August 2, 2022 • 37 mins
The United States kills Al-Qaeda's Ayman al-Zawahiri, but what does it mean for the future of Afghanistan and Islamic terror? We'll see. Buck says, "The fact that we needed to achieve this justice in the first place, I think certainly for the 9/11 families out there, we need to remember the price that was paid." Pelosi lands in Taiwan, world waits for China's response. The Truth about the Jon Stewart burn pits bill. Buck takes calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck in NYC. Gonna be
solo today because our good friend Play is on vacation
with the fam up in Michigan having a great time.
Checked in on him last night. He sends his regards
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to all of you. He misses being at the mic,
but the guy needs some downtime with the family, obviously
with the wife and kids, so he's having a good one.
I'm in for the next few days with all of you,
and we have so much to talk about. I mean,
first off, Pelosi touched down in Taiwan last couple of hours,
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so she did make the trip, and we are waiting
to see what the Chinese response will be. They have
certainly made a lot of noises. The Chinese Communist Party
has suggested that it would take dramatic action, even hinting
at some kind of military action in response this. I
don't think that's going to happen. I certainly pray that
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does not happen. I think it's highly highly unlikely they'll
do that, but they'll do some provocations and stamp their feet,
so to speak, make some noise diplomatically, and perhaps put
some pressure on well whomever they can in the US
and certainly US corporations to show their displeasure. We'll discuss
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more of that in a little bit. You also have
more back and forth over the Biden anti inflation bill
that won't actually bring down inflation. Joe Mansion just appeared
on Fox News before he came on, are interesting exchange
their good interview with Harris Faulkner. So we'll discuss that,
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and honestly, so much more to get to. I can't
even begin to lay it all out. Oh the baby
formula shortage. Do you know that it's still going on
and expected to continue into the fall. Stores or brands
rather of baby formula are thirty percent out of stock.
So you remember when they had that photo of the
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transport plane with the coming from Germany with the baby
formula and by administration c we're on it. They said
they didn't fix it, not even a little bit. It's
still a big problem. Well maybe they fixed it a
little bit, but not nearly enough. It's still a shortage.
And now we'll see what they actually are going to
do economically speaking, if they get their way, what the
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impact will be on the economy of more spending. But
the news that struck a lot of us one of
those things that you hear about and I think you'll
remember where you were when you heard it, especially for
those of you who served in the military. Were part
of what we used to call back in my day,
and the CIA and certainly US Mill used to call
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it the GYT the Global War on Terror. And then
that change, remember the Obama administration came out. Initially they
wanted to change the GIWAT and make it something like
overseas contingency operations to deal with violent extremism in a
limited context or something like that. It was absurd. The
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acronym was so long that nobody was going to remember it,
so they bailed out of that. But I'm in al
Zawahiri is dead, al Qaeda's number two. That is the
big news of the last twenty four hours, in addition
to the Pelosi touchdown in Taiwan, which I think is
likely to be something that people in foreign policy circles
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talk about a lot. I'm not sure it's really going
to have very much actual impact or change at all,
but we'll see. In fact, we also will see what
the impact is in Afghanistan now after Zawahiri was killed.
Just by way of quick context here, Zawahiri was bin
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Laden's number two and a direct plotter of nine to eleven,
celebrated nine to eleven afterwards, was also involved in the
bombing of the USS coal and was a terror mastermind.
He after bin Laden is the individual with the single
biggest influence on Al Qaida over the years. And we
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used a switchblade drone which managed to take him out
on the balcony of a house within walking distance of
the US Embassy compound in Afghanistan or now the former
US Embassy compound in Afghanistan. But it was in a
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well to do neighborhood, a little bit reminiscent in that
sense of the bin Laden raid in Abadabad. It was
actually named for a British Abadabad was named for a
British I believe it was General Abbott. That goes back
to the British Shafgan Wars, of which there were there
were a couple. But he was clearly known to be
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by the Taliban in Cobbol. He was in a house
that even some have reported has connections, reconnections to the
Kani network. So let me tell you what I think
about all this. On the one hand, there's the sense
of justice done. It took over twenty years, and that's
with multiple invasions in the region. That's with ongoing counter
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terrorism operations. I was an analyst and part of targeting
operations for the CIA's counter Terrorism Center for a number
of years. I was in the CIA a decade ago now.
And obviously Zawahiri has been a top target of the
US National Security complex. He had a twenty five million
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dollar bounty on his head. And we want justice to
this day for nine to eleven, the same way that
anybody had who had anything to do with the Holocaust,
you know, years and years later they were they were
hunted down and made to stand trial or take it out.
We have that feeling about anybody involved in nine to eleven.
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We will hunt them down, we will take them out.
So that's the right thing, and in that sense is
a moment to mark and say justice done. I don't
really get into the cheering and celebrating over these things.
This is solemn. This is something we must do as
a country. We have to be steely eyed about it,
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and it was the right move. But you know, this
is not the US you know, national team in some
sport winning. I mean, this is a moment of remembrance,
and there's a solemnity to what al Qaeda did to us,
the fact that we needed to achieve this justice in
the first place. I think certainly for the nine eleven
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families out there, we need to remember the price that
was paid. We need to remember the price that was
paid by our service members who went overseas, first to Afghanistan,
then to Iraq, spent decades in Afghanistan trying to prevent
essentially what has now happened. Which is that And this
is the other part of it. What is the state
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of terror support in Kabbal in Afghanistan? Right now? The
Taliban runs that country. They are the government, just like
they were in the nineteen nineties. You will remember, I'm
sure the movie Charlie Wilson's War. I also read the
book along time ago. It is a very readable, very
very enjoyable book. And the movie is well done too
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with Tom Hanks. You remember at the end of it,
the character who was played by he's the CIA officer
played by Philip Seymour Hoffman, and he talks about what
he says, and this is an Aaron Sorkin movie. I
don't know if this is even a real zen Master
tale or if this is something someone found on the
internet somewhere, but he tells the story of his end Master,
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who observed the people of his village celebrating because a
young boy is given a horse and it's a wonderful gift,
and he says, we'll see. That's what the zen Master says.
And then the boy falls off the horse. He breaks
a leg, and everyone says the horse is a curse,
and the zen Master says, we'll see. And then war
breaks out and the boy can't actually be pulled into
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the ranks of the military because of the injury he
got from riding the horse. And then everyone says, Wow,
what great luck he had, and the zen Master says,
we'll see. You get where this is going. Remember that
part of Charlie Wilson's War. It was in one of
those moments where there was a lesson to be learned.
