September 10, 2021 • 37 mins
Football fans thumb their noses at the president of the United States, 70,000-plus maskless fans show up at NFL opener. Biden's covid response has been an abject failure. Former Planned Parenthood leader praises Biden vaccine mandate for giving cover to corporations who want to control their employees' bodies. Fauci finally asked about natural immunity, has no answer, basically admits Clay and Buck are right. C&B take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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as well. Big Show Day, Monster Show Day with the
statements that Joe Biden made last night yesterday afternoon mandating
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the COVID vaccine for many different Americans, and he did so,
and what I think is a fascinating window into the
dual dichotomy of America today. Buck. Right now, I'm in Fayetteville, Arkansas,
getting ready for the Texas Arkansas game. We're on the
road with Fox for big games all weekend. You're gonna
come to one as well here in a couple of weeks.
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But I was out last night at a sports bar
watching the Dallas Cowboys play against Tampa BA Buccaneers. NFL
season kicked off last night, and within a couple of
hours of Joe Biden speaking, you had seventy thousand plus,
the biggest crowd for an NFL game since the Super
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Bowl in Miami in February of twenty twenty, coming up
on well over a year and a half. No masks
in the crowd. And I think we have got a
fascinating dichotomy here, because I'm on the road right now
in Arkansas, they're gonna have the biggest crowd they've ever
had for a football game with Texas coming to town.
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Football fans are thumbing their nose at the President of
the United States. They are living their best life, and
they're not responding well to the hectoring from Joe Biden.
Let's play cut seven and listen to his tone talking
last night. Well, what makes it incredibly more frustrating is
we have the tools to come back. COVID nineteen and
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a distinct minority of Americans, supportive by stinct minority of
elected officials, are keeping us from turning the corner. These
pandemic politics, sorry for are are making people sick, causing
unvaccinated people to die. We cannot allow these actions to
stand in the way of protecting the large majority of
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Americans who have done their part. I want to get
back to life is normal. I just don't understand buck
at its basic level. If you trust the vaccine, and
if you believe in the vaccine, why do you care
what anybody else is doing? I just I don't even
understand that. There's a lot of cognitive logic doesn't add up.
You'll see, you'll see the cognitive dissonance on display. When
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on the one hand, you have neurotic people under fifty
who are Biden voters, who are terrified at the notion
of being around they're vaccinated and their masked and their
social They're terrified of being around anybody who they think
maybe isn't all of those things, which goes to how
effective can you really believe all of this really is?
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And by the way, I think that when it comes
to the vaccines, a lot of them don't even read that.
They they don't care. Right, this has all become for them.
The good people take it. It's posturing, it's virtue signaling.
That they don't get into the actual numbers or the
risk factors. But so they get very upset at the
notion of there being anyone around who is unvaccinated while
they themselves are. But then also they celebrate and we
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played that Howard Stern clip. There are people who are
celebrating when people who choose not to get the vaccine
are dying. Here's here's basically what you can't really there's
a circle you can't square here. There's something it doesn't
add up if in fact only unvaccinated people are really
at risk of hospitalization and death, which is what is
being said, and that is what they'll point you right now.
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They're not saying it doesn't spread at all from vaccinated people.
We've moved past that, although they'll say it's in much
lesser numbers than it does from the unvaccinated. But Clay,
if in fact that's the point, what are these libs
so upset about all the time, right Because I mean
they're saying openly that you know, you're making a choice,
and they'll say you get what you deserve if you're
on vaccinated and you get really sick or worse. But
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they're walking around terrified all the time. How does that
make any sense? They have to recognize deep down that
the vaccines don't provide the protection. That they're trying to
argue they provide, and so you're asking people and look,
on a broad scale, we have failed in our COVID
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response epically. And I hope we were talking about this
off the air the other day, Buck. I hope in
thirty or forty years that I'm alive to see great
books written about all this failure, just so for the
historical record we can start to see it. But all
of these actions, First of all, I don't believe Joe
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Biden's actions are constitutional when it comes to this mandate,
I also don't believe, and this is a significant part.
And I think even the vaccinated recognized this now too,
they won't say it publicly. Even if we were one
hundred percent vaccinated, even if every adult twelve and up
who is available to the vaccine, COVID's not going away,
well they were so that and or they don't. They
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don't accept that that's a possible. It's seventy five percent now, right,
you know, like three quarters of people if it were,
if it were wildly successful as a vaccine, seventy five
percent of people having the COVID vaccine would be more
than enough to give us her immunity. Right, if the
vaccine worked fantastically well, doesn't. Their belief is that the
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twenty five percent who can get vaccinated who are not vaccinated,
that that that's where all the COVID spread out. The
only reason we're not back to the only reason we're
not back. That's what they're saying. And that's where you
got into this tone from the Biden administration, I mean
from Biden himself when he says things like patience. I mean,
here you go play. He actually said, are your patience
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is wearing thin? What more do you need to see?
We've made vaccinations free, safe, and convenience. The vaccine is
ada approval. Over two hundred million Americans have gotten at
least one shot. You've been patient, but our patience is
wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us.
He please do the right thing. He's straight up saying,
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by the way, anyone who has not gotten the vaccine,
this the President United States. You're killing people by not
getting the vaccine. This is what he's saying. Now, let's
just put aside for a second that, for one, he's
saying that about people with natural immunity, which is just
scientifically false. So start with that. I think it's also
unfair to those who are unvaxed as well. I'm not
saying that, but it's wrong on multiple levels. But this
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goes right into the mentality that we see now where
there are people play who have prominent platforms, have big followings,
and if you were to ask them right now, how
would you feel about Joe Biden and people listening to this, no,
this is true, how would you feel about Joe Biden
setting up quarantine camps We'll call them quarantine camps instead
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of something else where you will gather large numbers of
people who are unvaccinated until they choose to get until
they were willing to get the vaccine. They would say fine,
they say they see what's going on Australia and New Zealand.
A lot of them would say, that's not an overreach,
that's not a problem. You know. Forget about like you
know Karamatsu and that Supreme Court decision right, forget about
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what we've learned about taking people without just cause and
throwing them into a camp. There. We have gone all
the way to that point now where there are a
lot of individuals in this country who are they think
it's completely justified for people lose their jobs over this.
