October 6, 2021 • 37 mins
BLM, Defund the Police movement led to highest murder rate in modern history. Dems refusing to prosecute crimes all over the country. The crime wave in NYC in the late '80s, early '90s. Updates on shooting in Arlington, Texas. Fauci gives his blessing to Christmas gatherings. Biden promised to end covid, has not done so. The covid shot science you're not allowed to talk about.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show's got a lot to get to
with you today. Thank you for being here. Always an
honor and a privilege to have time with you all
across the country. Clay and I have a lot to
discuss with you. We do have a breaking news item here.
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Active shooter in Arlington, Texas, just outside of Dallas. Police
are on the scene. People have been taken to the hospital.
We do not have a lot of specifics on this
right now. There's video footage from the news networks rolling
on the outside of a high school. We don't have
any real data updates for you on what exactly is
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going on there quite yet. We just know active shooter
in Arlington, Texas and there are police and all kinds
of ms on the scene. People have been taken the hospital,
so we know there are some casualties. As we have
updates on that, we will bring them to you. And
certainly we are all praying to We're all praying for
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a swift end to the situation and the absolute minimum
of loss of life given we don't know all we
know is people have been hit. We don't know what
exactly has happened there. We also have other news stories
to get to CDC talking about the biggest murder increase
in one hundred years in this country starting in twenty twenty. Meanwhile,
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we've got the FBI focused on what I think they're
going to start calling insurrectionist soccer moms. You have a
Washington State woman dying from the J and J vaccine confirmed.
She died because of a side effect, a rare blood
clot condition from Jay and Jay, a young, otherwise healthy
woman mother. You've got hospitals denying transplants to the unvaccinated
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now in Colorado that's actually happening as well. And you've
also got a supply chain issue that's playing out in
China that's going to snarl the economies of the whole
world in the months ahead unless something really dramatic is
done to deal with this. But let's start with this,
and actually we can go. We can turn to our
friends at OutKick dot com for the CDC data. Here
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there's a chief of Mortality Statistics branch that pulled this
together and this is what they told us. There were
twenty one thousand, seven hundred and fifty murders in twenty twenty,
as opposed to six thousand, fourteen I'm sorry, sixteen thousand,
four hundred and twenty five in twenty nineteen. This is
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from the FBI Uniform Crime Report. CDC also looking at
the data, they find clay the highest ever in US
history since we really were keeping numbers since about nineteen
o four nineteen oh five period. And the only reason
you can point two it's want to I want to
say this. It is not only BLM as a movement
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that undermined police. It is the progressive left and the
decision that they made to unlearn so much of what
the country went through in the seventies, the eighties, the nineties,
to deal effectively with the crime problem and bring violent
crime specifically and bring it down nationally and almost magically
in New York City. That's what we see. People need
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to be held accountable for this. I agree. I think
there's plenty of blame to go around here. Activists, politicians, athletes, celebrities.
All of these people told you in the wake of
the George Floyd incident that police were evil, and I
keep hammering this home. They pulled cops off of television.
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But there were some people saying that the paw patrol
for people out there who have kids, the paw patrol
police officer inspired puppy was offensive. They created a situation
which we knew was going to be the result, because
we already saw what happened in Ferguson in twenty sixteen
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where police were demonized, where if you said anything positive
about the police, you were shouted down. And as a result,
there are over five thousand people who are likely dead
today that would not have been dead otherwise. And most
of those people are young minority men. Right, that's the
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overwhelming number of the people who are killed as a
result of police not being able to do their jobs.
So the ironic an unfortunate aspect here is Black Lives
Matter and the protests that they unleashed all over this country.
And you can look at the data, the cities that
they were the most active in in terms of protesting
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had the largest increases in murder. So I do think
it's connected to BLM Black Lives Matter to the largest
single increase in murders of mostly black men in the
history of our country. And the thing is buck almost
no one in media is going to cover this or
talk about it in a significant way. Our listeners are
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hearing about it. I bet you don't see it hardly
talked about on CNN, on MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post.
And if they do cover this in any kind of waid,
you know what, they'll blame it on the pandemic. Of course,
they'll say COVID cause this, even even though if you
look at the data, the period of the pandemic started
in what March February March of twenty twenty. The spike
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in violence really got going in June of that year,
as the protest began as the proach, So we know
the protests played a huge role in it, but the
protests were really a symptom of a larger narrative. BLM
is in essence, what that narrative is when it's taken
to the streets and there's riots. Were mostly peaceful protests,
which means a protest with a riot attached to it.
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That's what a mostly peaceful protest is by that definition.
As we've said, the January sixth was a mostly peaceful
protest comma that had a riot attached to it as well.
They obviously hate that formulation and never stop and think
we'll hold on a second. Maybe that's not the way
you should be reporting on night after night of destruction
in a memo cities across the country either and Clay,
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it's beyond though, just the people that took to the
streets and the effect that that had, the so called
fergus in effect, which Heather McDonald, the researcher of the
Manhattan's Institute, coined as a phrase where you have police
who won't do their jobs as much. The whole Democrat
progressive system has embraced the lie that the primary challenge
of violence in America is racist cops against young black men.
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That is the foundational lie of BLM. It is a
foundational lie that the Democrat Party embraces irrespective of the numbers,
because people find out, they say, wait, what was it? It
It was twelve in the most recent year, or fifteen
or unarmed armed, unarmed black men who were killed by enforcement.
And as we know, unarmed doesn't mean they aren't actually
a threat in that incidant. It depends on the specifics.
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Was the person tackling a cop to the ground, punching
him in the face, reaching for his gun. But Clay,
there's this story you see this one out of Chicago
that I feel like this encapsulates the Woyer reality of crime. Here.
There was a gunfight in the Austin neighborhood of Chicago
just a few what was this just a few days ago?
