My Favorite Military Long Distance Runner - Paul Johnson

Daniel paces himself for a long conversation with ultrarunner Paul Johnson about serving in the Navy, eating three bags of donuts for breakfast, and literally running across the country.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
How many miles a day? Are you running about sixty
sixty miles a day? Somewhere less some of them. I
think my biggest day was eighty miles and my lowest
was like thirty five.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Cash Show, Cosh Show Up, Tosh Show Club Show. Hey guys,
welcome to toshs Show with me, mister Edward Gosling. Eddie,
how are you?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm good? How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Liar Eddie wasn't here last week, as everybody knows he was.
He was gone. We missed him. The fans were angry
because anytime Dylan or John or Pete chimes in, they're like, oh,
they don't have the comedic chops. The show really took
a dive.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
That's unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
And you were on a cruise.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
He's on a cruise. I did a Caribbean cruise three days.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
It was pretty nice by yourself. Oh yeah, good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Sometimes you need a little me time to recharge.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
And I like to get on a cruise with two
thousand people. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
No, you were taking care of you were taking care
of your mother, your your father passed away. We're very
sorry about that. And your dad was a you know,
I don't have a ton of military dad experience, but
just always just a sweet man.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, that was always.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was always like delight and to have like a
goofball like you as a son who just always was
talking nonsense. He really just rolled with the punches constantly.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, he was great. We would prank me and Eric
would prank him a lot. My brother. Uh, really fun stuff.
Great guy colonel and the military.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
That's just that's just a lot. So you went back
to Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yep, went to Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well that's a Was it beautiful?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Nope, it's just hot.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
It was hot. You look a little sun burn if
I'm being honest with you. The first thing I said,
I saw Eddie gave him a big hug. I hate
touching people. Hugg Danny, and then I go, man, he
looks sunburned. He's like, yeah, I fucking pressure washed my
mom's house.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah. The whole back. Lannai was just like, I mean,
when it rains there, you get every so I had
to get through there. And then planning.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
She just immediately passed on her honeydo list to you.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It really was like we would do stuff during the
day and she would take out something from the freezer
and thought out for dinner. And then we would sit
there and watch Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune, have dinner.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
And you just became your father. You became her father.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I started wearing his clothes. I didn't do that, but
I was like, I do feel like I'm filling a
void for her right now.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, yeah, and your your mother also a very sweet person.
You know what, if she's listening, let's go come on
out to California. You know, split your time. You come
to California, you head on over to Austin to hang
out with your other son, play with these grandkids. Ah,
we'll take care of you. You spend a day or
two at my place. That's it.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
You know, set up.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
We got you three months a year placed two days
at mine. We'll do it. We'll have some fun. Also,
my stylist, Carrie, her father just passed away. Yeah, it
was just it's just awful. They say it happens in threes. Dylan,
even Dylan doesn't know his father.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I don't believe he doesn't know.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, he's a donor.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
John.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
How old were you when your father passed? I was
thirty years old, okay, and you were cleared of all charges.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Uh yeah, yeah they didn't. They didn't know pretty well
well orchestrated.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
All right, So that didn't count because that was that
was quite a while. So the third well, it's it's awful, Eddie.
I owe you five thousand dollars. Yep, Eddie and I
made a gentleman's bet five thousand dollars on whose father
would go for We did not do that. No, no,
let's go double or nothing. Wives carries it over.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Everybody wis will live forever. Well, now, if you go
on a cruise.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Tips, I got some tips.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, I tell you if if I can do anything
for you, you know I would, And actually I talked
it over with Carly Eddie, and we would like to
adopt you.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Hey, okay, that'd be great. I'll uh let's do that.
I like the idea you adopting me.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I don't know if it's like, are you legally allowed
to adopt someone that's older than you?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I'm five years old, so barely older.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Barely older?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
All right, I bet you could.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Okay, yeah, done?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
You're my dad now, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't think you should call me a dad right away.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I'd like to go to college again yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh god, well I do want you to share a
room with your little brother.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
My brother. Yeah, be my brother.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Now, well, we're glad you back. You only missed one
day of work, and we'll dock your pay. Okay, did
you have to can't on any shows? Are you going
to have to cancel any shows?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
No?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
He'll be buried at Arlington National Cemetery. So that's a
way fancy, Yeah, pretty fancy place.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well they do.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I mean I'm just gonna ask, do they do the.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, full military honors?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
How many how many rounds they fire off?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Sixteen twenty one?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Oh it's a twenty one or maybe seven guns.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Three times one twenty one?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, Because he was a bomber pilot, they've they've asked
for like a flyover to.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
So they've asked for who who knows to ask for
the flyover?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Who knows to ask? I mean the funeral hum that
you do. They're kind of like, because he's a colonel
and he's a pilot, you can ask for a flyover, you.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Know, to ask for this stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I mean, yeah, you did, I did.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh good for you. I mean, your your parents were
they their affairs weren't order. But it's just it's it's
always so like, Oh, you just have to spring into
action right away, right.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
You guys start wrapping things up.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Now, today's guest military kind of you know, Navy. I'm
teasing seamen. By the way, when you came home from
your trip with your family from Florida, did you consider
jogging back instead of flying?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Did not?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
See, today's guest would have told you, Hey, take that
three hundred dollars, just spend it on awful seven to
eleven meets and just jog forty to fifty five miles
a day and you could get home in an easy
fifty two days. Enjoy casta. My guest today is insane.

