September 16, 2021 • 36 mins
Pompeo on Milley allegations: We need to get to the bottom of this as quickly as possible. Immediately after recall, Newsom enacts covid vaccine proof or negative test at restaurants and indoor events. General Milley bragged about his treason! Epidemiologist calls Clay and Buck with whirlwind of information. Study: it's the vaccinated who are spreading covid.
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security news to get it to. First of all, North
Korea fired off. North Kore fired off a missile. South
Korea fired off a missile. We can break a bit
of that down for you. This is usually North Korea
wants attention. That's what that is. North Korea wants the
whole international community to go into a short frenzy of
oh my gosh, North Korea's missiles are scary and getting worse.
A reminder that no one has yet figured out how
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to get them to stop doing the things that they do.
No one, no administration has yet been successful in getting
North Korea to open up, to stop being the totalitarian
nightmare that it is. You can spend more time than
in a moment, but Clana, yesterday, we're talking to you
about General Millie. And this guy's got a lot of
attention because of the Bob Woodward book that is out now.
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Apperil I believe it's called and see here we are
this You get the whole news like you get everyone
talking about this guy's book. It's amazing marketing. But he
does have quite a scoop. In The scoop, if you recall,
revolves around conversations between General Millie and the Chinese People's
Liberation Army equivalent, right, their version of the Chairman of
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the Joint Chiefs of Staff, about how Donald Trump might
be so outlandish, crazy, reckless, dangerous that he would start
a war with China. But don't worry, General million This
is the part they always leave out. General Millie would
reach out to China to say, we're going to attack
you or not going to attack you, and you can
trust me. Forget about what the commander in chief, Donald
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Trump at the time may be saying. Former Secretary of
State Mike Pompeo has taken a line it sounds very
much in line with what we said here on the
show yesterday, Clay that the idea that there was a
threat of war with China and Millie needed to even
have this conversation is absurd. All this has as a predicate,
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this idea is somehow there was this fear, there was
there was a cabinet members who running around concerned that
Donald Trump was going to engage in some kind of
rogue activity or some kind of active war. To sort
of lash out that this never happened. It's just patently absurd.
And so the entire predicate for all of this assessment
that Woodward is now laid out in his book. We'll
see what turns out, but make no mistake about it.
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During that entire time, the entire time I served, all
four years, we conducted orally foreign policy. We had a
national security team that was working hard to make sure
that we made the best decisions we possibly could. This
is look. I saw Senator Duckworth from Illinois come out
and say effectively that she was troubled by this. She's
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of course formerly in the military, and I don't see
how anyone can have heard these allegations, have read this
story in any way and not be troubled at the
highest level about it. And we really need and we'll
talk to Ted Cruz about this, because he has tweeted
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about this as well. We're gonna primarily focus on the border,
but we're gonna talk with Ted Cruz about this as well,
because General Millie needs to have to sit down in
front of the Senate and answer questions about what he
was doing and why he was doing it. Now, the
Pentagon has tried to release a statement buck we read
it yesterday, I believe, saying that he did nothing improper.
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But also yesterday and I'm surprised this didn't get more attention,
but I think it probably should have, the acting Defense
Secretary said this was done without his knowledge, that it
violated chain of command, and that General Millie should have
to resign because of it. And remember, this doesn't even
need us to examine his disastrous management of what went
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on in Afghanistan. This is totally separate from that, but
indicative of him violating what I think is the most
sacro sainct prohibition that exists in the United States, which
is the military exist at the command of the commander
in chief, who was a civilian, and that is by design,
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and he directly challenged that by his actions. We saw
with James Comey somebody who was a narcissistic political actor
posing as a guardian of the republic, who was beyond reproach,
and anybody who wasn't suffering from Trump to arrangement syndrome
saw that lanky, weirdo for what he really was. But
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there are a lot of people who bought into it
because they hated Trump so much. But remember his whole
posturing initially before he was showing up at Democrat fundraisers.
McCabe too, by the way, his deputy there were close
buddies at the FBI. We figured out that that was
a guy who was very part is in wrapping himself
in the cover of somebody who was actually just doing
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the job. When you look at General Millie and some
of the surrounding circumstances here, it increasingly looks like this
is a guy who was in his heart, in his
mind a part is in leftist I mean Clay he
apologized for appearing with President Trump in Lafayette Square back
in June when the BLM riots were going on, and
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that was actually not a President Trump photoop. There was
a full investigation that was a lie by the media.
They cleared the square so Trump could walk there and
take a photo that was not true. But Millie apologized
for even being present. He has expressed public support for
the Black Lives Matter protest slash riots. Remember those riots
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are good. The January sixth riot is bad. He also
while there's these long established protocols about the nuclear chain
of command, there are allegations made the Wall Street Journal
here they go through the book in detail that Clay
He might have set up this special chain of command,
that Millie might have done this after phone calls with
Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi is not the commander in chief.
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Thank god. I'm just bat sorry, I'm just picturing Nancy
Pelosi as a commander in chief and picturing her kneeling
in the Ghanaian garb like have. I mean, what a
joke she is. But anyway, the general Millie focus here,
I think again, what is so amazing about this book
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is not only that he did it, but that either
he or people close to him bragged that he did
it to Bob Woodward like nobody would have even known
that this happened. Not only did he potentially commit a
court martiallable offense, but he was so proud of doing
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it that he bragged about it. This is like you
get away with a crime, right if you're a bank robber,
you get away with robbing the bank, and then you
so want credit for the brilliance of your bank robbery
that you then do an interview so people know how
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you did the bank robbery. It's also really amazing levels
of conceit and also believing that you are above the
law and above your station in life, and that your
military oath doesn't even matter. Right, Well, that's that's what
I what I wanted to to add to hear Clay,
And that's the principles that are at work. All of
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a sudden disappear because it has to do with Trump, right,
the Orange Man bad mentality override so many things we
would like to believe. It wouldn't override law enforcement, the
Department of Justice at the highest level. We saw that
was not true with Komey and McCabe and other people
who were honestly humiliated insofar as they violated the oaths
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of their positions, in some cases with actual sanction, like McCabe.
Of course it was fired and Komy it was fired.
