't realize the responsibility
that goes into that. And I know some people who
let their guard down and the dog went after a
kid or something awful like that, and then it's just
unfortunate for everyone involved. Yeah, because the dog was arguably
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doing their job.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Just give me that money.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, I know. I'm just like, there's I could do
so much for shelters with them money.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well, see that's what I do. I buy really expensive
design your dogs. Then Okay, the guilt from what I've
done makes me cut checks to best friends. That's who
I always work with. Good it should for years, for decades.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'm just like, ah, fine, looking at your doodle and
you're like, here's here's another check.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Right, So I feel like it it serves a purpose. Yeah,
my dog creates guilt great. Also, my allergies. People always say, oh,
you get a hyperalergenic dog, you have allergies. I can't
put a new shirt on without sneezing for forty five years.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Sog to your doodle.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
No, not really, but like dogs, I can oh right, yeah,
I can start feeling it.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I used to be allergic to dogs. Yeah, yeah, I
agree with that eventually.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You like Chihuahuas, Yeah, I do. Do they outnumber pipples
in the UH?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I don't think they outnumber them because people want small dogs,
so they'll tolerate like of poorly behaved chihuahua. And to
be honest, I don't think everybody should go rescue the
red listed piple. I think that there's a lot of
really good, well demeanored pities that are up for ad
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option that you can definitely go. Just get get to
know the dog.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Don't ever read the comments on any of my videos.
I'm going because it's just people just awful. Yeah. I
just can't handle it. They just tried it fun, but
they have nothing going on. German Shepherds are not the
hardest dog to train. She's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Like, Okay, this girl's never trained dogs in her life.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Doesn't matter. Everybody's on the show gets a gift. Your
gift is not it's just stuff for my house. Oh great,
but I don't want That's all I ever give away.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Okay, cool, but this caution heavy.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
This our company sent me. Okay, it's a thunder thunder
whatever they do best for dogs. But then they have
all kinds of things. There's leashes, there's shirt that's what
says my dog's names carl point. Oh that's cute. I'll
keep that, thanks guys. But there's just a million things
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in here for dogs. But here's what have.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You used this for your dog?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
The anxiety?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
No, my dogs don't. My dogs don't have anxiety.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I mean if she's barking all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Not all the time, just when just when my wife
is nearby de menstruating. I don't know. Here, get this
off my desk. Please, it's heavy. I know it's you
going to be careful with it. You got you're strong.
The dogs. There's probably treats in there that they can smell.
Let me tell you why thunder Uh is it? What
is it called thunder works? Let me tell you why
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thunder shirt? Yeah, the thundershirt. This is why they sent
me this box. I was interviewing my father in law
and he says he's got bad posture. He's like, well,
I wear a thundershirt like twice a week to straighten
my posture. He didn't mean the un actual thunder shirt.
He was just calling it that. I think the brand
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that he wears is as Tommy Cooper is the brand
of posture shirt that he wears because so he doesn't slunch.
I want to make better box well anyway, Thundershirts. They
thought it was nice that we were talking about them,
so they sent me a huge box. I'm like, well,
I don't have this problem with my dog. What am
I gonna do with all this product? They also donated
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some to a shelter. I believe they donated to best
friends an equal amount so that I didn't say anything
bad about them. But now I figure, I'll just pay
it for it to give it to you, You give
it to your clients, you do whatever you want with it,
or you throw it away. That's up to you. You
let me sell it, that's fine anyway, I want to think.
I want to thank Thunder Works forgiving us that for
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e Ze, But more importantly, Tommy Cooper, we need you
to send us a bunch of posture shirts to my
father in law. And he's probably a medium or a large,
I don't know what, but just straighten that old man
up because he is he's just bent over. Why should
pet owners avoid dog parks.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I don't have a problem with dog parks. I really don't.
But I think the problem with dog parks is the
dog owners that go to dog parks because they usually
just go and they leave their dog there and then
they go sit on the bench and then they're just
scrolling on their phone the whole time and they have
no idea what's going on. So even if I did
that with Dexter, who loves other dogs, he would be
running around humping other dogs. His brain's not really working.
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So what I do with dogs is I want to
get them thinking. I want to slow down their need
to just go all the time and have zero impulse
control and really slow them down and be a little
bit more intentional with them. So that's my spiel on
dog parks. I don't have an issue with them. Like
I said, I'll still take if you.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Go a walk to a dog park, maybe that can
be like and the dog park can be the reward.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah. I think what happens is that you pull up
to the dog park, the dogs screaming in the car,
you let them rush out the door, they run into
the dog park, and then they have they don't even
know who you are when you're in there, They're just
in dog. It's like, I haven't been a LA dog park,
so maybe it's different an LA dog park. Now I haven't.
I feel like it's got to be. Well, I have Lana,
so if I'm gonna go somewhere, I'm gonna take both
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of them.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
And often are you training people's dogs too often? How often?
Did how did Pete find you?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
He found me? I'm an independent contractor. I was an
independent contractor through a dog training company.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
They finally got a dog, like, he's great. They they
take him and his wife, they did five hundred years
to make any decisions, and that whatever, these are impulses
he has, you know, the dumb hip sack of treats
that's just so embarrassing. And then the sixty foot training
leash that he walks around with and I'm just like,
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what are you doing, man, Let's just let your dog
run around? And then they just they're all, oh, well,
we can't leave right now, our dog's gonna nap. I'm like, what,
open the door of your room and just leave.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I actually talk about them with other because of how
amazing they did with their dog when she was a puppy,
so I give great reviews to their parenting style.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
It just seems a bit much. Cassidy, thank you for
being on the show. Good luck, Thank you, and I
hope no more dogs in the world die under your watch.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
They probably will unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Well you're doing your part. That's all you can ask, Casha.
