September 8, 2021 • 36 mins
Joe Rogan threatens to sue CNN over ivermectin lie. AOC can't say "women" -- uses woke term "menstruating persons". Highest-paid ESPN personality, Stephen A. Smith, is glad unvaccinated athletes are under pressure. If it was up to him: They wouldn't be allowed to play. Do we believe Joe Manchin? Who owns the Wuhan Institute of Virology? Fauci lied to Congress, he needs to be prosecuted.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. We welcome back in our number three
Wednesday edition Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Encourage you go download
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his name, Buck Sexton. Tons of you downloading the podcast,
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and if you missed the first couple of hours, here's
some of the things you might have missed. We talked
about doctor Anthony Fauci against Florida Governor Ronda Santis, a
battle Royale over COVID responses, Jimmy Kimmel, and the dearth
of late night talk show humor as it pertains to
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making fun of both sides. We talked about Nancy Pelosi
trying to spread the propaganda of the Afghan Afghanistan withdrawal
being a success, Kamala Harris, the bail fund that she
helped to found, failing somebody out who was accused of
domestic assault, who was then accused of murder, and how
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much different the coverage of that might have been. And
we've still got a lot to get to including I
still want to tee off on this Roberty Lee statue
in Richmond that's been removed. Buck, as a New York
City guy, has virtually no interest in the Confederate Soldier controversy.
I hate destroying statues and tearing that stuff down. But
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we'll talk about it a little bit. I'll give you
my perspective. I still want to dive into and talk
about news that came out earlier today Joe Manchin saying hey,
not only is he not going to support the three
point five trillion, which he said in a Wall Street
Journal editorial, but he's now down to saying, hey, I
think I can only support maybe a trillion dollar budget.
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That is a big loss for Joe Biden. Will he
actually be willing to stand behind it. But one of
the guys that I think is helping to bring more
people to the same side of the political aisle is Rogan.
And we talked about last week Buck, the fact that
there were so many people out there as soon as
Joe Rogan tested positive for COVID that we got in
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this era now and I think you agree with me
on this, Buck, where people want for people like you
and me, Joe Rogan, whoever it might be. People have
been saying, hey, we got to get on with our
lives if we get COVID. It's like, hey, they want
us to die from it. Yes, right to try to
prove that how wrong we were to say that we
could have normal We say this online, we can see
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the comments. We're not surmising. We're not theorising that hon
us to die. I mean, people said horrible things the
beginning about what they wanted to happen to older family
members of mine, to me because I was an advocate
for not locking down and doing things that now we
all know did nothing. But they won't. They will never
accept that. But you got COVID. I got COVID, and
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you know, people would have been very happy a lot,
especially on the left, if we could have died and
they could have put a picture of us up in
the hospital, like, oh, look at this guy. He's on
a ventilator and he said that we had to live
normal lives. Yeah. I still think that even if I
were to get COVID and die, I would still be
of the opinion that we have to live normal lives,
just as if I were to die in a car accident, tomorrow,
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I wouldn't be like man, I should have never gotten
behind the wheel now. I mean, you have to life
or requires a certain measure of risk. We've got the
biggest radio show in the country, Joe Rogan has got
right now, I think, by most measures, the largest podcast
audience in the country. And he went on talking about
the coverage that CNN put out about him and questioning
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whether or not he should sue CNN. And I think
this is a big deal buck because it cuts through
We always talk about how do we reach that persuadable
twenty right, the people who might be reasonable, they're not
going to be far left wingers, how do we reach them.
I think a guy like Joe Rogan has the opportunity
to reach a lot of people. I don't think he's
gonna be able to do very much if he were
to Susie and and also think I don't think he's
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going to susynn right. But it's an interesting discussion. I mean,
I guess, I mean, what's first of all, CNN, even
with its low ratings. Unfortunately I know a bit about this.
I actually have some friends who are secret conservatives as
producers over at CNN, so that's a tree. Yeah. Oh yeah,
So I have pretty good, pretty good sources over there,
And CNN makes so much money on digital and CNN
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International that they could run they could. And also they
get a premium from advertisers because CNN is considered a
gold standard brand, So even though their numbers are less,
you know, you'll see a lot of Mercedes commercials, etc.
On CNN's airways, where you won't see that with anything
that's even remotely aligned with conservative media, at least not
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the same way. So look, I think that Rogan's this
moment just goes to show you that even somebody who
is generally first of all, he's also like a Hollywood
and sports crossover. He exists in these different, these different
worlds where he has substantial following. But this issue is
so important to leftist orthod see that they will like
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a pack. I guess a school of piranhas go after
Joe Rogan when the guy is sick. I mean a
normal again, emotionally healthy and stable American adult. Here's that
a fellow human being, never mind a fellow American celebrity
podcaster is sick and wishes them well right away. But
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that's not what you get on this because your point,
they want to make an example out of him, and
it was on the on the ivermectin thing in particular,
that's right. Why does this send them into such a frenzy?
And they say and bothered, This is why I got
so upset about the Jimmy Kimmel joke. It's just because
I think that it's it's really it's really unfair. By
the way I said before, millions of people's lives have
been saved. It might be more like hundreds of thousands,
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but it's hundreds of thousands of people who have been
saved from river blindness, among other things, from from actually
going blind over since since ivermectin came on the scene.
And to downplay not only that, to downplay that as
an important medical achievement, but then also to just be
constantly slam like clay, where's the humility from the left
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on anything? I read the headlines? Fauci is a moron
who's wrong all the time. But people still think that
if they cling to Fauci like a little intellectual safety blanket,
they're being wise and they're the good people. This guy's
wrong all the time. How is it possible to have
been wrong so often as the lockdowners have and not
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at least have a moment off. You know what, maybe
we should at least be willing to engage the other side.
They don't want to engage, They want to dictate. Yeah,
And look, that's where I think the Joe Rogan impact
could be significant in terms of opening up the eyes
to some people who are persuadable. And in particular the
ivermectin which you were prescribed, as we talked about earlier
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when you had COVID, and which Joe Rogan was prescribed,
and they made it sound like Rogan had gone to
like a vet clinic at CNN they did, and MSNBC
as well, and stolen like a horse the warming pill.
Can I just say also when I was prescribed it
by by a doctor here in New York, I wasn't told.