But we hoped that this would not have infected the
military in this way. But Mike Pompeo, who is a
veteran as well as being the former CIA director and
former Secretary of State, made it very clear that this
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was in fact a usurpation, unconstitutional, incomprehensible, and completely out
of life for any military leader, certainly someone who's in
the role that the chief of staff is, and you've
described Great Jared described to he's just simply an advisor.
He's not in the chain of command for operational activity.
So this would be dangerous and an usurpation of authority
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that is historically anomalous. And we should make sure that
we as quickly as we can figure out if General
Milly spoke to Wodward himself. We should find out if
General Milliy is prepared to testify, we can do it
tomorrow or the next day to get clarity about what
General Milly said. I don't know the deoti's policy Sean
exactly on whether there would be a transcript or this
phone call. But I promise you there were note takers
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in the room. I am very confident that that conversation
can be reconstructed if if you had a senior military
leader who was simply an advisor. We need answers, man.
You know, they hold hearings over things on Capitol Hill.
Far less significant than whether or not the chairmber of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff created an extra constitutional communication
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channel around the command or in chief having to do
with a possible military or even nuclear first strike. That's
a big deal. Yeah, And again, I think the big
deal that we talked about as this story emerged, and
you know this better than most, having been an intelligence
is imagine how this back channel conversation scrambles all Chinese
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analysis of American power and how that can then lead
to a further miscalculation in the event. Or heck, maybe
it helps to explain the aggressiveness towards Hong Kong. Maybe
it helps to explain the aggressiveness towards Taiwan is that
we have so neutered ourselves and our own president in
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private conversations with China that Chinese leadership knows that America
doesn't have the backbone to stand up to them at all,
and certainly that's the case with Joe Biden, who frankly
doesn't have the backbone to hardly stand up and answer
ten minutes of questions from the media without getting his
mic cut off or without being told that he shouldn't
be doing it. I want to hear from all of
you on this one eight two eight two two eight
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eight two on the lines and come back more on Milly,
the national security deep state and what it means for
us going forward, plus the border, which is an issue
that Clay and I like to try to focus on
because the mainstream media, pardon me, the Democrat aligned corporate media,
because why do we say their mainstream the Democrat media
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doesn't want you to know that right now, there are
thousands and thousands of apprehended illegal immigrants crowded under highly overpasses,
all bunched in together. Are they COVID testing them? Are
they releasing them in the United States? Is there any
real process to deal with this? Don't ask any question,
asking any questions as racist, of course, as you know,
if you ask any questions at our southern border not allowed.
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The media will say you're racist, but we've got the
numbers on that, and Senator Ted Cruz will be joining
in the third hour two oh five Eastern time to
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Buck Sexton show. We got some lines. Let here, let's
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get to it. Jim in North Rockford, Illinois was up. Jim, Hey, guys,
doing a great job. I think you've learned to throw
an interjective point on this general Millie deal. I mean,
I just want to know, let's take this one step further.
If he had called China and said that he was
willing to give them an advanced notice on any type
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of conflict, nuclear or even anything big conventionally, I mean,
what was his next step to take over as a coup,
to actually run the thing. I mean, he's now taking
controls out of the president of the United States stands
and I mean, and if it was I understand that.
Thanks thanks for the call. I understand that argument. I
don't think he's going to be effectively staging a coup
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right like as in trying to get soldiers to line
up behind him. But the functional nature of what he's
doing is effectively putting his own military judgment above that
of the commander in chief, which directly contradicts the hierarchy
of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and is a
direct attack upon the constitutional nature of the government. There's
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a difference between that and you know, I think if
you play it out, Okay, let's let's say that the unthinkable,
I mean, the truly unthinkable happen, and Trump did give
some order for you know, there needs to be a
strike on the Chinese fleet in the South China Sea. Right.
Let's say Trump did that, and then Millie says, no, okay,
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well what you know, how does where does that go? Right?
I think the answer is probably that because Millie serves
under the Defense Secretary, that Trump would have the Defense
Secretary order Millie to do that. The bigger issue is,
though we don't know that Millie's espionage or subterfuge would
have ever been uncovered. Right, because let's say that we
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are decide we're going to strike a ship it's a
good example in the South China Sea, and then Millie
gives that knowledge to the Chinese. First of all, they
could be sitting there waiting to fire back at us
before we get there. They could preemptively attack us. We
would not necessarily know how they became aware of this
going on. It all sounds so crazy, But what I
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just meant is that in a world where you're crazy
enough to believe that Trump would do this, how do
we know that you're not also crazy enough to say
that there needs you know, the twenty fifth Amendment needs
to be invoked, and you know you're gonna make some declaration.
I mean, if you think that Trump, all I'm trying
to say is if you really believe, as apparently Milly did,
that Trump would launch a war with China because he
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was in a bad mood, Yes, you'll believe anything, and
you're willing to probably do anything there in the idea
in the service of what you think is saving your country.
So I think, well, not only that he's I come
back to the fact that he's bragging or his interstartacle
is as if he's a hero, which is not. Also,
as I've said, I think you're gonna say it's not
a bad move, he's gonna give it, give it six months,
this guy will be at the Aspen Institute and every
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lib who watches Tapper and mattaw will be cheering for
what a hero he is. Jim in North Sorry, we
just had Jim right. We got Mike in Barkhamstead, Connecticut.
What's up Mike day? Guys. I'll tell you what I
want to tell you one thing real quick is when
Rush passed away, man, I was like devastated. I said,
we got nothing now, and they couldn't have picked a
better replacement than you. Guys. We just we're just trying
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to keep the fight going. I'm in a democratic state
of Connecticut. God bless me. Anyways, But a couple of
quick hits. Uh. I think the head of the snake
in this whole thing. I think Millie needs to be prosecuted.
But why doesn't Nancy PELOCHI show up in every single investigation.
It's a great question to be investigated, a great question.
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Next segment, your next segment coming up, and then I'll
let you guys go on with this. The CDC said
two weeks ago they have to stop the flights from
his Afghanistan or settle them back because the disease is well,
what about the people coming in at the bordered and
why aren't we doing that there? Yeah, I think they're
worried about measles or something like that. For I'm Afghanistan.
