September 7, 2021 • 37 mins
Conservative rapper, podcaster and artist Zuby joins Clay and Buck in-studio to break down stereotypes, covid madness and how we can push back. Zuby beat the female weightlifting records while "identifying as woman" in response to transgender athlete row. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott signs election integrity bill. General Milley has "CYA" answers on Afghanistan. The Biden Doctrine: Always be wrong. Does Biden have the coattails to get his spending bill passed?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to our three of the Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I am gonna be talking
to you with Clay here in a few moments about
the Texas voting law. We've got updates for this hour,
I should say, we'll be talking to you about that
signed into law. Governor Abbott now has this voting law
(00:23):
that is really well. We'll break down the details of
the voting speed one ended up happening, but we've got
updates on Afghanistan two. How are we getting people out?
Who's getting out? As a bide administration standing in the
way First, As promised, we have here in studio our
friend Zubi, who is a podcaster, rapper, author, public intellectual
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and general life and fitness guru. Zubi. Welcome man. I
know you've been making making the rounds across the States.
How's it going. I'm doing great, man, Happy to be here.
So you are from the UK, originally spent a lot
of time there. You've been a critic of lockdown arism,
or we call it faucism here. Fauci doesn't matter as
much to you guys as you know, across the ocean,
(01:07):
as it does to us here unfortunately for us. But
how's the US doing compared to what you've seen in
Europe when it comes to the lockdown madness. Yeah, it's interesting.
I've been opposed to all of this since day one,
you know, March twenty twenty. I think it's man with
a lot of things. It's kind of difficult to compare
the UK with the USA because this place is so
(01:28):
much bigger. The USA is like a continent. So as
I've seen already from my travels here in the US
and from what I was seeing from Afar, depending on
what state and even what city are in within a state,
you can see a big range of different responses from
outdoor mask mandates and lockdowns in certain places to it
basically seeming like COVID doesn't even exist in other places.
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One percent normal people living normally, no restrictions, no mandates.
Everybody's just going around their business as usual and not
dropping down dead. So it's kind of weird. I mean,
in the UK, I left about six weeks ago now,
so before I left there were still some restrictions in place,
and as it stands, I believe everything has been has
been dropped now, but they're still threatening to bring in
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the so called vaccine passports. They're threatening to potentially go
into another lockdown in a couple of months. So I
think the UK's in a little bit of a precarious position,
just like I think some of the Blue states and
cities in particular here are as well. So yeah, I
appreciate you joining us. The first time I became aware
of you was when you did because you're a comedian
as well, some hysterical videos breaking all of the women's
(02:35):
lifting records. You're a pretty strong dude, and I'm a
sports guy originally. So this idea that men and women
should be competing against each other, or that transgender athletes
should be competing against each other. You know, we just
had the Olympics where we had a male who decided
to become a woman competing to try to win weightlifting championships.
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There's a pretty significant biological difference between the two. I
think that every state champion, for instance, in Texas over
the last twenty years for high school is faster than
the mail, is faster than the fastest woman of all time.
When did you come up with the idea to do
these weightlifting challenges, and what were the responses to you
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becoming the strongest woman in the history of the world. Well,
it's an issue that I'd been observing for a couple
of years, and I was telling people that this was
going to happen. It was the inevitable logical conclusion of
the ideology that was being pushed right saying that anybody
who anybody can be whatever agender they identify at at
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any given moment. You don't even need to be consistent
because you can be gender fluid as well. So actually,
when I posted that just that morning, i'd seen a
few stories coming out of the USA, in fact, which
were about biological males dominating women in their sports. So
out of curiosity, I just thought, man, I've got a
really strong deadlift. I wonder what. I wonder whether British
women's deadlift record is in my weight class. So I
looked it up and I saw that it was about
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fifty or sixty kilograms below my maximum, and I was
just like, oh, hey, I had that video on my phone.
I posted that nine second video, thinking Okay, if I
find this funny, a few other people will find it funny,
and lo and behold it was seen by millions upon
millions of people, put me on tons of people's radar,
and it was really the catalyst for a lot of
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people to discover all of the other things that I do.
In terms of pushback, it was maybe like zero point
five percent. Maybe for every two hundred messages of support
I got, I got one attempting to criticize me. But
really it was a checkmate position because if someone believes
in this ideology, they either need to accept me as
the British women's deadlife record holder, or they have to
say that I'm not actually a woman, which according to
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their own logic, is transphobic. So they need to pick one. Yeah,
and explain why right on. One of the big questions
that comes up, and I know this is now it's
really in the West in general. It's in the US,
Canada and Western Europe too. What is a woman is
something that conservatives like to ask the because they won't
give you a clear answer on it, and that affects
things like the sports competitions that we're talking about here. Yeah,
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I mean, a woman is an adult human female. We've
known this for a very time. This audience knows this.
I think everybody knows it. I don't believe that anybody truly, truly,
in their heart, deep down believes in the nonsense that
they're saying with this. I don't believe anybody believes it.
It sounds like you also, though, experience that there's a
very small but incredibly loud, influential, and vicious minority of
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opinion makers, really opinion police about issues like this that
will come after you. And on the transgender rights issue,
a lot of conservative conservatives I know, I've said, they've
experienced more hatred perhaps for standing against that madness when
it comes to things like the sports competitions than anything else. Yep.
Same goes for women as well. You know, there's a
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lot of groups of even feminists are very split on
this issue. Yeah, it'd be I'm curious here. We get
this question a lot, and I wonder what you would say.
How do you win these debates? Right? I mean, how
do we get to the point where the idea of
men competing against women I think for almost anyone out
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there is fundamentally ludicrous. That goes to the direct heart
of sports. It's why we've separated men and women's sports forever, because,
as you demonstrated, into becoming congratulations, the strongest women to
deadlifter in the history of Britain. If men are competing
against women, then women never win and effectively women's athletics
cease to exist. That's the logical extension of where this leads.
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How do we end up winning this debate? Well, you
can't get someone out of a position using logic if
they reach that position without logic, right, If someone's coming
to a conclusion purely based off of emotion or raw ideology,
then trying to logic your way out of it directly
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won't help. It'll just fall on deaf years. Actually, think
the right way to do it is to do an
extension of what I did and take take the notion
and run with it, right, run with it. Get a
whole bunch of male athletes to claim that they are
women in all sorts of sports and start infiltrating the
women's leagues, and this thing will end within a week. Zubie, Well,
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I'm just forever listening. We're joined by Zubie, who is
a podcaster, author, global champion female deadlifter by his own admission,
Slash also a guy who has a lot of thoughts
on on COVID and a range of issues right now.
Just what's a like mean for a guy who is
black and British and stepping onto the public stage on
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some of these very contentious issues and is being embraced
by conservatives in America? How how does that? How does
that feel? Are are you surprised by it at all? Um?
