September 20, 2022 • 36 mins
The Atlantic writes a crazy story arguing for the end of the separation of men's and women's sports. Buck says, "Destroying women's sports. That is the new feminism for the left." Clay says it means many women will not compete. The story rocking the chess world. Christine Drazan, GOP candidate for governor of Oregon, joins Clay and Buck to talk about how she can win in a deep blue state because Oregonians are fed up with insane liberal policies. We're in a recession and it's just getting started.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
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think you will enjoy it. So I had not seen
this until Buck sent me this story and or discussed
it with me, and I tracked it down. I don't
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read a lot of The Atlantic. It's probably an indictment
of me. I think I get enough of the Washington
Post in the New York Times without needing to subscribe
to the Atlantic, but someone named Maggie Mertons wrote a
story that is one of the dumbest stories I've ever
seen in the world of athletics and the coming denial
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of biologies stuff. Yeah. Look, I've had a lot of
dumb opinions over the years in the world of sports,
as many of you well know, and may continue to
have a lot of dumb opinions on a variety of
different things. I've never had an opinion this dumb. The
argument is separating sports by sex doesn't make sense. That's
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the headline of the Atlantic article. Those school sports are
typically sex segregated. A new generation of kids isn't to
content to compete within traditional structures. This is, let me
be clear, the natural evolution of the argument that men
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can compete against women, the whole Leah Sam madness that
you had a dude who decided to become a woman
and then became the greatest women's swimmer of the year
in college athletics. The natural outgrowth of transgender athletes is
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left wingers are going to say, we just need to
have a unisex category. Why are we even separating men's
and women's athletes, which is exactly what the Athletic the
Atlantic is arguing here. And the reason buck is because
women are not big, as big, as strong, and as
fast as men. But this is wild. In the article
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just now trot out things that are one hundred percent
not true and in fact are anti science. And this
has become a big deal. Biology isn't real too many
left wingers anymore. And it says here school sports are
typically sex segregated, and decades of research have sown sex
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is far more complex than we may think, and those
sex differences in sports show advantages for men. Researchers today
still don't know how much of this to attribute to
biological differences versus the lack of support provided to women
athletes to reach their highest potential. Let me be clear here.
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There is no Chicken America who is going to be
faster than Usain Bolt. There is no one in the
history of women's athletics who is going to be as
good of a quarterback as Tom Brady. All right, this
is not biological. You don't even have to go to
the extremes of who the greatest male athletes are in
their sports. I mean, you can look at what ends
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up happening. I mean, for example, I saw Serena Williams,
who many argue is the greatest female tennis player of
all times and is dominant in a way that you've
never seen somebody else in that sport be dominant. Right,
there is a woman who won whose last name is Court.
I believe it's Margaret Court who won more majors that
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it was like fifty years still why she's Australian, Yeah,
but it was why it was a long time ago.
The sport was very different speed then, very different, very
different game in a lot of ways. But Serena Williams
as somebody who's I've played enough tennis to tell you
that Serena Williams would lose to certainly the top two
hundred men on the tour and would probably even lose
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to a top d one men's NC double a tennis player, Okay,
I just to give and she's the greatest of all
times would argue in the sport as a as a woman.
A couple of years ago, John McEnroe got in trouble
because he said Serena wouldn't be one of the best
seven hundred men's players in the one hundred percent true.
I can't believe you got in trouble if it's not
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even close, by the way, and yeah, because he said
Serena was very talented, but she was the best women's
players because he was getting an interview and the interviewer said,
why wouldn't you say she's the greatest tennis player of
all time? And he said, because she's not. There are
seven hundred men right now who are way better than
Serena Williams. And I talked to a bunch of pro
athletes in tennis after that, and they said, Serena Williams
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an incredible talent, she wouldn't be on any decent college
men's tennis team. She couldn't make them correct. So it's
not even that she's not in the top seven hundred.
She's not in the top ten thousand best men's tennis
players in the world, according to guys who were way
more talented in tennis than me. I mean, the women's
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soccer US NOW national team played, was it the under
sixteen or the It was the under sixteen team, so
fourteen eighteen, I think it was fifteen and under in Dallas.
The best fifteen and under boys in Dallas. So kids
who are I mean, who are you know? Years away
from reaching full physical maturity, and they blew out the
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women's national team like eight to nothing, which in soccer terms,
or was it six to nothing? It was they beat
them comfortably. I don't remember the exact score. But the
point you're making, which is a really good one, is
that high school boys in one city in America, I
think it was like five to two as the women
were training the US women's national team, which is the
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best women's team in the world, as they were training,
they scrimmaged against these boys, and the boys beat them
fifteen and from Dallas, Texas. Another good stat for you
is every high school champion in the state of Texas
in track and field was fast at every category, every division.
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Was faster than the fastest woman in the history of
the world. I'm sorry it was it was five to two,
by the way I looked at it, five to two,
which is still a bunch of churches. Which you know,
you and I both played high school soccer. If you
lost five to two to another team, you went home
feeling bad about yourself. You weren't close to winning, right, um,
And yes, so they wiped them and again that's not
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the best fifteen year old boys. Was I write about
it being fifteen and under. It wasn't the best fifteen
year old boys in the United States. It was the
best fifteen year old boys in Dallas, Texas, one city
fifteen year old boys trounced the US women's team. So
here's where we are with this whole gender in sports situation.
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The the left has reached the they've reached the terminus year.
They've reached the full ends of where this all leads,
which five years ago was oh no, it's not that
it's just about being inclusive, or oh no, it's just
about respect. Now it's honestly, we just need to eliminate
segregated by sex sports because there's no difference in men
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and women. Physical made up their head, it's made up
in your head. This is crazy, but it's just as
crazy to say that there is no innate physical difference
in a more general sense between men and women. But
they do this. The Left does this because they are malcontents,
because they want to kick at the load bearing walls
of our civilization. And part of this is also to
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force people. I always I think this is very important.
I give it so Gulag Archipelago. Soulso needs it, you know,
Gulag Archipelago, right, one of the most important works of
the twentieth century. Everybody should at least read some of it.
It's tough reading in the sense that it's deeply depressing.
But they made everybody who went through the Gulag system
they were they were They were putting people through this
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and sending them away to die. They were physically abusing them.