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Thank you. By the way, they aren't testing anybody at
the board. Remember there was that snarky Jensaki response when
it was pointed out the border is a giant open
door of future Democrat voters Afghanistan. That whole situation. Yeah,
people might say that a lot of them will will
end up voting Democrat, but they're not as willing to
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go to the extreme length they are to ignore common sense,
ignore what they're doing to the American people in terms
of the testing and regulations the border clay. They want
to keep this highway. Look, they want to keep the
highway of illegals flowing. They don't want it to stop. Well,
they're trying under their three point five trillion dollar budget
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monster numbers in August. I think we're gonna have a
lot in September as well. I'm gonna talk about the
People's Republic of Los Angeles and what exactly is going
on with the La County vaccine mandate that became an
announced rule guess what immediately after Gavin Newsome situation. But
first let's take a call Paul in Toronto, Canada has
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been waiting with us for a little while. Paul, which
you got for us? Hey, thank you guys for having
me on your shoe. I'm an infatus dis zess epidemiologist
with expertise in COVID. I've been working in the FOB
nineteen months, so I wanted to just raise the points here.
I'll folk us My work is in early treatment, which
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is that early treatment existed absent of the vaccine that
we could have used to close this thing out. I'm
seeing here openly. I'm sharing my view base and all
of the science. Right now. Children are not candidates for
these vaccines and the circumstance they have not been safety
tested the vaccines they provide no opportunity for benefit for children,
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only potential opportunity for harms, and we are seeing the
harms that have emerged in the C disease VIAS database
and the adverse events the deaths. This is a very
serious issue and children have an actual protection that if
we bypass it and we inject into the deltoid into
the arm, we could get levels of death occurring in
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children the United States similar to what we've seen in
the adults reported in the cdcase adverse database, which only
captures one percent, and already we are fourteen thousand deaths.
The purpose of this call is this, when we look
at the Israeli data today, we see that the Israel
implemented is booster program tild shots August one. When we
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plot the graphs, we saw that the infections were going
up steadily. But what is very interesting and staggering is
if you look at August one onwards to now, you
see that the infections have exploded. In fact, what is
showing is that the booster program, the tilt shot, not
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only did not stop the transmission, it exploded the transmission.
And we are arguing that the vaccinated persons are carrying
such a high viral load in their mouths and the
all cavities and nasals for injured passage. They are contributing
to the spread. This is not a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
This has been false by the CDCNNIH. This is a
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pandemic of the vaccinated. Because when you look at the
data out of the UK, most up to dated data
is up today, we see that the persons who have
died infected with DELTA, seventy percent of the deaths reported
by Britain today today are those who are double vaccinated.
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So what the media is saying is a complete misleading
to the public. And there's a recent study very seminal
out of Coach Human City, Vietnam. They had sixty nine
healthcare workers who were confined today facility for two weeks
lockdown and these healthcare workers were double vaccinated. What did
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they find. They find with this lockdown that the healthcare
workers all transmitted the virus to each other because they
typed the virus molecularly to see so the spread was
within that facility. But more importantly, the research publishing land
set showed that the healthcare workers had a viral load
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two hundred and fifty one times two hundred and fifty
one times. I allude for the delta. But Paul, Paul,
can I ask Paul can? I ask you how? Just
and just so, because forever listening, you're you've called it
and you said you're an epidemiologist based in Canada. Clearly
you're very conversant in the studies and the situation going
on here. How is it possible medically, Let's just say possible,
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not proven yet that somebody who would be vaccinated could
have two hundred and fifty times more viral particle than
somebody who's unvaccinated exposed the virus, because you just give
us an understanding of how that could happen. Well, okay,
but first of all, I do have expertise, and I
live in the United States. I'm in Toronto today. Oh
I'm sorry, I thought you're canad Canada base. But good,
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go ahead, Yeah, no, no, but I'm an infectiously is epidemiologist. Okay.
The reality is that we've always known don't you never
ever vaccinate during an ongoing epidemic or pandemic. That is
a virologist greatest fear, because you drive the emergence of
the vin De variance. And I mutation. It is vaccination.
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You're putting evolutionary selection pressure on the pathogen, and it
is selecting variants that are highly more infects US not
lethal because it does not want to kill the host.
It wants to survive. So it's mutating downwards Mueller's ratchet.
It will mutate downwards highly infects US and those that
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are highly infects us very ease of transmission will be
selected forward and those are the ones that are going
to be the new dominant variant. So we were doing that.
We always had about twelve variants in the background that
in India, etc. And in the end vaccinating design of
vacts as an example, and then the delta spread it
became the dominant variant for exactly how I just explained.
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And then what we are realizing now is the defisor
vaccine that we have existing right now in the United States,
clearly in Israel, because Fiser vaccine is the Israeli vaccine,
it just does not hit the delta anymore. They del
bypasses the antibodies the vaccine produces, so you are literally
at zero when you take a vaccine today. You need
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to understand something. The Wuhan strain, the wuhan, the original
strain February twenty twenty was what operation works. We built
those vaccines on. What we have existing today is the
delta variant That wuhan is long gone a year now,
doesn't exist. You are being vaccinated for a vaccine that
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will fail. I want you to listen to my words.
Will fail and those doing it, those in public, how
the medical doctors know this. There is no vaccine that
could confer immunity like naturally acquired immunity. Those with natural immunity.
And a thing to show you. Gazette at All just
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published a paper preprint out of Israel. And why Israel
again is because if you are was the first out
of the box with FISA, has the most complete data,
the most population vaccinated today. They just published a study
that was stunning and it should turn this whole vaccine
issue on his head now and should stop this garbage
by the CDC and NIH about natural immunity is not
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a prominent tissue and doesn't really exist. That is bogast BS.
So let me just ask you this is this You've
obviously shared a lot of information from your perspective with us, Paul,
let me just ask you this science. It's not my perspective, Yes, okay, data,
I'm just giving you decide that you don't hear. I
appreciate that. Is it your perspective, then, based on your
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knowledge and expertise, that the only way to end COVID
in the United States or anywhere in the world is
natural immunity. Well, first of all, to as I appeared
on Ross three times before, God bless him. I admire
that man. Anyway, let me answer you a question. The
only way to end this today with the delta is this,
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we strongly double down, triple down protection of the high
risk elderly in the nursing homes for the time. We
have never done it in the United States, Canada, Britain.
Our nursing homes have been the killing fields. We need
to step up and do it first. That is primary.