Not really? I mean, it's it's great. I've been I've
been to seven cities over the past five or six weeks,
from Istanbul to New York to Dallas, Texas, and I've
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been stopped in the street in every single city, even
on my way here to the station, by people telling
me that they appreciate what I do and that they're
happy to know that there's other sane people out there,
people willing to speak the truth, people willing to have
these conversations and to jump on some of these landmines.
And I don't think it's necessarily about being conservative. I
think it's about being sane at this stage, Zoie. I
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think what's fascinating is an America, and I know this
is spread to Europe as well, But identity politics are
the foundation now of the Democratic Party. And also I
would say identity politics twinned with cancel culture as a comedian,
and a lot of what you do is cut through
the illogical nature of many of the arguments out there
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using humor. To me, comedians need to be a massive
part of punching back against identity politics and cancel culture,
and they can do it in a way that illuminates,
which is rare, I think for the conservative space, the
absurdity of left wing politics. And we're seeing it from
guys like Bill Maher for instance, who now are recognizing
that the humor here of democratic positions lends them very
(09:14):
much to satire. And obviously with your weightlifting challenge, that's
a big part of it, but it's a big part
of intellectual freedom in general. Comedians can't make jokes unless
they have a wide expanse of range. When you talk
with other comedians, how much of a topic is canceled
culture and the identity politics a universe and what can
and can't be said, Well, I'm not I mean, I'm
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not a comedian. I'm just a guy who you know,
I'm an artist. I do know some comedians. When I've
had those conversations with a handful of comedians that I
do know, though I mean, they do a lot of
self policing, just like everybody else does. The majority of
the censorship that's going on right now in the Western
world is self inflicted. If you're in a country like
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the UK or Canada, then yes, there are governmental infringements
on freedom of speech, and I know people who have
been investigated and even prosecuted for things that they've posted
online on Twitter or on YouTube. But primarily what it
is is just every American, every British person, every Canadian,
the vast majority of people choosing to massively over self
(10:18):
censor themselves and self police there themselves, just from basic
opinions like hey, I voted for Brexit, I voted for Trump.
You know, this is my position on this. That's my
position on that. I think there's a pandemic of cowardice
that's going on, and I think that if everybody could
simply be ten to twenty percent more bold and a
little bit more courageous, especially when you're dealing with stuff
that's absurd, then I think we'd get through a lot
(10:39):
of this zoobie. Where can people go to appreciate your work,
including a rapper and podcast or right? So is it
all at one place? Or where should folks go they
want to hear what you're up to. Sure, if you
want to go to one single place where you will
find links to everything, you can go to zoobiemusic dot com.
That's Zuby Music and you can also follow me on
all social media at Zoobi Music. Well, by the way,
(11:01):
next time I go to Nashville, if you're still bumping
around the States, you got to come out there see
see what it's like in the wonderful state of Tennessee
where mister Travis is right now. Because New York City
is better than it was, but we've still we still
got a ways to go here. Zubi, thank you so
much for being in studio. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. You know, Clay,
I had pretty good night's sleep last night, and every
time I wake up in the morning and I look
(11:23):
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it's Instagram, whether it's Twitter, or whether it's Facebook. We
are there for you until those big tech companies decide
to ban us. And speaking of the banning that is
going on, do you remember when all of the members
of the Texas State House were heroes and how everybody
was saying, oh, man, look at the stand that they're
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taking there on the Capitol steps. They're doing such an
incredible job fighting back in favor of voting rights, and
this is going to be a tremendous accomplishment. And they
all were hanging out in their hotel rooms and they
were getting on MSNBC and CNN. The story just kind
of started to fade because people didn't really care that much.
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And the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, said, Hey, you
know what, I'm just gonna keep calling special sessions and
eventually they're going to have to come back to the
state and eventually we're going to pass the legislation that
they're trying to avoid passing. Yeah, it passed. Let's listen
to cut twenty nine right now. The Texas law, it
does make it easier than ever before for anybody to
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go cast a ballot. It does also have, however, make
sure that it is harder for people to cheat at
the ballot box in Texas. It's now a fate accompli,
so to speak. Buck Sexton. There's no ability to stop
this from becoming a law. And it's amazing how this
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story has sort of disappeared now. Partly that might be
because now everybody's suddenly pivoted to abortion, the abortion law
out of Texas, but the voting rights bill is effectively done.
Democrats accomplished nothing. Governor Abbott also has got a challenge.
She's got a couple of challenges right now from the
right for his governor's chair, including Alan West among others.
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So he knows he's he's got to step it up
a little bit as governor. So if you want maybe
Matthew McConaughey, if he wants the people, oh well that's
on the Democrat side. But if you want to have
a pile, it's got it crazy. But here's some of
the things that it does. Bands twenty four hour and
drive through voting, new vote by mail id mandates bands
officials from mailing unsolicited mail in ballot applications, empowers poll watchers.
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By the way, this is the CNN version of it.
Monthly voter roll checks, new requirements for assisting voters. All
this sounds great. I mean, it's funny. I'm reading this.
The ACLU is already that's just the most tyrtical thing
in the history of tyranny. We're gonna sue. I mean,
you have all these libs who are oh this is
Jim Crow two point, oh, oh, this is voter suppression, Clay.
It expands voting access from where it was before. In
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the state of Texas, it has much more expansive voting
access than New York State or Delaware, some of these
very deep blue states. But they're just gonna lie about
it to people and say that it's a voter suppression bill.
You know what I think is, Buck is I think
the Democrats have so wildly overplayed their hand here. And
(16:06):
I think the wild overplay was when Joe Biden got
up and said, Hey, this is like the Civil War.
This is the most dangerous moment in our country's history.
And even when they pulled the Major League Baseball game
out of Georgia, remember when all that all that debate
was going on, and then you started looking. I mean,
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all these states that are supposedly suppressing the vote are
actually have way more liberal voting policies than Joe Biden's
home state of Delaware. In the state of Texas, for example,
voter id including for mail in ballots, has a support
in the range of eighty percent of all races. By
the way of all yeah, all Texans across the board,
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about eighty percent say yeah voter ID. So yeah, if
you're like a hardcore leftist or you don't understand what
the question is, maybe you oppose voter ID. Short of that,
any Texan would want voter ID provisions. But the media
just ignores you always talked about the data, Clay, ignore
the actual data and run with the narrative. I mean
to what you're saying about the overreach for a reasonable person.
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Of course what you're saying is true, But I feel
like Democrats they fundraise off this, They play to the
lunatic MSNBC watching Bass. I don't know if they if
they pay a price for this, Otherwise, why would they
keep doing it? Why I keep lying about it if
it hurts them. I think what they're doing is setting
up when they lose in twenty twenty two. Yeah, they're
going to argue in twenty twenty four, we've got to
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fight back against racism and Jim Crow two point zero
because the entire Democratic campaign basically boils down to, as
you know, Buck Sexton, everything is racist. That's their entire campaign.