They always wanted a confession. The reason they always wanted
a confession is because they wanted to break you. They
knew the charges were fake. They knew they were lying
about the hordes of people that they were bringing in
who were innocent and then sending off to the Gulag
to die and be tortured. But they wanted to emotionally
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and psychologically break you, so they made you sign crazy charges,
the equivalent of they beat you until you say I
assassinated Abraham Lincoln, right, something that's just it doesn't matter.
The point with the left now they want you to
say men and women aren't different, because then they've broken you.
Then they can get you to admit anything. And think
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about how few people in sports are actually willing to
stand up to how crazy this is. What the practical
impact of this would be is there would basically be
no women's athletics because if there were whatever high school
you go to or went to, or your kids or
your grandkids go to, if you did away, let's say
with women soccer and men's basketball, and you just played
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basketball at that school and you just played soccer at
that school, there would be no girls on the team.
They wouldn't be good enough. That's not a slight against
women's athletics. I enjoy all different types of athletics. But
if you just had basketball and you just had soccer,
you didn't have the Women's World Cup, and you didn't
have the men's World Cup, And if you didn't have
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the w NBA and you just had the NBA, there
would be no women's athletes that would ever make those teams.
There would be no women's Olympians because there is no
sport where men and women compete evenly, any sport, and
I'm aware of where a woman could beat all the
band in the world. Then you have the part of
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the article that goes into well, if you look at
you know, ten and eleven year olds, you know they
can play, they can play sports together. It's it's like,
so are we all going to pretend that the massive
inflows of different hormones and pituitary gland action between men
and women it has no difference. We're all gonna act
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like we don't realize. All of a sudden, clay men
start getting body hair in places they're not used to.
They start getting muscles that all of a sudden are
stronger than they used to be. We're supposed to act
like we don't know this. I mean, this is the
thing about the Atlantic is that it exists to present
a leftist, socially palatable worldview to libs who think they're
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really smart. How can they read this and still believe
that they're intelligent human beings. I mean, this is brainwashing, Buck,
Some of these quotes are crazy. This is from a
University of British Columbia professor. She says, part of the
reason why we have this belief boys are stronger than girls,
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and even the fact that we believe gender is a
binary is because of sports, not the other way around. Look,
I coached the league to your point, Buck, before boys
get testosterone and hit puberty. This is true. Girls and
boys athletes are not very different. And then boys become
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way bigger, way stronger, and way faster. And this is
not some like external thing that I have made up,
like Michael Jordan is not a chick, right, um, and
it could never have been a girl. Right. So the
people who actually play sports think this is crazy. And
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what needs to happen and hasn't happened yet, is all
these women's athlete players, right, and the people who have
advocated for Title nine in the first place. The reason
why Title nine exists is because of women not getting
equal opportunity to men in their own sport. It's not
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because look the best funding. So this is so when
I rode crew in college, the UMass and a UMass
University Massachusetts men's team had to basically self fund. They were, yeah,
they had to sell scholarships. And the women's team had
brand new I mean these Cruisells cost like thirty grand,
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probably more than that. Now. The women's team had the newest,
best gear. Why because the school had to find ways
to spend lots of money on women's sports. The men's
team they were out there and like a like a
bathtub with some oars. It was ridiculous, which which by
the way, is primarily because of football, because football takes
up eighty five scholars so much from every college, and
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then they have to equal that. And this is a
really interesting legal argument. Maybe somebody wants to make it
in the in the wake of this Atlantic article. You know,
football doesn't it's not men's football. Women are technically eligible
to play football. They're just not good enough. So should
you even count those as eighty five male scholarships? I
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mean legally, just think about it, like is maybe hey,
according to the Atlantic, maybe the next Ray Lewis is
some five ft two five foot two woman who's just
not getting an opportunity. There was a football on movie
where Kathy Ireland was the kicker. Yeah, Kathy Ireland was Vanderbilt,
my alum. My school had a female kicker. See, there's
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a real, real strong point for women's athletics. Should have
been the quarterback honestly too. But anyway, this article, I'm
gonna share it. You guys can go read it. We'll
put it up on Clay and Buck. It's one of
the dumbest things that I've ever seen. But it is
increasingly the province of the left in this country to
try and argue despite the fact that we're the Party
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many you out there play chess? Just wondering how many
of you are chess nerds. Actually it's a great it's
a great game. I got a nice chess board at home.
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I've played some. I even took a little bit of
chess lessons when I was like second or third grade.
Clay didn't give me all the ladies, but I did
learn a little bit of basic chess strategy. So I
am a I wouldn't even say I'm an advanced beginner.
I'm like a mediocre beginner. But I saw this in
the world of what I guess is sports, The world
number one Magnus Carlson resigned after one move in a
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rematch against this US teenage phenomenon, nineteen year old Hans Niemen,
and they were apparently totally taken aback by this. Now
some are saying this is because there are allegations that Nieman,
the nineteen year old, is cheating, And there was even
some rumors spreading on the internet that Elon must have
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made a joke about that he's getting chess signals through
something he had put in the area. You're so nervous
batal beads, I don't even know how this would work.
I don't know how you would be able to get signals.
But this is a legit story that he is being
somehow signaled on what moves he should make based on
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the use of anal beat, an electronic stimulation device placed
into his rear end. This is a real thing that
people are talking about now. This guy did quit after
one move, which is crazy. So it's clearly sending some
the world number one in chess, this is sending shockwaves
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through the chess world. This is like, I haven't said
anything like this since the Searching for Bobby Fisher movie
came out. Remember that that was pretty good? Yeah, it
was great. Um, this is the story is made for
a couple of the writers that we have an OutKick
who have dove in to cover this. Cover this like
it's Watergate. Um, but uh it is. It is kind
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of an unbelievable story, right and it must be some
legitimacy to it. If the world number one is refusing
to pay the only one. I don't even know how
you solve this. Do they have to play duke? And
when you're playing chess and you can either go with
your gut or have something in your butt. That's freak
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Insparity HR that makes a difference. Welcome back in Clay
Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us as we roll through the Tuesday edition of
the program. I want to give credit to a lot
of you out in Oregon who have been reaching out
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to the show. We appreciate everybody listening in Portland, and
you've been saying, Clay and Buck, you need to be
paying attention to what's going on in the Oregon governor's race.