He didn't say take the ivermectin. It's a it's a
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miracle cure. It's a silver bullet. You'll be better in
an hour. He said, Look, if you want to. There's
been some in vitro. I mean he actually has read
the scientific studies, the real scientific sites. This he's been
there's Some'm not sorry, not in vitro. Well whatever, there's
been some in the lab studies of this done that
it actually seems to show some effect against the virus
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replicating itself. He's like, but he basically said it to me, like,
you can take it. It may not do anything, but
it's it's really not going to hurt you. So it's
your call. It's a drug cocktail, so it's your call.
So it was like he was giving me something where
you know, he said if you want to, or you
can just sit there and suffer and you know, hope
it goes away, which is what I ended up doing, right,
I mean I took the ivermectin, but it you know,
took me about a week to get better. But Clay,
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they're not even honest about how when it is prescribed
for people, the circumstances under which it's done. Um, you
know they were they were trying to spend for a while.
What was the I'm forgetting it not not regeneron? Uh
what was the hydroxychlorica? No, no, no no, no, no, no,
there's that. But remember there was the thing that we
were gonna It was very expensive naqua clockle or whatever. No,
not not the antibodies Montacaul antibodies. There was the other
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treatment that you could only get in the hospital. I
forget in the early days. I'm forgetting what it was.
But what was it called remdesevie. Thank you team here remdesesvie.
We were giving people remdes remdesvie ended up at best.
They think maybe it limited people's hospital stays like a
day or two. But we were trying stuff, which is
what science is about. Because we don't know and the
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end the application of ivermectin from MDC people isn't. Oh hey, guys,
I read on the innerwebs there's a secret cure for COVID.
It's this is safe, it's well tolerated, it's early, it's
worth a shot if you want. It won't hurt you.
It's as safe as taking you know, like something like
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a tailand all or whatever. And people act like we're
all to your point, we're going in and stealing you know,
horse injectables or something and stabbing ourselves in the a
order with it. I mean, they're just out of their minds. Yeah,
listen to here's Joe Rogan talking about the inaccuracies in
the way his COVID treatments were covered. Play cut three. Well, well,
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well it was an old horse worm Rogan. I'm glad
you're I'm glad you're well. Man, Do I have to
sue CNN? They're making up? They keep saying I'm taking
horsty wormer. I literally got it from a doctor. It's
an American company. They won the Nobel Prize in twenty
fifteen for use in human beings. And CNN is saying
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I'm taking horsty wormer. They must know that's a lie.
That's the point, Clay. They must know it's a lie. Yes,
and they must know that this is And that's why again,
I got so I get so mad about the Kimmel
thing because he gives additional oxygen by making jokes about
the horsete warmer. It's not a horste warmer. Primarily, it's
for human beings, and a sayeth a lot of lives. Yeah,
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And look, I think what this is a function of.
I think a lot of people just take headlines and
presume that they're true. We saw this with the Ivermectin
story and Rolling Stone, which was one hundred percent false
but spread like wildfire throughout the internet. And if your
team is sharing a story, the presumption is, oh, that
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story must be true, and there's very little behind the
scenes research or analysis that goes into is the underlying
story true. And look, I mean a lot of this
stuff can turn into complete lies. Look at Joe biden Stead.
He based his entire campaign on the fact that Donald
Trump called the two sides at the at the rally.
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And try if you read the transcrip, very fine people,
it's one hundred percent of a line clay. It also
feels like a lot of this stuff it's it's just
malig I mean, there's a malice. And now we could
actually use some of what the terminology would be if
you were going to bring a defamation lawsuit. Right, there
has to be malice as well as it being untrue statements,
you know, intentionally untrue. But I think that what you
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have is the people that are in charge of our
COVID policy overall at some level, no and I mean Biden,
but also the medical establishment. Not you're you know, your
MD and your neighborhood, but I mean the people that
run the CDC, the medical bureaucracy at the federal government level.
Play they've failed us, and they know it over and
over and they know it. And there's a lot of
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anger and anxiety, and there's a lot of I think
mass mental illness and neuroses that has come from this.
And instead of the medical establishment, and again I mean
that by the CDC and everything, So not any MD
who happens to be listening to this, but the medical
establishment that's pushed all this government control being honest with us,
which would involve accountability for them for being wrong. Clay,
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I think they just channel all that rage, all that
bile at a preferred political target, which is the unvaxed
Trump only of course supporting even the largest group of
unvaxed people in America are black presentaboubly be supporting Joe Biden,
like in terms of looking at you know, the socioeconomics
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and look you for Faucci and the rest of them.
It's either go along with the CNA narrative that the
bad guys are you and me and anybody out there
who stands in question of never mind even just against
this stuff, or admit, what the heck have we been
doing here this whole time? How have we made this
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better than it would otherwise be? We've done zero, We
destroyed our economy, We've undercut and destabilized massive amounts of
American institutions, and in the end we would have been
far better off. I really do believe this. If we
had done nothing at all, we would have her community
by now, and kids would have never been out of
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back to Clay Travis and Bucks Exton Show. This is
Buck and you no doubt are familiar with. Is Alexandria
Ocasio Cortez, better known as a OC, and she is
(14:30):
the member of Congress who can certainly get the most headlines.
Pelosi is the most powerful Democrat of Congress in Congress.
But AOC can just flip open her phone, do a
live stream, and get CNN levels of viewership from her phone.
It seems it's pretty amazing to watch it play out
in real time, especially given how I just believe she's
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a very very ignorant person without a particularly developed knowledge
of really anything other than progressive logan's and sloganeering. And
she's also somebody who is of course always very critical
of people on the right for not following the science. Meanwhile,
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on issues like the Texas Heartbeat Bill, people like AOC
will refer to, well, I want you to just listen
to this club this was on CNN. Listen to the
different ways that how you and I Clay would describe
women pretty straightforward, the ways that she replaces that term.
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When we talk about the law that was passed in Texas,
we know that anti choice bills are not about being
pro life, because if they were about being pro life,
then the Republican Party would support, frankly, an agenda that
helps guaranteed healthcare that helps ensure that people who do
give birth that don't have the resources to care for
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a child can have that care for a child. So
we know that none of this is about life. None
of this is about supporting life. What this is about
is controlling women's bodies and controlling people who are not
sis gender men. This is about making sure that someone
like me, as a woman, or any menstruating person in
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this country cannot make decisions over their own body, and
people like Governor Abbott and Mitch McConnell want to have
more control over a woman's body than that woman or
that person has over themselves. Okay, Clay, just just a
few I took notes all this one. People who give
birth also known as women, menstruating person also known as
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a woman, but they will not use that term because,
as you know, leftist orthodoxy is now that women can
have male genitalia and men can give birth. It's it's
mind blowing how broken the logic is for people like AOC.
