September 8, 2021 • 37 mins
Governor Ron DeSantis throws Fauci's words back in his face. Why is Fauci still on TV every day, what has he gotten right?! He's a Dem advocate in a lab coat. AOC isn't a scientist, so she shouldn't talk about climate. What she is good at is getting attention. Greg Gutfeld is King of Late Night comedy as his Fox News Channel show beats liberal political commentators Colbert, Kimmel, Fallon. Traditional late night TV comedy is dead, destroyed by left-wing righteousness.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Show Wednesday edition of the program. The Battle of our
era right now is over. How do we get back
to normalcy in a COVID era despite the fact that
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right now, as we just finished the labor day, we
have twice as many people hospitalized as we did last
Labor Day. You'll recall that Joe Biden ran his entire
campaign predicated on the idea that he was going to
fix COVID and get us back to quote normalcy. That
has not happened. And what's become interesting is two of
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the most i would say stellar advocates battlers if you will,
over how exactly we are going to reconcile COVID in
this country have turned into Florida Governor Ron De Santis
and of course the tinpot dictator, tyrant doctor Fauci, And
they went head to head talking about the data in
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a way frankly that usually doesn't get talked about. Listen
to Rhnda Scantis talk about the situation in Florida and
also way out that herd immunity has not occurred as
a result of the vaccine. Listen to this. If you're
going to force vaccine mandates on people, just understand that
what the data is showing us about the vaccine. The
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data is showing us you're much less likely to be
hospitalized or die if you're vaccinated. That is true, and
I think you see it in the statistics. However, the
vaccinations have not created herd immunity. And so if the
idea is that having herd immunity, you force everyone to
do this and that will create herd immunity, that has
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not happened. It's still spreading people. Who I mean, obviously
in Florida we're going down now, which is great, but
that's not what the issue is it creating the herd immunity.
Fauci also said, if fifty percent were vaccinated, you would
not see any surges anymore. Well, that isn't true. So
that is a strong case from Ron de Santis there
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again talking about data which is not allowed most places.
Of course, the tin pot petty dictator tyrant Fauci was
not happy with the fact that his own words were
thrown in his face about if we had fifty percent
of people vaccinated and by the way, seventy five percent
of people eighteen and up have now had at least
one part of the vaccination. Faucci had to fire back
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at de Santis, Well, that's not true at all. I mean,
obviously it's important for you as an individual for your
own personal protection, safety and health. But when you have
a virus that's circulating in the community and you are
not vaccinated, you a part of the problem because you're
allowing yourself to be a vehicle for the virus to
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be spreading to someone else. So it isn't as if
it stops with you. If that would the case, then
it would be only about you, But it doesn't. You
can get infected even if you get no symptoms or
minimally symptomatic, and then pass it on to someone who
in fact might be very vulnerable, an elderly person, a
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person with an underlying disease. So when you're dealing with
an outbreak of an infectious disease, it isn't only about you.
There's a societal responsibility that we all have. Buck sex.
Then your reaction to DeSantis versus Fauci, why is Fauci
on TV stale every five minutes? We have a massive
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federal health bureaucracy. There he's at NAIAD, right, but under
the umbrella of the National Institutes of Health and i AGE.
There's also the CDC. We talk more about the CDC,
but somehow Fauci is still the face of all of this.
Fauci is the face of all the failed policies. This
star has not actually worked the way we were told
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it would over and over. Now they could argue that
in some aspects it's had some efficacy. Depends on what
mitigation measure we're talking about here. But you know, Clay,
our friend, I know you had him on the show
on Monday and Labor Day. Alex Barrinson put out a
great little quick cheat sheet because we often say here,
how many times is Fauci gonna be wrong before people
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say enough is enough? How many times do we have
to see his predictions being completely false? And Alex pulled
together for it is substack the following. I mean, here's
Faucci twenty twenty Bloomberg. Fauci says end a pandemic is
in sight thanks to vaccines. That was in November of
last year, right right after the election, Remember Buck, when
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they miraculously could announce that the vaccines were ready like
literally like two days after the weekend of the election, right,
I mean, it's crazy. Faucci predicts us could see signs
of herd immunity by late March or early April. That
was December fifteenth, twenty twenty. In NPR are Fouci gives
sunny or outlook for end of pandemic. Us will see big,
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big difference by summer or early fall of twenty twenty. Clay,
we're seeing a big difference, as we know, three hundred
percent rise in cases year over year. And then finally
as of August twenty fifth, and again hat tip to
our friend Berenson for all this on a sub stack.
Doctor Fauci says no end to COVID pandemic before spring
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twenty twenty two at the earliest. This little lab coat
tyrant is a jackass. This guy says, every six months
or so, it's gonna be all over. Just listen, and
then we wait six months or three months, whatever the
timeline is he gives and he's wrong, and he's like,
just give it six more months. It never ends. As
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long as this guy is still given credibility, not just
by the Democrat corporate media, but by millions of Americans.
I look at people now, I think, how is it
possible that any person of sound judgment and rationality could
listen to this little totalitarian smurf on the television and
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think that they they should pay attention to him at
this point? It's such a great question, Buck, and I
think about that a lot too. I think one answer
is there's a huge percentage of the population that wants
to have certainty and they want to turn their brain
off and listen to people who are doctors. Right. And
I don't know, you've probably heard it a ton. Every
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now and then I dive into mensions and see what
people are saying when I'm sharing things, and one of
the primary things I get is are you a doctor? No,
I'm not a doctor, but if I had wanted to
be a doctor, I would be a doctor, right. I mean,
this is and I think this is an interesting response.
I'm curious if you've thought about it a lot too, Buck,
You're smart enough to have been a doctor if you
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wanted to be a doctor. I'm smart enough to have
been a doctor if I wanted to be a doctor.
This idea that only doctors are able to look at
data and analyze it and make decisions that are smart
flies in the face of all American public policy, because
most governors and senators and congressmen are not doctors. But
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we elect people and we listen to people based on
buck whether or not we trust their judgment and their
ability to analyze facts. And so this idea that you
should have to be a doctor to look at COVID rates,
I mean, Ron de Santis is not a doctor. His analysis,
by the way, as a Harvard lawgrad, could have certainly
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been a doctor if he had wanted to be a doctor,
is smart enough to have been a doctor. But he's
smart enough to look at data. You and I are
smart enough to look at data. And a lot of
people out there aren't willing to look at data. They
want to be led, their comfortable being cheap, and that's
why people are still listening to Fauci. You have this
credentialed class in the country in particular, I mean you're
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talking about a lot of mds, and these are the
blue check and that you see who make noise and
go on MSNBC and post photos like the one that
I sent you of the mom doctor with her three
kids with masks and face shields on as if face
shields are meant to prevent, like they use them in
some capacities in a medical setting, the actual splatter it
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doesn't do anything about aerosolis virus wearing a face shield.
