November 12, 2024 • 48 mins
Daniel chats with Adam, a practicing veterinarian for more than twenty years, about everything from operating on mice and big cats to expressing anal glands and why dog owners are easier to work with.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dogger cat owners?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Who's worse to deal with cat owners?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Is it by a mile?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
A mile? Like more than a mile?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Tosh Show, Tosh Show to show? Hey there, who knows
what time it is?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
We used to release these every week six am West
Coast time sharp. Now we're experimenting maybe we should release
them later in the day when traffic is a little
more lively.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So I don't know what time it is.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
But what I do know here at Toss Show, it's
a special day, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Do you know what today is?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Not sure what today is?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's our birthday?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What? No? No, no, no, no no?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
A happy birthday? Toss Show, A right happy? Is one
year old? Can you believe it? I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
In one year we have turned this little tiny podcast
into this.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Man, what a ride? What a ride?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So we're one year old? Sound sound the trumpets? Oh
my goodness, No, I want our artificial ones. I know
it's we're in birthday mode, but I have something else.
This is crazy. I was surfing the other day with Pierre,
you know, Pierre, the guy that eats hot dogs and
fucking random food. Anyway, my French buddy. We're surfing up
(01:43):
up north a bit on the PCH and my truck
is just parked on.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
The side of the road. We're going into the water.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And he goes, oh, hey, I need to lock this up,
and I'm like, yeah, you don't need to lock it up.
Nobody steals anything anymore. It's twenty twenty four. People stop stealing.
Just throw it in the back of the truck. He goes, no,
So I go and unlock my truck for him, and
he throws whatever he wanted not to get stolen anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
His story is stupid.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
We come out of the water from surfing and my belt,
my jeans, and my used boxer shorts were stolen from the.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Back of my truck. And this isn't like.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
This isn't a place where there's parking, there's no buildings around.
This is like the PCH like words empty. So so
somebody came by, went in the back of my truck,
took my jeans, belt and underwear, left my cashmere sweater,
left my shoes, left his clothes, All of his clothes
(02:47):
were in there. Didn't touch them, but just some unhoused
man got a pair of raging bone jeans, ted baker belt.
James Pursos, I mean all in all, I guarantee that's
over a thousand bucks.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Jerk, pretty good haul.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Hell of a hall anyway, Happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Birthday to you. Get you some boxes.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Holy cow, I can't believe we've done this for one year.
What's been your favorite episode, Eddie? I like the Astronauts,
Steve Astronaut.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
That was a good one.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
That guy gave me a little pea bag from space yeh,
from the Apollo Mission.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I still have that. I use it every day.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Who's your favorite guest? My favorite guest? Whatever one's not
viewed the most? That was my favorite. Come on, guys,
watch that one. I like all of them. They're like
children to me, you know, except for the one that
was my child. That one's actually my kids. It's been
a good year, and I was happy to do the show.
We are this is our last episode. No, I'm kidding.
(03:58):
We'll probably do the show for another twenty years. You
think we'll be here.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
For NuRD twenty Oh absolutely, Eddie. If you're here, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Let me ask you this. What's what have you learned
by doing this show. You've never really hosted a show
where you're just interviewing people constantly.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I learned that when you're interviewing somebody you got, you
gotta stay awake.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's pretty okay if you.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Not off during an interview. That lets them know that
you're not very interested in what they.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Have to say.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's a good sign.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So the whole time, I'm just when they're talking, I'm
just like, don't fall asleep. By the way, this birthday,
you know, I know we didn't get any cake or anything,
but we we did get some hardware.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You see this.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
YouTube, Oh man, send us this. I don't know what
it is.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's a it's an award for passing one hundred thousand
subscribers eleven months ago.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
M h, well, I don't want this.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I don't like awards, So I will give this award,
says presented to Toss Show. I'll give that to whoever
makes the most comments on this video, and not just
you know, they have to be funny comments, but not
just one. I want like one hundred and fifty thousand.
I want one hundred and fifty thousand. Wow, just the
(05:23):
most comments that are enjoyable for me to read. I
don't know what I'm asking for exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Eddie, yep, Eddie, do you remember our first guest I
do it was Finky, a gay doctor. Now a year later,
this show has evolved. Today's guest is a gay doctor.
Enjoy Pasha. My guest today is a goddamn hero. He
(05:54):
is a gay man who has saved countless pussies and bitches.
His patients have names like Cinnamon, star Dust and Bigsby,
and they usually come to them when their owners have
allowed them to limp around for a couple of weeks
and hopes it would magically go away. Please welcome veterinarian
doctor Adam.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh, how are you. I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I'm doing really good? Thank you good first, well, thank
you for being here. Do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Absolutely, I mean absolutely, I believe in ghosts about pet ghosts,
of course.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh, so everything has a spirit.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Everything has a spirit if the spirit has a reason
to stay around.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh there's condition.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
If you don't have unfinished business, then you're just gone.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, you go off, do whatever else you do.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
But if you have unfinished business or there's another lesson
to learn, you stay around.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Until you learn it. Sure, horseshit, I gotta learn stuff
after I die. There's no chance I die and I've
finished everything that I needed.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
To do or that's why you get more chances.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, it's really convenient.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, you were born and raised in La brent Woods
typically give our audience a better understanding of geography. How
close was your childhood home to Oj Simpson?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So I went to school at Brentwood High. I was
actually raised in Chevy at Hills, but the school was
about a mile and a half from OJ's house.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Do you remember that night as a kid?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I wasn't a kid, I was. I was home from college. Okay,
I was home. I was actually eating at the Islands
that used to be on Pico and Veteran.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You what kind of burger you go with?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Big Way with cheese, no question, And we were watching
the low Speed car race on the television, so they
all had TVs.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So I remember that day very well.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You still like a burger?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I do.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Actually, we just took my mom to Islands for her
birthday as like a nostalgic celebration because she used to
take us and I got the same thing.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's very sweet. Yeah, have you always loved animals?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
How many pets did you have growing up?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
The first pet was a goldfish, but then a bird,
and then we got a dog when I was nine.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Maybe what kind of bird?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Did you have a little cockatil?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'm not a bird fan. I love him in the wild.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, I'm not really a bird fan either. The birds
we deal with as Venerians are sick and mean.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Not really.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I wanted a pelican for a long time, but Pete
told me, they said, knock it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Off, Daniel, pelican. Pelican would be rough.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh but it's such a neat animal, you know. I
just like that.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
They hang out on peers, talk to old fishermen all
day long. Then they fly, they swim.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
So you want like a wild pelican friend, Yeah, not
a pelican in the house.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I basically want a childhood story. Okay, I like that
come to life. Yes, when did you come out?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
When I was eighteen? Christmas break? Freshman year of college?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How'd your parents handle it?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Great?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Did they know?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
My mom knew?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Did she really?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Or she just say she because Mom's always say I knew,
and there's like, you didn't fucking know?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Shit, Lady.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Two of her very close friends were a gay couple,
and she had mentioned to them that she thought I
was gay, And that year I think we had Thanksgiving
and they came to Think Giving dinner and they didn't
confirm or deny to her, so she assumed since they
didn't say anything, they didn't want to tell her.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So she did they know?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Did you let them know?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I don't, Well I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, it's all like they have special powers to know
they do.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I had a best friend come out like when he
was like thirty seven to me. I was like like, no,
my whole life never just had buried it, buried it,
And I was so mad at myself. I'm like, how
in the world you pull this off? You went to
school at Stanford again Stanford. We've had five people now
on this show they went to Stanford. It's basically an
(09:41):
intellectual podcast that dabbles in comedy.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Pete's wife does a bit always makes me laugh. Wherever
I say a college, I go, hey, sing their fight song,
and then she just starts singing it and it makes
me laugh. And she doesn't know anything about sports. Let's
see if she'll do it on the fly. Let's see
if I can get Sam to do this. Hello, Hey,
sing the Stanford fight song?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Go Stanford, Yes, win the game Stanford. It's gonna be
a great day. That's nice, all right, Yeah, all right,
I got I got the vice song. You actually know
the fights are.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
It's all right now, baby, it's that song Free.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
They just stole a song totally. You can't do that
for your fight song. A lot of my viewers think
I'm out of touch talk about being on the polo
team at Stanford, so.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It sounds it sounds a lot more glorious than it was. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
So I grew up riding horses and then I wanted
to ride some horses at Stanford. Went out to meet
the equestrian team people and they felt very elitist to me,
so I didn't really mesh with them. I was playing
volleyball with like pick up volleyball at night, and my
buddy said, oh, you should come out for the polo team. Sure,
(11:02):
so I went out and it was all very chill,
relaxed people. We had tons of horses, eighteen or twenty
horses to kind of be in charge of. It's not
a varsity sport, so it was not as glorious and
elitist as you think. But we did get to play
polo and rubelbows with some pretty fancy people.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Didn't you start by specializing on horses yet.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I entered vet school thinking I wanted to be an
equine veterary, a horse vet.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But then you realize horse people are awful and horses
are boring.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I don't want to say horse people are awful, Okay,
some horse people can be difficult to work with, and
horses can kill you pretty quick if they want. And
there's a lot of on call in the middle of
the night, often in mud, and it's not always a
very glorious profession. And I realized quickly I would rather
work indoors on dogs and cats and make enough money
(11:51):
to own a horse if I wanted one.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Do you own a horse?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Not?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Anymore?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Do you force people to call you doctor?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
I introduce myself as doctor two clients, Okay, if I
am not treating your pet, please don't call me doctor,
because my name is Adam Eddie.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Back there on his sky miles card, just put doctor
in front of it. And so whenever they like his
flight's about, they always are like doctor Goslin and he
just thinks he's coolest shit for that, And I'm like,
that is horse anyway, It's a stolen valor.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Is my issue with it.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's how come vets hire such alt kids to work
in their practice.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I think alt kids migrate toward ret and med.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
The amount of peer scenes I.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
See, piercings, tattoos, queer identity.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
They're just good. It's great.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I always felt like I was like, oh, this is
this is the hotbed. How many dogs do you think
you've saved?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
That's a great question that without you doing what you did,
would have died, not just been sore.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's probably a better question. So maybe half five thousand.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh Jesus, your specialty is what is it?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
The surgery? But which, sir, I'll do all surgeries?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Was your big one that I'm tpl o TP.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, it fixes the equivalent of the A c L
and people.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Okay c CL and dogs.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
But same structure, most common injury in dogs and dognies,
so very common surgery and they limp. No one likes
to see their dog limping, and the surgery does a
great job of making them not limp.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Gun to your head, Yeah, we take you right now.
