May 10, 2022 • 37 mins
Senator Marsha Blackburn joins C&B to talk about Roe, NBA hypocrisy, Title 42 -- and keeping kids safe online, about which she published some essential information. Elon says he'll lift the ban, but should Trump go back to Twitter? Sony refuses China's demand to remove Statue of Liberty from Spider-Man. NBA, which moved All-Star game out of North Carolina over transgender bathrooms, to play games in UAE, which punishes homosexuality with death. Clay believes in aliens, Buck more skeptical.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. And here we are in the third
hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. As promised,
We're joined right now by Senator Marsha Blackburne of Tennessee. Senator,
thanks for coming back, appreciate it. It is good to
be with you. Thank you so much. So. I'm sure
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you saw the President Biden's speech on the economy just
a couple of hours ago. Seem like a lot of
blame deflection, some talking points about lowering prices, not clear
on how they would actually achieve that. What wore as
a legislator, as a member of the US Senate, What
were your biggest takeaway? Senator Biden does not want to
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admit that this is his fault, it is his problem.
All you have to do is look at what the
cost were in twenty twenty and compare that to now.
When you look at a carton of eggs, it's up
forty three percent. When you look at coffee, it's up
over one hundred and forty cents for a pound of
coffee beans. When you look at milk, it is up.
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When you look at bread, it is up, and it's
going up even more with the situation in Ukraine. Now,
why did this not happen under President Donald Trump? It
is because we were energy independent. There was a reduction
in regulation. We were holding China to account for how
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they dealt with us on trade and other issues, and
other countries knew they needed to be our friend and
not our adversary. Senator, appreciate you coming on. There's been
a lot of talk about the leaked opinion from Justice Alito.
In the event that that opinion is accurate and Rov
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Wade is overturned and given the power back to the states,
you are in the Senate. Do you think the Senate
should have any roll then, or do you believe it
should just go back to the states and let every
state make their own determination. Play. What we should do
is have the states step forward. This is what conservatives
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have fought for for years, to see Row overturned and
then to see the issue of regulations and restrictions on
abortion go back to the states. Now, are there some
areas where the federal government does have some jurisdiction, of course,
when it comes to report language in budget documents, the
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High Amendment language, the Mexico city policy. Yes, those components
are there, making certain that no tax pay your funds
are expended for abortion. There's also the opportunity to do
a plus up tax credit for expect the moms. Those
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are areas where the federal government will have a say.
But when it comes to the regulations and restrictions, the
federal government and federal legislators need to give the states
the opportunity to exercise the authorities they've been asking for
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and that conservatives have been asking for the states to
have for decades. We're speaking of Senator Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee. Senator,
your colleagues and you, of course, passed a bill to
expand security for Supreme Court justices and for their families,
their ongoing protests, very aggressive ones at the homes of
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these members of the Supreme Court, obviously targeting people based
upon perceived political ideology of these justices. So do you
think that that is sufficient? And what do you think
about the DOJ in enforcing the federal statute that says
that you're not allowed, as a matter of law to
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intimidate judges to try to bring about a different outcome.
The federal statute should be enforced and DJ should move
forward with going out there rounding up these people that
are parading in the streets, of blocking the neighborhoods where
someone who is a federal a Supreme Court justice lives.
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This is against the law. There is a federal statute
that is there eighteen US fifteen oh three. People can
look it up. This prohibits this type of using this
activity in order to influence the outcome of a judicial decision.
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So the step we took is an important step. I
hope is that the House will join in this. It
is something that Senator Cotton and I had supported last year.
We were joined by others on the Republican side of
the aisle to provide the type security that a judge needs.
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You know, we had a federal judge last year, I
think it was about fifteen months ago whose son was
shot when he opened the front door of their home
thinking that he was opening the door to a delivery man,
and it turned out to be someone who was trying
to shoot the judge. Senator I don't know if you've
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seen this news. It just came down a little bit
earlier today, but I know we've had conversations about this
with you before as it pertains to the NBA in China.
But for people out there who have forgotten the NBA
pulled their All Star game out of Charlotte, North Carolina
over a transgender bathroom bill, they now the NBA senator
is going to the UAE, the United Arab Emirates to
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play basketball games in the NBA. The UAE punishes homosexuality
with death in some cases. What do you think about
these woke corporations that lecture America and will tell us
what laws we can and cannot pass here, but then
they'll go overseas to countries where homosexuality is potentially punished
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by death, show up and play and not uphold American
values at all. It's astounding to me to see how
these corporations continue to count out to the Chinese Communist Party,
how they will set aside their beliefs and principles in
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order to chase the dollar. What they're looking at is
what they perceive to be a lucrative market, and in
the interest of profit, they are saying, Okay, we will
go over here and we will play these games because
we think it's going to be a revenue stream for us.
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And look at what has happened in China. They're in
Jinjang where they have their practice academies, and they have
their facilities, and they have a Nike merchandise licensed, NBA
licensed merchandise being made by slave labor. And they say
absolutely nothing about any of that other than the Chinese
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people like basketball. And now you see them moving forward,
as you said, a new market, a new opportunity for
them to make more money. So again they set aside
their beliefs, and they have one set of standards in
the US, they have another set of standards globally. Instead
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of saying, we are the NBA from the United States
of America and we're going to stand against these human
rights violations, we're going to stand against slavery, which is
what they should do. They should be ambassadors for truth
and for freedom and for consistency and for pursuing your dreams.