They think it's completely justified and accelebrate even openly when
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people die and they don't know if that person had
or thought they had a natural immunity, They don't know
what the circumstances of their health were, but they'll celebrate
it if they were opposed to vaccine. Man. Remember, opposition
of vaccine mandates is not the same thing as opposition
to the vaccine. There are Trump Trump got vaccinated and
tells everybody who is at risk thing get vaccinated every
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time he speaks. Well, not only that, I mean Joe
Biden himself. As we started off the show by saying
said that vaccine mandates wouldn't happen. Nancy Pelosi said, the
federal government can't do it. The two part thing that
is so huge here is one, this is unconstitutional, and
there are lots of people out there that are not
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going to care that this is unconstitutional and they're going
to allow their rights to be tramp How much would
you how much faith can you really put in the
court system to save you from this one. They didn't
save us from Obama care. I know we got a
different by the way, not only the court, by the way,
but people have to file lawsuits in order for the
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court to get the right to make a decision. And
I think what's going to happen is many of these
big corporations are going to acquiesce to Joe Biden's demand,
even if it's not constitutional. They're gonna send out emails,
They're gonna let all their employers know that they're following
the mandate. Okay, so that's one, but two and I
think we got to keep hammering this home. Even if
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every single person who was in this country had the
COVID vaccine, COVID's not going away, but then there would
still be a lot of people. You're still be at
the data, right. No, I'm saying you're right. But they
this is the point that they won't acknowledge it. They
say no, which is why I think buck this is
so far Joe Biden hasn't come off the top rope
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with the restrictions, and I think, deep down, I'm curious
what you think about this idea. I think, deep down,
the reason why he's not, say, mandating the vaccine for
airplane travel, for instance, crossing state lines. I think the
reason why he's not done that is because if he
does everything, if he mandates, COVID vaccine, everything else, and
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the numbers don't really change that much, which is what
I think would happen, right because we're already at seventy
five percent of adults who have gotten one shot or more.
Then what else do you do except have to acknowledge
that your entire anti COVID battle is basically going to
come down to the natural immunity. I feel like I
could see the enemy's steps a few a few steps
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ahead of them, Clay, They'll just say that it's a
variant that was incubated by the unvaccinated in the time
period that we had to play catchup on the vaccines.
I know people hear that they're head and that's one
of the arguments we should acknowledge. Because some people will
say if you say, okay, you got vaccinated, why do
you care whether other people are ecinated or not. They
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will say, well, if you're not vaccinated, you're allowing the
variants to spread, which could be of more danger. The
challenge with that is the variants aren't coming out of
the United States. The variants are coming around the world
where almost no one is vaccinated. Delta came out of India,
the odds of there being a variant that emerges in
the United States are very very low compared to the
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odds of there being a variant that emerges somewhere else.
And the variants for the flu, we're not gonna be
able to vaccinate the world. Yeah, the variants for the
flu emerge out of China pretty much every year. This
is known. This has been known in epidemiology for decades now,
and it's largely because of the huge numbers of livestock,
particularly pork, like swine flu and foul You know, people
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eating geese and chickens and things like that that are
in close proximity to human beings in China, and that's
where you have that zoonotic transmission that occurs. And this
is how you get swine flu and bird flu and
these things tend to come out of China as a result,
but you know, they can pop up wherever. Clay. We
haven't beaten the common cold. We haven't destroyed the flu.
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If we could with one shot. We have a feeling
we have, and yet we know to be gone. There
are hundreds of different versions of the common cold that
people regularly get. There are new versions of the flu
of influenza that come out every single year, and we
know one we can't defeat those entirely, and two you
can't avoid them entirely. And this spring, it's almost like
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we've gone back to the very beginning of the conversation here,
and it's remarkable to me two people are now acting like, oh,
you know, we'd be all done. We have turned the corner.
What Almost seven hundred thousand people have died, almost one
hundred million have been infected. This is success. This is
what This is the the upside of all these policies
that we've seen. You have to ask how different would
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this have been if we just told sick people stay
away from healthy people, which is what we always do.
And other than that, yes, you know, wish for the best,
your vaccines to those who are at high risk as
soon as you can, but understand that that's you know,
our flu program is basically get senior citizens vaccinated or
people with immune immunocompromise, and other than that, it's you know,
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we go forward with life. That should be the half
to live a life normalcy. By the way, Buck, I've
got a clip I just saw. Doctor Fauci has been
asked about those with natural immunity and why they should
be bad. You've given me hot burn already, Vouch. I'm upset. Vouch.
We're gonna play that audio for you when we come back.
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for all of us. I know. We also want to
get to your calls later on a later half, a
latter half rather of this hour. Eight hundred two eight
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two two eight eight two. We have a spot or
two open right now. So if you want to give
us a ring. And I've been saying this, I think
Clay agrees with me. Just know that they're not done
with these mandates. While we sit here and say, oh
my gosh, it's unconstitutional, what are they doing? This is madness,
they're saying, yeah, there's more where that came from. Here
is CNN's favorite doctor used to be in charge of
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Planned parenthood, which I'm sure you all know how I
feel about that, but here she is doctor. When Lena
Wenn saying that the vaccine mandates that were announced yesterday
don't go far enough when it comes to employee, I
think what the Biden aministration did was quite brilliant because
it gives air cover for businesses that have wanted to
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do this, that have wanted to put vaccine manage in place,
but they didn't want to have their employees complain about them.
Now they can say, hey, we didn't really want to
do this, but the administration, the federal government, is making
us do it. It also helps to level the playing
field so that people aren't then going to threaten to
go to another workplace of every workplace has that same requirement.
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That's a good thing. So I don't think it's overreach.
I think this is what's needed in the middle of
a pandemic. And in fact, I think the Biden adinistration,
if anything, could have gone even further, could have gone
further in clay they I think you're right, by the way.
It'll be completely dependent on case counts. But if we
are at one hundred thousand plus cases a day on
a seven day rolling averages where we are right now,
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we're about I think, oh, I'm sorry. Where we're at
forty one and fifty one hundred and fifty k ish
right like on average right now. So if we're if
we're at a level that is well beyond what the
Faucci consensus thinks is acceptable, they're they're going to roll
out a few a few more things, and they're really
just gonna make it so there's no there's nowhere to
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hide them. Mean less, they're gonna go totally off the
grid and not work for anybody, not go to any business.
You're gonna you're gonna end up either getting the shot
or forging the paperwork for the shot, which I'm gonna
tell you this too. They're gonna start cracking down on
that a whole lot more as well. Yeah, and we're
gonna play some fauci for you on natural immunity when
we come back. Because he finally got asked the question
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that we've been begging for someone to ask, and he
didn't have a good answer. It's probably not going to
surprise you at all. But yes, this decision is going
to be so monumental for so many different people out there.
And remember, Bucket's not only adults having to make decisions.
