November 22, 2022 • 37 mins
Florida surgeon general, Dr. Joseph Ladapo, joins Clay and Buck to discuss how states can make better public health decisions in the future, particularly during a crisis, and his new book, Transcend Fear: A Blueprint for Mindful Leadership in Public Health. NHL Twitter account drops the gloves for transgenders. Hero military veteran Richard Fierro explains how he and another hero took down gunman at Colorado Springs gay nightclub. What happened in Paul Pelosi's home the night of the hammer attack? What is the most overrated Thanksgiving food? C&B read 24/7 VIP emails.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of Clay and Bucks starts right now. Everybody.
We have Florida Surgeon General, doctor Joseph Latipo with us. Now.
He's got a book out, Transcend Fear, a blueprint fund
blueprint for mindful leadership in public health, which been out
for a couple of months, Doctor Latipo. Honor to have
you on, sir. Thanks for making time for us. Hey,
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thanks for having me on. Happy to be with you
guys right before Thanksgiving, Yes, sir. And one thing we
are not thankful for is doctor Anthony Fauci's leadership during
the pandemic. You may have seen him giving his farewell
speech of sorts today from the White House. What is
I mean? You're a Harvard trained MD, You're the surgeon
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General of the state of Florida. You've looked at the
data for your state of over twenty million people extensively.
When doctor Fauci says that you should be proud to
mask up when you walk into places, that people should
consider masking, that they should all get the vaccine, that
the vaccine will keep anyone from dying. And there's a
whole lot more we could say. What do you say
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as a medical professional? I say that I am stunned
by doctor Fauci's inability to adapt to data. You know.
In his comments, he said something about how it's too
bad that people aren't getting these COVID nineteen vaccines, or
for the people who aren't, most people have, but for
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the people who aren't, he hates to see them get infected. Well,
then he really ought not want them to get because
as every as very plainly clear, their protection from infection
wanes rapidly. And that he's still not acknowledging that and
still playing mask, you know, charade mask. I don't know.
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Whatever this silly masquerade is with masks is just it's
a it's a testament of why he cannot leave fast enough.
Doctor A. Lattipo, appreciate you joining us. This is clay.
Doctor Fauci also said that he thinks people should test
for COVID before they get together with their friends and
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family for Thanksgiving. It is two days until Thanksgiving. I
can guarantee you that the Travis family will not be
testing before we have Thanksgiving dinner. You've got I think
two kids, maybe three will the Lattipo family. You are
obviously in a steam physician, will you be doing COVID
tests before you sit down for Thanksgiving dinner. The only
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thing is going to be tested this week is going
to be my patience because our three boys are going
to be running all around with you know, pumps full
of yummy pumpkin pie from my wife and all that
good stuff. You know, it's really sad. It's just a
he has a right to believe that, of course, but
it's just a testament to how sad his vision of
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life is. I mean, you can't just enjoy the beautiful
time with people you love and care about. You have
to think about testing and what maybe even masking or
who knows whatever whatever else he's suggesting before Thanksgiving. It's sad,
and yeah, I feel in someone. I feel bad for
him that that's how he sees Thanksgiving. I mean, it's sad.
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Speaking of Florida, certain general doctor Latipo and his book
has Transcend Fear, a Blueprint for Mindful Leadership in Public Health.
Factor Latipo have a lot of doctors come forward. I mean,
I would assume it's easier for them in Florida than
it is in other places. I'm in Florida right now
and said that they're going to stand against some of
the madness that they're not going to pretend like the
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establishment experts got everything right and that we should all
still go into every hospital with a little cloth mask
on all the time and all this stuff. I mean,
have you seen a change in the mentality of a
lot of your fellow physicians over let's say the last
year or so, as we've really seen everything that we
were told by the Fauci apparatus and the Biden administration
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just not actually happen. I mean, everything fell apart. I'm
going to give you what I think might be a
surprising answer, and that answer is no. And what the
reason it's know is because it's not new. Most of
the doctors over the past year who have opposed these policies,
they haven't changed. They've known that we've done many trials
of masks and they just have generally not been effective.
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They've known that the vaccines aren't doing a good job
at preventing infection, but they are afraid to speak because
of the repercussions. And that's really the issue. That's what's
behind it, and there are consequences and it's it's a
very real thing. You've got boards of medicine trying to
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strip doctors of their license, not because of anything they
did with their clinical care, but because they said the
quote unquote wrong thing on Facebook or Twitter. And that's
the reality. That's the reality that physicians are living with.
I'm sure you're familiar with the California law that was
passed restricting essentially threatening to punish doctors for saying the
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wrong things about one specific issue, which is COVID nineteen.
So unfortunately, no, people's opinions haven't changed, but even more unfortunately,
a lot of doctors who are totally opposed to what
doctor Fauchisman saying are still afraid to speak up. Doctor Latipo,
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I'm sure you have seen speaking on that fear. California
has tried to pass a law, and you moved from
California to the Free State of Florida, if I remember correctly,
California is trying to pass a law that could create
consequences for medical professionals who speak out against whatever the
preferred sciences at the moment. I'm just curious in general.
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You probably remember when Fauci said, I am the science
isn't science about questioning everything? How quickly have we forgotten
that that's the prime mery goal of scientists is to
rigorously question everything lest you believe things that are untrue.
And how scary is it that we're trying to pass
laws now to essentially keep medical professionals from ever questioning
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the consensus opinion. Well, it's terrible. It's terrible, and that
is exactly I mean that is at the core of science,
is asking questions and debating and bringing evidence and seeing
how things shake out, being curious that those are core
tenets of science and they're things that motivated people like
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me and many other people to pursue science. And unfortunately,
what's happening in California is they're trying to rewrite reality
to match their dystopian fantasy. And that's essentially what's happening,
and hopefully people will just realize that it's total nonsense
that they're doing there. It's being a doctor Joseph Latipost,
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Surgeon General of the State of Florida, and doctor Latipo
if somebody was willing to let's say, somebody out there thinks,
you know, wearing two masks, because because Fauci says two
masks are great, it's going to keep them safe. But
they're at least willing to look at what data you
have access to say, when it came to mask mandates
in schools, we're two years into this, what could you
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point them to? What could you tell them about the
real numbers that you saw in Florida during now two
full years of data collection when it came to schools
that required masks versus schools that did not. The Florida
data has definitely been supportive of the fact that in
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schools these masks are doing basically nothing. And there are
other studies. There's a doctor in California, doctor Tracy Hog,
that sent a ton of research on masks. She's debunked
one of the CDC studies where the CDC reported that
the masks were effective when they compared a couple of
schools the stricks. But then she looked and found it
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basically actually, if you look further, they were only it
only looked that way because of the specific period of
time to the CDC. Look, why did they look during
that time? Only? Who knows? It's not that they were
trying to put their finger on the scale, is it? So?