(06:39):
There's no other way to put it. He ran from
la to New York City in seven weeks to raise
money and awareness for mental health issues in our military.
He will be the third runner we have had on
the show, but the second with legs. Please welcome ultra
runner Paul.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
That was great to me.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Wow, I have so many questions. Let's start here we go.
You ready? Do you believe in ghosts?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yes? Mmm?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Do you have proof?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
No? Oh, okay, you just said believe. Uh huh do
you ever have any an experience. So the ships for
the Navy, huh down like the uh some of the
engine plants. Weird stuff happens down there when you're by yourself,
and it's ghosts, like the lights will turn on and off.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, sure it's a ship. Yeah, but now before I
thank you for your service, what is it that you're
running from?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Ooh, it's deep.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Boredom? Is that what got you into it?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
For real? No, my buddy wanted to run the Marine
Corps Marathon. I was like, sure, I'll run a marathon
with you.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
And you had you never had ran a marathon.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I had run a marathon because I did an Iron
Man back in college, but I hadn't run in probably
close to four or five years.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
How many miles are you running in the Iron Man.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Twenty six point two? You do have a marathon at
the end. It's at the end.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
What's the hardest part of the Iron Man?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Guests staying awake? It was a long It was my
first ever like long race, so it's just like super tiring.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
How long did they take you to do the Iron Man?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I want to say it was like eleven hours.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
To do eleven and then incredible.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Came about a short race. Now, all right, so you
were in the navy. How long are you in the navy.
You're still in the Navy. I'm in the Navy for
another two days and then I'm out.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Two more days.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Congratulations, So seven years total.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Could anything tragic theoretically happen in the next two days
that would make you like they keep you in?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Oh no, it's all signed, PaperWorks done, so.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Not like we need you. So this just happened. Aliens
are off the coast of blank. We need you out there.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You throw aliens in, I will volunteer, go'll go back. Yeah,
well only if it's aliens. Though.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
What made you get into the Navy in the first place?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Needed something to do. My parents, well, my mom wasn't in,
but my dad was Air Force for four years. His
dad was career Army. My mom's got some Army on
her grandparents. So it just seemed like something interesting to do.
Looked in to it, and then started applying.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Was like, sure, when'd you apply?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
How old? So I went through the ROTC program that
started when you go to school Penn State. Oh were
you there during Sandusky? No? Right after I was safe.
That would explain the running. Yeah, took very few showers there.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I mean that that was quite a thing. Were you
were you hesitant to enroll there because it was right
after or were you like, now's the time to.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Go, Now's the time to go. You know, the market's down.
Got to slide in there like you can.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh man, why can't they win a national championship?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know, I've never actually been to a game, so
I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
You never went to a game. You've never been to
a white out.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I bought season tickets and I would resell them. Did
you make money off of it? Yeah? Oh so it
was like just a business move. I guess.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Were you a hustler.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I don't know about hustler, but you know I was
able to buy my romin every day.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I was getting to get into the nifty lions. I
can't even say that word properly.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Don't. Don't think they're a real animal. I agree, all right.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
You join the Navy. Where were you stationed.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
First three years? I was in road of Spain, which
is on the southern coast, right on the straits of Gibraltar,
so you have like a joint base between the Spanish
and the US. There, beautiful, beautiful it's beautiful. I would
go back there, not in the Navy in a heartbeat.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Because you're on the ship a lot all the time.
That's the bad part about the Navy. It's having to
be on the ship all the time. Yep. Oh.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
And they're not like nice yachts either.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I've never been on a cruise. I've never done a
yacht that both. That's not my world. You were at
the station there for how long were you there?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Three years? Okay? So twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one?
All right?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
And where'd you head off after Spain?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
San Diego? So I was there twenty twenty one to
twenty twenty three. Sometime you like San Diego? Love it?
Almost moved back there.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
My good looking people down there in San Diego I enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Sometimes I don't go. I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I don't love it as much as other people do.
But that's me. They're here and one there. You have
any cool sailor tattoos?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Seven or eight? You do? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Where are they?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'm not asking a well, we can show them if
you want. You're gonna get in there though.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Whether I wanted or not. By the way, is it
true that sailors drink a lot? Yes, do you drink
a lot?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Not anymore?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Did you drink while running? No, it's not Can you
drink a lot?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I used to be able to not anymore?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Okay, But sailors and that is that is a it's
a fact. It's not a stereotype. It's based on truth.
Did everyone on the ships drink? Oh yeah, but you
don't drink when you're on the ships at all.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
No, they don't, right, they don't. They don't have the
Spanish juice. Like we had a Spanish navigator who like
hung out with us as like an exchange program. He
was so pissed the first day when he found out
there was no beer on board, Like, he was pissed.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
He didn't understand our customs and rules. And we've always
had that rule.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
They used to like that's where a cup of Joe
came from for coffee. They got rid of alcohol and
they said, the guess guy's name was Joe or something.
He got rid of it. It was secretary of the Navy
or Naval operation something, and he got rid of it
and they replaced it with coffee.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Cup of Joe came from the navy. Did you guys
know that did not go. That's great, we learned something today.
Did you join Top Gun?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
No? No, that's like a pilot thing, and I'm not
a pilot, so no interest. I wanted to do Explosive
Orange Disposal EOD didn't work out when I applied for
all the transfers, so I stayed as a service warfare
officer on the ships. Did you watch the new Top
Gun Maverick movie I have?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Did you enjoy it?