There's a lot of people out there. For instance, in
Los Angeles, you're twelve year old has to be vaccinated
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Past performance not a gay tee a future earnings. Welcome
back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show taking you into
the weekend. Man, I I tell you what a crazy
week of stories. And I don't know about you, Buck,
but I keep thinking, like, hey, you know it's September.
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Maybe things will be a little bit quiet, you know,
maybe they'll be We're gonna be scrambling trying to find
things to talk about. Every day is more chaos. We're
not even in an election year, man. I mean the
meat and potatoes of what we do is political talk
radio here, and I mean between the Biden disastrous Afghan
evacuation and now the mandates, and I mean, you know
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there's also just a backdrop to all this. I know
you're gonna tee up this this Fauci thing for us
in a second. I think it is the first time
in eighteen months I've heard him address natural immunity. And
he's essentially going to say Clay and Buck are right,
although he won't say it that way, but that is
what he's saying. And through all this, the Biden in
stration has failed. I mean they could say, oh, but
it's people's fault or whatever. No, we were told that
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we would turn the corner, he would crush the virus,
not the economy. YadA, YadA, YadA. They have not managed
to get us to where they said they would at
this point. All right, we have a lot of people
in media who listen to this show. We understand that
a lot of you are busy and you're prepping, and
you're like, Hey, what's significant out there that we need
to be talking about. Here's what I would request because
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we don't get to go to the White House Press briefing.
Joe Biden's not going to talk to us. We don't
get to talk to doctor Fauci. We get to talk
to all of you, millions of people every day. But
here's what I would request for people out there who
are listening that do get the opportunity to ask these questions.
Ask the same question of doctor Fauci and Jensaki, and
also of Joe Biden and Rachelle Rowlinski, the CDC director.
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I want to give credit here. This is on CNN.
Doctor san Josanja gooped us. So for everybody out there
who's like, oh, you're not a doctor, how dare you
have an opinion on any medical issue whatsoever? You're Kelly grandma,
Which is what Buck and I have been hearing for
eighteen months. We have been slamming this story on the
radio show. Because both of us happened to have COVID,
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we recovered from it. There is zero discussion of maybe
one hundred million people out there, pretty decent percentage of
the American population, maybe even higher, that have had COVID
and have recovered from it, And there is Israeli data
which we talked about with all of you that says
that natural immunity that is recovering from COVID is up
to twenty seven times as protective as vaccinated immunity. And
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last night, I believe this is doctor Sanjay Gupta was
on with Anderson Cooper and the fouchmeister himself, and I
want you to listen to Sanjay Gupta directly asked Fauci
about natural immunity and listen to Fauci's response play the cut.
There was a study that came out of Israel about
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natural immunity, and basically the headline was that natural immunity
provides a lot of protection, even better than the vaccine alone.
What are people to make of that? So as we
talk about vaccine mandates that are I get calls all
the time people say I've already had COVID, I'm protected,
And now the study says maybe even more protected than
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the vaccine alone. Should they also get the vaccine? How
do you make the case to them? You know, that's
a really good point, son Ja, I don't have a
really firm answer for you on that. That's something that
we're going to have to discuss regarding the durability of
the response. The one thing to paper from Israel didn't
tell you is whether or not as high as the
protection is with natural infection, what's the durability compared to
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the durability of a vaccine. So it is conceivable that
you got infected, you're protected, but you may not be
protected for an indefinite period of time. So I think
that is something that we need to sit down and
discuss seriously, because you're very appropriately pointed out it is
an issue, and there could be an argument for saying
what you said. Oh oh, there could be an argument
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about clay verse. Of all, we know he's talking about
durability of natural immunity. We know the durability of the
vaccines is not very long because they have to get boosters,
and that's already been established. So in what world should
we make the assumption that the natural immunity is worse
in terms of duration and durability even than the vaccines
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that we've already found out do not last. How does
it take eighteen months for Fauci to be asked this,
In credit to doctor Sanjay Gupta for asking him on
live television, how does he still not have an answer. Buck,
all he's done for COVID for eighteen months is talk
about COVID, and when he finally gets asked after eighteen
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months about natural immunity, his answer is, I don't have
a really firm answer for you on that. What are
you doing? Fauci. Here's what it is. I'm so angry
about it, I know. But the good news is we're right.
So yeah, everyone listening to us. He's admitting he's like
Clay and Buck as much as they are barbarous evildoers
killing grandparents across America. On the issue, the specific issue
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of the immunity that is conferred after a natural infection,
He's saying, we're correct. Okay, so that's great. Beyond that, though, Clay,
the reason that he's like, I don't have an answer,
I don't really know is because this would create a
hurdle for the policy they are ramming down everyone's throats
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right now. It would create an additional complication and it
would slow down the you know, pushing the lemmings off
the cliff, so to speak, like they want everyone to
do it and the last questions later, you should be
able to go out and get an antibody test. Like
I have done, like you have done, Buck, and if
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you have antibodies naturally from a COVID infection, you should
be able to present that in lieu of a vac
scene and in lieu of needing to constantly get tested,
because the data reflects that natural immunity is better than
vaccinated immunity. Now the CYNC, Buck would say, the reason
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why Fauci is saying I don't have a really firm
answer for you on that is not only because it
complicates the situation and calls into question their vaccine mandates.
It also creates a lot smaller business opportunity for Maderna
and for Fiser, and for Johnson and Johnson, because it
would pull a hundred million Americans or so out of
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the required vaccination pool and also out of the required
test instant booster and testing bottle sting as well. They're
talking about billions and billions of dollars that this answer
could potentially cost drug company. They are talking about test
and trace again, even though at the beginning of the
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pandemic when they discussed this, because I would hear people say, oh,
tests and trace is really effective, you know for STDs
for syphilis, and I sit. They're saying, for most of us,
it's a lot easier to give the list of who
we might have had that issue with than who we've
been in an elevator for two minutes with. Right For
most of us, STD test and trace is a very
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different thing than what you have for an aerosolized virus.
Test and trace was a joke in this country with
one hundred thousand, with fifty thousand, with ten thousand cases day,
you're not tracing every person who's coming to contact with it.
