Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show H2 – Sep 15 2021

Liberals: treasonous behavior is to be celebrated if it undermines President Trump. Anti-Trump hacks hail Milley as hero. Joe Scarborough to Republicans Attacking Gen. Milley: "Are you so stupid?" In order to attend Buffalo Bill home games, all fans be vaccinated. NBA players association standing up against covid vaccine mandates for NBA players. Dr. Fauci vs. singer Nicki Minaj on "swollen testicles".

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast What I'm Back In, Hour number two,
Wednesday Edition. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Encourage you to go
download the podcast. Make sure you don't miss a single
minute the show. Maybe you missed the first hour just
hanging out with us. To start the second hour, we

(00:21):
talked a lot about the failed recall of Governor Gavin Newsom,
whether he might be now one of the people who's
willing to challenge Kamala Harris going forward in the Democratic
Party in the event that Joe Biden is not running
in twenty twenty four, which I think most of us
would anticipate will be the case. We also have been
talking a lot about General Millie in his back channel

(00:42):
conversations with China and whether or not that might be
treason us, whether it might be a form of espionage,
whether he might and should be subject to court martial
for defying the orders potentially or telling China that he
would defy the orders of the commander in chief at
the time, President Donald Trump. And what is amazing here
is how many people are lining up to make the

(01:05):
argument that this makes General Milly heroic, and in fact,
many people are arguing that he's protecting democracy. And I
just want to continue to hammer this home because I
think it's significant, and Buck, you know this better than
almost anybody having worked in the intelligence agencies the United States.
The reason why our commander in chief is a civilian

(01:28):
is to avoid exactly this from happening, to avoid the
military being able to take control of a democratically elected
president's decision making. And it is a challenge and a
difference in the way that things are organized for someone
who oftentimes has never served in the military. Bill Clinton

(01:51):
never served in the military. Barack Obama never served in
the military. Donald Trump never served in the military. There
are lots of our leaders who have not been in
the military, and so we want a civilian commander in
chief to send the message that the military is always
subject to the will of a democratically elected president, that

(02:14):
the military serves the people, not the military's generals. And
in a hierarchical system where you have direct response authority
to your commanding officer, you can see how it could
easily spiral into a coup like situation, which has happened
all around the world. When a high level general decides

(02:36):
I'm not going to listen to my superior I'm going
to do what I think is best right, that is
a fundamental attack upon democracy itself. There's a reason why
coups don't usually happen based on the head of the
education department or the sanitation department. Right, the guy who's
in charge of the Grandma is going to the capital
to take selfies. It's yeah, but you know there's a

(02:58):
reason why, historic and otherwise it's the guys who have
control over the people with the guns. We all know this,
which is why what you're talking about is so essential,
so important. But this reflexive partisanship on an issue that
you would think maybe would break through somewhat beyond that
is fascinating because I remember, it's not Clay. They don't

(03:20):
feel the need to defend General really so much that
defending General Milly. They are praising and honoring him for
this right. So it's not enough to say the guy
that did the weird, bad thing against Trump shouldn't have
done it, but it wasn't that big a deal, or
let's not blow it out of proportion. No, it's the
person who did the underhanded thing against Trump, who betrayed

(03:43):
the then commander in chiefs trust, is a hero. As
we've been discussed that, yeah, and that's going that's the
gaslighting part of this. And even further than that, Buck
Claire McCaskill said he was trying to defend democracy, which
is actually turning on its head the entire purpose of
what military subservience to a civilian commander in chief actually represents.

(04:08):
And she should know better as a former senator. And
that's why I'm going to tee off here listening to
cut five yesterday after it is revealed like some kind
of shocked to Marco Rubio that our top general was
calling to defend democracy, as Joe said, to an undemocratic
leader in the world, to make sure that a war
didn't break out, to make sure they knew our strength

(04:31):
was much stronger than the nonsense that Donald Trump was creating.
What does Trump say, fire him for treason? I mean,
this is really something that these people are still following
this guy when he is so bad at respecting the
constitution in the rule of black She really needs down, Buck,
she needs some yoga. I mean, she needs to calm down.

