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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to The
Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, we're going to talk
about women, women in sports, and all the things going
on right now with the current Biden administration position on
(00:33):
some of this stuff, the media is positioning on it,
and so much more. We're joined by our friend Charlie Arnold.
She is a Fox News contributor and a host at
OutKick and formerly of ESPN, which is something we shall
certainly talk about. Charlie, first time on the program. Great
to have you, Thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And I also have to give you a little bit
of credit because I think you were the only person
in the past six weeks since I started at Fox,
except for Clay Travis, who has said my name correctly.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It is.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's hilarious how many different variations I've gotten coming onto
each and every program. I get Harley, I get R No,
are not. It's just it's all over the place. So
thank you for saying it correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I do what I can.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I'm not. I'm not gonna do the whole French thing
with your name because I don't know. You know, Arno.
Isn't that like a automaker too? Is that the guy
who owns but I think he owns all the fancy
sunglasses in Louis Vuitton? Isn't that on re are?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Anyway, You're not that, you're You're you're somebody else. Let's
let's get into it. ESPs you were at ESPN. ESPN
has a reporter who goes by the name Sam Ponder,
who has made the claim that talking about fairness when
it comes to biological males playing in women's sports is ridiculous.
(02:00):
Tell us about this? Is this one's gotten a lot
of traction online. As a former ESPN alumna, what do
you think about this one?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, first of all, I just want to say that
I'm proud of Sam for standing up for what she
believes it even though she knows it's not the popular
thing to do over at ESPN, nor the popular belief
to have at ESPN. Although I will say that coming
from ESPN to OutKick, which wasn't such a I guess
assumed move on my end or one that people expected
(02:31):
or that has gotten a lot of applause. There are
several people who have quietly messaged me since I've made
the transition, saying I'm so excited for you.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
This was an awesome move.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Thank you so much for putting yourself in the position
where you can be the voice that we do not have.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So while I say.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Her opinion is not popular, I mean that publicly it's
not popular. I think a lot of people realize that
having biological men competing against women is absolutely absurd and
under like, under no.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Light should it be happening.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
But yes, Sam is something that she's been just i
think a third time saying something about it. Her along
with Sage Dealer, really the only two people over at
ESPN that have publicly said anything about this.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But Sam knew what she was getting into.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
She's gotten called a bigot and probably far worse than
the other two times that she commented on this same issue. Really,
commenting on her support for Riley Gaines is where it
all began. And this time, you know, similarly commenting and
people just love to be crazy right now, even though
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there's so many people, like I said, who realize.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Right I think I was reading before from so because
I was actually confused even about who was accusing whom
of what here. Nancy Armor of USA Today wrote this piece,
what ESPN Sam Ponder calls fairness is plain old bigotry,
and I think it's so. I think it is so
(04:03):
interesting to see that when you look in the comments
of these things. We look at the comments of this piece,
the comments on Twitter, it's really illuminating because you'll see
people who say, you know, just like you can tell
they're everyday folks. So I'm not talking about blue checks
with you know, one hundred thousand followers or whatever. They'll
just say, yeah, if I were playing in a peewee
football league and stiff arming all the little kids into
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the ground and like trampling them as a thirty year
old guy, let's say, because I identify as an eight
year old, everybody would understand that there's a huge biological
advantage to that. But we are really to believe now
that women are not disadvantage by playing against men. I
find that's fascinat because you were at a sports the
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sports network really before ESPN. I refuse to believe that
ESPN anchors actually believe that, you know what I mean,
like I don't believe that they believe what they're saying.
So what's going on.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, it's interesting because there was a new development later
on in the day. I want to say it was
either yesterday or today. Sarah Spain, who's also a reporter
over at ESPN, who is pretty well known for her ultraliberal.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Takes and views, she actually liked the you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Know, the publicizing of Nancy's USA Today article. She liked
the article in which Sam Ponder was called a bigot.
So now here we have one ESPN personality hating on
another ESPN personality, which is really looked down upon at
the company, as you can imagine. So I'm wondering how
this is going to be dealt with because you know,
(05:40):
this is another ESPN employee essentially confirming and standing by
this USA Today author saying, yeah, Sam Ponder's a bigot
for what she said. But I think you're right. I
think the majority of people do not believe. But here's
the thing. You don't hear money people talk about it,
so it's like, you know, they don't really they don't
really believe what they're saying. Most people don't talk about it,
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so they're not saying anything about it, so they're not
really going against what they believe, and they just don't
comment on it because they realize that they do, they'll
end up like Sam Ponder and be called a bigot
by the masses of people who are just crazy these days.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yes, it's remarkable. I mean, what happened to sports? That's
a broad question. But you know, I was even telling
Clay because Clay always you know, you and I both
know Clay well. He jokes around the other time. He says, well,
Buck's not really goodto sports, and I would say to him, like,
I actually actually love sports, and you should ask Clay
what happened when we played ping pong recently. I love sports, yeah,
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you know guy stuff. And I played growing up, and
I played you know, different, and then I watched sports too.
I grew up watching the New York Knicks. I had
an uncle who had season tickets a few years to
New York Knicks, so I would go with him to
lots of games, and it just to me, it's just
in the last I don't know, you call it ten
or fifteen years maybe, but certain in the last ten
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years it just kind of went crazy. And now all
of a sudden, there are all these athletes and these
leagues too, that are taking very polytical positions and I
just can't stomach it anymore, Like what happened? Where did
this all come from? As you see it?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, I think there's like a very small group of activists,
you know, the woke mob if you will, that are
screaming so loudly about everything that it's like just because
they're the loudest ones in society right now, they are
controlling the narrative.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And we have a lot of people who have already.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Infiltrated these mega corporations, these sporting organizations who are also
ultra woke, who are now choosing to ignore consumer bases,
ignore fan bases, and choosing instead to follow along with
a certain narrative that's being pushed by this small group
of activists. And that's their goal right now, that's their priority.
(08:00):
And you see it in the NBA. You know, we've
seen it for a while now, especially when COVID hit
in the bubble. You know, we saw these athletes, instead
of wearing their names on their jersey, picked like social
justice phrases, which a lot of people were like, wait,
what's going on here? I'm here to watch basketball, like,
I'm not here to talk politics or think about politics,
or think about the pandemic that we're going through.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is my escape.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And now you just saw lately with the Dodgers, they
had disinvited the what was it called Sisters of their
Perpetual Indulgence. These this group of twisted trannies who were
just anti Christian and anti Catholic, and they got so
much backlash that they decided to walk it back and say, hey,
never mind, you can come, and not only are we
reinviting you, we're going to bestow you with our Hero
(08:45):
Encourage Award of the Night instead, you know, of paying
attention to one of their biggest fan bases, which is
the Latinos.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
A lot of them come to the games, and many of.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Them are Christian, and you know, they put their priorities forward.