It's not getting a lot of attention right now, but
Christine Drayson is putting together an incredible an incredible campaign,
and people are telling us that you are going to
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end up winning this race. And we bring in now
the woman who is trying to turn the state of
Oregon read and Christina, I just want you to run
us through what you're hearing from people all over the
state of Oregon and how much the disaster that is
Portland is feeding into so much of the momentum that
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you are picking up on to the point where a
lot of people that I trust believe you're going to
be the next governor of Oregon. So, first, thank you
so much for having me on today. I am super
excited to be on this show. I'm a big fan,
so this is an exciting moment for me. Let's just
let's just get that out there. Thank you. In radio,
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all of those things in one hand in hand basically
is what we're talking about right now. No Oregonians across
our state are feeling what um you know, whether or
not you're in Portland or Pendleton, you know, Eugene or
equal point. Folks across Oregon want change right now because
we have had Democrats in charge for forty years in
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the governor's office, but ten years of both branches of
government as far as the legislature and the governor's office
are concerned, which has led to a precipitous decade of decline,
where now we have homelessness, we have rampant drug use,
we have crime that skyrocketed, we have our schools that
are failing. All of these basic foundational elements of what
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makes a strong state and frankly leads to strong families
and strong communities has just fallen off the cliff here
in Oregon, and folks here want change. They're not talking
about partisan politics, they're not talking about Republican versus Democrat.
They're talking about balance, accountability, and just a better quality
of life. I mean, Biden's inflation is just obliterating everybody
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across the nation, but here in Oregon. It's especially shocking
because Democrats in the legislature here have raised three billion
dollars of taxes in just a six month period a
few years back, and all of that gets pushed down
to Oregonians, and now we've got this inflation. They're feeling
in their pocketbooks, They're feeling it in their businesses, they're
feeling it in their schools. Everywhere you look, Oregonians are saying, Nope,
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this thing an't working no more. We need change. Christine,
the decisions that have been made, I mean, I'm curious
if you could just explain to us what has been
done there that has brought the state of Oregument more
specifically Portland and the surrounding area to its current state.
I've alway been in Portland war once. It was in
two thousand and ten, and I remember thinking what a cool,
(22:05):
beautiful city it was, with great food. But every year
since then, I've just been reading more and more about
the deterioration. It became really a kind of the capital
of Antifa on the West coast, and the lawlessness and
the anarchy and the homelessness and the drugs they were
they were essentially camping out outside of an ice facility.
If I remember, immigrations and customs enforcement and harassing federal
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immigration officials and nobody was doing anything about it. What
were the decisions that were made? Like why did the
city of Portland and then more broadly, the state of
Oregon deteriorates so rapidly over the last ten years. We
had leadership in Portland that made the decision to defund police.
We were ground zero for treating police like criminals and
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our criminals like victims. That's Oregon. That's really hard. Left
progressive Democrats that have not have not taken Oregonians into
consideration when they've been pushing a political agenda. We all
feel it. So, you know, two hundred and seven percent
increase in homicides happens when you abandon the intervention teams
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that were in there in those communities making sure that
gun violence wasn't happening. And when story did you say,
a two h two hundred and seven percent increase in
homicide in two years in the city of Portland, and
you saw the beautiful city that Portland has been for
years and years and years and years, that is organ
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is a gem, is brilliant and gorgeous and welcoming, and
we have resilient, strong, innovative, community oriented you know, folks
that live here. And then you've got Portland, where Portlanders
have just basically been abandoned by their own leadership, and
the Democrats that I'm running against have doubled down on
that same agenda. You know, they have pushed to reduce
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funding for cops. The budgets that they've passed in Salem
haven't fully fund a police. The efforts that they've taken
in Salem have abandoned our ability to stand with and
protect victims. That's what I'm running against right now, are
folks that actually are continuing to pursue policies that have
already proven to hurt communities and families across our state.
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We're talking to Christine Dreysen. She is running for governor
of Oregon. Appreciate many of you listening on our Portland
Oregan affiliate k ex AM who know exactly of which
you are speaking. You're also a mom of three, and
last year, certainly we saw Glenn Young can flip the
state of Virginia to a large extent based on moms
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who were angry. I've got married to a mom of
three here in my house. I hear from a lot
of these moms who have been furious about what's going
on in the schools, about the fact that schools were closed.
I know an Oregon a lot people with public school
kids have been furious over the way that the governor
they're handled COVID and keeping schools open. What are you
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hearing from moms and also dads out there about what
they feel associated with schools and the way that their
kids are being treated there. Yeah, families, parents are absolutely
livid in Oregon, and they should be their students, Their
kids were abandoned for a political agenda that put a
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higher value on, you know, sort of union negotiations than
the needs of our students. And instead of doubling down
and funding interventions in the classroom to help all students
get back up to standards here in Oregon, they just
abandoned the standards. They reduced graduation requirements. They actually have
shifted curriculum inside our schools to begin to add all
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these layers that are really really politically driven. Just to
give you an example, if you've got a kindergartener here
in Oregon, that student, some of the curriculum requirements are
going to have that student as early as kindergarten thinking
about what is their identity and how do they pursue
justice and what they really need is to know how
to wait mind and hold on her pencil and have
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some big motors health. Amen. Amen, Yes, you know we're
speaking of Christine Brays and everybody. She's running for governor
of Oregon and it is a very close raised Christine,
which one of them. We want to really highlight this
because you are in it. This is not some you know,
down by twenty or thirty points and it's just trying
to make some kind of a statement you could be
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the next governor of Oregon. We've got a lot of
people listening. As Clay mentioned, k e XAM a fantastic
station with a big audience, big reach, but many other
stations throughout the state of Oregon too. To the people listening,
what can they do to help you and how do
they help bring this thing home so that there's some
sanity in your state of Oregon. Once again, we have
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to have Oregonians choose to win. They have to be
the ones to choose a new direction for our state.
I mean, we are a toss up race because Oregonians
have been standing up and pushing back and demanding change.
I need every Oregonian out there that's looking for change,
it doesn't want more of the same, that doesn't want
another decorative decline to vote. And you know, you can
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find more information on my race for ways to volunteer
and donate and show up on our days that we're
knocking on doors and making calls, which is every day
at Christine for organ dot com. But I need Orgonians
to believe in change. You know, it's been I know,
you know, we know this been forty years almost since
Organs had a Republican governor. You know, the last time
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we had a Republican governor, top Gun, it was in
the theaters, the Original And I say all the time,
now it's time for a sequel, right, And that really
is where we're at in Oregon. Is it's time to
lead our state in a new direction. And I need
Oregonians to vote. I need them to show up, and
I need them to stand with me and demand change. Christine.