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And that is not what they choose to do because
they're chasing the profit. Senator Blackburn. In just a couple
of weeks time, Title forty two was set to end
at the US Mexico Board of the CDC authority that
had been used to turn away pretty large percentage of
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illegal migrants over the course the pandemic. A federal judge
had temporarily blocked it, but it seems it's just a
matter of time before it is removed. The Title forty
two authority is gone, and then everyone expects a massive
surge of illegal crossings at the border. Can you just
tell us what are the expectations of people like you
in the Senate and what's going to happen once that
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Once that expires, you're going to see a rush to
the border. Now, the estimate is that we will go
from six thousand illegal crossings a day to eighteen thousand
illegal crossings a day. This is something that has the
potential to completely overrun our border patrol. What we are
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aware of is that the cartels, having been given a
six month six week lead time that this was going
to happen. The cartels are working globally. They are lining
up people from across the globe. Indeed, last year we
had people from one hundred and sixty different countries that
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showed up at our border to seek asylum. So the
cartels are working globally. They are in the process of
moving vast number some people to the southern border. Then
they're going to begin to move them to the border
crossings and push them into US control. Our concern is
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for the safety it's that border. Now. I want you
to think about this. When I saw this eighteen thousand number,
I thought, my goodness, how does this relate to my
state of Tennessee. While in the state of Tennessee we
have three hundred and forty five cities in towns. Out
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of that number, ninety percent ninety percent are eighteen thousand
or less in population. I looked up the number when
it comes to Illinois also. There it was about ninety
percent were eighteen thousand or less. So you can say
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you've got a typical Tennessee the population equivalent of a
typical Tennessee town, or the equivalent of a typical Illinois
town or any other state. I've pulled it for just
about every state, and that is going to be coming
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to our southern border for an asylum claim every single day.
So the question is how long can our border patrols
sustain this? Senator, last question for you. I know you're
working on protecting kids online. We have seen, certainly in
the wake of COVID, the overall mental health of children
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taking a precipitous decline that has been occurring really for
the basically, the rise of social media in general has
not been healthy to our overall teenagers mental health. What
are you trying to do to help protect them? Yeah?
So what? I of course I've got legislation. I have
the Open App Market Bill that's ready to be marked
up on the Senate or the Kids Online Safety Act
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that is ready to go through at Senate Commerce Committee.
In addition to that, we have pulled together a parents
guide for a way they can increase the protections for
their children online. Clay, one of the things that we
were hearing a good bit about from parents and grandparents
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was their concern of what children are being exposed to
when they are online, with it being pedophiles and drug
dealers and some of the harms that are coming from
bullying online. Summer is coming up, we were getting more
questions from individuals on this issue, so my team and
I pulled together a guide and people can get it
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from us on social media on our website. This is
to help parents and grandparents, caregivers of kids to know
how to help those children take that phone, set those
privacy guidelines and be able to more effectively monitor what
children are being exposed to when they get online. Senator
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Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee, everybody, Senator appreciate you. Thanks so much,
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is that I would reverse the oban os. I don't
own Twitter yet, so this is not like a thing
that will definitely happen, because what if I don't own Twitter.
But my opinion, and us want to be clear as shares,
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this opinion is that should not have to events. That's
Elon from earlier today. Welcome back to clay An Buck
saying that he will reverse the trump band if he
owns ends up owning Twitter. Remember that is in process.
It's not like he's walking in to buy a new lawnmower,
you know, swipes the credit card and it's all it's
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all done. There's a big process here. There's always the
possibility of some federal government regulator trying to step in.
Some on the left have even called for that. Elizabeth
Warren walking around saying we have to regulate the social
media companies, and all of a sudden, we have to
regulate them, Clay, It's it's almost it's almost like when
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they don't have whatever they want, then the rules have
to change. Yeah, and we were debating that. I mean,
that's Elon Musk by the way, in London in the
last hour or so, discussing the potential return of Trump
to Twitter. I don't know. Again, I think this is
a huge debate that could play out for some time.
And I just put up, by the way, this is
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a pole question if you want to go vote at
Clay Travis. Is Trump coming back to Twitter good or
bad for a potential twenty twenty four presidential campaign? My
inclination is kind of like yours, Buck, that it would
overall be bad. And by the way, let me say this,
A thousand people have voted in the last couple of
minutes you can go vote yourself. It's nearly dead, even
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fifty fifty. There are a lot of Trump supporters out
there on my Twitter feed. It's not like these are
huge Hillary Clinton people rolling. This is a tough call.
This is one where I you know, there's some things
meant a lot of things where I'm like, I'm right,
and anybody disagrees with me. As rock it's probably ninety percent,
maybe ninety seven percent of things. This is one where
I because you're not married, by the way, that percentage dramatically,
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That's what I've been told. Yeah, yes, something looks forward
to UM. But this is one where I'm persuadable either way.
I mean, I think you can make a strong case
that Trump galvanizes the movement, reaches around the goes around
the mainstream media, and is able to UM, you know,
bring his message record to the people, and that's really
port important powerful. But then there's also you know, hashtag
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co fefe and and people kind of getting distracted by
some of the random things that Trump would would go
off on tangents about UM and so you know, I
don't know. I mean, it's great for us if he
has the Twitter, but is it best for the party,
for the country, for the for the American people, if
he has Twitter back, I don't know. And then there's
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also the possible contractual issues that come up as a
result of truth social I don't know what those are,
but there they could be there. I can't imagine that
they gave him hundreds of millions of dollars potentially in
equity in that company without restricting him contractually to being
able to go back to Twitter. By the way, you know,
Biden says that Republicans want to raise taxes, you want
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buck Sexton. We were just talking about Trump. We played
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the clip of you for you guys of Elon must
saying he would end the band, and almost ten thousand
people have voted and it's fifty five forty five on
whether it's good or bad for Trump in twenty twenty four.
To be back on Twitter, Joe Biden obviously has been
talking about inflation. And there was a report buck not
only that Joe Biden couldn't see the teleprompter because it
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was not it wouldn't fit in in the White House
in the Oval office. But there are reports in Politico
that Biden is wanting to run against Trump, and Trump
is wanting to run against Biden, but neither guy wants
to be the first to officially announced that he's going
to run again. What do you think the chances are
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that we get Trump Biden Part two? If you were
betting right now on trying to set the odds here
of a rematch in the presidential election, which doesn't happen
very often, right a direct rematch of the prior election,
you optimistic or pessimistic? And maybe the answer is both
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about the idea of Biden versus Trump. I think it's
I think it's a fifty fifty shot right now that
you have both Biden, these two things have to happen,
right Biden has to run again, which I think is
better than fifty fifty, and then that it's Trump again.
Would be, in my mind also better than fifty five.
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I mean, look, my math is not adding up here.
That's not the point. I'm doing math in real time.