It's like if you were a World War One infantrymen
and you put on a face shield to protect you
from mustard gas, you were going to have a very
bad day. It doesn't do anything. They must know this
at some level, but they believe that by continuing to
adhere to this, they not only give themselves meaning and
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think that they're more secure Clay, they're also tying themselves
to the rest of the smart people. It's not just
virtue signaling. There's an intelligence signaling that they think goes
on here. All the really, I mean, you're mentioning doctors
and how oh, you're not a doctor. All the super
smart people out there believe Fauci, even though of course
that's not true. There are doctors, epidemiologists that we've talked
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to it. We've got on the show from Stanford, from Cambridge,
from all over the country who will say that this
is crap and they're never going to admit Clay no
matter what the data actually says you keep saying, look
at the data that there's a very real chance that
almost everything that the Fauciites have told us to do
did nothing of benefit and was massively counterproductive, all cosmetic theory.
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I mean, I think that's what. Like you listed all
the things that Fauci has gotten wrong. Here's a good
question for people out there, what's he gotten right? Like,
what has Fauci beyond a shadow of a doubt looking
at the data gotten right. I'm not sure buck that
he's gotten a single thing right now. And I'm giving
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him credit for being adjusting his opinions constantly because originally,
remember he was like, oh, masks don't work, it makes
no sense to go get masks. He usually like this
six foot rule is total crap. Like everything that Fauci
has advocated is cosmetic theater, and it is totally non
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non effective, ineffective, has had zero impact. I think I
think Faucci has gotten got one thing very right, unfortunately,
and that is making it very clear to everybody in
the Democrat Party. And he's effectively a Democrat operative in
a lab code and believes in authoritarian bureaucratic control of
the American people. I think he played the politics right.
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You know, this is a guy who was somehow in
the Trump administration in charge of the awful Trump response
they say, right, and we know, of course it's not true,
but managed to not only keep it really elevate his
job in the next administration. Well, well, why is that
the case? How does that make you know? Whatever happened
to Deborah Burkes remember her? Well, she took a big
party at home and she told all of us not
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to see our relatives over Thanksgiving. That was kind of
a bad move, and then she just pieced out though.
But I do think it's an interest in question, Buck,
And I don't know that we'll ever get the actual data.
If we had done absolutely nothing at all, if we
had just kept schools open, if everybody had kept working,
if we had changed zero, like, if we really hadn't
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done anything, would we be in a better place right now?
Because if herd immunity is the way out, Buck, and
that's really what DeSantis was arguing, And if we aren't
going to get herd immunity through vaccination, which I think
the data reflects that we're really not, ultimately everybody's going
to have to get this or enough people are going
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to have to get this that it's not spreading wide,
get actual herd immunity, which is real. We're trying to
induce essentially an artificial herdamentary through the vaccination process, not
through the actual contact. I mean, the MMRNA vaccine works
by you know, the spike protein. And this is a
level of science that's you know, is legitimately not something
that the that ever that folks like me understand, but
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you do know that it's different than the T cell
immunity you get from your immune system actually dealing with
the virus. But Clay, to the point about what would
happen if we had basically done nothing, You've done something
close to nothing. Fun fact, I'm putting Clay on the spot,
but I think it didn't get this one right. How
many people died yesterday in Sweden from COVID? Clay, I
think it's almost zero one. Yeah, so there you. I mean,
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I've looked at their death chart. They basically said we're
gonna go for her immunity and COVID doesn't exist now
in Sweden ten million people, folks, ten million people a
year ago, an experiment in death. The Swedes aren't listening
to the science Fauci is, I'm very very concerned, you know,
the whole thing. One person in the whole country. And
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by the way, it's not an anomaly. Zero the day
be four zero. I'm looking at the numbers right now.
Zero the day be four one zero. They're losing more
people to death by be staying right now in Sweden
most likely than they are from COVID. And now the
Swedish people are in a lot better ape so they
don't have as many fat people as we do, which
I know you're not supposed to be able to talk
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about because you know, it's horribly upsetting to mension fat people.
Now it's fat chaming whatever else. But that's I mean,
we would be done with this if we had just
pieced out and continued to live our lives instead of
trying to shut everything down and allowing people like Fauci
to continue to have power. I also want to get
his clay focused in on in a few minutes, how
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they're starting to move. You could tell the mobilization and
the authoritarianism of COVID is now going to be transferred
into other Democrat policy priorities, like of course, climate change,
which we've been saying all along that they've gotten the notes,
apparently the Biden folks. We can get into that in
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I making sense of all the madness today, including AOC
championing menstruating person's rights. This is the term now you're
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supposed to use that won't offend people. Let's just refer
to a woman's cycle all the time without referring to
a woman, and that's this is a member of Congress, folks.
Plus Biden is pushing the climate change lunacy fifty percent
roughly solar energy, solar energy for the US by twenty fifty.
They're saying, we got four Taliban members swapped out for
bo Bergdahl who are now by the Obama Administration't we
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all remember that now running essentially the Afghan governor. They're
like the cabinet and you got the Robert E. Lee statue,
taking down a historic statue. Pelosi is calling Afghanistan a
historic and remarkable withdrawal. So we got oh and mansion
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I am excited to see what's gonna happen with ye.
So we're gonna talk about that just a little bit.
That's all coming your way. But I've mentioned you before
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the break that climate change is the place the Democrats
want to go next. They're not going to get off
the total control of pandemic fouciism until they can transfer
this mass mobilization and authoritarianism to climate change, because then
it's existential. They control every aspect of your life. They're
just telling us is what they want to do. Sixteen.
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If our entire world, in our entire society is going
to shift because of climate change, it's a matter of
how it's going to shift. So basically, if we do
nothing to address climate change, we are going to see
the continued destruction of our supply chains. We are going
to see our crops not be able to grow in
the same way we will see our infrastructure begin to
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crumble away. We will see us not we will see,
you know, the continuation cliberation of other future pandemics as well.
And so that is how our life could change if
we do nothing, Can we get all the trolls online
to just go AOC is not a scientist, because that's
how could it be any dumber than what she just said?
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I just, um, I look, I understand that there's a
lot of politicians who are just not Look, here's what
AOC is good at. She's good at getting attention, which
is a big part of being a politician. Uh, she
is good at at the blue check brigade like just
kind of swarming around her because she says things, and
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a want of congress people don't really say things. But
I've never heard her speak and thought, this is who
should be representing. How old is AOC, like thirty six,
thirty seven something like, I don't even think young old,
younger than that. Like, I've never thought AOC should be
the spokesperson of the millennial generation. And I don't think
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she advocates for anything that she advocates in a way
that is remotely helpful to what she advocates for thirty one.
You get the sense by the way that Nancy Pelosi
as much as she might dislike Mitch McConnell, and as
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Comedy has been destroyed completely and utterly by left wing righteousness.
