September 20, 2021 • 37 mins
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CNN: Pfizer says vaccine safe for kids 5-11 years old. Fauci, NIH director on booster data. Glenn Greenwald on the corrupt covid politics of the left. San Francisco Mayor Breed says she was "feeling the spirit," not worrying about masks, contrasted with child crying as forcibly masked by adult. Fauci still has no answer on natural immunity. C&B take calls. Psaki defends the indefensible.
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of megaphones as the case might be. On CNN right
now you have the headline Fiser vaccine safe for children
five to eleven and well tolerated. I just want everyone
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to be paying close attention here because what you are
seeing is, oh, the boosters. The FDA is backing off
on the boosters being recommended, which remember the recommendation always
turns into amendate, right, they recommend you do the following
very quickly, staying if people don't do it, so it's
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not you know, it's an offer you can refuse to
borrow from Don corleone. Yeah, better do this or else.
And they're gonna do this with boosters. I believe in
time with the Clay's point I think is well taken
and correct that if we happen to see a as
Faucci would call it, a diminution of cases, also known
as cases going down. Facci loves that word. Listen for it,
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you'll hear it if there's a diminution. But if the
cases go down into the winter time for whatever reason,
I think it's unlikely. But if that happens, maybe you
won't get boosters. We get it, we get a surge,
another Faucci word, we're gonna being boosters. But right now, Clay,
they're they're trying to convince everybody that six and seven
and eight year olds. We did the numbers before. Yes,
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are needing to get this shot in their arms. And reminder, folks,
this is not going to be like the initial days
of the vaccine for adults, where it was you know,
we don't want man no, no no, no. Once the FDA
approves visor for your six year old, it's gonna be
can't go to daycare or I don't know when kid
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starts school because I don't have any yet working on it,
but you know, you know, a long way hopefully from
having kids. I get married first, I'm working on it.
I'm working. I'm all the path. So anyway point here
being Clay, they're gonna be telling you if you're gonna
have your kid, you're eight year old, you're nine year
old in school, kids gotta get the shot then there
and they're already saying it's just like MMR and here's fauci.
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Just everyone remembers on the booster flip flop. No. I mean,
I you know when I was saying that mistake my
own personal looking at this again, just because I look
at a data and say I would do it this way.
That's the reason why we have qualified groups of people
who together as a committee examine all the data and
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make a decision. So I have no problem at all
with their decision. The thing that I'm saying is that
data will continue to come in, and I believe you're
going to see an evolution of this process as we
go on in the next several weeks to months. It's
important to Notebuck, this wasn't like some close decision right now.
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They voted, and again I've seen it reported two different ways,
sixteen to three or sixteen to two against recommending boosters.
If I got destroyed like that by a group of
my peers after I had gone public like Fauci had
and said, hey, the data is all clear, everybody has
to get a booster and then all these other scientists
looked at it and voted against me sixteen to two
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or sixteen to three, I'd feel like I got smacked
down pretty significant. Let's think about this one for a second, though, Clay,
How is it even remotely feasible that they can know
efficacy and risk profile of booster shots that until a
couple of months ago they were pretending there was no
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way we were going to need It's just you don't
have to be This goes back to know when people
are lying to you know, when something smells funky. You
and I have smelled that funky smell from the very
beginning of COVID from people like Fauchi. Right, We've known
there's something up. When they tell you that they could
know both the need for and the safety of booster shots,
they are extrapolating. Notice how Fauci also makes a pretty
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big admission here. He goes, you know, we're looking at
the different data, all the different numbers, and coming to
a conclusion. Rooms full of bureaucrats like the one he's
talking about, are making determinations, and then Clay, they act
like it's the equivalent for a Catholic of the Pope
speaking ex cathedra, as in, this is the word of
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God from on high to all of you, and it
is forever true and is irrevocable. That's just not accurate
at all about these prognostications about boosters, which we know
because Biden weeks ago was like here again boosters. I
also want to point out, as I think it's significant
if only two or three people are supporting the idea
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of boosters. This also lets you know that Fauci is
not a mainstream advocate, he's far on the side of
more treatment, right. I mean, if there are almost twenty
different experts and we put experts in quotations looking at
this data and making a determination, and the vast majority
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of them are making the opposite recommendation from what doctor
Fauci is saying, Do we really want an activist in
terms of COVID policy that's way in front of where
everybody else in the country should be. And then when
we get lectured by the checkmark brigade for not following
the science, is at Fauci himself not following the science
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if they're all repudiating his advice. Well, there's also an
admission here which you rarely get, that these are judgment calls,
that they are balancing out different interests and risk factors
and numbers, and there's a lot of unknowns. People used
to make fun of the Runsfeld, you know, known unknowns,
unknown unknowns. It's actually a pretty good framework for understanding
certain problem sets because what you don't know you don't
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know can often be the thing that's the biggest problem, which,
by the way, I think we've seen with some of
the vaccination stuff. Here here though, is the NIH director
because these guys are starting to feel the heat. If
you're a person who is capable of thinking for yourself,
you have at a minimum enormous questions about Faucci's credibility
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and others around him. You know, the head of the CDC,
for example, Wilenski, the head of the NIH here stepping
out to say, yeah, if you want certain to go
to China. This is what they're actually saying that We'll
have to see what they say ultimately about the youngest
individuals because of concerns about benefits and risks. But I
will be surprised if boosters are not recommended for people
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under sixty five going forward in the next few weeks.
But we'll wait and see. You know, Chris, what you're
seeing here is science playing out in a very transparent way.
This is the way it ought to be. I'm a
little trouble that people are complaining that the process isn't
working for them. The process is to look at the data,
have the experts considerate, and then make their best judgment
at that point, recognizing that the judgments may change. If
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people want an absolutely authoritative statement about here's the right answer, Well,
that's not what our country is all about moved to China.
