September 22, 2022 • 36 mins
Ohio Senate candidate JD Vance joins Clay and Buck to talk about his race against Tim Ryan and is asked if he agrees with C&B's mantra: "Economy, the border, crime," as well as discussing abortion issues. The Monster Fauci thinks he symbolizes truth. Alex Berenson with C&B to explain how bad vaccines led to herd immunity. Actor Scott Baio of Charles in Charge fame calls in to tell us about L.A. crime.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
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name Clay Travis, you can starch out buck Sexton. We
are joined now by Ohio senate candidate, best selling author
jd Vance. JD you've been feuding with Tim Ryan. Unbelieved
I saw this story. I couldn't believe it. Over who
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likes Ohio State football more? Now, you know, I'm a
pretty big college football fan. I didn't anticipate this being
a major brew haha, so to speak. But I think
it probably speaks the desperation that Tim Ryan is phil
feeling that he's trying to make this an issue. The
campaign's going pretty well, right, Yeah, it's definitely going well.
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And it's one of these weird issues where, you know,
reminds me a couple of years ago, where like every
liberal Hollywood got really into the NFL because they put
in racism in the end zone. He did this weird
thing where he obsessed for two weeks about the fact
that Trump was holding a rally, which of course I
was going to because it was in the state, while
during an Ohio States football game, and by the way,
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it was it was Ohio State Toledo. I think at
Ohio State scored like basketball team level numbers against Filio.
I was not exactly worried. It's not the biggest game
of the year for the Black Eyes. I think it's
fair to say, yeah, exactly. But the hilarious thing is
it turns out he was not watching the game either,
and so he had his staff live tweeting the game
as if it was him. But he was at somebody's wedding,
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so you know, who cares like he goes to a wedding,
no one would make an issue out of it. But
he decided to make an issue out of this football game,
even though he was being hypocritical. It's sort of a
good illustration of his entire campaign, which is a bit
of a bit of a cluster a JD. It's Buck,
we were just talking about the crime issue and i'd
seen when was this just to make sure I'm giving yeah, Oh,
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just today that Columbus, Ohio, for example, has already passed
one hundred homicides. It's a little later, two months later
than the record year of homicides they had last year.
Ohio statewide and its major cities, how is it doing
when it comes to crime and what are some of
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the progressive prosecutors pushing in those cities. You know, we
talked about Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago, Illinois. What's going on in
Ohio crime wise? Well, it's not good, Buck, So we
definitely have a crime problem in Ohio. If you look
at some of our biggest cities, you know we have
we have violent crime rates that rivals some third world countries.
And you know, everybody thinks about Chicago, New York, in
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San Francisco, but there are some cities in Ohio that
are doing very poorly. And you're right to ask about
the pro secus because the thing they're really doing is
it's actually not just the prosecutors, but it's a lot
of the very activist local judges here. The police officers.
I've heard them say they bring a guy who carjacked
a woman at eight in the morning, and instead of
arresting while, they arrest the person, but instead of putting
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that person in jail, the judges will let them out.
They will so call divert them from the traditional criminal
justice system, and then the copts will arrest the same
person the same day, committing the same violent crime. And
that's happening all over the state of Ohio. And again,
this is just a straightforward policy choice. If you look
at the statistics, you guys, it's a very consistent story
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that a substantial share of the violent crime is committed
by a handful of people. So this decision to just
let violent criminals maraud around our streets is very very
directly causing this. And if we just accept that some people,
you know what, they need to spend some time in prison,
we could deal with a lot of this problem. JD.
When you look at and talk to people on this,
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you've been all over Ohio, Buck and I have been
saying it's inflation, slash the economy, it's the border, and
it's crime. Does that overwhelmingly reflect what you are hearing
from your constituents in Ohio about their biggest concerns it is.
I mean, those are definitely the top three issues, and
you know, you hear about them in different ways, but
definitely those are the things that dominate people's minds. I
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will say that a lot of people, you know, I
might add to that, they're they're just sick of being
told what they're allowed to say and what they're allowed
to think. A lot of people in Ohio, obviously, I
mean not just Ohio, all across the country headed back
to school in the last couple of weeks, and so
I think the fact that too many schools are in
the game of indoctrinating kids instead of educating kids is
coming back to the forefront of parents' minds. They're very
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worried about the quality of the education their kids are getting.
There have been a couple of little rumors about you know,
COVID policy getting a little crazy, some schools remasking and
so forth. So I think the school issue remains a
big issue, and I think it's you know, a lot
of people for got about it because we've just had
this very long political summer. But as people get back
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to the cadence of normal life, I suspect the school
issue is going to be top of mind come November
as well. Speaking of JD Vance, he is running for
Senate in Ohio. J D what would be your top priorities?
I mean, obviously, with Joe Biden still in office, getting
any laws passed would be very difficult. But we're going
to be in a presidential election cycle as soon as
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the midterm cycle ends, you know, finishes up, so the
policies that are put forward by the GOP will be
essentially on the ballot in twenty twenty four. What do
you think is critical to get done? I mean, what
are some of the things legislatively that you would want
a spearhead? Well, look, I think we could close the border.
You know, Biden knows that this is politically and popular.
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I think that he'd probably like an exit ramp, especially
as he heads into a presidential election year. Of course,
if they let him run in the first place. But
I think, you know, we could actually say, look, you're
not gonna get a dollar of your priorities if you
don't actually enforce the border, build the border wall and
allow the border patrol agents to do what they do best,
which is keep us safe. I also think that you
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cheer point about him vetoing laws. You know, we should
actually propose legislation and let him be to this stuff. Right,
Do some things that are politically popular, that are good
for the country, that are consistent with our values, and
force Joe Biden to say no to it, so that
when we run in twenty four, whether it's Trump or
to Stand or whoever else, we actually have a set
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of priorities. It's not just Biden to the bad president.
You know, seventy percent of the country agrees with that,
But here are a series of Republican proposals where if
we take the country in a different direction, this will
affirmatively become law and make your life better. A big
part of that, obviously, JD, is that Tim Ryan has
tried to claim that he is a moderate and independent
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voice while at the same time supporting virtually everything that
Joe Biden advocates for. What about that appeal is that
having success in convincing people that he is a moderate
or are most people seeing through it and recognizing that
essentially he's a rubber stamp for everything that Joe Biden
wanted to get done. I think most people see through it.