I think. I think you're looking at fifty fifty that
both Biden chooses to run and Trump is the nominee
and runs against him. I think it's a fifty fifty
shot that both of those things happen. All right, I
want to hit you with this too, because I'm curious.
What you're read is, as as we've said before, not
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a big time sports fan. So this woke politics era
that we're in where you have Disney, for instance, lecturing
the American public, but they'll do whatever China wants basically,
and let me give you, by the way, a shout
out a positive thing here. Do you see a story?
Sony refused to take the Statue of Liberty out of
the New Spider Man movie, and as a result, Sony,
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which is Japanese company and has no love loss for China,
as a result, they wouldn't allow the New Spider Man
movie to be released in China. But Sony stood up
more for America. I think, is that not true? I've
heard and this I don't know. This is just based
on what I've been reading, but that it actually would
have been super expensive to do that. So you're not
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giving them the benefit of the doubt here. I've seen
the most recents by rose See, I don't know how
much is the Statue of Liberty really in it. It's
in it a decent amount. So then it does make
me think that cost may have been because, you know,
doing the pixelation or whatever they do to remove I
don't work for Pixar. I don't know how this stuff goes,
but doing the things that they would do to remove it,
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I think there's an expense. Look, maybe it was a
combination of factors. I also do think they realize if
you remove the Statue of Liberty from a movie and
the American people find out about it, you're an American company,
You're going to get heat. I do think I do
think that there's a little bit of a change in
perception in corporate America about that now. I think the
Disney lessons, I think, you know, sometimes you gotta sometimes
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you throw one punch in the schoolyard and all of
a sudden, all the bullies go, oh, that that doesn't
look much fun. But also clay On the hypocrisy point. Yes,
it is hypocrisy when lib companies or the directors the
CEOs of powerful media companies in America, or in this
case sports, right when they in the case of playing
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the whether they're playing in the UAE. Right, yeah, YEA
which pulled its All Star game out of Charlotte over
a transgender bathroom bill, is now going to play games
in the UAE, which punishes at times homosexuality with death.
The reality of why this keeps happening. First of all,
hypocrisy doesn't bother liberals right, because part of part of
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their mentality is we do what we want to do
when we want to do it, and so if we
change our mind because we prefer this outcome, we don't
pretend to the meeting. The leftist mindset is, we don't
pretend to have consistent standards really, But if you want
to even get beyond that, they want to that they
take action domestically in favor of wokeness because that's what
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gets their preferred constituency fired up. The left wing, the
left wing Biden voters who see this stuff and say
to themselves, yeah, that's right. Show the state of North
Carolina what's going on. They don't care about what happens
in China. They don't care about human rights in China.
It's all just virtue signaling. To them. It doesn't really matter.
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So that's why it's not surprising, Still still worthwhile for
us to point out the hypocrisy. But when you understand
the most ovation of companies taking that action to punish
let's say North Carolina over the bathroom bill, the NBA
doing that is not because they really fundamentally care about
human rights. It's because they want people who are left
of center to think well of them, and they don't.
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It doesn't have the same calculation for what's going on
in China every day. It's not really about human rights.
It's about virtue signaling. Yeah, I think that's right. And this,
to me is the lesson that comes from that. When
you throw a punch like De Santis throw a punch
at Disney and it lands squarely on their chin, and
suddenly at your analogy of the bully and the fight
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in the schoolyard, I think makes sense. Suddenly you realize
that you have to be conscious that that punch may
be coming. I think the NBA has been knocked down
a couple of times over this hypocrisy and going to
the UAE. If the NBA would just come out and say, hey,
you know what, we're a for profit company and we're
trying to make as much money as we possibly can,
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I would say, okay, right, But when you lecture us domestically,
I think there's a huge segment of the population that
sees stories like these, and the NBA is leaving its
chin open and they are taking some massive punches, and
so I just I think it does register with that
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twenty percent persuadable middle. But they're taking those punches because
people like me refuse to watch the NBA anymore. Yeah,
that's a part of this is that conservatives have finally
said and it's even more of just a content consumption decision.
I think then, one that you think of as overtly political.
I just get so. I'm not saying I'm a part
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of a boycott or I was a huge NBA watcher
for a long time ago. I did actually grow up
watching NBA games pretty pretty regularly, but I just they
just annoyed me too much after a while, with this stuff,
with with the nonsense, with the standing in the middle
of the court, with the hoodies up and the and
all you know and all the social justice stuff, and
then of course the same thing at some level with
the NFL. The reason that this has changed, the reason
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the calculation has changed, is that a lot of people,
including people listen to this show, said I'm just not
going to support them anymore. And so now that doesn't
mean you can never support them, but it does mean
that they have to feel you know, it's the same thing. Right,
you can cut your Disney Plus subscription. And if Disney
puts out a statement in six months or a year
or changes its behavior in a way that shows that
they take the concerns of parents who don't want this
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indoctrination stuff seriously, well then yeah, go to Disney, right,
go to Disney World. I mean, I know you just
got back from Disney World, but I'm saying, you know,
there has to be some trips scheduled. But yeah, but
you know what I mean. I'm saying, there has to
be some cause and effect rights. It's meant to bring
about a certain outcome, and we actually want Disney to
be a company that's making great stuff for kids and
allowing kids to have a lot of fun. But that
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means that the right has to have their voices heard too,
that's all. It can't just be that the left boycotts,
the left mobilizes, they get their way with all this stuff.
And I think it's been true in sports, it's now
true and really all aspects of entertainment, media, it's all
over the place. There have to be consequences. I don't
think there's any doubt. Biden got asked, by the way,
let's play this when we come back, because I think
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then there is this Clay, I was not expecting to
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that Congress is going to hold their first open hearing
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on UFOs in fifty years. Two Pentagon officials are going
to be testifying at that hearing next week. There have
been in recent years more and more people who have
been coming forward to say, look, I don't want to
sound crazy, all right, I'm not trying to say there's
little greed men about to overthrow the governments of countries
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all over the world, etc. But there is some weird
stuff that at least deserves some explanation. Here is this funny.
I have no idea where you you know, are are
you Scully or Molder? You know? Where do you fall
on the that's for those of course, that's a reference
to the X Files, which I didn't see that much
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of. I I saw some of. Are you a believer or
a skeptic when it comes to UFO's clay, I'm a believer.