You'll get it there. What a smug jackass play. This
guy runs the National Institutes of Health. Also, there isn't
a consensus from science either, and I understand his argument
there science is messy, but he's pushing against the idea
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of science being messy by saying everybody has to make
the exact same decision when we tell you to make
the decision right, Science is messy. If you listen to
doctor Ionidas, if you listen to doctor Mockery, if you
listen to the Great Barrington Declaration individuals, if you listened
frankly to so many doctors that you and I talked
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to Buck who agree with a lot of what we say,
but don't feel like they have the freedom to speak
out and say what they believe. There is an authoritarian
bent here. Science has stifled anyone who is a dissenter
and not allowed them to speak out, which, frankly, is
why I was so surprised that the FDA made the
recommendation that they did and spoke out against the recommendations
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of doctor Fauci so significantly, because they were clearly trying
to pressure them to make a choice. That's what Brenson
told us on Friday, So can you imagine if Trump
had gotten that far out in front of where the
FDA was and basically tried to bully them into making
a decision about boosters like this. But I think the
initial point that you've made clay to me and that
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we've been talking about on air today, whereby they have
to keep something, will learn the toolkit, yes, because remember
that's what a lot that's what got all this started.
You had a lot of public health experts who were
sitting on these multi billion dollar budgets who were unwilling
to come forward and say, honestly, there's not much we
can do. A lot of people are gonna get this.
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Do your best, try to stay healthy, stay away from
sick people, and godspeed. They could have said that, you know,
or they could have done a focused protection plan by
going for the data showing that the elderly sixty five
and up, seventy five and up were particularly it's really
seventy five and up two as you say from the
death chart, you know, people that are seventy five eighty
five plus is where you have a big spike in
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the mortality rate here. So that's you should focus on
trying to protect from the virus more than more than
anybody else. But you know, Clay the Glenn Greenwald, a
man firmly of the left out. If you saw I
just I just shared this on Twitter. I wanted to
share with everybody else in respond to the twenty twenty
one Emmys where everyone's maskless indoors and it's all, oh,
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look at us, We're glitzy and glamorous and fancy, sophisticated,
vaccinated and fantasy. Yes, Greenwald retweeted this, and he wrote
the following, you can say it every day and it
still won't be enough. The liberal discourse and policymaking around
COVID has no relationship whatsoever to science. It has a
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lot to do with culture, politics, hierarchy, psychology, and control,
but science and health are totally absent. And quote that's
I mean, that's like a mantra of this show. Now
for the months that we've been on this is not
about This is not driven primarily by keeping you safe, folks.
This is about controlling you and political power through the
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lens of COVID intervention and mitigation. Yeah, and when we
come back, I want to play the audio of san
Francisco Mayor and London Breed for everybody out there who
may not have heard it yet, because if you'll remember,
last Friday, we pointed out that she had been caught
indoors violating her own mask mandate, as by the way,
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everyone at the Emmy's was. But when you actually hear
her defending that decision, you are going to finally say,
we've reached the point where basically people who are Democrats
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than a human being should be allowed times too Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Fund the EID Network. Welcome back
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in We are rolling through third hour Monday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us and finding hypocrisy and exposing
it should be the media's job, one of the primary
jobs out there. And certainly the hypocrisy associated with COVID
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has been off the charts, particularly from Democrats, but from
many different public health effect officials who have claimed that
COVID was wildly more dangerous than the data would reflect.
And we talked about and again I would encourage you
to go look at this data for yourself if you
have already the children death we shared. Phil Kirpin did
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a great graphic looking at age of death since COVID
started last year, all the way up basically to the
present day. And you can look at the child data yourself.
But the fact that we are continuing to mask kids. Buck,
you talked about the great piece in the New York
Post that said, essentially there's no way to justify it
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at all, not only in this country, but comparing this
country with all other sort of first world countries around
the globe. It doesn't make sense. They've all stopped doing
it because they've come to realize, based on the actual data,
that it does not make any sense. And then the
people that I get really angry at, and that was
Carol Markowitz who wrote that piece of the New York
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Post where she says it's like a form of sadism. Now, yes,
and also it's almost as though a certain kind of
Democrat leftist feels like this is an opportunity to show
their fealty to fauci is m. I'm even willing to
mask up my child in order to show how seriously,
remember how it was about how seriously you take the
virus and clay the people who pretend like this does
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not come with a cost. I mean, we actually have
audio of a kid crying at a daycare as some
daycare worker is like, you know, strapping a mask and
pulling it on his face. It is horrible. I mean,
someone tried to do that to me as an adult,
I'd punched them in the mouth. Let's listen to that
audio in a second, but first let's listen to New York.
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I mean San Francisco Mayor London Breed, who is saying, hey,
basically I was in such a good mood. Why in
the world would I wear a mask? And then we'll
also let you hear what happens when a two year
old is trying to be masked, and think about the dichotomy.
Here an adult can make a choice, a kid can't.
Here's San Francisco may or London breed. I got up
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and started dancing because I was feeling the spirit and
I wasn't thinking about a mask. I was thinking about
having a good time, and in the process, I was
following the health orders. I'm vaccinated. I don't need to
wear a mask and take a picture every single time.
I don't want to. But at the same time, I'm
being careful to not only protect myself and to protect
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other people. This is nippicking. This is really unfortunate. And
let me tell you when the spirit moves you because
you are watching history in the making Bay Area Royalty
perform I don't know about you, but I'm not going
to turn around and look for where my mask is
when I come to see you, and we would come
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to meet up in Alabama to go to the big
football game a couple of weeks. Here, I'm just gonna
tell the airline. Excuse me, I'm moved by the spirit.
I'm I'm jamming out to some tunes on my AirPods
or whatever, and I'm moved by the spirit. No mask,
that would be fantastic. I would love to hear what happened,
and you would never be allowed on the airline again.
But and we're making fun of London Breed, the mayor
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of San Francisco for not being willing to follow We
should point out her own cities eidelines that she is
in charge of implementing. But this has real consequences when
we insist on the application of these rules to young children.
Listen to this kid who's being forced to wear a mask.
It's tough to listen to, but I think it's important
to put it in context. Having just heard what the
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mayor of San Francisco said, do you think this kid
is feeling the spirit? You think this kid wants to
be wearing this mask? It's my brother's name, and uh,
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this is madness. Not gonna keep anybody safe, not going
to keep anybody madness, Clay, That's what I mean. It's
it's not even like they're doing something where we're sitting
here saying Wow, it's kind of harsh, and you know,
but but at least we know does nothing, does nothing.