Comedians are terrified to make jokes. Used to be you'd
flip on David Letterman, Johnny Carson, Jay Leno, and whatever
your political leanings might be. President got made fun of.
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Famous political leaders got made fun of in the monologue,
and it was almost impossible to know what the overall
political leanings of the comedian might be because they tried
to be equal opportunity attackers. Now, comedy is basically dead
in late night television, although we should mention even though
it doesn't get a lot of attention. Greg Guttfeld, You've
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been going on his show for a long time, Buck,
Greg Gutfeld dunks all over Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel over,
who's the other guy, Jimmy Fallon? Like they absolutely destroy
Now Greg Gutfeld does Fox News late night programs. They
inherited those other can they inherited massive platforms and audiences
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that were built in Yeah, Fox is obviously a very
large platform for news. It's there's not an inherited audience
of a couple million people every night at eleven PM
to watch comedy, which which Greg, to his absolute credit,
has built and to the to Fox's credit, has allowed
that kind of a show, which honestly we should have.
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There should be more shows like that, right, There should
be more shows that try to be culturally relevant as
well as news relevant from a not even just a
concern just a rite of center or centrist perspective would
be nice, or just a logical perspective. But it is
interesting that that show with Greg Gutfeld has begun to dominate.
And here's my thesis, and I'm curious before we play
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this clip from Jimmy Kimmel last night, I'm curious what
you think in general about this thesis book. I believe
that what happened in late night television is Stephen Colbert
went all in on attacking Donald Trump like crazy, and
his show on CBS went from last place to first
place because there were people who wanted to tune in
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to a Trump is Awful comedic focused broadcast. Colbert had
a lot of success, and then Jimmy Kimmel and h
and Jimmy Fallon chased Colbert to the point where honestly
the smart play probably would have been to go in
the opposite direction of Colbert. But because Hollywood is so
left wing and left leaning, you can't get guests that
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are promoting their movies or or or are gonna come
on your your television broadcast period if you go too
far centrist or right wing. And so they all chased
each other down the left wing rabbit hole and basically
assured each other of mutual destruction. So I remember the
originator in a sense of this model, the guy who
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first got it right big time. And I'm sure he
used to see a show a lot, and I certainly
did back when I was in college. Was John Stewart
with the Daily Show, and that was going back to
the Bush administration. And what that was was a place
where because because liberals, I mean, you see this, they
love the Madhouse Show during Russia collusion, even though it
was all I wasn't true, that's what they wanted to see.
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They prefer even more just the snarky, snide attack of
someone pretending to be a comedian that's really doing political
commentary with jokes, because one they just want to see
pies thrown at the people they disagree with. You know,
those red state, anti vaxx, Trump voting maga hat people.
But also beyond that, they don't want to be encumbered
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by facts, logic, reason, or decency. They just want to
see their enemies mocked and humiliated. The left is obsessed
with this. They also can tolerate no humiliation of their idols,
their ideas. I mean the fact that we haven't seen
more comedy clay about people walking around with gas masks
or three masks on, or people that think it's to
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or hazmat suits, or it's normal to wear a mask
driving alone in their car. I mean, this is ripe
for comedy. I mean, these are things that is radely
ripe and ridicule, and yet it doesn't happen because we
all know that the one thing the Left cannot abide
is the ridicule of its rituals and its ideas, because
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then the whole thing starts to fall apart. It's cultural
resonance that makes it all so powerful. It's the cool
kids watch Colbert and laugh at his stupid anti Trump jokes,
and so everybody else does it at the same time.
But but I think that really what you're seeing is
actually just a form of propaganda because they're doing political
commentary on those shows, Colbert and Kim Olan whatever. But
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it's political commentary for stupid people because they don't actually
with the moment they get challenged it. Oh, I'm just
a comedian, I'm just making jokes. Well no, actually, you're
making political arguments with jokes placed around it so that
you're immune and you can just take snide, cheap shots
at the other side. Are you with me? Growing up?
If you watch the Leno, I was a Letterman guy.
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I don't remember having any sense for what their political
beliefs were. I never thought that Letterman was funny one
second of one day in my entire life. I didn't
watch him that much. I did watch Leno sometimes, so
I did think it was funny. So this is a
this is ane of these areas where I see here
I goo clay for a guy I agree with on
so many things. Letterman was a mean guy. I think
he was a funny guy. I loved the Letterman. I
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would watch Letterman every night. I like the way he
deconstructed late night television. We could probably have a huge
debate about this, but the bigger picture here is would
you agree with me as a Leno guy that you
really didn't get the sense that you knew what Jay
Leno or David Letterman thought politic Yes, he made jokes.
He made jokes that were meant for the entire studio
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audience and everyone watching at home. You could have been
a Bush voter and in the Leno years laugh at
jokes about Bush and it wasn't uncomfortable because it came
from a place of comedy, not a place of derision.
And what's happened now is the left, because of cancel
culture one, has weaponized the culture against the mockery of
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things that they hold sacred, but also don't really have
no interest in just the art of making people laugh
so much as they want to be propagandists for their
political side, and they want to they want to humiliate
their targets. They're not trying to make everybody laugh. And
it's interesting in that respect. I'll play let's play this
clip when we come back, because it is I think
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a lot of you out there listening to us now
have sort of a visceral reaction when I say Letterman
or Leno, whether you like them or not, or certainly
if you go back to Johnny Carson, they were equal
opportunity comedian throwing punches and jabs in every direction, such
that you really never had a sense for exactly what
they believe themselves, almost in a Walter Cronkite sense for
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lack of a better way. But that's a whole other thing. Yeah,
but back in the day, you didn't really know. I mean, look,
I think the assumption has to be that if you
live in Hollywood or you live in New York and
your entertainment, you're probably a left leaning person, unless you
are totally silent, in which case I think that you
might not be. But I do think that the question
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of how did this pivot occur? And is there a
way out of it? And honestly, in the process, are
comedians cutting their own throats? Because if you only allow
humor in one direction, ultimately it's going to be a
failed humor. I mean, satire is usually directed at those
who are in power, and that's what it's supposed to do.
And this is why political cartoons, for example, throughout our
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history have been so powerful because they expose truths that
also have a cultural sailing right. They show things in
a way they visualize what we know to be true,
and as often something you're not supposed to say, or
those in power don't want you to feel comfortable saying.
What's happened now is particularly when you're talking about the gatekeepers,
gatekeepers of our culture. They determine what jokes are allowed
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and are not allowed, and they certainly don't want them
being directed at the people who are in power. And
that just goes to right now, Clay, what is there
to make fun of? If you're Stephen Colbert, if you're
these other I don't even I haven't seen their shows
in a long time. I see clips them occasionally. What
is there to make You can make fun of the
Biden administration, You're not going to make fun of the
fact that there's a scenile buffoon who is actually president
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of the United States because that's your team. So all
the actual comedy that people might be making is always
encumbered by this subservience to political belief. And that's why, yeah,
comedy is basically dead. That plus everything that's actually funny.