And you can even hear her in her head thinking
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about instead of just saying women, she's thinking menstruating, menstruating
person like you can't even say pregnant woman anymore. It's
got to be pregnant person for the aocs of the world,
birthing persons instead of moms. I mean, this is all chaotic,
and where it leads is reasonable people across the country
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life experience. And when you don't connect with people's life experience,
you know what happens in elections. You get your ass kicked.
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We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. A
couple different things that are worth hitting here. Axios reported
early this morning that Joe Mansion has let the White
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House know that he is not going to support the
three point five trillion anywhere near the three point five trillion,
that in fact, he may not support a budget over
one trillion or one and a half trillion, meaning basically
the Biden domestic agenda, the Bernie budget would be dead. Buck.
Do you believe him when he says this? Do you
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think that the three point five trillion, which we all
know actually if you talk to senators, and by the way,
I think we're talking to rand Paul tomorrow, so we'll
ask him what he thinks about this. Do you believe
Joe Mansion when he says, I'm not going to support
anywhere near this three point five trillion, it's more like
a trillion or a trillion and a half. I do.
And I think there's a little bit of a Mott
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and Bailey argument going on here where, but with a
spending twist right where three point five trillion dollars of
spending is just blowout. I mean, remember the Obama stimulus package,
not harp, which people always can flight, but the stimulus
package was about a trillion dollars that led to the
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Tea party that was yes, And that wasn't that long
ago where people were saying, hold on a second, you're
just gonna spend another trillion dollars. What's this going to
do for future generations? What's this going to do to
the value of our of our currency and to long
term economic trends that affect all of us in our
day to day lives. Three point five trillion play on
top of the trillions that were spent in COVID, emergency
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and relief funds and all the other things. You're paying
people to stay home and paying businesses. Remember peppan so
much money. So this is just a long way of saying, yeah,
I think he's probably willing to stand in the way
of the three point five trillion and go along with
one trillion. It's still a trillion dollars of spending, right.
I mean, that just goes to show you where we
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are now as a country. And I think until inflation
becomes so obvious and so painful that no one can
deny the impact that's having on their data. I mean
right now, I mean food. Just going to a restaurant
these days, you can see things are expensive in ways
that they can't hide. They try gas right, So you know,
home prices have been very very interesting, and certainly in
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some parts of the country recently very fast rise. There
was a huge surgeon lumber material where I think it
went up three hundred lumber when I went up about
three hundred percent. It's come back down since then a bit.
But point here being clay, Okay, yeah, like how much
how excited can we get about reason and sanity winning
the day when Joe Mansion as the fiftieth vote saying, Hey,
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I'm going to protect us from the debt bomb by
saying it's a trillion dollars of extra spending on top
of the trillions we already spend year and a year out,
not three and a half. Yeah, here's the opening sentence.
By the way of the Axios report, Senator Joe Mansion
has privately warned the White House and congressional leaders that
he has specific policy concerns with President Biden's three point
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five trillion social spending dream, and he'll support as little
as one trillion of it at most he's open to
supporting one and a half trillion, Sources familiar with the
discussion say, and some people out there may be saying, well,
why do you care about Joe Mansion West Virginia Senator.
Remember they're trying to pass this through budget reconciliation, which
means they have to get every Democratic vote and Kamala
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Harris would have to break the tie. So if you
have one senator who is saying I'm not in support
of this, then it all goes up in smoke. And
remember we've already had Kristen Cinema come out basically and
say that she doesn't support it either. The Democrats don't
have the votes, at least publicly based on Cinema and Mansion,
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based on what they're saying, and then whether or not
you believe them, that's the next question, right And well,
as we all know, there's gonna be a lot of
horse trading behind the scenes, a lot of pressure brought
to bear. Democrats have a whole lot of ways to
induce people, to reward people, uh and and to pressure them.
Just as an aside, Clay, our favorite former governor of
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New York now the Attorney General, Leticia James looking into
the five million dollar book deal he got. You and
I are both in the media business. You don't get
five million dollar book deals. I mean, that's that's like
former president who's a Democrat, memoir level money. But there's
a lot of ways, And I'm just bringing that up
because there's a lot of ways that they can try
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to either turn the screws or offer you some sweeteners
to get you to go their way. But for Mansion,
you know, he's he's in that special position where he
could play spoiler on the He's in some ways the
most powerful senator in America right now. He might be
the most powerful politician in America right now, and you
consider what Joe Biden's actually got. I want to play
this clip for you too, Buck. I haven't even heard
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this yet. I've seen the transcript on it. Stephen A.
Smith is the highest paid person at ESPN, making twelve
million a year. Twelve million a year at ESPN, Stephen A.
Smith makes more money at ESPN than any football, basketball
or coach in America. Kind of put into context, I mean,
that's a that's a big salary. You talk about earlier
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how politics is downstream from culture, which I think is
is well. Said Stephen A. Smith yesterday on ESPN, argued
that every sports league in America should mandate every player
have the vaccine. Listen to this. This is the thing
that drives me nuts. And that's why I say, I'm
so done with people take it. I'm talking about the
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athletes because the NFL, the NBA's a private industry. Yeah,
we must have to play. You'll get title to play.
I mean, I think it's shameful when athletes talk about, oh,
it's a private matter. It is not a private matter,
because it affects anybody a standing right now, not living
a private You're not living a private luck. That's ridiculous.
But this is the thing that broughts you crazy. And
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I got to say this. You're gonna laugh when I
say this, Marcus, because you know I'm gonna point with this.
If I hit one more person money, if I hit
one more person, Marcus, talk to me about we're sitting
to X that I might slap it with my fault.
I can't take it. It's the biggest damn lie imaginable.
They're full of it. And so I'm telling you right now,
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the NFL, I'm glad the NFL has made it inconvenient
for unvaccinated people. I'm glad the NFL and the NBA.
I'm sorry he has stepped it up. If it were me,
they wouldn't even be allowed to play clay. So I
just want to be clear, it's a private matter when
they're gonna force you to get a shot, including people
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who've already had COVID, and they won't make any exceptions
for natural immunity, because you know, that's science that we're
forced to forget for no apparent good reason. But was
it a private matter if teams or the league wanted
to tell people not to kneel. I have a feeling
then all of a sudden, mister Stephen A. Smith has
a very different view of the private sector and work.
