January 23, 2023 • 36 mins
More classified documents discovered at Biden private residence. Biden elevates failed covid czar to chief of staff. Joe Manchin teases 2024 White House run. CNN downplays violent Antifa riot in Atlanta. Liberal cities are losing the battle with crime. FBI official who investigated Trump-Russia collusion arrested for Russia collusion.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Monday edition
of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We have
a lot to talk to you all about. Thank you
for being here with us. Over the weekend, you had
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a protest that turned into a riot. An individual was
killed after shooting at Georgia State Patrol officers. The media
was saying it was a mostly peaceful protest despite the
fact there was bullets. There were bullets flying at police officers.
There were there were incendiary devices basically bombs found on
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some of them, all over what was supposed to be
a training facility for law enforcement. So that's where we
are with that. We also have Mayor Eric Adams Clay
some speculation he could be planning a white house run
after raising enormous amounts of money and just a day
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one point two seven million dollars one year into his
first term. We'll discuss that in a little bit, but
I wanted to start us. Oh, and there was a
mass shooting in Los Angeles, a horrific shooting over the weekend,
and because of the perpetrator, who has already taken his
own life. Democrats have very quickly changed the story, changed
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their view of whether this is something we have to
talk about or not. But let's start with this, Clay,
because this is just the truth everybody. I actually was
one behind. I'm trying to keep track of how many
of how many times they find classified information in Joe
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Biden's possession, illegally meeting out a place that is unsecured,
just for all the libs in the media out there
who they can't They don't know the rules, they know
the law, they don't like to read. They just want
to kind of be on camera or put archy stuff
on Twitter. It's a huge violation of classified handling protocols.
I thought it was four, Clay. You think we're on
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five now, right. I actually can't even take it into
You have to go back and look at the various
iterations of this. There's also a new White House Chief
of Staff incoming, which I think is interesting. Who was
the COVID czar under Biden. But let's start, if we can,
with at what point is yet another batch of classified found.
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Remember this is not willfully taken by a president, kept
in secure storage, under surveillance in one location. This is
a non president vice president who does not have declassification
authority taking this stuff home like he's reading Car and
Driver over the weekend and literally leaving it in the garage.
At what point has just become a true political liability?
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At what point is it no longer possible for them
to keep the defense of all things Biden going. I
think it's there and for people were the weekend, and
I understand how you could miss it, because when I
saw it, I just kind of rolled my eyes. They
have officially had to call in the Department of Justice.
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And what I would say, maybe we can get our
friend Andrew McCarthy on later this week, because I'd be
curious how he would analyze this. But my thought is,
when you bring in the FBI and the Department of Justice,
it's probably them saying, if you don't let us do this,
we're gonna have to go get a warrant and do
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this search on our own. And so they allowed it
to happen with their attorneys still present. But yeah, Buck,
this is now the fifth different time that they have
had to announce that they have found classified documents. And
remember when this began. My question for you was it
felt like a cluster, because every one of these drip
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drip drip stories embarrassing. But if the White House had
been able to control this, and they had said, hey,
we in the wake of the Donald Trump incident, decided
to undergo an exhaustive search of all of Joe Biden's
private files and private papers, and we have found several
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different documents with classified markings on them and have turned
them over to the National Archives. And they had told
that story once, and they had said, hey, we looked
at every possible residence, every possible location. We did a
deep search for classified documents, just to make sure that
we were complying. It would have been a mess, but
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it wouldn't have been the mess that this is turned into.
And Buck, you mentioned what I think is so significant here.
They made a big argument not only that Trump had
these documents, but that they weren't secured. Do you remember
the front page New York Times story within a few
feet of where everyone partied, Donald Trump had classified documents
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as if and they had to map up to show
people Mara Lago and where the classified documents were and
what a security risk it was. And you and I
came on and we said, look in order to move
around the Mara Lago property at all, you have to
be wanted, You have to be vetted to even enter
onto that property. When you come in, they want your name,
they want your birds, you know, your driver's license number,
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everything else to even allow you access to that premises
in the first place. And so when they initially reported these,
they had all the Biden defenders come out and say, well,
this is totally different. This is how you're going to
supposed to handle it. And then they had to Corvette
and the classified documents by it, and they just continued
this drip drip drip of incompetence, and in the process,
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I think they've cut a lot of people's legs off.
And Buck you mentioned the idea that Eric Adams might
run as a as the mayor of New York City
for president. Joe Mansion came out and said he might
run for president. Now, that would be an easy way
for him to potentially avoid having to run for reelection
in West Virginia and make it look like his choice,
because then he runs for president and if he fails,
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which I think he would at least, that's kind of
like him riding off into the sunset and declaring independence
from the Democrats. However you want to classify it. But
I think increasingly it's becoming likely that somebody with resources
is going to challenge Biden. I would still be very
surprised if Biden isn't going to run. But I think
this classified document scandal, the decision by his chief of staff,
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who we've talked about, ron Klain for a long time,
to step down and no longer be managing this White House,
it feels to me like Biden is a drift at
sea a bit, and there is going to be a challenger.
And I think that challenger may well emerge in the
next month or two, and then we'll see how serious
that challenge is going to be. I also think it's
noteworthy because we often say here on the show Clay
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that not only have they refused to punish the people
who got COVID so wrong, I mean, I mean, I
just mean professionally, never mind whether there should be any
sanction beyond that, but you know, fired like I think
people should lose their jobs over being wrong and also
horrifyingly wrong on all things COVID, But the incoming White
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House chief of staff, I want, I want everyone to
hear this. This is Jeff Zenz. Is that how you
say it? I'm not sure how you pronounced his name.
I thought I was hoping you were gonna know. Yeah,
you know, I take a stab at it. Jeff Zenz.
This was him in December of twenty twenty one. This
is not, you know, ancient history. Here is him weighing in.
He was the covid tzar for Biden, not a very
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prominent one in terms of the media coverage, and here
he is letting you know what he thinks of well
a lot of you play clip one. We are intent
on not letting Amicron disrupt work in school. For the vaccinated,
you've done the right thing and we will get through this.
For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe
illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals
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you may soon overwhelm. For the unvaccinated. Basically, you're all
gonna die or you're gonna kill people, and you're gonna
overwhelm hospitals and your monsters. This guy should be begging, yeah, sorry,
what No, I was just gonna say. This was the
guy who conveyed the winner of death argument, which is
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maybe the worst possible statement of all that Joe Biden
put out, And like you said, he's getting promoted. He
is being elevated. So in case anyone's wondering what they
do when they get everything wrong, and they, by all
objective standards, should be ashamed of themselves, promotion time in
the Biden White House. That's how they operate over there.