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In sort of our job over the next fifty days
is to make sure everybody sees through it, because you're
exactly right. It's an incredible contrast between the DC liberal
Tim Ryan, who votes for open borders, who votes to
let violent criminals out of prison, who votes to crush
the Ohio energy economy, which is one of the things
driving inflation, and then the totally reasonable guy that comes
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on these TV commercials and runs away from every single
position where he's taken a vote, even a couple of
years ago. I mean, even the student debt issue, right,
not a very popular thing. I think a deeply unfair
thing that Joe Biden did and probably illegal. Tim Ryan
voted for a more generous version of student debt relief
and then comes around and says, well, I don't actually
like what Joe Biden is doing. Well, the reason you
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say you don't like it is because you know it's
not going to get you elected to the Senate. But look,
the guy's record is the guy's record, and it's impossible
for him to run away from it. We've started to
hammer him on the airwaves to let people know that
the fake moderate they see in these TV commercials is
not the real DC Tim Ryan. We're gonna keep on
doing that, and I think it's already had a big effect.
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I think it'll continue to have a big effect through
the election. So I feel good about our race. And
I think you know, those of your listeners who are
in Ohio, just let your friends know, let your family know.
This is this guy's not a moderate, he's not a conservative.
He is a very radical rubber stamp for Joe Biden
Nancy Pelosi. And of course, if people have resources, they
can go to JD vance dot com donates to the
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campaign and help us fund some of these advertisements that
get that message out. JD. We've got a lot of
people listening across Ohio, including an our affiliate whlo Am
in the Cleveland Akron area, and so they can go
to your side. As you said, I'm just wondering, are
you getting the same kind of dodging the question or
dodging the debate treatment with Ryan that we've seen start
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to It's just becoming obvious right in another races, Cortes
Mastow in Nevada is not really willing to face the
press or square off against Adam Laxalt. Clearly, Fetterman to
your east there, Fetterman and Oz Fetterman's trying to avoid
that letter. I mean, so are we seeing the same
thing with Tim Ryan. You said that he's misrepresenting himself,
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But is he also trying to pull a hide in
the basement and hope the press carries the water form routine.
What's going on? Well, you know, Feederman is of course
the most well spoken of the Democrats, so os has
to be careful there. But you know, in our race
in Ohio, we really want to debate, and we think,
we think that we are going to have debates. Now
here's the deal. We've accepted a couple of debates, and
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you know, a couple of media organizations said we'd like
to host these debates. Our campaign went out immediately and said, okay,
those are the two debates that will do. Now, the
only debate that Tim Ryan has said he wants to
do is one foot On by the Debate Commission. And
that may sound like a nonpartisan organization, but as we
found out a couple of days ago, the Ohio Debate
Commission the leader is a literal Tim Ryan. Donner like
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she's written checks to Tim Ryan. She was on the
board of Planned Parenthood, but she's basically an activist organization,
and so the debate we're having here in Ohio is, yes,
we'll do the debate, but we're not doing it with
a partisan democratic organization. We'll do it with nonpartisan media organizations.
And I think you know, our message to Tim Ryan
has been, look, you know, I guarantee he's seeing the
same thing in his internal numbers that we're seeing in ours.
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He needs the debates more than we do, and so
I hope will accept. I mean claim we've got people
on w KRC and Cincinnati WTAM in Cleveland WHLO, and
Acron WTVN in Columbus, Toledo, Ohio WSPD. I mean they
can make a big difference here. I think everyone needs
to understand they can make the difference in this race. No,
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in many of those markets, we are number one in
the entire market right now, so JD, I hope they're
listening and hope they're enjoying this. One of the things
that stood out and we went after Tim Ryan for
this was he essentially said he supports abortion all the
way through nine months. And obviously many different states are
coming to many different laws as it pertains to that.
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Are you finding that most Ohioans JD find Tim Ryan's
position of abortion all the way through nine months is
a radical proposition. Yeah. Absolutely, And look, I'm pro life,
and I recognize, you know, different people are going to
draw the line, maybe differently from what I would like
to do, but pretty much all of us can agree
that you should not have taxpayer funded elective abortion at
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forty weeks, right. You can't use you can't use abortion
as birth control, especially that late in pregnancy. And Tim
Ryan has repeatedly voted for legislation that not only would
allow it nationwide, would invalidate any restriction on abortion nationwide,
but would also force Ohio taxpayers to foot the bill.
It's really a testament to how crazy the Democrats have
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gotten on the issue. If you look across the world, Scandinavia,
Western Europe, these are typically considered pretty far less societies.
You know, they typically banned abortion after twelve to fifteen weeks.
The only countries that allow NonStop abortion on demand up
to the moment of birth are North Korea and China. Like,
I don't want to join that club. I guess we're
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already in that club, but I don't want to be
part of that club. Anymore. And again, I think it
just shows Tim Ryan's really out of step here and
people ask, well, why does he take such radical positions
that the answer is actually really simple because the activists
that fund his campaign. The reason why he has all
these TV commercials saying that he's a moderate is because
these activists put a lot of money into his race,
and he knows if he crosses these people, he's gonna
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have to run on his own record and he's gonna lose. JD. Vance,
he's gonna win be the next senator from Ohio. You
can give him your support. Kevis that website one more time. JD. Yeah,
that's jd vance dot com. Appreciate everything, Appreciate what you
guys are doing, and everybody in Ohio, let's get out
and vote on November eight. Thanks JD and Clay. We're
thinking he's gonna win. He's gotta win by a lot, though, folks.
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It's got to send a message. Can't be close. Get
out there, help him, amen, and hopefully the Buckeyes will
continue to win. So Tim Ryan, I'll have something to
talk about. We'll talk more about some of the craziness
that's going on. We got to play this clip for
you of Stacy Abrahams at some point this hour or
next hour, buck about sonograms and heartbeats, and I mean
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I guess right, Buck, As we are pivoting into the fall,
we bring on now, Alex Berenson, it's cold and flu season.
