January 14, 2022 • 37 mins
Mollie Hemingway, senior editor at The Federalist and author of "Rigged: How the Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats Seized Our Elections," joins C&B to discuss Biden's phony "voting rights" push and Kavanaugh joining the libs on the health care worker vax mandate. Do masks make liberals more attractive to other liberals? Is Russia about to roll into Ukraine? C&B take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. We are malaising through another hour of
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all of you across this great country of ours. A
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lot of talk this week about elections, about voter protections,
voter ID and of course some crazy stuff said by
Joe Biden in that speech. If you aren't in favor
of their voting rights, that's the generic term that they
use for the federal government gets to be in charge
of all elections of all states and destroy federalism in
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the process. If you're not in favor of it, you're
on the side of the President of the Confederacy for
an example, I mean, really ugly stuff from Joe Biden's side.
Not surprising. We've got someone with us now who has
looked very closely at the realities of election integrity, both
in the twenty twenty context and going forward. Molly Hemingway,
Senior editor at The Federalist, with us Now also Fox
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News contributor. Her book is Rigged How the media, big tech,
and the Democrats seized our elections. Molly, great to have you,
It's great to be here with you. So let's start
with this one. When you're seeing the Democrats get this
whole mobilization going on voting rights, acting like there's one
never fraud and two endless numbers of people who are
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somehow being prevented from voting, but we never actually meet
any of them. What do you want people to know?
What's the truth of the election fight these days? Well?
I think, first off, it shouldn't be termed. It shouldn't
be said in terms of voting rights. Nobody credible thinks
that there's a problem with voting rights in a country
where more people voted in the last election than any
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in history by a significant margin. The question is really
about who controls elections and how secure those elections are.
Democrats have spent decades really smartly strategizing how to loosen
security of elections and open up opportunities for shenanigans, shall
we say, And they have put a lot of money
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and effort into that, and now they want to federalize that.
They think that what they did in twenty twenty to
destabilize the elections worked out well for them, and they'd
like to nationalize that and make Nancy Pelosi. The elections
are of the entire country, so it's really important in
this country that both winners and losers, and of course
that changes over time who those people are, that they
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both can trust elections. It's actually the entire republic rests
on that. So we need to always make sure that
our elections are secure and that people can trust them. Molly,
the whole story here is a mess because it feels
like Biden somehow thought his Tuesday speech was going to
change the overall calculus associated with voting rights. Instead, he
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gets kneecapped by his own senators, Cinema and Mansion saying hey, yeah,
we're not going to change things associated with the filibuster.
But in a larger context, this whole story seems very
strategically failed to me by the Democrats, because if you
look at recent Supreme Court jurisprudence as it pertains to
states having the right to set laws as it pertains
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to their elections, there's no way, in my opinion, that
these Democrat bills would be constitutional in any way at
all either. So this has always felt to me like
somebody sort of biking full speed into a brick wall
and pretending the brick wall isn't there. What am I
missing about this? Yeah? I think what you're missing is
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that the whole idea is a long con, a long game.
They might not succeed right now, but what they're trying
to do is move the window to get people to
think differently about election security and to make this a
winning issue in the next several years. And this is
another thing I think Democrats are pretty good at. They
say something that's very extreme, that has no chance of
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winning and might even cause them electoral problems in the
short run, say limitations on gun rights, but they get
over time more and more people adopting their perspective, and
that gives them the weight they need to push to
push for what they really want. I mean, everything they
did in twenty twenty they claimed was for COVID relief,
it actually have been stuff they've been working on four decades.
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Decreasing the ability to determine whether a ballot actually comes
from someone it claims to come from was something they've
been working on for a long time. It wasn't just
something they came up with during COVID expanding voting day
into voting season, which incidentally is something the country used
to have and moved away from precisely because we did
see too much fraud when you expanded voting day beyond
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a single day into you know, you have different states
voting on different days for presidential elections, and it did
increase the chance of fraud. And so these things, these
things have been flow But the Democrats are very good,
I think about thinking long term and not just about
the win that they can get right now, because I
don't think they're going to get it right now, but
they're thinking next year and beyond. We're speaking of Molly Hemingway,
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author of Rigged, How the media, big Tech, and the
Democrats seized our elections, And to that end, Molly talk
to us about the role because you know big tech.
We're often having these discussions about one, the way that
the censorship and the essentially the collusion with not just
the Democrat Party generally, but with the White House specifically
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to suppress conservative and just alternative points of view is
out in the open. They're demanding more of it. They're
not pretending not to do it. Which was the case
even let's say five or six years ago. How did
big tech change in your mind the course of the
twenty twenty election, and what can we do about it.
It's funny because we talk about election laws, which were
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very important and there were massive problems with it, but
it pales in comparison to how much big tech controlled
the outcome of the election. You might remember that when
Democrats spent four years claiming that the twenty sixteen election
was stolen, that they didn't really have a case, and
like they're case was that it was stolen because Russians
had bought a couple like one hundred thousand dollars in
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Facebook ads, some of them for Hillary Clinton, some of
them for Donald Trump. That was enough to have the
country be hysterical. We'll compare that with what happened in
twenty twenty. For four years, I think big tech really
worried that they had helped Trump win by allowing him
to go around the media and speak directly to people.
So they started changing algorithms. They started de platforming the
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most effective conservative voices, They increased the reach of leftist voices.
They engaged in so much election rigging it's unbelievable. I mean,
just by way of it's like to take one small example,
when Donald Trump would say that mail in ballots were
susceptible to fraud, something that everybody agreed with prior to
twenty twenty, including the country of France, that Jimmy Carter
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election commissioned the New York Times, Washington Post, he would
be censored for saying that. And when Joe Biden said
that there was like a conspiracy with the Post Office
to control the out come of the election, none of
those tweets were censored. None of that rhetoric from anyone
on the left was censored. And it was, you know,
a crazy conspiracy theory that affects elections, and most dramatically, also,
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you think about how they conspired with Democrats and other
people in the media to suppress the single most important
story of the twenty twenty election, which was information about
the corruption of the Biden family business. There is no
question that American voters had a right to know about
the Biden family business, how it worked, who all was
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involved in foreign entities and the big tech companies. You know,
brutally suppressed that story. And you know, again go back
to that Russia story. You know, one hundred thousand dollars
in Facebook ads is a sort of horrible threat to democracy.
But then you look at what they did in twenty
twenty and it's just as so much more massive. Molly,
as you were about to come on, and we appreciate
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you coming on. Right before the show started, I was
looking at my Twitter trending tab section and I'm not
sure if you had a chance to look at this
thread yet, but I shared a couple of days ago,
and we played on this show the Fiser CEO saying
the first couple of shots of his vaccine had limited,
if any protection against the new omicron variant of COVID,
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and he said that in an interview it was with
Yahoo News. It was distributed. Twitter took it down and
said it was a copyright violation. I then put it
back up. Some other user had grabbed it. They didn't
take that down. But then they brought in we're going
to talk about this a little bit here on the show.