You also heard if Memory Serves in the movie a Plane,
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very markedly on approach to I don't think it would
have been dullus would have been Reagan Airport probably given
where they were in the movie, and it was an
indicator of Okay, the Soviet Union has fallen the mujahide
in our victorious what comes next? And we all know
what comes next that leads us then years later to
nine to eleven to bin Laden, to Zawahiri and or
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as some people you'll hear on TV saying at Zoarhi.
But I like the americanized version. And here now we
have to say, how is it possible that we can
think Afghanistan is going to be anything other than an
ally to terrorists and terror sponsoring regimes in the future
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when it is run by the Hakani network. Again, those
of you who serve specifically in the Afghan in the
Afpac theater, No, they're They're as bad as it gets.
They have us blood on their hands. They are wanted terrorists.
They run the Afghan government right now. That's who's in
charge in Afghanistan. I'm in Olsowahie moved in twenty twenty
two to Kabul. That's how safe he felt. He didn't
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just go to Afghanistan. He's not in some outlying village,
you know, up in the Hindu Kush or something. He
went right into the capitol city, right into downtown and
was hanging out on the balcony. Now, yes, it is
a good tactical operation and a success in that respect
that he was taken out by these switchblade drones or
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switchblade missile rather fired from a reaper drone. And it
is right to mark this, and it is a good thing.
Here is Biden, by the way. I meant to play
this a moment ago, but I got wrapped up in
the analysis. Here he is announcing the death of I'm
in Alswaterie play Parttell's community located Zawahiri. Earlier this year,
it had moved to downtown couple to reunite with members
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of his immediate family. After carefully considering a clear and
convincing evidence of his location, I authorized a precision strike
that would remove him from the battlefield once and for all.
This mission was carefully planned rigorously minimize the risk of
harmed other civilians, and one week ago Tribute advised that
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the conditions were optimal. I gave the final approval to
go get him, and the mission was a success. None
of his family members were hurt and there were no
civilian casualists. They had him under surveillance. Reportedly they knew
where he was four months. I do not believe that
the timing of this is a coincidence, because I know
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some of you are going to be calling in or
writing in and saying, oh, come on, yes, of course,
holding this one in the back pocket, just in time
for the mid terms. Yes, I think that was a factor,
to say the least, in the timing of this. Does
anyone really think given the realities of what the Obama
administration was doing with drones and the drone strikes and
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the civilian casualties that they were racking up at the time,
which you didn't hear much about because the media was
all in the tank for Obama, as you know. But
if they had told this, we killed Swahi, we blew
up a car, four people inside dead, would anybody have
said for a moment whole? Then they couldn't have done out.
This is al Qaida's top, the top guy right now
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since the death had been law, and he has been
the most senior, the most powerful, most influential member of
al Qaida, certainly as it pertains to reputation and the
influence of the of al Qaida as a terrorist organization.
So I think they likely waited on this can never
prove that right, He says, they waited for the optimal moment. Sure,
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it is amazing technology. They usually can read about it. Now.
It's much more out there than than drone strikes used
to be basically deploying giant razor blades, and it's a
relatively new thing. Limit civilian casualties. You don't have the
same kind of shrapnel effect, and so people in the
area much less likely to be killed as collateral damage.
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But let's remember when the Biden administration was looking completely
inept and idiotic, what did they do. They ordered a
drone strike on a car for people, kill the whole family. Folks.
Remember that during the Afghanistan withdrawal. Oh, so when Biden
looks bad on TV, they'll order a drone strike that
kills a family if I think it was six or seven,
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including small children. And I know they say, oh, but
it was just a mistake. Yeah, but they didn't wait
very long to verify it. Did. They very different set
of considerations for that drone strike than for this drone
strike where they were sitting on it and went in
to deploy it for maximum effect. So back to the
Zen Master. What does this mean now? I see there
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are all these democrats saying, ha, we've finally shown al
Qaeda really al Qaida now has a Taliban that is
hosting it again in Afghanistan. What happened after bin Laden
was killed in two eleven? Just do a quick run
through in your mind. Did all the terrorists run for cover?
Were all the terrorists terrified around the world, No, of
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course not. You had the rise of Isis. You had
Abu Baker al Baghdaddy leading brigade level forces to take Mosul,
to completely overrun Iraqi forces. We've been trading for years,
to set up a caliphate, to have mass slavery, to
have you murders once again, recorded, people taken and hands
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bound out of the desert. That was all happening under
the Obama administration after bin Laden was killed. So there's
the politics of this and there's the reality of it. Yes,
it was the right thing to kill Zawahiri. It is
a very concerning development that he's in downtown Cobble. And
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what does this mean for our war on terror going forward?
Those of you who have fought it, those of you
who have been over there and seen and know you
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the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We're just talking
about the situation or with Zawahiri formerly Zawehie. Now he's
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there's not much left of him. A switchblade drone also
known as a I'm sorry, a switchblade missile. I keep
saying drone something a ninja missile. That's what they called
the media. It does have blades that come out. It's
a pretty remarkable piece of technology. Took out the former
bin Laden number two and it is a good thing.
But as I was just saying to you, it doesn't
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change the reality on the ground in Afghanistan. And I'm
wondering if any of you who are part of the
GWATT if you served overseas, either in a military or
intelligence capacity. What you think about this. There's obviously a
sense of satisfaction at the job done that many of us.
I mean, I was at CTC, we were looking for
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I'm in OLSWAHERI le see now I'm doing it. Zawahiri,
I was doing that, you know, fifteen years ago. So
didn't find him obviously. We just found him now or
they found him earlier this year, but at eight hundred
two eight two two eight eight two. For any of
my fellow GEWAT fighters or in my case writers as
an analyst, but those of your were door kickers, etc.
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Please call in let me know what your thoughts are
on this one, because I think Afghanistan is going to
it's going to a very bad place. My friends, they're
just biding their time right now figuring out who they're
going to be making unofficial alliances with and how they're
going to be training people. And Gewat's not over, it's
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the beginning, I mean, why not rather than saying the
military doesn't think it's a good idea to go, why
not call the Chinese Bluff or Telene Pound Sam When
they start elliot about the possibility of this trip, given,
as you pointed out, there's no change in policy president
for Pelosi, so let's stay drama quit. They watched the
last couple of weeks I masened this question. Yeah, I
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didn't the last couple of weeks I have seen NAMA.