We put you on an NBA team as the as
the doctor. Could you could you repair some acls.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
The way people are done? Though you couldn't do it,
couldn't It would be messy. So in dogs, we don't
replace the A C. L. And in people that's the main,
the mainstay. So I don't do ACL replacement. It's a
completely different surgery, changing the biomechanics. But gun to my head,
broken leg, no.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Problem, Okay, Yeah, so we can use you. Yeah, I'd
be great in a zombie apocalypse.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Exactly. Are you scared of any animals?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, I mean bears.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You ever worked on a bear?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yes, but it was a sleep uh huh by the
time I met it, you know, But in the wild.
I have got a place in Mammoth, so I'm up
there a lot, skiing and stuff, and so you know,
you don't want to run into a bear.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I had a bear come in my garage almost this summer,
really in Tahoe. I couldn't have been less worried about him.
I was just like, okay, first of his ear was tagged.
I'm like, the city knows what this bear does.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I'm not scared of bears in general. I'm scared of
running into a bear unexpectedly. And then bats for some reason, I.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Don't like a bat.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I don't trust their navigations, starre, unpredictable, too much,
erratic darting around.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Agreed.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I had a bat living in my umbrella recently at
my house.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
One of the table umbrella.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It was like by a pool, you know, next to
a few chairs.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But every time I pulled it up, he would fly out,
and I'm like, oh, no.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I have to get rid of this. Yeah, and I
did good.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I didn't. I'm not proud of what I did.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Oh you didn't just relocate him?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I felt like he kept coming back. Yeah, I didn't give.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It a shot. Okay, I got rid of him. Fair,
It's not.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm not my proudest moments.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, they are.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
They are one of the animals that can be a
source of rabies in California, so it's better to get.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I think he had rabies for sure. You ever perform
surgery on big cats?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Is a lion the same as a house cat internally?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yes? So they're just the stuff is just bigger, uh huh.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
At one of the hospitals I worked at, and we
worked with a big cat rescue out in Santa Clarita
or wherever it is I know, And so anytime they
have issues with their animals, they'd bring them to us.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They're great. They're huge. I mean, you know, their paws
are like this big.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
And I'm still allergic to big cats. I think that's fine. Really,
it's same as a house cat. I sneezed just as much.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, but yes, I have plenty of surgeries on big cats.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Do you ever do any funny photos with them while
they're under Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, everyone's got photos with them.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's so crazy how big they are.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I newed a lion once the balls were huge. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Did you at any point say who's the King of
the Jungle?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Did you like the movie ace Ventura when it came out?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, I'm a Jim Carrey fan.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
He was an animal doctor, right, Yeah, but the most
transphobic movie be in the history of movies.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, it doesn't hold up.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
A lot of those don't hold up.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
No, but that one is like off the charts. Imagine
that being pitched in a room today. And that's why
I always laugh when people are like, oh, things used
to be so much better. I'm like, for who you monster,
it's correct in your opinion? As a game, is that
community more or less likely to be faithful?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So monogamous and faithful I think are different.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yes they are. Let's go with monogamous.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Less likely.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You believe that I do. How about the vet community?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Is it Gray's anatomy in the animal hospital where everybody's
banging each other?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
There's no question the TV shows about vet hospitals would.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Be way better.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Okay, this is a serious question. Yeah, should we circumcise
our dogs?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
No, they don't have foreskin. They don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't. I don't think I knew that they didn't
have foreskin. Did you guys know that you didn't know that?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
No, it would be fun money in theory to be
like No, I wanted my dog's penis to look like
my penis.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The real question is this newter?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Six months or one year?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, that's a huge topic of debate. The research coming out,
especially in bigger dogs, is let them grow a little
bit longer.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Okay for bone health.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I waited a year and a half. No, I waited
a year and two months.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I mean, you know, if you're a responsible dog owner
and not letting them get out and impregnate dogs inappropriately,
and they are not developing behaviors that you don't like.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, it wasn't all over the house.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Right then It's fine. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
What about uh spain a dog? Do you recommend before
after the first period?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So when I went to at school, it was always
recommended before the first heat to decrease, decrease the chance
of memory cancer. Later that may or may not be
getting disproven, but I still I still recommend before the
first before that.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That's sixty six months.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
How long is that? That heat is like a month long?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, five to seven days.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I feel like I feel like I've seen a diaper
on a dog way longer than that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Eh, maybe she just had a heavy flow.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Your favorite surgery to perform as a vet is a
volvo plasty and female dogs, Now, do you think you've
earned these bitches trust more because you're.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
A gay man?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And can you explain vulvulplasty procedure since I still have
no idea how women work.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Right, So we call it a pisioplasty, same same prefix,
like a pisiotomy. Some female dogs have extra tissue that
sort of covers their volva opening, and so they can
get retention of urine and moisture and bacteria, and so
they get recurrent Your attraction infections, which can be very
(18:54):
uncomfortable and lots of return trips to the vet and.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Can turn into a kidney infection at some.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Point, can if it's left untreated.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
So the surgery is to remove that extra flap and
sort of expose the volva better, more naturally. And the
reason I like the surgery is it's pretty easy to
do and it really changes the dog's life.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
They are not painful anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
They're not going to the vet all the time, they're
not having these UTIs and having to urinate all the time.
And you do the surgery and after you know, the
two week recheck, the owner says, my dog is so
much happier. And that's what makes me feel so good
about it, is it really changes the quality of life
for the dog.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
You can diagnosis pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I can just look and see what's what do I
got to look for?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Just looks like there's an extra tissue over the back.
Carl was a girl, we could show you, but he's
not well. But if you want to look for his foreskin.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We can.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Can the owners keep the testicles no, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
But a lot of our like employees, sometimes want to
keep the testicles.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Why do they want to? I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Oh, man, I see that's the problem. The alt kids
hang out with the witch kids. The witch kids need
balls for their brew.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Sometimes they they say they're going to drive their make
ear rings out of them.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh jesus.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Do you ever do that cosmetic surgery where you put fake,
fake testicles in.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I've never put them in there, called neuticles. Some people
like the look of balls.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh yeah, some people.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I like those guys that have those truck nuts on
the back of the that's always nice, right. Is it
possible to switch? You get your testicle to jump to
the other sack.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Like the other side. No, they're divided.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Because as a child I used to just spend so much.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Time trying to get it over there.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Sure, why not, see if you get swap.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Them, just twist the whole thing around.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well yeah, I need to do that right.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And then everybody always had Did you guys have a
friend in high school or college that you always like?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You heard that he only had one testicle?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
No, I lived next to someone who live sext and
I lived next to someone who had three. You lived
next to somebody that had three testicles? TRIPI you call
them tripod? Yeah, wow, that seems weird.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
You don't sit on your balls, I mean you try
not to. All right, this has gone off the rails.
People that own lizards or snakes or mice, yep, are
they wasting the clinics time?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Small pets, hamsters, gerbils, reptiles, that's what we call exotics,
and they usually go to vets who focus on exotics.
By the time those things are sick, they're almost always
going to die.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Traditionally, do vets get paid well.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
General practitioners don't get paid as well as the public thinks.
They are probably coming out of school making seventy five
to eighty thousand dollars a year, which in Los Angeles
to own a house is pretty tough. Specialists are doing better,
you know, we do a lot more schooling and a
lot more training and have specialized equipment and skills. So
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I would say most specialists make it pretty decent living.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And then the number one cola I'm just guessing here,
the number one complaint from your customers is it's this
guy's too.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Expensive one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And the real thing is that the same stuff that
you use or equipment is the same stuff ye that
hospitals pay for humans, so it cost a fortune.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, so we're using all the same equipment, same drugs,
same supplies, same facilities. We obviously don't have health insurance
in the same way. PET insurance is all almost all
reimbursement insurance, but the big insurance companies negotiate with hospitals
will pay eighteen percent or whatever, so the prices are
increased dramatically so that the doctors and hospitals still make
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money from the insurance companies, whereas we just kind of
pay charge where our costs are. So an MRI, for example,
will be around two thousand or twenty two hundred dollars
for US human MRI twelve thousand, fifteen thousand, so you know,
but you don't see any of that because insurance pays
for it.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Should people get pet in insurance, Yes, they should.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I do. I used to never say yes.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And now you say definitively yes.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Six years ago, if you could put aside thirty five
hundred to five thousand dollars, you could cover an emergency.
Now it's probably ten to fifteen thousand dollars, and that's
a lot for most people, and so pet insurance takes
that pressure off. And there are some pet insurances that
are very good and we'll pay now.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
In twenty seventeen, you and three other friends open to
practice focused on ten different specialties. By twenty twenty, who
was doing around thirty million a year?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You sold it in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, And I don't want to get into specifics, but
answer this. Do you ever have to work another day
in your life?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Do I have to?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Probably not at a boy. I would have to change
my lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Do you read the reviews when people go on?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I've never read reviews. Okay, I don't like Yelp. I
think it's a small business killer. I think it's terrible service.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay, fuck Yelp. Yelp.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Are you a sponsor to this show? Because I will
flip on him in a second. Here's a problem I
see with your world.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
As a vet, you have to be a version of
on and it gets grueling and I just feel bad.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I don't tell people I'm a vet.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I've met many veterinarians who say they do other jobs
until you know them. One woman I met said she
sold insurance and then fifteen minutes into our conversation when
she found out I was a vet, she said, Oh,
I'm actually a vet too, But I don't never tell
people because I don't want to hear the questions.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
But when friends know that you're a vet, that's when
I think it's a lot because.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
My friends know they can ask me whatever they want.
And I get family from, you know, coming out of the woodwork,
this question that.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Com of shity.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Those are the people that you can't do it is.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But as a surgeon, sometimes it's very easy because I
can say I don't know that I'm lying, but I
can say.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That the other day, my wife leaves this farm the
farmer's market. When you go to the farmer's market, you're
supposed to come home with flowers, vegetables and maybe this
is some some bread that would be.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Nice, Yeah, fresh piet. Okay, yeah, here's.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
What my wife comes home with from the farmer's market.