All right, I want to thank Cassidy for helping out
working with the the pets of Toss Show. Carl, how
you doing, buddy? Do you enjoy the Super Bowl? I
(40:44):
haven't watched yet. I record it and I'm gonna save
it and watch it during the Oscars. But my wife
wants to watch the Oscars. I'm positive of that, and
then I can just go downstairs and watch the Big Game.
Did I place a ton of bets on the Super Bowl?
You better believe it. But I'm not checking my app,
(41:04):
not checking the balance smart Anyway, we got some plugs
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my tour dates adding new shows, adding second shows in
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New Brunswick, New Jersey and Minneapolis St. Paul, Minnesota, and
I'm excited about this, heading out, heading out of the country,
heading to Portugal, doing a show in Lisbon. Can you
believe it? Oh, I'm looking forward to that. Why are
we performing to live there? I don't know. Maybe I
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want to live there one day. You get a golden visa,
you buy some real estate, you pretend to you're from
a different country. It's what all the cool, rich guys
are doing. Comporta. They say, that's like the Hamptons. I'm
not a fan of the Hamptons, never have been. What
do you think of that? When when people are like, oh,
We're gonna go into the Hamptons, I'm like, great, are
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you gonna be there? I'm like, I'm never going there.
Not my thing. I'll tell you where. I love Nantucket, Yep,
those are my people. I like people in Nantuck, Martha's
Martha's Vineyard, Nah, no, thank you. I travel, I find
playing places. I like Maine. Good luck getting me out
of there. I would live in Maine if it wasn't
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for my wife. Gosh, she's such a downer. Anytime we're
in someplace great, I'm like, don anything, we could live here,
and she's like, no, like, why not. She's like, I
don't know. Like we're having the best time ever. The
food's delicious, people are wonderful, it's beautiful. She didn't like
cold though, That's what it gets her, like, we don't
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have to be here when it's cold, right, stay inside.
It's not like you do anything anyway. Stay all right, Well,
let's get to the free plug. We had any free
plug music? You know what kind of music we listened to?
Oh that's more uh like just nature sounds, but I
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like it, throwing one of Eddie's random eagle noises right there.
All right, let's see what this free plug is. You
guys do know that these free plugs, h I don't
look at them until right at this moment. So here
we go. This week's free plug is for Pink's carpet
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and this week is no different. You know, a carpet cleaning.
They just in general, are people still getting wall to
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cleaning carpet, tile, grout, upholstery, and area rugs. That's good.
You know. I had somebody come and clean our area rugs,
and hey, they basically when they took they removed the furniture,
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took the rug out, and then came back and put
the furniture back and left. The rugs were great, but
I'll be honest with you, the furniture was fucking nowhere
near where originally was. They basically just redecorated. So now
if I get the area rugs cleaned, ever, I'm down
putting corner pieces of tape everywhere and marking stuff off.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I mean, imagine if you're blind, come back in.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
That room, bust a shin. Anyway, Well, so, anyway, the
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That's what I was just talking about. That's what all
my rug guys do. None of the rug people want
to clean in front of you because they don't want
to see how. I'm convinced that sometimes they just fucking
flip my rug over and it's like, oh, look at that,
we cleaned it. I'm like, did you or did you
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See you next week.
How many dogs have you found homes for in your life?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Not one hundred?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, cash show, cash show to show. Hey everybody, it's
Tosh Show Tuesday. Who Eddie? How are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm great? How long did it take you to get
here today?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hour and a half hour?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
For this is the first day that you came here
to Malibu via the Pacific Coast Highway the PCH after
the fires closed. How traumatic was it? It's different.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's sad.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You don't want to go though, don't you know? You
said you haven't done it yet, right I don't. I don't.
I don't drive through the burn areas right now, but
I will. I would like to point out I'm not
saying that that that I put a mouth on it
and caused all of this. But remember when I said
the fix to making PCH safer was to slow the
speed limit down considerably, right and not allow people to
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park on the side of the highway. Well, currently the PCH,
the speed of them has been dropped to twenty five
miles an hour. You were not allowed to park anywhere
on the side. And guess what zero deaths? Yep, so
I guess. I mean it seems odd that I would
want this in this current moment. But you're welcome. By
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the way, the wildfires and rightfully so, have have gotten
tons of global coverage. You know, they always talk about, well,
what's important is life, and you don't want people to
die so that all the other stuff can be replaced.
(01:44):
And then we had another tragedy in DC with that
flight that collided with the helicopter and sixty seven people
were killed. I mean, I'm just pointing out that in
the fires, twenty nine people were killed global coverage twice
as many people killed on American Eagle flight. It's less,
(02:09):
And I'm just saying one of those was life and
the other is about a lot of stuff. The point
that I'm making here is that we do care about stuff.
We don't care about people as much as we should.
WHOA wasn't ready for that heavy take on Toss show.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I mean, you gave up on stuff a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh man, you've been out. I got a lot of stuff.
I gotta get rid of it. And even bigger news.
Luca to the Lakers. Well, As a life long Laker hater,
this couldn't be more perfect for me. Oh is he
easy to hate? Are you telling me. For the next decade,
I get to watch him go like this after every
(02:55):
non call, Oh who fouled? Look at my fat, pasty body.
You can see the marks. And as a twofer, you
know it also knocks down a few more people in
the pecking order of Laker Great, you have Lebron and
(03:17):
you're gonna have Luca. He had Shack, Kareem Magic, James Worthy,
and then Kobe Wow. He pushes him out, Kobe getting
knocked all the way down. I'll take your comments off air.
I don't know he Luca. They say he just couldn't
(03:39):
stay in shape, and now he's going to the Lakers
where a forty year old Lebron James spends one million dollars.
Who's this a physical therapist, doctor evil one million dollars
a year to keep Lebron at forty in top physical condition.