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And you had over seventy shell casings found. Two people
were shot, multiple assailants, multiple people broad daylight just they
said it was like a Wild West shootout. That wast
shells is a lot of That's a lot of by
the way, that's what they found. I mean, so it's
probably over a hundred rounds exchange, multiple shooters, the shooters
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who were inside a house. Looks like a drive by
at a house. People came out of the house they
were shooting. Squat arrived. Police were there for part of
the shootout. Some of this was captured on video. People
were hit, how many people were arrested, didn't charge Does
anyone to guess from this obvious gang incident with multiple
people hit and shot and broad daylight and endangering everybody
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in the neighborhood? Zero, folks, zero, Welcome to Democrat policing
in Chicago in America today, and this ties in Buck
We were talking about how the Democrats are gonna blame
COVID for why this murder rate has gone up because
they don't want to acknowledge that their defund the police
rhetoric they have blood on their hands, which is one
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hundred percent the case. And honestly, if Republicans, I believe,
were being intelligent here, they would run even in twenty
twenty two on the chaos of defund the police and
what Democrats have caused. But buck your point on tying
this into Chicago. We talked about this. I believe it
was last week more kids have been shot in Chicago
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then have died with COVID in twenty twenty one in
the whole year. That is a stagger. I mean, there
are a lot of people out there listening to us
right now start the show, and they just heard that
stat and they're like, that can't possibly be true. Over
three hundred kids have been shot in Chicago. That's more
than the number of kids that have died with COVID
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in the entire country. That is an eye opening, unbelievable
are you kidding me? Stat? And it reflects again a
fundamental inability to assess danger, but also a complete and
total failure inside of the City of Chicago to protect
the most vulnerable people. Just so everyone knows, because I
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wanted to close the loop on this story and a
hot tip of the Chicago Sun Times for the reporting
on it all the shooting in Chicago over the weekend. Clay,
I just saw this part at the bottom. I thought everybody,
I'd forgotten to mention this. The District Attorney's office that's
looking at this issue, and that brought no charges. People
shot shooting guns. I wonder how many of these handguns
do we think are legally registered in the city of Chicago.
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Let's just start there for a second. Not that I
you should have the rest of your head, but that
is the law. How about, okay, and gang bangers are
usually the people you want to use illegal firearm laws against,
which is what we're talking about here, people who are
in gangs. And it was Kim Fox, she of Jesse
Smollett should not be charged fame And do you know
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what the explanation was for why no one yet in
this large scale shootout in broad daylight? You know what?
You know what the justification was? Clay, I don't know,
but I'm thinking that maybe the answer is going to
be they're not sure whether somebody was self defense, like
whether a mutual combat. What can you do? You don't know,
we don't know who started it, so we can't charge anybody.
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This is what they're saying. I mean, I'm not I'm
not stunned because of the stupidity that we already know
that prosecutor has. But that's I read the article and
I didn't read the analysis. But legally I was saying,
I bet that they're trying to figure out some people
are claiming self defense. I'm sure both sides are claiming
self defense, and they can't figure out who fired first.
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So gang members in broad daylight, yes, can have a
straight artentially with illegal gun with I'm sure. I mean
I didn't even read that. I'm sure the guns were illegal. Okay,
Chicago is basically a gun free zone. It's about as strict.
It's highly unlikely that these worlds. I don't thank they
just finished their concealed carry courts. Maybe yes, maybe, but
there these are known gang members, So I'm just gonna
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say that there's unlikely that they probably go through the
whole Yeah, yeah, no charges though they're not even going
to bring charges against these individuals. My friends, we all
see what's going on here. You have prosecutors in many
cases who are George Soros organization backed in Philadelphia, with
Krasner Boudin in San Francisco, now Kim Fox in Chicago
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stepping in on this list here, who decide that criminals
should be treated gently. Yes, because society is really responsible
the individuals that are doing this stuff. We have a
carceral system, Clay, There's a need to address social justice here.
So what if bullets are flying through a neighborhood. We
need to get to root causes. People aren't paying their
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fair share. And have you heard about what the climate
is doing recently? We have much bigger issues to handle.
That's what the Democrats actually think about this stuff. Well,
and being concerned with all of those things is a
luxury that a low crime rate provides, right being this
is just so cyclical, it's crazy. We need to talk
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about this when we come back into the next segment
because it's so cyclical, right, you saw it. Eventually people
get fed up with the level of crime and they're
not concerned about all of the larger societal and justice
issues because they're like, I just want my kids to
be able to go walk down the street and be safe,
and all of these things are I think we're seeing
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a spin back in the big direction of hey, maybe
we need to have as good guys. It's totally true.
I saw. I lived through this as a junior high
kid in New York City. We had over twenty two
hundred murders when I was in junior high in New
York City, and now this has an incredibly dangerous place.
There was a lot of bad stuff going on here.
So we can talk more about what but that mentality
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did change in the city and that's what brought about
the Rugiuliani crime miracle. We'll come back into this. Plus,
we are watching very closely the active shooter situation in Texas.
It is still ongoing. They've set up a place where
parents are gathering for information on the scene. You have
law enforcement addressing the media right now. We've got our
team listening in to find out as much as we
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can about this active shooter situation in Arlington, Texas. We
will bring you information on that when we come back.
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welcome back in play Travis buck Sex and show. We
are tracking the story in Arlington shooter in a school
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in Arlington. Will give you updates as that continues to
be and certainly as the data continues to come in.
We don't want to get anything wrong about the story
like this, and if you are in that area listening
to us, certainly we are wishing you and your family
the best. Fuck. I wanted to just kind of tee
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you up because we were talking about the murder rate
skyrocketing the most and over one hundred years according to
the CDC, and you I was saying that this is
a luxury of sorts, in other words, being concerned about
whether police are following proper protocols, being concerned that you're
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being too much of a hindrance to the criminal element,
ie they're having to go to jail too long, there's
being too hard on crime. The argument that you're being
too hard on crime is a jury of a low
crime rate and lots of people out there who remember
when we had high crime. And you are a good
example because New York City had a crime miracle, because
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it used to be wildly unsafe in many parts of
New York City and then it basically turned They turned
time square in other places into like Disneyland. One thing that,
as someone who spent time in a number I lived,
DC is a pretty unsafe city overall, but there are
generally safe, much safer parts of it. The crime is
in certain areas. Same things true here in New York City.
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Even today, a vast majority of the homicides occur, I
mean I know them really more by precinct than anything else,
but in a handful of precincts in the Bronx and Brooklyn,
and then the rest of New York City, Manhattan and
the rest of it is very low crime overall. But
what happened Clay is that it can reach a point
into city where every neighborhood actually feels unsafe, where the crime,
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even if murders are concentrated in some areas, it spills
over and then everyone realizes. And that's when you start
to have a real change in perception about what needs
to be done. And that's what happened in New York
in the nineties, when I mean there was just it
wasn't just the shootings. I remember going, you know, walking
with friends of mine's parents and of course their car
had had the windows smashed and the radio stolen, or
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coming home and seeing a vagrant relieving himself on the
front door where I lived. I mean, those things would happen,
and that was just life in the big city. Cracking
down on illegal behavior results in less illegal behavior. It's
amazing how that works. I remember as a kid growing
up in Nashville, there were some neighborhoods or you didn't
lock the doors of your car because the car windows
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would get broken, and you were like, I'd rather just
not leave anything in the car and let somebody go
through it. Let me say this, buck, we're talking about
that Arlington shooting update. The Arlington Police Department has said
they are looking for a shooting suspect at timber View School.
