September 14, 2021 • 36 mins
Blockbuster news: Did Gen. Milley commit treason? General Milley secretly pledged to warn Chinese Communist Party if Trump planned a strike. Bob Woodward: “Milley was overseeing the mobilization of America's national security state without the knowledge of the American people or the rest of the world.” Trump was impeached for less. Callers weigh in on General Milley.
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We're gonna get into a little bit more of the
blinkin testimony, just because we can't allow it to go
completely without response. That the Democrats are not trying to
pretend that what Biden did was somehow a good thing
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and well executed. That's the big that's the big hole
in this well executed withdrawal from Afghanistan, which is simply absurd,
and Tony Blinkin is really the classic lib version of
a diplomat, I mean, a guy who you just feel
like he's feckless, ineffectual, but has a fancy resume, and
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so we're all supposed to bow before him and listen
to his genius, even though there's nothing impressive about this
guy whatsoever. But before we get back into all that,
and also some more thoughts on the COVID situation as
it is playing out across the country right now. Oh,
and the California recall, which Clay's fired up. He's fired
up because he feels like there's some data that we'll
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be able to pull apart here that'll show broader, broader
trend we'll see, right, but there could be data that
shows broader trends of California as a place that is
a harbinger of things to come for the Democrat Party
in the midterms. Maybe maybe we'll get into that. But
Clay first off in the Washington Post right now today,
they're big story top General was so fearful Trump might
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spark war that he made secret calls to his Chinese counterpart.
This is in the book Peril by Bob Woodward and
Robert Costa says that General Mark Milly, we all know him, right,
Chairman the Joint chiefs of Staff. Who's the guy that
gave up bogram, the guy who said reading white fragility
in the military is you know, a good idea? We
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have a diverse reading list or something like that. He said.
He said that he called this Chinese counterpart before the
election and after January sixth to avert a war with China.
All right, let me just just a little of the
detail here, clay, and then we got this is this
is pretty big stuff because it goes to a lot
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of other things we saw playing out both under the
Trump administration at the end and now still with the
by administration. Twice in the five months of the Trump administration,
the country's top military officer was so fearful the president's
actions might spark a war with China that he moved
to urgently avert conflict, and a pair of secret phone calls,
General Mark Milly the Chamber of the JCFS JCS assures
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Chinese counterpart of the People's Liberation Army that the United
States would not strike. One call took place on October thirtieth,
twenty twenty four, days before the election, that I'd ceeded
President Trump the other on January eighth, twenty twenty one,
two days after the Capitol siege carried out by his supporters,
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Milly went so far as to pledge he would alert
his counterpart in the event of a US attack, stressing
the rapport they'd established through a back channel. General Lee,
you and I have known each other for five years.
If we're going to attack, I'm going to call you
ahead of time. It's not going to be a surprise, Clay.
That is not a call the Chairman of the Joint
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Chiefs of Staff of the United States be making. Isn't
that treason? I mean, when you really think about it,
if we have a democratically elected president who is the
commander in chief and is entrusted with this is why
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we have a civilian who is in charge of the
military and makes choices like that, wouldn't it be a
form I'm just asking. I'm not an expert on You're
better plugged into the command structure and the organization of
the United States bureaucracy beneath the commander in chief than
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I would. But strictly from the perspective of top down management.
If I am the commander in chief and I believe
that there is something that China is doing that our
country needs to respond to, wouldn't it be a form
of treason for one of the top military officers in
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our country to notify a foreign adversary before we were
taking action against them in direct contravention of the orders
of the President of the United States. McClay, this is outrageous,
I mean, but I mean, isn't that a form I mean,
I'm just saying, like, if, like, if you, if you
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are consulting with the foreign adversary and thereby creating obstacles
to what the President of the United States is ordering,
then that to me seems like a form of espionage
or treason that would be punishable under American law. Treason
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would be giving aid and comfort to the enemy under
a technical federal statutory definition, right, So you'd have to
argue that China was an enemy combatant in this. I mean,
if we're really going to break this down, I think
that that's probably probably where that analysis would go. It
certainly feels trees of this. It certainly feels like a
betrayal of the trust put in that person, and I
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think you could certainly argue that it really amounts to
a preparation for a mutiny of sorts against the commander
in chief, whereby this individual, as the chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, was willing to cut out the
actual commander in chief of our country of the decision
making process and to give advanced warning to the church.
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I this is like, I don't understand how this guy,
if this story is true, whether you're a Democrat or
a Republican or an independent, I don't understand how you
can justify him being in office in any I could
tell you what the Democrats if Donald Trump had done
this and he never did anything even remotely like this.
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Although they used the word treason and trader for Trump
all the time over the Russia lies, if this were
a Donald Trump involved story, it would be the President
committed conspiracy to commit treason. That's what they would say,
that these were the steps, these were the affirmative acts
of a treasonous plot. But because of course it was
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against Trump, they're going to say, oh, you know, he
was just defending the republic and all the rest of
it but Clay, there were very real implications, and this
is something that I think everyone does need to keep
in mind and we need to remind each other of this.
There were very real implications from the Democratic line corporate
media pretending for four years that Donald Trump was not
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of sound mind, that Donald Trump could start a war
with some foreign country. I mean, not even just your
North Korea or China, you know, Canada. I mean that
Donald Trump was some reckless loose cannon that narrative. People
in positions of authority in the government read the bullcrap
in the New York Times and the Washington Post every day.
They're thinking is influenced by it. And so the lies
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that the media apparatus is willing to tell to take
Trump down in this case, I think played out with
unbelievable consequence. Well, let's just think about this for a minute.