And now they're having to walk it back a little
bit even more and making Clayton Kershaw the poster child
to do so, because now he's announced, oh, hey, the
Dodgers are going to be having now are Christian Knight,
which you know they claim they were going to have anyways,
but now they've just reintroduced it sooner, probably because they
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got even more backlashed again.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's it's all just very wild.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So I want to ask you. We'll come to this
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remember in the early days of the UFC. I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure. I with a bunch of friends, remember
these have like these pay per view events you'd pay
like eighty dollars or one hundred dollars, whether it's a
boxing match or whatever. We did one of the pay
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per view things for It wasn't called the UFC at
the time. I think it was, uh, I forget what
the name of the league, but it was one of
these like ultimate fighting situations. Yeah, that's now become a
multi billion dollar business, right, that's become a massive, massive
sports enterprise. Is Data White. Clay told me the other
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day Data White is involved as well with this this
slap fighting thing. Tell everybody about this, and then explained
to me, like you, is this a thing that could become?
Is this all a joke to people? Are they seriously?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Oh my gosh, listen, there's some people who joke around
about it because it is in some ways hard to
take seriously. You have grown men who are just allowing them,
like you know, standing there in front of another grown man,
who are These guys are big men to in a
lot of cases, and they just slap the crap out
of each other like it's intense. It's I'm not talking
(12:06):
just to slap, you know, of a little bit of
a reprimand like you used to get from your mother.
I'm talking guys, grown men, two hundred plus pound guys
getting knocked out with one slap.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It is crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So to answer your question, Dana White actually saw the
popularity that this sport was garnering because the power slap,
which is what the UFC is calling it, is not
a new sports. Slap fighting has actually been around for
a long time, but predominantly was popular in Eastern European
countries and was really making headway on social media in
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places like YouTube, so it was getting millions of views
per clip. So Dana is like, why don't we have
this in the US. So he got it commissioned. So
now instead of having you know, these you know kind
of I guess Ramshackle fight events, you know, for these
slap fighters you know, all over the world, these are
sanctioned events by the Nevada Athletic Commission. There's referees, there's
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a doctor on hand, like it's it's just like the UFC.
It's taken very seriously. They're trying to do it as
safely as possible. And yeah, they have full on events.
Rumble is their broadcast partner, and listen, Dana has passed
along the numbers. The numbers speak for themselves. People are
watching and it's making a lot of money. People love it.
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So I can only imagine Dana White as you know,
a very intelligent man. When he really sinks his teeth
into something, there's no way you can tell him no
at that point. So he's committed to this and there's
already like plans laid out for the future. The next
couple of years, they're gonna go to Abu Dhabi. I
think later this year for another like to find another
crop of slat fighters, and then I think hold their
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next live event there.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Honestly so crazy, but like so clearly, if you get
slapped during power slap and you get knocked out, I
assume you lose. But is there is it like by
decision if you don't get knocked out? How many slaps? Like,
just explain the rules to be a little bit okay.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
So it's it's three rounds, unless it's a title fight
that it's five rounds, and there's a coin toss to
determine who will slop first, because if you win the
coin toss, you will choose to slop first because there's
a you know, you'd think there'd be an advantage there.
So yeah, it's the guys stand, there's a podium in
between them, two guys standing on either side. There's the
striker and there's the defender. So the striker will you know,
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he has to say if he's going to slop on one, two,
or three. So he starts by lining his hand up
on the other guy's cheek. Then he winds back and
some of these wind ups buck are wild.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I mean they get they get low.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They're bringing up back like you have former baseball players.
You've got some MMA dudes there. They know, you know,
they have their own tactics. So they will wind up
and they'll say one, two, and then on three if
they've declared you know right hand, on three, three is
when they'll strike. And I'm telling you, like, there's a
lot that goes into It's a lot of core strength,
it's a lot of biceps, a lot of shoulder, a
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lot of back and uh, I mean they will they
rock each other.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And the guy on who's on defense.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean some of these the way they absorb some
of these shots, it's unbelievable because I know me, if
I were standing up there, I'd be dead right.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I'm down.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We'll never see her hear from me again. I probably have,
you know, issues moving forward. But yeah, these these guys
know what they're getting themselves into. And then they'll turn
right back around. I think it's thirty seconds later they
have to recover. Unless there was a foul that get
some extra time. They're turned to deliver and whoever either
knocks the other person out will win or it'll go
to a decision at the end.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It's like the I mean, I can't believe it, but
I guess I can at some level. Some people, I think, might.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Say, there's tons of clips online right now.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You got to check out a few there.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh no, I've I've seen one or two, like it's
come across my It's come across my my Instagram, you know,
like suggested, and I've watched one or two. And they've
got some of these guys. I mean they you know,
these like big sort of like beefy looking Russian guy
that like slaps another dude in the face and knocks
him out cold, and I'm just good heaving.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Some people might say that Charlie, this is how civilization
starts to crumble, but that that's a whole other. That's
a whole other.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Civilization is already crumbling in many other ways that I
find way more absurd than this.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
So he really cares.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, No, it's it's it's a remarkable and remarkable thing
to see. We're to come back here at a second,
and uh, I wanted to ask you what you think
about all the stuff as somebody who work wait, does
does Disney own ESPN?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yes, Ah, I know you're catching on.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Huh. We're gonna we're gonna talk some Disney in a second.
We're gonna we're gonna power slap Disney together. It's gonna
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So Disney, and.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Also I would I need to tell you that was
actually an excellent transition because before they slap, they put
their hands in the chalk.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
So there you go, Ah, look at that. Thanks job,
thank you. I do what I can. I was, you know,
I was honestly thinking before how much money would someone
have to pay me? Because I bet this is going
to come up and be a thing too, because you know,
getting in the it feels like if if you get
in the ring, let's say with like Mike Tyson and
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his prime or something, I mean a couple of shots
from him, and you could, you know, it could get
like really really bad obviously for like it for an
average show. I mean you could get you know, you
could snap your neck, back, brain damage, really really that. Okay,
So if they want to do that, not get in
the room with Mike Tyson or any heavyweight pro fighter
in his prime. But how many guys out there would
consider taking a slap open hand slap if the money
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were right? And I was trying to think to myself
how much money would it take and it would be
an astronomical, astronomical sum to take it to take a shot. Yeah,
for one of these guys, Well you have to wonder.