It's really nonsense. The air goes around, guys, if you're
in a room, whether you wear the mask or not,
the air is coming out. And there's even a randomized
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clinical trial that shows harms, believe it or not, harms
associated with cloth masks and healthcare workers. So it's it's
it's just a total barrel of nonsense, just complete nonsense,
this mask obsession, and they cannot die soon enough. But
unfortunately many of my colleagues are trying to revive it
this winter. Yeah, and so that's the question that Buck
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and I have been asking, how does this end? And
that's the question we would ask Fauci if he would
ever come on with us. You're saying, hey, this holiday season,
I believe this is now the third Thanksgiving we've had
basically since COVID started. If I'm doing the math correctly,
Fauci saying, you still need to take a COVID test.
You should still be wearing masks. If you're doing this
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in year three of COVID, How does it ever end?
Will it ever end? And are you concerned? I think
you are, just based on the way that you answer
that question, doctor Latipo, that we can't just live and
let live, because the people who are still wearing masks,
if they could, would demand that all of us wear masks,
including two and three year olds, the minute that they
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have the power to do so well, You're you are
dead on there, There's no question about that. And I
think people first of all, I think people just need
to really be acquainted comfortable with the scientific data from
clinical trials. These these advocates always point to these observational
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studies of the CDC quotes, but clinical trials are really
the gold standard and these masks. Masks have done terrible
almost in all of these clinical trials. So people need
to feel comfortable first of all that they really, on
a scientific basis, they're doing little to nothing. And then
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the second part is just deciding that you're not going
to participate in these charades. And that's what needs to happen.
And I think if enough of us do that, they'll
they'll stop trying to work their weasel their way back
in with their mask recommendations which later become strong recommendations,
which later become mandates, and all the nonsense that we've
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seen over the past two years. Florida Certain General doctor
Latipo his book Transcend Fear at a Blueprint for Mindful
Leadership in Public Health. Doctor Latipo thanks for being with us. Okay,
thanks so much, guys. Happy Thanksgiving guys, you too, no doubt,
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. And thank goodness that
if you live in Florida you're still going to have
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some freedom. But think about how crazy this is. There
is no end to this COVID insanity, which is why
Buck and I continue to hammer it here because they're
coming for you. They're coming for you with masks, they're
coming for you with the vaccine mandates. As soon as
these things come up again in terms of cases, they
are going to chase you and they are going to
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Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck. I know you watched the
US soccer game with your brothers and the US managed
to choke away what should have been a win. You
were a soccer code coach in high school back in
the day. What did you think of the penalty kick
give up in the tie. I would have had very
harsh words for the defender who, for no good reason
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fouled Gareth Bale in the box from behind when he
would have had to make a turn at the whole
It was look, you know, you eat. Nerves are a
real thing at that level, even for the top pros.
And it looks like the guy just kind of freaked
out a little bit. It can happen. Um, you know,
it is what it is meant. This is why I
can't get too excited about US US men's soccer clay
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because they always just break my heart. Man, they always
just break my heart. Are they even gonna make it
out of the group? No? Does our audience care? Five percent? Maybe? So?
I think a huge percentage of our audience On Friday,
we'll be watching the USA against England because I think
everybody's gonna be Oh yeah, I think a huge percentage
because it's the day day after thank yeah. So you
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can let us know if you're actually watching or if
you think I'm crazy that a lot of you will
be watching. Um, but this ties in but cains wait
real quick, Wales, I mean, are we gonna lose two
or tie the island of like Palau or you know,
we Liechtenstein's got a kind of nasty front line. They're
gonna take us out. I'm sorry. It's Wales. No one
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even thinks it's a country. It's true all everything that
he just said. And I hope we don't have a
monster listenership right now in Wales. It's just losing their mind. Overseas.
They've been all in on everything we've set up till now,
and now they're just done with us. This ties in.
I'm gonna be up at the Big Game, as they
call it, and it should be pretty fantastic. Michigan against
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Ohio State part of the big noon Fox kickoff show
in Columbus, Ohio. We are number one, I believe in Columbus, Ohio,
so imagine a lot of Buckeye fans will be there
as well as Michigan Wolverines. But I saw this. This
literally has come out since we started the show. I
believe the NHL official Twitter account National Hockey League for
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those of you out there that are not big sports fans,
eated a couple of hours ago. Trans women are women,
trans men are men, non binary identity is real. Now,
whatever you think about this, I would just point out
that men can't get pregnant, and you are born with
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a penis or a vagina and that is your actual gender.
I would just point all this out as biological reality.
How is it that the NHL Twitter account has decided
that they need to weigh in on trans related issues?
And I'm now in a battle out there in the
world over and this has been going on for years.
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But I can't believe that anyone with a functional brain
buck would argue that a man should be able to
compete against a woman in women's sports just because the
man decided that he now identifies as a woman. I mean,
is the only way this happens. There's there's some true
believers for whom the wiring of their brain is just
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they're they're so flooded with the propaganda of the left,
and they're so desperate for acceptance by the leftist Marxist
elites that you know they actually believe this, Clay. But
I mean the vast majority of the people who go
I mean the ones who go along with this, I mean,
our audience sitting are saying, yeah, that's crazy. But the
people who go along with this, it's just cowardice that
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they just they don't want to be called the bigot.
They don't want to be told that they're anti trands
and all the rest of it. And so there are
just some of us. It falls upon some of us
to stand up and say, no, reality is a thing.
There are still some things that are true. No matter
how much it may hurt some people's feelings, or how
much it doesn't let themselves actualize or whatever, there are
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things that are true, and we refuse to let people
tell us they're not true, just because they really really
believe them. I think there's also if you're a sports
fan at all, and if you have kids and you've
ever participated in youth sports, the idea of men and
women being equal in sports is so absurdly ridiculous. Men
are bigger, stronger, and faster than women. You have weight
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classes in boxing, you have age limits in little league
right Like I've coached little league baseball. If I got
to play with an eighteen year old, our team would
be badass. The kid would hit a home run every
time he came up, if he was any good at all.
But that's not allowed. And if you tried to do that,
parents would revolt. What's happening is overwhelmingly if you have daughters,
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and you need to hear this, because it's happening at
some point over the next five to ten years. If
you are raising young girls, there is going to be
someone who identifies as a girl that is biologically male,
that is going to play in their district, in their school,
in their state, and it is going to fundamentally alter
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fair play because men and men are bigger, stronger, and
faster than women. And the fact that this isn't allowed
to be said is I think a testament to what
an absurdly up down world, upside down world we live in.
And it gets me so fired up every time it happens. Buck,
But the NHL putting this out there is frankly indefensible.
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mentioned the top of the show that there was a veteran,
Richard Fierro, who was able to help tackle and subdue
the mass murdering shooter at the Q nightclub over the weekend.