While we are protecting the elderly for the first time,
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we implement some quick public service on Vitamin D tell
in the public, get your house in order, fitness wise
cut fifteen to twenty pounds. Obesity has emerged as the
principle superloaded risk factor. Third, while we are doing that,
we offer the elderly nursing homes early outpatient treatment. We
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have anti virals at work. We give it to them
if they get infected. While we will get them through
the infection, they will clear it. They will become naturally
immune and survive no hospitalization or death. That's the problem.
When we put them in the hospitals, they will die
at the emergency room door. You're forty percent increase rise,
and Fourth. The last part of this puzzle is you
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allow the rest of the society, the infants, the children,
the teenagers, the young, the middle age, who are healthy
and well. You allow the well in society to live
a largely unfettered life free, no masks, free, and let
them face the pathogen like we've done for every pathogen.
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They will become population level naturally immune. And there is
no vaccine, not these narrow spike specific conferred vaccine immunity
that is bogus. Natural immunity is robust, complete, durable, and lifelong.
We have evidence today of people with nineteen eighteen Spanish
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flu Paul. We are seeing that the immunity has survived
one hundred years. Paul. Really, we appreciate the whirlwind of
information and analysis here, we do have to have to
get to our commercials. Thank you so much though for
being with us calling in Claire. You know, we can
unpack this a little bit in a minute. Also, I
think we get that transcript. First of all, I want
to know because we have a lot of docks listening.
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I just want to know, Okay, so this guy calls
an epidemiologist, obviously super articulate, smart guy, right so and
very conversed, and all that he ISRAELI dated everything else.
Are there other docks listening, I mean of our audience
who are like, yeah, this guy's right, this guy gets it.
I'm just curious that we can get a little bit
of that affirmation for only calls one. I mean, that's
not a bad idea. I mean, because I'm see that
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you're saying. All that he's saying tracks with I've read
and what I've heard from doctors in back channel. So
I'm wondering if anybody else who has an MD or
is an epidemiologist contract with some of this. But we'll
come back at you, man, that was a call that
was yeah, that was in fuego. We'll come back in
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in Clay Travis buck Sexton. We just had Paul in Toronto,
or he's in Toronto right now. He's not actually Canadian,
running through from his perspective everything COVID related. And we've
got a bunch of doctors who want to weigh in,
I believe, but we'll start with Julian in Tupelo, Mississippi. Julian,
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what did you think of Paul? Are you also a doctor? Yes,
I'm an internal medicine subspecialist. I'm a fellow of the
American College of Physicians. And I thought your guest from
Toronto just nailed it. I mean, I've been reading avidly
about this epidemic since it's outset. And there's another epidemiologist,
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a guy named John Iddis, yes at Stanford, who was
published right right in Slate in March that nailed what
the mortality rate of this virus is going to be
based on the diamond Princess of matiasm and yes, right,
so so yes, and what he said comports ee with
(31:59):
what I've seen and practice here. I've had patience guy
who had been previously vaccinated. I've seen some pretty serious
vaccine related Uh, toxicities and do you feel by the way, Julian,
we hear from a lot of doctors that they don't
feel like they can speak out because it's somewhat of
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it like science has a variety of perspectives and opinions.
And it's as if if you say anything other than
the vaccine is the greatest thing that's ever been existed
in human history. That you hear a monster who wants
grandparents to die? Yeah, right, right, Well, you know, fifty
years ago most physicians were in private practice and businessmen.
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Now most of them are are hired by corporate entities.
That's right. Now I work, I work for a corporate entity,
so I could be censored or censured. Well, thank you
for the call a couple of doctors. Thank you. Gretchen
in reading Pennsylvania Family Medical petitian or Gretchen and thanks
(33:01):
so much. Hi, how are you? Thanks for taking my call?
So what do you think about our caller before? Totally
one hundred percent agree? Um, I actually am a local
tenants doctor and I have i'd worked over in the
prison system in Hawaii before the vaccination came out, and
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I obviously survived of the two hundred and ninety one
prison occupants. UM, they there was a eighteen that did
never got the virus, they should study them. And obviously
we're exposed to it and I had no one die.
But the therapy they were doing at the time was
convalescent plasma. UM didn't have really they weren't using the
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other cheaper and effective generic therapeutics. So does it track
for you what he said about the vaccinated because of
the because of the process of how viruses evolved and
react to vaccine during an ongoing pandemic, does it track
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that you could have people who are vaccinated who are
actually spreading, who have a higher viral load to spread,
while in many cases having no symptoms. Does that medically
make sense to you as a possibility. You can be
an asymptomatic shedder, you can shed the virus, yes, but
could it be in greater numbers though, for the vaccinated
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in some cases than the unvaccinated, Because that was the
claim that he made. That is what's happening if this
is a disease as the vaccinated at this point, because
I mean I am not vaccinated and I obviously was
exposed to corus. You have natural antibodies, then yourself I
haven't gotten checked. I have not gotten checked, but I do.
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I mean, if I take care of myself, I eat,
try to eat properly. I'm not overweight, and I also
take this therapeutic, that vitamin D levels good, that nac
nac which there's been studied, obviously using that and elderly
to spite flu virus. Thank you. By the way, I
want to get too, sorry to cut you off, Gretcham,
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but I want to get to one more MD so
we can get three of them reacting Michael and Auburn,
California reacting to the call from Paul. We need you
to be a little bit fast here because we're finishing
off the hour. But did you agree with the substance
of what he was saying? The answer is yes. In short,
and I'll make this quick so I don't sound so pretentious.
I have two COVID treatment patents pending, and I have
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recently FDA proved investigational drug for cancer vaccine going into
trial soon. So not to sound pretentious, but I just
wanted to have that background. I'm writing a white paper
on this about first do no harm, and I think
what he was missing everything he said I agreed with
but I think he was missing a few things to
help the people understand what's going on. If you look
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at your whole hand and consider that the virus and
those spike proteins you've heard about, or the fingers, you're
only vaccinated with the fingernail. When someone is naturally immune,
they make annibody against the whole hand, including the fingers.