(04:54):
There's something really it's it's discomfiting. It's it's uncomfortable to
hear what someone like this in a position of authority
in the United States government just saying clay because it's
so deluded. I mean, it's really a break with reality.
It's divorced from what it's observable truth. What was this
huge threat to demand this system actually played out? I mean,

(05:16):
we're seeing this all happen. What was the big problem
exactly here? There were disputes about it, Like there's been
disputes about elections in the past, everything ended up being resolved.
Everything ended up. You know, while I say resolved, I
should say the system continued on. I know there's a
lot that's unresolved for people about actually how they feel
the votes were counted and not counted, etc. But war

(05:36):
with China. How does Trump saying they let people vote
out of their county in Georgia, which by the way,
they did do, which is against Georgia state law. But
we're not supposed to talk about that. How does that
equate to invading China or you know, missile strikes on Beijing.
This is lunacy. This is not joy Reid who somehow

(05:57):
gets a television show because she's a media perform or
on television. What you just heard is Claire McCaskill, who
spent twelve years in the United States Senate, and she
is fundamentally not understanding the role of the Constitution and
in fact inverting the role of the Constitution to argue
that a military official is preserving the Constitution by flagrantly

(06:18):
violating his obligations as the chairman of the Joint chiefs
of Staff. And Joe Scarborough Buck also theoretically, and by
the way, Clare McCaskill, also a lawyer, has been theoretically
able to pass the bar in Missouri and serve for
twelve years in the Senate. Joe Scarborough is making the
same argument on MSNBC and Buck he's a former Republican congressman.

(06:39):
I know he sold his ethics down the river and
whoever pays him the most, that's what he stands for
it And yeah, that's what he stands for. But this
is a guy who was from I believe, the Gulf
of Florida, the Panhandle, and now he's saying that anybody
attacking General Millie is stupid. Listen to this that he's
calling a leader and shine us saying, don't think you

(07:02):
can take advantage of the United States of America. Democracy
can be chaotic, but we're strong, we're solid, we're in
good shape. Nothing's going to happen. We're not going to
act erratically, and you're not going to take advantage of us.
I'm sorry, this is some Republicans don't like this. This
is something. Are you so stupid? I just got to ask,

(07:24):
are you so stupid? Are you so ignorant of how
things work? So you don't know that From time to time,
generals talk to generals, diplomats talk to diplomats, and they
send that message, Hey, things look kind of crazy in
the United States. We don't take advantage of this situation.
Don't take advantage of it. No solid, He leaves out

(07:44):
the whole. I'll tell you if we're going to attack,
and I'm not going to listen to my commander in chief,
which is a pretty big part here too, we're going
to subvert the chain of command on a direct order basis.
And also the war that you're for some reason worried
about that I'm even talking. I mean, you should be
saying that that's absurd, that's laughable. Of course that's not
gonna happen. Of course Trump's not going to start a

(08:05):
war with China. The whole thing is crazy town. But
notice this is a continuation of a Democrat strategy that
they've been using in the Trump era, which is really
just a version of they want to burn the village
down in order to save it when it kind when
it came to undermining our institutions of government, remember that
was the big talking point. Yeah, they're undermining our institutions

(08:26):
of government, they would say. And then you see, we'll
hold on a second. There are people in the intelligence
community working with journalists to surveil the Trump presidential campaign
and then continue that with FAISA into the actual or
at the start of the administration. They have they have
comy briefing on the dossier. I mean, you look at

(08:48):
these things. That was all subverting the system, the will
of the people as shown in the twenty sixteen election results.
But they would talk about how they were saving the system, Clay,
they saved the system by destroy they prop up the
chain of command by undermining it. I mean, people abuse
the term Orwellian a lot. You know, war is peace,

(09:08):
you know, freedom is slavery, etc. But this is actually
orwell again, this is what we are seeing play out
with the Democrat narrative of anything we gotta do to
keep our side on offense against Trump. We're and even
though Trump's we just saw us with Gavin Us, Trump's
not even in an office anymore, doesn't matter. He's the
great boogeyman. This is why I always say, you have