And it's so hard to hear that. I think as
a parent, because if you got kids in daycare, you
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There's no doubt about that. The durability is unclear. There's
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and recover and get vaccinated, the level of your immunity
is extraordinarily high, surpassing any of the other two dose
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vaccines that you get. Play and Buck show here and
Clay you know there, we had to vouch doing the
usual dance on TV. He's saying, we don't know that
was about natural immunity, something you and I have been
pushing here, and every doc that I know that listens
to this show that's reached out on this issue has said,
essentially with one voice, thank you for bringing up this
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thing that the administration was pretending didn't matter until about
five minutes ago, because it's reckless and it's wrong, and
it's not about science. It's about politics and policymaking for
the Democrat Party. But Faucci saying, we don't know how
long natural immunity lasts, so that's kind of the and
then we know that the vaccine on top of natural
immunity makes things so much better. Okay, first of all,
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they don't know how long the vaccine lasts, that's for sure.
And also, okay, how much better is it reasonable to
make people that have natural immunity get the shot so
they could have what maybe an additional five or ten?
I mean, how much additional protection do they have? They
don't know, Clay, And if they did know, we would
know because there would be numbers and real data attach
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to some of this, and there's not. Yeah, and I
think focusing on not knowing how long natural immunity last.
On Friday, we played a clip from last year of
Fauci saying that if it's like any other virus, the
natural immunity would last a really long time. But also
we know, as we pointed out Friday, that the vaccine
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doesn't last very long. So trying to undercut the idea
of natural immunity by saying we know it doesn't last
very long for we don't know how long it last
is defeating the entire purpose, right, I mean, it's hard
to come up with any other idea than they think
it undercuts the idea of vaccination, because remember, we're at
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seventy six percent of adults have had at least one
shot now, and they keep saying the unvaccinated are the
other twenty four percent. I think there's probably a pretty
substantial portion of that twenty four percent that's already had COVID.
So what percentage of people, and this is the data
we should have that we don't have that they have
in England, for instance, what percentage of people now in
America Buck have some form of antibody immunity here, either
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from the vaccine or natural. It's got to be over
ninety percent. That's going to happen. I mean, just just
remember this as another Buck prediction for the future. What's
going to happen is eventually case it'll be very low.
There won't be the same level of outbreaks. It's assuming
there's not you know, antibody dependent enhanced been a new variance,
and all kinds of crazy things. But I try to
be as optimistic as I can under the crazy circumstances
we have here. But at some point we will have
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so much natural and durable immunity in the population overall
from people just getting infected over the course of about
two years of this thing, and viruses historically often have
about a two year life cycle of spread the same
strain of virus throughout throughout a community. Then they'll say,
see all of our mitigation, all of our shots, all
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of our masking, it finally worked once and then and
then that point some people say, hold on a second,
it finally worked. I mean, if two hundred and fifty
million people out of three hundred and thirty got infected
with COVID, is that really intervention and mitigation working, because
that seems like interesting with it. So that's what I
think is going to happen. And also, Clay, nothing is perfect.
I mean, if you do a little bit of deep
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diving on this, you find out really quickly, not only
can chicken pox come back, and it often does when
people are older with week in immune systems as shingles,
you can actually get the chicken pox again. It can happen.
It's very very rare. But does anyone surround who's had
chicken pox worried about being the one in a million
that gets a second case of chicken pox. No, not
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only that Buck as was pointed out to us, the
CDC actually specifically recommends that you don't need to get
a chicken pox vaccine if you had chicken pox before, right,
Meaning there's a huge percentage of our listenership out there
who are either older than us or I don't know
when did the chicken pox vaccine start to really get
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widely distributed. You're probably twenty five years old, you might
have gotten the chicken pox vaccine, but I bet if
you're thirty or thirty five, you probably didn't. I know,
we didn't have it when I was I'm forty two,
and you didn't have it when you were a kid.
So the vast majority I would imagine of our listenership
had chicken pox at some point in their life never
never got the vaccine. So why does the CDC recommend
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if you had COVID you need to get a vaccine,
but the exact opposite for chicken pox doesn't make any sense.
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call in, now is the time. Kate in Houston, Texas,
got some chicken pox thoughts. Oh yeah, I got a
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lot to say. I'm just sorry. I just took my
vitamin D medication, But I just wanted to tell you
that you are right on. Our kids do not need
this because they have a natural immunity system and they
have more cells than us, at least thirty times more
than us because none of those chicken pox parties in
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the seventies. I know, I do. Yeah, I was exposed
twice when I was five years old, and guess what,
I had to sit for a patient here at the
hospital wish shingles. But guess what, my hairs didn't know that,
so she sent me to employee health and it turns
out that I actually have an immunity to chicken pox.
Because of that long story short, our kids don't need it.
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Vaccines in the nineties actually helped with that chicken pox
because it's took twelve years to develop. But that's what's
important with it. So all right, thank you for the
cool I just think again, the point is, if you
look at the data, and I would encourage you to
look at the Phil Kirpin data that we were talking
about earlier in the show. And that we shared with
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mortality rates for COVID based on age by year. Right,
so you can look at how many two year olds
have died, how many four year olds, how many eighty
four year olds. You can look at all of that,
and if you do, I don't understand how any parent
could look at that data your kids. I want to
keep hammering this home because people don't realize that your
kids are more likely to die driving two or from school,
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your kids are more likely to be murdered, your kids
are more likely to die of the seasonal flu than
they are from COVID. And then there's been mandate the
flu shot for kids. There's been a reckless and dishonest
campaign of hypervent to lating disinformation from people that it
has really become a kind of religion. It really has
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turned into an issue of faith for people, fauciism, lockdown riism,
whatever you want to call it. And there's such an
identification now, a political and tribal identification with the people
who just do all the things that the apparatus tells
them to do and they don't want to believe in clay.
This is I think one of the big problems. They
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don't ever want to wake up, and I have to
say to themselves, Wow, you mean all those times I
was jogging with two masks on outside, I was actually
being an idiot who doesn't know how to think for
himself or herself. Nobody ever wants to believe that, even
if it means that they get freedom from mask going forward.
