June 21, 2021 • 37 mins
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton open their first program. Clay: Nobody can replace Rush, but we pledge to fight the battles Rush did against leftism, cancel culture. Buck: Rush is the reason we're here. Rush was the force multiplier of conservatism. DeSantis wins GOP straw poll over the weekend, Clay posts his own on Twitter. The anti-LGBT hate crime/terrorist attack that wasn't in Florida. The left has DeSantis in their crosshairs. Twitter is 8% of the population and votes like Portland. The media narrative never fits the truth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. I'm Clay Travis, I'm Buck Sexton, and
you are listening to The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Show live from our studio in Nashville, Tennessee. We appreciate
all of you wherever you are listening around this great
country or this great world, and we know that we
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are stepping into the time slot of one of the
greatest individuals to ever do radio, if not the greatest
individual that has ever done radio in the history of
this medium. And that's why we're consistently not ever going
to say that we are replacing Rush Limbaugh, because no
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one is ever going to replace Rush Limbaugh. But what
we are going to do is continue the fights that
Rush Limbaugh fought so eloquently and so spectacularly for so
many years. Because we know that all of you out
there listening right now, there is an element of fear
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in this country that I think for generations we have
not ever actually had to deal with. And I think
there's a huge number of you out there right now
listening to us who have picked up your phones at
some point in time thought about sending a tweet, thought
about posting something on Facebook, thought about sending something on Instagram,
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But you are so terrified about what might happen if
you share your actual opinion that you didn't do it.
And if you haven't had that thought, I guarantee you
that you've had that thought about your kids, or your
grandkids or someone in your family and worried that if
you actually say what you think, you are going to
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find yourself in the midst of a cancel culture storm.
And we are here. This is one of the great
things about the platform that we have as big tech
is strangling down and circumscribing what everybody can say and
what they can't say, as there is a overwhelming atmosphere
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of censorship that is descending across the country and continuing
to grow. Buck Sexton and I are so incredibly excited
and so incredibly grateful to be able to talk to
all of you every single day and help to fight
the battles that Rush Limbaugh fought for generations for decades,
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and we are going to be the voice for many
people who do not feel like they have a right
to share their voice, and we are going to be
the absolute most honest show. I believe anywhere that you
are going to find in rate or any other medium.
And one of the reasons that this show is going
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to continue to be so powerful is an era when
so many people, whether it's YouTube, whether it's Google, whether
it's Amazon, so many places out there are keeping you
from being able to be exposed to the truth and
to the facts. Radio it's an old medium, Buck, but
it's one of the most reliable out there. We're going
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to be able to talk to all of you directly
and help to make I really do believe this the
country a better, smarter place, and maybe, just maybe we're
going to be able, I believe to win a lot
of the battles that matter going forward. Now, some of
you may have heard my voice before, and I bring
it up just because I had the incredible good fortune
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seven years ago in twenty fourteen to fill in for
the late great Rush Limbaugh, and then a number of
times afterwards. I bring it up because one thing that
Clay and I have been absolutely dedicated to from the
very beginning here is that we understand that there's a mission.
We understand that there is a fight ahead. It would
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be hard to think of a more difficult time in
living memory in this country for conservatives to feel like
they're getting a fair shot in the marketplace of ideas,
that in this culture war, we're not seeming to just
seed ground every day. And what was Rush Well, he
was a valiant warrior for his cause, but he was
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also in military parlance. I know there are a lot
of you out there who are current or former military.
He was the great force multiplier. Rush Limbaugh is the
reason I do talk radio. Rush Limbaugh is the reason
so many others across the country are even in this medium.
He was the one that we all looked to. He
was the leader of this movement. And there's a whole
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generation now or multiple generations really of people who are
taking up the fight for conservatism because of what Rush
Limbaugh stood for and what he meant. So we show
up here in this studio together, Clay and I every
day trying to do honor to that memory, and we
understand that this is something that is sacred to all
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of us and to all of you. We will be
your advocates in this. We will be the people who
try to spread the message of conservatism across the country
and continue on that work of Rush as a force
multiplier as somebody who inspired so many others. It was
a huge break in my career and a huge moment
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in my life when I got to sit at the
mighty EIB Mike seven years ago. I couldn't have thought
at the time that here I'd be sitting with Clay
and now on hundreds of stations across the country, trying
to take up the mantle, trying to continue on in
that fight. My great hope here is that we will
make all of you proud, that we will make the
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memory of Rush proud, and we'll do everything that we
can to fight for this country that we love so
very much. And you will be a critical part that process.
Your phone calls, your emails, your notes to us. We
want this audience to feel as interactive as possible with
us throughout the course of this show, because we are
here to represent you, to speak for you, to connect,
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to make sure that you understand why we're showing up
every day, what this mission really is all about. And
we're going to do our darn best. And with that
I mean Clay, I think everyone should know a bit
about who mister Clay Travis is and who I because
we're also going to have fun here. I mean, there's
the overarching mission, but there's going to be this whole
other component of two guys who have a whole lot
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of interests and background that they either bring to this
or they share, and they want everyone understand why it
is that we're doing this every day, no doubt. Early.
Happy Father's Day, late, I guess I should say Happy
Father's Day to everybody out there. I spent my weekend
coaching Little League baseball. I have three boys, thirteen year old,
a ten year old, and the six year old. I
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cared desperately, not only about what's going on in the
country for the adults out there, but I think a
lot more now about the country through the eyes of
my three kids and what we are going to leave
to them and all the other younger guys and girls
out there who are growing up right now in one
of the most tumultuous times in certainly modern American history.
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Some of you have been listening to me for a while.
For the past six years, I've been doing Fox Sports
Radio mornings six to nine AM all over the country,
and so for everybody who's coming in that has been
listening to the OutKick the Coverage show, that I have
been doing for those pastax years. Welcome back into this show.