I think I think your manufactor you have your question
manufacturing drama. I don't think that's a fair assessment of
a visit by a senior US official, in this case,
Nancy Pelosi to Taiwan, the most senior government official to
go there since what nineteen ninety seven. I think it
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is um and welcome back to Clay and Buck. By
the way, Pelosi has touched down in Taipei. She's in
Taiwan right now, and there's a lot going on here. Um.
First off, we think I believe that the foreign policy
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establishment and the media become almost obsessive about the optics
of things like this. Now. I did talk to you
yesterday about this because China was making a lot of
noise about how it would do extreme things, and it
seemed unlikely that they would take any major action here.
Are they gonna buzz Taiwanese airspace or violate Taiwanese airspace
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with some planes. Yeah. Probably. Are they gonna do something provocative?
You'll see headlines about this in the in the days
and weeks ahead. You know, China in in a provocative move,
decided to fill in the blank with something. But it's
not going to be in my opinion, And certainly we
all hope shot plane out of sky or open fire
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on warship or anything like that, right, that's because that
would lead to warm and that would be a terrifying circumstance,
not just for the US and for China, but for
the whole world. Right, that would be a terrible circumstance,
low probability, high impact scenario. That's what we would have
called it back in the CIA analyst days, although I'm
sure that's just the thing now you can learn about
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on Wikipedia. So they get obsessed with the optics of this,
meaning the way that it appears to people. And what
I just I have to note here is that you're
having a lot of Democrats who acted like remember when
Donald Trump wanted to meet with Kim Jong hun and
we were told there there were editorials written about how
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this could lead to nuclear war. We were hearing about
that all the time, Oh my gosh, and it's undermining
everything and didn't change the US posture toward North Korea.
Didn't work. Let's be honest, it didn't work. Didn't change
the US relationship with North Korea in any meaningful way.
But he wanted to take a shot. But you see,
that was a moment when they could all come together
and say Trump is reckless and North Korea could end
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up firing a new your missile at Hawaii over this.
Remember all that nothing happened, Trump met with him, Nothing
really changed North Korea as a problem set that really
is actually part of the China problem set. Without Chinese support,
the North Korean state would very rapidly cease to exist.
It's by far North Korea's primary trading partner, and really
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China uses North Korea visavi the international community as a
way of saying, okay, well we'll rain them in, but
you gotta do the following for us, or you got
to back off us on this issue and we'll tell
North Korea to you know, stop firing the missiles towards
Japan or something, or test firing. So there's those are
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that's an issue. There's a complexity there that we should
always take into account that the North Korea problem set
is just like Hong Kong is a China issue, Taiwan
is a China issue. North Korea as a different country,
I mean, Taiwan is de facto a different country too,
but North is officially a different country. But it is
really a part of the problem of dealing with China
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in so many ways. But when it was Trump doing
that with Kim Jong Owen, it was it's just reckless.
Now Nancy Pelosi, why is she doing this? They're all
gonna say, oh, it's standing in solidarity with Taiwan. And
I said yesterday I stand behind this. You can't let
the Chinese, the Chinese Communist Party, determine where the US
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Speaker of the House is gonna land. You can't let
them have veto power over it. So once it was
out there, she was going, she had to go, she
had to actually visit. So that was the right move.
But what really changes as a result of this? Does
anybody think, I mean, the People's Liberation Army I believe
has said publicly that they think they've even put out
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a date. I don't know. I think in four or
five years they'll be fully ready for whatever they need
to do with regard to Taiwan and any other military
obligations they may have. So does anyone believe that this
changes the US posture to Taiwan or changes Chinese calculations
in a meaningful way. I don't think it does. It's
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an act of solidarity. A lot of people that work
at think tanks and who cover foreign policy for different
media outlets will say, this is a big moment, but
you're also noticing something, aren't you. You got the Zawaheri
strike ordered, you got the Pelosi visit to Taiwan, all
happening in the same week. It's almost like it's August
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before a midterm election, and Democrats have decided they need
to figure out a way to change the narrative to
look at the bold things that Democrats are doing. Forget
about the stuff that the American people are focused in
on in their day to day lives. Because Democrats have
been abject failures on those inflation, the economy, the border crime,
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things that affect all of us. There's no narrative that
they can push about how that's gone well over the
last eighteen months. I mean they could try, they do.
So you know. That's why what is it? Paul Krugman
was saying that Biden this was funny. I even had
to say something snarky about this on Twitter, Paul Krugman
saying Nobel Laureate's Paul Krugman of the New York Times
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that Biden's economic policies have been so successful They've caused inflation.
It's so amazing. We grew so fast with so many jobs.
That's the cause of the inflation. Oh so he's so awesome.
Everything got more expensive, is what I mean. This is
how people can say this stuff out loud, is it's
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pretty amazing. But what you find is that to be
a useful tool of the Biden regime, the failing Biden regime,
requires a willingness to embarrass oneself in public. I mean,
to gleefully embarrass oneself, to self immolates one's credibility professionally,
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to just light that credibility on fires. See, I'll go
along with it. I don't even know what a recession is,
and I'm an economist. Then you get a pat on
the head from the New York Times, you get a
pat on the head from the Washington Post. People look
at you throw your little smile at cocktail parties. Next
thing in ail, you'll be announcing your pronouns. You'll really
be a member of the club. And that's the way
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it's supposed to work, right, That's how this goes. You
want to be you want to be invited to the
cool kid table at in the cafeteria at high school lunch.
Gotta be willing to make yourself look like a jackass
in public as an expert, whether it's on COVID or
the economy or whatever it is. Just gotta go along
with them. Things are great. I'm gonna look at majorcas
of Department of Homeland Security, says the Border Secure. I
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mean when you bring that up, I've done this. When
you ask Border patrol, different folks in Border patrol, what
do you think of that? I mean, I can't say
it on air. You gotta take out the bleap button
because of the exploratives like that's just crazy. That's one
way of saying it. It's absurd, it's gast lighting. But
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I think that they realize it's not going to work
well enough, which is why you have these very interestingly
timed grand gestures of national security on the world stage
and I'm not gonna say Pelosi. Once it got out
that she was going, now, why she decide to go
and all that. But once she said she'd go, and
she had to go right, because to back down would
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embolden a Chinese Communist party that already has so much
leverage against US corporations and in this country in ways
that we could do whole shows just talking about. And
then on the issue of Zawahiri, Yeah, you gotta take
that guy out. Why did they wait for months and
months and months to take him out? Well, I think
that's an interesting question. They'll say it's because they had
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to verify and find the exact right conditions. I find
that hard to believe. So the timing here, it's not
quite an October surprise, but some August surprise is thrown
into the mix. What motivates Democrats more than anything else.