Because he was a soldier for the cause of the
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left and the fact that he said all this stuff
that's obviously untrue, and as never, how is it that
no one in the press has pushed him on this?
Why isn't he being asked at the first opportunity, Hey,
you said that hospitals will be over overrun with the unvaccinated.
In fact, the vaccination didn't stop hospittle levels from going
to exactly what they would have been without the vaccine.
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The thing didn't even work. So how about that he's
gonna be White House Chief of staff, which I would
I would note, you know, Clay if Ron Klaine was
the de facto president or whatever. People argue, does that
mean that Jeff Ziens I believe I've been told is
how you pronounced this? Does that mean that Jeff is
now the chief behind the scenes guy making decisions for Biden,
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who at this point, given the fact that there's classified
in five different batches of this have now been found, Okay,
they're now thinking about looking I believe at the Rohobeth
Beach house. Right, Isn't that the latest? As it is
tough to keep it all together because they keep saying, oh,
we found it all, it's over, it's good, we're cooperating.
But this is the last of it. Five times it's
not the last of it. And I wonder when the
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shift to not only do we have to search all
of Joe Biden's properties. This is where the Hunter Biden
connection can come in because I wonder how it's going
to be until they say, okay, let's start to search
some of the Biden family members who had access potentially
to these classified documents. And I'll also note that unlike
with the Trump investigation, where the FBI took all the
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photos of the classified documents a rate on the floor,
the FBI, to my knowledge, didn't take any pictures of
the classified documents inside Joe Biden's house that they took
possession of, so that propaganda aspect has not occurred. Also,
we haven't had any leaks really about any of the
details surrounding. It didn't take very long for the Washington
Post to come out and say, oh, these were extremely
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sensitive documents. They involved potentially the nuclear codes. Well, all
we've gotten is kind of a generic sense. They said
one involved Ukraine, Iran and England. I think on the
initial pin Biden document discovery, we haven't heard anything about
the document since Why would he bring these home? This
is another question I'm wondering. And if you senate, a
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lot of the senators buck have said you couldn't never
take the stuff out of the Senate and be able
to get this at you know, home. Well, I mean
it's illegal, right, and so that's why you wonder. Okay,
even if Biden has a skiff, a secure compartmented information facility,
which is where you are allowed to have classified and
for example, you know a president, the president goes to
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Camp David, but there's a skiff at Camp David, right,
I mean, when when you're talking about that level of
government official, Uh, there are there are places where they
where they go outside of the standard you know, the
White House, the Pentagon where you can have classified information.
But even if that were the case, why why would
he have left it? Or or you know, why would
he have left those those areas? With this, there is
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clear this is what I'm getting to recklessness here, And
I think that the way that they could honestly defend
against the recklessness. I think the way they could do
that would be to say that Biden is really old
and has made some and as cognition is challenged and
was challenging Eve when he was vice president. But they
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can't make that argument because they're gonna try to make
this guy president for four more years. I think it's likely,
And so they're left with what exactly Now you've noticed
there's these the move has now become clay that tepid. Well,
this is not entirely responsible. I am not super proud
of Biden's head, like they've sort of done a little
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bit of this, you know what I mean, But they're
just hoping that the storm passes. I'm not so sure
it's an easy thing for him to pack. Legally, they're
gonna make this thing go away. From that, I'm very
confident of. But politically this looks bad. Now. This has
gone from like, oh, doesn't everyone make mistakes? To Joe
Biden's a reckless clown. Yeah, and that's why I think
he's gonna have a challenger. Now I'm not sure who
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that challenger is who's going to step in the ring
with him, but I think ultimately Buck, when some of
this data comes out, what we're going to see is that,
for instance, the Senate classified documents were things that Joe
Biden felt entitled to keep, in other words, almost memorabilia,
in the same way that a lot of the dispute
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over what Trump kept seems to be rooted in, hey,
this is my property. This is memorabilia from my time
as president that Kim Jong Oon letters are a great
example of that. He thought that those were his possession.
And I think that you're going to find out that
Joe Biden had a very similar way of thinking. That's
the only thing that can make sense to me about
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how he could end up with classified documents from all
the way back to his Senate career. And then you
have to wonder how did he travel with these? Was
he carrying them on the train, you know, in his
briefcase back up to Delaware, which is the usual way
that Joe Biden would have traveled. How did the vice
president makes a little bit more sense because they're packing
up the office in a hurry. The Senate classified documents
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to me is much more challenging to explain away. And again,
to me, it emboldened somebody who could be a challenger,
whether it's Joe Manchin, whether it's Eric Adams. He might
get challenged on both flanks. Buck, which would be interesting,
Joe man Which was the last time we had a
real challenge? Right? Well, when was the last time we
had a real challenge to an incumbent president from his
own party? Clay gotta go. I mean, I think you'd
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almost have to go back to what George w George
hw Bush, right, I mean when he got challenged by
Pat mccannon in back in nineteen eighty eight. I think
it was if I remember correctly, so it's been or
I guess it would have been ninety two, after he'd
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were just talking about it. Buck was mentioning Eric Adams,
mayor of New York City, traveled down to the border.
(15:39):
We talked some about that has become a fairly consistent
critic of Joe Biden. On some facets, Joe Mansion is
saying it's too early to rule out anything, whether he
might run for president, whether he's going to switch parties.
Listen to this. You run for office in twenty twenty four,
you're gonna run at check out and made a decision
what I'm gonna do twenty four. I got two years
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ahead of me now to do the best I can
for the state and for my country. What's on the
table is reelection on the table. Everything's on the table
is running from governor on the table or no, no,
I've done that. That you've ruled out. I've done that.
So everything on the table. There's basically only one other thing,
the presidency. Is that something you would do outside the
Democratic Party. The only thing I can tell you is
what I will do is whatever I can, And I
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make my decision when I think is the best that
I can support and represent the people of West Virginia
but also be true to this country and the constitution
of this country. Yeah, and classic Joe Mansion fashion clay.
Everything's on the table, meaning Democrat, Republican, Independent, you know,
maybe run for president and maybe open a new card dealership. Whatever.
I'm sorry, Joe Mansion. We remember what happened with Joe Mansion.