I think we're going to continue to have a lot
of fun here as well. And a lot of you
Red and Or have been paying attention to the content
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that we put out at a website called OutKick dot com,
which Fox recently bought, and we've been fighting a lot
of these battles over the past several years. Buck. One
reason I was so comfortable making the transition from sports
talk radio to this show is because sport has basically
become politics in many ways, and certainly in the COVID
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air we did three months, four months basically of sports
talk radio with no sports going on, and a lot
of that discussion was about, Hey, we have to get
back to playing sports. We have to find a way
to play college athletics. We can't allow the IVY League
to dictate everything. I fought hard for the Big Ten
to be able to play for the Pact twelve, to
be able to play for the NFL and the NBA
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in the NHL and Major League Baseball, to find ways
to play amidst this COVID mess. And so we already
got a couple of sports stories. We're going to dive
intoday Supreme Court issuing a major ruling on the NC DOUBLEA,
we got a trans athlete qualifying for the Olympics. Sports
has become integrally intertwined in many ways now with the
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world of politics in particular, and I think it's gonna
be a lot of fun, Buck, because you're coming in. Hey,
six years in the CIA, you know what it's like
on the ground in many ways, in so many of
these issues that we're going to be talking about. You're
far more informed than a lot of people who go
on television and certainly a lot of people who come
on the radio and try to talk about them. Yeah,
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I just by way of quick background for everybody listening
in case you didn't get it. I think I maybe
fill in for Rush about a dozen times back in
the day, starting in twenty fourteen. But I've also been
doing a show syndicated through Premiere Radio Networks from six
to nine Eastern for the last five years. My math
on this maybe off, but I think it's the last
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five years. I got into this business, Clay because of
that sense of mission. Quite honestly, I was in the
CIA because of nine to eleven, Yes, and so I
went over in New Yorker, a New Yorker born and
raised in New York City. Unmarried, but as I keep
telling my parents, I'm working on it, getting closer. So
no kids, no marriage for me quite yet, but I'm
working on it. But anyway, I joined the CIA because
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of nine to eleven was the first thing I wanted
to do as soon as I got out of school.
You were how old when nine to eleven happened? I
was a sophomore in college, so I joined in the CIA.
The Counter terr M Center ended up deploying to Iraq
and Afghanistan, and I came back and spent about eighteen
months with the NYPD in Telnce Division, which will come
into some of our discussion today about domestic We've got
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a mayoral election in New York tomorrow, basically, right, that's right,
A big election that has implications for the whole country
in terms of the politics and the narrative. I know
New York City politics may not be at the top
of everybody's mind, but what it shows about crime, so
I'm a New York native, We'll get into some of that.
I joined conservative media because God bless him, Glenn Beck
found me just basically heard about me. I'd never done
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a word of media, never done a sink of never
published a single anything. And Glenn said, don't go to
business school and become a Wall Street guy, which was
the plan. Work come work for me out of the CIA,
and I went right out of government work to start
at the Blaze with Glenn and then syndicated radio managed
to fill in for Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Rush
Limbaugh on radio and been doing political talk radio now
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for going on almost ten years. So that's when I
bring to this and that's my focus. And certainly in
the national security side, Clay and I are going to
be having a lot of really fascinating discussions here. But
we mentioned terrorists. In this case, we have a terrorism
story that wasn't and this is to me indicative of
everything that's wrong with the country from social media because
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down in Fort Lauderdale we had a alleged terror LGBT attack.
We're gonna play some of the audio for you that
completely blew up and was not in any way representative
of what the true facts were. We're going to dive
into that and how it might be impacting because it
happened in Florida. Already people talking a lot about the
twenty twenty four presidential campaign. There was a straw pole,
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a new one out. Who is the favorite? Who do
you guys think the favorite should be. I'm gonna put
up a poll and let everybody vote. I'll give you
the top four. You can follow me on Twitter at
Clay Travis. You can follow the show at Clay and Buck.
We're also going to punch back on social media, even
though we're drastically overwhelmed. There hashtag Clay and Buck. You
can stream the show. We appreciate all the four hundred
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on us. This is the largest radio show launch of
all time in terms of a new show, so we
appreciate all the affiliates out there. We'll have a podcast
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in how to consume the content if you're not able
to listen to every minute of which open you will
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You can follow us on Twitter. I appreciate if you
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back in Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm Clay Travis.
We are rolling through the program. We're about to play
you the latest idiocy to trend on social media death
santis has become very popular. I just put up, by
the way, a poll question, Buck Sexton. We're gonna get
into this one a little bit. You can go vote
at Clay Travis also at Clay and Buck. Go follow
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us on Twitter. Please, we're gonna try to punch back
on social media and actually win some of these battles occasionally,
but most recent straw Pole for twenty twenty four, these
top Republican candidates were the top vote getters Ronda Santis,
Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Mike Pompeo. Which of those four
would be your preferred candidate right now in twenty twenty four?
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That will be interesting too. Unpack a bit as we
moved throughout the first hour of this program. I'm curious
to see how you guys are voting in that. But
let's go ahead and get a call in here quickly.
John in Savannah, Georgia, breaking the ice, becoming the first caller. John,
I don't want you to have a lot of pressure
on you, but you do have a ton here. Don't
blow it. Thanks, no pressure. I just wanted to say
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thank you. It sounds good. It's a great start. As
I told the screener, keep up the good work. It
sounds like everything's gonna go well. And it's a ray
of hope. I think it's a ray of hope for
the country. You're getting us back in the right direction.
And I've been a cop for thirty five years. As
I sit here in my car with the uniform on
and thank you. Keep it up and it sounds good. Wow, John,
thank you. We want calls like John. Yeah, thirty five
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years as a police officer and you know this book
as you worked, like you said, eighteen months in New
York Police Department. It's never been a tougher time in
anybody's life right now to be a cop. Then right now,
I actually have a member of my family who was
a police officer in Savannah for a number even or not. Yeah. No,
the anti police narrative something we're gonna be talking about
today on the show because we will look at not
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just the viral stories that are out there from just
over this weekend, Clay. It's something that we're constantly trying
to cover more because it goes against the narrative, but
the anti cop storylines that were told over the last year. Unfortunately,
we're seeing how this plays out, and as I have
been saying now for a while on radio, it makes
everything worse for everybody, and that's for the cops, for
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the communities, for everybody. Things are worse off now because
of the undermining of police for purely political reasons by
the left and the Democrats. There's no doubt if you
look at the data. And of course this story is
not getting talked about anywhere near as much as it should,
although we talked about this a little bit earlier. Tomorrow
is a New York City mayor race, effectively, because the
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Democratic primary will decide who the mayor is going to be.
And the number one topic has actually been crime. Because
in every state and every city where bl protests were
the most active, guess what happened. The overall murder rate
skyrocket and the people who were most likely to be
victims of that violence black and brown, you know. And
the other thing that's associated here in many ways, Buck,
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is that doesn't get any discussion at all. All the
cities that got all the attention when the protests were
going on, all the cameras were there, they all leave,
and then the murder rate skyrockets, crime rate skyrockets, which
is why even eighty percent of any inner city residence,
if you look at the data, Buck, they want police funded,
they want more of them. Well, what you find out
as well is that a lot of the Democrat controlled cities,
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places like New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, name one, really
they take the exact wrong lesson from the very smike
in crime that you're talking about. They decided, you know what,
maybe we should be even more lax, Maybe we should
send in more social workers. We haven't send in enough
social workers, Clay. That's the approach they take. They want
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Back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. It
was a tragic accident, but at first they didn't say that.