Speaker 1 (12:35):
I did?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
The opening sequence is all I like.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I just like that.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I just like people doing big thumbs up. Tom Cruise,
what's your thoughts on him?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Don't like him? You don't like him? Why don't you
like him? When they filmed Top Gun Too, they basically
contract out the ship to go to sea, so they
sent five thousand sailors to sea just to film the movie.
And then when they were on the ship, none the
sailors were able to use like the gym or like,

(13:03):
they weren't even allowed to like look at him. They
basically like, you can't look at him, you can't use
the gym because it's for him only. So within the navy,
don't like him.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know that Prima was
like that. I think it's just funny that he keeps
doing these things. Watching him run is so silly. So
while you're in the Navy, did you stumble upon this
desire to become an ultra runner or was this kind
of always something that you wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
I completely stumbled upon it when I was living in
San Diego.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
You seem just I know nothing about anything for the
most part, but as a runner. If I were to
guess what an ultra runner looked like, you seem big,
you seem bulky, dam then I wanted you to be
I was. I'm thinking Kenya, Yes, I'm thinking those runners. Yes,
I'm thinking light, easy on the knees. You seem like
like like a big old dude going through Is that

(13:54):
normal or most ultra runners.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
The heavy froze do not look like me. The pros
are stick figures that can fly up a mountain. That's
what That's what I was thinking. I'd say I'm upper
middle of the pack. The advantage I have is that
I've got strong legs, so I'm pretty good at the
climbing portion. But yeah, I carry around extra weight that
most people don't.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
How did you decide all right, Well, I'm gonna, you know,
try to break the record and run across the United
States of America.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
The record was kind of an afterthought. I knew I
wanted to do the run, and when I first started training,
I was like, there's no way I could do like
forty miles a day. That's how many people have done
this run. It's not there's a real official tally, probably
somewhere less than a.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Thousand, and it's three thousand miles.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Ish within the running community, you have to do three
thousand miles. But as long as you go city to
city across the coast, it counts.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Why did in its Los Angeles to New York? Why
don't people nobody does North Dakota down to Texas?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, that would be up and down, not across.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
It doesn't It doesn't well, I mean, I guess it
all depends on your perspective in the time of the year,
which way the planet is.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
No.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Is there any shortcuts like when you're running, like like,
you're not running on a freeway ever, are you?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
It depends No interstates, but definitely freeways.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
How direct of a route are you doing?

Speaker 1 (15:17):
We did it La? Where we go California, Arizona, northern Arizona,
northern New Mexico. We touched the corner of Texas. I
just like dipped my toe in it because I did
not want to run through it.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I did what I did the Texas part. You were
smart to just hit the corner of it, because when
you're driving, if you do the ten the long way through,
it's just horrible. Yeah, this never ends.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
But uh, Kansas, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Kansas is boring. That's a boring run.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
But they were some of the nicest people. Well, sure
they have to be n they got nothing else.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Going on to being an asshole and you live there.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
That was Indiana, Oh worst state? Why was Inny of
the worst state? They will you have a four lane road,
the massive shoulder, they will purposely cut across three lanes
to try to hit you and run you off the road.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh yeah, that's just a couple of bad apples.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I would run with like my hoosiers. Yeah, I would
run with my pole with like a carbon call a
car by tip on it. They get too close, they
get it.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Did you actually have some close calls every day?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
A lot of cars, so many cars.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's such a bad idea.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's a terrible idea.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
By the way, what is the world record running across
the United States of America?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It is forty two days, six hours, and thirty minutes.
It's something like seventy two miles a day, okay.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
And how quickly into your run did you realize I'm
not going to break this record?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Day four?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Day four?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, call quits early, okay.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
But you're like, I'm still doing Did you always say
I'm gonna still do this no matter what.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, because we were gonna We're doing the run, right.
The whole point of the run was I want to
do it a be the fundraising and see the awareness.
The record was just kind of icing on the cake.
If we can do it, great. If not, then.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
You're a good person because you keep saying the word
we But I don't give a shit. How many people
sacrificed to go on this little fucking voyage with you? You're
the only one doing the work.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's right, I had to carry the load.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
So how many people did you have coming along?

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I had a full time crew of about five and
they're in an RV. They're living in an RV.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Did you sleep in the RV as well? Or do
you guys get a hotel.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
No hotels. I had like a four transit van that
I was sleeping in, So.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
There's two vehicles following you the whole time.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Typically the RV would like jump ahead for the day,
they do shopping, laundry, maybe they get a shower once
a week, and the transit van would stay with me
and kind of just follow me along, feeding me and
giving me water. Would you shower every day in the
inn where the van had like a little you know, shower.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Thing in garbage showers?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
I thought it was great.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Look at you just doing it all right? How many
miles a day? Are you running?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
About sixty sixty miles a day somewhere less some of them.
I think my biggest day was eighty miles and my
lowest was like thirty five. I don't even get it.
I don't get it on any left. I can't run
three miles. We can know it right now. We can
go after the we talk here, I'll tak you about it.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I don't want to. It's just so hard.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
How often are you walking uphills? Don't? I don't run
up hills, you'll walk up them.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
What was the biggest elevation changes you were doing? We
did quit saying we.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Is They're in a car, that's right. I made fun
of them because they weren't acclimated. They tried to go
running at seven thousand feet in flag Staff when I
was up there, and they all just died because they
weren't moving with me. The highest point was I think
nine thousand or so feet in Tows in New Mexico.
The most vert I did in the day was about
eight thousand because we did two four thousand foot climbs