I mean, that's a testament to how much of a
case you've already made. I mean, that's crazy to think
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it's been nineteen eighty six since Oregon had a Republican governor.
But the Cook Political Report has moved this race into
the toss up category. You are legitimately a candidate, and
we talk a lot on this show about saying versus insane.
You are trying to appeal, regardless of how people have
voted in the past, to the same people of Oregon
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to acknowledge that it's time for change. Yeah, they're just
asking for some common sense and I'm committed to bringing it.
And we haven't seen that for far too long in
our state. You know, for folks that weren't living through
it with us. We had some of the longest lockdowns
across the nation were our schools were set down longer
than California schools. And you know when you talk about
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outrage parents and parents that are just demanding better, that's
because Organs leaders have been far too political for far
too long and Oregon and understand, we just want common sense.
Didn't the lunatic governor Kate Brown tell people to snitch
on anybody who had more than four or six people
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in their home or something like that. Wasn't there a
period there where private homes in Oregon actually had some
kind of a cap Oh, Thanksgiving that was that was
the Thanksgiving tobaccle. She said, Nope, this isn't even a joke,
right you feel like this should there should be a
punchline coming at you right now. But she actually, she
actually called on Oregonians to limit their Thanksgiving get together
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as among family members to five or less. I believe. Listen,
tomb there you go five or less more than family
people I know, and then to call to call people
just in case you saw more cars out front in
front of your neighbor's houses. That is absolutely the governor
of Oregon wanted people to snitch on families that got
together with more than five people. The whole thing so stupid,
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arbitraryan insane. I just, Christine, anything we can do to help,
certainly if you are listening to us in or again,
this would be a monumental message to send to have
a Republican in the governor's office in Oregon again. We
know you would do an incredible job, Christine, and let
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us know how we can help coming down the next
forty nine days. Hey, thank you so much. It's been
great to talk to you today. Christine for Oregon dot Com.
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dot org. Unfortunately, instead of focusing on stabilizing the dollar,
the Federal Reserve is drastically raising interest rates far more
than any other country in the world. Other countries are
going to be printing a lot of money to help
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businesses and consumers to get through this hard winter, So
that's going to be a pressure on upward prices. So
we're in a recession. I don't care what they define
it as. Maybe we'll get a little blip upward in
the third quarter, or we're in a downturn, and the
Fed wants a downturn because the only way it knows
how to fight inflation is by making people poorer. Steve Forbes,
guy who knows about things like inflation the economy, kind
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of spent his entire life. He's been talking about this stuff,
writing about it longer than I've been alive. I don't
know if it's longer than you've been alive, Clay, but
the longer than right that he was right on the
flat tax. By the way, even youngsters like you, I
understand that's the Oh yeah, no. Look, he's a very
insightful guy. And what he's saying here, what do we
get the we're getting The Fed rate increase is supposed
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to happen tomorrow, right, so tomorrow you're gonna see the
FED rate increase coming out, which is going to mean
that for anybody thinking about buying a home a whole
lot more expensive, anybody who's gonna have to run up
debts on their credit card a whole lot more expensive.
All this stuff is going to be contracting the economy.
He gonna be making things harder. And as he says,
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the only way the Fed knows how to fight inflation
is to make people poorer, which is not usually how
this is phrased. But you did here even a few
months ago, Clay, some people pointing out that really, you know,
there is a mentality. Nobody wants to say this, but
to actually clear out what's happened here, to sort of
deal with this. It's almost like when you know, a
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forest fire happens and then you're able to have the
deadwood is gone and the new stuff can grow. A
recession based upon these cycles of Fed intervention and all
this other stuff, people have been saying, we kind of
need a recession. No one wants to say it that way,
but that's actually the only way this eventually resets. Yeah,
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and look, I am first of all, I'm great, was
Christine Drayson, And yesterday we had Tiffany Smiley, a person
in Oregon that thinks about anything reasonably and doesn't say,
let's at least give her a shot over lunatic Kate Brown.
Just think about where we were that the governor, the
Democrat governor of Oregon was asking people to call the
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police over whether too many people were coming over for
Thanksgiving dinner. And you're going to support that party. I'm sorry,
and I don't even mean in the context of part
in ship. This is why a lot of times I
like to focus on sane versus insane. They haven't had
a Republican governor since she said top gun was out
buck the first one, not the one right now, nineteen
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eighty six. How would you not give her a chance?
When the murder rate is skyrocketing like it is in Portland,
and everything is going wrong in that state in general,
and look, Oregan's a beautiful place. It shouldn't be a
dumpster fire. That's what Democrat policies have done at a minimum.
How would you not give her a chance? I mean, honestly, like,
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for four years a mom of three, I think she
could probably do a better job. Democrats at some level
rely on a delusion Shore, but also a degree of
stubbornness from their refusal to accept that maybe they had
made a bad decision in the past, because to change,
you know, who you're voting for, would be the acceptance.
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I mean, I sit here now and I'm like, look,
they're They're a Republican who have been very disappointing. There
are Republicans who I think people should be critical of
at different times. But if you're looking at Kate Brown
versus Christine Drayson, how could you not say this is
worth a shot? You know that that's the part of
what what is the mentality there? Exactly? But the the
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the only thing that Brown has going for really is
at least she didn't go downtown during the BLM riots
in Portland and pretend to be a good friend of
the activists as in Antifa lunatics and have the Antifa
lunatics start shouting curses at the person, as they did
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with the mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler. Do you remember
that one of the great, one of the weakest, most
weasily just like, yeah, Antifa, I'm here because they stand
with you. They were like, I can't say what they
were saying. They were just cursing him out to his face.
It was amazing. He's so deserved, it's deserved. It total.
I can't even say what the words I want to
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describe what a total pussy Willow moved by him to
do in the first place. I mean, just utterly ridiculous.
You've got to get out. We had Tiffany Smiley yesterday
was fantastic in Washington. She's got a chance to beat
Patty Murray. Kate Brown is I think term limited out.