I mean, and again, I'm this news has just come out, right,
so we're breaking it down in real time. He had
to Millie or someone that he was close to, had
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to be Bob Woodward's source here. So he is bragging
to Bob Woodward about not being willing to follow the
direction of his direct superior. The democratically elected president of
the United States, which is how military coups end up
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occurring in other countries. Oh yeah. The coup plotters and
executors always say they're doing it for the benefit of
the trench. That they always think they're the heroes. That
at this point, that is why we specifically put a
democratically elected official above the military, because there's always been
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the threat read a history book for once of a
highly leveraged political general deciding to use his military to
execute a coup and take over a country. It still
happens all the time today, but it has been the
number one way I would say, you'd probably agree as
somebody who studied history the number one way that governments
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lose their power is typically the military refuses to accede
to the directives of the political figure. Oh yeah. Most
most coups actually come from the internal circle of the
most powerful autun the actual regime. There's been I've read
academic studies on this, and this has been this has
been looked at over time and Clay with General Millie
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here saying this, you're right, he's playing to the trumped
arrangement syndrome Democrat Party, or rather by doing this, he
thought he'd be a hero in their eyes at this
ever came to light. But let's think about what he's
really talking about here. He believed that Trump was just
going to start a war with China for no reason.
This guy is in charge of the United States military
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at a very senior level, and he really thought that
this is this is deranged. I mean, this is absurd,
it's it's deeply and by the way, he still has
the job. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying
Buck this and he not only is this story out there,
but it's like he's bragging about what he did intentionally
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to Woodward and or whoever he told this story to,
whether it was Bob Woodword directly, or whether it was
someone else in his circle who he told to talk
to Bob Woodward. In other words, I don't think a
story like this, Buck gets out accidentally. He had to
acquiesce to it being told. So it's either him or
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somebody in his circle of power that was telling this story.
And again I just come back to like, strip aside,
who the president is, strip aside, who the country that
we are in conflict with in some way is if
you heard that a top general had been having back
channel conversations in order to circumvent the leadership of the
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democratically elected president of the United States. That is flagrantly
unconstitutional behavior as a military official on his part. And
remember we got Jnald Trump impeached because of a public
phone call that he had with the president of the
Ukraine that people said was inappropriate. We're talking about a general,
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someone who is not elected to a position, having a
secret phone call with the country that I think it's
fair to say multiple multiple secret phone calls and conversations
with the country that I think almost every single person
out there listening to us right now would argue is
the biggest enemy of the United Question the world. It's tiny,
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real challenge to the United States. Clay, and this also
comes from, first of all, the Democrats who read this story.
The Washington Post publishes this. It's obviously in the Woodwork book,
so it's not their scoop, but it's yeah, they're they're
they're giving a lot of I mean, there's a very
close relationship with Woodword for obvious reasons in the Post,
and they're giving a big megaphone to this. Democrats think
this is great. I mean, remember Democrats got enthusiastic excited
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about using the twenty fifth Amendment to remove Trump. They
love that story. That was something that would get them excited, right.
Get They do not care about the constitution, the chain
of command, our institutions of government. It's all a game
to them in order to get what they want and
have their people in power. Because you cannot look at
this and come away thinking anything other than this is reckless.
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It undermines the commander chief, I mean war with China.
What I'm talking about some peace negotiation with some country
we could give a crap about. At the end of
the day. This is China. It feels like espionage to me.
It feels like treason. It feels like actual collusion with
China as opposed to the bullcrap version of Russia collusion
that we had. And it totally undermines the entire purpose
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of having a civilian in charge of our armed people.
We'll come back into more of this. Plus the blinkin
testimony going on a Capitol hill a Secretary of State.
How is the Afghanistan thing such a debacle? I don't know.
I went to Harvard. I'm fancy. I mean that's you know,
how's this guy still in position of power at all? Well,
what I wanted to ask you, I don't know if
you talk about Blinking or MILLI it works for both.
I would I think, in particular, I would argue that
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Millie's job security as chairman of the j JCS under
Biden is strengthened by this story. I think he's a
true anti Trump believer now and so he's even less
likely to get pushed out. That's what I would say.
That's what I would argue. At least we'll come back
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Clay Travis buck Sexton block Buck stir News in many
ways I think associated with this claim that General Millie
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was having behind the scenes conversations with his Chinese counterparts,
essentially letting them know either I'm not going to execute
the orders that are given to me by the democratically
elected President of the United States, Donald Trump, or I'm
going to give you a heads up before we take
military action. And Buck and I are having the discussion
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in the last segment again, as this news is breaking,
and my immediate read on it is this is treason,
this is espionage, and so I want to take it
out of the current Donald Trump dynamics and let's just
go to history. Okay, Let's pretend that we had a
really good relationship with Japan in early December or late
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November of nineteen forty one, and we got a secret
phone call from a Japanese military member and he said, here,
Hito has lost his mind. Over here in Japan. He's
enthralled with the Axis powers. He and Hitler are having
secret communications, and I want to let you know something.
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I think he's about to launch an unprovoked attack against
you in the United States, and it's going to happen.
I believe at Pearl Harbor, your Pacific military base, what
we would like to have that information, and certainly it
would be helpful to us. Would that be treason in
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your mind on behalf of the Japanese general who was
giving that information to his American counterpart in advance and
in direct opposition to the military planning of Japan. I
think almost all of you out there listening right now
would say, man, that guy in Japan would be committing
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treason against his country and would certainly be guilty of espionage.
I'm using a historical analogy outside of the United States
because I think a lot of times Donald Trump himself
is so freighted, Buck with emotional responses that it's hard
for people to think rationally. But when I hear that
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report from Bob Woodward, I immediately think this is treason.
This is espionage. And not only that Millie is bragging
about it. Bragging about it, Buck two eight eight two.
I would like to hear from military out there that
might have an opinion about this in terms of chain
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it was Trump's fault, you see, It's always so convenient,
isn't it. Anything goes wrong, it's Trump's fault in Afghanistan
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at the border. For a while, they were trying that one.
Whatever it may be, they'll trot out that it's Trump's fault,
or they'll use Trump and welcome back to Clay and
Buck show. This is Buck Clay and I are just
rolling through today. We got so much to talk to
you about. As always, and they use Trump as the
ultimate distraction. There's always an opportunity, there's always a means
for them to say, oh but the insurrection, or oh
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but Russia collusion or whatever it may be. What they
don't want is for the American people to focus in
and pass their judgment on the stupidity, the arrogance, and
just the disaster that is defining the Biden presidency so far.
You see this with the way they're handling COVID. You
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see this with the way they handle the economy, The
lawlessness at our southern border, our de facto open border,
the continued violence in major cities. They even talk today
about what's going on in Minneapolis post the George Floyd incident.