In a moment, they brought in a fact checker Reuters,
and Reuters said that the Fiser CEO is be taken out,
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being taken out of context. If you look at what
they're doing right now. It is an unbelievable height of disinformation.
Reuter's chairman, by the way, sits on the board at Fiser.
They are the official fact checker for Twitter. This is
effectively a paid advertisement for Twitter masquerading as a factual
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fact check. This kind of thing happens all the time.
How do we fix it. I'm not entirely sure how
to fix it, but it is a massive issue. It
feels soviet what they're doing. Yes, they are limiting what
people can say about things that we all see and
that we all witness. They're saying, there's one approved interpretation
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of events. I mean, it is true that people sometimes
misinterpret things or take things out of context. The cure
for that is people saying that you can say it
in response, no, actually, this is what they meant to say,
or here's how that should be read, and people debate.
And that's what happens in a free society. In an
authoritarian regime like the one we have now, with big
tech colluding with you know, at the request of Joe Biden.
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He just yesterday said, yes, I ask you, my allies
in big tech, please suppress information. If I say it's disinformation,
I mean, that's not a direct quote, but that's what
he was saying. He decides what disinformation and misinformation is,
and then and then you get suppressed based on what
his views are. With everybody in big tech being almost
everybody in big tech being closely aligned with the Democrat Party,
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this is a this is an attack on some of
our most foundational values as a country, that we have
the right to pursue truth and that we can do
that by obtaining information and debating the meaning of that information.
It is so Unamerican, and there's so much money in this.
As you note, people are paying to do this suppression
of information. And it's not just American companies, it's China
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is heavily involved in all of this. It works for
them to control the people and control the flow of information,
but it's sort of not working because the one thing
you know is that if something is fact checked, that's
a good chance that actually it's true. Molly's the author
of Rigged How the media, big Tech, and the Democrats
seized our elections. I'm actually about to buy my copy
in real times. I'm talking to you right now online, Molly.
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Before I let you go, though, When people as I'm
sure they do all the time come up to you
and say that there was fraud in the twenty twenty election.
What do you say to them, Well, I think that
people need to expand their understanding of what happened in
twenty twenty to be much, much, much bigger than fraud.
And what I talk about in the book is how
there were changes to hundreds of election laws to make
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it difficult to even detect fraud, to make it so
that you couldn't have confidence and the results that you
wouldn't know if a ballot was legit. That Mark Zuckerberg
another way that big tech medals spent four hundred and
nineteen million dollars to take over government election offices and
flood it with left wing activists so that they could
run the Democratic get out the vote operation in blue
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areas of swing states. It was complicated, It was a conspiracy. Actually,
even Time magazine admits it was a conspiracy which they
described as a cabal of powerful people in all these
different establishment institutions to control the outcome of the election.
So I think, don't limit yourself to just fraud. It's
much bigger, much much more coordinated and widespread, and much
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more effective in controlling the outcome of the election. Molly,
last question for you, were you surprised that Brett Havanaugh.
You wrote a great book about Brett Kavanaugh that he
flipped his vote for the to allow the healthcare mandate.
And that's kind of a two part question. Do you,
based on your connections to the Supreme Court, think that
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Stephen Bryer is going to step down as Democrats are
trying to persuade him to do by the end of
this term. So there's a lot there, but um yay,
I would just say it never works well to pressure
people to pressure these justices to resign. It usually means
that that's how they will stay there forever. I wrote
in The Justice on Trial with Carrie Saborino about how
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the Trump administration was able to encourage Anthony Kennedy to
feel comfortable stepping down, which enabled them to nominate Brett Kavanaugh,
And then we also detail why he was chosen for
that position, and it really had a lot to do
with how narrow Republicans held the Senate and how they
couldn't really put someone much more strong than he was.
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And you know, we tell that whole story. So I'm
sad not completely surprised, but there were very particular circumstances
for why he was chosen. Molly having or everybody check
out rigged her book. Look at your copy now, Molly,
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Molly Hemingway is always really good and like you Buck,
during that commercial break, I was like, you know what,
I need to go get her newest book rigged because
I think it goes directly into some of this big
tech shenanigans that you and I deal with and see
on a day to day basis that maybe many out there,
Miss I just bought it. So I just bought it
on Amazon. Yep, yeah, fifteen bucks. Speaking of big tech.
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Now we're giving big tech book direction independently owned bookstore.
Doesn't matter which direction we go, they still get us. Uh,
speaking of it doesn't matter what direction you go. This.
I saw this story and I couldn't believe it. Buck,
masks make you more attractive. This is what we were
we were texting it. First of all, I don't know,
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I'm gonna start off here by blaming any woman who is, like,
you know what, the guy that I want to spend
the rest of my life with, the guy that I
want to date. The thing that initially attracted me to
him was the way he was wearing his mask. I
just don't have kids because I don't want your gens
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to propagate any further. I think you have failed. This
is an example of survival of the fittest. We can't
have people who are making choices based on mask wearing
going ahead and continuing to propagate the species. But Buck,
this is evidently a thing that they're trying to share.
I mean, I know people who have had and this
is not like I have a friend. I do actually
know people this is not me, who have been on
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dates where COVID policy, whether vaccination or mask has come up,
and it will the whole thing will come off the
tracks right away. I know someone who said that she
was out with a with a with a vaccine. Well,
let's just say she was unvaxed at dinner with someone
who was vaxed and that hadn't been explained beforehand. Dinner
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over dinner over one of the girls that now works
at OutKick was dating a guy and she found out
he found out that she worked at OutKick and she
was like, oh, you're you're a He was like, you're
a Clay Travis guy. This is in the world of sports.
And she said, yeah, you know, I work with Clay.
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I think you know, OutKick is pretty cool. And he
was like, yeah, we can't date anymore. Oh my god.
And I was just thinking to myself, can you imagine
being such a beta loser dude that when the girl
you're dating is a fan of somebody that you don't like,
You're just like, yeah, sorry, I can't date you anymore.
We're talking about a good, good looking girl. I do
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a better job of sifting out in the very initial
phase now, Clay. But I will tell you I have
had second dates canceled because the lady they google you
googled me. Yes, that has happened to me. And it's
not like there's any I mean, you google me, it's
exactly who people here in the show. But they didn't
really know, you know, I'd say, oh, you know, I
work in media and I'm conservative, and you know, they
think maybe I'm like a like a nice national review
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boat show wearing yachting New England conservative. They don't realize,
like I refer to the Libs as commies all the time.