I just I think every generation thinks that they know everything,
doesn't matter what the subject is. If you went back
and read in the seventeen hundreds, people are like, this
era is the most brilliant ever. And it's always true
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because you're advancing in terms of the knowledge of society
as a whole. So I think that there's tons of
things we don't know about the larger universe, and I
believe that there are there is likely intelligent life somewhere
else in the cosmos, And so I believe in UFOs.
I think that not only is intelligent life exists, I
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think that they've probably visited our planet at some point
in time. What about you the best, I'm a little
more skeptical, a little more skeptical. I don't know. I'm
not buying it. I feel like, first of all, it's
always why is it always so shady? Like, shouldn't at
some point, should't we just have found some flying saucers.
I think they're probably so way smarter than us. You
think they're way smarter than us. I mean, they're way
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smarter than me. If they're coming to our planet, then
we can't figure out how to get to their planet
or their location wherever it might be. So yeah, I
believe in alien life somewhere in the cosmos, and I
think it's visited here. The greatest alien visits Earth movie
is I guess there's probably an obvious answer, but we
haven't really You know, this is a good question. You know,
(31:30):
there's a recent one that I can't even remember. I
think I have like Jodie Foster as a contact. I
think it's called Is that right? I think it's I
think that might be it. I thought that was pretty good. Yeah, um,
I would I would have thought you would have gone
ET given you guys. Oh well, I haven't watched ET
with the boys. I haven't seen ET and probably kids
now because it's a sad ending. See this is where
Uncle Buck comes through big or No, it's too saying
(31:52):
unhealthy delicious. You don't have to worry about the tears.
I don't want to watch super sad movie movies like
ET has got a pretty sad component, know what you know? Which,
speaking of UFOs of you know what? Really what really
busted me up back in the day. I don't know
if he saw this one. This is about Sasquatch obviously,
uh or the squatch to those who I believe who
(32:14):
were believers, Harry and one that one was rough. That
was like Old Yeller for me at the end, man,
I was I was bustled up by Harry and the
Henderson's like he was a nice Sasquatch, he was a
good sas Do you know what book broke me? Uh?
Back when I was a young kid, did you ever
read Where the Red Fern Grows. I kind of vaguely
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remember it, but not really. Well, there were two dogs
hunting dogs, and it's even worse than Old Yeller. Uh.
And I know there's people out there right now who
are like, oh, thanks for bringing up Where the Red
Fern Goes. I just remember being utterly crushed spoiler alert
by what happens at the end of Where the Red
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Fern Grows. So I don't even know that I would
let my kids read that book. It's like Old Yeller,
except twice as bad. Yeah, so there's some very good
There was a period I think it like mid late nineties,
UFOs became a particular fixation, right, it became something. There
was that movie Fire in the Sky, which was about
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alien Remember that was the premise abduction, right, Yeah, the
premise for a while was the alien abduction thing. Yes,
where they'd grabbed some guy and of course after he'd
run into the town he be having flashbacks. He's like,
I swear the aliens all grabby and everyone's like you're crazy,
and then yeah, right, you know that that was the
thing for a while. Um, but you know, the UFO hearing,
I've I've seen some stuff on this that does require
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There's been some you know, little lights flicking flickering around
the screen, and you know, there's been some stuff that
people in the military have seen and you can't explain,
and they can't explain. So I'm I'm all in favor
of like, let's keep it real, let's keep it rational, right,
But if they can't explain it, well, then we should
at least be open to the possibility that there are
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explanations we either have not considered thoroughly enough or that
we generally dismissed out of hand because we don't want
to deal with the possible reality. I look, this is
the first hearing since what like nineteen sixty eight. I
think Gerald forty year he was still a congressman, was
the last person to hold hearings in Congress on UFOs.
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And by the way, this was how crazy twenty twenty was.
They had a story like in the New York Times
where they're like, hey, we think UFOs are real, and
it was buried on like the eighteenth page because there
was so much chaos going on, people didn't even really
care that much about the fact that might be real.
I feel like people also play those games with this,
I'm sure. By the way, I remember once I made
some passing reference to wiccans and witches years ago radio
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and members of the Wicked community reached out and they're like,
we know you were just kidding, but we're out here,
we're real and we actually have you know, thoughts, feelings, hopes,
design like they actually I'm not I'm just trying to
say I'm not trying to offend the UFO community here,
but I do think which right now now, this is
going to be bad, but I think we need to
separate out unidentified flying object from uh intelligent other being.
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You know what I'm saying, like me, there may be
some physiological explanation for why this little thing is flying
around that's not green spacemen and flying saucer is kind
of so just a UFO is a very broad term,
That's all I'm saying. They, by the way, I don't
I don't even know that we can trust the government
on anything. They're claiming that they don't have the technology
(35:29):
to replicate what these UFOs are doing, while there are
fighter pilots out there in the air flying around and
seeing these, so they are claiming that this is, uh,
this isn't impossible for them to otherwise replicate The arrival,
by the way, is I think what I might have
been talking about the recent movie. I'm wrong. It's not Contact.
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Contact was one. It's not that recent. I think that's
like twenty years old. I think the arrivals about where
there's just a spaceship that shows up and they're trying
to give us a message and we have to figure
you're out what that message is. It's really well done.
U and Jodie Foster may not be in that one.
I can't remember who. I tried to watch The Martian
I fell asleep. I gotta tell you, I not met
Damon's best. He wasn't setting us his best on that one.
(36:13):
But some of these other ones, I'm telling you the
X Files, it's a good watch from the original X Files,
a good watch from Back in the Dames. No, it's fantastic.