We will talk about it. We should talk about it,
because it's just gotten worse for everybody. Less law enforcement,
more crime, more misery. That's Democrats think that somehow is progress.
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You know, we should suffer as a country, our cities
should suffer. But people that are working class of course,
and disproportionately minorities who are working class suffer in our
cities as a result of the demonization of police. You see,
they're never somehow responsible for the bad things that happen.
The Democrat apparatus of control, the apparatics who run around
on TV telling you this is the way it has
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to be. If you disagree, you're racist. If you disagree,
you're a war monger, or whatever the case may be.
You don't care about old people dying from COVID. So
many things they throw out there. It's all rhetoric. And
now we have the General Millie episode after we had
been for four years told constantly Clay that Trump was
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a threat to our government institutions. That was the line.
It was always Trump is undermining our institutions. Was it
very vague? What does that even mean? And why were
there never any specifics saying mean things to CNN journalists.
Is not undermining our government, but they acted like it was.
And now we see once again they tried the quasi
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legal coup of the Muller probe. They tried the quasi
legal coup of the twenty fifth Amendment, pretending Rump was crazy,
when really they just disagreed with them. Unfortunately, they couldn't
pull that one off. And now we find yet another instance,
and we're gonna get all these lectures. On January sixth,
the worst thing ever, so scary, almost overthrew the government.
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The most powerful military officer in uniform in the country
having conversations with our greatest adversary about how he will
go against the will of the commander in chief. The
talk was that Trump was going to use the military
to overthrow democracy in the United States. The reality, based
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on this Bob Woodward reporting, is that the military was
going to overthrow Donald Trump if they needed to, and
they weren't going to accede to their constitutional obligations to
allow the commander in chief to make decisions with the military.
And again this goes to the essence of what our
framers believed based on looking at history, and by the way,
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it was a present and reality history that they were
living in. Napoleon not much time after our own revolution,
like many military generals before, had used the military to
stay j coup in France. This was the fear for
a long time in America that at some point a
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powerful ruler who had military background would use the military
to overthrow existing civilian government. The reason why our commander
in chief is a civilian, even though he may have
had military experience, is expressly to make it clear that
the military serves at the behest and the request and
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the command of the commander in chief. And what General
Millie is bragging about in this Woodward book is directly
contravening potentially the orders that are given to him by
his superior which is the exact opposite. Look, you had
all these Democrats excited that the only person to lose
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their job over the Afghanistan debacle was the lieutenant colonel
who came out and said, this is a debacle. Our
military leaders failed us. He lost his job because he
spoke outside the chain of command in a public fashion
in his uniform. And look at what they were willing
to take action against, and I mean real action. When
Trump was president, they had the whole Russia collusion, which
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was a fabrication. It was a lie. If that was
a conspiracy theory made real as a weapon in politics
by the media, the intelligence apparatus, which fortunately I know
too well having come from that world, and the Democrat
Party all working together. The Hillary paid for dossier Russia Gate,
all of it together, and then it was we need
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to impeach Trump because of conversations he had in the
framework of dealing with the publication real like public buck.
This is like they had transcripts of these. It is
not like a hidden conversation like Millie's. Well, no, but
I'm talking about the ten instances of possible corruption that
they put in the Muller Report first and foremost, where
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nothing actually happened, but it was just responses or people
testifying that there was some kind of a conversation that
they have involved interfering with a government process, essentially interfering
the investigation of Donald Trump himself, right that he was
intervening in a way that was improper. He didn't actually intervene,
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didn't actually fire Molle, didn't do any of these things.
They impeached him Clay for that, and then to your point,
they impeached him again like the sociopaths that run the
Democrat Party are for a conversation about Hunter Biden corruption
in Ukraine. That obviously was corruption. He was getting special
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treatment because his daddy was VP, and yet they went
after him and they're going to look at this story
with Millie now and say not only Clay, is it
not treason, which is what you've been saying. And I
think you can certainly, I would say conspiracy to commit
treason might be what you could get away within a
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court on this. They're gonna say he's a patriot, he's
a hero for stepping out in this way. That's the
same way that Afghanistan's a huge success, Clay. Don't you
see the pattern? Yeah, and this is where some people
get mad. But I look at this from a legal perspective,
and I want to apply the same precedence so that
whatever rule we apply now makes sense in the years ahead.
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And we're gonna take a couple of your calls here
or a second, but just think about this for a minute,
whether or not you like Joe Biden. If Joe Biden
decided to undertake a military action and the head of
his military said, no, I refuse to do that, and
I'm going to call our enemy and I'm going to
tell them what we are potentially going to do. So
it doesn't work like that's not right. The only case
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could be okay would be if it was if it
was in response to a clearly unlawful order under UCMJ.
That's it. But there was no order here. This was
a make believe back channel. Oh, I'll get you the
information ahead of time because crazy, you know, crazy Orange
man bad might start a war with you guys. That
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that's not a there's no illegal order too, that's just
defying the will of the commander in chief in advance.
That's just saying that I'm good at espionage to me,
and it's treason at the most espionage and minimal. And
and to your point, you can always get somebody for
a conspiracy. That's what we always said in criminal law
back in the day. We'll come back because we got
we got a bunch of veterans. Because I want to
hear from you. What what how can your copy? How
can you not get court martialed for this? If this
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is true? I wonder, by the way, if Millie what
he's gonna say about this. He hasn't been asked yet.
I'm wondering if he's gonna say, Oh, I can't speak
about it at Oh, that's not true. We'll see, you know.
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Travis buck Sexton show. We will be talking with you
a great deal about the California recall vote which is
going on today. I'm sure that it will lead our
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results tomorrow. Encourage all of you listening to us in
California to vote against, obviously the awful leadership of Gavin Newsom.