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We need a Republican senator for West Virginia. Everybody, don't
get fooled by Mansions. Oh, I'm totally reasonable. I'm no, no, no.
He went along with the big spending. Now we're thirty
one trillion dollars in debt. People need to pay it.
To mention, I think he's done as a senator, and
I think he knows that. My world of thought is
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that he was kind of secretly hoping Republicans would take
back control of the Senate because then he could flip
and it wouldn't be that significant. It wouldn't you know,
it's fifty two to fifty three or something like that.
Now if he flips, given what Cinema has done, it's
a huge mess. And I think he knows he's kind
of painted into a corner. And Guyegos already is going
to run against Cinema from a Democrat side, right, so
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to Clay and Buck. Over the weekend, some violence breaking
out in the Atlanta area a riot. That's it's interesting
when a riot starts starts off as a protest. The
Democrats involved around this in the media will say it
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is a peaceful protest that turned into something else. Some
protests get the benefit of the doubt. Others, obviously are
the biggest threat to our democracy since you know, Pearl
Harbor or whatever. But I want to tell you about this,
this riot that occurred over the weekend. So there's something
in the Atlanta area that activists or it's the Atlanta
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Police Department training facility that's being built, which these leftists
are calling cop City. So there was a group and
it was clay over the weekend. I was trying to
dive into all this. A group that called themselves the
Forest Defenders, who were showing up and engaging in destructive
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and criminal acts. They were sabotaging things and because they
didn't want cop City as they call it, to be built,
because they thought that this is just the enshrining of
the police date or something. It's fascinating, isn't it. The
activists say they want just better training for police and
de escalation, and you're going to build this large, multi
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dis sciplinary law enforcement training facility to do that kind
of stuff, de escalation, non lethal whatever. And then the
leftists are saying, oh, but it's gonna take too many
trees and the environmental impact and the enshrining of police
because they're lunatics. But the Democrats in the media all
have a lot of sympathy for this and for this movement.
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But this was particularly this is particularly egregious. There was
a lethal shooting here, law enforcement involved shooting of a
protester who opened fire on a Georgia State Patrol trooper. Yea,
So one of these forest defender lunatics pulls a gun
and start shooting at Georgia State basically Georgia State Police. Right,
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Georgia State Police returns fire and kills him and then
other forest defenders. These are all Biden voters. By the way,
leftists decide that they're going to burn down you know,
they burned a police vehicle and they're destroying things and
engaging in a riot, and somehow we're supposed to think
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that this is peaceful protests that just got a little
out of hand. The whole thing is lunatic stuff. Yeah,
and if you haven't seen the videos, definitely worth watching.
The videos buck they arrested six Antifa. It appears activist
right in some way these groups are connected. All six
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were from outside of Atlanta. I believe five were from
out of state. One was from Decatur, Georgia, which is
a suburb basically of Atlanta. The other five, I believe
we're from out of state, all white people. So I
just want to point this out. You have out of
state rioters that are showing up in Atlanta and are burning, looting, pillaging,
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engaging in violent behavior. And on CNN, which has a
substantial footprint in Atlanta, they have a spokesperson go on
air and basically say, oh yeah, I mean, you know,
it's a cliche because we've had to go through this
so many times, but the amount of time that they
say this is, you know, essentially mostly peaceful protests. We have. Actually,
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we have a journalist on CNN here saying, let's not
remember they marched because they were outraged that a leftist
pulled the gun and started firing at cops and they
fired back and killed him. So they're outraged that that happened,
and then they're marching in Atlanta and they decide that
a group of them, as you said, six have been arrested. Basically, antiphamaniacs,
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their domestic terrorists, everybody, that's actually what they are. Let's
just use the proper terminology, which you won't hear that
on MSNBC or CNN. They start smashing things, destroying property
and lighting a police car on fire. And this is
what they're saying over at CNN, is this is all happening?
Play seven. I think that there's a real blurring of
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the lines in the use of the word violence. Is
property destruction violence to some people? It certainly is. But
you know this idea that breaking windows or other acts
of property destruction are the same as actual violence against humans,
It's kind of a dangerous and slippery concept, you know,
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you keep using these words violent, violent, violent, violent. The
only acts of violence against people that I saw were
actually police tackling protesters. Okay, okay, so this is fascinating.
This is the this is on CNN's air or whatever.
You hear that the only violence. Now he leaves out
the violence of the maniac shooting at and trying to
murder police officers, which then spurred this whole protest on
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the streets. But the whole point of the property destruction
is yes, economic pain, but it's also clay meant to intimidate.
You could argue by this guy same logic. Hey, I
just went into a bank and held a gun up
and said fill my bag full of money. I didn't
hurt anybody, right. The impression or the belief that violence
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is imminent is also something that has to be police
When you're lighting car, when you're throwing things and lighting
cars on fire, I think people are right to think
that's unsafe. You are threatening my physical safety as well
as destroying property. When a police car is burning, that
is the essence of violence. So the argument of oh,
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it's just property, no, no, no, When you burn a
police cruiser, that is violent behavior. And to the credit
of the it's a newly elected mayor of Atlanta. He's
been in this office relatively short period of time, Andre Dickens.
He replaced Kesha Lance Bottoms, who I believe is in
the Biden administration now, and she was fired up about
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all the crime related issues, but just a decided not
to run. Really, the mayor race in Atlanta turned on
who could stamp down on violent crime the most. And
I think this is interesting that the mayor of Atlanta
pointed out that these violent protesters were from outside of
Atlanta and came to the city of Atlanta. Again, Atlanta
is a majority black city. We have six white antifoot
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protesters arrested committing acts of violence. The mayor wasn't standing
for it. Listen, they had a protest last night and
it was peaceful, but there were some individuals within that
crowd that meant violence. They had explosives, they burned down
a police car, they broke windows, had businesses, and so
our police department, along with our state and federal partners,
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took swift action within two blocks and brought that situation
under control and the violent stop and those six individuals
were arrested. And it should be noted that these individuals
were not Atlanta or Georgia residents. Most of them traveled
into our city to wreak. Having Now he's saying some
of the right things here, and that's why you're pitching,
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which is a change, right from a big city mayor
for a change finally saying we got to stamp this out.