Do you think it was her or do you think
she told a friend and the friend was like, oh
my god, he's a friend and they say that you're
all right? Or if someone even throws around the thing
word racist in any way just because you're a Republican
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on your right wing, then it's all over. Not gonna
get invited to the fancy brunch at Pastie. Can't have that. Yeah,
it's amazing. I think I think you're right. I think
it's almost always the friends that ends up putting that
on the ice. But I, you know, been married for
seventeen years, so I don't have to worry about that.
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and Buck. Is Russia going in question? A lot of
people look it at Right now, we're switching gears for
a second here in the clam Buck Show, just for
a few minutes. To international affairs and the possibility of
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war breaking out. Here's the headline on Daily Mail right now.
Putin will stage false flag attack on his own troops
as an excuse to invade Ukraine. US intelligence warrens. Russia's
sabotage plan revealed as Moscow sends more troops to the border,
and Kiev or Kiev as some say it is hit
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with a massive cyber attack. So we have over one
hundred thousand troops built up already on the border, Russian
troops on the border with Ukraine. It does seem as
though there's a very real possibility here, an imminent one,
of a Russian incursion. And this will obviously create a
whole lot of well first national security challenges for the
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Ukrainians because they're gonna have to fight against a very
capable and very serious Russian military. But beyond that, the
Biden regime, which is already belly flopping it seems every
day in the pool, so to speak, is going to
be in a position where they're supposed to lead some
kind of international diplomatic consortium to hold back Putin. There's
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so much here. I think it's fascinaming clay for one thing.
You know, when the Russians took a big chunk off
of Crimea, or rather of Ukraine in Crimea by seizing
it essentially through a what people view as a phony
referendum or a fraudulent one. You know, how they when
they seized Eastern Ukraine. It was when Obama was president.
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Oh yeah, this is this to me is the most
interesting part about the Russian collusion disaster on many different levels.
But Russia actually feared doing things while Donald Trump was
president in a way that they have not when Barack
Obama or Joe Biden have been in office. And so
you're the international affairs an expert here, So how do
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you play this out? So if if this is going
to happen, if Ukraine is going to be invaded by Russia,
let's presume that they do it the United States, because
this is what they're doing in Russia right now. Right
they are game planning, strategizing, game theorizing what the United
States response and what the larger international community response is
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going to be. So if Ukraine has invaded, Joe Biden's
first response is what and what ultimately is he able
to do to stop this or in any way significantly
censure this in any way. There's very little that they'll
be able to do to either prevent it at this
point if the Kremlin, if Putin, Putin and the Kremlin
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are one and the same, right, he's running that country
as an actual dictator and authoritary, you know, you heard
this or four years under Trump. Yeah, Trump was such
a dictator that anytime I'm some judge from the Ninth
Circuit would be like you can't do that, he was like,
all right, I'll see you in court. That's that's not
how dictators work. We all know that, right. But Putin
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is a is a dictator, and so he'll do whatever
he wants if he views it in Russia's interests, national
security interests to do this. Then there's very little that
the US, and quite honestly, there's very little any US
president could do right now. If if you're really close
to that decision point, it's unlikely there'd be much that
would be done to sway them because nobody, and this
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is important to say from the outset, nobody believes that
the US should put troops in Ukraine to fight on
behalf of this country. And if you're wondering how clear
that is, the Russian incursion that we're preparing for here
would be an escalation, really clay of a war that's
already been going on for about about five six years now,
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maybe even longer than that. This goes all the way
back to the Obama years, when the Dawn Boss region
of each in Ukraine was essentially a pseudo separatist region.
It was really Russian paramilitaries out of uniform who were saying,
we are now forming the independent, you know, Republic of
Dunbass or whatever it was. And so that this has
been going on for a while. You've had Ukrainian soldiers
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in trench, actual trenches, trench warfare on the eastern on
the eastern part of the country where dun Boss is
squaring off against these these Russian back where in many
cases actually just Russian separatists who have come across the border.
So this is a this is going to be a
very serious escalation of that conflict. But that's been going
on already for years. And to your point about the
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question about what will the Biden administration do, putin knows
what the latte drinkers in Brussels and the rest of
the EU will do in response to this, and that's
very very or the Hague really that's very very little.
They'll have conversations about it, they'll be sanctions, but Russia
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is really too big to sanction in a meaningful way.
The guys in charge there are so rich. How are
you going to sanction them? As long as they're selling
oil and natural gas to countries like Germany in on
a huge scale, sanctions aren't going to cripple this country.
So that's why I think you're going to see a
lot of ineffective talk. You're going to see some countries
on the Russian periphery, notably the actual NATO countries that
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we have, right Ukraine is not a NATO country saying hey,
you better put more stops. Yeah yeah, and so we
need more resources, we want us presence or we want
additional help for our military there. But this is gonna
this is gonna be a conflict I think could get
could get really ugly very fast. And now that that's
the general American I would say response. Right now, we
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got out of Afghanistan after the twenty year basically disaster,
and we left and is dispirited and pathetic of a
way as was possible. So if Russia invade Ukraine and
we issue some sort of diplomatic response in conjunction with
other Western democracies, what's a worst case scenario here for
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the United States? If you're projecting out how things could
go awry in a way, that becomes a major negative
because Frankly, most people in the United States don't know
anything about Ukraine. We need to get your buddy on
who was so good from Ukraine? Oh yeah, who's been
living there? Living there for you were gonna have him back?
For sure. He's in Ukraine still. He's been covering this
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on the front lines. He was fantastic and trying to
contextualize why it mattered. But from your perspective, what's the
worst case scenario here? Worst case scenario would be that
there's some some consensus that forms in the national security
and international relations circles of our of the current the
Biden regime government, that maybe we do need to put
some US troops. The worst case scenario as you have
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Americans shooting at Russians in any capacity in Ukraine or
over at least this is in my opinion, my estimation,
that's the worst case. I don't think that's going to happen.
I think that's, you know, less than a five percent
chance of actually occurring, very very very remote. But there
is going to be because for all the focus on Ukraine,
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there are other places where there could be this playbook
run again. This happened in South South Ostia and Georgia,
in Georgia and Abkhazia, these breakaway regions again that they're
Russian backed. So what they do is they go and
they find areas of Russian speakers on the Russian periphery
and they foment essentially some kind of revolt or rebellion.
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Then the Russians deploy military force and say, we're protecting
our own this is a humanitarian or even peacekeeping mission.
And they call this Maskarovka, which is the Russian warfare
by deception, and they're very good at cyber they're very
good at picking people off and doing this, and they're
trying to expand. The Russians are trying to expand their
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defensible perimeter against the threat of NATO, which they still
view very much Clay as a threat. We just say, oh,
NATO's a thing. They say, Nada was a huge military
alliance made to stop us, and we don't want them
on our border. At least this is what this is
Putin's vision and version of events. So I think it's
very very likely that you will see a major incursion there.
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And now you're talking about you know, two developed countries
with you know, advanced economies and technology going toe to toe.