And the movies were good too that they made. Uh
that was um the Fox Molder and and and the
girl Jillian andrews Man. She was hot. Well, day, I'll
tell the story of years ago when I was making
fun of some aspects of a Sasquatch movie and it
(36:37):
turned out that one of the actors who started the
movie was listened to my show and called in and
called in that was That's phenomenal. Yeah, that's movie. That
was a pretty good one. Actually, Kimmer was called but
primal Fear I think something like that. Believe those are
not sleet Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. And here we are in the third
hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. As promised,
We're joined right now by Senator Marsha Blackburne of Tennessee. Senator,
thanks for coming back, appreciate it. It is good to
be with you. Thank you so much. So. I'm sure
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you saw the President Biden's speech on the economy just
a couple of hours ago. Seem like a lot of
blame deflection, some talking points about lowering prices, not clear
on how they would actually achieve that. What wore as
a legislator, as a member of the US Senate, What
were your biggest takeaway? Senator Biden does not want to
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admit that this is his fault, it is his problem.
All you have to do is look at what the
cost were in twenty twenty and compare that to now.
When you look at a carton of eggs, it's up
forty three percent. When you look at coffee, it's up
over one hundred and forty cents for a pound of
coffee beans. When you look at milk, it is up.
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When you look at bread, it is up, and it's
going up even more with the situation in Ukraine. Now,
why did this not happen under President Donald Trump? It
is because we were energy independent. There was a reduction
in regulation. We were holding China to account for how
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they dealt with us on trade and other issues, and
other countries knew they needed to be our friend and
not our adversary. Senator, appreciate you coming on. There's been
a lot of talk about the leaked opinion from Justice Alito.
In the event that that opinion is accurate and Rov
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Wade is overturned and given the power back to the states,
you are in the Senate. Do you think the Senate
should have any roll then, or do you believe it
should just go back to the states and let every
state make their own determination. Play. What we should do
is have the states step forward. This is what conservatives
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have fought for for years, to see Row overturned and
then to see the issue of regulations and restrictions on
abortion go back to the states. Now, are there some
areas where the federal government does have some jurisdiction, of course,
when it comes to report language in budget documents, the
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High Amendment language, the Mexico city policy. Yes, those components
are there, making certain that no tax pay your funds
are expended for abortion. There's also the opportunity to do
a plus up tax credit for expect the moms. Those
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are areas where the federal government will have a say.
But when it comes to the regulations and restrictions, the
federal government and federal legislators need to give the states
the opportunity to exercise the authorities they've been asking for
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and that conservatives have been asking for the states to
have for decades. We're speaking of Senator Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee. Senator,
your colleagues and you, of course, passed a bill to
expand security for Supreme Court justices and for their families,
their ongoing protests, very aggressive ones at the homes of
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these members of the Supreme Court, obviously targeting people based
upon perceived political ideology of these justices. So do you
think that that is sufficient? And what do you think
about the DOJ in enforcing the federal statute that says
that you're not allowed, as a matter of law to
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intimidate judges to try to bring about a different outcome.
The federal statute should be enforced and DJ should move
forward with going out there rounding up these people that
are parading in the streets, of blocking the neighborhoods where
someone who is a federal a Supreme Court justice lives.
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This is against the law. There is a federal statute
that is there eighteen US fifteen oh three. People can
look it up. This prohibits this type of using this
activity in order to influence the outcome of a judicial decision.
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So the step we took is an important step. I
hope is that the House will join in this. It
is something that Senator Cotton and I had supported last year.
We were joined by others on the Republican side of
the aisle to provide the type security that a judge needs.
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You know, we had a federal judge last year, I
think it was about fifteen months ago whose son was
shot when he opened the front door of their home
thinking that he was opening the door to a delivery man,
and it turned out to be someone who was trying
to shoot the judge. Senator I don't know if you've
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seen this news. It just came down a little bit
earlier today, but I know we've had conversations about this
with you before as it pertains to the NBA in China.
But for people out there who have forgotten the NBA
pulled their All Star game out of Charlotte, North Carolina
over a transgender bathroom bill, they now the NBA senator
is going to the UAE, the United Arab Emirates to
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play basketball games in the NBA. The UAE punishes homosexuality
with death in some cases. What do you think about
these woke corporations that lecture America and will tell us
what laws we can and cannot pass here, but then
they'll go overseas to countries where homosexuality is potentially punished
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by death, show up and play and not uphold American
values at all. It's astounding to me to see how
these corporations continue to count out to the Chinese Communist Party,
how they will set aside their beliefs and principles in
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order to chase the dollar. What they're looking at is
what they perceive to be a lucrative market, and in
the interest of profit, they are saying, Okay, we will
go over here and we will play these games because
we think it's going to be a revenue stream for us.
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And look at what has happened in China. They're in
Jinjang where they have their practice academies, and they have
their facilities, and they have a Nike merchandise licensed, NBA
licensed merchandise being made by slave labor. And they say
absolutely nothing about any of that other than the Chinese
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people like basketball. And now you see them moving forward,
as you said, a new market, a new opportunity for
them to make more money. So again they set aside
their beliefs, and they have one set of standards in
the US, they have another set of standards globally. Instead
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of saying, we are the NBA from the United States
of America and we're going to stand against these human
rights violations, we're going to stand against slavery, which is
what they should do. They should be ambassadors for truth
and for freedom and for consistency and for pursuing your dreams.
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And that is not what they choose to do because
they're chasing the profit. Senator Blackburn. In just a couple
of weeks time, Title forty two was set to end
at the US Mexico Board of the CDC authority that
had been used to turn away pretty large percentage of
(08:36):
illegal migrants over the course the pandemic. A federal judge
had temporarily blocked it, but it seems it's just a
matter of time before it is removed. The Title forty
two authority is gone, and then everyone expects a massive
surge of illegal crossings at the border. Can you just
tell us what are the expectations of people like you
in the Senate and what's going to happen once that
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Once that expires, you're going to see a rush to
the border. Now, the estimate is that we will go
from six thousand illegal crossings a day to eighteen thousand
illegal crossings a day. This is something that has the
potential to completely overrun our border patrol. What we are
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aware of is that the cartels, having been given a
six month six week lead time that this was going
to happen. The cartels are working globally. They are lining
up people from across the globe. Indeed, last year we
had people from one hundred and sixty different countries that
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showed up at our border to seek asylum. So the
cartels are working globally. They are in the process of
moving vast number some people to the southern border. Then
they're going to begin to move them to the border
crossings and push them into US control. Our concern is
(10:13):
for the safety it's that border. Now. I want you
to think about this. When I saw this eighteen thousand number,
I thought, my goodness, how does this relate to my
state of Tennessee. While in the state of Tennessee we
have three hundred and forty five cities in towns. Out
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of that number, ninety percent ninety percent are eighteen thousand
or less in population. I looked up the number when
it comes to Illinois also. There it was about ninety
percent were eighteen thousand or less. So you can say
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you've got a typical Tennessee the population equivalent of a
typical Tennessee town, or the equivalent of a typical Illinois
town or any other state. I've pulled it for just
about every state, and that is going to be coming
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to our southern border for an asylum claim every single day.