That's not how it was reported. In fact, you saw
a lot of politics, a lot of narrative. Immediately afterwards,
there was an accident at a pride parade in Fort Lauderdale,
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and initially the mayor went to Twitter to say that
this was quote a terrorist attack against the LGBTQ community.
He the driver of the truck came to destroy people.
This was clearly no accident end quote. The problem, Clay
is that it was clearly an accident, whichever now admits,
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and we should get into why they got this so wrong.
But you have more details. Yeah, Look, this was a
seventy seven year old individual who was not healthy enough
to be able to actually march in the parade, and
so the idea was he was going to drive a
car to be in the parade. He evidently inadvertently hit
the accelerator as opposed to the break and ended up
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killing and severely injuring several people. You know this, Buck,
because you back in a different world, used to get
paid by CNN. They actually paid you, right, I was
a contributor. You are a contributor. I used to do
terrorism analysis at CNN. That was before CNN had lost
their mind and completely gone to the dogs. But Buck
Sex then employed there. And the number one rule of
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any incident such as this is what you wait until
you know. You wait till you are the facts. I
will say though that that's adjusted clay depending on the narrative,
based upon who the likely perpetractor, the likely perpetrators, ideology
and profile. That's what That's where, all of a sudden,
the rules get very hazy for some people. All right, well,
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this certainly was immediately immediately this was a terror attack.
Here is I can't believe this happened. But of course
you all can believe it happened, and we're going to
talk about the fallout. But the mayor or of Fort Lauderdale,
as soon as this incident happened, he ran straight to
the microphones. It spread and propagated throughout Twitter and social media,
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which we're going to discuss. But first, here is the
esteemed and I'm putting that in quotation marks the esteemed
mayor of Fort Lauderdale. I believe his name is Dean Trantalus.
And this is pretty much a disaster of leadership. Listen, well,
we saw it. It was a terrorist attack on the
LGBT community. This is disgusting. We will not stand for this.
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This is not going to happen in my city or
any city. Oh. First of all, I noticed buck he
left off the queues. He said it was only an
attack against the LGBT. I don't know how many more
letters there are now included in the LGBT community, but
I know that Q is in there and he left
it off. All of that's not true. The number one
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thing that we should rely on a mayor to do,
I think, in an incident such as this, stand in
front of the microphones and give us information and make
it reliable. Instead, everything that he said was false. Now
this is fascinating because it's a window into the mind
of the left in America right now, the Democrat Party broadly,
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and their view of their political opponents. Because what happened
here everyone agrees, as we've already described, that this was
clearly just a tragic accident. He read, some seven year
old man accidentally hit the accelerator. Was there to support
the parade, that's right. He's a member of the Gay
Men's Chorus actually, and had a Pride flag on the
back on the back of his pickup truck. But here's
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what happened. Pride parade, pickup truck, someone killed, and immediately
not just this politician, but the media apparatus around him,
the Democrat aligned media apparatus, The New York Times, CNN,
you all know what outlets we're talking about here. They
saw an opportunity to push the narrative right away of oh,
this was a hate crime, that's right. Now, why do
they have such a hair trigger, if you will, about
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calling for a hate crime like this. The background to
all of the two stories like this and other things
that we're seeing is that if you read those newspapers
that I meant New York Times, Washington Post. If you
watch those cable channels, you're being fed a steady diet
day in and day out of Trump supporters are a
constant threat. Hate crimes are on the rise because of
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the white nationalist Trump supporter threat out there. Another insurrection
is just moments away. So there's this constant anxiety that
creates this elevation of something like this, where everybody should
have said, hold on a second, like let's yeah. And
by the way, even in the initial reporting, it was
clear this did not it didn't add up to be
a terroistacked. But why did they go there and play
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as you know, they went even further somehow elderly fellow
accidentally tragic accident becomes Rhonda Santist is a murder hashtag
death Santists. Yes, there are political reasons for this that
we can all see, and I think a lot of
it has to be unpacked because to me, this is
indicative of the larger issues that we're facing in a
country today. Let me just say this, whatever you believe,
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there is evidence on the Internet to support it. It
doesn't matter what you believe, because we are a big
massive country of three hundred and thirty million people, and
at some point there is a viral video of someone
saying or doing something that you believe. The challenge that
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I think is out there. Social media, to your point,
runs long before the facts are out. And what fires
me up. And I want to listen to this again
because I want you to listen. This is an elected
mayor of a pretty decent sized city in America, This
Dean trantilis Fort Lauderdale. I want you to listen to
him again, and I want you to think about as
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you listen to everything that he said is false. Every
single word that he said is false. How many people
are never going to get the truth? Buck? Because they're
going to hear this, they're gonna see it in their
silos of media, and even though we now know it's
one hundred percent false, they're never going to get the correction.
It's like in the newspaper, an old school newspaper. I
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still like to read the old school newspaper. At the
front they write the corrections, tiny little print. Nobody ever
sees the correction. They believe the lie. They followed the
lie because the lie helps to drive the narrative that
is white supremacists are trying to take over this country.
None of you are safe if you're gay, if you're black,
if you're Asian, if you're Hispanic, unless, by the way, Buck,
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you happen to be Asian and get attacked by a
black guy, because then those videos disappear. The stories don't
get written first paragraph. Anytime a white guy does anything,
race gets described. New York Times, all those videos, all
those anti Asian hate crimes, first paragraph. The race never
gets described. If it's not a white guy who does it.
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I'm gonna say that there's also a clear and this
will tie into our Ronda Santists strawful discussion. The left
hates Desantists so much. The Democrats hate de Santis so
much because in him they see somebody who could pick
up the mantle of Trumpism, if you will, and then
we'll get into this is gonna be an ongoing discussion.
By no means are we settling this now, But that
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could happen. So here's the machinery. Think about this as though.
It's almost like you're at a factory and the media
has an assembly line and they're trying to produce. They're
trying to produce something a little neatly packaged, you know,
tidbit for all of its audience that they'll like, that
they'll enjoy. And that goes also to the purpose. There's
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what this left wing audience wants, and there's what this
left wing audience needs to be told to get them
mobilized politically. It will here's a hate crime. We're in
a elevated concern about hate crimes already because of Trump
and trumps M and white white nationalist because because of
the intentional exaggeration of that that's used to justify the
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oppression of Trump voters and tying it all together. But
then also they they looked for Ron descentists to just
sort of put him on the assembly line, so to speak.
Here because he had signed a bill that said that
if you're driving your car and people intentionally uh you know,
jam the roadway, that there was going to be some
protection for you from liability because you have these crazy
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things where people are at a BLM protest or an
antif riot and they jump on people's cars and people
are terrified and they do what a lot of people do.
