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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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On this episode, we have a first timer. Anna Perez
is with us. Welcome Anna. She is the host of
Wrong Think on LFA TV and we have a lot

(00:35):
to talk about. Anna, thank you so much for having me.
Let's start with this is the country doomed? I'll just
give I'll give you one. We'll start at the thirty
thousand foot level. How do we fix this mess? Eighteen
percent of people now, according to Gallup this week, think
that America is in a good place. Everybody else is like,
this is not going well.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah. Well, I talked about on today's episode of my show,
Wrong Think, how a lot of Americans are waking up
to the reality, which is that our government operates against us.
They are not here working in our favorite And what
could be more telling of that than what happened to
Tara Reed just recently where she decided that she was
safer in Russia than she was here in the United States. Now,

(01:16):
why was she safer there, Well, because she's a whistleblower
against the Biden regime, of course, and what we're seeing now,
and I think a lot of Americans are waking up
to it. Obviously, the government has been you know, weaponized
against the American people for a very long time. We
saw it with Julian Nassangje, we saw it with Snowden,
We saw it with tons of people in the past.
But now it's becoming very very obvious under Joe Biden

(01:39):
that should you dare say anything that goes against him,
you will face the consequences. You will face the wrath
of the deep state. We saw it with January sixth
as well, all the people who are wrongfully imprisoned as
a result of protesting that day. It's just such a
mess and it could not be more obvious. So I
think even a lot of Americans, even on the left,
because there is a group of I think anti government,

(02:02):
anti establishment, I should say, more than anything, leftists that
are very dissatisfied with the government. Similarly, you see a
lot of people on the right who are obviously against
the government. They're not totally happy with what they've been doing.
They haven't been for a while. So you see a
lot of anti establishment groups rising on both the left
and the right. So that doesn't surprise me that only
eighteen percent of Americans are actually happy with the government.

(02:23):
I think both sides can see right now how terrible
it is, because it's scary even if you don't even
if you liked Joe Biden, even if you liked whoever
was president. The reality is, once they reach a certain
level of control or power where they can just up
and decide that you're a domestic terrorist. If they have

(02:43):
the power to do that, then who's to say that
the next president won't do that, or who's to say
that the next regime won't do that. It's very scary,
and so I don't know as far as whether I
think we're doomed. I think that there's a lot we
could be doing. I think a lot of people say, oh, okay,
well we need a civil war right now. Well, there's
a lot of steps we could be taking to fight
some of the power hungry elites that we haven't taken yet.

(03:06):
So we haven't quite reached the level where I think
a civil war is necessary. And by the way, when
I say civil war, I don't mean like everybody engaging
in like, you know, a nineteenth century style like civil
war that we already have. I mean, you know, it
would be a little bit different. Obviously, it would look different.
I think would be more people moving.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
People talk about the people talk about national divorce, for example,
which I think is more along the lines, which would
be a process of political separation because of the bifurcation
of the country into increasingly two visions that seem to
be not just different in their means, but different in

(03:43):
their ends, a fundamentally incompatible view of the relationship between
a citizen and state.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, that's true. And I think a lot of people
when they say, oh, we might need a civil war,
idiots you know, across the country like are like, oh
my goodness, we're calling for war. You're calling for violence. No, idiot, Like, obviously,
when we say there could be a civil war, we
mean that there would be obviously people going separate ways,
deciding like, hey, are we going to break up as
a nation? Uh, it's it's a different to your point,

(04:13):
it would be much It would look much different than
the way it sounds. But I don't think it's necessarily
out of the question. Don't get me wrong. I just
don't think we've exhausted every single uh you know thing,
we every single tactic we could use to get this
country back to where it needs to be for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
So on the issue of well, we can get into
a little bit of Trump Descantis stuff, but I want
to start with the birthright citizenship thing that Trump has
brought up, essentially saying that if he wins the presidency again,
he will end with an executive order birthright citizenship on

(04:53):
day one. How do how do you view this? You're
a Latina American, right as well as being a conservative.
Do you think this is one the right political move
for Trump at this stage? And two? Is this something
that could withstand the obvious lawsuits that will come in