But they're trying to go back to it. Because Clay,
we've created the biosecurity theater state. Now that's where we
are and it's all coming back together now. I would
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say I asked for media that are listening to us,
that might be covering people in positions of power to
ask about natural immunity. I also want to say this,
We've got a lot of governors, we got a lot
of representatives, we got a lot of senators and their
staff and or their staff that listen to this show
as well. I think that the Rhonda santis Is and
Greg Abbots of the world, big state governors in Texas
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and Florida need to start to talk about natural immunity
as well and say, hey, we need to be testing
to find out how many people have natural immunity. And
if you're going to be saying, hey, get the vaccine
or you get fired, you should certainly be able if
you're me, or if you're you, or if you're one
of the other one hundred million Americans like us who
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were covered from COVID out there to say, hey, the
data reflects that I have immunity. I can prove that
I have antibodies. There's no need for me to get
a vaccine, and you shouldn't be forcing me at penalty
of losing my job to do so. So that is
a middle ground that I think is a very fertile
middle ground for a lot of politicians out there to
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be occupying as a part of rejecting this idea of
vaccine mandates. I think they are going to be pushed
in that direction. Enough people have kind of figured this out.
People like you and me have been making a lot
of noise about this for quite some time now because
it's so obvious and such an important part of the discussion.
But there are going to be still millions of people,
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and a lot of them they're going to this show
who cannot not never had a positive COVID test, cannot
prove and to bodies through you know, through the blood test,
and are still going to be affected by the vaccine Manet.
So it doesn't it doesn't make the problem go away,
doesn't solve everything, But it would be the first time
Clay that they have had that the lockdown or Fauciites
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have had to concede to scientific reality and effectively admit
in real time that there's a huge gaping hole in
their plans there that they must address. And let me
just say this too for people out there who may
not be following this perfectly. You I had chicken pox.
There now is a chicken pox vaccine. I have never
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gotten the chicken pox vaccine because I have natural immunity
to chicken pox. I would imagine Buck, you're probably the
same people of our age grew up and got chicken pox,
and now my kids get a chicken pox vaccine, so
they're never going to have it. But I've never been
required as an adult to go get the chicken pox
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vaccine because I already have natural immunity to chicken pox.
Just an idea for people to think about in their
own lives. That may be like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah,
and I believe later on chicken pox can reassert itself
as shingles. So even in that case, you can actually
come back later and you know, this is the world
we live in of pathogens and viruses. That's quite a
way to end fix. So let's come back in a second.
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very RESTful weekend. There'll be a reflective and contemplative weekend.
And know for a lot of us because of the
twentieth anniversary of nine to eleven, but you still gotta
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take care of yourself, get ready for the week ahead,
give some reflection to nine to eleven Memorial tomorrow, and
obviously we've also got some things to just be joyous
or joyful about the return of NFL football. I know,
Clay for a lot of people is just a sign
of life continuing on and life feeling feeling more normal.
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So we will hopefully be talking more about that in
the days and weeks. Life being more normal, that's what
we're all hoping to get toward. We got Dave in Spokane, Washington. Dave,
what's up, Hey, Jents, Well, I got some COVID that's
driving me crazy a bit real quick. On the nine
to eleven Remorance, I was a Marine Corps fifty three
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pilot and I just remember walking into the right room
early in the morning. I was in Hawaii and I'm
getting ready to lead a gun run for some section
aircraft to go out and qualify some aircrew and being told, hey,
you're doing your flight cancel I'm like, what do you mean,
Like the whole flight schedules canceled, and then they're like
look at the TV and seeing the aircraft, you know,
replay of it hitting the tower, and everybody in there
is like, dude, this is it. We're going to war. Uh.
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So that's basically my short, real quick memory on that
um on COVID. Though, my wife has been an RN
for thirty years, over thirty years now, she's working at
a hospital here in Washington State and she is not
going to be working after October eighteenth based on what
Insley put in place the governor here, and now the
Biden deal just kind of adds some spice to it.
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But the issue that is being really upsetting up here
is that Insley also made it to where if if
people do not take the shot, he has made it
to where you're you're counted as basically resigning, not being fired.
You're you're selecting to be let go for not getting
the vaccine. And he does that so you don't get
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any wow ape to that earlier caller Jada Ensley. And
he's a climate change lunatic. I know that God a
governor of Washington Clay. I mean this is spiteful. Thank you,
by the way, day for calling it by the lightful
stuff from Ensley, no doubt. This also is a study
that just came out, and again we're trying to give
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you all of the honest truth every single day in
a media environment where that almost doesn't happen. The Telegraph
in England says teenage boys are six times more likely
to suffer from heart problems from the COVID vaccine than
be hospitalized, a major study has found in England. This,
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by the way, is one reason why England, for instance,
not only is not mandating masks in schools Buck, but
they're also not suggesting that kids need to be vaccinated
for COVID because they are not at risk from COVID,
which is one of the small all mercies that we've
had throughout this entire process is that the younger you are,
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the less generally speaking COVID has as an impact. I
had a doctor reach out to me a few weeks
ago just to tell me that FYI myocarditis. To really
understand sometimes what kind of damage has been done can
take a while, which is really disconcerting to because that's
being one of the things that's come out about this.
If it's unnecessary, we don't need to put things in kids' bodies, right,
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I mean, that's the general perspective, and that's why so
many parents are struggling with this. Dave and Wilson, North Carolina. Dave,
what do you got? I'm just going to relate my
story about ninety eleven. I was a purchasing thats the
dier for Midway Airlines in Raleigh where we were based
out of Morrisville, which is at the airport, and I
had gone down to flots to talk to a pilot
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who was in fly at the time to see if
his airplane was okay. And the first plane hit the
tower and everybody stood there for a few seconds in disbelief,
and then it was like an explosion off. Okay, Now
we have to find all of our airplanes, because we
had sixty six airplanes in the air at that time.
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So a bunch of us started grabbing our telephones. We
had a bank of phones, and all you had to
do was dial the tell number the aircraft and you
could talk to the pilots just like we're talking around
And so we had to locate each one of our pilots. Well,
when the second one hit. We were all standing there
looking at the TV and we just kind of silently
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looked at one another, and it was the eerious thing.
You can imagine. The panic and bewilderment to just went
over everybody's face because now we have all these people
in the air, We've got our aircraft in the air,
and now we've got to get them on the ground.
Because the FAA guys said come in and locked us down,
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basically sequestered us, and we're just staying there trying to
locate our people in a panic. And then they gave
us the ultimatum of get your planes on the ground
within I believe it was thirty minutes. Oh, we will
take them out. They didn't say we might, we could,
They said we will take them out put them on
the ground. Wow. Wow, Dave, thank you for sharing that.
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Rememberance from nine to eleven ends. If we could do
a whole show just hearing from folks across the country.
Please everyone have a RESTful and reflective weekend. It is
the twentieth anniversary nine eleven tomorrow. Spend some time with
loved one, Spend some time with people who matter to you,
and rest up. And Clay and I'll be back with
you on Monday, no doubt. Should be a lot of
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fun next week. Craziness continues, not going away. Have a
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statements that Joe Biden made last night yesterday afternoon mandating
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the COVID vaccine for many different Americans, and he did so,
and what I think is a fascinating window into the
dual dichotomy of America today. Buck. Right now, I'm in Fayetteville, Arkansas,
getting ready for the Texas Arkansas game. We're on the
road with Fox for big games all weekend. You're gonna
come to one as well here in a couple of weeks.