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Fouci's gearing up Fall is here, Alex. I want to
start with this because we've been having fun with it
and I know you're going to take it to a
dark place eventually with all the results that are coming
in unfortunately from these these COVID shots. So what is
your reaction to reports that Fauci would regularly mock the
restaurant restrictions that you would have to wear a mask
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until you got seated, and also that he said privately
I could get people to believe they need to do
anything when he was talking about wearing goggles and double
and triple masking. I mean, does it make you hate
him even more? Uh? You know, I'd actually be glad
if that's true. I know this is from this this
Trump tell all right? This yeah, Brian Morgan's and we
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had him on the show yesterday talking about it. I mean,
because then at least he'd be in on the joke
a little bit, and he's not a complete idiot, So
those are choices, like to be that, like, I guess
I'd rather believe that he's like a cynical you know,
you know what, than like he's just a moron who
actually believed the idea that masking while you're walking to
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the table and not masking while you're eating made any sense.
But those are really are choices, right, He's either a
full or a cynic alex. The latest on the vaccines?
What do we need to know about? First of all,
there are places Smith College place. I actually spent a
lot of time when I was in college. I know
it pretty well. It's it is. It has been an
insane asylum in a lot of ways for a long
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time on a whole bunch of issues. But Smith College,
I think, is requiring the most up to date vaccination.
Why is it? I mean we were asking questions six seven,
eight months ago now, like, hey, how affect They keep
saying it's so effective at preventing death. But then we
started to see these numbers out even though it at
high risk that most of the people who were dying
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on a monthly basis in this country were vaccinated like,
how do we how do we disentangle the efficacy component
before we talk about the side effect component. Well, I mean,
so look, we're we're at this interesting place. There's been
a I mean, the vaccines are now rejected I think,
I mean, I think almost nobody with the choice is
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getting this by val and Booster, and you know, to
to you know, I don't want to, I don't want
to like to depend too much on my anecdote here,
but I think I've mentioned my mother a couple of
times on the show in the past, and she, uh,
you know, she's an MSNBC watcher and refers to Anti
Faschy as America's doctor without um uh, you know, without irony.
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Gotta be a fun Thanksgiving and she and she is
probably or at least seriously considering not getting the gift shot.
And so, you know, I think even for people, you know,
she's had COVID a couple of times, she's gotten her fine,
you know, her for shots. You know, even somebody, even
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people who are predisposed to believe everything that they've been
told for the last two years now understand that the
vaccine is not protective against infection or transmission. And I
and people. You know, look, people are looking around and seeing,
you know, we're two plus years into this. Who do
I know who's gotten really sick from COVID? Who do
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I know who's died from COVID? Who wasn't eighty five
years old or four hundred pounds? And for most people,
almost everybody to answer that question is nobody. I don't
know anybody who who you know, who for whom this
was a serious disease, Who wasn't you know who wasn't
sick in some profound way beforehand? And then they say
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what about the vaccines? Like do I know people who
had a bad response, who were laid up for a week,
or whose arms swelled up or not necessarily who died?
And they're saying like, why would I get this? And
I think, really, that's where we are. And there's just
these sort of weird pockets of the governments and the
educational system into some extent, you know, the medical system
that haven't caught up with where everyone is right now. Yeah,
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And Alex, I think speaking to that in particular, you
were one of the first that I remember talking about
the data on kids getting COVID shots, and the Washington
Post had like a really upset article. I'm sure you
read it three or four days ago, and I'll hit
the stats for everybody out there. Ninety five percent nationwide
of parents of six month old to five year olds
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are not getting them the shot. That is, only five
percent are. And the numbers I think have stunned some
of the so called health experts, But to me that
that's clear evidence of how people are voting. Parents might
take risks more so with their own health, but when
it comes to their young kids, they're much more risk averse,
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and they're overwhelmingly voting no on the COVID shot for
young kids. Yes, you're absolutely And funny you mentioned, because
I'm writing a substack about that right now. But the
Washingtons story got me to look at the numbers again myself, um,
because you know, it's pretty stunning actually, that it's so overwhelming, uh,
that that even the Washington Post has taken notice, and
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that you know, the lead on my story is Ted
Cruz one Elmo zero because I don't know if you remember,
but oh yeah, the sesame Street battle, yeah right, and
and crews said what you know, what are they doing?
And it was, oh, Ted Cruz, you know, hate your
kids and you can Elmo, well parents, Apparently Saturday Night
Live did a skid making fun of him, but he
was right, Yes, that's right, right, he was. He was right.
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And it's even worse from the vaccine advocates point of
view than you're saying, because ninety three percent of parents
have not gotten their kids even one shot. But then
when you look at the seven percent who have I'm
talking about in the under five, eighty percent of those
parents I haven't gotten their kids a second shot. So
when you look at the n of kids who are
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fully vaccinated against COVID who are under five, it's less
than two percent of all children in that age rine.
It's unbelievable. What a rejection. And so when you read
that Washington Post story is I guess you know as
you guys have. It's interesting because the vaccine advocates are like, oh,
we didn't, we didn't let parents know that this was available.
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We didn't. Oh yeah, that's such nonsense. It's just a lie.
You couldn't go anywhere in June without hearing about this. Alex.
We have to ask you also about this, this idea
of negative efficacy when it comes to infection for young people.
How solid. Is the data on this? Where is this? Essentially?
Is there real data right now to suggest that people
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who are I think it was was it under twelves
who got the shot were more likely to be reinfected
with COVID? That was the preprint study. Can you just
tell us where does that stand? No, it's extremely solid,
and it's really not just under twelve. It's just you
know that that the study with under twelves um has
you know, they extended the timeline out far enough to
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catch the fall into negative EFFORCA. But if you look
at uh, you know, data on older people, it's it's
the same thing. So so with omicron, it's quite clear
that after after a couple of months, the vaccine really
stops being protective at all. And then it looks like
after a couple months after that, your risk of infection
actually rises. Another you have a bigger risk of being
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infected if you are vaccinated then if you're not. And
and they're like, there's you know, there's ways to explain
that that don't involve actual like biological changes of the
vaccine is making in you. For example, you know, the
vaccine advocates to say, oh, that's because people who are vaccinated,
know they're vaccinated, and they take more risks, but that's
probably not true. The reality is the vaccine basically cause
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the original version of it, which is what you have
to get, even if you're getting this you know, quote
un bivalent booster, the original version of it causes your
body to make anybodies that are not really good against
the omicron spike, and so over time, as your overall
number of anybodies wayes, you here to be left with
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some that actually increase the risk of your infections. It
gets complicated to details, but that's the top line. The
top line is that data is probably correct and you're
probably now at higher risk of omicron infection if you're vaccinated.