We know one thing about them. They do not really
believe in foreign enemies external enemies, because the primary enemy
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to Democrats is the domestic political opposition. So most of
their decision making is always around that issue. It's always
around finding a way to secure their power against their
Republican rivals, and that pushes more of their external and
foreign policy and national security decision making than anything else.
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How's this gonna look on CNN? Now, I'm not saying
that the only consideration. I'm saying that is a primary
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Buck in NYC. And I want to add something to
the mix here. The storyline over the weekend. I didn't
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get to talk to you about this one where John
Stewart went on these absolutely profane rants, calling the GOP
all kinds of names around a bill in the Senate
that had to do with health benefits for veterans affected
by burn pits. I remember bird pits when I was
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an Afghanistan. People were concerned about them then, and that
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debt of honor to make sure that they are taken
care of for any of their service related health issues
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and to provide them with healthcare as as part of
the deal that we have for them serving their country.
That I'll say, John Stewart, who I think is well
intentioned on this, but a lot of people who are
well intentioned and has been in the fight a long
time I know, and for nine to eleven nine to
eleven first responders has been pushing for them, and they
have been getting the funding year and year out, and
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it has been bipartisan, but he has been pushing for it.
But this notion that the Democrats are the heroes here
once again talking about narratives. Our friend Noah Rothman, you
remember him from a week or two ago we had
him on to talk about his new book, The Very
Sharp Guy, and he goes into the Belly of the
Beast over at MSNBC. As a conservative, he writes this
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about this Senate bill, the effort to invoke cloture on
the Honoring Our Packed Act, when down to defeat last
week after it had already passed the US Senate in
June with significant Republican support. Why this is on commentary
dot org. By the way, the Senate had to take
a second vote on the measure after the Senate introduced
phase implementation rules and up the number of staff to
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process new claims, but that required new revenue, and since
all such bills must originate in the House, the process
had to begin anew in the interm However, the Washington
Post reported Senator to Me worked behind the scenes to
inform his colleagues about a major flaw in the bill.
The Pennsylvania Senator's long held objection to the legislation rests
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on the fact that about four hundred billion dollars in
spending over the next ten years has been deemed non discretionary,
meaning that it doesn't need to be deliberately appropriated by
Congress and will be spent no matter what. But that
spending isn't dedicated to veterans affairs, It isn't dedicated to anything.
In fact, it is a blank check that Toomey believes
will be made out to Democrat priorities or favored constituencies
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without a public debate over the value of that spending.
End quote well written here by Noah and Pat Toomey said,
it's about Congress hiding behind an important veteran care bill
a massive unrelated spending binge. I'm bringing this up because
this is who you're dealing with. John Stewart goes out
there cursing and spittle rage at everybody who doesn't go
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along with the bill. You don't care about veterans. Really,
Republican senators don't care about veterans. That's a new one.
I'm compared to Democrats senators. It's a new one. And
when you actually look at this, Democrats are so shameless
in the Senate that they would use This is the Hey,
we're gonna we're gonna have a bill that's that's meant for,
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you know, to provide housing for you know, for people
or you know, this is something that everybody could agree.
Veterans the best possible issue. I was gonna say housing
free people who lost their homes after uh, you know,
a terrorist attack. Put that aside for a second. I mean,
this is as good of a cause as you can
find in the government. And Republicans are all on board
with this. Yeah, of course, health care for veterans affected
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by burn pits. Of course we should do this. And
they all say this, of course we should do this.
But what do Democrats do. Well, there's a lot of
emotion behind this. So let's try to slip in a
mechanism to allow hundreds of billions of dollars of spending
on whatever we want. And the moment that we get
any pushback, we say, you don't care about veterans, A
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shameless baden switch shameless. That's who they are, folks, that's
who you're dealing with. Notice once again the narrative right
now in preparation for the mid terms. Oh yes, Republicans
don't care about the veterans. Sure, that's what they're trying.
We've got a lot of veterans who are on the
line right now. I want to weigh in on this.
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We have Steve in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Steve, you were an
Intel analyst in Afghanistan. Thanks for calling in. Yes, that's right.
I was with US Navy. Hey, I just want to
pick up on your point with Zawahiri and Hakani. Hakani
and I was there in twenty seventeen. As you said
they were bad guys, then they're still bad guys. It
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is very disturbing the connection between the Afghan government and
a Khannie network. A Khannie was on our I mean,
if they did anything in country, it got our attention
right away because they were always doing bad stuff. So
any interpretation of the Afghan government being anything other than
the ligne with the connection connection to Hakani is misplaced.
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These are bad guys and we have to see it
that way. And this is very disturbing that he was
there out in the open. Essentially, we're just exhausted and
dealing with Afghanistan, so we're essentially letting a terrorist enemy refit,
re equip and figure out their plans. I think that's
where we are unfortunately, Steve. Thank you for your service,
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and thank you for calling in. Josh Fayetteville, North Carolina,
former marine who fought in the GWAT Hey, Josh, Hey Clay,
thanks a lot, man, I'm buck, but plays great to
go ahead, my man, Yeah, it was. I was over
there in Iraq and we had just left after looking
for Saddam when we went to Dubai for some training,
and over the radio while we were out there, they
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talked about catching him and how great it felt with
may Light Armored Recon Company going all right, that's great,
but we all knew even with this guy and whatnot,
it's it's by cockroaches with a deep bench. As soon
as you get the main guy, you know, about a
month later somebody else steps up. But it is nice
to know that they never sleep well again after that,
because once their name is known they know it's just
a matter of time before they catch a missile. Yeah,
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but if they got twenty years to do it, they
can do a lot of damage. As we know. This
is part of the part of the issue. I think
as well, how long this effort to get justice really
took here, Josh, Thanks, thanks for your service, Thank you
for calling in. We got a lot going on here,
so we'll come back here to second we were just
talking about. I was talking about the Senate bill, about
burn Pitts situational, the mansion bill. He just appeared on
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Fox before I came on the air, talk to Harris Faulkner.
Is it going to create inflation? Is it going to
raise taxes? A lot to discuss there, plus a whole
lot of guests they're going to be joining us coming
up here. We have Glenn Jacobs of Knox County, Tennessee's
the mayor there, and Attorney General Mark Burnovich Arizona Senate candidate.