(04:00):
Luca famously, during the off season, I'm told has two
dozen Slovenian sausages a day. That's his regiment. You don't
want to guard a man that's had a couple dozen
Slovenian sausages sweating out the pores. That's not good out there.
(04:20):
Oh you don't, you don't want to press up against him.
It's slippery, and you need to be slippery when you
got a six inch vertical. Oh and guess what, you
won't believe this. I have another poop story we gotta start.
It has a sting for these Now, all right, let's
create a sting for the poop stories. Poop story number
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three hundred and forty one. I feel like, because I
talk about it, that more and more poop related things
are entering my life. Now, I've told you in the
past that my beloved Carl has occasionally in the poop cuisine.
He's he's had one of my daughter's turds a time
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or two. Well, as you know, I bought a pig.
I didn't, but the wife and her cousin but did.
And this pig, when he was brought into our lives
at a I think at eight weeks old, was seven pounds. Okay,
now we're at four months in he's currently twenty five pounds,
(05:27):
and oh my goodness, we'll eat any dog poop that's
in the yard. So I'm like, now, whenever my dogs go,
everyone has the strict instructions to quickly bag it before
potato gets it. Okay, Well, the other day, I have
a pile of these bagged dog droppings that I save
(05:53):
for the gardener to get rid of. Well, potato found
that that area ripped into the bags. There's probably ten
fifteen bags. Each bag probably two to five poops. That's
how I do it. You know, you pick one or
two or three up, depends how small they are when
you're cleaning up the yard. My educated guess is he
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probably ate, you know, his body weighting poop. So now
I have to like bag it and get rid of
it and put it into the trash can. It's all.
It's a lot of work. By the way, this pig
still sleeps in my bedroom. Cutest thing in the world.
I'm pretty sure this is how Ava, my old dog,
is going to die because she her weight is less
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and less. She's probably eight or nine pounds now. She
sleeps into her dog bed and then the twenty five
pound pig crawls on top of her and basically suffocates
her all night long, and she tends to love it.
They constantly are spooning. I got a photo of her
putting her little paw over the top the pig. They
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just they sleep together constantly. By the way, he doesn't.
Sometimes he didn't even wait for the dogs to go poop.
I've caught him going up to Ava while she was
napping and just eating from the tap just to come on. Yeah,
I couldn't believe it. But Data's eating ass like he's
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like he's some kind of Mormon with the poop hole loophole.
It's unacceptable. I don't I should ask today's guest how
to fix uh the pig pooping problem, but they're gonna
say the same thing. Would just make sure you pick
it all up. Well, okay, but now I have to
like follow multiple pets around and oh no, they went
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to the bathroom quick before hungry hungry Potato gets over here.
Enjoy Casha. If there is a heaven, my guest today
would get in without a problem. She's read over one
hundred dogs from being euthanized and now Train's pooch is
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full time right here in Los Angeles. She's a real
treat to have on today's show. Please welcome Cassidy.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That was great, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Thank you for being here, Thanks for having me. Do
you believe in ghost.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I believe in spirit guide? So is that the same thing?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yes? Okay, and yes, do you believe in dog ghosts. Yeah,
so like every species on the planet has their own
ghost after death.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't know. I go back and forth. Sometimes I
think some things reincarnate into something else and other things
stay as ghosts.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Good to know.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I feel like that we'll figuring it out.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, you let me know when you get there. Well
where are you originally from?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I am from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
How long did you live there?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I lived there until I was eighteen, and then I
moved to Duluth, Minnesota, where I went to college and
stayed a few years after very cold.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
One of my screen savers on an old computer or
was my dog? I was walking on a pier with
a little tiny lighthouse at the end of it, and
that was in Duluth.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You've been to Duluth.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Sure, how else would that story be relevant? I don't
know if you photoshopped your dogs into no one's photoshopping Duluth.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's very true. Duluth is so beautiful. I always say
it's a hidden gem of the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
The little lighthouse of course in Canal Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
A little lighthouse, ah man, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Do you go, But do you still have family in Tulsa.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I do, all my whole families in Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Tulsa, I mean just a real awful town. True or false.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
True, I don't love it. I think everyone said it's
up and coming. It feel like it's behind. Tulsa is up,
and everyone there said it's up and coming. I still
think it's ten fifteen years behind.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
There used to be a crappy comedy club that I
worked as a young comedian Tulsa, and it was a
jay it was. It shared a building with a nightclub.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It's probably still there well.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And the nightclub, who at the time was played a
lot of heavy bass hip hop music and and it
was just funny because I'd be performing and you just
hear bass coming through the walls and I was like,
this is not good.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I haven't been because I was eighteen when I left,
so I've never really gone out in Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, sure, this this is way before your time.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It might still be there, though.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Favorite college football team, Sooners. I didn't know if you
were like, you don't care at all, but you.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I mean, I don't watch it, but sure, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
My favorite Sooners game was what that game. It was
like a couple of years ago, maybe it was longer.
Where the after they scored that the trailer flipped over
and the girl flew out. The horses were just dragging
her around.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yep, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That was the delightful. That was delightful. So you finished
in Duluth?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
What did you study communications?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
With dogs?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
No? No, no, they do have degrees for that kind
of stuff. Now, I don't know. I've heard of it.
I haven't endeavored.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, so you had a degree in communications. I used
to tell people I had a minor in communications, but
I don't think I did.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I think it just lied about it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Why did I did you have a major?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah? I had a degree in marketing.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think they're very similar. There's a lot of overlap.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I'm sure I had classes in communications, but didn't. All right,
So what was your big plan when you were in college.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I did not have one. My plan was to get
out of college as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That was my plan. Yeah, So did you finish early?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes? I graduated at twenty and a full year early.