(09:29):
to be loyalty to idea, loyal to loyal to ideals,
not necessarily to people. And that's why I like to
always think about this from a legal perspective, because a
lot of times individuals there's a great legal aphorism which
is tough cases make bad law. And I think the
Democratic Party abandoned all principles because they became convinced that

(09:53):
Donald Trump was the worst person who's ever existed basically
in the world of politics. And as a result, so
I'm saying, for Claire McCaskill or Joe Scarborough or Joy
Read or any of these people that we played the
audio from praising General Millie, exact same situation applies, except
Joe Biden is the president that is being undermined. Is

(10:14):
Millie still a hero? Is he still a courageous fighter
for the constitution or is he subverting our entire constitutional system.
I think one of the best and clearest examples of
exactly what you talked about, the abandonment of principle in
the name of the principle of anti Trumpism, which superseds
everything else, is what journalist did journalists for four years
Averry Trump started to just come out and say it.

(10:37):
Speaking the truth to power here means anything goes to
hurt Trump. I mean, you know, doing our job as
the guardians of the republic. You know, the fourth the State,
really the fifth column, but the fourth the State. I mean,
they felt like whatever they had to do to defeat
Trump was inherently justified, even if it meant undermining the

(10:58):
very foundational precepts of their work, which is supposed to
be presenting information to the American people and allowing them
to decide they change their tune on that. That's right.
So clearly this happened. We all know that this happened,
and I think they haven't even processed how much we
haven't forgotten it. And that's why when you have these people,
I mean, you're mentioned that you mentioned Clare mccaskell and

(11:19):
Joy read over it over at MSNBC. I mean, I
have conservative friends that actually will watch the Joy Reid
Show just because they they find it unintentionally hilarious sometimes,
which is actually how I felt about the mattou Show
monologue on occasion where she would go on some you
know a guy named Sergey you know, bought a perogue
in nineteen eighty seven. YadA, YadA, YadA. Trump putin collusion, right,

(11:41):
you just say what, this is what you do night
after night, and after she makes forty million dollars a
year from NBC, I think, I mean, hey, it pays
well to sell yourself. She's at least smart. Mattoo is
a Rhodes scholar, So I mean, which is scarier scarier
than Joy Reid, who is just wrote scholarships are very political.
It's a conversation for another time, that is. But yeah,

(12:04):
Scarborough and Joy Read and Claire McCaskill just completely subverting
the entire purpose of our constitution and turning millionto a
hero is I think a fundamental failure of principal democracy
dies in darkness. Remember all that jazz which you got
for us. Well, let's let's turn our tention away from
the silliness of the left to something that really matters.

(12:27):
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(12:50):
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Clay the morning of nine to eleven. I mean it
was really emotional, no doubt. And I don't know about you, Buck,
but I got a bunch of photos from friends who
lived in the DC in New York area, letting us
see the towers of light that lit the sky Pentagon
and Shanksville. It was an amazing, majestic scene. And we

(13:11):
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to Clay and Buck show. This is Buck and we
want to get to your calls. Eight hundred two eight

(13:53):
two two eight eight two big stories today the Gavin
Newsome unsuccessful recall, but we give our friend Larry Elder
a lot of credit for making a good run of it.
He did come in the top position of the recall contenders.
But Gavin Newsom slithers away from the recall manages to

(14:13):
keep his job. Not a big surprise there. And we
also have the General Millie's story, where not only are
the anti Trump lives out there saying well, they're not
actually saying no big deal, they're saying, well, they're saying that,
and beyond it that he's a hero, he's amazing. Anything
to stop Trump all totally fine. Eight hundred two eight

(14:34):
two two eighty two. Remember going to Clay and Buck
dot com for updates from the show, story, show, prep
all that kind of stuff. John in Houston, Texas. Welcome
to Clay and Buck Show. Do we not have John?
I guess we don't have John. We do have Joe. John.
There we go. What's up buddy? Hey, glad you can
have me on. Listen. We need to stop beating the

(14:56):
trees and drum because you're not gonna make treason stick.
Trump is wrong. Miley didn't commit treason to hear me out.
You're not gonna be able to make that stick because
we're not at war with China. Number one. Is it
what I said yesterday about the treason statue. But go
ahead exactly exactly and when it sets enemy, you need
to understand China is not our enemy. They are an adversary.