So the question is how long can our border patrols
sustain this? Senator, last question for you. I know you're
working on protecting kids online. We have seen, certainly in
the wake of COVID, the overall mental health of children
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taking a precipitous decline that has been occurring really for
the basically, the rise of social media in general has
not been healthy to our overall teenagers mental health. What
are you trying to do to help protect them? Yeah?
So what? I of course I've got legislation. I have
the Open App Market Bill that's ready to be marked
up on the Senate or the Kids Online Safety Act
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that is ready to go through at Senate Commerce Committee.
In addition to that, we have pulled together a parents
guide for a way they can increase the protections for
their children online. Clay, one of the things that we
were hearing a good bit about from parents and grandparents
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was their concern of what children are being exposed to
when they are online, with it being pedophiles and drug
dealers and some of the harms that are coming from
bullying online. Summer is coming up, we were getting more
questions from individuals on this issue, so my team and
I pulled together a guide and people can get it
(12:47):
from us on social media on our website. This is
to help parents and grandparents, caregivers of kids to know
how to help those children take that phone, set those
privacy guidelines and be able to more effectively monitor what
children are being exposed to when they get online. Senator
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Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee, everybody, Senator appreciate you. Thanks so much,
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is that I would reverse the oban os. I don't
own Twitter yet, so this is not like a thing
that will definitely happen, because what if I don't own Twitter.
But my opinion, and us want to be clear as shares,
(15:01):
this opinion is that should not have to events. That's
Elon from earlier today. Welcome back to clay An Buck
saying that he will reverse the trump band if he
owns ends up owning Twitter. Remember that is in process.
It's not like he's walking in to buy a new lawnmower,
you know, swipes the credit card and it's all it's
(15:22):
all done. There's a big process here. There's always the
possibility of some federal government regulator trying to step in.
Some on the left have even called for that. Elizabeth
Warren walking around saying we have to regulate the social
media companies, and all of a sudden, we have to
regulate them, Clay, It's it's almost it's almost like when
(15:42):
they don't have whatever they want, then the rules have
to change. Yeah, and we were debating that. I mean,
that's Elon Musk by the way, in London in the
last hour or so, discussing the potential return of Trump
to Twitter. I don't know. Again, I think this is
a huge debate that could play out for some time.
And I just put up, by the way, this is
(16:02):
a pole question if you want to go vote at
Clay Travis. Is Trump coming back to Twitter good or
bad for a potential twenty twenty four presidential campaign? My
inclination is kind of like yours, Buck, that it would
overall be bad. And by the way, let me say this,
A thousand people have voted in the last couple of
minutes you can go vote yourself. It's nearly dead, even
(16:26):
fifty fifty. There are a lot of Trump supporters out
there on my Twitter feed. It's not like these are
huge Hillary Clinton people rolling. This is a tough call.
This is one where I you know, there's some things
meant a lot of things where I'm like, I'm right,
and anybody disagrees with me. As rock it's probably ninety percent,
maybe ninety seven percent of things. This is one where
I because you're not married, by the way, that percentage dramatically,
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That's what I've been told. Yeah, yes, something looks forward
to UM. But this is one where I'm persuadable either way.
I mean, I think you can make a strong case
that Trump galvanizes the movement, reaches around the goes around
the mainstream media, and is able to UM, you know,
bring his message record to the people, and that's really
port important powerful. But then there's also you know, hashtag
(17:10):
co fefe and and people kind of getting distracted by
some of the random things that Trump would would go
off on tangents about UM and so you know, I
don't know. I mean, it's great for us if he
has the Twitter, but is it best for the party,
for the country, for the for the American people, if
he has Twitter back, I don't know. And then there's
(17:30):
also the possible contractual issues that come up as a
result of truth social I don't know what those are,
but there they could be there. I can't imagine that
they gave him hundreds of millions of dollars potentially in
equity in that company without restricting him contractually to being
able to go back to Twitter. By the way, you know,
Biden says that Republicans want to raise taxes, you want
(17:51):
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dot Com. Welcome back in Klay Travis buck Sexton Show.
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buck Sexton. We were just talking about Trump. We played
(19:17):
the clip of you for you guys of Elon must
saying he would end the band, and almost ten thousand
people have voted and it's fifty five forty five on
whether it's good or bad for Trump in twenty twenty four.
To be back on Twitter, Joe Biden obviously has been
talking about inflation. And there was a report buck not
only that Joe Biden couldn't see the teleprompter because it
(19:38):
was not it wouldn't fit in in the White House
in the Oval office. But there are reports in Politico
that Biden is wanting to run against Trump, and Trump
is wanting to run against Biden, but neither guy wants
to be the first to officially announced that he's going
to run again. What do you think the chances are
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that we get Trump Biden Part two? If you were
betting right now on trying to set the odds here
of a rematch in the presidential election, which doesn't happen
very often, right a direct rematch of the prior election,
you optimistic or pessimistic? And maybe the answer is both
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about the idea of Biden versus Trump. I think it's
I think it's a fifty fifty shot right now that
you have both Biden, these two things have to happen,
right Biden has to run again, which I think is
better than fifty fifty, and then that it's Trump again.
Would be, in my mind also better than fifty five.
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I mean, look, my math is not adding up here.
That's not the point. I'm doing math in real time.
I think. I think you're looking at fifty fifty that
both Biden chooses to run and Trump is the nominee
and runs against him. I think it's a fifty fifty
shot that both of those things happen. All right, I
want to hit you with this too, because I'm curious.