You know, people everyone thinks they're smart, everyone thinks that
they can think through problems, and it's embarrassing, right there
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a lot of people who should be And I think
masking up your kid voluntarily for people that are on
the plane and stuff, I know they use force to
make you. That's different. Voluntarily masking up your children should
embarrass parents of good sense. They should feel embarrassed. And
there's lots of people out there who've basically given up
two years of their life. I mean, what's two years
of your life worth if you lived it completely based
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on fear and that fear was totally not justified based
on the data. And also I think is going to
have lingering long term effects on children because we're teaching
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We've been talking about the hypocrisy of the Democratic Party
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as it pertains to the border where you can cross
without being tested for COVID at all, despite the fact
that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people have
done so over the last year. Whereas if you're vacationing
in Mexico, you have to get a test to come back.
If you're coming in from Europe, you have to get
a test or be a COVID vaccinated in order to
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come into this country now under new policies. Well, Jinsaki
was asked about that by Fox News. Is Peter Doocey
and this is what it sounded like. Somebody into the
country right across the river, does somebody ask them to
see their vaccination party. Well, let me explain to you again,
Peter Howard. Process works. As individuals come across the border,
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they are both assessed for whether they have any symptoms.
If they have symptoms, they are the intention is for
them to be quarantined. That is our process. They're not
intending to stay here for a lengthy period of time.
I don't think it's the same thing. It's not the
same thing. These are individuals. As we've Newton, and as
we've been discussed, we are expelling individuals based on Title
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forty two, specifically because of COVID, because we want to
prevent a scenario where large numbers of people are gathering
posing a threat to the community and also to the
migrants themselves. I mean, she's just it's like delusional at
some point. First of all, most of the family units
and there's still a lot of family unit showing up,
are let into the US clay, so start with that,
more than half of them. The numbers that I've seen
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for people studying this are about sixty to seventy percent
of the family units on any given day. Are just
being told, go ahead and trust us when we tell you,
folks that they're planning on staying in the US a
very long time. Yes, And look, this is an indefensible
position to have to defend, and I'm sure Jansaki knows that.
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And this is just one of the litany of disasters
that is facing Joe Biden right now, but it's one
that is wildly and clearly and blatantly hypocritical. And I
and when we talk about why these sort of situations matter,
why does it matter that the Emmys occur and none
of the stars are wearing masks? I don't. I think
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they should be able to have the Emmys, by the way,
and not be able to I want no one wearing
Maybe healthcare, maybe healthcare settings with people at high risk.
That's it. Why does it matter if London breed the
mayor of San Francisco is flagrantly violating her own restrictions.
Why does it matter that the Biden administration has one
policy in place for COVID when it comes to crossing
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the border if you're an American citizen who went to
a resort in Mexico and another if you're walking across
the river the Rio Grand to enter into the Say,
you know how they're you know how they're going after
people for fake vaccine passports, and you know they're trying,
they're trying to make examples of people. You know, one
of the most common crimes that illegal immigrants commit on
a regular basis and are almost never prosecuted for document fraud, oaks,
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social security card fraud, all kinds of signal. I mean,
you know, they sign things under other names. They commit
fraud on a regular base. People say, oh, but they
have to work. Look, I'm just trying. Do we have
a set of rules or not. Don't tell me that
a CD you know a friend of mine, I may
or may not know some people with some fake cards.
I may or may not. I can neither confirm nor
deny that I know people with fake cards. Clay, but
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that's so terrible. Mar it's also serious. But forging documents,
if you're illegal in this country, that's that's totally fine. No,
I'm sorry, the laws of the law, it's not. Yeah,
and it ties in buck with Ultimately, this ends when
people say it has to end. And I talked about
this over the weekend. You you're up in New York City,
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where you have to have a vaccine passport in theory
to go to a restaurant, to go to a gym,
to go to a movie, to go to a sporting event,
any kind of major life event. Basically less than four
hours away. Buck in Happy Valley Pennsylvania. Over a nearly
one hundred and ten thousand people showed up for the
penn State game against Auburn, all sitting without masks, all
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in white. They did a white out, which was really cool.
But I couldn't stopped thinking about what different worlds were
living in right now. Where some people are have reached
the point where they say, hey, we're gonna live our
normal life, and there are so many other people out
there that are still terrified to live their normal life.
And it's often only a few miles that separates the
(34:30):
distance between the two. Dave in Ohio, what's going on, Dave?
I just wanted to say the thing that Fouci was
mentioning about how you're super vaccinated if you had your
antibodies or the COVID, and then also the shot not
necessarily true. My wife, she works in a lab. They
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just got the new machine in that they could test
antibodies in the hospital and Akron and they were testing
our lab of the families and stuff like that. Before
they go live with the machine, she had to get
the vaccine and we both had the COVID back in January.
She got the vaccine. Now she does not have any
natural antibodies, I still do she does not. All she
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has is the vaccine antibodies. I mean it's interesting. It's
certainly one case would be I mean one instance, I
should say Dave is anecdotal, but certainly, you know, interesting
to see where is the data clay on what the
vaccine does in addition to natural immunity. I mean, why
isn't it more readily available? Yeah, I think that's fantastic
data that we should have for sure. And also it's
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worth mentioning some people have antibodies and they may not
show up, especially if you had a natural infection. Based
on talking to some doctors, those things can show up
when you're actually exposed to the virus, right Like, you
don't necessarily have to have an exact antibody in your
blood at a particular point in time. Your body has
(35:58):
been trained to respond and so can produce faster based
on people I've talked to, So, uh, you know this,
this idea of antibody waning, we know occurs one hundred
percent with the vaccine. That's why they're talking about boosters.
That's what's happened in Israel, That's what's happened in England.
We one hundred percent know that we don't have good
enough data about natural immunity to sell immunity, which would
(36:20):
be which which has a longer memory generally in immunity
or amunology anyway, Wait, we're not gonna be able to
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of megaphones as the case might be. On CNN right
now you have the headline Fiser vaccine safe for children
five to eleven and well tolerated. I just want everyone
(01:03):
to be paying close attention here because what you are
seeing is, oh, the boosters. The FDA is backing off
on the boosters being recommended, which remember the recommendation always
turns into amendate, right, they recommend you do the following
very quickly, staying if people don't do it, so it's
(01:24):
not you know, it's an offer you can refuse to
borrow from Don corleone. Yeah, better do this or else.