Police call nine one one if you know the whereabouts
of eighteen year old Timothy George Simpkins maybe dry twenty
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young black mail. According to this photo, that is who
they are looking for in regards to the shooting. In
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So Fauci is like, I don't even know what you're
talking about. It's amazing you can go totally totally normal.
(19:54):
And by normal Christmas, I mean make sure you check
the vaccination status of household members and your family gathers
together only in a tight No cousins, certainly when you
look at the case load. No second cousins, uncle and
Aunt Mardy coming over for holiday dinner, because otherwise they'll
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be lonely. No. In fact, you must play allow only
the immediate family unit step children. I don't know we
are they vaccinated? Show me the vaccine card. This is
what America has devolved into. We have to listen to
this clown walk back. But as he's walking back, he
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still can't help but be annoying and not fully walk
it back. I take it as a positive sign Buck
that somebody in the White House. I'm picturing them like
running down the hallway screaming when they saw that interview
on CBS, because Biden, we were looking. You shared some
polling data this morning of the issue es that Biden
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and the Democratic Party are facing right now, and one
of the biggest issues is Biden's now underwater on COVID.
And for people out there not familiar maybe with use
of the term underwater, it means in a lot of
these polls, more people now say Joe Biden is doing
a poor job on COVID, then support him on COVID.
And I think that's because even though the media is
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not covering it in the same way. I saw this
stat come out and it even kind of stunned me
Buck and I shared it with you during one of
the breaks. Joe Biden ran his entire campaign from his
basement on the fact that he would solve COVID, right,
that was his thing. Trump is blowing it. Trump doesn't
know what he's doing. I'm gonna listen to the science,
and Joe Biden said, I will end COVID. This is crazy.
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I was actually surprised by this. More Americans have died
from COVID in twenty twenty one, then died in twenty
twenty So all those people who said, oh, Trump is
a disaster with COVID, He's been the worst leader of
all time, and they really basically the entire presidential campaign
ran on the idea that Trump was trying to kill
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your grandma, that that Biden would solve it. That's kind
of a staggering statistic to me. Is it staggering to
you as well? That more people in twenty twenty one
so far, and we're obviously not finished with the year
yet have died from COVID in twenty twenty one than
in twenty twenty Well, I think yes, And well it
goes though to what we know. I mean, if you
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look at the Spanish influenza pandemic of nineteen eighteen, there
was an initial wave that was pretty bad, but not
that bad. There was a second wave that was just devastating,
the horror movie devastating, killing people in a matter of hours.
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I mean, there was a second wave that was all ages,
the stuff of well, particularly actually the young and healthy. Yes,
for whatever reason, terrifying. There were a lot. There was
a very high mortality rate among people aged twenty to forty.
And then the third wave was I believe, also bad,
but but a substantial drop down from what it had
been before. You know, we are going to be able
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to do a kind of macro level analysis eventually, Eventually,
I think when the politics are a little they'll never
be fully removed for it. As we know, history is
still very political to this day in all in all respects.
But there will be a time I think we look
back and that phrase virus is going to virus yes,
becomes much more resonates, much more in people's minds. We
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did all this stuff, you'd have to ask yourself, how
is it possible that with a mass vaccination campaign, because
we you know, I guess they would say, oh, we
had a whole winter cycle. Okay, but about half of
that winter cycle occurred when Trump was still president. In fact,
a little more than half of that winter cycle occurred
when Trump was still president. And now you're looking at
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this year and you're saying more people died from COVID.
I guess, Clay, they will just blame this on the
delta variant being so much more easily transmissible. But at
the end of the day, they also had a vaccine.
They also had a huge amount of additional knowledge about
I mean, we had a million ventilators that we needed
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back in March that we didn't actually need back in
March or twenty twenty, right, So when you look at
all the factors, how could anyone say that Joe Biden
has done a good job managing the pandemic as the
commander in chief and chief executive the United States government?
How can anyone really believe that it's impossible to make
that argument? And by the way, we're in early October.
So for people out there who say, well, Trump was
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president until January twentieth, or whatever the day was, I
think it was January twenty, then he's responsible. However you
want to say, right, some people will say, well, you
got to take twenty of those days out of the
equation because Biden wasn't president, And then they'll argue Trump
did such a poor job that Biden had to clean
up his mess. But actually, if you look at the data,
the numbers were declining pretty substantially for COVID by the
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time of the inauguration, and then went to almost nothing
right for several months, before surging again even in the
wake of the vaccinations, because I think one of the
places where Biden is the weakest, and there god knows
a lot of places where he's weak. But in early
May he was saying nobody needs to wear masks anymore.
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This thing's over if you get vaccinated. And then he
had to walk back all of that, and I just
think it's an intriguing data point and to your analysis
of how history is very political. This will actually, I
think help in some ways because you'll say, hey, you
had a Republican president, you had a democratic president, and
what happened. The virus was going to virus. Almost everything
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we did to try to combat it was totally worthless.
In the end. That's what they want to avoid at
all costs because they'll be political and power implications that
come from this. And I wanted to also follow up
and we could spend a little more time on this, Clay,
we'd come back. There's a couple of things that were
on my radar this morning as I was doing the
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research that we do every day for this show, which
is late at night. You know, I hope that I
don't wake Clay up when it's like one o'clock in
the morning and you know, sending him random text and
producer Ali. But this morning I was looking through and
sure enough, that story that was suppressed by Twitter about
a woman, a young woman in Washington State who died
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as a as a direct result of I mean, this
is what the actual state health authority is now admitting.
She got the J and J shot, did not want
to get the J and J shot. Died of a
of a blood clotting condition which we had heard about
for a while. That was a possibility, and initially social
media's first reaction is to say, you can't say that.
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Can you imagine in a different context, if there was
a new wonder drug on the market, clay and It
and it you know, I don't know it cure diabetes
something that would be amazing. But someone took that drug
and died a day later as a direct consequence of
the drug. Do you think that anybody would be looked
down upon for telling that story. They'd be suppressed for
sharing that information. There's something very wrong in this country
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back in play. Travis Buck Sexton, appreciate all of you
hanging out with us as we roll through the Wednesday
edition of the program and Buck. One of the challenges
of this whole COVID mess in general has been exacerbated
(28:59):
by Big Text decision to be so wrong in labeling
so much as misinformation and making it even more confusing
for people out there when it comes to actually understanding
what the data says, which is why I think certainly
for our audience, they've respected the fact that you and
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I have basically analyzed the data from the get go
and acknowledge that it's hard to predict where things are going,
but that the data should guide all of our public
policy responses, and some of that data occasionally will be
very negative towards the idea of vaccinating young and healthy people.