So it's also less likely that that will have a
chance to mutate, but it is more likely to mutate
(36:10):
and give you some variance in the vaccinated people and
then naive meaning unaffected. Hey, the virus is happy, it's
not even going to mutate. Did that make some sense? Yes,
it does make sense, And I've heard, by the way, Michael,
I've heard other mds that I know personally explained it
in a very similar fashion. So we could just say, hey,
call in and analyze an incredibly detailed call whether or
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not it's true. Fantastic Ted cruise. Next, you're listening to
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security news to get it to. First of all, North
Korea fired off. North Kore fired off a missile. South
Korea fired off a missile. We can break a bit
of that down for you. This is usually North Korea
wants attention. That's what that is. North Korea wants the
whole international community to go into a short frenzy of
oh my gosh, North Korea's missiles are scary and getting worse.
A reminder that no one has yet figured out how
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to get them to stop doing the things that they do.
No one, no administration has yet been successful in getting
North Korea to open up, to stop being the totalitarian
nightmare that it is. You can spend more time than
in a moment, but Clana, yesterday, we're talking to you
about General Millie. And this guy's got a lot of
attention because of the Bob Woodward book that is out now.
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Apperil I believe it's called and see here we are
this You get the whole news like you get everyone
talking about this guy's book. It's amazing marketing. But he
does have quite a scoop. In The scoop, if you recall,
revolves around conversations between General Millie and the Chinese People's
Liberation Army equivalent, right, their version of the Chairman of
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the Joint Chiefs of Staff, about how Donald Trump might
be so outlandish, crazy, reckless, dangerous that he would start
a war with China. But don't worry, General million This
is the part they always leave out. General Millie would
reach out to China to say, we're going to attack
you or not going to attack you, and you can
trust me. Forget about what the commander in chief, Donald
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Trump at the time may be saying. Former Secretary of
State Mike Pompeo has taken a line it sounds very
much in line with what we said here on the
show yesterday, Clay that the idea that there was a
threat of war with China and Millie needed to even
have this conversation is absurd. All this has as a predicate,
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this idea is somehow there was this fear, there was
there was a cabinet members who running around concerned that
Donald Trump was going to engage in some kind of
rogue activity or some kind of active war. To sort
of lash out that this never happened. It's just patently absurd.
And so the entire predicate for all of this assessment
that Woodward is now laid out in his book. We'll
see what turns out, but make no mistake about it.
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During that entire time, the entire time I served, all
four years, we conducted orally foreign policy. We had a
national security team that was working hard to make sure
that we made the best decisions we possibly could. This
is look. I saw Senator Duckworth from Illinois come out
and say effectively that she was troubled by this. She's
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of course formerly in the military, and I don't see
how anyone can have heard these allegations, have read this
story in any way and not be troubled at the
highest level about it. And we really need and we'll
talk to Ted Cruz about this, because he has tweeted
(03:45):
about this as well. We're gonna primarily focus on the border,
but we're gonna talk with Ted Cruz about this as well,
because General Millie needs to have to sit down in
front of the Senate and answer questions about what he
was doing and why he was doing it. Now, the
Pentagon has tried to release a statement buck we read
it yesterday, I believe, saying that he did nothing improper.
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But also yesterday and I'm surprised this didn't get more attention,
but I think it probably should have, the acting Defense
Secretary said this was done without his knowledge, that it
violated chain of command, and that General Millie should have
to resign because of it. And remember, this doesn't even
need us to examine his disastrous management of what went
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on in Afghanistan. This is totally separate from that, but
indicative of him violating what I think is the most
sacro sainct prohibition that exists in the United States, which
is the military exist at the command of the commander
in chief, who was a civilian, and that is by design,
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and he directly challenged that by his actions. We saw
with James Comey somebody who was a narcissistic political actor
posing as a guardian of the republic, who was beyond reproach,
and anybody who wasn't suffering from Trump to arrangement syndrome
saw that lanky, weirdo for what he really was. But
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there are a lot of people who bought into it
because they hated Trump so much. But remember his whole
posturing initially before he was showing up at Democrat fundraisers.
McCabe too, by the way, his deputy there were close
buddies at the FBI. We figured out that that was
a guy who was very part is in wrapping himself
in the cover of somebody who was actually just doing
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the job. When you look at General Millie and some
of the surrounding circumstances here, it increasingly looks like this
is a guy who was in his heart, in his
mind a part is in leftist I mean Clay he
apologized for appearing with President Trump in Lafayette Square back
in June when the BLM riots were going on, and
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that was actually not a President Trump photoop. There was
a full investigation that was a lie by the media.
They cleared the square so Trump could walk there and
take a photo that was not true. But Millie apologized
for even being present. He has expressed public support for
the Black Lives Matter protest slash riots. Remember those riots
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are good. The January sixth riot is bad. He also
while there's these long established protocols about the nuclear chain
of command, there are allegations made the Wall Street Journal
here they go through the book in detail that Clay
He might have set up this special chain of command,
that Millie might have done this after phone calls with
Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi is not the commander in chief.
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Thank god. I'm just bat sorry, I'm just picturing Nancy
Pelosi as a commander in chief and picturing her kneeling
in the Ghanaian garb like have. I mean, what a
joke she is. But anyway, the general Millie focus here,
I think again, what is so amazing about this book
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is not only that he did it, but that either
he or people close to him bragged that he did
it to Bob Woodward like nobody would have even known
that this happened. Not only did he potentially commit a
court martiallable offense, but he was so proud of doing
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it that he bragged about it. This is like you
get away with a crime, right if you're a bank robber,
you get away with robbing the bank, and then you
so want credit for the brilliance of your bank robbery
that you then do an interview so people know how
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you did the bank robbery. It's also really amazing levels
of conceit and also believing that you are above the
law and above your station in life, and that your
military oath doesn't even matter. Right, Well, that's that's what
I what I wanted to to add to hear Clay,
And that's the principles that are at work. All of
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a sudden disappear because it has to do with Trump, right,
the Orange Man bad mentality override so many things we
would like to believe. It wouldn't override law enforcement, the
Department of Justice at the highest level. We saw that
was not true with Komey and McCabe and other people
who were honestly humiliated insofar as they violated the oaths
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of their positions, in some cases with actual sanction, like McCabe.
Of course it was fired and Komy it was fired.
But we hoped that this would not have infected the
military in this way. But Mike Pompeo, who is a
veteran as well as being the former CIA director and
former Secretary of State, made it very clear that this
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was in fact a usurpation, unconstitutional, incomprehensible, and completely out
of life for any military leader, certainly someone who's in
the role that the chief of staff is, and you've
described Great Jared described to he's just simply an advisor.
He's not in the chain of command for operational activity.