We will see what the impact is. If you look
at odds markets overseas, it appears that Gavin Newsom is
going to survive the recall. They've spent almost one hundred
million dollars trying to avoid him being recalled. But we
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will see what happens there. We have been talking about
the I would say blockbuster revelation that General Millie may
have been calling China to let them know an advance
that he would not be executing the orders of Donald
Trump in the event that Trump decided that he needed
to do something of a military nature against China. And
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we asked if you would call in if you are
a military veteran, as we have talked about espionage, treason
and related conspiracy charges that might be afoot here based
on this report, and what your reaction is as a
military veteran. Mike and Kentucky is up first. Mike, what
you got for us. Hey, guys, how you're doing. Great job.
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By the way, thank you. I was in the I
was in the Multinational Force observers attached. That was an
infantry scout from nineteen delta tanker scout. People call us that.
But if I would have even mentioned my training on
a toe and Dragon missile, or that I could make
a clay more mine on my own with gunpowder, I
would have been sent to Leavenworth. So what's this guy doing?
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So you agree it's a treasonable treasonous act and or
espionage from your perspective, let listen, the enemy is within.
I'm deep I am deeply concerned with our nation, and
I pray for our troops and in our emergency to
now all those guys that are out there on the
front line, Our nurses, our doctors, all these people are
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doing such a wonderful job and they are the real
heroes that opt to people in DC. Mike, thanks so much,
man for calling in from Kentucky. Appreciated. Joe in Texas
has some strong thoughts on this. What's up Joe, Hey,
Hey doing sir? I'm go for a veteran and actually
was a military intelligence alice and one of the things
people got to realize. There's overt and covert intelligence, a
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lot of what intelligence. It's like a snapshot of pictures,
so things like morale the enemy, how people are thinking.
We inbed CIA officers to work jobs in foreign countries
just to get the flavor of the population on how
how they feel about things. What could have happened is
he could have actually caused the war because now you
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I guarantee you this general whoever he was talking to,
file a report, and the head guy who there saw it.
Everybody over there and the intelligence saw it. And what
if they what if that spot over there goes, well,
this is our chance to take Taiwan. If nothing else,
they're obviously messed up inside their highest ranks. Well maybe
we can get a hold of it before they can react.
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This could have caused the war. Not only is it treason,
but it was intentional. It also strikes to me as
tremendously arrogant, as if Millie alone, speaking to his counterpart,
could be the one that stopped a war between the
US and China happening. Really really think about that for
a second. Oh they're gonna believe, he says, don't worry.
The attack is not coming, and they think it's coming,
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they're gonna believe, they're gonna take his word for it.
I mean, it's just interesting. I feel like there's a
lot of this guy's got a very high by the way,
great call, Joe, thank you so much. This guy's got
a lot of the internal dissension aspect here is big though.
I mean, think about it for negotiations or anything else.
It's like, Hey, the American military doesn't even trust their commander,
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by the way, that would normally be very like that.
That's the kind of information. It's high level thinking, very classified. Yeah,
knowing what like the Chinese People's Liberation Army leadership thinks
what their red lines are. That actually can often mean
depends on how the information is received, but that could
be very sensitive information in classified channels, depending And he's
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just I mean, it's clay. It's just another one of
these mooing it's mind blowing. Patrick in Missouri, what do
you think, good job, guys, Millie's an embarrassment. Uh. The
Armed Services Committee needs to call him to their office,
to their chambers. My next phone call is to Josh
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Holly and mil Blunt. All Missouri veterans need to call
those two and mandate that this happened. We're not even talking,
by the way, about his incredible failures in Afghanistan either, Buck,
I mean, this guy has a litany of failures. At
this point, we're talking about potential trees and that we
didn't even know about beforehand. Patrick, Look, thank you so
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much for calling in. And you know, this is where
we start to see people lose one talking about faith
in our institutions. Where it was told that, you know,
Trump was eroding faith in our institutions. Grotesque incompetence from
people who think they're more important than they are but
don't want to be held accountable for what they do
wrong at the top level of government agencies and institutions.
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That undermines faith in the government. That makes people think, huh,
maybe I shouldn't trust these people. I mean, I'm gonna
tell you, whenever this whole COVID madness ends, I'm never
gonna think of the CDC the same way. And I
think for a lot of people, I don't. I used
to work closely with FBI, folks. I can't think of
FBI the same way. After Muller, the probe and who's
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the lanky unself conscious weirdo, you know Toomy thank you. Yes, yeah,
you know, I'm never gonna be got it. You're like, oh, yeah,
the unselfconscious weirdo who's like taking photos by the lake
and thinking that he's you know, yeah, some like great
roman orator in general because he's, you know, all of
a sudden orange Man bad. He was willing to worship
at the throne of Orange Man until he wasn't going
(35:05):
to be FBI director anymore. Then he was a hero
for the Republic, like so many of the others. Fasil.
We got somebody who's calling in who's from Afghanistan originally Fasil.
What's up in Virginia. Hey, thank you for taking my call.
My name is Sisile hot Mouth. I'm a US Army
war veteran. I think your service. Thank you. I moved
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to the US in two thousand and six. I joined
the Army. I went back to Afghanistan. I served in
the uniform. I supported the Commander of Nature Training Mission Afghanistan.
I supported the director for operations that I have. I
also supported the Commander of Task Wars Transparency. So I
supported most of the genant officers at a Pausil we
have forty five seconds, but keep going, Roger. That and
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the reason why I'm calling today is that as as
as the mainstream media is pivoting away from what's happening
in Afghanistan, think so not real the world in Afghanistan.
People like me who still have family in Afghanistan, they're
trying to get him out, but the system is somehow
not supporting. I have tried to get my family out
of Afghanistan. Most of my previous commanders have tried to
(36:13):
get him out. When we have failed, I have spent
hours trying to get a hold of people at the USCIS.
They're not able to help. And I'm listening to their
Secretary of State trying to portray as a thing so
really doing world in Afghanistan. It's not, and he's lying,
and you know he's lying. Fathers, Well, thank you for
calling it. I'm sorry, we gotta cut of short. We're
at a show though today we'll talk more about Afghanistan tomorrow.