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But I was out last night at a sports bar
watching the Dallas Cowboys play against Tampa BA Buccaneers. NFL
season kicked off last night, and within a couple of
hours of Joe Biden speaking, you had seventy thousand plus,
the biggest crowd for an NFL game since the Super
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Bowl in Miami in February of twenty twenty, coming up
on well over a year and a half. No masks
in the crowd. And I think we have got a
fascinating dichotomy here, because I'm on the road right now
in Arkansas, they're gonna have the biggest crowd they've ever
had for a football game with Texas coming to town.
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Football fans are thumbing their nose at the President of
the United States. They are living their best life, and
they're not responding well to the hectoring from Joe Biden.
Let's play cut seven and listen to his tone talking
last night. Well, what makes it incredibly more frustrating is
we have the tools to come back. COVID nineteen and
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a distinct minority of Americans, supportive by stinct minority of
elected officials, are keeping us from turning the corner. These
pandemic politics, sorry for are are making people sick, causing
unvaccinated people to die. We cannot allow these actions to
stand in the way of protecting the large majority of
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Americans who have done their part. I want to get
back to life is normal. I just don't understand buck
at its basic level. If you trust the vaccine, and
if you believe in the vaccine, why do you care
what anybody else is doing? I just I don't even
understand that. There's a lot of cognitive logic doesn't add up.
You'll see, you'll see the cognitive dissonance on display. When
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on the one hand, you have neurotic people under fifty
who are Biden voters, who are terrified at the notion
of being around they're vaccinated and their masked and their
social They're terrified of being around anybody who they think
maybe isn't all of those things, which goes to how
effective can you really believe all of this really is?
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And by the way, I think that when it comes
to the vaccines, a lot of them don't even read that.
They they don't care. Right, this has all become for them.
The good people take it. It's posturing, it's virtue signaling.
That they don't get into the actual numbers or the
risk factors. But so they get very upset at the
notion of there being anyone around who is unvaccinated while
they themselves are. But then also they celebrate and we
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played that Howard Stern clip. There are people who are
celebrating when people who choose not to get the vaccine
are dying. Here's here's basically what you can't really there's
a circle you can't square here. There's something it doesn't
add up if in fact only unvaccinated people are really
at risk of hospitalization and death, which is what is
being said, and that is what they'll point you right now.
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They're not saying it doesn't spread at all from vaccinated people.
We've moved past that, although they'll say it's in much
lesser numbers than it does from the unvaccinated. But Clay,
if in fact that's the point, what are these libs
so upset about all the time, right Because I mean
they're saying openly that you know, you're making a choice,
and they'll say you get what you deserve if you're
on vaccinated and you get really sick or worse. But
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they're walking around terrified all the time. How does that
make any sense? They have to recognize deep down that
the vaccines don't provide the protection. That they're trying to
argue they provide, and so you're asking people and look,
on a broad scale, we have failed in our COVID
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response epically. And I hope we were talking about this
off the air the other day, Buck. I hope in
thirty or forty years that I'm alive to see great
books written about all this failure, just so for the
historical record we can start to see it. But all
of these actions, First of all, I don't believe Joe
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Biden's actions are constitutional when it comes to this mandate,
I also don't believe, and this is a significant part.
And I think even the vaccinated recognized this now too,
they won't say it publicly. Even if we were one
hundred percent vaccinated, even if every adult twelve and up
who is available to the vaccine, COVID's not going away,
well they were so that and or they don't. They
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don't accept that that's a possible. It's seventy five percent now, right,
you know, like three quarters of people if it were,
if it were wildly successful as a vaccine, seventy five
percent of people having the COVID vaccine would be more
than enough to give us her immunity. Right, if the
vaccine worked fantastically well, doesn't. Their belief is that the
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twenty five percent who can get vaccinated who are not vaccinated,
that that that's where all the COVID spread out. The
only reason we're not back to the only reason we're
not back. That's what they're saying. And that's where you
got into this tone from the Biden administration, I mean
from Biden himself when he says things like patience. I mean,
here you go play. He actually said, are your patience
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is wearing thin? What more do you need to see?
We've made vaccinations free, safe, and convenience. The vaccine is
ada approval. Over two hundred million Americans have gotten at
least one shot. You've been patient, but our patience is
wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us.
He please do the right thing. He's straight up saying,
(06:41):
by the way, anyone who has not gotten the vaccine,
this the President United States. You're killing people by not
getting the vaccine. This is what he's saying. Now, let's
just put aside for a second that, for one, he's
saying that about people with natural immunity, which is just
scientifically false. So start with that. I think it's also
unfair to those who are unvaxed as well. I'm not
saying that, but it's wrong on multiple levels. But this
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goes right into the mentality that we see now where
there are people play who have prominent platforms, have big followings,
and if you were to ask them right now, how
would you feel about Joe Biden and people listening to this, no,
this is true, how would you feel about Joe Biden
setting up quarantine camps We'll call them quarantine camps instead
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of something else where you will gather large numbers of
people who are unvaccinated until they choose to get until
they were willing to get the vaccine. They would say fine,
they say they see what's going on Australia and New Zealand.
A lot of them would say, that's not an overreach,
that's not a problem. You know. Forget about like you
know Karamatsu and that Supreme Court decision right, forget about
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what we've learned about taking people without just cause and
throwing them into a camp. There. We have gone all
the way to that point now where there are a
lot of individuals in this country who are they think
it's completely justified for people lose their jobs over this.