His drive. But so they saw that, they said, ah,
let's immediately link the non tis to this incident and
say it's Ron Descentist's fault, because how many times are
they going to lie about him? Clay. They lied about
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Desists when it came to the Florida numbers. They lied
about him when it came to vaccine distribution, relationship with publics,
the sixty minute story, which was one hundred percent a
why I want everyone to know that the fake news
arsenal that was deployed for four years against Donald Trump,
you're already seeing it deployed against Ron de Santists. And
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there's a reason for that. And one of those reasons.
And I want you guys to vote. And I'm fascinated
by this because I wonder whether all of this social
media junk is actually working right now in Ron DeSantis's
favorite And I wanted to hit you a couple of stats,
Buck that I think you're gonna hear. And I want
to keep hammering this home. I want you guys to
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be active with us. You can hashtag us Clay and Buck.
You can follow us on Twitter at Clay and Buck.
He's at Buck Sexton. I am at Clay Travis. But
I saw some of the data points on this and
I thought, you know what, we need to actually share
some of this data, because I do think the power
has become so overwhelming with social media, Twitter in particular,
that most people don't actually look at the numbers. Less
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than eight percent of US citizens are active Twitter users.
That's even lower when you consider political Twitter. If Twitter
were a congressional district, it would vote like Portland, Oregon.
This is from John Noonan. Ten percent of Twitter users
create eighty percent of the content focused on politics. It's
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not the real world. What I always say is it
is a carnival fun house version buck of the real world.
And if you try to adjust your behavior, which far
too many politicians and corporations are doing, it's like standing
in front of a carnival fun house mirror and thinking, Oh,
I'm fat, it's made you look fat. Oh I'm skinny.
It's made you look skinny. It's not an accurate representation
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of the country. And so when we respond to it,
what we end up doing is drastically overrating the value
of it as as a mechanism by which to determine
the overall mood of the country. I think that's working
into Santis's favor. I think so too, and the New
York Times, it has been said has as an assignment.
It's assignment editors actually Twitter. And what I would add
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to that is that the echo chamber effective Twitter on
news coverage is incredibly powerful. For a lot of people
listening that they're listening to us on one hundreds of
radio stations across the country, they're thinking, well, Twitter, I mean,
so many folks aren't on it, as you point out,
but it's a way for narrative to be communicated in
real time from one news organization to another, and then
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they can all point to each other, which, by the way,
they did. There was a New York Times reporter who
was jumping all over Fox News for pointing out the
falsehood of the initial story, and it was why are
you reporting on them getting it wrong? You know, kind
of everybody makes mistakes attitude, except as we know, well,
if you're going to get things wrong, you should be
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held to account for it. And in this case, I mean,
this was recklessly bad reporting. Also, it only seems to
be wrong in one way. Yes, that's my thing. Trump Like,
if you think back to all the things that people
got wrong about Trump and what they're getting wrong about
the Santis there's never a point where you sit back
and say, oh, that's a really favorable story that ended
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up being false, Like whatever, it might be, right. You
would think if you were just occasionally getting facts wrong,
that the facts wouldn't always cut in a negative way.
There'd be sometimes where you'd be like, hey, Rod de Santis,
he saved ten people from a burning building. Oh that
didn't actually happen, but at least it was a positive story, right,
Donald Trump, there was a boat that sank during a
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Trump rally and he swam and he saved ten people.
And you're like, oh, well, that didn't actually happen. It's
only negative stories that are not true, and the negative
stories are not something. And I want everyone to understand this.
There is no reporter who feels badly about writing a
story that trashes Trump or de Santists or whatever, because
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they've served the purpose at the time. Reward that's right,
they get bigger contracts, more followers. Look at Russia collusion,
which is something we will refer to as a as
a background note, I'd say for this show, sometimes Russia
collusion four years and this is terrifying. Commentary on the
American media in general totalizes all full of nonsense. And
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if you look, and you and I know this because
we see the people who are at the front of
the Trump is Putin's puppet train, bigger book deals, more
followers on social media, elevated at all these zero negative consequences.
So the actual market incentives for the Democrat left, for
the fake news as Trump used to call them rightly so,
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is to keep doing exactly what they've done. So I
just want every This is why you see these things
like death scantists trending. This is why this continues to happen.
They're terrified of the Santist because on some level De
Santis is logical Trump. I'm gonna unpack that a little
bit more when we come back. I'm also going to
give you the latest poll results. Nearly twenty thousand of
you have voted in the first twenty minutes most recent
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straw poll for twenty twenty four. These were the top
four candidates according to the voters. Ron De Santis, Donald Trump,
Ted Cruz, Mike Pompeo. Who would you support? Get your
votes in. I'll update you on those first twenty thousand
when we come back, and we'll discuss if there's any
significance of these early straw poles. That's next to finish
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off the first hour. I'm Clay Travis, He's buck Sexton,
who is the leader right now in the twenty twenty
four Clubhouse, we'll discuss next walking again Clay Travis, buck
Sexton Show, gonna give you the updates of that poll.
Want to get it over twenty thousand, get your votes in,
But first we want to go to Paul in Queens,
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New York. I'm excited. Hi ah, Hi, gentlemen, listen, I
just wanted on one thing. I grew up late sixty two.
I was one and I went to school and I
remember we went to communism and this is a free country.
What I see I hear the left using McCarthey ism,
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which McCarthey is was just a way of trying to
find who are a communist right now? It's not McCarthey
is if the trains smitted a word, because where we're
in is or welly ism. We've got people locked up
in jail that this is the way he did because
you sort of they just walked in and you know whatever,
it's all here, say whatever, but they're locked up and
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it will be while you have people who are criminals
out in the middle of the street, let go after
burning down buildings. And my point is that for four
years they bashed President Trump. You had the intelligence agency,
like eighty of them all wrote a letter saying President
Trump was this that blah blah blah. Where is the
eighty intelligence offices now talking about Biden giving away sixteen priorities.
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We're not the hack. So let me let me say this, Yeah, Paul,
let me let me first of all, thank you for
calling in. We really appreciate folks lighting up the lines
in this first hour. And also, fellow New York are
always exciting to hear from you. As to the issue
of solitary the solitary confinement that some individuals are being
held in, it's outrageous given the actual charges against them.