We actually have him explaining how he was able to
in Colorado's Springs tackle this shooter and in doing so,
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likely save save lives. There were five lives lost, but
it could have been as we know, many more based
on how many people were there and the situation the
circumstances they were playing out, But there were a couple
of heroes on the scene who stepped up and neutralize
the threat. Here is Army veteran Richard Fieriro explaining how
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he did what he did and how he stepped up
to say lives play Clip one. I saw the ACU
pattern flack best and for me that was like, there's
a handle, I'm getting him. So I ran across the room,
grabbed the handle, pulled him down, and then started to well,
actually I think I went for its gun with him.
His rifle flew in front of him, and the young
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man that tried to jump in there with me, he
we both either pulled him down or whatever, but he
ended up at his head and right next to the AAR,
and then with the aar he I told him, pushed
the aar, get the air away from him. The kid
pushed the r I don't know what his name was,
and then I proceeded to take his other weapon and
pistol and then just start hitting him at where I could,
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but the armor's in the way, and I just started
I found a crease in his between his armor and
his head, and I just started weighing away in doing so. Clay,
this guy, this guy saved live, stopped a mass shooting
in progress by grabbing the body armor of the shooter,
dragging him to the ground, and finding a place where
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he could pummel him with his bare hands. Good for him,
and I applaud and believe we should give attention to
all of the heroes who stop any sort of crimes
like these. Is it just me, Buck or does it
feel like this guy the shooter's name is being used
in the media much less. The reason why I bring
that up is the data reflects that many mass shooters
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are motivated by the fame and notoriety that they get
in media coverage, usually get front page profiles on their
whole family. And it feels to me like maybe the
lightbulb moment is going off and there's less attention now,
although maybe I'm gonna end up being wrong, but less
attention in terms of the name and the notoriety being
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given to these guys, because that, to me is the
one thing that those of us with big platforms can
work on. We try to do that on the show,
not publicize and make famous the shooters, and less there's
somebody that these are looking for. Hey, this person's on
the run. I think that's obviously a different scenario. But
in terms of a captured shooter, I don't think we
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should allow them to be famous. And so there's the
heroes who took down the shooter and save lives in
the process. We just heard from one of them, Richard Fierro,
their army veteran. You know, Clay that the politicization of this,
I know that it has now just become what we expect,
particularly from Democrats, when it fits a certain narrative. Immediately
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it turns into this crazy person did a thing and
it was awful and horrible. Therefore, because I don't like
your politics on some unrelated issues, you better bend the
knee and agree to do what we tell you to do,
or else you're the reason that this happened. I mean,
it's say, we talked about stochastic terrorism yesterday. Tucker mentioned
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it last night on his show as well the opening monologue,
and there really is this effort to try, you know,
to emotionally bludgeon people into submission on things that have
nothing to do with an actual act of violence like this,
and you know you're seeing you saw this on a
very different level. Obviously people no one lost their life.
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I mean, Paul Pelosi is fine, but even after the
Paul Pelosi assault, and I know there Look, here's an
outstanding question that has not been resolved about that, and
people have a lot of them. But there are two
different law enforcement agencies who have two different stated positions
on whether Paul Pelosi answered the door himself or not.
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That matters. It matters from a security review perspective, It
matters from it we should know all the facts and
the positioning of this perspective. The more we learned about
this guy do do Pay, for example, and this just
all goes to how violence the media will even it's
not just when it fits a narrative, they will mold
the narrative. They will form a narrative and then try
to use it for political purposes, explicitly political purposes. Do
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Pay was a guy who said he was Jesus, like
literally said he was Jesus, lived under a tree, thought
he was living in a computer simulation at one point,
was a nine to eleven truther. Um was was was
I think his like partner slash you know, girlfriend was
the nudest, but I think he went I'm not an
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expert on his nude practices, but I'm just saying, you know,
I think that she was more of the but I
mean he probably got did some nudity. Yeah, he's an
illegal alien, nudist, uh lunatic who thought he was Jesus,
lived under a tree, thought he was living a computer simulation.
If they weren't being honest, what they would do is
they would say, these have this is all the harm
hallmarks of somebody with extreme mental illness, likely an extreme
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level of schizophrenia or you know, some form of personality disorder.
And this is a guy who honestly should be in
a in a in a you know, mental health facility,
a criminal mental facility, but one where he's instead it's well,
you know he did this and Pizza gate qua non Trump.
It's Trump's fault and all of Trump's supporters fault. They
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have to be held accountable by voters, which they said
this right before the election, for the violence against against
Paul Pelosi. And we sit here and it's like, you know,
the left actually justifies its political violence sometimes. I mean,
we could go back and look, you know, we sit
here and say, look, what happened to Paul Pelosi is horrible.
The guys, he's a senior citizen. He got hit with
a hammer, he almost died. It's awful. Right, if that
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was your grandpa, my grandpa, we'd be you know, we'd
be outraged, and we would want justice and anyway we
all and that's the that's the way the right feels
and honestly and the way the right feels about the
shooting it happened in Colorado Springs is that's heinous and evil.
And the Democrats turn around and say, anybody who still
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believes in their Second Amendment rights, anybody who thinks it should,
they're part of this problem. Meanwhile, our audience of Second
Amendment rights supporters are all like, if I were there,
I would have risked my life to stop this shooter.
I would have been Richard Fierro. I would have risked
myself to save the lives of the LGBTQ individuals at
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this nightclub. But that we're not allowed to actually understand
that to come together a society around that, it has
to be you being the right are the bad people,
and you're responsible for things that have nothing to do
you're responsible for the guy who says he's Jesus and
a computer simulation attacking somebody in his underwear at two
o'clock in the morning. It's our story. The stories that
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disappear are telling guy in Waukeshaw gets in a car
mos through a crowd of all white Christmas celebrants, probably
based on his background, clearly mentally ill, but it's also
quite clear that he also was racist, right like, and
that story almost completely disappears. And what do we call
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a person who hates white people who says they hate
white people? I would call them a racist. Yeah, they're racists.
But it's isn't it fascinating a lot of if you asked,
if you asked someone at CNN, what do you call
a person who's not white who says I hate white people?
They'd say somebody who is dealing with thee Well that
they might make the argument, you can't be racist against
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white people because white people have too much control the argument.
So that's that's what they would argue. They would say racism.
That story vanished, And and by the way, there are
racist white, Black, Asian and Hispanic people. That sentence alone
would revolutionize the way we talk about racism, almost no
one on the left would even say it. Let me
say it again, because it's clear and it's true and
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you all know it. There are white, black, Asian and
Hispanic racists. Did you see did you see the woman
who was yelled at by an African American woman was
the one doing the yelling. And she was yelling at
a Asian American woman. This was on video just when
viral this week that she should well, I mean she
was yelling all kinds of I mean, the worst kinds
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of racism about the Asian woman's appearance. Yeah, about how
she should eat her dog with her you know, I mean,
just really gross stuff. Not a national news story. Went viral,
but not a national news story. Why is that, Clay? Yep?