The Ukrainians wouldn't be able to put up much of
a you know, battlefield tank for tank fight if you will.
But if there's some kind of enduring insurgency that could
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actually happen, that's where I think you can see things
getting really ugly. And if you want to an approximation
of this, you can just go and see what it
was like back in Czechnia in the nineties when people
were like, oh my gosh, the Chechenia was turned into
a hell hole because of the fighting that was going
on there. So anyway, I don't have a lot of
there's not a lot of happy talk to be had
of it. Yeah, no kidding, we need something a little
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and Buck Sexton Show. Everybody appreciate you being here with us.
We have Glenn Beck coming in at the top of
the hour next so he'll be with us a two
o five Eastern on his book about the Great Reset,
and we're excited to talking about that, especially as you
see the Libs aren't changing their minds about all the
policies for COVID right all of a sudden. The control
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that they've enjoyed is something they don't seem to want
to let go of, even though it would mean we
could all breathe more freely, stop worrying or being around
worried people less. And plus we have at the bottom
of the next hour, so that'll be two thirty Eastern
Rona McDaniel, the RNC chairman, talking to us about should
Republicans play the presidential debate game the way they have
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in the past, where you have Lib activists from networks
like CNN and ABC and NBC getting to stack the
deck in favor of the Democrats in a variety of ways.
We'll get into all that in a second. Marv in
Southern Ontario, Canada has some thoughts. What's up, Marv, Hi, guys,
Shield High? There we go, Shield High, sir, Thank you
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for calling in. Oh, no problem anyway. Um I'm I'm
I'm great fans of both of you, A great fan
of of Rush um Buck. I love it when you
go on gut Field, and I think that if you
and Clay got on Gutfield together, you would tear it up.
I think it would be awesome, that'd be great. Well,
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I'm not allowed to go to New York City right
now because oh my gosh, that's right. But that's right. Yeah,
one day, Yeah, I smuggle Clay. I can't enter the
I can't enter the island of Manhattan or New York
City any of the boroughs. But otherwise, yeah, that would
be a lot of fun be a bubble boy. Anyway.
I'm just calling in real quick because I have not
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heard any media attention. A very close friend of mine
ended up getting a Fiser vax. Two days later, he's
sitting having breakfast with his wife and his left side
of his face goes numb. Um, his eye starts tearing,
his jaw drops like he's um, you know, just got
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out of a dental chair. His wife says, you're having
a stroke. He said, I'm not having a stroke. Um.
He ended up going to er. A neurologist comes in
and says, you've got Bell's palsy. And he said, you've
got Bell's palsy is a side effect of fiser now
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I have not heard this on the media, but if
you go online and you look up Bell's palsy, your
first five hits on an internet search are going to
be Fiser's side effects. Nobody's ever said it, thank you,
thank you for it. I haven't heard of that as
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a side effect of the by the way, that's me.
That's me not disagreeing or agree. I don't know. I
haven't heard of that before as a side effect. Have
you heard of that before as a side effect for anybody.
I'm gonna be honest, I am not that well informed
on overall side effects from the vaccine because I didn't
get the vaccine, so I didn't worry about your problem.
Effects might be yeah, but we know that the VAERS
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database is overflowing with people who claim that they have
had negative side effects from the vaccine, and those are
supposed to be investigated and determined. I will say there
has been a lot of discussion, for instance, in teenage boys,
about the impact of myocarditis. That's one that I have
paid attention because I chose not to get My oldest
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son is going to turn fourteen this month, and my
wife and I have made the decision not to get
him vaccinated. Certainly, I'm not getting my eleven year old
or my seven year old vaccinated. But I looked into
the risk for teenage boys in particular. He's not at
risk from COVID from the vaccine. So I looked at that,
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and so I would encourage everybody to do their research.
I think the quote the caller's hitting at is a
lot of media don't want to write anything negative about
the vaccines at all. One thing that I will say
I have noticed, and I thought about this because I
flipped on I flipped on Fox this morning. Again. You know,
sometimes you'll see, and this is standard across all these channels,
you'll see an add for any kind of a pharmaceutical, right,
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a pharmaceutical that deals with you know, arthritis, whatever it
may be. And you it's always the same thing. Right.
You have people kind of kind of like dancing on
a beach and then like riding horseback, and it's like,
what does this have to do with arthrite? I mean,
I guess you could maybe arthritis actually does. But some
of these drugs, you're like, uh, apparently everyone's just dancing
in fields of grain and there's like sunshine and then
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they do the thing. It's like may cause you know, headache, nausea,
a dizziness, painful foot syndrome like leaky got said, you know,
goes with a hundred different things. That's our norm for
all kinds of pharmaceuticals. I mean, even if you look
on a bottle of Thailan all you know, a non
steroidal anti inflammatory drug, they'll be the may cause stomach bleeding. Right,
that's right, there could cause stomach bleeding. I've taken talent
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I don't know how many times in my life, never
had a problem. Interesting that with the vaccines, it's like,
shut up about any side effects. You know, there's something different,
there's something weird about that disparity. Oh and they have
no legal liability for them whatsoever, by the way, and
also just it's the very antithesis of media to be
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carrying water, which is what the Biden administration is asking
constantly to protect the people in positions of power and
their stories and not be allowed to challenge them in
any way. And again, I think there's a big difference
between anecdote and data supports, right, and oftentimes what I
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think the media gets most wrong is they use whatever
anecdotal story there is right, that twenty five year old
who supposedly was otherwise healthy got COVID and they died.
It ricochets throughout all of social media. Right, it's an outlier.
It doesn't mean it can't happen. It means it's hyper unlikely,
but it doesn't mean that it can't happen. Right. And
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So I think there's a difference between using anecdote to
illustrate incident that is occurring very often an anecdote that
almost never occurs, that is used to try to foment
a particular narrative, and I think the media oftentimes fails
that test. Sylvia in Spokane, Washington, Hey, Sylvia, how you
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doing great? Great? Hey? In December? I am Also in January,
I went down to Fort Worth, Texas and back again.
And I'm a redneck redneck, but I'm old and I'm
a little bit feeble. And I was only brave enough
to wear that mask as I came in this book,
Can said, which would have been the second time, and
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I said, this mask is useless, as Biden. But I
did get one hug from a stewardess major airline. Other
people looked at me bit the air for aid to
say anything, well, Sylvia, Clay and I are sending atastic story. Yeah,
that's fantastic, great stuff. Thank you, Sylvia. We've got our
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buddy Glenn Beck going to be joining us in a moment.