So this is an open seat in Oregon. And you
just heard from Christine Drayson, and imagine the message that
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gets sent if Oregon voters rise to sanity and put
her in office. It would be phenomenal to see. We're
gonna be speaking of a major race. We've got doctor
Oz with us in the next hour and what exactly
is going on there the momentum all with Oz against Federman,
will talk about where we are headed forty nine days out.
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this until Buck sent me this story and or discussed
it with me, and I tracked it down. I don't
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read a lot of The Atlantic. It's probably an indictment
of me. I think I get enough of the Washington
Post in the New York Times without needing to subscribe
to the Atlantic, but someone named Maggie Mertons wrote a
story that is one of the dumbest stories I've ever
seen in the world of athletics and the coming denial
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of biologies stuff. Yeah. Look, I've had a lot of
dumb opinions over the years in the world of sports,
as many of you well know, and may continue to
have a lot of dumb opinions on a variety of
different things. I've never had an opinion this dumb. The
argument is separating sports by sex doesn't make sense. That's
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the headline of the Atlantic article. Those school sports are
typically sex segregated. A new generation of kids isn't to
content to compete within traditional structures. This is, let me
be clear, the natural evolution of the argument that men
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can compete against women, the whole Leah Sam madness that
you had a dude who decided to become a woman
and then became the greatest women's swimmer of the year
in college athletics. The natural outgrowth of transgender athletes is
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left wingers are going to say, we just need to
have a unisex category. Why are we even separating men's
and women's athletes, which is exactly what the Athletic the
Atlantic is arguing here. And the reason buck is because
women are not big, as big, as strong, and as
fast as men. But this is wild. In the article
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just now trot out things that are one hundred percent
not true and in fact are anti science. And this
has become a big deal. Biology isn't real too many
left wingers anymore. And it says here school sports are
typically sex segregated, and decades of research have sown sex
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is far more complex than we may think, and those
sex differences in sports show advantages for men. Researchers today
still don't know how much of this to attribute to
biological differences versus the lack of support provided to women
athletes to reach their highest potential. Let me be clear here.
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There is no Chicken America who is going to be
faster than Usain Bolt. There is no one in the
history of women's athletics who is going to be as
good of a quarterback as Tom Brady. All right, this
is not biological. You don't even have to go to
the extremes of who the greatest male athletes are in
their sports. I mean, you can look at what ends
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up happening. I mean, for example, I saw Serena Williams,
who many argue is the greatest female tennis player of
all times and is dominant in a way that you've
never seen somebody else in that sport be dominant. Right,
there is a woman who won whose last name is Court.
I believe it's Margaret Court who won more majors that
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it was like fifty years still why she's Australian, Yeah,
but it was why it was a long time ago.
The sport was very different speed then, very different, very
different game in a lot of ways. But Serena Williams
as somebody who's I've played enough tennis to tell you
that Serena Williams would lose to certainly the top two
hundred men on the tour and would probably even lose
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to a top d one men's NC double a tennis player, Okay,
I just to give and she's the greatest of all
times would argue in the sport as a as a woman.
A couple of years ago, John McEnroe got in trouble
because he said Serena wouldn't be one of the best
seven hundred men's players in the one hundred percent true.
I can't believe you got in trouble if it's not
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even close, by the way, and yeah, because he said
Serena was very talented, but she was the best women's
players because he was getting an interview and the interviewer said,
why wouldn't you say she's the greatest tennis player of
all time? And he said, because she's not. There are
seven hundred men right now who are way better than
Serena Williams. And I talked to a bunch of pro
athletes in tennis after that, and they said, Serena Williams
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an incredible talent, she wouldn't be on any decent college
men's tennis team. She couldn't make them correct. So it's
not even that she's not in the top seven hundred.
She's not in the top ten thousand best men's tennis
players in the world, according to guys who were way
more talented in tennis than me. I mean, the women's
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soccer US NOW national team played, was it the under
sixteen or the It was the under sixteen team, so
fourteen eighteen, I think it was fifteen and under in Dallas.
The best fifteen and under boys in Dallas. So kids
who are I mean, who are you know? Years away
from reaching full physical maturity, and they blew out the
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women's national team like eight to nothing, which in soccer terms,
or was it six to nothing? It was they beat
them comfortably. I don't remember the exact score. But the
point you're making, which is a really good one, is
that high school boys in one city in America, I
think it was like five to two as the women
were training the US women's national team, which is the
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best women's team in the world, as they were training,
they scrimmaged against these boys, and the boys beat them
fifteen and from Dallas, Texas. Another good stat for you
is every high school champion in the state of Texas
in track and field was fast at every category, every division.
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Was faster than the fastest woman in the history of
the world. I'm sorry it was it was five to two,
by the way I looked at it, five to two,
which is still a bunch of churches. Which you know,
you and I both played high school soccer. If you
lost five to two to another team, you went home
feeling bad about yourself. You weren't close to winning, right, um,
And yes, so they wiped them and again that's not
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the best fifteen year old boys. Was I write about
it being fifteen and under. It wasn't the best fifteen
year old boys in the United States. It was the
best fifteen year old boys in Dallas, Texas, one city
fifteen year old boys trounced the US women's team. So
here's where we are with this whole gender in sports situation.
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The the left has reached the they've reached the terminus year.
They've reached the full ends of where this all leads,
which five years ago was oh no, it's not that
it's just about being inclusive, or oh no, it's just
about respect. Now it's honestly, we just need to eliminate
segregated by sex sports because there's no difference in men
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and women. Physical made up their head, it's made up
in your head. This is crazy, but it's just as
crazy to say that there is no innate physical difference
in a more general sense between men and women. But
they do this. The Left does this because they are malcontents,
because they want to kick at the load bearing walls
of our civilization. And part of this is also to
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force people. I always I think this is very important.
I give it so Gulag Archipelago. Soulso needs it, you know,
Gulag Archipelago, right, one of the most important works of
the twentieth century. Everybody should at least read some of it.
It's tough reading in the sense that it's deeply depressing.
But they made everybody who went through the Gulag system
they were they were They were putting people through this
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and sending them away to die. They were physically abusing them.
They always wanted a confession. The reason they always wanted
a confession is because they wanted to break you. They
knew the charges were fake. They knew they were lying
about the hordes of people that they were bringing in
who were innocent and then sending off to the Gulag
to die and be tortured. But they wanted to emotionally
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and psychologically break you, so they made you sign crazy charges,
the equivalent of they beat you until you say I
assassinated Abraham Lincoln, right, something that's just it doesn't matter.