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It's a great point. And look, there have been there's
been so much pressure put on players to try to
force them to get the vaccine that I think they're
a little bit canary in the coal mines here because
so many Americans out there listening to us right now
are getting pressured to get this vaccine who, maybe like
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you and me, buck have already had COVID. It's like,
we can't even discuss that fact, and when you have
the highest paid ESPN employee screaming at people you talked
about how it can influence the league. The NFL's watching
some of that stuff, the NBA's watching some of that stuff.
When they've got the media arguing that they should have
vaccine mandates, it makes vaccine mandates more likely. But here's
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where it's blowing up, Buck. A lot of these athletes
are still testing positive because the vaccine doesn't stop you
from getting COVID, and the athletes are already under minimal risk.
None of them have had serious health conditions. And so
the fact that you're trying to lecture us and say
that all athletes should be mandated, you know that they
never mandated the flu shot. They should be testing less
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in at professional athletics, in my mind than they are
if you're six, stay home. But the actual risk of
these athletes is zero. Do you remember when they used
to talk about how forty percent of cases that was
the number that was thrown around and I'm going back now,
really I think over a year, Yeah, forty percent of
cases were asymptomatic. It's so you don't really hear very
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much about this anymore, do you. You know you don't
hear about the forty percent of cases that are asymptomatic.
You also to our conversation yesterday about about how this ends.
How is it possible that we have a three hundred
percent increase in COVID cases right now year over year
at this point in time when they're when we have
two hundred million people vaccinated in America. Great question, and
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no vaccines a year ago. We all know, we can
all agree there were no vaccines twelve months ago. It's
two hundred million vaccines. We have more cases now. I've
seen some people try things like it's because they got
rid of mask man dates. No, no, no, that's it's cute,
but it's sad at the same time, and people try
to cling to their their little their little fouci cloth um.
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But there's there's no effort Clay to even address some
of this or try to explain it in a intelligent fashion.
You're right, I mean the fact that we have doubled hospitalizations,
the fact that cases have skyrocketed over last year. When
Joe Biden was lecturing the White House on how poor
of a job they've done responding to COVID, well, he's
been in office almost a year now and he's doing
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a worse job. It's amazing. Well, we got a lot
of folks that want to weigh in on this and
other things. To eight hundred two two two eight two.
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close it out with your thoughts from all across the country.
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I'm really bad. No, I'm sorry, No, I'm I just
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not yet done yet because I get excited where we
talk about it in our editorial meetings. But we will
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amazing job every day and be here on the EIB.
Jeff Conquered North Carolina, not to be confused with Conquered
New Hampshire. Jeff, what's up. Yeah, I'm kind of a valid,
valid reason to support my question. But my question is
who owns the Wuhan Labs. Well, the Chinese Communist Party,
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the Chinese People's Liberation Army SLASH, probably some private investors too,
maybe at some level. I don't know, but that's a
that's an interesting question. I felt the same way because
of this point. But I used to work for a
company that sent me to China through the years of
two thousand and two thousand and eight, now working in
(32:20):
nan Chou, which was more the industrial side, and it
also visited Shanghai. I never did anything touristy, but I
know to get around over there you had to have
a driver and a translator when I was going, because
everything everything is in Chinese. I did recognize the industrial
section some United States businesses or US businesses that had
(32:41):
their logo on some of the entrance sides along with Chinese.
But every time you see the Wuhan Lab shown on
the news, the buildings labeled in English the Wuhan Institute
of Virology, I've seen that too. It's interesting. Yes, I mean,
it's interesting point. I mean, look, the reports that are
out there are that we gave millions of dollars for
(33:05):
gain of function research. I don't know if you saw
bucks some of the videos that Fox News has been
running of alleged bats from inside of some of these labs.
That does not seem to be very restrained in terms
of like there are people with the bats crawling all
over them from inside of these Chinese labs. And again,
(33:26):
we talked a lot about this, but Fauci, to me,
should have to resign, and I think he should face
severe criminal investigation over his testimony and from lying to
Congress is either a crime or it's not. But as
we know, especially in those highly politicized incidents or cases,
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there are two standards of justice, one for Democrats, one
for Republicans. Time and again, I mean that's that was
really the whole Muller probe was relying on the grinding
gear years of bureaucracy to get people on process crimes.
I mean, Democrats don't don't go to prison. Process crimes
come on. And also, I mean, to be fair, perjury
is a notoriously difficult charge to prove because you're not
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only having to prove that something is false, you're having
to prove that someone knew it was false and was
intending to speak in a way that was a falsehood.
And if you listen to the way that Fauci has
been talking, even when he got into it with Rand
Paul and that viral clip their most recent head to head,
he was clearly parroting what lawyers had told him in
(34:36):
trying to make a subtle distinction regarding what gain a
function was. That was clearly his intempt. I mean, when
I heard it, it sounded Bill Clintonian to me when
he said that depends on what the meaning of the
word is, is right. I mean, it's very legalistic, driving
down almost that he's trying to protect himself in that
(34:57):
respect because he knows that, as most people would hear it,
he has been lying. I think Faucci knows that. I
think Faucci knows a lot of things that he won't
say out loud, a lot of things you want to
talk about it fancy cocktail parties in in Potomac and
in Georgetown. But I'm telling you this much, I'm not
letting it go. Man. I've been I've been on Faucci's
(35:20):
trail from the very beginning. He is my tiny white whale,
and I am not letting this go man, this guy
or fellow a hum as well. I mean, that's the
ironic thing. I'm really just I'm really just bitter that
he goes for more than I do for my high
school every year lunch with Fluch. More did he go
compared to you? I don't know. I we don't need
to get into number. It was it was, it was more.
(35:41):
We don't need to get into numbers though. You know.
It's not a this is not a scoreboard, big buddy.
It's for charity. The only thing better would be if
they just put paired you with Fauci like they gave
you away, like your co host Clay Travis is convincing
Americans at the football stadiums to go without them. We're
(36:05):
gonna be a woffee all over me because of what
you do so and me too. He knows that I
can't stand him, So there's that. I'm sorry. I got
your play schedule, Birmingham. You're gonna go to Ole Miss Alabama.
I'm excited. That's right. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be
part of the Unmasked masses. Oh, miss Alabama, It's gonna
be amazing. We've got a lot to talk to you
about tomorrow already. In mind, Clay and I never get
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making fun of both sides. We talked about Nancy Pelosi
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being a success, Kamala Harris, the bail fund that she
helped to found, failing somebody out who was accused of
domestic assault, who was then accused of murder, and how
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much different the coverage of that might have been. And
we've still got a lot to get to including I
still want to tee off on this Roberty Lee statue
in Richmond that's been removed. Buck, as a New York
City guy, has virtually no interest in the Confederate Soldier controversy.