Here's got a book on the Great Reset. What does
all the COVID fauciite madness have to do with the
Great Reset? Glenn is going to lay it all out
for you plus bottom the next hour. It's about thirty
minutes and change from now. Should Republicans take part in
the presidential debates as scheduled or do something else? We'll
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talk to Rona McDaniel about it. Stick around, you're listening
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all of you across this great country of ours. A
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lot of talk this week about elections, about voter protections,
voter ID and of course some crazy stuff said by
Joe Biden in that speech. If you aren't in favor
of their voting rights, that's the generic term that they
use for the federal government gets to be in charge
of all elections of all states and destroy federalism in
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the process. If you're not in favor of it, you're
on the side of the President of the Confederacy for
an example, I mean, really ugly stuff from Joe Biden's side.
Not surprising. We've got someone with us now who has
looked very closely at the realities of election integrity, both
in the twenty twenty context and going forward. Molly Hemingway,
Senior editor at The Federalist, with us Now also Fox
(01:03):
News contributor. Her book is Rigged How the media, big tech,
and the Democrats seized our elections. Molly, great to have you,
It's great to be here with you. So let's start
with this one. When you're seeing the Democrats get this
whole mobilization going on voting rights, acting like there's one
never fraud and two endless numbers of people who are
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somehow being prevented from voting, but we never actually meet
any of them. What do you want people to know?
What's the truth of the election fight these days? Well?
I think, first off, it shouldn't be termed. It shouldn't
be said in terms of voting rights. Nobody credible thinks
that there's a problem with voting rights in a country
where more people voted in the last election than any
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in history by a significant margin. The question is really
about who controls elections and how secure those elections are.
Democrats have spent decades really smartly strategizing how to loosen
security of elections and open up opportunities for shenanigans, shall
we say, And they have put a lot of money
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and effort into that, and now they want to federalize that.
They think that what they did in twenty twenty to
destabilize the elections worked out well for them, and they'd
like to nationalize that and make Nancy Pelosi. The elections
are of the entire country, so it's really important in
this country that both winners and losers, and of course
that changes over time who those people are, that they
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both can trust elections. It's actually the entire republic rests
on that. So we need to always make sure that
our elections are secure and that people can trust them. Molly,
the whole story here is a mess because it feels
like Biden somehow thought his Tuesday speech was going to
change the overall calculus associated with voting rights. Instead, he
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gets kneecapped by his own senators, Cinema and Mansion saying hey, yeah,
we're not going to change things associated with the filibuster.
But in a larger context, this whole story seems very
strategically failed to me by the Democrats, because if you
look at recent Supreme Court jurisprudence as it pertains to
states having the right to set laws as it pertains
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to their elections, there's no way, in my opinion, that
these Democrat bills would be constitutional in any way at
all either. So this has always felt to me like
somebody sort of biking full speed into a brick wall
and pretending the brick wall isn't there. What am I
missing about this? Yeah? I think what you're missing is
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that the whole idea is a long con, a long game.
They might not succeed right now, but what they're trying
to do is move the window to get people to
think differently about election security and to make this a
winning issue in the next several years. And this is
another thing I think Democrats are pretty good at. They
say something that's very extreme, that has no chance of
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winning and might even cause them electoral problems in the
short run, say limitations on gun rights, but they get
over time more and more people adopting their perspective, and
that gives them the weight they need to push to
push for what they really want. I mean, everything they
did in twenty twenty they claimed was for COVID relief,
it actually have been stuff they've been working on four decades.
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Decreasing the ability to determine whether a ballot actually comes
from someone it claims to come from was something they've
been working on for a long time. It wasn't just
something they came up with during COVID expanding voting day
into voting season, which incidentally is something the country used
to have and moved away from precisely because we did
see too much fraud when you expanded voting day beyond
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a single day into you know, you have different states
voting on different days for presidential elections, and it did
increase the chance of fraud. And so these things, these
things have been flow But the Democrats are very good,
I think about thinking long term and not just about
the win that they can get right now, because I
don't think they're going to get it right now, but
they're thinking next year and beyond. We're speaking of Molly Hemingway,
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author of Rigged, How the media, big Tech, and the
Democrats seized our elections, And to that end, Molly talk
to us about the role because you know big tech.
We're often having these discussions about one, the way that
the censorship and the essentially the collusion with not just
the Democrat Party generally, but with the White House specifically
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to suppress conservative and just alternative points of view is
out in the open. They're demanding more of it. They're
not pretending not to do it. Which was the case
even let's say five or six years ago. How did
big tech change in your mind the course of the
twenty twenty election, and what can we do about it.
It's funny because we talk about election laws, which were
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very important and there were massive problems with it, but
it pales in comparison to how much big tech controlled
the outcome of the election. You might remember that when
Democrats spent four years claiming that the twenty sixteen election
was stolen, that they didn't really have a case, and
like they're case was that it was stolen because Russians
had bought a couple like one hundred thousand dollars in
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Facebook ads, some of them for Hillary Clinton, some of
them for Donald Trump. That was enough to have the
country be hysterical. We'll compare that with what happened in
twenty twenty. For four years, I think big tech really
worried that they had helped Trump win by allowing him
to go around the media and speak directly to people.
So they started changing algorithms. They started de platforming the
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most effective conservative voices, They increased the reach of leftist voices.
They engaged in so much election rigging it's unbelievable. I mean,
just by way of it's like to take one small example,
when Donald Trump would say that mail in ballots were
susceptible to fraud, something that everybody agreed with prior to
twenty twenty, including the country of France, that Jimmy Carter
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election commissioned the New York Times, Washington Post, he would
be censored for saying that. And when Joe Biden said
that there was like a conspiracy with the Post Office
to control the out come of the election, none of
those tweets were censored. None of that rhetoric from anyone
on the left was censored. And it was, you know,
a crazy conspiracy theory that affects elections, and most dramatically, also,
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you think about how they conspired with Democrats and other
people in the media to suppress the single most important
story of the twenty twenty election, which was information about
the corruption of the Biden family business. There is no
question that American voters had a right to know about
the Biden family business, how it worked, who all was
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involved in foreign entities and the big tech companies. You know,
brutally suppressed that story. And you know, again go back
to that Russia story. You know, one hundred thousand dollars
in Facebook ads is a sort of horrible threat to democracy.
But then you look at what they did in twenty
twenty and it's just as so much more massive. Molly,
as you were about to come on, and we appreciate
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you coming on. Right before the show started, I was
looking at my Twitter trending tab section and I'm not
sure if you had a chance to look at this
thread yet, but I shared a couple of days ago,
and we played on this show the Fiser CEO saying
the first couple of shots of his vaccine had limited,
if any protection against the new omicron variant of COVID,
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and he said that in an interview it was with
Yahoo News. It was distributed. Twitter took it down and
said it was a copyright violation. I then put it
back up. Some other user had grabbed it. They didn't
take that down. But then they brought in we're going
to talk about this a little bit here on the show.
In a moment, they brought in a fact checker Reuters,
and Reuters said that the Fiser CEO is be taken out,
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being taken out of context. If you look at what
they're doing right now. It is an unbelievable height of disinformation.