And they're gonna do this with boosters. I believe in
time with the Clay's point I think is well taken
and correct that if we happen to see a as
Faucci would call it, a diminution of cases, also known
as cases going down. Facci loves that word. Listen for it,
(01:46):
you'll hear it if there's a diminution. But if the
cases go down into the winter time for whatever reason,
I think it's unlikely. But if that happens, maybe you
won't get boosters. We get it, we get a surge,
another Faucci word, we're gonna being boosters. But right now, Clay,
they're they're trying to convince everybody that six and seven
and eight year olds. We did the numbers before. Yes,
(02:09):
are needing to get this shot in their arms. And reminder, folks,
this is not going to be like the initial days
of the vaccine for adults, where it was you know,
we don't want man no, no no, no. Once the FDA
approves visor for your six year old, it's gonna be
can't go to daycare or I don't know when kid
(02:30):
starts school because I don't have any yet working on it,
but you know, you know, a long way hopefully from
having kids. I get married first, I'm working on it.
I'm working. I'm all the path. So anyway point here
being Clay, they're gonna be telling you if you're gonna
have your kid, you're eight year old, you're nine year
old in school, kids gotta get the shot then there
and they're already saying it's just like MMR and here's fauci.
(02:52):
Just everyone remembers on the booster flip flop. No. I mean,
I you know when I was saying that mistake my
own personal looking at this again, just because I look
at a data and say I would do it this way.
That's the reason why we have qualified groups of people
who together as a committee examine all the data and
(03:15):
make a decision. So I have no problem at all
with their decision. The thing that I'm saying is that
data will continue to come in, and I believe you're
going to see an evolution of this process as we
go on in the next several weeks to months. It's
important to Notebuck, this wasn't like some close decision right now.
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They voted, and again I've seen it reported two different ways,
sixteen to three or sixteen to two against recommending boosters.
If I got destroyed like that by a group of
my peers after I had gone public like Fauci had
and said, hey, the data is all clear, everybody has
to get a booster and then all these other scientists
looked at it and voted against me sixteen to two
(03:58):
or sixteen to three, I'd feel like I got smacked
down pretty significant. Let's think about this one for a second, though, Clay,
How is it even remotely feasible that they can know
efficacy and risk profile of booster shots that until a
couple of months ago they were pretending there was no
(04:18):
way we were going to need It's just you don't
have to be This goes back to know when people
are lying to you know, when something smells funky. You
and I have smelled that funky smell from the very
beginning of COVID from people like Fauchi. Right, We've known
there's something up. When they tell you that they could
know both the need for and the safety of booster shots,
they are extrapolating. Notice how Fauci also makes a pretty
(04:40):
big admission here. He goes, you know, we're looking at
the different data, all the different numbers, and coming to
a conclusion. Rooms full of bureaucrats like the one he's
talking about, are making determinations, and then Clay, they act
like it's the equivalent for a Catholic of the Pope
speaking ex cathedra, as in, this is the word of
(05:01):
God from on high to all of you, and it
is forever true and is irrevocable. That's just not accurate
at all about these prognostications about boosters, which we know
because Biden weeks ago was like here again boosters. I
also want to point out, as I think it's significant
if only two or three people are supporting the idea
(05:21):
of boosters. This also lets you know that Fauci is
not a mainstream advocate, he's far on the side of
more treatment, right. I mean, if there are almost twenty
different experts and we put experts in quotations looking at
this data and making a determination, and the vast majority
(05:43):
of them are making the opposite recommendation from what doctor
Fauci is saying, Do we really want an activist in
terms of COVID policy that's way in front of where
everybody else in the country should be. And then when
we get lectured by the checkmark brigade for not following
the science, is at Fauci himself not following the science
(06:05):
if they're all repudiating his advice. Well, there's also an
admission here which you rarely get, that these are judgment calls,
that they are balancing out different interests and risk factors
and numbers, and there's a lot of unknowns. People used
to make fun of the Runsfeld, you know, known unknowns,
unknown unknowns. It's actually a pretty good framework for understanding
certain problem sets because what you don't know you don't
(06:28):
know can often be the thing that's the biggest problem, which,
by the way, I think we've seen with some of
the vaccination stuff. Here here though, is the NIH director
because these guys are starting to feel the heat. If
you're a person who is capable of thinking for yourself,
you have at a minimum enormous questions about Faucci's credibility
(06:48):
and others around him. You know, the head of the CDC,
for example, Wilenski, the head of the NIH here stepping
out to say, yeah, if you want certain to go
to China. This is what they're actually saying that We'll
have to see what they say ultimately about the youngest
individuals because of concerns about benefits and risks. But I
will be surprised if boosters are not recommended for people
(07:10):
under sixty five going forward in the next few weeks.
But we'll wait and see. You know, Chris, what you're
seeing here is science playing out in a very transparent way.
This is the way it ought to be. I'm a
little trouble that people are complaining that the process isn't
working for them. The process is to look at the data,
have the experts considerate, and then make their best judgment
at that point, recognizing that the judgments may change. If
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people want an absolutely authoritative statement about here's the right answer, Well,
that's not what our country is all about moved to China.
You'll get it there. What a smug jackass play. This
guy runs the National Institutes of Health. Also, there isn't
a consensus from science either, and I understand his argument
there science is messy, but he's pushing against the idea
(07:55):
of science being messy by saying everybody has to make
the exact same decision when we tell you to make
the decision right, Science is messy. If you listen to
doctor Ionidas, if you listen to doctor Mockery, if you
listen to the Great Barrington Declaration individuals, if you listened
frankly to so many doctors that you and I talked
(08:16):
to Buck who agree with a lot of what we say,
but don't feel like they have the freedom to speak
out and say what they believe. There is an authoritarian
bent here. Science has stifled anyone who is a dissenter
and not allowed them to speak out, which, frankly, is
why I was so surprised that the FDA made the
recommendation that they did and spoke out against the recommendations
(08:40):
of doctor Fauci so significantly, because they were clearly trying
to pressure them to make a choice. That's what Brenson
told us on Friday, So can you imagine if Trump
had gotten that far out in front of where the
FDA was and basically tried to bully them into making
a decision about boosters like this. But I think the
initial point that you've made clay to me and that
(09:01):
we've been talking about on air today, whereby they have
to keep something, will learn the toolkit, yes, because remember
that's what a lot that's what got all this started.