I hate destroying statues and tearing that stuff down. But
(01:25):
we'll talk about it a little bit. I'll give you
my perspective. I still want to dive into and talk
about news that came out earlier today Joe Manchin saying hey,
not only is he not going to support the three
point five trillion, which he said in a Wall Street
Journal editorial, but he's now down to saying, hey, I
think I can only support maybe a trillion dollar budget.
(01:46):
That is a big loss for Joe Biden. Will he
actually be willing to stand behind it. But one of
the guys that I think is helping to bring more
people to the same side of the political aisle is Rogan.
And we talked about last week Buck, the fact that
there were so many people out there as soon as
Joe Rogan tested positive for COVID that we got in
(02:08):
this era now and I think you agree with me
on this, Buck, where people want for people like you
and me, Joe Rogan, whoever it might be. People have
been saying, hey, we got to get on with our
lives if we get COVID. It's like, hey, they want
us to die from it. Yes, right to try to
prove that how wrong we were to say that we
could have normal We say this online, we can see
(02:29):
the comments. We're not surmising. We're not theorising that hon
us to die. I mean, people said horrible things the
beginning about what they wanted to happen to older family
members of mine, to me because I was an advocate
for not locking down and doing things that now we
all know did nothing. But they won't. They will never
accept that. But you got COVID. I got COVID, and
(02:49):
you know, people would have been very happy a lot,
especially on the left, if we could have died and
they could have put a picture of us up in
the hospital, like, oh, look at this guy. He's on
a ventilator and he said that we had to live
normal lives. Yeah. I still think that even if I
were to get COVID and die, I would still be
of the opinion that we have to live normal lives,
just as if I were to die in a car accident, tomorrow,
(03:11):
I wouldn't be like man, I should have never gotten
behind the wheel now. I mean, you have to life
or requires a certain measure of risk. We've got the
biggest radio show in the country, Joe Rogan has got
right now, I think, by most measures, the largest podcast
audience in the country. And he went on talking about
the coverage that CNN put out about him and questioning
(03:35):
whether or not he should sue CNN. And I think
this is a big deal buck because it cuts through
We always talk about how do we reach that persuadable
twenty right, the people who might be reasonable, they're not
going to be far left wingers, how do we reach them.
I think a guy like Joe Rogan has the opportunity
to reach a lot of people. I don't think he's
gonna be able to do very much if he were
to Susie and and also think I don't think he's
(03:56):
going to susynn right. But it's an interesting discussion. I mean,
I guess, I mean, what's first of all, CNN, even
with its low ratings. Unfortunately I know a bit about this.
I actually have some friends who are secret conservatives as
producers over at CNN, so that's a tree. Yeah. Oh yeah,
So I have pretty good, pretty good sources over there,
And CNN makes so much money on digital and CNN
(04:18):
International that they could run they could. And also they
get a premium from advertisers because CNN is considered a
gold standard brand, So even though their numbers are less,
you know, you'll see a lot of Mercedes commercials, etc.
On CNN's airways, where you won't see that with anything
that's even remotely aligned with conservative media, at least not
(04:40):
the same way. So look, I think that Rogan's this
moment just goes to show you that even somebody who
is generally first of all, he's also like a Hollywood
and sports crossover. He exists in these different, these different
worlds where he has substantial following. But this issue is
so important to leftist orthod see that they will like
(05:02):
a pack. I guess a school of piranhas go after
Joe Rogan when the guy is sick. I mean a
normal again, emotionally healthy and stable American adult. Here's that
a fellow human being, never mind a fellow American celebrity
podcaster is sick and wishes them well right away. But
(05:24):
that's not what you get on this because your point,
they want to make an example out of him, and
it was on the on the ivermectin thing in particular,
that's right. Why does this send them into such a frenzy?
And they say and bothered, This is why I got
so upset about the Jimmy Kimmel joke. It's just because
I think that it's it's really it's really unfair. By
the way I said before, millions of people's lives have
been saved. It might be more like hundreds of thousands,
(05:46):
but it's hundreds of thousands of people who have been
saved from river blindness, among other things, from from actually
going blind over since since ivermectin came on the scene.
And to downplay not only that, to downplay that as
an important medical achievement, but then also to just be
constantly slam like clay, where's the humility from the left
(06:08):
on anything? I read the headlines? Fauci is a moron
who's wrong all the time. But people still think that
if they cling to Fauci like a little intellectual safety blanket,
they're being wise and they're the good people. This guy's
wrong all the time. How is it possible to have
been wrong so often as the lockdowners have and not
(06:28):
at least have a moment off. You know what, maybe
we should at least be willing to engage the other side.
They don't want to engage, They want to dictate. Yeah,
And look, that's where I think the Joe Rogan impact
could be significant in terms of opening up the eyes
to some people who are persuadable. And in particular the
ivermectin which you were prescribed, as we talked about earlier
(06:50):
when you had COVID, and which Joe Rogan was prescribed,
and they made it sound like Rogan had gone to
like a vet clinic at CNN they did, and MSNBC
as well, and stolen like a horse the warming pill.
Can I just say also when I was prescribed it
by by a doctor here in New York, I wasn't told.
He didn't say take the ivermectin. It's a it's a
(07:13):
miracle cure. It's a silver bullet. You'll be better in
an hour. He said, Look, if you want to. There's
been some in vitro. I mean he actually has read
the scientific studies, the real scientific sites. This he's been
there's Some'm not sorry, not in vitro. Well whatever, there's
been some in the lab studies of this done that
it actually seems to show some effect against the virus
(07:35):
replicating itself. He's like, but he basically said it to me, like,
you can take it. It may not do anything, but
it's it's really not going to hurt you. So it's
your call. It's a drug cocktail, so it's your call.
So it was like he was giving me something where
you know, he said if you want to, or you
can just sit there and suffer and you know, hope
it goes away, which is what I ended up doing, right,
I mean I took the ivermectin, but it you know,
took me about a week to get better. But Clay,
(07:57):
they're not even honest about how when it is prescribed
for people, the circumstances under which it's done. Um, you
know they were they were trying to spend for a while.
What was the I'm forgetting it not not regeneron? Uh
what was the hydroxychlorica? No, no, no no, no, no, no,
there's that. But remember there was the thing that we
were gonna It was very expensive naqua clockle or whatever. No,
not not the antibodies Montacaul antibodies. There was the other
(08:20):
treatment that you could only get in the hospital. I
forget in the early days. I'm forgetting what it was.