The point with the left now they want you to
say men and women aren't different, because then they've broken you.
Then they can get you to admit anything. And think
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about how few people in sports are actually willing to
stand up to how crazy this is. What the practical
impact of this would be is there would basically be
no women's athletics because if there were whatever high school
you go to or went to, or your kids or
your grandkids go to, if you did away, let's say
with women soccer and men's basketball, and you just played
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basketball at that school and you just played soccer at
that school, there would be no girls on the team.
They wouldn't be good enough. That's not a slight against
women's athletics. I enjoy all different types of athletics. But
if you just had basketball and you just had soccer,
you didn't have the Women's World Cup, and you didn't
have the men's World Cup, And if you didn't have
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the w NBA and you just had the NBA, there
would be no women's athletes that would ever make those teams.
There would be no women's Olympians because there is no
sport where men and women compete evenly, any sport, and
I'm aware of where a woman could beat all the
band in the world. Then you have the part of
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the article that goes into well, if you look at
you know, ten and eleven year olds, you know they
can play, they can play sports together. It's it's like,
so are we all going to pretend that the massive
inflows of different hormones and pituitary gland action between men
and women it has no difference. We're all gonna act
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like we don't realize. All of a sudden, clay men
start getting body hair in places they're not used to.
They start getting muscles that all of a sudden are
stronger than they used to be. We're supposed to act
like we don't know this. I mean, this is the
thing about the Atlantic is that it exists to present
a leftist, socially palatable worldview to libs who think they're
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really smart. How can they read this and still believe
that they're intelligent human beings. I mean, this is brainwashing, Buck,
Some of these quotes are crazy. This is from a
University of British Columbia professor. She says, part of the
reason why we have this belief boys are stronger than girls,
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and even the fact that we believe gender is a
binary is because of sports, not the other way around. Look,
I coached the league to your point, Buck, before boys
get testosterone and hit puberty. This is true. Girls and
boys athletes are not very different. And then boys become
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way bigger, way stronger, and way faster. And this is
not some like external thing that I have made up,
like Michael Jordan is not a chick, right, um, and
it could never have been a girl. Right. So the
people who actually play sports think this is crazy. And
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what needs to happen and hasn't happened yet, is all
these women's athlete players, right, and the people who have
advocated for Title nine in the first place. The reason
why Title nine exists is because of women not getting
equal opportunity to men in their own sport. It's not
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because look the best funding. So this is so when
I rode crew in college, the UMass and a UMass
University Massachusetts men's team had to basically self fund. They were, yeah,
they had to sell scholarships. And the women's team had
brand new I mean these Cruisells cost like thirty grand,
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probably more than that. Now. The women's team had the newest,
best gear. Why because the school had to find ways
to spend lots of money on women's sports. The men's
team they were out there and like a like a
bathtub with some oars. It was ridiculous, which which by
the way, is primarily because of football, because football takes
up eighty five scholars so much from every college, and
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then they have to equal that. And this is a
really interesting legal argument. Maybe somebody wants to make it
in the in the wake of this Atlantic article. You know,
football doesn't it's not men's football. Women are technically eligible
to play football. They're just not good enough. So should
you even count those as eighty five male scholarships? I
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mean legally, just think about it, like is maybe hey,
according to the Atlantic, maybe the next Ray Lewis is
some five ft two five foot two woman who's just
not getting an opportunity. There was a football on movie
where Kathy Ireland was the kicker. Yeah, Kathy Ireland was Vanderbilt,
my alum. My school had a female kicker. See, there's
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a real, real strong point for women's athletics. Should have
been the quarterback honestly too. But anyway, this article, I'm
gonna share it. You guys can go read it. We'll
put it up on Clay and Buck. It's one of
the dumbest things that I've ever seen. But it is
increasingly the province of the left in this country to
try and argue despite the fact that we're the Party
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of you are chess nerds. Actually it's a great it's
a great game. I got a nice chess board at home.
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I've played some. I even took a little bit of
chess lessons when I was like second or third grade.
Clay didn't give me all the ladies, but I did
learn a little bit of basic chess strategy. So I
am a I wouldn't even say I'm an advanced beginner.
I'm like a mediocre beginner. But I saw this in
the world of what I guess is sports, The world
number one Magnus Carlson resigned after one move in a
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rematch against this US teenage phenomenon, nineteen year old Hans Niemen,
and they were apparently totally taken aback by this. Now
some are saying this is because there are allegations that Nieman,
the nineteen year old, is cheating, And there was even
some rumors spreading on the internet that Elon must have
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made a joke about that he's getting chess signals through
something he had put in the area. You're so nervous
batal beads, I don't even know how this would work.
I don't know how you would be able to get signals.
But this is a legit story that he is being
somehow signaled on what moves he should make based on
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the use of anal beat, an electronic stimulation device placed
into his rear end. This is a real thing that
people are talking about now. This guy did quit after
one move, which is crazy. So it's clearly sending some
the world number one in chess, this is sending shockwaves
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through the chess world. This is like, I haven't said
anything like this since the Searching for Bobby Fisher movie
came out. Remember that that was pretty good? Yeah, it
was great. Um, this is the story is made for
a couple of the writers that we have an OutKick
who have dove in to cover this. Cover this like
it's Watergate. Um, but uh it is. It is kind
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of an unbelievable story, right and it must be some
legitimacy to it. If the world number one is refusing
to pay the only one. I don't even know how
you solve this. Do they have to play duke? And
when you're playing chess and you can either go with
your gut or have something in your butt. That's freak
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Insparity HR that makes a difference. Welcome back in Clay
Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us as we roll through the Tuesday edition of
the program. I want to give credit to a lot
of you out in Oregon who have been reaching out
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to the show. We appreciate everybody listening in Portland, and
you've been saying, Clay and Buck, you need to be
paying attention to what's going on in the Oregon governor's race.