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And this is the January sixth riot. They call it
an insurrection. I think that's crazy. It's a riot that's
clearly politicized in nature. That's a political decision, and we
could go into and I will go into with Clay
here of the course of the show, some of the
judges rationale for that, and I think it's outrageous. As
for the McCarthyism comment and how you feel the country's
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trending right now With COVID over the last year and
particularly the social media lockdowns, it really felt like we
got a test drive of authoritarianism and we really need
to repudiate this. We need to fight back against this
or else it will come back. Now. I know that
we promised you that there will be a pole and clay.
It's going to be a twenty thousand of you have voted.
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Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. I'm Clay Travis, I'm Buck Sexton, and
you are listening to The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Show live from our studio in Nashville, Tennessee. We appreciate
all of you wherever you are listening around this great
country or this great world, and we know that we
(00:24):
are stepping into the time slot of one of the
greatest individuals to ever do radio, if not the greatest
individual that has ever done radio in the history of
this medium. And that's why we're consistently not ever going
to say that we are replacing Rush Limbaugh, because no
(00:45):
one is ever going to replace Rush Limbaugh. But what
we are going to do is continue the fights that
Rush Limbaugh fought so eloquently and so spectacularly for so
many years. Because we know that all of you out
there listening right now, there is an element of fear
(01:08):
in this country that I think for generations we have
not ever actually had to deal with. And I think
there's a huge number of you out there right now
listening to us who have picked up your phones at
some point in time thought about sending a tweet, thought
about posting something on Facebook, thought about sending something on Instagram,
(01:32):
But you are so terrified about what might happen if
you share your actual opinion that you didn't do it.
And if you haven't had that thought, I guarantee you
that you've had that thought about your kids, or your
grandkids or someone in your family and worried that if
you actually say what you think, you are going to
(01:55):
find yourself in the midst of a cancel culture storm.
And we are here. This is one of the great
things about the platform that we have as big tech
is strangling down and circumscribing what everybody can say and
what they can't say, as there is a overwhelming atmosphere
(02:17):
of censorship that is descending across the country and continuing
to grow. Buck Sexton and I are so incredibly excited
and so incredibly grateful to be able to talk to
all of you every single day and help to fight
the battles that Rush Limbaugh fought for generations for decades,
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and we are going to be the voice for many
people who do not feel like they have a right
to share their voice, and we are going to be
the absolute most honest show. I believe anywhere that you
are going to find in rate or any other medium.
And one of the reasons that this show is going
(03:03):
to continue to be so powerful is an era when
so many people, whether it's YouTube, whether it's Google, whether
it's Amazon, so many places out there are keeping you
from being able to be exposed to the truth and
to the facts. Radio it's an old medium, Buck, but
it's one of the most reliable out there. We're going
(03:24):
to be able to talk to all of you directly
and help to make I really do believe this the
country a better, smarter place, and maybe, just maybe we're
going to be able, I believe to win a lot
of the battles that matter going forward. Now, some of
you may have heard my voice before, and I bring
it up just because I had the incredible good fortune
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seven years ago in twenty fourteen to fill in for
the late great Rush Limbaugh, and then a number of
times afterwards. I bring it up because one thing that
Clay and I have been absolutely dedicated to from the
very beginning here is that we understand that there's a mission.
We understand that there is a fight ahead. It would
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be hard to think of a more difficult time in
living memory in this country for conservatives to feel like
they're getting a fair shot in the marketplace of ideas,
that in this culture war, we're not seeming to just
seed ground every day. And what was Rush Well, he
was a valiant warrior for his cause, but he was
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also in military parlance. I know there are a lot
of you out there who are current or former military.
He was the great force multiplier. Rush Limbaugh is the
reason I do talk radio. Rush Limbaugh is the reason
so many others across the country are even in this medium.
He was the one that we all looked to. He
was the leader of this movement. And there's a whole
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generation now or multiple generations really of people who are
taking up the fight for conservatism because of what Rush
Limbaugh stood for and what he meant. So we show
up here in this studio together, Clay and I every
day trying to do honor to that memory, and we
understand that this is something that is sacred to all
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of us and to all of you. We will be
your advocates in this. We will be the people who
try to spread the message of conservatism across the country
and continue on that work of Rush as a force
multiplier as somebody who inspired so many others. It was
a huge break in my career and a huge moment
(05:30):
in my life when I got to sit at the
mighty EIB Mike seven years ago. I couldn't have thought
at the time that here I'd be sitting with Clay
and now on hundreds of stations across the country, trying
to take up the mantle, trying to continue on in
that fight. My great hope here is that we will
make all of you proud, that we will make the
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memory of Rush proud, and we'll do everything that we
can to fight for this country that we love so
very much. And you will be a critical part that process.
Your phone calls, your emails, your notes to us. We
want this audience to feel as interactive as possible with
us throughout the course of this show, because we are
here to represent you, to speak for you, to connect,
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to make sure that you understand why we're showing up
every day, what this mission really is all about. And
we're going to do our darn best. And with that
I mean Clay, I think everyone should know a bit
about who mister Clay Travis is and who I because
we're also going to have fun here. I mean, there's
the overarching mission, but there's going to be this whole
other component of two guys who have a whole lot
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of interests and background that they either bring to this
or they share, and they want everyone understand why it
is that we're doing this every day, no doubt. Early.
Happy Father's Day, late, I guess I should say Happy
Father's Day to everybody out there. I spent my weekend
coaching Little League baseball. I have three boys, thirteen year old,
a ten year old, and the six year old. I
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cared desperately, not only about what's going on in the
country for the adults out there, but I think a
lot more now about the country through the eyes of
my three kids and what we are going to leave
to them and all the other younger guys and girls
out there who are growing up right now in one
of the most tumultuous times in certainly modern American history.
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Some of you have been listening to me for a while.
For the past six years, I've been doing Fox Sports
Radio mornings six to nine AM all over the country,
and so for everybody who's coming in that has been
listening to the OutKick the Coverage show, that I have
been doing for those pastax years. Welcome back into this show.