All of the all of the leftists out there, they're
running out of excuses and explanations for why whenever people
do what the anti police left wants. Everyone is less safe,
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there's more violence and destruction, and there's urban decay, and
the whole thing turns into a mess. They're running out
of ways to explain to people. Yeah, enforcing the law
less and deciding that you're going to use social justice
instead of criminal justice for police departments. This isn't gonna
work anymore and more and more players of seeing it. Actually,
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you bring this up New Orleans, which has the highest
per capita murder rate of any major city, which is
so I mean, I know you agree with that. I
love New Orleans. I think it's one of the coolest,
best towns in the whole country. It's a top ten
city for me in America. I love it. Far too
violent right now, obviously, far too much violence going on
in that city. Mayor LaToya Cantrell spoke about it and
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said some stuff that is on the right track. Listen
to this play ten. New Orleans has the highest per
capita murder rate of any major city. Why. Why is
because one dealing with COVID nineteen violence, everyone has guns.
The lack of the ability to resolve a conflict without
reaching and pulling a gun. Also, as it relates to accountability.
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You know, low lining offenses, you know, when they don't
get bailed or they're not restrained. Then we're just saying
how these crimes escalate. People need to be held accountable
across the board. Click. Can I just say so? Obviously
the first thing you said about COVID is preposterous, but
that's been a Democrat talking point for a long time
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now to try to cover up the decay of the
of these Democrat controlled cities. I think though, this is
part of what you're going to see this this slow shift. Oh,
it's still about you know, COVID or police training or whatever.
But she uses this word accountability. What that really means
is locking up criminals and enforcing the law. The inescapable
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truth that even Democrats are not having to face is
you have to lock up criminals, you have to enforce
the law or else not only does this stay, it
gets worse. And that's where we are. And they're also
slowly having to come to the grips with the fact
that this is all George Floyd protests related. The data
does not reflect that this occurred because of COVID. It's
because Democrats made a conscious decision in the wake of
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one viral video out of Minneapolis to brand all police
as evil and also to essentially tell their base, which
is a large portion of many cities, you don't have
to respect or comply with police anymore. And in fact,
if you get arrested, you're the victim of a structural
racist society. And as a result, crime skyrocketed. And now
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you're seeing that people don't like crime skyrockets in the cities.
I mean, you talk about New Orleans, buck for many
people who've been down there, it has gotten to the
point now where if you stray a little bit outside
of the main streets in the French Quarter, you go
very far off Bourbon Street at all. It's not safe.
And the number one lifeblood for New Orleans and all
those businesses is what tourism. And if people don't feel
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comfortable coming on the road and taking a vacation in
New Orleans because of the as you pointed out rightfully,
the highest rate of murder of any decent sized city
in America, then everything starts to fall apart. And everything
is falling apart in many of these cities, such as
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an insane world. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
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We are powering through the first hour here and Buck.
This news just came down in the last hour or so.
The FBI official who investigated Trump ties to Russia has
been arrested for his own illegal ties to Russia. And
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let me just hit you with some of the details
I'm reading from ABC News. Former top FBI official. This
is their headline, Charles McGonagall arrested overties to a Russian oligarch.
And again, this is the guy who investigated Trump for
Russia collusion. A former top FBI official in New York
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has been arrested over his ties to a Russian oligarch.
He was the special agent in charge of counterintelligence. This guy,
Charles McGonagall in the FBI's New York Field office. He
retired from the FBI in twenty eighteen. He's charged with
violating US sanctions by attempting to get an oligarch off
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the sanctions list. He is one of the highest ranking
former FBI officials ever charged with a crime. And this
is intriguing because again, this was the guy who was
involved in trying to prove Russia collusion involving Trump. So
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kind of an incredible irony here that the guy who
investigated Trump for Russia collusion actually gets arrested for his
own Russia collusion inside of the FBI. It is amazing
that once again the maxim that they always accused you
of what they're doing. Yes, couldn't be more true here.
There was no Russia Trump collusion. It was always a fantasy,
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and it was bizarre how much the FBI believed it.
It was bizarre that the intelligence community, and now I
know they hated Trump and their liars and all that,
but there were some who really did think that they
were going to find this. I mean, that's clear from
their internal communications. And it had to come that notion
had to come from somewhere. Well, when you have the
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guy who was the special Agent in charge of counterintelligence
in New York, which, by the way, the for the
FBI in terms of national security sensitivity, counterintelligence is that
remember anything that's you know, foreign, I got news for
everybody when you go overseas. CIA is it's their domain, right,
I mean, FBI is a law enforcement agency, and so
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CIA takes primacy on external intelligence operations. So they're doing
the really sensitive stuff abroad. But if you're talking about
very very sensitive stuff, especially here at home, if that
falls into the FBI, Bailey Wick and counterintelligence is the
very top of that heat. So you have somebody who
was helping a sanctioned Russian involved in counterintelligence investigations of
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Russians and Russian oligarchs at the highest level, taking payment
from He was getting paid off by oligarch's clay. So
he was also supposed to be the guy making sure
that oligarchs weren't doing things like paying off FBI agents.
That's what his job was. It is pretty remarkable. And
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you know when you look at all of the people
Alec Baldwin who have gotten charged with crimes. Of course
Ali Baldwin the most recent celebrity, but the amount of
people who said Trump is going to end up charged
with crimes and in prison who have gotten charged with
their own crimes really pretty remarkable, and how little attention.
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I'm curious how much discussion there will be surrounding this.
But again, I still say the most important single question
we need to get to the bottom of in this
country today is who inside of the FBI essentially ordered
the code read on the hunter Biden's story to try
(35:13):
to cover it up right, because they knew the laptop
was real, and yet they allowed big Tech to spread
the lie that this laptop was Russian disinformation. I don't
think Clay that there was one node that spread this.
I think they all. I think they all just looked
at each other, like, we know, we got to do here,
anything to defeat Trump, anything to hell Biden win. So
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I'm not even sure that you'll ever find a record
of it. The collusion was just based on their beliefs,
and it was implied before they even had to sit
down and talk. I think the one somebody has to
know the laptop is real, So I think they may
have not told some of these lower level FBI agents
who went out and spread this idea because The knowledge
(35:56):
may have been diffuse inside of the FBI, but there
are several people at the top of the FBI who
had to know this Underbiden laptop was real, and that
the idea they were spreading in big tech that it
was false was a complete joke. We'll discuss this more
also as we come back at the top of the
next hour. Just shooting, it's awful, it's tragic in La
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how quickly the Democrats to run to try to turn
it into their narrative.