They think it's completely justified and accelebrate even openly when
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people die and they don't know if that person had
or thought they had a natural immunity, They don't know
what the circumstances of their health were, but they'll celebrate
it if they were opposed to vaccine. Man. Remember, opposition
of vaccine mandates is not the same thing as opposition
to the vaccine. There are Trump Trump got vaccinated and
tells everybody who is at risk thing get vaccinated every
(08:26):
time he speaks. Well, not only that, I mean Joe
Biden himself. As we started off the show by saying
said that vaccine mandates wouldn't happen. Nancy Pelosi said, the
federal government can't do it. The two part thing that
is so huge here is one, this is unconstitutional, and
there are lots of people out there that are not
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going to care that this is unconstitutional and they're going
to allow their rights to be tramp How much would
you how much faith can you really put in the
court system to save you from this one. They didn't
save us from Obama care. I know we got a
different by the way, not only the court, by the way,
but people have to file lawsuits in order for the
(09:08):
court to get the right to make a decision. And
I think what's going to happen is many of these
big corporations are going to acquiesce to Joe Biden's demand,
even if it's not constitutional. They're gonna send out emails,
They're gonna let all their employers know that they're following
the mandate. Okay, so that's one, but two and I
think we got to keep hammering this home. Even if
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every single person who was in this country had the
COVID vaccine, COVID's not going away, but then there would
still be a lot of people. You're still be at
the data, right. No, I'm saying you're right. But they
this is the point that they won't acknowledge it. They
say no, which is why I think buck this is
so far Joe Biden hasn't come off the top rope
(09:52):
with the restrictions, and I think, deep down, I'm curious
what you think about this idea. I think, deep down,
the reason why he's not, say, mandating the vaccine for
airplane travel, for instance, crossing state lines. I think the
reason why he's not done that is because if he
does everything, if he mandates, COVID vaccine, everything else, and
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the numbers don't really change that much, which is what
I think would happen, right because we're already at seventy
five percent of adults who have gotten one shot or more.
Then what else do you do except have to acknowledge
that your entire anti COVID battle is basically going to
come down to the natural immunity. I feel like I
could see the enemy's steps a few a few steps
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ahead of them, Clay, They'll just say that it's a
variant that was incubated by the unvaccinated in the time
period that we had to play catchup on the vaccines.
I know people hear that they're head and that's one
of the arguments we should acknowledge. Because some people will
say if you say, okay, you got vaccinated, why do
you care whether other people are ecinated or not. They
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will say, well, if you're not vaccinated, you're allowing the
variants to spread, which could be of more danger. The
challenge with that is the variants aren't coming out of
the United States. The variants are coming around the world
where almost no one is vaccinated. Delta came out of India,
the odds of there being a variant that emerges in
the United States are very very low compared to the
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odds of there being a variant that emerges somewhere else.
And the variants for the flu, we're not gonna be
able to vaccinate the world. Yeah, the variants for the
flu emerge out of China pretty much every year. This
is known. This has been known in epidemiology for decades now,
and it's largely because of the huge numbers of livestock,
particularly pork, like swine flu and foul You know, people
(11:45):
eating geese and chickens and things like that that are
in close proximity to human beings in China, and that's
where you have that zoonotic transmission that occurs. And this
is how you get swine flu and bird flu and
these things tend to come out of China as a result,
but you know, they can pop up wherever. Clay. We
haven't beaten the common cold. We haven't destroyed the flu.
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If we could with one shot. We have a feeling
we have, and yet we know to be gone. There
are hundreds of different versions of the common cold that
people regularly get. There are new versions of the flu
of influenza that come out every single year, and we
know one we can't defeat those entirely, and two you
can't avoid them entirely. And this spring, it's almost like
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we've gone back to the very beginning of the conversation here,
and it's remarkable to me two people are now acting like, oh,
you know, we'd be all done. We have turned the corner.
What Almost seven hundred thousand people have died, almost one
hundred million have been infected. This is success. This is
what This is the the upside of all these policies
that we've seen. You have to ask how different would
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this have been if we just told sick people stay
away from healthy people, which is what we always do.
And other than that, yes, you know, wish for the best,
your vaccines to those who are at high risk as
soon as you can, but understand that that's you know,
our flu program is basically get senior citizens vaccinated or
people with immune immunocompromise, and other than that, it's you know,
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we go forward with life. That should be the half
to live a life normalcy. By the way, Buck, I've
got a clip I just saw. Doctor Fauci has been
asked about those with natural immunity and why they should
be bad. You've given me hot burn already, Vouch. I'm upset. Vouch.
We're gonna play that audio for you when we come back.
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Today we had Rigilianni on to talk about his memory
of the day itself nine eleven, twenty years ago tomorrow,
and that was I mean, it was riveting. It's it's
very emotional. It's there's a lot that it brings back
for all of us. I know. We also want to
get to your calls later on a later half, a
latter half rather of this hour. Eight hundred two eight
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two two eight eight two. We have a spot or
two open right now. So if you want to give
us a ring. And I've been saying this, I think
Clay agrees with me. Just know that they're not done
with these mandates. While we sit here and say, oh
my gosh, it's unconstitutional, what are they doing? This is madness,
they're saying, yeah, there's more where that came from. Here
is CNN's favorite doctor used to be in charge of
(15:46):
Planned parenthood, which I'm sure you all know how I
feel about that, but here she is doctor. When Lena
Wenn saying that the vaccine mandates that were announced yesterday
don't go far enough when it comes to employee, I
think what the Biden aministration did was quite brilliant because
it gives air cover for businesses that have wanted to
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do this, that have wanted to put vaccine manage in place,
but they didn't want to have their employees complain about them.
Now they can say, hey, we didn't really want to
do this, but the administration, the federal government, is making
us do it. It also helps to level the playing
field so that people aren't then going to threaten to
go to another workplace of every workplace has that same requirement.
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That's a good thing. So I don't think it's overreach.
I think this is what's needed in the middle of
a pandemic. And in fact, I think the Biden adinistration,
if anything, could have gone even further, could have gone
further in clay they I think you're right, by the way.
It'll be completely dependent on case counts. But if we
are at one hundred thousand plus cases a day on
a seven day rolling averages where we are right now,
(16:50):
we're about I think, oh, I'm sorry. Where we're at
forty one and fifty one hundred and fifty k ish
right like on average right now. So if we're if
we're at a level that is well beyond what the
Faucci consensus thinks is acceptable, they're they're going to roll
out a few a few more things, and they're really
just gonna make it so there's no there's nowhere to
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hide them. Mean less, they're gonna go totally off the
grid and not work for anybody, not go to any business.
You're gonna you're gonna end up either getting the shot
or forging the paperwork for the shot, which I'm gonna
tell you this too. They're gonna start cracking down on
that a whole lot more as well. Yeah, and we're
gonna play some fauci for you on natural immunity when
we come back. Because he finally got asked the question
(17:32):
that we've been begging for someone to ask, and he
didn't have a good answer. It's probably not going to
surprise you at all. But yes, this decision is going
to be so monumental for so many different people out there.
And remember, Bucket's not only adults having to make decisions.
There's a lot of people out there. For instance, in
Los Angeles, you're twelve year old has to be vaccinated
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back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show taking you into
the weekend. Man, I I tell you what a crazy
week of stories. And I don't know about you, Buck,
but I keep thinking, like, hey, you know it's September.