Then if not so is essentially this is just going
to go away and people going to pretend that this
whole thing never happened in your mind now because clearly
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kids are not getting these shots. There's no mandates now.
Even aggressive cities like New York are doing away with
much of their private vaccine mandate. It seems like Biden
wants to claim the pandemics over because he needs to
have something that he can claim he didn't screw up,
Like where are we in your mind with these COVID shots,
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I think so, I think that's correct. UM. I mean,
the only sort of the black swan would be if
a new variant comes out that is actually quite dangerous,
and then the negative effortacy will really matter. M. But
you know your your listeners, and you may recall that
I was sort of harping on that a little bit
more three or four months ago, and and it seems
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like that's less of a risk now. It seems that
omicron is just is just dominant and UM and and
omicron is just not that dangerous to almost everybody, and
so everybody's gotten it. A lot of people have gotten
it more than once. UM, you know. And and the
other thing that's happened is if you look at what's
what are called anti and the antibodies, So that's a
different part of the virus m which are very durable
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and which the vaccine does not cause you to make.
You can only get those after being infected and recovering. UM.
The levels of those in the population are now very high,
so that's actually probably protective as well. Whatever happens to
the spike. We all have these anti and antibodies help us,
and there was a period of time when I was
worried that the vaccine would actually interfere with the generation
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of those But it looks like the vaccine ultimately proved
so useless against amicron that you get it and you
get these anti antibodies, and that's good. So so so,
just to bring this full circle, the vaccines, we're so
crappy that the good news is that people got COVID
anyway and now have natural immunity. Don't I get that right? You?
Basically that's correct. That is that's a piece I really
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need to write to the stack. But yes, that's basically
what has happened in the last six months. That's amazing.
Alex Barrens and everybody go check out his sub stack
at Clay and I are subscribers. It's been fantastic and
he's continued to work on this and it's not it's
not over. If you listen to Biden administration, they're still
pushing it. Fauci's pushing it to Alex. Thank you so
much man. As always, we appreciate you a great pleasure. Guys.
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clay An buck We Clay and I both had the
same reaction from our discussion just there with Alex Barrenson
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about this, which is we may in fact be at
a point now. Really it hit me. It's so the
good news about the vaccines is that they were so
ineffective at stopping the spread that it almost created a placebo,
or it created a psychological barrier for people to think
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that everything was going to be fine while everybody basically
got COVID, That's what he was saying, and the natural
immunity will be more durable from it. And the reason
COVID's not as big a deal now is because so
many people. I would remind everybody, the number in I
think it was last February from the CDC was like
eighty percent of the country had gotten COVID. So that's
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and that was I think probably a lowes we've basically
gotten to a point now where everyone more or less
got COVID. And because the spread of COVID was so
fast and spread so relentlessly during the pandemic. Anyway, we
now basically have hurt immunity. So so we got to
hurt immunity just with the most unnecessary fauciite madness and
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political division and pandemic of the unvaccinated, et cetera, et cetera.
Masking up like imbeciles possible. Yes, it's kind of wild
to think about it. You summed it up there at
the end with Barnson. I thought, pretty well, which is well,
thank you. The vaccines worked so horribly that basically everybody
ended up getting COVID, but the people who were terrified
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of COVID were so convinced early on that their vaccines
worked that they got back to normal. And I mean,
I mean, it is kind it is kind of wild
to think about. This is one of those things, Buck,
where I wouldn't want to live forever. I wouldn't want
to be immortal, but I would like to because I'm
a history nerd, be able to come back and read
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hundreds of years from now, how this is all going
to be covered, so Clay, as you know, we have,
we have quite a reach here, and we also like
a lot of the same shows. Did you ever watch
Charles in Charge growing up? Because I watched Charles in Charge. Oh,
of course, I watched every nineteen eighties show. I bring
it up because we were talking about the dysfunction in
Sherman Oaks, California and Charles from Charles in Charge, a
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show that you and I watched countless hours of. Scott Bayo,
the actor has called in to tell us, apparently about
what's going on in Sherman Oaks. Scott, thanks for the ring.
We appreciate it. Yeah, you're welcome. I was listening to
you guys there earlier, as I do most mornings, and
you know that I don't want people to think that
that was a one off that situation, because I don't.
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I live a couple of miles from there, and it
is finitely worse than what that guy is talking about.
I mean, it's it's everywhere out here in the San
Francis What, Scott, what kind of stuff are you seeing?
I see people, you know, when I drive with my kid,
I gotta I gotta turn her head away. She's fourteen.
As I said, people defecating on the sidewalk, you see
(35:16):
people in parts shooting up, there's people passed out, uh everywhere. Um,
and it's not and I mean, and it's not like
it's not isolated, it's it's all over the place. And
I'm and I'm about ready to get out of the state.
Uh So you know, just so you guys know that
that it's no joke out here. When did it start, Scott,
Because I spent a lot of time in la too,
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and this is awesome that you're calling in. But was
there a moment in time when you noticed, hey, this
has gotten out of control. I'd say in the past.
The past. I think probably since Governor Newsom it's really
gotten bad. Um and maybe a little before that, so
maybe four or five years ago. It's it's just it's
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out of control, guys. And listen, I'm here. I've been
here for forty five almost fifty years. I've seen this
place go from an absolute paradise to a cesspool. Yeah,
they should make a show called Nusom in Charge where
he manages to destroy one of the greatest states in
the entire country. Scott, beyo, everybody, Scott, thank you so
much for calling him. Man. We are honored that you
are a listener. Thank you very much. God bless you guys.
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Thank you. That is phenomenal. Buck And also remember Scott
Bayo got the name dropping Bill Maher the clip that
we played over the weekend. I think that is phenomenal
when we come back. What is not phenomenal Stacy Abrahams.
Maybe the dumbest thing she's done since her campaign started.
You won't believe what it was. We'll tell you next
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
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name Clay Travis, you can starch out buck Sexton. We
are joined now by Ohio senate candidate, best selling author
jd Vance. JD you've been feuding with Tim Ryan. Unbelieved
I saw this story. I couldn't believe it. Over who
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likes Ohio State football more? Now, you know, I'm a
pretty big college football fan. I didn't anticipate this being
a major brew haha, so to speak. But I think
it probably speaks the desperation that Tim Ryan is phil
feeling that he's trying to make this an issue. The
campaign's going pretty well, right, Yeah, it's definitely going well.