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We're gonna get into a little bit more of the
blinkin testimony, just because we can't allow it to go
completely without response. That the Democrats are not trying to
pretend that what Biden did was somehow a good thing
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and well executed. That's the big that's the big hole
in this well executed withdrawal from Afghanistan, which is simply absurd,
and Tony Blinkin is really the classic lib version of
a diplomat, I mean, a guy who you just feel
like he's feckless, ineffectual, but has a fancy resume, and
(01:27):
so we're all supposed to bow before him and listen
to his genius, even though there's nothing impressive about this
guy whatsoever. But before we get back into all that,
and also some more thoughts on the COVID situation as
it is playing out across the country right now. Oh,
and the California recall, which Clay's fired up. He's fired
up because he feels like there's some data that we'll
(01:47):
be able to pull apart here that'll show broader, broader
trend we'll see, right, but there could be data that
shows broader trends of California as a place that is
a harbinger of things to come for the Democrat Party
in the midterms. Maybe maybe we'll get into that. But
Clay first off in the Washington Post right now today,
they're big story top General was so fearful Trump might
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spark war that he made secret calls to his Chinese counterpart.
This is in the book Peril by Bob Woodward and
Robert Costa says that General Mark Milly, we all know him, right,
Chairman the Joint chiefs of Staff. Who's the guy that
gave up bogram, the guy who said reading white fragility
in the military is you know, a good idea? We
(02:32):
have a diverse reading list or something like that. He said.
He said that he called this Chinese counterpart before the
election and after January sixth to avert a war with China.
All right, let me just just a little of the
detail here, clay, and then we got this is this
is pretty big stuff because it goes to a lot
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of other things we saw playing out both under the
Trump administration at the end and now still with the
by administration. Twice in the five months of the Trump administration,
the country's top military officer was so fearful the president's
actions might spark a war with China that he moved
to urgently avert conflict, and a pair of secret phone calls,
General Mark Milly the Chamber of the JCFS JCS assures
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Chinese counterpart of the People's Liberation Army that the United
States would not strike. One call took place on October thirtieth,
twenty twenty four, days before the election, that I'd ceeded
President Trump the other on January eighth, twenty twenty one,
two days after the Capitol siege carried out by his supporters,
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Milly went so far as to pledge he would alert
his counterpart in the event of a US attack, stressing
the rapport they'd established through a back channel. General Lee,
you and I have known each other for five years.
If we're going to attack, I'm going to call you
ahead of time. It's not going to be a surprise, Clay.
That is not a call the Chairman of the Joint
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Chiefs of Staff of the United States be making. Isn't
that treason? I mean, when you really think about it,
if we have a democratically elected president who is the
commander in chief and is entrusted with this is why
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we have a civilian who is in charge of the
military and makes choices like that, wouldn't it be a
form I'm just asking. I'm not an expert on You're
better plugged into the command structure and the organization of
the United States bureaucracy beneath the commander in chief than
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I would. But strictly from the perspective of top down management.
If I am the commander in chief and I believe
that there is something that China is doing that our
country needs to respond to, wouldn't it be a form
of treason for one of the top military officers in
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our country to notify a foreign adversary before we were
taking action against them in direct contravention of the orders
of the President of the United States. McClay, this is outrageous,
I mean, but I mean, isn't that a form I mean,
I'm just saying, like, if, like, if you, if you
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are consulting with the foreign adversary and thereby creating obstacles
to what the President of the United States is ordering,
then that to me seems like a form of espionage
or treason that would be punishable under American law. Treason
(05:46):
would be giving aid and comfort to the enemy under
a technical federal statutory definition, right, So you'd have to
argue that China was an enemy combatant in this. I mean,
if we're really going to break this down, I think
that that's probably probably where that analysis would go. It
certainly feels trees of this. It certainly feels like a
betrayal of the trust put in that person, and I
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think you could certainly argue that it really amounts to
a preparation for a mutiny of sorts against the commander
in chief, whereby this individual, as the chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, was willing to cut out the
actual commander in chief of our country of the decision
making process and to give advanced warning to the church.
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I this is like, I don't understand how this guy,
if this story is true, whether you're a Democrat or
a Republican or an independent, I don't understand how you
can justify him being in office in any I could
tell you what the Democrats if Donald Trump had done
this and he never did anything even remotely like this.
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Although they used the word treason and trader for Trump
all the time over the Russia lies, if this were
a Donald Trump involved story, it would be the President
committed conspiracy to commit treason. That's what they would say,
that these were the steps, these were the affirmative acts
of a treasonous plot. But because of course it was
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against Trump, they're going to say, oh, you know, he
was just defending the republic and all the rest of
it but Clay, there were very real implications, and this
is something that I think everyone does need to keep
in mind and we need to remind each other of this.
There were very real implications from the Democratic line corporate
media pretending for four years that Donald Trump was not
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of sound mind, that Donald Trump could start a war
with some foreign country. I mean, not even just your
North Korea or China, you know, Canada. I mean that
Donald Trump was some reckless loose cannon that narrative. People
in positions of authority in the government read the bullcrap
in the New York Times and the Washington Post every day.
They're thinking is influenced by it. And so the lies
(08:00):
that the media apparatus is willing to tell to take
Trump down in this case, I think played out with
unbelievable consequence. Well, let's just think about this for a minute.
I mean, and again, I'm this news has just come out, right,
so we're breaking it down in real time. He had
to Millie or someone that he was close to, had
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to be Bob Woodward's source here. So he is bragging
to Bob Woodward about not being willing to follow the
direction of his direct superior. The democratically elected president of
the United States, which is how military coups end up
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occurring in other countries. Oh yeah. The coup plotters and
executors always say they're doing it for the benefit of
the trench. That they always think they're the heroes. That
at this point, that is why we specifically put a
democratically elected official above the military, because there's always been
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the threat read a history book for once of a
highly leveraged political general deciding to use his military to
execute a coup and take over a country. It still
happens all the time today, but it has been the
number one way I would say, you'd probably agree as
somebody who studied history the number one way that governments
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lose their power is typically the military refuses to accede
to the directives of the political figure. Oh yeah. Most
most coups actually come from the internal circle of the
most powerful autun the actual regime. There's been I've read
academic studies on this, and this has been this has
been looked at over time and Clay with General Millie
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here saying this, you're right, he's playing to the trumped
arrangement syndrome Democrat Party, or rather by doing this, he
thought he'd be a hero in their eyes at this
ever came to light. But let's think about what he's
really talking about here. He believed that Trump was just
going to start a war with China for no reason.