I think we're going to continue to have a lot
of fun here as well. And a lot of you
Red and Or have been paying attention to the content
(07:42):
that we put out at a website called OutKick dot com,
which Fox recently bought, and we've been fighting a lot
of these battles over the past several years. Buck. One
reason I was so comfortable making the transition from sports
talk radio to this show is because sport has basically
become politics in many ways, and certainly in the COVID
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air we did three months, four months basically of sports
talk radio with no sports going on, and a lot
of that discussion was about, Hey, we have to get
back to playing sports. We have to find a way
to play college athletics. We can't allow the IVY League
to dictate everything. I fought hard for the Big Ten
to be able to play for the Pact twelve, to
be able to play for the NFL and the NBA
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in the NHL and Major League Baseball, to find ways
to play amidst this COVID mess. And so we already
got a couple of sports stories. We're going to dive
intoday Supreme Court issuing a major ruling on the NC DOUBLEA,
we got a trans athlete qualifying for the Olympics. Sports
has become integrally intertwined in many ways now with the
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world of politics in particular, and I think it's gonna
be a lot of fun, Buck, because you're coming in. Hey,
six years in the CIA, you know what it's like
on the ground in many ways, in so many of
these issues that we're going to be talking about. You're
far more informed than a lot of people who go
on television and certainly a lot of people who come
on the radio and try to talk about them. Yeah,
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I just by way of quick background for everybody listening
in case you didn't get it. I think I maybe
fill in for Rush about a dozen times back in
the day, starting in twenty fourteen. But I've also been
doing a show syndicated through Premiere Radio Networks from six
to nine Eastern for the last five years. My math
on this maybe off, but I think it's the last
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five years. I got into this business, Clay because of
that sense of mission. Quite honestly, I was in the
CIA because of nine to eleven, Yes, and so I
went over in New Yorker, a New Yorker born and
raised in New York City. Unmarried, but as I keep
telling my parents, I'm working on it, getting closer. So
no kids, no marriage for me quite yet, but I'm
working on it. But anyway, I joined the CIA because
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of nine to eleven was the first thing I wanted
to do as soon as I got out of school.
You were how old when nine to eleven happened? I
was a sophomore in college, so I joined in the CIA.
The Counter terr M Center ended up deploying to Iraq
and Afghanistan, and I came back and spent about eighteen
months with the NYPD in Telnce Division, which will come
into some of our discussion today about domestic We've got
(10:12):
a mayoral election in New York tomorrow, basically, right, that's right,
A big election that has implications for the whole country
in terms of the politics and the narrative. I know
New York City politics may not be at the top
of everybody's mind, but what it shows about crime, so
I'm a New York native, We'll get into some of that.
I joined conservative media because God bless him, Glenn Beck
found me just basically heard about me. I'd never done
(10:35):
a word of media, never done a sink of never
published a single anything. And Glenn said, don't go to
business school and become a Wall Street guy, which was
the plan. Work come work for me out of the CIA,
and I went right out of government work to start
at the Blaze with Glenn and then syndicated radio managed
to fill in for Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Rush
Limbaugh on radio and been doing political talk radio now
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for going on almost ten years. So that's when I
bring to this and that's my focus. And certainly in
the national security side, Clay and I are going to
be having a lot of really fascinating discussions here. But
we mentioned terrorists. In this case, we have a terrorism
story that wasn't and this is to me indicative of
everything that's wrong with the country from social media because
(11:19):
down in Fort Lauderdale we had a alleged terror LGBT attack.
We're gonna play some of the audio for you that
completely blew up and was not in any way representative
of what the true facts were. We're going to dive
into that and how it might be impacting because it
happened in Florida. Already people talking a lot about the
twenty twenty four presidential campaign. There was a straw pole,
(11:41):
a new one out. Who is the favorite? Who do
you guys think the favorite should be. I'm gonna put
up a poll and let everybody vote. I'll give you
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We're also going to punch back on social media, even
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appreciate all the affiliates out there. We'll have a podcast
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back in Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm Clay Travis.
We are rolling through the program. We're about to play
you the latest idiocy to trend on social media death
santis has become very popular. I just put up, by
the way, a poll question, Buck Sexton. We're gonna get
into this one a little bit. You can go vote
at Clay Travis also at Clay and Buck. Go follow
(14:35):
us on Twitter. Please, we're gonna try to punch back
on social media and actually win some of these battles occasionally,
but most recent straw Pole for twenty twenty four, these
top Republican candidates were the top vote getters Ronda Santis,
Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Mike Pompeo. Which of those four
would be your preferred candidate right now in twenty twenty four?
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That will be interesting too. Unpack a bit as we
moved throughout the first hour of this program. I'm curious
to see how you guys are voting in that. But
let's go ahead and get a call in here quickly.
John in Savannah, Georgia, breaking the ice, becoming the first caller. John,
I don't want you to have a lot of pressure
on you, but you do have a ton here. Don't
blow it. Thanks, no pressure. I just wanted to say
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thank you. It sounds good. It's a great start. As
I told the screener, keep up the good work. It
sounds like everything's gonna go well. And it's a ray
of hope. I think it's a ray of hope for
the country. You're getting us back in the right direction.
And I've been a cop for thirty five years. As
I sit here in my car with the uniform on
and thank you. Keep it up and it sounds good. Wow, John,
thank you. We want calls like John. Yeah, thirty five
(15:46):
years as a police officer and you know this book
as you worked, like you said, eighteen months in New
York Police Department. It's never been a tougher time in
anybody's life right now to be a cop. Then right now,
I actually have a member of my family who was
a police officer in Savannah for a number even or not. Yeah. No,
the anti police narrative something we're gonna be talking about
today on the show because we will look at not
(16:07):
just the viral stories that are out there from just
over this weekend, Clay. It's something that we're constantly trying
to cover more because it goes against the narrative, but
the anti cop storylines that were told over the last year. Unfortunately,
we're seeing how this plays out, and as I have
been saying now for a while on radio, it makes
everything worse for everybody, and that's for the cops, for
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the communities, for everybody. Things are worse off now because
of the undermining of police for purely political reasons by
the left and the Democrats. There's no doubt if you
look at the data. And of course this story is
not getting talked about anywhere near as much as it should,
although we talked about this a little bit earlier. Tomorrow
is a New York City mayor race, effectively, because the
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Democratic primary will decide who the mayor is going to be.
And the number one topic has actually been crime. Because
in every state and every city where bl protests were
the most active, guess what happened. The overall murder rate
skyrocket and the people who were most likely to be
victims of that violence black and brown, you know. And
the other thing that's associated here in many ways, Buck,
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is that doesn't get any discussion at all. All the
cities that got all the attention when the protests were
going on, all the cameras were there, they all leave,
and then the murder rate skyrockets, crime rate skyrockets, which
is why even eighty percent of any inner city residence,
if you look at the data, Buck, they want police funded,
they want more of them. Well, what you find out
as well is that a lot of the Democrat controlled cities,
(17:36):
places like New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, name one, really
they take the exact wrong lesson from the very smike
in crime that you're talking about. They decided, you know what,
maybe we should be even more lax, Maybe we should
send in more social workers. We haven't send in enough
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was a tragic accident, but at first they didn't say that.
That's not how it was reported. In fact, you saw
a lot of politics, a lot of narrative. Immediately afterwards,
there was an accident at a pride parade in Fort Lauderdale,
(19:32):
and initially the mayor went to Twitter to say that
this was quote a terrorist attack against the LGBTQ community.
He the driver of the truck came to destroy people.