That's all coming up. Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton on
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the front lines. Three
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck in NYC. Gonna be
solo today because our good friend Play is on vacation
with the fam up in Michigan having a great time.
Checked in on him last night. He sends his regards
(00:21):
to all of you. He misses being at the mic,
but the guy needs some downtime with the family, obviously
with the wife and kids, so he's having a good one.
I'm in for the next few days with all of you,
and we have so much to talk about. I mean,
first off, Pelosi touched down in Taiwan last couple of hours,
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so she did make the trip, and we are waiting
to see what the Chinese response will be. They have
certainly made a lot of noises. The Chinese Communist Party
has suggested that it would take dramatic action, even hinting
at some kind of military action in response this. I
don't think that's going to happen. I certainly pray that
(01:04):
does not happen. I think it's highly highly unlikely they'll
do that, but they'll do some provocations and stamp their feet,
so to speak, make some noise diplomatically, and perhaps put
some pressure on well whomever they can in the US
and certainly US corporations to show their displeasure. We'll discuss
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more of that in a little bit. You also have
more back and forth over the Biden anti inflation bill
that won't actually bring down inflation. Joe Mansion just appeared
on Fox News before he came on, are interesting exchange
their good interview with Harris Faulkner. So we'll discuss that,
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and honestly, so much more to get to. I can't
even begin to lay it all out. Oh the baby
formula shortage. Do you know that it's still going on
and expected to continue into the fall. Stores or brands
rather of baby formula are thirty percent out of stock.
So you remember when they had that photo of the
(02:10):
transport plane with the coming from Germany with the baby
formula and by administration c we're on it. They said
they didn't fix it, not even a little bit. It's
still a big problem. Well maybe they fixed it a
little bit, but not nearly enough. It's still a shortage.
And now we'll see what they actually are going to
do economically speaking, if they get their way, what the
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impact will be on the economy of more spending. But
the news that struck a lot of us one of
those things that you hear about and I think you'll
remember where you were when you heard it, especially for
those of you who served in the military. Were part
of what we used to call back in my day,
and the CIA and certainly US Mill used to call
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it the GYT the Global War on Terror. And then
that change, remember the Obama administration came out. Initially they
wanted to change the GIWAT and make it something like
overseas contingency operations to deal with violent extremism in a
limited context or something like that. It was absurd. The
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acronym was so long that nobody was going to remember it,
so they bailed out of that. But I'm in al
Zawahiri is dead, al Qaeda's number two. That is the
big news of the last twenty four hours, in addition
to the Pelosi touchdown in Taiwan, which I think is
likely to be something that people in foreign policy circles
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talk about a lot. I'm not sure it's really going
to have very much actual impact or change at all,
but we'll see. In fact, we also will see what
the impact is in Afghanistan now after Zawahiri was killed.
Just by way of quick context here, Zawahiri was bin
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Laden's number two and a direct plotter of nine to eleven,
celebrated nine to eleven afterwards, was also involved in the
bombing of the USS coal and was a terror mastermind.
He after bin Laden is the individual with the single
biggest influence on Al Qaida over the years. And we
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used a switchblade drone which managed to take him out
on the balcony of a house within walking distance of
the US Embassy compound in Afghanistan or now the former
US Embassy compound in Afghanistan. But it was in a
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well to do neighborhood, a little bit reminiscent in that
sense of the bin Laden raid in Abadabad. It was
actually named for a British Abadabad was named for a
British I believe it was General Abbott. That goes back
to the British Shafgan Wars, of which there were there
were a couple. But he was clearly known to be
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by the Taliban in Cobbol. He was in a house
that even some have reported has connections, reconnections to the
Kani network. So let me tell you what I think
about all this. On the one hand, there's the sense
of justice done. It took over twenty years, and that's
with multiple invasions in the region. That's with ongoing counter
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terrorism operations. I was an analyst and part of targeting
operations for the CIA's counter Terrorism Center for a number
of years. I was in the CIA a decade ago now.
And obviously Zawahiri has been a top target of the
US National Security complex. He had a twenty five million
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dollar bounty on his head. And we want justice to
this day for nine to eleven, the same way that
anybody had who had anything to do with the Holocaust,
you know, years and years later they were they were
hunted down and made to stand trial or take it out.
We have that feeling about anybody involved in nine to eleven.
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We will hunt them down, we will take them out.
So that's the right thing, and in that sense is
a moment to mark and say justice done. I don't
really get into the cheering and celebrating over these things.
This is solemn. This is something we must do as
a country. We have to be steely eyed about it,
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and it was the right move. But you know, this
is not the US you know, national team in some
sport winning. I mean, this is a moment of remembrance,
and there's a solemnity to what al Qaeda did to us,
the fact that we needed to achieve this justice in
the first place. I think certainly for the nine eleven
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families out there, we need to remember the price that
was paid. We need to remember the price that was
paid by our service members who went overseas, first to Afghanistan,
then to Iraq, spent decades in Afghanistan trying to prevent
essentially what has now happened. Which is that And this
is the other part of it. What is the state
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of terror support in Kabbal in Afghanistan? Right now? The
Taliban runs that country. They are the government, just like
they were in the nineteen nineties. You will remember, I'm
sure the movie Charlie Wilson's War. I also read the
book along time ago. It is a very readable, very
very enjoyable book. And the movie is well done too
(07:38):
with Tom Hanks. You remember at the end of it,
the character who was played by he's the CIA officer
played by Philip Seymour Hoffman, and he talks about what
he says, and this is an Aaron Sorkin movie. I
don't know if this is even a real zen Master
tale or if this is something someone found on the
internet somewhere, but he tells the story of his end Master,
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who observed the people of his village celebrating because a
young boy is given a horse and it's a wonderful gift,
and he says, we'll see. That's what the zen Master says.
And then the boy falls off the horse. He breaks
a leg, and everyone says the horse is a curse,
and the zen Master says, we'll see. And then war
breaks out and the boy can't actually be pulled into
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the ranks of the military because of the injury he
got from riding the horse. And then everyone says, Wow,
what great luck he had, and the zen Master says,
we'll see. You get where this is going. Remember that
part of Charlie Wilson's War. It was in one of
those moments where there was a lesson to be learned.
You also heard if Memory Serves in the movie a Plane,
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very markedly on approach to I don't think it would
have been dullus would have been Reagan Airport probably given
where they were in the movie, and it was an
indicator of Okay, the Soviet Union has fallen the mujahide
in our victorious what comes next? And we all know
what comes next that leads us then years later to
nine to eleven to bin Laden, to Zawahiri and or
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as some people you'll hear on TV saying at Zoarhi.