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In fact, the data doesn't support in any way that
children need to be vaccinated for COVID. And look, this
is my perspective. I don't believe if you have young
children that it makes sense to vaccinate them for COVID
based on the threat potential. Right now, let me explain
that I'm not an anti vaxer, because somebody will grab
(30:02):
that clip and they'll be like, oh, Glay Travis said
that he doesn't know the new definition of anti vaccini
Printermarian Webster Dictionary. Folks, Clay knows because I told them
about it before we talked about this. You are now
considered an anti vaxer under definite under dictionary definition. If
you oppose vaccine mandates. Isn't that cute? It's crazy? And
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so look, my kids got measles. Mom's rebella all of
the standard vaccines. I believe you should get your kids
vaccinated too. Okay for that, but COVID isn't a danger
to children, and so the idea that you would risk
in any way vaccinating them with a brand new vaccine,
which by the way, doesn't seem to be that protective
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in the grand scheme of things. I would rather most
kids in America get COVID because it doesn't impact them
and have the immunity naturally. Then I would to force
kids who were five and six years old or than
younger to get the vaccine. Well, buck young healthy people,
there are stories out there. They are a minority. They
(31:07):
are certainly outlier stories, but some young healthy people get
the vaccine and have massive issues with it, like this woman. Unfortunately,
out of the state of Washington, and you're not allowed
to talk about it for something most people. The part
of this that I think people are starting to see
and realize is really chilling is that we should have
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they talk about the science and the data, and then
they'll suppress science and data when it goes against the
narrative of the elites and the Democrat apparatus of control.
And now we've even seen something another i would say,
COVID dystopian measure unveiled that many of us had said
it was just a matter of time. Remember when we
were talking about how there are people that are saying
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they're going to deny medical care based on vaccination, deny
essential life saving medical care based on vaccination status. There's
now a Colorado based hospital system that and there's been
reporting on this, it's been confirmed. They are saying that
if you are on the organ transplant donor list and
you are unvaccinated, you're going into essentially the inactive status.
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You're not getting an organ sorry. And the way they're
justifying this is by saying, if you were to get
that organ and you were to get COVID, you are
less likely to survive. So they're treating it like a
medical triage issue when first of all, as we know,
organ donation comes with a lot of risks to begin with,
and on top of that, you can actually still get
COVID even if you get the vaccine, which we now
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know because the fiser Fiser's own data. These study shows
that after six months your protective level is fifty percent
from infection. Yes, that's the actual data. Now, folks just
see what they don't want to yell it from the
rooftops six months or fifty fifty that you're going to
get COVID or not get it if you're exposed to it.
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It's the flu shot. And we don't ever call the
flu shot a vaccine. We say that it is a
helpful measure that elderly people should get. And people who
are called the flu shot, you don't really say the
flu vaccine. We say the flu shot because to me,
a vaccine has to be way more protective than that.
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We say, hey, it's a measles mump's rebella vaccine. And
this is what I keep hammering Homebuck, is you never
worry like I've never in my entire life worried that
I was going to get measles because I got the vaccine.
But everybody who got the COVID vaccine, in the back
of their head, they know that it's not that effective.
So they're afraid. Their fear is that they're still going
(33:39):
to get COVID even though they've gotten a vaccine. And
now we're talking about a fifty percent efficacy rate after
six months. That's basically the flu shot, right, That's what
this is for covidio. And now they're going to say,
get a booster and find me one medical doctor or
a practitioner who can say with any confidence or is
willing to say, period at you will not have to
(34:02):
get more boosters after this booster for a year, keep
you protected. How could that be the case? And month
it goes away. I mean, do we think maybe people
believe we're going to cure covid so to speak. They
think that that's just over the horizon. So if we
can just get to that point. As it turns out,
that was actually what Australia and New Zealand were effectively.
(34:23):
They did the lockdown until vaccine planned. That was their plan, yea,
And now they've realized, well, it doesn't really work like that.
We've never cured the common cold, We've never cured the flu,
meaning eradicated these respiratory viruses from circulation around the world.
Why would we think it is imminent that we will
cure COVID. And if it's not imminent that will cure it,
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we are just in a cycle of shots boosters. So
it does start to feel a lot more like the flu.
And I think you'll see people by the way that
continue to say that you're right, we should mask up
for flu season two, just so they can appear consistent now,
even though at the beginning we said, well that it's crazy, right, Well,
and that's what I think is going to become more
(35:04):
and more challenging. Is and this is some of the
conversations we've had and will continue to have for them
months and probably years ahead. Unfortunately, how do we land
the plane? How do we get to a totally normal
American situation in a post COVID world where COVID's never
going away? And I think to your point, Buck, a
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lot of people are going to be so unwilling to
acknowledge that everything that they did, that all the lectures
that the mask wearing, that the social distancing, the parading
people who weren't vaccinated. All of that was effectively for naught.
They weren't getting a benefit from it. There's gonna be
a lot of people who insist, I think going forward, oh,
(35:47):
we have to wear masks forever on airplanes. I think.
I think every airline attendant who has humiliated and harassed
somebody for not masking up quickly enough between bites, they
should for a long time to come feel that that
twinge of remorse that can only come from those moments
in one's life when you realize how stupid and out
(36:08):
of control you were. So that's what I'm hoping we
get to where people will be deeply embarrassed by the
nonsense they put us through with. How do you think
flight ends are gonna be like, I'm sorry, I apologize.
They're gonna say they had to, but I trust me
as somebody who's been through that more than once. Yeah,
they could have been a little bit more cool about it.
Flight an, I gotta I gotta bone to pick with
(36:28):
the flight attendants. I'm not gonna lie and Claire, I
think you've got some things to say about miss joy
Behart coming up. I do Joy Behart and also news
out of Afghanistan, about the suicide bomber breaking and how
he ended up in the position to kill thirteen American soldiers.
We will talk about the national security deep dive we
come back. That sounds good to me. Yeah, you're listening
(36:53):
to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton fund the EIB Network.
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show's got a lot to get to
with you today. Thank you for being here. Always an
honor and a privilege to have time with you all
across the country. Clay and I have a lot to
discuss with you. We do have a breaking news item here.