This was clearly no accident end quote. The problem, Clay
is that it was clearly an accident, whichever now admits,
(19:53):
and we should get into why they got this so wrong.
But you have more details. Yeah, Look, this was a
seventy seven year old individual who was not healthy enough
to be able to actually march in the parade, and
so the idea was he was going to drive a
car to be in the parade. He evidently inadvertently hit
the accelerator as opposed to the break and ended up
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killing and severely injuring several people. You know this, Buck,
because you back in a different world, used to get
paid by CNN. They actually paid you, right, I was
a contributor. You are a contributor. I used to do
terrorism analysis at CNN. That was before CNN had lost
their mind and completely gone to the dogs. But Buck
Sex then employed there. And the number one rule of
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any incident such as this is what you wait until
you know. You wait till you are the facts. I
will say though that that's adjusted clay depending on the narrative,
based upon who the likely perpetractor, the likely perpetrators, ideology
and profile. That's what That's where, all of a sudden,
the rules get very hazy for some people. All right, well,
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this certainly was immediately immediately this was a terror attack.
Here is I can't believe this happened. But of course
you all can believe it happened, and we're going to
talk about the fallout. But the mayor or of Fort Lauderdale,
as soon as this incident happened, he ran straight to
the microphones. It spread and propagated throughout Twitter and social media,
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which we're going to discuss. But first, here is the
esteemed and I'm putting that in quotation marks the esteemed
mayor of Fort Lauderdale. I believe his name is Dean Trantalus.
And this is pretty much a disaster of leadership. Listen, well,
we saw it. It was a terrorist attack on the
LGBT community. This is disgusting. We will not stand for this.
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This is not going to happen in my city or
any city. Oh. First of all, I noticed buck he
left off the queues. He said it was only an
attack against the LGBT. I don't know how many more
letters there are now included in the LGBT community, but
I know that Q is in there and he left
it off. All of that's not true. The number one
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thing that we should rely on a mayor to do,
I think, in an incident such as this, stand in
front of the microphones and give us information and make
it reliable. Instead, everything that he said was false. Now
this is fascinating because it's a window into the mind
of the left in America right now, the Democrat Party broadly,
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and their view of their political opponents. Because what happened
here everyone agrees, as we've already described, that this was
clearly just a tragic accident. He read, some seven year
old man accidentally hit the accelerator. Was there to support
the parade, that's right. He's a member of the Gay
Men's Chorus actually, and had a Pride flag on the
back on the back of his pickup truck. But here's
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what happened. Pride parade, pickup truck, someone killed, and immediately
not just this politician, but the media apparatus around him,
the Democrat aligned media apparatus, The New York Times, CNN,
you all know what outlets we're talking about here. They
saw an opportunity to push the narrative right away of oh,
this was a hate crime, that's right. Now, why do
they have such a hair trigger, if you will, about
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calling for a hate crime like this. The background to
all of the two stories like this and other things
that we're seeing is that if you read those newspapers
that I meant New York Times, Washington Post. If you
watch those cable channels, you're being fed a steady diet
day in and day out of Trump supporters are a
constant threat. Hate crimes are on the rise because of
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the white nationalist Trump supporter threat out there. Another insurrection
is just moments away. So there's this constant anxiety that
creates this elevation of something like this, where everybody should
have said, hold on a second, like let's yeah. And
by the way, even in the initial reporting, it was
clear this did not it didn't add up to be
a terroistacked. But why did they go there and play
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as you know, they went even further somehow elderly fellow
accidentally tragic accident becomes Rhonda Santist is a murder hashtag
death Santists. Yes, there are political reasons for this that
we can all see, and I think a lot of
it has to be unpacked because to me, this is
indicative of the larger issues that we're facing in a
country today. Let me just say this, whatever you believe,
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there is evidence on the Internet to support it. It
doesn't matter what you believe, because we are a big
massive country of three hundred and thirty million people, and
at some point there is a viral video of someone
saying or doing something that you believe. The challenge that
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I think is out there. Social media, to your point,
runs long before the facts are out. And what fires
me up. And I want to listen to this again
because I want you to listen. This is an elected
mayor of a pretty decent sized city in America, This
Dean trantilis Fort Lauderdale. I want you to listen to
him again, and I want you to think about as
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you listen to everything that he said is false. Every
single word that he said is false. How many people
are never going to get the truth? Buck? Because they're
going to hear this, they're gonna see it in their
silos of media, and even though we now know it's
one hundred percent false, they're never going to get the correction.
It's like in the newspaper, an old school newspaper. I
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still like to read the old school newspaper. At the
front they write the corrections, tiny little print. Nobody ever
sees the correction. They believe the lie. They followed the
lie because the lie helps to drive the narrative that
is white supremacists are trying to take over this country.
None of you are safe if you're gay, if you're black,
if you're Asian, if you're Hispanic, unless, by the way, Buck,
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you happen to be Asian and get attacked by a
black guy, because then those videos disappear. The stories don't
get written first paragraph. Anytime a white guy does anything,
race gets described. New York Times, all those videos, all
those anti Asian hate crimes, first paragraph. The race never
gets described. If it's not a white guy who does it.
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I'm gonna say that there's also a clear and this
will tie into our Ronda Santists strawful discussion. The left
hates Desantists so much. The Democrats hate de Santis so
much because in him they see somebody who could pick
up the mantle of Trumpism, if you will, and then
we'll get into this is gonna be an ongoing discussion.
By no means are we settling this now, But that
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could happen. So here's the machinery. Think about this as though.
It's almost like you're at a factory and the media
has an assembly line and they're trying to produce. They're
trying to produce something a little neatly packaged, you know,
tidbit for all of its audience that they'll like, that
they'll enjoy. And that goes also to the purpose. There's
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what this left wing audience wants, and there's what this
left wing audience needs to be told to get them
mobilized politically. It will here's a hate crime. We're in
a elevated concern about hate crimes already because of Trump
and trumps M and white white nationalist because because of
the intentional exaggeration of that that's used to justify the
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oppression of Trump voters and tying it all together. But
then also they they looked for Ron descentists to just
sort of put him on the assembly line, so to speak.
Here because he had signed a bill that said that
if you're driving your car and people intentionally uh you know,
jam the roadway, that there was going to be some
protection for you from liability because you have these crazy
(27:38):
things where people are at a BLM protest or an
antif riot and they jump on people's cars and people
are terrified and they do what a lot of people do.