(15:16):
And that is an important very. That is an important
legal distinction recognize under the US military and then their doctrine.
An adversary may want to do harm to you. They
may be trying to do harm to you, but they're
not an enemy to you. Have a declaration of war. Now,
what you can charge Milly with is sedition. Mutiny and

(15:37):
sedition under article ninety four of the Uniform Cut of
Military Justice, among other charges. Now it's Milly really had
legitimate concerns about John. Sorry to cut you off, this
is this is a great call. Are you have you
had experience in military tribunals or in courts of military
determination in the past, Yes, somewhat. I may retired military

(16:00):
field great officer, so familiar, familiar with the UCMJ, and
now it applies. And if you can actually get on
duck duck, go, don't use Google. Don't go on duck duck,
go and look and search for use CMJ article ninety four,
and it will lay it out for you in plain language. Okay, seriously,

(16:20):
you need to read it online. I'm not going to
do that here for you, but you really should pull
it up and read it for your audience. Your audience
needs to go out there Article ninety four UCMJ. Now,
if Miley had a concern about Trump's state of mind,
his duty was to take that to the Secretary of Defense,
who was the next thing in his chain of command,

(16:42):
and or the vice president and trying to have Trump
removed under Amendment twenty five. If you really have a
legitimate concern, and I can't speak to what Miley thought
at that time, whether he really believed it or not.
Is the fact that he reached out to the Chinese.

(17:02):
That's okay. We do. We do have agreements in place
with the Chinese so that our generals can talk to
their generals. Now, what he said may be unlawful, it
may violate Espionage Act, but you're not going to make
a stick for treason. Thank you for the car. Here's
the question. You made that argument, Buck, We're not even
having to talk about all his incompetence in Afghanistan right now.
This is an amazing thing about General Millie's failures. We're

(17:24):
talking about something that happened basically a year. I think
I think he's this revelation from Woodward. Get ready for this, folks.
He's adding zeros to his left wing sponsored book deals
and speaking engagements right now. You think we think he's
in trouble, he thinks he's gonna be patting his bank
account down the line. That's I think that's an astute

(17:44):
point by you. Also, does he protect himself for Afghanistan
failure by going all in on the anti Trump. It's
like he's shifting the storyline because now It's like, hey,
remember look at Trump, Look how bad he was. Look
what I did for you. We'll come back into more
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believes in and do it in an intelligent way. Should
be fun for him to join us in the third

(19:11):
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(19:32):
We appreciate all of you, and we hope that you
will continue to join us as we fight the good
fight all over this country in favor of freedom and
the Constitution, which used to be kind of a common
thing to fight him favor of now not. By the way,
Jen Saki, we were just talking about Millie coming out
and saying the President has complete faith in General Millie

(19:53):
and in his loyalty to the Constitution. It truly is
an upside down world. And speaking of an upside down world,
what's going on with COVID continues to be madness. A
couple of different stories that are out there. The Buffalo Bills,
for those of you who are a fan of sports,
the Buffalo Bills have become the first team in all
of American sports, to my knowledge, to require that you

(20:17):
have a vaccine in order to be able to attend
their football games. That is, you can't get a negative test,
you can't have any sort of exception. You have to
have a COVID vaccine in order to attend the Buffalo
Bills football games. Now this is ironic, Buck, because the
Buffalo Bills have several different players that have refused themselves

(20:41):
to get vaccinated. It's also ironic because give credit here,
the NBA Players Association has refused to allow the NBA
to mandate the COVID vaccine for NBA players. Now, this
is what the Players Association should exist to do. They
should advocate for a minority of employees. But now we've

(21:01):
got the NBA lined up against Joe Biden because there
are more than a hundred NBA employees and Joe Biden
is mandating either vaccine or daily test. So credit to
the NBA Players Association, Michelle Roberts is their president for
standing up in favor of the fifteen percent of NBA
players that have refused to get vaccinated so far, because again,