I mean, you know, I remember in the early days,
and we'll get to Disney in the second, but in
the early days of earlier days, I should say, like
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maybe mid two thousands of UFC, I think around two ten,
twenty eleven maybe was the first time this person appeared
on the scene. But I used to say, with the
transgender stuff, how long it's one thing to be to
allow a trans you know, trans female to run against
other women and like win the gold medal, and it's
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I think that's gross, it's wrong. Riley Gaines, you know,
has become a friend of the show. And I'm sure
you know Riley, you know, swimming against somebody and losing,
that's crappy. That stinks. Having a male that fights you
as a female UFC fighter is dangerous. And there was
that fallon Fox. Individual I don't know is if he's
still fighting, but he was fighting women as a male
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in the in the cage, right, and that actually happened.
So I think it's only a matter of time before
you have some guy who weighs three hundred pounds has
a wig and lipstick on who says, I, you know,
I'm doing the female slap fight, although I don't know
if they're doing that yet, right, they haven't done women.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
No, no, no, they're not as Listen, I don't think
Dana White, of all people, has any plans on letting
females and men, females and males compete against you each other.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
He's he's on the same side as we're on.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So so so yeah fallon Fox that was not competing
in UFC.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That was That was another mm A promotion. I'm not
exactly sure which one, but yeah, Dana White nowhere.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, I think he has too much respect for the
game honestly, like you know, for.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The advantage for men have.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Everyone realizes it. Just a lot of people want to,
you know, turn a blind eye to it. But come on,
it's individual sports is one thing, like you said, totally disgusting,
gross trampling on the rights of women, sealing opportunities.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
But uh, we're going.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
To not just hurt feelings aside, We're going we talk
about real injuries once it comes to contact sports if
we keep allowing this to sligne.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I've told you I love playing tennis. Uh And I've
told you before you can lose. You can lose terribly
in tennis and have a great time. I did a
tiny bit, a tiny bit of boxing when I was
a kid. It is not fun losing him. When you
get your ass laid out and you are on the
canvas and you're like this person is better, stronger and
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faster me, You're not like that was fun. That was
a good you know, that was a good session. So yeah,
it would be the same thing I assume with UFC
in power slap. All Right, Disney, Disney, let's talk about this.
I'm gonna assume you have not seen the Little Mermaid
remake where the Little Mermaid is black, but you may
have seen the New York Times review I think of
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it where they said that the movie needed more kink.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
What a weird thing to day, What a freaking weird
thing to say.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Who says that about a movie that is geared towards
our children?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I don't know, That's what I'm like, what does that
even mean? I asked Clay this the other day on radio.
I'm like, what does that even mean? I don't even
know what it means.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You know what it means. It means that people are sick.
I remember, I'll say, back in the day, remember Disney
used to sneak in little weird sexual in the windows time.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Open legend or was that true?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It? I mean? Okay, So I guess it's never been confirmed,
obviously by Disney, whether or not the things that people
claimed were hidden little sexual tidbits.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Were in fact that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
But I remember there was a couple like one in
the in The Little Mermaid where it was like one
of the little underwater things or whatever, like one of
the little creatures had like his little manhood like spinning
around for like a little quick couple of seconds, and
I saw it, So it exists, But I don't know
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if it was like maybe it was just like something
that was flying around in front of it more if
it was actually And then I know in Aladdin there
was some like line where he quickly says, Jasmine, take
off your clothes, like but it's really hard to Oh.
And one more in The Lion King, when he collapses
into the dust the word sex.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I saw that. Yes, that's real. I've seen that.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Ok So if that's real, probably there are a few
others that are real, which, honestly, now as an adult,
I appreciate a little hidden something for the adults, sure,
but not something that's so like like what's the word
like outwardly like geared towards children like this. You know,
columnist is insinuating, Oh, there needs to be more kink.
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What do you mean more kink?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I just don't understand this.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
This feels like, you know, all the other corporations that
are shoving all of this insanity into our faces and
we have nothing to say about it. It just seems
like now people are like, no, we need more of this.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It has to happen. It's indoctrination.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
If you ask me, do you remember the head of
content at Disney the video was leaked? I think Chris
Ruffo initially got it and then shared it and it
was all over the internet where she said I have
a a non binary child and a pan sexual child.
Do you do you remember that this came out? And
(23:57):
I remember just sitting there and talking about this on
the show You.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Have three kids?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Wasn't one non binary, one was gay, and one was
pan sexual?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think that may it may actually have been all
I don't even remember, but I I just remember, first
of all, thinking that I have a pretty decent vocabulary,
and legitimately took a step back and was like, I
don't even know what pan sexual is supposed to mean.
I mean, I know what, I know what the what
what pan in the context of you know, of of
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Greek prefix is supposed to mean? But like pan what
is what is pan sexual?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I mean, there's bisexual, but what is pants? So and
as it was explaining to me, it means now not
only you you know, it's crazy you're attracted to men
and women who are cis gender, but you're also attracted
sexually to non binary. By the way, It's like, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Why why do I assist female? I'm a female? There's
no cis anyways, police continue but.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
No, no, it's it's fine. But it did. But that
just goes to and the usage of language in this
way is meant to be a signaling mechanism. It's meant
to have people jumping through all these hoops to show
their allegiance to the cause and also to make other people,
uh even sometimes subconsciously. So right like you start saying
I say this, I mean, that's why I freak out
about the pronoun thing.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And yeah, and did.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
You see bucket Johns Hopkins how they have now introduced
a whole guidebook they recently there's like fifty or fifty
something like proment pronouns, like ones like XE like how
do you pronounce xe?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What is? Or fae r like what does fair self mean?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
There's just so many now, and like people are expected
to keep them straight and use them properly or else
you're seen as being impolite or.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
It's an obediences it's an obedience test for a lot
of people. For one thing, if you're willing to do
all this or even try to do all of this,
then you're telling the people in charge, so to speak,
that you know you'll go along. And also it keeps
all the rest of us constantly in this state of well,
not that you and I care, but for other people,
keeps them in a state of constant anxiety where they
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want the approval of the activists who are pushing this
stuffcause they don't want to be a bad person. They
don't want to be doubt for using the wrong pronoun
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
It may be.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
But it does feel like bringing it back to Disney people.