That's my point. That story And to your point, how
about the kid? And I say kid, I think he
was like twenty two or twenty three in Indiana who
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stopped the mass shooting in the mall by dropping the
guy almost immediately when he came out and started firing
in the food court. I believe it was outside Indianapolis,
if I'm not mistaken. I thought it was from like
thirty yards out, which with the pistols a damn good shot.
It was an incredible, incredible move by him that saved
countless lives. Story vanished almost immediately. If they don't fit
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the prescribed media narrative, then those stories vanish almost instantaneously.
We know this because look as bad as the mass
shooting was in Colorado, every weekend, there are far more
people being shot and killed in cities and they don't
even get a blip of media attention. Again, you made
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the point. I think it's such a good one. If
we eliminated every mass shooting in America, which I wish
we could do, I would be ecstatic, and I know
everybody out there listening would be ecstatic if that happened
as well. Murders would still be occurring in this country.
So think about what percentage of media attention for violent
crime goes to mass shooting as a percentage of the
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overall violent crime that they represent relative to the mass
the massive amounts of violence that we just accept that
occurs all over this country and nobody even blinks or argues, hey,
let's stop this. But there's just also something so disgraceful
and underhanded and insidious about the every time there is
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a shooting that the Democrat left antisecond amendment. You know,
authoritarian libs can manufacture it to some kind of assault
on everybody on It's not it's you agree with us
on all the following issues or your part of the problem.
They do it to immediately defame their political opponents right away.
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It's not Hey, do we all come together here? Do
we all understand how horrible this was? Are we standing
in solidarity with the victims in Colorado Springs? There are
fellow human beings, or fellow Americans or brothers and sisters.
Do we get to have that moment as a country. No,
it's immediately turned by the left into the right is evil.
There would be no guns and no murder if it
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wasn't for the right. It is you, It is your fault.
They do this now all the time. Didn't you tell me?
I think yesterday was the one year anniversary of Waukesha? Yep?
I didn't see anyone covering the one year anniversary of
the Waukesha mass murder by vehicle at a Christmas parade?
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Welcome back in
Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Closing out the Tuesday edition
of the program. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. Make sure
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you don't miss a moment. It is only two days
until Thanksgiving. Many of you probably gonna be hitting the road,
hitting the air. Be safe, including our own buck Sexton,
who was traveling to be with his family. And we
want to make sure you find us. Clay Travis buck Sexton.
You can listen to us anywhere. Do it today. I
just I want to start. You know, we're all gonna
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be thankful and seeing family and it's great in America
and celebration all that. We gotta fight over something, the
most overrated Thanksgiving food. I gotta pull out right now, Clay.
And I gotta tell you the American people not taking
the bait because I put roles in there. No one
is saying roles. People love their roles. I think it's
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the maybe the staple. It's just my anti gluten propaganda.
I know you know I have Celiac disease. So I'm
hoping I could convert everybody away from the gluten. People
love their roles, they're not having it. Only ten percent
say roles. I gotta say it's really between green bean
casserole and candied sweet potato, which are very regionalized. I
will say green bean casserole super popular, I think in
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your neck of the woods, right because in the Northeast,
candied sweet potato up in New England's a big thing,
the sweet potato with the marshmallow, and people in the
rest of the country are not having that. And twenty
percent of people saying turkey. But you know that's that's
not really catching on either. I am super anti green beans.
I don't like I think the food. What's the food
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that now that you're an adult, you just and don't
get told, hey, eat this, it's healthy. I genuinely don't
like green beans, and I genuinely don't like carrots. I
don't have any interest in eating either. Sun dried tomatoes
for me, I like tomatoes. No, I like tomatoes, but
sun dried tomatoes those sort of chewy, little bags of bitterness.
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They put that in food, and I'm always like, all
I could taste of sun dried tomato. I just I
see it on a menu and avoid I avoid it
at all. I don't have a strong I don't have
a strong reaction in that it's carrots. I also am
very much anti um little tiny chopped onions, you know,
like the ones that they'll put on top of. And
I don't like coconut shreds, you know, like cake. I'm
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always like the cake would be way better without the coconut.
Like what is that called? Like you don't like coconut
shredded coconut? There you go, I'm very anti shredded coconut. Yeah,
so people love their roles, but green being cast role
and candied sweet potato in a big fight. We've also,
by the way, go to Clambuck dot com plea's become
v i P subscribers got a bunch of emails in
I wanted to address some of these. First one up
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Clay Penelope, like you guys and your show, but you
dis Wales. Not to be fair, I've been making jokes
about Wales, not Clay, anything at all bad about Not
by the way, not the animal, the part of part
of Great Britain, w a l es right, Wales is
a beautiful country. The fastening history. Some of my ancestors
work the coal mines there before emigrating to PA. I'm
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thankful for the wealth Geans and my family Happy Thanksgiving.
I'm not dissing Whales or saying it's not a beautiful
place with lovely people. I probably have some Wealsh ancestry myself.
I'm just my my twenty three me is super boring.
It's England, Ireland and that's it. But yeah, it's just that,
you know, is it? I mean, is it like really
a country? I mean, it's kind of part of the
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kind of part of England. I'm just saying, it's kind
of like England's little brother that does whatever it's told.
I don't want to tell you, that's all I'm saying.
It could be nice Wales done. I'm telling you we
probably have a closet, huge Clay and Buck fan base
in Wales that you have alienated forever. Yeah, and they're there.
I know what word they're calling me right now, and
I definitely can't say it on the radio. Is it like,
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is it like William the Prince of Wales? Yeah, isn't
that part of his title? But so you're like that,
you're like the Queen or the King and the Prince
of the whale. I no one can keep all this stuff.
I think that's right. Yeah, it does, doesn't even really
make any sense. Um, all right, we got another one, Tom,
Speaking of food, he's up on the celery tuna thing. Guys.
I discovered it during winters in California. Had been stuck
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on it ever since. This from Tom, He says, I see,
Harry Palett may not have progressed along the way with
the rest of us. Tom. We are here to free
you from the propaganda of big Celery. Nobody wants Celery
and their tuna sound I'm telling you, man, it's just
you don't need it. Doesn't make it better. It's like
putting walnuts in your brownies. It's crazy. I'll defend big Celery.
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Celery and peanut butter, amazing combo. Do you ever have
celery and peanut butter? Celery and peanut butter? You never
even heard of this? No, I just have peanut butter
on my carrots. Oh that sounds way worse. That does
sound kind of weird actually, but yeah, no, and on
peanut butter on the ago, blue cheese on my celery.
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You know, well, that's good. Too. I mean, what's blue cheese?
Bad on? Blue cheese is like, it's hard to go
wrong with ranch on basically anything. As you can tell,
this is the part of the show where Clay and
Buck don't get to eat lunch, so we both get hungry.