Get here, I mean, okay, aw, my wife, it's amazing,
comes home with a pig. That's great, and she's like, huh,
her and her cousin like, we're gonna we're gonna co
own the pig. She lives right around the corner I'm like,
I know what this means. This means that now I
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own a pig for fifteen years ish, right, that I've
got to build on my property a pig and everything.
I'm just like, what everything? There's so much smart and
we're not one of these people. My wife's not an idiot,
although she behaves like one. You know, I know, like,
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it's seven and a half pounds now, she said that
most likely it'll be under fifty. Both of the parents
are like forty forty five, And I go, did she
the person that was trying to get rid of the pig?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It might be bigger, but it's really cute right now.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
And I'm okay if it's to be two hundred pounds,
but if it does, I'm forcing her to sleep with it. Okay,
Hey baby, what do I need to know?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
First of all?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So okay, so now I have a pig for the
rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right, you read up on pigs. I don't know anything
about pigs.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You don't know anything about pigs.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
No, I'm a dog cat vet.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Do you want to know what his name is?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
What is his name? Potato? That's a great name. It
looks better than bacon.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
It looks like he has underwear on little little pants. Hi, buddy,
it's okay. He's a little skittish and I don't want
to I don't want to make him scared and then
people yell at me for like.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What your to his tail does?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Here?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Pirl?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You want to snort for him?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
He's very cute.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Can you, as a vet prove to my listeners that
Karl is not a person in a dog suit because
everyone thinks that he's like just not a real dog.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
No, he's definitely a dog professional opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Carl's a dog, thank you? Yea wait, I like to
always have my dog.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
He feels great, right I don't have big dogs. No,
you can feel you can feel his ribs easily. But
there's some fat right over him. He'll live, he'll live
longer if he stays lean.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You want the dogs to be lean. Ye, I mean
he looks he looks big because he's.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Got his for Yeah, he feels great.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
If you had to guess how many animals have you
put down in your.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Career, I don't want to guess that. Three hundred mm hm.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You remember Randall?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Of course? How could I forget Randall?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
R I p buddy, that Dylan's dog.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I did. I did surgery on Randall.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
And then you put him down the next day. No,
by the way, I don't. It's it's a weird thing
for a vet to see you at You're such a
vulnerable spot, and it's like they're just like, hey, buddy,
I just got to do my gig here. It's just
I feel so bad. And then they bring somebody with
them too. By the way, he took a towel with
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me and never gave it back, and it was a
good towel. I mean, I felt like an asshole, be
like I kind of keep the towel, but he was like, oh,
there's my bit. My boy is gone, and I'm just
sobbing like a crazy person.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's just it is.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It is the worst day.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
It's the worst day.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
By a mile.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Here's this is the rule I go by. I always
have pets and dogs.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
If they're not going to the bathroom on their own
outside anymore, and stop eating and drinking. I'll give you
one to two days before you snap out of that. Yeah,
before we have to have the talk.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, it really depends on is there an acute disease
that you can fix or is this just I'm old
and this is what my life is now. I usually
tell people when they're thinking about it, pick the ten
things your pet loves the most, and when they stop
doing five of them, start thinking about it. Because you
don't want to wait till the worst day. Yeah right,
you don't want to make it to the point where
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I should have done this a week ago.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And that's what you need. You need a vet that
will just say, because these in la you've got people
that will do everything to preserve life.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You have no idea.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'm right, I don't, but you do. I can wrap
my head around it.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And I've always had you know my bad like get
a second opinion, but don't do anything. You know, it's kind.
That's it's almost what you need to hear. Like it's
it's the kids riddled in cancer, like just knock it off.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah I have.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I mean, this is a talk that you learned to
have as a veterinarian. There's a lot of things to
look at. You can give people the option of this
is what we can do, this is how much longer
it may buy you and how much it will cost,
and you can guide people appropriately. I've had people who
will mortgage their house for the hopes of one more
week with their dog, and I tell them this is
a terrible idea and time to let your dog go.
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And I've had people who have infinite money, which you
get a lot around LA who's like, yeah, nah, he's
had a good life. It's fine, And I'm like, all right,
I have gone a little further. But I never I
never questioned people once they've made the decision. I feel
like it's a very personal decision and I don't want
to interfere with.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It, okay, But to get extremely heavy, are we on
the same page with right to die for humans?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Absolutely? Like what are we doing in this country? Idea?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Knock it off, right, I mean it's I see it
routinely in my job. H And it's such a selfless
gift and blessing and such a way to go respectfully.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And when you see what these people are doing now,
like when they like travel to Oregon or Maine or
any of these states that allowed I don't know if
main one of them don't have hold me on that
like live there for sixty days before it's like just
let people go.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, I mean, if you're if you have a disease,
that is going to make you just get worse from
where you are, and you still have the wherewithal to
say I don't want to. I can't see anything wrong
with that.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
But I also don't understand why they don't, just like
you know what, live in a place where if they
don't have the means.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And they I feel like I could cook up a concoction.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean pretty easily.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
You don't even have to cook it up. The stuff exists. Well, no,
it's great stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
All right, let's put the recipe up on the bottom
of the screen right now, by the way. You can
give benadryl to a dog. Is there animal medicine that
we can take tons?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Okay, most of those safety studies are done on dogs,
so we know what's going to work for dogs. But
they take a lot of the same medications we do. Obviously,
there's the abuse concerned ones. They take xanax, they take prozac,
they take painkillers.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You know you ever worry about those some of those
alt kids dipping into your stash.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Everything's locked up and computer controlled.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
But there are some owners who ask for refills more
often than we think is necessary.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, what the fuck does flea medicine and heartworm and
tick medicine only work for one month.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
The way many flea and tick medications work without hurting
the animal. Inhibit certain functions that insects have that dogs don't,
so it only lasts a certain amount of time.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Some now last six months.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
There's some heartworm that are six months, some flea and
tick that are three months. They're trying to make it
easier for the owners to administer for compliance, but they
don't last forever.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, I do trifexus. Now tell me, I already know
that you probably have to answer it the right way.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But okay, you used to be surprised because I don't
know a lot about this.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Well, you get it for a weight range, and let's
just say that the weight range that my dog falls
and is in the forty to sixty pound range. Okay,
but I also have a ten pound dog at home.
So am I going to buy two different ones?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
No? I never have. I just buy the forty sixty.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I shave off a little for her and just give
her that part because he's only forty pounds, he's at
the bottom end, and I figure I'll just give you
a tenth of that tablet and.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Call it a day.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, I mean I think that will work, saving tons
of money.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I it's the same price no matter what weight you get. Yes,
what's the easiest dog to work on?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Pitbull? I think yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, they're pretty tolerant and usually very nice.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I mean until they're not, which is always the scary part.
My brother only has pipples.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I only have pipples. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
He thinks he's better than me because he rescues a piple.
But I think I'm better than him because I donate
way more to different shelters and things like that.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You're both great, I mean yeah, but I.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Think if you were, if you were to size it up,
who's going to get into heaven?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm going to go with you?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
What he's saving one dog, I'm saving thousands, that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
What do you think is zoos?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I don't bring my children to zoos because I've had
this hard line on zoos for so long. Yeah, tell
me I'm wrong and I can be a good dad.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I think zoos serve a very important purpose, introducing kids
to animals, letting them see them so that they can
be advocates for them, and they're not just these imaginary
things that they've talked about but never seen.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But good zoos.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Right, So you want zoos that don't cater to the public,
that they cater to the animal. That's I've never been
to San Barbara Zoo. LA Zoo doing great. They changed
a lot. They've made their enclosures much larger. They have
the animals on rotation so they be.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Out all the time. Where's the La Zoo located right
near Griffith Park? Going Santa Barba Zoo might be great?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I might be, but I'm not going until like it.
You're okay, all.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Right, I'll look into it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Thank you. Where are you at on many cows?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Anytime you breed for certain characteristics, you sacrifice natural characteristics.
They're probably sweet. Cows are not intelligent animals?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Is that why they spell things wrong on those Chick
fil a commercially exactly?
Speaker 4 (34:41):
You think they'd learned by now. I mean, they've had
so many years of practice.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Where are you at on Chick fil A? You boycott
it for life?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
For life?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Such a good chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Is?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I want to be with you. I want to be
with you. I'm there with you, and we will not
order it.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I will not go there and buy it. But someone
brought over the Chick fil a as to my house once,
the creamy one. It's delicious, but I won't buy.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It fair enough. How gross is expressing anal glands? Because
it honestly sounds like the.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Worst thing is it's exceptionally disgusting.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
What do you actually do?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
You stick your finger in the butt and then use
your thumb to squeeze the gland between your finger or thumb.
They live sort of in the muscles of the anis
and squeeze gently so that the material inside it. Again,
it gets squished out, ideally into a paper towel or
tissue with a glove on. The problem is sometimes it
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squirts aggressively and can get places that you don't want
it and smells terrible. And if it it just gets
on you, the smell is there for the day.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You can't wash around.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
How often do you need to do this?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I never do this.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
How often does a dog need to?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh? I have it? That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Most dogs, as they poop, it expresses the anal glands normally,
so they shouldn't have stuff in there all.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
You know, some people have that done once a week
for their dogs.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Once a week, But.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
You know if it happens at my hospital, I asked
my technicians to do that.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That is not something I do.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Can I do it at home? Can I learn how
to do it?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I know a lot of people who do it at home.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Oh my goodness, Carl got a new game.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
If he doesn't need it, it's probably not necessary to
put my fingers in his butt, that's correct, But legally
I'm allowed to.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
You can do whatever you want your own dog. I
think you're not doing harm.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Can't.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
You can't do activity as a veterinarian, so you can't
sell yourself as a veterinarian if you are not a veterinarian.