(21:24):
vaccine should be a choice, not a mandate by the
federal government or in my opinion, of your employer. And
now the latest controversy in COVID, and this is just
getting to the height of absurdity. I don't know how
many people out there in our audience is a good
question and of itself, are familiar with Nicki Minaj. She
is a rapper, she is a often how would we

(21:47):
describe it? Controversial? Controversial? Controversial is a kind that's like
the newsman way to say this, right, our controversial NII video?
What's going on there? By the way, every time my
name is mentioned in the news, I am described as
controversial just because of the one the one time you

(22:08):
said the word with the first amendment boobs. No, it's
like you're controversial if you have any opinion that is
not mainstream left wing. That's just think about it. The
way that they describe who is controversial. I'm always described
as controversial. Nicki Minaj. Uh, really, do you have a
favorite Nicki Minaj song? Like? Can you even think of
one off the top of your head. I'm the worst

(22:29):
person when it comes to to like songs, like my
wife is good at songs. My kids are all into
music and everything else. I never know who sings anything
like I'm not a are you a music guy? Like
I'm not great like I when they're popular songs like
the nineteen nineties, I can nail it, like nineteen nineties rap,
nineteen nineties rock like all of that, Like I drive

(22:50):
around in my car when I listen to music. I
listened to the Lithium Channel and I listen to nineties
on nine on satellite radio. Those are the two stages.
You both celebrate the music and culture of the nineties.
That yeah, because consider only a few years apart in age,
that makes sense. I mean yeah. I did play recently
for a friend of mine, some of the Dave Matthews band,

(23:10):
for example, and the friend of mine said what is that?
And to that, I said, oh, wow, how old's your friend?
She's late twenties. Oh this is what happened, sea Buck.
You know you have aged out at dating girls that
have similar interest The Dave Matthews band is a I
get it well known if you if you get her
in high school or college in the nineties, you know

(23:32):
you were well aware of this. Is like, I've been
married for a long time, so I haven't had to
continue to date girls had to. I mean, there's a
lot of guys out there like, oh, poor Buck, he's
got a date girls in his twenties. I don't know
how he even makes things out of bed in the morning.
How did I walk into this one? By they? I
are we talking about General MILLI a second ago, I
will say this I had for me like this earth

(23:52):
shattering moment. So on Avenue with the stars in La There.
For anybody out there, I'm assuming almost a hundred percent
our audience has seen die Hard. Right there is the
die Hard Building, the Nakatomi Towers in the die Hard.
Everyone knows die It's the greatest action movie of all time,
Okay everyone, you would think so. A lot of the
young PA's who work production assistants, who work on television shows,

(24:15):
they're straight out of college. And I had as probably
twenty two or twenty three, straight out of college, driving
me from our show back to another place. Where we
were doing taping, and we drove by and I was like, hey,
I know you just got to La. That's the Nakatomie Towers.
And she's like, why would I care about the Nacatomi Towers?
And I was like, well, you know, die Hard. It's like,

(24:35):
I don't know, I've never seen die Hard. And I
was like, I can't even have a normal conversation with
you if you are you've never seen die Hard. I
think also argue that Hans Gruber maybe among the greatest
villain action action movie villains of all time, played by
the guy who went on to be Professor Snape. For
those of you who are being Harry Potter fans or

(24:55):
the girls that you're dating, Alan Rickman actually died. He
actually died a few years ago. But we were going
to dodge the fact that you have to now explain
who Alan Rickman is to the girls that you're dating
by saying he was Snape in Harry Potter as opposed
to the bad guy and die HARDY can neither confirm
nor deny any of this information and not sure that
you were read into this compartment of this program, sir,

(25:18):
all right, So this is why I was gonna tea.
We got into this because of the Nicki Minaj. This
is actually a funny COVID story. So Nicki Minaj and
I'm not making this up. This this singer, she tweeted
that her cousin's friend had gotten swollen testicles because of
the h because of the COVID vaccine, and this thing

(25:40):
went viral, massive discussion. Everybody's angry at Nicki Nicki Minaj,
including doctor Fauci, who still, by the way, hasn't responded
to our invite to the program, but of course he
was on CNN, and this is an exasperated doctor Anthony
Fauci talking about Nicki Minaj's cousin's friend swollen testicles as

(26:01):
it pertains to the COVID vaccine. Enjoy well, Enjoy, I
think we got it. We have enjoy. It's cut thirteen.
There we go. That was quite a leading answer to
that is a resounding no. There's no evidence that it happens,
nor is there any mechanistic reason to imagine that it

(26:22):
would happen. So the answer to your question is no.
These kinds of claims, which you know, may be you know,
innocent on her part. I'm not, you know, blaming her
for anything, but she should be thinking twice about propagating
information that really has no basis as accept a one
off anecdote, and that's not what science is all about.