Now you can't say out loud in a public forum
without possibly losing your job, being kicked out of your housing.
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck. We're
gonna have updates for all of you all. In the
situation in Afghanistan, some Democrats are saying all US citizens
are out. Chuck Schumer said that that's interesting because it's
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not true. But they're already furiously rewriting the history of this.
They're talking about a Biden doctrine, and we're learning more
about the Taliban looks like the old Taliban in a
lot of ways, including some of the leadership. We'll get
into this coming up the top of the next hour.
Clay had mentioned that there was a there's a dearth
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of humor from people that have the supposed comedian positions
on TV. They're really political commentators who occasionally make jokes.
Jimmy Kimmel, who I mean, He's gone after people on
the right in ways that I thought were just I'm
not even talking about to make jokes about, but in
a more personal way. It seems kind of nasty. Here
he is talking about this is his version of comedy play.
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Doctor Fouchi said that if hospitals get any more over crowded.
They're gonna have to make some very tough choices about
who gets an ICU. But that choice doesn't seem so
tough to me. Vaccinated person having a heart attack, Yes,
come right on him, we'll take care of you. Unvaccinated
guy who gobbled horse coup rest in peace, wheezy. We've
still got a lot of pandemwitz out there. People are
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still taking this iver mechton. You know, the poison control
centers have seen as this spike in calls from people
taking this livestock medicine to fight the coronavirus. But they
will take the vaccine. Apparently he's paid millions and millions
of dollars by what is a disney to be a
moron and a liar, because that's what that sound clip
says to me. First of all, the horse Anyone who
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says it's a horse drug is an idiot who's being dishonest.
It's not even possible to be that stupid but claim,
and this is what we're up against. Yeah, look, I
think the whole hort and we need to play later
in the show the Joe Rogan clip. Because you took
ivermectin it was prescribed to you when you had COVID. Yes,
by by a highly regarded infectious disease specialist of forty
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years almost of practice in New York City. Yes, and
it's not the same doctor. But Joe Rogan I'm sure
also had ivermectin prescribed to him by a doctor. It
has been prescribed to humans for decades as a as
a drug, right, It also probably millions of lives o
course of many years. Yeah. So so this is that clip,
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to me, is emblematic of in many ways the failure
of comedy because it's not a joke that would have
been made I don't believe by David Letterman or Jay Lenno.
And look, I know Jimmy because I do a show
with his cousin Sal Jimmy, and I I mean, he's
a good dude. I like him on an individual basis.
And he's good friends with Adam Carolla Buck, who has
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almost identical opinions to you and me in many different respects,
except Corolla is a lot funnier. And if you watch
The Man Show Back in the Day, which I bet
you watch some clips of back in the day when
because you're around saying The Man Show, which was Adam
Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel and which my buddy Sal wrote
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on is fabulously funny. And I think the distance between
late night television today and what The Man Show could
do represents a failure fundamentally of comedy, And to your
point earlier, if you are and I think it's a
big question, and I don't know the answer. You know,
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Gutfeld is having a lot of success by effectively being
the anti Colbert right. He's coming to things from a
right wing perspective, where Colbert comes at it from a
left wing perspective. Is there still a space in comedy
for a guy who is basically right down the middle
or a girl going after equal side humor. I don't
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know that there is, buck I wonder on some level
whether we have so And I'm making up a word here,
potentially nichified comedy. That the only way you can win
in society, And I wonder about this and worry about
this a little bit, is if you are trying to
appeal to a targeted demo instead of trying to appeal
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to the mass. Well, this is also what happens when
you have gatekeepers, those who control platforms, corporations openly going woke,
and now what you have is you can call it
the Balkanization of the media. It certainly happened in news
and commentary. When I got into this ten years ago.
Clay MSNBC would say, Buck, we want to have you
(33:52):
debate jihadism or something with so and so, and we
don't actually get to fight it out on TV. CNN
would have people say, how could you ever work at
CNN because they let me go on and crush and
have debates and it was fun. You could actually do that.
Now they would cheat and they would talk over you,
and you know, there's a lot of like it was
a hostile environment. But Alisa used to happen. Now no
one really does this anymore. It doesn't exist and everyone
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just wants, you know, they want what they expect from
a host to be said night in and night out.
And I mean, Clay, you know, I understand that. You know,
the Jimmy Kimmel, maybe he's a nice guy person to person,
but the stuff that he's saying, given what we're going
through as a country and the real threats we face,
I mean, it's reckless. Man. It's bad. It's not it's
not cool at all to pretend that people are that
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people shouldn't go. He says that he makes that as
a joke. Other people are going to say, yeah, you
know what, You're right, unvaccinated people shouldn't get into the ICU.
I mean, that's a what's you right now? What's crazy
is at least he's a comedian saying that they're a
real doctor saying that that I basically, hey, I'm not
going to treat you if if you are not vaccinated.
And to me again, all of this begs the question
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is has the left, the wing in many ways killed comedy?
Have they destroyed all? I think there's I think the mockery.
I think we gotta be honest. I think the mockery
comes in advance of the policy. A lot of the time,
it's it's, oh, those stupid Trumpers won't do this, or
those Trumpers won't do that, and they make jokes about it,
and then all of a sudden it's Pelosi and Schumer
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on the floor of Congress who are advocating where the
bidenstration just saying this needs to happen. And enough people
have bought into the lies that the mockery are built
on that they go, yeah, you know what, I guess
we do have to do. It's not it's not funny anymore, Clay, Right,
that's what they'd say. It's reality. Now we have to
make them do this. And I think this is also
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a function of Twitter, right, because Twitter is so far
left wing, yet it is for media people cat nip right.
Even if you're a even if you're a middle of
the road or right wing person, you still understand that
that is where stories come and where debates take play.
And one percent of the country is really on Twitter.
There isn't it like three or something, And it's two
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percent of people are actually active tweeting on a day
to day basis one fifty's it's people that live in
our world that are relating. We gotta well, we'll come
back to this. We have so many calls people obviously
what people are fired up because this does matter to
the culture and to our politics, as Breitbart said, politics
downstream of culture. We'll come back there with some Afghanistan
updates for you. Just about the Biden administration. Is it
(36:23):
getting in the way of some of these evacuations and
what is Pelosi already saying about it? Clay, what else
is the top of mind for you hour two. Look,
I think you can keep making fun of me about
the budget, but mansion coming out and you get super
excited about that. You I'm pretty excited about the budget.