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Monday edition
of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We have
a lot to talk to you all about. Thank you
for being here with us. Over the weekend, you had
(00:20):
a protest that turned into a riot. An individual was
killed after shooting at Georgia State Patrol officers. The media
was saying it was a mostly peaceful protest despite the
fact there was bullets. There were bullets flying at police officers.
There were there were incendiary devices basically bombs found on
(00:43):
some of them, all over what was supposed to be
a training facility for law enforcement. So that's where we
are with that. We also have Mayor Eric Adams Clay
some speculation he could be planning a white house run
after raising enormous amounts of money and just a day
(01:05):
one point two seven million dollars one year into his
first term. We'll discuss that in a little bit, but
I wanted to start us. Oh, and there was a
mass shooting in Los Angeles, a horrific shooting over the weekend,
and because of the perpetrator, who has already taken his
own life. Democrats have very quickly changed the story, changed
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their view of whether this is something we have to
talk about or not. But let's start with this, Clay,
because this is just the truth everybody. I actually was
one behind. I'm trying to keep track of how many
of how many times they find classified information in Joe
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Biden's possession, illegally meeting out a place that is unsecured,
just for all the libs in the media out there
who they can't They don't know the rules, they know
the law, they don't like to read. They just want
to kind of be on camera or put archy stuff
on Twitter. It's a huge violation of classified handling protocols.
I thought it was four, Clay. You think we're on
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five now, right. I actually can't even take it into
You have to go back and look at the various
iterations of this. There's also a new White House Chief
of Staff incoming, which I think is interesting. Who was
the COVID czar under Biden. But let's start, if we can,
with at what point is yet another batch of classified found.
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Remember this is not willfully taken by a president, kept
in secure storage, under surveillance in one location. This is
a non president vice president who does not have declassification
authority taking this stuff home like he's reading Car and
Driver over the weekend and literally leaving it in the garage.
At what point has just become a true political liability?
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At what point is it no longer possible for them
to keep the defense of all things Biden going. I
think it's there and for people were the weekend, and
I understand how you could miss it, because when I
saw it, I just kind of rolled my eyes. They
have officially had to call in the Department of Justice.
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And what I would say, maybe we can get our
friend Andrew McCarthy on later this week, because I'd be
curious how he would analyze this. But my thought is,
when you bring in the FBI and the Department of Justice,
it's probably them saying, if you don't let us do this,
we're gonna have to go get a warrant and do
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this search on our own. And so they allowed it
to happen with their attorneys still present. But yeah, Buck,
this is now the fifth different time that they have
had to announce that they have found classified documents. And
remember when this began. My question for you was it
felt like a cluster, because every one of these drip
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drip drip stories embarrassing. But if the White House had
been able to control this, and they had said, hey,
we in the wake of the Donald Trump incident, decided
to undergo an exhaustive search of all of Joe Biden's
private files and private papers, and we have found several
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different documents with classified markings on them and have turned
them over to the National Archives. And they had told
that story once, and they had said, hey, we looked
at every possible residence, every possible location. We did a
deep search for classified documents, just to make sure that
we were complying. It would have been a mess, but
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it wouldn't have been the mess that this is turned into.
And Buck, you mentioned what I think is so significant here.
They made a big argument not only that Trump had
these documents, but that they weren't secured. Do you remember
the front page New York Times story within a few
feet of where everyone partied, Donald Trump had classified documents
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as if and they had to map up to show
people Mara Lago and where the classified documents were and
what a security risk it was. And you and I
came on and we said, look in order to move
around the Mara Lago property at all, you have to
be wanted, You have to be vetted to even enter
onto that property. When you come in, they want your name,
they want your birds, you know, your driver's license number,
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everything else to even allow you access to that premises
in the first place. And so when they initially reported these,
they had all the Biden defenders come out and say, well,
this is totally different. This is how you're going to
supposed to handle it. And then they had to Corvette
and the classified documents by it, and they just continued
this drip drip drip of incompetence, and in the process,
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I think they've cut a lot of people's legs off.
And Buck you mentioned the idea that Eric Adams might
run as a as the mayor of New York City
for president. Joe Mansion came out and said he might
run for president. Now, that would be an easy way
for him to potentially avoid having to run for reelection
in West Virginia and make it look like his choice,
because then he runs for president and if he fails,
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which I think he would at least, that's kind of
like him riding off into the sunset and declaring independence
from the Democrats. However you want to classify it. But
I think increasingly it's becoming likely that somebody with resources
is going to challenge Biden. I would still be very
surprised if Biden isn't going to run. But I think
this classified document scandal, the decision by his chief of staff,
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who we've talked about, ron Klain for a long time,
to step down and no longer be managing this White House,
it feels to me like Biden is a drift at
sea a bit, and there is going to be a challenger.
And I think that challenger may well emerge in the
next month or two, and then we'll see how serious
that challenge is going to be. I also think it's
noteworthy because we often say here on the show Clay
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that not only have they refused to punish the people
who got COVID so wrong, I mean, I mean, I
just mean professionally, never mind whether there should be any
sanction beyond that, but you know, fired like I think
people should lose their jobs over being wrong and also
horrifyingly wrong on all things COVID, But the incoming White
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House chief of staff, I want, I want everyone to
hear this. This is Jeff Zenz. Is that how you
say it? I'm not sure how you pronounced his name.
I thought I was hoping you were gonna know. Yeah,
you know, I take a stab at it. Jeff Zenz.
This was him in December of twenty twenty one. This
is not, you know, ancient history. Here is him weighing in.
He was the covid tzar for Biden, not a very
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prominent one in terms of the media coverage, and here
he is letting you know what he thinks of well
a lot of you play clip one. We are intent
on not letting Amicron disrupt work in school. For the vaccinated,
you've done the right thing and we will get through this.
For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe
illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals
(08:00):
you may soon overwhelm. For the unvaccinated. Basically, you're all
gonna die or you're gonna kill people, and you're gonna
overwhelm hospitals and your monsters. This guy should be begging, yeah, sorry,
what No, I was just gonna say. This was the
guy who conveyed the winner of death argument, which is
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maybe the worst possible statement of all that Joe Biden
put out, And like you said, he's getting promoted. He
is being elevated. So in case anyone's wondering what they
do when they get everything wrong, and they, by all
objective standards, should be ashamed of themselves, promotion time in
the Biden White House. That's how they operate over there.