(26:43):
Can either confirm nor deny allegations of a swollen testicular
nature based on the data and all we'll say here
Mickey Manaj versus doctor Faucci. I think Mickey Manaj interviewed,
did she intervit interviewed Joe? I didn't. I think she
has just just to be clear for everybody here, Clay,
you know, you tweet a lot, right, I tweet a

(27:05):
fair amount. You tweet more often than I do. Nicki
Minaj has almost twenty three million Twitter followers. Yeah, that's
pretty fair. So when she puts out the the swollen
man area anecdotal story, it actually does get a fair
amount of traction. And didn't she also say there was
a fertility issue for the guy, right? Maybe? Yeah, it's
implied by the h you know themore Yeah, yeah, exactly issue. Look,

(27:32):
I also think it's fascinating how if you and this
is a this is a real dichotomy that exists if
you are associated with the right, which I think it's
fair to say Nicki Minaj is not, although she was.
As she was raising a question, she didn't say don't
get the shot. She just said asking, you know, if
figure it out, you know to do it. And remember,
you know, there are a lot of people that want

(27:52):
to ask questions about this and never get answers, and
they're just told shut up and do it. But but Clay,
if you are a Trump supporter or associated with the
right in any way, your hesitancy to get the shot
is reckless and you're killing people. If you are a
Democrat favored constituency of some kind or associated with a
Democrat party, it's always more. Oh, but you have real

(28:16):
reasons for concern or not trusting the government, or this
was the Trump vaccine and it's his fault or whatever.
They change the blame depending on what your politics are,
because that's how much this has become politicized. Oh, there's
no doubt. No. Yeah, But I do love the idea
of Fauci going head to head with Nicki Minaj in
a battle over testicular fortitude relating to the COVID vaccine.

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I mean, I'm just wondering if we could ever get
him to come on this show. Though, Clay, we could
do you could do the interview with doctor Fauci right now,
you ask me a question. It would just you know,
I am science, I am data. I look at the
science and the data. You just bore you to tears
at CNN, he's like he's like a psychological safety blanket
for people that watch him at msn BC and CNN.

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They just think he's like the old, you know, krusty
doctor who's you know, you'll maybe you'll die, maybe you'll live.
I don't know, we'll see, you know. They think that
he's fantastic. But the twenty year olds think of your
Fauci impersonation. By the way, who know what thinks of what?
What are the twenty year olds? Twenty year olds? They're
thirty year roy. I got a lot of friends of
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this current president, who follows the constitution, who's not famenting
an insurrection, who follows the rule of law, has complete
confidence in Chairman Millie and him serving continuing to serve
in his role, and even as Republicans may criticize him
and have questions about his suitability to continue. Would that
be a factor that President fid would consider separate from

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his judgments about how he's conducted himself. I don't think
the president is looking for the guidance of members of
Congress who stood by. Well, they're the president of their
the president of the United States, and the leader of
their party fermented an insurrection, and many of them were silent. Oh,
the insurrection it's the answer for everything, isn't it. Oh,

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you had a general who was subverting a chain of
command and telling the Chinese military that he give them
a heads up before the attack that no one actually
thought was coming. Whatever, He's not the insurrectionist, I mean,
is General Millie Kwannon Shaman? I think not. Therefore he
should suffer no consequences. That's basically what you get from
Jenn Saki. Welcome back to Clay and Buck Show. And