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thirty six months, twelve months, thirty six months, five years,
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ten years. Who knows? That was the Chairman of the
Joint chiefs of Staff, General Milly, And welcome back to
Clay Travis and Buck Saxon show. This is Buck. That
was General Milly. He still has his job, which makes
it very hard for anyone to think or believe that
there's accountability for a clear screw up with the withdrawal.
I mean, that's putting it mildly, but you know, because
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of the FCC, there's only certain words I can use here.
It's very obvious that there were senior level decisions made
on the military side that should require resignations. It didn't
really happen. In fact, in response to what General Milly
just said there on Fox, former Acting DNI Rick Grinnell,
great guy, I know, Rick, smart guy. Here's what he
(20:01):
said about Millie's We could see a resurgence of Terrorism book.
I know General Millian, I've been highly disappointed that he's
being very political. That is an answer to cover yourself
for later now that those warnings are happening. I've also
heard him say that General Miller, who was in charge
of BOGRAM, gave advice to shut down BOGRAM. Now I
can tell you that that's not true. I know that
(20:23):
very firsthand information. I know that General Miller made those
stark warnings to Jake Sullivan and said, do not close BOGRAM.
And BOGRAM was closed. Our troops were removed. We left
ten percent of the Americans behind. Look the Joe Biden doctrine,
the Biden doctrine for the rest of history will be
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ninety percent is good enough, and I think that that's
shameful and the American people should not feel safer when
they have a president of the United States willing to
take ten percent of us and leave us. You know, Clay,
he's obviously talking about his version there the former d
and I Rickernel say what he viewsed the Biden doctrine
as there was a piece of New York Times news analysis,
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not even editorial over the weekend on the Biden doctrine,
and it's amazing to watch them try to clean up
on Aisle five here of Oh, it's Biden is trying
to balance strategic priorities with the The Biden doctrine is
you're screwing up. Stop stop screwing up. I mean, there's
actually no framework here. There's there's no way to look
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at this other than to say, this guy Biden has
been wrong for a long time and a lot of
things when it comes to foreign policy, and here he's run.
That's the Biden doctrine. I just keep looking at Joe
Biden every time he speaks Buck, whether it's on Afghanistan,
which a disaster, whether it's on the border, whether it's
on the murder rate, whether it's on his new three
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point five trillion dollar budget bill, which I know we
haven't really talked about a great deal. I think we'll
probably touch on some this week in more substance. But
obviously that's struggling because you've had Joe Mansion of West
Virginia and Kursen Cinema of Arizona come out and say,
even as Democrats, they're not gonna be willing to support it.
I don't. We've been asking how COVID ends Buck I don't.
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I'm genuinely afraid of how this Biden administration ends, because
every single week and every single month, it seems to
me that Joe Biden is further in the grips of
deteriorating mental conditions. I think I think they think they're
past this already, Clay. I think that they believe that
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this is the after orson thing. Yeah, they're no big
deal the Americans. Some will get out, some won't. Yeah,
there's some delays, but they got the media in their
back pocket. I mean, do you do you think there's
still Yeah, they're royed about his poll numbers, no question,
And I think you're talking about his mental faculties, yeah,
the whole whole other thing. But on Afghanistan, I think
they're all I mean, they're already rolling out the narrative
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of Joe Biden got it done. Sure it was messy,
but it was always going to be messy, and they're
writing the history of the last thirty days in process.
I think I think that's their hope. I think their
hope is just that Americans have the memories of Goldfish
and that whatever occurs next is going to make people
forget the problem that I think the Biden administration has
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here is when every story ends with you being incompetent
and a failure, there's a pretty good theme that's going on.
So to me, Afghanistan sticks in the mind of the
American public because it further confirms the failure of the
Biden administration. And what they need, Buck, is something that
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is significant of a story enough that takes away the
attention from all the things that they're failing on. I
don't know what that is, and I'm sure they're sitting
down right now as they enter into the fall trying
to scramble. Because think about it, Buck, just I mean,
if you weren't trying to make an argument, pretend that
you are the advocate for Joe Biden, COVID, you've totally
failed on I think we need to keep hammering this.
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There are twice as many people in the hospital right
now with COVID as we're in the hospital last labor day. Okay,
he's failed on COVID, he's failed on the border, he's
failed on a crime all over this country. He has
failed on Afghanistan, He's failed on everything that he has touched.
I think they're going to try to argue infrastructure, and
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I think they're going to try to argue the budget.
I'm not sure either of those get through, and then
we're gonna be into twenty twenty two. So I just
to me, this is a White House without ideas and
without the functional ability to advocate an effective way on
behalf of the American public. I just I think it's
going to keep getting worse. Your report card, though it
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is all rooted in reality and in results and what's
actually happened. You know, how the Democrats do, how they
get Joe Biden elected. I mean, there were a lot
of things that would into it, changing the laws in states,
breaking the constitution in certain states. COVID was obviously a
huge part of it. But they told us this lie
that one Joe Biden was a guy who would bring
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together the country and he wouldn't be just some part
of the left. But also beyond that that they they
never thought that he was competent. Clay, the people that
really pay attention to politics and know Joe Biden understood
that he was deteriorating, understood that it was obvious that
it was reckless to put this guy in the commander
in chief role. But it was in their minds. The
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lies they told are still fully justified in their minds
because it's not Trump for four more years and we
haven't even talked about So, yeah, you're right. I mean,
I obviously agree. We talk about the failures all over
the place, but you know, in the next year, the
narrative is going to shift to racism, the insurrection, the
war on women, all these distractions and the media apparatus.
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You know, only a small percentage of the country is
going to be the difference in the mid terms. Really,
when you look at it, the media apparatus is still
ninety ninety five percent in the tank for the Democrats.
So we have a lot to overcome. Even with your
report Cardiff reality that reflects us poorly as it does
on the actual Biden administration policies. I think the challenge
for them is, even with all that in the tank,
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when you control the entire government, it's hard to argue
that somebody else is responsible for your failures. Now here's
what I think they'll do in response to that. You
own the House, you own the Senate, you own the President,
and then I kind of own the Senate, right like
a tiny They're going to try to shift the attention
to the Supreme Court. That's what I think their pivot
(26:27):
is going to be. I think if you look forward,
they're going to argue that the Supreme Court is blocking,
is blocking the full fruition of the Biden White House
and the and the and the House for Nancy Pelosi
and everything else, and they're going to make the Supreme
Court the foil in twenty twenty two and probably in
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twenty twenty four. There's also that there's the Biden Court
Packing Commission. They call it something that they call it that,
you know, judicial fairness, investigate, whatever it's it's the Biden
Court Packing Commission. And that's look, that's your right. That's
gonna be a part of the narrative, especially with this
whole war on women abortion thing. That's you know, the
state of Texas has this really interesting law in the
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way that they've instituted it. I think you're going to
see other states go along with this too. One thing
that I don't think it's got enough attention. With all that,
Clay as well, and we can come back into this
although we never we never have enough time, Clain. We
could do a six hour show, literally, we could do
a six hour show every day. Don't worry, We're not
going to, but we could do a six hour show
every day. But it is I think it is. It
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is a statement almost of fact. I mean you could
say it's it's an assessment, but I think it's an
assessment for which it's very hard to find a strong
counter argument that as we see this playing out right
now in Texas and heading the Supreme Court over the
abortion issue, Donald Trump's election win in twenty sixteen, and
Donald Trump as a president was the most pro life,
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most consequential pro life president since Roe v. Wade was adopted.