(01:06):
And it's one of these weird issues where, you know,
reminds me a couple of years ago, where like every
liberal Hollywood got really into the NFL because they put
in racism in the end zone. He did this weird
thing where he obsessed for two weeks about the fact
that Trump was holding a rally, which of course I
was going to because it was in the state, while
during an Ohio States football game, and by the way,
(01:28):
it was it was Ohio State Toledo. I think at
Ohio State scored like basketball team level numbers against Filio.
I was not exactly worried. It's not the biggest game
of the year for the Black Eyes. I think it's
fair to say, yeah, exactly. But the hilarious thing is
it turns out he was not watching the game either,
and so he had his staff live tweeting the game
as if it was him. But he was at somebody's wedding,
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so you know, who cares like he goes to a wedding,
no one would make an issue out of it. But
he decided to make an issue out of this football game,
even though he was being hypocritical. It's sort of a
good illustration of his entire campaign, which is a bit
of a bit of a cluster a JD. It's Buck,
we were just talking about the crime issue and i'd
seen when was this just to make sure I'm giving yeah, Oh,
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just today that Columbus, Ohio, for example, has already passed
one hundred homicides. It's a little later, two months later
than the record year of homicides they had last year.
Ohio statewide and its major cities, how is it doing
when it comes to crime and what are some of
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the progressive prosecutors pushing in those cities. You know, we
talked about Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago, Illinois. What's going on in
Ohio crime wise? Well, it's not good, Buck, So we
definitely have a crime problem in Ohio. If you look
at some of our biggest cities, you know we have
we have violent crime rates that rivals some third world countries.
And you know, everybody thinks about Chicago, New York, in
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San Francisco, but there are some cities in Ohio that
are doing very poorly. And you're right to ask about
the pro secus because the thing they're really doing is
it's actually not just the prosecutors, but it's a lot
of the very activist local judges here. The police officers.
I've heard them say they bring a guy who carjacked
a woman at eight in the morning, and instead of
arresting while, they arrest the person, but instead of putting
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that person in jail, the judges will let them out.
They will so call divert them from the traditional criminal
justice system, and then the copts will arrest the same
person the same day, committing the same violent crime. And
that's happening all over the state of Ohio. And again,
this is just a straightforward policy choice. If you look
at the statistics, you guys, it's a very consistent story
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that a substantial share of the violent crime is committed
by a handful of people. So this decision to just
let violent criminals maraud around our streets is very very
directly causing this. And if we just accept that some people,
you know what, they need to spend some time in prison,
we could deal with a lot of this problem. JD.
When you look at and talk to people on this,
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you've been all over Ohio, Buck and I have been
saying it's inflation, slash the economy, it's the border, and
it's crime. Does that overwhelmingly reflect what you are hearing
from your constituents in Ohio about their biggest concerns it is.
I mean, those are definitely the top three issues, and
you know, you hear about them in different ways, but
definitely those are the things that dominate people's minds. I
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will say that a lot of people, you know, I
might add to that, they're they're just sick of being
told what they're allowed to say and what they're allowed
to think. A lot of people in Ohio, obviously, I
mean not just Ohio, all across the country headed back
to school in the last couple of weeks, and so
I think the fact that too many schools are in
the game of indoctrinating kids instead of educating kids is
coming back to the forefront of parents' minds. They're very
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worried about the quality of the education their kids are getting.
There have been a couple of little rumors about you know,
COVID policy getting a little crazy, some schools remasking and
so forth. So I think the school issue remains a
big issue, and I think it's you know, a lot
of people for got about it because we've just had
this very long political summer. But as people get back
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to the cadence of normal life, I suspect the school
issue is going to be top of mind come November
as well. Speaking of JD Vance, he is running for
Senate in Ohio. J D what would be your top priorities?
I mean, obviously, with Joe Biden still in office, getting
any laws passed would be very difficult. But we're going
to be in a presidential election cycle as soon as
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the midterm cycle ends, you know, finishes up, so the
policies that are put forward by the GOP will be
essentially on the ballot in twenty twenty four. What do
you think is critical to get done? I mean, what
are some of the things legislatively that you would want
a spearhead? Well, look, I think we could close the border.
You know, Biden knows that this is politically and popular.
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I think that he'd probably like an exit ramp, especially
as he heads into a presidential election year. Of course,
if they let him run in the first place. But
I think, you know, we could actually say, look, you're
not gonna get a dollar of your priorities if you
don't actually enforce the border, build the border wall and
allow the border patrol agents to do what they do best,
which is keep us safe. I also think that you
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cheer point about him vetoing laws. You know, we should
actually propose legislation and let him be to this stuff. Right,
Do some things that are politically popular, that are good
for the country, that are consistent with our values, and
force Joe Biden to say no to it, so that
when we run in twenty four, whether it's Trump or
to Stand or whoever else, we actually have a set
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of priorities. It's not just Biden to the bad president.
You know, seventy percent of the country agrees with that,
But here are a series of Republican proposals where if
we take the country in a different direction, this will
affirmatively become law and make your life better. A big
part of that, obviously, JD, is that Tim Ryan has
tried to claim that he is a moderate and independent
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voice while at the same time supporting virtually everything that
Joe Biden advocates for. What about that appeal is that
having success in convincing people that he is a moderate
or are most people seeing through it and recognizing that
essentially he's a rubber stamp for everything that Joe Biden
wanted to get done. I think most people see through it.
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In sort of our job over the next fifty days
is to make sure everybody sees through it, because you're
exactly right. It's an incredible contrast between the DC liberal
Tim Ryan, who votes for open borders, who votes to
let violent criminals out of prison, who votes to crush
the Ohio energy economy, which is one of the things
driving inflation, and then the totally reasonable guy that comes
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on these TV commercials and runs away from every single
position where he's taken a vote, even a couple of
years ago. I mean, even the student debt issue, right,
not a very popular thing. I think a deeply unfair
thing that Joe Biden did and probably illegal. Tim Ryan
voted for a more generous version of student debt relief
and then comes around and says, well, I don't actually
like what Joe Biden is doing. Well, the reason you
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say you don't like it is because you know it's
not going to get you elected to the Senate. But look,
the guy's record is the guy's record, and it's impossible
for him to run away from it. We've started to
hammer him on the airwaves to let people know that
the fake moderate they see in these TV commercials is
not the real DC Tim Ryan. We're gonna keep on
doing that, and I think it's already had a big effect.