So this would be dangerous and an usurpation of authority
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that is historically anomalous. And we should make sure that
we as quickly as we can figure out if General
Milly spoke to Wodward himself. We should find out if
General Milliy is prepared to testify, we can do it
tomorrow or the next day to get clarity about what
General Milly said. I don't know the deoti's policy Sean
exactly on whether there would be a transcript or this
phone call. But I promise you there were note takers
(09:29):
in the room. I am very confident that that conversation
can be reconstructed if if you had a senior military
leader who was simply an advisor. We need answers, man.
You know, they hold hearings over things on Capitol Hill.
Far less significant than whether or not the chairmber of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff created an extra constitutional communication
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channel around the command or in chief having to do
with a possible military or even nuclear first strike. That's
a big deal. Yeah, And again, I think the big
deal that we talked about as this story emerged, and
you know this better than most, having been an intelligence
is imagine how this back channel conversation scrambles all Chinese
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analysis of American power and how that can then lead
to a further miscalculation in the event. Or heck, maybe
it helps to explain the aggressiveness towards Hong Kong. Maybe
it helps to explain the aggressiveness towards Taiwan is that
we have so neutered ourselves and our own president in
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private conversations with China that Chinese leadership knows that America
doesn't have the backbone to stand up to them at all,
and certainly that's the case with Joe Biden, who frankly
doesn't have the backbone to hardly stand up and answer
ten minutes of questions from the media without getting his
mic cut off or without being told that he shouldn't
be doing it. I want to hear from all of
you on this one eight two eight two two eight
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eight two on the lines and come back more on Milly,
the national security deep state and what it means for
us going forward, plus the border, which is an issue
that Clay and I like to try to focus on
because the mainstream media, pardon me, the Democrat aligned corporate media,
because why do we say their mainstream the Democrat media
(11:12):
doesn't want you to know that right now, there are
thousands and thousands of apprehended illegal immigrants crowded under highly overpasses,
all bunched in together. Are they COVID testing them? Are
they releasing them in the United States? Is there any
real process to deal with this? Don't ask any question,
asking any questions as racist, of course, as you know,
if you ask any questions at our southern border not allowed.
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The media will say you're racist, but we've got the
numbers on that, and Senator Ted Cruz will be joining
in the third hour two oh five Eastern time to
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get to it. Jim in North Rockford, Illinois was up. Jim, Hey, guys,
doing a great job. I think you've learned to throw
an interjective point on this general Millie deal. I mean,
I just want to know, let's take this one step further.
If he had called China and said that he was
willing to give them an advanced notice on any type
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of conflict, nuclear or even anything big conventionally, I mean,
what was his next step to take over as a coup,
to actually run the thing. I mean, he's now taking
controls out of the president of the United States stands
and I mean, and if it was I understand that.
Thanks thanks for the call. I understand that argument. I
don't think he's going to be effectively staging a coup
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right like as in trying to get soldiers to line
up behind him. But the functional nature of what he's
doing is effectively putting his own military judgment above that
of the commander in chief, which directly contradicts the hierarchy
of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and is a
direct attack upon the constitutional nature of the government. There's
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a difference between that and you know, I think if
you play it out, Okay, let's let's say that the unthinkable,
I mean, the truly unthinkable happen, and Trump did give
some order for you know, there needs to be a
strike on the Chinese fleet in the South China Sea. Right.
Let's say Trump did that, and then Millie says, no, okay,
(14:29):
well what you know, how does where does that go? Right?
I think the answer is probably that because Millie serves
under the Defense Secretary, that Trump would have the Defense
Secretary order Millie to do that. The bigger issue is,
though we don't know that Millie's espionage or subterfuge would
have ever been uncovered. Right, because let's say that we
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are decide we're going to strike a ship it's a
good example in the South China Sea, and then Millie
gives that knowledge to the Chinese. First of all, they
could be sitting there waiting to fire back at us
before we get there. They could preemptively attack us. We
would not necessarily know how they became aware of this
going on. It all sounds so crazy, But what I
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just meant is that in a world where you're crazy
enough to believe that Trump would do this, how do
we know that you're not also crazy enough to say
that there needs you know, the twenty fifth Amendment needs
to be invoked, and you know you're gonna make some declaration.
I mean, if you think that Trump, all I'm trying
to say is if you really believe, as apparently Milly did,
that Trump would launch a war with China because he
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was in a bad mood, Yes, you'll believe anything, and
you're willing to probably do anything there in the idea
in the service of what you think is saving your country.
So I think, well, not only that he's I come
back to the fact that he's bragging or his interstartacle
is as if he's a hero, which is not. Also,
as I've said, I think you're gonna say it's not
a bad move, he's gonna give it, give it six months,
this guy will be at the Aspen Institute and every
(15:56):
lib who watches Tapper and mattaw will be cheering for
what a hero he is. Jim in North Sorry, we
just had Jim right. We got Mike in Barkhamstead, Connecticut.
What's up Mike day? Guys. I'll tell you what I
want to tell you one thing real quick is when
Rush passed away, man, I was like devastated. I said,
we got nothing now, and they couldn't have picked a
better replacement than you. Guys. We just we're just trying
(16:20):
to keep the fight going. I'm in a democratic state
of Connecticut. God bless me. Anyways, But a couple of
quick hits. Uh. I think the head of the snake
in this whole thing. I think Millie needs to be prosecuted.
But why doesn't Nancy PELOCHI show up in every single investigation.
It's a great question to be investigated, a great question.
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Next segment, your next segment coming up, and then I'll
let you guys go on with this. The CDC said
two weeks ago they have to stop the flights from
his Afghanistan or settle them back because the disease is well,
what about the people coming in at the bordered and
why aren't we doing that there? Yeah, I think they're
worried about measles or something like that. For I'm Afghanistan.