Donald Trump will have done more for the cause of
life as president, and based on just the Supreme Court
picks that he's made, than anyone who came before him.
That's pretty remarkable, especially when I'm sure you've seen it.
At a Trump World they're saying he smells weakness with Biden,
and it's looking more and more like he may do it,
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but oh, he's I would be stunned at this point
if he doesn't run, and he almost was a two
weeks ago that we had him on as the last
everything runs together. I can't we're gonna get him to
do it. We're gonna do its announced on our show.
We're gonna go to Mara Lago and give him three
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you hanging out with us on this Tuesday. Good to
be back with my man, Buck. I was out Friday,
Buck was out Monday. We're back together now after a
nice labor day break, and I was just playing during
the commercial break for you, Buck. A lot of the
crowds college football. We heard earlier doctor Fauci saying that
he didn't like the fact that all these masked millions
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of people were willing to go to college football games
and stadiums that were packed all over the country. But
you are hearing, and I heard it in person. So
many college kids out there with anti Joe Biden chants
that are breaking out inside of stadiums, and I've never
seen anything like are they yelling fouci Joe Biden? Because
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it's something like there's an effort in front of Joe Biden.
And I mean, I've been going to college football games
my entire life, and I have never heard a group
of college kids chanting anti American president chance like this.
And look when Joe Biden's got a forty three percent
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approval rating from NPR polls, buck when the New York
Times is writing articles on their editorial page, why is
Joe Biden so unpopular? We were just talking in the
last segment if I always like to think about politics
from the perspective of Okay, let's try to figure out
what both sides can do to maximize their perspective as
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we come into the fall. I think it's fair to
say that Joe Biden has had one of the most
disastrous opening years in modern American history as the president.
I think that's fair to say, whether you're a Democrat
or a Republican in terms of approval rating, in terms
of actual substantive accomplishments, in terms of being able to
point to anything that is impressive. It's accomplished. Okay, so
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what do they do now? So what's fascinating is that
if they had a vice president that they really believed in, Yes,
I think you would see. I think it would be
much more likely that there would be right now a
ground swell among Democrats. Four. Not that Joe Biden's not
gonna resign, He's not gonna step down. That's never gonna happen. Okay,
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that's actually not going to happen. But there's a there
would be a ground swell four. And he said this himself,
people forget this now one term, only pass the torture
the VP, and you would start to hear that. Realistically,
after the midterms, you still could see something like that.
There may still be some Democrats who say that we're
a year out. We'll have to see. But in the meantime,
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what's very clear is that even Democrats recognize Kamala is
not gonna get it done. Kamala, you know, running think
they can't hand the presidency to Kamala Harris. She would
have to she'd have to run, you know, Joe Biden
would step down, she'd run as the I guess as
the incumbent and well, it depends on how they did it,
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but anyway, the point being she would have to actually
become the head of the Democrat Party in Clay. I
think that even Democrats recognize that that's not gonna work.
So then maybe you get to they run Joe Biden.
You always said the weekend at Bernie's President, we get
at Bernie's part. They get Joe Biden to run, maybe
he wins, and then he steps down in the beginning
of term two. As as dastardly as that scheme may seem,
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what you put it beyond, you put it beyond Democrats.
They're about to lie about COVID stuff in a year
and how it's too dangerous to be in line to
vote so they can try to win more elections than
mid terms. I think here's what I wish. I wish
the presidential election was next year, because I think if
Trump ran, he would absolutely obliterate whoever is running in
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whoever's going to be running for the Democrats. If the
election were in twenty twenty two, there are so many
things that can happen between now in twenty twenty four
that it's hard to forecast exactly will will be where
it will be who's gonna run? Like, I mean, would
you have foreseen if we were sitting here in you know,
twenty thirteen and one of us had come on the
air and said, hey, you know, I think twenty sixteen
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it's gonna be between Hillary Clinton and I think Donald
Trump's gonna run, and I think he's gonna beat Hillary Clinton.
That would have been a pretty crazy prediction. I remember
I was, I was in I was in conservative media
at the time, Clay and I was over at CNN,
and there were all these different I was the on
you know, an on air conservative when they still allowed
They don't even allow that anymore, but they used to have.
They'd have like, you know, they they'd bring you on
(34:29):
that'd say, um, right wing lunatic buck Sexton wants to
weigh the anchor, and everybody's attack you with the whole thing.
But but even at that stage, they let's never forget,
they put Trump on air at CNN in twenty fifteen
going to the twenty sixteen election. They put him on
air because they thought it was funny. They thought it
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was amusing. It's good, right, how dumb these Republicans are
They're going with this guy, And of course we got
the last laugh, which is why Clay also, they never
would forgive Trump because the thing that he did. It
was even more than about the Supreme Court picks and
how there's now a real threat to Row thank God,
and all these real, real policy changes that came from Trump.
The unforgivable sin of Donald Trump, as far as the
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media was concerned, was that he was a threat to
the vanity of the journo elites. They would that was
too far, too much, calling them fake news, all of it.
Twenty five percent. We should mention the study that came
out twenty five percent of Trump, sorry, of Biden voters
now regret their vote. And so I don't think there's
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any way they can weekend at Bernie's style to try
to drag him across the finish line. I just I'm
not even sure what they pivot too. I think abortion
and the Supreme Court will be one of the things
they try to distract people with. I mean, I think
that's where they feel maybe they can energize some supporters
who aren't energized in any way by Joe Biden. I'm
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curious to see what happens with the budget because I
think that's a big part of this too. If Rowe
is struck down though, as we've talked about here, Clay,
and this will be a big issue from now until June.
It just goes back to the States and then what
I think will happen is people will see, okay, well,
state legislatures will pass laws about this, and some will
have you know, a six week or a ten week
or whatever restriction. Others will be abortion and any time
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for any reason. And when people see that it's not
actually this Handmaid's Tale dystopio that the left, so I'm
not I mean that it's a great it may not
even be the issue they think it is. So you know,
basically everything is racist, I think is their most left
Oh and class warfare, socialism stuff. There you go, and
we'll see what happens with the budget. It's gonna be huge,
I think, to see whether Biden can get that pushed through,
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and I'm not sure that he can. Thanks for being
here with us, play and excited to be back with you.