What you're read is, as as we've said before, not
(21:04):
a big time sports fan. So this woke politics era
that we're in where you have Disney, for instance, lecturing
the American public, but they'll do whatever China wants basically,
and let me give you, by the way, a shout
out a positive thing here. Do you see a story?
Sony refused to take the Statue of Liberty out of
the New Spider Man movie, and as a result, Sony,
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which is Japanese company and has no love loss for China,
as a result, they wouldn't allow the New Spider Man
movie to be released in China. But Sony stood up
more for America. I think, is that not true? I've
heard and this I don't know. This is just based
on what I've been reading, but that it actually would
have been super expensive to do that. So you're not
(21:46):
giving them the benefit of the doubt here. I've seen
the most recents by rose See, I don't know how
much is the Statue of Liberty really in it. It's
in it a decent amount. So then it does make
me think that cost may have been because, you know,
doing the pixelation or whatever they do to remove I
don't work for Pixar. I don't know how this stuff goes,
but doing the things that they would do to remove it,
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I think there's an expense. Look, maybe it was a
combination of factors. I also do think they realize if
you remove the Statue of Liberty from a movie and
the American people find out about it, you're an American company,
You're going to get heat. I do think I do
think that there's a little bit of a change in
perception in corporate America about that now. I think the
Disney lessons, I think, you know, sometimes you gotta sometimes
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you throw one punch in the schoolyard and all of
a sudden, all the bullies go, oh, that that doesn't
look much fun. But also clay On the hypocrisy point. Yes,
it is hypocrisy when lib companies or the directors the
CEOs of powerful media companies in America, or in this
case sports, right when they in the case of playing
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the whether they're playing in the UAE. Right, yeah, YEA
which pulled its All Star game out of Charlotte over
a transgender bathroom bill, is now going to play games
in the UAE, which punishes at times homosexuality with death.
The reality of why this keeps happening. First of all,
hypocrisy doesn't bother liberals right, because part of part of
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their mentality is we do what we want to do
when we want to do it, and so if we
change our mind because we prefer this outcome, we don't
pretend to the meeting. The leftist mindset is, we don't
pretend to have consistent standards really, But if you want
to even get beyond that, they want to that they
take action domestically in favor of wokeness because that's what
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gets their preferred constituency fired up. The left wing, the
left wing Biden voters who see this stuff and say
to themselves, yeah, that's right. Show the state of North
Carolina what's going on. They don't care about what happens
in China. They don't care about human rights in China.
It's all just virtue signaling. To them. It doesn't really matter.
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So that's why it's not surprising, Still still worthwhile for
us to point out the hypocrisy. But when you understand
the most ovation of companies taking that action to punish
let's say North Carolina over the bathroom bill, the NBA
doing that is not because they really fundamentally care about
human rights. It's because they want people who are left
of center to think well of them, and they don't.
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It doesn't have the same calculation for what's going on
in China every day. It's not really about human rights.
It's about virtue signaling. Yeah, I think that's right. And this,
to me is the lesson that comes from that. When
you throw a punch like De Santis throw a punch
at Disney and it lands squarely on their chin, and
suddenly at your analogy of the bully and the fight
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in the schoolyard, I think makes sense. Suddenly you realize
that you have to be conscious that that punch may
be coming. I think the NBA has been knocked down
a couple of times over this hypocrisy and going to
the UAE. If the NBA would just come out and say, hey,
you know what, we're a for profit company and we're
trying to make as much money as we possibly can,
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I would say, okay, right, But when you lecture us domestically,
I think there's a huge segment of the population that
sees stories like these, and the NBA is leaving its
chin open and they are taking some massive punches, and
so I just I think it does register with that
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twenty percent persuadable middle. But they're taking those punches because
people like me refuse to watch the NBA anymore. Yeah,
that's a part of this is that conservatives have finally
said and it's even more of just a content consumption decision.
I think then, one that you think of as overtly political.
I just get so. I'm not saying I'm a part
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of a boycott or I was a huge NBA watcher
for a long time ago. I did actually grow up
watching NBA games pretty pretty regularly, but I just they
just annoyed me too much after a while, with this stuff,
with with the nonsense, with the standing in the middle
of the court, with the hoodies up and the and
all you know and all the social justice stuff, and
then of course the same thing at some level with
the NFL. The reason that this has changed, the reason
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the calculation has changed, is that a lot of people,
including people listen to this show, said I'm just not
going to support them anymore. And so now that doesn't
mean you can never support them, but it does mean
that they have to feel you know, it's the same thing. Right,
you can cut your Disney Plus subscription. And if Disney
puts out a statement in six months or a year
or changes its behavior in a way that shows that
they take the concerns of parents who don't want this
(26:22):
indoctrination stuff seriously, well then yeah, go to Disney, right,
go to Disney World. I mean, I know you just
got back from Disney World, but I'm saying, you know,
there has to be some trips scheduled. But yeah, but
you know what I mean. I'm saying, there has to
be some cause and effect rights. It's meant to bring
about a certain outcome, and we actually want Disney to
be a company that's making great stuff for kids and
allowing kids to have a lot of fun. But that
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means that the right has to have their voices heard too,
that's all. It can't just be that the left boycotts,
the left mobilizes, they get their way with all this stuff.
And I think it's been true in sports, it's now
true and really all aspects of entertainment, media, it's all
over the place. There have to be consequences. I don't
think there's any doubt. Biden got asked, by the way,
let's play this when we come back, because I think
people are going to enjoy it. Senator Rick Scott of Florida,
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then there is this Clay, I was not expecting to
talk about this on the show, but it turns out
that Congress is going to hold their first open hearing
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on UFOs in fifty years. Two Pentagon officials are going
to be testifying at that hearing next week. There have
been in recent years more and more people who have
been coming forward to say, look, I don't want to
sound crazy, all right, I'm not trying to say there's
little greed men about to overthrow the governments of countries
(29:43):
all over the world, etc. But there is some weird
stuff that at least deserves some explanation. Here is this funny.
I have no idea where you you know, are are
you Scully or Molder? You know? Where do you fall
on the that's for those of course, that's a reference
to the X Files, which I didn't see that much
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of. I I saw some of. Are you a believer or
a skeptic when it comes to UFO's clay, I'm a believer.