His drive. But so they saw that, they said, ah,
let's immediately link the non tis to this incident and
say it's Ron Descentist's fault, because how many times are
they going to lie about him? Clay. They lied about
(27:59):
Desists when it came to the Florida numbers. They lied
about him when it came to vaccine distribution, relationship with publics,
the sixty minute story, which was one hundred percent a
why I want everyone to know that the fake news
arsenal that was deployed for four years against Donald Trump,
you're already seeing it deployed against Ron de Santists. And
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there's a reason for that. And one of those reasons.
And I want you guys to vote. And I'm fascinated
by this because I wonder whether all of this social
media junk is actually working right now in Ron DeSantis's
favorite And I wanted to hit you a couple of stats,
Buck that I think you're gonna hear. And I want
to keep hammering this home. I want you guys to
(28:40):
be active with us. You can hashtag us Clay and Buck.
You can follow us on Twitter at Clay and Buck.
He's at Buck Sexton. I am at Clay Travis. But
I saw some of the data points on this and
I thought, you know what, we need to actually share
some of this data, because I do think the power
has become so overwhelming with social media, Twitter in particular,
that most people don't actually look at the numbers. Less
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than eight percent of US citizens are active Twitter users.
That's even lower when you consider political Twitter. If Twitter
were a congressional district, it would vote like Portland, Oregon.
This is from John Noonan. Ten percent of Twitter users
create eighty percent of the content focused on politics. It's
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not the real world. What I always say is it
is a carnival fun house version buck of the real world.
And if you try to adjust your behavior, which far
too many politicians and corporations are doing, it's like standing
in front of a carnival fun house mirror and thinking, Oh,
I'm fat, it's made you look fat. Oh I'm skinny.
It's made you look skinny. It's not an accurate representation
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of the country. And so when we respond to it,
what we end up doing is drastically overrating the value
of it as as a mechanism by which to determine
the overall mood of the country. I think that's working
into Santis's favor. I think so too, and the New
York Times, it has been said has as an assignment.
It's assignment editors actually Twitter. And what I would add
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to that is that the echo chamber effective Twitter on
news coverage is incredibly powerful. For a lot of people
listening that they're listening to us on one hundreds of
radio stations across the country, they're thinking, well, Twitter, I mean,
so many folks aren't on it, as you point out,
but it's a way for narrative to be communicated in
real time from one news organization to another, and then
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they can all point to each other, which, by the way,
they did. There was a New York Times reporter who
was jumping all over Fox News for pointing out the
falsehood of the initial story, and it was why are
you reporting on them getting it wrong? You know, kind
of everybody makes mistakes attitude, except as we know, well,
if you're going to get things wrong, you should be
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held to account for it. And in this case, I mean,
this was recklessly bad reporting. Also, it only seems to
be wrong in one way. Yes, that's my thing. Trump Like,
if you think back to all the things that people
got wrong about Trump and what they're getting wrong about
the Santis there's never a point where you sit back
and say, oh, that's a really favorable story that ended
(31:12):
up being false, Like whatever, it might be, right. You
would think if you were just occasionally getting facts wrong,
that the facts wouldn't always cut in a negative way.
There'd be sometimes where you'd be like, hey, Rod de Santis,
he saved ten people from a burning building. Oh that
didn't actually happen, but at least it was a positive story, right,
Donald Trump, there was a boat that sank during a
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Trump rally and he swam and he saved ten people.
And you're like, oh, well, that didn't actually happen. It's
only negative stories that are not true, and the negative
stories are not something. And I want everyone to understand this.
There is no reporter who feels badly about writing a
story that trashes Trump or de Santists or whatever, because
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they've served the purpose at the time. Reward that's right,
they get bigger contracts, more followers. Look at Russia collusion,
which is something we will refer to as a as
a background note, I'd say for this show, sometimes Russia
collusion four years and this is terrifying. Commentary on the
American media in general totalizes all full of nonsense. And
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if you look, and you and I know this because
we see the people who are at the front of
the Trump is Putin's puppet train, bigger book deals, more
followers on social media, elevated at all these zero negative consequences.
So the actual market incentives for the Democrat left, for
the fake news as Trump used to call them rightly so,
(32:37):
is to keep doing exactly what they've done. So I
just want every This is why you see these things
like death scantists trending. This is why this continues to happen.
They're terrified of the Santist because on some level De
Santis is logical Trump. I'm gonna unpack that a little
bit more when we come back. I'm also going to
give you the latest poll results. Nearly twenty thousand of
you have voted in the first twenty minutes most recent
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straw poll for twenty twenty four. These were the top
four candidates according to the voters. Ron De Santis, Donald Trump,
Ted Cruz, Mike Pompeo. Who would you support? Get your
votes in. I'll update you on those first twenty thousand
when we come back, and we'll discuss if there's any
significance of these early straw poles. That's next to finish
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off the first hour. I'm Clay Travis, He's buck Sexton,
who is the leader right now in the twenty twenty
four Clubhouse, we'll discuss next walking again Clay Travis, buck
Sexton Show, gonna give you the updates of that poll.
Want to get it over twenty thousand, get your votes in,
But first we want to go to Paul in Queens,
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New York. I'm excited. Hi ah, Hi, gentlemen, listen, I
just wanted on one thing. I grew up late sixty two.
I was one and I went to school and I
remember we went to communism and this is a free country.
What I see I hear the left using McCarthey ism,
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which McCarthey is was just a way of trying to
find who are a communist right now? It's not McCarthey
is if the trains smitted a word, because where we're
in is or welly ism. We've got people locked up
in jail that this is the way he did because
you sort of they just walked in and you know whatever,
it's all here, say whatever, but they're locked up and
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it will be while you have people who are criminals
out in the middle of the street, let go after
burning down buildings. And my point is that for four
years they bashed President Trump. You had the intelligence agency,
like eighty of them all wrote a letter saying President
Trump was this that blah blah blah. Where is the
eighty intelligence offices now talking about Biden giving away sixteen priorities.
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We're not the hack. So let me let me say this, Yeah, Paul,
let me let me first of all, thank you for
calling in. We really appreciate folks lighting up the lines
in this first hour. And also, fellow New York are
always exciting to hear from you. As to the issue
of solitary the solitary confinement that some individuals are being
held in, it's outrageous given the actual charges against them.
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And this is the January sixth riot. They call it
an insurrection. I think that's crazy. It's a riot that's
clearly politicized in nature. That's a political decision, and we
could go into and I will go into with Clay
here of the course of the show, some of the
judges rationale for that, and I think it's outrageous. As
for the McCarthyism comment and how you feel the country's
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trending right now With COVID over the last year and
particularly the social media lockdowns, it really felt like we
got a test drive of authoritarianism and we really need
to repudiate this. We need to fight back against this
or else it will come back. Now. I know that
we promised you that there will be a pole and clay.
It's going to be a twenty thousand of you have voted.
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