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to our three of the Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I am gonna be talking
to you with Clay here in a few moments about
the Texas voting law. We've got updates for this hour,
I should say, we'll be talking to you about that
signed into law. Governor Abbott now has this voting law
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that is really well. We'll break down the details of
the voting speed one ended up happening, but we've got
updates on Afghanistan two. How are we getting people out?
Who's getting out? As a bide administration standing in the
way First, As promised, we have here in studio our
friend Zubi, who is a podcaster, rapper, author, public intellectual
(00:46):
and general life and fitness guru. Zubi. Welcome man. I
know you've been making making the rounds across the States.
How's it going. I'm doing great, man, Happy to be here.
So you are from the UK, originally spent a lot
of time there. You've been a critic of lockdown arism,
or we call it faucism here. Fauci doesn't matter as
much to you guys as you know, across the ocean,
(01:07):
as it does to us here unfortunately for us. But
how's the US doing compared to what you've seen in
Europe when it comes to the lockdown madness. Yeah, it's interesting.
I've been opposed to all of this since day one,
you know, March twenty twenty. I think it's man with
a lot of things. It's kind of difficult to compare
the UK with the USA because this place is so
(01:28):
much bigger. The USA is like a continent. So as
I've seen already from my travels here in the US
and from what I was seeing from Afar, depending on
what state and even what city are in within a state,
you can see a big range of different responses from
outdoor mask mandates and lockdowns in certain places to it
basically seeming like COVID doesn't even exist in other places.
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One percent normal people living normally, no restrictions, no mandates.
Everybody's just going around their business as usual and not
dropping down dead. So it's kind of weird. I mean,
in the UK, I left about six weeks ago now,
so before I left there were still some restrictions in place,
and as it stands, I believe everything has been has
been dropped now, but they're still threatening to bring in
(02:11):
the so called vaccine passports. They're threatening to potentially go
into another lockdown in a couple of months. So I
think the UK's in a little bit of a precarious position,
just like I think some of the Blue states and
cities in particular here are as well. So yeah, I
appreciate you joining us. The first time I became aware
of you was when you did because you're a comedian
as well, some hysterical videos breaking all of the women's
(02:35):
lifting records. You're a pretty strong dude, and I'm a
sports guy originally. So this idea that men and women
should be competing against each other, or that transgender athletes
should be competing against each other. You know, we just
had the Olympics where we had a male who decided
to become a woman competing to try to win weightlifting championships.
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There's a pretty significant biological difference between the two. I
think that every state champion, for instance, in Texas over
the last twenty years for high school is faster than
the mail, is faster than the fastest woman of all time.
When did you come up with the idea to do
these weightlifting challenges, and what were the responses to you
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becoming the strongest woman in the history of the world. Well,
it's an issue that I'd been observing for a couple
of years, and I was telling people that this was
going to happen. It was the inevitable logical conclusion of
the ideology that was being pushed right saying that anybody
who anybody can be whatever agender they identify at at
(03:41):
any given moment. You don't even need to be consistent
because you can be gender fluid as well. So actually,
when I posted that just that morning, i'd seen a
few stories coming out of the USA, in fact, which
were about biological males dominating women in their sports. So
out of curiosity, I just thought, man, I've got a
really strong deadlift. I wonder what. I wonder whether British
women's deadlift record is in my weight class. So I
looked it up and I saw that it was about
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fifty or sixty kilograms below my maximum, and I was
just like, oh, hey, I had that video on my phone.
I posted that nine second video, thinking Okay, if I
find this funny, a few other people will find it funny,
and lo and behold it was seen by millions upon
millions of people, put me on tons of people's radar,
and it was really the catalyst for a lot of
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people to discover all of the other things that I do.
In terms of pushback, it was maybe like zero point
five percent. Maybe for every two hundred messages of support
I got, I got one attempting to criticize me. But
really it was a checkmate position because if someone believes
in this ideology, they either need to accept me as
the British women's deadlife record holder, or they have to
say that I'm not actually a woman, which according to
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their own logic, is transphobic. So they need to pick one. Yeah,
and explain why right on. One of the big questions
that comes up, and I know this is now it's
really in the West in general. It's in the US,
Canada and Western Europe too. What is a woman is
something that conservatives like to ask the because they won't
give you a clear answer on it, and that affects
things like the sports competitions that we're talking about here. Yeah,
(05:07):
I mean, a woman is an adult human female. We've
known this for a very time. This audience knows this.
I think everybody knows it. I don't believe that anybody truly, truly,
in their heart, deep down believes in the nonsense that
they're saying with this. I don't believe anybody believes it.
It sounds like you also, though, experience that there's a
very small but incredibly loud, influential, and vicious minority of
(05:31):
opinion makers, really opinion police about issues like this that
will come after you. And on the transgender rights issue,
a lot of conservative conservatives I know, I've said, they've
experienced more hatred perhaps for standing against that madness when
it comes to things like the sports competitions than anything else. Yep.
Same goes for women as well. You know, there's a
(05:53):
lot of groups of even feminists are very split on
this issue. Yeah, it'd be I'm curious here. We get
this question a lot, and I wonder what you would say.
How do you win these debates? Right? I mean, how
do we get to the point where the idea of
men competing against women I think for almost anyone out
(06:16):
there is fundamentally ludicrous. That goes to the direct heart
of sports. It's why we've separated men and women's sports forever, because,
as you demonstrated, into becoming congratulations, the strongest women to
deadlifter in the history of Britain. If men are competing
against women, then women never win and effectively women's athletics
cease to exist. That's the logical extension of where this leads.
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How do we end up winning this debate? Well, you
can't get someone out of a position using logic if
they reach that position without logic, right, If someone's coming
to a conclusion purely based off of emotion or raw ideology,
then trying to logic your way out of it directly
(06:57):
won't help. It'll just fall on deaf years. Actually, think
the right way to do it is to do an
extension of what I did and take take the notion
and run with it, right, run with it. Get a
whole bunch of male athletes to claim that they are
women in all sorts of sports and start infiltrating the
women's leagues, and this thing will end within a week. Zubie, Well,
(07:18):
I'm just forever listening. We're joined by Zubie, who is
a podcaster, author, global champion female deadlifter by his own admission,
Slash also a guy who has a lot of thoughts
on on COVID and a range of issues right now.
Just what's a like mean for a guy who is
black and British and stepping onto the public stage on
(07:42):
some of these very contentious issues and is being embraced
by conservatives in America? How how does that? How does
that feel? Are are you surprised by it at all? Um?
Not really? I mean, it's it's great. I've been I've
been to seven cities over the past five or six weeks,
from Istanbul to New York to Dallas, Texas, and I've
(08:06):
been stopped in the street in every single city, even
on my way here to the station, by people telling
me that they appreciate what I do and that they're
happy to know that there's other sane people out there,
people willing to speak the truth, people willing to have
these conversations and to jump on some of these landmines.