This guy is in charge of the United States military
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at a very senior level, and he really thought that
this is this is deranged. I mean, this is absurd,
it's it's deeply and by the way, he still has
the job. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying
Buck this and he not only is this story out there,
but it's like he's bragging about what he did intentionally
(10:35):
to Woodward and or whoever he told this story to,
whether it was Bob Woodword directly, or whether it was
someone else in his circle who he told to talk
to Bob Woodward. In other words, I don't think a
story like this, Buck gets out accidentally. He had to
acquiesce to it being told. So it's either him or
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somebody in his circle of power that was telling this story.
And again I just come back to like, strip aside,
who the president is, strip aside, who the country that
we are in conflict with in some way is if
you heard that a top general had been having back
channel conversations in order to circumvent the leadership of the
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democratically elected president of the United States. That is flagrantly
unconstitutional behavior as a military official on his part. And
remember we got Jnald Trump impeached because of a public
phone call that he had with the president of the
Ukraine that people said was inappropriate. We're talking about a general,
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someone who is not elected to a position, having a
secret phone call with the country that I think it's
fair to say multiple multiple secret phone calls and conversations
with the country that I think almost every single person
out there listening to us right now would argue is
the biggest enemy of the United Question the world. It's tiny,
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real challenge to the United States. Clay, and this also
comes from, first of all, the Democrats who read this story.
The Washington Post publishes this. It's obviously in the Woodwork book,
so it's not their scoop, but it's yeah, they're they're
they're giving a lot of I mean, there's a very
close relationship with Woodword for obvious reasons in the Post,
and they're giving a big megaphone to this. Democrats think
this is great. I mean, remember Democrats got enthusiastic excited
(12:29):
about using the twenty fifth Amendment to remove Trump. They
love that story. That was something that would get them excited, right.
Get They do not care about the constitution, the chain
of command, our institutions of government. It's all a game
to them in order to get what they want and
have their people in power. Because you cannot look at
this and come away thinking anything other than this is reckless.
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It undermines the commander chief, I mean war with China.
What I'm talking about some peace negotiation with some country
we could give a crap about. At the end of
the day. This is China. It feels like espionage to me.
It feels like treason. It feels like actual collusion with
China as opposed to the bullcrap version of Russia collusion
that we had. And it totally undermines the entire purpose
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of having a civilian in charge of our armed people.
We'll come back into more of this. Plus the blinkin
testimony going on a Capitol hill a Secretary of State.
How is the Afghanistan thing such a debacle? I don't know.
I went to Harvard. I'm fancy. I mean that's you know,
how's this guy still in position of power at all? Well,
what I wanted to ask you, I don't know if
you talk about Blinking or MILLI it works for both.
I would I think, in particular, I would argue that
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Millie's job security as chairman of the j JCS under
Biden is strengthened by this story. I think he's a
true anti Trump believer now and so he's even less
likely to get pushed out. That's what I would say.
That's what I would argue. At least we'll come back
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Clay Travis buck Sexton block Buck stir News in many
ways I think associated with this claim that General Millie
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was having behind the scenes conversations with his Chinese counterparts,
essentially letting them know either I'm not going to execute
the orders that are given to me by the democratically
elected President of the United States, Donald Trump, or I'm
going to give you a heads up before we take
military action. And Buck and I are having the discussion
(15:28):
in the last segment again, as this news is breaking,
and my immediate read on it is this is treason,
this is espionage, and so I want to take it
out of the current Donald Trump dynamics and let's just
go to history. Okay, Let's pretend that we had a
really good relationship with Japan in early December or late
(15:54):
November of nineteen forty one, and we got a secret
phone call from a Japanese military member and he said, here,
Hito has lost his mind. Over here in Japan. He's
enthralled with the Axis powers. He and Hitler are having
secret communications, and I want to let you know something.
(16:17):
I think he's about to launch an unprovoked attack against
you in the United States, and it's going to happen.
I believe at Pearl Harbor, your Pacific military base, what
we would like to have that information, and certainly it
would be helpful to us. Would that be treason in
(16:39):
your mind on behalf of the Japanese general who was
giving that information to his American counterpart in advance and
in direct opposition to the military planning of Japan. I
think almost all of you out there listening right now
would say, man, that guy in Japan would be committing
(17:01):
treason against his country and would certainly be guilty of espionage.
I'm using a historical analogy outside of the United States
because I think a lot of times Donald Trump himself
is so freighted, Buck with emotional responses that it's hard
for people to think rationally. But when I hear that
(17:23):
report from Bob Woodward, I immediately think this is treason.
This is espionage. And not only that Millie is bragging
about it. Bragging about it, Buck two eight eight two.
I would like to hear from military out there that
might have an opinion about this in terms of chain
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Fiden took office in January, he inherited agreement that his
predecessor had reached for the Taliban to remove all remanding
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forces from Afghanistan by May first of this year. In return,
the Taliban agreed to stop attacking US and partner forces
to retrain and from threatening Afghanistan's major cities, but the
Taliban continuing a relentless march on remote outposts, on checkpoints,
on villages, districts, as well as the major roles connecting.
By January twenty twenty one, the Taliban was in the
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strongest military position it has been in since nine eleven.
As a result. On taking office, President Biden immediately faced
the choice between ending the war or escalat Okay, So
it was Trump's fault, you see, It's always so convenient,
isn't it. Anything goes wrong, it's Trump's fault in Afghanistan
(19:35):
at the border. For a while, they were trying that one.
Whatever it may be, they'll trot out that it's Trump's fault,
or they'll use Trump and welcome back to Clay and
Buck show. This is Buck Clay and I are just
rolling through today. We got so much to talk to
you about. As always, and they use Trump as the
ultimate distraction. There's always an opportunity, there's always a means
for them to say, oh but the insurrection, or oh
(19:58):
but Russia collusion or whatever it may be. What they
don't want is for the American people to focus in
and pass their judgment on the stupidity, the arrogance, and
just the disaster that is defining the Biden presidency so far.