Reuter's chairman, by the way, sits on the board at Fiser.
They are the official fact checker for Twitter. This is
effectively a paid advertisement for Twitter masquerading as a factual
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fact check. This kind of thing happens all the time.
How do we fix it. I'm not entirely sure how
to fix it, but it is a massive issue. It
feels soviet what they're doing. Yes, they are limiting what
people can say about things that we all see and
that we all witness. They're saying, there's one approved interpretation
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of events. I mean, it is true that people sometimes
misinterpret things or take things out of context. The cure
for that is people saying that you can say it
in response, no, actually, this is what they meant to say,
or here's how that should be read, and people debate.
And that's what happens in a free society. In an
authoritarian regime like the one we have now, with big
tech colluding with you know, at the request of Joe Biden.
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He just yesterday said, yes, I ask you, my allies
in big tech, please suppress information. If I say it's disinformation,
I mean, that's not a direct quote, but that's what
he was saying. He decides what disinformation and misinformation is,
and then and then you get suppressed based on what
his views are. With everybody in big tech being almost
everybody in big tech being closely aligned with the Democrat Party,
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this is a this is an attack on some of
our most foundational values as a country, that we have
the right to pursue truth and that we can do
that by obtaining information and debating the meaning of that information.
It is so Unamerican, and there's so much money in this.
As you note, people are paying to do this suppression
of information. And it's not just American companies, it's China
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is heavily involved in all of this. It works for
them to control the people and control the flow of information,
but it's sort of not working because the one thing
you know is that if something is fact checked, that's
a good chance that actually it's true. Molly's the author
of Rigged How the media, big Tech, and the Democrats
seized our elections. I'm actually about to buy my copy
in real times. I'm talking to you right now online, Molly.
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Before I let you go, though, When people as I'm
sure they do all the time come up to you
and say that there was fraud in the twenty twenty election.
What do you say to them, Well, I think that
people need to expand their understanding of what happened in
twenty twenty to be much, much, much bigger than fraud.
And what I talk about in the book is how
there were changes to hundreds of election laws to make
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it difficult to even detect fraud, to make it so
that you couldn't have confidence and the results that you
wouldn't know if a ballot was legit. That Mark Zuckerberg
another way that big tech medals spent four hundred and
nineteen million dollars to take over government election offices and
flood it with left wing activists so that they could
run the Democratic get out the vote operation in blue
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areas of swing states. It was complicated, It was a conspiracy. Actually,
even Time magazine admits it was a conspiracy which they
described as a cabal of powerful people in all these
different establishment institutions to control the outcome of the election.
So I think, don't limit yourself to just fraud. It's
much bigger, much much more coordinated and widespread, and much
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more effective in controlling the outcome of the election. Molly,
last question for you, were you surprised that Brett Havanaugh.
You wrote a great book about Brett Kavanaugh that he
flipped his vote for the to allow the healthcare mandate.
And that's kind of a two part question. Do you,
based on your connections to the Supreme Court, think that
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Stephen Bryer is going to step down as Democrats are
trying to persuade him to do by the end of
this term. So there's a lot there, but um yay,
I would just say it never works well to pressure
people to pressure these justices to resign. It usually means
that that's how they will stay there forever. I wrote
in The Justice on Trial with Carrie Saborino about how
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the Trump administration was able to encourage Anthony Kennedy to
feel comfortable stepping down, which enabled them to nominate Brett Kavanaugh,
And then we also detail why he was chosen for
that position, and it really had a lot to do
with how narrow Republicans held the Senate and how they
couldn't really put someone much more strong than he was.
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And you know, we tell that whole story. So I'm
sad not completely surprised, but there were very particular circumstances
for why he was chosen. Molly having or everybody check
out rigged her book. Look at your copy now, Molly,
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Molly Hemingway is always really good and like you Buck,
during that commercial break, I was like, you know what,
I need to go get her newest book rigged because
I think it goes directly into some of this big
tech shenanigans that you and I deal with and see
on a day to day basis that maybe many out there,
Miss I just bought it. So I just bought it
on Amazon. Yep, yeah, fifteen bucks. Speaking of big tech.
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Now we're giving big tech book direction independently owned bookstore.
Doesn't matter which direction we go, they still get us. Uh,
speaking of it doesn't matter what direction you go. This.
I saw this story and I couldn't believe it. Buck,
masks make you more attractive. This is what we were
we were texting it. First of all, I don't know,
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I'm gonna start off here by blaming any woman who is, like,
you know what, the guy that I want to spend
the rest of my life with, the guy that I
want to date. The thing that initially attracted me to
him was the way he was wearing his mask. I
just don't have kids because I don't want your gens
(15:27):
to propagate any further. I think you have failed. This
is an example of survival of the fittest. We can't
have people who are making choices based on mask wearing
going ahead and continuing to propagate the species. But Buck,
this is evidently a thing that they're trying to share.
I mean, I know people who have had and this
is not like I have a friend. I do actually
know people this is not me, who have been on
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dates where COVID policy, whether vaccination or mask has come up,
and it will the whole thing will come off the
tracks right away. I know someone who said that she
was out with a with a with a vaccine. Well,
let's just say she was unvaxed at dinner with someone
who was vaxed and that hadn't been explained beforehand. Dinner
(16:10):
over dinner over one of the girls that now works
at OutKick was dating a guy and she found out
he found out that she worked at OutKick and she
was like, oh, you're you're a He was like, you're
a Clay Travis guy. This is in the world of sports.
And she said, yeah, you know, I work with Clay.
(16:31):
I think you know, OutKick is pretty cool. And he
was like, yeah, we can't date anymore. Oh my god.
And I was just thinking to myself, can you imagine
being such a beta loser dude that when the girl
you're dating is a fan of somebody that you don't like,
You're just like, yeah, sorry, I can't date you anymore.
We're talking about a good, good looking girl. I do
(16:52):
a better job of sifting out in the very initial
phase now, Clay. But I will tell you I have
had second dates canceled because the lady they google you
googled me. Yes, that has happened to me. And it's
not like there's any I mean, you google me, it's
exactly who people here in the show. But they didn't
really know, you know, I'd say, oh, you know, I
work in media and I'm conservative, and you know, they
think maybe I'm like a like a nice national review
(17:16):
boat show wearing yachting New England conservative. They don't realize,
like I refer to the Libs as commies all the time.
Do you think it was her or do you think
she told a friend and the friend was like, oh
my god, he's a friend and they say that you're
all right? Or if someone even throws around the thing
word racist in any way just because you're a Republican
(17:37):
on your right wing, then it's all over. Not gonna
get invited to the fancy brunch at Pastie. Can't have that. Yeah,
it's amazing. I think I think you're right. I think
it's almost always the friends that ends up putting that
on the ice. But I, you know, been married for
seventeen years, so I don't have to worry about that.