You probably can't do surgery on your own dog because
that's doing harm and you can't do it safely.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But you can groom your own dog. You don't have
to be groomer. You can express anal glands, brush teeth.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I don't even do the teeth. I I just pay
the money.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I've never rushed my dog's teeth.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Well, I haven't professionally brushed once. Every three months. My
old dog just has one tooth left shake. We left
one tooth in so that her tongue doesn't fall out.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I think it's kind of cute when their tongue.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
There's nothing cute about her at this age. They keep
telling me that she's going to keep living, and I'm like,
wellkn dog is she's a have Anees. She's fourteen. I
would say the past two years full dementia.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I love have an Ees. I do too.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
They are one of the breeds I used to recommend
people get.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
My favorite have anes that I ever had. I used
to do a show and he was on there all
the time, and when he died. Where are you at
on people cloning their dogs?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I think it's weird.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Okay, sure, but aside from that.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I think it's bad.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You think it's bad, yeah, I mean, you can't create
the same dog, right because dog it has to have
the exact same experiences. But if it did have the
exact same experiences, would it be the same dog?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
The issue that I usually have is we see people
who are in some sort of trauma state and their
dog is dying of something terrible, and then they want
to clone it. I'm like, your dog has cancer, you
want to make a new dog that has the same genetics,
so you're going to create cancer again? Like this is
not a smart idea.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Who did it?
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Who's the famous woman who did a bunch of times?
Barbara Streis streisand did it a bunch.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I'm not gonna say anything bad about Barbstraps. I can't
saything bad about kick that thing.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I didn't have my dog cloned, okay, but I worked
on a TV show where he was always on camera,
and so occasionally I would have to have a stand
in for him when he wasn't around. So I had
this company in China make me like fake versions of
my old dog. Now the problem is I still have
them and I refuse to get rid of them. Okay,
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but it literally is people that see this like, oh
my goodness, that's that's your old castro. It's just and
if it's in my house, like I'll just get.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh double take. Yeah, it's actually really good.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I can't get rid of it yet.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I'm not getting rid of it yet, but I keep
it in a box under my table.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I always give people that are my show gifts, but
it's just stuff that I don't want at my house.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Okay, great, So it's now it's going to be stuff
I don't want in my house. Correct, Great, but it'll
have emotional value for me.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
This I'm pretty sure I was supposed to return. I
never did.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah. That great.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You give that to your next customer for free instead
of gouging of eighty bucks. By the way, the soft
one is so much nicer the velcrow than the hard
plastic one that jabs them so hard into the neck. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I mean, a soft one like this that won't bend
is fine. That.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
The problem is when people get the soft ones that
bend and then the dog can chew it the incision
that I just spend so much time making pretty and
tear it apart.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
But if your dog doesn't lick the incision at all,
you don't need it at all.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Correct. Wow, that is not a question to ask, assurgeon.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I mean, because I've had a dog that like, wasn't
gonna lick it. I'm like, well, why am I putting
this on you? You're not going for it at all?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It's great?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
No, Okay, I hear what you're doing. Give that off
my desk please.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Okay. Do you play games at your cabin? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Do you play Monopoly?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Deal? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Do you know the game Monopoly deal.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah it's it's.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, yes, you have it.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I don't have it. Friends always brand.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Okay, this is my old deck. I have a new
deck in my house. Thank you so much, the best
game of Put this in your cabin. Okay, I also
got you a cabin book.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
This a really a dog. It's a good photo.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I don't know how many coffee table books you're supposed
to own, but my wife is coffee table books are
basically art for people that can't afford real art, is
what I'm learning, because we just have so many of them,
right And I'm like, so anyway, I just took one today.
I'm like, oh, here's one of the that's about dog.
Put this in your cabin and we'll see if my
wife ever knows that one book out of eight hundred disappeared.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
And you know what else.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
The thing is, I don't look at them because when
I do look at them, you break the spine. And
now it's not a pretty coffee table book anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Right now, it's a book.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Get that off my desk.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Get that off the desk.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I bought this one time, thinking a sound thing would
be a good thing. A training mechanism for the dog.
But what I realized was I'm torturing the other pets
in the house. Everyone gets tortured, right, So I'm like,
I can't have this fucking thing. I'm just trying to
tell Carl to shut up for one second.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
No, you need the ones that have like a vibrating caller.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Right, I got that one. This one has electric and vibrating.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
I've turned this thing up to twenty where I think
it would fry a chicken, and Carl just thinks it's funny.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, just like aah, just keeps sparking at it. So
I'm like, oh, I don't want that anymore. Are you
giving all these torture devices to me?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, well this I don't know. Maybe you hand it
to somebody.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Just told me that was a multiple animal torture dice.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You know how to responsibly regift something. Look, I even
have the paperwork still fantastic. Can I guarantee it?
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Just get rid of it please. Those are all the
gifts that I brought.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
For a second, I was like, oh, I'm gonna give
them one of my stand in fake clone dog stuffed animals.
That's sweet, and I go, I can't do it. I
can't get rid of it yet. Hey, they say you
recently had an injury while skiing. Yeah, so how long
are you going to milk this thing?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Well, I mean it was a pretty bad injury.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
When was it?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
May fifth? Sin good mile?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Oh why are you skiing so late into the season.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
I mean it's Mammoth goes on forever and it had
actually dumped ten inches a night before. It was a great,
great powder day. I raced in the morning in a
boarding for breast cancer race. I was the only skier
in my division, so I won congratulations. Then the top pop,
so I went up to the top. I had four
great runs off the top and then fifth run, missed
(42:17):
a turn on a tough run, tumbel down the mountain,
broke my right knee and a couple of bones in
my back before before coming to a rest on the mountain.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I had knee.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Surgery that night in Mammoth.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yeah, oh no, no, they've got good orthopedic surgeons there
ends all the time. I was laid up for two
months like not moving and then slowly rehabbing back.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
So you're buying your pass for this year.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It already bought opening days of ever fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Are you good?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
I'll ski, there's no question, will you?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Will you dial it.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Back whatever my knee lets me do, all right?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
But you don't want to put your I mean knees
and backs sort of things that you kind of want to,
you know.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Take care of on some the back held up real nice.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I'm going to get into this, yes, because I'm I ride,
I snowboard, I'll cross country as well. But I had
to move to Tahoe over Mammoth because this is this
is going to get me in trouble.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
The people Mammoth eh a bit much.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
In what way? I don't know, too grungey for you, yep, yep.
So that's why I love Mammoth. But you know, the
mountain's great, the season is long, it's far enough away
from LA that it doesn't get super busy maybe on
the weekends, and it's easy, you know for me, it's
a five hour drive.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Oh wait, hold on, we didn't talk about this. You're
glutting to die. Do you have your pilot's license or
you're getting.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It getting my pilot's license?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Why you love it?
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Flying is very exciting, scary, but the main mission is
to get to Mammoth faster.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
We were gonna buy like a little Sessna.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Looking at a Cerus.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
So you need a turbo to get to be able
to take off and land in the summer Mammoth just
because of the elevation, and.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
He landing an elevation is tricky from what I know
in the trucky airport. You know, I know a few
people that have had some mishaps, and yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Air density is a lot less, so you're the performance
of your plane is reduced.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
One time I had a pilot tell me.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
He's like, he's like, we'll just just fly into Reno then, man,
if you're worried about it, And I go, yeah, but
I don't want to drive an extra hour.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
And he's like, but you don't want to die, right,
But if I die, it's kind of like, all right, well,
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
No, but if I don't die, then I have to
drive an hour and I'm mad.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
You'd be happy that you're a life.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
You get my point. I do listen, you're becoming a
pilot just so your commute is short.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
That's correct.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
There's an airport in Bishop which is about forty minutes away,
So that's the option if you can't land at Mammoth.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
But what a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Right, Yeah, well listen, Adam, thank you for being on
the show.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
I appreciate it, pleasure. I had a great time, and.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I hope one day you can fly me up to Tahoe.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
We'll go over.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Man, Hey, look at those folks.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, well we'll ride together and talkho. That'll be fine. Done,
all right, thank you, thank you very much for sciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yep, Casha, Hey, I want to thank Adam for being
on the show. Carl, he says you're in tip top shape,
and I believe him. Now, if he said, hey, we
could get Carl in tip top shape, but it's gonna
cost five thousand dollars, I would be like, oh, think
(45:30):
it's time we have a serious talk. I'm kidding, Carl.
I couldn't put a price tag on what I would
spend to keep you healthy.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I mean I could.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
It's about five thousand.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Now that pig, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I don't know what I'm gonna do if he starts
tipping the scales upwards of fifty pounds and it keeps
climbing currently, you know, under eight under eight pounds.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
We'll see what happens. But uh, thanks adding for being
on the show. That was very nice.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
We got some plugs, boys wear Pink dot com. Pick
yourself up some toddler gear for the holidays. Tossshowstore dot com.
Carl guess what our merch for Toss Show the number
one seller Carl t shirt. Okay, and that money, it
goes right into your pocket. Now we're gonna be adding
(46:25):
new stuff to that real soon. I'd like to get
a trucker cap, maybe a beanie Eddie's tour go to
his website. Go to our website for my tour dates.
Got some Vegas new dates coming up, going to head
to the East coast. Oh, I'm gonna be on the
East coast. Gonna do the Midwest as well. In twenty
(46:48):
twenty five. Now it's time for the free plug go ahead.
I like that you're indifferent. Okay, the free plug music.
Wrap it up, all right, wrap it up, free plug music.
(47:12):
You're still going the most expensive thing about the free
plug free plug music. We got to get our money's work.
They're just gonna let her keep jamming. Do you like
music Carl. All right, today's free plug. This Friday, November fifteenth.
If you're anywhere between Madison Milwaukee and you want to
(47:34):
enjoy the best catch on Lake Koshkanong, come to the
Wisconsin Friday Fish Fry at Koshkanong Mounds Country Club.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Man. I love a fish fry.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
What kind of fish is in.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Kosh Kanong Walley? You think they got a freshwater salmon?