That Robert E. Lee statue coming down. I got some
big thoughts on that, and I think we still have
(36:43):
to dive into this COVID madness, even though we've talked
about it a great deal. Take your calls as well
coming up and a few stick around. You're listening to
Clay Travis said, Buck Sexton fund the EIB Network and
thanks were up and being Paul Dear. I think that's
(37:05):
good
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Show Wednesday edition of the program. The Battle of our
era right now is over. How do we get back
to normalcy in a COVID era despite the fact that
(00:24):
right now, as we just finished the labor day, we
have twice as many people hospitalized as we did last
Labor Day. You'll recall that Joe Biden ran his entire
campaign predicated on the idea that he was going to
fix COVID and get us back to quote normalcy. That
has not happened. And what's become interesting is two of
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the most i would say stellar advocates battlers if you will,
over how exactly we are going to reconcile COVID in
this country have turned into Florida Governor Ron De Santis
and of course the tinpot dictator, tyrant doctor Fauci, And
they went head to head talking about the data in
(01:07):
a way frankly that usually doesn't get talked about. Listen
to Rhnda Scantis talk about the situation in Florida and
also way out that herd immunity has not occurred as
a result of the vaccine. Listen to this. If you're
going to force vaccine mandates on people, just understand that
what the data is showing us about the vaccine. The
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data is showing us you're much less likely to be
hospitalized or die if you're vaccinated. That is true, and
I think you see it in the statistics. However, the
vaccinations have not created herd immunity. And so if the
idea is that having herd immunity, you force everyone to
do this and that will create herd immunity, that has
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not happened. It's still spreading people. Who I mean, obviously
in Florida we're going down now, which is great, but
that's not what the issue is it creating the herd immunity.
Fauci also said, if fifty percent were vaccinated, you would
not see any surges anymore. Well, that isn't true. So
that is a strong case from Ron de Santis there
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again talking about data which is not allowed most places.
Of course, the tin pot petty dictator tyrant Fauci was
not happy with the fact that his own words were
thrown in his face about if we had fifty percent
of people vaccinated and by the way, seventy five percent
of people eighteen and up have now had at least
one part of the vaccination. Faucci had to fire back
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at de Santis, Well, that's not true at all. I mean,
obviously it's important for you as an individual for your
own personal protection, safety and health. But when you have
a virus that's circulating in the community and you are
not vaccinated, you a part of the problem because you're
allowing yourself to be a vehicle for the virus to
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be spreading to someone else. So it isn't as if
it stops with you. If that would the case, then
it would be only about you, But it doesn't. You
can get infected even if you get no symptoms or
minimally symptomatic, and then pass it on to someone who
in fact might be very vulnerable, an elderly person, a
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person with an underlying disease. So when you're dealing with
an outbreak of an infectious disease, it isn't only about you.
There's a societal responsibility that we all have. Buck sex.
Then your reaction to DeSantis versus Fauci, why is Fauci
on TV stale every five minutes? We have a massive
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federal health bureaucracy. There he's at NAIAD, right, but under
the umbrella of the National Institutes of Health and i AGE.
There's also the CDC. We talk more about the CDC,
but somehow Fauci is still the face of all of this.
Fauci is the face of all the failed policies. This
star has not actually worked the way we were told
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it would over and over. Now they could argue that
in some aspects it's had some efficacy. Depends on what
mitigation measure we're talking about here. But you know, Clay,
our friend, I know you had him on the show
on Monday and Labor Day. Alex Barrinson put out a
great little quick cheat sheet because we often say here,
how many times is Fauci gonna be wrong before people
(04:19):
say enough is enough? How many times do we have
to see his predictions being completely false? And Alex pulled
together for it is substack the following. I mean, here's
Faucci twenty twenty Bloomberg. Fauci says end a pandemic is
in sight thanks to vaccines. That was in November of
last year, right right after the election, Remember Buck, when
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they miraculously could announce that the vaccines were ready like
literally like two days after the weekend of the election, right,
I mean, it's crazy. Faucci predicts us could see signs
of herd immunity by late March or early April. That
was December fifteenth, twenty twenty. In NPR are Fouci gives
sunny or outlook for end of pandemic. Us will see big,
(05:05):
big difference by summer or early fall of twenty twenty. Clay,
we're seeing a big difference, as we know, three hundred
percent rise in cases year over year. And then finally
as of August twenty fifth, and again hat tip to
our friend Berenson for all this on a sub stack.
Doctor Fauci says no end to COVID pandemic before spring
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twenty twenty two at the earliest. This little lab coat
tyrant is a jackass. This guy says, every six months
or so, it's gonna be all over. Just listen, and
then we wait six months or three months, whatever the
timeline is he gives and he's wrong, and he's like,
just give it six more months. It never ends. As
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long as this guy is still given credibility, not just
by the Democrat corporate media, but by millions of Americans.
I look at people now, I think, how is it
possible that any person of sound judgment and rationality could
listen to this little totalitarian smurf on the television and
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think that they they should pay attention to him at
this point? It's such a great question, Buck, and I
think about that a lot too. I think one answer
is there's a huge percentage of the population that wants
to have certainty and they want to turn their brain
off and listen to people who are doctors. Right. And
I don't know, you've probably heard it a ton. Every
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now and then I dive into mensions and see what
people are saying when I'm sharing things, and one of
the primary things I get is are you a doctor? No,
I'm not a doctor, but if I had wanted to
be a doctor, I would be a doctor, right. I mean,
this is and I think this is an interesting response.
I'm curious if you've thought about it a lot too, Buck,
You're smart enough to have been a doctor if you
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wanted to be a doctor. I'm smart enough to have
been a doctor if I wanted to be a doctor.
This idea that only doctors are able to look at
data and analyze it and make decisions that are smart
flies in the face of all American public policy, because
most governors and senators and congressmen are not doctors. But
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we elect people and we listen to people based on
buck whether or not we trust their judgment and their
ability to analyze facts. And so this idea that you
should have to be a doctor to look at COVID rates,
I mean, Ron de Santis is not a doctor. His analysis,
by the way, as a Harvard lawgrad, could have certainly
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been a doctor if he had wanted to be a doctor,
is smart enough to have been a doctor. But he's
smart enough to look at data. You and I are
smart enough to look at data. And a lot of
people out there aren't willing to look at data. They
want to be led, their comfortable being cheap, and that's
why people are still listening to Fauci. You have this
credentialed class in the country in particular, I mean you're
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talking about a lot of mds, and these are the
blue check and that you see who make noise and
go on MSNBC and post photos like the one that
I sent you of the mom doctor with her three
kids with masks and face shields on as if face
shields are meant to prevent, like they use them in
some capacities in a medical setting, the actual splatter it
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doesn't do anything about aerosolis virus wearing a face shield.