Have you seen some of the polling, some of the
numbers on this. People are pretty angry now. They get
the sense that Disney is trying to indoctrinate their kids
with all this. It's not even right just say it's
sexual content. It's like bizarre alternative sexual content, like stuff
(26:38):
that even adults don't know or haven't known about until
five minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Right, Yeah, I mean we've seen a lot of instances
of it Disney. I think there was the Transformers cartoon
recently where they were, you know, talking about being non binary.
It's just like being shoved in everyone's face is so
often now, and I just it's sad because I think
for a lot of kids, you know, they're so impressionable
(27:05):
and they're not asking for it, But when they're constantly
seeing this in their programs, is their constant hearing about
it at school?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know, their teachers are now discussing it. They're on
TikTok or.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Whatever social media form they use, and it's being you know,
once you hit that algorithm and you're constantly now seeing
stuff about transgenders or you know, I don't know, just
being gay or non binary or being a furry or
all these weird like things that are happening right now.
Kids are like getting it into their minds and then thinking, oh, well,
(27:37):
you know, if I like to play with a doll,
let's say, maybe I'm supposed to be a girl, when
really it's like no, maybe maybe you just like to
play with dolls. Maybe one day you're going to grow
up to be the biggest doll maker in the world,
and you'll be the most masculine man to ever do it,
you know what I mean. Like, I just think there's
so much confusion now, and it's not easy being a kid,
Like you're already going through so much emotionally, and like
when puberty hits.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You're like, you know what's going on inside my body?
You don't even know what's happening.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And to have all of these weird thoughts being introduced
by people you trust. You know, when you watch a
Disney movie, you think, Okay, this is Disney, I can
try this, this is my teacher. I can trust what
they say. You know, my parents, Like there's a lot
of parents who seem to even be force feeding it
to their own kids, which is the scariest thing of all.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
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Speaker 2 (29:42):
Time is Remember the Titans.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Hmmm, solid, I can't. I was hoping I'd be able
to throw some mockery your way.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
You know, I actually have one that you could throw
mockery at because I really love loving basketball also, but.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I was juggling that you love that one too.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I haven't even seen I don't even know. I don't
even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, it's so good, but it's a little more.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I has a little bit more of like a romance asset.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
So that's what the That's with the White I got
to watch that with the wife. That that one.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
But Remember the Titans. I mean, I'm obsessed with Denzel Washington.
He's fantastic in every movie he's ever in, and he
just says, I like it. It has like a nice little
you know, character building, moral.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
To the story. So you know, I don't Denzel good soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I think Denzel Washington is one of the finest, uh
living actors, so I would agree with you on that front.
I would also, though, say I think Major League is
the best sports movie of all time. And I'm I'm
in wait, You've never seen it, never seen it? This
is an outrage. You're an esp and you I have.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
To admit, like in most people, like you know if
if you know me, you know I didn't grow up
with baseball. So I've never really been a baseball fan
and that continues till this day. Don't know much about baseball.
Uh the only reason I'm going to a baseball game
is to get a tan and Drinkabierready to HOWK dog?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
What is sport number one for you? Then? Like, what
is the sport you love the most to watch?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
NFL?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
NFL? Okay? Interesting?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna add Major League to my
list though, and then I'm gonna report back.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I gotta say the best football because usually people say
when I A lot of a lot of people I
have talked to say they always say rudy And at
this I'm like.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
He wasn't even that good. He got on the team for.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Like five seconds. He did one play. You know, I
don't know. It's a story of you know, I don't know.
The kid probably should have studied a little bit more,
if you look. I think later on he ran into
some problems in life, like it's not that important to
get one.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I don't know. And ever, all the Notre Dame fans
wherever they are watching is probably hate me for this,
but I just like, I enjoyed the movie, but I
was always like, eh, kind of much ado about nothing.
It's not like a story about excellence. It's about perseverance
for something that doesn't really it didn't cure cancer. Oh
and I'm just trying to troll people now, I guess,
but I didn't think Rudy was.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It's not on my Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
So yeah, it's just not on my I don't see it. Oh,
I love Rudy so much, you know, Rudy Rudy. And
then I guess the best foot my best football shit. Oh,
it was clearly Friday night Lights for me, at least,
I love Friday night Lights, which I assume you would
probably like to best what what would you have? What's
the best football movie?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well? Remember the Titans is football, but.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Oh I forgot remember the Titans. There you go that.
I was just trying to think of football movies off
because I was thinking. I was like, there's any given
Sunday Varsity Blues. I did like that very much. It
felt like a little bit of a ripoff of It's
a little bit of a ripoff of Friday Night Lights,
the book.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
That was just a little bit more of like a
trendy like, you know, you throw in like the popular
guy at the time, James Vanderbeek, you know, a little
whipped cream here and there.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that was a That was a
great movie, and I very much enjoyed it, all right,
Charlie Arnold, Which makes me so happy that I'm the
one who says it properly. Where can everyone go to
see your great stuff? Both on OutKick over at Fox
and on Fox News.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Okay, so on OutKick, I'm going to be guest hosting
Hot Mike several times throughout the month. This Friday is
the first of them three to six pm Eastern, so
I'll be filling in there. Otherwise you just catch me
here and there. I'll be on Don't At Me with
Dan Dokicic, you know, once a week. Yeah, so until
(33:31):
the show launches in August, that's the plan. Just get
me plugged in wherever I can, and then as far
as Fox goes, you don't know when I'm gonna pop up.
I'll be on Hannity a couple times this week, I'll
be on Fox Business a few times.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
So yeah, it's really just luck at the draw, run
on the TV.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
If you spot me, there you go. Everybody look for
Charlie on Arnold at Charlie on Fox, Charlie Arnold and
also OutKick, so check it out.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Charlie, thanks so much on social media, Charlie on TV.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Charlie on TV. Go find her on the social media. Charlie,
thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Look, thank you so much
You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to The
Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, we're going to talk
about women, women in sports, and all the things going
on right now with the current Biden administration position on
(00:33):
some of this stuff, the media is positioning on it,
and so much more. We're joined by our friend Charlie Arnold.