I just I think every generation thinks that they know everything,
doesn't matter what the subject is. If you went back
and read in the seventeen hundreds, people are like, this
era is the most brilliant ever. And it's always true
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because you're advancing in terms of the knowledge of society
as a whole. So I think that there's tons of
things we don't know about the larger universe, and I
believe that there are there is likely intelligent life somewhere
else in the cosmos, And so I believe in UFOs.
I think that not only is intelligent life exists, I
(30:47):
think that they've probably visited our planet at some point
in time. What about you the best, I'm a little
more skeptical, a little more skeptical. I don't know. I'm
not buying it. I feel like, first of all, it's
always why is it always so shady? Like, shouldn't at
some point, should't we just have found some flying saucers.
I think they're probably so way smarter than us. You
think they're way smarter than us. I mean, they're way
(31:08):
smarter than me. If they're coming to our planet, then
we can't figure out how to get to their planet
or their location wherever it might be. So yeah, I
believe in alien life somewhere in the cosmos, and I
think it's visited here. The greatest alien visits Earth movie
is I guess there's probably an obvious answer, but we
haven't really You know, this is a good question. You know,
(31:30):
there's a recent one that I can't even remember. I
think I have like Jodie Foster as a contact. I
think it's called Is that right? I think it's I
think that might be it. I thought that was pretty good. Yeah, um,
I would I would have thought you would have gone
ET given you guys. Oh well, I haven't watched ET
with the boys. I haven't seen ET and probably kids
now because it's a sad ending. See this is where
Uncle Buck comes through big or No, it's too saying
(31:52):
unhealthy delicious. You don't have to worry about the tears.
I don't want to watch super sad movie movies like
ET has got a pretty sad component, know what you know? Which,
speaking of UFOs of you know what? Really what really
busted me up back in the day. I don't know
if he saw this one. This is about Sasquatch obviously,
uh or the squatch to those who I believe who
(32:14):
were believers, Harry and one that one was rough. That
was like Old Yeller for me at the end, man,
I was I was bustled up by Harry and the
Henderson's like he was a nice Sasquatch, he was a
good sas Do you know what book broke me? Uh?
Back when I was a young kid, did you ever
read Where the Red Fern Grows. I kind of vaguely
(32:35):
remember it, but not really. Well, there were two dogs
hunting dogs, and it's even worse than Old Yeller. Uh.
And I know there's people out there right now who
are like, oh, thanks for bringing up Where the Red
Fern Goes. I just remember being utterly crushed spoiler alert
by what happens at the end of Where the Red
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Fern Grows. So I don't even know that I would
let my kids read that book. It's like Old Yeller,
except twice as bad. Yeah, so there's some very good
There was a period I think it like mid late nineties,
UFOs became a particular fixation, right, it became something. There
was that movie Fire in the Sky, which was about
(33:16):
alien Remember that was the premise abduction, right, Yeah, the
premise for a while was the alien abduction thing. Yes,
where they'd grabbed some guy and of course after he'd
run into the town he be having flashbacks. He's like,
I swear the aliens all grabby and everyone's like you're crazy,
and then yeah, right, you know that that was the
thing for a while. Um, but you know, the UFO hearing,
I've I've seen some stuff on this that does require
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There's been some you know, little lights flicking flickering around
the screen, and you know, there's been some stuff that
people in the military have seen and you can't explain,
and they can't explain. So I'm I'm all in favor
of like, let's keep it real, let's keep it rational, right,
But if they can't explain it, well, then we should
at least be open to the possibility that there are
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explanations we either have not considered thoroughly enough or that
we generally dismissed out of hand because we don't want
to deal with the possible reality. I look, this is
the first hearing since what like nineteen sixty eight. I
think Gerald forty year he was still a congressman, was
the last person to hold hearings in Congress on UFOs.
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And by the way, this was how crazy twenty twenty was.
They had a story like in the New York Times
where they're like, hey, we think UFOs are real, and
it was buried on like the eighteenth page because there
was so much chaos going on, people didn't even really
care that much about the fact that might be real.
I feel like people also play those games with this,
I'm sure. By the way, I remember once I made
some passing reference to wiccans and witches years ago radio
(34:45):
and members of the Wicked community reached out and they're like,
we know you were just kidding, but we're out here,
we're real and we actually have you know, thoughts, feelings, hopes,
design like they actually I'm not I'm just trying to
say I'm not trying to offend the UFO community here,
but I do think which right now now, this is
going to be bad, but I think we need to
separate out unidentified flying object from uh intelligent other being.
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You know what I'm saying, like me, there may be
some physiological explanation for why this little thing is flying
around that's not green spacemen and flying saucer is kind
of so just a UFO is a very broad term,
That's all I'm saying. They, by the way, I don't
I don't even know that we can trust the government
on anything. They're claiming that they don't have the technology
(35:29):
to replicate what these UFOs are doing, while there are
fighter pilots out there in the air flying around and
seeing these, so they are claiming that this is, uh,
this isn't impossible for them to otherwise replicate The arrival,
by the way, is I think what I might have
been talking about the recent movie. I'm wrong. It's not Contact.
(35:51):
Contact was one. It's not that recent. I think that's
like twenty years old. I think the arrivals about where
there's just a spaceship that shows up and they're trying
to give us a message and we have to figure
you're out what that message is. It's really well done.
U and Jodie Foster may not be in that one.
I can't remember who. I tried to watch The Martian
I fell asleep. I gotta tell you, I not met
Damon's best. He wasn't setting us his best on that one.
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But some of these other ones, I'm telling you the
X Files, it's a good watch from the original X Files,
a good watch from Back in the Dames. No, it's fantastic.
And the movies were good too that they made. Uh
that was um the Fox Molder and and and the
girl Jillian andrews Man. She was hot. Well, day, I'll
tell the story of years ago when I was making
fun of some aspects of a Sasquatch movie and it
(36:37):
turned out that one of the actors who started the
movie was listened to my show and called in and
called in that was That's phenomenal. Yeah, that's movie. That
was a pretty good one. Actually, Kimmer was called but
primal Fear I think something like that. Believe those are
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