But what was it called remdesevie. Thank you team here remdesesvie.
We were giving people remdes remdesvie ended up at best.
They think maybe it limited people's hospital stays like a
day or two. But we were trying stuff, which is
what science is about. Because we don't know and the
(08:42):
end the application of ivermectin from MDC people isn't. Oh hey, guys,
I read on the innerwebs there's a secret cure for COVID.
It's this is safe, it's well tolerated, it's early, it's
worth a shot if you want. It won't hurt you.
It's as safe as taking you know, like something like
(09:03):
a tailand all or whatever. And people act like we're
all to your point, we're going in and stealing you know,
horse injectables or something and stabbing ourselves in the a
order with it. I mean, they're just out of their minds. Yeah,
listen to here's Joe Rogan talking about the inaccuracies in
the way his COVID treatments were covered. Play cut three. Well, well,
(09:24):
well it was an old horse worm Rogan. I'm glad
you're I'm glad you're well. Man, Do I have to
sue CNN? They're making up? They keep saying I'm taking
horsty wormer. I literally got it from a doctor. It's
an American company. They won the Nobel Prize in twenty
fifteen for use in human beings. And CNN is saying
(09:46):
I'm taking horsty wormer. They must know that's a lie.
That's the point, Clay. They must know it's a lie. Yes,
and they must know that this is And that's why again,
I got so I get so mad about the Kimmel
thing because he gives additional oxygen by making jokes about
the horsete warmer. It's not a horste warmer. Primarily, it's
for human beings, and a sayeth a lot of lives. Yeah,
(10:07):
And look, I think what this is a function of.
I think a lot of people just take headlines and
presume that they're true. We saw this with the Ivermectin
story and Rolling Stone, which was one hundred percent false
but spread like wildfire throughout the internet. And if your
team is sharing a story, the presumption is, oh, that
(10:30):
story must be true, and there's very little behind the
scenes research or analysis that goes into is the underlying
story true. And look, I mean a lot of this
stuff can turn into complete lies. Look at Joe biden Stead.
He based his entire campaign on the fact that Donald
Trump called the two sides at the at the rally.
(10:51):
And try if you read the transcrip, very fine people,
it's one hundred percent of a line clay. It also
feels like a lot of this stuff it's it's just
malig I mean, there's a malice. And now we could
actually use some of what the terminology would be if
you were going to bring a defamation lawsuit. Right, there
has to be malice as well as it being untrue statements,
you know, intentionally untrue. But I think that what you
(11:13):
have is the people that are in charge of our
COVID policy overall at some level, no and I mean Biden,
but also the medical establishment. Not you're you know, your
MD and your neighborhood, but I mean the people that
run the CDC, the medical bureaucracy at the federal government level.
Play they've failed us, and they know it over and
over and they know it. And there's a lot of
(11:36):
anger and anxiety, and there's a lot of I think
mass mental illness and neuroses that has come from this.
And instead of the medical establishment, and again I mean
that by the CDC and everything, So not any MD
who happens to be listening to this, but the medical
establishment that's pushed all this government control being honest with us,
which would involve accountability for them for being wrong. Clay,
(12:00):
I think they just channel all that rage, all that
bile at a preferred political target, which is the unvaxed
Trump only of course supporting even the largest group of
unvaxed people in America are black presentaboubly be supporting Joe Biden,
like in terms of looking at you know, the socioeconomics
(12:22):
and look you for Faucci and the rest of them.
It's either go along with the CNA narrative that the
bad guys are you and me and anybody out there
who stands in question of never mind even just against
this stuff, or admit, what the heck have we been
doing here this whole time? How have we made this
(12:42):
better than it would otherwise be? We've done zero, We
destroyed our economy, We've undercut and destabilized massive amounts of
American institutions, and in the end we would have been
far better off. I really do believe this. If we
had done nothing at all, we would have her community
by now, and kids would have never been out of
(13:03):
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Buck and you no doubt are familiar with. Is Alexandria
Ocasio Cortez, better known as a OC, and she is
(14:30):
the member of Congress who can certainly get the most headlines.
Pelosi is the most powerful Democrat of Congress in Congress.
But AOC can just flip open her phone, do a
live stream, and get CNN levels of viewership from her phone.
It seems it's pretty amazing to watch it play out
in real time, especially given how I just believe she's
(14:51):
a very very ignorant person without a particularly developed knowledge
of really anything other than progressive logan's and sloganeering. And
she's also somebody who is of course always very critical
of people on the right for not following the science. Meanwhile,
(15:11):
on issues like the Texas Heartbeat Bill, people like AOC
will refer to, well, I want you to just listen
to this club this was on CNN. Listen to the
different ways that how you and I Clay would describe
women pretty straightforward, the ways that she replaces that term.
(15:33):
When we talk about the law that was passed in Texas,
we know that anti choice bills are not about being
pro life, because if they were about being pro life,
then the Republican Party would support, frankly, an agenda that
helps guaranteed healthcare that helps ensure that people who do
give birth that don't have the resources to care for
(15:56):
a child can have that care for a child. So
we know that none of this is about life. None
of this is about supporting life. What this is about
is controlling women's bodies and controlling people who are not
sis gender men. This is about making sure that someone
like me, as a woman, or any menstruating person in
(16:18):
this country cannot make decisions over their own body, and
people like Governor Abbott and Mitch McConnell want to have
more control over a woman's body than that woman or
that person has over themselves. Okay, Clay, just just a
few I took notes all this one. People who give
birth also known as women, menstruating person also known as
(16:44):
a woman, but they will not use that term because,
as you know, leftist orthodoxy is now that women can
have male genitalia and men can give birth. It's it's
mind blowing how broken the logic is for people like AOC.
And you can even hear her in her head thinking
(17:08):
about instead of just saying women, she's thinking menstruating, menstruating
person like you can't even say pregnant woman anymore. It's
got to be pregnant person for the aocs of the world,
birthing persons instead of moms. I mean, this is all chaotic,
and where it leads is reasonable people across the country
(17:32):
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life experience. And when you don't connect with people's life experience,
you know what happens in elections. You get your ass kicked.
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We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. A
couple different things that are worth hitting here. Axios reported
early this morning that Joe Mansion has let the White
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House know that he is not going to support the
three point five trillion anywhere near the three point five trillion,
that in fact, he may not support a budget over
one trillion or one and a half trillion, meaning basically
the Biden domestic agenda, the Bernie budget would be dead. Buck.