She is a Fox News contributor and a host at
OutKick and formerly of ESPN, which is something we shall
certainly talk about. Charlie, first time on the program. Great
to have you, Thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And I also have to give you a little bit
of credit because I think you were the only person
in the past six weeks since I started at Fox,
except for Clay Travis, who has said my name correctly.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It is.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's hilarious how many different variations I've gotten coming onto
each and every program. I get Harley, I get R No,
are not. It's just it's all over the place. So
thank you for saying it correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I do what I can.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I'm not. I'm not gonna do the whole French thing
with your name because I don't know. You know, Arno.
Isn't that like a automaker too? Is that the guy
who owns but I think he owns all the fancy
sunglasses in Louis Vuitton? Isn't that on re are?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Anyway, You're not that, you're You're you're somebody else. Let's
let's get into it. ESPs you were at ESPN. ESPN
has a reporter who goes by the name Sam Ponder,
who has made the claim that talking about fairness when
it comes to biological males playing in women's sports is ridiculous.
(02:00):
Tell us about this? Is this one's gotten a lot
of traction online. As a former ESPN alumna, what do
you think about this one?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, first of all, I just want to say that
I'm proud of Sam for standing up for what she
believes it even though she knows it's not the popular
thing to do over at ESPN, nor the popular belief
to have at ESPN. Although I will say that coming
from ESPN to OutKick, which wasn't such a I guess
assumed move on my end or one that people expected
(02:31):
or that has gotten a lot of applause. There are
several people who have quietly messaged me since I've made
the transition, saying I'm so excited for you.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
This was an awesome move.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Thank you so much for putting yourself in the position
where you can be the voice that we do not have.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So while I say.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Her opinion is not popular, I mean that publicly it's
not popular. I think a lot of people realize that
having biological men competing against women is absolutely absurd and
under like, under no.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Light should it be happening.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
But yes, Sam is something that she's been just i
think a third time saying something about it. Her along
with Sage Dealer, really the only two people over at
ESPN that have publicly said anything about this.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But Sam knew what she was getting into.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
She's gotten called a bigot and probably far worse than
the other two times that she commented on this same issue. Really,
commenting on her support for Riley Gaines is where it
all began. And this time, you know, similarly commenting and
people just love to be crazy right now, even though
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there's so many people, like I said, who realize.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Right I think I was reading before from so because
I was actually confused even about who was accusing whom
of what here. Nancy Armor of USA Today wrote this piece,
what ESPN Sam Ponder calls fairness is plain old bigotry,
and I think it's so. I think it is so
(04:03):
interesting to see that when you look in the comments
of these things. We look at the comments of this piece,
the comments on Twitter, it's really illuminating because you'll see
people who say, you know, just like you can tell
they're everyday folks. So I'm not talking about blue checks
with you know, one hundred thousand followers or whatever. They'll
just say, yeah, if I were playing in a peewee
football league and stiff arming all the little kids into
(04:26):
the ground and like trampling them as a thirty year
old guy, let's say, because I identify as an eight
year old, everybody would understand that there's a huge biological
advantage to that. But we are really to believe now
that women are not disadvantage by playing against men. I
find that's fascinat because you were at a sports the
(04:46):
sports network really before ESPN. I refuse to believe that
ESPN anchors actually believe that, you know what I mean,
like I don't believe that they believe what they're saying.
So what's going on.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, it's interesting because there was a new development later
on in the day. I want to say it was
either yesterday or today. Sarah Spain, who's also a reporter
over at ESPN, who is pretty well known for her ultraliberal.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Takes and views, she actually liked the you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Know, the publicizing of Nancy's USA Today article. She liked
the article in which Sam Ponder was called a bigot.
So now here we have one ESPN personality hating on
another ESPN personality, which is really looked down upon at
the company, as you can imagine. So I'm wondering how
this is going to be dealt with because you know,
(05:40):
this is another ESPN employee essentially confirming and standing by
this USA Today author saying, yeah, Sam Ponder's a bigot
for what she said. But I think you're right. I
think the majority of people do not believe. But here's
the thing. You don't hear money people talk about it,
so it's like, you know, they don't really they don't
really believe what they're saying. Most people don't talk about it,
(06:04):
so they're not saying anything about it, so they're not
really going against what they believe, and they just don't
comment on it because they realize that they do, they'll
end up like Sam Ponder and be called a bigot
by the masses of people who are just crazy these days.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yes, it's remarkable. I mean, what happened to sports? That's
a broad question. But you know, I was even telling
Clay because Clay always you know, you and I both
know Clay well. He jokes around the other time. He says, well,
Buck's not really goodto sports, and I would say to him, like,
I actually actually love sports, and you should ask Clay
what happened when we played ping pong recently. I love sports, yeah,
(06:41):
you know guy stuff. And I played growing up, and
I played you know, different, and then I watched sports too.
I grew up watching the New York Knicks. I had
an uncle who had season tickets a few years to
New York Knicks, so I would go with him to
lots of games, and it just to me, it's just
in the last I don't know, you call it ten
or fifteen years maybe, but certain in the last ten
(07:02):
years it just kind of went crazy. And now all
of a sudden, there are all these athletes and these
leagues too, that are taking very polytical positions and I
just can't stomach it anymore, Like what happened? Where did
this all come from? As you see it?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, I think there's like a very small group of activists,
you know, the woke mob if you will, that are
screaming so loudly about everything that it's like just because
they're the loudest ones in society right now, they are
controlling the narrative.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And we have a lot of people who have already.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Infiltrated these mega corporations, these sporting organizations who are also
ultra woke, who are now choosing to ignore consumer bases,
ignore fan bases, and choosing instead to follow along with
a certain narrative that's being pushed by this small group
of activists. And that's their goal right now, that's their priority.
(08:00):
And you see it in the NBA. You know, we've
seen it for a while now, especially when COVID hit
in the bubble. You know, we saw these athletes, instead
of wearing their names on their jersey, picked like social
justice phrases, which a lot of people were like, wait,
what's going on here? I'm here to watch basketball, like,
I'm not here to talk politics or think about politics,
or think about the pandemic that we're going through.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is my escape.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And now you just saw lately with the Dodgers, they
had disinvited the what was it called Sisters of their
Perpetual Indulgence. These this group of twisted trannies who were
just anti Christian and anti Catholic, and they got so
much backlash that they decided to walk it back and say, hey,
never mind, you can come, and not only are we
reinviting you, we're going to bestow you with our Hero
(08:45):
Encourage Award of the Night instead, you know, of paying
attention to one of their biggest fan bases, which is
the Latinos.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
A lot of them come to the games, and many of.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Them are Christian, and you know, they put their priorities forward.