Because he was a soldier for the cause of the
(08:42):
left and the fact that he said all this stuff
that's obviously untrue, and as never, how is it that
no one in the press has pushed him on this?
Why isn't he being asked at the first opportunity, Hey,
you said that hospitals will be over overrun with the unvaccinated.
In fact, the vaccination didn't stop hospittle levels from going
to exactly what they would have been without the vaccine.
(09:03):
The thing didn't even work. So how about that he's
gonna be White House Chief of staff, which I would
I would note, you know, Clay if Ron Klaine was
the de facto president or whatever. People argue, does that
mean that Jeff Ziens I believe I've been told is
how you pronounced this? Does that mean that Jeff is
now the chief behind the scenes guy making decisions for Biden,
(09:26):
who at this point, given the fact that there's classified
in five different batches of this have now been found, Okay,
they're now thinking about looking I believe at the Rohobeth
Beach house. Right, Isn't that the latest? As it is
tough to keep it all together because they keep saying, oh,
we found it all, it's over, it's good, we're cooperating.
But this is the last of it. Five times it's
not the last of it. And I wonder when the
(09:50):
shift to not only do we have to search all
of Joe Biden's properties. This is where the Hunter Biden
connection can come in because I wonder how it's going
to be until they say, okay, let's start to search
some of the Biden family members who had access potentially
to these classified documents. And I'll also note that unlike
with the Trump investigation, where the FBI took all the
(10:13):
photos of the classified documents a rate on the floor,
the FBI, to my knowledge, didn't take any pictures of
the classified documents inside Joe Biden's house that they took
possession of, so that propaganda aspect has not occurred. Also,
we haven't had any leaks really about any of the
details surrounding. It didn't take very long for the Washington
Post to come out and say, oh, these were extremely
(10:36):
sensitive documents. They involved potentially the nuclear codes. Well, all
we've gotten is kind of a generic sense. They said
one involved Ukraine, Iran and England. I think on the
initial pin Biden document discovery, we haven't heard anything about
the document since Why would he bring these home? This
is another question I'm wondering. And if you senate, a
(10:58):
lot of the senators buck have said you couldn't never
take the stuff out of the Senate and be able
to get this at you know, home. Well, I mean
it's illegal, right, and so that's why you wonder. Okay,
even if Biden has a skiff, a secure compartmented information facility,
which is where you are allowed to have classified and
for example, you know a president, the president goes to
(11:20):
Camp David, but there's a skiff at Camp David, right,
I mean, when when you're talking about that level of
government official, Uh, there are there are places where they
where they go outside of the standard you know, the
White House, the Pentagon where you can have classified information.
But even if that were the case, why why would
he have left it? Or or you know, why would
he have left those those areas? With this, there is
(11:42):
clear this is what I'm getting to recklessness here, And
I think that the way that they could honestly defend
against the recklessness. I think the way they could do
that would be to say that Biden is really old
and has made some and as cognition is challenged and
was challenging Eve when he was vice president. But they
(12:03):
can't make that argument because they're gonna try to make
this guy president for four more years. I think it's likely,
And so they're left with what exactly Now you've noticed
there's these the move has now become clay that tepid. Well,
this is not entirely responsible. I am not super proud
of Biden's head, like they've sort of done a little
(12:24):
bit of this, you know what I mean, But they're
just hoping that the storm passes. I'm not so sure
it's an easy thing for him to pack. Legally, they're
gonna make this thing go away. From that, I'm very
confident of. But politically this looks bad. Now. This has
gone from like, oh, doesn't everyone make mistakes? To Joe
Biden's a reckless clown. Yeah, and that's why I think
he's gonna have a challenger. Now I'm not sure who
(12:46):
that challenger is who's going to step in the ring
with him, but I think ultimately Buck, when some of
this data comes out, what we're going to see is that,
for instance, the Senate classified documents were things that Joe
Biden felt entitled to keep, in other words, almost memorabilia,
in the same way that a lot of the dispute
(13:06):
over what Trump kept seems to be rooted in, hey,
this is my property. This is memorabilia from my time
as president that Kim Jong Oon letters are a great
example of that. He thought that those were his possession.
And I think that you're going to find out that
Joe Biden had a very similar way of thinking. That's
the only thing that can make sense to me about
(13:28):
how he could end up with classified documents from all
the way back to his Senate career. And then you
have to wonder how did he travel with these? Was
he carrying them on the train, you know, in his
briefcase back up to Delaware, which is the usual way
that Joe Biden would have traveled. How did the vice
president makes a little bit more sense because they're packing
up the office in a hurry. The Senate classified documents
(13:51):
to me is much more challenging to explain away. And again,
to me, it emboldened somebody who could be a challenger,
whether it's Joe Manchin, whether it's Eric Adams. He might
get challenged on both flanks. Buck, which would be interesting,
Joe man Which was the last time we had a
real challenge? Right? Well, when was the last time we
had a real challenge to an incumbent president from his
own party? Clay gotta go. I mean, I think you'd
(14:12):
almost have to go back to what George w George
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were just talking about it. Buck was mentioning Eric Adams,
mayor of New York City, traveled down to the border.
(15:39):
We talked some about that has become a fairly consistent
critic of Joe Biden. On some facets, Joe Mansion is
saying it's too early to rule out anything, whether he
might run for president, whether he's going to switch parties.
Listen to this. You run for office in twenty twenty four,
you're gonna run at check out and made a decision
what I'm gonna do twenty four. I got two years
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ahead of me now to do the best I can
for the state and for my country. What's on the
table is reelection on the table. Everything's on the table
is running from governor on the table or no, no,
I've done that. That you've ruled out. I've done that.
So everything on the table. There's basically only one other thing,
the presidency. Is that something you would do outside the
Democratic Party. The only thing I can tell you is
what I will do is whatever I can, And I
(16:22):
make my decision when I think is the best that
I can support and represent the people of West Virginia
but also be true to this country and the constitution
of this country. Yeah, and classic Joe Mansion fashion clay.
Everything's on the table, meaning Democrat, Republican, Independent, you know,
maybe run for president and maybe open a new card dealership. Whatever.
I'm sorry, Joe Mansion. We remember what happened with Joe Mansion.
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We need a Republican senator for West Virginia. Everybody, don't
get fooled by Mansions. Oh, I'm totally reasonable. I'm no, no, no.
He went along with the big spending. Now we're thirty
one trillion dollars in debt. People need to pay it.