It's like if you were a World War One infantrymen
and you put on a face shield to protect you
from mustard gas, you were going to have a very
bad day. It doesn't do anything. They must know this
at some level, but they believe that by continuing to
adhere to this, they not only give themselves meaning and
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think that they're more secure Clay, they're also tying themselves
to the rest of the smart people. It's not just
virtue signaling. There's an intelligence signaling that they think goes
on here. All the really, I mean, you're mentioning doctors
and how oh, you're not a doctor. All the super
smart people out there believe Fauci, even though of course
that's not true. There are doctors, epidemiologists that we've talked
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to it. We've got on the show from Stanford, from Cambridge,
from all over the country who will say that this
is crap and they're never going to admit Clay no
matter what the data actually says you keep saying, look
at the data that there's a very real chance that
almost everything that the Fauciites have told us to do
did nothing of benefit and was massively counterproductive, all cosmetic theory.
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I mean, I think that's what. Like you listed all
the things that Fauci has gotten wrong. Here's a good
question for people out there, what's he gotten right? Like,
what has Fauci beyond a shadow of a doubt looking
at the data gotten right. I'm not sure buck that
he's gotten a single thing right now. And I'm giving
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him credit for being adjusting his opinions constantly because originally,
remember he was like, oh, masks don't work, it makes
no sense to go get masks. He usually like this
six foot rule is total crap. Like everything that Fauci
has advocated is cosmetic theater, and it is totally non
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non effective, ineffective, has had zero impact. I think I
think Faucci has gotten got one thing very right, unfortunately,
and that is making it very clear to everybody in
the Democrat Party. And he's effectively a Democrat operative in
a lab code and believes in authoritarian bureaucratic control of
the American people. I think he played the politics right.
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You know, this is a guy who was somehow in
the Trump administration in charge of the awful Trump response
they say, right, and we know, of course it's not true,
but managed to not only keep it really elevate his
job in the next administration. Well, well, why is that
the case? How does that make you know? Whatever happened
to Deborah Burkes remember her? Well, she took a big
party at home and she told all of us not
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to see our relatives over Thanksgiving. That was kind of
a bad move, and then she just pieced out though.
But I do think it's an interest in question, Buck,
And I don't know that we'll ever get the actual data.
If we had done absolutely nothing at all, if we
had just kept schools open, if everybody had kept working,
if we had changed zero, like, if we really hadn't
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done anything, would we be in a better place right now?
Because if herd immunity is the way out, Buck, and
that's really what DeSantis was arguing, And if we aren't
going to get herd immunity through vaccination, which I think
the data reflects that we're really not, ultimately everybody's going
to have to get this or enough people are going
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to have to get this that it's not spreading wide,
get actual herd immunity, which is real. We're trying to
induce essentially an artificial herdamentary through the vaccination process, not
through the actual contact. I mean, the MMRNA vaccine works
by you know, the spike protein. And this is a
level of science that's you know, is legitimately not something
that the that ever that folks like me understand, but
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you do know that it's different than the T cell
immunity you get from your immune system actually dealing with
the virus. But Clay, to the point about what would
happen if we had basically done nothing, You've done something
close to nothing. Fun fact, I'm putting Clay on the spot,
but I think it didn't get this one right. How
many people died yesterday in Sweden from COVID? Clay, I
think it's almost zero one. Yeah, so there you. I mean,
(12:22):
I've looked at their death chart. They basically said we're
gonna go for her immunity and COVID doesn't exist now
in Sweden ten million people, folks, ten million people a
year ago, an experiment in death. The Swedes aren't listening
to the science Fauci is, I'm very very concerned, you know,
the whole thing. One person in the whole country. And
(12:44):
by the way, it's not an anomaly. Zero the day
be four zero. I'm looking at the numbers right now.
Zero the day be four one zero. They're losing more
people to death by be staying right now in Sweden
most likely than they are from COVID. And now the
Swedish people are in a lot better ape so they
don't have as many fat people as we do, which
I know you're not supposed to be able to talk
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about because you know, it's horribly upsetting to mension fat people.
Now it's fat chaming whatever else. But that's I mean,
we would be done with this if we had just
pieced out and continued to live our lives instead of
trying to shut everything down and allowing people like Fauci
to continue to have power. I also want to get
his clay focused in on in a few minutes, how
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they're starting to move. You could tell the mobilization and
the authoritarianism of COVID is now going to be transferred
into other Democrat policy priorities, like of course, climate change,
which we've been saying all along that they've gotten the notes,
apparently the Biden folks. We can get into that in
a second. But Clay, what do you got for us
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I making sense of all the madness today, including AOC
championing menstruating person's rights. This is the term now you're
(15:15):
supposed to use that won't offend people. Let's just refer
to a woman's cycle all the time without referring to
a woman, and that's this is a member of Congress, folks.
Plus Biden is pushing the climate change lunacy fifty percent
roughly solar energy, solar energy for the US by twenty fifty.
They're saying, we got four Taliban members swapped out for
bo Bergdahl who are now by the Obama Administration't we
(15:38):
all remember that now running essentially the Afghan governor. They're
like the cabinet and you got the Robert E. Lee statue,
taking down a historic statue. Pelosi is calling Afghanistan a
historic and remarkable withdrawal. So we got oh and mansion
on the spending, Clay gets excited about the spending st
I am excited to see what's gonna happen with ye.
So we're gonna talk about that just a little bit.
That's all coming your way. But I've mentioned you before
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the break that climate change is the place the Democrats
want to go next. They're not going to get off
the total control of pandemic fouciism until they can transfer
this mass mobilization and authoritarianism to climate change, because then
it's existential. They control every aspect of your life. They're
just telling us is what they want to do. Sixteen.
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If our entire world, in our entire society is going
to shift because of climate change, it's a matter of
how it's going to shift. So basically, if we do
nothing to address climate change, we are going to see
the continued destruction of our supply chains. We are going
to see our crops not be able to grow in
the same way we will see our infrastructure begin to
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crumble away. We will see us not we will see,
you know, the continuation cliberation of other future pandemics as well.
And so that is how our life could change if
we do nothing, Can we get all the trolls online
to just go AOC is not a scientist, because that's
how could it be any dumber than what she just said?
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I just, um, I look, I understand that there's a
lot of politicians who are just not Look, here's what
AOC is good at. She's good at getting attention, which
is a big part of being a politician. Uh, she
is good at at the blue check brigade like just
kind of swarming around her because she says things, and
(17:28):
a want of congress people don't really say things. But
I've never heard her speak and thought, this is who
should be representing. How old is AOC, like thirty six,
thirty seven something like, I don't even think young old,
younger than that. Like, I've never thought AOC should be
the spokesperson of the millennial generation. And I don't think
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she advocates for anything that she advocates in a way
that is remotely helpful to what she advocates for thirty one.
You get the sense by the way that Nancy Pelosi
as much as she might dislike Mitch McConnell, and as
much as she might dislike other people. Nancy Pelosi genuinely
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Comedy has been destroyed completely and utterly by left wing righteousness.