And I don't think it's necessarily about being conservative. I
think it's about being sane at this stage, Zoie. I
(08:28):
think what's fascinating is an America, and I know this
is spread to Europe as well, But identity politics are
the foundation now of the Democratic Party. And also I
would say identity politics twinned with cancel culture as a comedian,
and a lot of what you do is cut through
the illogical nature of many of the arguments out there
(08:48):
using humor. To me, comedians need to be a massive
part of punching back against identity politics and cancel culture,
and they can do it in a way that illuminates,
which is rare, I think for the conservative space, the
absurdity of left wing politics. And we're seeing it from
guys like Bill Maher for instance, who now are recognizing
that the humor here of democratic positions lends them very
(09:14):
much to satire. And obviously with your weightlifting challenge, that's
a big part of it, but it's a big part
of intellectual freedom in general. Comedians can't make jokes unless
they have a wide expanse of range. When you talk
with other comedians, how much of a topic is canceled
culture and the identity politics a universe and what can
and can't be said, Well, I'm not I mean, I'm
(09:35):
not a comedian. I'm just a guy who you know,
I'm an artist. I do know some comedians. When I've
had those conversations with a handful of comedians that I
do know, though I mean, they do a lot of
self policing, just like everybody else does. The majority of
the censorship that's going on right now in the Western
world is self inflicted. If you're in a country like
(09:55):
the UK or Canada, then yes, there are governmental infringements
on freedom of speech, and I know people who have
been investigated and even prosecuted for things that they've posted
online on Twitter or on YouTube. But primarily what it
is is just every American, every British person, every Canadian,
the vast majority of people choosing to massively over self
(10:18):
censor themselves and self police there themselves, just from basic
opinions like hey, I voted for Brexit, I voted for Trump.
You know, this is my position on this. That's my
position on that. I think there's a pandemic of cowardice
that's going on, and I think that if everybody could
simply be ten to twenty percent more bold and a
little bit more courageous, especially when you're dealing with stuff
that's absurd, then I think we'd get through a lot
(10:39):
of this zoobie. Where can people go to appreciate your work,
including a rapper and podcast or right? So is it
all at one place? Or where should folks go they
want to hear what you're up to. Sure, if you
want to go to one single place where you will
find links to everything, you can go to zoobiemusic dot com.
That's Zuby Music and you can also follow me on
all social media at Zoobi Music. Well, by the way,
(11:01):
next time I go to Nashville, if you're still bumping
around the States, you got to come out there see
see what it's like in the wonderful state of Tennessee
where mister Travis is right now. Because New York City
is better than it was, but we've still we still
got a ways to go here. Zubi, thank you so
much for being in studio. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. You know, Clay,
I had pretty good night's sleep last night, and every
time I wake up in the morning and I look
(11:23):
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going on, do you remember when all of the members
of the Texas State House were heroes and how everybody
was saying, oh, man, look at the stand that they're
(13:34):
taking there on the Capitol steps. They're doing such an
incredible job fighting back in favor of voting rights, and
this is going to be a tremendous accomplishment. And they
all were hanging out in their hotel rooms and they
were getting on MSNBC and CNN. The story just kind
of started to fade because people didn't really care that much.
(13:54):
And the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, said, Hey, you
know what, I'm just gonna keep calling special sessions and
eventually they're going to have to come back to the
state and eventually we're going to pass the legislation that
they're trying to avoid passing. Yeah, it passed. Let's listen
to cut twenty nine right now. The Texas law, it
does make it easier than ever before for anybody to
(14:15):
go cast a ballot. It does also have, however, make
sure that it is harder for people to cheat at
the ballot box in Texas. It's now a fate accompli,
so to speak. Buck Sexton. There's no ability to stop
this from becoming a law. And it's amazing how this
(14:37):
story has sort of disappeared now. Partly that might be
because now everybody's suddenly pivoted to abortion, the abortion law
out of Texas, but the voting rights bill is effectively done.
Democrats accomplished nothing. Governor Abbott also has got a challenge.
She's got a couple of challenges right now from the
right for his governor's chair, including Alan West among others.
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So he knows he's he's got to step it up
a little bit as governor. So if you want maybe
Matthew McConaughey, if he wants the people, oh well that's
on the Democrat side. But if you want to have
a pile, it's got it crazy. But here's some of
the things that it does. Bands twenty four hour and
drive through voting, new vote by mail id mandates bands
officials from mailing unsolicited mail in ballot applications, empowers poll watchers.
(15:20):
By the way, this is the CNN version of it.
Monthly voter roll checks, new requirements for assisting voters. All
this sounds great. I mean, it's funny. I'm reading this.
The ACLU is already that's just the most tyrtical thing
in the history of tyranny. We're gonna sue. I mean,
you have all these libs who are oh this is
Jim Crow two point, oh, oh, this is voter suppression, Clay.
It expands voting access from where it was before. In
(15:45):
the state of Texas, it has much more expansive voting
access than New York State or Delaware, some of these
very deep blue states. But they're just gonna lie about
it to people and say that it's a voter suppression bill.
You know what I think is, Buck is I think
the Democrats have so wildly overplayed their hand here. And
(16:06):
I think the wild overplay was when Joe Biden got
up and said, Hey, this is like the Civil War.
This is the most dangerous moment in our country's history.
And even when they pulled the Major League Baseball game
out of Georgia, remember when all that all that debate
was going on, and then you started looking. I mean,
(16:27):
all these states that are supposedly suppressing the vote are
actually have way more liberal voting policies than Joe Biden's
home state of Delaware. In the state of Texas, for example,
voter id including for mail in ballots, has a support
in the range of eighty percent of all races. By
the way of all yeah, all Texans across the board,
(16:48):
about eighty percent say yeah voter ID. So yeah, if
you're like a hardcore leftist or you don't understand what
the question is, maybe you oppose voter ID. Short of that,
any Texan would want voter ID provisions. But the media
just ignores you always talked about the data, Clay, ignore
the actual data and run with the narrative. I mean
to what you're saying about the overreach for a reasonable person.
(17:09):
Of course what you're saying is true, But I feel
like Democrats they fundraise off this, They play to the
lunatic MSNBC watching Bass. I don't know if they if
they pay a price for this, Otherwise, why would they
keep doing it? Why I keep lying about it if
it hurts them. I think what they're doing is setting
up when they lose in twenty twenty two. Yeah, they're
going to argue in twenty twenty four, we've got to
(17:29):
fight back against racism and Jim Crow two point zero
because the entire Democratic campaign basically boils down to, as
you know, Buck Sexton, everything is racist. That's their entire campaign.