It was a full year early, and I didn't really
know what I wanted to do. I was waiting tables
at the time, and I just kind of stayed in
Duluth waiting tables, and and I guess the way I
got into dogs, I kind of went I call it
the rescue rabbit hole. You kind of spiral when you
get into the rescue world I found for me at least,
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and I basically saw a disconnect where I'm from. In Tulsa,
dogs are buy one, get one from the shelter, and
they're like ten dollars, and there's just a ton of straits,
kind of like southern California, so they're being euthanized a lot.
And then I would take them to Minnesota to be adopted,
where dogs cost way more to adopt.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So real quick, dogs aren't euthanized in southern California.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah they are. Yeah, there's a lot of overcrowding in
the shelters, especially in like Bakersfield.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And Okay, I don't know, we'll get into it whether
I consider bakers Field Southern California, but share enough. So
you started illegally, yes, adopting dogs in Tulsa, bringing them
up to Minnesota, the great folks of Minnesota, Yes, and
charging them seven hundred bucks per week.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So I did not charge. I only charged what I
to cover the expenses, and to be honest, most time
I never collected.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So you were just rescuing dogs?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Did you ever see that real depressing movie with what's
her name? Who? That's how I talk about people because
I never know actors' names from SNL and she what
was her name? She's one of that smelled her armpits
Molly Shannon and then she just went on this. God
just her life just became about helping rescue dogs. And
then the end of it, it's just like her happy
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kind of It's just depressing the whole movie. And she
has thousands of dogs with her.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Was she happy with the thousands of dogs?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
What's the name of this movie? Year of the Dog?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
No, I haven't seen it. One thing about me is
I haven't seen a lot of movies.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
There's no nobody has seen this movie. Yeah, they're all
freaking out right back there that I pulled this movie
from a rolodex of randomness that I've seen out. It
might be your life story.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I hope it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
To be honest, it was depressing.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I hope it's not my life story.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Have you ever smelled jarm pits.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Don't we all doing yoga? I don't know laying there?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
No, I don't do yoga.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Do you ever lay like this? Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yes, if it's ripe, I call in. I call in
the wife immediately. What is she doing? I got a
good one. She's like, what, I might smell this, and
she's like, ah, you know that's what. It's what we do.
Smells are my thing. I like smells foul and otherwise
say what you will. I don't care. Judge me. How
many back and forth did you do from Tulsa to Duluth.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'd have to I have not counted. I'd have to
look at my archives a dozen. Probably. It got to
a point where I would just do it, like I
would come home for Thanksgiving. Because I didn't tell my
parents I was doing this. They don't want them to worry.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It was at first it was like, you know, like
a drug mule, but with pooches.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, and I would I've break it up in the days.
Sometimes we'd sneak into a motel in Iowa. Who's we
me and the docks, Okay, me and myself and the dog, and.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Then we can bring this stuff up on a chance.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
No, I actually don't talk about it. To be honest,
I just started talking about it again. I got to
a point where they started driving the dogs. They would
drive them to Iowa, or they would drive them to Wisconsin. Folks,
no the rescue, sorry, like people from the shelter. So
there's people who commit their whole lives to transporting these
dogs across the country. It's insane, but they'll basically load
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up a huge sprinter van of like fifty dogs creates
stacked on top of each other, and they drive them
across the country to go to northern shelters where there's
not there's more demand.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Is Tulsa so littered with stray dogs?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I have theories it's I think it's just the South, because.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You consider Tulsa the South.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, but it's warmer climates, so it's warm enough for
animals to survive in so a lot of people if
they are in between getting rid of their dog, there's
no one to take the dog. They can either dump
the dog or take them to a shelter, and they're
probably gonna be uthanized at the shelter. Then they're just
gonna dump the dog because then that dog can at
least go and live their life in nature, and then
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if they're not, say and neuter, then they pro create,
and then we have a plethora of dogs. Whereas in
the North, if you were faced with the same concept
or the same problem dilemma, you wouldn't dump your dog
because you know that dog would just freeze to death
and that would just be wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I grew up always having dogs. Okay, but you're not
gonna like the story. That's okay, okay, but I'm a
huge dog advocate now. But when my parents moved constantly,
and whenever we moved, my dad just got rid of
our dog, like the dog didn't come with us.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's very common.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And I was always like, I never even thought to
be well, why wouldn't we just bring our dog. He's like,
you don't. You're not going to bring a Saint Bernard
to Florida. And I'm like, well, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's not terrible though, I.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Know, but like, let me tell you, it wasn't like
he went and sought out a good family. It was
just the dog just is gone. Yeah, well that was
that's one scenario. One time, my rabbit, my mom's like, well,
we're moving, you can't bring your rabbit. I'm like, well,
why can't I There wasn't even a conversation.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's so sad. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, listen, a lot of this stuff is the issues
that you see before you but now, I mean, good grief.
I get so attached to it. Never and I don't
even care about the pain that I go through when
one of them dies, I just keep doing it. I'm like, whatever, Yeah,
here we go again.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, it's pretty excruciating.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh it's rough.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So, for example, when COVID hit, it was all the
shelters in Minnesota were emptied because people were staying at
home and they had time to go faster at all.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Their whole country almost got rid of all of our
sheltered dogs.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
During the Closa, the problem doubled because people were thinking
that their dogs were going to give them COVID.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh see, okay, so there's just I don't even know
about those people.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
It got really bad in Tulsa around that time. And
also not even just that, but then people couldn't they
got laid off, they couldn't afford their dog, they couldn't
afford another mouth to feed, so then they would dump
their dog because they didn't have a job. So I
think it's a I do think that if people's needs
were met, then they wouldn't need to get rid of
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their dogs when times got.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Hard, you know, a rabbit hole. I used to go down,
what I don't do it anymore, but I used to
go down adopting children. You'd like, look into foster kids
and you'd see these videos that they make of themselves,
and they're cute and they're doing the big song and
dance like I'm great, come on, give me a home.