We'll be with you tomorrow. I'll be in New York.
Talk to you. Then play Travis and Buck Sexton on
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the front lines of tru
Third hour of Clay and Bucks starts right now. Everybody.
We have Florida Surgeon General, doctor Joseph Latipo with us. Now.
He's got a book out, Transcend Fear, a blueprint fund
blueprint for mindful leadership in public health, which been out
for a couple of months, Doctor Latipo. Honor to have
you on, sir. Thanks for making time for us. Hey,
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thanks for having me on. Happy to be with you
guys right before Thanksgiving, Yes, sir. And one thing we
are not thankful for is doctor Anthony Fauci's leadership during
the pandemic. You may have seen him giving his farewell
speech of sorts today from the White House. What is
I mean? You're a Harvard trained MD, You're the surgeon
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General of the state of Florida. You've looked at the
data for your state of over twenty million people extensively.
When doctor Fauci says that you should be proud to
mask up when you walk into places, that people should
consider masking, that they should all get the vaccine, that
the vaccine will keep anyone from dying. And there's a
whole lot more we could say. What do you say
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as a medical professional? I say that I am stunned
by doctor Fauci's inability to adapt to data. You know.
In his comments, he said something about how it's too
bad that people aren't getting these COVID nineteen vaccines, or
for the people who aren't, most people have, but for
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the people who aren't, he hates to see them get infected. Well,
then he really ought not want them to get because
as every as very plainly clear, their protection from infection
wanes rapidly. And that he's still not acknowledging that and
still playing mask, you know, charade mask. I don't know.
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Whatever this silly masquerade is with masks is just it's
a it's a testament of why he cannot leave fast enough.
Doctor A. Lattipo, appreciate you joining us. This is clay.
Doctor Fauci also said that he thinks people should test
for COVID before they get together with their friends and
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family for Thanksgiving. It is two days until Thanksgiving. I
can guarantee you that the Travis family will not be
testing before we have Thanksgiving dinner. You've got I think
two kids, maybe three will the Lattipo family. You are
obviously in a steam physician, will you be doing COVID
tests before you sit down for Thanksgiving dinner. The only
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thing is going to be tested this week is going
to be my patience because our three boys are going
to be running all around with you know, pumps full
of yummy pumpkin pie from my wife and all that
good stuff. You know, it's really sad. It's just a
he has a right to believe that, of course, but
it's just a testament to how sad his vision of
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life is. I mean, you can't just enjoy the beautiful
time with people you love and care about. You have
to think about testing and what maybe even masking or
who knows whatever whatever else he's suggesting before Thanksgiving. It's sad,
and yeah, I feel in someone. I feel bad for
him that that's how he sees Thanksgiving. I mean, it's sad.
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Speaking of Florida, certain general doctor Latipo and his book
has Transcend Fear, a Blueprint for Mindful Leadership in Public Health.
Factor Latipo have a lot of doctors come forward. I mean,
I would assume it's easier for them in Florida than
it is in other places. I'm in Florida right now
and said that they're going to stand against some of
the madness that they're not going to pretend like the
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establishment experts got everything right and that we should all
still go into every hospital with a little cloth mask
on all the time and all this stuff. I mean,
have you seen a change in the mentality of a
lot of your fellow physicians over let's say the last
year or so, as we've really seen everything that we
were told by the Fauci apparatus and the Biden administration
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just not actually happen. I mean, everything fell apart. I'm
going to give you what I think might be a
surprising answer, and that answer is no. And what the
reason it's know is because it's not new. Most of
the doctors over the past year who have opposed these policies,
they haven't changed. They've known that we've done many trials
of masks and they just have generally not been effective.
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They've known that the vaccines aren't doing a good job
at preventing infection, but they are afraid to speak because
of the repercussions. And that's really the issue. That's what's
behind it, and there are consequences and it's it's a
very real thing. You've got boards of medicine trying to
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strip doctors of their license, not because of anything they
did with their clinical care, but because they said the
quote unquote wrong thing on Facebook or Twitter. And that's
the reality. That's the reality that physicians are living with.
I'm sure you're familiar with the California law that was
passed restricting essentially threatening to punish doctors for saying the
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wrong things about one specific issue, which is COVID nineteen.
So unfortunately, no, people's opinions haven't changed, but even more unfortunately,
a lot of doctors who are totally opposed to what
doctor Fauchisman saying are still afraid to speak up. Doctor Latipo,
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I'm sure you have seen speaking on that fear. California
has tried to pass a law, and you moved from
California to the Free State of Florida, if I remember correctly,
California is trying to pass a law that could create
consequences for medical professionals who speak out against whatever the
preferred sciences at the moment. I'm just curious in general.
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You probably remember when Fauci said, I am the science
isn't science about questioning everything? How quickly have we forgotten
that that's the prime mery goal of scientists is to
rigorously question everything lest you believe things that are untrue.
And how scary is it that we're trying to pass
laws now to essentially keep medical professionals from ever questioning
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the consensus opinion. Well, it's terrible. It's terrible, and that
is exactly I mean that is at the core of science,
is asking questions and debating and bringing evidence and seeing
how things shake out, being curious that those are core
tenets of science and they're things that motivated people like
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me and many other people to pursue science. And unfortunately,
what's happening in California is they're trying to rewrite reality
to match their dystopian fantasy. And that's essentially what's happening,
and hopefully people will just realize that it's total nonsense
that they're doing there. It's being a doctor Joseph Latipost,
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Surgeon General of the State of Florida, and doctor Latipo
if somebody was willing to let's say, somebody out there thinks,
you know, wearing two masks, because because Fauci says two
masks are great, it's going to keep them safe. But
they're at least willing to look at what data you
have access to say, when it came to mask mandates
in schools, we're two years into this, what could you
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point them to? What could you tell them about the
real numbers that you saw in Florida during now two
full years of data collection when it came to schools
that required masks versus schools that did not. The Florida
data has definitely been supportive of the fact that in
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schools these masks are doing basically nothing. And there are
other studies. There's a doctor in California, doctor Tracy Hog,
that sent a ton of research on masks. She's debunked
one of the CDC studies where the CDC reported that
the masks were effective when they compared a couple of
schools the stricks. But then she looked and found it
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basically actually, if you look further, they were only it
only looked that way because of the specific period of
time to the CDC. Look, why did they look during
that time? Only? Who knows? It's not that they were
trying to put their finger on the scale, is it? So?
It's really nonsense. The air goes around, guys, if you're
in a room, whether you wear the mask or not,
the air is coming out. And there's even a randomized
(08:26):
clinical trial that shows harms, believe it or not, harms
associated with cloth masks and healthcare workers. So it's it's
it's just a total barrel of nonsense, just complete nonsense,
this mask obsession, and they cannot die soon enough. But
unfortunately many of my colleagues are trying to revive it
this winter. Yeah, and so that's the question that Buck
(08:49):
and I have been asking, how does this end? And
that's the question we would ask Fauci if he would
ever come on with us. You're saying, hey, this holiday season,
I believe this is now the third Thanksgiving we've had
basically since COVID started. If I'm doing the math correctly,
Fauci saying, you still need to take a COVID test.