But I like the americanized version. And here now we
have to say, how is it possible that we can
think Afghanistan is going to be anything other than an
ally to terrorists and terror sponsoring regimes in the future
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when it is run by the Hakani network. Again, those
of you who serve specifically in the Afghan in the
Afpac theater, No, they're They're as bad as it gets.
They have us blood on their hands. They are wanted terrorists.
They run the Afghan government right now. That's who's in
charge in Afghanistan. I'm in Olsowahie moved in twenty twenty
two to Kabul. That's how safe he felt. He didn't
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just go to Afghanistan. He's not in some outlying village,
you know, up in the Hindu Kush or something. He
went right into the capitol city, right into downtown and
was hanging out on the balcony. Now, yes, it is
a good tactical operation and a success in that respect
that he was taken out by these switchblade drones or
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switchblade missile rather fired from a reaper drone. And it
is right to mark this, and it is a good thing.
Here is Biden, by the way. I meant to play
this a moment ago, but I got wrapped up in
the analysis. Here he is announcing the death of I'm
in Alswaterie play Parttell's community located Zawahiri. Earlier this year,
it had moved to downtown couple to reunite with members
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of his immediate family. After carefully considering a clear and
convincing evidence of his location, I authorized a precision strike
that would remove him from the battlefield once and for all.
This mission was carefully planned rigorously minimize the risk of
harmed other civilians, and one week ago Tribute advised that
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the conditions were optimal. I gave the final approval to
go get him, and the mission was a success. None
of his family members were hurt and there were no
civilian casualists. They had him under surveillance. Reportedly they knew
where he was four months. I do not believe that
the timing of this is a coincidence, because I know
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some of you are going to be calling in or
writing in and saying, oh, come on, yes, of course,
holding this one in the back pocket, just in time
for the mid terms. Yes, I think that was a factor,
to say the least, in the timing of this. Does
anyone really think given the realities of what the Obama
administration was doing with drones and the drone strikes and
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the civilian casualties that they were racking up at the time,
which you didn't hear much about because the media was
all in the tank for Obama, as you know. But
if they had told this, we killed Swahi, we blew
up a car, four people inside dead, would anybody have
said for a moment whole? Then they couldn't have done out.
This is al Qaida's top, the top guy right now
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since the death had been law, and he has been
the most senior, the most powerful, most influential member of
al Qaida, certainly as it pertains to reputation and the
influence of the of al Qaida as a terrorist organization.
So I think they likely waited on this can never
prove that right, He says, they waited for the optimal moment. Sure,
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it is amazing technology. They usually can read about it. Now.
It's much more out there than than drone strikes used
to be basically deploying giant razor blades, and it's a
relatively new thing. Limit civilian casualties. You don't have the
same kind of shrapnel effect, and so people in the
area much less likely to be killed as collateral damage.
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But let's remember when the Biden administration was looking completely
inept and idiotic, what did they do. They ordered a
drone strike on a car for people, kill the whole family. Folks.
Remember that during the Afghanistan withdrawal. Oh, so when Biden
looks bad on TV, they'll order a drone strike that
kills a family if I think it was six or seven,
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including small children. And I know they say, oh, but
it was just a mistake. Yeah, but they didn't wait
very long to verify it. Did. They very different set
of considerations for that drone strike than for this drone
strike where they were sitting on it and went in
to deploy it for maximum effect. So back to the
Zen Master. What does this mean now? I see there
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are all these democrats saying, ha, we've finally shown al
Qaeda really al Qaida now has a Taliban that is
hosting it again in Afghanistan. What happened after bin Laden
was killed in two eleven? Just do a quick run
through in your mind. Did all the terrorists run for cover?
Were all the terrorists terrified around the world, No, of
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course not. You had the rise of Isis. You had
Abu Baker al Baghdaddy leading brigade level forces to take Mosul,
to completely overrun Iraqi forces. We've been trading for years,
to set up a caliphate, to have mass slavery, to
have you murders once again, recorded, people taken and hands
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bound out of the desert. That was all happening under
the Obama administration after bin Laden was killed. So there's
the politics of this and there's the reality of it. Yes,
it was the right thing to kill Zawahiri. It is
a very concerning development that he's in downtown Cobble. And
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what does this mean for our war on terror going forward?
Those of you who have fought it, those of you
who have been over there and seen and know you
know what I'm gonna say. We'll see all right, big
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the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We're just talking
about the situation or with Zawahiri formerly Zawehie. Now he's
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there's not much left of him. A switchblade drone also
known as a I'm sorry, a switchblade missile. I keep
saying drone something a ninja missile. That's what they called
the media. It does have blades that come out. It's
a pretty remarkable piece of technology. Took out the former
bin Laden number two and it is a good thing.
But as I was just saying to you, it doesn't
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change the reality on the ground in Afghanistan. And I'm
wondering if any of you who are part of the
GWATT if you served overseas, either in a military or
intelligence capacity. What you think about this. There's obviously a
sense of satisfaction at the job done that many of us.
I mean, I was at CTC, we were looking for
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I'm in OLSWAHERI le see now I'm doing it. Zawahiri,
I was doing that, you know, fifteen years ago. So
didn't find him obviously. We just found him now or
they found him earlier this year, but at eight hundred
two eight two two eight eight two. For any of
my fellow GEWAT fighters or in my case writers as
an analyst, but those of your were door kickers, etc.
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Please call in let me know what your thoughts are
on this one, because I think Afghanistan is going to
it's going to a very bad place. My friends, they're
just biding their time right now figuring out who they're
going to be making unofficial alliances with and how they're
going to be training people. And Gewat's not over, it's
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the beginning, I mean, why not rather than saying the
military doesn't think it's a good idea to go, why
not call the Chinese Bluff or Telene Pound Sam When
they start elliot about the possibility of this trip, given,
as you pointed out, there's no change in policy president
for Pelosi, so let's stay drama quit. They watched the
last couple of weeks I masened this question. Yeah, I
(19:22):
didn't the last couple of weeks I have seen NAMA.
I think I think your manufactor you have your question
manufacturing drama. I don't think that's a fair assessment of
a visit by a senior US official, in this case,
Nancy Pelosi to Taiwan, the most senior government official to
go there since what nineteen ninety seven. I think it
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is um and welcome back to Clay and Buck. By
the way, Pelosi has touched down in Taipei. She's in
Taiwan right now, and there's a lot going on here. Um.