(05:15):
the court? Meaning is Trump on the right side of
a constitution? So there's the political component and the constitutional component.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Right. Well, I think he's on the right side politically,
and I think he's doing exactly what we were hoping
he would have done. Actually when in his first term,
I will say this, as far as his political journey goes,
I think he had the right message in twenty fifteen
twenty sixteen when he started talking about the border problem
and the migrants that were just walking right through a border,
and I think a lot of Americans were excited to

(05:43):
see that somebody actually spoke about this issue with fearlessness,
and you know, he was unafraid of being called all
of the racist labels that they placed on him. But
I think in twenty twenty, that election year, I think
to the fault of the people that he was surrounded by,
really the advice they were giving him, they sort of
talked him out of continuing this whole, you know, this

(06:05):
whole campaign strategy of talking about how we have this
border crisis, which we do, and he started to almost
cowtow a little bit to the left. It seemed he
was scared a little bit of these racist labels. Not personally,
but the people around him advising him didn't want him
to be as stringent on the border issue as he
had in the past. And I think that, in fact,
it's not really my opinion, it's a fact. It definitely

(06:27):
hurt him with the white male vote in particular. And
I think this is great to see that he's kind
of refocusing himself on an issue that obviously a lot
of Americans care about, and he seems to be kind
of bringing back the same energy from twenty fifteen twenty
sixteen about that. I absolutely think we should end birthright citizenship,
and I'm not they only want plenty of Americans, whether

(06:48):
they're a Latino, white, you know, black, whatever. We're sick
and tired of seeing this country being overrun by a
you know, illegal aliens. But then of course their offspring,
which we all know there are plenty of pregnant women
that wind up walking through your giving birth. They reap
the benefits of the state. Okay, they mooch off of
our government, and they really give nothing else in return.
I don't think this goes far enough. I think we

(07:10):
need a border moratorium. But to your point, politics is
what do they say, the art of the possible, and
I don't necessarily know if this is something that's going
to actually work out. I think the idea is there.
I think it's a great idea, and like I said,
I don't think it goes far enough. I hope to
see more, you know, more happen, like a moratorium in
addition to the ending birth rate idea. However, yeah, he's

(07:32):
gonna face a lot of opposition, not just from the left,
but a lot of you know, milk toast Republicans I'm
sure we'll get right in this way. A lot of
lawsuits that he'll be dealing with, so we'll see if
it's possible. I don't know if it really will be,
but politically it certainly is the right idea.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
So don't answer this yet, Anna, We're gonna do a
tease what they call it teas in the business. Right,
do you already have a candidate on the Republican side
that you're supporting? Are you waiting to see? When I say,
don't answers, sorry clarify, don't tell me which one yet,
but have you already chosen your guy or gala could
be in primary or are you waiting to.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
See I've definitely decided.

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the GOP for twenty twenty four and why yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Well, as it stands for me, it's definitely Donald Trump.
And the reason why that is is because even though
there are some ideas that I like, even not just
from the GOP primary. Look I look at somebody like
you know, Robert F. Kennedy for example, and his whole
stance on the vaccine. I'm very anti vax so I
appreciate that. However, when you look at candidates holistically, that's
what's really going to matter. Just because they have one

(10:03):
great idea doesn't mean that they're going to be grand
and everything else. We've seen his second Amendment takes not
happy about that. He's not very pro two way. Really,
the only thing I like about him is the vaccine,
his stance on that, And as far as the GOP
candidates go, really the deciding factor for me is how
is their foreign policy? And really the only person who

(10:23):
has outwardly said that they will stop, you know, shilling
for Ukraine is Donald Trump. If you listen to Mike Pence,
if you listen to Nicki Haley, if you listen to
Ronda Santis, they seem to be very very focused on
our foreign allies as they like to call them Nicki.
Haley even said that putting Ukraine first is actually putting
America first. Well, no, it's not. Mike Pence was also