It's not getting a lot of attention right now, but
Christine Drayson is putting together an incredible an incredible campaign,
and people are telling us that you are going to
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end up winning this race. And we bring in now
the woman who is trying to turn the state of
Oregon read and Christina, I just want you to run
us through what you're hearing from people all over the
state of Oregon and how much the disaster that is
Portland is feeding into so much of the momentum that
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you are picking up on to the point where a
lot of people that I trust believe you're going to
be the next governor of Oregon. So, first, thank you
so much for having me on today. I am super
excited to be on this show. I'm a big fan,
so this is an exciting moment for me. Let's just
let's just get that out there. Thank you. In radio,
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all of those things in one hand in hand basically
is what we're talking about right now. No Oregonians across
our state are feeling what um you know, whether or
not you're in Portland or Pendleton, you know, Eugene or
equal point. Folks across Oregon want change right now because
we have had Democrats in charge for forty years in
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the governor's office, but ten years of both branches of
government as far as the legislature and the governor's office
are concerned, which has led to a precipitous decade of decline,
where now we have homelessness, we have rampant drug use,
we have crime that skyrocketed, we have our schools that
are failing. All of these basic foundational elements of what
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makes a strong state and frankly leads to strong families
and strong communities has just fallen off the cliff here
in Oregon, and folks here want change. They're not talking
about partisan politics, they're not talking about Republican versus Democrat.
They're talking about balance, accountability, and just a better quality
of life. I mean, Biden's inflation is just obliterating everybody
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across the nation, but here in Oregon. It's especially shocking
because Democrats in the legislature here have raised three billion
dollars of taxes in just a six month period a
few years back, and all of that gets pushed down
to Oregonians, and now we've got this inflation. They're feeling
in their pocketbooks, They're feeling it in their businesses, they're
feeling it in their schools. Everywhere you look, Oregonians are saying, Nope,
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this thing an't working no more. We need change. Christine,
the decisions that have been made, I mean, I'm curious
if you could just explain to us what has been
done there that has brought the state of Oregument more
specifically Portland and the surrounding area to its current state.
I've alway been in Portland war once. It was in
two thousand and ten, and I remember thinking what a cool,
(22:05):
beautiful city it was, with great food. But every year
since then, I've just been reading more and more about
the deterioration. It became really a kind of the capital
of Antifa on the West coast, and the lawlessness and
the anarchy and the homelessness and the drugs they were
they were essentially camping out outside of an ice facility.
If I remember, immigrations and customs enforcement and harassing federal
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immigration officials and nobody was doing anything about it. What
were the decisions that were made? Like why did the
city of Portland and then more broadly, the state of
Oregon deteriorates so rapidly over the last ten years. We
had leadership in Portland that made the decision to defund police.
We were ground zero for treating police like criminals and
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our criminals like victims. That's Oregon. That's really hard. Left
progressive Democrats that have not have not taken Oregonians into
consideration when they've been pushing a political agenda. We all
feel it. So, you know, two hundred and seven percent
increase in homicides happens when you abandon the intervention teams
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that were in there in those communities making sure that
gun violence wasn't happening. And when story did you say,
a two h two hundred and seven percent increase in
homicide in two years in the city of Portland, and
you saw the beautiful city that Portland has been for
years and years and years and years, that is organ
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is a gem, is brilliant and gorgeous and welcoming, and
we have resilient, strong, innovative, community oriented you know, folks
that live here. And then you've got Portland, where Portlanders
have just basically been abandoned by their own leadership, and
the Democrats that I'm running against have doubled down on
that same agenda. You know, they have pushed to reduce
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funding for cops. The budgets that they've passed in Salem
haven't fully fund a police. The efforts that they've taken
in Salem have abandoned our ability to stand with and
protect victims. That's what I'm running against right now, are
folks that actually are continuing to pursue policies that have
already proven to hurt communities and families across our state.
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We're talking to Christine Dreysen. She is running for governor
of Oregon. Appreciate many of you listening on our Portland
Oregan affiliate k ex AM who know exactly of which
you are speaking. You're also a mom of three, and
last year, certainly we saw Glenn Young can flip the
state of Virginia to a large extent based on moms
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who were angry. I've got married to a mom of
three here in my house. I hear from a lot
of these moms who have been furious about what's going
on in the schools, about the fact that schools were closed.
I know an Oregon a lot people with public school
kids have been furious over the way that the governor
they're handled COVID and keeping schools open. What are you
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hearing from moms and also dads out there about what
they feel associated with schools and the way that their
kids are being treated there. Yeah, families, parents are absolutely
livid in Oregon, and they should be their students, Their
kids were abandoned for a political agenda that put a
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higher value on, you know, sort of union negotiations than
the needs of our students. And instead of doubling down
and funding interventions in the classroom to help all students
get back up to standards here in Oregon, they just
abandoned the standards. They reduced graduation requirements. They actually have
shifted curriculum inside our schools to begin to add all
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these layers that are really really politically driven. Just to
give you an example, if you've got a kindergartener here
in Oregon, that student, some of the curriculum requirements are
going to have that student as early as kindergarten thinking
about what is their identity and how do they pursue
justice and what they really need is to know how
to wait mind and hold on her pencil and have
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some big motors health. Amen. Amen, Yes, you know we're
speaking of Christine Brays and everybody. She's running for governor
of Oregon and it is a very close raised Christine,
which one of them. We want to really highlight this
because you are in it. This is not some you know,
down by twenty or thirty points and it's just trying
to make some kind of a statement you could be
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the next governor of Oregon. We've got a lot of
people listening. As Clay mentioned, k e XAM a fantastic
station with a big audience, big reach, but many other
stations throughout the state of Oregon too. To the people listening,
what can they do to help you and how do
they help bring this thing home so that there's some
sanity in your state of Oregon. Once again, we have
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to have Oregonians choose to win. They have to be
the ones to choose a new direction for our state.
I mean, we are a toss up race because Oregonians
have been standing up and pushing back and demanding change.
I need every Oregonian out there that's looking for change,
it doesn't want more of the same, that doesn't want
another decorative decline to vote. And you know, you can
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find more information on my race for ways to volunteer
and donate and show up on our days that we're
knocking on doors and making calls, which is every day
at Christine for organ dot com. But I need Orgonians
to believe in change. You know, it's been I know,
you know, we know this been forty years almost since
Organs had a Republican governor. You know, the last time
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we had a Republican governor, top Gun, it was in
the theaters, the Original And I say all the time,
now it's time for a sequel, right, And that really
is where we're at in Oregon. Is it's time to
lead our state in a new direction. And I need
Oregonians to vote. I need them to show up, and
I need them to stand with me and demand change. Christine.
I mean, that's a testament to how much of a
case you've already made. I mean, that's crazy to think
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it's been nineteen eighty six since Oregon had a Republican governor.