You see this with the way they're handling COVID. You
(20:20):
see this with the way they handle the economy, The
lawlessness at our southern border, our de facto open border,
the continued violence in major cities. They even talk today
about what's going on in Minneapolis post the George Floyd incident.
We will talk about it. We should talk about it,
because it's just gotten worse for everybody. Less law enforcement,
more crime, more misery. That's Democrats think that somehow is progress.
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You know, we should suffer as a country, our cities
should suffer. But people that are working class of course,
and disproportionately minorities who are working class suffer in our
cities as a result of the demonization of police. You see,
they're never somehow responsible for the bad things that happen.
The Democrat apparatus of control, the apparatics who run around
on TV telling you this is the way it has
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to be. If you disagree, you're racist. If you disagree,
you're a war monger, or whatever the case may be.
You don't care about old people dying from COVID. So
many things they throw out there. It's all rhetoric. And
now we have the General Millie episode after we had
been for four years told constantly Clay that Trump was
(21:27):
a threat to our government institutions. That was the line.
It was always Trump is undermining our institutions. Was it
very vague? What does that even mean? And why were
there never any specifics saying mean things to CNN journalists.
Is not undermining our government, but they acted like it was.
And now we see once again they tried the quasi
(21:51):
legal coup of the Muller probe. They tried the quasi
legal coup of the twenty fifth Amendment, pretending Rump was crazy,
when really they just disagreed with them. Unfortunately, they couldn't
pull that one off. And now we find yet another instance,
and we're gonna get all these lectures. On January sixth,
the worst thing ever, so scary, almost overthrew the government.
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The most powerful military officer in uniform in the country
having conversations with our greatest adversary about how he will
go against the will of the commander in chief. The
talk was that Trump was going to use the military
to overthrow democracy in the United States. The reality, based
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on this Bob Woodward reporting, is that the military was
going to overthrow Donald Trump if they needed to, and
they weren't going to accede to their constitutional obligations to
allow the commander in chief to make decisions with the military.
And again this goes to the essence of what our
framers believed based on looking at history, and by the way,
(23:00):
it was a present and reality history that they were
living in. Napoleon not much time after our own revolution,
like many military generals before, had used the military to
stay j coup in France. This was the fear for
a long time in America that at some point a
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powerful ruler who had military background would use the military
to overthrow existing civilian government. The reason why our commander
in chief is a civilian, even though he may have
had military experience, is expressly to make it clear that
the military serves at the behest and the request and
(23:46):
the command of the commander in chief. And what General
Millie is bragging about in this Woodward book is directly
contravening potentially the orders that are given to him by
his superior which is the exact opposite. Look, you had
all these Democrats excited that the only person to lose
(24:06):
their job over the Afghanistan debacle was the lieutenant colonel
who came out and said, this is a debacle. Our
military leaders failed us. He lost his job because he
spoke outside the chain of command in a public fashion
in his uniform. And look at what they were willing
to take action against, and I mean real action. When
Trump was president, they had the whole Russia collusion, which
(24:29):
was a fabrication. It was a lie. If that was
a conspiracy theory made real as a weapon in politics
by the media, the intelligence apparatus, which fortunately I know
too well having come from that world, and the Democrat
Party all working together. The Hillary paid for dossier Russia Gate,
all of it together, and then it was we need
(24:51):
to impeach Trump because of conversations he had in the
framework of dealing with the publication real like public buck.
This is like they had transcripts of these. It is
not like a hidden conversation like Millie's. Well, no, but
I'm talking about the ten instances of possible corruption that
they put in the Muller Report first and foremost, where
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nothing actually happened, but it was just responses or people
testifying that there was some kind of a conversation that
they have involved interfering with a government process, essentially interfering
the investigation of Donald Trump himself, right that he was
intervening in a way that was improper. He didn't actually intervene,
(25:34):
didn't actually fire Molle, didn't do any of these things.
They impeached him Clay for that, and then to your point,
they impeached him again like the sociopaths that run the
Democrat Party are for a conversation about Hunter Biden corruption
in Ukraine. That obviously was corruption. He was getting special
(25:56):
treatment because his daddy was VP, and yet they went
after him and they're going to look at this story
with Millie now and say not only Clay, is it
not treason, which is what you've been saying. And I
think you can certainly, I would say conspiracy to commit
treason might be what you could get away within a
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court on this. They're gonna say he's a patriot, he's
a hero for stepping out in this way. That's the
same way that Afghanistan's a huge success, Clay. Don't you
see the pattern? Yeah, and this is where some people
get mad. But I look at this from a legal perspective,
and I want to apply the same precedence so that
whatever rule we apply now makes sense in the years ahead.
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And we're gonna take a couple of your calls here
or a second, but just think about this for a minute,
whether or not you like Joe Biden. If Joe Biden
decided to undertake a military action and the head of
his military said, no, I refuse to do that, and
I'm going to call our enemy and I'm going to
tell them what we are potentially going to do. So
it doesn't work like that's not right. The only case
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could be okay would be if it was if it
was in response to a clearly unlawful order under UCMJ.
That's it. But there was no order here. This was
a make believe back channel. Oh, I'll get you the
information ahead of time because crazy, you know, crazy Orange
man bad might start a war with you guys. That
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that's not a there's no illegal order too, that's just
defying the will of the commander in chief in advance.
That's just saying that I'm good at espionage to me,
and it's treason at the most espionage and minimal. And
and to your point, you can always get somebody for
a conspiracy. That's what we always said in criminal law
back in the day. We'll come back because we got
we got a bunch of veterans. Because I want to
hear from you. What what how can your copy? How
can you not get court martialed for this? If this
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is true? I wonder, by the way, if Millie what
he's gonna say about this. He hasn't been asked yet.
I'm wondering if he's gonna say, Oh, I can't speak
about it at Oh, that's not true. We'll see, you know.
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twot dot org. That's t twot dot org. Welcome again, Clay,
Travis buck Sexton show. We will be talking with you
a great deal about the California recall vote which is
going on today. I'm sure that it will lead our
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results tomorrow. Encourage all of you listening to us in
California to vote against, obviously the awful leadership of Gavin Newsom.