(18:51):
going up to Tows in one day.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
How many days it take you to get out of
La just because of the traffic.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I didn't have traffic where'd you was on foot? We
did Santa Monica Peer and then I'm still like learning
all the roads out here, but I think it was foothill,
like ran along foothill, I think, and then we stopped
somewhere around Fontana on the first day. Second day we
were in Palm Springs. That was the eighty mile day.
And then like getting to Palm Springs were literally running
through like the desert. There was like a sandstorm rolling

(19:18):
through so like you couldn't even see where you were running.
You're just running through ten feet of visibility, getting sand
blasted at fifty miles an hour? Were you wearing glasses?
I had sunglasses on. I didn't have a shirt on
at that point because I'm an idiot. You sunburn? No?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Oh, why are you an idiot for not having a
shirt on? Why is that a bad move?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Heat stress? Oh? Yeah, so I didn't get sunburned, But
like that was part of the reasons we had to
call the record attempt was because my body just went
into total shutdown on like day three or something.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
When did you like it? Click? You're like, I can
go forever? Do you just not get tired?

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Now you get tired. But like the best part about
the sport is it's really just like an eating competition, okay,
because you just got to keep eating. If you keep eating,
you make it to the end. It's like you're not
running super fast comparatively to if you were sprinting. You're
just kind of chugging along. You take some walking breaks,
eat a lot of food, and just keep going.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Hold on your weight. Yeah, you started the race.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Weighing what one seventy eight probably.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
One seventy eight, and then halfway through where what did
you what did you get with the lowest amount of weight.
Where were you at.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
One fifty something or like one sixty or low one sixties? Yeah? Great?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
And then by time you finished the race had fifty
two days later you weighed what you had gained.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I gained. I gained all that weight back plus a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
How is that possible?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
More food?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Okay, I want to talk about your diet because it's
just it's just horrible.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
It's great for running.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's not. I mean, there's nobody can say this is
the right thing to do. You would start your day
off with what the powdered donuts powder donuts? How many
would you eat of those?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Those? Like mini powdered donuts sleeve? Uh no, like big
white bags at the grocery store, a big white bag.
I would eat three of those in the morning, three bags,
three bags of donuts, and then like half a family
sized thing of golden oreos like inside of pancakes, so
it'd make pancakes with the oreos in them, and I
would eat that for about three hours, and then I
would eat all the powdered donuts and that was like breakfast.

(21:22):
It was delicious.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I mean, I understand that you're burning calories, but there's
better calories. Better ways to get calories?

Speaker 1 (21:27):
How do it? Like a salad?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
No, not a salad. But I just don't think those
donuts are the right things to eat.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
You just gotta you gotta put sugar in and burn
it off right away. And that's why I was losing weight.
So how did you gain weight? Then we started taking
creatine about halfway through, so some of that water weight
we weren't taking creatine. No, they were taking creatine too.
That was a team effort. They were like shoving pills
down my throat at night, like take your vitamins. And
we also started eating a lot more.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Like what else were you eat?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
How? What was a dinner? Like, well, you skipped lunch.
What's lunch? Lunch was mac and cheese and steak.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
That makes more sense, pasta and steak.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, if there was a burger cheering McDonald's, I'd get
a big mac or a single large fried and vanilla milkshake, pizza,
half of pizza, dunkin donuts, we'd get like a full
dozen of glazed donuts to pop those down.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Were were you eating in a civilized manner or were
you just like just like oh.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, yeah, pinkies were out and everything.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
No, But I mean, like, were you sitting down in
restaurants ever?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
No, you don't. You don't have time.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I didn't think so.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Oh you're like, I'm literally you eating run on the
side of the road at the same time you were
jogging and eating. It's my superpower, iron gut.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, it's not your superpower. How is your your BMS
BMS bowel movements your ship?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Oh yeah, code Browns?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Is it okay? Code Browns?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Plentyful and mixed variety?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Right? So were you having loose stools?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
First one of the day, yes, uh, second one of
the day about two hours later, No, third one around lunch, yes,
and then sometime in the evening it was back to solid.
It was like take turns alternate.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's where I tell you your diet was off because
like better foods would have maybe stopped something.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
You still haven't said which foods, though, I don't know
the answers.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I just you know, I would assume someone that that
that's in this world would be like, this is what
you should be eating, not three bags of powdered donuts
every morning, just so many donuts so good.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Well, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I can eat that stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
It sounds like you're ready to run.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
What were you drinking? Were you only drinking water? Were
you drinking some gross stuff?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Water, milkshakes, melted ice cream? Like the freezer sometimes didn't work. Man, Well,
if I am, it's too bad, I guess I'm gonna
get Oh.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I can't imagine what that would do to me if
I was running. What about finding bathrooms?