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Thank you. By the way, they aren't testing anybody at
the board. Remember there was that snarky Jensaki response when
it was pointed out the border is a giant open
door of future Democrat voters Afghanistan. That whole situation. Yeah,
people might say that a lot of them will will
end up voting Democrat, but they're not as willing to
(17:22):
go to the extreme length they are to ignore common sense,
ignore what they're doing to the American people in terms
of the testing and regulations the border clay. They want
to keep this highway. Look, they want to keep the
highway of illegals flowing. They don't want it to stop. Well,
they're trying under their three point five trillion dollar budget
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monster numbers in August. I think we're gonna have a
lot in September as well. I'm gonna talk about the
People's Republic of Los Angeles and what exactly is going
on with the La County vaccine mandate that became an
announced rule guess what immediately after Gavin Newsome situation. But
first let's take a call Paul in Toronto, Canada has
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been waiting with us for a little while. Paul, which
you got for us? Hey, thank you guys for having
me on your shoe. I'm an infatus dis zess epidemiologist
with expertise in COVID. I've been working in the FOB
nineteen months, so I wanted to just raise the points here.
I'll folk us My work is in early treatment, which
(20:02):
is that early treatment existed absent of the vaccine that
we could have used to close this thing out. I'm
seeing here openly. I'm sharing my view base and all
of the science. Right now. Children are not candidates for
these vaccines and the circumstance they have not been safety
tested the vaccines they provide no opportunity for benefit for children,
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only potential opportunity for harms, and we are seeing the
harms that have emerged in the C disease VIAS database
and the adverse events the deaths. This is a very
serious issue and children have an actual protection that if
we bypass it and we inject into the deltoid into
the arm, we could get levels of death occurring in
(20:47):
children the United States similar to what we've seen in
the adults reported in the cdcase adverse database, which only
captures one percent, and already we are fourteen thousand deaths.
The purpose of this call is this, when we look
at the Israeli data today, we see that the Israel
implemented is booster program tild shots August one. When we
(21:09):
plot the graphs, we saw that the infections were going
up steadily. But what is very interesting and staggering is
if you look at August one onwards to now, you
see that the infections have exploded. In fact, what is
showing is that the booster program, the tilt shot, not
(21:29):
only did not stop the transmission, it exploded the transmission.
And we are arguing that the vaccinated persons are carrying
such a high viral load in their mouths and the
all cavities and nasals for injured passage. They are contributing
to the spread. This is not a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
This has been false by the CDCNNIH. This is a
(21:50):
pandemic of the vaccinated. Because when you look at the
data out of the UK, most up to dated data
is up today, we see that the persons who have
died infected with DELTA, seventy percent of the deaths reported
by Britain today today are those who are double vaccinated.
(22:11):
So what the media is saying is a complete misleading
to the public. And there's a recent study very seminal
out of Coach Human City, Vietnam. They had sixty nine
healthcare workers who were confined today facility for two weeks
lockdown and these healthcare workers were double vaccinated. What did
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they find. They find with this lockdown that the healthcare
workers all transmitted the virus to each other because they
typed the virus molecularly to see so the spread was
within that facility. But more importantly, the research publishing land
set showed that the healthcare workers had a viral load
(22:54):
two hundred and fifty one times two hundred and fifty
one times. I allude for the delta. But Paul, Paul,
can I ask Paul can? I ask you how? Just
and just so, because forever listening, you're you've called it
and you said you're an epidemiologist based in Canada. Clearly
you're very conversant in the studies and the situation going
on here. How is it possible medically, Let's just say possible,
(23:17):
not proven yet that somebody who would be vaccinated could
have two hundred and fifty times more viral particle than
somebody who's unvaccinated exposed the virus, because you just give
us an understanding of how that could happen. Well, okay,
but first of all, I do have expertise, and I
live in the United States. I'm in Toronto today. Oh
I'm sorry, I thought you're canad Canada base. But good,
(23:39):
go ahead, Yeah, no, no, but I'm an infectiously is epidemiologist. Okay.
The reality is that we've always known don't you never
ever vaccinate during an ongoing epidemic or pandemic. That is
a virologist greatest fear, because you drive the emergence of
the vin De variance. And I mutation. It is vaccination.
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You're putting evolutionary selection pressure on the pathogen, and it
is selecting variants that are highly more infects US not
lethal because it does not want to kill the host.
It wants to survive. So it's mutating downwards Mueller's ratchet.
It will mutate downwards highly infects US and those that
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are highly infects us very ease of transmission will be
selected forward and those are the ones that are going
to be the new dominant variant. So we were doing that.
We always had about twelve variants in the background that
in India, etc. And in the end vaccinating design of
vacts as an example, and then the delta spread it
became the dominant variant for exactly how I just explained.
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And then what we are realizing now is the defisor
vaccine that we have existing right now in the United States,
clearly in Israel, because Fiser vaccine is the Israeli vaccine,
it just does not hit the delta anymore. They del
bypasses the antibodies the vaccine produces, so you are literally
at zero when you take a vaccine today. You need
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to understand something. The Wuhan strain, the wuhan, the original
strain February twenty twenty was what operation works. We built
those vaccines on. What we have existing today is the
delta variant That wuhan is long gone a year now,
doesn't exist. You are being vaccinated for a vaccine that
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will fail. I want you to listen to my words.
Will fail and those doing it, those in public, how
the medical doctors know this. There is no vaccine that
could confer immunity like naturally acquired immunity. Those with natural immunity.
And a thing to show you. Gazette at All just
(25:49):
published a paper preprint out of Israel. And why Israel
again is because if you are was the first out
of the box with FISA, has the most complete data,
the most population vaccinated today. They just published a study
that was stunning and it should turn this whole vaccine
issue on his head now and should stop this garbage
by the CDC and NIH about natural immunity is not
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a prominent tissue and doesn't really exist. That is bogast BS.
So let me just ask you this is this You've
obviously shared a lot of information from your perspective with us, Paul,
let me just ask you this science. It's not my perspective, Yes, okay, data,
I'm just giving you decide that you don't hear. I
appreciate that. Is it your perspective, then, based on your
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knowledge and expertise, that the only way to end COVID
in the United States or anywhere in the world is
natural immunity. Well, first of all, to as I appeared
on Ross three times before, God bless him. I admire
that man. Anyway, let me answer you a question. The
only way to end this today with the delta is this,
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we strongly double down, triple down protection of the high
risk elderly in the nursing homes for the time. We
have never done it in the United States, Canada, Britain.
Our nursing homes have been the killing fields. We need
to step up and do it first. That is primary.
While we are protecting the elderly for the first time,
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we implement some quick public service on Vitamin D tell
in the public, get your house in order, fitness wise
cut fifteen to twenty pounds. Obesity has emerged as the
principle superloaded risk factor. Third, while we are doing that,
we offer the elderly nursing homes early outpatient treatment. We
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have anti virals at work. We give it to them
if they get infected. While we will get them through
the infection, they will clear it. They will become naturally
immune and survive no hospitalization or death. That's the problem.