You had a lot of public health experts who were
sitting on these multi billion dollar budgets who were unwilling
to come forward and say, honestly, there's not much we
can do. A lot of people are gonna get this.
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Do your best, try to stay healthy, stay away from
sick people, and godspeed. They could have said that, you know,
or they could have done a focused protection plan by
going for the data showing that the elderly sixty five
and up, seventy five and up were particularly it's really
seventy five and up two as you say from the
death chart, you know, people that are seventy five eighty
five plus is where you have a big spike in
(09:43):
the mortality rate here. So that's you should focus on
trying to protect from the virus more than more than
anybody else. But you know, Clay the Glenn Greenwald, a
man firmly of the left out. If you saw I
just I just shared this on Twitter. I wanted to
share with everybody else in respond to the twenty twenty
one Emmys where everyone's maskless indoors and it's all, oh,
(10:05):
look at us, We're glitzy and glamorous and fancy, sophisticated,
vaccinated and fantasy. Yes, Greenwald retweeted this, and he wrote
the following, you can say it every day and it
still won't be enough. The liberal discourse and policymaking around
COVID has no relationship whatsoever to science. It has a
(10:26):
lot to do with culture, politics, hierarchy, psychology, and control,
but science and health are totally absent. And quote that's
I mean, that's like a mantra of this show. Now
for the months that we've been on this is not
about This is not driven primarily by keeping you safe, folks.
This is about controlling you and political power through the
(10:48):
lens of COVID intervention and mitigation. Yeah, and when we
come back, I want to play the audio of san
Francisco Mayor and London Breed for everybody out there who
may not have heard it yet, because if you'll remember,
last Friday, we pointed out that she had been caught
indoors violating her own mask mandate, as by the way,
(11:08):
everyone at the Emmy's was. But when you actually hear
her defending that decision, you are going to finally say,
we've reached the point where basically people who are Democrats
can just say, hey, we'll do whatever we want and
not even try and defend the hypocrisy. I want you
(11:31):
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Travis and Buck Sexton Fund the EID Network. Welcome back
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in We are rolling through third hour Monday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us and finding hypocrisy and exposing
it should be the media's job, one of the primary
jobs out there. And certainly the hypocrisy associated with COVID
(13:42):
has been off the charts, particularly from Democrats, but from
many different public health effect officials who have claimed that
COVID was wildly more dangerous than the data would reflect.
And we talked about and again I would encourage you
to go look at this data for yourself if you
have already the children death we shared. Phil Kirpin did
(14:05):
a great graphic looking at age of death since COVID
started last year, all the way up basically to the
present day. And you can look at the child data yourself.
But the fact that we are continuing to mask kids. Buck,
you talked about the great piece in the New York
Post that said, essentially there's no way to justify it
(14:26):
at all, not only in this country, but comparing this
country with all other sort of first world countries around
the globe. It doesn't make sense. They've all stopped doing
it because they've come to realize, based on the actual data,
that it does not make any sense. And then the
people that I get really angry at, and that was
Carol Markowitz who wrote that piece of the New York
(14:47):
Post where she says it's like a form of sadism. Now, yes,
and also it's almost as though a certain kind of
Democrat leftist feels like this is an opportunity to show
their fealty to fauci is m. I'm even willing to
mask up my child in order to show how seriously,
remember how it was about how seriously you take the
virus and clay the people who pretend like this does
(15:11):
not come with a cost. I mean, we actually have
audio of a kid crying at a daycare as some
daycare worker is like, you know, strapping a mask and
pulling it on his face. It is horrible. I mean,
someone tried to do that to me as an adult,
I'd punched them in the mouth. Let's listen to that
audio in a second, but first let's listen to New York.
(15:31):
I mean San Francisco Mayor London Breed, who is saying, hey,
basically I was in such a good mood. Why in
the world would I wear a mask? And then we'll
also let you hear what happens when a two year
old is trying to be masked, and think about the dichotomy.
Here an adult can make a choice, a kid can't.
Here's San Francisco may or London breed. I got up
(15:51):
and started dancing because I was feeling the spirit and
I wasn't thinking about a mask. I was thinking about
having a good time, and in the process, I was
following the health orders. I'm vaccinated. I don't need to
wear a mask and take a picture every single time.
I don't want to. But at the same time, I'm
being careful to not only protect myself and to protect
(16:14):
other people. This is nippicking. This is really unfortunate. And
let me tell you when the spirit moves you because
you are watching history in the making Bay Area Royalty
perform I don't know about you, but I'm not going
to turn around and look for where my mask is
when I come to see you, and we would come
(16:34):
to meet up in Alabama to go to the big
football game a couple of weeks. Here, I'm just gonna
tell the airline. Excuse me, I'm moved by the spirit.
I'm I'm jamming out to some tunes on my AirPods
or whatever, and I'm moved by the spirit. No mask,
that would be fantastic. I would love to hear what happened,
and you would never be allowed on the airline again.
But and we're making fun of London Breed, the mayor
(16:55):
of San Francisco for not being willing to follow We
should point out her own cities eidelines that she is
in charge of implementing. But this has real consequences when
we insist on the application of these rules to young children.
Listen to this kid who's being forced to wear a mask.
It's tough to listen to, but I think it's important
to put it in context. Having just heard what the
(17:17):
mayor of San Francisco said, do you think this kid
is feeling the spirit? You think this kid wants to
be wearing this mask? It's my brother's name, and uh,
(17:44):
this is madness. Not gonna keep anybody safe, not going
to keep anybody madness, Clay, That's what I mean. It's
it's not even like they're doing something where we're sitting
here saying Wow, it's kind of harsh, and you know,
but but at least we know does nothing, does nothing.
And it's so hard to hear that. I think as
a parent, because if you got kids in daycare, you
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we don't. We're following that, but not yet. We do
know that when you do get infected, you get strong immunity.