And I would just tear me apart. But I'd watch
these videos. But then what happened was years would go
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by and I'd see the same kids four years later,
like me and my sister, still looking for a family,
and it was just it's just heartbreak.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
That would be horrible.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh, it's horrible. So to see them age.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
That's at twenty. I wasn't ready for that. So I
went to the dog route.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You went to the dog route? Yeah, what does redlisted
mean for a shelter dog?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Euthanasia listed? So that means that they'll say this dog
is redlisted for two pm, and that means that they
will be euthanizes at two pm. Yeah. I don't follow
those pages. Anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
No, Oh, I try not to, and like, what do
you do hustle down there?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yes? Or people are posting they're pledging money, money that's
never collected because you can just comment on Instagram and
say I pledged fifty dollars and then someone's like, great,
I grabbed the dog. Where's that fifty dollars to help
with the dog? Got it for medical bills? And then
you don't hear from them.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
How many dogs have you found homes for in your life?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
About one hundred?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And how many dogs have you fostered?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Probably over one hundred. I think I stopped counting at
like forty because I was just like, you.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Rename those foster dogs or no, I'll name them.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Sometimes I'll keep their shelter names. Sometimes they just have
a kennel code name, like a number. It'll be like
a one zero, three, seven, two nine.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And when did you make the voyage out west?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I came out West three years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
What do your parents say when someone in Oklahoma ask
what you're up to these days?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
That's a good one, my dad goes. My dad says, well,
Cassidy's our free spirit child. She's out in California living
with the Manson Crew.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The shoe fits yep.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
And people don't train dogs in Oklahoma especially, so this
career doesn't really exist there as much, so they don't
really understand it or see it as a career.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
When did you start going to prisons?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I started going two years.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Ago, and explain to me what you do there.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So the Positive Change Program is a programmer in by
Marley's Mutts Rescue in Ta Hatchipee, and they pair dogs
who would otherwise be euthanized with people living in prison,
and then the people the inmates, train the dogs, and
then the dog become adopted.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It sounds great. Now. If you were to give me
the choice death or prison, I'm not sure which one
I would take.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I don't know either.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Is it only male prisons?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I've done a women's prison and right now I'm a
part of two male prisons.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You have to bring cats to the women's prisons? Yeah,
doesn't seem like that would be the right scenario. Would
do you fuck with cats?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I like cats. I don't know anything about training cats.
People ask me that a lot, no idea. I like cats, though.
I think more people should get cats, because I think
more people want something that can just cuddle them on
their couch and then stay home all day while they leave.
You get You have so much more freedom when you
have a cat versus when you have a dog. Dog
is a lot of responsibility, and I just don't think
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a lot of people realize that it's true. My parents
tried to lecture me on that, and I was like, yeah, yeah,
I know we had dogs growing up, but I didn't
realize how much my mom did for our dogs.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Was your first experience with professional dog training in a prison?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
No, Okay, nope. I had a couple of mentors that
I worked under for a little bit. To be honest,
I kind of started doing it. So had I not
left Minnesota, I arguably created the perfect business plan for
myself because I brought all of these rescue dogs to
Minnesota and now all those dogs need training. So I
kind of created a problem that I then became a
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trainer and could have had the solution for. But I
left to come to California to learn more from other trainers.
But I do still keep in touch with a lot
of them and they'll call me with training questions. So
I kind of started doing it really just to keep
these dogs out of my house. And get them adopted
and successfully. I was like, if you want to adopt
this dog, this is the best way to transition them
into your house. So I would help them with that,
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and then a lot of people told me like kind
of pushed me and encouraged me to start trying to
do this professionally, and ultimately I wanted to do the
Positive Change program. That was a huge very early in
my rescuing days, when I was struggling with law biting
other dogs, I found the Positive Change Program on social
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media and then I found trainers through there and clicked
on trainers they would share, and I just kind of
went down this journey of trying these different methods and
applying what worked and teaching it to other people.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Your services cost us and you better. You should probably
say a higher number than normal.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Just so I'm building. I'm getting my website launched right now,
so I've just changed kind of what I'm offering my services.
My private lessons are two fifty an hour for a
private lesson. I offer daily training, which is four days
a week, so I'll come to your house for an
hour a day, four days a week, and that is
six hundred a week.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
For now, do I have to be present for that.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
No, you do have to be present for one. So
every Friday you have to be there.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
We're going to hang out with you for an hour.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, every we can practice over the weekend. Because this
is what's so hard, is that I'm not like selling
you this mug and charging you and then you're like, great,
I love the mug. It really it's kind of like
if you hired a personal trainer because you wanted to
get fit, but then you didn't do any of the work,
then you're not going to see the results you want.
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But then that reflects for some reason, when it comes
to dog training, people don't put that together necessarily, and
then that reflects on me being a shitty dog trainer
because you didn't practice anything I taught you.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I agree. I agree with what you're saying. Like I
look at all the things that I refuse to do.
It's always like, you know, mental health, I won't see anybody,
won't talk to anybody, trainer, won't do it. It's just
I just want to avoid those interactions. Yet anything else where,
it's something like I could I could clean my deck.
(24:45):
I refuse to that. I would hire somebody for but
I would never all the things that are important to
make you a better person, to make people around you happier.
And I'm like, nope, my couples, there up no.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
A lot of people don't hire a dog trainer until
their dog. I didn't do you do anything training wise until
Lonna was attacking other dogs, And then I was.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Like, ooh, if someone couldn't afford your services, what advice
would you give them for trying to train their own dog.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
There is so much free content out there, and it
can be really confusing and overwhelming to people because there's
such differing philosophies when it comes to training. I would say,
just try it, try something, stick with it for a
little bit. If it doesn't work, try something else.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Do reward based systems work long term?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
They can kind of, but then at some point, like
you're not going to have a treat on you, so
you have to figure something else out.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, right, But rewards don't have to be a treat.