You should still be wearing masks. If you're doing this
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in year three of COVID, How does it ever end?
Will it ever end? And are you concerned? I think
you are, just based on the way that you answer
that question, doctor Latipo, that we can't just live and
let live, because the people who are still wearing masks,
if they could, would demand that all of us wear masks,
including two and three year olds, the minute that they
(09:31):
have the power to do so well, You're you are
dead on there, There's no question about that. And I
think people first of all, I think people just need
to really be acquainted comfortable with the scientific data from
clinical trials. These these advocates always point to these observational
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studies of the CDC quotes, but clinical trials are really
the gold standard and these masks. Masks have done terrible
almost in all of these clinical trials. So people need
to feel comfortable first of all that they really, on
a scientific basis, they're doing little to nothing. And then
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the second part is just deciding that you're not going
to participate in these charades. And that's what needs to happen.
And I think if enough of us do that, they'll
they'll stop trying to work their weasel their way back
in with their mask recommendations which later become strong recommendations,
which later become mandates, and all the nonsense that we've
(10:38):
seen over the past two years. Florida Certain General doctor
Latipo his book Transcend Fear at a Blueprint for Mindful
Leadership in Public Health. Doctor Latipo thanks for being with us. Okay,
thanks so much, guys. Happy Thanksgiving guys, you too, no doubt,
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. And thank goodness that
if you live in Florida you're still going to have
(10:59):
some freedom. But think about how crazy this is. There
is no end to this COVID insanity, which is why
Buck and I continue to hammer it here because they're
coming for you. They're coming for you with masks, they're
coming for you with the vaccine mandates. As soon as
these things come up again in terms of cases, they
are going to chase you and they are going to
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Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck. I know you watched the
US soccer game with your brothers and the US managed
to choke away what should have been a win. You
were a soccer code coach in high school back in
the day. What did you think of the penalty kick
give up in the tie. I would have had very
harsh words for the defender who, for no good reason
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fouled Gareth Bale in the box from behind when he
would have had to make a turn at the whole
It was look, you know, you eat. Nerves are a
real thing at that level, even for the top pros.
And it looks like the guy just kind of freaked
out a little bit. It can happen. Um, you know,
it is what it is meant. This is why I
can't get too excited about US US men's soccer clay
(13:30):
because they always just break my heart. Man, they always
just break my heart. Are they even gonna make it
out of the group? No? Does our audience care? Five percent? Maybe? So?
I think a huge percentage of our audience On Friday,
we'll be watching the USA against England because I think
everybody's gonna be Oh yeah, I think a huge percentage
because it's the day day after thank yeah. So you
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can let us know if you're actually watching or if
you think I'm crazy that a lot of you will
be watching. Um, but this ties in but cains wait
real quick, Wales, I mean, are we gonna lose two
or tie the island of like Palau or you know,
we Liechtenstein's got a kind of nasty front line. They're
gonna take us out. I'm sorry. It's Wales. No one
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even thinks it's a country. It's true all everything that
he just said. And I hope we don't have a
monster listenership right now in Wales. It's just losing their mind. Overseas.
They've been all in on everything we've set up till now,
and now they're just done with us. This ties in.
I'm gonna be up at the Big Game, as they
call it, and it should be pretty fantastic. Michigan against
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Ohio State part of the big noon Fox kickoff show
in Columbus, Ohio. We are number one, I believe in Columbus, Ohio,
so imagine a lot of Buckeye fans will be there
as well as Michigan Wolverines. But I saw this. This
literally has come out since we started the show. I
believe the NHL official Twitter account National Hockey League for
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those of you out there that are not big sports fans,
eated a couple of hours ago. Trans women are women,
trans men are men, non binary identity is real. Now,
whatever you think about this, I would just point out
that men can't get pregnant, and you are born with
(15:17):
a penis or a vagina and that is your actual gender.
I would just point all this out as biological reality.
How is it that the NHL Twitter account has decided
that they need to weigh in on trans related issues?
And I'm now in a battle out there in the
world over and this has been going on for years.
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But I can't believe that anyone with a functional brain
buck would argue that a man should be able to
compete against a woman in women's sports just because the
man decided that he now identifies as a woman. I mean,
is the only way this happens. There's there's some true
believers for whom the wiring of their brain is just
(16:00):
they're they're so flooded with the propaganda of the left,
and they're so desperate for acceptance by the leftist Marxist
elites that you know they actually believe this, Clay. But
I mean the vast majority of the people who go
I mean the ones who go along with this, I mean,
our audience sitting are saying, yeah, that's crazy. But the
people who go along with this, it's just cowardice that
(16:24):
they just they don't want to be called the bigot.
They don't want to be told that they're anti trands
and all the rest of it. And so there are
just some of us. It falls upon some of us
to stand up and say, no, reality is a thing.
There are still some things that are true. No matter
how much it may hurt some people's feelings, or how
much it doesn't let themselves actualize or whatever, there are
(16:45):
things that are true, and we refuse to let people
tell us they're not true, just because they really really
believe them. I think there's also if you're a sports
fan at all, and if you have kids and you've
ever participated in youth sports, the idea of men and
women being equal in sports is so absurdly ridiculous. Men
are bigger, stronger, and faster than women. You have weight
(17:07):
classes in boxing, you have age limits in little league
right Like I've coached little league baseball. If I got
to play with an eighteen year old, our team would
be badass. The kid would hit a home run every
time he came up, if he was any good at all.
But that's not allowed. And if you tried to do that,
parents would revolt. What's happening is overwhelmingly if you have daughters,
(17:28):
and you need to hear this, because it's happening at
some point over the next five to ten years. If
you are raising young girls, there is going to be
someone who identifies as a girl that is biologically male,
that is going to play in their district, in their school,
in their state, and it is going to fundamentally alter
(17:48):
fair play because men and men are bigger, stronger, and
faster than women. And the fact that this isn't allowed
to be said is I think a testament to what
an absurdly up down world, upside down world we live in.
And it gets me so fired up every time it happens. Buck,
But the NHL putting this out there is frankly indefensible.
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mentioned the top of the show that there was a veteran,
Richard Fierro, who was able to help tackle and subdue
the mass murdering shooter at the Q nightclub over the weekend.
We actually have him explaining how he was able to
in Colorado's Springs tackle this shooter and in doing so,
(19:35):
likely save save lives. There were five lives lost, but
it could have been as we know, many more based
on how many people were there and the situation the
circumstances they were playing out, But there were a couple
of heroes on the scene who stepped up and neutralize
the threat. Here is Army veteran Richard Fieriro explaining how
(19:57):
he did what he did and how he stepped up
to say lives play Clip one. I saw the ACU
pattern flack best and for me that was like, there's
a handle, I'm getting him. So I ran across the room,
grabbed the handle, pulled him down, and then started to well,
actually I think I went for its gun with him.