Comedians are terrified to make jokes. Used to be you'd
flip on David Letterman, Johnny Carson, Jay Leno, and whatever
your political leanings might be. President got made fun of.
(19:37):
Famous political leaders got made fun of in the monologue,
and it was almost impossible to know what the overall
political leanings of the comedian might be because they tried
to be equal opportunity attackers. Now, comedy is basically dead
in late night television, although we should mention even though
it doesn't get a lot of attention. Greg Guttfeld, You've
(19:58):
been going on his show for a long time, Buck,
Greg Gutfeld dunks all over Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel over,
who's the other guy, Jimmy Fallon? Like they absolutely destroy
Now Greg Gutfeld does Fox News late night programs. They
inherited those other can they inherited massive platforms and audiences
(20:23):
that were built in Yeah, Fox is obviously a very
large platform for news. It's there's not an inherited audience
of a couple million people every night at eleven PM
to watch comedy, which which Greg, to his absolute credit,
has built and to the to Fox's credit, has allowed
that kind of a show, which honestly we should have.
(20:44):
There should be more shows like that, right, There should
be more shows that try to be culturally relevant as
well as news relevant from a not even just a
concern just a rite of center or centrist perspective would
be nice, or just a logical perspective. But it is
interesting that that show with Greg Gutfeld has begun to dominate.
And here's my thesis, and I'm curious before we play
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this clip from Jimmy Kimmel last night, I'm curious what
you think in general about this thesis book. I believe
that what happened in late night television is Stephen Colbert
went all in on attacking Donald Trump like crazy, and
his show on CBS went from last place to first
place because there were people who wanted to tune in
(21:26):
to a Trump is Awful comedic focused broadcast. Colbert had
a lot of success, and then Jimmy Kimmel and h
and Jimmy Fallon chased Colbert to the point where honestly
the smart play probably would have been to go in
the opposite direction of Colbert. But because Hollywood is so
left wing and left leaning, you can't get guests that
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are promoting their movies or or or are gonna come
on your your television broadcast period if you go too
far centrist or right wing. And so they all chased
each other down the left wing rabbit hole and basically
assured each other of mutual destruction. So I remember the
originator in a sense of this model, the guy who
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first got it right big time. And I'm sure he
used to see a show a lot, and I certainly
did back when I was in college. Was John Stewart
with the Daily Show, and that was going back to
the Bush administration. And what that was was a place
where because because liberals, I mean, you see this, they
love the Madhouse Show during Russia collusion, even though it
was all I wasn't true, that's what they wanted to see.
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They prefer even more just the snarky, snide attack of
someone pretending to be a comedian that's really doing political
commentary with jokes, because one they just want to see
pies thrown at the people they disagree with. You know,
those red state, anti vaxx, Trump voting maga hat people.
But also beyond that, they don't want to be encumbered
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by facts, logic, reason, or decency. They just want to
see their enemies mocked and humiliated. The left is obsessed
with this. They also can tolerate no humiliation of their idols,
their ideas. I mean the fact that we haven't seen
more comedy clay about people walking around with gas masks
or three masks on, or people that think it's to
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or hazmat suits, or it's normal to wear a mask
driving alone in their car. I mean, this is ripe
for comedy. I mean, these are things that is radely
ripe and ridicule, and yet it doesn't happen because we
all know that the one thing the Left cannot abide
is the ridicule of its rituals and its ideas, because
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then the whole thing starts to fall apart. It's cultural
resonance that makes it all so powerful. It's the cool
kids watch Colbert and laugh at his stupid anti Trump jokes,
and so everybody else does it at the same time.
But but I think that really what you're seeing is
actually just a form of propaganda because they're doing political
commentary on those shows, Colbert and Kim Olan whatever. But
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it's political commentary for stupid people because they don't actually
with the moment they get challenged it. Oh, I'm just
a comedian, I'm just making jokes. Well no, actually, you're
making political arguments with jokes placed around it so that
you're immune and you can just take snide, cheap shots
at the other side. Are you with me? Growing up?
If you watch the Leno, I was a Letterman guy.
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I don't remember having any sense for what their political
beliefs were. I never thought that Letterman was funny one
second of one day in my entire life. I didn't
watch him that much. I did watch Leno sometimes, so
I did think it was funny. So this is a
this is ane of these areas where I see here
I goo clay for a guy I agree with on
so many things. Letterman was a mean guy. I think
he was a funny guy. I loved the Letterman. I
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would watch Letterman every night. I like the way he
deconstructed late night television. We could probably have a huge
debate about this, but the bigger picture here is would
you agree with me as a Leno guy that you
really didn't get the sense that you knew what Jay
Leno or David Letterman thought politic Yes, he made jokes.
He made jokes that were meant for the entire studio
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audience and everyone watching at home. You could have been
a Bush voter and in the Leno years laugh at
jokes about Bush and it wasn't uncomfortable because it came
from a place of comedy, not a place of derision.
And what's happened now is the left, because of cancel
culture one, has weaponized the culture against the mockery of
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things that they hold sacred, but also don't really have
no interest in just the art of making people laugh
so much as they want to be propagandists for their
political side, and they want to they want to humiliate
their targets. They're not trying to make everybody laugh. And
it's interesting in that respect. I'll play let's play this
clip when we come back, because it is I think
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a lot of you out there listening to us now
have sort of a visceral reaction when I say Letterman
or Leno, whether you like them or not, or certainly
if you go back to Johnny Carson, they were equal
opportunity comedian throwing punches and jabs in every direction, such
that you really never had a sense for exactly what
they believe themselves, almost in a Walter Cronkite sense for
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lack of a better way. But that's a whole other thing. Yeah,
but back in the day, you didn't really know. I mean, look,
I think the assumption has to be that if you
live in Hollywood or you live in New York and
your entertainment, you're probably a left leaning person, unless you
are totally silent, in which case I think that you
might not be. But I do think that the question
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of how did this pivot occur? And is there a
way out of it? And honestly, in the process, are
comedians cutting their own throats? Because if you only allow
humor in one direction, ultimately it's going to be a
failed humor. I mean, satire is usually directed at those
who are in power, and that's what it's supposed to do.
And this is why political cartoons, for example, throughout our
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history have been so powerful because they expose truths that
also have a cultural sailing right. They show things in
a way they visualize what we know to be true,
and as often something you're not supposed to say, or
those in power don't want you to feel comfortable saying.
What's happened now is particularly when you're talking about the gatekeepers,
gatekeepers of our culture. They determine what jokes are allowed
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and are not allowed, and they certainly don't want them
being directed at the people who are in power. And
that just goes to right now, Clay, what is there
to make fun of? If you're Stephen Colbert, if you're
these other I don't even I haven't seen their shows
in a long time. I see clips them occasionally. What
is there to make You can make fun of the
Biden administration, You're not going to make fun of the
fact that there's a scenile buffoon who is actually president
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of the United States because that's your team. So all
the actual comedy that people might be making is always
encumbered by this subservience to political belief. And that's why, yeah,
comedy is basically dead. That plus everything that's actually funny.