(00:24):
Active shooter in Arlington, Texas, just outside of Dallas. Police
are on the scene. People have been taken to the hospital.
We do not have a lot of specifics on this
right now. There's video footage from the news networks rolling
on the outside of a high school. We don't have
any real data updates for you on what exactly is
(00:47):
going on there quite yet. We just know active shooter
in Arlington, Texas and there are police and all kinds
of ms on the scene. People have been taken the hospital,
so we know there are some casualties. As we have
updates on that, we will bring them to you. And
certainly we are all praying to We're all praying for
(01:09):
a swift end to the situation and the absolute minimum
of loss of life given we don't know all we
know is people have been hit. We don't know what
exactly has happened there. We also have other news stories
to get to CDC talking about the biggest murder increase
in one hundred years in this country starting in twenty twenty. Meanwhile,
(01:32):
we've got the FBI focused on what I think they're
going to start calling insurrectionist soccer moms. You have a
Washington State woman dying from the J and J vaccine confirmed.
She died because of a side effect, a rare blood
clot condition from Jay and Jay, a young, otherwise healthy
woman mother. You've got hospitals denying transplants to the unvaccinated
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now in Colorado that's actually happening as well. And you've
also got a supply chain issue that's playing out in
China that's going to snarl the economies of the whole
world in the months ahead unless something really dramatic is
done to deal with this. But let's start with this,
and actually we can go. We can turn to our
friends at OutKick dot com for the CDC data. Here
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there's a chief of Mortality Statistics branch that pulled this
together and this is what they told us. There were
twenty one thousand, seven hundred and fifty murders in twenty twenty,
as opposed to six thousand, fourteen I'm sorry, sixteen thousand,
four hundred and twenty five in twenty nineteen. This is
(02:44):
from the FBI Uniform Crime Report. CDC also looking at
the data, they find clay the highest ever in US
history since we really were keeping numbers since about nineteen
o four nineteen oh five period. And the only reason
you can point two it's want to I want to
say this. It is not only BLM as a movement
(03:05):
that undermined police. It is the progressive left and the
decision that they made to unlearn so much of what
the country went through in the seventies, the eighties, the nineties,
to deal effectively with the crime problem and bring violent
crime specifically and bring it down nationally and almost magically
in New York City. That's what we see. People need
(03:26):
to be held accountable for this. I agree. I think
there's plenty of blame to go around here. Activists, politicians, athletes, celebrities.
All of these people told you in the wake of
the George Floyd incident that police were evil, and I
keep hammering this home. They pulled cops off of television.
(03:50):
But there were some people saying that the paw patrol
for people out there who have kids, the paw patrol
police officer inspired puppy was offensive. They created a situation
which we knew was going to be the result, because
we already saw what happened in Ferguson in twenty sixteen
(04:13):
where police were demonized, where if you said anything positive
about the police, you were shouted down. And as a result,
there are over five thousand people who are likely dead
today that would not have been dead otherwise. And most
of those people are young minority men. Right, that's the
(04:33):
overwhelming number of the people who are killed as a
result of police not being able to do their jobs.
So the ironic an unfortunate aspect here is Black Lives
Matter and the protests that they unleashed all over this country.
And you can look at the data, the cities that
they were the most active in in terms of protesting
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had the largest increases in murder. So I do think
it's connected to BLM Black Lives Matter to the largest
single increase in murders of mostly black men in the
history of our country. And the thing is buck almost
no one in media is going to cover this or
talk about it in a significant way. Our listeners are
(05:14):
hearing about it. I bet you don't see it hardly
talked about on CNN, on MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post.
And if they do cover this in any kind of waid,
you know what, they'll blame it on the pandemic. Of course,
they'll say COVID cause this, even even though if you
look at the data, the period of the pandemic started
in what March February March of twenty twenty. The spike
(05:35):
in violence really got going in June of that year,
as the protest began as the proach, So we know
the protests played a huge role in it, but the
protests were really a symptom of a larger narrative. BLM
is in essence, what that narrative is when it's taken
to the streets and there's riots. Were mostly peaceful protests,
which means a protest with a riot attached to it.
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That's what a mostly peaceful protest is by that definition.
As we've said, the January sixth was a mostly peaceful
protest comma that had a riot attached to it as well.
They obviously hate that formulation and never stop and think
we'll hold on a second. Maybe that's not the way
you should be reporting on night after night of destruction
in a memo cities across the country either and Clay,
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it's beyond though, just the people that took to the
streets and the effect that that had, the so called
fergus in effect, which Heather McDonald, the researcher of the
Manhattan's Institute, coined as a phrase where you have police
who won't do their jobs as much. The whole Democrat
progressive system has embraced the lie that the primary challenge
of violence in America is racist cops against young black men.
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That is the foundational lie of BLM. It is a
foundational lie that the Democrat Party embraces irrespective of the numbers,
because people find out, they say, wait, what was it? It
It was twelve in the most recent year, or fifteen
or unarmed armed, unarmed black men who were killed by enforcement.
And as we know, unarmed doesn't mean they aren't actually
a threat in that incidant. It depends on the specifics.
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Was the person tackling a cop to the ground, punching
him in the face, reaching for his gun. But Clay,
there's this story you see this one out of Chicago
that I feel like this encapsulates the Woyer reality of crime. Here.
There was a gunfight in the Austin neighborhood of Chicago
just a few what was this just a few days ago?
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And you had over seventy shell casings found. Two people
were shot, multiple assailants, multiple people broad daylight just they
said it was like a Wild West shootout. That wast
shells is a lot of That's a lot of by
the way, that's what they found. I mean, so it's
probably over a hundred rounds exchange, multiple shooters, the shooters
(07:45):
who were inside a house. Looks like a drive by
at a house. People came out of the house they
were shooting. Squat arrived. Police were there for part of
the shootout. Some of this was captured on video. People
were hit, how many people were arrested, didn't charge Does
anyone to guess from this obvious gang incident with multiple
people hit and shot and broad daylight and endangering everybody
(08:08):
in the neighborhood? Zero, folks, zero, Welcome to Democrat policing
in Chicago in America today, and this ties in Buck
We were talking about how the Democrats are gonna blame
COVID for why this murder rate has gone up because
they don't want to acknowledge that their defund the police
rhetoric they have blood on their hands, which is one
(08:29):
hundred percent the case. And honestly, if Republicans, I believe,
were being intelligent here, they would run even in twenty
twenty two on the chaos of defund the police and
what Democrats have caused. But buck your point on tying
this into Chicago. We talked about this. I believe it
was last week more kids have been shot in Chicago
(08:52):
then have died with COVID in twenty twenty one in
the whole year. That is a stagger. I mean, there
are a lot of people out there listening to us
right now start the show, and they just heard that
stat and they're like, that can't possibly be true. Over
three hundred kids have been shot in Chicago. That's more
than the number of kids that have died with COVID
(09:13):
in the entire country. That is an eye opening, unbelievable
are you kidding me? Stat? And it reflects again a
fundamental inability to assess danger, but also a complete and
total failure inside of the City of Chicago to protect
the most vulnerable people. Just so everyone knows, because I
(09:35):
wanted to close the loop on this story and a
hot tip of the Chicago Sun Times for the reporting
on it all the shooting in Chicago over the weekend. Clay,
I just saw this part at the bottom. I thought everybody,
I'd forgotten to mention this. The District Attorney's office that's
looking at this issue, and that brought no charges. People
shot shooting guns. I wonder how many of these handguns
do we think are legally registered in the city of Chicago.