Speaker 1 (23:55):
There's a lot of foliage out there on the side
of the road, so.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
You were you were just doing your business wherever you could.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
It would depend nobody.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Nobody had it. I mean the RV obviously had it toilet,
but they weren't next to you.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
At all the time. I mean the van had a
toilet in it, uh huh, but it was only for
Code Browns, that was it. Otherwise piss on the side
of the road. Well, sure, Sometimes you just pop a
squad in a bush because the RVY there, you know,
they leave frog and you really got to ghos. So
you just find a bush.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
When you were using this portable bathroom in uh in
the van?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Did they dispose of it outside of the van immediately
or were they driving around with your shit?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I mean it's like one of those containers where you
can like shit in it a bunch of times and
then you eventually just empty it.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Okay, so they weren't emptying it right.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Away, No, they would probably empty it.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
They were driving your three days, yeah, the country like
my delivery driver. Yes, I guess that's why you say
we they did a little bit of the work. What
about wipes? Were using wet wipes.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Or just wet wipes and a lot of lube? That's
night lou Loop saves lives. There's no such thing as
too much lube.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Just because your butt was so sore.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I mean everything just chafing. You don't like if you
have any chafing, it's better where.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Your nipples burn.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
No, you tape them.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
You tape them. Yeah, and you lost all your nail
fingernit toenails.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I probably lost three on that particular run.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Were you listening to music all the time you did?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
What kind of ear budget are you using? Shocks? They're
like the bone conductive where it's like sits right here
on your head, but it doesn't actually go in the ear.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
How long was that battery?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Lasting? Ten hours? He's wow?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Do you get a sponsor from them?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Now?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
What's going on? What's the name of shocks?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Shocks?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Shocks. It's almost embarrassing that I have to ask at
this point. But you know, if you don't do right
by a serviceman, that alone. Good God. All right, you
got sponsored by shoes, but they didn't really sponsor me.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
No, it was like in kind support. I was about
twenty twenty one twenty two pairs of shoes that we
went through, pretty much all Hoka bondies, Clifton's and clos.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Hokah's are popular, but man, I find them hideous to
look at.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, they got good colors. You just don't like color.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Then I don't like the big the big graphics on
the side's too much for me. Ok, are you a
sponsor other show? Come on, hook him up, do something
for him. So far, were you dating anybody during this?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Do you have a strict no bust clause during the run?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
No busts mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
What do you mean, you know, uh, take care of yourself?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, not during the run the whole time.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Now days when I got back, well, I know.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Your brain's just so fried, like you don't even you
just all you do is you run and you immediately
pass out and go to sleep.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
You're never horned up on a run.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
No, it's so exhausting, like you just you can't even think.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
How many hours a night were you sleeping three to four?
And was it like sound.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Sleep you like wake up with like the meat sweats
every couple of minutes.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Because of all the meat that you were eating.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I didn't was seeing that much me. It's mostly donuts,
steak you god, lunch with the mac and show like
your body is you're freezing cold, but you're just I
would literally wake up like I got out of the show.
Were just soaked in sweat? Every morning? Were you worried
that you weren'ting to be able to finish? Or every day?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Would have you quit?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
No? I mean like the answer is no, I wanted
to every day, but then it's like, oh, well, I'm
already using my vacation days, like I might as well
do this. Also, it's like I would feel bad about
letting down everybody was coming out to run, because we
had over the course of the run, we probably close
to ten thousand people come out along the way to
run with us. So it's like I don't want to
let those people down.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
How often were you completely alone? What percentage of the
race do you think race whatever we're calling this cannon
all run?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I want to eat a thirty percent of it?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
You were alone? Yeah, okay, and the rest are just random.
People would run and people hop on me. Any any
hobbies run next to you?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I couldn't remember because I was just so like focused
on the ground in front of me.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Did they want a chit chat at all?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Some of them did, and it's just like, please leave
me alone. Other times, if I was like in the headspace,
I would have some conversation, but it wasn't very very much.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Did anybody like, hey, let's pick up the pace a
little bit here?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
They probably should have.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
We got a record to hit, buddy, let's go. Not
to be sexist, but who put gas in the RV's
water tank? My mom?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Uh huh?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
And what happened? So she put gas in the water tank? Yeah,
so now you can't use water ever again on that
rental RV.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well, the problem was you couldn't clean it out. We
would have, but after she put she's always so embarrassed.
I tell the story after she had filled up the
entire water tank with gas and she realized it. To
get rid of it, she like opened all the fasts
and showers and just ran it through all the pipes
in the RV rather than just like siphoning it out
and like throwing some dish soap in there.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
In fairness, siphoning is hard, it is. But the fact
that she had gasoline coming out the shower.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, and so like Rob Rob came back into the
RV and he's like, yeah, I don't think this thing's
supposed to smell a gasoline. And she's got like towels
hanging up soaked in gas and everything. So it was
like literally a driving bomb at that point.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
When did she realize that she was putting gas into
the wrong spot?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You filled it.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I mean, that's a pretty good one to hold over
your mother's head for the rest of her life. Like
as far as like, oh cool mom things to do,
that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
How much money did you raise a little over six
hundred k. How much did you pocket negative one hundred
and fifty thousand. It costs a lot. You went in
the hole. Oh yeah, like you're on the hook for
one hundred and fifty thousand. I was, it's paid.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
How'd you pay?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
My goodness, that is that is awful how much did
you want? You wanted to raise? What a million?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
A million was the goal? Yep?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
If you would have raised a million dollars, would have
you pocketed money?

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Then I still would have lost money? Yeah? Nuts? Wait
was it because of the RV? Did you buy this RV? No?
We we destroyed that RV. Didn't get my security to
posit back with it? She rented it. Yeah. The insurance
is always worth it for RV.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh, and they covered all the stuff that you guys
did do.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I paid two fifteen hundred dollars deductibles for probably about
fifty thousand dollars worth of damage.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
What did you guys do? Why were we guys so
mean to their RV?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
The general blew up my mom put gas in the
water tank, and my crew chief crashed it into a
concrete pillar in a parking lot.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's because they were like looking at you, joh the
whole time.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
He was asleep. Oh, and he was trying to park
in a parking lot and he was super sleepy and
he crashed into a pole. He also ran it into
a ditch in Indiana and like completely blew up the
drive train underneath.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
And what are they when when these mishaps happened. Are
you like jogging in place waiting for them to fix
shit or do you just go on ahead?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
You just keep going. I mean that's why we had
two vehicles, and you're smart. They'll figure it. They'll figure
it out, that's their problem.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
And they always got to the next spot.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yep, they did lose me in Prescott, and I had
a caller, where is Prescott, Arizona, Like just south of Flagstaff?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
The van?