(10:45):
in support of continuing to get billions of dollars to Ukraine.
And then you look at Ronda Santis, who you know,
just went to Israel using our tax dollars to sign
an anti free speech bill into law in Florida. How
is that in any way America first? So I'm very
concerned about this country heading towards a World War three.
I think Donald Trump is the only one who can
truly stop that, and we can, you know, we can

(11:08):
infight over all of these issues. I know that there's
a lot of fighting going on between Ronda Santa supporters
and Trump supporters, but the reality is here is do
you guys want to be alive Okay, in the next
during the next presidential term, because if Joe Biden's president again,
I don't know if that's going to be the case.
All Right, I think will definitely be involved in a
World War three that could end very, very badly for

(11:29):
the United States of America. Okay, I'm just being honest here.
If you look at our military, I believe I want
to say it's like sixteen to twenty percent women, and
the Russian military is look four percent women. Okay, Now,
that's just a small example of some of the issues
we're going to face. If we decide to engage in
a war which Joe Biden might actually get us in,
we have to understand that is a very real threat.

(11:50):
And if you have Nikki Haley or Mike Pence or
Ronda Santis, it might end up the same way for us.
We might end up once again being the butt of
the joke as it pertains to our foreign allies as
they like to call them, when in reality, all that
it's going to do by helping these people is hurting
is you know, it's just gonna wind up hurting this
country more so. And again, it's not even just Ukraine.

(12:12):
It's the fact that we give so much money to Israel.
We're giving money to so many countries. A lot of
people like to focus on Ukraine as though that's the
only issue. No, there's a lot of countries that we
endlessly give aid to foreign aid countries that would love
nothing more than to see the United States collapse or
will certainly you know, help us in or make us
be in a worse off state if we continue to
support them, because the world is a very complicated series

(12:34):
of alliances here, and anybody who just outwardly says Russia's
bad Putin's bad obviously doesn't understand that. So I'm really
sick of the rhetoric from you know, milk toast GOP
candidates that are just you know, following in line with
the left. They obviously don't understand how complex the situation is,
and they also don't understand how dire the situation is,
and anybody who supports them clearly doesn't either.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
It's funny, I mean, technically I'm hosting. I was going
to raise my hand like can I ask you a questions?
That happens? I was like, wait, wait, I have a question.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
When you start, as you know, when you host a podcast,
like you start to go off and you like forget
that you're on another show.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
No, no, no, I totally I'd look at you three
as there. I thought it was funny tho, because I
was like, excuse me, wait, I want to you know
a lot of people are just starting, Oh, I'm going
to talk with you, no question? What should I mean?
I assume this would be. It's another version of asking
the question, what should Donald Trump, because he's your preferred candidate,
what should his Ukraine policy be? But what is the

(13:28):
Ukraine policy that you would want to see Donald Trump
articulate as part of his twenty twenty four run given.
I mean, when you're talking about World War three, you're
obviously very concerned about it.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I want to withdraw any support we have immediately. I
want to see no talk, absolutely at all of any
American support. Now there are boots on the ground right now,
nobody talks about that. They act like we haven't engaged
formally in a war. And yeah, we might not have
declared formally that we're in a war. But I would
like to see all of our support, with all money.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
See see this is what this is interesting because usually
when I have people on their critical of the GOP
policy on this, and I think, for example, Lindsay Graham,
I really do believe he's a warmonger. I think he
gets pleasure out of, you know, going on cable news
and trying to sound tough about wars that he'll never fight,
having never fought in a war himself anyway, even when
he could have when he was younger, but put that

(14:22):
aside for a moment. I feel like we have people
that say, oh, I don't like the policy with regard
to Ukraine. But I say, I've asked people. I said, okay,
so we cut all fun and they go, well, yeah,
I don't know. If I want to cut all funding,
that's okay. Well then what do you want? Right? So
you are to be clear. I don't know if the
last person I've heard take this position. You think, and