But the Cook Political Report has moved this race into
the toss up category. You are legitimately a candidate, and
we talk a lot on this show about saying versus insane.
You are trying to appeal, regardless of how people have
voted in the past, to the same people of Oregon
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to acknowledge that it's time for change. Yeah, they're just
asking for some common sense and I'm committed to bringing it.
And we haven't seen that for far too long in
our state. You know, for folks that weren't living through
it with us. We had some of the longest lockdowns
across the nation were our schools were set down longer
than California schools. And you know when you talk about
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outrage parents and parents that are just demanding better, that's
because Organs leaders have been far too political for far
too long and Oregon and understand, we just want common sense.
Didn't the lunatic governor Kate Brown tell people to snitch
on anybody who had more than four or six people
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in their home or something like that. Wasn't there a
period there where private homes in Oregon actually had some
kind of a cap Oh, Thanksgiving that was that was
the Thanksgiving tobaccle. She said, Nope, this isn't even a joke,
right you feel like this should there should be a
punchline coming at you right now. But she actually, she
actually called on Oregonians to limit their Thanksgiving get together
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as among family members to five or less. I believe. Listen,
tomb there you go five or less more than family
people I know, and then to call to call people
just in case you saw more cars out front in
front of your neighbor's houses. That is absolutely the governor
of Oregon wanted people to snitch on families that got
together with more than five people. The whole thing so stupid,
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arbitraryan insane. I just, Christine, anything we can do to help,
certainly if you are listening to us in or again,
this would be a monumental message to send to have
a Republican in the governor's office in Oregon again. We
know you would do an incredible job, Christine, and let
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us know how we can help coming down the next
forty nine days. Hey, thank you so much. It's been
great to talk to you today. Christine for Oregon dot Com.
Folks is her website. Go check it out. Thanks to
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t twot dot org. That's t the number two t
dot org. Unfortunately, instead of focusing on stabilizing the dollar,
the Federal Reserve is drastically raising interest rates far more
than any other country in the world. Other countries are
going to be printing a lot of money to help
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businesses and consumers to get through this hard winter, So
that's going to be a pressure on upward prices. So
we're in a recession. I don't care what they define
it as. Maybe we'll get a little blip upward in
the third quarter, or we're in a downturn, and the
Fed wants a downturn because the only way it knows
how to fight inflation is by making people poorer. Steve Forbes,
guy who knows about things like inflation the economy, kind
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of spent his entire life. He's been talking about this stuff,
writing about it longer than I've been alive. I don't
know if it's longer than you've been alive, Clay, but
the longer than right that he was right on the
flat tax. By the way, even youngsters like you, I
understand that's the Oh yeah, no. Look, he's a very
insightful guy. And what he's saying here, what do we
get the we're getting The Fed rate increase is supposed
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to happen tomorrow, right, so tomorrow you're gonna see the
FED rate increase coming out, which is going to mean
that for anybody thinking about buying a home a whole
lot more expensive, anybody who's gonna have to run up
debts on their credit card a whole lot more expensive.
All this stuff is going to be contracting the economy.
He gonna be making things harder. And as he says,
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the only way the Fed knows how to fight inflation
is to make people poorer, which is not usually how
this is phrased. But you did here even a few
months ago, Clay, some people pointing out that really, you know,
there is a mentality. Nobody wants to say this, but
to actually clear out what's happened here, to sort of
deal with this. It's almost like when you know, a
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forest fire happens and then you're able to have the
deadwood is gone and the new stuff can grow. A
recession based upon these cycles of Fed intervention and all
this other stuff, people have been saying, we kind of
need a recession. No one wants to say it that way,
but that's actually the only way this eventually resets. Yeah,
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and look, I am first of all, I'm great, was
Christine Drayson, And yesterday we had Tiffany Smiley, a person
in Oregon that thinks about anything reasonably and doesn't say,
let's at least give her a shot over lunatic Kate Brown.
Just think about where we were that the governor, the
Democrat governor of Oregon was asking people to call the
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police over whether too many people were coming over for
Thanksgiving dinner. And you're going to support that party. I'm sorry,
and I don't even mean in the context of part
in ship. This is why a lot of times I
like to focus on sane versus insane. They haven't had
a Republican governor since she said top gun was out
buck the first one, not the one right now, nineteen
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eighty six. How would you not give her a chance?
When the murder rate is skyrocketing like it is in Portland,
and everything is going wrong in that state in general,
and look, Oregan's a beautiful place. It shouldn't be a
dumpster fire. That's what Democrat policies have done at a minimum.
How would you not give her a chance? I mean, honestly, like,
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for four years a mom of three, I think she
could probably do a better job. Democrats at some level
rely on a delusion Shore, but also a degree of
stubbornness from their refusal to accept that maybe they had
made a bad decision in the past, because to change,
you know, who you're voting for, would be the acceptance.
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I mean, I sit here now and I'm like, look,
they're They're a Republican who have been very disappointing. There
are Republicans who I think people should be critical of
at different times. But if you're looking at Kate Brown
versus Christine Drayson, how could you not say this is
worth a shot? You know that that's the part of
what what is the mentality there? Exactly? But the the
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the only thing that Brown has going for really is
at least she didn't go downtown during the BLM riots
in Portland and pretend to be a good friend of
the activists as in Antifa lunatics and have the Antifa
lunatics start shouting curses at the person, as they did
(35:39):
with the mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler. Do you remember
that one of the great, one of the weakest, most
weasily just like, yeah, Antifa, I'm here because they stand
with you. They were like, I can't say what they
were saying. They were just cursing him out to his face.
It was amazing. He's so deserved, it's deserved. It total.
I can't even say what the words I want to
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describe what a total pussy Willow moved by him to
do in the first place. I mean, just utterly ridiculous.
You've got to get out. We had Tiffany Smiley yesterday
was fantastic in Washington. She's got a chance to beat
Patty Murray. Kate Brown is I think term limited out.
So this is an open seat in Oregon. And you
just heard from Christine Drayson, and imagine the message that
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gets sent if Oregon voters rise to sanity and put
her in office. It would be phenomenal to see. We're
gonna be speaking of a major race. We've got doctor
Oz with us in the next hour and what exactly
is going on there the momentum all with Oz against Federman,
will talk about where we are headed forty nine days out.
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