Probably trout. They definitely got trout. That sounds good. Well, anyway,
the clubhouse bar opens at eleven A dinner is served
from four to nine pm. Reservations are recommended, but not mandatory. Hey,
(48:09):
full menu will be available.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
You know some people don't like fish and they're gonna way. Hey,
you know I like your t bone. You think they
have a t bone there on the menu. Yeah, they
got a t bone. I used to want people to
call me t bones. You guys, guys started calling me
t bone bone. Hey, all right, let me get back
(48:33):
to this out plug. Also, you'll be pleased to know
that the Lake View upgrade project has already taken down
the wooden fence behind the wedding lawn, along with many
dead trees, so the view is even better now Wow,
that's the Wisconsin Friday Fish Fry on Lake Koshkonong.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
See you next week, guys,
Dogger cat owners?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Who's worse to deal with cat owners?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Is it by a mile?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
A mile? Like more than a mile?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Tosh Show, Tosh Show to show? Hey there, who knows
what time it is?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
We used to release these every week six am West
Coast time sharp. Now we're experimenting maybe we should release
them later in the day when traffic is a little
more lively.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So I don't know what time it is.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
But what I do know here at Toss Show, it's
a special day, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Do you know what today is?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Not sure what today is?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's our birthday?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What? No? No, no, no, no no?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
A happy birthday? Toss Show, A right happy? Is one
year old? Can you believe it? I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
In one year we have turned this little tiny podcast
into this.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Man, what a ride? What a ride?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So we're one year old? Sound sound the trumpets? Oh
my goodness, No, I want our artificial ones. I know
it's we're in birthday mode, but I have something else.
This is crazy. I was surfing the other day with Pierre,
you know, Pierre, the guy that eats hot dogs and
fucking random food. Anyway, my French buddy. We're surfing up
(01:43):
up north a bit on the PCH and my truck
is just parked on.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
The side of the road. We're going into the water.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And he goes, oh, hey, I need to lock this up,
and I'm like, yeah, you don't need to lock it up.
Nobody steals anything anymore. It's twenty twenty four. People stop stealing.
Just throw it in the back of the truck. He goes, no,
So I go and unlock my truck for him, and
he throws whatever he wanted not to get stolen anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
His story is stupid.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
We come out of the water from surfing and my belt,
my jeans, and my used boxer shorts were stolen from the.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Back of my truck. And this isn't like.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
This isn't a place where there's parking, there's no buildings around.
This is like the PCH like words empty. So so
somebody came by, went in the back of my truck,
took my jeans, belt and underwear, left my cashmere sweater,
left my shoes, left his clothes, All of his clothes
(02:47):
were in there. Didn't touch them, but just some unhoused
man got a pair of raging bone jeans, ted baker belt.
James Pursos, I mean all in all, I guarantee that's
over a thousand bucks.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Jerk, pretty good haul.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Hell of a hall anyway, Happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Birthday to you. Get you some boxes.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Holy cow, I can't believe we've done this for one year.
What's been your favorite episode, Eddie? I like the Astronauts,
Steve Astronaut.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
That was a good one.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
That guy gave me a little pea bag from space yeh,
from the Apollo Mission.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I still have that. I use it every day.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Who's your favorite guest? My favorite guest? Whatever one's not
viewed the most? That was my favorite. Come on, guys,
watch that one. I like all of them. They're like
children to me, you know, except for the one that
was my child. That one's actually my kids. It's been
a good year, and I was happy to do the show.
We are this is our last episode. No, I'm kidding.
(03:58):
We'll probably do the show for another twenty years. You
think we'll be here.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
For NuRD twenty Oh absolutely, Eddie. If you're here, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Let me ask you this. What's what have you learned
by doing this show. You've never really hosted a show
where you're just interviewing people constantly.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I learned that when you're interviewing somebody you got, you
gotta stay awake.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's pretty okay if you.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Not off during an interview. That lets them know that
you're not very interested in what they.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Have to say.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's a good sign.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
So the whole time, I'm just when they're talking, I'm
just like, don't fall asleep. By the way, this birthday,
you know, I know we didn't get any cake or anything,
but we we did get some hardware.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You see this.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
YouTube, Oh man, send us this. I don't know what
it is.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's a it's an award for passing one hundred thousand
subscribers eleven months ago.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
M h, well, I don't want this.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I don't like awards, So I will give this award,
says presented to Toss Show. I'll give that to whoever
makes the most comments on this video, and not just
you know, they have to be funny comments, but not
just one. I want like one hundred and fifty thousand.
I want one hundred and fifty thousand. Wow, just the
(05:23):
most comments that are enjoyable for me to read. I
don't know what I'm asking for exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Eddie, yep, Eddie, do you remember our first guest I
do it was Finky, a gay doctor. Now a year later,
this show has evolved. Today's guest is a gay doctor.
Enjoy Pasha. My guest today is a goddamn hero. He
(05:54):
is a gay man who has saved countless pussies and bitches.
His patients have names like Cinnamon, star Dust and Bigsby,
and they usually come to them when their owners have
allowed them to limp around for a couple of weeks
and hopes it would magically go away. Please welcome veterinarian
doctor Adam.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh, how are you. I'm great? How are you?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I'm doing really good? Thank you good first, well, thank
you for being here. Do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Absolutely, I mean absolutely, I believe in ghosts about pet ghosts,
of course.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh, so everything has a spirit.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Everything has a spirit if the spirit has a reason
to stay around.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh there's condition.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
If you don't have unfinished business, then you're just gone.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, you go off, do whatever else you do.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
But if you have unfinished business or there's another lesson
to learn, you stay around.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Until you learn it. Sure, horseshit, I gotta learn stuff
after I die. There's no chance I die and I've
finished everything that I needed.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
To do or that's why you get more chances.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, it's really convenient.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, you were born and raised in La brent Woods
typically give our audience a better understanding of geography. How
close was your childhood home to Oj Simpson?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So I went to school at Brentwood High. I was
actually raised in Chevy at Hills, but the school was
about a mile and a half from OJ's house.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Do you remember that night as a kid?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I wasn't a kid, I was. I was home from college. Okay,
I was home. I was actually eating at the Islands
that used to be on Pico and Veteran.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You what kind of burger you go with?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Big Way with cheese, no question, And we were watching
the low Speed car race on the television, so they
all had TVs.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So I remember that day very well.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You still like a burger?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I do.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Actually, we just took my mom to Islands for her
birthday as like a nostalgic celebration because she used to
take us and I got the same thing.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That's very sweet. Yeah, have you always loved animals?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
How many pets did you have growing up?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
The first pet was a goldfish, but then a bird,
and then we got a dog when I was nine.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Maybe what kind of bird?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Did you have a little cockatil?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'm not a bird fan. I love him in the wild.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, I'm not really a bird fan either. The birds
we deal with as Venerians are sick and mean.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Not really.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I wanted a pelican for a long time, but Pete
told me, they said, knock it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Off, Daniel, pelican. Pelican would be rough.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh but it's such a neat animal, you know. I
just like that.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
They hang out on peers, talk to old fishermen all
day long. Then they fly, they swim.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
So you want like a wild pelican friend, Yeah, not
a pelican in the house.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I basically want a childhood story. Okay, I like that
come to life. Yes, when did you come out?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
When I was eighteen? Christmas break? Freshman year of college?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How'd your parents handle it?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Great?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Did they know?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
My mom knew?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Did she really?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Or she just say she because Mom's always say I knew,
and there's like, you didn't fucking know?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Shit, Lady.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Two of her very close friends were a gay couple,
and she had mentioned to them that she thought I
was gay, And that year I think we had Thanksgiving
and they came to Think Giving dinner and they didn't
confirm or deny to her, so she assumed since they
didn't say anything, they didn't want to tell her.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So she did they know?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Did you let them know?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I don't, Well I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, it's all like they have special powers to know
they do.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I had a best friend come out like when he
was like thirty seven to me. I was like like, no,
my whole life never just had buried it, buried it,
And I was so mad at myself. I'm like, how
in the world you pull this off? You went to
school at Stanford again Stanford. We've had five people now
on this show they went to Stanford. It's basically an
(09:41):
intellectual podcast that dabbles in comedy.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Pete's wife does a bit always makes me laugh. Wherever
I say a college, I go, hey, sing their fight song,
and then she just starts singing it and it makes
me laugh. And she doesn't know anything about sports. Let's
see if she'll do it on the fly. Let's see
if I can get Sam to do this. Hello, Hey,
sing the Stanford fight song?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Go Stanford, Yes, win the game Stanford. It's gonna be
a great day. That's nice, all right, Yeah, all right,
I got I got the vice song. You actually know
the fights are.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
It's all right now, baby, it's that song Free.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
They just stole a song totally. You can't do that
for your fight song. A lot of my viewers think
I'm out of touch talk about being on the polo
team at Stanford, so.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It sounds it sounds a lot more glorious than it was. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
So I grew up riding horses and then I wanted
to ride some horses at Stanford. Went out to meet
the equestrian team people and they felt very elitist to me,
so I didn't really mesh with them. I was playing
volleyball with like pick up volleyball at night, and my
buddy said, oh, you should come out for the polo team. Sure,
(11:02):
so I went out and it was all very chill,
relaxed people. We had tons of horses, eighteen or twenty
horses to kind of be in charge of. It's not
a varsity sport, so it was not as glorious and
elitist as you think. But we did get to play
polo and rubelbows with some pretty fancy people.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Didn't you start by specializing on horses yet.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I entered vet school thinking I wanted to be an
equine veterary, a horse vet.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But then you realize horse people are awful and horses
are boring.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I don't want to say horse people are awful, Okay,
some horse people can be difficult to work with, and
horses can kill you pretty quick if they want. And
there's a lot of on call in the middle of
the night, often in mud, and it's not always a
very glorious profession. And I realized quickly I would rather
work indoors on dogs and cats and make enough money
(11:51):
to own a horse if I wanted one.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Do you own a horse?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Not?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Anymore?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Do you force people to call you doctor?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
I introduce myself as doctor two clients, Okay, if I
am not treating your pet, please don't call me doctor,
because my name is Adam Eddie.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Back there on his sky miles card, just put doctor
in front of it. And so whenever they like his
flight's about, they always are like doctor Goslin and he
just thinks he's coolest shit for that, And I'm like,
that is horse anyway, It's a stolen valor.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Is my issue with it.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's how come vets hire such alt kids to work
in their practice.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I think alt kids migrate toward ret and med.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
The amount of peer scenes I.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
See, piercings, tattoos, queer identity.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
They're just good. It's great.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I always felt like I was like, oh, this is
this is the hotbed. How many dogs do you think
you've saved?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
That's a great question that without you doing what you did,
would have died, not just been sore.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's probably a better question. So maybe half five thousand.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh Jesus, your specialty is what is it?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
The surgery? But which, sir, I'll do all surgeries?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Was your big one that I'm tpl o TP.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, it fixes the equivalent of the A c L
and people.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Okay c CL and dogs.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
But same structure, most common injury in dogs and dognies,
so very common surgery and they limp. No one likes
to see their dog limping, and the surgery does a
great job of making them not limp.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Gun to your head, Yeah, we take you right now.