Now you can't say out loud in a public forum
without possibly losing your job, being kicked out of your housing.
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck. We're
gonna have updates for all of you all. In the
situation in Afghanistan, some Democrats are saying all US citizens
are out. Chuck Schumer said that that's interesting because it's
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not true. But they're already furiously rewriting the history of this.
They're talking about a Biden doctrine, and we're learning more
about the Taliban looks like the old Taliban in a
lot of ways, including some of the leadership. We'll get
into this coming up the top of the next hour.
Clay had mentioned that there was a there's a dearth
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of humor from people that have the supposed comedian positions
on TV. They're really political commentators who occasionally make jokes.
Jimmy Kimmel, who I mean, He's gone after people on
the right in ways that I thought were just I'm
not even talking about to make jokes about, but in
a more personal way. It seems kind of nasty. Here
he is talking about this is his version of comedy play.
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Doctor Fouchi said that if hospitals get any more over crowded.
They're gonna have to make some very tough choices about
who gets an ICU. But that choice doesn't seem so
tough to me. Vaccinated person having a heart attack, Yes,
come right on him, we'll take care of you. Unvaccinated
guy who gobbled horse coup rest in peace, wheezy. We've
still got a lot of pandemwitz out there. People are
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still taking this iver mechton. You know, the poison control
centers have seen as this spike in calls from people
taking this livestock medicine to fight the coronavirus. But they
will take the vaccine. Apparently he's paid millions and millions
of dollars by what is a disney to be a
moron and a liar, because that's what that sound clip
says to me. First of all, the horse Anyone who
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says it's a horse drug is an idiot who's being dishonest.
It's not even possible to be that stupid but claim,
and this is what we're up against. Yeah, look, I
think the whole hort and we need to play later
in the show the Joe Rogan clip. Because you took
ivermectin it was prescribed to you when you had COVID. Yes,
by by a highly regarded infectious disease specialist of forty
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years almost of practice in New York City. Yes, and
it's not the same doctor. But Joe Rogan I'm sure
also had ivermectin prescribed to him by a doctor. It
has been prescribed to humans for decades as a as
a drug, right, It also probably millions of lives o
course of many years. Yeah. So so this is that clip,
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to me, is emblematic of in many ways the failure
of comedy because it's not a joke that would have
been made I don't believe by David Letterman or Jay Lenno.
And look, I know Jimmy because I do a show
with his cousin Sal Jimmy, and I I mean, he's
a good dude. I like him on an individual basis.
And he's good friends with Adam Carolla Buck, who has
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almost identical opinions to you and me in many different respects,
except Corolla is a lot funnier. And if you watch
The Man Show Back in the Day, which I bet
you watch some clips of back in the day when
because you're around saying The Man Show, which was Adam
Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel and which my buddy Sal wrote
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on is fabulously funny. And I think the distance between
late night television today and what The Man Show could
do represents a failure fundamentally of comedy, And to your
point earlier, if you are and I think it's a
big question, and I don't know the answer. You know,
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Gutfeld is having a lot of success by effectively being
the anti Colbert right. He's coming to things from a
right wing perspective, where Colbert comes at it from a
left wing perspective. Is there still a space in comedy
for a guy who is basically right down the middle
or a girl going after equal side humor. I don't
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know that there is, buck I wonder on some level
whether we have so And I'm making up a word here,
potentially nichified comedy. That the only way you can win
in society, And I wonder about this and worry about
this a little bit, is if you are trying to
appeal to a targeted demo instead of trying to appeal
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to the mass. Well, this is also what happens when
you have gatekeepers, those who control platforms, corporations openly going woke,
and now what you have is you can call it
the Balkanization of the media. It certainly happened in news
and commentary. When I got into this ten years ago.
Clay MSNBC would say, Buck, we want to have you
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debate jihadism or something with so and so, and we
don't actually get to fight it out on TV. CNN
would have people say, how could you ever work at
CNN because they let me go on and crush and
have debates and it was fun. You could actually do that.
Now they would cheat and they would talk over you,
and you know, there's a lot of like it was
a hostile environment. But Alisa used to happen. Now no
one really does this anymore. It doesn't exist and everyone
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just wants, you know, they want what they expect from
a host to be said night in and night out.
And I mean, Clay, you know, I understand that. You know,
the Jimmy Kimmel, maybe he's a nice guy person to person,
but the stuff that he's saying, given what we're going
through as a country and the real threats we face,
I mean, it's reckless. Man. It's bad. It's not it's
not cool at all to pretend that people are that
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people shouldn't go. He says that he makes that as
a joke. Other people are going to say, yeah, you
know what, You're right, unvaccinated people shouldn't get into the ICU.
I mean, that's a what's you right now? What's crazy
is at least he's a comedian saying that they're a
real doctor saying that that I basically, hey, I'm not
going to treat you if if you are not vaccinated.
And to me again, all of this begs the question
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is has the left, the wing in many ways killed comedy?
Have they destroyed all? I think there's I think the mockery.
I think we gotta be honest. I think the mockery
comes in advance of the policy. A lot of the time,
it's it's, oh, those stupid Trumpers won't do this, or
those Trumpers won't do that, and they make jokes about it,
and then all of a sudden it's Pelosi and Schumer
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on the floor of Congress who are advocating where the
bidenstration just saying this needs to happen. And enough people
have bought into the lies that the mockery are built
on that they go, yeah, you know what, I guess
we do have to do. It's not it's not funny anymore, Clay, Right,
that's what they'd say. It's reality. Now we have to
make them do this. And I think this is also
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a function of Twitter, right, because Twitter is so far
left wing, yet it is for media people cat nip right.
Even if you're a even if you're a middle of
the road or right wing person, you still understand that
that is where stories come and where debates take play.
And one percent of the country is really on Twitter.
There isn't it like three or something, And it's two
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percent of people are actually active tweeting on a day
to day basis one fifty's it's people that live in
our world that are relating. We gotta well, we'll come
back to this. We have so many calls people obviously
what people are fired up because this does matter to
the culture and to our politics, as Breitbart said, politics
downstream of culture. We'll come back there with some Afghanistan
updates for you. Just about the Biden administration. Is it
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getting in the way of some of these evacuations and
what is Pelosi already saying about it? Clay, what else
is the top of mind for you hour two. Look,
I think you can keep making fun of me about
the budget, but mansion coming out and you get super
excited about that. You I'm pretty excited about the budget.
That Robert E. Lee statue coming down. I got some
big thoughts on that, and I think we still have
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to dive into this COVID madness, even though we've talked
about it a great deal. Take your calls as well
coming up and a few stick around. You're listening to
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