First off, we think I believe that the foreign policy
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establishment and the media become almost obsessive about the optics
of things like this. Now. I did talk to you
yesterday about this because China was making a lot of
noise about how it would do extreme things, and it
seemed unlikely that they would take any major action here.
Are they gonna buzz Taiwanese airspace or violate Taiwanese airspace
(20:30):
with some planes. Yeah. Probably. Are they gonna do something provocative?
You'll see headlines about this in the in the days
and weeks ahead. You know, China in in a provocative move,
decided to fill in the blank with something. But it's
not going to be in my opinion, And certainly we
all hope shot plane out of sky or open fire
(20:51):
on warship or anything like that, right, that's because that
would lead to warm and that would be a terrifying circumstance,
not just for the US and for China, but for
the whole world. Right, that would be a terrible circumstance,
low probability, high impact scenario. That's what we would have
called it back in the CIA analyst days, although I'm
sure that's just the thing now you can learn about
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on Wikipedia. So they get obsessed with the optics of this,
meaning the way that it appears to people. And what
I just I have to note here is that you're
having a lot of Democrats who acted like remember when
Donald Trump wanted to meet with Kim Jong hun and
we were told there there were editorials written about how
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this could lead to nuclear war. We were hearing about
that all the time, Oh my gosh, and it's undermining
everything and didn't change the US posture toward North Korea.
Didn't work. Let's be honest, it didn't work. Didn't change
the US relationship with North Korea in any meaningful way.
But he wanted to take a shot. But you see,
that was a moment when they could all come together
and say Trump is reckless and North Korea could end
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up firing a new your missile at Hawaii over this.
Remember all that nothing happened, Trump met with him, Nothing
really changed North Korea as a problem set that really
is actually part of the China problem set. Without Chinese support,
the North Korean state would very rapidly cease to exist.
It's by far North Korea's primary trading partner, and really
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China uses North Korea visavi the international community as a
way of saying, okay, well we'll rain them in, but
you gotta do the following for us, or you got
to back off us on this issue and we'll tell
North Korea to you know, stop firing the missiles towards
Japan or something, or test firing. So there's those are
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that's an issue. There's a complexity there that we should
always take into account that the North Korea problem set
is just like Hong Kong is a China issue, Taiwan
is a China issue. North Korea as a different country,
I mean, Taiwan is de facto a different country too,
but North is officially a different country. But it is
really a part of the problem of dealing with China
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in so many ways. But when it was Trump doing
that with Kim Jong Owen, it was it's just reckless.
Now Nancy Pelosi, why is she doing this? They're all
gonna say, oh, it's standing in solidarity with Taiwan. And
I said yesterday I stand behind this. You can't let
the Chinese, the Chinese Communist Party, determine where the US
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Speaker of the House is gonna land. You can't let
them have veto power over it. So once it was
out there, she was going, she had to go, she
had to actually visit. So that was the right move.
But what really changes as a result of this? Does
anybody think, I mean, the People's Liberation Army I believe
has said publicly that they think they've even put out
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a date. I don't know. I think in four or
five years they'll be fully ready for whatever they need
to do with regard to Taiwan and any other military
obligations they may have. So does anyone believe that this
changes the US posture to Taiwan or changes Chinese calculations
in a meaningful way. I don't think it does. It's
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an act of solidarity. A lot of people that work
at think tanks and who cover foreign policy for different
media outlets will say, this is a big moment, but
you're also noticing something, aren't you. You got the Zawaheri
strike ordered, you got the Pelosi visit to Taiwan, all
happening in the same week. It's almost like it's August
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before a midterm election, and Democrats have decided they need
to figure out a way to change the narrative to
look at the bold things that Democrats are doing. Forget
about the stuff that the American people are focused in
on in their day to day lives. Because Democrats have
been abject failures on those inflation, the economy, the border crime,
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things that affect all of us. There's no narrative that
they can push about how that's gone well over the
last eighteen months. I mean they could try, they do.
So you know. That's why what is it? Paul Krugman
was saying that Biden this was funny. I even had
to say something snarky about this on Twitter, Paul Krugman
saying Nobel Laureate's Paul Krugman of the New York Times
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that Biden's economic policies have been so successful They've caused inflation.
It's so amazing. We grew so fast with so many jobs.
That's the cause of the inflation. Oh so he's so awesome.
Everything got more expensive, is what I mean. This is
how people can say this stuff out loud, is it's
(25:37):
pretty amazing. But what you find is that to be
a useful tool of the Biden regime, the failing Biden regime,
requires a willingness to embarrass oneself in public. I mean,
to gleefully embarrass oneself, to self immolates one's credibility professionally,
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to just light that credibility on fires. See, I'll go
along with it. I don't even know what a recession is,
and I'm an economist. Then you get a pat on
the head from the New York Times, you get a
pat on the head from the Washington Post. People look
at you throw your little smile at cocktail parties. Next
thing in ail, you'll be announcing your pronouns. You'll really
be a member of the club. And that's the way
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it's supposed to work, right, That's how this goes. You
want to be you want to be invited to the
cool kid table at in the cafeteria at high school lunch.
Gotta be willing to make yourself look like a jackass
in public as an expert, whether it's on COVID or
the economy or whatever it is. Just gotta go along
with them. Things are great. I'm gonna look at majorcas
of Department of Homeland Security, says the Border Secure. I
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mean when you bring that up, I've done this. When
you ask Border patrol, different folks in Border patrol, what
do you think of that? I mean, I can't say
it on air. You gotta take out the bleap button
because of the exploratives like that's just crazy. That's one
way of saying it. It's absurd, it's gast lighting. But
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I think that they realize it's not going to work
well enough, which is why you have these very interestingly
timed grand gestures of national security on the world stage
and I'm not gonna say Pelosi. Once it got out
that she was going, now, why she decide to go
and all that. But once she said she'd go, and
she had to go right, because to back down would
(27:27):
embolden a Chinese Communist party that already has so much
leverage against US corporations and in this country in ways
that we could do whole shows just talking about. And
then on the issue of Zawahiri, Yeah, you gotta take
that guy out. Why did they wait for months and
months and months to take him out? Well, I think
that's an interesting question. They'll say it's because they had
(27:50):
to verify and find the exact right conditions. I find
that hard to believe. So the timing here, it's not
quite an October surprise, but some August surprise is thrown
into the mix. What motivates Democrats more than anything else.