(19:21):
Maybe things will be a little bit quiet, you know,
maybe they'll be We're gonna be scrambling trying to find
things to talk about. Every day is more chaos. We're
not even in an election year, man. I mean the
meat and potatoes of what we do is political talk
radio here, and I mean between the Biden disastrous Afghan
evacuation and now the mandates, and I mean, you know
(19:42):
there's also just a backdrop to all this. I know
you're gonna tee up this this Fauci thing for us
in a second. I think it is the first time
in eighteen months I've heard him address natural immunity. And
he's essentially going to say Clay and Buck are right,
although he won't say it that way, but that is
what he's saying. And through all this, the Biden in
stration has failed. I mean they could say, oh, but
it's people's fault or whatever. No, we were told that
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we would turn the corner, he would crush the virus,
not the economy. YadA, YadA, YadA. They have not managed
to get us to where they said they would at
this point. All right, we have a lot of people
in media who listen to this show. We understand that
a lot of you are busy and you're prepping, and
you're like, Hey, what's significant out there that we need
to be talking about. Here's what I would request because
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we don't get to go to the White House Press briefing.
Joe Biden's not going to talk to us. We don't
get to talk to doctor Fauci. We get to talk
to all of you, millions of people every day. But
here's what I would request for people out there who
are listening that do get the opportunity to ask these questions.
Ask the same question of doctor Fauci and Jensaki, and
also of Joe Biden and Rachelle Rowlinski, the CDC director.
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I want to give credit here. This is on CNN.
Doctor san Josanja gooped us. So for everybody out there
who's like, oh, you're not a doctor, how dare you
have an opinion on any medical issue whatsoever? You're Kelly grandma,
Which is what Buck and I have been hearing for
eighteen months. We have been slamming this story on the
radio show. Because both of us happened to have COVID,
(21:08):
we recovered from it. There is zero discussion of maybe
one hundred million people out there, pretty decent percentage of
the American population, maybe even higher, that have had COVID
and have recovered from it, And there is Israeli data
which we talked about with all of you that says
that natural immunity that is recovering from COVID is up
to twenty seven times as protective as vaccinated immunity. And
(21:32):
last night, I believe this is doctor Sanjay Gupta was
on with Anderson Cooper and the fouchmeister himself, and I
want you to listen to Sanjay Gupta directly asked Fauci
about natural immunity and listen to Fauci's response play the cut.
There was a study that came out of Israel about
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natural immunity, and basically the headline was that natural immunity
provides a lot of protection, even better than the vaccine alone.
What are people to make of that? So as we
talk about vaccine mandates that are I get calls all
the time people say I've already had COVID, I'm protected,
And now the study says maybe even more protected than
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the vaccine alone. Should they also get the vaccine? How
do you make the case to them? You know, that's
a really good point, son Ja, I don't have a
really firm answer for you on that. That's something that
we're going to have to discuss regarding the durability of
the response. The one thing to paper from Israel didn't
tell you is whether or not as high as the
protection is with natural infection, what's the durability compared to
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the durability of a vaccine. So it is conceivable that
you got infected, you're protected, but you may not be
protected for an indefinite period of time. So I think
that is something that we need to sit down and
discuss seriously, because you're very appropriately pointed out it is
an issue, and there could be an argument for saying
what you said. Oh oh, there could be an argument
(22:58):
about clay verse. Of all, we know he's talking about
durability of natural immunity. We know the durability of the
vaccines is not very long because they have to get boosters,
and that's already been established. So in what world should
we make the assumption that the natural immunity is worse
in terms of duration and durability even than the vaccines
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that we've already found out do not last. How does
it take eighteen months for Fauci to be asked this,
In credit to doctor Sanjay Gupta for asking him on
live television, how does he still not have an answer. Buck,
all he's done for COVID for eighteen months is talk
about COVID, and when he finally gets asked after eighteen
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months about natural immunity, his answer is, I don't have
a really firm answer for you on that. What are
you doing? Fauci. Here's what it is. I'm so angry
about it, I know. But the good news is we're right.
So yeah, everyone listening to us. He's admitting he's like
Clay and Buck as much as they are barbarous evildoers
killing grandparents across America. On the issue, the specific issue
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of the immunity that is conferred after a natural infection,
He's saying, we're correct. Okay, so that's great. Beyond that, though, Clay,
the reason that he's like, I don't have an answer,
I don't really know is because this would create a
hurdle for the policy they are ramming down everyone's throats
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right now. It would create an additional complication and it
would slow down the you know, pushing the lemmings off
the cliff, so to speak, like they want everyone to
do it and the last questions later, you should be
able to go out and get an antibody test. Like
I have done, like you have done, Buck, and if
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you have antibodies naturally from a COVID infection, you should
be able to present that in lieu of a vac
scene and in lieu of needing to constantly get tested,
because the data reflects that natural immunity is better than
vaccinated immunity. Now the CYNC, Buck would say, the reason
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why Fauci is saying I don't have a really firm
answer for you on that is not only because it
complicates the situation and calls into question their vaccine mandates.
It also creates a lot smaller business opportunity for Maderna
and for Fiser, and for Johnson and Johnson, because it
would pull a hundred million Americans or so out of
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the required vaccination pool and also out of the required
test instant booster and testing bottle sting as well. They're
talking about billions and billions of dollars that this answer
could potentially cost drug company. They are talking about test
and trace again, even though at the beginning of the
(25:53):
pandemic when they discussed this, because I would hear people say, oh,
tests and trace is really effective, you know for STDs
for syphilis, and I sit. They're saying, for most of us,
it's a lot easier to give the list of who
we might have had that issue with than who we've
been in an elevator for two minutes with. Right For
most of us, STD test and trace is a very
(26:14):
different thing than what you have for an aerosolized virus.
Test and trace was a joke in this country with
one hundred thousand, with fifty thousand, with ten thousand cases day,
you're not tracing every person who's coming to contact with it.
But they're trying to go back to it. Because Clay,
we've created the biosecurity theater state. Now that's where we
are and it's all coming back together now. I would
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say I asked for media that are listening to us,
that might be covering people in positions of power to
ask about natural immunity. I also want to say this,
We've got a lot of governors, we got a lot
of representatives, we got a lot of senators and their
staff and or their staff that listen to this show
as well. I think that the Rhonda santis Is and
Greg Abbots of the world, big state governors in Texas
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and Florida need to start to talk about natural immunity
as well and say, hey, we need to be testing
to find out how many people have natural immunity. And
if you're going to be saying, hey, get the vaccine
or you get fired, you should certainly be able if
you're me, or if you're you, or if you're one
of the other one hundred million Americans like us who
(27:21):
were covered from COVID out there to say, hey, the
data reflects that I have immunity. I can prove that
I have antibodies. There's no need for me to get
a vaccine, and you shouldn't be forcing me at penalty
of losing my job to do so. So that is
a middle ground that I think is a very fertile
middle ground for a lot of politicians out there to
(27:43):
be occupying as a part of rejecting this idea of
vaccine mandates. I think they are going to be pushed
in that direction. Enough people have kind of figured this out.