Rewards can be affection.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
That's all I do. I always I just reach in
my pocket, like I have a treat.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Do you trick your dog constantly? God?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Ah, you thought I had something? I don't do it?
I don't like. I don't like the way treats feel
in my pocket.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
What about a fanny pack.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I wear a fanny pack more for fashion, not for great,
not for function. There I'm not putting the treats smell.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
They do smell. They smell, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't. I'm told you I'm in smells. I don't
like it. Yeah, not doing.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I've always smelled like dog and dog treats.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
My dad used to not let us have doritos as
a child because they stunned. He said they He always
would say they smell like a sweaty dog. Really, he
would scream at us, get those out of the house.
But I have weird all the flavors. No, just not
just not Choe. I don't think cool Ranch smelled like
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a dog to him.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I think that one has a stronger son.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
It probably does. Maybe it was cool Ranch too. I
have no idea. This is that's so silly. Yeah, what
about those bark collars? Do you like bark collars?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I haven't used a bark collar personally, I'm not against them.
I do use electric collars, electronic collars. I'll use very
low levels.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
We cranked ours up to max with he didn't care
at all, bark right through it because what it means
it's just And then then he just like I think
he was getting stronger. I don't know what was happening.
All of a sudden, he started like.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Did you just buy when and put it on your
dog and just see how it happened.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I don't know how I I uh introduced it to him,
but I just know that it was on like a
nothing setting and we got no reaction. So then you
just we just kept cranking it up, and that's one.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Way to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It didn't work.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
That's not the way he doesn't should do it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Then I bought this little frequency noise thing that when
he barks, you're supposed to press it and it does
a noise that they don't like.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And then does it did he stop?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Well here's my thing. Right around the time my other
dog who has dementia. I was like, well, now she's
getting getting a side effect of your bad behavior. I
can't do I couldn't in good faith do it went
all crazy over here, is like, what the fuck was that?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, it's a little unfair, it's.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Not fair, right, Yeah. I didn't have a solution to
that problem.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Is your other dogs still barking?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah, constant again. I don't care. I was trying
to make my partner, you know, less agitated. Yeah, that
ship sailed. Did you ever do the watch? McCall leashes
with it with the prongs the prong.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I don't use them.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I don't use it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I like caller over prong personally.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I have a wide band choke collar. Is that acceptable?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I mean, anything's acceptable. You just have to teach the
dog what it means. My dog walks fine, then great,
then that's not.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, he likes to lead and I kind of always
pull him back. Should I do that or should I
let him?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Is it okay to let him lead if you're not
working through any behavior issues? It just depends on what
you want. Duckster typically walks in front of me, but
Lana stays by my side.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I always like those cool dog owners that go leashless
and the dog just stays right next to him and
they're not affected by anything, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I saw one down there.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
As soon as I see it, though, I'm just like, whatever,
you just have more time on your hands. I'm at
home spending time with friends and family. Jerk. Can you
train any.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Dog hypothetically, I'm still kind of early in my career,
so I don't want to be naive and think I
could train any dog. And then I get a dog
and I'm like tearing you that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Okay, I've never had a trainer for any of my dogs.
I've had trainers come to my house and start, but
then thirty minutes in, I'm just like, when is this
person leaving? Yeah, because they do too much for me.
Read the room, you know, here, here's my thing. Yeah,
(29:30):
I don't have dogs that are going to hurt me
right physically everything else. Oh you mean, I just need
to do spend a lot of time, repetition, do it
every day. So I'm like, I don't this is getting silly.
I don't need this.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I mean growing up, we didn't have a trainer. Like,
we didn't our dogs were perfect. I didn't know dogs
needed training.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Is that just an LA thing where these people are
just lazy and they want you to do the work
for him.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I think that's part of it. But I also think
the expectations and modern society that we put on dogs
in cities like La New York, just busier cities so
used to be so reactive every time I stepped outside
of the house, she'd be lunging if a leaf crinkled.
And if I lived in an apartment in LA, I
have to get her out of the house three to
four times a day to go potty. That's non negotiable.
(30:12):
So I can't have her acting like that. So I
think it's more necessity. But also everybody wants a patio puppy,
which is also fine. I love taking my dogs to
sit on patios.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
But is that a term that I should have known
patio puppy?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh? I kind of just made it up. But that
is like an expectation. We put a lot of expectations
on our dogs in LA and busier cities. Everybody wants
to be able to take their dog running off leash
at the beach with other dogs and not have anything happen.
And I agree, I do think to me, dog training
is a more spiritual experience, that's what. And that's when
(30:52):
you're like, I'm checking out. So how does would your
wife stick around?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
No, no, she doesn't like dogs.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Oh then yeah, she definitely wouldn't. Yeah, So it's just
about But if your dog isn't endangering you, right then
I don't really care, Like I'll meet you where you're at.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
What's the hardest breed to train?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Huskies?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Huskies?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, or German shepherds. They're just really opposite. So German
shepherds are hard to train because they're so owner oriented
that they need constant information, and huskies are the opposite
where they couldn't give two shits about you and just
want to go be feral.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Let's talk pit bull for a second. Okay, are you
love them?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I like pit bulls. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Are you afraid of them?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
No? At least two are. I mean, he's kind of
pit bull. She's a pit bull.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
See, I've my brother always has pits, rescue pits. I
love them. But I'm always like you. I don't get
mad at me because I'm not you.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Know, putting your face up to I'll do that.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I'll even do that because I'm not worried about it.
But I understand there's like, no I have an ease.
Is not going to kill someone now under any circumstance.