We put you on an NBA team as the as
the doctor. Could you could you repair some acls.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
The way people are done? Though you couldn't do it,
couldn't It would be messy. So in dogs, we don't
replace the A C. L. And in people that's the main,
the mainstay. So I don't do ACL replacement. It's a
completely different surgery, changing the biomechanics. But gun to my head,
broken leg, no.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Problem, Okay, Yeah, so we can use you. Yeah, I'd
be great in a zombie apocalypse.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Exactly. Are you scared of any animals?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, I mean bears.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You ever worked on a bear?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yes, but it was a sleep uh huh by the
time I met it, you know, But in the wild.
I have got a place in Mammoth, so I'm up
there a lot, skiing and stuff, and so you know,
you don't want to run into a bear.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I had a bear come in my garage almost this summer,
really in Tahoe. I couldn't have been less worried about him.
I was just like, okay, first of his ear was tagged.
I'm like, the city knows what this bear does.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I'm not scared of bears in general. I'm scared of
running into a bear unexpectedly. And then bats for some reason, I.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Don't like a bat.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I don't trust their navigations, starre, unpredictable, too much,
erratic darting around.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Agreed.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I had a bat living in my umbrella recently at
my house.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
One of the table umbrella.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It was like by a pool, you know, next to
a few chairs.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But every time I pulled it up, he would fly out,
and I'm like, oh, no.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I have to get rid of this. Yeah, and I
did good.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I didn't. I'm not proud of what I did.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Oh you didn't just relocate him?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I felt like he kept coming back. Yeah, I didn't give.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It a shot. Okay, I got rid of him. Fair,
It's not.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm not my proudest moments.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay, they are.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
They are one of the animals that can be a
source of rabies in California, so it's better to get.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I think he had rabies for sure. You ever perform
surgery on big cats?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Is a lion the same as a house cat internally?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yes? So they're just the stuff is just bigger, uh huh.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
At one of the hospitals I worked at, and we
worked with a big cat rescue out in Santa Clarita
or wherever it is I know, And so anytime they
have issues with their animals, they'd bring them to us.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They're great. They're huge. I mean, you know, their paws
are like this big.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
And I'm still allergic to big cats. I think that's fine. Really,
it's same as a house cat. I sneezed just as much.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, but yes, I have plenty of surgeries on big cats.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Do you ever do any funny photos with them while
they're under Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, everyone's got photos with them.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's so crazy how big they are.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I newed a lion once the balls were huge. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Did you at any point say who's the King of
the Jungle?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Now?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Did you like the movie ace Ventura when it came out?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, I'm a Jim Carrey fan.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
He was an animal doctor, right, Yeah, but the most
transphobic movie be in the history of movies.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, it doesn't hold up.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
A lot of those don't hold up.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
No, but that one is like off the charts. Imagine
that being pitched in a room today. And that's why
I always laugh when people are like, oh, things used
to be so much better. I'm like, for who you monster,
it's correct in your opinion? As a game, is that
community more or less likely to be faithful?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So monogamous and faithful I think are different.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yes they are. Let's go with monogamous.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Less likely.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You believe that I do. How about the vet community?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Is it Gray's anatomy in the animal hospital where everybody's
banging each other?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
There's no question the TV shows about vet hospitals would.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Be way better.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Okay, this is a serious question. Yeah, should we circumcise
our dogs?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
No, they don't have foreskin. They don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't. I don't think I knew that they didn't
have foreskin. Did you guys know that you didn't know that?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
No, it would be fun money in theory to be
like No, I wanted my dog's penis to look like
my penis.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The real question is this newter?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Six months or one year?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, that's a huge topic of debate. The research coming out,
especially in bigger dogs, is let them grow a little
bit longer.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Okay for bone health.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I waited a year and a half. No, I waited
a year and two months.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I mean, you know, if you're a responsible dog owner
and not letting them get out and impregnate dogs inappropriately,
and they are not developing behaviors that you don't like.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, it wasn't all over the house.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Right then It's fine. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
What about uh spain a dog? Do you recommend before
after the first period?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So when I went to at school, it was always
recommended before the first heat to decrease, decrease the chance
of memory cancer. Later that may or may not be
getting disproven, but I still I still recommend before the
first before that.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That's sixty six months.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
How long is that? That heat is like a month long?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, five to seven days.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I feel like I feel like I've seen a diaper
on a dog way longer than that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Eh, maybe she just had a heavy flow.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Your favorite surgery to perform as a vet is a
volvo plasty and female dogs, Now, do you think you've
earned these bitches trust more because you're.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
A gay man?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And can you explain vulvulplasty procedure since I still have
no idea how women work.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Right, So we call it a pisioplasty, same same prefix,
like a pisiotomy. Some female dogs have extra tissue that
sort of covers their volva opening, and so they can
get retention of urine and moisture and bacteria, and so
they get recurrent Your attraction infections, which can be very
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uncomfortable and lots of return trips to the vet and.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Can turn into a kidney infection at some.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Point, can if it's left untreated.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
So the surgery is to remove that extra flap and
sort of expose the volva better, more naturally. And the
reason I like the surgery is it's pretty easy to
do and it really changes the dog's life.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
They are not painful anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
They're not going to the vet all the time, they're
not having these UTIs and having to urinate all the time.
And you do the surgery and after you know, the
two week recheck, the owner says, my dog is so
much happier. And that's what makes me feel so good
about it, is it really changes the quality of life
for the dog.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
You can diagnosis pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I can just look and see what's what do I
got to look for?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Just looks like there's an extra tissue over the back.
Carl was a girl, we could show you, but he's
not well. But if you want to look for his foreskin.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We can.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Can the owners keep the testicles no, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
But a lot of our like employees, sometimes want to
keep the testicles.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Why do they want to? I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Oh, man, I see that's the problem. The alt kids
hang out with the witch kids. The witch kids need
balls for their brew.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Sometimes they they say they're going to drive their make
ear rings out of them.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh jesus.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Do you ever do that cosmetic surgery where you put fake,
fake testicles in.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I've never put them in there, called neuticles. Some people
like the look of balls.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh yeah, some people.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I like those guys that have those truck nuts on
the back of the that's always nice, right. Is it
possible to switch? You get your testicle to jump to
the other sack.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Like the other side. No, they're divided.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Because as a child I used to just spend so much.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Time trying to get it over there.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Sure, why not, see if you get swap.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Them, just twist the whole thing around.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well yeah, I need to do that right.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
And then everybody always had Did you guys have a
friend in high school or college that you always like?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You heard that he only had one testicle?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
No, I lived next to someone who live sext and
I lived next to someone who had three. You lived
next to somebody that had three testicles? TRIPI you call
them tripod? Yeah, wow, that seems weird.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
You don't sit on your balls, I mean you try
not to. All right, this has gone off the rails.
People that own lizards or snakes or mice, yep, are
they wasting the clinics time?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Small pets, hamsters, gerbils, reptiles, that's what we call exotics,
and they usually go to vets who focus on exotics.
By the time those things are sick, they're almost always
going to die.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Traditionally, do vets get paid well.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
General practitioners don't get paid as well as the public thinks.
They are probably coming out of school making seventy five
to eighty thousand dollars a year, which in Los Angeles
to own a house is pretty tough. Specialists are doing better,
you know, we do a lot more schooling and a
lot more training and have specialized equipment and skills. So
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I would say most specialists make it pretty decent living.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And then the number one cola I'm just guessing here,
the number one complaint from your customers is it's this
guy's too.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Expensive one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And the real thing is that the same stuff that
you use or equipment is the same stuff ye that
hospitals pay for humans, so it cost a fortune.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, so we're using all the same equipment, same drugs,
same supplies, same facilities. We obviously don't have health insurance
in the same way. PET insurance is all almost all
reimbursement insurance, but the big insurance companies negotiate with hospitals
will pay eighteen percent or whatever, so the prices are
increased dramatically so that the doctors and hospitals still make
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money from the insurance companies, whereas we just kind of
pay charge where our costs are. So an MRI, for example,
will be around two thousand or twenty two hundred dollars
for US human MRI twelve thousand, fifteen thousand, so you know,
but you don't see any of that because insurance pays
for it.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Should people get pet in insurance, Yes, they should.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I do. I used to never say yes.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And now you say definitively yes.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Six years ago, if you could put aside thirty five
hundred to five thousand dollars, you could cover an emergency.
Now it's probably ten to fifteen thousand dollars, and that's
a lot for most people, and so pet insurance takes
that pressure off. And there are some pet insurances that
are very good and we'll pay now.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
In twenty seventeen, you and three other friends open to
practice focused on ten different specialties. By twenty twenty, who
was doing around thirty million a year?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You sold it in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, And I don't want to get into specifics, but
answer this. Do you ever have to work another day
in your life?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Do I have to?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Probably not at a boy. I would have to change
my lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Do you read the reviews when people go on?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I've never read reviews. Okay, I don't like Yelp. I
think it's a small business killer. I think it's terrible service.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay, fuck Yelp. Yelp.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Are you a sponsor to this show? Because I will
flip on him in a second. Here's a problem I
see with your world.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
As a vet, you have to be a version of
on and it gets grueling and I just feel bad.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I don't tell people I'm a vet.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I've met many veterinarians who say they do other jobs
until you know them. One woman I met said she
sold insurance and then fifteen minutes into our conversation when
she found out I was a vet, she said, Oh,
I'm actually a vet too, But I don't never tell
people because I don't want to hear the questions.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
But when friends know that you're a vet, that's when
I think it's a lot because.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
My friends know they can ask me whatever they want.
And I get family from, you know, coming out of the woodwork,
this question that.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Com of shity.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Those are the people that you can't do it is.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But as a surgeon, sometimes it's very easy because I
can say I don't know that I'm lying, but I
can say.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That the other day, my wife leaves this farm the
farmer's market. When you go to the farmer's market, you're
supposed to come home with flowers, vegetables and maybe this
is some some bread that would be.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Nice, Yeah, fresh piet. Okay, yeah, here's.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
What my wife comes home with from the farmer's market.