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and Buck. Is Russia going in question? A lot of
people look it at Right now, we're switching gears for
a second here in the clam Buck Show, just for
a few minutes. To international affairs and the possibility of
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war breaking out. Here's the headline on Daily Mail right now.
Putin will stage false flag attack on his own troops
as an excuse to invade Ukraine. US intelligence warrens. Russia's
sabotage plan revealed as Moscow sends more troops to the border,
and Kiev or Kiev as some say it is hit
(19:32):
with a massive cyber attack. So we have over one
hundred thousand troops built up already on the border, Russian
troops on the border with Ukraine. It does seem as
though there's a very real possibility here, an imminent one,
of a Russian incursion. And this will obviously create a
whole lot of well first national security challenges for the
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Ukrainians because they're gonna have to fight against a very
capable and very serious Russian military. But beyond that, the
Biden regime, which is already belly flopping it seems every
day in the pool, so to speak, is going to
be in a position where they're supposed to lead some
kind of international diplomatic consortium to hold back Putin. There's
(20:18):
so much here. I think it's fascinaming clay for one thing.
You know, when the Russians took a big chunk off
of Crimea, or rather of Ukraine in Crimea by seizing
it essentially through a what people view as a phony
referendum or a fraudulent one. You know, how they when
they seized Eastern Ukraine. It was when Obama was president.
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Oh yeah, this is this to me is the most
interesting part about the Russian collusion disaster on many different levels.
But Russia actually feared doing things while Donald Trump was
president in a way that they have not when Barack
Obama or Joe Biden have been in office. And so
you're the international affairs an expert here, So how do
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you play this out? So if if this is going
to happen, if Ukraine is going to be invaded by Russia,
let's presume that they do it the United States, because
this is what they're doing in Russia right now. Right
they are game planning, strategizing, game theorizing what the United
States response and what the larger international community response is
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going to be. So if Ukraine has invaded, Joe Biden's
first response is what and what ultimately is he able
to do to stop this or in any way significantly
censure this in any way. There's very little that they'll
be able to do to either prevent it at this
point if the Kremlin, if Putin, Putin and the Kremlin
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are one and the same, right, he's running that country
as an actual dictator and authoritary, you know, you heard
this or four years under Trump. Yeah, Trump was such
a dictator that anytime I'm some judge from the Ninth
Circuit would be like you can't do that, he was like,
all right, I'll see you in court. That's that's not
how dictators work. We all know that, right. But Putin
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is a is a dictator, and so he'll do whatever
he wants if he views it in Russia's interests, national
security interests to do this. Then there's very little that
the US, and quite honestly, there's very little any US
president could do right now. If if you're really close
to that decision point, it's unlikely there'd be much that
would be done to sway them because nobody, and this
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is important to say from the outset, nobody believes that
the US should put troops in Ukraine to fight on
behalf of this country. And if you're wondering how clear
that is, the Russian incursion that we're preparing for here
would be an escalation, really clay of a war that's
already been going on for about about five six years now,
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maybe even longer than that. This goes all the way
back to the Obama years, when the Dawn Boss region
of each in Ukraine was essentially a pseudo separatist region.
It was really Russian paramilitaries out of uniform who were saying,
we are now forming the independent, you know, Republic of
Dunbass or whatever it was. And so that this has
been going on for a while. You've had Ukrainian soldiers
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in trench, actual trenches, trench warfare on the eastern on
the eastern part of the country where dun Boss is
squaring off against these these Russian back where in many
cases actually just Russian separatists who have come across the border.
So this is a this is going to be a
very serious escalation of that conflict. But that's been going
on already for years. And to your point about the
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question about what will the Biden administration do, putin knows
what the latte drinkers in Brussels and the rest of
the EU will do in response to this, and that's
very very or the Hague really that's very very little.
They'll have conversations about it, they'll be sanctions, but Russia
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is really too big to sanction in a meaningful way.
The guys in charge there are so rich. How are
you going to sanction them? As long as they're selling
oil and natural gas to countries like Germany in on
a huge scale, sanctions aren't going to cripple this country.
So that's why I think you're going to see a
lot of ineffective talk. You're going to see some countries
on the Russian periphery, notably the actual NATO countries that
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we have, right Ukraine is not a NATO country saying hey,
you better put more stops. Yeah yeah, and so we
need more resources, we want us presence or we want
additional help for our military there. But this is gonna
this is gonna be a conflict I think could get
could get really ugly very fast. And now that that's
the general American I would say response. Right now, we
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got out of Afghanistan after the twenty year basically disaster,
and we left and is dispirited and pathetic of a
way as was possible. So if Russia invade Ukraine and
we issue some sort of diplomatic response in conjunction with
other Western democracies, what's a worst case scenario here for
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the United States? If you're projecting out how things could
go awry in a way, that becomes a major negative
because Frankly, most people in the United States don't know
anything about Ukraine. We need to get your buddy on
who was so good from Ukraine? Oh yeah, who's been
living there? Living there for you were gonna have him back?
For sure. He's in Ukraine still. He's been covering this
(25:27):
on the front lines. He was fantastic and trying to
contextualize why it mattered. But from your perspective, what's the
worst case scenario here? Worst case scenario would be that
there's some some consensus that forms in the national security
and international relations circles of our of the current the
Biden regime government, that maybe we do need to put
some US troops. The worst case scenario as you have
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Americans shooting at Russians in any capacity in Ukraine or
over at least this is in my opinion, my estimation,
that's the worst case. I don't think that's going to happen.
I think that's, you know, less than a five percent
chance of actually occurring, very very very remote. But there
is going to be because for all the focus on Ukraine,
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there are other places where there could be this playbook
run again. This happened in South South Ostia and Georgia,
in Georgia and Abkhazia, these breakaway regions again that they're
Russian backed. So what they do is they go and
they find areas of Russian speakers on the Russian periphery
and they foment essentially some kind of revolt or rebellion.
(26:32):
Then the Russians deploy military force and say, we're protecting
our own this is a humanitarian or even peacekeeping mission.
And they call this Maskarovka, which is the Russian warfare
by deception, and they're very good at cyber they're very
good at picking people off and doing this, and they're
trying to expand. The Russians are trying to expand their
(26:53):
defensible perimeter against the threat of NATO, which they still
view very much Clay as a threat. We just say, oh,
NATO's a thing. They say, Nada was a huge military
alliance made to stop us, and we don't want them
on our border. At least this is what this is
Putin's vision and version of events. So I think it's
very very likely that you will see a major incursion there.
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And now you're talking about you know, two developed countries
with you know, advanced economies and technology going toe to toe.
The Ukrainians wouldn't be able to put up much of
a you know, battlefield tank for tank fight if you will.