His rifle flew in front of him, and the young
(20:18):
man that tried to jump in there with me, he
we both either pulled him down or whatever, but he
ended up at his head and right next to the AAR,
and then with the aar he I told him, pushed
the aar, get the air away from him. The kid
pushed the r I don't know what his name was,
and then I proceeded to take his other weapon and
pistol and then just start hitting him at where I could,
(20:40):
but the armor's in the way, and I just started
I found a crease in his between his armor and
his head, and I just started weighing away in doing so. Clay,
this guy, this guy saved live, stopped a mass shooting
in progress by grabbing the body armor of the shooter,
dragging him to the ground, and finding a place where
(21:01):
he could pummel him with his bare hands. Good for him,
and I applaud and believe we should give attention to
all of the heroes who stop any sort of crimes
like these. Is it just me, Buck or does it
feel like this guy the shooter's name is being used
in the media much less. The reason why I bring
that up is the data reflects that many mass shooters
(21:25):
are motivated by the fame and notoriety that they get
in media coverage, usually get front page profiles on their
whole family. And it feels to me like maybe the
lightbulb moment is going off and there's less attention now,
although maybe I'm gonna end up being wrong, but less
attention in terms of the name and the notoriety being
(21:46):
given to these guys, because that, to me is the
one thing that those of us with big platforms can
work on. We try to do that on the show,
not publicize and make famous the shooters, and less there's
somebody that these are looking for. Hey, this person's on
the run. I think that's obviously a different scenario. But
in terms of a captured shooter, I don't think we
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should allow them to be famous. And so there's the
heroes who took down the shooter and save lives in
the process. We just heard from one of them, Richard Fierro,
their army veteran. You know, Clay that the politicization of this,
I know that it has now just become what we expect,
particularly from Democrats, when it fits a certain narrative. Immediately
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it turns into this crazy person did a thing and
it was awful and horrible. Therefore, because I don't like
your politics on some unrelated issues, you better bend the
knee and agree to do what we tell you to do,
or else you're the reason that this happened. I mean,
it's say, we talked about stochastic terrorism yesterday. Tucker mentioned
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it last night on his show as well the opening monologue,
and there really is this effort to try, you know,
to emotionally bludgeon people into submission on things that have
nothing to do with an actual act of violence like this,
and you know you're seeing you saw this on a
very different level. Obviously people no one lost their life.
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I mean, Paul Pelosi is fine, but even after the
Paul Pelosi assault, and I know there Look, here's an
outstanding question that has not been resolved about that, and
people have a lot of them. But there are two
different law enforcement agencies who have two different stated positions
on whether Paul Pelosi answered the door himself or not.
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That matters. It matters from a security review perspective, It
matters from it we should know all the facts and
the positioning of this perspective. The more we learned about
this guy do do Pay, for example, and this just
all goes to how violence the media will even it's
not just when it fits a narrative, they will mold
the narrative. They will form a narrative and then try
to use it for political purposes, explicitly political purposes. Do
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Pay was a guy who said he was Jesus, like
literally said he was Jesus, lived under a tree, thought
he was living in a computer simulation at one point,
was a nine to eleven truther. Um was was was
I think his like partner slash you know, girlfriend was
the nudest, but I think he went I'm not an
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expert on his nude practices, but I'm just saying, you know,
I think that she was more of the but I
mean he probably got did some nudity. Yeah, he's an
illegal alien, nudist, uh lunatic who thought he was Jesus,
lived under a tree, thought he was living a computer simulation.
If they weren't being honest, what they would do is
they would say, these have this is all the harm
hallmarks of somebody with extreme mental illness, likely an extreme
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level of schizophrenia or you know, some form of personality disorder.
And this is a guy who honestly should be in
a in a in a you know, mental health facility,
a criminal mental facility, but one where he's instead it's well,
you know he did this and Pizza gate qua non Trump.
It's Trump's fault and all of Trump's supporters fault. They
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have to be held accountable by voters, which they said
this right before the election, for the violence against against
Paul Pelosi. And we sit here and it's like, you know,
the left actually justifies its political violence sometimes. I mean,
we could go back and look, you know, we sit
here and say, look, what happened to Paul Pelosi is horrible.
The guys, he's a senior citizen. He got hit with
a hammer, he almost died. It's awful. Right, if that
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was your grandpa, my grandpa, we'd be you know, we'd
be outraged, and we would want justice and anyway we
all and that's the that's the way the right feels
and honestly and the way the right feels about the
shooting it happened in Colorado Springs is that's heinous and evil.
And the Democrats turn around and say, anybody who still
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believes in their Second Amendment rights, anybody who thinks it should,
they're part of this problem. Meanwhile, our audience of Second
Amendment rights supporters are all like, if I were there,
I would have risked my life to stop this shooter.
I would have been Richard Fierro. I would have risked
myself to save the lives of the LGBTQ individuals at
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this nightclub. But that we're not allowed to actually understand
that to come together a society around that, it has
to be you being the right are the bad people,
and you're responsible for things that have nothing to do
you're responsible for the guy who says he's Jesus and
a computer simulation attacking somebody in his underwear at two
o'clock in the morning. It's our story. The stories that
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disappear are telling guy in Waukeshaw gets in a car
mos through a crowd of all white Christmas celebrants, probably
based on his background, clearly mentally ill, but it's also
quite clear that he also was racist, right like, and
that story almost completely disappears. And what do we call
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a person who hates white people who says they hate
white people? I would call them a racist. Yeah, they're racists.
But it's isn't it fascinating a lot of if you asked,
if you asked someone at CNN, what do you call
a person who's not white who says I hate white people?
They'd say somebody who is dealing with thee Well that
they might make the argument, you can't be racist against
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white people because white people have too much control the argument.
So that's that's what they would argue. They would say racism.
That story vanished, And and by the way, there are
racist white, Black, Asian and Hispanic people. That sentence alone
would revolutionize the way we talk about racism, almost no
one on the left would even say it. Let me
say it again, because it's clear and it's true and
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you all know it. There are white, black, Asian and
Hispanic racists. Did you see did you see the woman
who was yelled at by an African American woman was
the one doing the yelling. And she was yelling at
a Asian American woman. This was on video just when
viral this week that she should well, I mean she
was yelling all kinds of I mean, the worst kinds
(27:57):
of racism about the Asian woman's appearance. Yeah, about how
she should eat her dog with her you know, I mean,
just really gross stuff. Not a national news story. Went viral,
but not a national news story. Why is that, Clay? Yep?