It's no matter how poorly trained they are. Some dogs
have consequences, other dogs don't.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, exactly. Owning a pitbull is a way bigger responsibility
in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I have a burn a doodle.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay, yeah, I like doodles. I don't. I think everybody
thinks that they're getting one thing. And then I've definitely
trained some pretty intense doodles, but I think overall they
have pretty good demeanors. I like them.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I'm happy with mine. And the things that people don't
like about my dog, I actually like, like when somebody
new comes in the house, big bark, Oh yeah, I
like it. Oh my good.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's the thing, and that's what I tell a lot
of clients is I my dogs are far from this
perfect standard of what a dog trainer's dog should be.
If you come into my house, my dogs would be
rushing to the door, jumping on you and barking because
they're letting me know like someone's here. They're going to
quickly sell down and I can call them off and
(33:01):
if I know how to work through that behavior, if
I wanted to, but I just don't really care to.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
What about those people that buy eighty thousand dollars German shepherd.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's insane?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
That only like all the commit nine you have to
like they like basically take care of their bite work dogs.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
What is it like bite work dogs or like sports
dogs something. Yeah, I'm not too into the sports world.
It's super opposite.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Not these like security dogs.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah yeah, these personal protection dogs. Yeah, that's a huge
responsibility too. I think people just don't realize the responsibility
that goes into that. And I know some people who
let their guard down and the dog went after a
kid or something awful like that, and then it's just
unfortunate for everyone involved. Yeah, because the dog was arguably
(33:48):
doing their job.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Just give me that money.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, I know. I'm just like, there's I could do
so much for shelters with them money.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well, see that's what I do. I buy really expensive
design your dogs. Then Okay, the guilt from what I've
done makes me cut checks to best friends. That's who
I always work with. Good it should for years, for decades.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'm just like, ah, fine, looking at your doodle and
you're like, here's here's another check.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Right, So I feel like it it serves a purpose. Yeah,
my dog creates guilt great. Also, my allergies. People always say, oh,
you get a hyperalergenic dog, you have allergies. I can't
put a new shirt on without sneezing for forty five years.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Sog to your doodle.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
No, not really, but like dogs, I can oh right, yeah,
I can start feeling it.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I used to be allergic to dogs. Yeah, yeah, I
agree with that eventually.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You like Chihuahuas, Yeah, I do. Do they outnumber pipples
in the UH?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I don't think they outnumber them because people want small dogs,
so they'll tolerate like of poorly behaved chihuahua. And to
be honest, I don't think everybody should go rescue the
red listed piple. I think that there's a lot of
really good, well demeanored pities that are up for ad
(35:10):
option that you can definitely go. Just get get to
know the dog.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Don't ever read the comments on any of my videos.
I'm going because it's just people just awful. Yeah. I
just can't handle it. They just tried it fun, but
they have nothing going on. German Shepherds are not the
hardest dog to train. She's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Like, Okay, this girl's never trained dogs in her life.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Doesn't matter. Everybody's on the show gets a gift. Your
gift is not it's just stuff for my house. Oh great,
but I don't want That's all I ever give away.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Okay, cool, but this caution heavy.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
This our company sent me. Okay, it's a thunder thunder
whatever they do best for dogs. But then they have
all kinds of things. There's leashes, there's shirt that's what
says my dog's names carl point. Oh that's cute. I'll
keep that, thanks guys. But there's just a million things
(36:08):
in here for dogs. But here's what have.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You used this for your dog?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
The anxiety?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
No, my dogs don't. My dogs don't have anxiety.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I mean if she's barking all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Not all the time, just when just when my wife
is nearby de menstruating. I don't know. Here, get this
off my desk. Please, it's heavy. I know it's you
going to be careful with it. You got you're strong.
The dogs. There's probably treats in there that they can smell.
Let me tell you why thunder Uh is it? What
is it called thunder works? Let me tell you why
(36:41):
thunder shirt? Yeah, the thundershirt. This is why they sent
me this box. I was interviewing my father in law
and he says he's got bad posture. He's like, well,
I wear a thundershirt like twice a week to straighten
my posture. He didn't mean the un actual thunder shirt.
He was just calling it that. I think the brand
(37:02):
that he wears is as Tommy Cooper is the brand
of posture shirt that he wears because so he doesn't slunch.
I want to make better box well anyway, Thundershirts. They
thought it was nice that we were talking about them,
so they sent me a huge box. I'm like, well,
I don't have this problem with my dog. What am
I gonna do with all this product? They also donated
(37:24):
some to a shelter. I believe they donated to best
friends an equal amount so that I didn't say anything
bad about them. But now I figure, I'll just pay
it for it to give it to you, You give
it to your clients, you do whatever you want with it,
or you throw it away. That's up to you. You
let me sell it, that's fine anyway, I want to think.
I want to thank Thunder Works forgiving us that for
(37:45):
e Ze, But more importantly, Tommy Cooper, we need you
to send us a bunch of posture shirts to my
father in law. And he's probably a medium or a large,
I don't know what, but just straighten that old man
up because he is he's just bent over. Why should
pet owners avoid dog parks.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I don't have a problem with dog parks. I really don't.
But I think the problem with dog parks is the
dog owners that go to dog parks because they usually
just go and they leave their dog there and then
they go sit on the bench and then they're just
scrolling on their phone the whole time and they have
no idea what's going on. So even if I did
that with Dexter, who loves other dogs, he would be
running around humping other dogs. His brain's not really working.
(38:27):
So what I do with dogs is I want to
get them thinking. I want to slow down their need
to just go all the time and have zero impulse
control and really slow them down and be a little
bit more intentional with them. So that's my spiel on
dog parks. I don't have an issue with them. Like
I said, I'll still take if you.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Go a walk to a dog park, maybe that can
be like and the dog park can be the reward.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah. I think what happens is that you pull up
to the dog park, the dogs screaming in the car,
you let them rush out the door, they run into
the dog park, and then they have they don't even
know who you are when you're in there, They're just
in dog. It's like, I haven't been a LA dog park,
so maybe it's different an LA dog park. Now I haven't.