To mention, I think he's done as a senator, and
I think he knows that. My world of thought is
(17:07):
that he was kind of secretly hoping Republicans would take
back control of the Senate because then he could flip
and it wouldn't be that significant. It wouldn't you know,
it's fifty two to fifty three or something like that.
Now if he flips, given what Cinema has done, it's
a huge mess. And I think he knows he's kind
of painted into a corner. And Guyegos already is going
to run against Cinema from a Democrat side, right, so
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to Clay and Buck. Over the weekend, some violence breaking
out in the Atlanta area a riot. That's it's interesting
when a riot starts starts off as a protest. The
Democrats involved around this in the media will say it
(18:53):
is a peaceful protest that turned into something else. Some
protests get the benefit of the doubt. Others, obviously are
the biggest threat to our democracy since you know, Pearl
Harbor or whatever. But I want to tell you about this,
this riot that occurred over the weekend. So there's something
in the Atlanta area that activists or it's the Atlanta
(19:17):
Police Department training facility that's being built, which these leftists
are calling cop City. So there was a group and
it was clay over the weekend. I was trying to
dive into all this. A group that called themselves the
Forest Defenders, who were showing up and engaging in destructive
(19:38):
and criminal acts. They were sabotaging things and because they
didn't want cop City as they call it, to be built,
because they thought that this is just the enshrining of
the police date or something. It's fascinating, isn't it. The
activists say they want just better training for police and
de escalation, and you're going to build this large, multi
(19:59):
dis sciplinary law enforcement training facility to do that kind
of stuff, de escalation, non lethal whatever. And then the
leftists are saying, oh, but it's gonna take too many
trees and the environmental impact and the enshrining of police
because they're lunatics. But the Democrats in the media all
have a lot of sympathy for this and for this movement.
(20:22):
But this was particularly this is particularly egregious. There was
a lethal shooting here, law enforcement involved shooting of a
protester who opened fire on a Georgia State Patrol trooper. Yea,
So one of these forest defender lunatics pulls a gun
and start shooting at Georgia State basically Georgia State Police. Right,
(20:46):
Georgia State Police returns fire and kills him and then
other forest defenders. These are all Biden voters. By the way,
leftists decide that they're going to burn down you know,
they burned a police vehicle and they're destroying things and
engaging in a riot, and somehow we're supposed to think
(21:08):
that this is peaceful protests that just got a little
out of hand. The whole thing is lunatic stuff. Yeah,
and if you haven't seen the videos, definitely worth watching.
The videos buck they arrested six Antifa. It appears activist
right in some way these groups are connected. All six
(21:32):
were from outside of Atlanta. I believe five were from
out of state. One was from Decatur, Georgia, which is
a suburb basically of Atlanta. The other five, I believe
we're from out of state, all white people. So I
just want to point this out. You have out of
state rioters that are showing up in Atlanta and are burning, looting, pillaging,
(21:58):
engaging in violent behavior. And on CNN, which has a
substantial footprint in Atlanta, they have a spokesperson go on
air and basically say, oh yeah, I mean, you know,
it's a cliche because we've had to go through this
so many times, but the amount of time that they
say this is, you know, essentially mostly peaceful protests. We have. Actually,
(22:23):
we have a journalist on CNN here saying, let's not
remember they marched because they were outraged that a leftist
pulled the gun and started firing at cops and they
fired back and killed him. So they're outraged that that happened,
and then they're marching in Atlanta and they decide that
a group of them, as you said, six have been arrested. Basically, antiphamaniacs,
(22:46):
their domestic terrorists, everybody, that's actually what they are. Let's
just use the proper terminology, which you won't hear that
on MSNBC or CNN. They start smashing things, destroying property
and lighting a police car on fire. And this is
what they're saying over at CNN, is this is all happening?
Play seven. I think that there's a real blurring of
(23:07):
the lines in the use of the word violence. Is
property destruction violence to some people? It certainly is. But
you know this idea that breaking windows or other acts
of property destruction are the same as actual violence against humans,
It's kind of a dangerous and slippery concept, you know,
(23:29):
you keep using these words violent, violent, violent, violent. The
only acts of violence against people that I saw were
actually police tackling protesters. Okay, okay, so this is fascinating.
This is the this is on CNN's air or whatever.
You hear that the only violence. Now he leaves out
the violence of the maniac shooting at and trying to
murder police officers, which then spurred this whole protest on
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the streets. But the whole point of the property destruction
is yes, economic pain, but it's also clay meant to intimidate.
You could argue by this guy same logic. Hey, I
just went into a bank and held a gun up
and said fill my bag full of money. I didn't
hurt anybody, right. The impression or the belief that violence
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is imminent is also something that has to be police
When you're lighting car, when you're throwing things and lighting
cars on fire, I think people are right to think
that's unsafe. You are threatening my physical safety as well
as destroying property. When a police car is burning, that
is the essence of violence. So the argument of oh,
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it's just property, no, no, no, When you burn a
police cruiser, that is violent behavior. And to the credit
of the it's a newly elected mayor of Atlanta. He's
been in this office relatively short period of time, Andre Dickens.
He replaced Kesha Lance Bottoms, who I believe is in
the Biden administration now, and she was fired up about
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all the crime related issues, but just a decided not
to run. Really, the mayor race in Atlanta turned on
who could stamp down on violent crime the most. And
I think this is interesting that the mayor of Atlanta
pointed out that these violent protesters were from outside of
Atlanta and came to the city of Atlanta. Again, Atlanta
is a majority black city. We have six white antifoot
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protesters arrested committing acts of violence. The mayor wasn't standing
for it. Listen, they had a protest last night and
it was peaceful, but there were some individuals within that
crowd that meant violence. They had explosives, they burned down
a police car, they broke windows, had businesses, and so
our police department, along with our state and federal partners,
(25:43):
took swift action within two blocks and brought that situation
under control and the violent stop and those six individuals
were arrested. And it should be noted that these individuals
were not Atlanta or Georgia residents. Most of them traveled
into our city to wreak. Having Now he's saying some
of the right things here, and that's why you're pitching,
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which is a change, right from a big city mayor
for a change finally saying we got to stamp this out.