(09:57):
Let's just start there for a second. Not that I
you should have the rest of your head, but that
is the law. How about, okay, and gang bangers are
usually the people you want to use illegal firearm laws against,
which is what we're talking about here, people who are
in gangs. And it was Kim Fox, she of Jesse
Smollett should not be charged fame And do you know
(10:20):
what the explanation was for why no one yet in
this large scale shootout in broad daylight? You know what?
You know what the justification was? Clay, I don't know,
but I'm thinking that maybe the answer is going to
be they're not sure whether somebody was self defense, like
whether a mutual combat. What can you do? You don't know,
we don't know who started it, so we can't charge anybody.
(10:40):
This is what they're saying. I mean, I'm not I'm
not stunned because of the stupidity that we already know
that prosecutor has. But that's I read the article and
I didn't read the analysis. But legally I was saying,
I bet that they're trying to figure out some people
are claiming self defense. I'm sure both sides are claiming
self defense, and they can't figure out who fired first.
(11:02):
So gang members in broad daylight, yes, can have a
straight artentially with illegal gun with I'm sure. I mean
I didn't even read that. I'm sure the guns were illegal. Okay,
Chicago is basically a gun free zone. It's about as strict.
It's highly unlikely that these worlds. I don't thank they
just finished their concealed carry courts. Maybe yes, maybe, but
there these are known gang members, So I'm just gonna
(11:24):
say that there's unlikely that they probably go through the
whole Yeah, yeah, no charges though they're not even going
to bring charges against these individuals. My friends, we all
see what's going on here. You have prosecutors in many
cases who are George Soros organization backed in Philadelphia, with
Krasner Boudin in San Francisco, now Kim Fox in Chicago
(11:48):
stepping in on this list here, who decide that criminals
should be treated gently. Yes, because society is really responsible
the individuals that are doing this stuff. We have a
carceral system, Clay, There's a need to address social justice here.
So what if bullets are flying through a neighborhood. We
need to get to root causes. People aren't paying their
(12:10):
fair share. And have you heard about what the climate
is doing recently? We have much bigger issues to handle.
That's what the Democrats actually think about this stuff. Well,
and being concerned with all of those things is a
luxury that a low crime rate provides, right being this
is just so cyclical, it's crazy. We need to talk
(12:32):
about this when we come back into the next segment
because it's so cyclical, right, you saw it. Eventually people
get fed up with the level of crime and they're
not concerned about all of the larger societal and justice
issues because they're like, I just want my kids to
be able to go walk down the street and be safe,
and all of these things are I think we're seeing
(12:56):
a spin back in the big direction of hey, maybe
we need to have as good guys. It's totally true.
I saw. I lived through this as a junior high
kid in New York City. We had over twenty two
hundred murders when I was in junior high in New
York City, and now this has an incredibly dangerous place.
There was a lot of bad stuff going on here.
So we can talk more about what but that mentality
(13:16):
did change in the city and that's what brought about
the Rugiuliani crime miracle. We'll come back into this. Plus,
we are watching very closely the active shooter situation in Texas.
It is still ongoing. They've set up a place where
parents are gathering for information on the scene. You have
law enforcement addressing the media right now. We've got our
team listening in to find out as much as we
(13:38):
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are tracking the story in Arlington shooter in a school
(15:06):
in Arlington. Will give you updates as that continues to
be and certainly as the data continues to come in.
We don't want to get anything wrong about the story
like this, and if you are in that area listening
to us, certainly we are wishing you and your family
the best. Fuck. I wanted to just kind of tee
(15:26):
you up because we were talking about the murder rate
skyrocketing the most and over one hundred years according to
the CDC, and you I was saying that this is
a luxury of sorts, in other words, being concerned about
whether police are following proper protocols, being concerned that you're
(15:47):
being too much of a hindrance to the criminal element,
ie they're having to go to jail too long, there's
being too hard on crime. The argument that you're being
too hard on crime is a jury of a low
crime rate and lots of people out there who remember
when we had high crime. And you are a good
example because New York City had a crime miracle, because
(16:11):
it used to be wildly unsafe in many parts of
New York City and then it basically turned They turned
time square in other places into like Disneyland. One thing that,
as someone who spent time in a number I lived,
DC is a pretty unsafe city overall, but there are
generally safe, much safer parts of it. The crime is
in certain areas. Same things true here in New York City.
(16:31):
Even today, a vast majority of the homicides occur, I
mean I know them really more by precinct than anything else,
but in a handful of precincts in the Bronx and Brooklyn,
and then the rest of New York City, Manhattan and
the rest of it is very low crime overall. But
what happened Clay is that it can reach a point
into city where every neighborhood actually feels unsafe, where the crime,
(16:54):
even if murders are concentrated in some areas, it spills
over and then everyone realizes. And that's when you start
to have a real change in perception about what needs
to be done. And that's what happened in New York
in the nineties, when I mean there was just it
wasn't just the shootings. I remember going, you know, walking
with friends of mine's parents and of course their car
had had the windows smashed and the radio stolen, or
(17:16):
coming home and seeing a vagrant relieving himself on the
front door where I lived. I mean, those things would happen,
and that was just life in the big city. Cracking
down on illegal behavior results in less illegal behavior. It's
amazing how that works. I remember as a kid growing
up in Nashville, there were some neighborhoods or you didn't
lock the doors of your car because the car windows
(17:38):
would get broken, and you were like, I'd rather just
not leave anything in the car and let somebody go
through it. Let me say this, buck, we're talking about
that Arlington shooting update. The Arlington Police Department has said
they are looking for a shooting suspect at timber View School.