(14:44):
you would hope that Donald Trump would follow through on
this same idea. All funding gone, Ukraine is on its own.
That's where you want to be.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I don't necessarily believe he'll do it, but I think
he'll come close close enough. And I think the real
issue here is that, you know, Zalisky needs to work
out his issues with Putin. We should never have gotten
in the way. This is becoming very complex. Obviously, we
need to get out of the way. This is not
even something that like if you look at past of
Donald Trump speaking to Zelensky, his initial response to z

(15:13):
Linsky is like, look, we gave you a little bit
of what you wanted, so as you can see, you know,
Trump is okay with helping them to some degree. I
forget what they gave to him exactly, but I know
that they were helping Ukraine a little bit, and he
was open about that. But he told it was very
clear with Selinsky, I'm not giving you anything else. You
need to work out your issues with Putin. It was
like it was like a parent dealing with a child.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
One thing that I thought I thought was interesting, you
know when they used to hit Donald Trump all the
time on you know he loves Russia so much is
you know, we don't have to get into that. Everyone
knows that was Putin's puppet. I debated on TV years
ago Obama's National Security Director for Ukraine because I put
because this is when Trump was president, and I pushed

(15:57):
him on you meaning the Obama administration and him specifically
as an NSC advisor to Obama on Ukraine. Refused to
send the Javelin anti tank missiles, refuse to send the
Dragon Off sniper rifles, refused to send any lethal aid
whatsoever because Obama was afraid of angering Russia. Trump actually

(16:17):
did those things which I think always gets lost. He
did the thing that Obama was scared would piss off
Russia too much. And between that and also blowing up
two hundred Russian paramilitaries maybe it was one hundred and
fifty in the desert in Syria. Not exactly what you
would expect from Putin's puppet. But on the Ukraine issue,
I think that look, I'll tell you what I think

(16:38):
is going to happen very early on, and I had
said when the war started, the Russians are far more
formidable and relentless, and we need to take casualties than
anyone realizes right now. And this is going to keep
going on and on and on because Ukraine is much
more important to Russia than its territorial integrity is to
the West. That remember, we were going to crush them

(16:59):
with the sanctions, and then it's going to cost us
a trillion dollars when all said and done. And I
said that at that that's crazy. Well it's now like
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(17:21):
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(19:11):
Is this the way? Should we see more of this?
Where is it all going?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah? I think we need to see more of this.
But you know what, I'm really sick of seeing because
a lot of conservatives can see this and they say, Okay,
well I'm not going to shop at these companies anymore,
or I'm not gonna do this, I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not going to buy this product. Okay, that's great.
But then what we see a lot of, and this
is really pissing me off, is people in the public,
in the public sphere still acquiescing to these companies. Like,

(19:37):
for example, Anthony I think his name is Anthony Bass.
He was the player for the Blue the Toronto Blue Jays.
He just came out and said that he's sorry for,
you know, say, for his anti LGBTQ rhetoric regarding these companies.
And it's like, why is it that people are like
we all know, Anthony, that you're not supportive of this,
Like that's obvious or else you wouldn't have said anything

(19:59):
to begin with. So you look like an idiot, You
look like a loser, a beta mail by standing there
and being like, actually, I'm sorry, I didn't think about
how terrible this would be for the LGBTQ community. Just
down on what you're saying, or don't say anything at all.
Like I'm so sick and tired of seeing people being scared,
especially men. It's it's disgusting seeing it from men. It's like,

(20:19):
why do I have bigger balls than this mail? You know,
when it comes to standing up to these things. I
don't understand that. It's sad and until we finally see
people in the public sphere, like you know, actually putting
principles before money, because the reason why he did that
obviously was because he was I'm sure that there was
talk of him losing his job had he not apologized, right,

(20:40):
it was an official statement, to my understanding. So it's
just it's so sad to see people put money before
principles because that's why he did it. And we're not
going to see this being put to an end until
people who are actually out there in the spotlight kind
of going along with this too. But they're satanic, they
don't care about anything. They just want money. I mean,
that's really how Hollywood is, That's how the entertainment industry is.