People like you and me have been making a lot
of noise about this for quite some time now because
it's so obvious and such an important part of the discussion.
But there are going to be still millions of people,
(28:05):
and a lot of them they're going to this show
who cannot not never had a positive COVID test, cannot
prove and to bodies through you know, through the blood test,
and are still going to be affected by the vaccine Manet.
So it doesn't it doesn't make the problem go away,
doesn't solve everything, But it would be the first time
Clay that they have had that the lockdown or Fauciites
(28:27):
have had to concede to scientific reality and effectively admit
in real time that there's a huge gaping hole in
their plans there that they must address. And let me
just say this too for people out there who may
not be following this perfectly. You I had chicken pox.
There now is a chicken pox vaccine. I have never
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gotten the chicken pox vaccine because I have natural immunity
to chicken pox. I would imagine Buck, you're probably the
same people of our age grew up and got chicken pox,
and now my kids get a chicken pox vaccine, so
they're never going to have it. But I've never been
required as an adult to go get the chicken pox
(29:08):
vaccine because I already have natural immunity to chicken pox.
Just an idea for people to think about in their
own lives. That may be like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah,
and I believe later on chicken pox can reassert itself
as shingles. So even in that case, you can actually
come back later and you know, this is the world
we live in of pathogens and viruses. That's quite a
way to end fix. So let's come back in a second.
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Clay Travis d. Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck. I'm
here with Clay. We are wishing all of you a
very RESTful weekend. There'll be a reflective and contemplative weekend.
And know for a lot of us because of the
twentieth anniversary of nine to eleven, but you still gotta
(31:17):
take care of yourself, get ready for the week ahead,
give some reflection to nine to eleven Memorial tomorrow, and
obviously we've also got some things to just be joyous
or joyful about the return of NFL football. I know,
Clay for a lot of people is just a sign
of life continuing on and life feeling feeling more normal.
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So we will hopefully be talking more about that in
the days and weeks. Life being more normal, that's what
we're all hoping to get toward. We got Dave in Spokane, Washington. Dave,
what's up, Hey, Jents, Well, I got some COVID that's
driving me crazy a bit real quick. On the nine
to eleven Remorance, I was a Marine Corps fifty three
(31:57):
pilot and I just remember walking into the right room
early in the morning. I was in Hawaii and I'm
getting ready to lead a gun run for some section
aircraft to go out and qualify some aircrew and being told, hey,
you're doing your flight cancel I'm like, what do you mean,
Like the whole flight schedules canceled, and then they're like
look at the TV and seeing the aircraft, you know,
replay of it hitting the tower, and everybody in there
is like, dude, this is it. We're going to war. Uh.
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So that's basically my short, real quick memory on that
um on COVID. Though, my wife has been an RN
for thirty years, over thirty years now, she's working at
a hospital here in Washington State and she is not
going to be working after October eighteenth based on what
Insley put in place the governor here, and now the
Biden deal just kind of adds some spice to it.
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But the issue that is being really upsetting up here
is that Insley also made it to where if if
people do not take the shot, he has made it
to where you're you're counted as basically resigning, not being fired.
You're you're selecting to be let go for not getting
the vaccine. And he does that so you don't get
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any wow ape to that earlier caller Jada Ensley. And
he's a climate change lunatic. I know that God a
governor of Washington Clay. I mean this is spiteful. Thank you,
by the way, day for calling it by the lightful
stuff from Ensley, no doubt. This also is a study
that just came out, and again we're trying to give
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you all of the honest truth every single day in
a media environment where that almost doesn't happen. The Telegraph
in England says teenage boys are six times more likely
to suffer from heart problems from the COVID vaccine than
be hospitalized, a major study has found in England. This,
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by the way, is one reason why England, for instance,
not only is not mandating masks in schools Buck, but
they're also not suggesting that kids need to be vaccinated
for COVID because they are not at risk from COVID,
which is one of the small all mercies that we've
had throughout this entire process is that the younger you are,
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the less generally speaking COVID has as an impact. I
had a doctor reach out to me a few weeks
ago just to tell me that FYI myocarditis. To really
understand sometimes what kind of damage has been done can
take a while, which is really disconcerting to because that's
being one of the things that's come out about this.
If it's unnecessary, we don't need to put things in kids' bodies, right,
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I mean, that's the general perspective, and that's why so
many parents are struggling with this. Dave and Wilson, North Carolina. Dave,
what do you got? I'm just going to relate my
story about ninety eleven. I was a purchasing thats the
dier for Midway Airlines in Raleigh where we were based
out of Morrisville, which is at the airport, and I
had gone down to flots to talk to a pilot
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who was in fly at the time to see if
his airplane was okay. And the first plane hit the
tower and everybody stood there for a few seconds in disbelief,
and then it was like an explosion off. Okay, Now
we have to find all of our airplanes, because we
had sixty six airplanes in the air at that time.
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So a bunch of us started grabbing our telephones. We
had a bank of phones, and all you had to
do was dial the tell number the aircraft and you
could talk to the pilots just like we're talking around
And so we had to locate each one of our pilots. Well,
when the second one hit. We were all standing there
looking at the TV and we just kind of silently
(35:33):
looked at one another, and it was the eerious thing.
You can imagine. The panic and bewilderment to just went
over everybody's face because now we have all these people
in the air, We've got our aircraft in the air,
and now we've got to get them on the ground.
Because the FAA guys said come in and locked us down,
(35:58):
basically sequestered us, and we're just staying there trying to
locate our people in a panic. And then they gave
us the ultimatum of get your planes on the ground
within I believe it was thirty minutes. Oh, we will
take them out. They didn't say we might, we could,
They said we will take them out put them on
the ground. Wow. Wow, Dave, thank you for sharing that.
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Rememberance from nine to eleven ends. If we could do
a whole show just hearing from folks across the country.
Please everyone have a RESTful and reflective weekend. It is
the twentieth anniversary nine eleven tomorrow. Spend some time with
loved one, Spend some time with people who matter to you,
and rest up. And Clay and I'll be back with
you on Monday, no doubt. Should be a lot of
(36:40):
fun next week. Craziness continues, not going away. Have a
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