Get here, I mean, okay, aw, my wife, it's amazing,
comes home with a pig. That's great, and she's like, huh,
her and her cousin like, we're gonna we're gonna co
own the pig. She lives right around the corner I'm like,
I know what this means. This means that now I
(25:31):
own a pig for fifteen years ish, right, that I've
got to build on my property a pig and everything.
I'm just like, what everything? There's so much smart and
we're not one of these people. My wife's not an idiot,
although she behaves like one. You know, I know, like,
(25:52):
it's seven and a half pounds now, she said that
most likely it'll be under fifty. Both of the parents
are like forty forty five, And I go, did she
the person that was trying to get rid of the pig?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It might be bigger, but it's really cute right now.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
And I'm okay if it's to be two hundred pounds,
but if it does, I'm forcing her to sleep with it. Okay,
Hey baby, what do I need to know?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
First of all?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
So okay, so now I have a pig for the
rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Right, you read up on pigs. I don't know anything
about pigs.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You don't know anything about pigs.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
No, I'm a dog cat vet.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Do you want to know what his name is?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
What is his name? Potato? That's a great name. It
looks better than bacon.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
It looks like he has underwear on little little pants. Hi, buddy,
it's okay. He's a little skittish and I don't want
to I don't want to make him scared and then
people yell at me for like.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What your to his tail does?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Here?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Pirl?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You want to snort for him?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
He's very cute.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Can you, as a vet prove to my listeners that
Karl is not a person in a dog suit because
everyone thinks that he's like just not a real dog.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
No, he's definitely a dog professional opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Carl's a dog, thank you? Yea wait, I like to
always have my dog.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
He feels great, right I don't have big dogs. No,
you can feel you can feel his ribs easily. But
there's some fat right over him. He'll live, he'll live
longer if he stays lean.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You want the dogs to be lean. Ye, I mean
he looks he looks big because he's.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Got his for Yeah, he feels great.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
If you had to guess how many animals have you
put down in your.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Career, I don't want to guess that. Three hundred mm hm.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You remember Randall?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Of course? How could I forget Randall?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
R I p buddy, that Dylan's dog.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I did. I did surgery on Randall.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
And then you put him down the next day. No,
by the way, I don't. It's it's a weird thing
for a vet to see you at You're such a
vulnerable spot, and it's like they're just like, hey, buddy,
I just got to do my gig here. It's just
I feel so bad. And then they bring somebody with
them too. By the way, he took a towel with
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me and never gave it back, and it was a
good towel. I mean, I felt like an asshole, be
like I kind of keep the towel, but he was like, oh,
there's my bit. My boy is gone, and I'm just
sobbing like a crazy person.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's just it is.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It is the worst day.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
It's the worst day.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
By a mile.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Here's this is the rule I go by. I always
have pets and dogs.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
If they're not going to the bathroom on their own
outside anymore, and stop eating and drinking. I'll give you
one to two days before you snap out of that. Yeah,
before we have to have the talk.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, it really depends on is there an acute disease
that you can fix or is this just I'm old
and this is what my life is now. I usually
tell people when they're thinking about it, pick the ten
things your pet loves the most, and when they stop
doing five of them, start thinking about it. Because you
don't want to wait till the worst day. Yeah right,
you don't want to make it to the point where
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I should have done this a week ago.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And that's what you need. You need a vet that
will just say, because these in la you've got people
that will do everything to preserve life.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You have no idea.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'm right, I don't, but you do. I can wrap
my head around it.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And I've always had you know my bad like get
a second opinion, but don't do anything. You know, it's kind.
That's it's almost what you need to hear. Like it's
it's the kids riddled in cancer, like just knock it off.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah I have.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I mean, this is a talk that you learned to
have as a veterinarian. There's a lot of things to
look at. You can give people the option of this
is what we can do, this is how much longer
it may buy you and how much it will cost,
and you can guide people appropriately. I've had people who
will mortgage their house for the hopes of one more
week with their dog, and I tell them this is
a terrible idea and time to let your dog go.
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And I've had people who have infinite money, which you
get a lot around LA who's like, yeah, nah, he's
had a good life. It's fine, And I'm like, all right,
I have gone a little further. But I never I
never questioned people once they've made the decision. I feel
like it's a very personal decision and I don't want
to interfere with.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It, okay, But to get extremely heavy, are we on
the same page with right to die for humans?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Absolutely? Like what are we doing in this country? Idea?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Knock it off, right, I mean it's I see it
routinely in my job. H And it's such a selfless
gift and blessing and such a way to go respectfully.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And when you see what these people are doing now,
like when they like travel to Oregon or Maine or
any of these states that allowed I don't know if
main one of them don't have hold me on that
like live there for sixty days before it's like just
let people go.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, I mean, if you're if you have a disease,
that is going to make you just get worse from
where you are, and you still have the wherewithal to
say I don't want to. I can't see anything wrong
with that.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
But I also don't understand why they don't, just like
you know what, live in a place where if they
don't have the means.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And they I feel like I could cook up a concoction.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean pretty easily.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
You don't even have to cook it up. The stuff exists. Well, no,
it's great stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
All right, let's put the recipe up on the bottom
of the screen right now, by the way. You can
give benadryl to a dog. Is there animal medicine that
we can take tons?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Okay, most of those safety studies are done on dogs,
so we know what's going to work for dogs. But
they take a lot of the same medications we do. Obviously,
there's the abuse concerned ones. They take xanax, they take prozac,
they take painkillers.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You know you ever worry about those some of those
alt kids dipping into your stash.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Everything's locked up and computer controlled.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
But there are some owners who ask for refills more
often than we think is necessary.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, what the fuck does flea medicine and heartworm and
tick medicine only work for one month.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
The way many flea and tick medications work without hurting
the animal. Inhibit certain functions that insects have that dogs don't,
so it only lasts a certain amount of time.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Some now last six months.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
There's some heartworm that are six months, some flea and
tick that are three months. They're trying to make it
easier for the owners to administer for compliance, but they
don't last forever.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, I do trifexus. Now tell me, I already know
that you probably have to answer it the right way.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But okay, you used to be surprised because I don't
know a lot about this.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Well, you get it for a weight range, and let's
just say that the weight range that my dog falls
and is in the forty to sixty pound range. Okay,
but I also have a ten pound dog at home.
So am I going to buy two different ones?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
No? I never have. I just buy the forty sixty.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I shave off a little for her and just give
her that part because he's only forty pounds, he's at
the bottom end, and I figure I'll just give you
a tenth of that tablet and.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Call it a day.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, I mean I think that will work, saving tons
of money.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I it's the same price no matter what weight you get. Yes,
what's the easiest dog to work on?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Pitbull? I think yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, they're pretty tolerant and usually very nice.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I mean until they're not, which is always the scary part.
My brother only has pipples.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I only have pipples. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
He thinks he's better than me because he rescues a piple.
But I think I'm better than him because I donate
way more to different shelters and things like that.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You're both great, I mean yeah, but I.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Think if you were, if you were to size it up,
who's going to get into heaven?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm going to go with you?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
What he's saving one dog, I'm saving thousands, that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
What do you think is zoos?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I don't bring my children to zoos because I've had
this hard line on zoos for so long. Yeah, tell
me I'm wrong and I can be a good dad.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I think zoos serve a very important purpose, introducing kids
to animals, letting them see them so that they can
be advocates for them, and they're not just these imaginary
things that they've talked about but never seen.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But good zoos.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Right, So you want zoos that don't cater to the public,
that they cater to the animal. That's I've never been
to San Barbara Zoo. LA Zoo doing great. They changed
a lot. They've made their enclosures much larger. They have
the animals on rotation so they be.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Out all the time. Where's the La Zoo located right
near Griffith Park? Going Santa Barba Zoo might be great?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I might be, but I'm not going until like it.
You're okay, all.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Right, I'll look into it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Thank you. Where are you at on many cows?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Anytime you breed for certain characteristics, you sacrifice natural characteristics.
They're probably sweet. Cows are not intelligent animals?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Is that why they spell things wrong on those Chick
fil a commercially exactly?
Speaker 4 (34:41):
You think they'd learned by now. I mean, they've had
so many years of practice.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Where are you at on Chick fil A? You boycott
it for life?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
For life?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Such a good chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Is?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I want to be with you. I want to be
with you. I'm there with you, and we will not
order it.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I will not go there and buy it. But someone
brought over the Chick fil a as to my house once,
the creamy one. It's delicious, but I won't buy.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It fair enough. How gross is expressing anal glands? Because
it honestly sounds like the.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Worst thing is it's exceptionally disgusting.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
What do you actually do?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
You stick your finger in the butt and then use
your thumb to squeeze the gland between your finger or thumb.
They live sort of in the muscles of the anis
and squeeze gently so that the material inside it. Again,
it gets squished out, ideally into a paper towel or
tissue with a glove on. The problem is sometimes it
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squirts aggressively and can get places that you don't want
it and smells terrible. And if it it just gets
on you, the smell is there for the day.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You can't wash around.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
How often do you need to do this?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I never do this.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
How often does a dog need to?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh? I have it? That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Most dogs, as they poop, it expresses the anal glands normally,
so they shouldn't have stuff in there all.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
You know, some people have that done once a week
for their dogs.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Once a week, But.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
You know if it happens at my hospital, I asked
my technicians to do that.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That is not something I do.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Can I do it at home? Can I learn how
to do it?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I know a lot of people who do it at home.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Oh my goodness, Carl got a new game.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
If he doesn't need it, it's probably not necessary to
put my fingers in his butt, that's correct, But legally
I'm allowed to.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
You can do whatever you want your own dog. I
think you're not doing harm.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Can't.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
You can't do activity as a veterinarian, so you can't
sell yourself as a veterinarian if you are not a veterinarian.