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ending at ground zero this Saturday, symbolic towers of light
at two national memorials and ceremonies to read allow the
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is is that the conditions are likely to develop of
a civil war and that will then in turn lead
to conditions that could in fact lead to a reconstitution
of al Qaeda or a growth of ISIS or other
myriad of terrorist groups. You could see a resurgence of
terrorists coming out of that general region within twelve twenty four,
thirty six months, twelve months, thirty six months, five years,
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ten years. Who knows? That was the Chairman of the
Joint chiefs of Staff, General Milly, And welcome back to
Clay Travis and Buck Saxon show. This is Buck. That
was General Milly. He still has his job, which makes
it very hard for anyone to think or believe that
there's accountability for a clear screw up with the withdrawal.
I mean, that's putting it mildly, but you know, because
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of the FCC, there's only certain words I can use here.
It's very obvious that there were senior level decisions made
on the military side that should require resignations. It didn't
really happen. In fact, in response to what General Milly
just said there on Fox, former Acting DNI Rick Grinnell,
great guy, I know, Rick, smart guy. Here's what he
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said about Millie's We could see a resurgence of Terrorism book.
I know General Millian, I've been highly disappointed that he's
being very political. That is an answer to cover yourself
for later now that those warnings are happening. I've also
heard him say that General Miller, who was in charge
of BOGRAM, gave advice to shut down BOGRAM. Now I
can tell you that that's not true. I know that
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very firsthand information. I know that General Miller made those
stark warnings to Jake Sullivan and said, do not close BOGRAM.
And BOGRAM was closed. Our troops were removed. We left
ten percent of the Americans behind. Look the Joe Biden doctrine,
the Biden doctrine for the rest of history will be
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ninety percent is good enough, and I think that that's
shameful and the American people should not feel safer when
they have a president of the United States willing to
take ten percent of us and leave us. You know, Clay,
he's obviously talking about his version there the former d
and I Rickernel say what he viewsed the Biden doctrine
as there was a piece of New York Times news analysis,
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not even editorial over the weekend on the Biden doctrine,
and it's amazing to watch them try to clean up
on Aisle five here of Oh, it's Biden is trying
to balance strategic priorities with the The Biden doctrine is
you're screwing up. Stop stop screwing up. I mean, there's
actually no framework here. There's there's no way to look
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at this other than to say, this guy Biden has
been wrong for a long time and a lot of
things when it comes to foreign policy, and here he's run.
That's the Biden doctrine. I just keep looking at Joe
Biden every time he speaks Buck, whether it's on Afghanistan,
which a disaster, whether it's on the border, whether it's
on the murder rate, whether it's on his new three
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point five trillion dollar budget bill, which I know we
haven't really talked about a great deal. I think we'll
probably touch on some this week in more substance. But
obviously that's struggling because you've had Joe Mansion of West
Virginia and Kursen Cinema of Arizona come out and say,
even as Democrats, they're not gonna be willing to support it.
I don't. We've been asking how COVID ends Buck I don't.
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I'm genuinely afraid of how this Biden administration ends, because
every single week and every single month, it seems to
me that Joe Biden is further in the grips of
deteriorating mental conditions. I think I think they think they're
past this already, Clay. I think that they believe that
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this is the after orson thing. Yeah, they're no big
deal the Americans. Some will get out, some won't. Yeah,
there's some delays, but they got the media in their
back pocket. I mean, do you do you think there's
still Yeah, they're royed about his poll numbers, no question,
And I think you're talking about his mental faculties, yeah,
the whole whole other thing. But on Afghanistan, I think
they're all I mean, they're already rolling out the narrative
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of Joe Biden got it done. Sure it was messy,
but it was always going to be messy, and they're
writing the history of the last thirty days in process.
I think I think that's their hope. I think their
hope is just that Americans have the memories of Goldfish
and that whatever occurs next is going to make people
forget the problem that I think the Biden administration has
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here is when every story ends with you being incompetent
and a failure, there's a pretty good theme that's going on.
So to me, Afghanistan sticks in the mind of the
American public because it further confirms the failure of the
Biden administration. And what they need, Buck, is something that
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is significant of a story enough that takes away the
attention from all the things that they're failing on. I
don't know what that is, and I'm sure they're sitting
down right now as they enter into the fall trying
to scramble. Because think about it, Buck, just I mean,
if you weren't trying to make an argument, pretend that
you are the advocate for Joe Biden, COVID, you've totally
failed on I think we need to keep hammering this.
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There are twice as many people in the hospital right
now with COVID as we're in the hospital last labor day. Okay,
he's failed on COVID, he's failed on the border, he's
failed on a crime all over this country. He has
failed on Afghanistan, He's failed on everything that he has touched.
I think they're going to try to argue infrastructure, and
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I think they're going to try to argue the budget.
I'm not sure either of those get through, and then
we're gonna be into twenty twenty two. So I just
to me, this is a White House without ideas and
without the functional ability to advocate an effective way on
behalf of the American public. I just I think it's
going to keep getting worse. Your report card, though it
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is all rooted in reality and in results and what's
actually happened. You know, how the Democrats do, how they
get Joe Biden elected. I mean, there were a lot
of things that would into it, changing the laws in states,
breaking the constitution in certain states. COVID was obviously a
huge part of it. But they told us this lie
that one Joe Biden was a guy who would bring
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together the country and he wouldn't be just some part
of the left. But also beyond that that they they
never thought that he was competent. Clay, the people that
really pay attention to politics and know Joe Biden understood
that he was deteriorating, understood that it was obvious that
it was reckless to put this guy in the commander
in chief role. But it was in their minds. The
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lies they told are still fully justified in their minds
because it's not Trump for four more years and we
haven't even talked about So, yeah, you're right. I mean,
I obviously agree. We talk about the failures all over
the place, but you know, in the next year, the
narrative is going to shift to racism, the insurrection, the
war on women, all these distractions and the media apparatus.
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You know, only a small percentage of the country is
going to be the difference in the mid terms. Really,
when you look at it, the media apparatus is still
ninety ninety five percent in the tank for the Democrats.
So we have a lot to overcome. Even with your
report Cardiff reality that reflects us poorly as it does
on the actual Biden administration policies. I think the challenge
for them is, even with all that in the tank,
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when you control the entire government, it's hard to argue
that somebody else is responsible for your failures. Now here's
what I think they'll do in response to that. You
own the House, you own the Senate, you own the President,
and then I kind of own the Senate, right like
a tiny They're going to try to shift the attention
to the Supreme Court. That's what I think their pivot
(26:27):
is going to be. I think if you look forward,
they're going to argue that the Supreme Court is blocking,
is blocking the full fruition of the Biden White House
and the and the and the House for Nancy Pelosi
and everything else, and they're going to make the Supreme
Court the foil in twenty twenty two and probably in
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twenty twenty four. There's also that there's the Biden Court
Packing Commission. They call it something that they call it that,
you know, judicial fairness, investigate, whatever it's it's the Biden
Court Packing Commission. And that's look, that's your right. That's
gonna be a part of the narrative, especially with this
whole war on women abortion thing. That's you know, the
state of Texas has this really interesting law in the
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way that they've instituted it. I think you're going to
see other states go along with this too. One thing
that I don't think it's got enough attention. With all that,
Clay as well, and we can come back into this
although we never we never have enough time, Clain. We
could do a six hour show, literally, we could do
a six hour show every day. Don't worry, We're not
going to, but we could do a six hour show
every day. But it is I think it is. It
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is a statement almost of fact. I mean you could
say it's it's an assessment, but I think it's an
assessment for which it's very hard to find a strong
counter argument that as we see this playing out right
now in Texas and heading the Supreme Court over the
abortion issue, Donald Trump's election win in twenty sixteen, and
Donald Trump as a president was the most pro life,
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most consequential pro life president since Roe v. Wade was adopted.