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I think it'll continue to have a big effect through
the election. So I feel good about our race. And
I think you know, those of your listeners who are
in Ohio, just let your friends know, let your family know.
This is this guy's not a moderate, he's not a conservative.
He is a very radical rubber stamp for Joe Biden
Nancy Pelosi. And of course, if people have resources, they
can go to JD vance dot com donates to the
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campaign and help us fund some of these advertisements that
get that message out. JD. We've got a lot of
people listening across Ohio, including an our affiliate whlo Am
in the Cleveland Akron area, and so they can go
to your side. As you said, I'm just wondering, are
you getting the same kind of dodging the question or
dodging the debate treatment with Ryan that we've seen start
(09:05):
to It's just becoming obvious right in another races, Cortes
Mastow in Nevada is not really willing to face the
press or square off against Adam Laxalt. Clearly, Fetterman to
your east there, Fetterman and Oz Fetterman's trying to avoid
that letter. I mean, so are we seeing the same
thing with Tim Ryan. You said that he's misrepresenting himself,
(09:27):
But is he also trying to pull a hide in
the basement and hope the press carries the water form routine.
What's going on? Well, you know, Feederman is of course
the most well spoken of the Democrats, so os has
to be careful there. But you know, in our race
in Ohio, we really want to debate, and we think,
we think that we are going to have debates. Now
here's the deal. We've accepted a couple of debates, and
(09:48):
you know, a couple of media organizations said we'd like
to host these debates. Our campaign went out immediately and said, okay,
those are the two debates that will do. Now, the
only debate that Tim Ryan has said he wants to
do is one foot On by the Debate Commission. And
that may sound like a nonpartisan organization, but as we
found out a couple of days ago, the Ohio Debate
Commission the leader is a literal Tim Ryan. Donner like
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she's written checks to Tim Ryan. She was on the
board of Planned Parenthood, but she's basically an activist organization,
and so the debate we're having here in Ohio is, yes,
we'll do the debate, but we're not doing it with
a partisan democratic organization. We'll do it with nonpartisan media organizations.
And I think you know, our message to Tim Ryan
has been, look, you know, I guarantee he's seeing the
same thing in his internal numbers that we're seeing in ours.
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He needs the debates more than we do, and so
I hope will accept. I mean claim we've got people
on w KRC and Cincinnati WTAM in Cleveland WHLO, and
Acron WTVN in Columbus, Toledo, Ohio WSPD. I mean they
can make a big difference here. I think everyone needs
to understand they can make the difference in this race. No,
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in many of those markets, we are number one in
the entire market right now, so JD, I hope they're
listening and hope they're enjoying this. One of the things
that stood out and we went after Tim Ryan for
this was he essentially said he supports abortion all the
way through nine months. And obviously many different states are
coming to many different laws as it pertains to that.
(11:14):
Are you finding that most Ohioans JD find Tim Ryan's
position of abortion all the way through nine months is
a radical proposition. Yeah. Absolutely, And look, I'm pro life,
and I recognize, you know, different people are going to
draw the line, maybe differently from what I would like
to do, but pretty much all of us can agree
that you should not have taxpayer funded elective abortion at
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forty weeks, right. You can't use you can't use abortion
as birth control, especially that late in pregnancy. And Tim
Ryan has repeatedly voted for legislation that not only would
allow it nationwide, would invalidate any restriction on abortion nationwide,
but would also force Ohio taxpayers to foot the bill.
It's really a testament to how crazy the Democrats have
(11:59):
gotten on the issue. If you look across the world, Scandinavia,
Western Europe, these are typically considered pretty far less societies.
You know, they typically banned abortion after twelve to fifteen weeks.
The only countries that allow NonStop abortion on demand up
to the moment of birth are North Korea and China. Like,
I don't want to join that club. I guess we're
(12:20):
already in that club, but I don't want to be
part of that club. Anymore. And again, I think it
just shows Tim Ryan's really out of step here and
people ask, well, why does he take such radical positions
that the answer is actually really simple because the activists
that fund his campaign. The reason why he has all
these TV commercials saying that he's a moderate is because
these activists put a lot of money into his race,
and he knows if he crosses these people, he's gonna
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have to run on his own record and he's gonna lose. JD. Vance,
he's gonna win be the next senator from Ohio. You
can give him your support. Kevis that website one more time. JD. Yeah,
that's jd vance dot com. Appreciate everything, Appreciate what you
guys are doing, and everybody in Ohio, let's get out
and vote on November eight. Thanks JD and Clay. We're
thinking he's gonna win. He's gotta win by a lot, though, folks.
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It's got to send a message. Can't be close. Get
out there, help him, amen, and hopefully the Buckeyes will
continue to win. So Tim Ryan, I'll have something to
talk about. We'll talk more about some of the craziness
that's going on. We got to play this clip for
you of Stacy Abrahams at some point this hour or
next hour, buck about sonograms and heartbeats, and I mean
(13:27):
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fouch behind closed doors when he's telling on TV, you
really want a double mask and goggles. I'm not making
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that up. They talked about goggles and Brian told us this,
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then taking it off to sit down and eat is
the single dumbest thing that has ever existed in American
public policy, in any of our lives. Evidently he was
making fun of it behind the scenes, but I can't
tell you how infuriating I found that. For years, I
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and some people go to cabarets at night. All these
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(16:05):
put a mask on for the walk to sit down outside,
as if that was going to and she was one
hundred percent serious. Buck. I landed in Las Vegas at
like nine thirty one night and my wife and I
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remember this, We talked about the show at midnight you
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turned into a pulp the switch and everybody had to
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this actually here's found you. What was it yesterday? Just
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things like that. That is as unrealistic in many respects
as the craziness of people who want to decapitate me
(17:30):
because I'm I'm ruining the economy. Can First of all,
no one, I don't know what the decapitation thing, the
victim nonsense he's trying to pull here, Clay, he posed
for the covers of magazine while people's grandparents were dying
and weren't allowed to see their family members because at
the risk of COVID at twenty five year old. He's
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Buck Sex and Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us Thursday, rolling and the first day of fall.
I guess right, Buck, As we are pivoting into the fall,
we bring on now, Alex Berenson, it's cold and flu season.