All of the all of the leftists out there, they're
running out of excuses and explanations for why whenever people
do what the anti police left wants. Everyone is less safe,
(26:24):
there's more violence and destruction, and there's urban decay, and
the whole thing turns into a mess. They're running out
of ways to explain to people. Yeah, enforcing the law
less and deciding that you're going to use social justice
instead of criminal justice for police departments. This isn't gonna
work anymore and more and more players of seeing it. Actually,
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you bring this up New Orleans, which has the highest
per capita murder rate of any major city, which is
so I mean, I know you agree with that. I
love New Orleans. I think it's one of the coolest,
best towns in the whole country. It's a top ten
city for me in America. I love it. Far too
violent right now, obviously, far too much violence going on
in that city. Mayor LaToya Cantrell spoke about it and
(27:06):
said some stuff that is on the right track. Listen
to this play ten. New Orleans has the highest per
capita murder rate of any major city. Why. Why is
because one dealing with COVID nineteen violence, everyone has guns.
The lack of the ability to resolve a conflict without
reaching and pulling a gun. Also, as it relates to accountability.
(27:29):
You know, low lining offenses, you know, when they don't
get bailed or they're not restrained. Then we're just saying
how these crimes escalate. People need to be held accountable
across the board. Click. Can I just say so? Obviously
the first thing you said about COVID is preposterous, but
that's been a Democrat talking point for a long time
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now to try to cover up the decay of the
of these Democrat controlled cities. I think though, this is
part of what you're going to see this this slow shift. Oh,
it's still about you know, COVID or police training or whatever.
But she uses this word accountability. What that really means
is locking up criminals and enforcing the law. The inescapable
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truth that even Democrats are not having to face is
you have to lock up criminals, you have to enforce
the law or else not only does this stay, it
gets worse. And that's where we are. And they're also
slowly having to come to the grips with the fact
that this is all George Floyd protests related. The data
does not reflect that this occurred because of COVID. It's
because Democrats made a conscious decision in the wake of
(28:33):
one viral video out of Minneapolis to brand all police
as evil and also to essentially tell their base, which
is a large portion of many cities, you don't have
to respect or comply with police anymore. And in fact,
if you get arrested, you're the victim of a structural
racist society. And as a result, crime skyrocketed. And now
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you're seeing that people don't like crime skyrockets in the cities.
I mean, you talk about New Orleans, buck for many
people who've been down there, it has gotten to the
point now where if you stray a little bit outside
of the main streets in the French Quarter, you go
very far off Bourbon Street at all. It's not safe.
And the number one lifeblood for New Orleans and all
those businesses is what tourism. And if people don't feel
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comfortable coming on the road and taking a vacation in
New Orleans because of the as you pointed out rightfully,
the highest rate of murder of any decent sized city
in America, then everything starts to fall apart. And everything
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an insane world. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
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We are powering through the first hour here and Buck.
This news just came down in the last hour or so.
The FBI official who investigated Trump ties to Russia has
been arrested for his own illegal ties to Russia. And
(31:32):
let me just hit you with some of the details
I'm reading from ABC News. Former top FBI official. This
is their headline, Charles McGonagall arrested overties to a Russian oligarch.
And again, this is the guy who investigated Trump for
Russia collusion. A former top FBI official in New York
(31:52):
has been arrested over his ties to a Russian oligarch.
He was the special agent in charge of counterintelligence. This guy,
Charles McGonagall in the FBI's New York Field office. He
retired from the FBI in twenty eighteen. He's charged with
violating US sanctions by attempting to get an oligarch off
(32:12):
the sanctions list. He is one of the highest ranking
former FBI officials ever charged with a crime. And this
is intriguing because again, this was the guy who was
involved in trying to prove Russia collusion involving Trump. So
(32:34):
kind of an incredible irony here that the guy who
investigated Trump for Russia collusion actually gets arrested for his
own Russia collusion inside of the FBI. It is amazing
that once again the maxim that they always accused you
of what they're doing. Yes, couldn't be more true here.
There was no Russia Trump collusion. It was always a fantasy,
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and it was bizarre how much the FBI believed it.
It was bizarre that the intelligence community, and now I
know they hated Trump and their liars and all that,
but there were some who really did think that they
were going to find this. I mean, that's clear from
their internal communications. And it had to come that notion
had to come from somewhere. Well, when you have the
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guy who was the special Agent in charge of counterintelligence
in New York, which, by the way, the for the
FBI in terms of national security sensitivity, counterintelligence is that
remember anything that's you know, foreign, I got news for
everybody when you go overseas. CIA is it's their domain, right,
I mean, FBI is a law enforcement agency, and so
(33:40):
CIA takes primacy on external intelligence operations. So they're doing
the really sensitive stuff abroad. But if you're talking about
very very sensitive stuff, especially here at home, if that
falls into the FBI, Bailey Wick and counterintelligence is the
very top of that heat. So you have somebody who
was helping a sanctioned Russian involved in counterintelligence investigations of
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Russians and Russian oligarchs at the highest level, taking payment
from He was getting paid off by oligarch's clay. So
he was also supposed to be the guy making sure
that oligarchs weren't doing things like paying off FBI agents.
That's what his job was. It is pretty remarkable. And
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you know when you look at all of the people
Alec Baldwin who have gotten charged with crimes. Of course
Ali Baldwin the most recent celebrity, but the amount of
people who said Trump is going to end up charged
with crimes and in prison who have gotten charged with
their own crimes really pretty remarkable, and how little attention.
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I'm curious how much discussion there will be surrounding this.
But again, I still say the most important single question
we need to get to the bottom of in this
country today is who inside of the FBI essentially ordered
the code read on the hunter Biden's story to try
(35:13):
to cover it up right, because they knew the laptop
was real, and yet they allowed big Tech to spread
the lie that this laptop was Russian disinformation. I don't
think Clay that there was one node that spread this.
I think they all. I think they all just looked
at each other, like, we know, we got to do here,
anything to defeat Trump, anything to hell Biden win. So
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I'm not even sure that you'll ever find a record
of it. The collusion was just based on their beliefs,
and it was implied before they even had to sit
down and talk. I think the one somebody has to
know the laptop is real, So I think they may
have not told some of these lower level FBI agents
who went out and spread this idea because The knowledge
(35:56):
may have been diffuse inside of the FBI, but there
are several people at the top of the FBI who
had to know this Underbiden laptop was real, and that
the idea they were spreading in big tech that it
was false was a complete joke. We'll discuss this more
also as we come back at the top of the
next hour. Just shooting, it's awful, it's tragic in La
(36:18):
how quickly the Democrats to run to try to turn
it into their narrative.
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