Police call nine one one if you know the whereabouts
of eighteen year old Timothy George Simpkins maybe dry twenty
(18:00):
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young black mail. According to this photo, that is who
they are looking for in regards to the shooting. In
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you don't know what their status is. But for the
(19:29):
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you can do that one thing you can say, the
more people that get vaccinated, the more people that can
safely do that. Welcome back to the Clay and Buck show.
So Fauci is like, I don't even know what you're
talking about. It's amazing you can go totally totally normal.
(19:54):
And by normal Christmas, I mean make sure you check
the vaccination status of household members and your family gathers
together only in a tight No cousins, certainly when you
look at the case load. No second cousins, uncle and
Aunt Mardy coming over for holiday dinner, because otherwise they'll
(20:18):
be lonely. No. In fact, you must play allow only
the immediate family unit step children. I don't know we
are they vaccinated? Show me the vaccine card. This is
what America has devolved into. We have to listen to
this clown walk back. But as he's walking back, he
(20:39):
still can't help but be annoying and not fully walk
it back. I take it as a positive sign Buck
that somebody in the White House. I'm picturing them like
running down the hallway screaming when they saw that interview
on CBS, because Biden, we were looking. You shared some
polling data this morning of the issue es that Biden
(21:00):
and the Democratic Party are facing right now, and one
of the biggest issues is Biden's now underwater on COVID.
And for people out there not familiar maybe with use
of the term underwater, it means in a lot of
these polls, more people now say Joe Biden is doing
a poor job on COVID, then support him on COVID.
And I think that's because even though the media is
(21:22):
not covering it in the same way. I saw this
stat come out and it even kind of stunned me
Buck and I shared it with you during one of
the breaks. Joe Biden ran his entire campaign from his
basement on the fact that he would solve COVID, right,
that was his thing. Trump is blowing it. Trump doesn't
know what he's doing. I'm gonna listen to the science,
and Joe Biden said, I will end COVID. This is crazy.
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I was actually surprised by this. More Americans have died
from COVID in twenty twenty one, then died in twenty
twenty So all those people who said, oh, Trump is
a disaster with COVID, He's been the worst leader of
all time, and they really basically the entire presidential campaign
ran on the idea that Trump was trying to kill
(22:09):
your grandma, that that Biden would solve it. That's kind
of a staggering statistic to me. Is it staggering to
you as well? That more people in twenty twenty one
so far, and we're obviously not finished with the year
yet have died from COVID in twenty twenty one than
in twenty twenty Well, I think yes, And well it
goes though to what we know. I mean, if you
(22:31):
look at the Spanish influenza pandemic of nineteen eighteen, there
was an initial wave that was pretty bad, but not
that bad. There was a second wave that was just devastating,
the horror movie devastating, killing people in a matter of hours.
(22:51):
I mean, there was a second wave that was all ages,
the stuff of well, particularly actually the young and healthy. Yes,
for whatever reason, terrifying. There were a lot. There was
a very high mortality rate among people aged twenty to forty.
And then the third wave was I believe, also bad,
but but a substantial drop down from what it had
been before. You know, we are going to be able
(23:13):
to do a kind of macro level analysis eventually, Eventually,
I think when the politics are a little they'll never
be fully removed for it. As we know, history is
still very political to this day in all in all respects.
But there will be a time I think we look
back and that phrase virus is going to virus yes,
becomes much more resonates, much more in people's minds. We
(23:34):
did all this stuff, you'd have to ask yourself, how
is it possible that with a mass vaccination campaign, because
we you know, I guess they would say, oh, we
had a whole winter cycle. Okay, but about half of
that winter cycle occurred when Trump was still president. In fact,
a little more than half of that winter cycle occurred
when Trump was still president. And now you're looking at
(23:54):
this year and you're saying more people died from COVID.
I guess, Clay, they will just blame this on the
delta variant being so much more easily transmissible. But at
the end of the day, they also had a vaccine.
They also had a huge amount of additional knowledge about
I mean, we had a million ventilators that we needed
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back in March that we didn't actually need back in
March or twenty twenty, right, So when you look at
all the factors, how could anyone say that Joe Biden
has done a good job managing the pandemic as the
commander in chief and chief executive the United States government?
How can anyone really believe that it's impossible to make
that argument? And by the way, we're in early October.
So for people out there who say, well, Trump was
(24:38):
president until January twentieth, or whatever the day was, I
think it was January twenty, then he's responsible. However you
want to say, right, some people will say, well, you
got to take twenty of those days out of the
equation because Biden wasn't president, And then they'll argue Trump
did such a poor job that Biden had to clean
up his mess. But actually, if you look at the data,
the numbers were declining pretty substantially for COVID by the
(25:02):
time of the inauguration, and then went to almost nothing
right for several months, before surging again even in the
wake of the vaccinations, because I think one of the
places where Biden is the weakest, and there god knows
a lot of places where he's weak. But in early
May he was saying nobody needs to wear masks anymore.
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This thing's over if you get vaccinated. And then he
had to walk back all of that, and I just
think it's an intriguing data point and to your analysis
of how history is very political. This will actually, I
think help in some ways because you'll say, hey, you
had a Republican president, you had a democratic president, and
what happened. The virus was going to virus. Almost everything
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we did to try to combat it was totally worthless.
In the end. That's what they want to avoid at
all costs because they'll be political and power implications that
come from this. And I wanted to also follow up
and we could spend a little more time on this, Clay,
we'd come back. There's a couple of things that were
on my radar this morning as I was doing the
(26:03):
research that we do every day for this show, which
is late at night. You know, I hope that I
don't wake Clay up when it's like one o'clock in
the morning and you know, sending him random text and
producer Ali. But this morning I was looking through and
sure enough, that story that was suppressed by Twitter about
a woman, a young woman in Washington State who died
(26:24):
as a as a direct result of I mean, this
is what the actual state health authority is now admitting.
She got the J and J shot, did not want
to get the J and J shot. Died of a
of a blood clotting condition which we had heard about
for a while. That was a possibility, and initially social
media's first reaction is to say, you can't say that.