We will see what the impact is. If you look
at odds markets overseas, it appears that Gavin Newsom is
going to survive the recall. They've spent almost one hundred
million dollars trying to avoid him being recalled. But we
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will see what happens there. We have been talking about
the I would say blockbuster revelation that General Millie may
have been calling China to let them know an advance
that he would not be executing the orders of Donald
Trump in the event that Trump decided that he needed
to do something of a military nature against China. And
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we asked if you would call in if you are
a military veteran, as we have talked about espionage, treason
and related conspiracy charges that might be afoot here based
on this report, and what your reaction is as a
military veteran. Mike and Kentucky is up first. Mike, what
you got for us. Hey, guys, how you're doing. Great job.
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By the way, thank you. I was in the I
was in the Multinational Force observers attached. That was an
infantry scout from nineteen delta tanker scout. People call us that.
But if I would have even mentioned my training on
a toe and Dragon missile, or that I could make
a clay more mine on my own with gunpowder, I
would have been sent to Leavenworth. So what's this guy doing?
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So you agree it's a treasonable treasonous act and or
espionage from your perspective, let listen, the enemy is within.
I'm deep I am deeply concerned with our nation, and
I pray for our troops and in our emergency to
now all those guys that are out there on the
front line, Our nurses, our doctors, all these people are
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doing such a wonderful job and they are the real
heroes that opt to people in DC. Mike, thanks so much,
man for calling in from Kentucky. Appreciated. Joe in Texas
has some strong thoughts on this. What's up Joe, Hey,
Hey doing sir? I'm go for a veteran and actually
was a military intelligence alice and one of the things
people got to realize. There's overt and covert intelligence, a
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lot of what intelligence. It's like a snapshot of pictures,
so things like morale the enemy, how people are thinking.
We inbed CIA officers to work jobs in foreign countries
just to get the flavor of the population on how
how they feel about things. What could have happened is
he could have actually caused the war because now you
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I guarantee you this general whoever he was talking to,
file a report, and the head guy who there saw it.
Everybody over there and the intelligence saw it. And what
if they what if that spot over there goes, well,
this is our chance to take Taiwan. If nothing else,
they're obviously messed up inside their highest ranks. Well maybe
we can get a hold of it before they can react.
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This could have caused the war. Not only is it treason,
but it was intentional. It also strikes to me as
tremendously arrogant, as if Millie alone, speaking to his counterpart,
could be the one that stopped a war between the
US and China happening. Really really think about that for
a second. Oh they're gonna believe, he says, don't worry.
The attack is not coming, and they think it's coming,
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they're gonna believe, they're gonna take his word for it.
I mean, it's just interesting. I feel like there's a
lot of this guy's got a very high by the way,
great call, Joe, thank you so much. This guy's got
a lot of the internal dissension aspect here is big though.
I mean, think about it for negotiations or anything else.
It's like, Hey, the American military doesn't even trust their commander,
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by the way, that would normally be very like that.
That's the kind of information. It's high level thinking, very classified. Yeah,
knowing what like the Chinese People's Liberation Army leadership thinks
what their red lines are. That actually can often mean
depends on how the information is received, but that could
be very sensitive information in classified channels, depending And he's
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just I mean, it's clay. It's just another one of
these mooing it's mind blowing. Patrick in Missouri, what do
you think, good job, guys, Millie's an embarrassment. Uh. The
Armed Services Committee needs to call him to their office,
to their chambers. My next phone call is to Josh
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Holly and mil Blunt. All Missouri veterans need to call
those two and mandate that this happened. We're not even talking,
by the way, about his incredible failures in Afghanistan either, Buck,
I mean, this guy has a litany of failures. At
this point, we're talking about potential trees and that we
didn't even know about beforehand. Patrick, Look, thank you so
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much for calling in. And you know, this is where
we start to see people lose one talking about faith
in our institutions. Where it was told that, you know,
Trump was eroding faith in our institutions. Grotesque incompetence from
people who think they're more important than they are but
don't want to be held accountable for what they do
wrong at the top level of government agencies and institutions.
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That undermines faith in the government. That makes people think, huh,
maybe I shouldn't trust these people. I mean, I'm gonna
tell you, whenever this whole COVID madness ends, I'm never
gonna think of the CDC the same way. And I
think for a lot of people, I don't. I used
to work closely with FBI, folks. I can't think of
FBI the same way. After Muller, the probe and who's
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the lanky unself conscious weirdo, you know Toomy thank you. Yes, yeah,
you know, I'm never gonna be got it. You're like, oh, yeah,
the unselfconscious weirdo who's like taking photos by the lake
and thinking that he's you know, yeah, some like great
roman orator in general because he's, you know, all of
a sudden orange Man bad. He was willing to worship
at the throne of Orange Man until he wasn't going
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to be FBI director anymore. Then he was a hero
for the Republic, like so many of the others. Fasil.
We got somebody who's calling in who's from Afghanistan originally Fasil.
What's up in Virginia. Hey, thank you for taking my call.
My name is Sisile hot Mouth. I'm a US Army
war veteran. I think your service. Thank you. I moved
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to the US in two thousand and six. I joined
the Army. I went back to Afghanistan. I served in
the uniform. I supported the Commander of Nature Training Mission Afghanistan.
I supported the director for operations that I have. I
also supported the Commander of Task Wars Transparency. So I
supported most of the genant officers at a Pausil we
have forty five seconds, but keep going, Roger. That and
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the reason why I'm calling today is that as as
as the mainstream media is pivoting away from what's happening
in Afghanistan, think so not real the world in Afghanistan.
People like me who still have family in Afghanistan, they're
trying to get him out, but the system is somehow
not supporting. I have tried to get my family out
of Afghanistan. Most of my previous commanders have tried to
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get him out. When we have failed, I have spent
hours trying to get a hold of people at the USCIS.
They're not able to help. And I'm listening to their
Secretary of State trying to portray as a thing so
really doing world in Afghanistan. It's not, and he's lying,
and you know he's lying. Fathers, Well, thank you for
calling it. I'm sorry, we gotta cut of short. We're
at a show though today we'll talk more about Afghanistan tomorrow.
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