Donald Trump will have done more for the cause of
life as president, and based on just the Supreme Court
picks that he's made, than anyone who came before him.
That's pretty remarkable, especially when I'm sure you've seen it.
At a Trump World they're saying he smells weakness with Biden,
and it's looking more and more like he may do it,
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but oh, he's I would be stunned at this point
if he doesn't run, and he almost was a two
weeks ago that we had him on as the last
everything runs together. I can't we're gonna get him to
do it. We're gonna do its announced on our show.
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you hanging out with us on this Tuesday. Good to
be back with my man, Buck. I was out Friday,
Buck was out Monday. We're back together now after a
nice labor day break, and I was just playing during
the commercial break for you, Buck. A lot of the
crowds college football. We heard earlier doctor Fauci saying that
he didn't like the fact that all these masked millions
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of people were willing to go to college football games
and stadiums that were packed all over the country. But
you are hearing, and I heard it in person. So
many college kids out there with anti Joe Biden chants
that are breaking out inside of stadiums, and I've never
seen anything like are they yelling fouci Joe Biden? Because
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it's something like there's an effort in front of Joe Biden.
And I mean, I've been going to college football games
my entire life, and I have never heard a group
of college kids chanting anti American president chance like this.
And look when Joe Biden's got a forty three percent
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approval rating from NPR polls, buck when the New York
Times is writing articles on their editorial page, why is
Joe Biden so unpopular? We were just talking in the
last segment if I always like to think about politics
from the perspective of Okay, let's try to figure out
what both sides can do to maximize their perspective as
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we come into the fall. I think it's fair to
say that Joe Biden has had one of the most
disastrous opening years in modern American history as the president.
I think that's fair to say, whether you're a Democrat
or a Republican in terms of approval rating, in terms
of actual substantive accomplishments, in terms of being able to
point to anything that is impressive. It's accomplished. Okay, so
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what do they do now? So what's fascinating is that
if they had a vice president that they really believed in, Yes,
I think you would see. I think it would be
much more likely that there would be right now a
ground swell among Democrats. Four. Not that Joe Biden's not
gonna resign, He's not gonna step down. That's never gonna happen. Okay,
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that's actually not going to happen. But there's a there
would be a ground swell four. And he said this himself,
people forget this now one term, only pass the torture
the VP, and you would start to hear that. Realistically,
after the midterms, you still could see something like that.
There may still be some Democrats who say that we're
a year out. We'll have to see. But in the meantime,
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what's very clear is that even Democrats recognize Kamala is
not gonna get it done. Kamala, you know, running think
they can't hand the presidency to Kamala Harris. She would
have to she'd have to run, you know, Joe Biden
would step down, she'd run as the I guess as
the incumbent and well, it depends on how they did it,
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but anyway, the point being she would have to actually
become the head of the Democrat Party in Clay. I
think that even Democrats recognize that that's not gonna work.
So then maybe you get to they run Joe Biden.
You always said the weekend at Bernie's President, we get
at Bernie's part. They get Joe Biden to run, maybe
he wins, and then he steps down in the beginning
of term two. As as dastardly as that scheme may seem,
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what you put it beyond, you put it beyond Democrats.
They're about to lie about COVID stuff in a year
and how it's too dangerous to be in line to
vote so they can try to win more elections than
mid terms. I think here's what I wish. I wish
the presidential election was next year, because I think if
Trump ran, he would absolutely obliterate whoever is running in
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whoever's going to be running for the Democrats. If the
election were in twenty twenty two, there are so many
things that can happen between now in twenty twenty four
that it's hard to forecast exactly will will be where
it will be who's gonna run? Like, I mean, would
you have foreseen if we were sitting here in you know,
twenty thirteen and one of us had come on the
air and said, hey, you know, I think twenty sixteen
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it's gonna be between Hillary Clinton and I think Donald
Trump's gonna run, and I think he's gonna beat Hillary Clinton.
That would have been a pretty crazy prediction. I remember
I was, I was in I was in conservative media
at the time, Clay and I was over at CNN,
and there were all these different I was the on
you know, an on air conservative when they still allowed
They don't even allow that anymore, but they used to have.
They'd have like, you know, they they'd bring you on
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that'd say, um, right wing lunatic buck Sexton wants to
weigh the anchor, and everybody's attack you with the whole thing.
But but even at that stage, they let's never forget,
they put Trump on air at CNN in twenty fifteen
going to the twenty sixteen election. They put him on
air because they thought it was funny. They thought it
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was amusing. It's good, right, how dumb these Republicans are
They're going with this guy, And of course we got
the last laugh, which is why Clay also, they never
would forgive Trump because the thing that he did. It
was even more than about the Supreme Court picks and
how there's now a real threat to Row thank God,
and all these real, real policy changes that came from Trump.
The unforgivable sin of Donald Trump, as far as the
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media was concerned, was that he was a threat to
the vanity of the journo elites. They would that was
too far, too much, calling them fake news, all of it.
Twenty five percent. We should mention the study that came
out twenty five percent of Trump, sorry, of Biden voters
now regret their vote. And so I don't think there's
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any way they can weekend at Bernie's style to try
to drag him across the finish line. I just I'm
not even sure what they pivot too. I think abortion
and the Supreme Court will be one of the things
they try to distract people with. I mean, I think
that's where they feel maybe they can energize some supporters
who aren't energized in any way by Joe Biden. I'm
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curious to see what happens with the budget because I
think that's a big part of this too. If Rowe
is struck down though, as we've talked about here, Clay,
and this will be a big issue from now until June.
It just goes back to the States and then what
I think will happen is people will see, okay, well,
state legislatures will pass laws about this, and some will
have you know, a six week or a ten week
or whatever restriction. Others will be abortion and any time
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for any reason. And when people see that it's not
actually this Handmaid's Tale dystopio that the left, so I'm
not I mean that it's a great it may not
even be the issue they think it is. So you know,
basically everything is racist, I think is their most left
Oh and class warfare, socialism stuff. There you go, and
we'll see what happens with the budget. It's gonna be huge,
I think, to see whether Biden can get that pushed through,
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and I'm not sure that he can. Thanks for being
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