There's no doubt about that. The durability is unclear. There's
another fact. We know that if you do get infected
and recover and get vaccinated, the level of your immunity
is extraordinarily high, surpassing any of the other two dose
(19:39):
vaccines that you get. Play and Buck show here and
Clay you know there, we had to vouch doing the
usual dance on TV. He's saying, we don't know that
was about natural immunity, something you and I have been
pushing here, and every doc that I know that listens
to this show that's reached out on this issue has said,
essentially with one voice, thank you for bringing up this
(20:02):
thing that the administration was pretending didn't matter until about
five minutes ago, because it's reckless and it's wrong, and
it's not about science. It's about politics and policymaking for
the Democrat Party. But Faucci saying, we don't know how
long natural immunity lasts, so that's kind of the and
then we know that the vaccine on top of natural
immunity makes things so much better. Okay, first of all,
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they don't know how long the vaccine lasts, that's for sure.
And also, okay, how much better is it reasonable to
make people that have natural immunity get the shot so
they could have what maybe an additional five or ten?
I mean, how much additional protection do they have? They
don't know, Clay, And if they did know, we would
know because there would be numbers and real data attach
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to some of this, and there's not. Yeah, and I
think focusing on not knowing how long natural immunity last.
On Friday, we played a clip from last year of
Fauci saying that if it's like any other virus, the
natural immunity would last a really long time. But also
we know, as we pointed out Friday, that the vaccine
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doesn't last very long. So trying to undercut the idea
of natural immunity by saying we know it doesn't last
very long for we don't know how long it last
is defeating the entire purpose, right, I mean, it's hard
to come up with any other idea than they think
it undercuts the idea of vaccination, because remember, we're at
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seventy six percent of adults have had at least one
shot now, and they keep saying the unvaccinated are the
other twenty four percent. I think there's probably a pretty
substantial portion of that twenty four percent that's already had COVID.
So what percentage of people, and this is the data
we should have that we don't have that they have
in England, for instance, what percentage of people now in
America Buck have some form of antibody immunity here, either
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from the vaccine or natural. It's got to be over
ninety percent. That's going to happen. I mean, just just
remember this as another Buck prediction for the future. What's
going to happen is eventually case it'll be very low.
There won't be the same level of outbreaks. It's assuming
there's not you know, antibody dependent enhanced been a new variance,
and all kinds of crazy things. But I try to
be as optimistic as I can under the crazy circumstances
we have here. But at some point we will have
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so much natural and durable immunity in the population overall
from people just getting infected over the course of about
two years of this thing, and viruses historically often have
about a two year life cycle of spread the same
strain of virus throughout throughout a community. Then they'll say,
see all of our mitigation, all of our shots, all
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of our masking, it finally worked once and then and
then that point some people say, hold on a second,
it finally worked. I mean, if two hundred and fifty
million people out of three hundred and thirty got infected
with COVID, is that really intervention and mitigation working, because
that seems like interesting with it. So that's what I
think is going to happen. And also, Clay, nothing is perfect.
I mean, if you do a little bit of deep
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diving on this, you find out really quickly, not only
can chicken pox come back, and it often does when
people are older with week in immune systems as shingles,
you can actually get the chicken pox again. It can happen.
It's very very rare. But does anyone surround who's had
chicken pox worried about being the one in a million
that gets a second case of chicken pox. No, not
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only that Buck as was pointed out to us, the
CDC actually specifically recommends that you don't need to get
a chicken pox vaccine if you had chicken pox before, right,
Meaning there's a huge percentage of our listenership out there
who are either older than us or I don't know
when did the chicken pox vaccine start to really get
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widely distributed. You're probably twenty five years old, you might
have gotten the chicken pox vaccine, but I bet if
you're thirty or thirty five, you probably didn't. I know,
we didn't have it when I was I'm forty two,
and you didn't have it when you were a kid.
So the vast majority I would imagine of our listenership
had chicken pox at some point in their life never
never got the vaccine. So why does the CDC recommend
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if you had COVID you need to get a vaccine,
but the exact opposite for chicken pox doesn't make any sense.
We got a lot of calls, a lot of lines
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call in, now is the time. Kate in Houston, Texas,
got some chicken pox thoughts. Oh yeah, I got a
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lot to say. I'm just sorry. I just took my
vitamin D medication, But I just wanted to tell you
that you are right on. Our kids do not need
this because they have a natural immunity system and they
have more cells than us, at least thirty times more
than us because none of those chicken pox parties in
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the seventies. I know, I do. Yeah, I was exposed
twice when I was five years old, and guess what,
I had to sit for a patient here at the
hospital wish shingles. But guess what, my hairs didn't know that,
so she sent me to employee health and it turns
out that I actually have an immunity to chicken pox.
Because of that long story short, our kids don't need it.
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Vaccines in the nineties actually helped with that chicken pox
because it's took twelve years to develop. But that's what's
important with it. So all right, thank you for the
cool I just think again, the point is, if you
look at the data, and I would encourage you to
look at the Phil Kirpin data that we were talking
about earlier in the show. And that we shared with
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mortality rates for COVID based on age by year. Right,
so you can look at how many two year olds
have died, how many four year olds, how many eighty
four year olds. You can look at all of that,
and if you do, I don't understand how any parent
could look at that data your kids. I want to
keep hammering this home because people don't realize that your
kids are more likely to die driving two or from school,
(25:45):
your kids are more likely to be murdered, your kids
are more likely to die of the seasonal flu than
they are from COVID. And then there's been mandate the
flu shot for kids. There's been a reckless and dishonest
campaign of hypervent to lating disinformation from people that it
has really become a kind of religion. It really has
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turned into an issue of faith for people, fauciism, lockdown riism,
whatever you want to call it. And there's such an
identification now, a political and tribal identification with the people
who just do all the things that the apparatus tells
them to do and they don't want to believe in clay.
This is I think one of the big problems. They
(26:27):
don't ever want to wake up, and I have to
say to themselves, Wow, you mean all those times I
was jogging with two masks on outside, I was actually
being an idiot who doesn't know how to think for
himself or herself. Nobody ever wants to believe that, even
if it means that they get freedom from mask going forward.