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Can you imagine in a different context, if there was
a new wonder drug on the market, clay and It
and it you know, I don't know it cure diabetes
something that would be amazing. But someone took that drug
and died a day later as a direct consequence of
the drug. Do you think that anybody would be looked
down upon for telling that story. They'd be suppressed for
sharing that information. There's something very wrong in this country
(27:10):
right now. No, it's rotten. Big tech is rotten. We
need to talk about that story, and we got a
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two five zero and say the words pure Talk, welcome
back in play. Travis Buck Sexton, appreciate all of you
hanging out with us as we roll through the Wednesday
edition of the program and Buck. One of the challenges
of this whole COVID mess in general has been exacerbated
(28:59):
by Big Text decision to be so wrong in labeling
so much as misinformation and making it even more confusing
for people out there when it comes to actually understanding
what the data says, which is why I think certainly
for our audience, they've respected the fact that you and
(29:20):
I have basically analyzed the data from the get go
and acknowledge that it's hard to predict where things are going,
but that the data should guide all of our public
policy responses, and some of that data occasionally will be
very negative towards the idea of vaccinating young and healthy people.
(29:41):
In fact, the data doesn't support in any way that
children need to be vaccinated for COVID. And look, this
is my perspective. I don't believe if you have young
children that it makes sense to vaccinate them for COVID
based on the threat potential. Right now, let me explain
that I'm not an anti vaxer, because somebody will grab
(30:02):
that clip and they'll be like, oh, Glay Travis said
that he doesn't know the new definition of anti vaccini
Printermarian Webster Dictionary. Folks, Clay knows because I told them
about it before we talked about this. You are now
considered an anti vaxer under definite under dictionary definition. If
you oppose vaccine mandates. Isn't that cute? It's crazy? And
(30:23):
so look, my kids got measles. Mom's rebella all of
the standard vaccines. I believe you should get your kids
vaccinated too. Okay for that, but COVID isn't a danger
to children, and so the idea that you would risk
in any way vaccinating them with a brand new vaccine,
which by the way, doesn't seem to be that protective
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in the grand scheme of things. I would rather most
kids in America get COVID because it doesn't impact them
and have the immunity naturally. Then I would to force
kids who were five and six years old or than
younger to get the vaccine. Well, buck young healthy people,
there are stories out there. They are a minority. They
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are certainly outlier stories, but some young healthy people get
the vaccine and have massive issues with it, like this woman. Unfortunately,
out of the state of Washington, and you're not allowed
to talk about it for something most people. The part
of this that I think people are starting to see
and realize is really chilling is that we should have
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they talk about the science and the data, and then
they'll suppress science and data when it goes against the
narrative of the elites and the Democrat apparatus of control.
And now we've even seen something another i would say,
COVID dystopian measure unveiled that many of us had said
it was just a matter of time. Remember when we
were talking about how there are people that are saying
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they're going to deny medical care based on vaccination, deny
essential life saving medical care based on vaccination status. There's
now a Colorado based hospital system that and there's been
reporting on this, it's been confirmed. They are saying that
if you are on the organ transplant donor list and
you are unvaccinated, you're going into essentially the inactive status.
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You're not getting an organ sorry. And the way they're
justifying this is by saying, if you were to get
that organ and you were to get COVID, you are
less likely to survive. So they're treating it like a
medical triage issue when first of all, as we know,
organ donation comes with a lot of risks to begin with,
and on top of that, you can actually still get
COVID even if you get the vaccine, which we now
(32:37):
know because the fiser Fiser's own data. These study shows
that after six months your protective level is fifty percent
from infection. Yes, that's the actual data. Now, folks just
see what they don't want to yell it from the
rooftops six months or fifty fifty that you're going to
get COVID or not get it if you're exposed to it.
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It's the flu shot. And we don't ever call the
flu shot a vaccine. We say that it is a
helpful measure that elderly people should get. And people who
are called the flu shot, you don't really say the
flu vaccine. We say the flu shot because to me,
a vaccine has to be way more protective than that.
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We say, hey, it's a measles mump's rebella vaccine. And
this is what I keep hammering Homebuck, is you never
worry like I've never in my entire life worried that
I was going to get measles because I got the vaccine.
But everybody who got the COVID vaccine, in the back
of their head, they know that it's not that effective.
So they're afraid. Their fear is that they're still going
(33:39):
to get COVID even though they've gotten a vaccine. And
now we're talking about a fifty percent efficacy rate after
six months. That's basically the flu shot, right, That's what
this is for covidio. And now they're going to say,
get a booster and find me one medical doctor or
a practitioner who can say with any confidence or is
willing to say, period at you will not have to
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get more boosters after this booster for a year, keep
you protected. How could that be the case? And month
it goes away. I mean, do we think maybe people
believe we're going to cure covid so to speak. They
think that that's just over the horizon. So if we
can just get to that point. As it turns out,
that was actually what Australia and New Zealand were effectively.
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They did the lockdown until vaccine planned. That was their plan, yea,
And now they've realized, well, it doesn't really work like that.
We've never cured the common cold, We've never cured the flu,
meaning eradicated these respiratory viruses from circulation around the world.
Why would we think it is imminent that we will
cure COVID. And if it's not imminent that will cure it,
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we are just in a cycle of shots boosters. So
it does start to feel a lot more like the flu.
And I think you'll see people by the way that
continue to say that you're right, we should mask up
for flu season two, just so they can appear consistent now,
even though at the beginning we said, well that it's crazy, right, Well,
and that's what I think is going to become more
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and more challenging. Is and this is some of the
conversations we've had and will continue to have for them
months and probably years ahead. Unfortunately, how do we land
the plane? How do we get to a totally normal
American situation in a post COVID world where COVID's never
going away? And I think to your point, Buck, a
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lot of people are going to be so unwilling to
acknowledge that everything that they did, that all the lectures
that the mask wearing, that the social distancing, the parading
people who weren't vaccinated. All of that was effectively for naught.
They weren't getting a benefit from it. There's gonna be
a lot of people who insist, I think going forward, oh,
(35:47):
we have to wear masks forever on airplanes. I think.
I think every airline attendant who has humiliated and harassed
somebody for not masking up quickly enough between bites, they
should for a long time to come feel that that
twinge of remorse that can only come from those moments
in one's life when you realize how stupid and out
(36:08):
of control you were. So that's what I'm hoping we
get to where people will be deeply embarrassed by the
nonsense they put us through with. How do you think
flight ends are gonna be like, I'm sorry, I apologize.
They're gonna say they had to, but I trust me
as somebody who's been through that more than once. Yeah,
they could have been a little bit more cool about it.
Flight an, I gotta I gotta bone to pick with
(36:28):
the flight attendants. I'm not gonna lie and Claire, I
think you've got some things to say about miss joy
Behart coming up. I do Joy Behart and also news
out of Afghanistan, about the suicide bomber breaking and how
he ended up in the position to kill thirteen American soldiers.
We will talk about the national security deep dive we
come back. That sounds good to me. Yeah, you're listening
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