(21:02):
It's not surprising, it's just disappointing, and it tells us
that we're a very long way from actually solving this problem.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Now, how you may have seen this, actually I think
it just broke. You might not have seen it. It
just broke today. You know, ESPN is at its headquarter
is going to be flying not the Pride flag per se,
but the Pride plus trans flag, where I guess it's
now just the trans flag. This is and I have
to wonder if we have seen with the NHL, for example,

(21:32):
players get in trouble because they didn't want to wear
like a rainbow on the helmet or something, some symbol
of support for Pride Month, which would be the rainbow flag.
How long is it before players are required to support
trans month or a rather trans flag during Pride Month.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I look, I'm sure there's already a social pressure to
do that. It's so sad too, because it's interesting how
this happens. This is only really successful in the United
States of America and in the West. I'm sure it
happens in Canada all the time. But you look at
a country, I believe it was. They played the World
Cup in Qatar and they were making I think they

(22:16):
banned gay marriage there in general, and people were to
show that our protest, the American soccer team wore pride flags.
We look like idiots to the rest of the world.
And it's sad because this country is seventy percent Christian.
Why is it that we're not allowed to stand true
to on our religious values and all these other countries,

(22:36):
the Qatar being Muslim of course, it's totally acceptable for
them to be strong when it comes to their religious values.
It's like there's this there's this expectation for Christians to
kind of bend to the will of the left, but
nobody really expects that of Muslims, and that kind of
pisses me off. I mean, obviously that's another country, but
I'm just saying, like, if this country were Muslim, I

(22:59):
bet they wouldn't give them the same issues that Christians
in this country get. So I think, really what it is,
it's weak Christianity. And you're right, I think there's only
a matter of time before a lot of these teams
are are basically forced to embrace transgenderism, which is a
whole other level of mental illness than even just the
gay Pride flag. But even the gay Pride flag was enough.
I mean, this is obviously a slippery slope. And as

(23:21):
soon as you start allowing them to control what you do,
these corporations, as soon as they allow themselves because that's
what these you know, these like these sports leagues are right,
and it's all about money at the end of the day,
and I get that, but you know there's power behind that.
If you stand up and say you're not going to
go along with this. And like there was that one
hockey player. He was a Russian guy. I think he

(23:42):
was Christian. He stood up against it when the NHL
was trying to push the whole Night of Pride thing,
he was like, no, I'm just not doing this. And
he actually got a lot of support for that. So
I think people would be shocked to see what would
happen if they all just decided I'm not doing this.
There'd be a lot There's a lot of people who
are silently sitting here suffering because they don't want to
speak out about it. And it's weak. It's weak Christianity.

(24:04):
And I just think that we need to demand respect
as Christians because this country is Christian. Nobody wants to it.
You look at our founding documents, you can find plenty
of evidence of that, and you look at the fact
that again seventy percent of this country does identify as Christian.

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You know you were talking you mentioned before, did you?
I think you use the term demonic or satanic? And
I find myself I'm a Catholic, but I don't do
a lot of religious talk on the air because I
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(26:07):
my knowledge of it to be useful to a lot
of people. And it's just not something that is part
of my bailiwick. That's said, I do find myself using
terms like demonic and satanic and citing the biblical Moloch
and things like this give in some of the things
we're up against. The Dodgers aren't just inviting, but are

(26:28):
celebrating these sisters of perpetual indulgence and giving them an award.
These are transvestites who are desecrating Christian symbols on public display,
as if that somehow moves the convert. It's fun and
funny and moves the conversation forward about acceptance. I view

(26:49):
it as the opposite of acceptance, and I wonder where
you think the motivation for groups like that comes from.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Well, that's the thing to your point. You know, I
never really considered myself, you know, an expert on I
guess faith or religion or anything of that sort. I
am Christian, but yeah, I'm the same way. I never
really felt comfortable saying using those terms demonic, satanic. In fact,
I didn't really until recently, because it's becoming increasingly more
difficult to look at this thing as a reasonable thing,

(27:20):
a reasonable movement that any human being would support. Tucker
Carlson recently gave a speech at Heritage where he essentially
said the same thing. This was right before he was
fired from Fox, and he essentially stated, like this is
a battle of good versus evil. He doesn't talk about
his faith really ever. In fact, he was making fun
of himself, saying that he's not really qualified to talk
about that sort of thing. But he said, when you