And now they're having to walk it back a little
bit even more and making Clayton Kershaw the poster child
to do so, because now he's announced, oh, hey, the
Dodgers are going to be having now are Christian Knight,
which you know they claim they were going to have anyways,
but now they've just reintroduced it sooner, probably because they
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got even more backlashed again.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's it's all just very wild.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So I want to ask you. We'll come to this
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remember in the early days of the UFC. I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure. I with a bunch of friends, remember
these have like these pay per view events you'd pay
like eighty dollars or one hundred dollars, whether it's a
boxing match or whatever. We did one of the pay
(11:11):
per view things for It wasn't called the UFC at
the time. I think it was, uh, I forget what
the name of the league, but it was one of
these like ultimate fighting situations. Yeah, that's now become a
multi billion dollar business, right, that's become a massive, massive
sports enterprise. Is Data White. Clay told me the other
(11:32):
day Data White is involved as well with this this
slap fighting thing. Tell everybody about this, and then explained
to me, like you, is this a thing that could become?
Is this all a joke to people? Are they seriously?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Oh my gosh, listen, there's some people who joke around
about it because it is in some ways hard to
take seriously. You have grown men who are just allowing them,
like you know, standing there in front of another grown man,
who are These guys are big men to in a
lot of cases, and they just slap the crap out
of each other like it's intense. It's I'm not talking
(12:06):
just to slap, you know, of a little bit of
a reprimand like you used to get from your mother.
I'm talking guys, grown men, two hundred plus pound guys
getting knocked out with one slap.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It is crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So to answer your question, Dana White actually saw the
popularity that this sport was garnering because the power slap,
which is what the UFC is calling it, is not
a new sports. Slap fighting has actually been around for
a long time, but predominantly was popular in Eastern European
countries and was really making headway on social media in
(12:40):
places like YouTube, so it was getting millions of views
per clip. So Dana is like, why don't we have
this in the US. So he got it commissioned. So
now instead of having you know, these you know kind
of I guess Ramshackle fight events, you know, for these
slap fighters you know, all over the world, these are
sanctioned events by the Nevada Athletic Commission. There's referees, there's
(13:02):
a doctor on hand, like it's it's just like the UFC.
It's taken very seriously. They're trying to do it as
safely as possible. And yeah, they have full on events.
Rumble is their broadcast partner, and listen, Dana has passed
along the numbers. The numbers speak for themselves. People are
watching and it's making a lot of money. People love it.
(13:24):
So I can only imagine Dana White as you know,
a very intelligent man. When he really sinks his teeth
into something, there's no way you can tell him no
at that point. So he's committed to this and there's
already like plans laid out for the future. The next
couple of years, they're gonna go to Abu Dhabi. I
think later this year for another like to find another
crop of slat fighters, and then I think hold their
(13:46):
next live event there.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Honestly so crazy, but like so clearly, if you get
slapped during power slap and you get knocked out, I
assume you lose. But is there is it like by
decision if you don't get knocked out? How many slaps? Like,
just explain the rules to be a little bit okay.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
So it's it's three rounds, unless it's a title fight
that it's five rounds, and there's a coin toss to
determine who will slop first, because if you win the
coin toss, you will choose to slop first because there's
a you know, you'd think there'd be an advantage there.
So yeah, it's the guys stand, there's a podium in
between them, two guys standing on either side. There's the
striker and there's the defender. So the striker will you know,
(14:33):
he has to say if he's going to slop on one, two,
or three. So he starts by lining his hand up
on the other guy's cheek. Then he winds back and
some of these wind ups buck are wild.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I mean they get they get low.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They're bringing up back like you have former baseball players.
You've got some MMA dudes there. They know, you know,
they have their own tactics. So they will wind up
and they'll say one, two, and then on three if
they've declared you know right hand, on three, three is
when they'll strike. And I'm telling you, like, there's a
lot that goes into It's a lot of core strength,
it's a lot of biceps, a lot of shoulder, a
(15:06):
lot of back and uh, I mean they will they
rock each other.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And the guy on who's on defense.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean some of these the way they absorb some
of these shots, it's unbelievable because I know me, if
I were standing up there, I'd be dead right.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I'm down.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We'll never see her hear from me again. I probably have,
you know, issues moving forward. But yeah, these these guys
know what they're getting themselves into. And then they'll turn
right back around. I think it's thirty seconds later they
have to recover. Unless there was a foul that get
some extra time. They're turned to deliver and whoever either
knocks the other person out will win or it'll go
to a decision at the end.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It's like the I mean, I can't believe it, but
I guess I can at some level. Some people, I think, might.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Say, there's tons of clips online right now.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You got to check out a few there.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh no, I've I've seen one or two, like it's
come across my It's come across my my Instagram, you know,
like suggested, and I've watched one or two. And they've
got some of these guys. I mean they you know,
these like big sort of like beefy looking Russian guy
that like slaps another dude in the face and knocks
him out cold, and I'm just good heaving.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Some people might say that Charlie, this is how civilization
starts to crumble, but that that's a whole other. That's
a whole other.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Civilization is already crumbling in many other ways that I
find way more absurd than this.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
So he really cares.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, No, it's it's it's a remarkable and remarkable thing
to see. We're to come back here at a second,
and uh, I wanted to ask you what you think
about all the stuff as somebody who work wait, does
does Disney own ESPN?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yes, Ah, I know you're catching on.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Huh. We're gonna we're gonna talk some Disney in a second.
We're gonna we're gonna power slap Disney together. It's gonna
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So Disney, and.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Also I would I need to tell you that was
actually an excellent transition because before they slap, they put
their hands in the chalk.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
So there you go, Ah, look at that. Thanks job,
thank you. I do what I can. I was, you know,
I was honestly thinking before how much money would someone
have to pay me? Because I bet this is going
to come up and be a thing too, because you know,
getting in the it feels like if if you get
in the ring, let's say with like Mike Tyson and
(18:21):
his prime or something, I mean a couple of shots
from him, and you could, you know, it could get
like really really bad obviously for like it for an
average show. I mean you could get you know, you
could snap your neck, back, brain damage, really really that. Okay,
So if they want to do that, not get in
the room with Mike Tyson or any heavyweight pro fighter
in his prime. But how many guys out there would
consider taking a slap open hand slap if the money
(18:45):
were right? And I was trying to think to myself
how much money would it take and it would be
an astronomical, astronomical sum to take it to take a shot. Yeah,
for one of these guys, Well you have to wonder.