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Was it next to you at all times? No, They're
like there was a lot of times they would just
leapfrog me. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
So I guess they can't drive in a that'd be
so horrible to drive that slow at all times.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Usually I run on the left side of the road,
but because of the the bank, it would like mess
up your hip, so you got to switch sides to
balance everything out. And so when I'm running on the
right side of the road, they would drive behind me
at like five six miles an hour.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
I couldn't help. But notice a lot of vandalism on
your journey. Is it legal to randomly spray paint your
milestones on the sidewalk?

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Debatable?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Do you guys clean that up or no?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
No, still there. Somebody sent me a picture on Instagram
the other day. They're like, yeah, your marker's still here.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Ah, that's pretty good. Who the hell was the guy
in your documentary that runs with the motorcycle helmet on.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Dead Scout. He's a LA local, that's his thing. Runs
with a helmet on in all black. He's done the
transcon by himself four times now with a helmet on. Yeah,
he's a psycho in the middle of the desert. He'll
run like that too.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Do you actually get runners high?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah? You do.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I've never experienced it. Have you ever tried real drugs?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Not for another two days? Oh? That's right.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Well, I've never been a drug person. But I've also
never been an exercise till I die person either. I'm
not even sure if you actually asked a respected doctor,
what's worse for your body doing heroin or what you
do heroin might be healthier.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
There's only one way to find out.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
We gotta do heroin, all right, man? Oh gone, I mean, honestly,
it's not healthy right to run that far?

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, I mean honest it's it's bad. You are your
knee like.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
You know, my knees are perfectly fine. Your glutes and
like the whole posterior chain will start to get messed up.
So that's why you have to like change shoes or
change how you're running.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
But I mean you even talking about the hips thing
with the sides of the roads, like that's all.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
That was definitely opinion, But eventually like it went away
after we kind of like rehapped it a bit.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
It's good stuff, man, that's good stuff. Has anyone ever
been more excited to enter the state of New Jersey
than you were on day fifty?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't think anybody's excited to enter the state of
New Jersey?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Were you so happy to be finished?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
When I saw my first sign for New York City
in Jersey, it was like, oh, new York City this way?
I was the happy personalive. Yeah, it's like we are done,
Thank god.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Do you finish in Times Square?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Police escort getting into the city. It's impressive. And how
long did it take?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Fifty one days? Three hours and so many minutes?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Were you late to work?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I almost was did you how fast did you have
to go back to work right away? Because I like,
you can only take so many vacation days at once.
The maximum is sixty at once. I had all these days,
and so I planned fifty because we're like, oh, let's
try to get the record. And then we realized, oh man,
we're not going to make it in time. So I
texted my boss and finally got them to approve an
extra ten days. But that's all they could do. So

(33:39):
it's like, you have to get it done by this
day because I have to go.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Back to work.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Would you when you're in New York City canes raising canes?
Is that it right? Right? Some chicken tend us and fries?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Uh huh? Listen, you're not going to mess up. If
it ain't broke, don't fix it right?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
How do you even begin to plan something like this?
You get your friend to make their route for you,
you get another just tell your friends to do it
for you. Most of the stuff. Once you get the
route planned, it's pretty easy.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
But you were as an altrunny, Where is this like
something that people talk about, like, oh, you ever gonna
run coast to coast?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's becoming more popular. The charity that it was done with,
Team Red, White and Blue, they just did another version
of it. They took twelve veterans and they carried a
single flag from San Diego to DC. I think they
finished yesterday or two days ago, and they never stopped
moving the flag. I think they averaged like a seven
to forty five pace. They would trade off like every
thirty minutes for two weeks or three weeks straight. So

(34:36):
they just raised another like six hundred k plus for that.
But there's so many ways to do it. There's so
many routes to take. People do San Francisco to New York,
LA to New York. So there's just so many ways
to do it. The hardest part is getting their route
figured out.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I want to do Key West to Bellingham, Washington. How
many miles is that? That's got to be over five thousand,
is my guess. My guess is five two and eleven.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Let'sa say it's less. Say it's four thousand, thirty.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Five thirty five hundred. That's it. Man, I was way off.
Are we ever thinking about running around the planet and
you have to swim whatever gap you.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Have to swim, We could but swim across the ocean?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
We're going to need the sponsors. I'm not pocketing. I'm
not paying for that one.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
No, No, you're not coming out of pocket ever.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Again, No, no, sir.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
As long as I'm in charge of this, you're the
new manager. Well, I'm not the manager because I don't
want to even take a cut of anything. I'm more
of the idea guy, and then I get people to
make sure they pay for it. All right, what do
we want to do? You could just do a fun
swim to Cuba, just to show people how it's done.
Ninety miles. Is that an easy swim for you?