We know one thing about them. They do not really
believe in foreign enemies external enemies, because the primary enemy
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to Democrats is the domestic political opposition. So most of
their decision making is always around that issue. It's always
around finding a way to secure their power against their
Republican rivals, and that pushes more of their external and
foreign policy and national security decision making than anything else.
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How's this gonna look on CNN? Now, I'm not saying
that the only consideration. I'm saying that is a primary
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Buck in NYC. And I want to add something to
the mix here. The storyline over the weekend. I didn't
(29:58):
get to talk to you about this one where John
Stewart went on these absolutely profane rants, calling the GOP
all kinds of names around a bill in the Senate
that had to do with health benefits for veterans affected
by burn pits. I remember bird pits when I was
(30:19):
an Afghanistan. People were concerned about them then, and that
was fifteen years ago. It was not a good idea
to be subjecting people to this serious health serious health
consequences from it. And we owe our our veterans a
debt of honor to make sure that they are taken
care of for any of their service related health issues
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and to provide them with healthcare as as part of
the deal that we have for them serving their country.
That I'll say, John Stewart, who I think is well
intentioned on this, but a lot of people who are
well intentioned and has been in the fight a long
time I know, and for nine to eleven nine to
eleven first responders has been pushing for them, and they
have been getting the funding year and year out, and
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it has been bipartisan, but he has been pushing for it.
But this notion that the Democrats are the heroes here
once again talking about narratives. Our friend Noah Rothman, you
remember him from a week or two ago we had
him on to talk about his new book, The Very
Sharp Guy, and he goes into the Belly of the
Beast over at MSNBC. As a conservative, he writes this
(31:24):
about this Senate bill, the effort to invoke cloture on
the Honoring Our Packed Act, when down to defeat last
week after it had already passed the US Senate in
June with significant Republican support. Why this is on commentary
dot org. By the way, the Senate had to take
a second vote on the measure after the Senate introduced
phase implementation rules and up the number of staff to
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process new claims, but that required new revenue, and since
all such bills must originate in the House, the process
had to begin anew in the interm However, the Washington
Post reported Senator to Me worked behind the scenes to
inform his colleagues about a major flaw in the bill.
The Pennsylvania Senator's long held objection to the legislation rests
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on the fact that about four hundred billion dollars in
spending over the next ten years has been deemed non discretionary,
meaning that it doesn't need to be deliberately appropriated by
Congress and will be spent no matter what. But that
spending isn't dedicated to veterans affairs, It isn't dedicated to anything.
In fact, it is a blank check that Toomey believes
will be made out to Democrat priorities or favored constituencies
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without a public debate over the value of that spending.
End quote well written here by Noah and Pat Toomey said,
it's about Congress hiding behind an important veteran care bill
a massive unrelated spending binge. I'm bringing this up because
this is who you're dealing with. John Stewart goes out
there cursing and spittle rage at everybody who doesn't go
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along with the bill. You don't care about veterans. Really,
Republican senators don't care about veterans. That's a new one.
I'm compared to Democrats senators. It's a new one. And
when you actually look at this, Democrats are so shameless
in the Senate that they would use This is the Hey,
we're gonna we're gonna have a bill that's that's meant for,
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you know, to provide housing for you know, for people
or you know, this is something that everybody could agree.
Veterans the best possible issue. I was gonna say housing
free people who lost their homes after uh, you know,
a terrorist attack. Put that aside for a second. I mean,
this is as good of a cause as you can
find in the government. And Republicans are all on board
with this. Yeah, of course, health care for veterans affected
(33:34):
by burn pits. Of course we should do this. And
they all say this, of course we should do this.
But what do Democrats do. Well, there's a lot of
emotion behind this. So let's try to slip in a
mechanism to allow hundreds of billions of dollars of spending
on whatever we want. And the moment that we get
any pushback, we say, you don't care about veterans, A
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shameless baden switch shameless. That's who they are, folks, that's
who you're dealing with. Notice once again the narrative right
now in preparation for the mid terms. Oh yes, Republicans
don't care about the veterans. Sure, that's what they're trying.
We've got a lot of veterans who are on the
line right now. I want to weigh in on this.
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We have Steve in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Steve, you were an
Intel analyst in Afghanistan. Thanks for calling in. Yes, that's right.
I was with US Navy. Hey, I just want to
pick up on your point with Zawahiri and Hakani. Hakani
and I was there in twenty seventeen. As you said
they were bad guys, then they're still bad guys. It
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is very disturbing the connection between the Afghan government and
a Khannie network. A Khannie was on our I mean,
if they did anything in country, it got our attention
right away because they were always doing bad stuff. So
any interpretation of the Afghan government being anything other than
the ligne with the connection connection to Hakani is misplaced.
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These are bad guys and we have to see it
that way. And this is very disturbing that he was
there out in the open. Essentially, we're just exhausted and
dealing with Afghanistan, so we're essentially letting a terrorist enemy refit,
re equip and figure out their plans. I think that's
where we are unfortunately, Steve. Thank you for your service,
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and thank you for calling in. Josh Fayetteville, North Carolina,
former marine who fought in the GWAT Hey, Josh, Hey Clay,
thanks a lot, man, I'm buck, but plays great to
go ahead, my man, Yeah, it was. I was over
there in Iraq and we had just left after looking
for Saddam when we went to Dubai for some training,
and over the radio while we were out there, they
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talked about catching him and how great it felt with
may Light Armored Recon Company going all right, that's great,
but we all knew even with this guy and whatnot,
it's it's by cockroaches with a deep bench. As soon
as you get the main guy, you know, about a
month later somebody else steps up. But it is nice
to know that they never sleep well again after that,
because once their name is known they know it's just
a matter of time before they catch a missile. Yeah,
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but if they got twenty years to do it, they
can do a lot of damage. As we know. This
is part of the part of the issue. I think
as well, how long this effort to get justice really
took here, Josh, Thanks, thanks for your service, Thank you
for calling in. We got a lot going on here,
so we'll come back here to second we were just
talking about. I was talking about the Senate bill, about
burn Pitts situational, the mansion bill. He just appeared on
(36:27):
Fox before I came on the air, talk to Harris Faulkner.
Is it going to create inflation? Is it going to
raise taxes? A lot to discuss there, plus a whole
lot of guests they're going to be joining us coming
up here. We have Glenn Jacobs of Knox County, Tennessee's
the mayor there, and Attorney General Mark Burnovich Arizona Senate candidate.
That's all coming up. Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton on
(36:54):
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