I mean, you know, I remember in the early days,
and we'll get to Disney in the second, but in
the early days of earlier days, I should say, like
(19:06):
maybe mid two thousands of UFC, I think around two ten,
twenty eleven maybe was the first time this person appeared
on the scene. But I used to say, with the
transgender stuff, how long it's one thing to be to
allow a trans you know, trans female to run against
other women and like win the gold medal, and it's
(19:26):
I think that's gross, it's wrong. Riley Gaines, you know,
has become a friend of the show. And I'm sure
you know Riley, you know, swimming against somebody and losing,
that's crappy. That stinks. Having a male that fights you
as a female UFC fighter is dangerous. And there was
that fallon Fox. Individual I don't know is if he's
still fighting, but he was fighting women as a male
(19:49):
in the in the cage, right, and that actually happened.
So I think it's only a matter of time before
you have some guy who weighs three hundred pounds has
a wig and lipstick on who says, I, you know,
I'm doing the female slap fight, although I don't know
if they're doing that yet, right, they haven't done women.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
No, no, no, they're not as Listen, I don't think
Dana White, of all people, has any plans on letting
females and men, females and males compete against you each other.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
He's he's on the same side as we're on.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So so so yeah fallon Fox that was not competing
in UFC.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That was That was another mm A promotion. I'm not
exactly sure which one, but yeah, Dana White nowhere.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, I think he has too much respect for the
game honestly, like you know, for.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The advantage for men have.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Everyone realizes it. Just a lot of people want to,
you know, turn a blind eye to it. But come on,
it's individual sports is one thing, like you said, totally disgusting,
gross trampling on the rights of women, sealing opportunities.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
But uh, we're going.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
To not just hurt feelings aside, We're going we talk
about real injuries once it comes to contact sports if
we keep allowing this to sligne.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I've told you I love playing tennis. Uh And I've
told you before you can lose. You can lose terribly
in tennis and have a great time. I did a
tiny bit, a tiny bit of boxing when I was
a kid. It is not fun losing him. When you
get your ass laid out and you are on the
canvas and you're like this person is better, stronger and
(21:09):
faster me, You're not like that was fun. That was
a good you know, that was a good session. So yeah,
it would be the same thing I assume with UFC
in power slap. All Right, Disney, Disney, let's talk about this.
I'm gonna assume you have not seen the Little Mermaid
remake where the Little Mermaid is black, but you may
have seen the New York Times review I think of
(21:30):
it where they said that the movie needed more kink.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
What a weird thing to day, What a freaking weird
thing to say.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Who says that about a movie that is geared towards
our children?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I don't know, That's what I'm like, what does that
even mean? I asked Clay this the other day on radio.
I'm like, what does that even mean? I don't even
know what it means.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You know what it means. It means that people are sick.
I remember, I'll say, back in the day, remember Disney
used to sneak in little weird sexual in the windows time.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Open legend or was that true?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It? I mean? Okay, So I guess it's never been confirmed,
obviously by Disney, whether or not the things that people
claimed were hidden little sexual tidbits.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Were in fact that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
But I remember there was a couple like one in
the in The Little Mermaid where it was like one
of the little underwater things or whatever, like one of
the little creatures had like his little manhood like spinning
around for like a little quick couple of seconds, and
I saw it, So it exists, But I don't know
(22:38):
if it was like maybe it was just like something
that was flying around in front of it more if
it was actually And then I know in Aladdin there
was some like line where he quickly says, Jasmine, take
off your clothes, like but it's really hard to Oh.
And one more in The Lion King, when he collapses
into the dust the word sex.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I saw that. Yes, that's real. I've seen that.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Ok So if that's real, probably there are a few
others that are real, which, honestly, now as an adult,
I appreciate a little hidden something for the adults, sure,
but not something that's so like like what's the word
like outwardly like geared towards children like this. You know,
columnist is insinuating, Oh, there needs to be more kink.
(23:21):
What do you mean more kink?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I just don't understand this.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
This feels like, you know, all the other corporations that
are shoving all of this insanity into our faces and
we have nothing to say about it. It just seems
like now people are like, no, we need more of this.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It has to happen. It's indoctrination.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
If you ask me, do you remember the head of
content at Disney the video was leaked? I think Chris
Ruffo initially got it and then shared it and it
was all over the internet where she said I have
a a non binary child and a pan sexual child.
Do you do you remember that this came out? And
(23:57):
I remember just sitting there and talking about this on
the show You.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Have three kids?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Wasn't one non binary, one was gay, and one was
pan sexual?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think that may it may actually have been all
I don't even remember, but I I just remember, first
of all, thinking that I have a pretty decent vocabulary,
and legitimately took a step back and was like, I
don't even know what pan sexual is supposed to mean.
I mean, I know what, I know what the what
what pan in the context of you know, of of
(24:27):
Greek prefix is supposed to mean? But like pan what
is what is pan sexual?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I mean, there's bisexual, but what is pants? So and
as it was explaining to me, it means now not
only you you know, it's crazy you're attracted to men
and women who are cis gender, but you're also attracted
sexually to non binary. By the way, It's like, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Why why do I assist female? I'm a female? There's
no cis anyways, police continue but.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
No, no, it's it's fine. But it did. But that
just goes to and the usage of language in this
way is meant to be a signaling mechanism. It's meant
to have people jumping through all these hoops to show
their allegiance to the cause and also to make other people,
uh even sometimes subconsciously. So right like you start saying
I say this, I mean, that's why I freak out
about the pronoun thing.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And yeah, and did.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
You see bucket Johns Hopkins how they have now introduced
a whole guidebook they recently there's like fifty or fifty
something like proment pronouns, like ones like XE like how
do you pronounce xe?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What is? Or fae r like what does fair self mean?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
There's just so many now, and like people are expected
to keep them straight and use them properly or else
you're seen as being impolite or.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
It's an obediences it's an obedience test for a lot
of people. For one thing, if you're willing to do
all this or even try to do all of this,
then you're telling the people in charge, so to speak,
that you know you'll go along. And also it keeps
all the rest of us constantly in this state of well,
not that you and I care, but for other people,
keeps them in a state of constant anxiety where they
(26:05):
want the approval of the activists who are pushing this
stuffcause they don't want to be a bad person. They
don't want to be doubt for using the wrong pronoun
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
It may be.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
But it does feel like bringing it back to Disney people.