When we put them in the hospitals, they will die
at the emergency room door. You're forty percent increase rise,
and Fourth. The last part of this puzzle is you
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allow the rest of the society, the infants, the children,
the teenagers, the young, the middle age, who are healthy
and well. You allow the well in society to live
a largely unfettered life free, no masks, free, and let
them face the pathogen like we've done for every pathogen.
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They will become population level naturally immune. And there is
no vaccine, not these narrow spike specific conferred vaccine immunity
that is bogus. Natural immunity is robust, complete, durable, and lifelong.
We have evidence today of people with nineteen eighteen Spanish
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flu Paul. We are seeing that the immunity has survived
one hundred years. Paul. Really, we appreciate the whirlwind of
information and analysis here, we do have to have to
get to our commercials. Thank you so much though for
being with us calling in Claire. You know, we can
unpack this a little bit in a minute. Also, I
think we get that transcript. First of all, I want
to know because we have a lot of docks listening.
(29:04):
I just want to know, Okay, so this guy calls
an epidemiologist, obviously super articulate, smart guy, right so and
very conversed, and all that he ISRAELI dated everything else.
Are there other docks listening, I mean of our audience
who are like, yeah, this guy's right, this guy gets it.
I'm just curious that we can get a little bit
of that affirmation for only calls one. I mean, that's
not a bad idea. I mean, because I'm see that
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you're saying. All that he's saying tracks with I've read
and what I've heard from doctors in back channel. So
I'm wondering if anybody else who has an MD or
is an epidemiologist contract with some of this. But we'll
come back at you, man, that was a call that
was yeah, that was in fuego. We'll come back in
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in Clay Travis buck Sexton. We just had Paul in Toronto,
or he's in Toronto right now. He's not actually Canadian,
running through from his perspective everything COVID related. And we've
got a bunch of doctors who want to weigh in,
I believe, but we'll start with Julian in Tupelo, Mississippi. Julian,
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what did you think of Paul? Are you also a doctor? Yes,
I'm an internal medicine subspecialist. I'm a fellow of the
American College of Physicians. And I thought your guest from
Toronto just nailed it. I mean, I've been reading avidly
about this epidemic since it's outset. And there's another epidemiologist,
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a guy named John Iddis, yes at Stanford, who was
published right right in Slate in March that nailed what
the mortality rate of this virus is going to be
based on the diamond Princess of matiasm and yes, right,
so so yes, and what he said comports ee with
(31:59):
what I've seen and practice here. I've had patience guy
who had been previously vaccinated. I've seen some pretty serious
vaccine related Uh, toxicities and do you feel by the way, Julian,
we hear from a lot of doctors that they don't
feel like they can speak out because it's somewhat of
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it like science has a variety of perspectives and opinions.
And it's as if if you say anything other than
the vaccine is the greatest thing that's ever been existed
in human history. That you hear a monster who wants
grandparents to die? Yeah, right, right, Well, you know, fifty
years ago most physicians were in private practice and businessmen.
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Now most of them are are hired by corporate entities.
That's right. Now I work, I work for a corporate entity,
so I could be censored or censured. Well, thank you
for the call a couple of doctors. Thank you. Gretchen
in reading Pennsylvania Family Medical petitian or Gretchen and thanks
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so much. Hi, how are you? Thanks for taking my call?
So what do you think about our caller before? Totally
one hundred percent agree? Um, I actually am a local
tenants doctor and I have i'd worked over in the
prison system in Hawaii before the vaccination came out, and
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I obviously survived of the two hundred and ninety one
prison occupants. UM, they there was a eighteen that did
never got the virus, they should study them. And obviously
we're exposed to it and I had no one die.
But the therapy they were doing at the time was
convalescent plasma. UM didn't have really they weren't using the
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other cheaper and effective generic therapeutics. So does it track
for you what he said about the vaccinated because of
the because of the process of how viruses evolved and
react to vaccine during an ongoing pandemic, does it track
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that you could have people who are vaccinated who are
actually spreading, who have a higher viral load to spread,
while in many cases having no symptoms. Does that medically
make sense to you as a possibility. You can be
an asymptomatic shedder, you can shed the virus, yes, but
could it be in greater numbers though, for the vaccinated
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in some cases than the unvaccinated, Because that was the
claim that he made. That is what's happening if this
is a disease as the vaccinated at this point, because
I mean I am not vaccinated and I obviously was
exposed to corus. You have natural antibodies, then yourself I
haven't gotten checked. I have not gotten checked, but I do.
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I mean, if I take care of myself, I eat,
try to eat properly. I'm not overweight, and I also
take this therapeutic, that vitamin D levels good, that nac
nac which there's been studied, obviously using that and elderly
to spite flu virus. Thank you. By the way, I
want to get too, sorry to cut you off, Gretcham,
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but I want to get to one more MD so
we can get three of them reacting Michael and Auburn,
California reacting to the call from Paul. We need you
to be a little bit fast here because we're finishing
off the hour. But did you agree with the substance
of what he was saying? The answer is yes. In short,
and I'll make this quick so I don't sound so pretentious.
I have two COVID treatment patents pending, and I have
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recently FDA proved investigational drug for cancer vaccine going into
trial soon. So not to sound pretentious, but I just
wanted to have that background. I'm writing a white paper
on this about first do no harm, and I think
what he was missing everything he said I agreed with
but I think he was missing a few things to
help the people understand what's going on. If you look
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at your whole hand and consider that the virus and
those spike proteins you've heard about, or the fingers, you're
only vaccinated with the fingernail. When someone is naturally immune,
they make annibody against the whole hand, including the fingers.
So it's also less likely that that will have a
chance to mutate, but it is more likely to mutate
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and give you some variance in the vaccinated people and
then naive meaning unaffected. Hey, the virus is happy, it's
not even going to mutate. Did that make some sense? Yes,
it does make sense, And I've heard, by the way, Michael,
I've heard other mds that I know personally explained it
in a very similar fashion. So we could just say, hey,
call in and analyze an incredibly detailed call whether or
(36:33):
not it's true. Fantastic Ted cruise. Next, you're listening to
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