You know, people everyone thinks they're smart, everyone thinks that
they can think through problems, and it's embarrassing, right there
(26:52):
a lot of people who should be And I think
masking up your kid voluntarily for people that are on
the plane and stuff, I know they use force to
make you. That's different. Voluntarily masking up your children should
embarrass parents of good sense. They should feel embarrassed. And
there's lots of people out there who've basically given up
two years of their life. I mean, what's two years
of your life worth if you lived it completely based
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on the data. And also I think is going to
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We've been talking about the hypocrisy of the Democratic Party
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as it pertains to the border where you can cross
without being tested for COVID at all, despite the fact
that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people have
done so over the last year. Whereas if you're vacationing
in Mexico, you have to get a test to come back.
If you're coming in from Europe, you have to get
a test or be a COVID vaccinated in order to
(30:28):
come into this country now under new policies. Well, Jinsaki
was asked about that by Fox News. Is Peter Doocey
and this is what it sounded like. Somebody into the
country right across the river, does somebody ask them to
see their vaccination party. Well, let me explain to you again,
Peter Howard. Process works. As individuals come across the border,
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they are both assessed for whether they have any symptoms.
If they have symptoms, they are the intention is for
them to be quarantined. That is our process. They're not
intending to stay here for a lengthy period of time.
I don't think it's the same thing. It's not the
same thing. These are individuals. As we've Newton, and as
we've been discussed, we are expelling individuals based on Title
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forty two, specifically because of COVID, because we want to
prevent a scenario where large numbers of people are gathering
posing a threat to the community and also to the
migrants themselves. I mean, she's just it's like delusional at
some point. First of all, most of the family units
and there's still a lot of family unit showing up,
are let into the US clay, so start with that,
more than half of them. The numbers that I've seen
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for people studying this are about sixty to seventy percent
of the family units on any given day. Are just
being told, go ahead and trust us when we tell you,
folks that they're planning on staying in the US a
very long time. Yes, And look, this is an indefensible
position to have to defend, and I'm sure Jansaki knows that.
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And this is just one of the litany of disasters
that is facing Joe Biden right now, but it's one
that is wildly and clearly and blatantly hypocritical. And I
and when we talk about why these sort of situations matter,
why does it matter that the Emmys occur and none
of the stars are wearing masks? I don't. I think
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they should be able to have the Emmys, by the way,
and not be able to I want no one wearing
Maybe healthcare, maybe healthcare settings with people at high risk.
That's it. Why does it matter if London breed the
mayor of San Francisco is flagrantly violating her own restrictions.
Why does it matter that the Biden administration has one
policy in place for COVID when it comes to crossing
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the border if you're an American citizen who went to
a resort in Mexico and another if you're walking across
the river the Rio Grand to enter into the Say,
you know how they're you know how they're going after
people for fake vaccine passports, and you know they're trying,
they're trying to make examples of people. You know, one
of the most common crimes that illegal immigrants commit on
a regular basis and are almost never prosecuted for document fraud, oaks,
(33:00):
social security card fraud, all kinds of signal. I mean,
you know, they sign things under other names. They commit
fraud on a regular base. People say, oh, but they
have to work. Look, I'm just trying. Do we have
a set of rules or not. Don't tell me that
a CD you know a friend of mine, I may
or may not know some people with some fake cards.
I may or may not. I can neither confirm nor
deny that I know people with fake cards. Clay, but
(33:22):
that's so terrible. Mar it's also serious. But forging documents,
if you're illegal in this country, that's that's totally fine. No,
I'm sorry, the laws of the law, it's not. Yeah,
and it ties in buck with Ultimately, this ends when
people say it has to end. And I talked about
this over the weekend. You you're up in New York City,
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where you have to have a vaccine passport in theory
to go to a restaurant, to go to a gym,
to go to a movie, to go to a sporting event,
any kind of major life event. Basically less than four
hours away. Buck in Happy Valley Pennsylvania. Over a nearly
one hundred and ten thousand people showed up for the
penn State game against Auburn, all sitting without masks, all
(34:07):
in white. They did a white out, which was really cool.
But I couldn't stopped thinking about what different worlds were
living in right now. Where some people are have reached
the point where they say, hey, we're gonna live our
normal life, and there are so many other people out
there that are still terrified to live their normal life.
And it's often only a few miles that separates the
(34:30):
distance between the two. Dave in Ohio, what's going on, Dave?
I just wanted to say the thing that Fouci was
mentioning about how you're super vaccinated if you had your
antibodies or the COVID, and then also the shot not
necessarily true. My wife, she works in a lab. They
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just got the new machine in that they could test
antibodies in the hospital and Akron and they were testing
our lab of the families and stuff like that. Before
they go live with the machine, she had to get
the vaccine and we both had the COVID back in January.
She got the vaccine. Now she does not have any
natural antibodies, I still do she does not. All she
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has is the vaccine antibodies. I mean it's interesting. It's
certainly one case would be I mean one instance, I
should say Dave is anecdotal, but certainly, you know, interesting
to see where is the data clay on what the
vaccine does in addition to natural immunity. I mean, why
isn't it more readily available? Yeah, I think that's fantastic
data that we should have for sure. And also it's
(35:36):
worth mentioning some people have antibodies and they may not
show up, especially if you had a natural infection. Based
on talking to some doctors, those things can show up
when you're actually exposed to the virus, right Like, you
don't necessarily have to have an exact antibody in your
blood at a particular point in time. Your body has
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been trained to respond and so can produce faster based
on people I've talked to, So, uh, you know this,
this idea of antibody waning, we know occurs one hundred
percent with the vaccine. That's why they're talking about boosters.
That's what's happened in Israel, That's what's happened in England.
We one hundred percent know that we don't have good
enough data about natural immunity to sell immunity, which would
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be which which has a longer memory generally in immunity
or amunology anyway, Wait, we're not gonna be able to
solve that one. At the very end of the show today,
we thank you pretty and we can solve the world. Please,
And that's what we do. We kind of solve the
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(37:01):
to go. And Clay tomorrow you're gonna be teaing a
soft buddy. Better get some sleep tonight. It's gonna be
a big one. That's some plan late night Monday night
football hopefully it doesn't go on so long. Oh, Monday
night football. Maybe maybe I will watch the football and
anticipation of the other thoughts of people in Wisconsin gonna
be hanging out. No masks should be fun. You're listening
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