You probably can't do surgery on your own dog because
that's doing harm and you can't do it safely.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But you can groom your own dog. You don't have
to be groomer. You can express anal glands, brush teeth.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I don't even do the teeth. I I just pay
the money.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I've never rushed my dog's teeth.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Well, I haven't professionally brushed once. Every three months. My
old dog just has one tooth left shake. We left
one tooth in so that her tongue doesn't fall out.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I think it's kind of cute when their tongue.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
There's nothing cute about her at this age. They keep
telling me that she's going to keep living, and I'm like,
wellkn dog is she's a have Anees. She's fourteen. I
would say the past two years full dementia.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I love have an Ees. I do too.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
They are one of the breeds I used to recommend
people get.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
My favorite have anes that I ever had. I used
to do a show and he was on there all
the time, and when he died. Where are you at
on people cloning their dogs?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I think it's weird.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Okay, sure, but aside from that.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I think it's bad.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You think it's bad, yeah, I mean, you can't create
the same dog, right because dog it has to have
the exact same experiences. But if it did have the
exact same experiences, would it be the same dog?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
The issue that I usually have is we see people
who are in some sort of trauma state and their
dog is dying of something terrible, and then they want
to clone it. I'm like, your dog has cancer, you
want to make a new dog that has the same genetics,
so you're going to create cancer again? Like this is
not a smart idea.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Who did it?
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Who's the famous woman who did a bunch of times?
Barbara Streis streisand did it a bunch.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I'm not gonna say anything bad about Barbstraps. I can't
saything bad about kick that thing.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I didn't have my dog cloned, okay, but I worked
on a TV show where he was always on camera,
and so occasionally I would have to have a stand
in for him when he wasn't around. So I had
this company in China make me like fake versions of
my old dog. Now the problem is I still have
them and I refuse to get rid of them. Okay,
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but it literally is people that see this like, oh
my goodness, that's that's your old castro. It's just and
if it's in my house, like I'll just get.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Oh double take. Yeah, it's actually really good.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I can't get rid of it yet.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I'm not getting rid of it yet, but I keep
it in a box under my table.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I always give people that are my show gifts, but
it's just stuff that I don't want at my house.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Okay, great, So it's now it's going to be stuff
I don't want in my house. Correct, Great, but it'll
have emotional value for me.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
This I'm pretty sure I was supposed to return. I
never did.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah. That great.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You give that to your next customer for free instead
of gouging of eighty bucks. By the way, the soft
one is so much nicer the velcrow than the hard
plastic one that jabs them so hard into the neck. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I mean, a soft one like this that won't bend
is fine. That.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
The problem is when people get the soft ones that
bend and then the dog can chew it the incision
that I just spend so much time making pretty and
tear it apart.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
But if your dog doesn't lick the incision at all,
you don't need it at all.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Correct. Wow, that is not a question to ask, assurgeon.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I mean, because I've had a dog that like, wasn't
gonna lick it. I'm like, well, why am I putting
this on you? You're not going for it at all?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It's great?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
No, Okay, I hear what you're doing. Give that off
my desk please.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Okay. Do you play games at your cabin? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Do you play Monopoly?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Deal? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Do you know the game Monopoly deal.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah it's it's.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, yes, you have it.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I don't have it. Friends always brand.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Okay, this is my old deck. I have a new
deck in my house. Thank you so much, the best
game of Put this in your cabin. Okay, I also
got you a cabin book.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
This a really a dog. It's a good photo.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I don't know how many coffee table books you're supposed
to own, but my wife is coffee table books are
basically art for people that can't afford real art, is
what I'm learning, because we just have so many of them,
right And I'm like, so anyway, I just took one today.
I'm like, oh, here's one of the that's about dog.
Put this in your cabin and we'll see if my
wife ever knows that one book out of eight hundred disappeared.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
And you know what else.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
The thing is, I don't look at them because when
I do look at them, you break the spine. And
now it's not a pretty coffee table book anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Right now, it's a book.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Get that off my desk.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Get that off the desk.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I bought this one time, thinking a sound thing would
be a good thing. A training mechanism for the dog.
But what I realized was I'm torturing the other pets
in the house. Everyone gets tortured, right, So I'm like,
I can't have this fucking thing. I'm just trying to
tell Carl to shut up for one second.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
No, you need the ones that have like a vibrating caller.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Right, I got that one. This one has electric and vibrating.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
I've turned this thing up to twenty where I think
it would fry a chicken, and Carl just thinks it's funny.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, just like aah, just keeps sparking at it. So
I'm like, oh, I don't want that anymore. Are you
giving all these torture devices to me?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, well this I don't know. Maybe you hand it
to somebody.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Just told me that was a multiple animal torture dice.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You know how to responsibly regift something. Look, I even
have the paperwork still fantastic. Can I guarantee it?
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Just get rid of it please. Those are all the
gifts that I brought.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
For a second, I was like, oh, I'm gonna give
them one of my stand in fake clone dog stuffed animals.
That's sweet, and I go, I can't do it. I
can't get rid of it yet. Hey, they say you
recently had an injury while skiing. Yeah, so how long
are you going to milk this thing?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Well, I mean it was a pretty bad injury.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
When was it?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
May fifth? Sin good mile?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Oh why are you skiing so late into the season.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
I mean it's Mammoth goes on forever and it had
actually dumped ten inches a night before. It was a great,
great powder day. I raced in the morning in a
boarding for breast cancer race. I was the only skier
in my division, so I won congratulations. Then the top pop,
so I went up to the top. I had four
great runs off the top and then fifth run, missed
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a turn on a tough run, tumbel down the mountain,
broke my right knee and a couple of bones in
my back before before coming to a rest on the mountain.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I had knee.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Surgery that night in Mammoth.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yeah, oh no, no, they've got good orthopedic surgeons there
ends all the time. I was laid up for two
months like not moving and then slowly rehabbing back.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
So you're buying your pass for this year.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It already bought opening days of ever fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Are you good?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
I'll ski, there's no question, will you?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Will you dial it.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Back whatever my knee lets me do, all right?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
But you don't want to put your I mean knees
and backs sort of things that you kind of want to,
you know.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Take care of on some the back held up real nice.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I'm going to get into this, yes, because I'm I ride,
I snowboard, I'll cross country as well. But I had
to move to Tahoe over Mammoth because this is this
is going to get me in trouble.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
The people Mammoth eh a bit much.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
In what way? I don't know, too grungey for you, yep, yep.
So that's why I love Mammoth. But you know, the
mountain's great, the season is long, it's far enough away
from LA that it doesn't get super busy maybe on
the weekends, and it's easy, you know for me, it's
a five hour drive.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Oh wait, hold on, we didn't talk about this. You're
glutting to die. Do you have your pilot's license or
you're getting.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It getting my pilot's license?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Why you love it?
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Flying is very exciting, scary, but the main mission is
to get to Mammoth faster.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
We were gonna buy like a little Sessna.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Looking at a Cerus.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
So you need a turbo to get to be able
to take off and land in the summer Mammoth just
because of the elevation, and.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
He landing an elevation is tricky from what I know
in the trucky airport. You know, I know a few
people that have had some mishaps, and yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Air density is a lot less, so you're the performance
of your plane is reduced.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
One time I had a pilot tell me.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
He's like, he's like, we'll just just fly into Reno then, man,
if you're worried about it, And I go, yeah, but
I don't want to drive an extra hour.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
And he's like, but you don't want to die, right,
But if I die, it's kind of like, all right, well,
I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
No, but if I don't die, then I have to
drive an hour and I'm mad.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
You'd be happy that you're a life.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
You get my point. I do listen, you're becoming a
pilot just so your commute is short.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
That's correct.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
There's an airport in Bishop which is about forty minutes away,
So that's the option if you can't land at Mammoth.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
But what a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Right, Yeah, well listen, Adam, thank you for being on
the show.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
I appreciate it, pleasure. I had a great time, and.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I hope one day you can fly me up to Tahoe.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
We'll go over.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Man, Hey, look at those folks.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, well we'll ride together and talkho. That'll be fine. Done,
all right, thank you, thank you very much for sciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yep, Casha, Hey, I want to thank Adam for being
on the show. Carl, he says you're in tip top shape,
and I believe him. Now, if he said, hey, we
could get Carl in tip top shape, but it's gonna
cost five thousand dollars, I would be like, oh, think
(45:30):
it's time we have a serious talk. I'm kidding, Carl.
I couldn't put a price tag on what I would
spend to keep you healthy.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I mean I could.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
It's about five thousand.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Now that pig, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I don't know what I'm gonna do if he starts
tipping the scales upwards of fifty pounds and it keeps
climbing currently, you know, under eight under eight pounds.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
We'll see what happens. But uh, thanks adding for being
on the show. That was very nice.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
We got some plugs, boys wear Pink dot com. Pick
yourself up some toddler gear for the holidays. Tossshowstore dot com.
Carl guess what our merch for Toss Show the number
one seller Carl t shirt. Okay, and that money, it
goes right into your pocket. Now we're gonna be adding
(46:25):
new stuff to that real soon. I'd like to get
a trucker cap, maybe a beanie Eddie's tour go to
his website. Go to our website for my tour dates.
Got some Vegas new dates coming up, going to head
to the East coast. Oh, I'm gonna be on the
East coast. Gonna do the Midwest as well. In twenty
(46:48):
twenty five. Now it's time for the free plug go ahead.
I like that you're indifferent. Okay, the free plug music.
Wrap it up, all right, wrap it up, free plug music.
(47:12):
You're still going the most expensive thing about the free
plug free plug music. We got to get our money's work.
They're just gonna let her keep jamming. Do you like
music Carl. All right, today's free plug. This Friday, November fifteenth.
If you're anywhere between Madison Milwaukee and you want to
(47:34):
enjoy the best catch on Lake Koshkanong, come to the
Wisconsin Friday Fish Fry at Koshkanong Mounds Country Club.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Man. I love a fish fry.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
What kind of fish is in.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Kosh Kanong Walley? You think they got a freshwater salmon?
Probably trout. They definitely got trout. That sounds good. Well, anyway,
the clubhouse bar opens at eleven A dinner is served
from four to nine pm. Reservations are recommended, but not mandatory. Hey,
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full menu will be available.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
You know some people don't like fish and they're gonna way. Hey,
you know I like your t bone. You think they
have a t bone there on the menu. Yeah, they
got a t bone. I used to want people to
call me t bones. You guys, guys started calling me
t bone bone. Hey, all right, let me get back
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to this out plug. Also, you'll be pleased to know
that the Lake View upgrade project has already taken down
the wooden fence behind the wedding lawn, along with many
dead trees, so the view is even better now Wow,
that's the Wisconsin Friday Fish Fry on Lake Koshkonong.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
See you next week, guys,
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