I feel like it's got to be. Well, I have Lana,
so if I'm gonna go somewhere, I'm gonna take both
(39:13):
of them.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
And often are you training people's dogs too often? How often?
Did how did Pete find you?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
He found me? I'm an independent contractor. I was an
independent contractor through a dog training company.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
They finally got a dog, like, he's great. They they
take him and his wife, they did five hundred years
to make any decisions, and that whatever, these are impulses
he has, you know, the dumb hip sack of treats
that's just so embarrassing. And then the sixty foot training
leash that he walks around with and I'm just like,
(39:47):
what are you doing, man, Let's just let your dog
run around? And then they just they're all, oh, well,
we can't leave right now, our dog's gonna nap. I'm like, what,
open the door of your room and just leave.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I actually talk about them with other because of how
amazing they did with their dog when she was a puppy,
so I give great reviews to their parenting style.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
It just seems a bit much. Cassidy, thank you for
being on the show. Good luck, Thank you, and I
hope no more dogs in the world die under your watch.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
They probably will unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Well you're doing your part. That's all you can ask, Casha.
All right, I want to thank Cassidy for helping out
working with the the pets of Toss Show. Carl, how
you doing, buddy? Do you enjoy the Super Bowl? I
(40:44):
haven't watched yet. I record it and I'm gonna save
it and watch it during the Oscars. But my wife
wants to watch the Oscars. I'm positive of that, and
then I can just go downstairs and watch the Big Game.
Did I place a ton of bets on the Super Bowl?
You better believe it. But I'm not checking my app,
(41:04):
not checking the balance smart Anyway, we got some plugs
tossshowstore dot com. Check out the Toss Show merch wear
that merch to one of my shows. Get a free
finger point. Hey. We got Eddie's tour dates and uh
my tour dates adding new shows, adding second shows in
(41:25):
New Brunswick, New Jersey and Minneapolis St. Paul, Minnesota, and
I'm excited about this, heading out, heading out of the country,
heading to Portugal, doing a show in Lisbon. Can you
believe it? Oh, I'm looking forward to that. Why are
we performing to live there? I don't know. Maybe I
(41:45):
want to live there one day. You get a golden visa,
you buy some real estate, you pretend to you're from
a different country. It's what all the cool, rich guys
are doing. Comporta. They say, that's like the Hamptons. I'm
not a fan of the Hamptons, never have been. What
do you think of that? When when people are like, oh,
We're gonna go into the Hamptons, I'm like, great, are
(42:07):
you gonna be there? I'm like, I'm never going there.
Not my thing. I'll tell you where. I love Nantucket, Yep,
those are my people. I like people in Nantuck, Martha's
Martha's Vineyard, Nah, no, thank you. I travel, I find
playing places. I like Maine. Good luck getting me out
of there. I would live in Maine if it wasn't
(42:29):
for my wife. Gosh, she's such a downer. Anytime we're
in someplace great, I'm like, don anything, we could live here,
and she's like, no, like, why not. She's like, I
don't know. Like we're having the best time ever. The
food's delicious, people are wonderful, it's beautiful. She didn't like
cold though, That's what it gets her, like, we don't
(42:50):
have to be here when it's cold, right, stay inside.
It's not like you do anything anyway. Stay all right, Well,
let's get to the free plug. We had any free
plug music? You know what kind of music we listened to?
Oh that's more uh like just nature sounds, but I
(43:13):
like it, throwing one of Eddie's random eagle noises right there.
All right, let's see what this free plug is. You
guys do know that these free plugs, h I don't
look at them until right at this moment. So here
we go. This week's free plug is for Pink's carpet
(43:33):
cleaning in the Greater Phoenix area. You guys know by
now that we here at Toash Show loves supporting small businesses,
and this week is no different. You know, a carpet cleaning.
They just in general, are people still getting wall to
wall carpet? And is that a selling point? Oh we've
got wall to wall carpeting. Well that's good. You employ
(43:56):
that guy that goes around and rams that thing with
his knee. Yeah right, that's good. Anyway, Pink specializes in
cleaning carpet, tile, grout, upholstery, and area rugs. That's good.
You know. I had somebody come and clean our area rugs,
and hey, they basically when they took they removed the furniture,
(44:16):
took the rug out, and then came back and put
the furniture back and left. The rugs were great, but
I'll be honest with you, the furniture was fucking nowhere
near where originally was. They basically just redecorated. So now
if I get the area rugs cleaned, ever, I'm down
putting corner pieces of tape everywhere and marking stuff off.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
I mean, imagine if you're blind, come back in.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
That room, bust a shin. Anyway, Well, so, anyway, the
Pinks satisfaction guaranteed for fourteen days. After fourteen days, you
and I both know that bitch spilled some wine. They
don't just do in home cleaning either. If you have
(45:03):
a highly soiled area rug, they'll pick it up and
then redeliver it back to you as cleans the whistle.
That's what I was just talking about. That's what all
my rug guys do. None of the rug people want
to clean in front of you because they don't want
to see how. I'm convinced that sometimes they just fucking
flip my rug over and it's like, oh, look at that,
we cleaned it. I'm like, did you or did you
(45:24):
just flip it over? You're onto us. These people are
licensed and insured. They also clean furniture, so don't forget.
Their slogan is if it's dirtier stinks, call pinks. Now
I know why we picked them. They got us with
their dumb slogan. If it's dirtier stinks, call pinks. If
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it's dirty and stinks, yeah, you just fucked a whore.
See you next week.
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