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you know Jen Saki. For me, sometimes it starts to
sound a bit like is it the mom in Charlie Brown?
That's like, Wow, I know what she's gonna say before
she says it. It's all very it's all very predictable.
And here exactly the same thing. Notice every time democrats
get cornered on one of their own or someone on

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their side, the movie is going to be but Trump
or but the insurrection, and that will not change over
the next couple of years. I mean, unless something else
crazy happens, but those will always be Look, I think Clay,
I think that but Trump might have been a major
factor in Gavin Newsom not only keeping his job but

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keeping it by a pretty clear margin. Yeah. I don't
think there's any doubt that the Republican Party, the Democrats believe,
is unable to win with Donald Trump. There's obviously many
people in the Republican Party who disagree, many people who
are listening to us right now. Gets the base fired up, right,
it gets the Democrat base fired up. But the Democratic
base believes that Trump is Satan. And that's why whether

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it's General Millie, whether it is it really doesn't matter
who the person is. As long as you are anti Trump.
It's effectively a get out of jail free card. And
I don't think it's coincidental that the conversation on General
million is in common pudence has totally vanished surrounding Afghanistan. Remember,
wasn't too long ago Jensaki was getting questions does anybody

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gonna resign? Are there going to be any consequences for
the abject failure that came out of Afghanistan. And now
Millie suddenly has all these bona fides because he stood
up to Donald Trump, even if he was subverting the
station of command, the constitution, everything else. Is it amazing
when you look at what the what the standard is
under the Biden administration. Giveaway Bagram Air Base, don't resign,

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leave Americans behind in cobble at the at the mercy
of the Taliban, Leave you know, Afghan SIV holders behind.
Don't resign buildings of dollars in material sen send senior
citizens into nursing homes to die by the thousands that
likely would not have otherwise because of COVID positivity, because
of a terrible executive order. Don't resign say some things

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to women that makes them uncomfortable in the workplace. Oh
you're gone? Is the Democrat Party of I mean, obviously
you're referring to Cuomo here, unless you're Joe Biden, and
then it's like, oh, it never happened, aka terror Reid.
I mean, it really is amazing the sort of crazy

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limbo that Democrats have to apply to put standards in
place that somehow protect all of their people as long
as they're valuable. Right, If Cuomo was still valuable, he
wouldn't have gotten crossed out for sexual harassment. Right. They
just cast him off the boat because they're like, this
guy's deadweight, let's get rid of him. And if they
were actually needing him, if he was running for president,

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this story would have vanished. And yet we see the standard, right, massive,
massive blunder that actually affects the American people and has
consequences that everybody can see and understand that. You're fine
as long as the Democrats still need you. But you
offend the wokeness gods, and you may find yourself getting

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a resignation. No one I think involved in the Afghanistan
boaccle is going to resign. Let's get to Kathy in Connecticut.
You's got an interesting point you wanted to make. I'm
wanting to get her in here, Kathy, welcome, Hi guys.
I always remember the Democrats accuse Republicans every day of
what day the Democrats are guilty of. Yes, it's amazing.

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Worried about Trump being crazy? Joe Biden, we know he's
compromised by China. He's the one that might have Alzheimers.
He had two brain aneurysms. See, they blamed Trump to
cover up for Biden, and there must be a special
counsel or a special prosecutor to investigate Biden and Millie.

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You know, Kathy, it's a great point. They thank you
so much, Kathy about the special counsel. By the way, Clay,
notice Trump administration, Mueller's special counsel, Bush administration, Valerie Plame,
Scooter Libby, you know, special counsel. They weaponize that statute.
Where are our special count Oh we don't have them

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for the last twenty years. That Isn't that a shock?
It's almost like we play all nicey nice, and they
play with a two by four to our face. Anyway,
we got Rand Paul joined us here in a second, Clay,
what are you excited to talk to him about? Two things?
One gain of function and his continued hammering of doctor
Fauci over that, and then amazing questioning yesterday of Secretary

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of State Anthony B. Lincoln over this drone attack that
appears to have killed an Ncent man and seven kids.
Pretty significant stories there. I think we're gonna hammer Rand
Paul for both of those and give him applause for
handling those as well as he did. Senator Paul from
Kentucky coming up in a few minutes. Stick around, you're
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