That's my point. That story And to your point, how
about the kid? And I say kid, I think he
was like twenty two or twenty three in Indiana who
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stopped the mass shooting in the mall by dropping the
guy almost immediately when he came out and started firing
in the food court. I believe it was outside Indianapolis,
if I'm not mistaken. I thought it was from like
thirty yards out, which with the pistols a damn good shot.
It was an incredible, incredible move by him that saved
countless lives. Story vanished almost immediately. If they don't fit
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the prescribed media narrative, then those stories vanish almost instantaneously.
We know this because look as bad as the mass
shooting was in Colorado, every weekend, there are far more
people being shot and killed in cities and they don't
even get a blip of media attention. Again, you made
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the point. I think it's such a good one. If
we eliminated every mass shooting in America, which I wish
we could do, I would be ecstatic, and I know
everybody out there listening would be ecstatic if that happened
as well. Murders would still be occurring in this country.
So think about what percentage of media attention for violent
crime goes to mass shooting as a percentage of the
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overall violent crime that they represent relative to the mass
the massive amounts of violence that we just accept that
occurs all over this country and nobody even blinks or argues, hey,
let's stop this. But there's just also something so disgraceful
and underhanded and insidious about the every time there is
(29:50):
a shooting that the Democrat left antisecond amendment. You know,
authoritarian libs can manufacture it to some kind of assault
on everybody on It's not it's you agree with us
on all the following issues or your part of the problem.
They do it to immediately defame their political opponents right away.
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It's not Hey, do we all come together here? Do
we all understand how horrible this was? Are we standing
in solidarity with the victims in Colorado Springs? There are
fellow human beings, or fellow Americans or brothers and sisters.
Do we get to have that moment as a country. No,
it's immediately turned by the left into the right is evil.
There would be no guns and no murder if it
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wasn't for the right. It is you, It is your fault.
They do this now all the time. Didn't you tell me?
I think yesterday was the one year anniversary of Waukesha? Yep?
I didn't see anyone covering the one year anniversary of
the Waukesha mass murder by vehicle at a Christmas parade?
Yep he didn't, because again, the narrative is inconvenient. Want
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Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Closing out the Tuesday edition
of the program. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. Make sure
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you don't miss a moment. It is only two days
until Thanksgiving. Many of you probably gonna be hitting the road,
hitting the air. Be safe, including our own buck Sexton,
who was traveling to be with his family. And we
want to make sure you find us. Clay Travis buck Sexton.
You can listen to us anywhere. Do it today. I
just I want to start. You know, we're all gonna
(32:44):
be thankful and seeing family and it's great in America
and celebration all that. We gotta fight over something, the
most overrated Thanksgiving food. I gotta pull out right now, Clay.
And I gotta tell you the American people not taking
the bait because I put roles in there. No one
is saying roles. People love their roles. I think it's
(33:05):
the maybe the staple. It's just my anti gluten propaganda.
I know you know I have Celiac disease. So I'm
hoping I could convert everybody away from the gluten. People
love their roles, they're not having it. Only ten percent
say roles. I gotta say it's really between green bean
casserole and candied sweet potato, which are very regionalized. I
will say green bean casserole super popular, I think in
(33:29):
your neck of the woods, right because in the Northeast,
candied sweet potato up in New England's a big thing,
the sweet potato with the marshmallow, and people in the
rest of the country are not having that. And twenty
percent of people saying turkey. But you know that's that's
not really catching on either. I am super anti green beans.
I don't like I think the food. What's the food
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that now that you're an adult, you just and don't
get told, hey, eat this, it's healthy. I genuinely don't
like green beans, and I genuinely don't like carrots. I
don't have any interest in eating either. Sun dried tomatoes
for me, I like tomatoes. No, I like tomatoes, but
sun dried tomatoes those sort of chewy, little bags of bitterness.
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They put that in food, and I'm always like, all
I could taste of sun dried tomato. I just I
see it on a menu and avoid I avoid it
at all. I don't have a strong I don't have
a strong reaction in that it's carrots. I also am
very much anti um little tiny chopped onions, you know,
like the ones that they'll put on top of. And
I don't like coconut shreds, you know, like cake. I'm
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always like the cake would be way better without the coconut.
Like what is that called? Like you don't like coconut
shredded coconut? There you go, I'm very anti shredded coconut. Yeah,
so people love their roles, but green being cast role
and candied sweet potato in a big fight. We've also,
by the way, go to Clambuck dot com plea's become
v i P subscribers got a bunch of emails in
I wanted to address some of these. First one up
(34:56):
Clay Penelope, like you guys and your show, but you
dis Wales. Not to be fair, I've been making jokes
about Wales, not Clay, anything at all bad about Not
by the way, not the animal, the part of part
of Great Britain, w a l es right, Wales is
a beautiful country. The fastening history. Some of my ancestors
work the coal mines there before emigrating to PA. I'm
(35:17):
thankful for the wealth Geans and my family Happy Thanksgiving.
I'm not dissing Whales or saying it's not a beautiful
place with lovely people. I probably have some Wealsh ancestry myself.
I'm just my my twenty three me is super boring.
It's England, Ireland and that's it. But yeah, it's just that,
you know, is it? I mean, is it like really
a country? I mean, it's kind of part of the
(35:39):
kind of part of England. I'm just saying, it's kind
of like England's little brother that does whatever it's told.
I don't want to tell you, that's all I'm saying.
It could be nice Wales done. I'm telling you we
probably have a closet, huge Clay and Buck fan base
in Wales that you have alienated forever. Yeah, and they're there.
I know what word they're calling me right now, and
I definitely can't say it on the radio. Is it like,
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is it like William the Prince of Wales? Yeah, isn't
that part of his title? But so you're like that,
you're like the Queen or the King and the Prince
of the whale. I no one can keep all this stuff.
I think that's right. Yeah, it does, doesn't even really
make any sense. Um, all right, we got another one, Tom,
Speaking of food, he's up on the celery tuna thing. Guys.
I discovered it during winters in California. Had been stuck
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on it ever since. This from Tom, He says, I see,
Harry Palett may not have progressed along the way with
the rest of us. Tom. We are here to free
you from the propaganda of big Celery. Nobody wants Celery
and their tuna sound I'm telling you, man, it's just
you don't need it. Doesn't make it better. It's like
putting walnuts in your brownies. It's crazy. I'll defend big Celery.
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Celery and peanut butter, amazing combo. Do you ever have
celery and peanut butter? Celery and peanut butter? You never
even heard of this? No, I just have peanut butter
on my carrots. Oh that sounds way worse. That does
sound kind of weird actually, but yeah, no, and on
peanut butter on the ago, blue cheese on my celery.
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You know, well, that's good. Too. I mean, what's blue cheese?
Bad on? Blue cheese is like, it's hard to go
wrong with ranch on basically anything. As you can tell,
this is the part of the show where Clay and
Buck don't get to eat lunch, so we both get hungry.
We'll be with you tomorrow. I'll be in New York.
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