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Probably not, but it's worth of shot.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
We'll have We'll have your mom and a boat next
to you.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
The fact that she had she just turned on all
the faucets. It is just so perfect. All right. Everybody's
on the show gets a gift. It's just stuff around
my house that I don't need. This gift though, I
was like, oh man, this is perfect for paul. A
massage table.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Oh perfect, thank you, That's what I needed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I figure if anybody deserves to be treated, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Thank you, does it come with a massage therapist?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I can get you a session, all right. My guy's
is Ukrainian.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
He's I know what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
He did, He's never rubbed me. He's Uh, he just
does my wife as she always our back always needs
to be aligned. He's a bit chiropractor too, so he's
a little more legit. I like massage is just to
fall asleep. I don't want to be I don't want.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
To know what manhands all over you. No, I don't.
I don't.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I don't like manhands on me. Okay, that is true.
Also it is true. I don't like it, but I'm not.
That's not what I want to get into. I don't
like I don't like to feel pain.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
They can be gentle.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
This is this is what they say to you. I
can tell you by the way, Paul, maybe the first
guest that I've ever had that I didn't have to say,
get this off my desk. Tell me about the days
after finishing the run, Like did you sleep for a week?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
How did I slept for a day and then I
was pretty much back to normal? Like the second day,
I was like back to normal?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
How soon after you finish this race did you run again.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Two days later?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
How far did you go a mile.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Warm up?

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Huh? Would you ever try it again? No?

Speaker 2 (37:36):
But you've done other races, like other massive ultra marathons.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
What was the one over in Europe. In the French,
how was utmb ultra trail du mont Blanc some French words.
It's beautiful, it is gorgeous. I got I've done that
twice now it's one hundred miles trails around the you know, France, Italy, Switzerland,
back into France. It's gorgeous. How do you have to
be invited? You either have to qualify to get direct

(38:02):
entry where you.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Enter a lottery, and how did you get into it?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
I qualified? My first one hundred mile race was in Auburn, California,
and so I placed I think twenty first or twenty
second overall, and I guess within my age group. I
got automatic qualification for the French race for two years. Yeah,
that's pretty neat. Their foods aren't great. They just have
a bunch of pasta which was good, but no donuts. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I know most people when you think of Italy and France,
you don't think of good food. Paul got to change
your diet. Would you ever do a run in like
Antarctica already?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Did you did?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Once you do Antarctica November this past year.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
How was it cold? Was it enjoyable?

Speaker 3 (38:45):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
It was exactly what it sounds like. It's Antarctica. I've
wanted to go to Antarctica. I would go back, but
not to run because we did one hundred miles down
there and we set the new record for that.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Did anybody else run with you? Did you run by yourself?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well, this one was a wee because Rob was with me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, so just two of you ran.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
It was part of like an organized race, but we're
the only ones that were actually doing one hundred miles.
Everyone else was doing like a marathon or one hundred
k What kind of shoes were you wearing? And to
run an antarcticle, they're like Solomon's. They have like a
zipper on the front. They go up like mid calf
and they have like little nano spikes on the bottom
for grip. A lot of trench foot because they're just
not breathable.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
What about desert runs? Do you are you into those
or not?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
I hate deserts. Hate them.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
It's tough, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Never doing a desert race probably ever? Well, I have,
but that's why I'm not doing them again.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I watched a thing on a bear. Grills is his
team that films him when he does these like survival shows,
and they all like are furious when it's desert hot
climb because they're like, they'd much rather be in frozen
tundras because when they're in desert, it's just a matter

(39:50):
of time. One by one they will all pass out. Yep,
it's just like they just drop. Yeah, you can't. You
can't the heat winds every time. Have you ever considered
running the Barkley Marathons.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
No, I'll go watch like tailgate it, but I'm not
running it.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Did you hear about this year no one finished?

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Nobody? Well, it's cause too many people, because there were
three people finished last year. No, it's because one woman
finished last year and they were like fuck this, Las
said no way.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yep, that's what happened. I made it impossible.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Barkleys is just a scheme for him to get whatever
T shirts or cigarettes he needs for the year. That's
the entry fee.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I bet you could. You don't think you could do it.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
I could do it. I don't know I'd finish it.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I mean, the whole being able to it seems very frustrating.
I don't like that element of the race of like, oh,
I didn't you know use my compass right and now
I'm not where I'm supposed to be. This is very disheartening.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Bushwhack in the whole way.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Do you want this to be your job or no?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I like doing it for fun, like I don't want
to be my job, so like I have like I
don't know when I'm gonna do it, but sometimes this
summer I'm gonna go on cruise ship and run one
hundred miles on the cruise ship just because I can.
And then I'll like chill out on the cruise ship
the rest of the time.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Asking me annoying. If you're on that cruise seeing this
guy just all day.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Long doing last, are you gonna hate me?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I can think of better places to run. Where are
you planning on living after you retire from the Navy?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Inland Empire? So about two hours east? Uh huh yeah,
ranch a Cuckamonga area.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay, you're gonna be a southern California person, Yes, I am.
Is that good or bad? You're looking forward to it?
I mean, are you looking forward to civilian life?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yes? Yes, I can just go wherever I want without
having to tell anybody or get approved to go, Like,
just drive out here, hang out all day. I'm gonna
go for a run after this. Do you like to
run on the beach? Beach trail? Road doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Matter, okay, I mean there's good trails here.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
That's what I was looking up.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I know some trails. I don't run on them. I
just walk and then yell at my kids. I don't
don't dodge. All right, Paul, Well, thank you for being
on the show. I look forward uh to you enjoying
civilian life here in southern California. And if I see
you on the freeway, I'm not gonna get too close
to you. I'm gonna go over. I'm gonna make sure