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Fouci's gearing up Fall is here, Alex. I want to
start with this because we've been having fun with it
and I know you're going to take it to a
dark place eventually with all the results that are coming
in unfortunately from these these COVID shots. So what is
your reaction to reports that Fauci would regularly mock the
restaurant restrictions that you would have to wear a mask
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until you got seated, and also that he said privately
I could get people to believe they need to do
anything when he was talking about wearing goggles and double
and triple masking. I mean, does it make you hate
him even more? Uh? You know, I'd actually be glad
if that's true. I know this is from this this
Trump tell all right? This yeah, Brian Morgan's and we
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had him on the show yesterday talking about it. I mean,
because then at least he'd be in on the joke
a little bit, and he's not a complete idiot, So
those are choices, like to be that, like, I guess
I'd rather believe that he's like a cynical you know,
you know what, than like he's just a moron who
actually believed the idea that masking while you're walking to
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the table and not masking while you're eating made any sense.
But those are really are choices, right, He's either a
full or a cynic alex. The latest on the vaccines?
What do we need to know about? First of all,
there are places Smith College place. I actually spent a
lot of time when I was in college. I know
it pretty well. It's it is. It has been an
insane asylum in a lot of ways for a long
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time on a whole bunch of issues. But Smith College,
I think, is requiring the most up to date vaccination.
Why is it? I mean we were asking questions six seven,
eight months ago now, like, hey, how affect They keep
saying it's so effective at preventing death. But then we
started to see these numbers out even though it at
high risk that most of the people who were dying
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on a monthly basis in this country were vaccinated like,
how do we how do we disentangle the efficacy component
before we talk about the side effect component. Well, I mean,
so look, we're we're at this interesting place. There's been
a I mean, the vaccines are now rejected I think,
I mean, I think almost nobody with the choice is
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getting this by val and Booster, and you know, to
to you know, I don't want to, I don't want
to like to depend too much on my anecdote here,
but I think I've mentioned my mother a couple of
times on the show in the past, and she, uh,
you know, she's an MSNBC watcher and refers to Anti
Faschy as America's doctor without um uh, you know, without irony.
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Gotta be a fun Thanksgiving and she and she is
probably or at least seriously considering not getting the gift shot.
And so, you know, I think even for people, you know,
she's had COVID a couple of times, she's gotten her fine,
you know, her for shots. You know, even somebody, even
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people who are predisposed to believe everything that they've been
told for the last two years now understand that the
vaccine is not protective against infection or transmission. And I
and people. You know, look, people are looking around and seeing,
you know, we're two plus years into this. Who do
I know who's gotten really sick from COVID? Who do
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I know who's died from COVID? Who wasn't eighty five
years old or four hundred pounds? And for most people,
almost everybody to answer that question is nobody. I don't
know anybody who who you know, who for whom this
was a serious disease, Who wasn't you know who wasn't
sick in some profound way beforehand? And then they say
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what about the vaccines? Like do I know people who
had a bad response, who were laid up for a week,
or whose arms swelled up or not necessarily who died?
And they're saying like, why would I get this? And
I think, really, that's where we are. And there's just
these sort of weird pockets of the governments and the
educational system into some extent, you know, the medical system
that haven't caught up with where everyone is right now. Yeah,
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And Alex, I think speaking to that in particular, you
were one of the first that I remember talking about
the data on kids getting COVID shots, and the Washington
Post had like a really upset article. I'm sure you
read it three or four days ago, and I'll hit
the stats for everybody out there. Ninety five percent nationwide
of parents of six month old to five year olds
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are not getting them the shot. That is, only five
percent are. And the numbers I think have stunned some
of the so called health experts, But to me that
that's clear evidence of how people are voting. Parents might
take risks more so with their own health, but when
it comes to their young kids, they're much more risk averse,
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and they're overwhelmingly voting no on the COVID shot for
young kids. Yes, you're absolutely And funny you mentioned, because
I'm writing a substack about that right now. But the
Washingtons story got me to look at the numbers again myself, um,
because you know, it's pretty stunning actually, that it's so overwhelming, uh,
that that even the Washington Post has taken notice, and
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that you know, the lead on my story is Ted
Cruz one Elmo zero because I don't know if you remember,
but oh yeah, the sesame Street battle, yeah right, and
and crews said what you know, what are they doing?
And it was, oh, Ted Cruz, you know, hate your
kids and you can Elmo, well parents, Apparently Saturday Night
Live did a skid making fun of him, but he
was right, Yes, that's right, right, he was. He was right.
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And it's even worse from the vaccine advocates point of
view than you're saying, because ninety three percent of parents
have not gotten their kids even one shot. But then
when you look at the seven percent who have I'm
talking about in the under five, eighty percent of those
parents I haven't gotten their kids a second shot. So
when you look at the n of kids who are
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fully vaccinated against COVID who are under five, it's less
than two percent of all children in that age rine.
It's unbelievable. What a rejection. And so when you read
that Washington Post story is I guess you know as
you guys have. It's interesting because the vaccine advocates are like, oh,
we didn't, we didn't let parents know that this was available.
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We didn't. Oh yeah, that's such nonsense. It's just a lie.
You couldn't go anywhere in June without hearing about this. Alex.
We have to ask you also about this, this idea
of negative efficacy when it comes to infection for young people.
How solid. Is the data on this? Where is this? Essentially?
Is there real data right now to suggest that people
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who are I think it was was it under twelves
who got the shot were more likely to be reinfected
with COVID? That was the preprint study. Can you just
tell us where does that stand? No, it's extremely solid,
and it's really not just under twelve. It's just you
know that that the study with under twelves um has
you know, they extended the timeline out far enough to
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catch the fall into negative EFFORCA. But if you look
at uh, you know, data on older people, it's it's
the same thing. So so with omicron, it's quite clear
that after after a couple of months, the vaccine really
stops being protective at all. And then it looks like
after a couple months after that, your risk of infection
actually rises. Another you have a bigger risk of being
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infected if you are vaccinated then if you're not. And
and they're like, there's you know, there's ways to explain
that that don't involve actual like biological changes of the
vaccine is making in you. For example, you know, the
vaccine advocates to say, oh, that's because people who are vaccinated,
know they're vaccinated, and they take more risks, but that's
probably not true. The reality is the vaccine basically cause
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the original version of it, which is what you have
to get, even if you're getting this you know, quote
un bivalent booster, the original version of it causes your
body to make anybodies that are not really good against
the omicron spike, and so over time, as your overall
number of anybodies wayes, you here to be left with
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some that actually increase the risk of your infections. It
gets complicated to details, but that's the top line. The
top line is that data is probably correct and you're
probably now at higher risk of omicron infection if you're vaccinated.