Do you believe him when he says this? Do you
(19:48):
think that the three point five trillion, which we all
know actually if you talk to senators, and by the way,
I think we're talking to rand Paul tomorrow, so we'll
ask him what he thinks about this. Do you believe
Joe Mansion when he says, I'm not going to support
anywhere near this three point five trillion, it's more like
a trillion or a trillion and a half. I do.
And I think there's a little bit of a Mott
(20:08):
and Bailey argument going on here where, but with a
spending twist right where three point five trillion dollars of
spending is just blowout. I mean, remember the Obama stimulus package,
not harp, which people always can flight, but the stimulus
package was about a trillion dollars that led to the
(20:30):
Tea party that was yes, And that wasn't that long
ago where people were saying, hold on a second, you're
just gonna spend another trillion dollars. What's this going to
do for future generations? What's this going to do to
the value of our of our currency and to long
term economic trends that affect all of us in our
day to day lives. Three point five trillion play on
top of the trillions that were spent in COVID, emergency
(20:54):
and relief funds and all the other things. You're paying
people to stay home and paying businesses. Remember peppan so
much money. So this is just a long way of saying, yeah,
I think he's probably willing to stand in the way
of the three point five trillion and go along with
one trillion. It's still a trillion dollars of spending, right.
I mean, that just goes to show you where we
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are now as a country. And I think until inflation
becomes so obvious and so painful that no one can
deny the impact that's having on their data. I mean
right now, I mean food. Just going to a restaurant
these days, you can see things are expensive in ways
that they can't hide. They try gas right, So you know,
home prices have been very very interesting, and certainly in
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some parts of the country recently very fast rise. There
was a huge surgeon lumber material where I think it
went up three hundred lumber when I went up about
three hundred percent. It's come back down since then a bit.
But point here being clay, Okay, yeah, like how much
how excited can we get about reason and sanity winning
the day when Joe Mansion as the fiftieth vote saying, Hey,
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I'm going to protect us from the debt bomb by
saying it's a trillion dollars of extra spending on top
of the trillions we already spend year and a year out,
not three and a half. Yeah, here's the opening sentence.
By the way of the Axios report, Senator Joe Mansion
has privately warned the White House and congressional leaders that
he has specific policy concerns with President Biden's three point
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five trillion social spending dream, and he'll support as little
as one trillion of it at most he's open to
supporting one and a half trillion, Sources familiar with the
discussion say, and some people out there may be saying, well,
why do you care about Joe Mansion West Virginia Senator.
Remember they're trying to pass this through budget reconciliation, which
means they have to get every Democratic vote and Kamala
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Harris would have to break the tie. So if you
have one senator who is saying I'm not in support
of this, then it all goes up in smoke. And
remember we've already had Kristen Cinema come out basically and
say that she doesn't support it either. The Democrats don't
have the votes, at least publicly based on Cinema and Mansion,
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based on what they're saying, and then whether or not
you believe them, that's the next question, right And well,
as we all know, there's gonna be a lot of
horse trading behind the scenes, a lot of pressure brought
to bear. Democrats have a whole lot of ways to
induce people, to reward people, uh and and to pressure them.
Just as an aside, Clay, our favorite former governor of
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New York now the Attorney General, Leticia James looking into
the five million dollar book deal he got. You and
I are both in the media business. You don't get
five million dollar book deals. I mean, that's that's like
former president who's a Democrat, memoir level money. But there's
a lot of ways, And I'm just bringing that up
because there's a lot of ways that they can try
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to either turn the screws or offer you some sweeteners
to get you to go their way. But for Mansion,
you know, he's he's in that special position where he
could play spoiler on the He's in some ways the
most powerful senator in America right now. He might be
the most powerful politician in America right now, and you
consider what Joe Biden's actually got. I want to play
this clip for you too, Buck. I haven't even heard
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this yet. I've seen the transcript on it. Stephen A.
Smith is the highest paid person at ESPN, making twelve
million a year. Twelve million a year at ESPN, Stephen A.
Smith makes more money at ESPN than any football, basketball
or coach in America. Kind of put into context, I mean,
that's a that's a big salary. You talk about earlier
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how politics is downstream from culture, which I think is
is well. Said Stephen A. Smith yesterday on ESPN, argued
that every sports league in America should mandate every player
have the vaccine. Listen to this. This is the thing
that drives me nuts. And that's why I say, I'm
so done with people take it. I'm talking about the
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athletes because the NFL, the NBA's a private industry. Yeah,
we must have to play. You'll get title to play.
I mean, I think it's shameful when athletes talk about, oh,
it's a private matter. It is not a private matter,
because it affects anybody a standing right now, not living
a private You're not living a private luck. That's ridiculous.
But this is the thing that broughts you crazy. And
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I got to say this. You're gonna laugh when I
say this, Marcus, because you know I'm gonna point with this.
If I hit one more person money, if I hit
one more person, Marcus, talk to me about we're sitting
to X that I might slap it with my fault.
I can't take it. It's the biggest damn lie imaginable.
They're full of it. And so I'm telling you right now,
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the NFL, I'm glad the NFL has made it inconvenient
for unvaccinated people. I'm glad the NFL and the NBA.
I'm sorry he has stepped it up. If it were me,
they wouldn't even be allowed to play clay. So I
just want to be clear, it's a private matter when
they're gonna force you to get a shot, including people
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who've already had COVID, and they won't make any exceptions
for natural immunity, because you know, that's science that we're
forced to forget for no apparent good reason. But was
it a private matter if teams or the league wanted
to tell people not to kneel. I have a feeling
then all of a sudden, mister Stephen A. Smith has
a very different view of the private sector and work.
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It's a great point. And look, there have been there's
been so much pressure put on players to try to
force them to get the vaccine that I think they're
a little bit canary in the coal mines here because
so many Americans out there listening to us right now
are getting pressured to get this vaccine who, maybe like
(26:36):
you and me, buck have already had COVID. It's like,
we can't even discuss that fact, and when you have
the highest paid ESPN employee screaming at people you talked
about how it can influence the league. The NFL's watching
some of that stuff, the NBA's watching some of that stuff.
When they've got the media arguing that they should have
vaccine mandates, it makes vaccine mandates more likely. But here's
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where it's blowing up, Buck. A lot of these athletes
are still testing positive because the vaccine doesn't stop you
from getting COVID, and the athletes are already under minimal risk.