But if there's some kind of enduring insurgency that could
(27:35):
actually happen, that's where I think you can see things
getting really ugly. And if you want to an approximation
of this, you can just go and see what it
was like back in Czechnia in the nineties when people
were like, oh my gosh, the Chechenia was turned into
a hell hole because of the fighting that was going
on there. So anyway, I don't have a lot of
there's not a lot of happy talk to be had
of it. Yeah, no kidding, we need something a little
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and Buck Sexton Show. Everybody appreciate you being here with us.
We have Glenn Beck coming in at the top of
the hour next so he'll be with us a two
o five Eastern on his book about the Great Reset,
and we're excited to talking about that, especially as you
see the Libs aren't changing their minds about all the
policies for COVID right all of a sudden. The control
(29:26):
that they've enjoyed is something they don't seem to want
to let go of, even though it would mean we
could all breathe more freely, stop worrying or being around
worried people less. And plus we have at the bottom
of the next hour, so that'll be two thirty Eastern
Rona McDaniel, the RNC chairman, talking to us about should
Republicans play the presidential debate game the way they have
(29:47):
in the past, where you have Lib activists from networks
like CNN and ABC and NBC getting to stack the
deck in favor of the Democrats in a variety of ways.
We'll get into all that in a second. Marv in
Southern Ontario, Canada has some thoughts. What's up, Marv, Hi, guys,
Shield High? There we go, Shield High, sir, Thank you
(30:08):
for calling in. Oh, no problem anyway. Um I'm I'm
I'm great fans of both of you, A great fan
of of Rush um Buck. I love it when you
go on gut Field, and I think that if you
and Clay got on Gutfield together, you would tear it up.
I think it would be awesome, that'd be great. Well,
(30:31):
I'm not allowed to go to New York City right
now because oh my gosh, that's right. But that's right. Yeah,
one day, Yeah, I smuggle Clay. I can't enter the
I can't enter the island of Manhattan or New York
City any of the boroughs. But otherwise, yeah, that would
be a lot of fun be a bubble boy. Anyway.
I'm just calling in real quick because I have not
(30:54):
heard any media attention. A very close friend of mine
ended up getting a Fiser vax. Two days later, he's
sitting having breakfast with his wife and his left side
of his face goes numb. Um, his eye starts tearing,
his jaw drops like he's um, you know, just got
(31:16):
out of a dental chair. His wife says, you're having
a stroke. He said, I'm not having a stroke. Um.
He ended up going to er. A neurologist comes in
and says, you've got Bell's palsy. And he said, you've
got Bell's palsy is a side effect of fiser now
(31:41):
I have not heard this on the media, but if
you go online and you look up Bell's palsy, your
first five hits on an internet search are going to
be Fiser's side effects. Nobody's ever said it, thank you,
thank you for it. I haven't heard of that as
(32:02):
a side effect of the by the way, that's me.
That's me not disagreeing or agree. I don't know. I
haven't heard of that before as a side effect. Have
you heard of that before as a side effect for anybody.
I'm gonna be honest, I am not that well informed
on overall side effects from the vaccine because I didn't
get the vaccine, so I didn't worry about your problem.
Effects might be yeah, but we know that the VAERS
(32:27):
database is overflowing with people who claim that they have
had negative side effects from the vaccine, and those are
supposed to be investigated and determined. I will say there
has been a lot of discussion, for instance, in teenage boys,
about the impact of myocarditis. That's one that I have
paid attention because I chose not to get My oldest
(32:51):
son is going to turn fourteen this month, and my
wife and I have made the decision not to get
him vaccinated. Certainly, I'm not getting my eleven year old
or my seven year old vaccinated. But I looked into
the risk for teenage boys in particular. He's not at
risk from COVID from the vaccine. So I looked at that,
(33:12):
and so I would encourage everybody to do their research.
I think the quote the caller's hitting at is a
lot of media don't want to write anything negative about
the vaccines at all. One thing that I will say
I have noticed, and I thought about this because I
flipped on I flipped on Fox this morning. Again. You know,
sometimes you'll see, and this is standard across all these channels,
you'll see an add for any kind of a pharmaceutical, right,
(33:32):
a pharmaceutical that deals with you know, arthritis, whatever it
may be. And you it's always the same thing. Right.
You have people kind of kind of like dancing on
a beach and then like riding horseback, and it's like,
what does this have to do with arthrite? I mean,
I guess you could maybe arthritis actually does. But some
of these drugs, you're like, uh, apparently everyone's just dancing
in fields of grain and there's like sunshine and then
(33:55):
they do the thing. It's like may cause you know, headache, nausea,
a dizziness, painful foot syndrome like leaky got said, you know,
goes with a hundred different things. That's our norm for
all kinds of pharmaceuticals. I mean, even if you look
on a bottle of Thailan all you know, a non
steroidal anti inflammatory drug, they'll be the may cause stomach bleeding. Right,
that's right, there could cause stomach bleeding. I've taken talent
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I don't know how many times in my life, never
had a problem. Interesting that with the vaccines, it's like,
shut up about any side effects. You know, there's something different,
there's something weird about that disparity. Oh and they have
no legal liability for them whatsoever, by the way, and
also just it's the very antithesis of media to be
(34:38):
carrying water, which is what the Biden administration is asking
constantly to protect the people in positions of power and
their stories and not be allowed to challenge them in
any way. And again, I think there's a big difference
between anecdote and data supports, right, and oftentimes what I
(34:58):
think the media gets most wrong is they use whatever
anecdotal story there is right, that twenty five year old
who supposedly was otherwise healthy got COVID and they died.
It ricochets throughout all of social media. Right, it's an outlier.
It doesn't mean it can't happen. It means it's hyper unlikely,
but it doesn't mean that it can't happen. Right. And
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So I think there's a difference between using anecdote to
illustrate incident that is occurring very often an anecdote that
almost never occurs, that is used to try to foment
a particular narrative, and I think the media oftentimes fails
that test. Sylvia in Spokane, Washington, Hey, Sylvia, how you
(35:42):
doing great? Great? Hey? In December? I am Also in January,
I went down to Fort Worth, Texas and back again.
And I'm a redneck redneck, but I'm old and I'm
a little bit feeble. And I was only brave enough
to wear that mask as I came in this book,
Can said, which would have been the second time, and
(36:04):
I said, this mask is useless, as Biden. But I
did get one hug from a stewardess major airline. Other
people looked at me bit the air for aid to
say anything, well, Sylvia, Clay and I are sending atastic story. Yeah,
that's fantastic, great stuff. Thank you, Sylvia. We've got our
(36:26):
buddy Glenn Beck going to be joining us in a moment.
Here's got a book on the Great Reset. What does
all the COVID fauciite madness have to do with the
Great Reset? Glenn is going to lay it all out
for you plus bottom the next hour. It's about thirty
minutes and change from now. Should Republicans take part in
the presidential debates as scheduled or do something else? We'll
(36:47):
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