Then if not so is essentially this is just going
to go away and people going to pretend that this
whole thing never happened in your mind now because clearly
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kids are not getting these shots. There's no mandates now.
Even aggressive cities like New York are doing away with
much of their private vaccine mandate. It seems like Biden
wants to claim the pandemics over because he needs to
have something that he can claim he didn't screw up,
Like where are we in your mind with these COVID shots,
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I think so, I think that's correct. UM. I mean,
the only sort of the black swan would be if
a new variant comes out that is actually quite dangerous,
and then the negative effortacy will really matter. M. But
you know your your listeners, and you may recall that
I was sort of harping on that a little bit
more three or four months ago, and and it seems
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like that's less of a risk now. It seems that
omicron is just is just dominant and UM and and
omicron is just not that dangerous to almost everybody, and
so everybody's gotten it. A lot of people have gotten
it more than once. UM, you know. And and the
other thing that's happened is if you look at what's
what are called anti and the antibodies, So that's a
different part of the virus m which are very durable
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and which the vaccine does not cause you to make.
You can only get those after being infected and recovering. UM.
The levels of those in the population are now very high,
so that's actually probably protective as well. Whatever happens to
the spike. We all have these anti and antibodies help us,
and there was a period of time when I was
worried that the vaccine would actually interfere with the generation
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of those But it looks like the vaccine ultimately proved
so useless against amicron that you get it and you
get these anti antibodies, and that's good. So so so,
just to bring this full circle, the vaccines, we're so
crappy that the good news is that people got COVID
anyway and now have natural immunity. Don't I get that right? You?
Basically that's correct. That is that's a piece I really
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need to write to the stack. But yes, that's basically
what has happened in the last six months. That's amazing.
Alex Barrens and everybody go check out his sub stack
at Clay and I are subscribers. It's been fantastic and
he's continued to work on this and it's not it's
not over. If you listen to Biden administration, they're still
pushing it. Fauci's pushing it to Alex. Thank you so
much man. As always, we appreciate you a great pleasure. Guys.
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is now out there. The left wing media is pushing
this idea. They're saying there is no such thing as
fetal heartbeat. Really, it's a made up it's a conspiracy.
I'm not making this up. The same people who rely
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on planned parenthood and the massive abortion industrial complex to
lie to expectant mother is constantly about what's really going
on in their wounds. They want abortion all nine months
of a pregnancy. We talk about issues, we talk about
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clay An buck We Clay and I both had the
same reaction from our discussion just there with Alex Barrenson
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about this, which is we may in fact be at
a point now. Really it hit me. It's so the
good news about the vaccines is that they were so
ineffective at stopping the spread that it almost created a placebo,
or it created a psychological barrier for people to think
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that everything was going to be fine while everybody basically
got COVID, That's what he was saying, and the natural
immunity will be more durable from it. And the reason
COVID's not as big a deal now is because so
many people. I would remind everybody, the number in I
think it was last February from the CDC was like
eighty percent of the country had gotten COVID. So that's
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and that was I think probably a lowes we've basically
gotten to a point now where everyone more or less
got COVID. And because the spread of COVID was so
fast and spread so relentlessly during the pandemic. Anyway, we
now basically have hurt immunity. So so we got to
hurt immunity just with the most unnecessary fauciite madness and
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political division and pandemic of the unvaccinated, et cetera, et cetera.
Masking up like imbeciles possible. Yes, it's kind of wild
to think about it. You summed it up there at
the end with Barnson. I thought, pretty well, which is well,
thank you. The vaccines worked so horribly that basically everybody
ended up getting COVID, but the people who were terrified
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of COVID were so convinced early on that their vaccines
worked that they got back to normal. And I mean,
I mean, it is kind it is kind of wild
to think about. This is one of those things, Buck,
where I wouldn't want to live forever. I wouldn't want
to be immortal, but I would like to because I'm
a history nerd, be able to come back and read
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hundreds of years from now, how this is all going
to be covered, so Clay, as you know, we have,
we have quite a reach here, and we also like
a lot of the same shows. Did you ever watch
Charles in Charge growing up? Because I watched Charles in Charge. Oh,
of course, I watched every nineteen eighties show. I bring
it up because we were talking about the dysfunction in
Sherman Oaks, California and Charles from Charles in Charge, a
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show that you and I watched countless hours of. Scott Bayo,
the actor has called in to tell us, apparently about
what's going on in Sherman Oaks. Scott, thanks for the ring.
We appreciate it. Yeah, you're welcome. I was listening to
you guys there earlier, as I do most mornings, and
you know that I don't want people to think that
that was a one off that situation, because I don't.
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I live a couple of miles from there, and it
is finitely worse than what that guy is talking about.
I mean, it's it's everywhere out here in the San
Francis What, Scott, what kind of stuff are you seeing?
I see people, you know, when I drive with my kid,
I gotta I gotta turn her head away. She's fourteen.
As I said, people defecating on the sidewalk, you see
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people in parts shooting up, there's people passed out, uh everywhere. Um,
and it's not and I mean, and it's not like
it's not isolated, it's it's all over the place. And
I'm and I'm about ready to get out of the state.
Uh So you know, just so you guys know that
that it's no joke out here. When did it start, Scott,
Because I spent a lot of time in la too,
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and this is awesome that you're calling in. But was
there a moment in time when you noticed, hey, this
has gotten out of control. I'd say in the past.
The past. I think probably since Governor Newsom it's really
gotten bad. Um and maybe a little before that, so
maybe four or five years ago. It's it's just it's
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out of control, guys. And listen, I'm here. I've been
here for forty five almost fifty years. I've seen this
place go from an absolute paradise to a cesspool. Yeah,
they should make a show called Nusom in Charge where
he manages to destroy one of the greatest states in
the entire country. Scott, beyo, everybody, Scott, thank you so
much for calling him. Man. We are honored that you
are a listener. Thank you very much. God bless you guys.
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Thank you. That is phenomenal. Buck And also remember Scott
Bayo got the name dropping Bill Maher the clip that
we played over the weekend. I think that is phenomenal
when we come back. What is not phenomenal Stacy Abrahams.
Maybe the dumbest thing she's done since her campaign started.
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