(27:40):
look at these conversations, this isn't about politics anymore. We're
not debating actual policy. This is about a spiritual issue
that we're dealing with. The fact that there are groups
like to your point, the Dodgers and embracing this the
mocking of Christianity. There is something deeper going on here,
and I'm not really I don't really wanted to say
exactly what that is, but I certainly, at this point

(28:02):
in my career, seeing what I've seen, I do believe
in spiritual warfare, and I'm starting to believe that there
is something much more sinister going on and people are,
you know, maybe being controlled by forces that we cannot see.
And I know that sounds crazy. I know that sounds crazy,
particularly to people who aren't Christian. Uh they probably are like, well,
you know, it's all about money, it's all about money. Well, yeah,

(28:22):
but what is Satan ruled by. It's ruled by you know,
Satanism is ruled by greed. It's ruled by money. Uh
So even if you even if you're not Christian, you
can see that on the very basic level that these
people are very controlled by money. And so they're probably
doing this in helps on the surface level, at least
at least in hopes that they'll be able to, you know,
continue to get money from you know, far left donors

(28:45):
or people that are just you know, it's it's a
very complicated series of series of alliances between I would
say politics and big corporations. But yeah, it's it's very
interesting to me what's going on, and there really is
no logical explanation. I will say this, I think they
are overplaying their hand in a lot of these things, like,
for example, the whole bud light thing. Really that was

(29:07):
a smart business decision to have. You thought you were
gonna make more money by putting Dylan mulvaney on the
face of your of your company bud light for beer drinkers,
you know, mostly straight men who just want to enjoy
a cheap beer, okay, or even look at sports for example,
the way that the LGBTQ movement has attacked sports is
also insane to me. This is not exactly the right

(29:29):
clientele to you know, eat that sort of thing up
like this is literally just your average guy likes to
watch sports, Like that's who you're going after. Like that
doesn't make any sense to me at all. And it's like,
you know, I understand that their goal is to make money,
but again, I think they're just overplaying their hand at
this point and hopefully that will backfire.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
If there was one thing I like to end the
podcast this way usually Anna, despite all the face the challenges,
the things we face. What makes you hopeful.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I have to say, I think gen Z is waking
up to a lot of these things. I'm more millennial.
I was born in ninety seven, but I'm still very
much a part of a generation millennials that bought into
a lot of this leftist mindset of oh, we have
to buy into all of this BS, we have to
acquiesce to a lot of it. I think millennials and
baby boomers are mostly responsible for this. I think kind

(30:25):
of gen X kind of got lost in the weeds there,
but Millennials have certainly been, you know, the perpetrators of
a lot of the stuff that we're seeing right now.
And I think gen Z is, you know, waking up.
I think they're going to be the ones to clean
this up. And I've seen a lot of I've had
a lot of young young women and men on my
show before, not just on this current podcast, but when

(30:45):
I hosted a show at riv Real America's Voice. I
used to have a lot of young kids on the
show because it gave me hope, and it gave the
audience hope. And I heard a lot. I got a
lot of emails from people saying, you know, I'm really
glad that you're giving a voice to these you know,
sixteen seventeen year old kids, these patriots that actually have
a good vision for this country. And I think they're
and I actually I think there's statistics to back this
up where gen Z conservatives are more conservative than millennial conservatives,

(31:09):
and I think histories of pendulum, so that may not
stay the case as generations go on, but I know
that we need a generation that is truly conservative, truly
stays true to their values in order to clean them
up the mess that I think millennial is largely created.
And Baby boomers of course too. So yeah, I hope
that I think that they give me a lot of
hope when I see them stand up and get active.

(31:30):
I mean, they're getting involved a lot younger than I did,
so I mean, I think that's really refreshing to hear
them talk about.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
That, and it parise everybody host of wrong think you
should all check out. Yeah, Anna, thanks so much for
making the time great to be here with you.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Thank you so much for having me on

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