None of them have had serious health conditions. And so
the fact that you're trying to lecture us and say
that all athletes should be mandated, you know that they
never mandated the flu shot. They should be testing less
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in at professional athletics, in my mind than they are
if you're six, stay home. But the actual risk of
these athletes is zero. Do you remember when they used
to talk about how forty percent of cases that was
the number that was thrown around and I'm going back now,
really I think over a year, Yeah, forty percent of
cases were asymptomatic. It's so you don't really hear very
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much about this anymore, do you. You know you don't
hear about the forty percent of cases that are asymptomatic.
You also to our conversation yesterday about about how this ends.
How is it possible that we have a three hundred
percent increase in COVID cases right now year over year
at this point in time when they're when we have
two hundred million people vaccinated in America. Great question, and
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no vaccines a year ago. We all know, we can
all agree there were no vaccines twelve months ago. It's
two hundred million vaccines. We have more cases now. I've
seen some people try things like it's because they got
rid of mask man dates. No, no, no, that's it's cute,
but it's sad at the same time, and people try
to cling to their their little their little fouci cloth um.
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But there's there's no effort Clay to even address some
of this or try to explain it in a intelligent fashion.
You're right, I mean the fact that we have doubled hospitalizations,
the fact that cases have skyrocketed over last year. When
Joe Biden was lecturing the White House on how poor
of a job they've done responding to COVID, well, he's
been in office almost a year now and he's doing
(28:45):
a worse job. It's amazing. Well, we got a lot
of folks that want to weigh in on this and
other things. To eight hundred two two two eight two.
We can come back and get into that and and
close it out with your thoughts from all across the country.
All this it's man. Yeah, be at twelve million dollars
a year, that's a good twelve millieah yearbuck. That's good market.
You just have to learn something about the professional sports
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talking about tomorrow. I think we got Senator rand Paul mix.
I'm really bad. No, I'm sorry, No, I'm I just
did that again. Is it Friday? Sometimes I get ahead
of us. Nope, Nope, nope, nope, next week, next week. Sorry,
everybody is well show at some point and then and
then and then our our team here claim is like no, no, no, no,
not yet done yet because I get excited where we
talk about it in our editorial meetings. But we will
(31:18):
have the Senator at some point. We could say that
he'll be on pretty soon and claim I have plenty
of talk to you all about tomorrow. You've got thoughts
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amazing job every day and be here on the EIB.
Jeff Conquered North Carolina, not to be confused with Conquered
New Hampshire. Jeff, what's up. Yeah, I'm kind of a valid,
valid reason to support my question. But my question is
who owns the Wuhan Labs. Well, the Chinese Communist Party,
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the Chinese People's Liberation Army SLASH, probably some private investors too,
maybe at some level. I don't know, but that's a
that's an interesting question. I felt the same way because
of this point. But I used to work for a
company that sent me to China through the years of
two thousand and two thousand and eight, now working in
(32:20):
nan Chou, which was more the industrial side, and it
also visited Shanghai. I never did anything touristy, but I
know to get around over there you had to have
a driver and a translator when I was going, because
everything everything is in Chinese. I did recognize the industrial
section some United States businesses or US businesses that had
(32:41):
their logo on some of the entrance sides along with Chinese.
But every time you see the Wuhan Lab shown on
the news, the buildings labeled in English the Wuhan Institute
of Virology, I've seen that too. It's interesting. Yes, I mean,
it's interesting point. I mean, look, the reports that are
out there are that we gave millions of dollars for
(33:05):
gain of function research. I don't know if you saw
bucks some of the videos that Fox News has been
running of alleged bats from inside of some of these labs.
That does not seem to be very restrained in terms
of like there are people with the bats crawling all
over them from inside of these Chinese labs. And again,
(33:26):
we talked a lot about this, but Fauci, to me,
should have to resign, and I think he should face
severe criminal investigation over his testimony and from lying to
Congress is either a crime or it's not. But as
we know, especially in those highly politicized incidents or cases,
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there are two standards of justice, one for Democrats, one
for Republicans. Time and again, I mean that's that was
really the whole Muller probe was relying on the grinding
gear years of bureaucracy to get people on process crimes.
I mean, Democrats don't don't go to prison. Process crimes
come on. And also, I mean, to be fair, perjury
is a notoriously difficult charge to prove because you're not
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only having to prove that something is false, you're having
to prove that someone knew it was false and was
intending to speak in a way that was a falsehood.
And if you listen to the way that Fauci has
been talking, even when he got into it with Rand
Paul and that viral clip their most recent head to head,
he was clearly parroting what lawyers had told him in
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trying to make a subtle distinction regarding what gain a
function was. That was clearly his intempt. I mean, when
I heard it, it sounded Bill Clintonian to me when
he said that depends on what the meaning of the
word is, is right. I mean, it's very legalistic, driving
down almost that he's trying to protect himself in that
(34:57):
respect because he knows that, as most people would hear it,
he has been lying. I think Faucci knows that. I
think Faucci knows a lot of things that he won't
say out loud, a lot of things you want to
talk about it fancy cocktail parties in in Potomac and
in Georgetown. But I'm telling you this much, I'm not
letting it go. Man. I've been I've been on Faucci's
(35:20):
trail from the very beginning. He is my tiny white whale,
and I am not letting this go man, this guy
or fellow a hum as well. I mean, that's the
ironic thing. I'm really just I'm really just bitter that
he goes for more than I do for my high
school every year lunch with Fluch. More did he go
compared to you? I don't know. I we don't need
to get into number. It was it was, it was more.
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We don't need to get into numbers though. You know.
It's not a this is not a scoreboard, big buddy.
It's for charity. The only thing better would be if
they just put paired you with Fauci like they gave
you away, like your co host Clay Travis is convincing
Americans at the football stadiums to go without them. We're
(36:05):
gonna be a woffee all over me because of what
you do so and me too. He knows that I
can't stand him, So there's that. I'm sorry. I got
your play schedule, Birmingham. You're gonna go to Ole Miss Alabama.
I'm excited. That's right. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be
part of the Unmasked masses. Oh, miss Alabama, It's gonna
be amazing. We've got a lot to talk to you
about tomorrow already. In mind, Clay and I never get
(36:27):
through everything, so be sure to join us here and
stay for as long as you can. Tomorrow. It's gonna
be a fabulous Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. So Clay
a couple of seconds, what do you guys, I'm still
fired up about this Roberty Lee statue coming down. I
gotta remember to bring it up tomorrow. We'll do it.
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