Have you seen some of the polling, some of the
numbers on this. People are pretty angry now. They get
the sense that Disney is trying to indoctrinate their kids
with all this. It's not even right just say it's
sexual content. It's like bizarre alternative sexual content, like stuff
(26:38):
that even adults don't know or haven't known about until
five minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Right, Yeah, I mean we've seen a lot of instances
of it Disney. I think there was the Transformers cartoon
recently where they were, you know, talking about being non binary.
It's just like being shoved in everyone's face is so
often now, and I just it's sad because I think
for a lot of kids, you know, they're so impressionable
(27:05):
and they're not asking for it, But when they're constantly
seeing this in their programs, is their constant hearing about
it at school?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know, their teachers are now discussing it. They're on
TikTok or.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Whatever social media form they use, and it's being you know,
once you hit that algorithm and you're constantly now seeing
stuff about transgenders or you know, I don't know, just
being gay or non binary or being a furry or
all these weird like things that are happening right now.
Kids are like getting it into their minds and then thinking, oh, well,
(27:37):
you know, if I like to play with a doll,
let's say, maybe I'm supposed to be a girl, when
really it's like no, maybe maybe you just like to
play with dolls. Maybe one day you're going to grow
up to be the biggest doll maker in the world,
and you'll be the most masculine man to ever do it,
you know what I mean. Like, I just think there's
so much confusion now, and it's not easy being a kid,
Like you're already going through so much emotionally, and like
when puberty hits.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You're like, you know what's going on inside my body?
You don't even know what's happening.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And to have all of these weird thoughts being introduced
by people you trust. You know, when you watch a
Disney movie, you think, Okay, this is Disney, I can
try this, this is my teacher. I can trust what
they say. You know, my parents, Like there's a lot
of parents who seem to even be force feeding it
to their own kids, which is the scariest thing of all.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Close this out in the second year of Charlie. Don't answer,
but I'm gonna give you a moment to think about
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movie of all.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Time is Remember the Titans.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Hmmm, solid, I can't. I was hoping I'd be able
to throw some mockery your way.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
You know, I actually have one that you could throw
mockery at because I really love loving basketball also, but.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I was juggling that you love that one too.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I haven't even seen I don't even know. I don't
even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, it's so good, but it's a little more.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I has a little bit more of like a romance asset.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
So that's what the That's with the White I got
to watch that with the wife. That that one.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's great.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
But Remember the Titans. I mean, I'm obsessed with Denzel Washington.
He's fantastic in every movie he's ever in, and he
just says, I like it. It has like a nice little
you know, character building, moral.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
To the story. So you know, I don't Denzel good soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I think Denzel Washington is one of the finest, uh
living actors, so I would agree with you on that front.
I would also, though, say I think Major League is
the best sports movie of all time. And I'm I'm
in wait, You've never seen it, never seen it? This
is an outrage. You're an esp and you I have.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
To admit, like in most people, like you know if
if you know me, you know I didn't grow up
with baseball. So I've never really been a baseball fan
and that continues till this day. Don't know much about baseball.
Uh the only reason I'm going to a baseball game
is to get a tan and Drinkabierready to HOWK dog?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
What is sport number one for you? Then? Like, what
is the sport you love the most to watch?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
NFL?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
NFL? Okay? Interesting?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna add Major League to my
list though, and then I'm gonna report back.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I gotta say the best football because usually people say
when I A lot of a lot of people I
have talked to say they always say rudy And at
this I'm like.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
He wasn't even that good. He got on the team for.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Like five seconds. He did one play. You know, I
don't know. It's a story of you know, I don't know.
The kid probably should have studied a little bit more,
if you look. I think later on he ran into
some problems in life, like it's not that important to
get one.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I don't know. And ever, all the Notre Dame fans
wherever they are watching is probably hate me for this,
but I just like, I enjoyed the movie, but I
was always like, eh, kind of much ado about nothing.
It's not like a story about excellence. It's about perseverance
for something that doesn't really it didn't cure cancer. Oh
and I'm just trying to troll people now, I guess,
but I didn't think Rudy was.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It's not on my Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
So yeah, it's just not on my I don't see it. Oh,
I love Rudy so much, you know, Rudy Rudy. And
then I guess the best foot my best football shit. Oh,
it was clearly Friday night Lights for me, at least,
I love Friday night Lights, which I assume you would
probably like to best what what would you have? What's
the best football movie?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well? Remember the Titans is football, but.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Oh I forgot remember the Titans. There you go that.
I was just trying to think of football movies off
because I was thinking. I was like, there's any given
Sunday Varsity Blues. I did like that very much. It
felt like a little bit of a ripoff of It's
a little bit of a ripoff of Friday Night Lights,
the book.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
That was just a little bit more of like a
trendy like, you know, you throw in like the popular
guy at the time, James Vanderbeek, you know, a little
whipped cream here and there.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that was a That was a
great movie, and I very much enjoyed it, all right,
Charlie Arnold, Which makes me so happy that I'm the
one who says it properly. Where can everyone go to
see your great stuff? Both on OutKick over at Fox
and on Fox News.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Okay, so on OutKick, I'm going to be guest hosting
Hot Mike several times throughout the month. This Friday is
the first of them three to six pm Eastern, so
I'll be filling in there. Otherwise you just catch me
here and there. I'll be on Don't At Me with
Dan Dokicic, you know, once a week. Yeah, so until
(33:31):
the show launches in August, that's the plan. Just get
me plugged in wherever I can, and then as far
as Fox goes, you don't know when I'm gonna pop up.
I'll be on Hannity a couple times this week, I'll
be on Fox Business a few times.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
So yeah, it's really just luck at the draw, run
on the TV.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
If you spot me, there you go. Everybody look for
Charlie on Arnold at Charlie on Fox, Charlie Arnold and
also OutKick, so check it out.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Charlie, thanks so much on social media, Charlie on TV.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Charlie on TV. Go find her on the social media. Charlie,
thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Look, thank you so much
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