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everyone around me knows. Let's let's move over. He's got
a poker. You always run with the poker.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Still, no, I haven't experienced these. I've just done the
trail so far here, so no roads yet. That's good.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Stay on the trails, all right, Paul, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, thank you, very thank you, Cash.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Well, thanks Paul. Now, I'm told there is some rumblings
in the community that are questioning the validity of his run,
something about him not releasing all of his GEO tracker.
I don't understand it, but I want you to know
if he didn't run every step of the United States

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of America, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
It's like, you run one state, We're good. That seems fine.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, you run as you pick a state made. Fuck,
you're gonna run across Maine. There's so many there's so
many bears and random things. That's that's impressive. Now you
run around anything a track, I'm like, whoa, you did
a whole track that's a quarter of a mile. You

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run around Dutton's property, that's impressive.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
You speaking about John Dutton, John.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
John fucking Dutton. Now there's there's no distance that I
won't be impressed.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
With.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
My wife. We're going on a little trip and she's
gonna be in a bathing suit and she goes, oh,
I gotta I gotta get in shape. And I go
we're leaving in two days. And she's like, that's all
it'll take. I'm like and I and I said, and
I know this is right. I said, Oh that ship
is sailed where you can get in your body that

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you want into two days? That doesn't make any sense.
And then she got mad at me, and then she
just like took off and started running. She's like not
eating and she's just running constantly.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Do you feel like you're motivating her?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I don't care if she's not in the house. She's
just toning up in two days. And then then what
are you gonna do? She goes, Then he's gonna eat
like a monster while we're gone.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
So yeah, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Good for you.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
We're turning up in four days.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
You got a four day tony. Yeah, you're talking about
it's like seven minute abs. Eddie's got seven minute abs.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
He can do it.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Eddie's got world class calves. All right, Well, what's our plugs?
We got our tours? Eddie and I going on tour.
We're seeing this great country and and a lot of
shows in America too. Check out tossshowstore dot com. Get
some cool merch that I will sign if I see

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you in public and you want me to sign it,
But you gotta take it off right, okay, And then
you gotta have a nice piece of sanded plywood.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
That you put it on, and probably a sharpie.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
You definitely have to have a sharpie, not blue. I
won't use blue because blue is what the counterfeiters like
to steal your name or something. I don't know. Somebody
told me something once about that night. Thought I listened, How.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
You doing, Carl?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Should we tell people the horrible thing that happened the
other day at the house?

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
No, you guys want to hear this? Yeah, okay. The
other day, Carl and I are just doing what we do,
going around the property seeing if anything is out of order.
Lo and behold, here comes Potato, our beautiful fifty pound pig.
And in his mouth. What was in his mouth Carl

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was a freshly killed rabbit. Wow, and like it was.
I was like, oh, he's been eating it. I don't
know how he I know he didn't kill it. It
was he they're killed by some poison or something else
or old ages, old age.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Do rabbits die of old age. I don't think they do.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
No.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I think they automatically get eaten by coyote or something.
But anyway, so he's carrying this this disgusting you know,
it's it's a new kill, and he's running toward the
house and I'm like oh, and I'm yelling at Amanda.
I'm like, Amanda, get the fucking rabbit out of his mouth.
And she's grossed out. But she's like a farm girl,

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you know. So she's trying to chase him and I'm like,
get it out of his mouth, and it's just off.
I'm filming the whole thing. I got my camera because
just laughing, and I'm like, oh, eventually, I throw a
rock at him. That's that's what I had to do.
I threw a rock and he dropped the fucking rabbit.

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I didn't hit him. I didn't hit him, but just
I threw a rock near him. He dropped the rabbit,
and then she washed his mouth and stuff and so gross.
It's just I'm living in fucking filth. It's one thing
if you leave these animals outside, but they sleep in
my house every night, just eating dead rabbits, running around,

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their carc is hanging from their back. It's disgusted. Anyway,
Now it's time for our free plug. Go ahead and
hit the free plug music. Oh that music would have
appeared nicely with my pig run around with a rabbit
in his mouth. Sounds like that kind of music. Benny
Hill's shit.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
All right.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
This week's free plug is for Daniel's Western Meatpackers, Inc.
Okay also knows Daniel's Meat. I saw this truck the
other day, and I took a photo of it because
it's just a big, big truck in front of me.
Just said. Daniel's Meat, the family owned business. Since it
began as a small butcher shop and uh Pico Rivera,

(47:53):
Daniels has grown into one of the largest purveyors of
quality meat in southern California. Their facility employees experienced butchers,
and nothing goes out the door without being tested by
an in house safety and quality control management team. What
do you talk? You test the meat?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
All right?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Despite the name Daniel's Meat, they don't just sell meat.
They've They've got everything from Wago beef to poultry, seafood,
lamb and a world class assortment of cheeses. Okay, Daniel's
Meat has cheese. These people are gonna make a hell
of a sandwich. They've been a wholesaler for decades, but

(48:32):
are now also open to the public for pickups on Wednesday.
Just remember to order twenty four hours in advance. The
company that's small enough to know you, large enough to
serve you, show up and they will slide Daniels Meats
to you through a nondescript hole in the wall. Okay,

(48:52):
that's a Joe Eddie wrote that that's a joke. They're
not shoving their meats through a hole in the wall.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
This is how I heal.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
For more information, check out their website at Danielsmeet dot com.
As Daniels meet dot com, see you next week.